Tuesday, August 04, 2009
A former Blackwater employee and an ex-US Marine who has worked as a security operative for the company have made a series of explosive allegations in sworn statements filed on August 3 in federal court in Virginia. The two men claim that the company's owner, Erik Prince, may have murdered or facilitated the murder of individuals who were cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company. The former employee also alleges that Prince "views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe," and that Prince's companies "encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life."
I posted on the last thread, but apparently got lost.
I had a question about something you may have said previously about using computerese to describe spiritual terms. Am I mistaken? Is it in one of your books? I'm trying to find that.
I also described an event my son went to with Leonard Sweet who seemed to make a reference to Maitreya. I am reposting below:
Constance and all,
Last night I got a call from my son, Troy, who had just seized a last minute opportunity to attend a speaking session with Leonard Sweet. Before I go further, let me explain that Troy has read portions of Constance's books (He would have read all of them if I had let them out of my sight! Now he can read them free on line.) Leonard Sweet, speaker, author and “futurist”, is a leading proponent of Emerging Christianity.
He was very well aware of Sweet and his leanings. We discussed Sweet and I gave him a crash course and included Constance's quotes from David Spangler. Warren Smith in his new book notes Sweet's reference to Spangler in his Quantum Spirituality.
He just called me and gave me a rundown of his notes. He said that at one point Sweet referenced "Christ" and said (Troy's account of Sweet) "I personally believe that Christ is in the world today."
Troy said no one in that room batted an eye, but the comment gave him cold chills, understanding fully the veiled reference to Maitreya.
Troy also said that the premise of Sweet's lecture was contrasting a "Gutenberg world" with a "Google world". The mark of delineation being the invention of the cell phone in 1973. (It made me think of Blavatsky’s secrecy pledge, albeit 1975.) He couched many terms in computerese.
Thanks for any info you can give~ Terri
also my thoughts and prayers for you and Barry and my hope that he is recovering...all the best
I thought I remembered that you referred to the NA using computer analogies/terminology in a systems way to describe the things of the spirit.
My problem is that I can't find the reference in any of your books, so thought perhaps you said it in a blog post...??? or in an interview...???
I must be dreaming!! HA! Maybe I'm reading too much of this stuff! LOL!
Thanks for all your work and the many sacrifices you've made at great expense to inform the body of Christ of the dangers that lie ahead.
"Mr. Prince's sister, Betsy DeVos, married into one of the most politically active conservative families in the Midwest. She has served as the chairwoman of the Republican Party of Michigan, and last year, her husband, Richard DeVos Jr., ran unsuccessfully for governor of Michigan as the Republican candidate. Mr. Prince and his family have given hundreds of thousands of dollars to Republican candidates and other conservative and religious causes, records show. One favorite: the prison ministry of Charles Colson, the former Watergate felon turned Christian prison evangelist."
It certainly is strong reason to suspect ties to "The Family".
They also just passed a law that states citizens must evacuate any area deemed a threat by authorities. In coming disasters we are going to be treated like a bunch of cattle, forced to be branded and moved wherever the authorities please!
New Evacuation System
Updated: Tuesday, 04 Aug 2009, 8:28 AM CDT
Published : Tuesday, 04 Aug 2009, 8:28 AM CDT
GALVESTON, Texas - Galveston is relying on a new bar code registration system to help people evacuate if another storm like Hurricane Ike threatens the island.
Sept. 13 is the first anniversary of Ike, which caused billions of dollars in damage to Southeast Texas.
A Galveston County newspaper reported Tuesday that only about 100 people have registered with the city for transportation inland. Nearly 2,000 people required evacuation help during Ike.
Galveston Mayor Lyda Ann Thomas says "those who wait leave the city in a position of not being able to help them because we don't know exactly what their needs are."
Galveston is using a wristband bar code system for tracking evacuees. The bar code is scanned when a person boards a bus and when the individual reaches a shelter.
But if this story, and its details are appear really ugly, is true then I think I have finally been brought around to the position that, if not the former President and Vice President, then at least VERY high ranking leaders in their administration need to go to jail.
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Sure sounsd N E W A G E at least to me!
An ongoing theme is that the New Age religion must be one that can be proven scientifically. There are a large number of organizations, conferences, books, seminars, etc. that are centered around this theme.
Here's an example:
At the ninth annual Goshen College Religion and Science Conference on March 27-29, the speaker will be Noreen Herzfeld, Professor of Theology and Computer Science at St. John's University in Minnesota.
You probably came across a paper from one of these sources on that theme.
Take a look at the list of advertisers at the bottom of the page. The New Age connection is quite clear.
When I was looking at this movement several years ago, it appeared that exploratory work was started in the late 1970s. That's about the time the New Age movement was to surface.
"We will harness the Sun and the winds and soil to fuel our cars and run our factories..."
"We will work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the spectre of a warming planet."
"Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell," Sodini apparently wrote, before adding later, "I was reading the Bible and The Integrity of God beginning yesterday, because soon I will see them."
Remember those who are in charge will never waste an opportunity.
"The man that went into a gym and shot several and then himself said this in his diary,
"Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell," Sodini apparently wrote, before adding later, "I was reading the Bible and The Integrity of God beginning yesterday, because soon I will see them."
I had not read this about this tragedy, but IT IS a major flaw in militant "faith" based theology. You disenfranchise "works" at your own peril. The slope is slippery between the idea that "faith" alone will save you and the idea that "faith" will trump your character and actions while on earth.
Hence Islamic Fundamentalists convinced that they will go to heaven despite horrendous actions on earth.
Feel free to carp on all. It entertains me to hear so much wrong.
I have perused some of the media that we own and can find no reference to the quotation you have posted. CNN, MSNBC, NY TIMES, WAPO, etc. Can you provide a source?
Your humble servant,
Never mind. I located the actual online diary. It is clear from the entry in question that he was mentally ill, "distracted" by the clicking of the keyboard, etc.
"August 3, 2009:
I took off today, Monday, and tomorrow to practice my routine and make sure it is well polished. I need to work out every detail, there is only one shot. Also I need to be completely immersed into something before I can be successful. I haven't had a drink since Friday at about 2:30. Total effort needed. Tomorrow is the big day.
Unfortunately I talked to my neighbor today, who is very positive and upbeat. I need to remain focused and absorbed COMPLETELY. Last time I tried this, in January, I chickened out. Lets see how this new approach works.
Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell. Christ paid for EVERY sin, so how can I or you be judged BY GOD for a sin when the penalty was ALREADY paid. People judge but that does not matter. I was reading the Bible and The Integrity of God beginning yesterday, because soon I will see them.
I will try not to add anymore entries because this computer clicking distracts me.
Also, any of the "Practice Papers" left on my coffee table I used or the notes in my gym bag can be published freely. I will not be embarased, because, well, I will be dead. Some people like to study that stuff. Maybe all this will shed insight on why some people just cannot make things happen in their life, which can potentially benefit others."
The link it EXTREMELY PROFANE AND DISTURBING SO BE WARNED:
This was a very sick man who needed mental health care in some institution where he was locked and unable to hurt anyone, including himself. It is a stretch to think that people will buy that this was based on his "Christian" theology.
Sick people can do sick things.
The following quote, a telling one, may have appeared here before but it is worth reposting as it is revealing of where the Club of Rome is at:
"It would seem that humans need a common motivation, namely a common adversary, to organize and act together in the vacuum; such a motivation must be found to bring the divided nations together to face an outside enemy, either a real one or else one invented for the purpose.
"New enemies therefore have to be identified. New strategies imagined, new weapons devised.
"The common enemy of humanity is man.
"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
"The real enemy then, is humanity itself.
"The old democracies have functioned reasonably well over the last 200 years, but they appear now to be in a phase of complacent stagnation with little evidence of real leadership and innovation
"Democracy is not a panacea. It cannot organize everything and it is unaware of its own limits. These facts must be faced squarely. Sacrilegious though this may sound, democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature of many of today’s problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time.”
I am unsure if this is old, perhaps with you being an attorney you may have seen before. Its from ABA website.
Model UN Article | Activities | Links
Model United Nations: Taking on the Role of Citizen of the World
by Hilary Glazer
Take a moment to consider the following questions. What would your answer be if:
A new friend at school asked you where you live?
A competitor at the state championship cross-country track meet asked where you live?
A student at a national conference in Washington, D.C. asked you where you're from?
A fellow attendee at an international convention held in Geneva asked where you're from?
Your answers are likely to change depending on the identity of the person asking, and where the question is being asked. If a school friend asks you where you live, it's not going to tell him much if you answer "Illinois"—you would probably give a more specific answer, like your street address or neighborhood. If you're in Geneva talking to a person from Japan, then your answer will probably be "the United States." Your answers also reflect your own identity, as a citizen of your city, your state, your nation, and the world.
Are You a Citizen of the World?
Most of us spend our lives focusing on a local level—our families, our schools, our neighborhoods, and our cities. It's easy to lose sight of the fact that we are also citizens of the world. Being a citizen of the world means being aware of global issues, and interacting with citizens at a global level. Global awareness is increasingly important in a world in which some issues—from environmental devastation to nation-building—can only be dealt with through concerted global action.
Model United Nations
Model United Nations (Model UN) programs exist all over the United States as well as in other countries, and approximately 60,000 students participate in Model UN programs across the world every year. Model UN programs exist in various forms and formats—some are conducted solely in classes or schools, and many are statewide and/or regional. There is also an international Model U.N. program, involving students from all over the world, which is held in the home city of the real United Nations, Geneva.
Participants in Model U.N. programs learn how the United Nations works through an advanced form of role-playing. In most programs, students assume the roles of ambassadors from various countries that are member states of the United Nations and take part in a simulated General Assembly session; during the simulation, they try to formulate policies to resolve current international problems that the world faces. While doing so, they gain an understanding of international relations, negotiating, strategizing, and the art of diplomacy, as well as familiarity with the rules and procedures of the real U.N.
To become effective Model U.N. delegates, students must research cultural, economic, and political aspects of their assigned country, and become familiar with its history and foreign policy. Learning about the country's needs and goals aids students in resolving conflicts with other countries, and gives them a better understanding of how nations must work together to achieve peace and prosperity.
Taking part in a Model UN program provides students with an enriching experience on many levels. Catherine (who is now in college) participated in a Model U.N. program through her high school in Chicago. She spoke highly of the program, saying, "It gave me a sense of the practical applications of international politics, I learned a lot about public speaking, and, most importantly, it was a great experience to meet other students from all over the country who cared about what was going on in the world."
A Call to the Citizens of the World
"A new quality of planetary imagination is demanded from all of us as the price of human survival. I am not decrying that form of nationalism that prompts the individual citizen to appreciate and praise the achievements and values that his native land has contributed to the well-being and happiness of the whole human race. Nor am I calling for international homogenization, for I rejoice in cultural and national uniqueness. But I am making a plea—a plea based on these ten years of looking at the human condition from my unique vantage point—for a dual allegiance. This implies an open acceptance of belonging—as in fact we all do—to the human race as well as to our local community or nation. I even believe that the mark of the truly educated and imaginative person facing the twenty-first century is that he feels himself to be a planetary citizen."
Noreen Herzfeld is a mathematician with expertise in the area of Artificial Intelligence who also holds a PhD in theology.
Despite the New-Agey sounding title of one of her books it's not clear that she's actually a new ager. She may simply be exploring scientific questions from a theological perspective, a legitimate line of inquiry for Christians and Jews. There are scientists who study these questions.
Just saying, this woman is probably not the best, and perhaps not even a legitimate (can't say since I haven't read her books), example of the very real, and extremely dangerous, phenomenon you are attempting to highlight.
that may be the way of IRIS or what ever god that it is that you worship. But not the one True God.
I am not going to argue about this. The only thing I will say is that one of us is right and one of us is wrong.
By the time you find out you were wrong it will be to late. May God have Mercy on your soul.
I attacked you without reason. Although it needed to be said, I misunderstood your post the first time I read it and couldn't delete it.
But I will not apologize for what I said at the end in regards to you worshiping Iris instead of the One True God. Just so that you aren't confused The one TRue God is the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.
That U. Thant quote is both nostalgic and timely. How many of us are old enough to remember that far seeing UN-NGO called, “Planetary Citizens for the World We Choose”? How many of us thought they were kidding back then?
This afternoon a quick google search of the term “planetary citizen” turned up:
Sharon Callahan of Mt. Shasta CA USA
FYI Constance, Ms. Callahan is very likely a disciple of the original “planetary citizen” himself. I assume the master’s remains are buried somewhere on the volcano proper, or perhaps he still resides in some temporary flesh and blood format. I don’t know. But I do know that Ms. Callahan’s bio states she has lived in Mt. Shasta for at least twenty four years, so f you’re still curious as to what may have become of “the Donald”, maybe Ms. Callahan could provide some answers.
I’m sure she’s got a telepathic portal available, but if you get a busy signal, try the phone.
Phone: (530) 926-6424
Fax: (530) 926-1245
No offense taken. Although you should know that there is one God/Goddess and that is Isis/Osiris Mother of the World.
All blessings to Isis.
and even beastiality.
So that must be on your agenda, right baaql ?
HERE IS THE LAST WORD FROM THE BIBLE AS PENNED BY THE PROPHET ISAIAH THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO:
"I AM THE LORD. THAT IS MY NAME. MY GLORY I WILL NOT SHARE WITH ANOTHER. NEITHER WILL I GIVE MY PRAISE TO GRAVEN IMAGES [Baal / Osiris / whatever! included]
"It goes without saying that the pagan gods, such as isis and baal and europa and osiris were known to be comfortable with such things as homosexuality, incest
and even beastiality.
So that must be on your agenda, right baaql"
To continually flaunt your absolute ignorance of religion, spirituality, and history is a bad idea.
From the Coming Into the Day (the so called Negative Confessions which a dead man had to make to enter the afterlife, notice the part about not having lain with men) parts of which are believed to date to some 1000 years prior to the beginning of the writing of the Old Testament:
"Hail, Fenti, who comest forth from Khemenu, I have not stolen.
Hail, Am-khaibit, who comest forth from Qernet, I have not slain men and women.
Hail, Neha-her, who comest forth from Rasta, I have not stolen grain.
Hail, Ruruti, who comest forth from heaven, I have not purloined offerings.
Hail, Arfi-em-khet, who comest forth from Suat, I have not stolen the property of God.
Hail, Neba, who comest and goest, I have not uttered lies.
Hail, Set-qesu, who comest forth from Hensu, I have not carried away food.
Hail, Utu-nesert, who comest forth from Het-ka-Ptah, I have not uttered curses.
Hail, Qerrti, who comest forth from Amentet, I have not committed adultery, I have not lain with men.
Hail, Her-f-ha-f, who comest forth from thy cavern, I have made none to weep.
Hail, Basti, who comest forth from Bast, I have not eaten the heart.
Hail, Ta-retiu, who comest forth from the night, I have not attacked any man."
If you had ANY knowledge of ancient middle eastern religion you would know that most of them, including that of Jehovah, and Isis had problems with homosexuality.
Although I must ask, given your interesting fixation on the subject:
Do you swing that way?
As you are no doubt aware, LeVey's "Satanic" bible was written as LeVey's little joke that anyone could invent a religion and get people to pay to be a part of it. As a general rule, he is not only not a good source on the Occult, but simply not a source at all.
As for the name word Baal, you are also no doubt aware that it does not refer to any specific god. It is a Hebrew and/or Canaanite honorific meaning something along the lines of "lord" and is used in various forms in the Old Testament when referring to various and sundry gods, Kings, and great men.
The Prophets of Baal are, properly translated Prophets of The Lord.
Nonetheless for your entertainment:
Oh, please. As I have said before and will say again I became quite disenchanted with Christianity.
And your ancient ancestors were human beings just like you, your wife, kids, mother, and father.
They most certainly were not filled with "the venom of satan". They were seeking answers to the same spiritual questions you are (in the case of the last post, they were doing it 1000 years before Jehovah "breathed" the first of his word, so tell me Greg, how would these people have known any of it???) and in many cases they came up with the same answers Jehovah dictated starting a millennium later.
Further, if you even care, the ancient Hebrews would have been completely familiar with the teachings of Ancient Egyptian religion, many of them studied it while in Egypt and in all probability many worshiped Egyptian Gods in Egyptian Temples (see your Bible for Jehovah's reaction).
The Egyptian religion was quite beautiful which may have been a part of the problem with Jewish captives continuing to worship these Gods for some time after their release. (Again see your Bible for the details)
In any case, I fail to see how sheer ignorance of things talked about in your Bible will help you.
"Planetary Initiatives"...."For the World we Choose"....think about it.
If the New Age had a conscience, it might be reflected in men like Donald Keys.
It is understandable that Keys was attracted to Mt. Shasta, a place of sublime natural beauty, albeit a landscape prone to unpredictable displays of immense power, at once both horribly destructive, and beautifully creative.
Keys was a man in search of perfection. His personal vision of the world held no poverty, no pain, no want. Like many idealists, Keys vision of a planetary collective didn't jive with the world outside his UN office. I believe Keys became convinced he needed to join with others in finding perfection within himself before his great "mission" of "serving" the world could have effect. Such people really believe they are on the road to achieving, acquiring, or recognizing the divine within themselves albeit faithfully ascending towards some conscious “collective" of like minded masters.
Unfortunately, ALL New Agers reject the One True God in search of their own kingdom, one devoid of any "divine" presence save such that fits their own worldview. All "gods" of the New Age, by strict definition, have to fit into the "believers" own mind, their own self image of the divine.
Here's a quote from an article in the online edition of the Mount Shasta Magazine:
“Mount Shasta is one such place imbued with the vision that life is perfectible. Happiness, wisdom, peace and compassion are attainable, not only for the self, but for the larger Self of which humanity is the mirror.”
[Peter Mt. Shasta- Mt. Shasta and the New Shambhala]
Such a plethora of perfected little gods just doesn't leave room for the very Creator of Mount Shasta Himself. As far as most New Agers go, any alternative to the One True God is just fine and dandy. They find no hypocrisy in demanding that everyone else be tolerant of their "alternative deities", no matter how vile, while they themselves reject the One True God.
That, in a nutshell, is what the New Age is all about.
Unfortunately for Keys and all other New Age pagans, the only mystical place that fits their idealist vision of "Shambhala" is a place utterly devoid of the presence of the One True God.
No one should want to go there.
GOP Senator: White House Encroaching on First Amendment
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports:
A Republican senator is calling for the White House to suspend a new project that asks members of the public to flag “fishy” claims about President Obama’s health care plans, arguing that it raises privacy concerns and will serve to chill free speech.
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, is sending a letter to the White House today asking the president to “cease this program immediately” -- or to explain how Americans’ privacy will be protected if e-mails are forwarded to the White House as requested.
“I am not aware of any precedent for a President asking American citizens to report their fellow citizens to the White House for pure political speech that is deemed ‘fishy’ or otherwise inimical to the White House’s political interests,” Cornyn writes
“I can only imagine the level of justifiable outrage had your predecessor asked Americans to forward emails critical of his policies to the White House. I suspect that you would have been leading the charge in condemning such a program -- and I would have been at your side denouncing such heavy-handed government action.”
Yesterday, White House director of new media Macon Phillips wrote a blog posting urging readers to flag questionable claims about health care proposals.
“There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to email@example.com.”
Cornyn specifically asks whether those who quote the president’s past statements -- such as his 2003 statement that he was a “proponent” of single-payer care -- qualifies as “disinformation.” He also asks what actions the White House would take against those engaging in “fishy” speech.
Constance often recommends "archiving". How does one archive web pages? I can cut and paste articles. But the web pages baffle me.
And Joash said unto all that stood against him, Will ye plead for Baal? will ye save him? he that will plead for him, let him be put to death whilst [it is yet] morning: if he [be] a god, let him plead for himself, because [one] hath cast down his altar. Jdg 6:31
And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD [be] God, follow him: but if Baal, [then] follow him. And the people answered him not a word. 1 Ki 18:21
And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there. 1 Ki 18:40
For he served Baal, and worshipped him, and provoked to anger the LORD God of Israel, according to all that his father had done. 1 Ki 22:53
Thus Jehu destroyed Baal out of Israel 2Ki 10:28
And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven. 2 Ki 23:5
Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not; Jer 7:9
will also stretch out mine hand upon Judah, and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and I will cut off the remnant of Baal from this place, Zeph 1:4
But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to [the image of] Baal. Rom 11:4
Hard not to love Vaclav Klaus, isn't it? Thanks for the lead to the interesting story at http://tinyurl.com/m5h4aj
A proposed European Union equality law has been branded an "instrument of oppression" by Britain's Roman Catholic leaders.
By Simon Caldwell
Published: 7:01AM BST 03 Aug 2009
The bishops of England, Wales and Scotland denounced the European Commission's planned Equal Treatment Directive as "wholly unacceptable" because, they said, it would force Christians to act against their consciences.
The directive is aimed at harmonising and enforcing a ban across the 27-member bloc on discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation, age, religious belief and disability outside the scope of employment law.
But the bishops say the directive will simply have the result of sharply curtailing the rights of religious liberty and freedom of expression.
They say they will be powerless to stop witches from hiring out church property, for instance, or from insisting that people at Church events behave in a way consistent with Christian teaching.
Monsignor Andrew Summersgill, the general secretary of the Bishops' Conference of England and Wales, said that the Church "recognises that groups which do not agree with its teaching should be free to organise themselves and to propagate their views as they wish".
"What the Church is seeking from this directive is simply the right to maintain its own teaching and activities with integrity, according to its own ethos," he said in a written submission to a public consultation.
He said that the organisers of a Catholic conference, for instance, would be legally obliged to make double rooms available to gay and unmarried couples as well as for married heterosexuals.
He said: "At this point the EU would effectively be dictating to religious bodies what their faith does or does not require - a wholly unacceptable position."
The definition of harassment in the directive will also mean that any person who decided they were "offended" by an expression of Christianity could bring a case against the Churches.
Various pressure groups are likely to use the provisions of the directive to curtail the expression of views they disagree with by the simple expedient of declaring themselves to be offended.
"Homosexual groups campaigning for same-sex marriage may declare themselves to be offended by the presentation of the Catholic Church's moral teaching on marriage," he said, and "an atheist may be offended by religious pictures in an art gallery, or a Muslim may be offended by any picture representing the human form".
The directive fails to explain how conflicting rights could be reconciled, leading to fears that the EU will subordinate the rights of some groups, especially Christians, to the rights of others.
"If the directive is unable to provide a means of balancing those competing rights there is a risk that practical implementation may effectively turn the directive into an instrument of oppression," said Monsignor Summersgill.
EU directives are overarching laws introducing a minimum standard which all member states must meet.
A directive can only become law if all member states agree to it at a meeting of the council of the EU.
The European Parliament voted in favour of the proposed directive in April but MEPs put forward changes to the text that would reduce protection for churches and faith schools.
They also recommend deleting an assurance that the directive did not apply to national laws on marital status or abortion.
The EU council will now have to consider whether to adopt, amend or reject the directive.
Sweden, which holds the EU presidency, has indicated that it wishes to introduce the directive in November.
Texas Sen. John Cornyn, accusing the White House of compiling an "enemies list," has asked President Barack Obama to stop an effort to collect "fishy" information Americans see about a health care overhaul.
Cornyn, who leads the Republicans' Senate campaign effort, said Wednesday in a letter to Obama that he's concerned that citizen engagement on the issue could be "chilled." He also expressed alarm that the White House could end up collecting electronic information on its critics.
"I can only imagine the level of justifiable outrage had your predecessor asked Americans to forward e-mails critical of his policies to the White House," Cornyn wrote.
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Cornyn was responding to a post on the White House's blog Wednesday in which users are asked to help stop the spread of disinformation about legislation to overhaul health insurance. The post offers an e-mail address, firstname.lastname@example.org, for users to forward anything "on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy."
The White House said the post was merely designed to fight "intentionally misleading" information in the health care debate.
"We want to be sure people have the facts about health insurance reform that will lower costs, protect consumers from insurance regulations that deny them coverage and assure quality and affordable health care for all Americans," said Adam Abrams, a White House spokesman. He said no lists or sources of the information would be compiled.
In his letter, Cornyn asked that the effort cease immediately and that the administration inform Congress what it's doing to ensure that names and electronic information about citizens weighing in on health care are not collected.
Kevin McLaughlin, a spokesman for the senator, said that the office had received no response from the administration.
He said Cornyn had not yet considered whether he would push for legislation to address the matter if necessary.
I sent him the family connections. I haven't sent the Fire Crystal Conference information yet. I also sent the information on Mark Satin's book and Radical Middle website for an overview of New Age politics. He wanted to know about the Barcelona Process. He also knew about the Cub of Budapest.
If someone asked any of you about a "smoking gun" connecting Solana to New Age, how would you answer it? Is there information I've missed? What have you found to be the most convincing piece of information. Best to stick to information published here or elsewhere.
The individual has been posting on a Christian website where the readers are not aware of the details of the NA and seem to be starting from the beginning.
Since you're into Egyptian and not Greek gods and goddesses, and they weren't into homosexuality,
(according to you), then does that mean you only accept the Egyptian incestuous gods?
Do you follow the Ra that inspired almost all the many egyptian pharohs to marry their sisters, to the point of them being sickly and retarded
as the one true God designed things to be ? In fact isn't that the reason why the entire dynasty died out, because incest always leads to disease and mental retardation of varying sorts, as the Bible teaches ?
How's that working for you ?
Do you have children ?
I know you're a dedicated teacher of young people...
(Discusses Ties to Point Loma Nazarene University.)
JAMES DOBSON (Founder of Focus on the Family)
PROFILE: DR. JAMES DOBSON
PROFILE: H.B. London, Jr.
POINT LOMA NAZARENE UNIVERSITY
Notable alumni include Edward J. Blakely, educator and researcher on urban and suburban issues, James Dobson, prominent evangelical psychologist, Greg Laswell, musician and producer, and Mildred Bangs Wynkoop, noted Nazarene theologian. The school has produced four college presidents. Two were presidents of the Eastern Nazarene College: Fred J. Shields and Floyd W. Nease, 1919-1923 and 1924-1930, respectively. One, Orval J. Nease, was president of his alma mater from 1928 to 1933. The fourth, David Alexander, has been president of Northwest Nazarene since 2008. Hoku, singer and daughter of the late Don Ho studied business at PLNU briefly, but left during her first semester.
Notable faculty members include Darrel R. Falk, author of Coming to Peace with Science and director of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute outreach program, and Michael Lodahl, another noted Nazarene theologian. A notable former faculty member is Olive Winchester.
Point Loma also has ties to the LIBERAL CATHOLIC CHURCH vis a vis Charles W. Leadbeater.
LIBERAL CATHOLIC CHURCH
.....The founding bishop of the Liberal Catholic Church was J. I. Wedgwood of the Wedgwood China family, who became a theosophist and was ordained as a priest in the Old Catholic movement on July 22, 1913 by Arnold Harris Mathew (whose membership in the Union of Utrecht was terminated in 1910). Archbishop Mathew was a resigned Roman Catholic priest who had been consecrated by Archbishop Gerardus Gul of Utrecht on April 28, 1908 and appointed as the first Old Catholic bishop in Britain. Thus the Liberal Catholic Church claims to trace its apostolic succession back to Rome through Old Catholicism. In the end Mathew came to cease all ties with the Utrecht Union of Churches to vow allegiance once more to the Roman Catholic Church (this did not happen) and to advise those of his flock who were Theosophists to resign membership of the Theosophical Society Adyar. This advice was not taken seriously by many of the church's members. Wedgwood was consecrated to the episcopate on February 13, 1916 by Bishop Frederick Samuel Willoughby (who had been consecrated by Bishop Matthew), and started the organisation that would later become the Liberal Catholic Church of which Wedgwood became the first Presiding Bishop. Bishop Wedgwood published articles within the Theosophical Society on ceremonial work. These writings interested Charles Webster Leadbeater, an alleged clairvoyant and Anglican priest who was consecrated as a Liberal Catholic bishop in 1916. C. W. Leadbeater became the 2nd Presiding Bishop....read entire article.....
Note: The following is not connected with the Roman Catholic Church although its clergy has been validly albeit illicitly ordained by bishops of one or more schismatic churches.
THE LIBERAL CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH
A living tradition of Christian liberalism and ecumenism
But back to Focus on the Family. It is very heavily funded by the De Vos family.
I love that you are so interested in learning and dialogue! Perhaps I'll have you worshiping Isis yet!
It is certainly true that there was inbreeding among Egyptian Royalty and marriages as close as brother and sister. This however, had nothing to do with Egyptian religious beliefs, but with the eternal imperative among royalty to preserve the purity of the royal genetic line.
One need only consider the enormous number of Christian royal families which inbred themselves to extinction, starting perhaps, with the EXTREMELY Catholic Spanish Habsburgs, not of course to highlight the degree to which Christ encourages royalty to marry and have sexual relations with their close relatives, although this is undoubtedly true, but because it is the subject of an excellent study just completed. To wit:
The Role of Inbreeding in the Extinction of a European Royal Dynasty by Gonzalo Alvarez, Francisco C. Ceballos, and Celsa Quinteiro
You may read the excellent article available in PLos One Volume 4(4); 2009 available here:
or download the PDF here:
Not that I wish to pick on Catholics, since if you wish to research the subject yourself Paul, you will find plenty of Protestants who inbred themselves to death too!
I must say I appreciate the new spirit of intellectual inquiry and collegial exchange of ideas on this blog!
You said: " It is certainly true that there was inbreeding among Egyptian Royalty and marriages as close as brother and sister. This however, had nothing to do with Egyptian religious beliefs, but with the eternal imperative among royalty to preserve the purity of the royal genetic line."
That's a brilliant piece of misdirection, but your initial statement that the "eternal directive" has nothing to do with religion is like a foundation of pure sand under the well rehearsed ammunition that follows.
Your next paragraph finds you out in waters over your head with something about the Lord's teachings to royalty on marriage ?? Where do you find that ? FYI: You know, Jesus comes way way after Moses.
I haven't highlighted or pasted a single one of your
links, and I'm sure I won't be doing so. I wouldn't want to get a virus.
But you're right about some things.
I guess the Illuminati itself would be a good example, having inbred with the inbred as they have.
However I have no intention of dialoguing with you any more, like the academic you pretend to be or otherwise.
the word baal is never translated LORD proper, but lord. This is only when refering to a magistrate or a king. at all other times when refering to a deity it is master. It is sometimes referencing the LORD, for instance Baal Perezim, or master of breakthroughs. But it is never used to refer to Yaweh's covanent names with Israel. the baals required human swacrifice, Yaweh never did. The only human sacrifice He ever permitted was His own, when He went to the cross in our place. Tell me did Isis/ Osiris ever take on flesh and give him/herself a ransom for many. I think not! Jesus is the only God to give Himself up for His creation, no other god has or ever could!
However, I wrote "eternal imperative" not "eternal directive", two completely different ideas. Nice use of misdirection on your part. Change the words of your opponent when you can't refute them.
However, as a member of Skull and Bones, class of 1989, and as I feel sympathetic with the Illuminati, a group much maligned by your kind, I must say you are certainly going to enjoy the New World Order.
Keith Thompson here. I contacted you a few weeks ago about an upcoming film on the New Age movement and I am wondering if you would still be interested in an interview. Please get back to me. Lord bless.
You have one of the more hate filled sites aimed at "Christian" apologetics I have perused in several weeks.
The description of Answering-Islam.org as an "apologetics website aimed at interfaith dialogue between Christians and Muslims" is one of the more amusing bits of nonsense I've run into in a couple of months.
What you meant to write was "apologetics website explaining why everything in Islam is wrong and Muhammad was a fraud"
You people do realize who so many dislike you. Right?
you show yourself for who you really are. You are nothing short of a worshipper of the god of htis world, Satan himself. You will shortly find that things will not turn out the way you think they will. People in high places rarely have any true loyalty, they tend to remove whomever they see as extra weight or an obstacle. You may be one of those who finds themselves in thone of these catagories. You are spirituallya nd intellectually blind and deaf. If you had open eyes and ears you would at the very least approach these subjects with humility. As it is you are overcome with pride and arrogance in thinking that you are somehow superior to or at the very least more,"in the know" than these other people on this blog. You speak as though you have had some personal encounter with knowledge we have not. I assure you if you had encountered true Knowledge, then you would not give yourself to this demon called isis/osiris. May the God to whom I belong, open your eyes that you might see. May He grant that you turn from your empty ways and accept the truth.
I'll search for the email, but the answer would be yes. You could call my office to arrange it.
Here is the Fall Initiation Class of 1989 Skull & Bones. Which one of these might be you??
FALL ’89 INITIATION - was on Wednesday, October 4. Despite a brief interruption by the Daily Collegian,
it was a success. We extend our congratulations and a warm welcome to our new brothers & sisters:
Active: Karrol-Ann Brown Student Council Chair
Donna Carter National Panhellenic Council
Stan Croughter President, Omega Psi Fraternity
Deryk Gilmore Incoming Black Athletes at Penn State
Jennifer Grimm Business Manager, Daily Collegian
Jeff McCarty Director, Lesbian & Gay Student Alliance
Mike McRae co-founder S-Plan program
Brian McKernan Former Dir, Lesbian & Gay Student Alliance
P. .J. Sternberg Coord, Council of Commonwealth Student Gov’ts
Associate: Troy Cromwell MBA Student, former PSU Football player
Honorary: Tom Poole Director, Office of Religious Affairs
I do greatly agree with Manly P. Hall here. Although I admit I do not live up to it.
Neither do most of the people here.
Since you seem reasonable, here is a video where I can be clearly made out at my home church. This was years ago before Christian churches starting destroying music and singing "Jesus is my boyfriend" songs accompanied by rock bands.
....Prince serves as vice president of the Edgar and Elsa Prince Foundation. Salon reports that "between July 2003 and July 2006, the foundation gave at least $670, 000 to the Family Research Council and $531, 000 to Focus on the Family" headed by James Dobson.............
Connections to the Religious Right
Prince has supported the religious right through his Freiheit Foundation and via his leadership position at his parents' Edgar & Elsa Prince Foundation. His family has been a significant force in funding the religious right for years in both Michigan and at the national level.
Reverend Robert Sirico, director of the Acton Institute, presided over the funeral of Erik Prince's first wife (Scahill, p. 19). Sirico was also cited in the Grand Rapids Press' coverage of Prince's Blackwater....
The Freiheit Foundation--operated by Erik Prince of Holland's Prince family--has funded some religious right organizations including those listed below as well as Michigan Family Forum, Chuck Colson’s groups, the University of Stubenville, and Legionnaires of Christ (Bellant, The Religious Right in Michigan Politics)...
PRISON FELLOWSHIP MINISTRIES
As we have already learned, Chuck Colson has ties with the Fellowship Foundation (a.k.a. the Family) and with Paul N. Temople who is said to have frequently made his Spanish villa available to Colson and his wife.
I certainly cannot argue much with the youtube by Manly Hall. I too am much concerned about all of our inablities to truly love one another. My first thought was to direct you to 1Cor. 13 which of course you know. Obviously the Philosophical Research Society http://www.prs.org/bible.htm has written extensively about an esoteric and gnostic interpretation of the Bible. Instead I think I'll post a discussion about "love" from my favorite philosopher/saint Oswald Chambers:
I point you to his philosophy of perfection published in pdf format at: http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic_pdf.php?topic_id=4882&forum=34
Of particular note to you might be interested in editor comment that John Wesley in studying the mystics said - John Wesley complained to William Law* that when he was an earnest inquirer he had been directed to the mystic writers, and so had missed the basic truth of salvation by faith in Jesus Christ. We all need to know the initial experience of Christ as the Propitiation for our sins, and as the One who has brought to a world of sinners the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness. Afterwards we may find, as Wesley did, much light in such writers as the above upon how God works in us to will and to do of His good pleasure, and how we can work out our own salvation (Philippians 2:12-13).
Chambers, O. 1996, c1941. If thou wilt be perfect : Talks on spiritual philosophy. Marshall, Morgan & Scott: London
Finally Chambers reference to love was:
The Philosophy of Perfection
But when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away. 1 Corinthians 13:10 (rv)
“That which is perfect” is a Being, who hath comprehended and included all things in Himself and His own Substance, and without whom, and besides whom, there is no true Substance, and in whom all things have their Substance.
That Which Is Perfect
The Bible reveals that “that which is perfect” is a Being. God is the only Perfect Being; no human being is perfect apart from God. We make the blunder of applying to human beings terms which the Bible applies to God only. Our Lord in replying to the rich young ruler††, who used the term “Good Master,”†† said, “None is good save One, even God”†† (rv). There is only one Being to whom the term “good” can be applied, and that is the Perfect Being, the term cannot be applied to good men. In the Sermon on the Mount our Lord places God as the model for Christian character; He does not say, “Be good as a man is good,” but—“Ye therefore shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect” (rv). We are to be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect, not by struggle and effort, but by the impartation of that which is Perfect. We are accustomed to the use of the word “perfect” in connection with our relationship to God (e.g. Philippians 3:12-15), but here the word is used in a bigger sense, viz. perfect as God is perfect.
“Love” is another term we are apt to apply wrongly. We emphasise perfect love towards our fellow-men; the Bible emphasises perfect love to God. Love is an indefinable word, and in the Bible it is always used as directly characteristic of God—“God is love.” In Romans 5:5, Paul says that “the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts,” not the power to love God, but the love of God.
Or take Truth. The Truth is our Lord Himself, consequently any part of the truth may be a lie unless it leads to a relation to the Truth. Salvation, sanctification, the Second Coming are all parts of the Truth, but none is the Truth; and they are only parts of the Truth as they are absorbed by the Truth, our Lord Himself. We are not told to expound the way of salvation, or to teach sanctification, but to lift up Jesus, i.e. to proclaim the truth.
Chambers, O. 1996, c1941. If thou wilt be perfect : Talks on spiritual philosophy. Marshall, Morgan & Scott: London
I agree with your issue - all you need is love but what do we do with our "imperfection"
Baal has just told me a great deal of where he is coming from. Our retirement plan is distinctly greater than any "wealth" he claims here.
Just want all to make sure they understand that Colson does not just have "ties" to the Family - Doug Coe was the one who met him when he returned from prison and set him up in the beginning of Prison Fellowhip. Read Colsons book - Life Sentance. Colson/The Fellowship is Prison Fellowship. Without the Family it's hard to see how Colson would have succeeded to the degree he has. Of course we might also argue that God is in it and thats why - clearly good work is done with prisoners and Christ but .... its the "under the radar" that bothers me.
Have I made you nervous yet about my oneness and perfection talk? I don't mean to be controversial (well not exactly) however I really believe its key to why people like Baal are so disgusted with Christians and why organizations like the family are perfectly comfortable with partnering with evil (like Christ's tempation) as they seek to accomplish good.
One last thing - thought you might enjoy what Bobby has to say about your diety - don't quite know what it means - but I do know he was a seeker too. Doesn't sound like he came out quite satisfied.
Music by Bob Dylan, Words by Bob Dylan and Jacques Levy
1975,1985 Ram's Horn Music
I married Isis on the fifth day of May,
But I could not hold on to her very long.
So I cut off my hair and I rode straight away
For the wild unknown country where I could not go wrong.
I came to a high place of darkness and light.
The dividing line ran through the center of town.
I hitched up my pony to a post on the right,
Went in to a laundry to wash my clothes down.
A man in the corner approached me for a match.
I knew right away he was not ordinary.
He said, "Are you lookin' for somethin' easy to catch?"
I said, "I got no money." He said, "That ain't necessary."
We set out that night for the cold in the North.
I gave him my blanket, he gave me his word.
I said, "Where are we goin'?" He said we'd be back by the fourth.
I said, "That's the best news that I've ever heard."
I was thinkin' about turquoise, I was thinkin' about gold,
I was thinkin' about diamonds and the world's biggest necklace.
As we rode through the canyons, through the devilish cold,
I was thinkin' about Isis, how she thought I was so reckless.
How she told me that one day we would meet up again,
And things would be different the next time we wed,
If I only could hang on and just be her friend.
I still can't remember all the best things she said.
We came to the pyramids all embedded in ice.
He said, "There's a body I'm tryin' to find.
If I carry it out it'll bring a good price."
'Twas then that I knew what he had on his mind.
The wind it was howlin' and the snow was outrageous.
We chopped through the night and we chopped through the dawn.
When he died I was hopin' that it wasn't contagious,
But I made up my mind that I had to go on.
I broke into the tomb, but the casket was empty.
There was no jewels, no nothin', I felt I'd been had.
When I saw that my partner was just bein' friendly,
When I took up his offer I must-a been mad.
I picked up his body and I dragged him inside,
Threw him down in the hole and I put back the cover.
I said a quick prayer and I felt satisfied.
Then I rode back to find Isis just to tell her I love her.
She was there in the meadow where the creek used to rise.
Blinded by sleep and in need of a bed,
I came in from the East with the sun in my eyes.
I cursed her one time then I rode on ahead.
She said, "Where ya been?" I said, "No place special."
She said, "You look different." I said, "Well, not quite."
She said, "You been gone." I said, "That's only natural."
She said, "You gonna stay?" I said, "Yeah, I jes might."
Isis, oh, Isis, you mystical child.
What drives me to you is what drives me insane.
I still can remember the way that you smiled
On the fifth day of May in the drizzlin' rain.
Not me - although a Dylan affectionado for the last 2 years - I've listened to most of his songs but have yet to really attempt to learn anything on the guitar except that which I heard as a boy - The Times They are A Changing. Of course Bob says now - "people are crazy and times are strange I used to care but . . things have changed." Maybe not but Bob did - I have read about him and convinced that he is a believer.
By the way read your blog with Baal's post - my prayer to you and yours with your current suffering. Baal's post proves he is human with a heart even if he doesn't see the world in the same light - I dare say in the truth that we enjoy in the illumination of the Holy Spirit.
Blessings and Peace to you
Thank you for the additional clarification and for the information on Colson's book.
One point I particularly wanted to emphasize is that many people don't realize that apart from Chuck Colson's ties with the Fellowship Foundation (a.k.a. The Family)and with IONS co-founder Paul N. Temple who funds The Family through his Three Swallows Foundation, there is also a connection between Chuck Colson and the DeVos family who also funds his ministry.
By the way, check out the news videos about Doug Coe and The Family at the "Conservative Babylon" site:
I am so very sorry to learn that your uncle is worsening.
I will certainly keep you and your uncle in my prayers.
I couldn't find the original article on the 'net; but, its authenticity has been verified by snopes (see bottom of article above for link).
By sheer accident my brouser dropped down to your President Obama address in Cairo post which I had missed reading on July 5. I had been greatly wanting to search for a transcript of the president's statement after first hearing about it Wednedsay on Christian radio. The gravity of his speech is only now beginning to weigh in on Christian circles.
Your blog is, therefore, at least two months ahead of the crowd!
The Lord is good, praise His holy name.
I do not know why the "news" casters are snickering at this horrifying report, but they should show a little more sensitivity at the demise of this once great nation. (Unless, of course, they are genuinely happy and cannot help but to laugh.)
You definitely have NOT made me nervous. I have thought your comments to Baal very appropriate so far.
My prayer are with you and your uncle. I'm sure you must miss him very much as I missed my uncles no longer with me.
Cultbuster Rick Ross has devoted a whole page of his Website to AMWAY/ALTICOR.
I don't necessarily always agree with what Rick Ross has to say, but unless I missed something, I think you will be able to see for yourself that his AMWAY/ALTICOR page is a collection of news articles with no editorializing on his part.
It is my understanding that one of the reasons why Dick DeVos lost the election when he ran for Governor in Michigan was because of the public perception that he had allegedly "outsourced" Alticor jobs to China. DeVos denied this saying that under Chinese law, the only products he could sell in China had to also be made in China.
Nevertheless, there were other AMWAY issues that were comong under public scrutiny.
Please do tell us all about your experiences tomorrow.....unless of course you are sworn to secrecy....LOL
Out of curiosity, what was the point you were making to Baal on the Bob Dylan ISIS song which I just got to read?
"Susanna I certainly will check out that link. The DeVos Dobson Pt Loma connections are disturbing. I grew up in Grand Rapids and have been hearing about Amway all my life - you should see how they rebuilt that city-but something never set quite right about that company -cult like. I've been to Focus Attorneys Conference-it all seems so right?////? Well I must get some sleep so I can get up to go to The Family bibile study tomorrow at 7:00 with those that personally know Coe,Colson ,current leader Dick foth and knew Halverson and Vereide. We'll be reading and discussing Matthew 24 before we begin getting ready to prepare for next Januarys 28 annual Prayer Breakfast. Oh the Humanity
What is your thinking about the tight interlocking connections between IONS and "The Family"?
P.S. to Susanna: How do you italicize here in the blogspot comments section? I have a gap in my technological knowledge about that!
you too can be an internment relocation specialist -
Has anyone given consideration to the fact that one reason behind the "it has to happen now" health care push is due to the NAU being birthed in 2010?
Right below the block where you type in comments it says "You can use some HTML tags, such as ...." You can use these tags to make things bold or italicize. It would not let me underline so the capabilities are limited. Do a google search for HTML tags and you can find examples of how to do this. I'm not sure how to actually type in an example to show you because it tries to use the tag rather than display the actual characters.
type in "<" followed by "b" followed by ">" with no spaces in between (and no quotes) at the beginning of the text you wish to bold. At the end type "<" followed by "/" followed by "b" followed by ">" to close it.
To italicize follow the same procedure replacing the 'b' with an 'i.'
To both bold and italicize as above you put both tags 'b' and 'i' as I've shown in the previous comment in the beginning and at the end.
Actually, you do not need to put end tags if there's no other text to follow or if you wish to bold, italicize, or bold/italicize the entire text.
There ya go! You've made it simpler than my example. I wasn't sure what would happen if put spaces in between...
< / Test >
Before the passage you want to italicize, you type what is called your "on tag" with the letter "i" standing for "italicize."......
At the end of the passage in order to close the italicized section you type in what is called your "off tag" with forward slash before the letter "i".........
When you publish the message the tags disappear, but the passage appears italicized.
Here is the Free Republic HTML Sandbox that someone was kind enough to share with me. It has instructions for all kinds of text variations that you might find useful - including the italics tag instructions:
Craig's instructions were very good. The Free Republic HTML Sandbox simply gives you more text variations.
LOL I forgot to add spaces after the "<" and before ">" so the tags would show up in the message I posted here.
< i > open italics tag
< /i > closed italics tag
In one of his concerts, Bob Dylan said his song "Isis" was about marriage.
The following is a biography of Bob Dylan. The section describing his religious beliefs is particularly interesting.
Here are a couple of suggestions regarding the interpretation of his "Isis" lyrics
Dick and Betsy DeVos attend Mars Hill church in Grandville, Michigan. You probably are aware that the head guy there is Rob Bell, one of the leaders of the Emerging Church movement. I find this quite an interesting and disturbing connection.
Could you be thinking of something Peter Lemesurier wrote:
"This reminds me of the Peter Lemesurier’s blueprint for bringing forth Maitreya. In the Armageddon Script one of Lemesurier’s themes is the use of religion against itself:
"Rather than attempt to create a new vision, therefore, the task which presses most urgently upon us at the present time would seem to be to investigate those ancient prophecies which seem to swamp our world of modern vision, to research their origins and implications, to observe their extraordinary effects throughout history and above all to watch the successive efforts of those concerned to control and cope with the forces thus unleashed...we may finally find ourselves in a position not merely to anticipate the likely flow of future events …but actually to exercise a conscious control over those events by co-operating with, rather than opposing, the prophecies...Only then, perhaps, having, as it were, exorcised the former visions, shall we be in a position to create new visions of our own, and thus go on to create a 'new heaven and a new earth' of our own devising." p. 30"
The passage you quoted from Lemesurier’s "Armageddon Script" is redolent of a now - rare early nineteen sixties book entitled The Passover Plot: A New Interpretation of the Life and Death of Jesus by Hugh J. Schonfield.
Here is the blurb from Amazon:
"Fascinating . . . lucidly written and carefully documented, it is a valuable addition to the library of anyone seeking to understand the origins of Christian faith."-Chicago Tribune
Finally back in print, this special 40th anniversary edition of Dr. Schonfield's international multimillion-copy bestseller is set to rock the establishment view of the life of Jesus all over again.
There is probably no other figure in modern Jewish historical research who is more controversial or famous than Hugh J. Schonfield, who once said: "The scholars deplore that I have spilled the beans to the public. Several of them have said to me, 'You ought to have kept this just among ourselves, you know.'"
What he did to "spill the beans" was present historical evidence suggesting that Jesus was a mortal man, a young genius who believed himself to be the Messiah and deliberately and brilliantly planned his entire ministry according to the Old Testament prophecies-even to the extent of plotting his own arrest, crucifixion and resurrection.
Since Schonfield's death in 1988, his popularity and the interest in his prodigious work, which included over 40 books, has drawn increasing attention, particularly outside Judaism. In fact, it is probably fair to say that his contribution to the Gentile understanding of Jewish aspirations among those within the Christian cultural framework has been without parallel. In true Christian tradition, he has also been the cause of much contention.
In the wake of resurgent interest in religious history spurred by Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ and Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code, this 40th anniversary edition of The Passover Plot is set to engage a completely new generation of readers searching for truth.
Born in London in 1901, Dr. Hugh J. Schonfield was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for his services toward international humanity.
Amazon.com: The Passover Plot: Special 40th Anniversary Edition ...The Passover Plot: Special 40th Anniversary Edition (Paperback). by Hugh J. Schonfield (Author) "CHRISTIANITY is rooted in Palestine in a Jewish environment ...
www.amazon.com/Passover-Plot-Special-40th.../1932857095 - Cached - Similar
I found the information by doing a search using the words "Solana, ancient prophecies, new vision." I took he word "world" out on a whim.
The idea that Jesus was just a man was probably around in the Jewish community since the beginning. There were a lot of men claiming to be a messiah at the time. It wasn't a new idea when Schonfield picked it up. It probably had a long history in the academic community.
The Armageddon Script suggests that prophecies will be recreated to get their power out of the way so that those pushing NA can move on to their "new vision."
All of this might have been easier to pull off before the internet. Without the internet people were dependent on the MSM who might have reported in wonder on the "strange happening." Creme with his disappearing Maitreya appears like a fringe nut no matter what he claims or what his following is.
I can't see a majority of Christians around the world standing in awe of some manipulated messiah because of something reported in the MSM which isn't trusted any more. In spite of great planning, the New Agers weren't able to pull it off with Obama in the role.
This doesn't mean I discount the power of NA which is bringing about its agenda with the baseball bat of power and the stealth methods and staying power of cockroaches.
Let's see if anyone comes out of the woodwork to defend cockroaches.
In Israel Orthodox Jews are being blamed for the killing of some homosexuals at a club in Tel Aviv, even though the hit looked like a professional job.
Want to see who is supporting the Obama Health Care package?
Organized leftist groups. Did you hear this from Obama? Did you hear this on the news, left or right? No, it's only the opposition to the Obama plan that is organized according to the propagandists.
Read that great article from Pravda Craig posted earlier.
In Revelations when God judges the Churches, He says, I know your works, I know your works, I know your works.
I sure thought things would be worse at this point but God's plan is usually full of surprises and shatters our imaginations, (while remaining true to Scripture). If the ENP did start the 70th week, I think we have some "shock and awe" in the near future. Constance, I wish you had a crystal ball!
This article demonstrates how close we may be to the mark. Such stories are never mentioned in mainstream headlines, but we understand the significance...we, brothers and sisters are not in darkness.
read the article, this has already been in a hearing by the Senate Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee
and has broad support from both parties! By the way, it would apply to EVERYONE, not just illegal aliens, anyone seeking a job and we know, given our economy, thats a heck of a lot of people!
***********************************Congress eyes biometric authentication for job eligibility
22.07.2009 kl 21:53 | IDG News Service
In a move likely to worry opponents of a national ID card, some lawmakers in Congress are proposing that biometrics be used to authenticate the identity of anyone seeking a job in the U.S.
read full article here: http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=A4857E1D-1A64-67EA-E4C3710CD9DA5EDB
Read the reviews of her book Sacred Desire. It's pretty clear she is influenced by New Age writers. Her connection with Templeton is another sign.
Here's a write-up on Transhumanism.
When we leave morality in the ditch as we move on in an intellectual search, we leave the most important part of religion behind. We are on this earth for a given number of years. Everything we do impacts others. Charity, kindness, decency, caring do not come automatically into one's soul. They are actions that are not programmed into the brain through evolution. Hopefully they are taught to us by those who have learned the lessons of the past.
Somewhere I read that there are plans to develop a chip that can be implanted in each person that will control and produce expected behavior. I found it as I was skipping around the internet, but never saved the source. This is where the blending of science and religion will take us if we let it.
Cockroaches are wondrous creature, a hissing cockroach making a magnificent pet for, say, your son.
And of course they can't even be killed by radiation caused by a nuclear war.
Following up on the leads that Jacklyn gave about disturbing Congressional seeking of reliable citizenship indicators such as biometric measurements of our collective "Yours Truly"s, and Dorothy's post about the chip, I found this story about the still "emerging" verichip technology. The tiny url is:
I am going to make it a point to learn as much as I can about Leonard Sweet, Thanks!
Here is the website associated with the report:
Someone from this blog, a while back, sent me this verse and asked me what I thought of it:
Is. 49:6 He says, “It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant To raise up the tribes of Jacob and to restore the apreserved ones of Israel;
I will also make You a light of the nations
So that My salvation may reach to the end of the earth.”
...I will translate from the Hebrew...so that my Yeshua may reach to the ends of the earth. Yeshua came first for the "lost sheep of the House of Israel" ( that is not Judah, that is Israel).
As the gospel goes out to the four corners of the earth, His sheep hear His voice. Unfortunately, lots of religions have prevented people from hearing the news.
The shalom that we are all searching comes from Yeshua, the living Torah.
When Gan Eden is restored, there will be no religion. We'll have the Lamb, and we'll have His Torah. We are called to relationship with the living God, which is what was broken at the Fall. Yeshua came to restore this and He came through the tribe of Judah i.e. He was a Jew. The Northern Kingdom ( the House of Israel) and the Jews ( the House of Judah) are scattered throughout the planet. Some of the Jews are the visible remnant of Israel. All 12 tribes are mixed with the nations and many have heard the gospel.
Zech. 10:8-10 “I will whistle for them to gather them together, For I have redeemed them;
And they will be as numerous as they were before. “When I scatter them among the peoples, They will remember Me in far countries,
And they with their children will live and come back. “I will bring them back from the land of Egypt And gather them from Assyria; And I will bring them into the land of Gilead and Lebanon Until no room can be found for them.
We serve an awesome God.
You will notice that Yeshua is echoing what the Psalms say about YHVH:
Psa. 148:5-6 Let them praise the name of the LORD, For He commanded and they were created. He has also established them forever and ever; He has made a decree which will not pass away.
Luke 21:33 “Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.
He will accomplish everything that His Word says He will accomplish and one of the amazing prophecies He will accomplish is to restore all of Israel. HE will reconcile the two houses to be one nation in the Land:
Ezek. 37:21-22 “Say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “Behold, I will atake the sons of Israel from among the nations where they have gone, and I will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; and I will make them aone nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king will be king for all of them; and they will no longer be two nations and no longer be divided into two kingdoms.
This is why I am always explaining that the Jews are not ALL Israel, they are 2 1/2 tribes. The Northern Kingdom, in the Bible was NEVER, EVER called Jews, but they were called Israel. Israel is the name given to Jacob, who persevered with God and man and prevailed. Regardless of our genealogy, we too must wrestle with God and prevail. but there are those who are actually descendants of the 12 tribes who are hidden in the nations. They need redemption, because we all need redemption.
Genealogy will not save us, nor ritual conversion. The only who can save us the one whose name means salvation, Yeshua. Salvation is of God, and thankfully it is of Him, not from ourselves or we'd all be in big trouble. If there is anyone on the blog who has not called to the one to whom every knee will bow...it's not too late..
Phil. 2:9-10 For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus aEVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
It's the same passage as in Isaiah, in case there are any doubts about who Yeshua is:
Is. 45:22-24 “Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; For I am God, and there is no other. “I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me cevery knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance.“They will say of Me, ‘Only in the LORD are righteousness and strength.’ Men will come to Him, And all who were angry at Him will be put to shame.
Sweet's book, Quantum Spirituality, is downloadable from his website:
It's loaded with fodder. I hope you have on your muck boots!
I almost forgot to mention the tattle-tail squads, I'm sure we have all heard of them by now.
They don't even try to be subversive anymore, it's right out there. I told my sister this morning, ignorance is becoming inexusable.
LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER
National Guard asked to explain 'internment' jobs
Campaign recruiting for workers at 'civilian resettlement facility'
Posted: August 07, 2009
11:45 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
An ad campaign featured on a U.S. Army website seeking those who would be interested in being an "Internment/Resettlement" specialist is raising alarms across the country, generating concerns that there is some truth in those theories about domestic detention camps, a roundup of dissidents and a crackdown on "threatening" conservatives.
Who acted like he "knew" it all
Til the things that he "knew"
Got mixed up in a brew
That he wants to call "pasta fasoul"
( At least in certain quarters where they don't know "you-know-what" from shinola and are therefore unaware that said "brew" is also "known" as "the Devil's chicken soup for the soul").
DEAD CHICKENS ANYONE???
Chef Baal even promises not to tell you whether or not they died a natural death.
Actually, the correct spelling is "pasta e fagioli."
The little falsehood was just my warm and fuzzy little way of trying to make Baal feel at home.
Who e'er in her "Great Marriage" crisis (a.k.a. Hieros Gamos)
Looked for "O's" body parts
Found all "O's" body parts
But one - can you guess what her vice is????????
Guess we will have to wait until December 2012 to find out "the rest of the story." When Osiris "rises" and we can see what is missing.
Omnipotent and Eternal God who hath ordained the whole creation for thy praise and glory and for the salvation of man, I earnestly beseech thee that though wouldst send one of thy spirits of the order of Jupiter, one of the messengers of Zadkiel whom thou hast appointed governor of thy firmament at the present time, most faithfully, willingly, and readily to show me these things which I shall ask, command, or require of him, and truly execute my desires. Nevertheless, O Most Holy God, thy will and not mine be done through Jesus Christ, thy only begotten Son our Lord.
Whats the difference between Jesus and a picture of Jesus?
You only need ONE nail to hang up a picture of Jesus.
They get to their balls and Moses says, "I'm not that good, I'm going to lay up to the left." So, he takes out his pitching wedge and hits a nice shot into the fairway, leaving him about 100 yards from the green.
Jesus says, "I'm going for it." and pulls out his 7 iron.
Moses says, "What are you doing, that's two hundred yards! You should use your 3 iron!"
Jesus says, "Hey, Arnold Palmer hits his 7 iron two hundred yards!" He lines up and takes the shot, which is perfectly on line but lands in the water short of the green.
Jesus raises his hand, and his ball floats to the top, bobbing on the waves. He grabs his gap wedge and walks out on the water, and hits a nice chip to the center of the green.
Tiger walks over to Moses and says, "Who's he think he is, Jesus Christ?"
Moses says "No, he thinks he's Arnold Palmer!"
The context of vain in this passage is to make empty.
7723. שׇׁוְא shav}, shawv; or שַׁו shav, shav; from the same as 7722 in the sense of desolating; evil (as destructive), literally (ruin) or morally (especially guile); figuratively idolatry (as false, subjective), uselessness (as deceptive, objective; also adverbially, in vain):—false(-ly), lie, lying, vain, vanity.
Just a warning to those on the blog that want to try to make Yeshua's name empty. You can do what you want, but it is not without consequences. It's not only about cursing or telling bad jokes, but it's if our lives render His Name empty too. I have quietly watched the confusion on the blog here and am now speaking up because there's a spirit operating that is from the pit.
To my brothers and sisters in Yeshua on the blog here, I would caution you to not be in direct dialogue with a deceiving spirit...
Eph. 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
2Cor. 6:14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?
What's the difference between Baal (the false god) and a picture of Baal?
Your new girlfriend has just invited you to the spiritual development group that she attends every week. You agree, but you feel a growing sense of panic when you realise that you are totally ignorant of spiritual concepts. What will these people be like? How will you keep up your SNAG act in front of real Sensitive New Age Guys?
Fear not! All you need to know about the New Age is in the following paragraphs. By remembering a few key phrases, you will be accepted into any spiritual group as a fellow traveller along Truth's highway.
Rule number one for the novice New Ager is to make sure that a crystal of some sort is visible on you at all times. You will notice that all of the women will be wearing a necklace of either amethyst or rose quartz, but for a man, a large chunk of natural, clear quartz that is strapped to a cord around your neck is far more suitable. If you feel uncomfortable wearing your crystal in this way, then carrying it in your hand is also quite acceptable, as long as you remember to look at it appreciatively every now and then, making sure that others see it too of course.
When people notice your crystal they will invariably ask, "What is your crystal programmed for?" In reply, avoid any macho response that suggests that you are using it to attract more sex, money, or power, as this will blow your cover immediately, instead, use the vague, but common phrase, "I have programmed it to help me to enhance my spiritual growth." This reply will satisfy the enquirer without encouraging questions of a more specific nature.
To acquire a new name that reflects your spiritual goals is also quite common among New Agers, therefore don't be surprised if you are introduced to people with strange names such as Shekinah, Silver Wolf, or Starlight. To find your own spiritual name, you can use either of two methods. You could choose a word at random from any New Age magazine, or you could ask your spirit guide for a suggestion.
To have a spirit guide is as necessary for the New Ager as having a permanent smile on your face. If you are asked who your spirit guide is, then it is safest to opt for a Red Indian guide - everyone else does! Make sure that you give your spirit guide an impressive name though. You won't gain much respect from your peers within the spiritual development circles if your guide is called Joe, so give him a name such as Snow Buffalo, Tall Eagle, or Smiling Rainbow Hearted Mountain Bear.
If you want to be a bit different, or if someone else has already chosen the name that you made up for your guide, then go a step further and say that instead of a spirit guide you have a guardian angel. For extra points, use the name of one of the Archangels and the eyes of the people in the group will light up with awe and admiration. Don't go too far though, as an inferred conversation with God or the late J.C. will mean that you will soon find yourself standing alone, looking with feigned interest at the dozen or so statues of unicorns and Red Indians that the host has proudly displayed on the mantelpiece.
As you settle in for the evening's lesson and psychic exercises (aerobics for the soul), you will invariably be asked to participate in an experiment on past life recall. Here is another ideal opportunity to impress your girlfriend and the rest of the group. Once again though, use moderation in your claims and don't invent details of a life as Tutankhamen or Henry the Eighth, as the group leader has probably already claimed both of these. And if he hasn't, then he'll probably be upset that he has forgotten to include them in his lineage of previous incarnations. It is much safer to opt for "memories" of an existence as an advisor, astrologer, or valet to a monarch or famous person, as historical records will not necessarily disprove the names and events of this lifetime that you suddenly recall.
If you have survived the evening so far, your last test will be the supper. Under no circumstances should you eat anything other than vegetarian food (i.e. fruits, nuts, vegetables, or any cooked combination of these that invariably tastes like warm, wet cardboard), or your plans for acceptance will be sunk quicker than Atlantis was.
As you depart, make sure that you hug everyone at least once, and be sure to offer deep and meaningful words of inspiration - such as "keep smiling" - to every person at least twice. If you have come up with the right sort of platitudes for everyone and if everything else has gone well, you will probably hear your girlfriend telling her friends that you are indeed her soulmate, and you will already be looking forward to the next gathering of these salubrious spirituality seekers.
Good luck - or as the New Agers say - May the Great Spirit be with you!
From MicroSoft Case Study site:
European Militarization under Solana
"The European defence sector has long been fragmented along national lines as a result of a traditional assumption that military matters were best pursued by governments on a country-by-country basis. However, this approach is no longer operationally realistic or economically sustainable.
The European Defence Agency (EDA) is an agency of the European Union (EU), established by the Council of Ministers in 2004 to support member states in improving European defence capabilities.
The EU High Representative, Javier Solana, is head of the agency and chairs its steering board, a decision-making body composed of defence ministers of 26 participating member states and the European Commission.
I can think of many reasons to bash pagans -- it is much more reasonable than Catholic bashing, fundamentalist Christian bashing, Jew bashing!
This is Pagan Bashing. Blue God Buster, it really is. It is outrageous, truly SHOCKING and outrageous! Really there is no reason to bash Pagans, it just reflects badly on you!!
Flattery will get you nowhere...
What's next on the agenda with you then? Scientology-Bashing???????
I will leave my last comment on this blog for you. You are a fraud. You prey on people who are completely dependent on their faith just to get through the day. You sell them the sham idea that at any moment their faith could be stolen from them.
You collect rot sources and string them together to form the wildest theories about how peoples religious freedom is going to be striped away. And those who have nothing but their strict, legalistic, fundamentalist upbringing buy your bullshit as they seek to protect that which is dear to them.
And you carry on with this nonsense, preying on people who are frightened out of their minds. And you make money off of it.
You are also a filthy and disgusting bigot. Agreeing to appear in a "film" by a bigot and a hatemonger look to push his agenda that all kinds of people are evil and wish to destroy Christians.
You edit your own Wikipedia page to make yourself seem sane.
You are a liar, and a mentally ill fraud.
Here is hoping the "pagan's" destroy both your work and your religion.
Hope he doesn't let the door hit him in the butt on the way out.
Might give him brain damage!
Buh bye Baal!!!!
by Steven Ertelt
August 8, 2006
London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women from around the world are traveling to clinics in various locations that are now offering face lifts and cosmetic surgery using tissue from babies who have been killed by abortions.
Pro-life advocates are strongly condemning the practice and saying the taking of human life is never warranted -- especially for such a self-serving purpose.
Women like Susan Barrington, a 52-year-old housewife from England, are heading to places such as Barbados, the Dominican Republic, Moscow and Rotterdam to obtain the treatments.
She has been given the final go-ahead form a local clinic to travel abroad for the treatment that promises to make her look 10 years younger and doesn't mind that lives have been sacrificed to enhance her beauty...read entire article......
One is reminded of the legends surrounding the notorious 16th-century Hungarian Noblewoman Elizabeth Bathory, the "Blood Countess" who reportedly not only drank human blood but was also rumored to have bathed in the blood of virgins in an attempt to keep her youth.
You should be so very happy you weren't around when Elijah had HIS party for Baal! I am not running this site to honor Osiris, Isis, and other incidents of Lucifer, in drag and/or otherwise.
If you want to call me "Israel" intead of "Jew" that is all right with me.
It does not change the fact that, if you are an "Israeli" by birth, as you claim, you are an idolator for believing in a god other than the God of Israel.
Exod 20:1 God spoke all these words, to respond: 2 "I am the Lord, your God, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3 You shall not have the gods of others in My presence.
Deut. 4:35 You have been shown, in order to know that the Lord He is God; there is none else besides Him. 36 From the heavens, He let you hear His voice to instruct you, and upon the earth He showed you His great fire, and you heard His words out of the midst of the fire, 37 and because He loved your forefathers and chose their seed after them, and He brought you out of Egypt before Him with His great strength, 38 to drive out from before you nations greater and stronger than you, to bring you and give you their land for an inheritance, as this day. 39 And you shall know this day and consider it in your heart, that the Lord He is God in heaven above, and upon the earth below; there is none else.
Perchance there is among you some man or woman... whose heart is even now turning away from the Lord our God to go worship the gods of [other] nations. ... When such a one hears the words of these sanctions he may fancy himself immune, thinking, 'I shall be safe, though I walk in the tenacity of my heart, so that whatever is watered will provide for that which is [meant] to remain thirsty,' then God will not be willing to forgive him; rather the Lord's anger and passion rage against that man till every sanction recorded in this book comes down upon him, and the Lord blots out his name from under heaven (Deut. 29:13-19)."
I also clicked on his "Creation" option and found that he not a "Young earth" creationist. Again, no time to delve into it this morning, but I intend to look more deeply into what he says.
The story of Abraham and Isaac speaks of a father who goes to sacrifice His son. The story of Jacob wrestling with "a man" was a pre-incarnate picture of Yeshua. The story of Joseph being sold by his brothers for 20 pieces of silver, only to turn around and redeem his brothers and give them the bread that brings life, and to forgive them is a perfect picture of Yeshua. Moses going up and down Mt Sinai, as an intermediary between God and the people, and on and on.
I won't even get into the "suffering servant" "he who was pierced" David and Solomon, another father and son, or Absalom who was "hung on a tree".
Prov. 30:4 Who has ascended into heaven and descended?
Who has gathered the wind in His fists?
Who has wrapped the waters in His garment?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is His name or His son’s name?
Surely you know!
Surely you know, Len if you are willing to think outside the box that's been created for you by the very Jews who persecuted Yeshua and His followers.
By the way, He asked His Father to forgive them for their ignorance and blindness.
Then there is the sign of Jonah, three days and three nights in the belly of a fish...the sign of resurrection.. Moses in the little "ark" in the Nile, which brings me to the subject of Noah's ark and the one door, the only door that one could enter to be saved from the flood.
John 10:7-10 So Jesus said to them again, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am athe door of the sheep.
“All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. “I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. “The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they amay have life, and have it abundantly.
You are Israel, and probably a Jew too, but there are some from Israel who are not Jews, like folks from the tribes of Ephraim, Manassah, Asher, etc, etc. i.e the Northern Kingdom. They were never called Jews, unless they associated with Judah, in which case they could be called Jews too.
Most tribes from the Northern Kingdom don't even know that they are Israel because they have assimilated in the the nations where they were exiled. This probably makes it easier for them to hear Yeshua's voice because they don't have the baggage of Judaism t In the last days, they will be shaken out of these nations and brought to their specific tribal inheritance. Jews cannot retroactively call them Judah, since they NEVER were Judah. They were the House of Israel, the Northern Kingdom, Ephraim, but NEVER, EVER Jews, and now they're assimilated into the nations...
Right now, all we know about are Jews. There are no tribal identities with the exception of some of Levi and Levi is considered part of Judah.
Deut. 21:22-23 “If a man has committed a sin worthy of death and he is put to death, and you hang him on a tree, his corpse shall not hang all night on the tree, but you shall surely bury him on the same day (for he who is hanged is accursed of God), so that you do not defile your land which the LORD your God gives you as an inheritance.
The problem is that Yeshua is sinless.. He is the spotless Lamb slain from the foundations of the earth.
Gal. 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us — for it is written, “CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE” —
I pray you come to know the shalom of Yeshua, who died for your violations of Torah, and don't say you have never violated it because:
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
Rom. 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
It's not a question of worshipping another god, but a question of worshipping God in Spirit and in Truth...
Shalom in Yeshua,
I would dream of doing nothing to interfere with his Constitutional right to go go Hell, if that is where he is Hell-bent on going!
All your synthesized “analogies”: are so obviously strained and contrived as to be laughable. They are nowhere near as creative as the messianic Passover matza joke I set out.
If you want to dwell on analogies dwell on this one:
“In that day too, declares the Lord of Hosts, I will erase the very name of the idols from the land; they shall not be uttered any more. and I will also make the ‘prophets’ and the unclean spirit vanish from the land. If anyone ‘prophesies’ thereafter, his own father and mother, who brought him into this world, will say to him, ‘You shall die, for you have lied in the name of the Lord;’ and his own father and mother, who brought him into this world, will put him to death when he ‘prophesies.’ In that day every ‘prophet’ will be ashamed of the ‘visions’ [he had] when he ‘prophesied.’ In order to deceive he will not wear a hairy mantle, and he will declare, ‘I am not a ‘prophet,’ --- And if he is asked, ‘What are those sores on your back?’ he will reply, ‘From being beaten in the homes of my friends. (Zech. 13:2-6)’”
>>Prov. 30:4 Who has ascended into heaven and descended?
Who has gathered the wind in His fists?
Who has wrapped the waters in His garment?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is His name or His son’s name?
Surely you know!
Surely I know! There is absolutely nothing in my Bible that is embarrassing.
Of course, God is in complete control of all the forces of nature. Heaven is His throne and the earth His footstool. (Is. 56:1)
Didn’t you know this? Or have you been studying Jesus so much you completely forgot about your true and only God?
>>What is his name and what is the name of his son?
Exod. 4:22 And you shall say to Pharaoh, 'So said the Lord, "My firstborn son is Israel." ' 23 So I say to you, 'Send out My son so that he will worship Me, but if you refuse to send him out, behold, I am going to slay your firstborn son.' "
Joyce wrote, “Most tribes from the Northern Kingdom don't even know that they are Israel because they have assimilated in the nations where they were exiled. It's not a question of worshipping another god, but a question of worshipping God in Spirit and in Truth..."
Let’s face it! For you it is a matter of worshipping Another god.
You are not a Christian by your own admission. And you certainly do not write like a Jew. So you must be the blank page between
the Old and New Testaments.
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