Sunday, May 01, 2005

The Occult and the Third Reich

THE VERY SERIOUS WAR MOST OF US DO NOT KNOW WE ARE IN

Reading of Eric Jon Phelps and his advocacy of Bulwer-Lytton underground earth as well as the Hans Horbiger type fire and ice theories so popular in Hitler's Nazi regime, brought back memories of my earliest 1981 research on the New Age Movement. One of the most important books I read was THE OCCULT AND THE THIRD REICH by Jean Michel Angebert. That was the combined name of two French scholars. Their book was both translated and introduced by University of Tennessee Department Chairman, Lewis A. M. Sumberg.[i] I first read that book in 1981 as I was studying the New Age Movement and its more startling and obvious aims -- the installation of a new 'messiah' -- one who was neither Jesus nor Jewish.

New Age books, such as Alice Bailey's, intimated the Jews might get their own future separate national messiah, but he would not be the world messiah 'as the Jews had forever forfeited that privilege.' Here is the relevant quote from page 706 of Alice Bailey's THE RAYS AND THE INITIATIONS:

"It may interest you to know that the Christ has not yet decided what type of physical vehicle He will employ should He take physical form and work definitely upon the physical plane. He waits to see what nation or group of nations do the most work, and the most convincing work, in preparation for His reappearance. He will not, however, take a Jewish body as He did before, for the Jews have forfeited that privilege. The Messiah for Whom they wait will be one of Christ's senior disciples, but it will not be, as originally intended, the Christ. Symbolically, the Jews represent (from the point of view of the Hierarchy) that from which all Masters of the Wisdom and Lords of Compassion emerge: materialism, cruelty and a spiritual conservatism, so that today they live in Old Testament times and are [Page 706] under the domination of the separative, selfish, lower concrete mind. "

I noted in my book "HIDDEN DANGERS" that the New Age Movement featured both anti-Semitism and intense anti-Catholicism, in addition to being against true Christianity in just about any form. Reading the Phelps passages that I quoted in my Saturday post reminded me of important chapters I had read in the Jean-Michel Angebert book vis a vis Hitler's cosmogony. Moreover, there were important differences between Fascism and Nazism -- Nazism was much deeper and darker. Hitler envisioned a death struggle with Fascism once he had finished his other more preliminary battles.

That is part of what so intensely bothers me about the type of disinformation Phelps is shoveling out to the Protestant Christian community. The book has obvious absurdities: The Vatican controlling the English monarchy; Episcopalian Jesuits; the Jesuits killed Kennedy; the Jesuits killed John Kennedy, Jr., while simultaneously claiming that Teddy Kennedy is a Jesuit plant in the United States Senate. The Catholics have their faults to be sure, as do we all, but to make such unfounded and ludicrous accusations is sure to bring unfair labeling upon all believers!

With this type of literature so far going unchallenged in Evangelical circles makes me recoil to think I was accused of putting out ‘conspiracy theories’ for presenting the actual statements and plans of New Agers. The Phelps' book really is a conspiracy theory, in the most ugly and obscene sense of the word, and so many good people are buying into it, seeing only what they wanted to see, their filters bypassing the obvious occult sources and direction. When going to the SpectrumPress site to order it, why aren't people seeing the obvious long and intense list of New Age books -- why do they believe that Spectrum Press would be the only one to listen? Well, I will tell you right now that New Agers don't put out that type of stuff to win the world to Jesus! They do it to hasten the incineration of the world for Lucifer!

The Angebert thesis was that the two eternal enemies of occultism or “the gnosis” was (1) the Catholic Church “eternal enemy of the Gnosis, which it pursues relentlessly in all its forms, and (2) the Jewish Faith.

Knowing that and the oft-stated New Age position, stated perhaps most eloquently in Peter Lemesurier, that the game plan of the New Agers was to pit the target groups off against each other, I view just about anything too hateful about anybody with deep suspicion. Because of this, I decided The occult and the Third Reich required re-reading in view of the observations I have made over the nearly last quarter of a century. I will be updating the Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow, and I just may make that available on this blogspot and Herb Peter’s website as well as seeking its republication in updated form.

I will be writing much more of this in forthcoming blogs; however, for now, I feel we must all be reminded how terribly, terribly serious all of this is. I quote from the dust jacket of the Jean-Michel Angebert work:

“He who has seen in National Socialism only a political movement, has seen nothing.” -- Adolf Hitler

“Some thirty years after this statement was made, the authors of The Occult and the Third Reich pronounced: “The time has come, once and for all, to call to account those who refuse to see in Nazism anything but a political system . . . Nazism is only the most recent outcropping of a militant neo-Paganism locked in a death struggle with its arch enemy, traditional Christianity, a struggle which will go on to the end of time.”

Whether we are now in end times, or merely another phase of the ancient battle with “our ancient foe who seeks to do us woe,” we must not be ignorant of the devices designed to take us to the dark side of that battle. I will be writing much more about this in the days to come.

Enjoy the balance of your weekend.

Constance E. Cumbey
May 1, 2005
[i] Angebert, Jean-Michel. The occult and the Third Reich. Translation of Hitler et la tradition cathare. New York: Macmillan Publishing Co., Inc., 1974.
Comments:
Never read the book, but I do know where the author(s) must of got their initial material for it: The Morning of the Magicians, by Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier. First published in France under the title Le Matin des Magiciens in 1960. The book went on the become a cult classic throughout the rest of the sixties and seventies. It was the first place readers found out the details about the occult connections of the Nazis to Lytton, Blavatsky, the Thule Society, the Vril Society, even Crowley and Gurdjieff; they named all of Hitler's gurus (and their beliefs) and go into the details on how they trained him into becoming the leader of the most satanic empire the world has ever known. In their view (both the authors and Hitler's own guru/handlers), he was a "perfect medium" for the satanic energies they intended to invoke. He was used to incite the masses because he was so susceptible to influence himself.

His speeches where he looks possessed ... well he was possessed! Afterwards he would collapse and not even remember what he had said. Exactly like a medium; his handlers knew this about him from the very beginning.
 
Hi. Your blog is my 'blog of the day' today over on http://sometimesitspeaceful.blogspot.com/
 
Terry,

I also have Morning of the Magicians and read it -- it is inferior to this book which praises that book in part and debunks it in part -- this book is far and away superior to every other book out there -- MacMillan Press could probably sell millions of copies if they reprinted it -- curiously the book is scarce as hen's teeth -- wonder why! Now that might be a conspiracy worth looking into in and of itself
 
Hello Gill,
Like I think you were saying (on YOUR blog), dont confuse the people with the movement. New Agers need to be careful, because the entities behind the channelling are indeed the fallen angels of old.

And they do have concrete plans for the movement while deceiving their followers along the way. If people follow them to the end, their end will be very grave.

If a new ager loves God by Faith, then he/she should go one step further and ask Jesus to reveal Himself and the Truth to them. Be sincere, and God will answer and reveal the deceptions of the new age that are at the TOP of the Hierarchy.
 
No man can serve two masters....
 
Amen!
 
Dear Constance, I appreciate your exposure of deception like this by Phelps. As always, your clear mindedness and insightfulness help steer a straight path amid all the confusion. There are comments made in the present article which arouse my interest because of questions I personally have - they may be aside from your own particular concerns, therefore I do not wish to divert attention away from your interests. One thing is the Angebert thesis claiming that enemies of occultism are the Catholic Church and the Jewish faith. That assertion runs counter to things I have heard regarding Catholic doctrine, and most especially regarding practices within the Cabala (Kabbalah). Is cabalism a legitimate part of Judaism? Another question I have is, are Zionists to be considered a segment of the Jewish faith? There are quite a few Jews who are not Zionists, especially among Jewish Christians, and Zionism is an especially powerful political influence worldwide. It certainly is not friendly toward Christianity.
 
Hi Constance,

I heard your interview with ZEPH, and it blessed me, especially the stuff about Hatonn.

My earlier anonymous comment about new agers getting right with Jesus Christ was not about serving two masters. It was about knowing that there are sincere God seekers being deceived in that movement and caring about their salvation in Christ.

Time is so short now, lets endure to the end and continue to share the gospel with the lost.

amen
 
I so enjoyed the audio you did with Zeph.. It was one of the best shows I have ever heard regarding the new age movement.. You have surely done your homework and many of us who are HIS, concider ourselves blessed that you are fighting this good fight of faith exposing the lies and disceptions of the new age which is not new at all.. May the eyes of those who have yet to come in out of the false light and love (that underneath is spewed with darkness and hatred to His own who will not be inititated to the false way of luciferianism,) be opened and their ears hearing what the Holy Spirit is speaking forth in these final days.. Father, may you open their blind eyes and deaf ears to the ONLY WAY, TRUTH and LIFE which is YAHSHUA JESUS.. Keep up the good work, Constance.. Your a dear sister and I am honored to have just come on board to know His workings through you more and more..
 
Thanks to the commentators here, and to Gill who asked thoughtful questions to which I shall attempt to give her the thoughtful answers she deserves and for the kind honor of making this column her "Blog of the Day" for Sunday - imagine that we have readers all the way to England! Gill, we shall talk and I will explain what I saw in New Age material that you may not have had the opportunity to inspect as closely as I have for the past 25 years. Thank you for sharing your blogspot with me,

http://sometimesitspeaceful.blogspot.com/
 
Constance, do you really think that Eric was up to no good in "shoveling" his book Vatican Assassins to the massess? Other than his obvious New Age sources, what other things caused red flags to raise in your mind about Eric Phelps being a New Ager himself. ...becuse if what you say about him is true, then my next question is what was the exact purpose of putting out his exhaustive conspiracy theory.

For the record, I read a small portion of Vatican Assassins that was published on the web and it is really hard to believe in all honestly.
 
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Silent & Listen are spelled with the same letters.

www.nephos.com/house2house.htm
 
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My response to question by "THE TRUTH":

Here is the question:
"Constance, do you really think that Eric was up to no good in "shoveling" his book Vatican Assassins to the masses? Other than his obvious New Age sources, what other things caused red flags to raise in your mind about Eric Phelps being a New Ager ...becuse if what you say about him is true, then my next question is what was the exact purpose of putting out his exhaustive conspiracy theory?"

MY ANSWER:

Like I've said before, one must remember a favorite New Age slogan: "WE ARE ALL ONE." Next, the New Agers have not been bashful about publicly displaying their strategy. One place where it is most concisely stated is page 237 of THE ARMAGEDDON SCRIPT by New Ager Peter LeMesurier, who writes:

"The massed forces of the Old Age, however, will be unable to check their headlong onrush. In large measure they will go on to destroy each other in a massive, mutual venting of long pent-uup agreesion . . ."

LeMesurier wrote these words the same year I discovered the existence of the New Age Movement, 1981. His other publisher of his companion book, THE COSMIC EYE was The Thule Press, Findhorn. If the New Age Movement has a Vatican City, it most likely is the Findhorn Community in northern Scotland. Many of you may remember that Hitler's original secret occult society was the Thule Society!

What is the motive? Well it may well be a two-fer and maybe a three-fer or more (two for the price of one, three for the price of one). First, it gets us in fighting spirit ready to battle another New Age target groups (Jews and/or Catholics), secondly, like Jonestown was, it can be pointed to as an example of "those dangerous Christian fundamentalists" when it was really New Age activists stirring the pot; and in countries with hate speech laws, it can get those of us publicizing it and circulating it shut down via the criminal process for disseminating "hate literature." That's the two-fer and three-fer -- now I have thought of a four-fer, it might be rather than Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, the Luciferian, in our eyes, "Christian writer Helena Petrovna Blavatsky" when we start to equate everything anti-Catholic with "God's Gospel Truth" when in fact it was an important part of the agenda of self-conscious Luciferians, such as Blavatsky clearly was. Being de-sensitized, we might go on to soak up more of her 'wisdom' and bingo, the devil has us as effectively as if we went to a coven meeting and/or seance! And last, but not least, as I have said before, some of the more sadistic New Agers like to play a little game I call "watch the fundamentalists run." I have observed them sitting in New Age store corners howling with glee as they tell stories about how Christians reacted when they went into churches and gave phony testimonies, there's much more, but that will give you the gist. Besides, do you really think that somebody who calls for draining the blood from the throat of every priest is in any sense of the word 'a Christian'? Our Lord warned us, "they will put out of the synagogues . . . they day will come in which men will kill you and think they do God service . . ."

Folks, let's fight the delusion in all of its forms -- let's not buy into it because its fighting the folks we think we love to hate!
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul
To: Eric
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: Fw: Another who wants to HELP

Eric...../4/6/05
I NEED YOU to respond to this E-mail as soon as you have the time:
Constance Cumbey responded to an e-mail I sent her last week on a few things Barry wrote and asked me if I had her CD? I said no, gave her my address and she sent it to my P.O.Box in Boise. Her CD is on the WEU and Solana, and HAS NOT made the Jesuit connections that Barry and you have.....YET!
She has, as you know, written the book, "Hidden dangers of the Rainbow."
She is a lawyer, and I think it would be prudent AT THIS TIME to send her a FREE copy of the "first printing book" soft bound, if you have any available. If not send her the CDs'.
She would be a great person to get this info too, and it would be great to have her in this understanding at this particular TIME.
I've got a last copy of a soft bound, & I'll send that if you are sold out.
I truly believe, it would shore up all her loose ends where her research is concerned.
Seed into her ministry Eric, she should be able to put the remaining
pieces together, and just might be able to, as a Lawyer, take some action in areas not YET taken in.

Her address is:
Constance Cumbey
Attorney @ Law
[Yada, Yada, Yada,]

Tell her that I recommended sending her the material.
Get back with me as soon as you send it off, and I will tell her it is coming, if you need to charge her for it, get back with me and I will take care of the payment.
Thanks.
Paul .
...................................

Dear Paul,

They are trying so very hard to marginalize me now and the information needs to be mainstreamed. I don't know IF SOLANA IS THE ONE OR NOT -- if you
watched my disk, I said, "your guess as to the antichrist's identity is as good as mine -- but Javier Solana could well be an educated guess -- certainly a better guess than Juan Carlos." As long as this is qualified
in this manner, you are free (I guess this is still America) to say what you want. I wonder how long until they charge us with incitement? Be very careful. We are dealing with slick, dangerous people.

Constance
cumbey@
 
I deleted one comment, not for the sake of censorship, but because it obviously was an obvious cut and page from another web page. Comments and limited cut and pastes are welcome, but not entire articles, especially without links provided. If you have something you would like me or the other blogspot readers to read, please cut and paste the link, rather than the entire article. The article I deleted would take somebody probably an hour to read and not get to other comments. Let's please try to keep comments to a thousand words or less -- that's generous!
 
Constance:

Have you ever had a chance to read "Unholy alliance" by Peter Levenda?

It mentions this so-called "spear of destiny" or Longius' spear and how occultists revere it.

Also, it mentions a place in Argentina called "colonia dignidad" or "colony of dignity".

The book is relevant to this thread, and I think Levenda has a new book out this month. Would love to hear your review of it.

-TRU
 
Hi Constance, I see that you really are sincere with your stand here, I don't to comment much but I am rather amused by the way you illustrate things.

By the way if you want to reach more people and expand your audience, i encourage you to visit us at www.i.ph. We are a paid blogging service but we are offering you a site for free for an indefinite period of time.

If you are interested, just email me at jonan@domains.ph.

By the way, feel free to visit my site- anthony.i.ph.

Have a wonderful day!

-Anthony
 
Dear Anthony,

Just might take you up on that! Thanks. Let's talk privately by email.

Constance
cumbey@gmail.com
 
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My goodness, it would really help if some people could learn to be concise. Who wants to wade through page after page after page?

I don't buy into the "chosen race" (DNA) and the restoration of a plot of ground as GOD's dwelling place on earth and a new earthly temple and animal sacrifices, etc. All of that is OT and is explained in the NT as being a foreshadow of better promises and a heavenly kingdom. Hasn't every one of GOD's promises to natural Israel been fulfilled? All of GOD's promises are based upon actions, on faith and obedience, on the part of the receiver - read the book of Hebrews carefully. I also don't believe Jesus Christ is a Jew genetically. He came to earth in an earthly body through a Jewish virgin, but He is called the second Adam, and Adam didn't have a predecessor as far as DNA is concerned. Also, Jesus references Psalms 110 to the very point that Christ is not genetically the son of David otherwise David would not call Him "Lord".

No doubt the devil wants a worldwide faith in a false religion, and no doubt new age religion plays a big role in that. The ecumenism of the Catholic Church embracing all false religions plays into that plot of the devil, does it not? It seems to me that Revelation 13 is central to the last days scenario. There is a dragon (the devil) giving power to the beast (antichrist, who rises out of the earth) and there is the false prophet (pope? rising out of the sea) causing all to worship the beast and to receive a mark of allegiance to the beast.

I know there are a lot of good Catholic people who are deceived by that soulish system. I don't wish to sound condemning of all Catholic people. But to treat Catholicism as a legitimate branch of true Christianity is like treating those OT elders who worshipped the queen of heaven and those women who wept for Tammuz as being legitimate worshipers of the true God, Jehovah. When Solomon left off obedience to God and built temples to Ashtoreth and Baal (or whatever), he left the true God and God departed from him. When King Saul disobeyed the word of the Lord through Samuel, the Spirit of the Lord left him.

Finally, while I do not think that all Jews are wicked by any means, I do believe that there is certain segment of those who call themselves Jews (maybe genetically, and that's a big question in itself; but not in the NT sense of the word), who are of the devil. Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 must surely be speaking of a cabal of so-called Jews who have accepted Satan's terms of earthly dominion in exchange for service and obedience to him (just as Satan offered Jesus in the temptation when Jesus refused).

This is the picture I get of what Scripture actually says, and that is the bottom line for me.
 
More nonsense from the kings of nonsense. More antisemitism. Note there is no footnote for the Constantine material. True Christians know that they have another form of monotheism. New Age Christians hope to destroy Judaism and replace it with what they claim is the true form of Christianity. My guess is that this cult then then will want to move to replace Christianity with New Age paganism. When one runs a cult the individuals are not allowed to think for themselves.

Constance Cumbey's material has always been challenging to those who would destroy monotheism.

With the postings of these Christian New Age cultists here, everyone who reads this is being challenged to do what they can to help others get beyond the mind control techniques being used here. It is a challenge to the good people reading this blog.

We don't get to pick the challenges that come into our lives. They land on our doorstep and we either face them or know we will be asked why we didn't.
 
You might all find it extremely interesting that the New Agers were absolutely determined to get rid of Christmas as a holiday and change the meaning of Easter to a pagan rebirthing one. Why? It is very hard to ignore Jesus at Christmas and Easter. Eliminate those two holidays, and you have gone a long way towards eliminating Christendom. I get very nervous when I see Christians considering themselves fundamentalist and New Agers sharing goals. The test of antichrist is not" Did he observe Christmas? Did he observe Easter? NO, it is a denial of "the Father and the Son" and a denial that Jesus is the Christ." It was clearly prophesied in Zechariah 12 and Romans chapter 2, that this would be a very end of time thing for most Jews and that we were not to boast against the branches.
 
I looked at the so-called "Project Vatican" website that several of you sent me and it clearly appears to me to be a satirical attempt to attribute Jon Phelps type theories to Catholics. If the Jesuits were as smart and cunning as Phelps says they are, I doubt very much if they would be dumb enough to hang that out on a website. I googled the person who said he owned the website and found some cases involving his business interests. Until I have more convincing evidence otherwise, I do not believe it to be an official Catholic site or projecting real Catholic marching orders.
 
Footnotes:

1 See: From the Letter of the Emperor to all those not present
at the Council. (Found in Eusebius, Vita Const., Lib. iii., 18-
20.)

2 For a complete Judeo-Christian Calendar, including dates in
Martyrdom & US History see: http://www.lulu.com/bolinger

3 See the Bill Sizemore article
© 2005 Harold Bolinger
 
Since this was deleted, Obeying the rules here seems a great suggestion. Here was what was deleted..... and that in itself, said it all!

http://www.nephos.com/Constant%20Rantings.htm
 
This makes more sense. From everything I've read, Constantine worked to distance Christians from paganism. Jews who did not convert to Christianity were a major problem for the early Christians who felt all Jews should move to what they considered the fulfillment of Christianity.

http://home.datawest.net/esn-recovery/mike_ep/exam/distort.htmObserve that not only did Constantine want a universal observance of Easter, but so did the majority of the bishops. Notice the many countries that they represented—Africa, Italy, Egypt, Spain, Gaul, Britain, Libya, etc. Carefully observe that the decision was to observe Easter on the same Sunday. Constantine did not force Easter observance on the Jews. What they decided was that they would no longer go by the Jews’ inaccurate calculations to determine the date of Easter (resurrection Sunday). They openly despised the Jews (not to be confused with the Jewish Christians) because the Jews openly despised Jesus—not recognizing Him as Messiah – and adding insult to injury by boasting that the Christians needed their direction in order to determine the time of this (“their”) festival. So the bishops concluded that they needed to distance themselves from the (unconverted) Jews by no longer looking to them to determine the date of Easter. They determined that the Lord would be their authority and guide—not the Jews.

HWA (Herbert Armstrong) makes the reader think that it was Rome that forced Easter observance on the whole empire, when, in actuality, there was a majority agreement amongst the bishops to set a uniform date on a festival that they had already been observing (resurrection Sunday) since the death of Christ. HWA vilifies Rome because he must cast Rome as the soon coming, resurrected Holy Roman Empire, used by Satan to suppress religious truth. He uses this as a tool to scare people into his church.
 
I deleted a post from this site from the Nephos.com site for the following reasons:

1. It had nothing to do with THE OCCULT AND THE THIRD REICH.
2. It was obviously a long cut and paste from the Nephos site.

I enjoy your comments, but let's try to stay on topic. Thanks!
 
I believe I did read the book several years ago, it was a small paperback version if I remember correctly. I would very much like to see the new Lavenda book. Thanks!
 
I know of a New Age, Bush hating website that is so far fetched, insanity comes to mind.



This site is filled with hatred against Catholics and Religion in general. The author of it is very derrainged and compares Bush to Hitler incessantly.

I've tried to talk some sense into them and only end up getting bashed and called names even with solid proof provided and links. They are only interested in their own agenda to kill religion.

Is Bush The Antichrist
 
re...the nephos link posted in these comments.

I went to this site - actually named Metatron Communications and was troubled by what I encountered as it appears to be a new age deception at work.

Googling Metatron - I discovered that this is a spirit guide channelled by new agers. More on Metatron and the meaning (in their own words)...

http://www.adamastarfirereiki.com/metatron.htm
 
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I erased the spot that purported to be a Vatican website for the reason that (1) it is entirely too long -- GIVE THE LINK INSTEAD IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO VIEW IT! and (2) I believe it is not authentic -- it is either a spoof or somebody's fictionalized version of what they believe is taking place in Vatican circles -- i.e., the part about accepting ONLY VISA in transactions -- I'll bet my bottom dollar that MasterCard and American Express, Euros and anything else with value is accepted both in collection plates and in sales to and from Catholic vendors! I will not be a conscious party to disseminating this type of propaganda that reminds me of the type of hate propaganda circulated about Jews prior to Kristallnacht violence!
 
I hope I didn't delete the wrong comment -- I just deleted "Project Vatican" for what appears to be the second time -- I'm not sure if it was up twice, or if I deleted the wrong message -- if it was the latter, I apologize to the poster and do invite you back!

Constance E. Cumbey
May 6, 2005
 
Above there are these following posts crediting my name, but I didn't post them and don't even know what they mean or what they are about. I haven't read Constantine (accept City of God many years ago), or any of the other things referenced here.
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Footnotes:

. . .

3 See the Bill Sizemore article
© 2005 Harold Bolinger
# posted by Re: Howard duck, then Anonymous : 12:43 PM
Since this was deleted, Obeying the rules here seems a great suggestion. Here was what was deleted..... and that in itself, said it all!

http://www.nephos.com/Constant%20Rantings.htm
# posted by Howard Duck, Anonymous, & Constance : 2:37 PM
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Un real....I'm being deleted because I refer my comments back to the authorship, thats plain out & out... Religious BIAS, censorship, and certainly ignorance in it's finest form.
 
ANONYMOUS SAID: re...the nephos link posted in these comments.

I went to this site - actually named Metatron Communications and was troubled by what I encountered as it appears to be a new age deception at work.

Googling Metatron - I discovered that this is a spirit guide channelled by new agers.

More on Metatron and the meaning (in their own words)...

http://www.adamastarfirereiki.com/metatron.htm.....

Obviously Anonymous Didn't go to the Torah/Word/Instruction FIRST for the "TRUTH ON THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE" heres what YHWH says:

http://www.nephos.com/Is_the_Jewish_Messiah_God.htm

http://www.nephos.com/Hand%20of%20YHWH.htm

http://www.nephos.com/Shekinah.htm
& ALL THAT IN THE MOUTH OF 2 or 3.
 
Heres is that PROJECT VATICAN LINK that accidently was deleted.

I'm so glad I had that in my Favorites file.

Constance it's important for you to let US decide whats REPORTED HERE, or thats "Agenda Journalism" on your part, thanx!

"and (2) I believe it is not authentic -- it is either a spoof or somebody's fictionalized version of what they believe is taking place in Vatican circles."

http://projectv.nventure.com/
 
As to the last poster, thanks for the link and you can get your very own blogspot, you know!

Constance
 
I probably should do a new post on this, but I don't want to prematurely block reading of today's blogspot, but since Eric Jon Phelps advanced his serious belief in a Hollow Earth theory, I thought it might be instructive to see what long time New Age activists such as Joshua Shapiro express about the subject: Here are a few choice quotes:


"The next group of helpers are the Inner Earth People. This requires one to investigate the theory (fact?) that the earth is Hollow. A very good book on this subject is, 'The Hollow Earth' by Bernard. According to the book, at both poles are openings, The radius of these openings is about 1200 miles across. There are other smaller openings in various spots of
the planet but these are the most accessible. Remember Jules Verne wrote a book about this possibility? If one is able to find and read the true transcripts of Admiral Byrd's messages from his expeditions to both the North and South poles, you would see he
discovered a different world, one with a sub-tropical climate. The government, as with information on the UFOs, has suppressed this knowledge (probably afraid that if people heard about the paradise in the Inner Earth, everyone would want to live there). The Hollow Earth theory discusses the structure of the Earth as follows:
Gravity does not emanate from the very core or center of the planet but from the center of the Earth's crust which is about 800 miles thick. Thus gravity would hold a person to the inner surface as well as the outer surface
of the planet. At the core is a central sun which explains the Aurora Borealis seen in the Northern Hemisphere (Scandinavia, North Russia), the luminous
bands or streamers of light - from this mini-sun.. This also explains why explorers have found as they approach the true poles, it becomes warmer rather than colder. The Inner Earth people have sunlight for twenty four
hours a day. There are certain type of paintings I have seen which depict a paradise with a central sun, you can see these rays of light streaming out, all
over the sky.
"I believe the Inner Earth People are a combination of descendants of Atlantis and Lemuria (who when their cultures were facing a similar threat of destruction, as today . . .

http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/janc4p4.html

Frankly, I think the New Agers (and perhaps Phelps as well) are trying not so subtly to suggest to us that hell is a nice place to go! I don't think I want to join in that portion of their obvious deception!
 
...It is interesting how all of these things are manifesting. There was an outbreak of people getting "gold" for awhile. One day at lunch, I was talking to one of the leaders and he said it wore him out trying to bring the AntiChrist to power! I sat there stunned. Where does it say in the Bible that we bring the AntiChrist to power? Well, he said, we must do this in order for Jesus to come back! I went home very troubled and God led me to read a work on alchemy and how it worked. (John Sanford books.) It said that gold was generated by "an altered state" psychically which extracted the gold. I have seen it happen, but I also noted "worshippers" would enter a very altered state UNLIKE true praise. They would whirl and whirl like a dervish, whoop and dance in a monotonous and unreal way. There was a definite discernible difference between the two forms of praise. I believe that that altered state psychically was creating the "gold." I have seen it wiht my own eyes break out on people. All of our Christian pastors either said it didn't happen or it was God.Even Hank Hannegraff! It was neither!It was the strongest occult activity. All at once, the gold pastors began to die and the practice fell off at once. Insiders told me that the staff came to KNOW taht it was not God, that there was lying, misuse of funds, sin, etc.too. One man who got gold ended up in excruiating pain. The gold had come on top of all his rotted teeth and the ensueing agony was awful. ALL OF HIS TEETH had to be pulled.I imagine his faith was pretty hurt too.The leader of the gold in Brazil had been to a lot of psychics for healing before her conversion. In Brazil, this is a common manifestation among psychics. Read a book by Ken Sumrall about a warlock who did this in his church.
 
Has anyone noticed that Blavatsky is the source for the "Secret" and for the UN goals as well as the stock market crash here in the 1930's? In addition to the Occult Third Reich, it is interesting to read a little known book by Thomas Cahill called "How The Irish Saved Civilization." Like Occult Third, that book changed dramatically the way I understood Christianity. We have nothing to fear. The Lord has already conquered hell and the grave! MARANATHA!
 
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