Monday, June 15, 2009

Is an international noose tightening around Israel?

Grady McMurtry, expert on creationism is my radio guest tonight.

There are two prophetically interesting stories in the Arab News -- both are dated today. The headlines are:

I repeat, I wish Herb Peters were around to discuss this with me. In Herb's absence, what do you think?


I think Netanyahu tried to lobby the ball back into the Palestinian court with reason and logic, however, thats not what Israel is negotiating with. The US, and EU want a Palestinian state period regardless of the price Israel may be forced to pay.

Ultimately, God's providence is overseeing it all. This script was written thousands of years ago and will be perfomed down to the crossing of the "t" and the dotting of the "i".

It looks as if the stage is being set for the war of Ezekiel 38.
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Oh my word!!!

Dr. Grady McMurtry will be my radio guest on MY PERSPECTIVE tonight. He is a highly sought-after speaker. He is a Mensa member, former atheist turned Creationist who has much of importance to share with us. He is also a friend of blog participant Barbara Berry. Join us at 8 p.m. Eastern Time 7 p.m. Central Time, 6 p.m. Mountain Time, 5 p.m. Pacific Time and 4 p.m. Alaskan time at, "listen live" and in the chatroom!

Hi Jaclyn,

Important to keep a sense of humor in what is increasingly appearing to be a New Age/Marxist style take over:

Maybe they can SELL ADVERTISING to finance the WHITE HOUSE and lessen the multi-trillion dollar burden on all of us and our descendants from the banking/AIG/globalization debacle.

If you didn't think twice before
about posting comments, etc;

_maybe you should now.
as anybody read this article from Frank Schaeffer : Christians Are Domestic Terrorists!

I let you read but here just a reflexion I read :
"In fact, there are amazing parallels to be drawn between Nazism and the Christian hating ideologies of Schaeffer and Von Brunn."

to be honnest I saw the link at
really frightening.
Constance, the links you posted go to the same article re Carter's comments. Please post the link to Solana's comments. Thanks.

Following up from the previous discussion. No offence, but the New Age movement/Gnostic Christians/White Supremists/ all teach that Jesus was not divine and that Christianity was invented by Paul. The Nazis banned writings of Paul, for this reason. Alfred Rosenberg espoused the same ideas in the "Myth of the 20th century"

UN 'runs out of aid for Ethiopia'

The UN has warned that it has run out of food to provide for nine million Ethiopians who rely on its assistance.

Full article on BBC;

After reading Joyce’s comments and cautions pertaining to the flu
vaccine in the previous comments, I began going back through the GEOSS and GEO System of Systems material. I remembered one of their nine
Societal Benefit Areas (SBAs) has to do with health in particular. I knew I had read something about monitoring areas and “targeting their vaccination
programs more effectively.”

The following is from an
April 1, 2009 update although additional information can be found throughout all available GEO/GEOSS material.
How this will affect any of us is yet to be seen.

"Understanding how the environment affects health can boost human wellbeing.
Key environmental variables include airborne, marine, and water pollutants;
stratospheric ozone depletion; land-use change; food security and nutrition; noise levels; population trends; and weather-related stresses and disease vectors. For example, analyses of desertification trends and forecasts of windstorms are being used to provide early warnings of epidemics in Africa’s ‘meningitis belt’; THIS ALLOWS THE WHO (World Health Organization) AND LOCAL HEALTH EXPERTS TO TARGET THEIR VACCINATION PROGRAMS MORE EFFECTIVELY. (Emphasis mine)

Here is the GEOSS 2007-2009
DRAFT VERSION for Official Comment

Page 6 has additional Health: Understanding environmental factors affecting human health and well-being material.


Hi Savvy,

Evven a stopped clock is right twice every 24 hours:-)

Peace and blessing,

Dear Savvy,

You should know that Hitler was anti-Christian and believed in his German teutonic religion.

"We are fighting against the most ancient curse that humanity has brought upon itself. Against the so-called Ten Commandments we are fighting." (Hitler, in conversation with Hermann Rauschning; cited in Rauchning's preface to Armin Robinson's ed., "The Ten Commandments," Pgs. ix-xiii. Hitler told Rauschning that his mission in life was to destroy the "tyrannical God of the Jews," and His "life-denying Ten Commandments.)"

"We cannot tolerate that another organization is established alongside of us that has a different spirit than ours. We must crush it. National Socialism in all earnestness says: '-- I am the lord your god; you shall have no other gods before me...--'" (1936 speech by Nazi Supreme Group Leader Schultz at a meeting of the National Socialist Confederation for Students)

"Richard Wagner, in his specifically Teutonic racialism and ferocious hatred of Jews surpassed earlier Volkist antisemites. 'Emancipation from the yoke of Judaism appears to us the foremost necessity,' he wrote. He was to develop, in his music and journalism, the idea of a de-Judaized, hence de-Christianized, Germanic religion in which the pagan Teutonic elements merged with or displaced the Christian ones." (Lucy Dawidowicz, "The War Against the Jews" Page 42)
Crocodile Tears for Palestinian Christians

By: Mark D. Tooley | Monday, June 15, 2009

Mainline Protestant, Evangelical and Catholic prelates have endorsed a letter to President Obama hailing his Cairo speech to the "Muslim world," lamenting the "dwindling" Palestinian Christian population," and promising to "rally Christians nationwide around robust U.S. peacemaking efforts to achieve Israeli-Palestinian peace."

How wonderful. But this ecumenical coalition has not expressed very much interest in any "dwindling" Christian population anywhere else in the Middle East, where in fact nearly every Christian population is "dwindling." The "dwindling" Palestinian Christian population merits special concern because they are, sadly, useful props for bashing Israel. "Dwindling" Christian populations in Syria, Jordan, Iraq, and Lebanon, however tragic their plight, serve no utility for bishops, church bureaucrats, and professional Religious Left activists anxious for one more excuse to decouple the U.S. from Israel.

Continued here:
To Anonymous 12:29 and everybody else. Try both headline links again. Thanks for calling it to my attention!

Dear Len,

Savvy is right. Hatred of St. Paul is a hallmark of the deepest, most Jew-hating occultism.

Another, to me VERY interesting aspect of the most recent GEOSS related material I've been going through, is it's reference to
"the Tower of Babel Problem" There is no doubt or misunderstaning as to the reference being used - they are using a clear depiction of the famous painting by Pieter Brueghel of the Biblical Tower of Babel - in their power point presentations to describe the the “problem” that this GEOSS system of systems is designed to solve IF and when it is fully implemented by 2015.
Here is one fairly recent GEO & GEOSS Application to Public Health Strategies Ppt. where on pages
20-23 you can view the Tower of Babel. I made hard copies yesterday of a different ppt that, surprise, surprise, I am unable to
locate again today on the Internet to post the link here. It has specific unique references to the "Tower of Babel Problem"
I'll see if I can track it down again, - Constance, if you want a copy I'll send you one of the extras I made of it yesterday.
Here is a link though to the
GEO & GEOSS 'Application to Public Health Strategies' ppt

Also, I thought it worth noting that, until it was discontinued, apparently due to public "protest" the well publicized EU poster "Many Tongues, One Voice" also featured the Tower of Babel as its centerpiece. Here are several sites where you can view the original poster along with photos of the Louise Weiss building, Strasbourg (France), the official seat of the European Parliament.
Also included is some very interesting related commentary.

My purpose here is to provide a couple links with perspectives showing the Many Tongues, One Voice
Poster/Louise Weiss building/Pieter Brueghel painting. I am not endorsing all information found else-where on the sites. In truth, I haven't had time to examine anything other than the pages I've linked to.
Jewish perspective from
Israel National News
Arutz Sheva "The New World Order: The Modern Tower of Babel"
from "The Tamar Yonah Show" - Tamar Yonah
flickr image of 'Many Tongues, One voice' poster


Pieter Brueghel famous Tower of Babel painting:


Regardless of what you interpret this to mean, at least two things should be clear.

1.) As noted above in the GEOSS System of Systems ppt. these humans like those who came before them are not building for the worship and glory of God, but are dedicated to the glory of man, with a motive of making a 'name' for the builders.

2.) Pride still does go before destruction, a haughty spirit still precedes a fall, the man is still a fool that hath said in his heart, there is no God, and God has not changed, He will not be mocked. The Days of Noah are upon us.

Thanks Len,

Lucy Dawidowicz has it right. But I would add that the religious management coming out of the AOC is exactly what the NAZI's envisioned... "a de-Judaized, hence de-Christianized, Germanic religion in which the pagan Teutonic elements merged with or displaced the Christian ones."

The AOC has devised a set of global religious guidelines or laws which elevate worship of the creation in place of the Creator and/or which diminish or punish those who insist on holding fast to God's laws or any other "narrow" religious view, ie. "fundamentalists".

The Brookings document, (Obama's script), handed to Condi Rice by Javier Solana himself brought home the reality of "global political management".

The AOC is providing a framework for "global religion management".

The World Health Organization is attempting to implement global "health management" (See Rudi's research).

The only piece we are missing is the enforcement arm, the strong man, the one who has the arrogance, perhaps infused by Satan himself, to think he can implement/oversee/manage all this.

Anti-babelists. That's what they are. Refusing to accept God's authority. After all, it was God who divided the nations, no doubt to prevent/delay what we are seeing today.

I don't dispute The Nazis fascination for Tuetonism and Norse mythology. However, they did hate St. Paul, whom Rosenberg credited with responsible for creating Jewish-Christianity. The same angle is taken by Savitri Devi,and many others in the occult.

In her pamphlet Paul of Tarsus, or Christianity and Jewry, Savitri Devi argues that Christianity is not the creation of Jesus Christ, but of Saint Paul.

Rosenberg saw St. Paul as the Jewish corruptor of Christianity,

According to Jerusalem Post there was an attempt on Jimmy Carter's life and Hamas saved him..

I don't know why an article like that sounds bizarre, but especially when they blame Al Queda.. Does anyone else find this amusing, or difficult to swallow or am I the only one on this blog suffering from extreme paranoia and mistrust of everything the media says.

So let me get it... Hamas are the good guys and Al Queda the bad guys.... I feel like Jon Stewart now and I want to do a comedy skit on this. In fact, I'm sure he'll do one, which will on serve to minimize the ridiculousness of this situation. Jon Stewart is also part of the conspiracy ( sorry for all who don't know him.. Comedy Central...a little inappropriate at times)

Who the heck is this mysterious Al Queda that manages to knock down tall buildings with a single plane, transport nuclear weapons to Iraq, bombs in Somalia, Kenya, and make attempts on the life of our beloved former President, and peanut farmer?

And you thought Hamas was just a terrorist organization, ha, when all along they are standing for truth, justice and the American way. Just goes to show you how wrong you are. Hamas is a security agency set up to protect former Presidents, because the Secret Service isn't adequate.

I'm glad Jimmy wasn't killed, but I wish he stay away from the Middle East. It's dangerous there, especially with Al Queda.. Good thing we have Hamas to protect him.

Now if only Fatah would realize what they are missing out on, by not reconciling with Hamas.... the world would be a better place.
I have written several times about CMEP, Churches for Middle East Peace, a terrible liberal ecumenic organization who sponsored a letter to Obama for 2 state solution. Jim Wallis, one of the people mentioned in the article is part of Obama's Faith-based initiative group. I suspect one of the requirements to belong to Obama's group is that you believe in 2 state solution.

Sadly this group of Christians do not believe the verses in the Bible that promise the Land to Israel.

One of the members of CMEP board is involved in giving religions grants to organizations on behalf of the Lilly Foundation. I suspect no one will receive a grant from Lilly unless they too, believe in a 2 State solution.

Here's their site, in case you want to get aggravated further:

This is one of the organizations that is very active also:

Landrum Bolling is the fellow with LIlly, also connected to Georgetown who has the Islamic program which was funded by Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, the same who financed Harvard's:

The head of Georgetown's Islamic studies Center, John Esposito is a high level group member of the UN's Alliance of Civilization.

There are also CFR connections to CMEP.

Just a few things about this list.. Joan Kroc Foundation supports Sabeel ( mentioned above). Christ Seiple's father, signed the letter and he is on this CFR committee. His father was head of World Vision which is involved in many UN activities and supports the Millennial Development Goals.

Madeline Albright opened the doors for the Saudi Prince to get into our universities. Watched an interview about this with the Prince.

Eboo Patel is a big mover and shaker in AoC as well as many other interfaith initiatives.

CFR's report "Clash of Civilizations" led to the UN's Alliance of Civilizations, so I'll let you draw your own conclusions.


There's so much there, and I'll have to take a closer look, but wanted to send you this link that I got to from the links of GEOSS, that you provided:

The technology is incredible, and we only see a little fraction of what's out there. Imagine the classifed technology that we don't see..

In case you thought that
the FED isn't quite powerful
enough yet;

Some reports say Carter promises to urge President Barack Obama to remove the Palestinian extremist organization (Hamas) from the US list of designated terrorists.
Found your comment from 1:54 about the flu vaccine info very interesting since they are trying to contol the food security now too with the bill coming up HR 2749. See Berit Kjos 'What new' at

Off subject. Sorry_ But
Discovery Channel recently did a
segment on the magnetic "shell"
which surrounds the entire planet Earth
and keeps us all from being cooked
by the normal everyday radiation
that flows from the sun. This isn't theory
any more. It's accepted facts.

Near the end of the show, they
went on to talk about the large
magnetic "anomaly" that apparently
lurks just off the coast of Brazil.
This kind of hole in the magneto-
sphere is known to completley mess
up navigational equipment and
radar, and other electronic gear
in a major way, as in ruin and/or
completely burn out that gear.
So am I the first one to suggest
that the Air France flight out of
Brazil the other day may have
been a casualty of that very
magnetic anomaly ? I still
haven't heard any good guesses
as to just what happened.

You heard it here first.
Thanks Charlotte for the feedback as well as pointing me to the latest updates over at
Crossroads/Berit Kjos. I was aware of HR 2749 but had not followed the progression of the bill over the past few weeks. There isn't a single area that isn't undergoing metamorphic 'CHANGE' these days.

The CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) has a web page specifically about Influenza. Sort of a "Everything you always wanted to know about Influenza that those calling the SHOTS are willing to Tell You" (pun intended)
There is a March 9, 2009 released Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP)announcement of their Provisional 2009-2010 recommendations for prevention and control of influenza. One of the recommendations is,

"All children aged 6 months through 18 years are recommended to receive vaccination against influenza for the 2009-2010 influenza season."

I am reminded these recommendations were released
BEFORE the June 11, 2009, World Health Organization (WHO)announcement raising the worldwide pandemic alert level to Phase 6.

Of course , in this pre-chaos phase we aren't going to read anything "official" about a future mandatory immunization program.
However , as I watch the video and read the June 11, 2009 statement by HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius as she responds to the WHO H1N1 pandemic alert level to phase 6, and states,

"“What this declaration does do is remind the world that flu viruses like H1N1 need to be taken seriously. Although we have not seen large numbers of severe cases in this country so far, things could possibly be very different in the fall, especially if things change in the Southern Hemisphere, and we need to start preparing now in order to be ready for a possible H1N1 immunization campaign starting in late September.”

and combined this with what numerous independent news organizations are reporting, as well as what we are now realizing the capabilities of the 'GEOSS System of Systems' may be, I evaluate all of it,
not becoming unduly alarmed, but fully informed and aware of possible scenarios in order to prepare
as the Lord leads.

U.S. Response to H1N1 Pandemic Declaration -video

Thursday, June 11, 2009 Statements by
HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano
on WHO Decision to Declare Novel H1N1 Virus Outbreak a Pandemic

CDC Influenza (Flu)

"Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus." Philippians 4:6-7
Rudi, Joyce, Jaclyn,
Susanna, IsitILord, Len, Dorothy,
OldManoftheSki, JD, moemi,
Savvy, Frences, DouginMi,
bjorn, Mariel, Setterman,
and of course Constance,
_and many more,

I watched that GEOSS presentation.
I was just trying to convey to
my nine year old what has happened
in the world and in our town in the
past ten years (her lifetime).
Words kept failing.
Words still fail.
I don't want to confuse her,
or scare her at all.
I just exhaled slowly.
Time to pray
Time to fast.
Time to observe the Sabbath
or at least try.
Time to meet with God.
Thank him and praise him
for his holiness and his mercy.
For his awesome creation.
He is that God; the One
of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Bless his name.
He is a God who sits high
but looks low.
Hallelujah !
Thanks so much for all your work on the new age movement. I still have my first copy of "Rainbow" and it's more relevant today than when you first wrote it. My only comment stems from noticing that you're interviewing a young earth guy and I hope that you're giving some time to a genuinely Bible believing old earth guy (perhaps Hugh Ross) also. There really are some of us who believe passionately in our Lord and his physical resurrection, but who know science well enough to believe the evidence for an ancient earth/universe as well.
Thanks again for your wonderful new age work.
I miss Herb, too!
Maranatha..Come soon ,Lord!
The generosity of Safnofi makes me nervous:

Don't mean to be cynical but..

Makes one think of shady "realtors" and swamp land in Florida.
Whether a person acknowledges the authority of the Pope or not, I think everyone agrees that it is wrong to bear false witness against ANYONE.

In previous threads, I have posted articles reporting how the "Hitler's Pope Myth" began as a communist plot.

A review of Rabbi David G. Dalin's book THE MYTH OF HITLER'S POPE by Matthew M. Anger reads:

Despite the misleading nature of the controversy — one which Dalin questions from the outset — the first critics of the wartime papacy were not Jews. Among the worst attacks were those of leftist non-Jews, such as Carlo Falconi (author of The Silence of Pius XII), not to mention German liberal Rolf Hochhuth, whose 1963 play, The Deputy, set the tone for subsequent derogatory media portrayals of wartime Catholicism. By contrast, says Dalin, Pope Pius XII "was widely praised [during his lifetime] for having saved hundreds of thousands of Jewish lives during the Holocaust." He provides an impressive list of Jews who testified on the pope's behalf, including Albert Einstein, Golda Meir and Chaim Weizmann. Dalin believes that to "deny and delegitimize their collective memory and experience of the Holocaust," as some have done, "is to engage in a subtle yet profound form of Holocaust denial."

The most obvious source of the black legend about the papacy emanated from Communist Russia, a point noted by the author. There were others with an axe to grind. As revealed in a recent issue of Sandro Magister's Chiesa, liberal French Catholic Emmanuel Mounier began implicating Pius XII in "racist" politics as early as 1939. Subsequent detractors have made the same charge, working (presumably) from the same bias.

While the immediate accusations against Pius XII lie at the heart of Dalin's book, he takes his analysis a step further. The vilification of the pope can only be understood in terms of a political agenda — the "liberal culture war against tradition." In that respect, the controversy is a "microcosm" of a much greater conflict, albeit an extremely important one. While this aspect has been addressed previously, the fact that it is recognized by a non-Catholic makes it more striking:

The liberal bestselling attacks on the pope and the Catholic Church are really an intra-Catholic argument about the direction of the Church today. The Holocaust is simply the biggest club available for liberal Catholics to use against traditional Catholics in their attempt to bash the papacy and thereby to smash traditional Catholic teaching — especially on issues relating to sexuality, including abortion, contraception, celibacy, and the role of women in the Church. The anti-papal polemics of ex-seminarians like Garry Wills and John Cornwell (author of Hitler's Pope), of ex-priests like James Carroll, and of other lapsed or angry liberal Catholics exploit the tragedy of the Jewish people during the Holocaust to foster their own political agenda of forcing changes on the Catholic Church today...
read entire review...


The following article is an update on the "Myth of Pope Pius XII" controversy:


Published June 17, 2009

The Pave the Way Foundation for interreligious dialogue has announced it has found more than 2,300 pages of original documents illustrating Pope Pius XII's efforts to help Jews in the face of Nazism.

Gary Krupp, president of the New York based foundation, affirmed this in a statement to Zenit, and stated the documents from the years 1940-1945 will be made available to the public for research.

The president, himself a Jew, reported these papers, found through the organisation's private research, give "strong support to the argument that Pope Pius XII - Eugenio Pacelli - worked diligently to save Jews from Nazi tyranny."

As a part of a private research project, the foundation found the documents in a monastery in Avellino, Italy.

The foundation's statement noted the possibility that "many more vital documents could be found in larger dioceses, if researchers simply took the time to look."...
read entire article...


(Note: English translations included for some of the documents.)

HIGH TREASON (English Translation)

Pius XII, Stauffenberg and the Conspiracy against Hitler

By Michael Hesemann
© 2009 by Michael Hesemann, Düsseldorf/Germany. All rights reserved


Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions.
Karl Marx, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right

The Tanakh, New Testament and the Qur'an are all Zionist Documents!

The Jewish connection to Jerusalem is an ancient and powerful one. Judaism made Jerusalem a holy city over three thousand years ago and through all that time Jews remained steadfast to it.

Jerusalem appears in the Jewish Bible 669 times and Zion (which usually means Jerusalem, sometimes the Land of Israel) 154 times, or 823 times in all. The Christian Bible mentions Jerusalem 154 times and Zion 7 times. In contrast Jerusalem and Zion appear as frequently in the Qur'an as they do in the Hindu Bhagavad-Gita, the Taoist Tao-Te Ching, the Buddhist Dhamapada and the Zoroastrian Zend Avesta—which is to say, not once.

Jews pray in its direction, mention its name constantly in prayers, close the Passover service with the wistful statement "Next year in Jerusalem," and recall the city in the Grace blessing at the end of each meal. When we pray for rain or dew it is for Israel.

The destruction of the Temple looms very large in Jewish consciousness; remembrance takes such forms as a special day of mourning, houses left partially unfinished, a woman's makeup or jewelry left incomplete, and a glass smashed during the wedding ceremony.

In addition, Jerusalem has had a prominent historical role, is the only capital of a Jewish state, and is the only city with a Jewish majority during the whole of the past century. Jerusalem represents the purist expression of all that Jews prayed for, dreamed of, cried for, and died for in the two thousand years since the destruction of the Second Temple.

But what most people do not know is that the Qur'an is also Zionist though it mentions Jerusalem not a single time:

"Say: 'O God, King of the kingdom, Thou givest the kingdom to whom Thou pleasest, and Thou strippest off the kingdom from whom Thou pleasest; Thou endurest with honour whom Thou pleasest, and Thou bringest low whom Thou pleasest; all the best is in Thy hand. Verily, Thou hast power over all things." (Sura 3:26)

The Qur'an commands Israel to conquer the Holy Land:

"And [remember] when Moses said to his people: 'O my people, call in remembrance the favour of God unto you, when he produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave to you what He had not given to any other among the people. O my people, enter the Holy Land which God has assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin." (Sura 5:20-21)

The Qur'an also refers to the reinstatement of the Jews in the Land before the last judgment:

"And thereafter We said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land.' And when the last warning will come to pass, We will gather you together in a mingled crowd." (Sura 17:104)

It recognizes that Jews will pray towards Jerusalem and Muslims towards Mecca:

"...They would not follow thy direction of prayer (qibla), nor art thou to follow their direction of prayer; nor indeed will they follow each other's direction of prayer..." (Sura 2:145)

The purpose of this distinction is to prevent conflict. All qur'anic commentators explain that "thy qibla" is obviously the Kaba of Mecca, while "their qibla" refers to the Temple Area in Jerusalem. To quote just one of the most important of them, we read in Qadi Baydawi's Commentary:

"Verily, in their prayers Jews orient themselves toward the Rock (sakhrah), while Christians orientated themselves eastwards..." (M. Shaykh Zadeh, "Hashiyya ala tafsir al-Qadi al-Baydawi", Istanbul, 1979)

Some Muslim exegetes also quote the Book of Daniel as proof of this (Daniel 6:11).

"And Daniel, when he knew that a writ had been inscribed, came to his house, where there were open windows in his upper chamber, opposite Jerusalem, and three times a day he kneeled on his knees and prayed and offered thanks before his God just as he had done prior to this. "
Susanna, I am inclined to believe that Pope Pius XII tried to help the Jews, often secretly, as secrecy was the best way to do it. I remember when he died that I wept, the first time I remember crying over a death. It was the end of an era, more than I realized at the time, and his passing predicted the end of my youth, even though I didn't know it. I have read things about his helping the Jews, so long ago that I can't remember the name of the book or the author, but it was very convincingly documented. He had a more quiet, introspective quality than John Paul II, whose love for the Jews has been publicized due to his having known Jews personally in his youth. So he was not the type to insist on public acknowledgment of what he may have done for Jews in the Holocaust.

For a good look from a very important perspective of the peace process you can catch Shalom TV on Comcast and other cable providers. They are covering the Obama speeches as well as doing interviews with the Israeli ambassador to the U.N. and Jewish leaders. The phrase "peace and security" keeps coming up.

It's also a great place to learn Hebrew.
Shalom TV has a website,
I believe Herb would notice two things.

Possibility of the EU breaking ties with Israel at the E.N.Ps mid-point. Meaning it could be the covenent with the many fortold in Daniel.

He would probable also mention how interesting it is, that rather then confront Israel itself, the EU is using America to do it's dirty work.

Is it possible the EU will shield itself from Gods prophesied wrathe, towards any who try to seperate Israel; using the United States of America as cannon fodder?

Then, Herb would say

Stay tuned.

Does anyone half the exact date the ENP was signed? I would like to know when it is up for review, exactly.
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