Yesterday, our Detroit Lions were approaching a cold weather Green Bay football game that they won. Of course, most Michiganders, myself included, were happy. I've been to Green Bay, spoken in Green Bay, and they were wonderful people when I was back there during the 80s. But home team is home team. I'm not so sure Rich of Medford (Wisconsin) was thrilled. He's probably a little distance from Green Bay -- but Wisconsin is his home.
That being said, I wasn't quite as thrilled pre-game by normal news coverage being bypassed for pre-game interviews and telecasts. WDIV, our NBC station, carried the game and its pre-events. I switched to ABC after the usual 6:30 national news did not play. Sometimes most of the news is so bad that I will turn off the TV and ask "Google Home" to play "nice classical music" for me. Such was the case yesterday. Consequently, I did not get normal "breaking news" notices on the bigger screen TV until 6:33 when I made the station change. I watched with my mouth open --- Brazil, just over 2 years to the day was experiencing its own insurrection -- former President Bolsonaro claiming he had won the election over DaSilva when he had not and his believing supporters looting and damaging critical governmental buildings.
Immediately, I dialed Rich of Medford (Richard Peterson) and screamed "this has Steve Bannon's fingerprints all over it!"
A few months ago, I read a critical book about Steve Bannon whom I once admired. The brilliant book by Benjamin Teitelbaum is WAR FOR ETERNITY, It was about Steve Bannon and, the Traditionalist cult of which he is a critical global leader and Donald Trump's role in it as "the chosen one."
That book was disturbingly revealing. Bannon and Trump have done a very good job of convincing many Christians they are our friends. However, in this book, I learned that Catholic-raised Bannon had Theosophical leanings. During his navy career he frequented occult book shops and in a remote eastern Asia port purchased one book that particularly influenced him in a favorable way -- THE SECRET DOCTRINE by none other than Helena Petrovna Blavatsky. That was the book Kennedy killer Sirhan Sirhan requested when first sent to his cell after his arrest for the 1968 Robert F, Kennedy assassination. Sirhan is Moslem. He did not request a Bible, he did not request a Koran -- he wanted the Blavatsky book. To give Madame Blavatsky her perspective, she named their initial Theosophical Society magazine "Lucifer."
There was an international circle of those combinging occult beliefs with a bastardized form of "traditionalism" where nationalist interests were to maintain their long standing traditions -- be they Hindu, Christian, Buddhist, Tao, or whatever! Putin's advisor Aleksandr Dugin, the mapper of his Ukraine strategy was part of the group. Bannon held secret meetings with Dugin in 2018, per Teitelbaum.
I recognized immediately what was happening. I had my computer off for most of the day. Immediately after I phoned Rich (Rich Peterson), I then googled and saw that many others had made identical observations. I do not know if they were familiar with Teitelbaum's book or not, but they did recognize Bannon and his tactics. Moreover, it was reported that Trump advisors Bannon and Miller had met with Bolsonaro psot-election and told him to deny election results!
Bannon was one of the principal purveyors of the election denial issue. He has continued to loudly and vocally repeat it plus predictions that they will prevail and take over. Their international circle included figures such as Bolsonaro of Brazil, Dugin of Russia, Viktor Orban of Hungary, Marine LePen of France. Their propaganda and think tank production site was an occult and "esoteric Nazism" publisher now located in Hugary named Arktos. Ironically, one of the founders was a New Age activist from Ann Arbor, Michigan, one John R. Morgan.
Bannon's boasts are very real. As I said in the comments section, Qanon is organized in 71 countries at one of the last counts. The New Age "radical middle" come together as global fascism and left wing Marxism merge. Too many Trump followers sre sympathetic to Putin (via Dugin part of the same circle) and buying the lies that the Ukraine is a Nazi country.
Furthermore, the events are certain to come back and be a justification for persecution of Christian believers who defend whatever Bannon and Trump espouse.
Events are disturbing. Let us pray for discernment, "lead us not into temptation and deliver us from evil."
CONSTANCE
285 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 285 of 285That's okay, I'm all done ranting. I didn't see much to rant about from the latest comments. They were pretty content-free. The insults were lame, too.
The projection was boring and predictable.
I'm off to seek more interesting reading.
It is incredible how the Pharisees will gnaw, and claw to defend their preferred IMAGE of Babylon.
Matthew 23:15 "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves."
P.S. Christianity 101. Righteous anger about injustice is not bad. Vengeance is bad. Anger that serves personal pride or vanity is bad.
The Cumbey cult? 11:31 AM Is in here day in and day out. #1 cult member!
Yes J, I get Righteously angry about injustice.
If you believe this J, and Constance, why are you so myopic, and far left! You should be able to see this clearly! Maybe pray to the Lord for some eye salve?
Revelation 3:18
L counsel you to buy from me gold refined by the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness: and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.
12:19 PM Needs to pick the log out of his own eye. There, I judge you too.
Here's some injustice J,
UK DOCTORS HAVE DOUBLED ANTIPSYCHOTIC PRESCRIPTION TO CHILDREN AND YOUTH: STUDY
blacklistednews.com/article/84000/uk-doctors-have-doubled-antipsychotic-prescriptions-to-children-and-youth.html
12:28 PM,
Thank you, I will continue the work of looking inward.
How are you doing?
Will a Loaf of Bread Cost $18 in 2023!?
endtimesforcaster.blogspot.com/2023/01/will-loaf-of-bread-cost-18-in-2023.html
12:19 PM,
You have no idea the logs I've picked out of my eyes since my conversion a few years ago. You seem to think you know so much about me.
Trust me when I tell you I have been through a lot. I've experienced times of being very blessed, times when I thought I wasn't blessed but something bad caused me to make the right decision, and times when I was fairly sure I was being chastened by Jesus.
Oddly enough, I find Jesus in the Bible and in my prayer experiences. I don't necessarily find Jesus in internet media targeted towards manipulating conservative Christian voters.
What I find is a lot of selectivity and twisting of the application of scripture. At least there is not hostility to Christians and the Bible.
I don't know how to take your admonishments, other than to wonder if you actually believe that God's will is expressed through Donald Trump's followers and God's truth is revealed through the internet media that targets them.
If I'm wrong about my social inference regarding you, please say how I'm wrong; because you tend to say very bold and judgmental things with no elaboration and no examples. I'm not sure how you communicate in real life, but you don't communicate well in here.
12:32 PM,
Psychotropic meds have been overly prescribed to kids for a long time. In many - but not all - instances, they don't need treatment. In many - but not all - instances, they need medical treatment to address physiological and neurological root causes.
I've seen stories of medical kidnapping when parents were treating their children medically and refusing psychotropic meds.
Of course getting angry about it is righteous. Exposing it is good. Helping people going through it is even better.
But kids being over medicated and over diagnosed is not the subject of this blog.
Regarding my position on Ray Epps, the following may provide enough illumination.
I have never said Trump bears no responsibility. At minimum, he should have pleaded with rioters to go home—and much sooner. I have also never said those who breached the Capitol, etc. bear no personal responsibility. Each person is individually culpable for his/her own actions. That’s not to say there weren’t some really odd things that occurred there that day that could have fueled the outcome (why no extra LEO; who opened the doors?).
Something is definitely amiss with the handling of Epps. To deny that is to deny the reality of the evidence. The J6 Committee not only overlooked evidence that conflicted with his testimony (chronology, e.g.), they gave him preferential treatment. J6 ran cover for him (re “I orchestrated it”) in the form of ‘leading the witness’ during his testimony, such that he was able to essentially self-exonerate—though an adequate cross-examination would have exposed this ploy.
In the face of public scrutiny of events surrounding him and reactions to them, portions of the legacy media ran cover for Epps. Some politicians ran cover for him.
Two or more things can be true at once. This simple concept appears to elude not a few on this forum. Too many have difficulty perceiving false dichotomies.
And, for the record, I personally know someone who quit the FBI because of its bending to the whims and wiles of Millennial ideologies (that’s a paraphrase of how he put it). He was essentially told to do some things that, in good conscience, he couldn’t do. So he retired early. And, because this apparently matters to some here, he is a Black man.
And here are some tangential comments:
Disagreement with Constance or anyone here does not in and of itself constitute misogyny or any kind of -ism.
I have my own blog. In fact, I recently posted a short self-admonition. Perhaps some here might benefit: Is Jesus Christ Lord and Savior?
I've seen a story of an autistic boy who chopped his mother's head off with a sword after going off his Risperidone. It's stories like this that I have in mind when I say "but not all." Don't be too quick to judge mothers who are doing the best they can. Not all have resources. Some just listen to experts.
I was posting at the same time as Craig. I didn't mean to post right over it. I'm going to take some time to read about and think about Craig's post before responding to it.
I think this part needs an immediate response from me while I ponder the rest of the comment.
"Disagreement with Constance or anyone here does not in and of itself constitute misogyny or any kind of -ism."
I never said it did, and I never said your name. I never used the word "misogynist" or "misogyny."
I made a social inference. Nothing more and nothing less. I could be wrong, and I hope I am wrong.
J,
Ok; in the context of your (ambiguous as to your specific intended audience) comment, in place of misogyny, try this near-synonymous -ism: sexism.
J,
So what might the "-ism" be when myriad commentators here disagrees with X? Maybe "X-ism"?
I've noticed a sustained pattern in the comments section over the years. With two commenters, they were always that way.
With most other negative commenters, it became worse after Constance wrote openly against Trump. It intensifies each time she disagrees.
I come from a long line of caretakers and enablers. There is something familiar to me about the way people behave when they expect somebody to shut up in the face of their anger.
It's not just one person, and it's not just one time.
Oh, come on. Like I've never disagreed with X or made fun of him, even. He's not even around right now.
J,
I'm poking fun, now. But, I'm weary of folks searching for victimology everywhere.
I don't think it helpful at all to make such accusatory (sans evidence) statements.
And, for the record, I purposefully did not address my main comment, and the main portion of that comment, to anyone in particular, as I wanted to include both Constance and X--as well as any overly partial Trump supporters.
Barry's cages filled to the brim,
Wetbacks survival, such a stupid whim;
Putin and Jens sell missiles cheap,
Joe's stomach turns, his skin creeps....
High Priest of trans-boys,
More sewage for thee;
Nuclear winter coming,
Fowch spreads his disease;
Craig 2:43 PM,
Good pun about X-ism. I should have known.
I think political divisiveness is getting to me. It's like that grouchy feeling during election season when there are too many political ads. Yet it never completely goes away anymore. Ever since Trump, it never has gone away, ever since.
NOT to blame it all on him. The media changed, and it was a permanent change, apparently.
It's a sign I need a break from the blog, and the blog needs a break from me.
I read your post on your blog, Craig.
On point!
And don't feel alone!
How true of us all as followers of Christ to need a "heart checkup" here and there.
Thanks for being candid.
A question I need to ask myself sometimes and allow to sink in:
Is Christ my life or just important?
On the evening of February 20, 1990, Robert Simon and Anthony Carr — both black — were burgling Carl Parker’s house in Lambert, in Mississippi’s Quitman County. Mr. Parker, along with three other family members — all white — arrived home to find a pickup truck loaded with loot just about to drive off. The surprised thieves held the Parker family at gun point and tied up Mr. Parker’s 12-year-old half-brother Greg and then shot him in the back. They raped and sodomized his nine-year-old half-sister Charlotte Jo before they killed her. They shot his stepmother, Bobbie Jo in the chest, and they also killed Carl Parker himself. They cut off his ring finger to get his wedding band — whether before or after they killed him is not known. Then they dragged the four bodies into Mr. Parker’s house and burned it down over them.
[Allen Breed, Price of Justice Makes Poor County Even Poorer, Detroit News, March 21, 1999, p. 19A. First reported by American Renaissance in July 1999.]
In April, 1993, five Brooklyn “youths” found a white woman jogging alone on the Coney Island boardwalk. They dragged her under the boardwalk, where they took turns raping, sodomizing, punching, and kicking her. The crime, committed against a recent immigrant to the United States, caused a stir at the time. In May of 1995, the “youths” were given plea-bargained sentences that ranged from four-to-ten years to seven-to-21 years. They showed utterly no remorse, and laughed and joked as their lawyers spoke with the judge. One convict’s mother then claimed her son got a harsh sentence because he was black. “When did you ever hear of anyone getting 20 years for rape?” she wanted to know. A father ranted about blacks being persecuted by a white criminal justice system.
[Andrea Peyser, Why Coney Island Thugs will laugh all the way to prison, NY Post, 5/9/95, p. 8. First reported by American Renaissance in July 1995.]
In 1993, two teen-aged blacks were sitting in a Milwaukee fast-food restaurant wondering whom to rob. They decided on Christine Schweiger because she was white, and they figured that a white woman was less likely to carry a gun than a black. They accosted Miss Schweiger and her ten-year-old daughter on the way to their car and ordered Miss Schweiger onto her knees. She complied, but explained that she had no money.
In reply, the blacks blew her brains out with a sawed-off shotgun.
Chante Mallard is a black, 25-year-old nurse’s assistant. On October 26, 2001, she crashed her car into a white pedestrian, who ended up stuck in the windshield with half his body hanging into the passenger side of the car. Miss Mallard reportedly drove to her Ft. Worth, Texas, home, parked in her garage, went into the house, and had sex with her boyfriend. The two then came out to the garage to have a look at Greg Biggs, who was still alive and stuck in the car. Miss Mallard kept the car in the garage for 48 hours, during which time she came out several times to talk to the man, who begged for help. She did nothing for him, and the man, who was homeless and suffered from mental problems, bled to death.
Miss Mallard then got her boyfriend and several friends to help her dislodge Mr. Biggs’ body and dump it in a park. Police found the body soon after, and concluded it must have been a hit-and-run case, but had no leads. Several months afterwards, Miss Mallard explained to a group of people why she was no longer driving. “I hit this white man,” she explained, and giggled. On February 25 someone who heard her say this reported it to the police. Officers found Miss Mallard’s car still in her garage, with the windshield and front seats removed, but with Mr. Biggs’ blood and hair still on it. Miss Mallard said she had burned the seats to get rid of the evidence, and planned to burn the car and buy a new one when her tax refund check arrived.
Miss Mallard was charged with murder, and was at first held on $10,000 bail at home with an electronic monitor, but prosecutors had bail raised to $250,000 to keep her in jail. Her lawyer says she is not a monster but a confused woman who was drunk and using Ecstacy when she hit Mr. Biggs, and didn’t know what she was doing.
[Judge Raises Bail of Hit-Run Suspect to $250,000, AP, March 9, 2002.
The last few posts were made by an imposter. When I post here again, I'll do so under a Blogger ID. I won't post as just "J" anymore. I don't intend to post anonymously, either.
Those last few stories are stories about SIN. Sin is the HUMAN condition.
"Those last few stories are stories about SIN. Sin is the HUMAN condition."
Yes, as you search for schools in 'good' neighborhoods only and lock your doors quick whilst you drive in some, but not others.
Interesting the Russian trolls switch tactics when the get frustrated and can’t control the narrative here anymore by relegating to base anti-Semeticism and racism in order to stoke discontent among us more discerning and concerned Christians. As J pointed out, simple contradiction, insults and disagreement is not an argument or evidence. Truth is not tribal.
Re: American Renaissance:
Founded by Jared Taylor in 1990, the New Century Foundation is a self-styled think tank that promotes pseudo-scientific studies and research that purport to show the inferiority of blacks to whites — although in hifalutin language that avoids open racial slurs and attempts to portray itself as serious scholarship. It is best known for its American Renaissance magazine and website, which regularly feature proponents of eugenics and blatant anti-black racists. The foundation also sponsors American Renaissance conferences every other year where racist "intellectuals" rub shoulders with Klansmen, neo-Nazis and other white
Source: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/american-renaissance
J
It was obviously not you (absent being tied to a coherent rational point for sharing such old dark brutish journalism)
I don’t concern myself too much with such unbiblical behavior. Such attacks only confirm your/our shared thoughts are upsetting to self-identifying Luciferians
X
Re "Steve Horn, Independent Journalist" -- I'm sorry, but I went to his site and it has obvious Qanon/MAGA/Election denial material written all over it. I suspect he was in Washington, DC as a participant/observer -- not as an independent journalist!
Sorry, but that's hwo I see it.
Constance
Constance,
Once again, the genetic fallacy. It doesn't matter if this Horn guy is QAnon, a Satanist, or whatever. What matters is the truthfulness of his testimony. What does the video show? That's the only question we need answered. Epps was there on the other side of the Capitol, AFTER he was right at initial point of breaking the perimeter barrier.
I should have added to the above. This chronology contradicts his J6 testimony--which the committee just glossed right over.
In view of this Ray Epps thing, I’m really disappointed in Constance, J, and X. All three want/wanted to force this into the false dichotomy of, in essence, ‘any criticism of Epps is tantamount to supporting a “Fedsurrection” (or the more ridiculous wholly Epps-led insurrection) over against a wholly Trump-led insurrection”. Well, I propose a tertium quid, a third thing. This is exemplified in paragraphs 2, 3, 4, and 5 (1 being my initial sentence/paragraph) in my 1:27 PM comment above.
The J6 transcripts solidified it for me.
All three of you went out of your way to ignore or downplay or discard/disregard any Epps related evidence to continue with your own stance.
And, relatedly: Matt Taibbi: This is the key takeaway of the Twitter Files
Fox News
Independent journalist Matt Taibbi joined 'Sunday Morning Futures' to discuss the significance of the Twitter Files and the politicization of the social media platform.
Unrelated, but this recent development has me concerned:
AMA2023P How Amazons AMZ Token is stomping the markets RIGHT NOW
Where will this go?
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Completely unrelated. Sort of comic relief--but in a sense not funny! The following skits are from 7 years ago--spoofs on the ridiculosity of Wokeism. Yet they are scarily accurate portrayals of college campuses, etc.
#Equality
Modern Educayshun
This is all so plain now. Twitter Files has ripped the scab off of this awful sore yet still disregarded by people who claim they are all about finding and knowing the truth. Honestly, I don't think they are ready for it,
but in the interim you have been serving the truth well, Craig.
No wonder powerful self-serving people, up to no good, have suppressed the truth in unrighteousness (referenced in Romans 1:18).
But the truth is the truth even though it may come from the unexpected or unlikely, like Balaam's donkey's mouth.
Anon 11:32 PM,
Thanks for your comment. There's so much going on, but too many are stuck on TDS.
I don't know what readers here will do. On the one hand Taibbi was VERY critical of Trump and Trump supporters, but on the other hand the segment above is on Fox News. Oh, what to do!
ANY criticism of Trump is TDS, right Scarecrow?
Anon 6:59 AM,
“Scarecrow”, eh? To whom do I now have the pleasure of engaging? “Strawman”? (I’ve even used the Left-leaning Snopes in my hyperlink for ya.)
Allow me to quickly blow down your straw man fallacy. I now direct you to my 1:27 PM comment above (which I just referenced at 10:50 PM, had you been paying attention):
I have never said Trump bears no responsibility. At minimum, he should have pleaded with rioters to go home—and much sooner. I have also never said those who breached the Capitol, etc. bear no personal responsibility. Each person is individually culpable for his/her own actions. That’s not to say there weren’t some really odd things that occurred there that day that could have fueled the outcome (why no extra LEO; who opened the doors?).
Now, I do believe a careful reading of this selection will yield that I myself criticized Trump.
- “The (TDS) force is strong in this one.”
Craig speaks with forked tongue.
Anon 8:09 AM,
Examples, por favor.
Craig,
It's not an "oddity" that Epps hasn't been charged. The short video clip shared by blogger Steven Horn only shows what could be Epps (assuming it's him and/or not altered) putting his hand(s) in the air as a large metal sign holding a Trump banner moves over his head and towards the line of Capitol police bravely attempting to protect our Country. There is no idication he was actually involved at that moment or at any other time with direct insurrection (though I would welcome further evidence at any time and hope he gets arrested too, if found).
Unlike Epps and maybe a hundred others who merely touched that metal sign and didn't get charged with anything, apparently.... the four people that have been charged/convicted of crimes for the actions on Jan 6th that included the sign ALSO had MULTIPLE witnessed documented visual evidence supporting their OTHER misbehavior that day. Remember...there were thousands of people involved and only 978, so far, have been charged with anything so the Justice Department is handling matters judiciously, going after the most serious offenders first and, perhaps, those less convictable, naive, uninvolved are getting a pass. The law is nuanced (politics not so much). In general, Prosecutors pursue only cases they can win. There is a substantial difference between being caught on video touching a large metal sign moving overhead versus "hoisting" or "pushing" a metal sign assertively assualting police officers. In the video, Epps appears to me to put his hand INSIDE the metal frame as though he considered, for a moment, trying to pull it away from the direction of the Capitol Officers to, perhaps, protect them? I don't know but I'd like to see the more full clip of that event.
As far as the four others whose charges included assault with a metal trump sign:
Marshall Neefe: Besides "hoisting" a metal Trump Sign at Capitol Police officers, Marshall Neefe also entered the Capitol Building and assualted Capitol Police officers with a wooden club.
Jonathan Copeland: Faced 7 charges that day including entering the Capitol Building, assaulting a cameraman, and directly assertively assaulting Capitol Police with a large metal Trump sign. The arrest warrants statement of facts indicated... "Copeland shoves the large metal framed Trump banner into officers"
Convicted child rapist, Sean McHugh was caught on video assertively assualting the Capitol Police with a large metal trump sign AND, separately, spraying an unknown chemical into a
line of uniformed Police Officers.
Thomas Hamner: charged with fighting directly with Capitol Police and, separately, for assertively assaulting Capitol Police with a large metal sign.
Also note -- this kind of prosecutorial discretion isn't new. Crowds and protests often get out of hand and only the instigators and most egregious get caught and charged with anything. Unless you can find more, the absence of prosecution in the Epps matter isn't an "oddity" at all. Thousands have gotten away with their Maga "crimes" that day and many more people that touched that metal sign aren't being prosecuted than have been prosecuted.
x
p.s. - I know a younger man that went to the Trump rally Jan 6th and I texted him on Jan 5th to warn him not to get caught up in mob mentality and doing anything illegal or stupid. I reminded him he has young children and a wife at home. I wasn't being political or telling him he was dumb. I just didn't want to see him in jail as anyone with any knowledge of history could foresee that the Jan 6th rally was a physically and criminally dangerous political event that could easily get out of hand. My point is...nobody there really needed Epps (or any supposed FBI/gov agency) to charge them up. Epps and others were symtpoms of an actual TDS infection...not the virus itself.
X,
That may be. Though your "nobody there really needed Epps (or any supposed FBI/gov agency) to charge them up" is pure speculation.
But, since you've gone to all this effort, I now challenge you to look at the timing of Epps' tweet "And I orchestrated it" to his nephew and compare it to his testimony to J6 via the timing of his appearance at the first breaching of the perimeter wall and his appearance at the large metal sign incident. Also, pay close attention to how the J6 questioner 'led the witness [Epps]'.
'Splain all that.
X,
As to your "Steven Horn only shows what could be Epps", here's another angle of Epps at the scene. In the link below, scroll to the video just above the statement "Ray Epps has never been arrested for directing the crowds into the US Capitol on January 6." At 3:04 you can clearly see him walking up to the police line, then turn around and say something to the throng:
MUST SEE VIDEO: Ray Epps Hurled Massive Trump Sign at Police on Jan. 6 – But Was Never Arrested While Others Got 41 Months in Prison!
Now, to be clear, I'm not saying I agree with the assertion in the title; I'm merely showing the video so you can tell this is indeed Epps.
Craig,
It's not "pure speculation" -- the rhetoric and lies from election day through Jan 6th and their effect/affect on a certain element/subset of persons within the Maga and/or Qanon movements at large are well documented.
Read Marshall Neefe's Statement of Offense: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1498601/download
On December 22, 2020, Marshall Neefe facebook messaged his co-conspirator, the convicted 'insurrectionist', Brad Smith saying: "we goin?... cause hot damn son i really wanna crack some commie skulls"
Just a taste of the well-documented ill-informed premeditation that well proceeded Jan 6th.
Where is the evidence of Epps "orchestrating" such and if he really was a government provocateur intent on denying such, why brag about "orchestrating" anything?
Oh...I just figured out another explanation...
That "orchestration" text was a 2:12 pm Jan 6th. Epps referred to it as being braggy and boastful. Epps testified he thought the Capitol building would be open to the public so his comments to the crowds on Jan 5th and 6th about going "into" the Capitol aren't even intentionally provoking criminality. But what's important to note is that the windows were smashed and the terrorists entered the building at just 2:11 pm. There's no way Epps could have taken responsibility for "orchestrating" the most eggregious part of the Jan 6th riots -- the actual breach of the Capitol building while exchanging tweets with his nephew.
So maybe you should revisit Epps testimony from an 'unbiased source' (no such thing):
A committee member asked Epps, "Help us understand this text. What did you mean by ‘orchestrate’? What did you orchestrate?"
"What I meant by ‘orchestrate,’ I helped people get there," Epps said. "At that point, I didn’t know that they were breaking into the Capitol. I didn’t (know) windows had been broken. I didn’t know anybody was in the Capitol."
He said he texted his nephew those words because he was proud.
"I mean, I wasn’t proud of some people, but for the majority of the people there, they were pretty peace-loving people. I mean, they were like me. The atmosphere was good except for those people that were trying to take it in a different direction."
A committee member later asked him: "So, you were proud of orchestrating the energy, the march to the Capitol, the expression of strongly held views about the election, but not the violent part, the part that made you turn away?"
"Yeah, exactly. I mean, it’s an embarrassment," Epps said. "What they did took away from everything. Who’s going to listen to anybody when something like that’s going on?"
Epps told the committee that "orchestrating" was the wrong word, in retrospect. He told the committee that when things turned ugly, he no longer wanted to go inside the Capitol. Epps said he tried to help law enforcement officers and talk down rioters who were becoming violent.
"We made our point. We don’t need to escalate it any further. It needs to stop," Epps said he told people. "I don’t know. It was a mess."
Epps said he left the premises after helping carry someone who had a medical emergency away from the building. He did not go inside, he said.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/jan/06/instagram-posts/ray-epps-didnt-tell-congress-he-orchestrated-the-j/
X,
At 12:53 PM Epps was present when the first perimeter fence breach occurred. In the video, one officer was pushed to the pavement. But apparently that was not yet enough for Epps to decide to go back to his hotel.
His tweet to his nephew occurred 1:19 minutes later. Sure, it could be some misplaced/inappropriate braggadocio, but why at that late stage?
When was that large sign heaved over the police line--where Epps was then-present?
And, again, look at the entire transcript of Epps' testimony. Then note that the official word is essentially 'Epps said he wasn't working for any agency'. Ok, "Epps said". This gives plausible deniability.
Craig,
That may or may not be Ray Epps. I'm not being facetious. I'm just aware of how easily video and photographs can now be manipulated. Do take notice the FULL video provides more context to my general observation that many more people touched that metal sign that apparently haven't been charged with anything related to that sign than were prosecuted for crimes that included that metal sign.
If you read the portion of the government's Statement of Offense regarding the case of Marshall Neefe they indicated that Mr. Neefe's hands were on the large metal sign for approximately 10 seconds while it was making direct contact with a line of Capitol Police officers.
Source: Scroll down to "statement of offense: see paragraph 19: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/defendants/neefe-marshall
Like I said: nuanced. Keep it simple. There were likely hundreds, if not thousands that were smart and/or discerning enough to walk away that day as things got out of hand and they had a moment of self-reflection. It's not always easy to do in a crowd like that with that much stimulation all around you to grasp the bigger picture as events unfold around all sides of a huge governmental building.
x
p.s. - I noticed from the various "Statement of Offenses", the large metal sign assault occured at about 1:40 pm. That correlates with the timeline of Ray Epps thinking he needs to back off and retreating to a calmer place where he'd feel safe and clear enough to even touch base on Twitter with his nephew and relate anything about what he, individually, experienced that day. It correlates with his testimony that things were getting out of hand and had gone too far. He could only feel that way if he was actually in it and witnessed it. I obviously can't vouch for the guy -- nor would I want to --- but the evidence of him being anything but a dumb citizen for being there at all doesn't exist...yet?
X,
That was clearly his voice. Sure it's possible someone took the effort to 'place him there', but they would have also had to take recordings of his voice and superimpose those.
Like you said, "keep it simple".
Craig @ 11:18 am
Lots of legal protests involve scuffling with police where no one gets arrested and protestors don't run for the hills or think twice about participating. I can't explain Mr. Epps mindset why the first tussling didn't send him home but I can perhaps try to speculate.
The first incident you refer to at 12:53pm involved a few dozen or maybe 100 people? Contrast that with the 1000's of riotous insurrectionists getting madder and madder and more combative at 1:40 pm as that metal sign comes into play immediately proceeding the massive violent crowd moving into that scaffolding which ultimately led to the breach of the Capitol building on the 2nd floor.
A small confrontation with police at ground level behind a few bicycle barricades hardly compares to the scene that was unfolding between 1:40 pm and 2:12pm when Ray Epps testified to walking away.
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p.s. - Funny but if you told me Ray Epps was a super devout roman catholic who attened only Latin led services I might be more inclined to believe he was actually a non-governmental right-wing provactatuer. Opus Dei can keep a secret. However, if Epps was actually officially acting as an FBI agent...there's enough MAGA people in the FBI/government that someone would have leaked implicating evidence of such by now.
X,
Look again at the transcripts (provided just below). I’m with Jeff Clark on this:
One of the most outlandish exchanges involve Epps being asked about a text HE SENT HIMSELF on J6: "I was in the front with a few others. I also orchestrated it."
Cmte staffers then basically FEED to Epps how he should answer the question.
twitter.com/JeffClarkUS/status/1608852387237859329/photo/1
And there’s a stunning new development:
What the January 6 Videos Will Show
American Greatness
Julie Kelly | January 13, 2023
The jury trial of Richard Barnett, the man famously photographed with his feet on a desk in Nancy Pelosi’s office on January 6, 2021, is underway in Washington, D.C. Nearly two years to the date of his arrest, Barnett finally had a chance to defend himself in court on multiple charges, including obstruction of an official proceeding.
But it was not the fiery, outspoken Barnett who provided the most jaw-dropping testimony in the trial so far. To the contrary, one of the government’s own witnesses confirmed under defense cross-examination that “agents provocateur” were heavily involved in instigating the events of January 6.
Captain Carneysha Mendoza, a tactical commander for U.S. Capitol Police at the time, testified Wednesday how a group of agitators destroyed security barriers and lured people to Capitol grounds that afternoon:
Defense Counsel Brad Geyer: Isn’t it true that you had a lot of people, a large quantity of people walking down two streets that dead-ended at the Capitol?
Mendoza: Yes, sir.
Geyer: And would it be fair to say that at least at some of the leading edges of that crowd, they contained bad people or provocateurs; is that fair?
Mendoza: It’s fair.
Geyer: Dangerous people?
Mendoza: Yes.
Geyer: Violent people?
Mendoza: Yes.
Geyer: Highly trained violent people?
Mendoza: Yes.
Geyer: Highly trained violent people who work and coordinate together?
Mendoza: Yes
It was a stunning admission, representing the first time a top law enforcement official stated under oath (to my knowledge) that a coordinated, experienced group of agitators engaged in much of the mischief early that day. Under further questioning, Mendoza acknowledged those same individuals “pushed through barriers, removed barriers, threw barriers over the side, removed fencing, and eased the flow of people into places where they shouldn’t be.” This happened around 1:00 p.m., the same time the joint session of Congress convened to debate the results of the 2020 presidential election.
Hiding the pivotal role of still unidentified—and uncharged—agitators on January 6 is just one reason why the government has successfully sought to conceal thousands of hours of footage captured by the Capitol police’s security system before, during, and after the protest…
11:47 -- I am. I'm not denying the videos. Just not affirming them either. The video certainly doesn't show Epps..."hurling" anything. If you were motivated to deep fake a video purporting to show Epps engaging in criminality, you'd think they'd 'airbrush' him in doing more than just touching the sign.
The video: When the man purported to be Ray Epps touches the metal sign over his head, it appears to be while it's moving perpendicular to the line of Capitol Police officers. In others words, Ray Epps wasn't touching the sign when it was being pushed, hurled, or otherwise assualting the police officers directly.
The end of the video when Ray Epps popped up front he seems to be attempting to talk down the crowd and assist the Capitol police with establishing a safe line between the crowd and the police so no one gets hurt. Again, consistent with his testimony of realizing things were going to far.
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X,
You wrote: ...Again, consistent with his testimony of realizing things were going to far.
No it isn't. If all this occurred before he sent the text, then why the verbiage of the text?
And see my 12:00 PM above.
Craig at 12:00 pm
Weird reaching claim...
Where does such testimony indicate GOVERNMENTAL provocateurs?
The Oath Keepers and Proud Boys were deployed around the Capitol Building long before the Trump speech ended. Is that who he/she's speaking about?
I think Ray Epps should be arrested and maybe the Justice Department will someday get around to that but "orchestrating" a protest and being present in a protest while others moved some bicycle barricades and fencing is different that directly assaulting Capitol Police officers, brandishing weapons, and it's different than breaking windows and smashing your way into the Capitol Building or even going through smashed open doors where an obvious entry battle had occurred clearly indicating it wasn't really open to the public.
They (actually "We" the People) can't arrest, charge, convict, jail everyone for being stupid.
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12:10
Because a tweet 2:11pm to his nephew, after he presumably walked away from the 1:40pm altercation, was his individual limited myiopic view of the events of that day whereby he thought he had some part in "orchestrating" a wonderful protest that day. He didn't have yet the context of the entire days events thereafter or even before such tweet...just his limited view which is shared by many other participants that day who remain proud of their participation and claim it was generally, peaceful from their point of view.
Ray Epps wasn't the only participant to brag. Many posted pictures and videos on their own social media feeds celebrating their participation in the events of that infamous day completely oblivious to the criminality that were immediately implicating themselves in.
His testimony is he walked away and helped an injured person seek medical attention.
There is nothing wrong with his timeline. He behaved criminally. He was involved in seeding criminal behavior (i.e.- a conspirator). He is not a hero. He is one of thousands who also were involved in criminal behavior and seeding criminal behavior (more co-conspirators) who also were not arrested, charged and/or convicted of anything.
So what?
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X @ 12:17 PM,
It does not yet make the claim of "GOVERNMENTAL provocateurs". But who are they? I'd like to know.
But, again, look at the Epps transcripts and note how he was essentially being 'led' to good answers for him. His account fails the smell test, in my book. It doesn't work chronologically with his text. I see no way to reconcile the timing and the text, absent some other reason.
Craig at 12:29
"But who are they?": maybe this will help
Leader of Oath Keepers and 10 Other Individuals Indicted in Federal Court for Seditious Conspiracy and Other Offenses Related to U.S. Capitol Breach - U.S. v. Rhodes et al.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1462481/download
Such text and his activities the day/hours before the breach were probably reason enough for him to be initially listed as a suspect of interest. Upon furhter examination they revised their position as Ray Epps just being another quasi-protestor who left and disengaged when or as the full illegatility of the situation unfolded. When you read the transcripts of many of these defendants you will see many, if not all of them, were interviewed by the FBI several times with and without attorneys and asked questions regarding their involvement on Jan 6th. I am betting hundreds or a thousand more have been questioned and, eventually, not charged. You'll see that many of the ones who were charged lied to the investigators and cover up their involvement. Perhaps Epps was honest, contrite and repentant and didn't lie to hamper investigators who thereafter concluded Epps wasn't a threat and didn't deserve prosecution? It's not special treatment. It happens all the time (especially for cooperative white men).
I know it's hard to step beyond the politics of this. Ray Epps was only questioned by the Jan 6th committee because to not question him would somehow, I'm guessing, appear to validate some conspiracy. They weren't leading the witness...just covering the obvious exculpatory evidence that he had no governmental connection and wasn't an insurrectionist beyond being an impassioned protestor motivated by the lies coming from Trump and his criminal cronies. Sure someone COULD HAVE cross-examined him harder...but such would have been for political theatre, not actual fact-finding.
I reconciled the timeline for you. There is no "other reason"...unless you have more?
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p.s. - It's really not "simple" to suggest some deep-state actor can act as a super-secret government-sponsored provocateur with no evidence of any direct ties to the government; but, with such adept, he gets tripped up and exposed by PUBLICALLY tweeting his own nephew his full involvement and responsibility almost the exact minute the most unlawful events of the day commence. It's also not "simple" to suggest that implying Ray Epps is more than he is, furhter implies there were possibly MORE Ray Epps in the crowd that day (but that is the non-evidenced implication you POLITICALLY seek to achieve- correct?)
X,
Recall Lisa Page and Peter Strzok.
You wrote: Sure someone COULD HAVE cross-examined him harder...but such would have been for political theatre, not actual fact-finding. "political theatre"? I strongly disagree.
I'd sure like to see more context in that tweet. Did the exchange continue? Why didn't Epps say something to the effect, "But I left because things started getting out of hand." Leaving "I orchestrated it" hanging is a odd, in the full context of that day.
So, I disagree that you reconciled the chronology in concert with his J6 testimony.
Craig,
Surely if there was more context to his public tweets we'd know about them. I presume that's all there is ...the one tweet to his nephew since that's all that's been discussed.
It fits the timeline too...not a lot of time to be on your phone tweeting whilst in a crowd of protestors (legal) and insurretionists (illegal) nor, while "carry (carried) someone who had a medical emergency away from the building".
It's braggish...pride. To a nephew who wasn't there.
Epps was a former (long-ago) Marine. He's an old man. There is nothing in his history to suggest even remotely he has the ability to be an agent provocatuer. There is nothing to suggest he was any more than another dumb Maga supporter who chickened-out OR actually came to his senses when the attempted Coup got to violent and real.
Again --- who and what did he ACTUALLY "orchestrate"? At that point after 1:40 pm when he disengaged many present just thought it a very poingnant and productively protest...like other "occupy" and/or BLM protests they've seen seletive edits of while sitting in their lazy-boyz watching Tucker Carlson. Epps was a former member and leader of Oath Keepers...his excitement and pomposity isn't odd at all. Nor is the lack of prosecuting an old man who didn't assualt anyone, didn't bring weapons, and didn't enter the Capitol Building that odd either. Thousands of others bragged about being there, being complicit or even tangentially involved and feeling like patriots.
Your implications fail for want of evidence. I don't need more context -- his THOUGHTS aren't convictable -- what did HE do? What criminal actions did he undertake? Lots of people haven't been charged for "parading" illegally.
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Lisa Page and Peter Strzok?
They are merely examples of how bias can be weaponized into supposed conspiracies.
Every government employee has personal opinions and I wouldn't be shocked or surprised to learn that a substantial majority of state department, fbi and cia employees personally despised Trump. I wouldn't be surprised to see such bias enter their work (entirely within the law) or be discussed privately among such persons.
Likewise, I wouldn't be shocked or surprised to learn at a vocal minority of such governmental employees were Maga brain disabled and supported Trump and his drain-the-swamp ideology (especially as they maybe saw an opportunity to advance by assuming or seeming sympathetic to such political ideology). Had the Jan 6 succeeded, many would have stepped forward to serve their new king.
Washington is a eat or be eaten debased political basketcase. Politics isn't Christian.
Both CIA and FBI are run by Opus Dei so it's not a complete stretch that chaos plays into their world-wide one-religion (with the Dominionists) goals. I doubt Trump as their King was their goal. They don't/can't control him (which isn't speaking highly of him - he's just too much the narcissist and mentally unstable to be a any use to anyone).
Don't know where I'm going with this other than saying bias, alone, isn't proof of anything nor does it exonerate those convicted of wrongdoing. The republicans are in charge of the House now...they'll investigate too and, I'm betting, nobody will be indicted/convicted of anything. That is political theatre. At least the most recent democrat political theatre resulted in many convictions.
A Guide to Trump Allies Who've Pleaded Guilty or Been Convicted of Crimes
https://www.newsweek.com/guide-trump-allies-whove-pleaded-guilty-been-convicted-crimes-1735298
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X,
Predictably, you just can’t resist injecting race and Opus Dei conspiracies into your comments.
From what little we do know, there were no extra LEOs there, despite calls for them. We also know that someone opened the doors from the inside in order to let outside protestors in. Who did that? Could a person who literally broke in have known HOW to open those magnetic doors?
What did Epps “orchestrate”? Numerous times he called to go INTO and to the Capitol. Perhaps his limited role included only inducing folks to go to/INTO the Capitol. This would explain his full text: I was in the front with a few others. I also orchestrated it. (That would make sense especially if his nephew understood he had some sort of agent provocateur role to play.) And this would explain why he didn’t breach that first barrier. And it would explain why he then went over to the other side where that large metal sign was. He knew just how far he should go.
Your comparison of the scene at the first breach and large sign makes no sense. By that I mean that it is not some sort of question of degree, such that the first breach wasn’t really so bad. Pushing that fence down and knocking an LEO to the pavement surely was criminal. That should have been his first clue to ‘about face’.
Now, I know that I—and I’m pretty sure you—would have quickly retreated even BEFORE that first barrier was breached. Obviously that barrier was there for a reason—no point even going up to it, out of respect for the LEOs. And I’m pretty sure both you and (I know) I would have even questioned the point of going to and especially INTO the Capitol from the outset, for surely it was not going to be accessible during the proceedings inside.
I’d like to know what he whispered to that one guy at the first barrier breach. Was this question posed to Epps at J6? If not, why not?
craig @ 3:38
1. The lack of LEO's and delays in deploying more was part good planning by Trump and his administration (and allies within LEA) and naivete that things could actually get so out of hand. It was Trump officials, as I recall, issuing orders for officers not to be fully armed and/or suited up in riot gear largely, I think, to control the optics of such. These were supposed religious God-fearing police supporting "patriots" --- surely they wouldn't actually be violent. I THINK the dominionist elements within the Trump administration probably hoped to capitalize on such unpreparedness to get their way on Jan 6th. Stopping Pence was just the first step of their plan with more and more "patriots" descending upon the Capitol thereafter initiating their soft political Coup D'etat. The coordination with the armed elements of the Oath Keepers would eventually back that up along with, I'm guessing, the political support of the military. Trump, after all, was President still so the buck stops at his desk. I bring up race because it's obvious had this been a black crowd, like the D.C. BLM protests the summer before...a much more serious multi-agency LEO presence would have been suited up and ready to rumble.
2. Epps explained urging people to go to the Capitol and urging those to "go in" was merely talk he thought was ultimately legal. He didn't know (or believably claimed not to know) tha that Capitol Buidling would be locked and closed to the public that day. Such belief is not farfetched. Fox News has broadcast lots of protestors by "progressives" who have entered and carreid out protests in many buildings legally and illegally or quasi-illegally expanded protests outside the bounds of where protestors were directed to take place without consequence. LEO rarely enforce laws upon mobs when keeping the peace and trying to deescalate matters becomes the priority. Directing or even orchestrating a protest that later gets out of hand or involves criminal behavior by other participants, is not always illegal and/or prosecuted.
Note: even the direct organizers of the Charlottesville white nationalist riot were acquitted by a jury.
Jury finds rally organizers liable for the violence that broke out in Charlottesville
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/23/1058024314/charlottesville-unite-the-right-trial-verdict
3. Ray Epps is a former marine and 64 years old on Jan 6th. The fact he was there at all demonstrate his lack of discernment and mental capabilities. His criminal intent beyond personally protesting legally is suspect. Lots of others also lacked criminal intent despite witnessing widespread illegal conduct UNTIL they themselves actually assaulted officers or walked through battle scenes to illegally enter the Capitol Building. Witnessing people push through and by a half dozen cops trying to hold a small little sidewalk barricade against a oncoming throng of legal angry protestors is not comparible in degree to the visual of looking out over those Capitol steps upon thousands "storming" and attacking lines of riot police and Capitol police where Epps was when he seems to have had enough. A younger man more full of testosterone is much less likely to have made that call at all.
4. If Trump's Coup D'etat was successful, I'd like to think you and I would both have been fine with counter-protesting and confronting any successionist fascist unconstitutional "authority" at the risk of death as any true patriot would, right?
5. So you are left making implications and speculating over the criminality of a whisper?
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X,
Yeah, nice try. Trump tried, but it wasn't Trump's call re LEOs.
Washington, D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser told federal law enforcement to stand down just one day before a mob breached the U.S. Capitol, smashing windows, entering the chambers, and forcing lawmakers and staff inside into lockdown.
I'm not even going to address your ridiculous, baseless statements.
It's the cumulative evidence surrounding Epps that makes the whole thing malodorous.
Capitol police watchdog says heavy, non-lethal munitions would've helped in Jan. 6 insurrection
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/15/capitol-police-barred-using-non-lethal-weapons-during-jan-6-riot/7237812002/
Capitol Police Told to Hold Back on Riot Response on Jan. 6, Report Finds
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/us/politics/capitol-police-riot-report.html
This actually makes sense too...as part of the optics war Trump's comrads were tiptoeing...or, perhaps, plausible deniability after a failed Coup...
From Christopher Miller's testimony...
Miller testified that the U.S. military was deliberately restrained that day when Trump's rally turned into an assault by hundreds of his followers that left five dead, including a Capitol Police officer.
Miller testified that he was concerned in the days before Jan. 6 that sending National Guard troops to Washington would fan fears of a military coup or that Trump advisers were advocating martial law.
Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/congresswoman-says-trump-administration-botched-capitol-riot-preparations-2021-05-12/
X @ 5:11 PM,
Back up see 5:08 PM and read the letter contained therein.
Craig at 5:08 pm
Your "cumulative evidence" is nothing more than wild speculation and implications supplied entirely by the political theater.
Any ACTUAL conspiracy would be impossible to hide behind a 66 year old former Oath Keeper leader wearing a trump hat and tweeting ignorantly among a riotous crowd of Neandertals stupid enough to be motivated to protest complete and obvious fabrications.
This whole line of debate is devoid of any evidence Epps is other than what he says he is...another silly Maga supporter.
Watch the videos of Jan 6th again -- there were "oddities" all over the place and everywhere.
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X,
Well, well. Running out of actual rebuttals.
Riddle me this: Who opened the magnetized doors of the Capitol building? Why hasn't this been a focal point in the J6 investigation?
The Federalist (an Opus Dei rag) isn't a legitimate news source. They are bastardizing that letter while failing to explaining protecting the Capitol Building wasn't the Mayor's responsibility and the adequacy of Federal deployments were not within her knowledge or realm of responsibility. What a complete lie actually.
You may criticize the Washington Post but they actually reported on the actual testimony and interviewed the parties involved and provide a pretty run down of the responsibilities and failures that day as well as the problems, difficulties and ongoing issues coordinating anything between DC police, the Mayor's office and Federal officers that followed the BLM protests and police/federal response the previous summer.
Yes...the Washington Post is biased. I know.
D.C. mayor: Feds failed on Jan. 6 by thinking far-right was ‘friendly': The transcripts of Mayor Muriel E. Bowser and D.C. Police Chief Robert J. Contee III’s interviews were the part of the latest release of materials from the House Jan. 6 select committee
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2qaFOcoFkqAJ:https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/12/29/bowser-contee-jan6-transcripts/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Excerpt: Trump has blamed Bowser for the chaos on Jan. 6, saying she refused help from the National Guard. But Bowser and Contee said it made sense for the city to ask in advance of Jan. 6 only for unarmed Guard support to help with traffic and free up police for potential mayhem. Federal officers also have jurisdiction over the Capitol grounds, not D.C. police.“It wasn’t for the Capitol. That is a separate request. It wasn’t for the White House. That is a separate request,” Contee said. “I don’t need military guys with long guns, you know, ushering people coming out of the Metro.”
Even that limited request from the District was met with what Contee described as “unusual” pushback from Army Secretary Ryan D. McCarthy. Unlike governors, the D.C. mayor cannot deploy National Guard troops on her own. McCarthy said the D.C. National Guard could not deploy east of Ninth Street NW — nine blocks from the Capitol — or be moved at all without explicit Army permission.
Contee called that restriction “odd” but said he assumed federal authorities would request National Guard support as needed and “pivot” in response to an emergency.
“My lesson learned, everybody does not pivot necessarily as quickly as the Metropolitan Police Department does,” he said.
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X,
Did you read Bowser's letter to the concerned parties? It doesn't matter what source it is found in, what matters is the substance of the letter. Genetic fallacy, again.
Craig,
I did read it. You are inferring (from the Federalist implication) that Bowser was somehow responsible for Federal LEO on Federal property.
She wasn't.
Not a single resident or DC citizen or visator was hurt or injured on DC property anywhere in the city...to my knowledge.
DC police responded to calls for help from the Capitol police within 20 minutes. Much faster than the 3 hours it took national guardsman to show up.
x
x routinely disregards actual facts on the ground (readily seen in the videos and transcripts of real timelines and persons) for hypothetical fluff.
He's no truth seeker, or truth teller, for that matter.
Does he like play devil's advocate or actually work for the devil?
In other words, Craig...it is not the substance of the letter in question but the inferences made by the Federalist that are incorrect and/or suspect.
Bowser and D.C. Metro Police were not in charge or responsible for the failures of the Capitol Police and the Trump administration (including the FBI) to coordinate and communicate known risks and threats to Federally policed buildings and assets.
Failures exasperated by Trump's optics wars the summer of 2020 and beyond as explained further in the Washington Post article above.
Coordination was lacking and it's actually kind of humorous to see what appears to be Bowser's cover my butt letter used against her this way as though she's at fault for the "police" (versus federal Capitol police) failures at the Capitol Building.
x
6:15 pm --- Evidence??? What "facts of the ground"?
Thanks for your contribution to a respectful debate between adults.
Craig and I don't agree. Neither of us were there or in Ray Epps mind so there's going to be a point we can never agree upon what is absolute fact.
So what.
I'm still waiting for any real evidence beyond inferences, whispers and lies to fill in these supposed gaps only alt-right fake infotainment seem to be able to fill with wild speculation.
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"actual facts on the ground (readily seen in the videos and transcripts of real timelines and persons)"
Hey you in the tin foil hat. Craig is doing a great job of showing you facts.
And you can't take it.
Man up.
8:24 pm
lol...sure, name one fact I couldn't take.
x
To 11:30 pm -- what virtue do you claim for "Gateway Pundit" and Mr. Hoft?
Constance
Oh, condolences, dear lady Constance, on the death of your husband. I find your opinions refreshing after spending so much time in the traditional Catholic realm where one misstep can get you brunt at the stake. I never watch television or follow News organizations so getting their reportage filtered though your eyes is helpful to my understanding ( I've had my head in the sand since 2008) - : Thank you. By the way: I was happily surprised while clearing out a book locker this week to come across Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow'. God Bless and Keep You
”red herrings and strawmen are everywhere"
Oh dear, Craig. Well, that's another not so fine mess you've gotten yourself into.
"Of course everything Orange is bad..."
It sure is.
"I don't mind Craig's way of disagreeing ..."
What, Craig's expectations of Constance to go on wild goose chases, slipping over the red herring he implies others, rather than he by proxy is guilty of dangling.
J,
Your sycophantic mush and blatant cowardice over every arrogant misnomer Craig produces is pathetic, nauseous and vacuous.
You fawn over every strawman he erects, bowing down to each like an imfatuated Jezzabel and you do so without a hint of shame: how embarrassing!
*What, Craig's expectations of Constance to go on wild goose chases, slipping over the red herring he implies others, rather than he by proxy, are guilty of dangling.
8:24 PM,
You "man up", you vile tapeworm!
Dear Constance,
This is Kelvin, from Brazil.
That's my first time entering in your blog. I loved reading your book (The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow) years ago; I loved listening to some videos where you were speaking. But I have to admit you're completely out of touch with reality here... I'm brazilian myself, and I know too much about the globalist/Communist Lula, who started his career in... Johns Hopkins University (!) and always has been working for the internationalist establishment through the Communist side of its dialectical arms. Say anything about Bolsonaro, but he was against mandatory vaccines, preached sovereignty of our nation, kicked DiCaprio's ass on Amazon, etc., etc., etc. By the way, he was against the FAKE PSYOP you're referring to. If this article illustrates the present state of your discerniment, I can only lament it.
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