Saturday, June 12, 2010

Obama Administration reportedly backing anti-Israel UN Resolution


Nothing appears to be slowing on the anti-Israeli front.  Fulfilledprophecy.com had this link and it also deserves full exposure here.   Looks like a long, hot summer.

Stay tuned!

CONSTANCE

126 comments:

Constance Cumbey said...

Norway labor organization reportedly working to force blockade of any Israeli ships docking in Norway for next 2 weeks, June 15th till end of month. This source points out ominous parallels to pre World War II events.

http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2010/06/12/norway-labour-union-to-force-blockade-on-israeli-ships/

or

TINYURL
http://tinyurl.com/22l7cz6

Norway is not part of the European Union, but is closely related. The EU - Israeli Treaty of Association initially signed November 20, 1995 covers rights to EUROPEAN UNION ports and their access as well as religious and cultural cooperation.

Constance Cumbey said...

Important new article today over at Bjorn Freiberg's blogspot on Javier Solana being accepted into Trilateral Commission as member of that limited size body and the interlocking memberships with the Peres Center for Peace.

http://www.freiberg.blogspot.com//

Constance

Anonymous said...

Not so much “fulfilled” prophecy, but “fulfilling” prophecy:

While the political and moral warning signs are certainly evident in today’s headlines, several environmental developments seem to be precursors that could actually fulfill the most dire prophetic words written in Revelation.

One such factor, Colony Collapse Disorder, (CCD), is continuing to impact honey bee populations worldwide. If this mysterious decline in the bee population continues, and it is indeed linked to electro pollution, as studies now suggest, widespread famine is inevitable, and likely just around the corner…

http://agbi.uni-landau.de/material_download/preprint_IAAS_2007.pdf

Electromagnetic radiation is being generated by human sources on a massive scale, reaching atmospheric saturation levels unprecedented in human history. Bees are not the only species affected by this electro pollution. New studies are showing that electromagnetic radiation is linked to increasing frequency and severity of human diseases such as cancer, and diabetes…

http://www.naturalnews.com/028967_electropollution_diabetes.html

Fact: We need a healthy bee population in order to avert a complete collapse of the world’s food system.

Question: How many of us would be willing to abandon our cell phones and all related radiation producing technologies to protect the bees, or even to reduce the risk of cancer?

Answer: Damn few.

I recently cast doubt on the oil spill in the gulf being a fulfillment of Rev. 8:8. We’ll, just for the sake of argument, let’s say the spill grows, or is still spewing at the same rate by this time next year. Perhaps the best “science” will force Obama to relent and authorize the use of a nuclear device in an attempt to seal the gusher. Let’s say that method actually backfires, and rips an even larger hole making today’s leak pale by comparison. The impact could be globally devastating. Put that scenario together with the bee collapse, and we have all the ingredients to fulfill prophecy.

The phrase “we have met the enemy, and he is us” takes on added significance when it comes to fulfilling prophecy. Our demise is of our own doing. It is not because of some evil “THEM”.

omots

Anonymous said...

Dear omots @ 11:13 AM:

Your post makes a lot of sense!!!

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Rich Peterson - Medford said...

Not long ago was saw talk radio host Michael Savage declared a terrorist for his political criticism and now blog spaces are being attacked. I urge everyone to take a look at this recent attack. Things are getting very ugly.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/paypal-cuts-off-atlas-truth-is-the-new-hate-speech.html

Slumdog said...

Thanks Rich, this is a very evil move, but we understand that none will be able to buy or sell without "The Mark." That's coming.
I'm sending a check to:
Pamela Geller, PO Box 121, 1040 1st Avenue, NY NY 10022.

Anonymous said...

a lot of useful informations here!
great blog.

Rich Peterson - Medford said...

I'm often asked why the media doesn't cover the Alliance of Civilizations and especially why Fox News ignores it.

Noteworthy is that the Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding is a driving force behind the Alliance of Civilizations and also part owner in Fox News, one can see why the the media blackout.

http://www.prwatch.org/node/8906

Susanna said...

Apparently Susan Rice, the United States' ambassador to the United Nations, thinks that the UN can conduct a "credible and impartial" investigation of Israel's raid on a Turkish ship trying to run the Israeli blockade of Gaza.

Bwaaahahahahaha!!!

Rice Supports International Probe of Israel Flotilla Incident

Published June 13, 2010
| FOXNews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/politics
/2010/06/13/rice-calls
-international-probe-israel
-flotilla-incident/
___________________________

According to Rice, Turkey was one of the countries which, along with Brazil, recently "went out on a diplomatic limb" by voting against the latest United Nations sanctions resolution against Iran.

You know. The country that wants to "wipe Israel off the map."

So cry me a river already!

Meanwhile, Rice has also gone on record as saying that the United States is in agreement with Afghani President Karzai's attempts to "reach out and touch someone".....namely the "Taliban members who are ready to renounce violence and rejoin society!!!!!"

Here's to a "kinder gentler Taliban?"

http://tinyurl.com/33926ev

Looks like the Russians approve.

Their covert NATO "no confidence vote" should come as no surprise since NATO is still reportedly one of Russia's "grunty list" along with the U.S. and China.

Russia moves to delist five former Taliban officials

http://turtlebay.foreignpolicy.com
/category/topic/united_nations
?page=8

Sigh!

Anonymous said...

The Examiner 2010-06-08

A UFO that was “a perfect spiral of light” according to eyewitnesses over Eastern Australia at 5:50 AM on June 5, 2010 has given rise to the same speculation as the December 9, 2009 spiral seen over Oslo, Norway the night before U.S. President Barack Obama’s Nobel Prize speech. As with the December 9, 2009 Norway spiral, conventional scientists proposed a conventional explanation...

http://article.wn.com/view/2010/06/08/Did_a_Cape_Canaveral_rocket_HAARP_or_ET_UFOs_cause_the_June_/

http://tinyurl.com/368pfbw

Aussie Jen said...

Anom 11:39

Logical explanations take all the fun out of UFO's. After the Falcon 9 rocket launched successfully, later, over on the other side of the world, people in Australia saw a spiraling object in their early morning skies, about 6 am local time. Geoffrey Wyatt, from the Sydney Observatory, said it appeared to have been the Falcon 9 rocket, which launched about an hour earlier.

http://www.universetoday.com/2010/06/05/spirialing-ufo-over-australia-was-likely-falcon-9-booster/

Aussie Jen said...

This news has got to get ppl's backs up and how will BHO get out of this one?

Oh!! why not change the constitution some what, to fit into the elite's agenda maybe that will work!!!


BORN IN THE USA?

Election official: I'd testify Obama not born in Hawaii
Clerk willing to swear in court about no hospital birth record

The former Honolulu elections clerk who says President Obama was "definitely" not born in Hawaii and has no birth certificate from any hospital in the Aloha State says he's willing to testify in court to those facts.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165981

JD said...

As President of the United States, what do you do if you can not get included in your health care legislation every thing you want? Such as a council which will mandate what the government at the Federal level deems healthy. A council that will consolidate all other national programs, and monitor and mandate all other programs outside of the government. A council that will make service to it compulsory of private entities, without compensation. A council that will mandate that it's finding be implemented in every workplace. A council that will have full time representatives from the Department of Homeland Security. If you guessed by Executive Order, you would be correct. If you guessed that President Obama has done just that, give yourself a gold star.

http://tinyurl.com/24x8mfh

Susanna said...

From the previous thread....to Anonymous 6:33 A.M. and Rmc 3:46 P.M.:

I have posted replies to you both on the previous thread.

Susanna said...

JD,

The Executive Order is just one more way in which Obama hopes to bypass the democratic process by usurping the powers of the legislative branch of our government.

Unfortunately, many members of the legislative branch of our government who are only concerned with their own personal gain and not for the benefit of those whom they govern, are only too happy to abdicate the legislative authority delegated to them by the American people vis a vis their vote, in hopes that when election time comes rolling around, they won't be held accountable for all of the un-American rules and regulations imposed upon the people by executive fiat, judicial fiat, "czarist fiat" or any other "fiat" that is cumulatively displacing a government that was supposed to be "of the people, by the people and for the people."

Maybe this seems petty, but since it is mentioned in the Executive Order, I have one question, when all is said and done.

Does this mean that Obama will HAVE to quit smoking now???

Or is Obama's Executive Order going to translate into "quitting for thee but not for me."

Inquiring minds want to know!!!

Anonymous said...

Richard Attias calling for 'global action' on CNN earlier today...

The first annual New York Forum, launched by Davos World Economic Forum founder Richard Attias, will be held on June 22-23.

Attias said at a New York Foreign Press Center Wednesday that the upcoming event will bring together hundreds of international business leaders, entrepreneurs, sovereign fund managers, regulatory officials and academics for "a series of spirited discussions, debates and dialogues, with a mission that is both bold and urgent: to reinvent business models, to stimulate job creation and restore faith in the international economy."

The Forum is "a call for action" by the business community to reinvigorate the global economy and to find new confidence and credibility," he said.

To date, CEO of Citigroup Vikram Pandit, 2006 Nobel Prize in Economics Edmund Phelps, Chairman and Publisher of The New York Times Arthur Sulzberger Jr. and many others of high profile have agreed to participate.

For more...

http://english.people.com.cn/
90001/90778/90858/90864/7010320
.html#

NOTE: The ex-wife of French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Cecilia, married Richard Attias, Executive Chairman of The Experience, an events management company, on March 23, 2008, in New York's Rockefeller Center.

Anonymous said...

Please indulge me in bringing up something not connected with New Age but has concerned me for years. This is one of many stories showing that cursive writing (handwriting) is being dropped in schools around the country.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32925695/ns/us_news-education/

Why does that bother me? Because people don't sit with a keyboard in front of them whenever they need to communicate. Printing definitely slows down the brain's processing of ideas. We have enough problems because students haven't been taught how to question and analyze information. (It isn't enough to gather available information.) How much more can the population be dumbed down. I just got a couple of thank you notes printed by some 13 year old students. Supposedly they are extremely bright. Yet the notes looked as if they were printed by fourth graders.

I know this isn't a topic at the level of international intelligence, but it might interest some.

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

Nightmare vision for Europe as EU chief warns 'democracy could disappear' in Greece, Spain and Portugal


'This is 1931, we're heading back to the 1930s, with the Great Depression and we ended up with militarist dictatorship.
‘I'm not saying we're there yet, but it's potentially very serious, not just economically, but politically as well.’



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1286480/EU-leaders-thrash-rescue-package-Spain-faces-bankruptcy.html#ixzz0qrPQEtab

paul said...

Dear Dorothy,
I don't know the answer to your
question, but I do feel it imperative
to point out that your statement;
"How much more can the
population be dumbed down.",
( of all statements ),
was actually a question and
should have had a question
mark at the end instead of
a period.
_You asked for someone to
indulge you.
But your point that printing
by hand slows down the process
is well taken.
I just keep referring people to
your and Constances' friend
CHARLOTTE ISERBYT.

See/Download :
Charlotte Iserbyt
"The Dumbing Down of America"

Consider Mrs. Iserbyts'
credentials.

Anonymous said...

Paul,
...or it could have ended with an exclamation point. The thought left me too depressed to use either punctuation which would have required a shift key. LOL

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

Over at the Townhall columns today there is one on the Emergent Church.
http://townhall.com/columnists/MikeAdams/2010/06/14/who_knows_anything_anyway
http://tinyurl.com/2dvtufc

The writer looks at the movement and shows its weaknesses. Obviously it's a hot topic as of right now there are 302 comments, an unusually high number.

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

Dorothy,

In the NWO it's the paradigm shift key...

Leana said...

If you're interested in dumbing down of American school kids, this is also supposed to be a good book

http://www.amazon.com/Dumbing-Down-Curriculum-Compulsory-Schooling/dp/0865714487/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1276550479&sr=8-1

John Taylor Gatto will be at our homeschool convention this weekend speaking, I hope to be able to find a seat, he always commands a huge audience.

As for handwriting, there are many good sources of information to support the need for cursive- here are a few links I found quickly

http://www.mmpschool.com/why-cursive-first

http://www.howtotutor.com/cursive.htm

Many of these present the ideas of teaching cursive first, but they do cover the legitimate reasons for teaching cursive at all. I personally prefer to teach printing first with letter identification and teach cursive once the students fine motor skills are honed a little more. My kids actually beg for cursive, so waiting also gives you the incentive motivation, imo.

Leana

Anonymous said...

From the Wall Street Journal

June 14, 2010

White House Takes Cues From Liberal Think Tank on Spill

If you want to see where President Barack Obama’s response to the Deepwater Horizon disaster is heading, try following the urgings of the Center for American Progress.

The liberal think tank with close White House ties appears to have more influence on spill policy than the president’s in-house advisers. On May 4, for instance, the CAP’s energy and environment expert, Daniel Weiss, called on the president to name an independent commission to look at the causes of the Deepwater Horizon disaster. On May 22, he did just that.

On May 21, CAP president, John Podesta, privately implored White House officials to name someone to be the public point person for the spill response. A week later, the White House announced that Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen would hold daily briefings on the spill, wherever he would be on any given day.

On May 26, Weiss said the White House needed to demand that BP immediately set up an escrow account with billions of dollars from which claims for Gulf state residents would be paid out.

Monday’s headlines proclaimed the president’s latest get-tough stand: BP needs to set up a billion-dollar escrow account.

What’s next, Mr. Podesta?

Source:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/
2010/06/14/wh-takes-cues-from-
liberal-think-tank-on-spill/?
utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=fe
ed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wsj%2
Fwashwire%2Ffeed+%28WSJ.com%3
A+Washington+Wire%29

Anonymous said...

From Amazon's review of the book Leana recommended:

"Editorial Reviews
From Library Journal
In this tenth-anniversary edition, Gatto updates his theories on how the U.S. educational system cranks out students the way Detroit cranks out Buicks. He contends that students are more programmed to conform to economic and social norms rather than really taught to think.
Copyright 2002 Reed Business Information, Inc.
Product Description
This radical treatise on public education has been a New Society Publishers' bestseller for 10 years! Thirty years of award-winning teaching in New York City's public schools led John Gatto to the sad conclusion that compulsory governmental schooling does little but teach young people to follow orders as cogs in the industrial machine. In celebration of the ten-year anniversary of Dumbing Us Down and to keep this classic current, we are renewing the cover art, adding new material about John and the impact of the book, and a new Foreword."

Pulling ourselves out the programming box we've all been put into is a much harder job than each of us understands. It's a step by step process which is dependent on our own efforts and the help others provide to break the chains.

Help others as you've been helped.

Dorothy

Susanna said...

ANGELA MERKEL'S GOVERNMENT THREATENED WITH CLLAPSE

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world
/2010/jun/14/angela-merkel-germany
-coalition-collapse

JD said...

Anon 5:20

LOL!!!! That is the funniest thing I have read all day. Of course I may be a bit fried, as I have been staring at this computer all day, reading, typing, and just trying to put things down in a understandable form. I need to unplug!

Anonymous said...

You all must read May 2010 Obama National Security Strategy hot from the Whitehouse..........


http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/national_security_strategy.pdf

Anonymous said...

In connection with the Wall Street Journal article mentioned at 5:55 pm, check out the following:

This is the website for the Center for American Progress mentioned in the story.
http://www.americanprogress.org

They use the term progressive liberally. That's the term Glenn Beck uses to document those who have tried to destroy our freedoms.

At the website they bull the following:

"Public Opinion | June 14, 2010
The Public Believes Global Warming Is Happening and Is Ready for Action
Ruy Teixeira reports that not only does a strong majority believe global warming is happening, the public is ready for policymakers to take action on limiting greenhouse gases."
(This after the big expose. What liars ...dm)

The Center is connected with the Democracy Alliance, which is the fundraising arm.
http://www.democracyalliance.org/
http://tinyurl.com/2fk4dfv
It's a Soros operation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/16/AR2006071600882.html
This is one of the websites that gives information on the link between the two groups.

The question of the day is...What is the relationship between Marxists and capitalists. I guess Soros can tell us.

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

Officials deny EU is preparing funding for Spain...

June 14, 2010
EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - EU officials have denied they are hastily working behind the scenes to provide funding to Spain from the eurozone's recently agreed emergency support mechanism.

The statements on Monday (14 June) come despite the fact that several authoritative media outlets in Germany say EU countries are preparing to activate part of a €750 billion bail-out facility for Madrid.

"The commisison has no plans to prepare funding for Spain," commission chief Jose Manuel Barroso said in Luxembourg after meeting Jean-Claude Juncker, Luxembourg's Prime Minister, who also chairs the monthly meetings of eurozone finance ministers.

"There is no plan under discussion to provide financial assistance to any member state today," the commission's economic spokesman Amadeu Altafaj Tardio said at a regular press conference in Brussels. "It seems that some people do not understand that, in particular in one member state, namely Germany."

Spanish officials were also quick to deny they were preparing to tap the emergency funds. "Spain isn't negotiating with any European institution to get financing," said the country's deputy finance minister, Carlos Ocana.

For more...
http://euobserver.com/9/30279

Anonymous said...

Flemish separatists win Belgian election...

A Flemish separatist party in favour of splitting the country into French- and Dutch-speaking parts claimed victory in Belgian elections on Sunday (13 June), making it likely that coalition talks will be even more difficult than usual in the divided state.

The nationalist New Flemish Alliance party (N-VA) won 27 of the 150 seats in the lower chamber, beating the French-speaking Socialist Party (PS) in the south by one seat.

Belgium, home to the EU institutions, is divided into three regions. The richer Dutch-speaking north and the poorer French-speaking south. Brussels, the capital, is the third region. Situated in Flanders, it is officially bilingual.

There is no single national constituency. Instead, political parties stand in the regions and then form a coalition. This has become even more difficult with the advance in separatist sentiment in Flanders, which transfers billions of euros each year to sustain the poorer south.

Tensions between the two language communities have always existed but have been further compounded by a protracted dispute over a voting district in the suburbs of Brussels. The country's top court in 2003 ruled the set-up - which allows French-speakers to vote for Francophone parties even though they are living in Flanders - as unconstitutional.

Flemish parties want the electoral system to be changed but Walloons believe this is just a guise to devolve more powers to the regions, eventually breaking up the state.

Referring to the "tsunami" win by Bart de Wever's N-VA, Francophone daily Le Soir says the victory could undermine the foundations of the Belgian state.

For more...
http://euobserver.com/9/30276

Anonymous said...

Centre-right coalition set to take over in Slovakia...

http://euobserver.com/9/30280

Anonymous said...

Please see Video Lindsey Williams
Exposes BP's Gulf Oil Spill Disaster from Oil CEO Insider---
"They drilled between 25000 & 30000
feet deep in 5000 feet water. They hit something so catastrophic
and unexpected that nothing can
contain it...the oil is not the greatest danger. It's what comes up with the oil that is deadly to humans. (Benzene-Hydrogen sulfide
Methylene chloride)...This will
probably bring on an evacuation
of gulf states....There are also
two other fissures opening....
He said: "They are going to use this as one of the methods of getting their 2010 Timeline done"

Karina

Anonymous said...

Correction:
To my post of 10:29 pm....
last line should read
2012 Timeline.

Karina

Susanna said...

Gov. Bobby Jindal Orders National Guard to Build Barrier Wall Off Louisiana Shore

Louisiana Gov. Takes Matters Into Own Hands, But Will BP Foot the Bill?


By DAVID MUIR
June 14, 2010

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/article/
bp-oil-spill-gov-bobby-jindal
-orders-national/story?id=
10914348
_________________________

Go Bobby!!!!

Constance Cumbey said...

Sarah Leslie will guest host my internet radio program tonight on www.themicroeffect.com.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

If Lindsey Williams (a not so secrertive New Ager) told me it was raining, I would go to the window and look. Ditto for Eustace Mullins. I trust neither gentleman.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Constance, please provide a link or something that supports the idea of Lindsey Williams being a New Ager.

I have heard him speak numerous times and have never heard anything that resembles New Age.

What is this conclusion based on?

Anonymous said...

To Karina @ 10:29 PM:

You are absolutely right about how catastrophic this really is!!!

From an article of 06/12/10:

BP Official Admits to Damage BENEATH THE SEA FLOOR...

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/
2010/06/evidence-points-to-
destruction-beneath.html

Anonymous said...

And now this...

Obama compares Gulf oil spill to 9/11 attacks!!!

(Interesting choice of words, huh?)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor
ldnews/article-1286245/BP-OIL-
SPILL-Fury-Obama-compares-Gulf-
leak-9-11-attacks.html

Anonymous said...

By all accounts, the info Lindsey Williams has shared is legit. The term "Doomsday Scenario" appears ever more likely. Who would have thought that a mere "oil spill" would be the vehicle to bring on the NA paradigm shift? Obama is certainly going to use this to his advantage, play up his green agenda, increase executive power, etc.

Give kudos to Alex Jones for providing a vehicle to get this info to the public. But, perhaps the most significant results of this revealed "truth" will be to create chaos and panic, utterly destroy our economy, bring down the Constitution, and further the creation of and, need for, a police state.

Obama's speech tonight should be interesting. Maybe he will give us a hint of the direction he plans to take this. Keep your ears on.

Anonymous said...

Good news. The website Atlas Shrugs run by Pamela Geller and supported by the hundreds of people who cancelled their Paypal accounts won their battle against Paypal. The news about the battle spread, and the website had 70,000 discreet readers on Sunday, a new record.

Those attempting to shut down funding for the website thought they won, but attention to the website grew instead.

See the details in several threads at
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/

If you did anything to help freedom of speech, thank you.

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

Anon 8:20,

The Washington's Blog you linked to does support Lindsey Williams comments. What I found most alarming are some of the comments below the ariticle....

The most notable is the comment that peace with Iran and all the other middle east oil producers is now a top priority, which makes sacrificing Israel a matter of economic survival.

This oil disaster is truly a development of biblical proportions.

Anonymous said...

By the way, Dorothy, the elimination of cursive writing ability is designed to create added dependence on technology.

No one will be able to communicate without their keyboard and networked electronics, which allows tracking, etc.

Agie95 said...

I received an email today from Freemasonry World Wide (Freemasonrysecretarygeneral@akapost.com. Here is the email:

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Be warn never share this message with anyone not even your spouse or trusted friend.
This is the secret of the ages which bring to you today.This offer is only available to America,Canada and United Kingdom Nationality only.

Yours Faithfully

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FreemasonrySecretaryGeneral@akapost.com
TELEPHONE: +44 (0) 20 7831 9812
FAX :+44 (0) 20 7831 6020

Obviously, I did not heed the warning.

Susanna said...

Agie95

Re:Obviously, I did not heed the warning.

So now the fleas of a thousand camels are going to invade your skivvies drawer!!! Right??? LOL

Anonymous said...

Nightmare vision as EU Chief warns 'democracy could disappear' in Greece, Spain and Portugal...

June 15, 2010

-- EU begin emergency billion-pound bailout of Spain
-- Countries in debt may fall to dictators, EC chief warns
-- 'Apocalyptic' vision as some states run out of money

Democracy could ‘collapse’ in Greece, Spain and Portugal unless urgent action is taken to tackle the debt crisis, the head of the European Commission has warned.

In an extraordinary briefing to trade union chiefs last week, Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso set out an ‘apocalyptic’ vision in which crisis-hit countries in southern Europe could fall victim to military coups or popular uprisings as interest rates soar and public services collapse because their governments run out of money.

The stark warning came as it emerged that EU chiefs have begun work on an emergency bailout package for Spain which is likely to run into hundreds of billions of pounds.

For more...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor
ldnews/article-1286480/EU-chief-
warns-democracy-disappear-Greece-
Spain-Portugal.html#ixzz0qwS3e5Ya

JD said...

Karina and Anon 8:40,

Take this for what it's worth, as it simply my opinion. In order to get the majority of the populace to accept the New Age, one has to make the people disillusioned with the old one. Simple admittance by public leaders would not work as people tend to see through things like this, when the same leader then proposes a different system.

Jones plays into this role of getting a certain level of knowledge out about the wrongs of the current system. He does so as if he were a underground source which lends a certain amount of superiority to his information, as it gives the reader or listener the idea that they are keyed into some hidden knowledge. This is EXACTLY the same way occultists operate.

In order to understand this fully one needs to look at what solutions are proposed to the woes that they are telling people of. Jones for example, has promoted Peter Joseph of Zeitgeist infamy. He distanced himself from Joseph only after his listeners blasted him for supporting a project that thoroughly promotes the New Age/New World system. He also has supported David Icke, Michael Tsarion, and Jordan Maxwell, three more individuals who "expose" the wrongs of the world, only to offer up in it's place the Aquarian belief structure. Add to that Jones' support and use of Webster Tarpley in his films. Tarpley is a former organizer for Lyndon Larouche. Or Jones' appearances as a correspondent for Russia Today.

I don't know much about Williams, so I can't comment on him with a level of certainty. I do know he is supported by Jones, which gives me cause to be speculative as to what side of the fence he may be playing from. I am sure that Constance and a few others can probably answer questions regarding him, with better clarity.

It appears to me as though those at the top realized the flow of information could not be stopped, and hence provisions had to be made. It should be fairly easy to spot these provisions, as they should lend support to one another, building networks, and attempting to silence opposing views. Jones fits this description to a T. As I said before, this is my opinion, the associations referenced though are facts which can be verified simply by searching Infowars or Prison Planet. Take from it what you will, just be cautious.

Anonymous said...

Gov. Bobby Jindal Orders National Guard to Build Barrier Wall Off Louisiana Shore...

Louisiana Gov. Takes Matters Into Own Hands, But Will BP Foot the Bill?

By DAVID MUIR (June 14, 2010)

Eight weeks into the oil spill disaster in the Gulf of the Mexico, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal has told the National Guard that there's no time left to wait for BP, so they're taking matters into their own hands.

In Fort Jackson, La., Jindal has ordered the Guard to start building barrier walls right in the middle of the ocean. The barriers, built nine miles off shore, are intended to keep the oil from reaching the coast by filling the gaps between barrier islands.

For more...
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/article/bp
-oil-spill-gov-bobby-jindal-orders-
national/story?id=10914348

SV said...

Dear JD,
I took a slightly different approach in discerning the intent of Jones. Yet my conclusion was the same as yours.
His "avatar" is Darth Vader. He does gimicky segments in his "shows" all the time "in character".
Who rules Darth Vader?
Dark Forces.
Why would anyone profess his "Christian" faith yet choose a character to be identified with professionally who is ruled by dark forces...aka the occult?
Therefore, any testimony that proceeds from the mouth of one who is ruled by dark forces, is NOT the testimony of the Lord God Almighty.

By His Grace,
-SV

Anonymous said...

JD:

For that matter we ALL need to pray for discernment these days on anything we read . . . then, take the wheat and leave the chaff.

Anonymous said...

Agie95,
Based on the use of the English language in the note you received, I send you this warning. You seem like such a trusting soul.

The Grand Secretary General will soon send you a note saying a member was so impressed with you that they left you seven million dollars in their will. You will only have to send them three thousand dollars in good faith money to receive your inheritance. He will tell you that you can't reach him through the address of the Hall because it is a secretive organization and to just use the email address given. In reality the email probably came from Nigeria.

Although I've received dozens of letters from people with important titles in supposedly high offices of authority offering such services to me, I've never received one from someone supposedly connected with the Freemasons.

No one connected with the Freemasons would ever try to trick you. They are all very responsible individuals who try to help the community, or so I've been told in these books by Bailey.

I hope this information helps you decide what to do.
(LOL)

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

JD,

You seem to be missing the point entirely. The gulf spill, which is acting a lot more like a volcanic eruption than an oil "leak", appears to be building into a catastrophe of biblical proportions. And you shoot the messenger?

Anonymous said...

God strikes down "Touchdown Jesus" idol..... 62 ft. statue is broken, torched...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_lightning_strikes_jesus_statue

SV said...

Dear Dorothy,
LOL! :D

By His Grace,
-SV

Anonymous said...

BP has hired a private security firm to restrict media access to clean up crews “working” along gulf coast beaches…

http://www.wdsu.com/index.html

Perhaps these paid mercenaries, who look like they came straight from an Obama Youth Corps(e) meeting, have been hired to also keep an eye on the clean up crews themselves, or at least keep the media from conducting interviews and finding out that many of these workers are not only completely untrained, but are in fact, ex-cons, drug runners, and other assorted common criminals…

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/04/oil.spill.criminals/index.html?eref=rss_us&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_us+%28RSS%3A+U.S.%29

or

http://tinyurl.com/2warcgy

But, hey, combine this new employment opportunity with the census, and at least the unemployment numbers are improving. Or so we are told.

omots

Anonymous said...

BP caught "staging" the clean up....

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2010/05/29/dnt.la.oil.staged.workers.WWL

Susanna said...

Thus spake Barroso:

Nightmare vision for Europe as EU chief warns 'democracy could disappear' in Greece, Spain and Portugal

By Jason Groves
Last updated at 8:24 AM on 15th June 2010

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/
worldnews/article-1286480/EU-chief
-warns-democracy-disappear-Greece
-Spain-Portugal.html

JD said...

Anon 3:08,

I actually agree that there is more than meets the eye concerning this incident in the Gulf. I actually covered some things about this toward the end of the last thread, including how the situation is much more severe than what is mostly being reported. My post was simply meant as a warning concerning the source and nothing more. This is why I stated, "take from it what you will, just be cautious" as Jones can at times provide reliable information, but he seems to have a underlying motive.

Anonymous said...

In President Obama's speech tonight, he is expected to call for broad energy action...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB
10001424052748704009804575308782107
364538.html?
mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

___________________________________

(As in wake up and smell the oil . . . er, ah CARBON TAX???)

Anonymous said...

JD is absolutely correct. You would be surprised to find out how many organizations are set up to put individuals off the trail of what is going on. It isn't by chance that information about the Humanist movement, the New Age movement, communist front activity was hard to find.

Individuals who get a whiff of what is going on behind the scenes look for what they believe are credible sources for more information.

Just as organizations have been set up to further leftist activity, it is easy to set up organizations that claim to be conservative. Usually these will get major play in the media. Check out the Council for National Policy members.
Start here:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Council_for_National_Policy

Others remind me of the stereotypes of a character who was seen selling "dirty" French postcards in more moral days or are now selling computers off trucks these days.

Usually these groups will offer some solid information mixed with a lot of disinformation. They will also never give the larger picture and will have followers chasing their tails with more juicy details about minor problems. Since very few people want to learn complicated information, these sources are the tabloid versions of what is going on, a World Net Daily.

It takes a bit of following to catch on to how these groups operate, but heck the controllers have decades of learning how to manipulate the public. Most of us have had to start learning how to check things out from the word start and are unaware of how "spin" is used.

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 7:37
As I wrote at 9:45,the Center for American Progress where Obama takes his cues had this on their website:

"Public Opinion | June 14, 2010
The Public Believes Global Warming Is Happening and Is Ready for Action
Ruy Teixeira reports that not only does a strong majority believe global warming is happening, the public is ready for policymakers to take action on limiting greenhouse gases."

Hoax? Hoax? What hoax?

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

Would love to have Omots take on this...

Out of curiosity, I used those cute little yellow push tacks that google earth provides to push pins in various locations. I started with London, went south through the Bay of Fundy down into Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Washington, Atlanta, Mobile, Alabama and ended up right in the Mississippi Delta-ground zero for this oil spill disaster. Finally, I put the last push pin in Mexico City which is 20 miles from the Great pyramid of the Sun and moon in nearby Teotihuacán. Then I used Google earth's ruler tool. Voila! There's practically a straight line starting in London and ending in Mexico City that passes right through America's founding cities and then through Atlanta (CNN headquarters,) etc. etc. etc., and into the Gulf of Mexico.

A while back I read the book of Enoch and how Enoch was called upon to seal up the Nephalim and their evil prodigy in the crevices of the earth until the last days. This Acadian Ley line, as I believe it is called, certainly has a lot of interesting connections, from occultic England through America's great cities right into the Gulf of Mexico before ending down in the Great pyramids of Teotihuacán. Coincidence?

If one puts any stock in the Book of Enoch, are the natives getting restless down there in the earth's crusts? I heard mention that one of the BP people on site at the oil spill remarked in the early days that this was an "Evil well". Could very well prove to be if some of these doom Sayers are proven correct. I can personally say that as a Gulf resident, I am starting to think seriously of an evacuation plan.

Lindsey Williams mentioned in the last Alex Jones segment that these powerful people (Goldman Saks, Tony Hayward, etc. sold BP stock before the catastrophic event, not because they knew the well was unsafe, but because of their powerful occultist connections. This made me think that there is definitely the possibility that this oil spill could be an event of biblical proportions. I don't follow Alex Jones and I do agree with JD on much of what he said. I think Jone's is a kook with an agenda, however, my gut has been telling me for weeks that the pressure behind this well is unstoppable by human means.

Sure are interesting times we live in ...

YG

Anonymous said...

Hi All,
I have never posted here, but I come to find out info all the time. Wow, I would not have known that about Lindsey Williams, but I 100% believe you. Christian Worldview Network has an article or two about Alex Jones and Lyndon LaRouche, so I was wondering why Williams would keep going on A. Jones' show. Anyway, I am here for a different reason, wanted to post this video I just saw. Have any of you heard of this guy their talking about, I can't remember his name while I am typing, but it's a really freaky video, saying Queen Elizabeth is going to step down for this guy that is the Christ who is the lawful heir to the throne, have you ever heard of this guy before?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PT-z4C8h50

Constance Cumbey said...

You can be sure that the "Queen Elizabeth stepping down" for "Brian Leonard Golightly Marshall" is not going to happen. Brian Leonard Golightly Marshall" it appears with the 33,600 hits for him on Google is simply one more prophesied false christ and false messiah that would arise -- of whom we were not to after. I doubt very much that the Queen of England would step down for anybody, but if she did, it would be in favor of her son or grandson

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Years ago, I had a near cat fit listening to Lindsey Williams explain to Marlin Maddoux (whom I promptly called after listening) that atomic bombs were a hoax -- that they could only explode at certain "ley lines" -- a very old and time honored New Age theory. I had credible evidence presented me that he talked about his belief in the "Serpent Seed" theory, i.e. that Jews were descendants of Cain and of "serpent seed." He is close to Eustace Mullins whose occultism and connections to Lucis Trust / Bollingen Foundation are documentable from Mullins' very books, A WRIT FOR MARTYRS.

Lindsey Williams has played a grand and sophisticated game over the years of "Watch the Fundamentalists run" with information, he like Eustace Mullins, has from INSIDE.

I would do more digging on line for you tonight, but it is nearly midnight and I now require more sleep than in the past.

Will post more on him later.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Anonymous 1:03 p.m.

Thank you for the critical information you shared on the EU.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

To all:

Undoubtedly the BP oil crisis is catastrophic and it did not take Lindsey Williams to state the obvious on that -- my distrust of him is based on his associations, his proclaiming of occult theories such as "ley lines", his commercialization of his scare messages which he always claims to hear from INSIDERS but more likely, he is an INSIDER. Further, the way he dumped his wife and remarried (I was told on good authority in 1986) that he was plugged into the non-incorporated Church Movement which did not recognize the power of the state to grant such things as drivers licenses and DIVORCES and then he used his non-incorporated church friends to "MARRY" his wife's successor, WITHOUT BENEFIT of the prior divorce. I have heard that might be called BIGAMY.

If anybody has contrary information I want to have it, but Eustace Mullins used that woman to make a tape, THE BIG LIE TECHNIQUE OF CONSTANCE CUMBEY after I unmasked his obvious New Age promotion in his books MY LIFE IN CHRIST, THIS INCREDIBLE INDIVIDUAL EZRA POUND, and A WRIT FOR MARTYRS.

Constance

JD said...

Constance, Susanna, Dorothy, and Rich

A rough draft of Traceability Pt 3B has been sent to each of you.

Anonymous said...

The Brian Leonard Golightly Marshall "fan blogs" that I checked into seemed to be run of the mill promote your false christ of the day kind of sites. I seriously doubt it's anything more than a false christ in the desert. Christians believe that Jesus will appear gloriously from heaven for the second coming, not a reincarnation into a man in Australia.

Anonymous said...

Lieberman: Pay $1 a day for climate

June 15, 2010

Senate authors of a controversial climate change bill heralded EPA modeling results unveiled Tuesday as proof that their plan would have a limited pinch on Americans’ pocketbooks.

Sens. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) found many reasons to gloat after getting the 74-page study that showed the overall costs from their legislation’s major global warming provisions would cost an average household between $80 to $150 per year.

“There’ll be some people who will want to demagogue that politically, but that’s less than $1 a day,” Lieberman told reporters. “Is the American household willing to pay less than $1 so we don’t have to buy oil from foreign countries, so we can create millions of new jobs, so we can clean up our environment? I think the answer is going to be yes.”

For more...
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.
cfm?uuid=3D3A20C5-18FE-70B2-A8A109B
0C542F57E

Susanna said...

JD, 12:15 a.m.

BRAVO!!!! Excellent work!!!

susanna

Anonymous said...

Hi Constance,
VERY IMPORTANT
Did you hear about "Milex 10" EU Military Exercise 2010 To Be Conducted In Late June? 16th to 25th of June.
http://www.borntowatch.com/
going through some of your links, lead me to Born to watch with this very important news.
I google it and it is just planned. I live in the heart of Europe without being in the EU, do not watch TV but read the headline of the newspaper daily and this was news for me !
God bless you
Frences

Constance Cumbey said...

Can't sleep tonight. Haven't experienced this to this degree since 11-22-1995, the very early morning I first discovered Javier Solana. I am adding
www.borntowatch.com
to my recommended links.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Constance, thanks for answering my question and elaborating on Lindsey Williams. I had not heard of him until a couple of years ago and had no knowledge of some these bizarre ideas. Sounds like he isn't just New Age but a kook to boot!

Anonymous said...

7:41
Dorothy and others. I am still trying to figure it out. What is the "spin" all about? I am assuming that this has something to do with disorienting and confusing the subject so as to create a trick in the mind. I'd like to understand and know how to disearn when trying to gain right info in the midst of error. I have had to deal with people of the occult (family) and would like to know what they have up their sleeve.

Anonymous said...

Regardless of what people think of Alex Jones and Lindsey Williams, this carefully thought out article in OpEdNews written by a scientist (geologist and biologist) is very alarming and seems to back up what Williams is saying.

B.P, Halliburton and Transocean have unleashed Armageddon and now there is no stopping it.

"B.P, Halliburton and Transocean have unleashed Armageddon and now there is no stopping it. Senator Bill Nelson has told us how bad it is.

This is our worst nightmare. The oil industry has killed the Gulf of Mexico.

My worst fears have been realized. If this link is true and the oil is coming through the sea floor, they have either blown out the formation or blown out the cement (which we know they did anyway to get the blowout to occur). I am beginning to realize why they have not wanted toclose the valves on the cap. The more theyclose it, the more oil is going to come up through the sea floor, next to the well casing. I listed 12 points in my attached article. The really big concern here is that their directional wells are now pointless. They are GUARANTEED to fail because you can not pump mud or cement into a blown out well. It just does not set with oil and gas roaring past."

More here:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/B-P-Halliburton-and-Trans-by-Chris-Landau-100611-452.html

or http://tinyurl.com/25lx4zz

Anonymous said...

On the Benjamin Creme's website at Share international he has announced that the spiral light seen across northern Austrailia on June 5 is THE star that will herald the emergence of mayietreia.

JD said...

Constance,

I have resent the rough draft of Traceability 3B.

JD said...

Anon 10:01,

In the last thread I posted a piece that discussed and documented how this event had ruptured the well casing. With a ruptured casing, product will leak through the side of the pipe but it may not come directly up the outside of it. Fluid material will always follow the path of least resistance. For example, if the casing is ruptured 1000 ft sub surface and any where in that distance exists a salt vein, the oil will travel that vein until it breaches the surface. This could be quite a distance from the well head and logically could be happening in multiple directions causing the oil to seep through the sea floor. As it does so it is eroding everything in its path.

BP knows this is happening and I can prove it. You will notice that they have admitted to the use of inclinometers. Inclinometers measure exactly what their name suggests, incline or tilt. They are using them to measure whether the blow out preventer(bop) has tilted. This is because the well casing is what the bop sets on and erosion around the well casing will lead to tilting and eventual failure at the bop. If this happens you will have essentially a open well bore gushing oil at a much larger magnitude than current rate. As time goes on it will magnify in quantity as it erodes the walls of the well bore. The post I put up in the last thread shows that BP has already admitted to a casing failure, but no one is reporting its repercussions.

This entire scenario has been a worst case one from the start. Top Kill would not work because a failure at the casing would mean they could not pump into the well head with enough pressure, and their attempt to do so may actually have caused more damage. Complete failure is not something anyone can afford to have happen, but what to do at this point is beyond me. I see no way that this situation can not get worse beyond divine intervention.

Marko said...

Constance:

Strange....I had trouble falling asleep as well. There was just this sense of overall something not being right. It even affected me physically.

But then again, I'm getting older, and had Tandoori chicken earlier in the evening, so maybe that was it... :^)

Marko said...

Regarding Jones/Williams/other "lunatic fringe" radio hosts:

Here's yet another angle to consider. Dorothy touched on it when she mentioned Communist front groups. I am 100% convinced from my own research and the research of others who are looking into such things that *some* of the voices on the right, whether online, on shortwave, in print, on talk radio, or wherever, are Communist plants put in place to spread disinformation, or to divert attention from the important things, or to divide America from within by exacerbating and provoking mistrust between the people and their government.

I'm not saying that there aren't some REAL problems in our own government (there are, and there always have been), but there are external enemies (Russia, China, etc) who would benefit from having the American people look at their own government as the enemy, instead of them. And believe me, they are our enemies!

Basically, some of those on the right who are being most vocal against the government are suspicious, in my mind, of (wittingly or unwittingly) furthering the goals of Communism, Russia, China, and others who ARE planning on attacking us at some point.

And what better time to attack than when we as a nation are busy with internal chaos that was sparked by the people rising up against their own government because Alex Jones et al have created the conditions for such a revolt by sowing mistrust and dissension among the American people on their programs?

This is just one angle to look at regarding our future, but it is an important one, and one that gets far too little airing. There are bigger enemies than the US government, which have the capability to do greater harm to you and your family and your country.

Susanna said...

Here is a gem.......

European Court overturns Moscow ban on Jehovah’s Witnesses

June 15, 2010

http://www.catholicculture.org/
news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=6645
_____________________________

I wonder if anyone is making book on whether or not Russia will comply with this latest European Court of Human Rights pronunciamento? The same European Court of Human Rights that banned crucifixes in Italian schools.

I think Italy pretty much told the EU Court to go pound sand.

Anonymous said...

With the internet often, not always, being a strong voice of truth, how much longer can it be allowed to be uncontrolled... better use it while we can.

The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive.

Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency.

“The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh.


Dave in CA

Anonymous said...

YG,

So good to hear from you! You have a keen “eye” for making connections and seeing things others haven’t considered. Thank you for sharing your viewpoint. While I do NOT put any stock into so-called “Ley Lines” or related global/universal/earth “power nodes” personally, others obviously do, including those into New Age, high level Freemasonry, and/or the occult.

Certain places, structures, and “facilities” man has constructed do seem to line up quite nicely along geographical lines. Call these, “ley lines” if you want to. For instance, in my research of Wenlock, I found it interesting that Arbor Low, and the Wenlock area, indeed even Britian’s famous Wiltshire area, (well known for it’s infestation of crop circles), line up fairly well with the EU “eye” in Brussels, the EU “eye” in Luxumburg, the EU “eye” in Strassburg, etc. which, (or “witch” if you prefer), all line up quite nicely with the land of Egypt.

Coincidence? Occult meaning? Whatever reason these areas are apparently lined up doesn’t really concern me. Occultists may think there is power in lining up their dominos, but it just makes it all that much easier for God to knock them down.

As far as Williams or Jones being a “trusted source” or not, I would put them in the same category as Bjorn (Farmer). People who comment here habitually cite sources that agree with them or support a particular point. All earthly sources are imperfect. Some are shadier than others. But it is a fact that without “insiders” breaking the silence, we wouldn't have a lot to talk about. And as far as the darkest sources go, even the devil tells the truth once in awhile. Just keep in mind, he has his own agenda.

omots

Anonymous said...

To Constance:

I wouldn't be surprised if EVERYONE is having trouble sleeping these days!!!

Thanks for providing that link.

Anonymous said...

It turns out that BP was a founding member of the 'Cap-and-Trade' Lobby!!!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p
olitics/Once-a-government-pet-BP-
now-a-capitalist-tool-95942659.html

Unknown said...

I also have had difficulty sleeping with all that's going on. Born to Watch certainly doesn't help with the not sleeping part. Well, I guess we're suppose to stay awake. Praise the Lord for caffeine.

Anonymous said...

The BP spill has a direct impact on US relations with Israel.

Lack of support for drilling US sources of oil, indeed the demonizing of the entire fossil fuels industry here at home, provides added incentive to make nice with dictators like Chavez, or the Arabs, Persians, and Russians.

Anonymous said...

Marko wrote,

"There are bigger enemies than the US government, which have the capability to do greater harm to you and your family and your country."

Not when the US government binds itself to the globalist band wagon. If our own government becomes tyrannical, and it certainly appears they are ready to do so, there will be no greater threat to our families or our country.

Anonymous said...

I'm going to simplify what I tried to say even knowing everything is much more complicated. And yes, I know it goes back hundreds or thousands of years.

I'm trying to simplify the picture without individual or organizational names, kind of like an outline that one can set up and fill in with details later.

We start with a group of people who are full of pride in their own beliefs. Giving them their due, they did long term planning and were willing to work hard for their ideals. The long term planning included work at the international level.

They believed in substituting non-monotheistic beliefs for monotheistic ones which would allow them to substitute their morality for that of Judaism and Christianity. They worked to infiltrate the religious establishment from within and attack it from without.

The monotheistic establishments and their followers were and are so sure of themselves and their they didn't bother to act against the interlopers. While the interlopers were working hard, they sat.

Same with governments who may have developed pretty good systems over time.

Both thought they would just absorb their opponents over time. It hasn't happened.

Meanwhile as the time of Hitler showed, believers in the new ideas worked hard while the entrenched sat back.
(continued)

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

Continued

So, the interlopers set up different groups. As they said, they have something for everyone. People identify with smaller groups across the spectrum of ideas, from left to right, from New Age to entrench establishment groups, from conservative to liberal, from conservative to liberal religious groups, etc. groups are set up to contain and move the thinking into New Age ideas. One source listed 3000 New Age groups, primarily on the left. Do you believe that at the other end of the spectrums there are no such groups?

So, what did the interlopers plan for the people who started to catch on to what was happening? That's where the provision for dissidents started. It started in the 1920s. Groups were planned to call out to those who felt threatened by the changes taking place.

Is there a difference between the different audiences of the concerned? Yes. There are the Alex Jones types and the CNP types as well as religious groups such as that of Robertson and Falwell and the Jewish Peace Now groups. Those are what we see on the surface.

If someone sets up an opposition to the interloper New Age groups, it is soon infiltrated or ignored into oblivion. The media demonizes the planned opposition so the average searcher for truth thinks they are affiliating with solid sources. In this way opposition is cut off one way or another.

The opposition groups all have a focus and none tell of the larger picture to their followers.

I once described this like a highway. At one end there is no knowledge of what is going on. At the other end there is full knowledge. All along the way there are fascinating tourist traps, restaurants, scenic views that are meant to keep the searcher from ever getting to the destination.

Behind the scenes large networking continuously takes place, hand shaking hand. Business shaking the hands of government who are shaking the hands of culture changing New Age groups. Anyone trying to report on this finds almost no sources who will carry their information further. For most of us it's like a parallel universe that we never hear about.

Opposition groups that haven't been shut down are almost always provision made for dissidents. What else is there? Beck and Cumbey have no organizations that can be infiltrated or ignored off the front page. The bad part? Where do you go to work with others? Information isn't enough. After 30 years of research, I've found no way of being more than a lone wolf in sharing what I've learned. There is so much deception.

You and I have no entree into the interloper network that operates behind the scenes. It's not the government is bad. It's not the Christian or Jewish community is bad. It's that interloper network that is so hard to identify that is the culprit who spins and twists what we are to believe about the world around us.

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

Hi Omots,

I always have enjoyed your perspective and agree with you on this, as I have in the past.

Very interesting.. the Wenlock and Wiltshire sites connecting through the EU eye of horus locations. Yes, I do think these New Age occultists, Freemasons, pagans, whatever they are... do attempt to line up their dominoes carefully for some reason. Sadly, it seems that America's greatest cities are wedged in the middle of their high altars of Babylon. It is no wonder that America is undergoing such tribulation now, because our government and BOTH parties have sold out to these fiends long ago. The treatment of Israel by this administration may in fact form the preface for the last chapter in US history. Not sure if it's been mentioned here or not, (since I'm not a regular reader), but it does seem that with the latest events regarding Israel, Russia, Turkey and Iran , Ezechiel 37 is getting closer to coming to fruition.

I treat Alex Jones and Bjorn as agent provocateurs (Dorothy's phrase, I believe), but then there's also the fringe loonies like the so called Christian woman (whose name alludes me) who sells orgone blasters on her website and that tent lady (who's name also alludes me) who caused such trouble when I contributed here regularly quite a while back. Discernment is certainly needed now more than ever in this Internet age, and sometimes I think it is best not to read any online stuff at all, lest we all become insomniacs.

Thanks for the feedback.

YG

JD said...

Hopper,

Not sure who the tent lady is you are speaking of, but I am pretty sure the other name you are looking for is Sherry Shriner.

JD said...

Just spotted this on FPs front page.

Javier Solana: Obama's national strategy embraces the international

'TIME and again in our nation's history, Americans have risen to meet – and to shape – moments of transition. This must be one of those moments."
So begins the National Security Strategy of the United States of America, presented before Congress on 27 May. As with the politics pursued in the Obama administration's 16 months of office – dialogue, international commitment, nuclear non-proliferation and disarmament – the document's strength lies in the position that it takes. The security strategy is a clear departure from its predecessor and offers a wider conception of what national security represents for Barack Obama.

In the face of the major challenges of our times, Mr Obama has taken a stand with a comprehensive doctrine that goes beyond the dominant, unilateral paradigm and includes a defence of international law. This is noteworthy, given that none of the great treaties to create an international criminal court and a permanent war-crimes tribunal was signed by the US during George W Bush's presidency.

Mr Obama's approach to security is broader as well, proposing the "three Ds" – defence, diplomacy, and development – as indivisible parts of a whole. The military dimension of intervention abroad loses its privileged role, making way for the prevention of conflict and for peace-keeping and stabilisation missions.

In the fight against terrorism, the strategy abandons the predominantly military viewpoint underlying the war against terror, and embraces a more significant role for the intelligence services. For the first time, precise reference is made to people liable to be a threat to US security. The US is not waging a war against terrorism; it is at "war against a specific network, al-Qaeda, and its affiliates". In this war, information resources are particularly necessary.

more at link

http://tinyurl.com/2gyq8cj

Anonymous said...

So where does Antony C. Sutton stand among informants?

Marko said...

Anonymous 3:35 wrote:

Not when the US government binds itself to the globalist band wagon. If our own government becomes tyrannical, and it certainly appears they are ready to do so, there will be no greater threat to our families or our country.

I'll take tyranny over nuclear missiles any day. Or... I'd take tyranny from my own government over tyranny from Communists.

Actually, to go up in a puff of smoke from a nuke would be a blessing, because I'd then be with my Lord and not have to go through the suffering that an attempted invasion of the US would bring.

It's just that as I see things, the possibility of an attack from Russia/China/etc., as of today, has a higher probability of occurring than the capitulation of our country to the NWO.

I hope I'm wrong. Regardless, the days ahead will be very difficult.

And no matter where the greater threat seems to lie, the biggest threat, and the one to fear most, is the one who can kill both body AND soul:

"I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." -- Luke 12:4-5

Anonymous said...

The other name, the Alaskan tent lady, is Niki Raampana of the Anti-Communitarian League. 'Nuff said.

Anonymous said...

the young grasshopper is very wrong about Niki Raapana, the woman who lives in the yurt in Alaska. There's plenty of confusion and disinformation even at CC's site.

Anonymous said...

As I recall it was Niki Raampana's buddy Bobby Garner who started much of the trouble here. Nikki herself said some negative things on her blog about CC, then later apologized. There was also a lot of antisemitism in some of her articles that Dorothy picked up on. So there's mixed reviews where Raampana is concerned.

Susanna said...

Inside the Ring

By Bill Gertz

7:03 p.m., Wednesday, June 16, 2010


Missile defense deal?

The Obama administration is secretly working with Russia to conclude an agreement that many officials fear will limit U.S. missile defenses, a key objective of Moscow since it opposed plans for a U.S. missile defense interceptor base in Eastern Europe, according to American officials involved in arms control issues.

According to the officials, the administration last month presented a draft agreement on missile defenses to the Russians as part of talks between Ellen Tauscher, undersecretary of state for international security and arms control, and Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Rybakov.

The secret talks and possible agreement have triggered alarm among pro-missile defense advocates who are concerned that the administration, in its effort to "reset" ties with Moscow, will make further concessions constraining current and future missile defenses.....read more...


http://www.washingtontimes.com/
news/2010/jun/16/inside-the-ring
-382424672/

Susanna said...

SPAIN: THE NEW CRISIS IN EUROLAND

Thursday, 17 June 2010

European leaders meet in Brussels today amid growing fears that Spain, Europe's fifth-largest economy, is preparing to ask for a bailout which would dwarf the €110bn (£90bn) rescue plan for Greece.....read more....

Susanna said...

Just in case no one has mentioned it yet, here is a link to Rich Peterson's June 13 article,

Religious Freedom in Context of the Alliance of Civilizations

http://www.pineline.blogspot.com/

In his article, Rich mentions the influence of the National Prayer Breakfast sponsored by the Fellowship Foundation,( a.k.a. "THE FAMILY" ) on this US - AoC partnership, and states that the 2010 breakfast featured Spanish Prime Minister Zapatero as its keynote speaker.

Very good article, Rich!

Susanna said...

Oops! I forgot to post a link the the article I posted at 10:34 A.M. that I saw on Drudge this morning.

SPAIN: THE NEW CRISIS IN EUROLAND

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/
world/europe/spain-the-new-crisis
-in-euroland-2002676.html

Anonymous said...

Bright green comet easy to see this week (best seen in Northern Hemisphere)...

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/
news/2010/06/100615-biggest-comet-
mcnaught-sky-show-science-space/

Anonymous said...

Sun's strange behavior baffles astronomers...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/
37705466/ns/technology_and_science-
space/?gt1=43001

Anonymous said...

Economic Policy Journal (06/16/10):

Bank Run in Spain and Its Destabilizing Ramifications for the Entire EU

Spanish banks are borrowing record amounts from the European Central Bank.

According to FT, Spanish banks borrowed €85.6bn ($105.7bn) from the ECB last month. This was double the amount lent to them before the collapse of Lehman Brothers in September 2008 and 16.5 per cent of net eurozone loans offered by the central bank.

“If the suspicion that funding markets are being closed down to Spanish banks and corporations is correct, then you can reasonably expect the share of ECB liquidity accounted for by the country to have risen further this month,” said Nick Matthews, European economist at RBS.

Bottom line: This is nothing but a sign of a run on Spanish banks. They can’t get funding in the markets and there is a steady withdrawal of funds from the banks. For all practical purposes, the ECB is supporting the Spanish banking system with life support measures. This means that the ECB will have to drain funds from elsewhere in the system to sterilize this rescue operation. Without sterilization the effort becomes very inflationary, with sterilization the effort distorts the entire EU economy. It’s all destabilizing.

The only reasonable alternative is to allow the Spanish banks to go into bankruptcy and restructure.

Anonymous said...

Marko 10:43,

You wrote, "It's just that as I see things, the possibility of an attack from Russia/China/etc., as of today, has a higher probability of occurring than the capitulation of our country to the NWO."

Where have you been? America is far down the road to capitulation to the NWO, while a nuclear exchange was much closer in the 1960's than it is today. Perhaps the only struggle left to determine re the NWO is about roles, including WHO exactly is going to be at the top of the pyramid.

A full scale surprise nuke attack is highly improbable. America's retaliation capability remains second to none. Mutually Assured Destruction is guaranteed. Yet, the scriptures tell us we are in for the mother of all wars, likely nuclear, so no argument that something is going to happen, eventually. Scripture will be fulfilled. America will not be spared.

BUT, the enemies you see "out there" pale by comparison to the enemies here because it is the enemies here that make us a nation ripe for harvest.

The founders of this nation made it clear that the greater threat to the American Republic is moral decay over time, increasing apathy and dependence, and political treason from within. Were they wrong?

Anonymous said...

BP Admits That - If It Tries to Cap the Leak - the Whole Well May Blow


As I previously noted, oil industry expert Rob Cavner said that BP must "keep the well flowing to minimize oil and gas going out into the formation on the side":

video

This has just been confirmed by BP.

Specifically, BP's Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles told CNN last Thursday that BP's data indicates that BP can't cap the leaking oil, or it might cause the well casing to blow out:

video


Suttles denies that there is evidence that the well casing has already blown out beneath the sea floor.

But many experts - including experts working for BP - say that there is damage beneath the sea floor. Indeed, Matt Simmons told Bloomberg today that America's top research vessel - the Thomas Jefferson - found that the well casing is gone, and can no longer even be seen on the sea floor, having been destroyed:

video

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/06/bp-admits-that-if-it-tries-to-cap-leak.html

Anonymous said...

First, China. Next: the Great Firewall of...Australia?

The concept of government-backed web censorship is usually associated with nations where human rights and freedom of speech are routinely curtailed. But if Canberra's plans for a mandatory Internet filter go ahead, Australia may soon become the first Western democracy to join the ranks of Iran, China and a handful of other nations where access to the Internet is restricted by the state.

For more...
http://www.time.com/time/world/arti
cle/0,8599,1995615,00.html

JD said...

Anon 1:59,

I posted this in the last thread, and even attempted to give a basic explanation of EXACTLY what such means in terms that everyone could understand. Thanks you for drawing attention to this again. As in any situation where wells are concerned, be it water or oil, casing failure left unchecked is a death knell to the life of a well. In this case it is a oil well, which are pressurized and thus rely on the casing for containment, hence casing failure means complete inability to contain the wells product. Thanks again for bringing this subject back up!

Anonymous said...

Iceland gets EU green light, but Dutch PM warns of 'hard demands' ahead...

http://euobserver.com/9/30314

Anonymous said...

BP's "official" estimates of the volume of oil spilling out of their broken well...

April 23: 200 barrels per day.

April 24: 1000 barrels per day.

April 28: 5000 barrels per day.

May 27: 12,000-19,000 barrels per day.

June 10: 20,000-40,000 barrels per day.

June 15: 35,000-60,000 barrels per day.


Anybody see a pattern here?

Anonymous said...

Found this comment over at the link on OPEDNews that was posted yesterday by someone. It 's been in the back of my mind for days now but someone actually voiced it:

POPULATION CONTROL THE ELITES DREAM COME TRUE

THINK OF FLORIDA AND THE GULF COAST, THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE RETIRE AND FL GET 5% OF SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY THAT'S 2.4 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, PLUS OLD AGE HOMES, RETIREMENT COMMUNITY'S, AND EXTRA HEALTH CARE FROM THE GOVERNMENT , JUST THINK, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THE ELITES CAN SAVE BY DESTROYING FLORIDA. AS WE SEE ITS GOING TO HAPPEN, I THINK BY NEXT YEAR THE OIL WILL STILL BE COMING UP AND FLORIDA WILL HAVE TO BE EVACUATED. AND MANY OLD PEOPLE WILL NOT MAKE IT UP NORTH, OR DIE FROM TOXINS IN THE AIR IN FLORIDA BEFORE THE MSM RELEASE ANY DATA IN TIME TO SAVE THEM, AS THE QUEEN SAY LET THEM EAT CAKE. I SAY THIS BECAUSE, BP IS BRITISH PETROLEUM ITS A 911 FALSE FLAG ALL OVER AGAIN,WHAT SAY YOU?

http://www.opednews.com/a/113334?show=votes#allcomments

Anonymous said...

The following comment was posted at Opednews, and this woman is voicing my own concerns as well:

POPULATION CONTROL THE ELITES DREAM COME TRUE

THINK OF FLORIDA AND THE GULF COAST, THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE RETIRE AND FL GET 5% OF SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY THAT'S 2.4 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, PLUS OLD AGE HOMES, RETIREMENT COMMUNITY'S, AND EXTRA HEALTH CARE FROM THE GOVERNMENT , JUST THINK, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THE ELITES CAN SAVE BY DESTROYING FLORIDA. AS WE SEE ITS GOING TO HAPPEN, I THINK BY NEXT YEAR THE OIL WILL STILL BE COMING UP AND FLORIDA WILL HAVE TO BE EVACUATED. AND MANY OLD PEOPLE WILL NOT MAKE IT UP NORTH, OR DIE FROM TOXINS IN THE AIR IN FLORIDA BEFORE THE MSM RELEASE ANY DATA IN TIME TO SAVE THEM, AS THE QUEEN SAY LET THEM EAT CAKE. I SAY THIS BECAUSE, BP IS BRITISH PETROLEUM ITS A 911 FALSE FLAG ALL OVER AGAIN,WHAT SAY YOU?

Link here:
http://www.opednews.com/a/113334?show=votes#allcomments

Anonymous said...

Marko,

See the plan, recognize the plan. Accurate outline in the Congressional Record, circa 1963.

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

Constance Cumbey said...

Scott Herrmann, co-owner of the www.borntowatch.com website is my radio guest tonight. I am in the process of putting up a VERY DETAILED article on it, Herb Peters, and my own background on investigating prophetic events and current personalities, notably Javier Solana.

Constance

Anonymous said...

MSNBC WORKS WITH ALEX JONES TO DISCREDIT TEA PARTY MOVEMENT

"Radio host Alex Jones, who believes that 9/11 was a U.S. government plot and “inside job” conspiracy, is featured in Chris Matthews’ Wednesday documentary on MSNBC as a leader of the “New Right” and the Tea Party movement. But Jones has absolutely nothing to do with the conservative or Tea Party movements."

"In the advance promotional advertisements for the program, Jones is shown saying that the U.S. has entered the phase of “deep tyranny.” The promos make Jones appear to be the undisputed leader of the “New Right” and the Tea Party movement..."

"...But Jones is not and never has been a conservative. Jones has much more in common with the left than the right."


http://www.newswithviews.com/Kincaid/cliff426.htm

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous (3:09 PM):

Only time will tell whether this BP drilling rig explosion is a 'false flag' or not.

However, if Florids (and the retirees) was the main target, then why did this event occur right off the coast of Louisiana?

Constance Cumbey said...

For the record, I will confess to personal reservations about the Tea Party Movement which has too many elements of anarchism and libertarianism for me to be completely comfortable with it.

Constance

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous (4:27 PM):

Re: "MSNBC WORKS WITH ALEX JONES TO DISCREDIT TEA PARTY MOVEMENT"
___________________________________

TEA PARTY GROUPS CALL ON SPONSORS TO DROP HARDBALL

http://beforeitsnews.com/news/
80/233
/Tea_Party_Groups_Calls_On_Sponsors
_to_Drop_Hardball.html

Marko said...

Anon 1:49 said:

A full scale surprise nuke attack is highly improbable. America's retaliation capability remains second to none...

The founders of this nation made it clear that the greater threat to the American Republic is moral decay over time, increasing apathy and dependence, and political treason from within. Were they wrong?


About your first statement, you are misinformed. I don't blame you, per se, because the dismantling of our nuclear arsenal is not something that NBC, ABC, etc, talk about all that much. In fact, Obama's stance on our nuclear arsenal has done more to create an atmosphere that invites a nuclear first strike than any president of my lifetime. The dangers are real, and even more now than in the 60s. If you doubt me, please read the following article, and then come back and tell me where the assessment in the article is factually flawed:

http://www.strategiccrisis.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=170:7-december-2009&catid=48:mission-statement&Itemid=18

Or:

http://tinyurl.com/ybl3rnc

The founders were correct, exactly as you have stated. But history shows that for the most part, the thing that comes after moral decay is conquest from without - the barbarians at the gate. And I don't think that "barbarians" is too strong of a word for those who still run things in the Kremlin or in Beijing or in North Korea.

Anonymous said...

Marko,

Well there's your problem....your source is Jeff Nyquist, clearly a pawn of the military industrial complex.

China and Russia are obviously on the rise militarily, you won't get an argument from me on that point. Other threats abound as well, too many to list here. But Nyquist's statement that, "It is possible, within a year, that America will have less than 400 strategic nuclear warheads..." is absurd. While Nyquist appears to be a concerned patriot, by making such unsupportable claims, he is stirring up unwarranted fear, which amounts to lobbying for the benefit of his military/industrial corporate friends.

Yes, I suppose anything is possible, but abandoning our nuclear deterrent to the degree you and Nyquist claim, remains highly improbable since the American public, as well as the military industrial complex, would be adamantly opposed.

The Obama admin has stated we have just over 5,000 nukes on hand. Granted, in the late 1960's, the U.S. may have built and maintained as many as 30,000. Personally, I don't buy anything Obama says, however no one is denying that there hasn't been a reduction in numbers. But has that made us any less secure? Good grief man, how many nukes does it take to make your world "safe"? The advances in yield, targeting, and delivery systems, the stealth factor of drones and submarines, etc. more than make up for the scatter gun overwhelming numerical approach of 50 years ago. And what about other weapons technologies, things that may make nuclear bombs look like cave man stuff?

It is you who are misinformed if you think safety resides in carrying more nuclear sticks than your neighbor, yet you have offered no evidence to support your claim that the United States has less military options, which includes nuclear first strike and retaliatory response capability, than any other nation in the world.

Anonymous said...

To anonymous 6:08:

The reason is because Florida never allowed drilling off its coasts. Obama changed that law recently, however, proving he is in deep with oil , too, just as Bush was. So there are no oil wells off of Florida who has fought long and hard to protect the beauty of its beaches. Sad that the corrupt politicians in Louisiana, in bed with oil for many years, are bringing everyone down with them.

Anonymous said...

This is getting hilarious.

Robot bumps into venting system and BP is forced to remove cap from well:

http://www.aolnews.com/gulf-oil-spill/article/gas-problem-forces-bp-to-remove-containment-cap-from-gulf-oil-spill/19528071

Constance Cumbey said...

I am removing commercialized messages. Please don't post them here.

Constance