And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at
his feet, and worshipped him.
But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up ; I myself also am a man.
Watching former President Trump as carefully as I have starting with his post-election request to Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger, it has been increasingly clear that Trump is accepting worship of the type that Peter declined from Cornelius (Acts 10:25). Books proclaiming Trump to be the "King of Kings and Lord of Lords" have been permitted to be marketed and sold at Trump rallies. One prominent example is shown below:
Trump has not infrequently made messianic claims for himself and happily retweeted/"retruthed" idolatrous praise for himself, including those of his friend Wayne Allyn Root who said that Trump was regarded as the second coming of God in Israel.
One of the most prominent of New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) media outlet has been Steve Shultz, owner/CEO/operator of the very large Elijah Stream network. In the last two days, Steve Shultz posted his latest Youtube interview of Jan Halper-Hayes, Both made it clear that Trump was their expectation of "hope for the world", but Steve Shultz went one further and made the audacious claim of his belief that the only thing stronger in the world than Trump was God Himself. It appears that even Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit got skipped on that one!
Disturbing comments by Jan Halper-Hayes and Steve Shultz:
-- "I would like the Military to come out . . . : (14:26)
-- "Jan Halper-Hayes references her last video (I posted this on my last post as well) about Jerome Corsi's representations about Military planning coup against Obama unless Trump promised to run for President -- they allegedly, per her, and Corsi said they held back because of the promise by Trump to run.
-- The Military wanted somebody who was "not beholden to the Deep State . . ."
-- Ken Buck (R - Colorado) who recently left Congress is not a supporter of Trump, but he was "deeply aware of the Deep State that he took . . ."
-- Jan Halper-Hayes says she can't "get her head around that Ken Buck was against the Deep State, but didn't like Trump."
-- Steve Shultz relies: "If he was against the Deep State, he should be a thousand percent for Trump . . . Jan Halper-Hayes
-- STEVE SHULTZ: "Other than God himself . . . He needs a man on the Earth to be in that position and there's no other man on Earth to be in that position and It's Trump -- There's no other human being who has those gifts other than Trump himself . . . and I suppose
-- STEVE SHULTZ -- "Oh, and I was going to make this point, too. If we want Trump with the backbone to be such a backbone so strong that even if it meant some of us have to go home early to the Lord [i.e. die!] because we didn't survive, He still waited for the right time, the right way to take on the Deep State. He can't make his decision without . . .
Jan Halper-Hayes then jumps into say from her purported insider advisor military advantage: "Let's make it clear -- the Military has already stepped in.
WELL, Trump is the Savior for the Earth? Some of us may have to die and get out the way? A military coup is already well in progress. That's what Shultz and Halper-Hayes are saying. So are many others in the MAGA-Qanon--NAR--Manifest Sons of God movements are saying. May the Lord help us all!
Stay tuned, more is coming -- next time maybe about Kat Kerr and her statements that Trump is presently the 46th President, does not need to be elected, and is entitled to "make up time" for the 4 missed years!
CONSTANCE
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Here a cult, there a cult, everywhere a cult cult
Taxation without representation is THEFT
tierneyrealnewsnetwork.substack.com/p/taxation-without-representation-is
Propriety in the Assembly of the Saints
theopenscroll.com/videos/TOS_ProprietyInTheAssembly.mp4
Every day, Deborah could be found seated under the “Palm Trees of Deborah” determining causes and controversies while judging the people according to the laws of God. I can only imagine how many disputes this wise and godly woman must have resolved. If you’re a parent who spends your days helping your kids discern and resolve their conflicts in a godly manner, you may be able to relate to a typical day in the life of Deborah. Can I get a witness?
Deborah was an uncommon leader because she was a woman. God called her to a prominent position as a prophetess and judge at a time in history when He commonly appointed men to those positions. Deborah is in good company with a few other women prophetesses in the Bible: Moses’ sister Miriam in Exodus 15:20; Huldah in 2 Kings 22:15; Anna in Luke 2:36 and Phillip’s daughters in Acts 21:8-9.
fOR THE record, Deborah also led Judah into battle when the men were too cowardly to do so -- after her victory, she judged Israel for 20 years I'm assuming (maybe falsely) that the 5:51 post may have been telling me to "shut up."
Constance
You forgot Proud Boys on your list?
quote - "If the only thing you know about the Proud Boys is that they were at the Jan. 6 riot, you’ve been lied to. Yes, absolutely, a few dozen Proud Boys were there. This was an organization with 30,000 members. More Methodists attacked the Capitol, but they weren’t forced to disband. They weren’t a threat, you see, to the left’s shock troops."
HATE WATCHDOGS NEED GLASSES
COLUMN May 1, 2024 by Ann Coulter
https://anncoulter.com/2024/05/01/hate-watchdogs-need-glasses/
PS: speaking of weak leaders - instead of Pope Francis it should be The Dali Francis
I do believe my blogspot commentators have many trolls -- working for MAGA, Qanon, and the New Apostolic Reformation. You are cordially uninvited!
Constance
I also see that commentators so far are totally unworried about the claims by Steve Shultz/ElijahStreams that Trump is passed only by God on this planet Earth. You are also obviously undisturbed by claims that some of us may have to die to allow Trump to remove "the deep state." Read Matthew 24, 2nd Thessalonians, chapter 2 and meditate deeply on the degree of deception of which Jesus and the Apostle Paul warned. Maybe you don't want to hear from me, but you SHOULD want to pay close attention to them: Jesus, Apostle Paul.
Constance
What are he biblical qualities and gifts of a genuine prophet according to scripture?
In the Bible, a genuine prophet is characterized by several qualities and gifts:
See a brief list below...
Faithfulness to God: Prophets are called to be faithful servants of God, obeying His commands and speaking His truth without compromise.
Accuracy in Prophecy: True prophets accurately convey messages from God, with their predictions coming to pass as they proclaim.
Holiness and Integrity: They live lives of integrity, demonstrating holiness in their actions and character.
Empowerment by the Holy Spirit: Prophets are empowered by the Holy Spirit to speak on behalf of God and to perform signs and wonders to authenticate their message.
Courage and Boldness: They exhibit courage and boldness in proclaiming God's message, even in the face of opposition or persecution.
Humility: Genuine prophets recognize their dependence on God and do not seek personal glory or recognition.
Love and Compassion: They demonstrate love and compassion towards others, seeking the well-being and repentance of those they are sent to.
Consistency with Scripture: Their messages align with the teachings of Scripture, not contradicting the Word of God.
These qualities and gifts can be seen in the lives and ministries of biblical prophets such as Moses, Elijah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and others
What was the characteristics by comparison of the false prophet Balaam ?
Balaam considered a false prophet due to his actions and motives. Here are some characteristics that set him apart from genuine prophets:
Motivated by Greed: Balaam's primary motivation was financial gain. He was willing to compromise his principles for personal profit, as seen when he accepted payment from Balak, the king of Moab, to curse the Israelites.
Disobedience to God: Although initially prohibited by God from cursing the Israelites, Balaam continued to pursue his own agenda and ultimately attempted to curse them anyway.
Lack of Integrity: Despite knowing God's will, Balaam entertained the idea of going against it for personal gain. This lack of integrity contrasts sharply with the faithfulness and obedience displayed by genuine prophets.
Manipulative: Balaam used his reputation and supposed spiritual authority to manipulate others, including Balak, for his own benefit.
Self-serving Prophecy: Even when Balaam attempted to prophesy, his words were not genuine messages from God but rather self-serving or influenced by external factors.
Pride: Balaam's actions were driven by his pride and desire for recognition and reward, rather than humility and submission to God's will.
Overall, Balaam serves as a cautionary example of the dangers of pursuing personal gain at the expense of obedience to God and integrity in one's actions.
Sadly, whether Trump wins or loses the election we are living in troubling times. We've fallen off a cliff culturally. The spirit of the antichrist already reigns in our nations. We've redefined marriage & gender. We deny infanticide is murder. Etc. It won't be long before we've bottomed so low the only way will be up from there. God, help us. 🙏
John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
"the audacious claim of his belief that the only thing stronger in the world than Trump was God Himself. It appears that even Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit got skipped on that one!"
Technically, when you mention "God", don't you consider Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit already included and so not skipped over?
(I suppose some folks don't consider Jesus and the Holy Spirit as God.)
drk
3:35 AM Matt
Amen.
This blog is a picture of those who really seem to have forgotten exactly what you bring up. Straining to make Bible text talk their narrative even while spouting Scripture. Playing the 'who is who' game is so contrived.
Sad.
Too pro or too con with any and every side of politics is off track. If wanting to be so correct Biblically then the focus should be "Looking unto Jesus the Author and Finisher" the "Who" to really be focused on, but a mere sideline at this place. The virtue signalling is beyond ridiculous.
Lost in the weeds of their own discontents, choking out the Word by caring way too much about the cares of this world.
What are so many not responding response to Shultz claim that only Trump has "the gifts" to eliminate the "deep state"? That only God surpasses Trump on this Earth? I rather suspect that most of you have not viewed the Shultz-Halper-Hayes video I attached to my post.
For the record, I am starting to delete comments that are off topic on this point. We have just a few months to go until it now appears likely that Trump gets back in power -- a power he intends to exercise ruthlessly. It looks like too many of you are fallen into Jesus' warned :deceptiono enough to deceive the elecrt.
NOW, i suspect you will say, "I'm the Elect -- I can't be deceived." The minute you think you can't be deceived, is the moment you are most vulnerable to it.
Constance
Constance
To 11:55 -- What are you referencing? I have agreed with Ann Coulter on some things over the years -- on her stance on New Age Movement. What is the Proud Boys/ reference to? If Ann Coulter supports the Proud Boys, I would have to differ with her.
Constance I
The Proud Boys reference was to the alphabet soup of usual suspects (MAGA/QANON/NAR/ETC.) who always gets listed as threatening, but who were minus in your most recent post. TBH I was being snarky. Sorry madam. I think the cowardly reference may have triggered my snark reflex.
As far as emperor god trump goes, I feel if people wished to deify him he would happily go along with it. Keep watch. I appreciate your wisdom.
Interesting (long) video
Will Spencer interviews Christopher Knowles
https://youtu.be/S_897UM-MQE?si=10SVAsJln7dOLtvV
PS: never fell asleep once
Constance you need to balance you views and talk about the real Jesus Christ instead of focusing on constant antichrist conjecture.
yeah we're supposed to be in an attitude of looking for the coming of Jesus in the sky, even if we can't reasonablyexpect Him in our lifetimes, that should be the focus. NOT waiting for the antichrist but waiting for Jesus Christ.
off hand, can anyone here estimTE HOW MUCH MONEY THEY OR OTHERS HAVE SPENT ON THOSE END TIMES PROPHECY EXPERTS WHO NEVER GET IT RIGHT AND THINK THE ANCIENTS WERE TOO IGNORANT TO KNOW AN ECLIPSE FOR A SUPERNATURAL EVENT (OR MAYBE THE PROPHEC EXPERTS ARE THAT IGNORANT)?
PRICE OF dvdS BOOKS AND ADMISSION TO LECTURE AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO FINANCE THE PREACHER'S HIGH LIFESTYLE - WHICH Actd dsyd esd esd pr dostronutopm tp the [oppr lin the community not the clergy./
I recall one guy telling how he couldn't make his car or house payments, went to his church he had contributed to a lot for help, and these bible nonbeliebvers told him that sort of thing was his responsibility..
bible nonbelievers because they didn't use the collection for the needsof the congregation, but for themselves.
You see a church were staff wears latesy ntnf name expensive clothes and drives new cars run like hell. don't give these bastards a cent.
Some churches are so poor they have to support the clergy, but there should be no indication of expensive clothes, cars or housing.
sorry for typos I can't delete and rewrite or get falsely accused of writing something I didn't. Acts describing how the diaconate was formed, shows the collectionwas for distribution to the needy, to suppot the clegy high lifestyle.
To 1:45 pm - Thanks for the clarificatin and kind words.
Constance
10:46 PM
William Miller published millions of pamphlets, tracts and periodicals in the 1830-40s predicting the Second Avent. It spread nationwide and even to Canada and Britain. When the time came and went they called it the Great Disappointment. Here's the thing: God writes straight on crooked lines so maybe what happened is William Miller's efforts straighten mankind out enough the Judgement was postponed.
PS: I did hear William made a fair amount of money selling accession robes ( - :
The Ark of the Covenant found! Kent Hovind explains...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRR_oGJgkMI&t=0s
Yes, it preaches well and yes it could start WW 3
In 1846, Ellen G. Harmon married James White, a fellow Millerite, and together they consolidated the group of Millerites that became the Seventh-day Adventist Church in Michigan in 1861.
Told ya so!
Two excellent books are MUST READING. Both are available on Amazon and possibly other sites.
Both are by Max Ridgway: CHURCH OF TRUMP and PROPHETS OF TRUMP.
Constance
Two excellent books are MUST READING. Both are available on Amazon and possibly other sites.
Both are by Max Ridgway: CHURCH OF TRUMP and PROPHETS OF TRUMP. I've fully read them both -- PROPHETS has heavy, accurate, and necessary information on the ELIJAH STREAMS - Steve Shults and his "Patriots and Prophets" sections on his website and youtube channel. CHURCH OF TRUMP -- developments leading to obvious Trump idolatry.
Constance
Thank you, Constance. I will read both books.
aside fromt he pratical issuesof trying to stop birthright citizenship and get rid of one of the emendments, these two books bother me. Constance's concerns are wayoverblowwn now or were until recently, but IN NEAR FUTURE THEY COULD BECOME A REALISSUE. the Elijah List is probaby subscribed to by a lot of people and those two boks are going to spread the ideas and maybe this tiny loony cult of Trump as divine or something, is going to become a player on the American religious scene.
So I am definitely not going vote for him or support him I have have to just not vote for anyone like one other election.
Christine
Christine @10:16 PM,
The Elijah List website was created by Steve Shultz in 1997 and had 240,000 subscribers in 2023 and adding more daily. The Elijah List Facebook page has 427,000 followers as of today. A loony cult, Yes, but not tiny. It became a major player on the American religious scene immediately following 9-11-2001, regardless of the fact that none of their prophecies ever came to pass. Y2K was one of the big ones, they were all wrong. They completely missed 9-11. They endorsed and anointed Trump as God's chosen one. In my opinion, the Elijah List was instrumental in grooming subscribers to accept the lies and conspiracy theories advanced by QAnon. That isn't going to stop anytime soon.
11:43
sorry for my ignorance about elijah list, I just don't pay any attention to stuff like that.
Christine
11:47 AM
It's the mouthpiece for the NAR. I like to keep ahead of the foolishness. Elijah List is a big influence on the far right which includes most of my family and friends.
Only one boss (and it sure ain't God!)
What is a 15 Minute City?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq-9-XfPzwM
Bottom line: sure makes culling the herd much more cost effective, too.
In the story and video below, Steven Strang, Founder of Charisma and CEO of Charisma Media. He's also a journalist and editor who has covered the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement for more than three decades and a major contributor to the Elijah List provided covered, as he has for many NAR false teachers to Benny Hinn.
There is no evil they won't support, enable or condone.
Benny Hinn Responds to Mike Winger’s 4-Hour Exposé: ‘Forgive Me…I’ve Made Mistakes’
Excerpt: Strang was a willing participant in his (Hinn's) efforts to show himself as rehabilitated and reformed, lobbing a bunch of softball questions you’d swear were submitted by Hinn himself. (Transcript below) Teeing up at the plate, Hinn paints a picture of himself as a faithful believer who loves Jesus and yet has made a few errors in fifty years of ministry, mostly in his youth by putting his trust in the wrong people, but that’s all done away with now.
https://protestia.com/2024/05/08/benny-hinn-responds-to-mike-wingers-4-hour-expose-forgive-me-ive-made-mistakes/
Now I'm very happy to see the on-target comments. I did delete the comment urging only that people buy lottery tickets. Clearly NOT ON TARGET.
Constance
Michael Voris Resigns after Gay Affair with Milo Yiannopoulos and other men
https://youtu.be/rWiFPg25xfY?si=SpbJO6oZX_NwPoLd
Video Description:
Nov 21, 2023: Michael Voris of Church Militant has resigned for violating the Moral Clause of his company. In spite of being ashamed of his past as a flaming fruity bogtrotter he has relapsed into his morbid lifestyle and had several gay trysts including one with Milo Yiannopoulos. He has resigned in disgrace.
Voris is to Catholics what Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson were to Baptists. But at least they weren't gay at least as far as we know.
The Catholic church is a very evil false religion that claims to be a bunch of do gooders and nice people but in reality they are perverts, thieves, hypocrites and vipers. Catholics control most of the media, they cause most of our wars, they promote genocide, holocausts, pedophelia, sex trafficking ETC.
Catholics are criminals, they allow in other criminals from the third world to invade our country and promote carnage and mayhem and bring in illegals to destroy the economy and create homelessness.
Catholics are commanded to rob rape and kill non Catholics. You are required to do this if you want to be saved. Catholics also must do many good works or they will end up in hell or if lucky in purgatory for thousands if not millions of years.
why am I not surprised? the way Voris did his hair cued me he was still pretty fleshly, though not necessarily gay might have been hoping to attract women. Either way, fornicatin was a possible. or at least lasciviousness and dry humping, everything except in the vagina to preserve purity but masturbate on each other petting to orgasm, etc. with assorted partners. The purity ring crowd often do this.
Interesting anti catholic rant. NEver heard of any being commanded to rob and rape. the catholics control media and everything and cause all this laundry list of evils puts them in direct competition with the dreadful Jews who control media and everything and cause the laundry list of evils et.c etc. (I AM JOKING)
The thing is, this is the same accusation exactly same as made against Jews. So who is running the evil show? Catholics or Jews?
This is ridiculous on the face of it.
I assume the info on Voris is correct.
I am not surprised one of his partners was yanolopous, with his conservative values except for sexual issues, he and Voris would share some interests and both love the traditional latin mass.
Christine
love of traditiona nd latin - this may not reflect anything theological or about morality. Merely aestheticism, and in some cases ethnic cultural identity. nothing much more.
Christine
Regarding Voris' hair: I used to think he just had funny hair then I learned it's a wig (and they say women are vain)
And since you brought up Catholics and Jews: it's interesting to note as Latin is being suppressed Hebrew is an enforced language. (emersion learning; you don't go to the bathroom till you ask in Hebrew)
But back to point ~ if Trump's supporters showed a little humility maybe so would Trump (not his strong suit fer sure). It'd be better all 'round.
Who cares about the Elijah Streams? Sounds like they are the Mitch Pacwa/Dave Hunt/Spiritual Counterfits Project/etc etc of "exposing the New Age movement." Mrs. Cumbey exposed ALL of these "players" in detail over the years at this blog and in interviews. They are/were filled with contradictions in both words and behaviour, which would cause a critical mind to look more deeply into their motives.
These books "Church of Trump" and "Prophets of Trump" - oh dear, these books looks like disinformation to me. I don't know anyone who is pro-Trump who would read this garbage! And that's what it is - GARBAGE.
There is no such thing as "QANON" Constance, and if you believe this you have fallen for a disinformation campaign! Listening to you drone on about ridiculous books probably written by New Agers (or leftist plants?) is like listening to Dave Hunt et al about the New Age movement - and completely ignoring the scholarship of Constance Cumbey.
I had to laugh when Dorothy (RIP) got TDS and started referring to Melania Trump as "pretty woman" - LOL. Now Constance's TDS is so advanced she cannot see the forest from the trees. I learned so much from both of you over the years, yet both of you had/have a pathological hatred of President Trump which impairs your critical judgment. Life can be so darn strange.
Warning your readerrs so much about "deception" - well Constance, has it ever occurred to you that you have fallen for a mass campaign of deception, more complex and vast than any we have seen in our lifetime? The fruits of all these supposedly "pro-Trump" operators you are so obsessed with Constance is ROTTEN. How about actually looking into why people who aren't interested in the garbage you are obsessed with, like Trump so much?
Trump is fantastic. Perfect? No he is not. Anointed? It appears so. Time will tell - it always does. We will know within the next year for sure what God has planned.
Hey Constance, how about looking into Mark Elias and the 65 Project? They are very open about their objectives. Do you see them as a threat to the rule of law? He has a pathological hatred of Trump by the way.
The best is yet to come, folks. Trump 2024.
Oh, and hey Constance - I was just remembering all the very nuanced discussions many years ago around figures like Jacob Prasch, Gary Kay, Barbara Aho - and so many others. Those were days of great learning and nuanced thinking. Where did that critical mind of yours go? Succumbed to Trump Derangement Syndrome I suppose? TDS - there is no cure it seems.
TRUMP 2024
*Gary Kah NOT Gary Kay
Constance,
I’m glad to see the words “allegedly” and “purported” in your post. Yet those two words are about as far as your nuance goes. There are too many leaps of logic for me, some of which I pointed out in previous posts.
So, who is this author of the two “required reading” books you reference here in the comments section? From his bio on Amazon:
Max Ridgway is a 1990 graduate of Berklee College of Music in Boston, Summa Cum Laude, and holds a master's degree from Northwestern Oklahoma State University where he currently teaches as an adjunct instructor specializing in music theory, world music, humanities, and music of the 20th century. In addition, he curates a YouTube page (currently with 16,000 subscribers) called NewMusicXX which promotes modern music and contemporary composers. He is also a musician with wide-ranging experience, from avant-garde free improvisation and ambient music to blues-infused jazz.
OK, so he’s a specialist in music. I like music! I even like some avant-garde music; so, I checked out his YouTube channel: NewMusicXX. Besides Sofia Gubaidulina, Charles Ives, and Stravinsky, I’d never of the composers he sources. But I’m willing to listen to some unfamiliar (to me) music.
Sorry, I’m a bit off topic. Now back to the subject at hand.
Ridgway appears to have no real background with Christianity. Can someone write about Christianity without being a Christian, e.g.? Maybe so. But note also that his books are self-published—which means they very likely haven’t undergone any sort of peer review. Can someone properly write about Christianity without undergoing Christian peer review? I admit I’m skeptical. But, keep in mind, this guy is a SUMMA CUM LAUDE Berklee graduate. Would you trust his self-published book Revelation: Disarming the Most Dangerous Book in the World? Through his back cover we can see he’s a full-on preterist:
…[This book] presents overwhelming evidence, both from history and scripture, that the events of Revelation have all been fulfilled and have no direct relevance to anyone living today. Part One details the troubled history of John's Revelation and the ways in which lives have been destroyed by the misapplication of this dangerous book. Part Two is a chapter by chapter analysis of the Book of Revelation, explaining its mysterious symbols in the light of Old Testament prophecy.
I would think that if someone wanted to look at a (not quite full-on) preterist’s view, one might be better served by reading Hank Hanegraaff’s The Apocalypse Code, which is not self-published (on Thomas Nelson). That said, this book is flawed, and I do not much care for Hanegraaff’s dogmatic stance on a number of topics.
It appears I may have digressed again. In any case, can we trust works written by a non-Christian about Trump through the lens of false Christianity?
I meant to add this question to the above: Given his claim that the events of Revelation have all been fulfilled and have no direct relevance to anyone living today does Ridgway believe Jesus has already returned also?
full on preterism is insane, it also is close to denying the literal Second Coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Christine
A "Open the Heavens Conference" was held in 2021 in Council Bluffs, Iowa. It was sponsored by NAR prophet/pastors Hank and Brenda Kunneman, of Lord of Host Church in Omaha, Nebraska. The theme of the conference was “it is time to get ready for the revolution of light.” General Mike Flynn led conference goers in a prayer to the 7 rays. connecting to cult leader Elizabeth Clare Prophet of the Church Universal and Triumphant.
Nuanced thinking is indeed becoming a rare art form it seems. Take Barbara Aho, for example, who was mentioned by Perplexed", I just recently checked out her website again, while digging through some rather old browser bookmarks. She says some very good right things, and did some good research (it seems to me anyway, from the brief look I had), but then says some very wrong things as well. Do I then proclaim her a "false teacher", discarding all the good that she may have written?
I get criticized often for using the old adage "Chew the meat, and spit out the bones." This can be a dangerous practice, but it doesn't always have to be. Nobody has 100% Truth - only Jesus can claim that title. So why should anyone be critical of that practice, when it's being done in a way that means "Look over something, and accept what is true, and discard what is false"? Scripture even commands us to do that very thing! "Test everything. Hold on to the good." (1 Thess. 5:21)
People in general seem to think in terms of black and white now - it's my way or the highway, it's my guy, do or die! It's what leads to statements like "Obama is the Antichrist", or "All are going to hell". There is no wiggle room in such statements - no grace. And we are commanded to sprinkle our conversations with grace if we follow Christ. (Col. 4:6)
Perplexed, your statement that "There is no such thing as QANON" is a good example of a lack of nuance. Most high-schoolers doing an overnight assignment with their PC and a search engine could prove that false. Not to put words in your mouth, but perhaps left unsaid is that you believe it is some kind of psy-op or something, and not what it's popularly portrayed as. It exists. But what is the purpose of it?
Trump, as I see it, certainly has the potential to be dangerous, in the sense that Putin and his "brain" Dugin are dangerous. Others may fit into that mold as well.
We are in "pendulous" times. The pendulum may be swinging back toward a Totalitarian mindset, where people will embrace a ruler who will "take care of business" as he sweeps away all that is bad, and replaces it with "good".
For a further dive into what I mean, and some general thoughts about Trump that I wrote in March of 2016, check out this blog entry:
https://pleonast.com/users/markolinux/entries/685883-donald-trump-strongman-the-rise-of-the-anti-nwo
Some of the links in the piece I wrote don't work anymore. They may or may not exist in the internet archive. The general themes though, I still pretty much adhere to, although I'd add more caution about some of the dangers from the NAR / Dominionist folks. There is danger on the Left, and danger on the Right. Which is the most dangerous? That's where being able to reason with nuance comes into play.
"can we trust works written by a non-Christian about Trump through the lens of false Christianity?"
Nah, it's better to trust Gateway Pundit, zerohedge, or any works that praise Trump. Religious speak and a denial that QAnon exists makes them even more trustworthy. We can pretend the NAR prophets are just loony and don't have an agenda. We could bring in Dr. Michael Brown who insists that the NAR doesn't exist. Then we can live happily ever after, believing exactly what we want to believe - that is, until Tuesday, November 5, 2024, or 181 days from today.
The statement "All are going to hell" should read "All [fill in the blank with some sector of Christendom] are going to hell".
Hey Marko,
My wording regarding the issue of "QUANON" was not as precise as it could have been. Sorry about that.
The fact is - there is Q, and there are "anons" (people all over the world, most of them anonymous, who discuss/parse/debate what Q has written).
The term "QANON," by contrast, is a makey-uppey name used by the mainstream media to discuss Q and the anons - nearly always in a pejorative - and misleading - way. You can confirm this if you take the time to dig beyond what the mockingbird media has written about Q and the anons.
You don't have to like Q, or the anons, to use accurate language to describe them and their movement (and I use the term "movement" very loosely - it's more like a loose network, similar to how years ago there was a loose network of people who researched the New Age movement). The question is - why does the mainstream media use this contrived term? And why does Mrs. Cumbey?
Speaking personally, I'm a long-term anon who has zero interest in the grotesque books Mrs. Cumbey writes about here. I'm agnostic about Q at this point, but I remain interested in the subject, and I am still very pro-Trump, although I don't understand or agree with all his statements or policies. He is a mere human being after all.
*by "agnostic" I mean that I am agnostic as to whether or not Q is a psyop. If it is, it has been perhaps the most powerful psyop in history, like Operation Trust on steroids. Regardless of what Q is or isn't, it has been a Pandora's box that has certainly changed my view of the world forever, and I'm sure millions of anons would agree.
Q drops were published on Qanon.pub and are identified as QAnon on Trump's TRUTH Social. Mrs. Cumbey is using an accurate term.
Wolves in sheep's clothing
revolver.new/2024/05/rfk-jr-last-hope-gone/
tierneyrealnewsnetwork.substack.com/p/are-rand-paul-vivek-and-rfk-jr-working
The Q drops originated in 2017 on 4chan, migrated to 8chan, and eventually to Qanon.pub. It's the hub for many q-related sites. The terms anon and Qanon originated within the Q network. The movement didn't get much attention by mainstream media until late 2019, 2020.
@ 11:43 AM,
Re: The Elijah List website was created by Steve Shultz in 1997 and had 240,000 subscribers in 2023 and adding more daily. The Elijah List Facebook page has 427,000 followers as of today.
That is certainly a large number of followers; but, one must bear in mind this is not limited to US subscribers. Also, there are likely a number of non-adherents subscribing, such as apologists.
Thanks perplexed for the Q primer.
The Anonews feed I used to followed on Twitter seemed hopeful for awhile but at that time I was still going barefoot and had quit cutting my hair and beard (her idea). Then I began noticing (on their Twitter feed) little tweets here and there about the mystical benefits of going barefoot and advising not to cut your childrens hair (because). I lost any hope in them. No different then Bush/Cheney. And as I tell her - I will never go along with this type of behavior as long as I live.
PS: in times of anger I wished Peeping Tom's fate on them (and Bush/Cheney et al) for turning our lives upside down.
Happy mother's day all you moms
walking bareefootis grounding from new age and maybe some witchcraft. not cutting hair is so it can be an antenna. actually it seems the pony tail style started this way in the early 1900s when the occult scene in its more refined form was geting respectable.
Christine
" It's the hub for many q-related sites. The terms anon and Qanon originated within the Q network."
I checked Qanon.pub today and it looks like an aggregator of Q drops plus a search function. A hub for many q-related sites? Please list the names of some of these sites.
Regarding "Q-related sites" - the only websites I am aware of that most anons use to discuss Q + related issues are the defunct VOAT, and it's quasi-replacement, TGA.WIN. Moreover, there is still some relevant discussion on various Telegram sites and X.
Regarding the term "QANON" originating within the Q network - please link to the source on this. Anons overwhelmingly reject and despise the term "QANON" as a smear. For example:
https://greatawakening.win/p/12hkTldBrM/the-term-qanon-is-equivalent-to-/
Hi Craig - as regards the Elijah List - as Mrs. Cumbey always says - "follow the money"
Perplexed at 2:47 am You didn't scroll far enough, if you even bothered to check. The sites are highlighted in blue. Make your own list.
Hey Anonymous,
There is no justification for your ill-mannered demeanor when I have addressed you in good faith. I'm not wasting any more time with you. Bye bye and have a Trumptastic day.
Steve Schultz / Elijah List headlines Drew Bloom's latest "Friday Fruit Clips". Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3oe2af8aVk
To 4:39 AM I apologize if you thought I was offensive. I read your comments while I was trying to kill some time in the ER waiting room with a friend. I thought your comment was rude and demanding. I'll try to do better next time.
I've got a cousin-in-law who got tired of having to wash off her boots all the time working in the dairy barn (100 head) so she went barefoot once for a summer. And guess what, that year she grew six inches.
Her dad told everyone; see I told you sh*t makes things grow.
And as far as going barefoot one thing you learn is your feet get pretty dirty. When I see the pope pouring a little water on someone's foot then dabbing it dry with a towel I think he's missing the point somehow. When Jesus washed the Apostles feet He tied a towel around his waist (probably had a brush too)
Speaking of the pope:/
The Devil says jump and Bergoglio says what color (any guesses?)
Craig asked: In any case, can we trust works written by a non-Christian about Trump through the lens of false Christianity?
I thought that was a logical fallacy? Who knew you really do care about authorship.
For instance, the guys at the gateway pundit aren't even attempting to pretend to be Christians at all, let alone false Christians. They're homosexuals. Natural News...new age Scientologists. Zerohedge, russian propagandists. General Flynn, my pillow guy & "the family" are all heretical dominionists. Ludlow & Kellogg at Fox & Amerikkka First are trad roman catholic cultists & their heretical NAR ecumenical allies. Can we trust what they say about Trump or really anything through their lens of false and/or no Christianity, especially when there is ample evidence of their documented lies, deliberate obfuscation & zero accountability (unlike mainstream media, they are not licensed & do not have to retract or adhere to any journalistic standards)
Maga/Qanon is entirely a false Christian movement. Peterism is growing because of maga/qanon. It's given legs to rebellion theology & toxic masculinity which is attractive to disillusioned uneducated non-Christian lost young men (canon fodder). IMO, one of the main points of looking at that book and the 1000 (points of light) books/people like it IS to make that abundantly clear.
x
Constance,
Check out Jonathan Dane's book, "Rise of the Little Horn." It's on Amazon.
Everyone needs to stop and think your not going to stop what the good Lord has planned. You may think you can but in reality YOU WONT STOP WHAT GOD HAS IN MIND. GOD IS SMARTER THAN Trump
as I said before, the context in which God will allow the antichrist to take over and make tribulation against the believers and anyone else who refuses t worship him for whatever reason, is not here yet.
That contextis the fourth beast of Daniel chapter 7 and it doesn't inherit from but crushes the other three, and when it is destroyed at the Second Coming the other three are allowed to continue for a while.
clearly Daniel 7 is about present to future times.
Theusual consensus is that these are a rehashof or subsections of ancient kingdoms, but there isn't mush precedent for that,and verse 12 rules this own. the picture of what destroys the fourth beast is clearly the Second Coming of Christ from heaven
Meanwhile, idiots try to figure the prophecy of the rough goat and ram out one chases theo ther out of Macedonia - that already happened, that was about Alexander the Great overthrowing the Persian Empire.
An ancient church writer thought these were ancient kingdoms also but in those days they thought the Second Coming was "soon" in human terms, and had no notion of Russia or USA-UK-NATO being involved in anything, so had no framwork to work with. Russia had not yet been converted if I recall the writer's time correctly.
Christine
6:01 AM
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The truth about auroras!
tierneyrealnewsnetwork.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-auroras
Mitt Romney rips Republican politicians who’ve appeared at Trump trial:
“I think it's a little demeaning to show up in front of the courthouse — and particularly one where we're talking about an allegation of paying a porn star. And it's really, really very difficult to watch…There's a level of dignity and decorum that you expect the people who are running for the highest station in the land, and going out and prostrating themselves in front of the public to try and, apparently, curry favor with the person who's our nominee is embarrassing.”
Christ Hating DEVILS - New Age patriotic Mindwar
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=F8x3_IHov0z74y-F&v=_nYFde9f_rk&feature=youtu.be
Not much attention being paid to the coming central bank digital currency:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyfHXrs8m3A
I stop back once in a while to see what's happening here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEr3f5yt4m4
One more interesting thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYfmwjq-y1U
not sure I agree with his assessment.. He does an interesting timeline on Kate too.
That portrait must be a little unnerving for King Charles. Perhaps after the initial shock passes it will make more sense but in the meantime consider Queen Elizabeth's Balmoral photograph two days before her death. The Queen was standing before a blazing fire in Balmoral Castle smiling. The motto on the fireplace's mantle reads: “Nemo me impune lacessit” - “No-one provokes me with impunity.”
Rest in peace Madame
To 11:42
I have read Mr. Dane's EXCELLENT book about the Rise of the Little Horn that he prophetically wrote and released in 2016 and he had an update for post January 6, 2021. It, too, should be REQUIRED READING.
Constancw
To 3:41
Yes, we had good discussions in those days. If there is any "Trump Derangement" it is on the part of those buying into the MAGA/Trump/Qanon branch of the New Age Movement!
I did not spend years working to lead people out of New Age deception, only to lead them into worse Trump/MAGA/Trump deception.
Constance
I definitely could not recommend Gary Kah's work. He obviously bought into Ezra Pound/Eustace Mulllins "Illuminati"/anti-Zion forms of deception. I had a conversation about after I had a horrified reading of his book. I called Huntington House and asked how they could have published it. They said, "we published him at YOUR RECOMMENDATION." I said, "oh?" He said he had told you he was researching the New Age Movement himself and asked me for recommendations about seeking out a publisher. According to them, I then said, "yes, I met many peoople at Nancy Fitzgerald's house and it's possible I was asked about a publisher and I may have recommended you -- but that does not mean I read or endorsed his material." I then called Nancy Fitzerald, got Gary's phone number and called him. He was quite arrogant. He said, "nobody's criticized my book yet." He said, "you SHOWED me the material from Eustace Mullins and Ezra Pound -- but nobody told me they were bad but you." He promised he would recivse the book to eliminate that vicious anti-Jewish material, but he did not keep our appointments and left the offending evil material in.
Constance
To 3:42
The Ridgway books are accurate and well footnoted. If you think there is no such thing as Qanon (one of their latest lies -- that they don't exist -- that there is "either Q or ANON" --IF YOU BUY INTO THAT, YOU ARE EITHER TOTALLY DECEIVED YOURSELF, A KNOWN PROPAGATOR OF THOSE LIES -- AND OR BOTH.
Elijah Streams is a HUGE operation and it has the active cooperation of Eric Trump and Roger Stone (the self-confessed DIRTY TRICKSTER). Kat Kerr, Mr. Enlow, and many other on their "Patriots and Prophets" list are busy calling for military intervention and Trump as a world leader.
Constance
Constance,
Your Trump Derangement Syndrome is very advanced. You appear to be unable to distinguish between the Reawaken/Flynn Circus, and the broad MAGA movement. It's like being unable to distinguish between Constance Cumbey's work and the work of Eustace Mullins. How would YOU like to be conflated with Eustace Mullins? Well, that's what you are doing to the millions and millions who like Trump, but who have no interest in - or cannot stand the Reawaken/Flynn Circus.
What part of the Trump economy didn't you like? How about his foreign policy - what did you think of the Abraham accords?
Have you ever watched Trump's speeces, or do you rely only on what the mainstream media reports about them? Maybe your nose is stuck in your computer watching the Elijah Streams and you don't actually know what Trump is saying - sort of like being stuck in a Eustace Mullins book and ignoring Constance Cumbey's books and speeches.
"QANON" is a contrived term invented by the mainstream media. I explained this above but you are too unhinged with TDS to even comprehend or address it. What happened to that fine legal mind of yours?
Remember how Dorothy used to go on and on about Beatrice Webb and "provision for dissidents"? That's who I think of whenever I see the Elijah Streams & the Flynn Network (Circus).
Jesus Christ is perfect.
Trump is fabulous.
The state of the United States, and the world, is horrific.
QAnon: An Invitation to The Great Awakening
276 Pages · 2019
https://www.pdfdrive.com/qanon-an-invitation-to-the-great-awakening-e187749668.html
2:53 AM,
The only deranged and delusional person between you and Constance is you.
You are devoid of discernment and are blinded by your worship of Trump.
Trump worship is Trump Derangement Syndrome indeed. Even so, hey, project away - it’s obviously about all you can do because you have no concept of self-reflection beyond your own narcissistic fragilities.
Hey Anonymous 2:53,
Sounds like you are blinded by your worship of Mrs Cumbey! Lol
The horrific account of a family that escaped the Jim Jones' massacre in Guyana gives us a glimpse into how easily people are deluded by a madman and the consequences thereof. This reminds me of the growing, strong delusion of those blindly following and worshiping Donald J. Trump, yet it is nothing compared to the evil about to be unleashed by Trump, the World (including the harlot Dominionist and NAR so-called churches) against true followers of Jesus Christ, yet still in Him, Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, we are more than conquerers. For Trump may overcome the saints by murdering them, yet those saints shall be eternally with God in Paradise.
12 YO Escapes Death Cult Minutes Before Massacre | The Case of Tracy Parks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBzlRIpw8xI
Dear Constance,
If you haven’t seen this video yet, then I urge you to please do so. It is a year old, yet is very telling.
IDOLATROUS NEW AGE PATRIOTIC NATIONALISM
https://youtu.be/WIi-5gcjnH0?si=nFpgOLzMBlrRtsX8
Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
11:53 AM
Ridiculous, Miss, Trump has clearly stated his position: no more vaccine mandates. Drinkin' The Kool Aid is more a Biden thing.
Recognizing Toxic Leadership:
The Similarities of Jim Jones and Donald Trump
by Jordan Vilchez
Like many people in the United States, I voted in the 2020 election, then witnessed the assault on the electoral process that is fundamental to our democracy. It was shocking to watch Donald Trump and his supporters attempt to overturn the election over unfounded claims of election fraud, even after all the lawsuits had all been dismissed. Even when he had less than a month left to serve, he was nothing less than a loose cannon, wielding his power in extreme ways, inciting the January 6 attack on the Capitol, anything he could do to overturn his decisive loss to Joe Biden.
We watched analysts and pundits, public servants on every level of government and every-day citizens scratching their heads, witnessing Donald Trump’s behavior as his presidency was coming to a close. We all wondered when he would come to his senses, believing that surely he would rise above his disappointment and desire for ultimate power to assume the public servant position he was elected to fulfill. This of course would mean putting the well-being of the American people first, ensuring a smooth transition of power. Given his behavior of the previous three-and-a-half years, we should have known that wasn’t going to happen. Clearly, while he was in charge, his only goal was to stay in charge, and the rest of it – the American people, American institutions, American democracy itself – be damned.
I could not sleep the night before January 6, 2021. I knew in my bones that something was going to happen, and that it would not be good. How did I know? Donald Trump’s behavior was all too familiar to me. As I observed everything that happened between election day and the eve of the insurrection, I was transported back to my own first-hand experience of witnessing what happened with another man when the world closed in on him, was on a swift slide towards losing his power. He could not be bailed out for his transgressions, nor pay anyone to cover up his behavior, nor escape the carnage of his own socio-pathological behavior. Like Donald Trump, this man was willing to take everyone down with him.
That man was Jim Jones and our group was Peoples Temple. When it was all over for him, he saw to it that it was over for everyone, and more than 900 people died as a result.
Although we in the Temple espoused principles of freedom, human dignity, and social justice – the basic tenets of our nation – the followers displayed a well-meaning façade, even as we saw those ideals succumb to the whims of our leader. We came to believe that what he said and did, signified the means to achieve those ideals. He spewed cynicism and disdain, and denigrated people from those in government to those within our own ranks, and we became accustomed to it all. We were browbeaten and filled with fear and despair rather than a vision of vibrant possibility and hope. Worst of all, we became inured to it all. And in the end, did not Trump’s lies about election fraud become a thing of normalcy rather than an aberration? Shouldn’t we have considered that an intolerable assault on the trust of the people of our nation?
Continued from 1;14 AM
The striking similarities between Jim Jones and Donald Trump stem from a deep and desperate need never to yield center stage. The world of Donald Trump revolves around him, and him alone. The level of Trump’s self-centeredness – as it was with Jones, –is incomprehensible to the average person. People see him as weird, bold, brazen, shameless and laughable, but somehow the magnitude of danger he poses seems to escape his many enablers and supporters. The same was true for us. The danger we faced as members of Peoples Temple escaped our awareness.
When we experience things beyond the scope of our comprehension, we tend to tolerate questionable behavior, because somewhere within us we want to believe that there is some good reason for it, that the leader knows best. Perhaps some think that he will eventually come around to more normalized behavior and predictable actions. For many, the drama of Trump has had purely entertainment value. With sociopaths and malignant narcissists however, we cannot waste time trying to figure out what’s going on in their heads. We tend to see danger only as something huge and terrible happens, and then we are forced to take a deeper look, and salvage what we can.
Consider:
Obsession with power over others
To satisfy his own sense of importance, Jim had to connect with and seek approval of those people whom he saw as powerful. His association with them and their endorsement of him stoked his ego and made him feel significant. This was evident in his relationship with San Francisco Mayor George Moscone, First Lady Rosalynn Carter, California Lt. Governor Mervyn Dymally, Angela Davis, Laura Allende, the sister of slain Chilean president Salvador Allende. His connections also spread out to those who had different ethics than ours – for example, with the head of the far-right leaning John Birch Society in Ukiah, California – because having an “in” with them gave him an even wider range of power. In Guyana, he cultivated a friendship with prominent government leaders, including Prime Minister Forbes Burnham, but he also cozied up to Cheddi Jagan, the leader of the opposition.
In similar fashion, Trump entered the White House with his own connections already established, but his ego was further inflated by questionable relations with Vladimir Putin of Russia, one of our long-standing political adversaries. For him, this seductive alliance fundamentally meant that he could feel a level of personal power and grandiosity that could not be satisfied by tending to the duties of his position alone.
Continued from 1;16 AM
Boldness is misunderstood as charismatic benevolence
A common trait with people like Trump and Jones is audacious and cocksure behavior. We tend to think of audacious behavior and public boldness as passionate commitment to matters of importance. Many even perceive it as benevolent. But we don’t necessarily see that it can mask danger. Peoples Temple, a small organization in comparison to our nation as a whole, had such serious flaws that 900 people died. And such flaws manifested themselves on a larger scale with Trump as well, as hundreds of thousands of COVID deaths occurred as a result of his hate, narcissism, and negligence, even without considering the very real damage and diminishment of the human spirit stemming from his animosity towards women, immigrants, and people of color.
We didn’t really understand Jim’s personal insecurity and deep-seated need to feel important and in control of the world around him. We believed that his bold, passionate, and often outrageous demeanor meant that he cared. What we couldn’t see was that more than anything, he wanted to be seen as powerful in the eyes of everyone, from his followers, to the outside world, and especially to those in positions of political power.
Sowing division and confusion
Jim was constantly sowing division among us – telling lies, pitting people against each other – in order to create discord in relationships. In his view, weakening others strengthened him. He even turned against individuals in his most loyal and trusted inner circle, if he had any inkling that their allegiance was faltering or waning. As his paranoia increased – as he presented more and more reasons for people to question his leadership, even his worthiness as a leader – we entered a downward spiral into a cesspool of despair and hopelessness, further fueling his paranoia.
For Trump this was evident in the way that Trump pitted his followers against anyone who crossed him, including – especially –those Republicans who wanted to move on and acknowledge the Biden win. Like Jim, if Trump was upset, everyone had to suffer in some way. Trump created fear among his followers, particularly average working-class citizens, who became frightened that the country would go into a tailspin without him in power, and the ensuing division and confusion has only been gratifying to him.
Read more here:
https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=111300
Lawmaker shot at Jonestown compares Trump to cult leader Jim Jones.
Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA), who was shot by members of the Peoples Temple during the 1978 Jonestown Massacre, says she sees similarities between cult leader Jim Jones and former President Donald Trump in the way they use their charisma to connect with disillusioned American and act as "merchants of deceit." Speier was shot five times on an airstrip in Guyana while accompanying a lawmaker to investigate the nearby cult.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RReRlY88-7o
Congresswoman Shot At Jonestown Compares Donald Trump To Cult Leader Jim Jones
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2021/08/01/congresswoman-shot-at-jonestown-compares-donald-trump-to-cult-leader-jim-jones/?sh=2bba135a4974
Have you ever watched a Trump rally? They are filled with fun, encouragement, and common sense. Trump has a great sense of humor and he is always highlighting the accomplishments of ordinary people and turning the spotlight on them. He isn't a politician - he is an American.
As Trump says, "In America we don't worship government - we worship God." No wonder so many people from so many walks of life all over the world admire him so much. He is a breath of fresh air.
The phrase "CULT LEADER," however, reminds me of this for some reason:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-shocks-viewers-hellish-red-background-polarizing-speech
Anonymous 9:10PM
Yes, Trump wants people to freely choose whether or not to take a vaccine.
Meanwhile, millions of people who would describe themselves as "MAGA" ignored his promotion of the "Trump vaccine" and remain unvaccinated.
By contrast, everyone I know who hates Trump is...vaxxed and boosted...with the "Trump vaccine." Oh the irony. Can you say cognitive dissonance? Branch Covidians? lol.
If Trump is a "cult leader" who wants people to get vaccinated - he is a very very very poor and ineffective one lol.
He can stick the "Trump vaccine" up his a*se as far as I am concerned lol.
But still...TRUMP 2024. MAGA!!!
4:05 AM,
Indeed. I have watched the Dayton, Ohio rally in full, where Trump threatened a 'bloodbath'. It was a most vile, Nazi, hateful, treasonous debacle I have ever seen. If that is your idea of fun, then you are very far from love of Jesus Christ, and you're far from the sound mind God gives His children.
There's nothing 'fun' about evil, and there's everything evil about what Trump does and utters.
Anonymous 4:05
Great example of the wrap-up smear.
"Bloodbath" is a term of art that referred to the economy (auto industry specifically). You would know this if you had actually watched the speech!
Does Jesus Christ want you to continue to twist the words of others, and thus bear false witness, to suit your agenda?
I wouldn't be caught dead at a Trump rally on the other hand Biden rallys look fun
BLM Protesters march toward Portland mayor Ted Wheeler's house
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpVDCIdAB2A
Be sure to put up your Biden signs this summer if you don't want your windows broke
Brood of Vipers!
tierneyrealnewsnetwork.substack.com/p/brood-of-vipers
9:01 AM,
I watched the entirety of the speech and commented upon it at length a few topics ago here.
Trump was instigating violence, were he not to get elected. Either YOU haven’t watched the full speech, or you are too dishonest and too stupid to think lying about it here would prove useful to you.
Anonymous 11:45,
I can't figure out whether you are part of the Flynn Circus (provision for dissidents, as Dorothy would have said), an angry RINO, or just a garden variety Commie. If you watched the Dayton speech and drew that conclusion, you would probably be at home with the Trump-haters who can't define what a woman is (they've redefined all kinds of other words too). Who would you like to see as president of the United States? Is anyone good enough for you?
Perplexed....
I'm not picking up a lot of what you're laying down, but I agree with you on this:
""Bloodbath" is a term of art that referred to the economy (auto industry specifically). You would know this if you had actually watched the speech!"
The way the media has taken that quote out of context is shocking, even for them.
Hi Marko,
It's called a wrap-up smear. They used the same technique for the "very fine people" hoax. These people are supposed to be impartial yet they twist his words on a regular basis.
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