Tuesday, August 17, 2010



One would think that with all the biblical penalties ascribed to those who finally succeed in being the antichrist and the false prophet that nobody would want the job.  Au contraire, there have always been aspirants aplenty.  Tonight FALSE DAWN author LEE PENN and I will have an on-air relatively light hearted discussion tonight. 

Join us and STAY TUNED!



Constance Cumbey said...

Lee and I had what I like to think was a good show tonight. It will be rebroadcast later. He will join me as well on Thursday night.

Thanks to those of you who listened and voted. We ended up #10 on Talkstreamlive rankings for tonight.


Anonymous said...

Records show Feds used ultra-right radio host for years...


JD said...

Figures, I would miss what was probably a solid show. I posted a piece in the last thread I would really like others to get a look at. While it is a religion piece on climate change, there are some other very important details within the margins.

Anonymous said...

Back To School? Bring Your Own Toilet Paper

When Emily Cooper headed off to first grade in Moody, Ala., last week, she was prepared with all the stuff on her elementary school’s must-bring list: two double rolls of paper towels, three packages of Clorox wipes, three boxes of baby wipes, two boxes of garbage bags, liquid soap, Kleenex and Ziplocs.

“The first time I saw it, my mouth hit the floor,” Emily’s mother, Kristin Cooper, said of the list, which also included perennials like glue sticks, scissors and crayons.

Schools across the country are beginning the new school year with shrinking budgets and outsize demands for basic supplies. And while many parents are wincing at picking up the bill, retailers are rushing to cash in by expanding the back-to-school category like never before.

Now some back-to-school aisles are almost becoming janitorial-supply destinations as multipacks of paper towels, cleaning spray and hand sanitizer are crammed alongside pens, notepads and backpacks.

For more...

Craig said...

I've been reading through some of the links from the article JD sent from the last post. As a Texas resident I looked for info on the state. There's a Texas Interfaith Power & Light organization which is doing its part in promoting Gaia worship through its ecumenical drive using energy reduction and environmental concerns as its vehicle. Here's one article:


Interfaith Work on Chemical Policy Reform Highlighted in Tikkun.org Blog
Amanda Quraishi, member of the Austin Muslim community and a Texas Impact member, recently highlighted the Texas faith community's work on chemical policy reform in her article, "Eco-Friendly Faith," on Tikkun.org. She writes, "As Muslims, we understand that our submission to God is intrinsically tied to the way we treat His gift of life on this planet. A peaceful, gentle reverence for plants, animals and landscapes are part of the fabric of our religion and translate beautifully through Islam’s strong foundation of social justice and activism. Therefore, the environmental movement is one area where Muslims can make a huge contribution to society at large, and to productive interfaith dialogue."

Amanda Robinson, Coordinator of Texas Interfaith Power and Light, is quoted in the article as saying, "The world’s great religious traditions all speak of care for the earth and its creatures. In the Abrahamic traditions – Judaism, Christianity and Islam – there is a call to guardianship and care of creation. In the Eastern traditions of Hinduism and Buddhism, there is a profound sense of the interconnectedness of all life on earth. Although our traditions use different terms, the message on this subject is the same – it is a unified call for humans to care for the environment."

Anonymous said...


Thought you might be interested in this article:

[Waldorf] Schools claim Lucifer as model and guardian


Anonymous said...

From the Drudge Report (08/18/10)

Russia Scholar Warns of 'Secret" U.S. Climate Change Weapon


Anonymous said...

From Spirit Daily (08/18/10)

Will the Bizarre Weather of 2010 Set the Stage for a Major Global Food Shortage in 2011?


Susanna said...

Anonymous 11:51 AM

Good post!

For those who may have never heard about it, here is the lowdown on HAARP.



Your post is very interesting in light of JD's post on the previous thread at 4:41 PM about "environmental apocalypse" - especially where it reads:

The Center for a New American Security has posted a link to a Pentagon report that says, in part, that new patterns in the weather "may act as an accelerant of instability or conflict, placing a burden to respond on civilian institutions and militaries around the world." This is certainly the case in a place like Pakistan, where, as Richard Holbrooke, the United States Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, argues, this catastrophe "is not just another flood in Asia, a headline which doesn't get much attention here. This is the worst floods, monsoon floods in Pakistan's history since well before independence. 1926 was the last thing this size. Secondly, it looks like the area affected has at least 14 million to 20 million people in it. So far the death, that's far more than the tsunami and Haiti combined." It is huge problem from a security standpoint, to summarize this interview with Holbrooke, because it is politically, economically and militarily destabilizing. It is critial to see that the magnitude of these climate events and the resulting social, political and economic chaos is exactly the climate in which violent extremist groups such as the Taliban or Al Qaeda thrive.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Anon 8:51

Thanks for the link. It's astounding how blatant and open people are now about their rejection of Christ and submission to Lucifer.

Dave in CA

Anonymous said...

"He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past." [George Orwell, 1984]

"People simply disappeared, always during the night. Your name was removed from the registers, every record of everything you had ever done was wiped out, your one-time existence was denied and then forgotten. You were abolished, annihilated: vaporized was the usual word." [George Orwell, 1984]

"They say those who win the war write the history. That has changed to those who can write, can rewrite history and these days that's pretty much anybody." [Phil Robibero, Manipulating History through Analogy]

DTMorris, III said...

Great article entitled:
Solana answers Antichrist question.
Posted on August 18, 2010 by Wickus
Wickus here: It is good to have friends watching the European news as some of it does not feature in the US or here in Africa. One such friend is Bjorn (Farmer) who was so kind to translate the following interview with Solana. It sounds like he is not interested in returning to politics. Maybe [...]


D.T. Morris, III

Constance Cumbey said...

To Anonymous 8:51

Rudolf Steiner was the acknowledged, official head of the European Illuminati (yes, there really was an occult federation under that name.) He wrote that when Jesus promised to send the "Holy Spirit" that he meant "the Lucifer Spirit."


A newspaper reporter in Detroit told me back in 1993 when we were fighting Waldorf Education in Detroit public schools as religion that should not legally be taught that a child came home and reported to her mother that she had been shamed in class by saying she had "brought disgrace to the good name of Lucifer."


Constance Cumbey said...

I'm going to publish a picture which I want reactions too -- maybe I'm seeing too much, but I think there's a distinct resemblance -- maybe coincidence, maybe not. Time and events will ultimately tell.

Constance Cumbey said...

I'm going to publish a picture which I want reactions too -- maybe I'm seeing too much, but I think there's a distinct resemblance -- maybe coincidence, maybe not. Time and events will ultimately tell.


Lisa said...


Why does the word "illuminati" spelled backwards (with a .com for the internet: itanimulli.com) bring up the National Security Agency when pasted on the address bar?


Craig said...


Sorry; but, my fast aging eyes cannot read the caption under the first photo. Would you identify the individual?


Anonymous said...

To D. T. Morris III (9:48 PM):

Re: that link you provided

I love the line that states that Javier Solana 'remains a person of interest.'

Constance Cumbey said...

First photo is Javier Solana in a pub, cigarette in hand, age probably 24-25. Picture was taken in 1967.


Constance Cumbey said...

Lee Penn and I will continue the discussion tomorrow night on MY PERSPECTIVE internet radio, 8 to 9 eastern time, 5 to 6 Pacific time.


Anonymous said...

9/11 mosque website gets 'Abu-scrubbed'
Muslim initiative removes photos, key information

Posted: August 18, 2010
10:45 pm Eastern
By Aaron Klein
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

The Cordoba Initiative, the controversial group behind a proposed Islamic cultural center and mosque near Ground Zero, has been scrubbing its website of key information and documentation.

Cordoba's website previously listed the group's board members as well as a group of advisers. The names have since vanished from the site. The list of both advisers and board members are still available in web archives. Another section of the site previously commented on the meaning of the word Cordoba, but that section has been removed.

The site read:

The Cordoba Name:

For hundreds of years during the middle ages, Cordoba was the capital of Muslim Spain. During much of its "golden age" from the 8th to 12th centuries, the Cordoba Caliphate witnessed a great flowering of culture, art, and philosophical inquiry amid a remarkable climate of religious tolerance. Religious freedom, while not perfect, was sufficient that many Jewish and Christian intellectuals emigrated to Cordoba, where they lived, wrote and flourished side by side with their Muslim counterparts in a strikingly pluralistic society. The Cordoba name reminds both Muslims and non-Muslims that a great Islamic civilization was once the most open and tolerant of its era."

This is straight out of the A.O.C. playbook.


Anonymous said...


Wow! There is a striking resemblance between the two pictures you posted! Not sure if it's coincidence or not, but I guess time will tell.

Anonymous said...

Rare Documentary: Maitreya's appearance in Nairobi, Kenya, 1988



Anonymous said...


I asked about that illuminati/NSA website.

I guess you can register any domain name at go daddy and then redirect it to another site.

Lisa said...

To Anonymous 10:11 am,

Thank you for your response!

Would they need permission from the site that the domain name gets redirected to (i.e. the NSA) in order to do this?


Anonymous said...


“ISRAEL DISCOVERS MASSIVE RESERVES OF OIL, GAS.” That chapter is based on prophecies in Deuteronomy that specifically indicate that “oil” and “hidden treasures” under the sea and the sands will be found in Israel in the last days of history.

It is also based on the prophecies of Ezekiel 38 & 39 indicating that Israel will be significantly prosperous in the last days, before a Russian-Iranian-Turkish alliance forms against her and seeks to destroy her.

In recent years — and indeed, in recent months — we seem to be seeing this Russian-Iranian-Turkish alliance growing. We also see Israel’s economy growing significantly and remarkable new discoveries of oil and gas.

God's Word ALWAYS comes true. Estimates of the amount of oil in the Rosh HaAyin discovery have rises to 1.5 billion barrels, and there is more oil off-shore, but it is not yet known how much of the "black gold" can be extracted for commercial use.

The new estimate, along with the gas and oil finds off the Mediterranean Coast, raise the likelihood that Israel will be self-sufficient for energy for the next three decades and even become an exporter of gas.


Anonymous said...


Giant Brazilian Temple Replica Panned as 'Mockery'

reprinted from Arutz 7
Av 28, 5770, 08 August 2010

by Hillel Fendel

(Israelnationalnews.com) Temple Institute in Jerusalem says plan by a controversial Brazilian Pentecostal church to build a mammoth $200 million Holy Temple replica is "self-aggrandizement."

The Universal Church of the Kingdom of God, headed by controversial Bishop Edir Macedo, has announced plans to build a giant replica of the First Temple in Sao Paulo, Brazil. It is expected to cost $200 million, stand 55 meters (18 stories) high, and seat 10,000 people. Its plans also call for a parking lot for 1,000 cars, TV and radio studios, and classroom space for 1,300 pupils.

"It is going to be a knockout," Macedo has been quoted as saying. "It is going to be beautiful, beautiful, beautiful – the most beautiful of all. The outside will be exactly the same as that which was built in Jerusalem."

The Temple Institute in Jerusalem takes a different approach, calling it a "hubris-inspired act of self-aggrandizement… the equivalent of [yet another] destruction of the [Holy] Temple, even before it is [re-]built. This planned church is a mockery which stands in diametric opposition to everything that the Holy Temple of Jerusalem represents."

The Universal Church has already paid $8 million to import stones from Israel. The Guardian reports that the church will be modeled on King Solomon's Temple and will feature a replica Ark of the Covenant in the center of the sanctuary.

Rabbi Chaim Richman of the Temple Institute writes, "We are witness today to the phenomenon of nations that seek to de-legitimize Israel's connection to Jerusalem. This planned mega-church represents the next logical step, the de-legitimization of the significance of Jerusalem altogether." Click here to watch Rabbi Richman.

"The Bible teaches that the essence of Jerusalem is the presence of G-d," Rabbi Richman continues, quoting Isaiah's prophecy: "It will happen in the end of days, that the mountain of the Temple of the L-rd will be firmly established at the head of the mountains…and all the nations will stream to it. Many peoples will go up and say, ‘Come, let us go up to the mountain of the L-rd, to the Temple of the G-d of Jacob…for from Zion will the Torah come forth, and the word of the L-rd from Jerusalem.'

"Bishop Macedo's planned mega-church," Rabbi Richman continued, "is a usurpation and abuse of the sacred space that is embodied by the Biblical concept and vision of the Holy Temple, and a gross expropriation of Judaism's most sacred values. The Divine Presence of G-d cannot be copycatted and cannot simply be usurped and transplanted elsewhere. This is nothing more than the Universal Church of the Kingdom of God's cynical and manipulative attempt to morph the Bible's universal message into its own self-serving agenda."

The Temple Institute, a non-profit educational and religious organization, is dedicated to every aspect of the Biblical commandment to build the Holy Temple of G-d on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem. Its major focus is its efforts towards the beginning of the actual rebuilding of the Holy Temple.

In 1992, Bishop Macedo spent eleven days in jail on accusations of charlatanism. Last year, the Sao Paulo prosecution alleged that Macedo and other senior church clerics embezzled billions of donation dollars and used the money to buy property and cars. Macedo, a proponent of prosperity theology and owner of a $45 million private jet, has denied the charges.

Anonymous said...

“Muslim Indoctrination at Taxpayers’ Expense”
By Donna Garner

I have been wondering how so many Americans (e.g., educators, politicians, etc.) know about the Gulen Movement. Now I know. The University of Houston has the Gulen Institute. Fethullah Gulen is a Muslim imam.

Please go to http://www.guleninstitute.org/ to find out how Gulen has managed to indoctrinate Americans all over this country, many of whom are involved now in Turkish charter schools (e.g., Harmony Science Academies).

A professor friend of mine just sent me her comments regarding the Turkish charter schools:

Just a comment about Turkish Charter Schools - A few of the participants in my summer workshops teach at these charter schools. Three teachers from a charter school in a large metroplex area shared that Turkish and Spanish are taught in their school. They mentioned that those students who study Turkish receive more attention and funding for their language program. This summer the school "managed" to send the students and teachers to Turkey to help them increase their "proficiency" skills. Of course the students who study Spanish were not given a "free" trip to study in Spain!

Under “News” on the U. of H. Gulen Institute website can be found the names of well-known people who have been involved with the Institute: U. S. Congressmen Gene Green, Sheila Jackson Lee, Kofi Annan, Mayor Tom Leppert, Dr. Terri Grier, Texas Railroad Commissioner Elizabeth A. Jones, Bill White, Dr. Akbar S. Ahmed (Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies at American University), and James Baker, to name just a few.

Anonymous said...

I imagine that many of these people help to fund the Turkish charter schools where Islam is the predominant religion. However, charter schools are public schools; and we taxpayers fund charter schools. I personally do not want my tax dollars going to support Muslim schools since we have seen an eruption all around the world of Islam terrorists who have been indoctrinated behind the closed doors of various schools and mosques.

Please watch these YouTubes to see the indoctrination of impressionable Muslim children who are directed to hate Christians and Jews:


Gulen has managed to establish legitimacy through his careful cultivation of many layers of society. Tolerance has led to acceptance, but my concern is whether this acceptance in many cases has led to radicalization and then to “homegrown terrorism.”

After all, it is Muslim terrorists who committed the atrocities of 9/11 -- not Christians or Jews.

I believe it is no coincidence that as the Gulen Movement has grown stronger in Turkey, Turkey has grown more militant toward the United States.
Turkey used to take a rather centrist position toward us. That has changed. We need to remember the recent Muslim aggression shown during the Gaza flotilla and that Turkey was one of two countries in the United Nations to vote recently against the United States’ stringent boycott of Iran.

I also do not think it is a coincidence that so many of the militant Muslims have lived and are living in the United States, including Gulen who lives in Pennsylvania right now. They study our culture up-close-and-personal. They figure out our weaknesses as a culture; and in many cases, they are using our openness and Constitutional freedoms against us. The more I learn about the Gulen Movement, the more I believe this is a method to take control of our country from within.

Anonymous said...

From the University of Houston, Gulen Institute website:

The Gülen Institute was established in October 2007 as a non-profit organization and a joint initiative of the University of Houston Graduate College of Social Work and the Institute of Interfaith Dialog.

The perspectives of the institute are inspired by the life and works of the distinguished contemporary scholar and civic leader Fethullah Gülen. Visit Fethullah Gulen Forum for updates on Fethullah Gulen and Gulen Movement.

Donna Garner Wgarner1@hot.rr.com

Sorry for using so much space, but I couldn't find the story on the web yet. If you do a search on Harmony Schools, you'll see can see where they are located.

Another search will show other Muslim charter schools in operation here in the US.
For instance:


Anonymous said...

Leana shared the following information on the topic.


Objectives of charter schools with Turkish ties questioned

They have generic, forward-sounding names like Horizon Science Academy, Pioneer Charter School of Science and Beehive Science & Technology Academy.

Quietly established over the past decade by a loosely affiliated group of Turkish-American educators, these 100 or so publicly funded charter schools in 25 states are often among the top-performing public schools in their towns.

The schools educate as many as 35,000 students — taken together they'd make up the largest charter school network in the USA — and have imported thousands of Turkish educators over the past decade.

But the success of the schools at times has been clouded by nagging questions about what ties the schools may have to a reclusive Muslim leader in his late 60s living in exile in rural Pennsylvania.

Described by turns as a moderate Turkish nationalist, a peacemaker and "contemporary Islam's Billy Graham," Fethullah Gülen has long pushed for Islam to occupy a more central role in Turkish society. Followers of the so-called Gülen Movement operate an "education, media and business network" in more than 100 countries, says University of Oregon sociologist Joshua Hendrick.

more at the link


Anonymous said...

Constance, you are losing your credibility with your constant focus on Solana.

Read this please and hopefully Susanna and JD will also weigh in.

You're running after the wrong dark horse.


Eric Hall said...

At www.oldthinkernews.com is an interesting article
entitled "The Age of Treason: 1958 Book Exposes Chemical Attack on Humanity", by Daniel Taylor,
August 19, 2010. Yes the number one priority of the powers that be is the reduction of the earth's population. I hope JD sees this. The culling of the masses is nothing more than survival of the fittest in their view. And it makes the excuse for a little war now and then and a convenient enemy presented as the threat to incite the population to run off to do their patriotic duty or be in fear to be more easily manipulated by these powers that be and serve as a diversion from this underlying aim in almost everything they do. The shortened link is here:
Essentially, the real threat is nothing less than pure evil, and they are seeking to destroy humanity as willing vassals of the "god of this world", i.e., Satan,
whom they refer to as Lucifer.

Anonymous said...

"In one case, the Ohio-based Horizon Science Academy of Springfield in 2005 signed a five-year building lease with the parent organization of Chicago's Niagara Foundation, which promotes Gülen's philosophy of "peace, mutual respect, the culture of coexistence." Gülen is the foundation's honorary president. In many cases, charter school board members also serve as dialogue group leaders."

So, what's this Chicago's Niagara Foundation?

So who are they honoring at a dinner?
Dirk Ficca of the Council for the Parliament of World Religions

Also check out their BOD and their Advisory Board.

I guess it all depends on whether or not you trust the Muslim community.


Anonymous said...

What to do with oil money? There was a song that went
"When I need a friend I buy one
That's the most dependable way
Furthermore they fawn on me
flatter me, generally brighten my day."


JD said...

Anon 9:43,

For what it is worth, I don't think O is the right guy either, though I believe he has a role to play. Also for what it is worth, I wouldn't take my eye completely off Solana either, not that I think he is the guy, but know that his hands are firmly in the game, so to speak. I have found that through expanding research Javier has his hands in ALL of the elements, whether it be social, economic, political, etc. I have come to a position that while I don't know where he will fall on the hierarchal ladder (much like O and the Clintons), I am pretty certain his name will be around for some time.

JD said...


Thanks for bringing a piece directly to my attention, though I am not sure if I am the right person to bring it to. I know enough to understand in many ways how the human body is being messed up through massive manipulation in foods, water, drugs, etc. I even understand a bit about how things are being done within our environment that are changing varying elements of day to day life.

BPA however is something I am not as read up on, but know enough to know concentrations are not good. Any synthetic hormone when introduced to a healthy body has adverse effects. In men, infertility becomes a issue, as well as varying cancers when the hormone is a form of estrogen. In women, varying cancers become a issue, early development, leading to unstable reproductive systems are also problems that can be seen as well. Beyond that, I would need to look a little deeper at BPA and studies done on it.

In this light this type of saturation within a population is not surprising. The goal is depopulation, and all one needs to do is look at the growth numbers in comparison to the number of people on the planet to see that something is happening. A interesting topic none the less. I would be interested to see what else you or others may know on the subject.

Anonymous said...

Susanna provided this link to the charter school story:

Supposedly things are out in the open regarding schools,but Gulen wrote:
" * Fetullah Gulen’s directive about “Keeping Secrets”:

“…The details of many important affairs can be protected only if they are kept secret. Often enough, when the involved parties do not keep certain matters secret, no progress is achieved. In addition, serious risks might confront those who are involved, particularly if the matter concerns delicate issues of national life and its continuation.

“If a state cannot protect its secrets from its enemies, it cannot develop. If an army reveals its strategy to its antagonists, it cannot attain victory. If key workers are won over by the competitors, their employers cannot succeed.

“Explain what you must, but never give away all of your secrets. Those who freely publicize the secrets of their hearts drag themselves and their nation toward an inevitable downfall.”

With the emphasis on science and math, is it a long term plan to place followers in high positions that require math or science?


Anonymous said...

The more I read about the charter schools the worse it seems.

Does terrorism help Gülen’s Muslim missionaries? A first class revolution from the bottom up

In May 2010 media outlets and blogs spots across the Internet discussed Bill Gates’ Ten million dollar donation to the Gulen Movement’s publically funded charter schools in Texas whose agenda is to spread his version of Islam. ......

Why does America support Gülen’s missionaries in Central Asia and around the globe and even in the US? After the collapse of the Soviet Union the balance of power in the world changed, and more than 15 countries got their independence from the Soviet Union. There was a gap in power in the region seeking to be filled; additionally, most of these newly independent countries such as Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and Turkmenistan were rich with the underground resources of oil, gas, gold, and other materials. However, a void for religion developed as well, so there was a competition among an Iranian brand of Islam, a Saudi Arabian version of Islam, and Gülen’s missionaries to fill the void. The US government gave its support to Gülen, because it mistakenly believed that Gülen‘s missionaries were less harmful compared to the Iranian Islamic movement Hezbollah, Saudi‘s brand of Islam Wahhbism, or other fundamentalist groups. The US thought that Gülen’s movement could be managed in the right way by using it to suit America’s purposes. Because many naively believe that Gülen’s preaches nonviolence and dialogue between the western and Muslim worlds, they let their guard down and fail to see behind his proclaimed agenda. They fail to understand that he is incrementally moving

Much more at this link.


Anonymous said...

Getting back to the schools.

Gülen's Education Network

The core of Gülen's network is his educational institutions. His school network is impressive. Nurettin Veren, Gülen's right-hand man for thirty-five years, estimated that some 75 percent of Turkey's two million preparatory school students are enrolled in Gülen institutions.[12] He controls thousands of top-tier secondary schools, colleges, and student dormitories throughout Turkey, as well as private universities, the largest being Fatih University in Istanbul. Outside Turkey, his movement runs hundreds of secondary schools and dozens of universities in 110 countries worldwide. Gülen's aim is not altruistic: His followers target youth in the eighth through twelfth grades, mentor and indoctrinate them in the ışıkevi, educate them in the Fethullah schools, and prepare them for future careers in legal, political, and educational professions in order to create the ruling classes of the future Islamist, Turkish state. Taking their orders from Fethullah Gülen, wealthy followers continue to open schools and ışıkevi in what Sabah columnist Emre Aköz called "the education jihad."[13]

The overt network of schools is only one part of a larger strategy. In a 2006 interview, Veren said, "These schools are like shop windows. Recruitment and Islamization activities are carried out through night classes ... Children whom we educated in Turkey are now in the highest positions. There are governors, judges, military officers. There are ministers in the government. They consult Gülen before doing anything."[14]

On another link:
"Not only does Gülen oversee a worldwide network of schools, but his estimated budget of 25 billion dollars also funds businesses, foundations and media outlets. In a 1999 sermon on Turkish television, Gülen described stealth jihad:"

Other links suggest a herioin empire.

On another link:
"Gülen movement an inspiration for all, says Obama’s Muslim advisor Mogahed
US President Barack Obama’s Muslim advisor Dalia Mogahed has said the Gülen movement is a model and inspiration for all those working for the good of the society."

So while we argue back and forth about the Ground Zero mosque, something much more important is going on under our noses.


Anonymous said...

August 19, 2010
Jim Wallis and Sojourners: Clients of George Soros
Posted by Bill Anderson on August 19, 2010 11:39 AM

Marvin Olasky has a fascinating piece on how George Soros — hardly a friend of Christianity — gave Jim Wallis and Sojourners $200,000 in 2004, and some smaller grants since then. What made it so interesting was Wallis’s response when asked about the grant during a very friendly interview:

It’s not hyperbole or overstatement to say that Glenn Beck lies for a living. I’m sad to see Marvin Olasky doing the same thing. No, we don’t receive money from Soros. Given the financial crisis of nonprofits, maybe Marvin should call Soros and ask him to send us money.

So, no, we don’t receive money from George Soros. Our books are totally open, always have been. Our money comes from Christians who support us and who read Sojourners.

Even more interesting was that the pages that had documented the $200K grant suddenly disappeared from the web. However, Olasky and others have done a lot of digging and found all of the relevant grants.

So, we have Jim Wallis, who clearly had to have been aware of receiving such a large grant, accusing Marvin Olasky of “lying for a living,” when, in fact, it was Wallis who was lying. No doubt, he was lying in the “name of the people.”

Anonymous said...

August 19, 2010
Sunglasses, Anyone?
Posted by stephanie.murphy on August 19, 2010 06:43 PM

A friend shared this article from Gizmodo with me: The End of Privacy. In an appallingly Big Brotherly move, the government of Leon, Mexico has installed iris scanners in several public locations. The scanners, made by a US-based biometrics firm, can recognize dozens of people per minute by scanning their irises, and track those people as they move around the city. ”Criminals” will be subject to compulsory registration in their database; for everyone else it’s supposedly voluntary (for now).
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Anonymous said...

I don't believe it is "J" or "O",
we are in the time of the ten kings, power is consolidating to be handed to 10 kings, then they in turn hand it over to 1 person.

to think Constance and others on here like J.D. are still harping on "J" to be the "A" is telling, he has already retired, he is really really old and decrepit looking, the "A" will be a man of style and grace, someone whom the role of world leader will look like a tailored fit.
Solana is not that man Obama is not that man. The pics you used to compare Maitreya and Solana, there are a billion men who look similar, you are of the ilk whom judge paternity by baby pics and not D.N.A.

Anonymous said...

Link posted on Drudge this morning: DoJ Seeks 'Medicine Man'; Skills Req'd - Sacred Pipe, Sweat Lodge, Smudging

The DOJ has posted a job description which assumes there is something called "A NATIVE AMERICAN RELIGION", a totally erroneous (racist) assumption. There is no one native American religion! Granted, the indigenous (First Nations) inmate population in Duluth is likely majority Dakota, Lakota, or Ojibway (Chippewa), but in trying to do something positive under the banner of multiculturalism our government has reached a new low by likely granting a platform for a pretender. This job description is a laundry list for a New Age shaman.

I'd like to sit in on this job interview!




Hoka hey!


Anonymous said...

Dorothy, I agree that Islam is of the Devil & it breeds danger & hatred, especially for and towards Jews and Christians. However, are you implying that you've fallen for the line that 19 guys with box-cutters carried out 9/11?

If so, I most emphatically do not agree with you. It is pointless to provide evidence to support my case, for there is mountains of it easy to hand. You know that.

There is, however, none for the 'official' Government position.

Having said all that, I do find your Gulen article, links, and his Obama affiliation to be very interesting and informative.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 10:45,
Over a year ago Hizb ut-tahrir held a conference in Oak Lawn, IL. I went to picket that event and then learned that one could go inside, so I did. I always meant to write it up,but didn't get around to it.

What I saw were very steely-eyed, goal oriented individuals with a thin veneer of charming politeness. These were Muslims and their goal was the takeover of the US and the spread of Islam.

Supposedly the Gulen network people are different which is why the American government supports their activity.

After reading the reports at the links I gave as well as others, I am bluntly saying that despite the New Age veneer, they are no different. They are a huge international covert network no less dangerous than the Muslim Brotherhood and Hizb-ut-tahrir who they are supposedly to replace.

We here in the US have lost our drive and purpose. We have no direction. Our culture has been cut up into little pieces, each running in their own direction like dandelion feathers. Unless we recognize that there is an enemy working from within, we are lost.


Anonymous said...

To JD (12:19 AM):

I definitely agree with you.

Also, regarding your statement concerning Javier Solana:

". . . while I don't know where he will fall on the hierarchal ladder (much like O and the Clintons), I am pretty certain his name will be around for some time."

Here is a segment of that interview with Solana, which DT Morris III provided a couple of days ago, on the following link:


While in one breath, Javier Solana claims "they put me on (the list) as the Antichrist, but I'm not sure why"...he clearly has an idea of his own importance (place in the world) when he states the following:

Interviewer: "What a phone book you will have. Which is the most precious number?"

JS: "Mine, because I have to agree to give it away"

Interviewer: "Obama, Putin?"

JS: "They know my phone number and I do not have to have theirs" (laughs).

Therefore, there has to be a reason why Javier Solana thinks, believes, knows that he is more important than the leaders of either the U.S. or Russia!!!

Anonymous said...

Dear Dorothy,

I am the Anon 10:45 am poster. Thank you for your response, which I am in full agreement with.

One only has to look inside the kabah to see further evidence of Islam's pagan roots, despite its protests of being 'Abrahamic'. Notice the blazing sun on the gold door inside the kabah? [Just after 45 seconds into the video]



Then, there is the kissing [a form of giving worship to, despite their denials] of a meteor, representing the occult feminine.

The Truth behind The Black Stone, Allah, Gabriel & Muhammad.


[Blackstone] Why they kiss it


We then see the crescent moon as their symbol.

I could go on but I've made my point.


thanks for your points. I believe if Wahaabis could've carried out 9/11 on their own, they would've. I believe, however, something much more sinisterly treasonous happened on that sad day.

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:45 am again,

Some of you may have heard of the muslim movie, ' The Arrivals ' which aims to address points on the NAM & NWO. The movie, however, is deliberately flawed, and fails to redress the lies spouted by the Zeitgeist mob about Christianity and its origins.

The truth, however, Biblical Christianity & Biblical Judaism do not originate from the pagan demonic so-called ancient mystery religions, unlike Islam which does, despite its attempt at borrowing bits here & there so as to disguise its origins!

The following two videos are by Chris White, and are direct, quick, and informative, robustly debunking the Muslim cherry-picked movie, 'The Arrivals'.

The Arrivals & The Wake Up Project DEBUNKED


Clairification on The Arrivals and WUP DEBUNKED


Anonymous said...

Here's a shorter link to

Clarification on The Arrivals and WUP DEBUNKED


Anonymous said...

A Muslim Man's AMAZING Testimony about Jesus (1 of 2)


A Muslim Man's AMAZING Testimony about Jesus (2 of 2)


Anonymous said...

Personally I think President Obama (and Javier Solana) are forerunners to the AC, helping set the stage as it were, but what do people around here make of the "rumour" that Barack Obama's name means "lightning" and "from the heights" respectively, in Aramaic, the language Jesus spoke? Thanks for your thoughtful responses.

Eric Hall said...

JD, You might find this blog interesting that is entitled,
"Dissecting The New Age," by Matthew D. Jarvie at

JD said...

Anon 7:17,

Did you even read my post on the subject? I clearly stated that while I thought Solana not to be the man, that it was important to still keep your eyes on him. Yes Javier retired from one job, but he picked up 5 others that are equally important for other reasons. You do realize that he is now part of the Center for Humanitarian Dialogue, a peace brokering group within the United Nations. Or that he has begun working with several groups within the UN Economic and Social Council, working to forge the new economic model into existence?

I never stated I thought he was the guy either. I thought he was someone worth keeping an eye on, and he still is. In the same sense that I continue to keep tabs on what Bill Clinton is doing, what Al Gore is doing, what the Rockefeller's are doing, what Bill Gates is doing, etc. Yes some people have in the past proclaimed Solana to be the guy, for me it was always about what he was doing, the structures he was building, his family ties into Theosophy and the emerging power structure which his hands are still in.

If you want to call me out on something, fine. I can stick my foot in my mouth well enough on my own though without someone attributing something to me incorrectly.

JD said...

Anon 12:29,

Glad you understood the context in which I was talking. While I think Javier was placed into his position within the EU to set up certain elements for global governance, which he did remarkably well, I believe his current roles are still doing similar kinds of prep work. The Solana/Madriaga family have almost all been in positions where the ideals and The Plan have been in focus.

For this is one reason that I don't think Javier is just another political pawn. I think he, like Obama, knows his role and what the end result should look like. He prepped Europe to the extent that he could from his foreign policy position, now he is changing the economic and social landscape in preparation for the Phoenix Economic System. (Yes that actually is the name it is being referred to as) I think it is in this sense that he was speaking of himself.

Anonymous said...

Considering Solana is only 1 1/2 years older than Constance, I don't think she would like to hear you call somebody that age "old and decrepit" especially when his grandfather/uncle/distant cousin (whatever!) lived into his 90's and was active until the end!

Anonymous said...

yes OLD and DECREPIT ... wow you hippies are blind to nature ... lol

I am a former nurse, there isn't a THING you can educate me about the body ... I worked with the elderly, they aged, and stunk as their bodies literally rotted off, what you going to refute me on this one J.D? lol

I have also been witness to 70 year old people whom got angry when they were referred to as elderly...

your orientation is off, what day/month/year is it? who is the president in office now?
what planet are you on?

I know, planet yes man? or planet brown nose?

I am getting old and graying as I write this post ...

some ppl need a facts of life lecture that does not stop at the reproductive years .....

Anonymous said...

the 60's brought us the "peter pan" generation

Anonymous said...

also google

entropy and the second law of thermodynamics

JD said...

Anon 8:55,

I have nothing to refute you on, your disdain for the elderly came through quite clear on your own.

JD said...


Thanks for the link. The writer appears to have been busy. I will dig through more of the information presented to see what I might find relevant. It's clear straight off that the writer doesn't care for Alex Jones or Infowars.

Anonymous said...

Jesus was mature enough at 33 to be the Messiah, but the antichrist would need considerably more polishing requiring many more years!

Anonymous said...

From the Drudge Report (08/21/10):



JD said...

Scientists Confirm Giant Underwater Oil Plume

Is the Gulf getting cleaner? Or does oil there pose a long-term hazard? It seems to depend mostly on whom you ask.

Scientists have discovered an oil plume at least 22 miles long, 3,000 feet deep in the Gulf of Mexico -- suggesting that the tens of millions of gallons of oil that leaked from a broken BP well could persist far longer than expected


So much for the oil simply having vanished.

Anonymous said...

From the Drudge Report and CNN:

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape, molestation in Sweden...


Anonymous said...


The other day, while changing channels, I just happened to catch a very angry James Carvill being interviewed on CNN about the story that the oil has 'vanished' from the Gulf of Mexico. (He and his wife, Mary Matalin moved out of Washington, D.C. a few years ago, and now make their home in New Orleans.)

He was challenging our government and yelling, "Prove it! What's the matter? Are you afraid you might come down here and find something?"

He said that the people living along the Louisiana Gulf Coast are still seeing plenty of oil in the water, and they know the truth - that it has NOT vanished.

JD said...

Anon 2:22

Though sometimes I think it's slanted, I have to say that when Carvill speaks I think you are getting his honest opinion. Which I respect even if I don't agree with him, which I can't say for all media commentators.

As a former Florida Gulf Coast resident with many friends and family in the area, this whole situation has had me greatly concerned. The planet is designed to handle oil leaks, even massive ones. In my eyes the solutions people come up with are usually what causes the most damage. This discovery will probably lead to more concentrated dispersant being used, in a far denser area. Nalco must still have a surplus.

Anonymous said...

anony 7:17 am-

I think you have it right there, we are moving into the time of 10 kings. The coming world war will play more significance in the handing over. We are watching now pieces being into place and the time for significant armed conflict is coming. It is only then the true turning over to 10 kings and perhaps even the establishment of the Pheoniz economic system will fully take place. Solona, Obama, and so on are all players setting structure in my opinion.

Unknown said...

The Phoenix Economy. Makes me think of Revelation 17:8, "The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, now is not, and yet will come."

JD said...

If any one wants to take a peek at what is transpiring with the Phoenix, take a look at this report from Volans. It contains a outline of some of the ideals, as well as a list of 50 businesses Volans and their partners recognize as bringing the new economy forth from the ashes. Volans worked with the Skoll Foundation, UN, and many other groups to pull this together. The first 50 businesses include names many are familiar with, and some you may only know from my articles containing the research Susanna and I have been doing.


If anyone is interested I may put more up on my blog as a preview to my next article.

Anonymous said...

Hind sight is 20/20. I dug this article up. I remember this article when it was such big news, but didn't realize until now this is the fulfillment:


God Bless!

wickus said...

Check this out. Solana is going to be involved in the upcoming peace process.



Anonymous said...

EU, US put hope in relaunch of Middle East talks...

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - The Quartet is gearing up to formally invite Israeli and Palestinian leaders for face-to-face peace talks for the first time in one and a half years.

The meeting is to be hosted by US President Barack Obama in Washington on 2 September and to aim for an outcome within one year, EUobserver has learned.

Israeli and Palestinian diplomats have agreed in principle to accept the invitation. But the final Quartet communique - expected later on Friday (20 August) - could still cause upset by, for example, laying down pro-Palestinian pre-conditions, such as a moratorium on Israeli settlement building.

"There are divergences among the Quartet powers on this issue [the EU, Russia, the UN and the US]," one contact close to the process said.

The official aim of the Quartet is to help create a viable Palestinian state alongside Israel, with a negotiated solution on the status of Jerusalem.

One major problem is the building of Israeli settlements on occupied Palestinian land, with an Israeli peace activist and Jerusalem city councillor, Meir Margalit, telling this website in a pervious interview that it would cause "civil war" inside Israel if it tried to pull the settlers out.

Another problem is the Palestinian Authority's split with Hamas, a militant Palestinian resistance group listed as terrorists by the EU and US, which controls the Gaza strip.

Anonymous said...

(Continued . . .)

A Hamas spokesman, Ghazi Hamad, told EUobserver by phone from Gaza that German, Greek, Italian, Russian and Spanish MPs and officials have in recent meetings explored ways to involve the group in the peace process.

Hamas refuses to recognise the right of Israel to exist or to renounce violent resistance, however.

"Without co-ordination between Hamas and Fatah [the Palestinian Authority] we will achieve nothing," he said. "To start peace negotiations when you do not have a real resistance is nothing. And a resistance without a political umbrella is nothing. We have to build a new strategy to mix political action and resistance."

Israel says Hamas cannot be included in high-level talks on its current terms.

"How can you ask to be part of the peace process when you are not willing to give up violence, to give up terrorism? When you're not even willing to say that you give up violence," an Israeli diplomat said.


"Guppy" Honaker said...

Dear Ms. Cumbey, Thank heavens for your blog. I hope more people read it! This "New Age Movement" is simply old stuff in fancy new wrappings. ("EST," "The Secret" and the such is garbage that people seem to flock to like dumb sheep.) The danger is when one person - or small group - control the minds of so many.
- David

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Anonymous said...

I've posted information on the Gulen movement which didn't seem to attract much attention. In the past I've said that all of the Muslim community was not part of the terrorist community, and I still believe that. I've been doing more research on the Gulen network and while doing that I came across the following website with its statistics.

What happens to those who think differently in Muslim controlled countries?

Yes, it can happen here.


Marko said...

I tend to lean toward the idea that we are in the "ten nation period" of time as well, as Anon 7:17 said (on whatever day it was.... I wish we had date stamps on the posts here instead of just time stamps! It would make it easier to follow people's postings and fit them in with the news of what's going on in the world, etc, etc.)

Those ten nations are consolidating their power (and I don't think they are European nations) and in my opinion, they will take out America (and possibly other Western powers too, but if not, at least America), and then hand over power to someone at a later date. One of these ten nations, I believe, is Russia. I can easily see a 10-nation group of Eastern powers attacking the US in a first-strike, removing us from the world scene as a superpower, so they can then do what they want.

The whole "weather-mod as a military weapon" using HAARP-like technology, can be and most likely has been used by RUSSIA to destabilize our society. They are using EVERY MEASURE AT THEIR DISPOSAL to create an atmosphere of destabilization and unrest, one that is ripe for revolution. (And this includes influencing far-right and populist groups, like the Tea Parties. If you think Russian agents are not involved at all with the Tea Parties, then you don't understand Russian strategy.)

This is the Russian plan for destroying America, and has been for decades - destabilization, then attack when we are weak and disoriented. (First thing on their agenda was deception, making us think that they were no longer an enemy. They succeeded quite well in that regard.)

They are arming Iran and helping them to go nuclear, so that we will be pulled into a war involving Israel, Iran, and who knows who else. (Not Russia, at least, not in that theater of warfare.) When our collective heads are spinning so fast from the things we are involved in overseas, as well as internal chaos, they will pick the opportune time, and strike, probably along with China and N. Korea and a few others.

Look for nukes going off in one or more of our cities as one of the last events to precede such an attack. We will blame Al Qaeda, or Middle-Eastern terrorists, but it will be Russian spetsnaz (using terrorists by proxy) who will have been behind the attacks.

It will be sometime after this that the AC will come on the scene, as well as the world religion, etc.

That's how I see things anyway.

Anonymous said...

one significant even that has not occurred and is clearly being moved in the direction of is the "Gog, magog" war. Turkey, Libia, Russia, and Iran and becoming closer and closer allies. This I believe will precipitate the full establishment of the 10 kings. We are well into the setting up the structure.

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gulen harmony schools said...

It is not "anti-christ" as what they say. Islam is just another way of life that everyone should respect. Gulen or charter schools have adapted some of their teachings from Islam and wisdoms from Gulen but that doesn't mean that they are anti-christ.

Constance Cumbey said...

Re Church of the Nazarene

Yes, Christians are much more likely to be taken in by Professors such as Dr. Dwayne Little and Dr. Karl Giberson than by Islamic teachings. A parent will likely send them to the schools where these professors are employed thinking them to be safe and their faith encouraged

A little bit about truth in labeling!


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