TECHNOCRACY RISING - THE TECHNOCRATIC, NON-DEMOCRATIC ALL CONTROLLING SIDE OF THE NEW AGE - GLOBALIST "NEW WORLD ORDER"?
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| Patrick M. Wood |
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| Front cover and spine of Patrick M. Wood's important new book, TECHNOCRACY RISING. |
In the early 90s the computer and science magazines told us that human interfaces would be coming and that they would be irresistible when they arrived.
Patrick M. Wood, himself a highly skilled and experienced financial planner and analyst has analyzed the machinations of a critical globalist organization, The Trilateral Commission, for many years. He and Anthony Sutton co-authored Trilaterals Over Washington in the 1990s. He has also carefully studied the long time emerging "Technocracy Movement" and its declarations. It has obvious parallels, if not complete collaboration with the various "Smart" and "Green" movements which plan to move us from a money based economy to an energy based economy. I have written several articles on this in the past that are archived both here and on NewswithViews.com.
Patrick Wood graciously sent me a review copy of his important new book. I note that Carl Teichrib, a fellow researcher I deeply respect, aided in Mr. Wood's research. I respect both men and I am pleased that tomorrow morning, 10 a.m. Eastern time, 7 a.m. Pacific time, Mr. Wood will be my internet radio guest on MY PERSPECTIVE at TMERadio.com. You may listen live, join us in the chatroom and/or call in for the two hour program by calling 208-935-0642.
I did not see mention in this book of Social Credit which in my opinion was another and perhaps even earlier phase of this development, but I plan to ask Mr. Wood for his opinion on that as well.
It should be a fascinating two hours. Join us in the morning, tune in and Stay Tuned!
CONSTANCE
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IsIs could be just another a way to bully Americans into more wars that include killing Muslims so a certain banking cartel can conquer Iran and possibly even cause a civil war that could A. depopulate (murder) or B. Uh, I dunno, get that communist revolution mashall law thing going.
Even Israelis don't fall for the hate the Muslim trick. Find me one average nonMB muslims who even knows what Shariah is. By the way Syria didn't live under Sharia...why are we their? Saving whom? Helping whom?
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/conspiracy/history/bnaibrith.shtml
Who was in on the last civil war? Very interesting, covers all the bases but it is the internet so do your own research.
anon 10:12 yes both sides were played, but the Brits
wanted the colonies back and helped foment the
southern rebellion to play divide and conquer.
Russia told Britain if they got involved with their
navy Russia would treat it as an act of war, and
positioned their best ships in New York and San
Francisco. Russia had the biggest land army and
could do a lot of damage to British interests.
anon 10:19 we mostly hear them called ISIS Islamic
State of Iraq and Shams (Syria) but they also call
themselves ISIL, Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
do you know what the Levant is? Its all the Middle
Eastern countries with a Mediteranean seacoast.
That includes Israel. It is in their crosshairs,
and Palestinians cheer ISIL but they have to
secure their other positions first.
AIR FORCE ADMITS HAARP SUCCESSFULLY CONTROLLED WEATHER
www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=33420
Dear Anon@7.21am,
The Air force did not "admit... that HAARP successfully controlled weather." The clip shows David Walker, deputy assistant secretary of the Air Force for science, technology and engineering, stating in response to a question that “We’re moving on to other ways of managing the ionosphere, which the HAARP was really designed to do. To inject energy into the ionosphere to be able to actually control it.”
The ionosphere is far above the weather, apart from the very top of the largest thunderstorms which protrude into its lowest part. The key point is the "iono" in ionosphere; unlike in the lower atmosphere, a significant proportion of the atoms in the ionosphere have had their outermost electrons stripped from them by solar radiation. They become positively charged ions, so that the ionosphere comprises a gas containing many electrons and positively charged ions. This behaves very differently from neutral gases and is known to physicists as a plasma. It is responsible for reflecting radio waves back down to earth and is why you can hear radio transmitters that are far away and below the horizon.
Relatively weak electromagnetic radiation is influenced by the ionosphere without influencing it. But more powerful radiation is capable of stirring up the ionosphere in interesting ways. HAARP was designed as a research tool to be powerful enough to do that, and learn more about the ionosphere from what happens.
So HAARP is about the electromagnetic properties of the ionosphere, not about the motional (ie weather) properties of the atmospheric layers below it. Furthermore HAARP projects into the ionosphere a negligible fraction of the energy involved in weather systems in Alaska, let alone the continental USA. It cannot influence the weather.
Physicist
Anon 7:37....
I do not hate anyone, and like you, love the Muslim, Communist, and any other enemy that might come along, with the love of Christ, realizing that is it is the devil who is the real enemy, going about devouring whomever he can.
Your non-concern toward radical Islam is perhaps understandable, because no, there is not a mosque in every town right next to WalMart, but I think the direction of history currently will eventually show that non-concern to have been in error. It has made huge strides in Europe, and is beginning to do so here, and will continue to do so, because we haven't the spine to become non-PC and start pushing back. There are ways to push back and still be loving. It used to be called "Just War Theory" - how it is very Christian to fight against an enemy and at the same time love the enemy you fight, and love the people you are protecting by fighting that enemy. C. S. Lewis addressed that in one of the chapters of his book "Mere Christianity".
I could ask you the same thing about Masonic lodges as you asked me about the number of Muslims who even read the Quran - how many of those attending are completely serious about what the Masons believe? Most go because it's a club to belong to. If they really knew what went on at higher levels, they would leave, don't you think?
BTW, I don't watch FOX news anymore. They are no longer a "news" organization, and are there for pure entertainment, with conservative clothing to make them more appealing to conservatives. It's my opinion that they are fueling the Left-Right split in this nation, which will lead to a shooting war - Americans shooting Americans once again. RT (Russia Today) is an extreme example of this. FOX is just a "tamed down" version of same.
It's sad... is there really any news outlet anymore that just reports the news, as it happened, without putting some kind of spin on it? Years ago, it used to be the BBC World News. Everyone around the world would tune in to find out what's happening in their part of the world, because you had BBC World News for Africa, BBC World News for Asia, etc, etc, all being heard on shortwave. But they have all but left shortwave now. All I hear now on shortwave is China Radio International, on every band, and it's not near what the BBC was.
Sorry for rambling on so! Shortwave listening is one of my hobbies. So much has changed on shortwave radio over the past couple decades. So many interesting and informative stations have left the air.
I might add, related to Physicist's comment and also related to shortwave radio listening....
Among other things, HAARP would affect radio propagation in the shortwave bands. Perhaps it was being used as another tool for jamming or killing signals, much as the Soviets and the West did during the Cold War, with transmitters pumping out HUGE signals (megawatts of generated RF energy) to cover up foreign broadcasts (like VOA beaming into Russia, for example), so the indigenous population couldn't hear any news from the outside. "Listen to Radio Moscow, or nothing, da?"
Or, it possibly could have even been used to enhance signal propagation, instead of jamming or killing it. The ionosphere is an interesting beast to study, that's for certain.
From what I have read of HAARP-ists, the concern is not so
much what it does to the ionosphere, as that its own signal
could then be bounced off the heated ionosphere to create
a problem farther down. I also read a good case for the
ionosphere being capable of affecting the electrical condition
of gasses below it, and so forth. I also think HAARP is
over estimated. everytime someone doesn't like the weather
or there's a disaster it has to be done by mankind, like this
sort of stuff can't happen on its own.
Where was HAARP back when various historical events like the
1816 year without a summer hit? that was volcanic winter
caused by Tambora. If that was now, Tambora would be blamed
on HAARP. Its been a long time since I read the patents
connected with HAARP which are some of them Tesla stuff and
if I recall right incl. weather modification capability,
but that doesn't mean that that part of the patent's device
in use as part not all of HAARP would do that.
And how much modification can you do before a regular weather
front moves in and messes up your modified segment?
Christine,
"From what I have read of HAARP-ists, the concern is not so
much what it does to the ionosphere, as that its own signal
could then be bounced off the heated ionosphere to create
a problem farther down."
Electromagnetic waves are not "felt" by neutral atoms, only charged entities such as ions and electrons, so the atmosphere beneath the ionosphere, where it is not ionised, will be transparent to HAARP's radiation and its reflection and unaffected by it.
"I also read a good case for the ionosphere being capable of affecting the electrical condition of gasses below it, and so forth."
Not so! But your statement is fairly general so do feel free to be more specific and I'll gladly say more.
"Where was HAARP back when various historical events like the 1816 year without a summer hit? that was volcanic winter caused by Tambora. If that was now, Tambora would be blamed
on HAARP."
Well said!
Physicist
"but I think the direction of history currently will eventually show that non-concern to have been in error."
I was concerned enough about it to be a leader in the movement to stop it. ...Conclusion of my experienve: we can not stop planned immigration, which is the real problem. I as an American can do nothing from here to help Europen Jews and their own leaders are selling them out. We have no control over European politics. The elite want multicultrualism and they will pay the politicians to make the legislation in Europe and here. The arabs started coming into the US after 911. 911 was blamed on them to create chaos and civil war here. The elites can now do all sorts of things and blame the Muslims. We have MB tv called Al Jazzera which is what radicalized European Muslims, there is a book on this. Even Egypt shut it down, we have not. Again, the only 'conservative' synagogue in my town built an Islamic madrassa on their campus. This is a game, a trick, and sorry but we have NO more control over our voting machines which means we have NO more control over our politicians and legislation like, immigration and radical schools and radical TV. Never again is really, we have no control over never again. Calling all Muslims evil is as bad as Rense saying the Jews are not human. Even I know this is the same racism, even if I am not in denile about how much Jewish influence is around and believe the protocols are real and not propaganda, occultists Jews are human beings and so are Muslims and not all want shariah like not all Jews want talmund law, but their numbers do seem much smaller than we would like, gee could be we failed to witness enough.....there is no more country, no USA, let it go. The fear of the thing is worse than the thing, it is gone but was it ever that important to you? Nope, you have God and never needed a country after all. You were already owned, bought, paid for and counted on. Think 'house church'.
can't find the original article it was years ago probably 1990s to mid 2000s.
here's some other stuff.
https://lofi.physforum.com/How-Does-The-Artificial-Ionosphere-Affect-Climate_16279.html post included links which were removed due to
policy of fas.org. it draws on abstracts from legitimate (scientific
and military) sources which the poster was told to remove so he left
the abstract. mostly this is about putting chemicals in the air.
what crossed my mind was that you can change the focus, and HAARP
hit not the ionosphere but anywhere lower the aimer wants.
http://solar-center.stanford.edu/SID/educators/earthquakes.html
"There is some intriguing research about whether large earthquakes are associated with ionospheric changes caused by electromagnetic signals released by the crushing of rock crystalline structures. If so, then this might be a mechanism for major earthquake prediction."
http://climateviewer.com/2014/10/18/ionospheric-heaters-how-haarp-really-works/
raises questions about how this affecting the earth's magnetic field might affect
biological systems. (and maglines being deviated be a mechanism for charged
particles getting where they normally wouldn't, such as happens anyway at the poles.)
One of the primary researchers in this area is Friedemann Freund, of NASA Ames. He has written several articles introducing the concept of ionospheric and atmospheric changes as earthquake precursors: "
not exactly the same thing but there is some interaction where you don't
expect it by the usual positive negative neutral thinking. (how about
plasma streams crossing these boundaries?)
http://climateviewer.com/2014/10/18/ionospheric-heaters-how-haarp-really-works/
the one possible catastrophe that Begich in his Angels Don't Play This
HAARP speculated could happen, that really bugged me, was that some
monstrous effect from an overheated ionospheric section could be like
a giant standing lightning bolt to the ground, that then chews up
everything in its path as it travels from Alaska to the lower 48
(never mind Canada its not that populated anyway).
Considering the number of ionosphere heaters all over the world now,
according to the map on I think that last link, if this was going
to happen it would have by now.
Apologize to all. I was way "under the weather" the last 3 days. Had dinner with a former New Ager Saturday night and then I fell apart. Much better today, thank you! I'm working on a new post.
Constance
Be careful Constance. Ebola, anthrax, avion flu, regular flu, and now TB are being tossed at us, not to mention the flesh eating virus found in hospital wipes. I have outlawed my family from using those hand sanitizers which don't work anyway. Who knows what they will put in them someday?
http://www.wkow.com/story/29277364/2015/06/09/officials-trace-illinois-contacts-of-woman-with-rare-tb
I am waiting for kitchen sink to be thrown at us. Remember what happened to Breitbart when he ate at Bill Ayers house.
I guess I'll have to trust my safety in eating to God. He's kept me through the last 34 years of this long battle. Nothing can happen to me until and unless God is ready. If God is ready, there's probably little or nothing I can do to stop it. It's God and not them I have to account to in the end.
With that being said, thanks for the friendly health warning!
Constance
Christine at 2.24pm,
Unless it is set up very carefully, electromagnetic energy tends to disperse spontaneously. Begich's scenario is implausible both in its maintenance of an energy concentration and in the amount of energy needed.
Physicist
Watching Bilderberger stuff....I heard another call for come on out and stand up against it, bla blah blah, once again all these alternative media groups are now under control, please people stay home and out of the facial recgnition software and off the no fly lists, I wish I had understood that, think of your grandkids. Just like the post about shortwave radio, I cannot name one alternative media that is real or not on the bad guys payroll, obviously Constance is watched. What a huge psyc operation, tricky enough to deceive the elect.
anon 7:56
did you go to such an event and end up on a no fly list?
About 135 out of 426 comments have been posted by Mary Chritine Erikson, that's almost a third! When is this madness going to be stopped?
Her excessive posting is one thing, and certainly unnecessary, but it is when she screeches as she preaches at us, and goes over the top, that I draw the line.
She can very effectively shut the whole thing down all by herself.
The line has been crossed so often, that except for some that persevere to keep the blog on track, it would have already slipped into a coma.
Some already think that and have quit coming here to comment and share information.
I get that.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isiss-dirty-bomb-jihadists-have-seized-enough-radioactive-material-to-build-their-first-wmd-10309220.html
http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/05/06/isis-allegedly-claims-it-has-71-trained-soldiers-15-american-states
I know I am on the anti zoo list. The facial recognition software works and has for several years. They lie about the technology, they are years ahead of what they say they can do. I have not tried to fly yet but considering it was no doubt DHS who put me on the ani zoo list, I am sure flying is a big no no. I went to many different events. I will do nothing now, no events at all. I won't even talk to people who attend events.
Anyone ready to guess on the date and location of the dirty event this summer? Ramadan is June 17. Will is be Iraq and Syria or Jade Helm, Texas maybe? I am concerned about family in Texas.
To Constance @ 2:43 PM
Re: "Nothing can happen to me until and unless God is ready. If God is ready, there's probably little or nothing I can do to stop it. It's God and not them I have to account to in the end."
AMEN!!!!!!!
"About 135 out of 426 comments have been posted by Mary Christine Erikson, that's almost a third! When is this madness going to be stopped?"
The question ought to be rather why an owner of a blog cannot simply find the time to permanently block or delete a great majority of those bothersome messages.
Just saw this at Breitbart London. For those of you who are not familiar with Nigel Farage, he is the head of the UK Independence Party (UKIP).
LEAKED E-MAIL: TTIP Vote Suspended by Euro Authorities, Farage says ‘EU Running Scared’
Last night Breitbart London reported that the European Parliament’s plans to vote and debate on the “shady” Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership deal with the United States had been thrown into disarray on the back of major public backlash.
The planned parliamentary activity today was called into question late last night, as a leaked e-mail from the Parliament’s president at 10pm reveals. Sent directly from Martin Schulz, it reads:
“Group leaders representing a majority in the Conference of Presidents have informed me that they want the report by Mr Lange on TTIP to be postponed.
“At this stage, such a change can be made only on a proposal by the President to amend the agenda in accordance with Rule 152. In order to enable the House to vote on the change suggested, I have agreed to make such a proposal.
“Therefore, at the opening of the sitting at 8 a.m., the proposal to postpone the report by Mr Lange will be put to the House.”
Breitbart London understands that both the Conservative group backed Schulz’s move to delay the debate, whereas all but 3 UKIP MEPs opposed it, with the others not voting. Half of Labour’s MEP’s opposed the move, with the other 10 not voting.
A Conservative spokesman in Strasbourg told Breibart London: “On the debate – call us old fashioned but we think it’s best to know what a report says before we debate it. This report is now back with committee and we don’t know what will come back to plenary. So we voted to have the debate just before the vote, when that comes, when the issues will still be fresh in MEPs’ minds as they decide.”
The voting record showing Tory MEPs voting against having a debate today can be found here, and Breitbart London understands from further leaked e-mails that the report is due back in the plenary in July.
Speaking earlier, Nigel Farage, MEP and leader of UKIP, said: “In my 17 years as an MEP I’ve never received so much communication from the public on a proposed piece of legislation. The TTIP has concerned millions of people across the European Union. They have bombarded their MEPs with phone calls, letters and emails and in response to this the EU is now running scared.”
“They’ve got the wind up, particularly the left, who have been supporting TTIP from the start and finally have been exposed as backing large scale global corporatism.”
“The parliament suspended today not just the vote, but equally the debate on this issue which I think was cowardly in the extreme. It is interesting to note that for the first time ever actions in the European Parliament are now being heavily debated in Washington, too. Perhaps we need a redefinition of what a free trade deal is.”
William Dartmouth, UKIP MEP for the South West and Gibraltar and spokesman on trade, said: “Today the establishment, particularly the British Conservatives, clubbed together to stop the debate happening. The Transatlantic Trade Investment Partnership (TTIP) is a matter of huge public interest and even greater concern. It is utterly wrong for the parties in the European Parliament, led by the Conservatives, to suppress debate. We need to have debate, we need to understand what is going on.”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/06/10/leaked-e-mail-ttip-vote-suspended-by-euro-authorities-farage-says-eu-running-scared/
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Interesting that this should have happened at the same time as the G-7 and Bilderberg Conferences. At Drudge, there is a report by the Guardian which states that the "big guns" are to be found at the Bilderberg Conference.
Forget the G7 summit – Bilderberg is where the big guns go
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/08/bilderberg-summit-forget-the-g7
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See also
EXCLUSIVE: EU Chiefs Attempt to Stop TTIP Debate, ‘Crack in Corporatist Stitch-Up’ Proclaims Farage
...We can exclusively report that in addition to the vote being cancelled, as noted several hours ago, the European Union’s chief bureaucrats are in meltdown following major public backlash against what has been described as a “major corporatist stitch-up”.
Up until this month it appeared that the TTIP deal, lauded by U.S. President Barack Obama, was on course to pave the way for huge, corporate deals under the guise of “free trade” across the United States and the European Union.
Both the Conservative Party and Labour Party had backed the initiative, which could even lead, in extremis, to vast chunks of Britain’s National Health Service being outsourced to American health providers.......read more...
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/06/09/exclusive-eu-chiefs-attempt-to-stop-ttip-debate-crack-in-corporatist-stitch-up-proclaims-farage/
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Don’t Drink the Kool Aid – ObamaTrade Is Poison
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/10/dont-drink-the-kool-aid-obamatrade-is-poison/
Revealed: The Secret Immigration Chapter in Obama’s Trade Agreement
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/10/revealed-the-secret-immigration-chapter-in-obamas-trade-agreement/
VIDEO: European Parliament Descends into Farce Over ‘Shady’, Obama-Backed Trade Deal
June 10, 2015
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/06/10/video-european-parliament-descends-into-farce-over-ttip/
Now from the New York Times......
International Business
In Germany, Grass-Roots Opposition to a European-U.S. Trade Deal
By JAMES KANTERJUNE 9, 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/10/business/international/transatlantic-trade-deal-pact-europe-eu-us-germany.html?_r=0
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From Voice of America......
Divided EU Lawmakers Delay Vote on US Trade Deal
http://www.voanews.com/content/divided-european-union-delays-vote-transatlantic-trade-deal/2814782.html
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From Yahoo
EU parliament delays vote on US trade deal
http://news.yahoo.com/eu-parliament-delays-vote-us-trade-deal-182032546.html
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Here is a scary thought.....Norman Dodd tried to warn us about the following.....political empowerment for corporations!!! Which is why some of the more infamous RINO hypocrites are on board for Amnesty!!! They are in bed with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce "which has been advocating for a new trade deal between the U.S.and EU for more than a year, and President Barack Obama endorsed the project in his 2013 State of the Union address."
Obama's EU Trade Deal Would Include New Political Powers For Corporations
Posted: 04/03/2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/eu-trade-deal_n_2994410.html
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Case in point.....
In Germany, Jeb Bush offers support for Obama’s trade deal, authority
http://www.alipac.us/f9/germany-jeb-bush-offers-support-obama%92s-trade-deal-authority-320225/
Republican Billionaires Love Obama's Trade Deal
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/05/billionaires-trade-deal_n_7216344.html
susanna said,
"Here is a scary thought.....Norman Dodd tried to warn us about the following.....political empowerment for corporations!!! Which is why some of the more infamous RINO hypocrites are on board for Amnesty!!! They are in bed with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce "which has been advocating for a new trade deal between the U.S.and EU for more than a year, and President Barack Obama endorsed the project in his 2013 State of the Union address." "
finally beginning to get the picture, eh?
its not socialism/communism/nazism vs. American individualism. all the
political spectrum is bought or even created by the corporations and
the elites behind them. The problem is wannabe monopoly capitalists,
with the technocrat angle and eugenics a part of it.
Investigators of Globalist Conspiracy, Meet your Mentor, Mr. Norman Dodd
August 4, 2010
Paradox and Questions
...It would make sense that some of the American tycoons of the turn of the last century were easy marks, led into temptation to seek world empire by the perverse allures of acquisition and control. It makes for quite an odd “sense” that they would choose what seems such an extremely perverse alliance, with Communists, to do it. And it is astounding, but then confirming to see so many of today’s tycoons following this same path.
The long range planning involved is something else to ponder. It takes ideological, even sacrificial devotion, to strive for goals that will not occur in one’s one lifetime. Just how planned out has this been, by these meticulous manipulators and controllers? Just what core beliefs and motivations did they share? How closely did they conspire? What would cause these hoarders of wealth and power to share so much?
Dodd emphasizes that beyond the tycoons, it has been the trustees of their foundations who have sometimes twisted, or taken their original intents to extremes. These extremes have not diverged, but converged, to support global empire through collectivism. To which foundations did he refer, when he said this? The truth is out there, about so many.
Easy money attracts, but just how was it, religiously zealous, global Marxists (or those who would exploit them) have so successfully become the ones to seize upon these capitalists’ mega-foundations? It would seem a virtual guild of skills would be required to teach this, yet it began to occur well before the likes of the KGB. Before the Russian Revolution, this was America!
I for one have heard that Henry Ford also harbored some odd, collectivist politics; that calls for further research — also, Andrew Carnegie’s personal history, worldview, and belief. The same with J.P. Morgan. And it seems clear the Rockefellers have been ideologically corrupt, as a family. Did that start with the old man, John D. himself? Before that?
Perhaps Russian subversion was involved by the time, as Norman Dodd describes, this conspiracy reached the 1930’s, but that would hardly seem necessary. Distasteful as it is, the more one learns about the American seedbed of “progressivism” and what that actually entails, the more one finds, the answers rest in our nation’s own history. Before that, a significant strand of this malignancy reaches back in space and time to the Germany of the Eighteenth and Nineteenth Centuries — and long before that, apparently the Tower of Babel, then to Eden and the snake.
http://gulagbound.com/1624/meet-your-mentor-mr-norman-dodd/
Hey, Richard @ 4:14 PM
Re: "The question ought to be rather why an owner of a blog cannot simply find the time to permanently block or delete a great majority of those bothersome messages."
You must be new. We never let LOGIC enter the picture here. LOL
"...It would make sense that some of the American tycoons of the turn of the last century were easy marks, led into temptation to seek world empire by the perverse allures of acquisition and control. It makes for quite an odd “sense” that they would choose what seems such an extremely perverse alliance, with Communists, to do it. And it is astounding, but then confirming to see so many of today’s tycoons following this same path."
you still don't get it.
they didn't just ally with it.
they founded and financed it.
"they didn't just ally with it.
they founded and financed it."
Or maybe they were duped into believing that what were allies, were in fact enemies who would later hang them with some very nice, newly-acquired rope.
Anthony Sutton went into great detail about how the USSR was created by the cabal and their corporations:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vftNpSXUOU8
Norman Dodd's career was ruined because he was called an antisemite code for anti-communist and code for today's truth tellers.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2014/09/10/anti-israel-jewish-left-accuses-mark-levin-of-undermining-israel-by-supporting-israel/
I don't know about Breitbat London but the Breitbart US is dead. Both Levin and Pelosi want a con con, talk about one party rule.
This article is just absurd, it is accusing people of being racists and destroyers if they don't open their wallets freely to Israel. I was taught to pay my own bills, I doubt Israelis would pay for my security. Case in point, son of a Holocaust surviver, software developer, ADL board member gave 5 million to a US University, sustainable development department to create sustainable fuel alternatives. Uh, could he have better spent that on IDF expenses? I am not a Zionist. I am not political. However, I never ever called for any destruction of Israel or Jewish people. In fact I activly worked to warn about Islamic immigration and support Jews never having to be forced out of their European and American homes. This is a game, and Breitbart is a lost alternative media, which is under Fox control now it seems. UNESCO said they would control ALL mass media in 40's. I have this document and I am sure they were serious. I also have a book from the 50's that claims UNESCO is simply following the protocols of ...shamballa?
This is a clear example for me of the level of thought control fascism we live under.
Oh yeah and TPP will pass. It may be in bits and parts, by deception or finally with several crafty executive orders bug it will pass and like NAFTA, Obamcare, OBE Common Core State Standards, UN Broadband and FirstNet, it will be impossible to reverse.
Marko 7:;40 P.M.
Re:Or maybe they were duped into believing that what were allies, were in fact enemies who would later hang them with some very nice, newly-acquired rope.
This is very possible. As Norman Dodd has implied, monopoly capitalists were looking for a way around the anti-trust laws......and looked at communism as "a means of developing a...... monopoly."
It is indeed possible the dupes among them will one day wake up to discover that they have unwittingly wound up stepping on their own airhose!
Marko and susanna, look beyond the mere USA.
look beyond the 20th century. the answers lie in 1800s in
Europe, and it has little if anything to do with Jews
except a very few Jews by blood only and who hated their
religion so don't count.
P.S. Marko 7:40 P.M.
Here is a relevant comment from Lunatic Outpost.
Standard Oil was forced to split up into 35, or so smaller companies. J.D. Rockafeller lost, but his greatest rival J.P. Morgan who was far wealthier and more powerful was left alone for doing the same things. Forcing Westinghhouse to sell to him creating his monopoly on Electricity. He was also allowed to keep his monopoly on steele that he bought from Carnegie.
Henry Ford won his case in the fallout and was allowed to make his cars without having to pay royalties to the monopoly that owned the patent on the automobile.
The courts ruled the patent did not extend to Ford's design.
The reason J.P. Morgan was left alone is because his imperialism of wealth extended over the banking idustry and finance which the Federal Government was dependent upon. He once loaned the Federal Government 100 million dollars saving the country from collapse.
It is imperative however that you understand that the Monopoly is neccessary for centralizing power and certain monopolies are favored if they benefit the government while others are destroyed if they are deemed a threat to the centralization of the governments power.
Monopolies are required under a totalitarian form of governance be it Communism, or whatever. Today, certain favored monopolies are being coddled to implement Technocracy. Consider Reagan's deregulation of the media that allowed over 50 major media conglomerates to consolidate into the mere 6 we have today. Ultimately that has destroyed the 4th estate.
In 1932 the J.P. Morgan Executive Board explained to their Star Junior Executive Norman Dodd...
"We will never see sound banking in the United States again...
Since the end of World War 1 we have been responsible for the
institutionalization of conflicting interests that can never be resolved."
---JP Morgan's Executive Board Members;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYCBfmIcHM
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With that as the backdrop, this is what Norman Dodd says of a conversation he had with the President of the tax-exempt Ford Foundation in 1954 as part of his Congressionally mandated investigation of tax-exempt foundations:
“Mr. Dodd, we’ve asked you to come up here today because we thought that possibly, off the record, you would tell us why the Congress is interested in the activities of the foundations such as ourselves.” Before I could think of how I would reply to that statement, Mr. Gaither then went on and said: “Mr. Dodd, all of us who have a hand in the making of policies here have had experience operating under directives, the substance of which is that we shall use our grant-making power so to alter life in the United States that it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.”
ED GRIFFIN: Why do the foundations generously support Communist causes in the United States?
NORMAN DODD: Well, because to them, Communism represents a means of developing what we call a monopoly, that is, an organization of, say, a large-scale industry into an administerable unit.
ED GRIFFIN: Do they think that they will be the ones to benefit?
NORMAN DODD: They will be the beneficiaries of it, yes.
https://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=243243
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http://realworldorder.net/ this is a good quick start point,
many authors will be open to criticism on one ground or another,
all have major pieces of the puzzle. I think there is some
anti-semitic and other nonsense occasionally in its stuff, but
try to get past that and keep on track.
The roots of the late 20th and early 21st century lie in WW II
and the roots of the early 20th century lie in the 19th and
there are things tracking back earlier.
And nothing is as simple as things look. especially people who
wave flags and yell about Christian civilization, or national
destiny or anything else.
An interesting angle of the sort elevated to being the only
angle worth looking at (it isn't) is the fact that England was
running a lot of the revolutionary movements or a section of
their govt., Palmerston & his circle, were which is why you
never saw a revolutionary movement arise on british soil targeting
Britain in the 1800s. Of course once you get a lot of people who
really believe in some line of garbage they are sold, and are
willing to fight and kill and die for it, that's when things
get out of control.
Quigley is worth reading as is Tarpley and Sutton.
Christine, 9:24 P.M.
You probably should be addressing your comment to Anonymous at 8:00 P.M. I am not referring to Jews or any other religion here. I don't see where Marko is either. We are referring to secularist ideologies and economic systems.
Christine 9;35 P.M.
Re: Quigley is worth reading as is Tarpley and Sutton.
I don't know about Tarpley who was a LaRouche-nik, but I would agree about Carroll Quigley who was an American historian and theorist of the evolution of civilizations - noted for his teaching work as a professor at Georgetown University, for his academic publications, and for his research on secret societies - and Anthony C.Sutton who was a British and American economist, historian, and writer.
Susanna,
I merely bring up those points as a rejection of any such that might crop up in
such places I point to, and because what you are talking about has its origins,
world conspiracy etc., in the 1800s.
look beyond the 20th century. the rich of course were looking at communism in
the sense Dodd notes, but they were also continuing a pattern of generations,
part of their sense of themselves as a segment of a caste that rules others by
a kind of secular version of divine right social Darwinism helped them a bit,
and some short sighted opportunists who made sure Lenin got to Russia with that
sealed train full of gold and orders to not stop him, and those who financed
Hitler.
James Webb's book Occult Underground ties togerther some of the links.
it is not a matter of ideology and economics, those are mostly just invented to
serve other purposes, though there are often people even among elites who actually
believe in them.
Communism is an occultist idea not secular Susanna. MANY bankers and the corporations they own are and are run by occultists. Watch American Ruling Class, this is a promo for Goldman Sacs and the CFR made by them. They sing a song, with the lyrics ..."and yes our god is green". The love of money is the root of all evil.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0BNIBvkQwyA
Susanna,
Tarpley had a falling out with LaRouche long ago and dumped him and went
on with his own thing. I think Tarpley was the source of some of the
LaRouche stuff that made sense. Tarpley is great on history, but a total
failure points east of Venice but gets into really obscure stuff, incl.
Venetian links to the Reformation, AND the counter Reformation so they
had people fighting each other who would want to borrow money at exorbitant
rates to finance the wars. Venetians also persuaded the degenerate
renaissance popes to declare usury is just excessive interest, when it was
always defined before that as ANY amount of interest, and of course they
worked on Calvin to take the same attitude.
Tarpley's weak point is not to take Islam's danger seriously, or to
recognize that what he can be comfortable with among them is the result
of western influence, nothing out of itself. Also, he is too much of
a renaissance humanist. But he may be onto something with the aristotlianism
vs. Platonism thing, but probably exaggerates its importance.
LaRouche was right on like a handful of things but didn't he have OCD and go mad? I thought his printer jumped off a bridge or something.
Yeah, LaRouche gets a not interested, from me. Never heard of Webb and Tarply...
anon 10:04
if you had been paying attention to Constance, you would have
heard on her show on Saturdays (I forget which one) and definitely
a few times on this blog, reference James Webb THE OCCULT ESTABLISHMENT.
http://tarpley.net look for online books and read his Against Oligarchy
and also George Bush the Unauthorized Biography. If you want to shell
out money you can read Just Too Weird about Romney and some kind of
unauthorized biography or whatever about Obama.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/06/10/269371/mideasts-worst-case-a-big-war.html
Regular vs Babylonian Islam??
“The conditions are very much like 1914,” says Michael Stephens of the Royal United Service Institute in London.
( as planned?)
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/11/world/middleeast/us-embracing-a-new-approach-on-battling-isis-in-iraq.html?_r=0
Mighty ?mossad? ISIS plays civil war games in Iraq, are religious civil wars one of their duties?...maybe since at least the American Civil war.
Christine, 9:44P.M.
Re: I merely bring up those points as a rejection of any such that might crop up in
such places I point to, and because what you are talking about has its origins,
world conspiracy etc., in the 1800s.
I understand, and that's fine, but I just wanted to clarify that I was not referring to religion earlier.
Actually, I have both of James Webb's books, OCCULT UNDERGROUND and OCCULT ESTABLISHMENT and much of what I am talking about does have its origins in the 1800's - especially the occult secret societies that morphed out of French utopian socialism which, in turn had its origins in Henri de Saint-Simon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Henri_de_Rouvroy,_comte_de_Saint-Simon
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UTOPIAN SOCIALISM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopian_socialism
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cont...
cont..
The disciples of Saint-Simon actually made a kind of religion out of his ideas which was referred to as Saint-Simonianism.
SAINT-SIMONIANISM
Saint-Simon's earliest publications, such as his Introduction aux travaux scientifiques du XIXe siècle (Introduction to scientific discoveries of the 19th century) (1803) and his Mémoire sur la science de l'homme (Notes on the study of man) (1813), (the latter of which is a eulogy to Napoleon), demonstrate his faith in science as a means to regenerate society. In his 1814 essay De la réorganisation de la société européenne (On the reorganisation of European society), written in collaboration with his then secretary Augustin Thierry, Saint-Simon seems to have foreseen the European Union, expecting however that England would take the lead in forming a continent sharing the same laws and institutions..
For his last decade Saint-Simon concentrated on themes of political economy. Together with Auguste Comte, (then only a teenager), Saint-Simon projected a society bypassing the changes of the French Revolution, in which science and industry would take the moral and temporal power of medieval theocracy.
In his last work however, Le Nouveau Christianisme (The New Christianity) (1825), Saint-Simon reverted to more traditional ideas of renewing society through Christian brotherly love. He died shortly after its publication.......
......Following Saint-Simon's death, his followers began to differ as to how to promulgate his ideas. A 'charismatic' faction, led by Barthélemy Prosper Enfantin, purchased the newspaper Le Globe as their official organ, and formed an increasingly religiously-minded ritualistic group based on a community founded at Ménilmontant, before being banned by the authorities in 1832. Following this some of Enfantin's followers visited North Africa or the Middle East in search of Messianic revelations, and the formal Saint-Simonian movement expired....read more...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Simonianism
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Here is where the atomistic gender-bending we see today seems to have begun..... namely, with Enfantin, who "wore on his breast a badge with his title of Père, was referred to by his preachers as "the living law", declared himself to be the chosen of God, and sent out emissaries in a quest of a woman predestined to be the "female Messiah," and the mother of a new Saviour.....
BARTHELEMY PROSPER ENFANTIN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barth%C3%A9lemy_Prosper_Enfantin
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Gender-bending in the intellectual landscape of French romantic socialism became more pronounced under the Saint-Simonian/socialist "prophet" Simon Ganneau who anointed himself "the Mapah", an androgynous synthesis of maternal and paternal qualities who would soften the harder edges of contemporary social relations, ushering in an era of organic wholeness.
The "Mapah" also claimed to be the reincarnation of King Louis XVII while his wife claimedto be the reincarnation of Marie Antoinette.
His disciples included not only the infamous socialist and occultist Alphonse Louis Constant ( a.k.a. Eliphas Levi ), but also Flora Tristan, who was a feminist and grandmother of the famous artist Paul Gaugin.
It was one of the "Mapah's" disciples who is said to have fired the first shot that led to the revolution of 1848 in Paris.
thank you, this subject is so depressing I hate going through stuff
online to get links to support statements.
Failed Utopian Communes
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wrrIde7i-dQ
This was a really fun video to watch.
Anonymous 9:45
Re: Communism is an occultist idea not secular Susanna.
See my previous two posts.
Actually, it is both merged together.
At the time of the writing of the Book of Revelations, the two chief dangers to Christianity were Emperor Worship ( later secularism/statism ) and Gnosticism ( which includes all forms of occultism ). If these two dangers have had a tendency to go tandem down through the centuries, it is because of gnosticism's strong pantheistic strain according to which everything in the universe ( including emperors and/or the state ) are somehow all or a part of God.
Immediately following the French Revolution, two factions tried to set up their own state religions. The atheists led by the Hebertists tried to establish the Cult of Reason. The faction led by Robespierre, author of "the Terror," established the deist Cult of the Supreme Being. Times and laws were changed......the names of the months were changed as were the days of the week.
CULT OF REASON
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Reason
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CULT OF THE SUPREME BEING
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Supreme_Being
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The Thermadorian Reaction which toppled Robespierre partly involved the belief that Robespierre was about to establish himself as the "Supreme Being" according to the prognostications of the lunatic prophetess Catherine Theot who went around referring to herself as "the mother of god," and her partner Dom Gerle.
CATHERINE THEOT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Th%C3%A9ot
http://www.theodora.com/encyclopedia/t/catherine_theot.html
Ok, I will research that. These ideas don't begin in the 1800s, the people you list are all influenced by the likes of Fr. Bacon and Plato etc.. babylonian gods and soothsayers.. and all measure of religious people.
Anon. 10:41....
I've only watched 10 minutes so far, and it's made my day! Thanks for the link.
A battle for space used between Susanna and Christine. May the best woman win.
http://time.com/3915842/caitlyn-jenner-transition-kids-react/
I cannot believe this video. Mortified.
From OZ.
Re usury, Mosaic Law prohibited Jews from lending at interest only to other Jews, not to gentiles - so God does not view it as unalloyed evil. The real evil is the creation of fiat currency, ie banknotes that are not receipts stating truthfully that there is an equivalent amount of gold stored at a stated location for which the note can be exchanged on demand. Notice how the wording on dollar notes no longer says that, because there are more dollar notes than there is gold. That is a violation of other Mosaic Laws, namely those commanding fair weights and measures. If you or I try to print banknotes we get sent to jail as counterfeiters. If Uncle Sam does it then it's legal because he makes the laws. But it is nothing other than an abuse of power. Its effect is to amplify periods of boom, making them unsustainable, and amplify the resulting periods of bust, bringing misery.
Roosevelt's banning of the private ownership of gold during the Depression, preventing people from holding on to their legitimate wealth in the simplest way, was heinous. Something like that is coming again.
Unleash the Beast - Pharaoh Obama
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Anonymous, 11:06,
Are you referring to Francis Bacon? If you are, then why did you call him "Fr. Bacon?" He was not a priest. In fact, he wasn't even a Roman Catholic. He was a Protestant with a strong leaning towards Puritanism.....and possibly a Theosophist/Rosicrucian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bacon
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However, I do agree that these ideas ( i.e. Utopian Socialism which later morphed into communism ) do go back to Plato and mandate the implicit or explicit deification of the state. Especially Plato's work known as THE REPUBLIC.
IT STARTED WITH PLATO
https://mises.org/library/it-started-plato
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Plato’s Theory of Communism (Including 2 Forms of Communism)
http://www.yourarticlelibrary.com/political-science/platos-theory-of-communism-including-2-forms-of-communism/40134/
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Interestingly enough, Neo-Platonism was a form of Gnosticism which arose in the 3rd century A.D. and eventually wormed its way into the philosophy of Italian Renaissance thinkers such as Marsilio Ficino and Pico della Mirandola who were among the first to formulate what became known as the "perennial philosophy" - a philosophy which is a fundamental underpinning of the New Age Movement.
NEO-PLATONISM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoplatonism
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GIOVANNI PICO DELLA MIRANDOLA
Count Giovanni Pico della Mirandola (Italian: [dʒoˈvanni ˈpiko della miˈrandola]; 24 February 1463 – 17 November 1494) was an Italian Renaissance philosopher.[1] He is famed for the events of 1486, when at the age of 23, he proposed to defend 900 theses on religion, philosophy, natural philosophy and magic against all comers, for which he wrote the famous Oration on the Dignity of Man, which has been called the "Manifesto of the Renaissance", and a key text of Renaissance humanism and of what has been called the "Hermetic Reformation"....read more...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Pico_della_Mirandola
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PLATONIC ACADEMY ( a.k.a. FLORENTINE ACADEMY)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_Academy_(Florence)
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anon 5:17,
God may not view it as an unalloyed evil, but pagan philosophers denounced it.
the Church prohibited it outright and many canons forbade it and ordered
defrocking of any priest who did this, regarding lending to anyone, Christian
or not. It was viewed as an abnormality by the philosophers, who argued that
money, being an inanimate non organic thing should not be reproducing itself.
Also, since interest was charged over a period of time, you were paying for
use of money and for time which latter no one really owned.
Fiat currency is legitimate currency, prices don't just go up on their own,
people raise them. And it can happen with gold. A ghost town I read about
years ago had this history: men had loads of gold dust and I suppose
nuggets, figured the gold would never end, and didn't care what they paid
for anything. So the saloons charged $150 (in 1800s currency) per drink.
the gold ran out, the saloons closed, the men left, the town died.
Indians who used cowrie shells as money had an unlimited supply, anyone
could make their own money so to speak by just collecting cowrie shells
and stringing them. They didn't seem to have an inflation problem.
Interest is what makes the national debt so high, driving up taxes which
in turn help drive up prices to cover them. Another unexamined driver
of prices in general is real estate prices, which drive up real estate
taxes, and rental prices, which drives up everything else because
business owners have to pay rent and/or real estate taxes aside from
business taxes. Also greed gets into it. The real estate brokers of
course add to the problem, because they get a percentage of the property
they sell. Not that their line of work is inherently evil, but it adds
to it, especially when people think in terms of selling their property
at a profit over what they paid for it.
Before William the Conqueror (or William the Bastard) took over, most
English property was owned in common by extended families and some
tribes. Under feudalism, no one but the king and the church owned
property outright, the king distributed property to his vassals who
in turn sublet to their vassals and so forth. A few individual before
and after that were freeholders but mostly no one really owned, they
rented, usually in return for services not money. a game developed
I forget how it went, you needed three people and a lawsuit and one
of them "judgement proof" and when you were done with this, one of
them had the property as a freehold. Alienability means not just
that it can be taken from you, but that it can be sold. A classic
case of ignorance of meaning was when some guy 20 or 30 years ago
decided he should be free to sell himself as a slave because his
rights over himself according to the Constitution were inalienable.
Well, he was trying to alienate his self ownership.
Fiat currency combined with wage price controls, either established
by law or as in olden times by custom, would work fine.
http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/venices-war-against-western-civilization/
POPE'S 'FEELING' ABOUT SHORT PAPACY FUELS SPECULATION
Author sees possible fulfillment of 12th century bishop's prophecies
Published: 4 days ago
NEW YORK – On several occasions, Pope Francis has indicated to reporters he has “a feeling” his papacy may be short, ending either with his death or by following in Pope Benedict’s rare footsteps with retirement.
Last August, then 77 years old, he discussed the subject with reporters on a return flight to the Vatican from South Korea, as the Guardian of London reported.
“I see it as the generosity of the people of God,” he replied when asked to explain his global popularity. “I try to think of my sins, my mistakes and not to be proud. Because I know it will last only a short time. Two or three years, and then I’ll be off to the Father’s house.”
In a March interview with the Mexican TV broadcaster Televisa he again said he thought his papacy would be short.
“I have the feeling that my pontificate will be brief – four or five years, even two or three,” he said. “Two have already passed. It’s a somewhat strange sensation. I feel the Lord has placed me here for a short time.”
But he said he’s open to emulating Benedict, who in 2013 became the first head of the Roman Catholic Church in 600 years to resign.
“In general, I think what Benedict so courageously did was to open the door to the popes emeritus. Benedict should not be considered an exception, but an institution,” Francis said.
The pope’s statements have drawn the attention of Tom Horn, co-author with Chris Putnam of the 2012 book “Petrus Romanus: The Final Pope is Here.” Making a case for the prophecies of the 12th century Irish bishop St. Malachy, Horn wonders whether Francis might be Malachy’s predicted “last pope.”
Horn believes the pope’s statements indicate he could have assassination on his mind.
“This has most recently been raised in my mind between the pope’s reaction to threats by ISIS, who are driven by an apocalyptic vision from a Hadith (collection of teachings and sayings of Muhammad) in which Muhammad allegedly foresaw this end-times caliphate going to war against ‘the armies of Rome.’”
Horn said that while Rome doesn’t have an army, “if a coalition army came together and was endorsed by the pope under the Christian rules for just war, they could be seen fighting under Rome’s banner and you could have a literal fulfillment of the Hadith.”
Horn also referenced the controversial “Third Secret” of Fatima, an apocalyptic prophecy in which the pope is killed by a group of soldiers who shoot bullets and arrows at him as he walks among bishops, priests and Catholic believers who are lying dead around him. The prophecy came from the three Portuguese youths who claimed to have received a series of messages from the Virgin Mary that began in Fatima, Portugal, May 13, 1917.
As evidence Francis would be justified being concerned about an ISIS-backed assassination attempt, Horn pointed to the cover of the fourth issue of “Dabiq,” the official magazine of ISIS. It shows the ISIS flag flying over the obelisk at the center of St. Peter’s Square in the Vatican.
“This edition talks about destroying the ‘Crusader Army’ in Dabiq, Syria (the Hadith prophecy) and couldn’t be more ‘in your face’ about their intentions and their connecting this to the Vatican,” Horn said. “Does Pope Francis secretly believe the Islamic and Catholic prophecies could merge in his assassination?”
http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/lord-palmerstons-multicultural-human-zoo/
Cont.
Horn further asks: “Does the Fatima prophecy and the threat from ISIS describe Vatican City attacked in a large gathering such as will be happening later this year?”
He said the “idea of assassination has obviously been on the pope’s mind and ties to Catholic prophecy.”
“There is also something strange among some Catholic mystics who down the years have suggested the ‘Final Pope’ would arrive, but that shenanigans behind the scenes (possibly during conclave, as in the last “election”) would temporarily place a cardinal who was ‘not canonically elected,’” Horn said.
Therefore, he continued, Francis is not the real last pope “but is simply standing in place for a while for unknown reasons until the real ones steps forward.”
The “last pope,” he said, “will sit on the throne of Peter as a pretender until he is removed and the real Petrus Romanus arrives.”
“Was Francis placed there to accomplish some task? To guide the nations until Petrus Romanus is actually elected?”
Horn also referenced the controversial author Malachi Martin, an Irish Jesuit who left the order in 1964 and began writing a series of novels that advanced the theme of the Third Secret of Fatima. Martin believed the Roman Catholic Church would be destroyed by an internal heresy in which the clergy abandoned God, turned against the Catholic faith and began secretly advancing a diabolic “New World Order” apostasy.
In Martin’s book “The Jesuits,” he described a secret war that was going on behind the scenes in Rome between the Jesuits and the other priests for control of the Vatican, Horn explained.
“Malachi believed if ever the Jesuits took control of Rome that they would use the Catholic Church as a vehicle to usher in the New World Order via Marxism/Socialism/Environmental Law/and the United Nations.”
Noting that Francis is the first Jesuit elected pope, Horn reconsidered the Malachy prediction that suggests the days of the “final pope” are here.
“With the first Jesuit pope, doesn’t it feel as if the Catholic Church is following Malachy’s prediction like a blueprint?” Horn asked.
Horn pointed to passages from his book “Petrus Romanus” that reference early Catholic scholars who believed, as did the modern day Malachi Martin, that Rome would come under control of Satan in the end times and be used by conspirators, which Horn has connected with secret Catholic Freemasons, “to usher in the kingdom of antichrist.”
“This is something about which many modern Catholics are completely unaware,” Horn pointed out. “But there a strong belief that is held by many top Catholic theologians and mystics that the final New World Order apostasy that would bring an end to the Catholic Church would happen in biblical end times,” which Horn believes could be happening today.
Finally, Horn cited the 1907 novel by Robert Hugh Benson, “The Lord of Our World,” which portrays the antichrist who tempts Christians to apostasy before Christ’s Second Coming, culminating in a supernatural war in which the theological deception advanced by Satan seduces Catholics around the world to abandon their faith.
Religious commentators have noted Francis has referred to Benson’s novel many times, suggesting understanding Benson’s dystopian vision is important to understanding the larger themes that “give us the framework to understand Francis’ mindset.”
“Does the pope’s citations of the apocalyptic vision ‘Lord Of The World’ reflect his understanding of the role he has been given?” Horn asks. “We should not discount the common belief among many Catholic leaders of the past regarding ‘the great deception’ that would mislead Christians and provide for the coming of Antichrist – something Pope Francis appears to believe and may see himself as part of.”
Malachy's prophecy, for what its worth, does not depict the last pope
Petrus Romanus, as being evil, but as the shepherd of his flock through
a great persecution. This of course would not rule out satan having
control of the RC with the Petrus Romanus pope being among those who
were persecuted.
But in general there is a striking tendency to ignore not only Scripture
but even the details in the Malachy prophecy when figuring Petrus
Romanus is either the antichrist or the false prophet.
The Vatican not being on even one hill of Rome, and not inside the ancient
or modern Roman city limits, has nothing to do with the harlot Babylon.
that's just for starters.
Christine,
You might be looking at things from the perspective of today where fiat currency is a fact. But consider how it came into existence. Under the system of bartering of goods, one commodity, precious metals, emerged as a universal medium of exchange; these metals were essentially a proxy for food staples, backed by the grain storehouses of the wealthy – who valued the metals for ornamentation, while their scarcity provided prestige value. The metallic properties of durability, distinctiveness, portability and divisibility that made them suitable for ornamentation also suited them to be a medium of exchange (together with hideability). Receipts for precious metals that people had stored in the local goldsmith’s vault then became accepted in markets as paper money, based on the trustworthiness of the goldsmith, and by his merging the gold stored from each individual rather than retaining its identification with its depositor. To merge gold with confidence the goldsmith must weigh and assay it, and this saved people the need for spot verification of precious metals at the marketplace.
A goldsmith could propose to his depositors them that he identify people having plausible wealth-generating schemes, who might repay loans with interest. For a share of the interest he would coordinate a lending scheme. Those depositors who liked the idea could exchange their gold-equivalent receipts for notes to equivalent nominal value stating that they were involved in this scheme, and the gold-equivalent receipts they gave up would be loaned at interest to borrowers. This scheme spreads risk – and part of any profits – round lenders. The new notes were backed not by gold but by the collateral which borrowers were generally required to put up. Loans were therefore available preferentially to the already wealthy.
If the scheme went well then the new notes would soon be accepted in the marketplace as equivalent to the old receipts, despite the different wording on them stating that they could not be exchanged on demand for gold. In view of their practical equivalence in value, the goldsmiths’ guild might ask the ruler for permission to blur the distinction by insisting on their equivalence, so that a holder of the new notes could exchange them for gold of the same value from the vaults. Permission would be needed because depositors of gold who had not opted into the lending scheme could complain to the local ruler that they were collectively being defrauded; those at the back of a queue to redeem their receipts for gold could find it had all gone. Such a queue constitutes a ‘bank run,’ and it happens when there is public loss of confidence in the goldsmith/bank’s ability to repay. The ruler is nevertheless likely to agree to the guild’s request if he is able to tax the profits. He will generally restrict the ratio of paper money printed to gold held in vaults, but if he runs his own ‘central’ bank then it can print as much money as it wishes, so that it can always bail out a bank suffering a run. In return for such promised help the banks might be required to issue only the central bank’s unbacked money. The creation of fiat currency, in the ‘fractional reserve’ banking system described here and developed first in Europe in the last few centuries, amplifies unsustainable boom and distressing bust, with bad social consequences.
anon 5:50
I know all this. and BTW while gold became the big deal in Mesopotamia and
places west and south, it was silver that was the big deal in places east
especially India.
historically, the very people back of what you complain of, have also
been back of gold backed money demand as a solution to problems. The whole
mess is amplified by interest, and when govts. borrow at interest this
affects everyone.
contrary to some propaganda of the 1980s and 1990s, private businesses DO
operate on deficit spending of a sort they do operate on loans, and when
they balance their books the liability of what they still owe is put over
to next year's books so the part expected this year so to speak. is already
accounted for. ergo occasional bankruptcies, that and the contracts they
get bound into that take them down when suppliers go down (can't buy from
anyone else, or conversely must supply when they can't either way they pay
for this breaking of contract).
Now the amount of money put into circulation one way or another would
not create price increase UNLESS PEOPLE CHOSE TO RAISE THE PRICES. absent
contracts that dictate price increases (these do exist) this is a matter
of inidivual choice, writ large.
there is no hidden hand guiding big scale free enterprise. only human need,
ability, greed and irrationality often shown as bubbles that burst. when
it is a large population, while individuals fail and suffer and even die,
the overall picture goes on, when smaller like the scene in what became
a ghost town, or in drastic depressions, everyone fails and suffers and
more die or move elsewhere.
the recent real estate crash is a case in point. with the property values
down, you would think any sane person or institution would heave a sigh
of relief and say, enough, we don't drive them up again. yet housing
organizations and others talk about keeping or driving property values
high. why? mostly so the property owner can get "equity" out of it.
sounds less ominous than "mortgage."
Eddie Fitzgerald in the Pentagonists, one of the books he wrote about
the $600 toilet seatws and other ripoffs by govt. contractors, said
that a kind of accounting was developed by these people, which
presupposed inflation and wrote that in ahead of time, demanding
each year's already fraudulent prices be higher, this being agreed to
years ahead of time.
this kind of accounting worked its way into the general business scene,
starting with, ta-da! the medical industry.
"I know all this."
Then for heaven's sake join the dots and acknowledge the moral wrong in it. If you or I print money we get thrown in jail; if the government does it then it's fine? Nonsense. Granted that Obama doesn't print it for his own personal use as monarchs used to do, but the Fed hands it to the bankers to loan to people with most collateral, ie the already wealthy, many of them bankers or ex-bankers or friends of bankers who can repay the favor... it's a racket alright, and for every dollar bill printed then every other dollar bill held by other people gets worth a little less.
And please acknowledge my point that fiat currency greatly magnifies the business cycle and consequent instability.
anon 6:47
"Then for heaven's sake join the dots and acknowledge the moral wrong in it. If you or I print money we get thrown in jail; if the government does it then it's fine? Nonsense."
you are forgetting the God ordained authority of the govt. which of course is
being to some extent violated by working against the peoples' interest instead
of for the peoples' interest. with the connivance of the people who love the
lure of wealth it seems to give at first, then are trapped in the system. incl. the
prez. the problem that needs to be addressed is how to rollback at least some of it.
I don't deny your point, I never denied it, I said I know all that.
what you are not facing is that there is more to it than that.
for instance, as long as barter is legal, a gold find would be
potentially destabilizing. The fact you won't face, is that increase
of circulating fiat or other money does not act on its own. the
attendant price increases are individual choices in what to charge,
and those drivers behind this which are increased prices driving
some but not all of those choices, either the specific or at least
the amount at issue.
where do these come from? to a great extent from those who have
built price increase into contracts years ahead of time, forcing
the increase.
look at the gas prices. They vary per locality greatly, based not
on gas company needs like upkeep, gasoline and pay salaries or
wages and make some (I said SOME) profit. they vary based on what
they know people can afford and will pay without driving some
distance to pay less.
gold is a sort of fiat money though not entirely, but has no intrinsic
value except what people put on it. its instrinsic value is electric,
radiation shielding, decoration, medical and, in its fulminate form,
explosive. as a chunk out of the ground it is inherently worthless.
"you are forgetting the God ordained authority of the govt."
So the rebellion against the God ordained British Government of the 13 Colonies was wrong then?
not necessarily. they were in fact violating british subjects'
legal rights in how they treated the colonists. The ideas in
the Declaration of Independence draw more on the Enlightenment
and so forth than the Bible and mention God as an afterthought
in such a way that they obviously (the writers as distinct from
some gulled signers) meant the masonic deistic conept not the God
of The Bible. The Constitution doesn't even mention God.
But while it was part of Francis Bacon's long range plan, it also
was something God had some use for, and if several prophecy
analysts are correct, was foreordained at least from shortly
before Daniel, as it would then be the Britain-America eagle
winged lion. which will face a smackdown and maybe have repentance
of all its sins. ethnically, to some extent religiously, and
linguistically, America is british.
in addition, if everyone does this fiat money and/or
forges coins and whatever, this can be a problem given
the greed drivers when prices increase inresponse to
obvious ability and demand of the newly rich. And those
licensed to do fractional reserve banking have more
capability and funds to play this game than an average
individual would. Still, the very very low reserve
allowed is wrong.
Christine wins the space filler contest by a space slide. Susanna you gave up too soon. Christine needs competition and no one is as up to it as you seemed to be. Somebody has to be better at cut and paste than Christine. Then again who reads what anyone pastes. The fun is in the umpire comments and the distance measuring.
11:07 Marco, Susanna's posts had listed a few people who influenced or had been influenced by some groups or people in these utopian societies. It reminded me that I had watched that awhile ago and I really enjoyed it. Glad you liked it.
Looks like it was mce vs susanna today, hope the weekend is better. I will be off the net for good in a few days, I can't wait.
8:40 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Susanna, I was being lazy he was not father bacon he was francas bacon, soothsayer, shakespear, as in shake a spear at (the profane probably) and he had a team of writers who were unifying the English language and his theater group went around influencing values, attitudes, and beliefs..a travelling Hollywood if you know what I mean Illuminati style, Shakespear's globe theater troop. I am sure was also into Kaballah and their is some man who studies this from Europe, I saw him on Oak Island. You guys know more than me about him. I am just a sloppy thinker who can't understand acedemic writings.
www.isbe.net/career//EFE_conf_pres0911.pdf
Thank you Susanna, it all goes back to Plato and now we chat here on the new Alexandria Library, the www, gathering everything and catching it in the web.
Mary Byrne explains how Common Core is about Plato's Republic
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wx_zHcshIoQ
Best youtube video of all time, I love this one:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UQa-_h4qpUw
All tied together here by a really smart Chistian lady. You know, if Muller gave credit to Dwal Khul for OBE, how obvious is it that this current generation is under complete control of modern day Druids or new agers. Next stop after OBE, brain scans at school, brain chips, forced meditation, microwaved brains, and naturally an externalization of the hirearchy (satan's caste system?) maybe via Howard Gardners MI embeded in those pesky learning tablets, not to mention IBM ( the Holocaust punch card makers) and student data directly entered into Watson (link above). I don't think it can be stopped.
e-receive-healthcare/
Watson = Artificial Intelligence as...death pannels..so now they will have birth to death, sorry Pre Natal that is P-20 data records stored in a cloud (amazon or google server that you pay taxes to rent) ripe to enter into Watson, thus eliminating the blame game on who decides should die. Uh, I was just following what Watson said..and thank God Alex Jokes is the only imposter reporting it so anyone like me who sees it locally will be called a conspiracy nut in 5...4...3...2..1...
Wait a minute! Plato was all about the state raising kids from birth, was he not?
Anyway google Watson IBM death pannels
www.isbe.net/career//EFE_conf_pres0911.pdf
cannot be found
Over 70? Watch out
http://www.independentsentinel.com/dangerous-new-models-u-n-s-new-sustainable-goals-target-the-over-70-year-olds-for-deathcare/
Dangerous New Models: U.N.’s New Sustainable Goals Target the Over-70 Year Olds for DeathCare
by S. Noble • June 5, 2015
http://judymorrisreport.blogspot.com/2013/12/death-panels-obamacares-ideological.html
Thanks for the lead anonymous 10:13 Found this http://naturalsociety.com/new-computer-will-decide-receive-healthcare/
"...For years, it has been an open secret that all of our “Big Data” has been harvested and stored without our consent. This includes every Facebook thought, phone conversation, every purchase, and even household conversations, to name a few. There is no doubt that this “Big Data” is waiting to be used towards withholding or forcing medical treatment at the stroke of a bureaucratic pen in the future.
The role being given to IBM’s Watson represents the official shift to disempower the practicing medical community and accelerate the mandates of Obamacare in your individual life. You could say IBM’s Watson is “common core re-education for the mind of the medical community..."
glancing over the concerns expressed by the people the death care links address,
what I see is that things are headed in the direction of primitive (and in some
cases semi civilized ancient) villages and city states, where the infants could
be killed if they were sickly, and even to now, the real interest parents have
in children is that they are to be their support system when old, and make
useful marital alliances, and though the old are usually cared for because of
their wisdom it is a pragmatic usefulness still to train the young and adult
in what is useful to survival of the community.
everything in such concerns revolves around pragmatism. Sure, family relationships
and tribal ones working smoothly contribute to survival. but that, like "civic
religion" where Christianity (or whatever) is valued for its pragmatic social
reasons not for issues of truth, this is what you could call a "civic morality,"
something that is not about some overarching right and wrong but rather it is
good because it promotes survival.
having a better understanding of such societies than the usual Americans, who
think everyone is the same, I always mocked the "family values" concept, which
was ably parodied by some people. And correctly depicted in some parodies.
When the only value is what is good for the family, prostitution, adultery
with useful powerful outsiders, abortion, infanticide, murder and even
homosexuality are fine, as long as in the context they occur they promote the
survival and economic and status advancement of the relatives of those who
do them. Cross cultural and trans time study show this.
and this is what is the direction this is going in.
A serious effort to save the young and old might well require nationalization
of the health system - free health care, mandatory service by the medical
people, their food clothing and housing provided on site, or this as part of
what they owe if they get trained at govt. expense. ditto the pharmaceutical
industry.
this would be outrageous to the big money and arrogance people, so of course
the controls are intended to go on recipients of care not providers. Whose
greed often creates the problems in the first place.
Me: "If you or I print money we get thrown in jail; if the government does it then it's fine? Nonsense."
Christine: "you are forgetting the God ordained authority of the govt"
And you are forgetting that the king/government should also be under the law, for that is the Mosaic precedent. Those laws included ones against unfair weights and measures, such as putting base metal into coins and printing the same value on them as before, which is another form of fiat currency.
Oh thank you dear Christine for elaborating on the links for those obviously unable to read and understand on their own. There must be so many of them following this blog. Thank you for your service.
M.C.Erikson for President!
Only she knows everything and can figure all this out!
If the future looks hairy, you must vote Mary
VOTE ERIKSON!!
She's the only candidate who doesn't need a running mate
( I can't wait for the debates. She knows all that stuff, and more! )
Complaining about fiat money, and banks control over humanity?
How many who post here pay for everything at the checkout with plastic? Or pay numerous bills every month for all the stuff they desperately needed on credit???
How many here complaining about Massive Media programing pay the monthly bill for TV?
Stop enabling!
Dear 9.09am,
Provided that paper money or even digital readouts of bank accounts are backed up by the same amount of gold in vaults and exchangeable on demand then they are not fiat currency, just a convenient proxy. But they are not, and that is what I am complaining about. Compare what used to be written on dollar bills and what is written on them today.
Dear Christine,
Fiat currency constitutes the nationalisation of the people's exchange medium. Gold came to be preferred because it acted as a proxy for food staples, backed by the grain storehouses of the wealthy – who valued the metals for ornamentation, while their scarcity provided prestige value. And food staples are obviously always going to be an acceptable exchange medium. You wrote: gold is a sort of fiat money though not entirely, but has no intrinsic value except what people put on it. its instrinsic value is electric, radiation shielding, decoration, medical and, in its fulminate form, explosive. as a chunk out of the ground it is inherently worthless. You are correct that gold would be useless to a few people marooned on a desert island, but gold is a proxy, not a fiat currency. If you don't properly understand the term "fiat currency" then you claim to "know all this" is patently untrue. Fiat currency is something that has no value in the society it circulates in except that which the ruler puts on it by declaration (Latin: "fiat", meaning Let it be.).
Christine could and should follow in the wake of Shrillary Clinton so her name recognition could increase and get her fix for the whole world message out there. Constance Cumbey's blog today--tomorrow the world!!!!!!
Why should we be the only ones so blessed?
anon 9:37
I said gold is a SORT OF fiat currency though NOT ENTIRELY.
a fiat currency can be produced like you describe, but it is
essentially any currency that is legal tender because the
govt. (or custom of ages) says it is, and does not represent
anything but acceptance of it and is not backed by anything.
all your gold has to do to become an inflationary out of
control situation and worthless, is to be found in a HUGE
vein near the surface, anyone can get at, and that everyone
will use as legal tender and ignore the "worthless" pieces
of paper and degraded coin, with no limits placed or enforced
on prices because everyone rolling in dough doesn't care.
food staples could not be fiat currency, because valuable
in themselves, but also are the usual object not means of
trade.
and the very same people who are behind the monetized debt
situation, which is what the fiat currency is all about,
are also the ones who have pushed a gold standard (which would
make it easier to control the world's wealth as they got more
and more control of the gold).
the real problem is the monetized debt. THAT is what the fiat
currency is all about, THAT is what the fiat currency makes
possible. monetized debt is you print money representing what
is given to you the govt. in trade for your bonds sold to the
fed. reserve, and circulate those. the bonds in turn are
interest bearing, and the people are taxed to pay principal and
interest, and that interest never stops growing.
the second problem is inflation of prices. Someone pointed out
long ago that the math formula back of the equation of inflation
of circulation of money with inflation of prices has a flaw.
The price inflation is the only thing that directly impacts the
man and woman in the street, and therefore the only thing that
matters. the TAXES ARE A DRIVER OF THIS so monetized debt tends
to drive prices higher, as taxes are what pays it back. THIS AND
NOT PRESENCE OR ABSENCE OF BACKING OF THE MONEY.
the second driver of prices is greed and individual choices.
And this can be restrained by wage price controls, which in ancient
times (except when it wasn't) was done by custom and more recently
sometimes by law. This is not "socialism" or "communism" which is
(or pretends to be) abouit the masses owning the means of production.
(which is exactly what you have when workers have stock ownership
in the company they work for as an option instead of regular pay.)
meanwhile, the only reason gold was such a stabilizing force for
decades was NOTHING TO DO WITH ITS VALUE SUCH AS YOU THINK. It was
because ITS PRICE WAS ARBITRARILY FIXED BY THE BRETTON-WOODS
AGREEMENT AT $35 AN OUNCE. once this price limit was taken off, and
"freemarket" came into play it became useless as any kind of
stability.
anon 5:34 "And you are forgetting that the king/government should also be under the law, for that is the Mosaic precedent"
not at all. it is a question of what specific rules are in the law, and the Mosaic
law presupposes a distinction between the people at large and those who must
enforce the law and the whole purpose of the king/govt. is to do what the
individual cannot or should not (to avoid total chaos and anarchy like Mad Max
or something) being doing on their own. the Mosaic law said the king was not
to exalt his heart above the people, but his role was to manage and lead the
people and this must be for their good not his own advantage. or pride.
https://www.intellihub.com/behind-bilderberg-trilateral-the-globalists-have-a-major-problem/
a good example of the flexibility of the mosaic law was that it allowed
existing structures, while placing an overarching rule. there was no police force
like we have now. when someone was killed "the avenger of blood" was to pursue
and kill the murderer. the phrasing sounds like someone usually a relative sent
to avenge related blood but.....you also had to be dead sure the target was guilty.
and if the killing was accidental, the avenger could not touch him or her if that
person got to a city of refuge and remained there (this limitation on travel and
interference with their normal life being effectively a penance for carelessness
and a sop to the angry relatives) for the durationof the life of the high priest.
if the avenger of blood found them outside the city of refuge he could kill the
person.
HOWEVER, it also says to carefully investigate a matter and find the truth.
now,NOTHING IN ANY OF THQAT VALIDATES THE STRICT LIMITATIONS OUR STANDARD OF EVIDENCE HAS. IN FACT IT GOES AGAINST THIS. on the other hand, since the overarching
concern is that the guilty be punished and the innocent freed, "enhanced
interrogation" has to be set aside as not practical because it tends to produce
false information and false confessions.
any system of justice whether involving the priests as final judge, the king as final judge, or the army or civilian police or designated relatives will do, provided it accomplishes the GOAL God specifies.
bearing this principle in mind, you can see that no system of politics or economics has any divine special backing outside of what it in fact accomplishes in the
situation it is in.
Thank you Christine for providing the day's entertainment via a puzzle. Your post challenges us to put the words into the right order so that we can understand what you've written. Are you offering a prize this time?
Thanks for everything, (nothing) Christine.
Once again, you have made mud out of, yet, another topic.
You have missed your calling.
You belong in politics.
Shrillary Clinton needs someone to tell the peons where to find the back of the line.
You would be perfect for the job.
Yes (Christine), monetising debt is another problem with fiat currency. But fiat currency is what's wrong and it's wrong for the moral reasons I set out. There are many ways to build wrongfulness on wrongfulness and you have added one more way to the examples I gave.
Incidentally even with backed paper money there can be a problem with sovereign borrowing, as many of the banknotes (each stating, truthfully, "this is redeemable for a fixed amount of gold from the national vaults") may then fall into the hands of the leader of a foreign country if he "buys up your nation's debt"; then what?
anon 6:18
you have pointed out another problem going on now. foreign
ownership of American debt notes to banks, and probably not
just ours.
however, it does provide a motive to not devastate a country
whose debt you own, if you do go to war. After all, you want
it in shape to pay you something, or to have enough left to
loot.
Chinese braggadocio about the radiation their bombs could
unlesh on the USA can be probably ignored, a handful of nukes
and a big invasion, not radiation poisoning all the ground
that includes property they already own. scattered over
several states. incl. at least one major port (San Diego or
something else?) they effectively control.
isbe watson student data
12:06 google this ^^^
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/06/12/gun-protesters-plan-to-march-through-st-louis-zoo/
So here we have another psychological operation. This 'call to action' like the anti-shariah events and probably that land grab thing in Nevada and maybe others not on my radar is yet another set up.
Dear dumb long gun owners, pleez cum out go the zoo and show yer face cause this is the zoo that person on Constance's blog told yall bout. They have had perfect facial recognition software and sophisticated cameras and even operatives who follow you round if you iz a right wing evangelical Christian, and especialy if you hate muslims, own a gun or helped change state policy fer the better, thanks, DHS and the ADL. PS, we will be sure to have informants and undercover people to record you all 2. See we gots the technology and yer countty is long gone but we luv scaring ya and making yall come on out.
Oh and we are just gettin started ...PPS the arabs are here to stay we want multiculturalism.
Sun Tzu says apear weak when you are strong.
Come on people trust me, I figured out what they were doinb and quit, wake up. Stay home.
The only people who even took my photo were the Muslim Brotherhood and the ADL front group. I never commited a crime in my whole boring patriotic Christian life. And I am telling you that they sent four people to follow my entire family and photograph us, it was so strange I did not figure it out for two years. If I had been alone, I would have not believed it was happening. Honestly, they seemed nervous. I may have been an early case, if not the first case. The system that they have is sophisticated. I wonder who owns the zoo.
Missouri has received nearly $570 million in federal homeland security funds since the Sept. 11 attacks, according to the Federal Emergency Management Agency. For the most part, the money has passed through the state's Department of Public Safety to localities. Roughly a quarter of the state's funding, or about $144 million, has flowed through the Urban Areas Security Initiative to the St. Louis and Kansas City areas. - See more at: https://www.stlbeacon.org/#!/content/15290/did_we_spend_the_money_wisely_or_did_we_just_spend_money
Wow. What is happening in your state? At above link, see 'data provided by' regional governance, Kansas City and East West Gateway (st louis s. IL) those are the A21 regional china style boards that really run our states. They do all those delphi meetings and run the transportation boondoggles. You live under one two.
too
Christine, nations regularly default on debt. It is dishonest but priced into bonds so bondholders can't really complain. Greece is about to do this, for instance. Spain regularly did it in the early modern period. Do you think the USA wouldn't do it if threatened by China? Why do you think China has started to get out of US debt?
nations can only go so far in defaulting on debts, this happens too often
you get a situation where you can't get more money and maybe your creditors
finance an enemy to go to war on you.
the latter option is exactly what was at the root of many wars for
centuries.
China already owns a lot of land and businesses here, or has extensive
holdings in such and can claim them as sovereign debt, so that for
instance lets say they own (and they do) several blocks in some city.
That can become sovereign Chinese land. not usa property anymore, but
outside of US borders and within Chinese borders like some island
property but surrounded by land not water, and subject to military
defense by China.
in fact, some of the Agenda 21 rewilding plan might well relate
to this, the land that is not to have American humans on it
might instead end up being Chinese property with Chinese
humans on it, and no body notice much because nobody is supposed
to be there, and you don't get protests and stuff like that.
Anon. 9:55.....
Take this for what's it's worth, but a while back, Nathan Leal advised people to NOT get involved in conservative, pro-gun, or any other pro-everything-that-is-good rallies and protests. Your concern of being photographed is not the only concern. He had a vision where there was an ambush, and by ambush he meant: it was a conservative patriot group that did the ambushing of federal agents. That led to a bunch of protest movements all over the place, and in the vision, he just felt like he wasn't supposed to be a part of any of it. His patriotism was questioned, and still he felt like God was telling him that this "revolution" was NOT from Him, and to have no part of it.
All it's gonna take is one spark like that to throw this country into civil war. Similar things have happened in the past - OKC bombing, etc - but the entire atmosphere in the country is different now than it was then. It's a lot less stable, if that makes sense.
When the right event comes along that sets this country on fire, I'm thinking that things will move rather quickly. Expect the unexpected. We all have this script in our minds of how we think things will unfold, and I think most, if not all of us will be VERY struck by how different it will be from what we thought. Different, and yet, in the light of scripture it will still make sense. "Oh yeah, I see it now. So *that's* what that meant...."
Isn't that what it means in Daniel when it says the meaning will be sealed up until the end?
Most important is to get close to God, so you can follow HIS leading through the Holy Spirit, not the leading of your patriot group leader, or your pastor, or your best friends, or your own wisdom gathered from books and websites, or any other "reliable" source of information about "What to do when the crap hits the fan."
Just some thoughts that your postings have jogged in my mind.
11:55 thanks for sharing those very helpful thoughts!
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