Monday, August 08, 2022

Human Digital Twins

by Richard Peterson 

Earlier this year I read a news article which reported on the European Union’s plans to construct a full digital replica of the Earth to be completed by 2030. The replica incorporates a technology called digital twins which essentially is a virtual copy of any object. One may think of these objects primarily as a noun:  a person, place, or thing.

As I read the article, I recalled World Economic Forum founder Klaus Schwab’s words that in the near future we should expect a fusion between our technological and biological worlds.

Digital twin technology is commonly used in manufacturing facilities. Take, for example, a cutting machine which has been fitted with sensors that continually feeds data to a target computer. The target computer creates a virtual copy of its source whereby, over time, the replica is able to predict what impact different variables (e.g., speed of operation, material types cut, maintenance schedule, etc.) would have on the machine. Digital twin technology helps to anticipate the behavior of the cutting machine and helps prevent issues related to malfunctions.

A great deal of literature exists which proposes extending digital twin technology to humans. The sensors discussed range from eyeglasses which interact with the Metaverse to cell phones, and, ultimately, sensors embedded within the human body. The World Economic Forum expects digital twin technology will extend to humans.  What if salvation of the earth includes making every human on earth an input?


A digital profile of you most likely exists today. Have you ever questioned why, after conducting online research for a product – a lawn mower for example – that over the next several days lawn mower ads fill your browser? Or perhaps wondered if Seri had eavesdropped on your conversation because ads related to something you had just discussed begin to appear in your online feeds? Coincidence? Maybe. Maybe not. Should we find this to be invasive we are able to turn off our computers and put down our phones.

Back in April I had expressed concerns about human digital twinning in a blog post which I did not publish. Later that July I reconsidered posting it as I read the World Economic Forum had partnered with China to digitally transform the world’s cities through use of digital twin technology.

Then last week this article – Biology meets AI – reminded me of the direction digital twin technology appears to be headed.  (The World Economic Forum’s session the article refers to may be found here along with news coverage here.) 

Since digital twin technology continues to appear in my news feeds, I decided to publish the piece I originally wrote on the EU’s Destination Earth:

Destination Earth & the Human Digital Twin

 I recently noticed a news article which sparked my attention:  EU to develop a digital twin of Earth to better predict climate impact.  The same was reported by the World Economic Forum a year ago.  The mention that human activity would be a data input raised in my mind some questions.


Since I work in the field of information technology, I am familiar with the digital twin as it pertains to manufacturing machinery. A digital twin may be thought of as a virtualization of a real world physical object. IBM describes the digital twin as such:

 

“A digital twin is a virtual model designed to accurately reflect a physical object. The object being studied — for example, a wind turbine — is outfitted with various sensors related to vital areas of functionality. These sensors produce data about different aspects of the physical object’s performance, such as energy output, temperature, weather conditions and more. This data is then relayed to a processing system and applied to the digital copy.”  


“Once informed with such data, the virtual model can be used to run simulations, study performance issues and generate possible improvements, all with the goal of generating valuable insights — which can then be applied back to the original physical object.”

 

Another area where the utilization of digital twin technology is useful is in health care where medical professionals have the ability to monitor patients’ implanted devices and take early action should the digital twin alert them of a potential issue.

 

What if this technology were to be extended to humans making our virtual selves inputs for other twins?  To a degree, this is already happening absent the biometric unique identifier - yet.

 

Futurist Jan Amkreutz in his book Digital Spirit writes extensively about the human digital twin and how its use will develop a collective consciousness and advance human evolution. 


Amkreutz’s “writes that the sensory interface between humans and their digital twins will be one which eliminates devices (p. 178) and also:

 

                The meaning of technology that connects human thought and digital knowledge, or the physical me and my DT [digital twin], on a higher level of understanding goes deeper than mere 'convenience', because ultimately this type of research will lead to a seamless connection of human thinking and digeality. The most 'user-friendly' computer interface is no interface at all. We are working to do just that…” (p. 329)

 

And again:

 

             Finally, biological evolution created a species that could manipulate its environment and had some rational faculties, and now the cutting edge of evolution actually changed from biological evolution into something carried out by one of its own creations, Homo sapiens, and is represented by technology. In the next epoch this species that ushered in its own evolutionary process - that is, its own cultural and technological evolution, as no other species has - will combine with its own creation and will merge with its technology. At some level that's already happening, even if most of us don't necessarily have them yet inside our bodies and brains, since we're very intimate with the technology - it's in our pockets. We've certainly expanded the power of the mind of the human civilization through the power of its technology. We are entering a new era. I call it "the Singularity." It's a merger between human intelligence and machine intelligence that is going to create something bigger than itself. It's the cutting edge of evolution on our planet.” (p. 377)

 

Amkreutz book, whether or not he intended it, issues a warning:

 

“Digitally controlled 'smart' weapons and digitally guided weapon carriers will know and recognize their trajectories and their targets. . .Digital algorithm, the products of simulation and programming, will make the need for human judgment on the battlefield the exception rather than the rule. That would leave the war in the hands of a few human conductors of an orchestra of digital twins. No logistics for the physical movement of troops, no supply lines to protect: just a clean 'surgical procedure that eliminates the enemy. What happens, however, when the enemy has the same digital capability? Where are the living soldiers to eliminate? Who is the enemy? Civilians that have the wrong mindset?” (p. 386)

 I expect what I view as a warning may be another person’s positive.

 How close are digital twins to becoming reality? The World Economic Forum envisions a fusion between the digital and biological worlds. The WEF is working with China to help with the urban transformation of cities, i.e., smart cities.   One of the more overt portrayals of the human digital twin originates from China’s Anyang Institute of Technology which closely resembles Jan Amkreutz writings of the Digital Spirit.

 The European Commission indicates that Destination Earth or DestinE  is the product of two initiatives, the Green Deal and the Digital Strategy: 

 

Destination Earth is at the crossroads between two major European endeavours: the Green Deal and the Digital Strategy. The initiative will contribute to achieving the objectives of the twin transition, green and digital.”

 A component of the Commission’s Digital Strategy is to establish a personal digital twin for every European citizen.  An attendee (by invitation only) of the Commission-organized workshop – MyDigitalTwin: Trusted Personal Digital Twins in a Transformed Society – summarized outcomes which include:

 

“Personal Digital Twins are seen as providing a new technological edge by creating a digital alter-ego to all citizens, the ‘other digital me’.”

 

“PDTs are also considered instrumental in the fostering of Smart Cities and Local Digital Twins (usually clusters of DT mirroring a specific, local, reality).”

 

“The EU Next Generation and the Green/Digital Transition Strategies: data and their leverage both by institutions and single citizens are a must to support the transition.”


One aspect of the human digital twin is a relationship between self-measurement and social credit score systems. 



In the EU there exists a carbon reduction app which rewards citizens for behavior modification. The EU is known for its “carrot and stick” approach. What happens as people decide to opt out of digitization? What happens as the digital twinning of humans goes global?



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J said...

P.S. 11:57 AM,

I have read that Putin's Oligarchs use dark money to fund American Christian end times conspiracy theory for the purpose of demoralizing American Christians.

Nobody knows who you are. You don't even sign your comments with a pseudonym.

Yet you expect to be treated like a pastor feeding the flock here.

For all I know, you could work for a troll farm in Macedonia or anywhere else, funded by Russian oligarch dark money. For that matter, trolls working for China, North Korea or Iran might find value in demoralizing American Christians.

Anonymous said...

Yes J, BUT Simon and Matthew's lives were changed by their conversion. Constance still enjoys having the veil over her face. There are NO signs of rebirth with Constance's world view! NONE!

Constance picks the low fruit, and shows contempt for the rest. A Pharisee 100%.

Anonymous said...

Yes J, But, I'm not a liar like you are. I know the truth. But, I am not a pastor. Your unstable mind and soul is still looking for priestly vestments, and spiritual credentials. You waffle more than Bill Clinton did, and he was considered a pro.

Anonymous said...

11:26 AM That's funny, J. Or you could donate to Brother James Key's GoFundMe in honor of anonymous. LOLOLOL

J said...

12:51 PM,

What you call waffling, I call checks and balances.

By your standards, the founding fathers of America waffled.

They were strongly influenced by the Calvinist teaching of the depravity of human nature. That's why they didn't trust one branch of government to be unchecked or unbalanced by another branch.

Likewise, they didn't trust one sub-population in the democracy to have the entire common good at heart. They hoped various sub-populations would serve on checks and balances to each other.

I have serious problems with both the fringe left and the fringe right.

Christian Nationalists on the right comprise about 20% of the American population. But another 20% or so consists of the indecisive Christian Nationalists who can be persuaded to remain policed by that 20% who are the strong Christian Nationalists.

That must be what you hope to accomplish with people like Constance and myself. What you don't realize is that we don't share the same authoritarian psychology. We have more of an anti-bullying psychology. You have no idea how to talk to people like us.

Anonymous said...

DONALD TRUMP EXPLAINED: A Guide To Narcissism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqrkyXMsAjw

Anonymous said...

J wrote @ 6:44 AM,

"RayB was certain that X was really you. He thought you were using X as a sock puppet to say your secret Leftist, radical opinions."


RayB is certainly unhinged - not exactly the most mentally stable here - I guess that's why he loves Traitor Trump so much.

RayB, you certainly could do with a number of years on the psychiatrist's couch. Whassup? Did a little black boy laugh at you for playing with dolls when you were small?

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't be surprised in the least to learn Rich the Lyricist is none other than RayB himself.

Anonymous said...

12:54 PM,

Is that you, RayB? Hiding among the fascist weeds again?

Anonymous said...

9:26 AM wrote in response to RayB's lies at 8:28 AM,

"The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law that empowers the President of the United States to deploy U.S. military and federalized National Guard troops within the United States in particular circumstances, such as to suppress civil disorder, insurrection, or rebellion."


There's a bit of a slap for you, RayB. Hopefully it'll wake you from your narcissistic hubris and delusions of grandeur.

Anonymous said...

Is Donald Trump a Narcissist? | Insidious Maladaptive Narcissism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY16OQY21DE


By Dr. Grande.

Anonymous said...

Trump's Election Fraud Allegations | Denial vs. Delusion


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XKu_44DY9A




By Dr. Grande.

J said...

1:42 PM,

I don't think that was RayB. I believe him when he says he's never posted under an Anonymous tag.

Anonymous said...

Anti-Vaccination Movement & Dunning-Kruger Effect | Vaccine Hesitancy



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPEHm2x8bdE




By Dr. Grande.

Anonymous said...

Trump: A Psychiatrist's View


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgdTAFACABY


The video is from six years ago, but still informative.

Anonymous said...

Explained: How Covid Helped Convert New Agers To Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZd3BMjlZGQ

Anonymous said...

Is Trump A Lightworker



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hju17fXIriQ


The New Ager in this video sounds word for word exactly like Trumpers of the RayB common garden variety.

She states her information was told to her by the, "Galactic Federation of Light", i.e., demons, as she promotes and heaps praise on Antichrist Trump - her New Age "messiah".

Anonymous said...

J @ 1:09 PM

Not true! No one here has ever been as rude to Christians here as Luciferian New Age Constance.

But twist, and spin away. You're on the X team now.

Anonymous said...

J,

Here is the bullying @ 1:39PM + 1:42 PM



J said...

2:28 PM,

I've never known RayB to say things like, "neutralizes the polarity" or "if it resonates with you." This woman does not believe in good and evil duality. RayB clearly believes in good and evil.

Did you watch the whole 30 minutes? I will not watch beyond 3 minutes. Please find a section where this woman sounds just like RayB and tell us the exact minute mark. Or otherwise admit you have falsely accused RayB in a very unChristian manner.

J said...

2:35 PM,

I agree it's bullying.

Anonymous said...

The Bubble Bursts - Global Depopulation Event

youtube.com/watch?v=OAJ6oDEzE-A

Anonymous said...

"If you are on Team Jesus, you must then know that Jesus numbered among his disciples, both a tax collector and a Zealot."

Indeed. One left his politics behind to exclusively follow Jesus.
The other went further with his politics to unfollow Jesus, we all know what became of him.

It's still the same choice today.

X on the left and Constance on the right, are both differing, both agreeing with each other.....but both are more political than they should be in my opinion. True, it is only my opinion, but I understand X being that way because his politics and religion are joined at the hip. His is a humanistic message. But Constance however, not humanistic, but might still trust too much in the establishment right--who compromised so much they greatly helped the left to power-------power more abused, farther and wider than ever.

I think Constance is right to warn people (she has for a long time) but I think she too, has painted with too broad a brush here at times. Yes, there is a small number-small-number here who are diehards about all things Trump to a wrong favoritism toward him--but not true of a larger number of posters here. I completely understand some of her misgivings about former Pres Trump (I have some of the same ones and voiced them here myself), but I think she is falling for too much of lamestream, and it is lame and main stream, media's excessive slant against him. Sometimes we have to slow the whole thing down and be more careful to take with a grain of salt what we hear. It's a good measure to cut in half what we see and hear, then perhaps cut it in half again, until we know more--over time. Big Media is proven that it is against the Conservative message that still has some tenets of the Bible worldview-but not thoroughly-we are still on earth, not heaven. Horribly so, with many regular Americans in their crosshairs. Rushing to judgment as she has is not leading to a good place.


cont..

Anonymous said...

cont..
X, on the other hand, just nasty, his politics way outpacing his religion, which has a ton of social justice warrioring in it (Soros brand), at the expense of upholding what's really true, actually justice. So disagreeing with him on most things is one thing, I do, but his gaslighting, smearing, red herrings--strawmen, and unnecessary for the sake of real argument and discussion, are way out there--extreme with many manipulations, I think he is a disgrace for that. He's really above his paygrade to brag about his christianity and criticize everyone else's. He is just another version of kingdom now--another slant to it, and a growing attitude in the "church"..but expected quite frankly, these are end times, this country is under judgment. The love of many is waxing cold--and why these things are happening--to show us that real picture from God. The unraveling happening with Biden/Harris in office is further proof. The wheels are coming off because we are headed for the dustbin of history, God has allowed them to office to take America to the mat, and Trump is disallowed because it was not going to go back to God under him, either. That grace period is over sorry, to those of you hoping differently--it is time to trust the Lord as never before. Globalism is here..after a certain time Jesus will come take care of the devil's hellish kingdom come to earth. That said, if God wants to hit the pause button on all this He certainly will no matter what we think--but I don't think he will. We shall see.....
Under Trump's leadership (yes flawed, but what king/kingdom was ever without that it reads like the book of Kings and Chronicles in the Bible during our times too) but had some right elements to it that are all gone now--Roe v Wade happened because of Trump's leadership choices) was a small reprieve to give us a chance to go back to truly think about where our real allegiance should lie--and perhaps prosper again with a humbled heart--toward the God Who had been, Who was, giving that grace--or thanklessly turning eyes to a here and now, looking unto men, left, right, middle too, with no interest in following the Lord from Whom all blessings flow...just a mock version of being a Christian nation.
Politics, right, left, middle---it's now way too late for that. But God's still got a harvest to bring in....like He used those disciples long ago for. It's our turn.

Anonymous said...

About two pages ago, RayB at 2:00 PM posted here on the thread :

“Please, please, please don't accuse me of being a 'racist' for posting this ...”

Who would do such a thing, RayB? That’d be like accusing Adolf Hitler of being an Anti-Semite.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous2:35 PM wrote:
“J,”

“Here is the bullying @ 1:39PM + 1:42 PM”

Well, you’d better get that forest out of your own eye first, given how RayB and his ilk have relentlessly bullied X since he arrived and are now again trying to bully Constance on her own blog: Shame on you!

We didn’t just bully the murderous Nazi bullies back at the end of WW2, we hanged them!

Anonymous said...

Synthetic mouse embryo develops beating heart
By Philippa Roxby
Health reporter

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-62679322

Could this genetic technology be merged with a digital self, creating a living, breathing Avatar?

Revelation 13:15
King James Version
15
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

J said...

3:09 PM,

I tried to research Simon the Zealot more, but I saw that information about him is scarce and controversial. He might not even have really been a Zealot.

I do know this. When the disciples asked Jesus when the kingdom would be restored to Jerusalem, He didn't answer them. Instead they understood the true nature of His kingdom after Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit came upon them. They needed to see with spiritual eyes.

He seemed to have forbearance for them when they were too aggressive. It was Peter, I think, who sliced the ear off the Roman guard just before the crucifixion. Jesus rebuked him but not incredibly angrily. Then He simply healed the ear!

Another time one of the disciples wanted to call fire down from heaven on a village they were visiting to bring the gospel to! They had a history of enmity with Jerusalem! LOL

That was before Pentecost, not after.

Thank God for His mercy and forbearance for all of us sinners, then and now.

The more people are sanctified by the Holy Spirit, the more they should be showing evidence of being more like the disciples were AFTER Pentecost. No, we can never be as spirit filled as they were during that unique era, but we should be showing some kind of heart change relative to how ordinary human nature displays itself. Perfection, no, of course not, but at least admitting error once in a while. At a bare minimum.

Anonymous said...



Castrate society,
X's world's insanity!


Anonymous said...



Crisis feeds Joe's lunacy, all hail his new machine,
Death of Trumps democracy, a socialist regime;

Laid to rest without contest,
All hail the iron fist;

Anarchy is what we see,
The Red Caps now are pissed;


{Chorus}

Treachery, misery, violence, insanity,
Commies now, are closing in, hating truth, truth again,
Lies and trials, conspiracy, kindness is, the enemy
Paralyze, criticize, busting through Joe's wall of lies!

Anonymous said...

“It was written in scripture of the Godly King Josiah that he walked neither to the left nor to the right but strictly in the way of the Lord. Let us go and do likewise.”

Exactly, Constance.

The sad thing is that the Ultra-Trumper types who spit their venom on your blog view anyone who is either centre-right, such as yourself, or centre-left, such as myself, view us all as being equivalent to Communists because we don’t bow down to their idol, Fascism, personified in their “messiah-idol”, Trump. Nor, as people truly putting our trust in God through His Son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ’, do we repeat their mantra, ‘In Trump We Trust’.

Those Far-Right Trumpers, who wish to introduce a 1984 scenario, where books are banned, and freedom of thought and speech are stamped on (unless it pertains to their own draconian ideas), are ironically the ones most conditioned by the Neo-Left’s Brave New World.

The result is their inability and intransigence to think critically, or properly analyse texts pertaining to history, etc.

As Shakespeare once wrote, “The pen is mightier than the sword”.

Instead, pseudo intellectuals throw out slogans or empty allegations of, ‘straw men, ad hominem and genetic fallacies’, without supporting their claims and often being wrong in claiming such.

There is no honest dialog to be had with either the Far Right or the neo-left, but at least the latter is less likely to murder another, either physically or via character assassination, than the Far-Right is.

Even so, when Fascists or Communists threaten life and limb, and try to silence the voice of Democracy as the Holy Bible expresses it, then those of the centre-right and centre-left must unite to fight against such.

God bless you greatly, Constance.

You have been very courageous indeed, as you rightly said Liz Cheney has.

I pray and hope you are healing from your illness and God is comforting you from the loss of your husband.

A friend.

Anonymous said...

It has been the Brave New World narcissism, exemplified in the selfie driven culture rampant in social media and now in society, which has led to the ironic manifestation of such in the projected worship of the Uber-Narcissist in Chief, Donald J. Trump. Nothing is more narcissistic and devoid of altruism or compassion for others than Fascism: it appeals to the most depraved and selfish aspects of human nature, and those who are most prone to follow it are those who revel in the hatred of mankind, of liberty and life itself.

J said...

I don't think Constance reveled in hatred of mankind, liberty and life itself, those two times she voted for Donald J. Trump.

Anonymous said...

"I do know this. When the disciples asked Jesus when the kingdom would be restored to Jerusalem, He didn't answer them. Instead they understood the true nature of His kingdom after Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit came upon them. They needed to see with spiritual eyes."

Exactly.

It is persecution that can bring true humility and clear focus to the body of Christ, prosperity and fence sitting actually has the opposite effect, and no urgency to it. Persecution always separates the wheat from the chaff.
We are now getting ready to wade much deeper into this, like a whole lot of the world has already been experiencing. Our government is going to make sure of it (and the Lord is allowing it as He has done many times before with His own). So be it...to God be the glory.
My stands against our government and it's "pharoahs" frankly from all sides of politics, some worse than others, must be in the right heart, with the Lord's reputation of turning th other cheek, as I stand and give an account for what I know is right, even before evil people and the cost that incurs.
Following Jesus should have a cost if genuine, this world is not our home. So I have much yet to learn..

Being willing to "come out from among them" and stand with Jesus in a corrupt age is good..yet in His love too..now that especially means we must be filled with the Holy Spirit (yes that was after Pentecost not before, conversion comes before His consecration) and where I sometimes fall down, trying to spare myself the heartache or because of my flesh is not responding in His love, whether at home, here, anywhere, and I admit this. The Lord speaks to my heart through His Word about it. We all crawl before we walk, so it is a daily walk that strengthens us for that.
Castigations from people don't bring that to us as conviction (X's "lessons" oh Lord spare us his crusade to fix us his way) but it's just condemnation instead. Not of the Lord's Spirit, unhelpful, unnecessary, unkind--nobody being any better or any worse than themselves, I have to keep the main thing, the main thing--God is Judge, not people, even "good" ones--even the good is the enemy of the Best--Jesus is Best, He has no rival, His glory is His alone. Browbeating and virtue signaling ad nauseum have the opposite effect...an utter distraction from the devil who wants people at each other in any way possible.
Thanks for the great reply.

Anonymous said...

4:53 PM (J) Not she certainly has not.

Anonymous said...

AT 4:22 PM

Straw men and red herrings aiming at more dividing, again.


An engineered kiss up, too.

J said...



Trump accepted a $1,000,000 donation from Pfizer for his inauguration. How about that?


J said...

7:01 PM was impersonating me. I don't even know if that comment is true, but I would not make a comment like that completely out of context.

Anonymous said...

Sycophants gotta sycophant

Lets all idolize mentally ill Luciferian Cumbey!

J said...

5:07 PM,

I have enjoyed our conversations.

I think you and I both agree that the Bible is supposed to be used, first and foremost, to question oneself. Its primary purpose is not to use it to attack one's political opponents. With you, Christian theology doesn't disappear behind Republican talking points.

I agree that X - at least here and at least frequently - uses Christianity to attack Christians but gives no indication of being interested in first and foremost applying it to himself.

Anonymous said...

If X did try to apply it, it wouldn't stick.

Anonymous said...

7:51 PM

That's a good example of out of bounds very broad stroke bias.
You go way too far.

Serves no good purpose either,
especially for you..

If that unhappy do yourself a favor and go some place that won't bother you so much.

Anonymous said...



Has X ever felt the need?
To see more than he can see...

See life's uncertainty?
Memories of his treachery!

Would he leave his world behind?
Endless boys so hard to find...

Joe can interest him in lies.....
Sell his soul for all advice!

Anonymous said...



Joe can satisfy his greed,
For now all his debts are free...

Joe's got all eternity,
To roast all the girls he breeds!

Always change the rules of play,
From now on things are done his way;

No one's ever won his game,
Barry bakes the boys in flames!!!!


lyrics by Richard, paul

Anonymous said...



X you play with Joe's insanity,
So he shatters your reality....

Children's nights are full of screams.......
Have a scoop of blood ice-cream!

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OGodujfD04&t=132s

Zuckerberg reveals what FBI told Facebook ahead of Hunter Biden laptop story

Anonymous said...

J, no, I don’t think she did either and nothing I wrote expressed or implied such, however, the likes of RayB did and still do, for it is clear since the insurrection Trump caused, by RayB and Craig types, who Trump really is. I must say, I do think, however, Constance was naive to vote for Trump the second time round.

Good attempt twisting what I had written, btw.

Anonymous said...

P.S.,

J.,

Just a simple admission by you of, “I don’t think.” would have been something all we could have all agreed on.

J said...

5:56 AM,

You are a disagreeable one, aren't you? You are priming people to react negatively to commenters like you, perhaps 50% as negatively as 7:51 PM (who is even more disagreeable than you are).

This is the type of thing that makes real conversations hard.

Anonymous said...

10:08 PM

No, you are completely incorrect.

I have been on this blog since it began, and it was obvious to me all along, that Constance was not what readers here thought she was. Now with age, her psychosis has become glaringly obvious to anyone with eyes to see!

Unfortunately people are susceptible to worship idols, and that they will do.

You have to ask yourself, if Constance is anti-globalism, why does she praise the bottom of the barrel? The "cesspool?"

Is she naive, or just really dumb? Or, mentally ill?

Anonymous said...

Constance Cumbey was a lifelong Democrat, until she switched to the RINO party a little while back.

Can a leopard change its spots? How about NO.

Anonymous said...

RayB

1:39 PM

You said the Amish commit virtually zero CRIMES. Again, I will repeat myself: "I guess your Amish friends didn't tell you about their young people "sowing their wild oats" as a rite of passage before joining the church. I guess they didn't tell you about the DUI's while driving horse and buggies, or the burglaries, or the sex abuse crimes, or the incest. The Amish do live within a tight community and much of their crimes stay within the community and go unreported... "

And you respond with a condescending tone and downplay that? That goes to show what a strong delusion you're under in the MAGA Trump personality cult. After all you've been downplaying and overlooking your demigod's CRIMES for years. I get it - in your view, 'they're just a bunch of white boys having some fun, a little sin here and there like everybody does, but after all they're very conservative, no liberal nut jobs there...'

The Amish, as a group, for the most part are conservative, but not all of them. The majority, roughly 90 percent, do not vote. They leave politics up to their very well paid lobbyists and Political Action Committees. I doubt that any of them would agree that your "English" demigod is a savior fighting the sins of the world.

Your statement that Amish don't commit crime is as absurd as your imagination that all Amish fit the same description, or your assumption that I'm a liberal and deserving of your ridicule. You've been doing that since my very first comments here.

Linda

Anonymous said...

Liz Cheney thinks she's 'moral judge' of Republicans

youtube.com/watch?v=UHofKhCLw70

Anonymous said...

Yes... because there is nothing worse than getting 'hit' by an out of control horse and buggy teenage driver who has been drinking. LOL

(Me rolling my eyes in sarcasm.)

Sorry, 'Linda'... but I prefer the mostly GENTLE Amish people any day of the week over other groups.

Anonymous said...

X @ 9:21 AM said

"I doubt that any of them would agree that your "English" demigod is a savior fighting the sins of the world"

X, when you stretch reality that far, it breaks, and you show your extreme bias.

X it isn't a sin to "not vote"

Anonymous said...

The prisons are overflowing with the Amish!

Gangsters!

Anonymous said...

"The prisons are overflowing with the Amish!"

SAID NO ONE EVER!!! (LOL)

J said...

9:45 AM,

Hillary left me cold. I admire Liz Cheney.

But if she ran for president as an Independent, she would more likely cause the Republican candidate to win, not the Democratic candidate.

I don't want her to run, anyway. Her political ambition only serves to make it easier to tarnish her reputation on the January 6 committee.

She seems to be over playing her hand. It's going around a lot these days.

Anonymous said...


"She seems to be over playing her hand"


Absolutely.

And turned her back, dropped them, stopped standing up to fight and protect them regarding the many pressing issues, statewide and nationally, that were very concerning to the State she was supposed to represent.

She was once admired in Wyoming, no more, she has left them cold.

Politicking over people cost her greatly..
and she won't ever be forgiven for that.


Even with roughly 19,000 Democrats crossing over to help her, she was ushered right out of a political future there...with very good reason, she took Wyoming for granted.

Anonymous said...

9:47 AM

LOLOLOL

RayB said...


Imagined Liberal "Headlines" Indicating a Genuine Amish Crime Wave ...

Group of 100+ Amish Storm Local Feed Store, Chaos and Looting Ensues

'English' Beware: New 'Thrill' for Amish Thugs; the Knockout Game

Huge Increase of Buggie Jackings Reported, Police Perplexed

Rampant Amish Theft Leads to the Closing of Another Walmart

Grocers Pull Out of Amish Areas Creating Food Deserts, Claim Rampant Theft is to Blame

Illegitimate Births Among Amish Continues to rise, Now at 70%

Another Popular Amish Rapper Dies of Overdose

Amish Lives Matter (ALM) Loot, Burn, Attack, Rape and Murder Innocent Victims

Some Amish Men Have as Many as SIX (or more) Baby Mamas

NOW, here's the REALLY, REALLY true big crime:

Heavily Armed FBI Agents Raid Amish Farmer for Selling Pasteurized Milk Products;
Farmer Faces $300,000 in Fines

Anonymous said...

9:21 AM at Linda.

Like any group of people there will be some who choose to be lawless,
but you might be working this angle too hard, splitting frog hairs..

RayB said...


Just a few thoughts ... (Part 1)

Years ago, I and my then future wife were involved with a ministry that reached out specifically to the Jewish community, which through a variety of venues, brought us into 'one on one' contact with a number of people. During these exchanges, I heard this stated many times: "During the Holocaust, where were you Christians?" A legitimate question. The fact is, there were COURAGEOUS Christians that DID speak out, and more often than not, they lost their lives as a result. That's how a totalitarian society works. If you are deemed an enemy of the State, for ANY reason that THEY determine, you are simply eliminated. Under those circumstances, how many of US would have spoken up against the Totalitarian Nazi State?

With that in mind, think about this: Abortion has often been referred to as "America's Holocaust." In terms of shear numbers of the killing of innocent victims, America's Holocaust dwarfs any other. On one side, people want to kill innocent life. On the other side, people want to protect the sanctity of INNOCENT LIFE. Whichever side you are on, the Government is not going to 'eliminate' you based upon your views.

Thankfully we still live in a free society in which we can still speak the truth (although, increasingly, with serious ramifications. Witness Obama's IRS going after Conservative groups for just one example). Nevertheless, if we speak out, we can do so without being permanently 'disappeared' by thugs of a totalitarian government.

RayB said...

(Part 2)

With the above in mind ...

Blogger Constance Cumbey said (in part) @ 10:59 PM:

"RayB:

Shame on you. Liz Cheney is a brilliant and courageous woman."

And ...

"She (i.e., Liz Cheney) can run for President and I wouldn't hesitate to vote for her. Adam Kinzinger, Peter Meijer of Michigan, Ms. Murkowski of Alaska have been brave souls too."

Just a few more comments relating to "America's Holocaust":

Liz Cheney, a self-proclaimed pro-life politician, was facing a very stiff challenge to her Wyoming Congressional seat. In her quest to keep her seat, she openly solicited Democrats to 'cross over' during the primary and declare themselves Republicans in order to vote for her.

Prior to the Primary (in which she lost ... heavily), legislation was introduced by the Death Cult Democrats that sought to codify a woman's right to kill her baby via Federal Law. (This was in direct response to the recent Supreme Court rulings).

Brave, Courageous Wonder Woman Liz Cheney had an opportunity to STAND FOR INNOCENT LIFE by casting her vote AGAINST this evil legislation. WHAT DID our "Brave" COURAGEOUS WONDER WOMAN do?? She stepped up to the plate and dropped her bat; she cast a "NOT VOTING." "INNOCENT LIFE BE DAMMED, my political career is more important," said our Wonder Woman of Courage.

Obviously, our Wonder Woman of Courage didn't want to 'offend' her Death Cult cross-over Democrats, and hoped that Wyoming's GOP, pro-life voters wouldn't notice! Unfortunately for Wonder Woman, they did. Think LANDSLIDE!

No Constance, it is not "shame" on me. IT IS SHAME ON YOU FOR SUPPORTING people that put their political careers before INNOCENT LIFE! And they are doing so, not in a Nazi Totalitarian State, but a free country. Cheney took an EVIL stand, and you commend her as a person of "courage."

You need to have a serious self-examination before it is too late:

"Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?"
- 2nd. Corinthians 13:5

PS: Your other "hero," Adam Kinzinger did Liz Cheney one better; he VOTED WITH THE DEATH CULT DEMOCRATS to codify the killing of innocent life into Federal Law.

RayB said...




A Question from the "Radical Right Wing cess pool" for Constance and Linda:

Candidate Joe Biden proclaimed that an "8 year old child" should have the right to decide to "transgender," and, that "we should support that decision."

Do you favor Biden's policy on this? Should an 8 year old be given the authority to make such a choice than entails the MUTILATION of their reproductive organs, the consequences of which they will suffer for the rest of their lives??

J said...

I seem to remember reading a lot of things in the Bible that are not all about abortion and LGBTQ+.

For just seven examples, I give you Proverbs 6:16-19. What happened on January 6 was a culmination of ALL SEVEN of the below. And some commenters here would likely call the King Josiah of the Bible a RINO!


Proverbs 6:16-19
King James Version

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

J said...

With regard to abortion, it is time to move from mere rhetoric to actually RESPONSIBLE GOVERNING.

Republicans have been the dog chasing the pro-life car for decades. Now that they have caught the car, they don't know what to do with it.

Time to care about the impacts of policies on real lives. Policies need to be thoughtfully crafted out of actual LOVE and CARE for both fetuses and adult women (and raped, impregnated ten year olds).

Chasing the car and barking at it is no longer enough!

J said...

This is what happens in real life. It's not all debates and values votes anymore! Could we Christians show some love for people like the pregnant teen? (Her water broke after fifteen weeks of pregnancy.) Or is Christian love too RINO? Is proper and humane modern medical care too liberal?

https://news.yahoo.com/south-carolina-lawmaker-chokes-describing-155011407.html

South Carolina lawmaker chokes up describing how teen almost lost uterus due to abortion law he voted for

RayB said...

J,

You're missing a vital point; the 'character' of a politician that supports infanticide can't be trusted to demonstrate Godly judgment on any issue involving morality.

Supporting and voting for such an immoral politician would be, IMO, equivalent to hiring a pedophile as a babysitter.

Maybe you don't believe that abortion is murder? One Political Party OFFICIALLY endorses the murder of innocent life. The other, with all of its obvious faults, does not.

Anonymous said...

Amen Ray B.

Sincerely,
_Many Millions of Americans

Anonymous said...

1:10 PM

Every single issue on the Democrat platform (for the last 15 years minimum) fits the verses that were posted. And RINO compromisers jump on their bandwagon.

1:19 PM

Have you not noticed the Republican governors who have signed to ban abortion in their states after Roe v Wade decision from the Supreme Court? My state is one of them. Have you also not noticed that liberal activist judges are stepping in to stop them?

"Or is Christian love too RINO? Is proper and humane modern medical care too liberal?"


Seriously??
You're kidding me, right? Democrats are trying to shutdown Pregnancy Centers all over the country. Democrat Liz Warren has been leading that charge. We (Conservative Republicans) have stepped up donations (to help with legal aid and other needs) to help those places keep the Biden government from closing there doors, sending desperate women/situations with nowhere to turn, here, and in neighboring states.



Don't tell me people are ostracizing them--quite the contrary--the battle is heating up to protect them--and they are Republicans taking on the task, not a Democrat in sight, in what we are witnessing.
You are buying the liberal media talking points to disparage people who really do care for innocent life and those mothers in need. I think you should do a ton more research before posting such an accusatory comment.

J said...

2:54 PM,

The teen-ager in the news article was a real person, not just a liberal talking point. She had a 10% chance of dying of sepsis and a 50% chance of losing her uterus after her water broke at fifteen weeks. The doctor was not allowed to remove the fetus, although it was known the fetus would be non-viable. She returned to the hospital two weeks later with a dead fetus inside her and no heartbeat. At that point it was legally removed from her.

Whatever Liz Warren and Democrats are doing to pregnancy centers has nothing to do with this teen-ager.

For the record, I don't put faith in the conservative media equal to faith in the Bible. Ever since the Fairness Doctrine ceased to be a thing, and it ceased to be a requirement to tell both sides of the story in the media, journalism has not been properly practiced.

I attempt to get both sides of the story to the extent that is possible. I read articles from both the liberal and the conservative media.

Had the teen-ager died of sepsis, it would have been negligent homicide, to me morally, even if not under the law in South Carolina.

For the record, I believe a fetus is not a full person but is still a potential person. I don't regard a miscarriage the same way I would regard sudden infant death. I don't regard abortion the same way I would regard murder. I do not think it should be obtained lightly or frivolously.

For example I have read that some porn stars are no longer agreeing to appear in porn movies that would depict straight intercourse because they can no longer count on abortion being an option if they accidentally get pregnant from a movie scene. This would be an example of an elective abortion.

I wonder if you and RayB see no difference between these porn stars and that pregnant teen-ager? Do you care about real people, as people, not just talking points? What if their real life is inconvenient? What then? That makes it a liberal talking point, so I as a Christian woman shouldn't even be knowing about it or talking about it?

J said...

While I was away I did some reading about the history of the conservative type of Christian Nationalism in America. I learned that Protestants did not always have a history of regarding abortion as murder in America.

What started the Moral Majority movement was actually not originally abortion. It was actually originally about racially segregated Christian private schools.

Abortion was picked by design as a way to divide the saved from the damned and a way to get out the vote. It was done in a very calculated fashion.

I learned how different Christianity used to be in American history. And I read about some of the black Christians who were active in the civil rights movement.

I'm not the same as I was several months ago. I have been reading all about Christian Nationalism and its history. Being threatened and intimidated by those I wanted to believe were part of my "tribe" snapped me out of my former mentality.

I have learned there are millions of alienated Evangelicals just like me. I guess some day I will find them in a church. No, not a liberal mainline Protestant New Age church.

We need apolitical churches. I aim to find one. I care about that more than I care about a third political party.

I don't intend to camp out here and monitor the comment threads too much more.

The main reason why I came back was to warn Constance about RayB.

Anonymous said...

"For example I have read that some porn stars are no longer agreeing to appear in porn movies that would depict straight intercourse because they can no longer count on abortion being an option if they accidentally get pregnant from a movie scene. This would be an example of an elective abortion."

Well, truthfully and down to brass tacks, I'd say sin doesn't pay--consequences are real. And when you participate in a lifestyle with such risk the risk should be on you, not the public.

The teen situation perhaps should have been, could have been handled differently, maybe? I have not checked that out. It sounds like a medical issue not an abortion issue, and that needs worked out, rarer occasions and instances should be dealt with individually-government is lousy at that--and not at the expense of innocent lives as a whole.
And you should be able to see the correlation in mentioning Pregnancy Centers. They do good work..and Democrats want them done away with, because abortion is big business--big $$ and government always has it's hand out. Where's the compassion there as opposed to people at ground level zero, local places and people helping young/mixed up lives with such life impacting circumstances?



But truth is in these particulars you bring up--in all these instances, it is the church, not the government, that should step up to the plate. Government is not in the compassion business--never was, never will be, regardless of party. That is what the Church is supposed to be doing, so it is really this issue: Where is the church actively helping the culture of today? because it is few and far between to see it..

Anonymous said...

P.S.
The Pregnancy Center I mentioned is locally helped and blessed by mostly church people, across denominational lines (that's cool) and those people are active Republican Women of a local chapter making it a top priority.

Anonymous said...

"For the record, I believe a fetus is not a full person but is still a potential person."

In ancient Israel, in my studying the Hebrews understanding of what God taught them was if a pregnant woman was harmed, to the loss of her child, there was to be recompense for the loss. It was considered that killing that child was to lose a whole generations to any family. It was also taught that sex misused as in Er, Onan, and Tamar situation of 1 Chr 2:3--seed spilled on the ground, was a waste of generations and an evil. God takes immorality and it's consequences very seriously according to ancient teaching, and there is likely some room for interpretation for us, it is archaic perhaps to us, but I think it all speaks to the very high value God placed on human life, (we all are His image bearers) before and after getting here.

From personal experience, our daughter was raped (and accepts that she was where she should not have been to place herself in a potentially harmful situation) and was impregnated. She hid it from us, she decided on getting an abortion. She was professing faith in Christ at the time but went through with her decision. We found out months later after the fact. She went deeper into a bad lifestyle in all the guilt and shame of it. She regrets it so deeply now, we did not, still don't condemn her for it, she is suffering this out before the Lord now in much repenting and has made a real profession of faith. She has been in counseling and it is almost exactly 7 years later as of today, and has made some strides in leaving the whole circumstance behind her. The abortion was by far the worst part of it all to her. We speak of it only when she brings it up (that is rare now) to reaffirm our unconditional love.

Anonymous said...



Say it with me now....

Black Lives SPLATTER (clap, clap)

Black Lives SPLATTER (clap, clap)

Black Lives SPLATTER (clap, clap)


As X kneels before his Saint George statuette.

Anonymous said...

J,

It is obvious you came back to warn Constance about RayB.

You and Constance need to both be warned about your future meeting with the Lord.

HE may not recognize you, being corrupt Pharisees and all.

You both have much of that veil over your face!

You both seem comfortable with that veil.

Sad

Anonymous said...

“Potential” persons?

Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.


Isaiah 49:5 And now, saith the Lord that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the Lord, and my God shall be my strength.


Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus.

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?

35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.


Luke 2: 4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)

5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.

7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

Anonymous said...

4:40 PM

You are not the judge.

Anonymous said...

J,

How does Jeremiah 1:5 align with your view that a fetus is not a full person? Is there scripture that supports this view?

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Jeremiah-1-5/

J said...

3:45 and 4:25,

Thank you to both of you for having real conversations about real life with me. I appreciate just being able to do that as one Christian to another. It means a lot to me.

Anonymous said...

I'm with you, J @ 3:32 PM. I'm hoping to find an apolitical church also. The change started for me years ago at a campaign rally for a U.S. President. I was standing in the wings a few feet away as this allegedly faithful, strong Christian man signaled satanic hand signs to his inner circle. To make a long story short, it was just a month before the election. My feelings of betrayal and confusion were so deep, I didn't even vote that year. I started t look at what the scriptures really say. The Christian Right, the Moral Majority, neo-pentecostals, the abortion issue, continual wars - everything looked different. Unfortunately, my closest friends and prayer partners refused to even take a second look. I understand your isolation. Like you said, there's millions of us alienated Evangelicals. Perhaps we'll meet in a great church one day.

My feeling about abortion is that it's not a legal issue that the government should be involved in, except for the regulation of health care as in any other medical facility. Abortion is a spiritual and social issue. As my Civics teacher back in high school used to say, "we learned during Prohibition that you can't legislate goodness." Abortion is here to stay. As someone else said at 3:45 PM, the church, not government, should be stepping up to the plate. Some are doing that. The answer isn't in politics.

2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Linda

Anonymous said...

J,

You are right to warn Constance about RayB. He's obviously a troll to cause division and keep the discussion centered around personality conflict. His research amounts to posting from QAnon and MAGA Trump websites.

Linda

Anonymous said...

As I appreciate actual civil talk about real life with you, too. I posted those both responses.
And, I thank you.
I don't have to agree point for point in order to do that, as I know you don't either, but our common ground as Christians definitely makes it easier to process another's thoughts and walk away with the satisfaction that we go by what we know, but also know that we have not got all sides to all issues figured out..we still see through a glass darkly..but God gives light for the asking. It is promised, so we seek Him for that.

That's why our dependence upon God's counsel in His Word, and in the humble asking for the truth and discernment from His Spirit to shine upon it, is how we grow in our faith, and with His honor upheld.
In His love we can actually hear each other--talk to each other, not at each other, and walk together, too. I love that.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous

4:25 PM

How thankful we can be that there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus! Your daughter is truly blessed to have parents that demonstrate Christ's unconditional love.

Your story isn't unique. I know other parents who have similar stories. I have counseled with women whose Christian parents forced them to have an abortion when they were young. The wounds are deep.

Linda

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Linda.

No, sadly, it is not unique.
Oh yes, and deep..
Our church family has been so kind to our daughter as well.

My heart breaks for others in desperate straits and why we are active to support a local Celebrate Recovery - the one here is excellent, it is Christ centered, not a bandaid, and serve at church which is such a blessing to us (may you find a church that honors the Lord and His Word above all else).
We know, when you participate with all kinds of people, just people, helping them deal with their many hurts, habits, and hang ups, showing them the love of the Lord, sharing His truth for them to see His power in action in His forgiveness by way of His cross, the new life offered by the Risen Lord, it reminds you that it is true.....there, but for the grace of God, go I...and want to walk in the new every day life of Jesus, all the more..

Anonymous said...

'Linda' @ 5:32 PM

Sounds like an X clone....or..X?

Anonymous said...

Or X's wife?

Anonymous said...

WARNING APOSTATES: AMBER ALERT!

RayB is near

COVER YOUR EYES AND PLUG YOUR EARS

Anonymous said...

Anonymous

6:28 PM

Your situation reminded me of something that happened in a church I attended about 10 yrs. ago. A 17-yr. old girl was drugged and date raped. Like your daughter, she admitted that she was in a place where she shouldn't have been. To this day, she doesn't remember the actual rape, and only learned about her pregnancy because she was extremely sick. Her parents are very supportive of her, some of the church members were for a while. A very subtle pressure was placed on her, a black girl, to abort her baby. Others thought she should give the baby up for adoption. She was the church receptionist and was fired from her job. Then the gossip started that she was never raped and lied about the whole thing. All of this went on in a Bible-believing church that declared themselves to be pro-life. The young lady, with the support of her parents, very courageously chose to keep her baby and raise him in the fear of the Lord. They left that church and moved to another state and church where they were made to feel welcome. A Christ-centered church that ministers God's love to all is rare. I'm happy for you to have a church fellowship like that.

Linda

Anonymous said...

I’m on a really remote vacation and only have lobby internet.

J and Linda…God bless you two. I couldn’t have said any more than u already have.

X

Anonymous said...

“X it isn't a sin to "not vote" “

Perhaps…you go first. I’d be much more inclined to not vote if waves of Maga joined me & abandoned destroying our country and it’s Protestant & Public institutions.

X

Anonymous said...

"In His love we can actually hear each other--talk to each other, not at each other, and walk together, too."
This is what x won't and can't do.
He just talks at people, not to them.
Nobody wants to listen to his free screech.


Anonymous said...

'Cesspool', is what this blog has turned into thanks to the New Age humanistic apostate beliefs of Constance Cumbey, X, J, The rabid Brother James Key Cult follower, and X clone Linda.

The reality of what 'christian' has now become is apocalyptic!

I believe this is evidence of the great falling away.

Very sad.

Craig said...

Hmmmm. It's almost like the climate just keeps on changing. Even in prehistoric times when there wasn't any human-caused "Global Warming"/carbon emissions...

New dinosaur tracks brought to light in Texas state park as drought causes water to recede

Anonymous said...

Yawn, the only dinosaur round here is you, Craig.

We are living in the last days and these things are part and parcel of that. The selfishness and greed is destroying the Earth as rain forests are cut down, etc., etc.

Craig said...

Anon 1:02 AM,

I don't think anyone would disagree that rampant deforestation is bad. But that's not what I was talking about. Yet another red herring.

But be not afraid. Delta Airlines has been carbon neutral since March of 2020! They have been offsetting their carbon output with each flight.

Do You Yet Believe?

I will agree with your "selfishness and greed" comment, but in a different way.

J said...

11:06 PM,

But at least you did not accuse me of really, secretly being X. There is nothing worse in God's eyes than X! (sarcasm)

But you did imply something almost as bad by grouping X with us: we are just like X!

It's grown quite comical the way a few people resort to what should be named a new fallacy: the "X Fallacy."

On the wider internet, you know the discussion is going sideways when somebody is compared to Hitler! Here, you know it's going sideways when somebody is compared to X!

As one of my favorite commenters says sometimes, "Just disagree already."

J said...

In response to 11:06 PM, on a more serious note, it interested me to learn during my research that Christian Nationalism beliefs go DOWN the more people read the Bible.

Years ago I naively thought the real Christians left in America were the conservatives.

Now I see that the conservatives have done to their churches, more slowly, what the liberals had already done to their churches: made them less distinguishable from the world and its money and politics.

Jesus was different than the liberals of Jerusalem - the Sadducees. He was different than the conservatives of Jerusalem - the Pharisees.

Anonymous said...

Well J, we can be sure that X is not a Sadducee or a Pharisee, because he is "an easy going guy" and "middle of the road!"

J said...

Ah, it always comes back to X, sooner or later. Usually sooner. :) Even when he's traveling and not contributing, his one letter identifier is never far from thoughts and keyboards.

Anonymous said...

I honestly have never heard 'Christian Nationalism', until more recently on this blog. Is there actually an 'official' group that calls themselves Christian Nationalists??

Maybe J knows?

Where and when did the group begin?

Christian Nationalist doesn't sound dangerous. Is there a group of people who feel threatened by the Christian Nationalists? What do the threatened groups call themselves?

Anonymous said...

J,

X has recently been on vacation to the bright sunny beach in Florida, and even though he complained that it was difficult to see the screen on his phone, he still actively posted here.

I guess he loved us enough then to keep in touch. I hope he still loves us?
Where would we be without his "teaching us"?

Maybe Linda can fill in? They seem to be joined at THE brain cell.

J said...

9:17 AM,

Christian Nationalism was probably here from the very beginning. It has taken more liberal forms in the past.

I know, it doesn't sound like it could be that bad, contrasted with New Age Globalism.

That was my very first thought when I was exposed to the term.

I'll tell you what exemplifies it in our time. It's the very strong and powerful imagery of blood, the blood on the cross, and the blood of fallen soldiers. The two are fused, and the blood of the cross is not always considered to be something higher than the blood of fallen soldiers. An example of an actual pastor strongly promoting exactly this type of belief is Robert Jeffress. He has a huge megachurch in Texas.

Why is it threatening? Because in the post-Trump political landscape, some of its adherents are willing to resort to political violence and stochastic terrorism, and even larger numbers are willing to enable both. Witness January 6th.

Yes, Democrats are also willing to resort to political violence, and there have always been violent fringes on both sides. The violent fringes on both sides seem to have expanded and intensified in our time. But surveys show that the willingness to resort to political violence is actually larger on the Right in our day and age, even though in the Sixties, it was far larger on the Left.

Anonymous said...

"The post-Trump landscape" is a bleak wasteland of predetermined degradation, death, and destruction. Deep dark windup toy O'Biden is the perfect man for the finish!

Regardless, what we 'saints' must do, is focus our attention on the super scary Orange Man.

Anonymous said...

I’m more worried about the groups that elevated & supported Trump in the first place.

What monster will they elevate & present us with next?

Anonymous said...

It's sadd-u-cee, that J, is a backstabbing Pharisee

by Thirty Pieces of Silver

Anonymous said...

10:57 AM

The Scary Orange Man Mania, is just a 'look here, not there, tactic'.

Buy fearful, useful idiots like Cumbey, X, J, rabid BJK cultist, Linda ect. sure do make Satan's job easier!

J said...

11:00 AM,

Is there some loyalty test I haven't passed? What is that? Loyalty to Trump?

Or was it that I ceased supporting RayB once he had his knife out to stab Constance in the back, while she lay on her hospital bed?

Shouldn't Trump have avoided stabbing the Constitution in the back? He swore an oath of loyalty to it!

He's the backstabber! Now we have to worry he might have been trying to sell nuclear secrets to the Russians, the Saudis or who knows who!

Please explain yourself.

Anonymous said...

10:57 AM asked

"What monster will they elevate & present us with next?"

You mean Biden isn't "monster" enough for you?

Anonymous said...

11:08. “The Scary Orange Man Mania, is just a 'look here, not there, tactic'.”

Agreed, while the Luciferians build up Desantis as a more palatable alt right extremist.

Craig said...

Constance has written about/against Christian Nationalism for a while now (Rushdoony, e.g.). She has also written about/against the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), which seeks to do similar/same by the "Seven Mountains Mandate". And I have written about the NAR, mostly indirectly, in my criticisms of Bill Johnson's theology/christology.

And, yes, Trump has MUCH support from NAR-oriented folks.

HOWEVER, this DOES NOT mean that ALL those who support(ed) Trump did so because of the above. Some support(ed) him for his policies. As for me, I supported him, e.g., due to his 'America First' policy (though he did not get much traction on this because of globalist opponents), as well as his kept-promises to get us out of (a) the Paris Climate Accord and (b) the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Both of the latter are particular disadvantageous to the US (China, India, and Russian have no interest in abiding by PCA, and the TPP mainly benefits China, to my understanding). [And Biden, a globalist puppet, immediately put us back into both the PCA and TPP.]

It will prove beneficial for readers here to review Cumbey's bullet points here:

https://cumbey.blogspot.com/2021/08/preface-to-polish-edition-of-hidden.html

I'll highlight a few (note the criticisms of Wuhan-19 and "global warming"/"climate change"):

● The Earth Summit was held in Rio de Janeiro in late May 1992 and produced Agenda 21 manifestos and inter-governmental pacts directed against “global warming” and towards “biodiversity,” meaning that humans have nore more right to life on this earth than any life form.

● The World Economic Forum headed by Klaus Schwab that includes many of the world’s wealthiest and powerful have started strong pushes towards Global Governance, many of which would greatly increase China’s power. They are also among the strongest proponents of the "Great Reset".

● The terminology for “world government” and/or “global governance” is suddenly frequently changed to “multilateralism.”

● On October 18, 2019 an “Event 201 is held in New York City with “virtual audiences” in many other locations. They present “simulated” videos of a global pandemic originating from a pig infested coronavirus spreading its infection first in Brazil and then globally. It project shutting down the travel industry, the stock market, and giving cause for need to regulate the internet to prevent “misinformation” and “disinformation.” That event wa co-sponsored by the World Economic Forum, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and Johns Hopkins University.

● Less than 10 weeks later, on December 20, 1999, here comes Wuhan, the “Coronavirus” and “Covid119.” The world during 2020 goes into virtual lockdown with the travel industry, the banking industry, employment, restaurants, many small businesses and some large ones collapsing.

● Medical martial law becomes a virtual reality world-wide and here in the USA. What could not be accomplished by scare calls about “global warming,’ “climate change,” and terrorism are accomplished by virtually shutting down the economy. Those questioning the events are promptly labeled as “conspiracy theorists” while at the same time, The World Economic Forum, Johns Hopkins University and many, many other forces use this to press for a New World Order as part of “The Great Reset. Those raising a critical eyebrow are promptly labelled “conspiracy theorist” and steps are taken to regulate their means of communication.

Anonymous said...

J @ 11:13 AM

J, Russia possesses approximately 5,977 nuclear weapons, which it can launch from missiles, submarines, and aircraft. Enough to destroy all life on earth many times over! What nuclear secrets would Trump have to SELL the ruskies? They have no need for nuclear secrets. That's 1960's paranoia!

But just keep the CIA controlled Massive Media propaganda spinning around in your skull. Maybe it's euphoria inducing for you?



Craig said...

Many 'Christian Nationalists' like to appeal to 2 Chronicles 7:14 in support of their stance. I've argued that this verse was specifically directed to Israel and has NO BEARING on the US or any other country. Many years ago, on a different forum, I had a conversation with a seminary graduate who agreed re applicability to Israel, but contended that the verse could apply to Christians in a broader sense. I disagreed then, and I disagree now. My response: what/whose "land" will be 'healed' in response to Christians' contrition?

RayB said...


I wasn't going to address this infantile silliness, but ...

J stated (in part) @ 11:13 AM:

"Or was it that I ceased supporting RayB once he had his knife out to stab Constance in the back, while she lay on her hospital bed?"

And ... (maybe the J is short for the heroic Joan of Arc?) ... J states @ 3:32 PM:

"The main reason why I came back was to warn Constance about RayB." ROFL !!

NOTE: What J is referring to is that I pointed out an obvious connection between X and Constance, regarding their comments which reflect VERY similar positions. As you may recall, Constance has referred to those on the Right as "Racists," "Anti-Semites," "Trump Worshippers," "followers of a false Jesus," "Q-Anon Cult Members," "false Christians," "New Agers," etc., etc. and now the latest compliment "Radical Right Wingers that dwell in a "Cesspool."

The ONLY point I was making at that time was that X and Constance are near carbon copies of each other when it comes to their stated attacks upon Conservatives on this blog.

J, if you want to use hyperbole in describing me, go right ahead. It still is a free country, in spite of Biden and the Communists in the Democratic Death Cult's efforts to change that.

Craig said...

I should clarify/expand my 11:37 AM. The NAR uses 2 Chronicles 7:14 in part to support their occultic practice of "Strategic Level Spiritual Warfare", thereby supposedly 'Christianizing' geographic areas (after initial "Spiritual Mapping") by 'binding' supposed 'territorial (demonic) spirits' (citing Dan 10:13, 20).

RayB said...


Just a thought about J's "POTENTIAL PERSON" label for what used to be referred to as a baby. Liberals are great at this. For years, they referred to the baby as a fetus, and before that, it was an "insignificant glob of cells." Funny how Liberals can't stand it when photos of a baby in the womb are displayed. It just doesn't go along with their preconceived notions that it is NOT A BABY.

Maybe J can help them out?

I can't remember anyone ever announcing that they were pregnant and that the "POTENTIAL PERSON" was due to arrive in ...." In my world, the pregnancy always involves a BABY, and not a "POTENTIAL PERSON." Oh well, maybe I'm just old fashioned.

Maybe our progressive J has started a new trend?

Kind of similar to calling a biological man a woman and allowing him to use the little girls room, or, not being able to define exactly what a woman even is like our latest Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Onyika Brown Jackson. She's very smart, and Constance just knows Justice Jackson is also pro-life even though she has a history of being pro-abortion. Constance knows better than us all because Former Speaker of the House Paul Ryan has 'no problem' with Justice Ketanji Onyika Brown Jackson, and that folks, is GOOD ENOUGH FOR CONSTANCE! And if you don't agree with Constance, well, just enjoy your swim in the Cesspool because that's where you all belong!

Anonymous said...

Well stated RayB @ 11:50 AM

"infantile silliness" is a valid position from which Democrats wage war on reality.

It truly is a mental illness.

You will always be condemned, ostracized, gnawed upon, and spit upon, and worse, for standing upon biblical truth. It is a barometer indicating you are alive in the Spirit.

That is why they dislike you. But don't let it go to your head.

RayB said...


Anonymous @11:30 AM ...

You need to cut J some slack. She must know something that you don't. Perhaps it's this:

Russia had Trump over a barrel because of the Steele Dossier (the one bought and paid for by the Clinton Campaign). Now, the Russians knew it was a fake, Trump knew it was a fake, the FBI knew it was a fake, Obama knew it was a fake, the media knew it was a fake, but, But, BUT ... the Russians had Trump over a barrel and were going to expose the well known fake Steele Dossier if Trump didn't cooperate and fork over our Nuclear secrets. Got it?

Or, it could be even worser: Trump could be an actual puppet of Putin and Putin told him 'before you leave the White House, make sure you get me those Nuclear secrets.' I read somewhere on the internet that Trump's real name is Trumpski, which is about as Russian as it gets.

However way this plays out, if you study (you have to read underneath all those redactions) the search warrant, you'll see that the FBI was well within their legal means because Trump obviously __----____----__---__-----__----___-----.

It's all there for you to see it, that is, if you have the eyes to see. Maybe you need to wipe away all that gunk from your eyes from swimming too long in that Cesspool?

Anonymous said...

"I'll tell you what exemplifies it in our time. It's the very strong and powerful imagery of blood, the blood on the cross, and the blood of fallen soldiers. The two are fused, and the blood of the cross is not always considered to be something higher than the blood of fallen soldiers"
I agree.
But still only one facet of the whole.

I also know that socialists--what our government, by years in the making, has proudly "come out of the closet" with--try to "out socialist" Jesus like they're gooder than God. Their idea in their end game is more merciful to the human condition than God's?? It makes me want to puke. So---Not in any way do I mean Jesus is a socialist...but that His perfect ways of right relating to God and relating to each other, to all of His creation (that He accomplished in the ULTIMATE RESET for us at the Cross), is the standard that socialism actually mocks and thinks in it's humanism that it can emulate-doesn't want Christianity's God--just wants His results, but it doesn't work that way dear folks.. So it's not even close, yet what Pelosi-the power drunk authoritarian, equates being a 'good christian' to, (I need to find the videos of her making such claims because they're out there) she says (sure Nance) because we are a christian nation according to her--oh God please--so Biden, Pelosi, et al, policies are what the left holds up as 'obeying jesus' (my small j on purpose)--they know best and you'd better believe that...at the border, in our schools, keeping abortion the be all end all 'right' of women, playing god with our health and healthcare, in letting criminals walk, in allowing same-sex to trans lasciviousness while calling it liberty get a pass, in disarming our citizens right to protect themselves (because the government will do it for you?? are you kidding me?), on and on and on--our government wants, demands it now, our absolute allegiance--in direct opposition and in direct competition to the real Gospel that real Christians uphold, and as our Constitution at it's founding was intended to shore up--not replace!

And then there's good ole globalism--the world has been under global controls down through time, every era has somebody that aims for that goal--again all in competition to--and in direct violation of GOD ALMIGHTY.

CONT..

Anonymous said...

CONT..

It's the good, the bad, and the ugly--all trying to package and repackage themselves as ultimate Good, as the answer, where all hopes are to be placed, in order to deceive and hoodwink people into believing that their version of "good = god" is supreme. Well, it not. So good ole "Motherhood and apple pie" still fall short.
Meanwhile the devil is rummaging through and picking off souls to burn with him forever.
The 'good', even what can be called good or is just called that in a time when good is called evil and evil is called good--regardless now and water under the bridge--the good, is still the in the larger scheme of things, the enemy of THE BEST--and JESUS THE BEST..and still GOD.
Lots of people are falling through the government cracks and always have because one size still doesn't fit all, and the cracks are much wider now under the lefts' extra controlling heavy hand and thanks RINO right for helping that be so, but even in good policy, good aims which are now basically toast in all the long time and now even deeper compromises (Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney, very good examples of this), and sorry X----you really miss the mark here--as an example of trying to browbeat people to thinking it more 'righteous' or some other notion you have, but what you advocate is just another repackaged kingdom now philosophy--government is not able to be Who God is, and should be, to us who claim He is the Lord!! Bunk.
Governing is now exclusively our enemy--from the left, from the right, from right down the middle of middle America because they are all vying for total--they want total--control--------that rightly belongs to GOD. And control will rightfully go back to Him when this 'human experiment' is over, That's the best people can do, is just experiment with the human condition.
God is overseeing it all, has never been not in control, He rules with His feet up in His recliner so to speak because He is not one moment anxious about it all--but our freewill (a gift from Him to us) must be given opportunity to try and fail at 'god-ness'..and find out HE has never left the top spot, never will.
It's surrender or die. God deserves to be worshiped--I pray people surrender to the Lord--there is no time like the present......

And there it is--The Rub with some people, from varying corners of human thought and practice.
God doesn't need you---------you need HIM.
Quit trying to take His Glory already!!! (I said it that way for you J since you mentioned my other little hokey comment)

RayB said...


Biden Calls on the Mob (Biden Goes Full Constance)

From the article:

"The Dems decided they needed a little presidential revival before the midterms to fire up their base -- which isn’t looking very motivated at the moment. They gave President Gremlin a few days of vacation to rest up, a couple of shots of Adderall to switch on long-dormant brain cells, and a few hits of oxygen so he could walk out onto the stage without collapsing.

They trotted Biden out to a friendly audience in a suburb of Washington, D.C., and he gave a real barn-burner of a speech.

We learned that Joe has an advanced case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. He said:

"We’re seeing now either the beginning or the death knell of an extreme MAGA agenda. It’s not just Trump… It’s almost semi-fascism."

Our uniter in chief believes anyone who could be counted among the MAGA movement is a fascist -- sorry, semi-fascist, if that makes any difference. He doesn’t just hate Donald Trump. He hates anyone who doesn’t hate Donald Trump. And the Democrats endorse this attitude because they’re no longer in the business of winning the competition of ideas. They’re in the business of amassing and applying raw governmental power."

Read the entire article here:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/08/biden_calls_on_the_mob.html

Anonymous said...

I'm not RayB, but I have to admit for a while, it was diffiCULT to see much difference between X, and Constance.



Anonymous said...

Maybe X is 'out of town' because he has been 'spotted' by TPTB as a great potential speech writer for NAZI O'Biden. He is busy now on assignment.

X, and the Kenyan seated in a secure space, plotting the sacrifice of America for their New Age NWO Lucifer!

Heady stuff for our "teacher".



J said...

12:37 PM (the other 12:37 PM - before RayB),

Very well put, and I completely agree with everything you wrote.

Government can't replace God. Historically the social gospel turned into social justice with no gospel. It's a form of godliness that denies the power thereof. That's why it can only fail. Human nature unregenerated is not good enough.

Turning America collectively and forcibly to God won't work, either.

It will take the Great Commission, one individual at a time. But saving America - in the form of the cultural and political influence of the aggregate of saved individuals who behave and vote according to conscience - would only be the secondary consequence of the primary purpose of individual redemption.

I can very easily imagine you serving the Great Commission. I can't imagine RayB serving it. I can only imagine him yelling in an echo chamber. I can't imagine him communicating to people who don't already think exactly how he does.

Anonymous said...

Craig @7:26 AM,

Sorry I was harsh in my 1:02 AM comment. Given my remarks, your gentle response has eased my opinion of you.


On this occasion, with hindsight, I agree my post was a red herring.

Anonymous said...

Globalist 'death cult' launches all-out war on the essential elements of life: MUST-WATCH VIDEO

leohohmann.com/2022/08/24/globalist-death-cult-launches-all-out-war-on-the-essential-elements-of-life-must-watch-video/

Anonymous said...

12:54 PM

You said it.
It was even more her tone that bothered me and I was surprised at some very broad comments she made against conservatives while standing in favor of ultra liberal KBJ (now on Supreme Court, God help us) because..um...Paul Ryan gave his thumbs up? That's scary!
That's scary to me because it is the cult of personality thing going on. According to her that is only what conservatives exclusively do with Trump (and yes some do but not everybody), so wait just a dang minute...that cultish thing appears in a number of other places on the political spectrum..

Anonymous said...

1:13 PM
Thanks for that admission.

Craig is one of the best posters here, with an even hand and milder manner.

Anonymous said...

THE CULT OF CUMBEY: WHAT CONSTANCE THINKS

NOT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN!

Anonymous said...

Speaking of children!

Teacher kicks student out of class for saying there are only 2 genders, keeps citing "school authority policy"

media.gab.com/system/media_attachements/files/114/272/000/playable/360b33143869be39.mp4

Anonymous said...

Yes 1:38 PM

Craig has also taken much raw slander from our good dr X.

Speaking truth results in persecution.

Anonymous said...


"Government can't replace God. Historically the social gospel turned into social justice with no gospel. It's a form of godliness that denies the power thereof."

That is exactly the verse I quoted to X about his take. It leaves the Gospel kicked to the curb.
But I do know that it comes in more forms than just his, though.

Self-righteous people governing in a self-righteous "my way or the highway" attitude are found in places within the whole political landscape.
Attitude can make or break a lot of things..even good things.
And unhumbled America is now being broken. The Prophet Jeremiah cried buckets of tears pleading with Israel over very much the same.
Indeed, God was then and is now, for all practical purposes and in a lot of public places , even in His own Church, kicked to the curb.
America has forgotten God, paid Him lip service, while waving various religious, political, social and culture, flags in His face.

Anonymous said...

Lawless FBI - A Threat to America's Constitutional Republic

thegatewatpundit.com/2022/08/lawless-fbi-threat-americas-democracy/

Anonymous said...

"It will take the Great Commission, one individual at a time. But saving America - in the form of the cultural and political influence of the aggregate of saved individuals who behave and vote according to conscience - would only be the secondary consequence of the primary purpose of individual redemption."


You hit the jackpot, J.

And I have made it my aim to stay out of the fray in the weedy marshes of politics to keep the main thing the main thing. I've been invited to many meetings that I have turned down-every time. That is not where my energies are to be used. I come close in calling out government and social issues in talking with friends, family, all of us with questions and thoughts on the matter, because we have to look at it and assess it with our conscience and act accordingly-and while we have been free enough to-vote too--but maintaining the focus, that all this too shall pass--it is no cake walk out there in society now to stand for one's beliefs and not tip over into one biased side or the other as you try to do it. It's a minefield. And the devil sits on the sidelines egging it all on--laughing hard at all the major distractions he has created. Again...God sees, no surprise to Him.

And why I considered not voting at all at one point.
But the Lord didn't let me do that, because I asked Him yes or no, vote or not, and I got an answer from reading my Bible, and in a very timely fashion. So yes, I gladly voted for President Trump. Twice. I was my part, my statement and stand for which I did it, whether he won or not. And still think the lion's share of what people cast at him is over. the. top.

But now, I don't feel the same. And not even because of him per say, though I still don't like much his tone much either. He has not been, still would not be, if elected again, a 'savior'. Now, to me, because everything has reached a too toxic level..and voting is not going to happen now. Not fairly anyway, and I believe it didn't happen fairly last time. Forces at work against our republic have seen to it. That is way bigger than Trump. Far worse is about to make a landing. Stick a fork in it-we are done--we are under global rule now. The engine is revving for it right this moment. Those unelected elites have taken us by stealth and by open handed compromise people have been willing to make, government, church, and people alike, like scared and/or lazy sheep. Covid, not the virus itself (engineered in what I make of it thank you Rand Paul for chasing that down), the manipulated morass response, showed us our metal--weak--very weak. Climate change, the manufactured scare warfare waged with it, is taking our livelihoods..our normal lives away. We are going to be as the rest of the world. At their mercy--their fake version of mercy.
BUT! All to the favor of the Gospel, in God's economy--whether people believe it or not--a remnant is still to come in. God saves souls, not nations.

J said...

3:45 PM,

You've put it very eloquently and said a lot of things I believe, too. I don't believe we're living in the end times, but it doesn't change everything we agree about.

In voting, all we can do is to make our choices according the available information we have at the time, guided by the Bible and conscience. We have no pure choices available in this life.

Whatever happens next - and whatever emerges next about any possible malfeasance done by Trump - I will never support retroactively holding it against every Trump voter. I don't at all support broadbrushing all Trump voters as domestic terrorists, like RayB just suggested Joe Biden and Constance both support. I very much doubt that is true of Constance. I know it's not true of me.

I donated money to True the Vote. I belonged to Mothers for America. Mothers for America raised money for the speeches held at the capital on January 6th. I'm no more a domestic terrorist, semi-fascist or insurrectionist than you are.

I understand, and I have always understood, that Trump and MAGA were a check and balance against globalism and wokeness.

That said, news is starting to trickle out about a disturbing timeline:

Known Timeline:

1. 7/31/2019: Trump spoke with Putin (NYT)

2. 8/3/2019: Trump issued a request for a list of top US spies (The Daily Beast)

3. 10/5/2021: "CIA Admits to Losing Dozens of Informants". (NYT)

4. 8/26/2022: Documents at MAL Could Compromise Human Intel (NYT) 1/5

It's still early days, and maybe this is speculative. Maybe this is biased. But this could get very bad.

It's a good time to be focused on the policies like Craig bullet pointed and a bad time to be defending Trump the personality. So I think it's good that you have no particular emotional attachment to him as a personality.

On the other hand, God who sees all may know this is really some kind of witch hunt. I don't really know.

He could have made a lot of money by selling state secrets. I sure hope he really didn't do it.

Anonymous said...

You major in not really knowing J, but you ramble on from the ditch on the right side of the road, to the ditch on the left side of the road.

Yes J, Trump just needed the money! LOL (NYT)

As far as personality goes, Trump has one, but President Mummy Man ain't home! (NYT)

Keep Drinking that kool aid. (NYT)

Anonymous said...

Vaccinated blood is tainted blood, study finds

naturalnews.com/2022-08-25-vaccinated-blood-is-tainted-blood-study-finds.html

Anonymous said...

4:11 PM At J

Thanks for the conversation. Once again, we can bounce things off of each other and I think they are very important things to consider.

We shall see..I am going to give Trump and the most of his many voters the benefit of the doubt, but I am not ignorant of crazies out there. I pray for God to expose all evil, any and everywhere.
I think we can easily see and know very powerful people in very high places are dead set against him. Honestly, because of who his enemies are, and they do have knives out for him (since day 1), it makes me tend to believe him, raw he is, but regard him as a straight shooter in my book..(and I say that knowing there are people that come and go all around him that are into crap--with religious spin on it too)..but he himself? well, again, we shall see. It will have to be proven to me, not speculated or engineered to get me to think otherwise.
I just know I don't need to convince anybody else, but be convinced myself. So God be our guide, as you and I have agreed.

And end times? Well, not my job to convince you of that either. A little bit more time will straighten that out too, for me perhaps, or for you....

God bless you and yours.

J said...

I love your gracious spirit, 6:10 PM. God bless you and yours, too.

Anonymous said...

Craig 11:37 AM,

I agree with you. When people quote that verse in reference to America, I've felt a little cringe inside myself.
As a principle alone it might have somewhat spiritual application, as a promise from God it was intended for Israel.

RayB said...


J said @ 1:11 PM (in part):

"I can very easily imagine you serving the Great Commission. I can't imagine RayB serving it. I can only imagine him yelling in an echo chamber. I can't imagine him communicating to people who don't already think exactly how he does."

Really J? We conversed in a spirit of grace for a very long time, even though we didn't agree on points of theology. I prayed for you. Then suddenly, you came down with the Trump Derangement Syndrome and just as suddenly I became an object for your venom, which, quite frankly, shocked me. You even (amazingly) stated that I was the reason you came back to the blog because you needed to "warn Constance about me."
I'm that dangerous, right J? I'm the same person I was before. I DO stand for the truth as God has revealed that truth to me. I make no apologies for that.

You have become extremely judgmental. How do you know what I, or anyone else for that matter, has done with the 'Great Commission?' In the time that you've been absent from this blog, have you somehow become Omniscient, able now to judge how a person spends his or her time outside of this blog? Amazing!

Anonymous said...

Oh the irony…amazing even.

X

J said...

RayB 7:56 PM,

You and Constance have had gracious conversations at times over the years, no?

You were saying all kinds of things about Constance when she was sick in the hospital and not around to defend herself.

When she came back you never skipped a beat to tell her you were glad she was well. You just went straight to your links with your comments.

I brought your accusations about Constance up with you several times. You completely ignored me. Completely. Rich addressed them. You completely ignored him.

You suddenly stopped calling X "she." You seemed to have changed your mind, yet never acknowledged that you were ever in error.

Time went on, and you were acting just like nothing happened.

I can't act just like nothing happened. I think it was wrong to say accusatory things about the blog author when she was on her sick bed in the hospital and was not around to defend herself.

It seemed to me as if you were out to get her.

Yet all this time she's never tried to censor you. Venom? You show a lot of venom toward her.

She has a whole history of blog archives to disprove things you've said about her.

Craig just brought up some bullet points from 2018. You were around in 2018. Did you forget all about those topics?

It seems to me that YOU are the one who has Trump Derangement Syndrome.

You have been out to get Constance ever since she dared criticize Trump and praise Liz Cheney.

I thought you would vent and get it out of your system, but you held a grudge that only gets more bitter with time.

I do recall our gracious conversations, and that is the reason why I brought this topic up so gently with you the first time I brought it up. It caused me cognitive dissonance. I tried to resolve it by supposing maybe you really were involved in cult-like thinking without realizing or intending it.

Can I be your perfect judge, no; but I can't pretend like nothing ever happened, either.

If you had ever explained yourself instead of completely ignoring me, it could have been helpful.

Anonymous said...

Yes, indeed X.

Rofl.

It's certainly rich coming from rayb, or is it rayb coming from rich? IMAO!

Anonymous said...

De-Ray-nged-B, LOL.

Anonymous said...

Did you mention, RayB?

He's unwell, poor thing.


Anonymous said...

@8:56 p.m.,

He's not the brightest of posters nor the nicest. He's insulting the blog's author without shame. I think he has something missing in the brain department too.

Anonymous said...

J,

RayB used to agree and like my posts too until he figured out I wasn’t in his Maga tribe.

Once I started signing my posts as requested by Craig, it’s been harassment ever since.

I’m not perfect but u may have missed some of my more recent posts explaining my mocking tone and rhetoric trying to express the absurdity of this cult like thinking by flipping it and mocking it. Teaching by example. Yeah it comes off as disrespectful but it’s better than just opposition and conflict. For example, 1:53 pm has again indicated complete understanding of intended lesson while she’s trying to criticize me.

I’m sure you still don’t like me or my style. I just so appreciate the opportunity to witness repentance in action (to change your mind). It’s not of me and I certainly don’t want, need or deserve credit. God changes people not me. But I did say I felt you were a reachable one here. I was right about that much. I apologize again for any harsh words or disrespect I showed you. God bless you, my sister in Christ.

X



Anonymous said...

Hi X,

Yes, and vice-versa, RayB was the harshest of the Resident New Ager of the blog, Christine, till she too decided Trump was a light-worker, and they both had an idol in chief to worship together, aka, Trump.

Says it all, doesn't it!

Anonymous said...

Appendage to my 9:21 post:

My use of the pronoun, 'she', refers to Christine, not RayB - he may be in the habit of calling men, 'she', I, however, am not: it seems a bit of a queer-anon thing to do, doesn't it?

Anonymous said...

Btw, X, I do think your use of the pronoun, 'she', when refering to the 1:53 PM poster is correct - that poster is full of bile, yet there is still something very feminine about the style of writing, so I would have made the same guess, not having anything else to go on.

Anonymous said...

She may prefer “they”

If that’s the one that said she’s been here since the beginning of this blog I traced her back to the poster Dianna, I think. I knew the name at one time. Might know again when I get home to my computer. Limited time to read and post here let alone research anything.

Plus when “they” complained one time they revealed themselves to have been born female.

Never know with these new age Aquarius types.

X

Anonymous said...

"Never know with these new age Aquarius types."

Absolutely, X.,

Once I went over to see one of Christine's YouTube posts and was shocked to notice a very male face wearing what appeared to be a wig - even a few whiskers still on the chin in that one.

We don't really know which way RayB is secretly swingin' either.

Quite worrying indeed.

Anonymous said...

Christine thinks Trump is a light worker? As in 1000 points of light kind?

Anonymous said...

Cumbey Cult Worship in action. Disgusting.

Constance Cumbey has been the rudest poster for the life of the blog. She has a history of contempt for conservative Christians here.

She deserves Zero respect.

She is mentally ill, and full of bitter hatred.

But you leftist will always flip reality. It's just your nature.

Constance lives in a dark world of TDS paranoia. She trusts in the things of this world, but wants to be thought of as a Christian? Anti New Age? She promotes it. Just the part that suits her.

So J, what would you warn Constance about RayB? Your just a constant source of drivel. Hogwash! Like Constance needs your warning! Your a very self important person.

The thing is J, you also have contempt for real Christians. You will fellowship with X, and his like, but now RayB is the bad guy. For telling truth I guess. He didn't want you to moderate him here. He didn't have to answer your questions. So now your the blog boss here? You can't even be expected to have an understandable world view! Your all over the wide path! It's this one day, and the opposite a few days later. I think your still scared from your upbringing in the cult. Honestly, you need counseling from a wise Christian woman, so you can build a foundation of faith. Your just a very unstable person now, and you make this already dumpster fire of a blog even worse! You seem to thrive on controversy. That's a fact.

Anonymous said...

"If that’s the one that said she’s been here since the beginning of this blog I traced her back to the poster Dianna,"

I've not been here near that long......
I love being a girl, by the way.


But X needs to man up..about a ton of things.
Have fun with those feet to the fire..

Anonymous said...

10:33 PM
That was a terrible post.


And it is X who volunteered to monitor the blog, not J.

J is a thoughtful poster, her own person, and brings much to this blog.

X's kiss up to her is hilarious!

Anonymous said...


10:33 PM pathetically penned,

“So J, what would you warn Constance about RayB? Your just a constant source of drivel. Hogwash! Like Constance needs your warning! Your a very self important person.”

Your use of, “your” here (twice, no less) reveals your utter stupidity. Before reaching ten years of age I knew the difference between ‘your’ (an adjectival pronoun) and ‘you’re’ (a contraction of, ‘you are’). You’re utterly stupid (see what I did there).

Your disparaging remarks against Constance are beneath contempt. You wrote: ‘Constance lives in a dark world of TDS paranoia. She trusts in the things of this world…’

You imply the things of Trump are not of this world; if you mean the things of Trump are straight out of Hell, you’d be right, but no, your comments betray your belief that Trump is a savior, Trump is your messiah. Well, unlike your choice, the only Messiah of Constance Cumbey is Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, the True Messiah.

You’re a child of the Devil, 10:33 PM, for you do the things he does and it is he you follow; he has been a liar and murderer from the beginning.

Anonymous said...

10:55 PM [Karen, is it?] wrote,

‘I love being a girl, by the way.’

We’ll take your word for it. Yet you then have the gall to presuppose what a man should be, in your unladylike rant, snapping in childish and ungodly rebellion of the New Age feminist kind (I imagine you dress up in Doc Martens boots, dungarees and sport a crew cut), telling X to ‘…man up’

If you’re not a man, why on Earth do you think you’d know what being one and behaving like one is? Kindness, as X had shown in his latest post to J. is certainly not an unmanly trait. If you think otherwise, that is because you are of the Devil himself.

I suggest you stick to trying to behave more woman like, if that’s what you truly are (I sincerely have my doubts).

11:15 PM,

You are the only joke around here, you sad excuse of a human being. You are a viper in whom there is no love nor natural affection to be found.

X stood his ground yet was polite and behaved as a Christian should do in his post to J.

You’re a cold and venomous little worm who needs to cry out to God in Jesus Name and be saved from your abject misery and spite.

The Lord rebuke you, Satan!





Anonymous said...

2:04 AM

I will have to remember to spell check next time thank you. I would love to see a critique of Christine's punctuation from you. Sam Kinison style, as an SNL skit!

Your venom tells me that YOU are "a child of the devil", not just a TDS sufferer, and an ultra left wing apostate. Try chamomile tea, and an exorcism.

The raging hatred shows you are of the same Pharisaical spirit as Constance. It is a vicious spirit indeed.











Anonymous said...

!!:15 PM

The pot calling the kettle black much?

X goes from viper, to sweet choir boy, as needed.

J, sows discord here as much as anyone, because she shifts around like sand on a sand dune. AND she can be a nasty back stabber. Ask RayB. AND she is a bit NUTS.

Anonymous said...

11:15 PM NOT !!:15 PM

Anonymous said...

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RayB said...

J,

Re: your 8:44 AM post:

I wasn't going to answer this, but decided it needs to be addressed in order to clarify my posts that merely IMPLIED that Constance MAY have actually been posting under X's name.

I was not the only blogger, nor was I the first, to suspect that Constance was occasionally posting under X's name. The evidence that fueled that suspicion was the remarkable similarities between X and Constance in their use of derogatory, inflammatory, and quite often flat out lies while making wild, unfounded accusations against conservative, Bible believing Christians. I already enumerated some of these similarities in my post @ 11:50 AM, in which I stated:

"NOTE: What J is referring to is that I pointed out an obvious connection between X and Constance, regarding their comments which reflect VERY similar positions. As you may recall, Constance has referred to those on the Right as "Racists," "Anti-Semites," "Trump Worshippers," "followers of a false Jesus," "Q-Anon Cult Members," "false Christians," "New Agers," etc., etc. and now the latest compliment "Radical Right Wingers that dwell in a "Cesspool."

The ONLY point I was making at that time was that X and Constance are near carbon copies of each other when it comes to their stated attacks upon Conservatives on this blog."

The point is this; Constance has inflamed the situation by her often reckless, slanderous and unfounded accusations and labels, a very similar tactic that is consistently employed by X. Incidentally, have you ever read where Constance rebukes X? How about when X was repeatedly calling me a MURDERER because I didn't take the EXPERIMENTAL 'vaccine?' He even stated, on a number of occasions, that I actually attempted to MURDER MY WIFE! Constance's response to all of this? DEAD SILENCE!

Again, I am not the first nor the only blogger to suspect that Constance, on occasion, had posted under X's name. Rich cleared this up by categorically stating that she is NOT posting under X's name. I accepted that. However, that does not excuse her hatred towards Conservative Christians as expressed in her numerous slanderous attacks upon us.

There's more ...

Anonymous said...

“There's more ... “

Don’t bother.

RayB said...

(continued)

"Paul" is a sincere, Bible believing Christian that converted from the darkness of unbiblical Roman Catholicism. Paul often exposed the errors of the RCC, while using the Bible to refute these errors, along with the false 'salvation' that is available through the RCC, it's 'eucharist,' etc. Paul also spoke out against the ongoing pedophile priest scandals, along with the Vatican's subsequent cover-ups.

For this, Paul was viciously attacked. A fanatical, vulgar, "Anonymous" Catholic (he liked to use the "f" word), who identified himself as an "Irish Catholic," threatened Paul with physical violence on a number of occasions (as he did to me as well) while stating "we know who you are and where you live." He then took it to the next level by DOXXING Paul. Paul, an excellent blogger, left the blog and has never returned.

What was Constance's response to all of this? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, as in ZERO (other than a meek "we shouldn't use bad language"). Regarding Paul (and I) being threatened with violence? No response. Paul being doxxed, again, no response!

When I was recently (falsely) doxxed by a deranged, hate filled blogger, where was Constance? Rich made a statement (paraphrase): "I don't think this doxxed person is RayB." The response from Constance (the owner of the Blog)... NOTHING. No rebuke, no "hey, don't dox people on my Blog," .... NOTHING.

Check back over the years and read all of the unfounded, hate filled labeling that Constance has applied to Conservative Bible Believing Christians in the past. Then come back and tell me who it is that is adding fuel to the fire of hate on this blog. While you are searching, try to find ANYTHING that is similar in her treatment of the RADICAL 'religious' LEFT.

The only reasonable conclusion that can be drawn; Conservatives are BAD ... Liberals are GOOD.

Anonymous said...

You'll garner no sympathy from the SANE and SAVED posters at this blog, RayB.

We all know what a nasty, racist piece of work you are.

Anonymous said...

Also RayB,
When many of us were standing up in Paul's defense, there was little imput from you.

Christine along with Anonymous(es?)
was a primary player in doxing Paul and initiated it. Yet, because Christine has almost the same level of Trump Derangement Syndrome as you have, you've gotten all cuddly and squishy with her, despite her constant venom and demonically New Age views and evil lifestyle.

If Paul is reading this blog, I doubt he'd think your emotional squish and figurative squeezing under the bedsheets between Christine and her unrepentant Satanist is something to behold as the faithful actions of a friend or self-proclaimed 'Christian'.

J said...

RayB 12:48 & 12:11,

Constance will need to speak for herself, but have you ever called her or emailed her directly? It's just a suggestion.

For my part, I appreciate knowing your perspective, and now I'm sure many will find me wishy washy for suspending my judgment and being quiet for a while and just listening and observing.

But it was a little disorienting to me with the series of comments flying back and forth last night from Anonymous commenters.

I even thought my friend here was mad at me, then I realized it wasn't her.

I don't know who or what to think X is anymore. He does seem to me like he is very forgiving of me even though I have made fun of him. I would think he would hate me.

While it's true I have a strong argumentative streak, in real life I am frequently also a quiet observer and listener of other people.

I am high in empathy, and when everybody's perspective clashes all at the same time, it can sometimes feel disorienting to me.

Right now if you don't mind, I think I will just take a break, observe, and wait until I feel like I have a more settled perception of everything and everybody.

Anonymous said...

RayB,

Don't bother irritating us with your pity party here any longer. What you have written about Constance here and your disparaging libel against her is beyond shameless - and not a word of repentance nor sincere apology from you has been forthcoming. You are fortunate Constance is not like you, RayB and hasn't sought damages against you.

You don't even have the courage or love in your heart to sincerely and heartily apologize to X and Constance for the lies, slander (actually, actionable libel) you have viciouly and unrelentingly spread about them here. I am sure Paul would be horrified by the ungodly campaign of backstabbing against Constance here, which you have orchestrated and headed here.

Save it for Judgment Day.

Anonymous said...

RayB said: “ The evidence that fueled that suspicion was the remarkable similarities between X and Constance in their use of derogatory, inflammatory, and quite often flat out lies while making wild, unfounded accusations against conservative, Bible believing Christians.”

Blanket accusation devoid of any evidence.

Debunking RayB’s many lies might be “ inflammatory” to Rayb and other liars here, personally, but it’s not genuinely inflammatory in nature. As a supposed “conservative Christian” like Mrs Cumbey, J, Linda, others and myself… you should be able to handle correction while seeking truth.

I know RayB won’t quote a lie I’ve told because he can’t and won’t but how about providing a specific lie you think Mrs Cumbey made?

X

PS - please don’t come back with another goodbye cruel world post. Leave or don’t leave just sad reading a grown man cry about as he exits.

Anonymous said...

* viciously, or, RayBly.

Anonymous said...

"PS - please don’t come back with another goodbye cruel world post. Leave or don’t leave just sad reading a grown man cry about as he exits."

Yes, X,

RayB's sniveling is utterly pathetic, isn't it. Poor me, poor me, pour me another.

@De-Ray-nged-B,

Lay off the hooch, you sound as drunk as a skunk fallen into a barrel of tequila.

Reply

Anonymous said...

That’s selective memory RayB. Rich’s response to the doxxer was stronger than “I don’t think that’s RayB.”

Anonymous said...

Back when Paul was doxxed I emailed Constance to let her know. I was shocked at her response. I don't remember the exact words but the basic idea was that since she has put her personal info out there it's OK if someone else's personal info becomes known. I was confused because she allows anonymous comments, and I thought it was for the protection of the commenters.

Because of this I didn't comment about the recent doxxing of RayB. I thought, what would be the point?

Anonymous said...

To be fair to Christine, paul had doxed her address here first.

Anonymous said...

I guess Constance wanted to remain mature and impartial, which is why she didn’t get involved.

Anonymous said...

"I don't know who or what to think X is anymore. He does seem to me like he is very forgiving of me "
J, You didn't treat him anything like he treated you and a host of others who are treated much worse by him.

The thing about forgiveness is, it isn't partial so how can he be forgiving toward you and so exceedingly nasty to others?

A forgiving spirit doesn't cherry pick like that.

He is pure smarm. He thinks he can mold you and teach you and it is creepy because he is emotionally abusive..and fake. He needs to tend to his own issues as he was cornered above and address his behavior issues here at this blog.
He is a known manipulator. It's a "need" in him to groom people. He can't just disagree he has to badger people if they don't comply to his way. Yep, that's Creepy!
He and then his weirdo "fan" in their truly dumb dialogue made me laugh out loud since they are expert "mind readers" ha!

Anonymous said...

The problem with most people in general, Christian or non Christian, is that they have a tendency to exalt individuals to a point it becomes idolatry. You see it in the media, sports, politics, and yes, the Church.

This blog has become The Cumbey Cult. The sad thing is, Constance is an ultra left wing humanist, with very liberal un-christian beliefs. If we were not living in a liberal Babylonian time, Constance would be disfellowshipped by real Christians. And rightfully so.

The reason why the deep hatred here for RayB, is that he turns up the thermostat to 98.6 degrees, when the real haters here want it set at a comfortable 68 degrees. These hateful birds feathers are ruffled, and their talons come out.

The blog is a "cesspool" of liberal phony 'believers' who want a more flexible 'jesus'. It won't likely change, and that is a sign of the times. Even though J doesn't 'think' we are in the end times. Christine says we have THOUSAND YEARS to go!!!! The blog is infested with the mentally, and spiritually ill.

Anonymous said...

J said: “I don't know who or what to think X is anymore. He does seem to me like he is very forgiving of me even though I have made fun of him. I would think he would hate me.”

I don’t recall you making fun of me. U just seemed done giving me the benefit of the doubt.

I don’t hate anyone. Always hopeful.

Wonder how far back u went detangling white nationalism and if anything u read mentioned JBS (inducing an eye roll and thoughts of good ole x).

Maybe not … just trying to be light-hearted.

Changing your convictions is Godly.

X



paul said...

I've never doxed anyone in my life.

paul said...

I've never even tried to look up anyones address or personal info.
I don't even want to know that.

Anonymous said...

NOTES ON THE NEUTERING OF THE AMERICAN CHURCH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zswo6YRUd4M

Anonymous said...

Question...

Why would Constance NEED to lower herself to post as X? She has never been intimidated or afraid of anyone here. After all, this is HER blog.

Also, I don't see any similarity in 'style' of writing between Constance and X.

Constance exhibits the virtue of humility when she posts.

I don't see any humility coming from X.

Anonymous said...

Constance is also NOT a 'stalker.'

X literally 'stalks' those who disagree with him.

Anonymous said...

ANONYMOUS 9:45 AM & 9:47 AM

"Why would Constance NEED to lower herself to post as X? She has never been intimidated or afraid of anyone here. After all, this is HER blog. Also, I don't see any similarity in 'style' of writing between Constance and X. Constance exhibits the virtue of humility when she posts."

Amen to that! RayB is the stalker and the accuser of the brethren. He has absolutely no respect for anyone who disagrees with him, most especially Constance. His big ego expects Constance to respond to his every demand and to defend poor little RayB when someone calls him out for who he really is.

Constance agreed with another comment that "this blog has become a cesspool of right wing extremists." She didn't name names, but RayB is offended. Says a lot about RayB. Less of RayB around here sure would help to drain the swamp.

Linda

Anonymous said...

Given the amount of abuse X has had to endure by RayB and his cohorts (RayB posting Q-aonymously?) over the past year or two, X has been incredibly steadfast in his Christian ethics and has remained immensely humble, except where he realized rebukes and corrections of RayB's lies and deceit were necessary - even then, he has done so as graciously as possible, seldomly slipping in his mission to spread the Truth as found in the True Gospel.

RayB's call, however, has remained, 'give us Barabbas', i.e., MAGA Donald Trump, instead of Christ - that is why all the hatred, narcissistic pride, deceit and mockery characteristic of Trump - and none of Jesus Christ - has been pervasive throughout the posts made by RayB and his Q-Anon cohorts here.

Anonymous said...

Linda wrote:

"Less of RayB around here sure would help to drain the swamp."

Bingo!

Anonymous said...

A verse that sums up RayB, which I hope he reads and its worthy rebuke convicts him, so cries out to God in repentance and sorrow for all the damage RayB has done here amd elsewhere.

John 8:44 KJV
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Anonymous said...


"Given the amount of abuse X has had to endure"



He opens his mouth and ugly streams out. That's on him. So he catches it for pushing on the door that says pull because he won't learn his lesson.


LOL

Rayb needs to cool it on Constance, and actually apologize for disrespect to her. J is right about that. Whoever told him he's right but not to let it go to his head was spot on.
Rayb, agree or disagree, is still more reasonable than x (poor soul).

Anonymous said...

"Changing your convictions is Godly.

X"

I suggest you try that.

Anonymous said...

12:09

The change I think you are suggesting would require me to set aside all empathy and I’m sorry, I can’t do that.

I’m not joining the Maga Qanon white nationalist tribe

X

Anonymous said...


"I’m not joining the Maga Qanon white nationalist tribe"

12:09 PM here
Did I request or require that?
NOPE.
But you use that statement to drive your bias and animus toward those you do not even know.
I suggest you learn civility as a conviction and may the Lord convict you to lose the ungodly pride that makes you so tone deaf to slander and smear, and actually allow you to have the empathy and Christian brotherhood you brag about yourself.

Try that.

It would please the Lord.

Anonymous said...

12:45 PM,

You are a child of Satan and far from the love of God.

When you stand be for Jesus Christ, the True Lord and Savior (not your vile idol, Trump), you will have to give an account of YOUR behavior. UNLESS YOU CHANGE, He will say, "depart from me, you worker of iniquity, to the fire prepared for the Devil and his demons, I never knew you.'

Anonymous said...

* before

Anonymous said...

12:45

You can’t help falling into every trap I set for you.

It’s just comical at this point.

Humbly yours, x

Anonymous said...

Yes, X,

These MAGA racist types, who roam this blog like the Devil roams the Earth, seeking whomsoever he can devour, are NOT the smartest.

ROFL

Anonymous said...

No trap. Just great opportunity to let your own pride ensnare you.

Using your own words against you, as I tell you the truth about your ugly self here..what you refuse to see that is well known to cyberspace, and I enjoy sharing with you.
Yes, it is comical, because you clown yourself, dear "teacher" that you don't learn your own lessons.

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