Saturday, November 08, 2008

Barack Obama's Youth Movement - Ominous Parallels?

There is much internet chatter these days about proposed compulsory service programs. Barack Obama proposes one plan with 50 compulsory hours as a condition of high school graduation. His to be Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel proposes a somewhat longer period for adults between 18 and 26 with boot camp, civil defense training, etc. While I do not think such things, IF VOLUNTARY (or even with college tuition reductions) are necessarily bad in and of themselves, there are historical precedents which reveal OMINOUS PARALLELS. I wrote of such in my 1983 released book, The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow. Today, I found a lively discussion of same over at the RaptureReady website. Here is a telling quote which speaks of Hitler's planned youth programs. I did not find the Rapture Ready participant's source for this, but my own research over the years has shown this to be the case:

My program for educating youth is hard. Weakness must be hammered away. In my castles of the Teutonic Order a youth will grow up before which the world will tremble. I want a brutal, domineering, fearless, cruel youth. Youth must be all that. It must bear pain. There must be nothing weak and gentle about it. The free, splendid beast of prey must once again flash from its eyes . . . That is how I will eradicate thousands of years of human domestication . . . That is how I will create the New Order." -- Adolf Hitler, 1933.

Before the Nazi Party was founded, a strong youth movement already existed in Germany. It began in the 1890s and was known as the Wandervögel, a male-only movement featuring a back-to-nature theme. Wandervögel members had an idealistic, romantic notion of the past, yearning for simpler days when people lived off the land. They rejected the modern, big city era and took a dim view of its predecessor, the industrial revolution, which had been started by their fathers and grandfathers. They scorned greed and materialism, and the new emerging corporate mentality. They found strict German schooling oppressive and rejected parental authority. They saw hypocrisy in politics and the social class system of Kaiser Wilhelm's Germany, which was based entirely on birth and accumulated wealth. Instead, they longed for a Jugendkultur, a culture of youth led by youth, in which they would be truly valued. They wanted something greater to believe in than the values of their parents. Wandervögel members distinguished themselves by wearing shorts and hiking boots rather than the starched shirts and creased trousers of the middle class. They delighted in rediscovering nature without any modern conveniences, traveling on hikes and sleeping out under the stars. They sang old German folk songs around the campfire and also developed a custom of greeting each other by saying "Heil." The Catholic Youth Organization, the Boy Scouts, along with a variety of political, religious, para-military, and sports groups
sprang up, organized so that youth was indeed led by youth, with the leader being just a few years older than the boys he led."
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar...beginnings.htm

This is like the beginning of the Nazi's!!!

1) Target the children!

2) Convince the children and the parents, this is for za Fazerland! (phonetic)

3) Forced labor children resent children that aren’t forced or unable to participate

4) Children, full of resentment, start to see disabled children as a useless burden to society. "Why should I do this work, and they don’t have to?"

The slaughter of human beings in Germany, did not begin in the camps, but in what they called then "asylums". Where the neat tidy German people, put others that were disabled in any way or form. The Nazi's began their testing of the most efficient way to kill people, in these asylums. They killed them. When family members showed up to visit, and their loved ones were gone, they would explain that they had "eased their loved ones of their suffering", and eased them of "their burden". Little Nazi’s grow into big Nazi’s….

The Nazi horror is a lesson that must never be forgotten. Too many of our young people know little or nothing about that era.

Stay tuned.

Constance
Comments:
He is not the President yet. The Electoral College has to vote in December, and Berg's lawsuit, and others are still alive. There are F.O.I.A requests in the works also.
I'm telling you all this is not over yet.

HK
 
I may take some heat for this, I care not if I do.

HE IS NOT NOR WILL HE EVER, NEVER EVER BE MY PRESIDENT. PERIOD END OF STORY!!!

HK
 
Berg's lawsuit, in my opinion, was Hillary Clinton instigated and is going nowhere. The Electoral College will undoubtedly vote as their states did.

Constance
 
There was a song we used to sing when i was small.

It went like this.

"I love to go a wandering, along the mountain tracks. And as I go I love to sing, My knap sack on my back" Val der ee, Val der ah, Val der ee, Val der ah ha ha ha ha ha ha" .

I vauguely remember this song as being german in roots. I suspect this was a rallying song.

The requirements for service is the bootstrapped strategy to overwhelm resistance. (US!)

Any who refuse become identified and labeled for consequential handling.

Pastors in America are being required to accept FEMA programming to identify dissenters, and to turn them over to FEMA.

Primegood
 
I found this a wee interesting. It doesn't have anything to do with BO, but it still caught my eyes. In the online edition of the Manila Bulletin, there is a story about Philipino Muslims asking the Pope to help get peace negotiations back on track between the government and Mindanoa's Moslems. I would copy and paste, except I am at the public library, and for some reason the computer won't allow one to copy or paste in the address block.
 
Interestingly, back in 1999, Serbian Christians asked both the Eastern Orthodox Patriarchs and the Pope to intervene by offering to mediate the conflict. Pope and Patriarch (Alexiye) sent emissaries to Brussels to seek a "truce between the two Easters." The headline on April 2, 1999 (Good Friday) was "Pope Rebuffed." The bombing was especially ruthless during this period and a civilian train was bombed together with the bridge it was crossing. There were later photographs of the two aged men -- Pope and Patriarch -- sitting together looking like two thoroughly discouraged and defeated old men. It was anticlerical Javier Solana ordering underling Wesley Clark to step up the bombing -- but Wesley Clark would have to "take the responsibility." Wesley Clark admitted in his book that he was nervous remembering the Nuremberg judgments. Your last comment brought that sorry episode back to my recollection.

How long until we too are "collateral damage" as were the Yugoslavian victims?

Constance
 
I don't know if this is true or not, and as I am getting ready to go out I don't have time to do any research, but a friend just called and said she'd heard just yesterday on a radio program that the Obama administration is also planning a mandatory senior corps to do community service. She couldn't recall where she'd heard it.

Just wondered if anyone else had heard anything about that?
 
If this is how Obama views the handicapped why would he advocate for Autism to be recognized in the public school district as a disability needing treatment.

I am not disagreeing with your findings and opinions but am frustrated as to why he would deceive many parents with disabled children.

I pray that the Lord would cover the elderly and hadicapped with a hedge of protection (and their relatives). I wonder how much longer God can watch these events before he intervenes.
 
Latest on Javier Solana, "The Quartet" and Middle East Peace Process:

http://tinyurl.com/6h4rwd
 
Barack Obama HAS BEEN ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES and BY A LANDSLIDE. God has clearly allowed it. We must now pray that God will guide him and us through these obviously turbulent times.

Constance
 
From a story over at EUreferendum:
"The funny thing is that you can read all about Barack Obama's plans for the United States in the British media today. "

Gosh, I wish they would be reporting the same over here in the US.

They say a person is known by the company they keep. Read this to get a description of Rahm Emanuel. Obama's campaign? Be ruthless, don't care what people stand for, raise huge amounts of money, and at the end say "Let's work together."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-rahm-emanuel,0,5195684,print.story
 
"God has clearly allowed it." No Constance. God allowed us to do it to ourselves. Free will.
 
To anonymous 3:37 -- there might be some misunderstanding. I have no present reason to suspect that Barack Obama views the handicapped with any sort of disdain although many New Agers do view them as having "bad karma."

My posting was referring to Hitler and his attitudes and warning of possible "ominous parallels" with what is developing and also the Rapture Ready author of the posting was talking about how healthy Germans impressed into national service were agitated into believing exempt handicappers were "useless eaters" and thus worthy of death.

Barack Obama's mother was clearly concerned about the weak, impoverished and disabled and so far I have no reason to doubt his sincerity on that level although Dorothy may have very different opinions based on her research. She has spent much more time on his record than i.

His record against the defenseless unborn -- especially the 9 month term pregnancies for "partial birth abortion" is a different kettle of fish altogether. That record is BAD!

Constance
 
Constance - I passed a commerical gun store this afternoon in doing my weekend family errands and there were people waiting in line - outside - just to go "inside" the store. My military friends are telling me that guns and ammunition are selling faster than the distributors can get them to the retailers. No one seems to know what Obamas real positions are on guns, or anything else, except higher taxes. But the guns are disappearing at a very fast rate.

mike in colorado
 
Constance - Sorry about my frustration expressed earlier @ 3:37 pm. The content of this topic disturbed me greatly because I have special needs children. I've thought about the New Ager's view regarding "the weak" in the recent past and everything seems to be happening quickly. I understand that many will fall into this category and God is paying attention. Thank you for your diligent work and warnings - this one was hard to stomach.

Nancy
 
hk-91,

I felt the same away about George W. Bush. But, we live in a democracy and so, majority rules. You're living in a world of make-believe with pretty colors and leprechauns if you think this election is not over. If you voted, though, I think it gives you the right to complain. Move to Oklahoma--it's still Republican country.

WGFO
 
ANSWER TO A QUESTION FROM ANONYMOUS
I was reading the previous threadss and found I had not answered a question from an anonymous poster. I answered on that thread, but wanted to carry my answer over to here in the event the person didn't go back there.

Question:
What are Obama's plans for Israel, and how does this appointment (as well as the numerous prominent Jews behind his campaign) fit into that picture?

Answer:
ANONYMOUS 3:50 AM
http://tinyurl.com/5v4ole

"...2) Peace-processors take heart: Rahm, precisely because he's a lover of Israel, will not have much patience with Israeli excuse-making, so when the next Prime Minister tells President Obama that as much as he'd love to, he can't dismantle the Neve Manyak settlement outpost, or whichever outpost needs dismantling, because of a) domestic politics; b) security concerns, or c) the Bible, Rahm will call out such nonsense, and it will be very hard for right-wing Israelis to come back and accuse him of being a self-hating Jew. This is not to say that he's unaware of Palestinian dysfunction, or Iranian extremism, but that he has a good grasp of some of Israel's foibles as well. All in all, it's a very heartening choice."

Keep in mind there is a split in Israel between the religious community and the secular leaders. The religious community works to turn Israel into a land of religious Jews complete with keeping of the laws. The secular leadership wants Israel to be another United States kind of place, separation of synagogue and state if you will, a half way point between what the Palestinians want and what the religious Jews want. The present leadership would be happy with the equivalent of Christmas and Easter Christians or in this case Passover and Rosh Hashonah Jews, or lox and bagel Jews. And we know the direction religion is going in the US. All gone except for pockets if the trend continues.

There's nothing that says Obama and Emanuel know anything about Lucis Trust writings or plans. The latter appears to be a hard-nosed politician who would be willing to sell out the religious Jews for some sort of peace agreement. As far as Obama, only a stupid or foolish person would move up the chain of command so fast. A normal person would be asking a lot of questions before they got into that coaster wagon. Somewhere I read that Obama had 700 people working for him, not counting volunteers. While we've heard about some of them and some of the funding, there is no investigative reporter in action here. It appears there is big time New Age influence acting on his behalf, but we don't know where it is coming from.

Where does that leave Israel and Jews. Orthodox Jews voted overwhelmingly for McCain because they knew no good could come from Obama. From the Jewish Press "Jews Still Unsure About Obama: McCain Support Near 80% Among Orthodox." Because it is such a difficult lifestyle, the Orthodox make up only a small portion of the Jewish community.

Emanuel is a deal maker, not an idealist. He stupidly will be happy if there is something in the Middle East called Israel, even if he has to compromise the religion. With the larger goals of the New Age movement on track, that leaves Israel in a bad place even though Emanual may not know it.

Dorothy
 
International system for tracking terrorists "fraying" after 7 Yrs.
("Report: Terroists Use Cash, Avoid Financial Ties"):

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,449108,00.html
 
Looks like WND picked up this story as well.

YG- It mentions the senior corps as well.

http://www.wnd.com/
index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80539
 
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
The liberal Jewish community is pretty much held captive by its publications which generally are very liberal. Jews will believe other Jews just as Christians believe other Christians. The Orthodox press pretty much keeps to itself as does the liberal press.

Articles such as those coming from the Jewish Federation presses are not meant to inform, but are meant to keep the readers happy with what is going on, meant to keep the contributions coming in without upsetting the readers. Rabbis who know better keep away from topics that are upsetting to the congregation. Independent magazines and newspapers want to keep the ads coming in, so they don't rock the boat. It's a self-perpetuating merry-go-round. Because the community is small, compared to the Christian community, and the activists are generally tight with each other, there is no room for disagreement. Every disagreement is swept under the rug, even squabbles about where funding is going to from the Federations. Very few are bold enough to speak out about disagreements.

There are also the suspicions about
information coming from those outside the Jewish community. If one's own community is telling a person one thing and someone else is saying something different, almost no one is strong enough to be different. It is just assumed that all problems will go away over time or that the leaders in the community will take care of the problems.

In the early years I was told over and over again when I wanted to tell someone about antisemitic writings or actions, to take the information to the Anti-Defamation League who would handle it. The Orthodox community knows the ADL has a political agenda, but most of the other Jews don't recognize this as ADL material reflects what they believe.

To almost all Jews the idea of one world government or Lucis Trust writings or worry about the changes in culture are just foolish conspiracy theories.

Because the Christian community is so large, it is possible that a group of people can be gathered together in a blog who can speak to each other and understand each other about the New Age movement. The same percentage of the Jewish community finding each other is almost impossible.

http://tinyurl.com/6ynaqy
Christians 76.5% of the US population. Jews 1.3% of the US population.

I hope this helps to explain some of the problems getting this information out to the Jewish community and why the Jewish leadership seems so foolish in the decisions they make.

Dorothy
 
Will.I.am hologram gets more coverage.

I happen to see a bit of Will.i.am new song about Obama "It's a New Day" on the Oprah show. The screen behind him it showed different images including video of himself as the hologram at least twice. I am wondering if Oprah talked about it to him as well.
 
here is a link to the video. By the way take some time and read the comments. Dorothy told me one time that you can learn a lot from comments to an article.

http://tiny.cc/KWF8o

One comment that I found very interesting:
"Does anyone ever think these celebs are payed for their vote? Crazy thought I know, but I could so see Oprah telling Brad that she's not going to promote his new movie unless he votes nobama, or vice versa Brad refusing to go on Jay Leno until Leno votes for nobama. lol...just a thought"
 
It's articles like this one addressing the CDC & HHS approach to a human value system, along with this recent article re: a little boy with Down's rejection for residency in Australia, that has me increasingly concerned. I also am a mother of a little boy with Autism and moderate MR. I've been an advocate for individuals with special needs for many years now, and I feel little to no optimism with Obama's support of abortion of little babies who are disabled. When someone doesn't support the right to life of a differently-abled individual at conception, what confidence is there to be had that he will value them as a rightful citizen? Unfortunately, it leads to situations like this in Sydney:

"SYDNEY, Australia (AP) - A German doctor hoping to gain permanent residency in Australia said Friday he will fight an immigration department decision denying his application because his son has Down syndrome. Bernhard Moeller came to Australia with his family two years ago to help fill a doctor shortage in a rural area of Victoria state.
His temporary work visa is valid until 2010, but his application for permanent residency was rejected this week. The immigration department said Moeller's 13-year-old son, Lukas, "did not meet the health requirement."
"A medical officer of the Commonwealth assessed that his son's existing medical condition was likely to result in a significant and ongoing cost to the Australian community," a departmental spokesman said in a statement issued Thursday by the Department of Immigration and Citizenship.
"This is not discrimination. A disability in itself is not grounds for failing the health requirement—it is a question of the cost implications to the community," the statement said."
Link-
http://tinyurl.com/6m2ynd

Who Will Be Saved During Mass Crisis?
" Lindsay Tanner; Chicago- Doctors know some patients needing lifesaving care won't get it in a flu pandemic or other disaster. The gut-wrenching dilemma will be deciding who to let die.
Now, an influential group of physicians has drafted a grimly specific list of recommendations for which patients would not be treated. They include the very elderly, seriously hurt trauma victims, severely burned patients and those with severe dementia.
The suggested list was compiled by a task force whose members come from prestigious universities, medical groups, the military and government agencies. They include the Department of Homeland Security, the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention and the Department of Health and Human Services."
List of the unsave-ables:
*people older than 85
*those with severe trauma which could include critical injuries from car crashes and shootings
*severely burned patients over 60
*those with severe mental impairment, which could include Alheimer's patients
*those with severe chronic disease such as advanced heart failure, lung disease, or poorly controlled diabetes
Link to full article-
http://tinyurl.com/5q95f7

-SV
 
There is at least a glimmer of good news, someone is willing to stand up against a horrible law that just passed in Washington State.

"Voters in Washington may have made their state the second in the nation to legalize assisted suicide but that doesn't mean patients who want their physician's help in killing themselves will be able to get it. Doctors and hospitals are already speaking up saying they will refuse assisted suicide requests.

Though voters approved I-1000 on Tuesday, the Washington State Medical Association says doctors have no obligation to participate in killing patients.

Meanwhile, Providence Health and Services, the largest medical system in eastern Washington, states it will prohibit doctors from killing patients at its medical centers, nursing homes and other facilities.

"Providence will not support physician-assisted suicide within its ministries," it said in a statement published in the Spokesman Review newspaper.

"This position is grounded in our basic values of respect for the sacredness of life, compassionate care of dying and vulnerable persons, and respect for the integrity of medical, nursing and allied health professions. We do not believe health care providers should ever be put in a position of aiding a patient in taking his or her own life," the statement continued.

Spokeswoman Karina Jennings said Providence has no plans to pursue legal action to overturn the assisted suicide law and will take advantage of the exemption in the law.

Hospice of Spokane will also not participate in the law and says its mission is to provide care and support for patients, not kill them.

Wesley J. Smith, a top bioethics watchdog based in California, applauded the decisions not to engage in assisted suicides.

"One of the most important services that medical professionals can offer to the people they serve, I think, is to declare their offices and facilities to be 'assisted suicide free zones,'" he said. "Indeed, I hope that medical organizations create plaques and certificates to those doctors and health care facilities can mount on office walls."

He called opting out of doing assisted suicides "important" and said, "Medical professionals must resist turning killing (which means to end life) into a medical treatment. None can be forced (yet) to participate."

"Such modeling may save lives of people who, thanks to the continued proliferation of non-participating medical professionals, will never ask for assisted suicide. And it will give courage to others to resist the culture of death that this way comes," he added.

There is time for physicians and hospitals to put their internal policies in place as the assisted suicide law won't go into effect until July 2009 after state officials write the ballot measure into law.

Washington voters approved I-1000 after proponents spent $7 million -- mostly coming from out of state -- against the paltry funds opponents had to educate voters against it." "
 
"HE IS NOT NOR WILL HE EVER, NEVER EVER BE MY PRESIDENT. PERIOD END OF STORY!!!"


no one is asking you to like what Obama offers. i think no one here does, but remember that as constance has said, GOD IS IN CONTROL. if God didnt want Obama in his place He would not have allowed it. God allows things to happen for his plan to come to pass(bible). he allows bad things to happen to his people when they turn from Him in order to correct them by allowing evil to do it part. God controls both sides and NOTHING happens without His say so. God hardend pharaohs heart, God called the locust army "His army" and God sets up nations and brings them down when they dont listen to Him.
God contorls evil and allows it to happen when his children turn from Him both as a way of correcting them(discipline) and letting evil do its part in this world in order for His perfect plan to come to pass EXACTLY as its written.


Jer 27:6
And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, "MY SERVANT"; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him.

Joe 2:25
And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, "MY GREAT ARMY" which I sent among you.

Jer 31:28
And it shall come to pass, [that] like as "I" have watched over them, to "PLUCK UP", and to "BREAK DOWN", and to throw down, and to destroy, and to afflict; so will "I" watch over them, to "BUILD", and to "PLANT", saith the LORD.


you see, even the "evil" is under Gods control. think about that next time you fear it. nothing to fear but fear itself. God almighty is in control. look to Him.

to fear is to lack in FAITH. nothing to fear, you and God make the majority. think of daniel in the lions den and shadrack meshack and abendigo in the fiery furnace.

>oVi
 
Anyone notice the Illinois Pick numbers the night after the election of Obama?

11/05/2008 Evening Pick 3 6-6-6
Link:
http://tinyurl.com/2vo3m5

Odd or what??
-SV
 
10/23/2008 was 6-6-6 also. Never really noticed this before, but I've never really calculated the odds of it happening either.

10/23/2008 Midday Pick 3 6-6-6
-SV
 
"God has clearly allowed it." No Constance. God allowed us to do it to ourselves. Free will.

Let's all keep this mind in the coming times.
 
Dorothy mentioned the ugly dictatorship that has emerged at Little Green Footballs. I was viewing Robert Spencer's blog (jihadwatch) the other day and it's very disturbing to see how this brave man and magnificent scholar has been demonized by LGF. Reminded me a bit of the "News With Views" rubbish that went on earlier in year against Dorothy.

It's a reminder to keep vigilant about the "divide and conquer" tactics and how destructive they can be.

(I have to wonder though if the anti-Catholic Ingrid Schleuter, who links to Robert, realizes he is a Catholic convert).

Savvy, good to see you back.
 
Since the morning of November 5th, we are being bombarded by all things Obama (my new phrase: "obamarded").

On today's "CBS News Sunday Morning" . . . the talking heads are already preparing us for the possibility that Obama may not bring that much "change" after all. Here is how this particular segment was presented to the Kool-Aide drinkers of America.

When a candidate runs for office, he makes a lot of campaign promises. However, does the President actually have the power to do something about taxes, health care, or our dependence on foreign oil? NO, he needs the help of Congress. And we should be thankful, because that would make the President a dictator.

So hey, America (and you Liberal Democrats) listen up . . . try to calm down, be patient and understand when your new President ends up sounding a lot like your OLD President!!! Change . . . shmange!!! LOL

Of course, we non Kool-Aide drinkers KNOW that there will be many OTHER changes enacted into law that were never intended to be part of any campaign promises!!!
 
Dorothy:

When you decide to "return to the fold" - please give us the straight "poop" (as only you can) on Valerie Jarrett. She was a guest on "Meet The Press" this morning - and supposedly, Obama "doesn't make a move" without consulting her.

I know that she was once Deputy Chief of Staff for Chicago's Mayor Richard Daley - which speaks VOLUMES.
 
"Obama positioned to reverse Bush actions"

"A team of four dozen advisers, working for months in virtual solitude, set out to identify regulatory and policy changes Obama could implement soon after his inauguration. The team is now consulting with liberal advocacy groups, Capitol Hill staffers and potential agency chiefs to prioritize those they regard as the most onerous or ideologically offensive, said a top transition official who was not permitted to speak on the record about the inner workings of the transition.

… the preelection transition team, comprising mainly lawyers, has positioned the incoming president to move fast on high-priority items without waiting for Congress…”

Some items listed in the article as having priority:
. federal funding of embryonic stem cell research

“Lifting of a so-called global gag rule barring international family planning groups that receive U.S. aid from counseling women about the availability of abortion, even in countries where the procedure is legal”, said Cecile Richards, the president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America.

New environmental safeguards


Now that the election is over I'm noticing a "CHANGE" in the image of President Elect Obama being captured by photographers and projected to viewers . I'm seeing very few photographs reflecting the “Celebrity Smile” – a strategic element of an effective advertising campaign - designed to “let the image do the talking” and “sell” Barack Obama to the public. -Rudi

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27628719
 
Hannah Arendt identified that totalitarianism thrives in rootless. traumatised, and confused peoples who have abandoned tradition. That describes a lot of American youth past the 60's.
 
Rudi, and Anon 11:00,

Here is more on how O may enact "change" without Congress...

President-elect Obama plans to use his executive powers to make an immediate impact when he takes office, perhaps reversing Bush administration policies on stem cell research and domestic drilling for oil and natural gas.

http://tinyurl.com/666voa
 
Jeeze louise, look at the tinyurl link...

think it means anything???

:))
 
YIKES SARA! :~o Rudi
 
Hi Homophobic,

Your comment is spot on.

I have read Hannah Arendt's book THE ORIGINS OF TOTALITARIANISM.

In this book Ms. Arendt also made the interesting statement that totalitarian movements were "secret societies established in broad daylight."

http://tinyurl.com/5kotzj
_______________________________

EXCERPTS FROM

THE ORIGINS OF TOTALITARIANISM

http://nickcooper.com/origins.htm
________________________________
 
Check this out . . . what's happening to free speech?

Could this legislation (H.R. 1955 & S.1959 - see below) be designed to curtail conservatives, labeled as wearing "tin foil hats', from speaking against the NWO . . . or maybe to stop ministers from preaching truth of the Bible which portrays a violent end for 'the world' when Jesus Christ returns to defeat the antichrist. . . . or to quiet any view point that is not politically correct according to the new world servers? Maybe it will accomplish all of the above.

I'm not that smart, but if this passes the Senate, won't that have the effect of shutting down free speech?

What's next - rewrite the US Constitution, which Obama thinks is an outdated document? Then we'll loose the 1st, 2nd, and 10th amendments for sure, and maybe more.

Gee, why not scrap the whole thing and just adopt a Global Constitution then we'll be in lock-step with the world??

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR01955:

Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007

H.R.1955
Title: To prevent homegrown terrorism, and for other purposes.

SUMMARY AS OF:
10/23/2007--Passed House amended.    (There are 2 other summaries)

Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 - Amends the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to add a new section concerning the prevention of violent radicalization (an extremist belief system for facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change) and homegrown terrorism (violence by a group or individual within the United States to coerce the U.S. government, the civilian population, or a segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives).

Establishes within the legislative branch the National Commission on the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism to: (1) examine and report on facts and causes of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence in the United States; and (2) build upon, bring together, and avoid unnecessary duplication of related work done by other entities toward such goal. Requires: (1) interim reports and a final report from the Commission to the President and Congress on its findings and recommendations; (2) the public availability of such reports; and (3) Commission termination 30 days after its final report.

Directs the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish or designate a university-based Center of Excellence for the Study of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States to assist federal, state, local, and tribal homeland security officials, through training, education, and research, in preventing violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism in the United States. Requires the Secretary to: (1) conduct a survey of methodologies implemented by foreign nations to prevent violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism; and (2) report to Congress on lessons learned from survey results.

Prohibits Department of Homeland Security (DHS) efforts to prevent ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism from violating the constitutional and civil rights or civil liberties of U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents. Directs the: (1) Secretary to ensure that activities and operations are in compliance with DHS's commitment to racial neutrality; and (2) DHS Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Officer to develop and implement an auditing system to ensure that compliance does not violate the constitutional and civil rights or civil liberties of any racial, ethnic, or religious group, and to include audit results in its annual report to Congress.

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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SN01959:

S.1959
Title: A bill to establish the National Commission on the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism, and for other purposes.
 
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