Monday, November 10, 2008

I TOLD YOU SO DEPARTMENT - EU TO ADVANCE MILITARY CAPABILITIES

According to this article in the Middle East Times, Europe is beginning a very real and substantial military buildup.  Remembering Jacques Santer's old words as well as "John Boyd, Secretary" of the late 1990's, it may well be that the real purpose of this is to help dislodge the USA as a competing global superpower in the "coming 21st century struggle for control of scarce global resources.  Javier Solana is still very much in charge and my educated guess is that it will remain this way.  Looks like they are getting read to test the mettle of one who still naively believes in "our European Allies."  Both present and future administrations are well plagued by this apparent lack of global vision.

Constance

Comments:
U.S. Changes Stance: Supports Creation of European Defense.

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News
Interview: Single EU defence 'not for all'
Published: Tuesday 11 November 2008


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Morin was also upbeat about information received from the Bush administration, which he said had changed its stance on European defence. Quoting Robert Gates, his US counterpart, the French minister noted that "there is no longer any American hostility to the creation of 'Defence Europe'. They have understood that it is a means of improving global military capabilities".

http://www.euractiv.com/en/security/interview-single-eu-defence/article-177062
 
MOSCOW, November 7 (RIA Novosti) - Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev has said that the Obama administration in the United States needs far-reaching 'perestroika' reforms to overcome the financial crisis and restore balance in the world.

The term perestroika, meaning restructuring, was used by Gorbachev in the late 1980s to describe a series of reforms that abolished state planning in the Soviet Union.

In an interview with Italy's La Stampa published on Friday, Gorbachev said President-elect Barack Obama needs to fundamentally change the misguided course followed by President George W. Bush over the past eight years.

Gorbachev said that after transforming his country in the late 1980s, he had told the Americans that it was their turn to act, but that Washington, celebrating its Cold War victory, was not interested in "a new model of a society, where politics, economics and morals went hand in hand."

He said the Republicans have failed to realize that the Soviet Union no longer exists, that Europe has changed, and that new powers like China, Brazil and Mexico have emerged as important players on the world stage.

He told the paper that the world is waiting for Obama to act, and that the White House needs to restore trust in cooperation with the United States among the Russians.

"This is a man of our times, he is capable of restarting dialogue, all the more since the circumstances will allow him to get out of a dead-end situation. Barack Obama has not had a very long career, but it is hard to find faults, and he has led an election campaign winning over the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton herself. We can judge from this that this person is capable of engaging in dialogue and understanding current realities."

Former Russian oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky, founder of now defunct Yukos oil giant, who is in prison on fraud and tax evasion charges, also used the word perestroika in discussing the future course of the Obama administration.

In an article published in the business daily Vedomosti on Friday, Khodorkovsky said Obama's election win was not merely another change of power in a separate country, but was important for all states.

He said that, "being a liberal himself, he thinks that the world will take a left turn," and that "a global perestroika would be a logical response to the global crisis."

"The paradigm of global development is about to change. The era inaugurated by Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher 30 years ago is over."

He said decisions in neoliberal economies had been made mainly by supranational institutions and transnational corporations.

Khodorkovsky predicted: "Globalization will slow to a crawl, but will not stop. The 'golden billion' of the world's richest people will have to abandon hopes of increasing their wealth, but high consumer standards which developed at the end of the 20th century will be unaffected by the change. The striving for political freedom and open competition of personalities and ideas will not disappear."
 
Constance:

I just posted the following on a previous thread and would like your comments / or anyone else who would like to comment.

Thank you.


Anonymous said...

To primegood / Sarah:

This information is all over the Internet.

I don't know how REAL this is, but they are clearly talking about an upcoming US NORTHCOM Exercise called, "Vigilant Shield 09" and do in fact mention the dates of November 12-18, 2008.

Here is the tiny URL for one article in particular:

http://tinyurl.com/4x8o8p

10:27 PM
 
The ultimate Bush betrayal?
 
Global military capabilities against religious fundamentalism? The prophesied war against the saints?
 
More Deception...

Global Meditation on 11th November 2008 @ 11:11pm GMT

The shift has already begun, and a majority of us are beginning to feel the new energies surging into the planet, as well as into the collective consciousness of humanity. It is at this time, I feel as if this is what we were preparing for, to help ground these energies, and bring about the awakening of our brothers & sisters.

Isn't it our job as lightworkers to raise the collective consciousness of humanity to a new level of understanding, to wipe the slate clean so we can ascend without the negative influences of fear, aggression, and the ego.

We have the powers of Creation at our side, we can shape this world with our thoughts, and we have proven that already throughout centuries of human society. Some of our 'creations' may have been negative, but think of all the good things our race has created.

It is time we acted, and brought about the peace that we all deserve for once.

We will need to envision in our minds that this reality is already around us, we will need to project it as if it were in the 'now'. We will also need to focus on the Global Elite, and project as if they are free from the influences of those entities who wish to enslave us. I don't see the point in leaving any man, woman, or child behind because of the decisions they made. Every living person on this planet deserves a second chance to help us create the prophecised 'Heaven on Earth'.

It is time we released the light within us, and wake up to our responsibility of being co-creators of this reality. We need to emit our inner light, and remove the shackles of fear from our species once & for all. It is our duty as lightworkers to raise the vibration of this species, and the planet as a whole. I can 'see' the world already being united through the common interests of love, harmony, prosperity, truth, wisdom, hope, and peace. It's just we need to wake up to the reality that we are in control of our own destinies.

Instead of us waiting for a miracle to happen, why don't we be the miracle instead?

Spread the message to those who are not able to use a computer, or the Internet, tell every stranger of our intent, pass the message on to every corner of the world...so when the 11th comes around, we shall be ready as a planet to open the doors to a brave new world.

For our brothers & sisters around the world, for the planet we reside on, we shall make the stand today, and send a wave of light into the world that will shatter the darkness forever. Let us give our brothers & sisters their hope back, let's open them up to the glory that is life, and to the glory that is Creation.

Christians, especially in North America, have lost the art of meditation. In fact, we almost consider it a pagan practice. But his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night (Psalm 1:2).

For the most part, our thinking, especially for the undisciplined, has a mind of its own. We are victims of our own thoughts. I’m sure that you’ve experienced it time and time again. You could be driving your car, and without any conscious decision you begin to worry. You envision yourself in the worst case scenario and before you know it you are embraced by a mood of melancholy and despair.

Through meditation we wrestle down negative thoughts and emotions that plague us every day. Meditation is a discipline of the mind where you take charge of your thoughts, directing them towards God.

We are a society of lazy thinkers. Television has become an electronic imagination. It determines, with vivid stereo and full color imagery, how we feel and think.

Try sitting down, closing your eyes and allow your imagination to be filled with a single thought. You have been chosen by God before the creation of this world, according to his good pleasure and will.

Allow your mind to be filled with the implication of how that single truth affects who you are, and your importance to this world. This will be difficult because negative thoughts come easiest to the mind. They are safe.

As you travel throughout your thinking, you will begin to experience obstacles of fear and unbelief. Those thoughts will oppose themselves against the Word of God. You will find that often your first experience with meditation is like a wrestling match in the mind, instead of an experience of peace and stillness. As you begin to experience the authority you have over your own thinking, the floodgates of joy will burst within you, maybe for the first time. You will develop an awareness of how you and the Word of God are one in your thinking.

There may be fifty years of hardened residue built up that you will have to come up against as you meditate to internalize the Word. The Word of God is the single force in all of eternity that is able to enter your thinking and recreate your character, mind and emotions, conforming them into the image of Christ.

There is nothing spiritual about opening a Bible and reading it. Christians all over North America do that in their personal devotions and remain unchanged. Meditation opens the soul to the Word that it may begin to come in and make great change.

We suggest that you take a scripture or a single nugget of truth and meditate all day. Look at your reflex-thinking, see if it conforms to that truth--and if it does not, cast it down as an evil thing that hinders you from communing with God.
http://lightworkers.org/
 
WHAT IS TO BECOME



What is to become of this fast changing society we live in today? Why is America crumbling economically so fast? What does the word globalization mean to you. It is the elite people, corperations, government officials favorite phrase. We are at the dawn of global everything. I believe this dawn will rise fast. What is happening to the American economy is Globalization. How you may say? This egineered economic collapse preceeds the agreement to join North America and Europe's economy. The global part is decieving. Europe has now postioned itself to have North Africa and the Middle East joined under their economic umbrella. Imagine an economy where these regions are one super economy. It is here. The Barcelona Process advanced this in the 90's. NAFTA and the ENP most reciently. That is just the economic side. I am sure the Government will follow the Money as well.

Militarily we are on a very similar path. George Bush said we are in the early stages of WWIII. Why would he say that? Maybe to advance a security age that is meant to monitor all in every way. That brings me back to globalization.

Computers probably contributed the most in advancing Globalization. Both socially and technically we have matured at a frightning rate over the last half century. Everything is so demanding of our time. We adapted. Microwaves, fast food, 2000 channels, gps so we know where to go and get there fast. Most of this comes in one form or the other from military spending. You have some idea of what the US military can do. You know like drop a bomb in your sun roof kinda thing. Imagine that and greater compacity being shared globally to our allies. Only its now an international community. Can any one tell me if global and international are the same? We built the GPS for our military. But like everything else it advanced society. We now can watch hurricanes form, help us prepare what to put on the next day due to weather. Never get lost. Its like everyone has caught up to James Bond. Whats the next step? Globalization you say. We bulit GPS, it worked Europe built galileo.(based ot of Spain) If we tie the two together, well you get the drift. What once was a small military alliance in NATO, has become some super future military. With all that military force matched up against the oil countries and China, I can see why Bush would militarily think we entered WWIII.

What is to become is this, all this was done by bildaburg elite and their super government figure Javier Solana. If you follow his path and listen to him, you can see the Globalization Dawn rising. It is interesting his last name means light, or sunshine. What is scary is his first name means savior. The United Nations,The World Banc, International Court, you can tie all aspects of this global society, including religion into these global mechanisms constructed to facilitate them.

Mylon
 
" ... Javier Solana, head of the EDA ... "


What isn't JS "head of" these days ?
 
Constance:

I also would appreciate your feedback regarding the credibility of the following:

There is much chatter on the Internet about an upcoming US NORTHCOM Exercise called, "Vigilant Shield 09" scheduled for November 12-18, 2008.

It was further pointed out that "military exercises" were also scheduled for the morning of September 11, 2001 when the World Trade Center was attacked and also the same day as the London bombings some years later.

(FYI: Also, I would rather be labeled "paranoid" and proven WRONG, than labeled "stable" and proved RIGHT.)
 
Re: military exercises (11/12-18):

It was further pointed out that since the cities of Houston, Chicago, Portland, Seattle and Phoenix have been "prepared" in prior exercises, they remeain "vulnerable."
 
On the US NOrth Com site:

http://www.northcom.mil/News/2008/110508.html

It says it will work in conjunction with Canada command: Operation Determined Dragon and others.

Where did you find any of the other information, anonymous, since Northcom's site has only the bare bones of info?
 
To leana:

Original article is at http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2008/10/65292.php
Vigilant Shield and Jokers Gone Wild
by Maj William Fox, Capt Eric May Wednesday, Oct. 15, 2008 at 12:08 PM

A Hot-Cold-Silent War False Flag Alert

In prior alerts, we felt it our public duty to identify strategic-scale disaster response exercises. These military style operations have an inherent potential to be covertly hijacked and turned into false flag operations. The 9-11-01 World Trade Center attacks and the 7-7-05 London subway bombings employed concurrent major exercises that "went live"!

Operation Vigilant Shield, running from Nov 12-18, 2008, is much too big to ignore, as it will link multiple concurrent exercises including USSTRATCOM Global Lightning 09, Bulwark Defender 09, Canada Command Determined Dragon, California National Guard Vigilant Guard, and State of California Golden Guardian . Unfortunately, according to USNORTHCOM, specific information about Vigilant Shield scenarios will not be available for weeks, permitting less time to analyze the situation.

Once an urban area has been designated an exercise target, that designation increases its odds of actually experiencing a future false flag attack. It takes considerable resources to corrupt an area, and false flag insiders like to get a return on investment. Since Houston , Chicago , Portland , Seattle , and Phoenix have already been "prepared" in prior exercises, they remain especially vulnerable. In addition, Vigilant Shield will probably add new areas in northern California to the potential target list.

NOTE:
Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer is a retired U.S. Air Force Command fighter pilot. Dr. James H. Fetzer and Major William B. Fox are former U.S. Marine Corps officers. Captain Eric H. May and Sergeant First Class Donald Buswell are former members of Army intelligence.
 
http://www.global-vision.net/facts/fact13_4.asp
 
"The energy is here" By Sally Quinn in regards to Obama. She then went on to say that she hadn't been this excited since the Kennedys arrived.
 
Lest we forget.

In the midst of all the discoveries made and opinions shared, it is important that we take the time to remember those who discerning evil and it's open as well as covert intents, rose up and abandoning concern for self and for comfort, let their lives count and be measured for future generations to blandly assume as their God given rights.

We may never enjoy such honouring and regard for our efforts. It is a grim possibility we will be labeled as misguided fools. Or worse as traitors to the 'Cause' of global unity. Some of us may yet be hunted down as parasites and vermin.
Let us remember those who died for our freedom. Who in seeing tyrants prevail in far off places, let their homes and valiantly defended others, who could not defend themselves.

I honour my father, a WWII veteran and all the men and women who responded to the call to defend against villiany.

They died to prevent the very thing happening today.

Sound the call! Awake the people.
Prepare the hearts to endure and overcome.

Lest we forget.


Primegood
 
Headlines on today's www.drudgereport.com

BUSH ANGER: OBAMA AIDES LEAK CHAT DETAILS

Just hours after President Bush and President-elect Obama met in the Oval Office of the White House, details of their confidential conversation began leaking out to the press, igniting anger from the president, sources claim.

"Senator Obama would be wise to keep close counsel," a top Bush source warned.

Supposedly, they were at odds over aid for the auto industry.

"Bush indicated at the meeting that he might support some aid and a broader economic stimulus package if Obama and congressional Democrats dropped their opposition to a free-trade agreement with Colombia,"

"Senator Obama may not be familiar with a long-standing tradition of presidents holding their private conversations, private," a senior adviser explained to the DRUDGE REPORT.
 
If one visits JS website, quite a few new docs about the EU growth in various areas, and a new statement from Nov 9 by the quartet regarding the mideast peace3 progress.
 
Ok!

It's time to get into this CANUS thing.
That there is a sense in Canada that the two countries are worlds apart politically and socially is probably not obvious to most americans.
Unless you follow Canadian News sources, it's unlikely you would get the feeling of crass superiority many Canadians have smugly proclaimed as policies of the Bush administration have unfolded.
As a Canadian, I have often felt chagrined and even ashamed as I have read comments and op-eds by fellow Canadian writers.
Even as the 'financial crisis' was developing, the widely believed Canadian opinion was "it won't affect us".

In matters of military significance Canadians imagine themselves (ourselves) as morally superior and somehow immune from the potential for terrorist problems. We suppose our immigration policies to be enlightened, and our politicians above corruption, despite repeated proofs to the contrary.

In the matter of our military and our national sovereignty, we are hopelessly ignorant.
Most Canadians (and likely most US citizens) don't know and aren't aware that agreements exist which grant authority to the other's military to install troops and military apparatus on their respective soil.

These agreements, in place for some considerable time have undergone numerous refinements and name changes, but can be found with some searching.

CAP, BPG, CDP and CANUS are a few such acronyms in use.

I am working on a piece to be posted soon to my blog "Sic Transit Gloria Mundi" Dealing in detail with the nuts and bolts of these agreements.

Here is a preliminary look at a few salient features of the agreements.
My analysis will examine each of them and offer opinions as to what they mean to Canadians and Americans.
That this agreement may well be the foundational framework for the military and security aspect of a broader North American Union which will ultimately (no far off future!!) include Mexico as well, will be the focus of my piece.

Here then are the broad tenets of the agreement

UNITED STATES
1. Champion aspirations for human dignity
2. Strengthen alliances:
a. Defeat global terrorism
b. Prevent attacks
3. Partner to defuse regional conflicts
4. Prevent threats of WMD
5. Ignite global economic growth
6. Expand democratic development action
7. Transform security institutions

– National Security Strategy for the United States of America,
September 2002


CANADA

1. Protect Canada and Canadians at home and abroad
2. Ensure Canada is not a base for threats to allies
3. Contribute to international security
4. Measures:
5. Build and (sic) Integrated Security System
a. Threat Assessment
b. Protection and Prevention
c. Consequence management
6. Increase intercollection capabilities
7. Marine security cooperation with US
8. Build on Smart Border Agreement

– Securing an Open Society: Canada’s National Security Policy, April 2004

Several items under the US details are very interesting when considered from the potential for abuse under a possible 'false flag' endeavor. In fact the whole of the outline seems to imply a movement towards a complete dissolution of any kind of real border between the two countries and harbors on a merger of the two.

That such a merger would likely entail the US expecting supremacy in the outcome is commonsense. 300 million vs 30 million is not hard to weigh.

Considering the scheduled exercises this week, which according to published accounts include Canada, my question, is will 'normal' control of Canadian airspace be qualitaively abrogated so US planes can fly exercises overhead?

Will Canada's ability to respond to 'real' threats be diminished because we are 'standing down' while 'fantasy' scenarios are run?

And of course vice versa.

And last but not least, does Osama Bin Ladin possess PROMIS software (or it's successor) enabling Al Quaida to 'know' precisly what and where to strike?

As I attended Remberance Day services today I found myself wondering whether next year instead of the Canadian Colours being hoisted would we see the 'Stars & Stripes' or perhaps the "10 Circled Stars".

Primegood
 
CUBAN PRESIDENT TO VISIT RUSSIA, ALLIANCE GROWS

http://tinyurl.com/63fvry
 
Primegood, don't know if it is relevant, or important, but several weeks ago, remember reading that the EU and Canada had just signed a security cooperation agreement of some sort.
 
The lamps are going out all over the world.
 
Interview with Richard Haass, CFR President,re: the testing of Obama-
"If history is a guide, Obama will face early tests from abroad as president, either from leaders seeking to gauge his mettle, or from surprise events."

"Bush was challenged early in his presidency when a U.S. spy plane collided with a Chinese military jet and crash-landed on Chinese territory. President Clinton's first year saw the 1993 bombing of New York's World Trade Center and the deaths of 18 U.S. soldiers in Mogadishu, Somalia."

"While foreign leaders may or may not choose to test Obama, "the one thing I'm sure of is, events will test him," Haass said. "There will be coups. ... There will be genocide. ... There will be terrorism." "

Link-
http://tinyurl.com/57xnlr

Genocide? Hmmm...interesting choice of words, Mr. Haass.

-SV
 
Gerald Celente's predicts Obama's impact to lead to the following:
*By 2012 America will be the first "Undeveloped Nation of the World" ["Obama's slogan says: 'Yes we can!', we're saying 'No we can't!'"]
*There will be a "tax revolution, marked by food riots, squatter rebellions. tax revolts, and job marches"
*By then, the Holidays will be about getting food, not gifts, as the priority."We're going to see a 'fundamental shift' take place where people are no longer going to be doing the Christmas shopping they used to do...We're going to go into [a depression] worse than the 'Great Depression'.

YouTube from FoxBusiness.com-
http://tinyurl.com/6ncxzo

"Now concerning the times and the seasons, brothers,you have no need to have anything written to you.
For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, "There is peace and security," then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
But you are not in darkness, brothers, for that day to surprise you like a thief.
For you are all children of light, children of the day. We are not of the night or of the darkness.
So then let us not sleep, as others do, but let us keep awake and be sober."
-1 Thessalonians 5:1-6

Onward Christian Soldiers!
-SV
 
http://tinyurl.com/6rlq7c
If you think nothing you can do will affect things, you need to read this story. Michael Malone who usually writes a column on technical matters wrote a column on media bias, never expecting what happened. As a result some major news sources finally began to admit they had been biased in their Obama stories. Read the entire thing and decide to make a difference.
 
From www.drudgereport.com

SICK SURVEILLANCE: GOOGLE REPORTS FLU SEARCHES, LOCATIONS TO FEDS
Tue Nov 11 2008 15:34:50 ET

GOOGLE will launch a new tool that will help federal officials "track sickness".

"Flu Trends" uses search terms that people put into the web giant to figure out where influenza is heating up, and will notify the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in real time!

GOOGLE, continuing to work closely with government, claims it would keep individual user data confidential: "GOOGLE FLU TRENDS can never be used to identify individual users because we rely on anonymized, aggregated counts of how often certain search queries occur each week."

Engineers will capture keywords and phrases related to the flu, including thermometer, flu symptoms, muscle aches, chest congestion and others.

Dr. Lyn Finelli, chief of influenza surveillance at CDC: "One thing we found last year when we validated this model is it tended to predict surveillance data. The data are really, really timely. They were able to tell us on a day-to-day basis the relative direction of flu activity for a given area. They were about a week ahead of us. They could be used... as early warning signal for flu activity."

Thomas Malone, professor at M.I.T.: "I think we are just scratching the surface of what's possible with collective intelligence."

Eric Schmidt, GOOGLE's chief executive vows: "From a technological perspective, it is the beginning."

Developing...
 
New comments on suicide thread.
 
What's the point in having "secret" code names (issued to the Obama family) if the media publishes them for all to see?

Barack - "Renegade"
Michelle - "Renaissance"
Malia - "Radiance"
Sasha - "Rosebud"
 
SV,

I'm grateful you put that quote from 1 Thessalonians. This puts a lot of what's happening back into the perspective that what we are seeing is God's plans unfolding. Sarah Palin had said at one point that the election was in God's hands. She was the only major candidate to bring a sense of Christian faith to the election. I have to admire that.

I am definitely praying that Obama is not under the influence of the Antichrist and is not the False Prophet. I remain uneasy, though. Has he met with Solana previously? Any previous encounters? I'll be checking this out on the Internet. Why do I think of "Revenge of the Sith" from Star Wars when Anakin Skywalker becomes the dreaded Darth Vader?

I know, I haven't posted in a long time, but I still read along.

David in Battle Creek
 
Just adding to what Rudi and Sarah posted previously re: "voluntary/compulsory" civil service planning. This is audio with Rahm Emanuel discussing the "Plan".

"As a follow up to my previous post on the media blowing off President-elect Barack Obama's conscription plan(which seems to be disappearing from the Obama transition team's site among many other agenda items, as Newsbuster Tom Blumer has discovered), Naked Emperor News has found some interesting audio of Rahm Emanuel, Obama's Chief of Staff appointee, talking to NY Daily News reporter Ben Smith in 2006 about his mandatory civil service plan. The idea was detailed in Emanuel's co-authored book, The Plan." -author Kerry Picket, NewBusters,11/11/08.
LINK TO AUDIO-
http://tinyurl.com/5oj2ej

-SV
 
THANKS TO TED TURNER

This may get a wee bit long but try to follow as I want opinions on this. I was watching Lou Dobbs on CNN tonight, he had as a guest Ted Turner on his program. I watched due to the fact that a half crazy Ted Turner is not only good for a laugh, but he is extremely NA and often lets things slip out of his mouth that are valuble to us. As is the case with many of Dobb's guests, the talk turned to immigration reform, then subsequently to beefing up the border fences. To which crazy Ted replied "I don't like walls. I think we need a world with out walls where people can go back and forth if they want to."
This one statement triggered an immediate response in me. A wall in old days was used for the border of a kingdom, to keep invading armies out. In most cases now though borders are not actual walls, just geographical locations where one land ends and another begins. In most countries currently, these walls or borders are not allowed to be crossed without permission. This however is not the case with the EU, as borders literally mean next to nothing there and people are being allowed to move freely within other countries in the union. Now recently we have seen the Union for the Mediterranean arise. Assuming this union follows the same path as the one in Europe, we could expect to see open borders established within the union. We know in the last days there will be a land of towns without walls as described in Ezekiel 38, that Gog and other armies come against. My question then is, are we currently seeing the end of walled nations? Has any one heard or seen when and if this Union for the Mediterranean is to go borderless? I would suspect it to be within the next year and a half. This could also be a major component of the peace process. All of which if done through the Union would still fall under the 7 year treaty. I also wonder if the open borders may be what leads to the undoing of peace in the region? I would like others take on this, as while it is only a opinion and speculative at that, I would still like to know how others see this in regards to fulfillment. I am posting a link to the transcripts if any one cares to see it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0811/11/ldt.01.html

JD
 
To JD (@ 12:05 AM):

From WEBWIRE (Oct. 9, 2007) --
Los Angeles, CA (Oct. 10, 2007):

Speaking on the Larry King show, former Mexican President Vicente Fox confirmed every assertion made by Jerome Corsi in his new book, NY Times bestseller "The Late Great U.S.A: The Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada."

Not only did Fox admit that he and George W. Bush have "agreed" to create a common currency, the Amero, he contended that a North American Union is "inevitable."

Corsi continues, "Fox’s appearance with Larry King and, of all places, on The Daily Show constitutes the first time a leader of Mexico, Canada or the U.S. has openly confirmed a plan to create a regional currency called the Amero -- a plan I document in detail in ’The Late Great U.S.A.’"

Fox went on to explain how current regional trade agreements between the United States and its hopelessly corrupt neighbor to the south are intended to evolve into other previously hidden aspects of North American integration.

As reported in WorldNetDaily, Larry King, near the end of the broadcast, asked Fox a question e-mailed from a listener: "I would like to know how you feel about the possibility of having a Latin America united with one currency."

Fox answered in the affirmative, admitting he and George W. Bush had "agreed" to pursue the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas – a free-trade zone extending throughout the Western Hemisphere – and that part of the plan was to institute a regional currency from Canada to the tip of South America!

"Long term, very long term" he said. "What we proposed together, President Bush and myself, it’s ALCA, which is a trade union for all the Americas."

According to Corsi, Fox has indeed performed a public service. "George W. Bush is president of the United States, not king. He has utterly no right to enter into any such (secret) agreement with a foreign country, particularly a hostile one."
 
FYI:

"ACLA" is the Spanish term for our "FTAA" (Free Trade Agreement).


Also, former Canadian Prime Minister, Paul Martin was in on that secret meeting with George W. Bush and former President of Mexico, Vicente Fox - which took place in Waco, Texas in 2005.
 
March 23, 2005 - to be exact!!!
(when this secret meeting took place in Waco, Texas).
 
Info on the NAU - its inception, its conception are realtively easy to find.
I have copies of the paperwork that was signed by the 3 leaders back in 2001 or 2 - I think it was, would need to look to verify.
This one is a done deal and the laws of all 3 countries have been and are being "tweaked" so as not to interfere with each other and meld smoothly - it was a job the Rumsfeld was given after he left his post.

DouginMI
 
To DouginMi (7:24 AM):

Even though this information is "relatively easy to find" -- it's really tragic that we Americans have to do our own research, since our own government continues to officially deny that PLANS for a North American Union or a new currency (the Amero) even EXIST!!!

I hate to use the word "Shadow Government" -- but what else would you call it?
 
So far, I've found no previous meetings between Obama and Solana. When that day comes, note the storm clouds that gather or tremors in the Earth. It's almost the opposite of the day John the Baptist met Jesus.

David in Battle Creek
 
SV 5:15 said
"President Clinton's first year saw the 1993 bombing of New York's World Trade Center"

I believe this happened in Bush Jr.'s first year not Clinton's.

Shalom,
Barb
 
Never mind, I'm thinking about the NYC twin towers not bombings -
Barb
 
Anon 6:12, DouginMi,

Unfortunately, I am all to familiar with the interviews of Fox that you eluded too. While I believe there will be a NAU, if were not already in it without them telling us. My question posed, was meant to be about the situation within the Med. I am wondering if the Mediterranean goes borderless and peace is reached as a direct result of the union. If every one would see this as an acurate fulfillment of prophecy? I ask because peace would be the direct result of a 7 year treaty although not a specific peace treaty as many still expect. It would make Israel a land without walls, enabling Gog to take their place. Many other prophecies such as the coalition of nations and the destruction of Damascus become all the more probable as well. So again the question, if it happens this way will everyone accept it as fulfillment or will they still cling to their ideas of how it should be fulfilled?

JD
 
Saudi's plan Biggest Fence in the World!

"With a forecasted $20 billion 2009-2018 cumulative market, the Saudi Arabia ’s border fence market is larger than the U.S./Mexican & U.S./Canadian border fence markets combined. It is, in fact, the largest border fence market in the world! Since the Kingdom is presently updating and upgrading its plans and contracts, new market entry opportunities are continuously created for a wide variety of civil engineering, technology and service suppliers.

Saudi borders with Yemen and Iraq - Business Opportunities in Border & Perimeter Protection: Combined Use of Physical Barriers, Electronic Fences, Electronic Surveillance and C3 systems


The Saudi's plan a fence along their northern borders with Iraq and with Yemen to the south.

Saudi Security Fence Project

It's all about the Money!

Primegood
 
These guys seem to be ground floor

"Homeland Security Research Corporation is a multidisciplinary team of industry experts representing expertise in the fields of Homeland Security engineering, intelligence, high-tech market analysis, airport security, and Homeland Security Technologies R&D.
Homeland Security Research Corporation | 601 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW | Washington | DC | 20004 | Tel: 1-877-778-6413"

Who knew "Homeland Security" meant other than USA?

The Saudi HS Market is estimated at $115 Billion over next decade.

Their fence will cost $40 Billion and will be "virtual/real".

Ted Turner must be fuming!

Primegood
 
Dear Constance and All,

Have any of you seen any of these articles? They are posted on Carrie Tomko's site.

http://www.carrietomko.blogspot.com/
_________________________________

MICHIGAN LIBERALS ATTACK LANSING CONGREGATION IN THE MIDDLE OF SUNDAY WORSHIP

http://tinyurl.com/6gx69e
________________________________

GAY RIGHTS GROUP CLAIMS RESPONSIBILITY FOR CHURCH PROTEST

http://tinyurl.com/6956xp
________________________________

POST AMENDMENT HARRASSMENT CONTINUES OVER MARRIAGE AMENDMENT

http://tinyurl.com/6hv4l4
________________________________

Apparently these critters from the gay community only respect the "will of the people" when the vote is in their favor.

It has come to my attention that one of the big reasons why Prop.8 passed in California was because the word got out about the haste with which the gay community and their supporters were beginning to brainwash children in the public schools into believing that gay activity was "normal" - whether this violated the religious beliefs of the children and their families or not.
 
JD -
I think it wil a it is today - some except what they see only in actual physical evidence, some with a bit of speculation - some will percieve it as a direct fulfillment - the only thing that will let us understand if it is a true fulfillment - is time.
My personal view -

Shadow government - why would you not like to use that term? If it is correct - use it.
We (and many others) have been victims of the shadow governemnt here in this country for many - many years now. the sheeple are just too blind to even care about it.
It does not matter what evidence you present to them - they do not accept it. After documenting these and many more issues, you can just about name all of them (so varied I do not want to bore anyone) for almost 25 years now - yes, I can speak on this subject with good perception.
I just let - once again - time take care of it and let it prove itself out as fact.
Then - those who say - never and no way - come back and ask - so now what?
Keep up the good fight - it is what we are supposed to do.

Hebrews 13:6
"So that we may boldly say, the Lord is my helper, I will not fear, what can man do to me?"

My fav - and what I live by.

DouginMI
 
JD - I think it will be as it is today -
spell check should be my friend -

DouginMI
 
To Susanna (12:01)

Re: Proposition 8 being passed in Cslifornia --

Also, it is my understanding that the Mormom church put up a lot of money for this.
 
Hi Susanna,
I greatly appreciate Carrie and read her blog and comments daily.
Have you read the account about the Proposition 8 protesters surrounding
this cross carrying elderly woman?
A reporter is attempting to interview the woman over the shouting protesters who knocked the cross from her hands and stomped it into the ground. Thank God the
San Francisco State University College Republicans' have preserved the video on their website.
-Rudi

http://tinyurl.com/57c8mt

http://www.lifesitenews.com/
ldn/2008/nov/
08111010.html
 
Primegood,

Wow thats a lot of fence, Crazy Uncle Ted must be fuming! (lol) After looking a bit closer at the site you linked, this appears to be a company profiteering off all sides of the terrorism issue. While it is not our Dept. of Homeland Security, it appears this company works with them along with several other nations. This raises further concerns in me about the true nature of the terrorism issue. I find it difficult to swallow that if our country is worried about threats from foreign lands, then why in turn would they hire companies who operate for profit within countries where terrorism is sponsored such as Saudi Arabia. This one inconsitency has irked me as the media has shown how terrorists are trained in countries that we may have a reason to make war with, while it largely ignores the fact that this is also common in areas that are supposed to be allies. Something stinks about the "War on Terror" and I am not reffering to the conspiracy minded propaganda that is out there, just our vast inconsitencies in the way this particular "war" is operated.

The only real tangible thing that has come from this war on terror is further division between Muslim, Jews, and Christians and an attempt to label all people of the Abrahamic faiths as extremists. I believe we may have been played here and suspect it won't be long until this war turns on Jews and Christians as well. While there are people who do extreme things in the name of their faith, there is evidence that this type of behavior is being spun to further the goals of those who wish to control the planet. How much of this is of the contrived variety? How much of this is designed to seperate the opposition to their plan only to have a reason to silence them? These inconsitencies in the official story point out deception. It is happening at home as well, with our police departments silencing opposition. Look at the riot that happened during the DNC. There were under cover cops within the crowd that helped to spin the protests out of control.

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_10920817

Furthe digging into these subjects just brings up more inconsitencies with the story being told to the public. People look at the Patriot Act and can see where this document will take us, but fail to see any issue with why the document was created to begin with(or at least why we were told it was created) If this document is as nefarious as people say ( I have read it in full, it is) then the official story behind it must be looked at with very speculative eyes. Everything at this point MUST be questioned.

JD
 
Contest: Opinion article competition for graduate, and under-graduate, students on what global governance will look like in 2020:

http://atlantic-community.org/index/articles/view/Op-Ed_Competition%3A_Global_Governance_in_2020
 
That a 375 page book could sell for $4950.00 as advertised on HSRC's website suggests the 'players' are well heeled.

To 'invest' in this kind of intelligence means someone expects to made a ton of money and yes from both sides.

I'm trying to uncover background on it's author and spokeman Doron Pely.

It's just one of several books advertised there.
How about:

U.S. & EU HLS Communications Interoperability Markets & Technology Forecast - 2008-2012 Publication: 12/2007, Pages: 165 Figures: 35, Tables: 39, Price: $4,950.00

There are fortunes being made through develpments in Homeland Security technology. No wonder Halliburton and Lougheed (Both Cheney controlled) are hot to trot.

Primegood
 
HSRC:

Doron Pely
VP Publications and Editor-in-Chief

Mr. Pely is a former police intelligence officer and a retired lieutenant with the Israeli army. He is also a veteran competitive intelligence manager, with years of experience in delivering time-critical information and analysis to decision makers in the telecom industry.

Mr. Pely has worked as an R&D software engineer on several pioneering high-tech projects. He was the editor of Israel's first computer magazine and is the author of three books, published in the US and Israel.

Mr. Pely holds a BSc. in Computer Science

The other 2 company principals are also Israeli expats, with extensive technical and counter-terroism backgrounds.
Dan Inbar &
Tomer Amit
Friends of Rahm's Father maybe?

Did KBR avail themselves of HSRC techonolgy reports while constructing the (wink, wink, nudge, nudge), - "Community Centers"?

Primegood
 
http://www.earthrainbownetwork.com/Archives2008/RisingPhoenix44.htm

New Age sight says there is a big power shift going on...paradigm?

Accidentally found site as I was looking for Gordon Brown who according to a businessman on Bloomberg TV is a rising Phoenix. Really!

Show was on yesterday around 4:20 a.m. Brown was interviewed first.

Maggie
 
When NATO went into Afghanistan it was crossing the Rubicon.

We are trying to get AFRICOM going to go into Africa expect Obama to support fully. Long story, but worth a read.

Maggie
 
Dr. Solana's EULEX mission in Iraq receives prestigious award:

http://www.consilium.europa.eu/ueDocs/cms_Data/docs/pressData/en/esdp/104020.pdf
 
Warning

Don't stare at the hypnotic animation at the bottom of the page maggie referenced.

Primegood
 
More bad news on my transportation front. My insurance company wants to "total out" the car and probably try to cheat me on its value. The car is a 1998 Toyota Corolla and has been 100% reliable with few repair and maintenance costs. We had full coverage on vehicle. I'm praying about this and finding another vehicle. One way I have been able to maintain my work is because I was able to keep my transportation costs to a minimum. The car also got 35 miles per gallon on highway and 30 in town.

Any ideas would be appreciated. My car was free and clear and I like to keep it that way -- about only way I can manage is to own a reliable car with good mileage free and clear.

Constance
 
Hi Rudi,

I am a regular regular reader of Carrie's blog and greatly appreciate Carrie myself.

Thanks for reminding me about that video of Proposition 8 protestors in California surrounding the woman holding a cross. There is so much going on that I had nearly forgotten about that one.

What kills me is that if the vote had gone the other way on Proposition 8, the "will of the people" would have been the mantra du jour and protesters would have been accused of "hate speech" and/or "hate crimes."

IMHO, the thing that clinched the vote in favor of Proposition 8 was the predatory homosexual obsession with brainwashing children into thinking that homosexual perversions are "normal."

This has been done in public schools as early as kindergarten here in Massachusetts in violation of the state Parental Notification Law.

As you probably know, gay marriage was imposed on the people of Massachusetts by judicial fiat.

We are still hoping that we will be able to vote in an amendment to our state constitution banning gay marriage.

In the meantime, here is the latest on the David Parker case.

http://tinyurl.com/62q4jq

ROB AND ROBIN WIRTHLIN'S STORY

http://www.protectmarriage.com/video/view/6
____________________________

Massachusetts had important role in marriage ballot questions across America. Homosexual activists threaten violence in California over results.

http://tinyurl.com/5ef746
 
MANDATORY CIVIL SERVICE PLAN

In a 2006 interview with Ben Smith of the NY Daily News, Rahm Emanuel, who will be Barack Obama's White House chief of staff, laughed at Smith's concerns about how far-reaching a mandatory civil-service plan would be.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=e4qG6UIr8z

Dorothy
 
To Anonymous 12:41,

It is true that the Mormon Church put up a lot of money with a view to the passage of Proposition 8. But they are not the only religious group who supported the amendment.

It was also reported that African Americans and Latinos were a key factor in the passage of Proposition 8.
___________________________

70% OF AFRICAN AMERICANS BACKED PROP. 8, EXIT POLL FINDS

http://tinyurl.com/5vfvb6
 
Hi JD,
You were asking for opinions in your 12:05 AM comment. You may find at least partial answers to your questions as you go through some of the following links. IMHO
it is anyone’s guess at this point to what degree there will be open borders between the countries that make up the Union for the Mediterranean. The freedom with which people will travel between them will most likely be
determined by the amount of
ambient surveillance in place.
In your comment you wrote,
“This however is not the case
with the EU, as borders
literally mean next to nothing there and people are being
allowed to move freely within
other countries in the union.”
I do hope one of our commenter's who live in the EU will address this, from a personal standpoint, but the way I interpret the "free movement" is, citizens of the EU move “freely” but only because there is so much internal surveillance in place with-in
it’s borders. The ONLY way I
can imagine Ted Turner’s
“…world with out walls where people can go back and forth if they want to." will happen, would require totally ambient surveillance-
which will be the identifying
"mark of the beast" …which in my humble opinion may be right around the corner. –Rudi
Check out the following:

Security and Tracking
Trend 11: Top 12 Areas for Innovation to 2025

http://tinyurl.com/6kql9y

http://www.socialtechnologies.com
/FileView.aspx?fileName=
PressRelease03142008.pdf
*********************************************************************************

The following are several links you may find helpful. The first is a “must read”.

**Barcelona Process: Union for the Mediterranean ministerial conference – Final declaration¹ This is current (last week) and includes a ton of information.

http://tinyurl.com/5jh2jl

http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/
Barcelona-Process-Union-for-the.html
**********************************************************************************
If you specifically want to know more about borders and border security do a search about FRONTEX and RApid Border Intervention Teams (RABIT). Here is one link.

http://tinyurl.com/5ttmux

http://www.euractiv.com/
en/security/rabit-run-eu-border-
patrols/article-163429
********************************************************************************

“EU: CCTV (Closed circuit tv) surveillance growing fast in Europe” (2004)

http://tinyurl.com/5v3tmp

http://www.epractice.eu/document/
1201
****************************

**This is an example about the latest technology being used by law enforcement in the U.S. to record and identify license plate data:

http://tinyurl.com/5sefto

******************************************************************
A Report on the Surveillance Society (2006)

http://tinyurl.com/6jp2m9

http://www.privacyconference2006.
co.uk/files/discussion_eng.pdf
**********************************************************************
Here is a “background” piece on “The Union for the Mediterranean”

http://tinyurl.com/5eecsa

http://www.barcelona.com/b
arcelona_news/
the_union_for_the_mediterranean
 
Hi again Oldmanoftheski,
I can't help it, I want readers to see your last two comments in the
"Saturday, November 08, 2008
"Men's hearts failing them for fear" -- brought home in a very real way"
Astounding! Check them out guys and gals. -Rudi
 
More on the church assault in Lansing Michigan from American Thinker:

November 11, 2008

WORSHIPPERS IN LANSING MI ASSAULTED
BY LIBERAL ACTIVISTS

Rick Moran
Suppose you were sitting in church one Sunday peacefully minding your own business, praying that God grant our new president the wisdom to do what is right when suddenly, the sanctity of the church is violated in the most horrific way by vandals, thugs, and screaming lunatics.

This is what happened at a small church in Lansing, MI called Mount Hope. From the blog Right Michigan:


Mount Hope, for the record, is an evangelical, bible believing church whose members provide free 24 hour counseling, prayer lines, catastrophic care for families dealing with medical emergencies, support groups for men, women and children dealing with a wide variety of life's troubles, crisis intervention, marriage ministries, regular, organized volunteer work in and around the city, missions in dozens of countries across the globe, a construction ministry that has built over 100 churches, schools, orphanages and other projects all over the world and an in-depth prison ministry that reaches out, touches and helps the men and women the rest of society fears the most. They also teach respect for all human life and the Biblical sanctity of marriage as an institution between one man and one woman.


What followed is like something out of the annals of Solzhenitsyn or some other account of bigotry directed against religion:
.....read more.....

http://tinyurl.com/5uayjz
 
You've probably all seen this but...:

http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/a065a279-3822-409a-86d5-be26459da5c3

"Obama seems to be behaving differently already on the middle east -

November 11, 2008

Obama Adviser Who Met With Hamas Is Back
Six months ago Obama's foreign-policy adviser, Robert Malley, resigned from the campaign. The resignation was due to Times of London reporting that Malley had been meeting privately with Hamas leaders on a regular basis - something that Obama had publicly pledged not to do.

Now it appears Malley is back

History will record that Barack Obama’s first act of diplomacy as America’s president-elect took place two days after his election victory, when he dispatched his senior foreign-policy adviser, Robert Malley, to meet with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad—to outline for them the forthcoming administration’s Mideast policy vis-à-vis those nations.
An aide to Malley reports, “The tenor of the messages was that the Obama administration would take into greater account Egyptian and Syrian interests” than has President Bush.[...]"

Also, this in Haaretz.com:


"The Arab daily Al-Hayat on Tuesday quoted a senior Hamas official as saying that United States President-elect Barack Obama's advisors met with members of the Palestinian militant group before the U.S. presidential election.

Ahmed Yusuf, a political advisor to Hamas' Gaza leader Ismail Haniyeh, reportedly told the London-based paper that, "The connection was made via email and after that we met with them in Gaza."

Al-Hayat reported that Yusuf also said the relations were maintained after Obama's electoral victory last Tuesday. He said the president-elect's advisors requested that the relations be kept secret so as not to aid his rival, Senator John McCain."

Change you can believe in

Deannie
 
Constance, praying for you re. your car/transportation situation.
 
Just a thought re. your car, Constance. If you get a decent settlement from your insurance co., go onto Craig's List for your area and do a search under "For Sale," "Cars&Trucks" with "Corolla, original, owner." It is easier to trace the upkeep on a used car with an original owner. It might be a little difficult (due to Toyotas presently coveted good gas mileage), but perhaps "worth a shot." Then have a reputable mechanic check it out before purchasing.
 
My first and most important political jobs were in Lansing, Michigan. I'm going to see if I can get somebody from Mt. Hope to talk about it on my radio program tomorrow night.

Constance
 
Susanna @ 5:55 and Anon @ 12:41

I had read this earlier regarding Calif and Prop 8...there is even some consideration that the huge turnout for Obama actually helped to pass Prop 8.

I doubt they'll take it to him, tho'...

http://tinyurl.com/5fht9o
 
American Humanist Association unveils a $40,000 "Holiday Ad" to run on D.C. buses through December:
"Why Believe In A God? Just Be Good For Goodness' Sake."

Link to AP.Google.com Article-
http://tinyurl.com/63oz6q

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" Isa 5:20


-SV
 
Rudi,

Thanks for the input, and this actually was the type of nation without walls that I was eluding to. I am familiar with the extra surveilence steps taken by Europe involving their open borders. These same systems have been a large reason why they are pushing RFID cards as it would be easier to monitor border traffic. I also suspect it is the reason they have made it mandatory for all new immigrants. As can be seen in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY24bdKzocM

Granted we are a little bit off yet of seeing this on massive mandatory scales. However, how long will it be before this is turned into a racial issue, ie saying only immigrants have to have them and not citizens? This inevitably will lead to mandatory chips for the public. How many of these expensive cards will be lost or stolen before they turn to the implant? At the exponential rate which events are now occuring, this could be mandatory for all by mid 2010, or given some sort of terrorist attack could be sooner. I believe the point of my previous post may have gotten lost in the technicalities as what I was attempting to state was we are only a couple of events from seeing the entire scope of prophecy within our view. Any catalyzing event (which thanks to Powell, Biden and Obama most of us are now expecting imminently) could trigger a chain reaction in which every missing piece of this puzzle could fall into place. Yet many are still looking for treaties to be signed or other events that may already be happening. While I still believee it to be pertinent when watching the events of the day to see who,how, and what fits where. There are many who have over looked some things which may yet prove important. Borderless systems could very well be a vital part of prophecy, just as much as the Barcelona Process or the ENP. Security is propably the biggest link in this chain. It is the "reason" we are now starting to be branded as extremists. It is why there is a stronger push for peace in Israel than any other generation has seen. If we follow the path this "security" leads us down, the missing components not only become obvious, we see exactly how close we are to fulfillment of His promise.

This reminds me of something I heard recently.You wake up in the middle of the night, you can't see any thing then you notice the power is out, the baby is crying, and the waters boiling, which issue do we address first? Your answer should be all of the above because the house is on fire! Many are just at the point of waking up and can only see the couple of issues that are presenting themselves currently. Many are still clueless to the fire because they haven't seen it or its origins. Yes there is a peace process currently being pushed in Israel, but Annapolis was not the begining of it. Yes there is a movement towards globalization, but the union for the Med, nor the yet to be established NAU were not the begining of this. Nor were the EU, Barcelona Process or ENP the begining, they just happen to be where the global tree began to produce fruit. If one simply looks at these as jumping off points though, they can not only trace the trees roots, but can see every other foul piece the tree has produced. They will also find that everything they are seeing today that has their alarms sounding is a direct result of one of these things. Once one has a vast comprhension of the tree, they can see what it has produced to date. Using previous years as a model one can also safely forcast the trees production for the coming year. From my calculations the crop will be huge.

JD
 
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