Monday, March 16, 2009

E-M-E-R-G-I-N-G ???


JAVIER SOLANA has spoken: "EU WARNS ISRAEL, TWO-STATE SOLUTION IS A MUST. So there! If Israel wants its European Neighbourhood Policy benefits to continue through and beyond 2010, I suspect they'd better heed the man's word. This piece is 21 minutes old as of the time I started composing this blog piece.
Here is what Voice of America has on line:

"The European Union says its relations with Israel will depend on the Jewish state's commitment to a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. . . ."

I wonder what Javier Solana thinks of Karen Armstrong's newest Bill Moyers aired pronouncement that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are ALL GUILTY of idolatry for believing in one God and not validating the religious beliefs of the world's polytheists?

"The three monotheisms – Judaism, Christianity and Islam – have a besetting tendency: that is idolatry, taking a human idea of God, a human doctrine, and making it absolute, putting it in the place of God. "

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EU threatens boycott of 'Durban II'Mar. 16, 2009Associated Press, THE JERUSALEM POST

The European Union [i.e., Javier Solana, head of its CFSP] said Monday it could boycott a UN conference on racism next month unless Muslim nations end attempts to strongly criticize Israel in the meeting's final document. Czech Foreign Minister Karel Schwarzenberg, whose country holds the EU presidency, said EU nations were "very skeptical" over the direction of negotiations on a declaration being drafted for the so-called Durban II conference. He adds the 27-nation bloc will attempt to push for changes but "there is a strong call to withdraw" if they are not successful. Italy's Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said his country would not attend the April 20-25 meeting in Geneva unless "radical changes" were made to the draft text, which includes what he has called "aggressive and anti-Semitic statements." United States, Canada and Israel have also said they fear the UN talks will be marred by attempts to attack Israel and shield Islamic countries from criticism over their records. Washington has imposed conditions similar to EU nations' and Israel and Canada have already announced they will boycott. German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier warned the Geneva meeting "might be abused to produce one-sided statements" about the Middle East peace process and European and American policy in the Muslim and Arab world. "I am in favor of canceling participation in the conference, unless the documents are changed substantially within the next hours and days," said Steinmeier. Dutch Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen said a draft backed by the 57-member Organization of the Islamic Conference "limits itself to Israel-bashing, anti-Semitism, limiting freedom of speech and other dubious texts." The Islamic group of countries, many angry over cartoons and films attacking Muslims, has been campaigning for wording that would equate criticism of a religious faith with a violation of human rights. They were also pushing to equate Zionism with racism and banning the possibility of anyone to change his or her religion, Verhagen said. The Geneva talks are meant to review progress in fighting racism since the previous summit in South Africa. That meeting was marred by harsh criticism of Israel and anti-Israel demonstrations at a parallel conference of non-governmental organizations."

See? He's got all his pro-Israel and anti-Israel bases covered! What a guy!

P.S. For the record, here's what I posted to Bill Moyer's Blogspot about Karen Armstong's latest pronouncement "from below."

Well, Karen Armstrong, who has certainly long since shaken free of any and all vows she made as a nun that "We believe in One God, the Father Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth" has certainly turned the definition of idolatry on its head! The "New World Religion" she is certainly working to "emerge" is a very strange one indeed. It appears that in Karen Armstrong and the Alliance of Civilization's New Religious Order, one indeed is allowed to have a 'religion.' One, however, is not allowed to believe it true. One must, in Karen Armstrong's newest universe say "blessed by THY God, rather than 'blessed by MY God." She calls this com-passion"? I call what she proposes nothing less than 'religious rape' of souls. While people must remember that a central monotheist religious concept is "thou shalt not kill," they must also not forget, "thou shalt have no other gods before me." As Karen Armstrong utterly rejects and despises Book of Revelation warnings, obviously she is unmoved by the Scriptural warnings of a time she obviously seeks to advance: FEAR GOD AND GIVE GLORY TO HIM FOR THE HOUR OF HIS JUDGMENT IS COME -- WORSHIP GOD WHO CREATED THE HEAVEN, THE EARTH, THE SEAS AND THE FOUNTAINS OF WATERS." Karen Armstrong would have us worship everything and everybody but our Creator -- and dare to call us uncompassionate if we exercise our conscience in this regard. May God have mercy on her poor apostate soul!



Anonymous said...

typical doublethink, to equate Zionism with racism, but pushing for a ban of anyone changing religions. So the dirty Zionists would be banned from reformation? Pffft.


Anonymous said...

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
3) Let no man deceive you by any means; for that day
shall not come unless it is preceded by a rebellion, and the man of sin be revealed as the son of perdition,
4) Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is
called God or that is reverenced; so that even in the temple of God, he sits as a god, and shows himself as though he were a god.

Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby! said...


A related story I saw over on FP

The European Union urged Prime Minister-designate Binyamin Netanyahu on Sunday to craft a government that embraces the long-standing goal of an independent Palestinian state living side by side with Israel.

The prospect of a new hawkish government, with Israel Beiteinu chairman Avigdor Lieberman as a possible foreign minister, will be seen in Europe as a setback to the Middle East peace process.

"Let me say very clearly that the way the European Union will relate to an [Israeli] government that is not committed to a two-state solution will be very, very different," said Javier Solana, the EU's foreign and security affairs chief.

Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby! said...

G20 finance ministers prepare for IMF reform

"We agreed on the urgent need to increase IMF resources very substantially," the ministers' communiqué released after the meeting said. However, a final decision on the actual figure was deferred to the G20 leaders' meeting on 2 April, possibly in a bid to secure at least one big announcement for that date.

Anonymous said...

Seems alot of the usual muslim rhetoric - but this statement -
"The three monotheisms – Judaism, Christianity and Islam – have a besetting tendency: that is idolatry, taking a human idea of God, a human doctrine, and making it absolute, putting it in the place of God. "

Is just severely twisted logic that I would venture to say many inidividuals would agree with and then another portion of "fence sitters" may take to heart -


Anonymous said...

Things could get a little dicey given the fact that Benjamin Netanyahu ran on a Likud platforem that pledged resistance to the "two-state solution."



March 1, 2009

And just today from Middle East Online...............




Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby! said...

Introducing the Intelligence
Grid©: A collaborative answer
to the new challenges
of Public Security

I found this while looking for a direct link between Schengen Information Systems and smart grid, which has been discussed here lately. What I found here is truly scary. It seems the idea of information integration between the US and EU has not only been thought of, but the Intelligence Grid is the ideal operating system. This report covers the idea of security threats that we are used to seeing as reasons for Schengen. It also covers biometrics and RFID.

Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby! said...

Constance and others,

Take heed as I have yet to read a large portion of this.

This is an online book titled The Police State Road Map

Chapter 1 covers the banking system.
Chapter 2 covers the media, stock market, and military-industrial complex.
Chapter 3 Foreign policy, IMF and World Bank
Chapter 4 communism and Fascism
Chapter 5 Empowering third world countries and the sell off
Chapter 6 Privitization in the west
Chapter7 the economy, open borders, and criminalizing society
Chapter 8 Banning opposition to world government, creating regional govts., world government or World War 3
Chapter 9 The war on terror
Chapter 10 martial law, foreign troops on US soil, gun confiscation.
Chapter 11 integration, mental health laws, and much more
Chapter 12 technology
Chapter 13 the new age religion and banning monotheism
chapter 14 population control

As said I have yet to read most of this, however most of the familiar issues are here. Any and all help here would be appreciated.

Rudi said...

This article is from a spring 2006 issue of The Esoteric Quarterly. The Esoteric Quarterly is a publication of The School for Esoteric Studies, an off-shoot of the original Arcane School, founded by former co-workers of Alice & Foster Bailey. According to the documentation at the site, it was created primarily as an additional discipleship training center to further advance the "Greater Work" .
The article is titled,

"Christianity’s Role in a New World Religion"

by Dr. John Frances Nash, former Editor in Chief, but currently holding the position of Editor Emeritus.
( retired but still writes for the publication)

NOTE: Dr. John Francis Nash is NOT John F. (Forbes) Nash, Jr. the famed American mathematician whose life was the subject of the Hollywood movie, "A Beautiful Life".

Brave souls may download the article from the main site of The Esoteric Quarterly found at this link

VOLUME 2 Number 2, Spring 2006
"Christianity’s Role in a New World Religion"
John Nash

Another way to read the article on line is to go to John Francis Nash's Uriel website. Click on "articles" and scroll down the list to "Christianity’s Role in a New World Religion".

I became aware of John Francis Nash while examining the "Ageless Wisdom for a New Era", a Lucis Trust/Ancient Wisdom inspired website, set up by authors Nancy Seifer and Martin Viewing. Seifer and Viewing are the co-authors of "When the Soul Awakens: The Path to Spiritual Evolution and a New World Era" a 2008 released book based on the ageless wisdom teachings. Endorsements for this book come from all corners of the new age web, but special praises come in particular from well known Ancient Wisdom teachers (see the site) who for years have actively and openly promoted the writings of Alice A. Bailey. Further promotion comes through publications such as, The Beacon,
(Lucis Trust Publication) as well as The Esoteric Quarterly.

The “Christ” of the New World Religion has never been Jesus. The lure of Peace, if we would only Love, Forgive and have Compassion is no more than conditional and temporary manipulation that uses guilt as a mean to pressure religious people into submission. The New World Religion is not by any stretch of the imagination the body of Christ or the Kingdom of God, earthly or otherwise.
The infiltration of “Christiandom” though initiated much earlier, according to the Bailey/DK writings, accelerated after WWll. The introduction of “spiritual” rather than Biblical or Orthodox teachings
by already indoctrinated seminary and Bible school graduates happened gradually. The priests, pastors and teachers were able to blend in successfully for the most part, bringing in the “new” theology with an air of respectability and orthodoxy, obviously necessary, enabling it to escape detection by presumably more astute, Biblically grounded church leaders.
Most of these under-shepherds-to-be were initially of the "hypnotized" variety The older shepherds were for the most part
asleep, forgetting their duty of guarding the flock. Many sheep, not knowing the voice of the Chief Shepherd Jesus from that of an imposter, trust another, many times because they hear the soothing voice of the imposter recite a familiar Bible verse so they follow. True to form, as we have been clearly warned ahead of time in scripture, the tactic used by satan, especially when he is trying to deceive the sheep will use scripture itself. If he had the gall to try this trick with Jesus in the wilderness, you can bet it has been used on the church throughout history. Those familiar with the tenants of Theosophy, Gnosticism, and the Ancient Wisdom Teachings know Bible scripture has always been incorporated into the teachings. Though not the only “sacred text” used The Jewish/Christian Holy Book has served it’s purpose, that being, in my opinion, as a tool to make the New Spirituality/New World Religion acceptable to the masses and in the process, effectively neutralize the few remaining fundamentalist and/or Orthodox Jews and Christians who remain. What about the Muslims???? I’m only guessing, but based on what we see transpiring through the evangelization efforts of the AOC throughout the Christian, Jewish and Muslim communities of the world, the only Muslims who will remain separated will be the “true soldiers of Islam”. This could present an additional problem, not only for the global unity crowd,
but for all non-apostate remaining Christians and Jews who they mince no words about wanting to eliminate.

The article itself, proves to me that although (according to the Bailey writings) the three monotheistic religions and the
Orthodoxy each has historically embraced are a hindrance to the Plan, their current efforts are directed at uniting the Three
Monotheistic Religions rather than “pitting the three monotheistic groups against one another” The goal to "divide and conquer" IMHO has much more to do with the infiltration of the three groups that has occurred over the years, separating the "Orthodox" believers from inclusive theologians and those who will follow. "Doctrine arguing" and disagreements between Christians is sad, but "new age" agenda or not, none of us should be intimidated into silence for the sake of peace, here or anywhere else. If you're not giving in, you're not giving up. You won't be easily drawn into the New World Religion. -Rudi

Anonymous said...


Great response to Karen Armstrong!

Their logic is so evil, I would be terrified if I didn't know God was still on His Throne.

Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!

Anonymous said...

By the way, if I ever have to go to court, I want you on my side!!

Rudi said...

Hi Constance,
Well! We've seen this one coming. I read your outstanding comment over on Bill Moyers blog. Way to go!! By the way, when is the ENP mid-term review for Israel? -Rudi

Yes Jaclyn! I like the way you think! Your input in the previous comments was excellent also. -Rudi

Thanks for the insightful scripture

Thanks JD for the FP heads-up

Rudi said...

Another article from John Francis Nash worth taking a look at is

The Planetary Hierarchy: an Organizational Perspective, with Ivan Perlaki.

Perhaps another peek at the way the way they see their demonic plan unfolding? -Rudi

Anonymous said...

Excellent. That is exactly what I saw in reading the writing of Alice Bailey. Perhaps the only sense in which "pitting religions against each other" could be used toward this end is in a hegelican way, i.e. thesis, antithesis and synthesis. I have witnessed this process being used to create paradigm-shift in the church. The real deception is the false unity which is being promoted by everyone today. This should be quite easy to see with the AoC, the URI, World Council of Churches, World Religious Parliment, the Temple of Understanding, Tony Blair Karen Armstrong, etc, etc,

It is also one of the reason, I won't stop writing, here even if there are people that are upset by what I say. We are watching the apostasy take place before our very eyes, but John said, quite a few years after the death and resurrection of Yeshua:

1John 2:18 Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.

Obviously John, who also wrote the book of Revelations knew the deception that was around in his day.

Paul said the mystery of "torahlessness" was already at work:

2Th. 2:7 For athe mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way.

And what does Peter say?

2Pet. 3:2 that you should remember the words spoken beforehand by the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior spoken by your apostles.

In this letter of 2nd Peter, he is talking about growing in knowledge of the truth of the Scriptures. That's the whole focus of his writing.

I have watched the Scriptures be undermined by many and they do not search God's Word:

2Pet. 3:3-Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His bcoming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.”

There is a whole generation growing up in many congregations that are completely unequipped for the destruction that is coming. The irony is according to this article and what I see in real life, the destruction is coming in part from right inside the walls of many congregations that do not equip their people with knowledge of the truth.

The writing Rudi posted made the exact point that I have been trying to make all along. The problem is not the conflict between different beliefs, but on the contrary, the desire to synthesize these beliefs into one system.. which mysticism will clearly play a role. The ecumenic movement has been paving the way for this for a while. This actually fits perfectly with the idea of Mystery Babylon which the Bible speaks of, which is confusion and mixture rather than something totally new.

Abba is calling a people for Himself:

1Sam. 12:22 “For athe LORD will not abandon His people on account of His great name, because the LORD chas been pleased to make you a people for Himself.

This blessing will come through the seed of Abraham. The covenant with Abraham was to bless all the nations through his seed. Yeshua, was the seed ( singular) who would redeem the nations, but Israel's seed ( plural) was also scattered in the nations. In the great harvest, God will separate the wheat from the tare, but the criteria for being His is holding the testimony of Yeshua and keeping His Commandments.

Yeshua Himself says it here plainly:

Matt. 5:17-19 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.“For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
“Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least ain the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Those who want to annul God's commandments will be the least. Nothing has passed away. Yeshua just filled Torah with His fulness when He lived it out. He filled it up until it is overflowing with meaning in a continuous sense, not in a finite sense that He did this and now we can chuck out His Torah.

Some who hold to the truth may be beheaded.. Perhaps Rudi, this is where Islam fits in, although France used the guillotine too, up until a few short decades ago, so it's not only Muslims who behead people:

Rev. 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and bthey sat on them, and cjudgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

Throughout the centuries there have been people killed for their faith, in Yeshua and in His Word, starting with the Prophets of Tanach and finishing with the apostles, but those who guard the garden where the tree of life will receive their inheritance. Guarding the garden is simply our testimony of Yeshua and His Word. It is one and the same. He is the Word and if we have Him, and HIs Word written on our minds.

So, in summary, those who are my detractors, go ahead and detract because many mockers will come in the last days. We better be discussing Scripture and making sure that we know what we're doing, because there will come a time when sound doctrine will no longer be tolerated:

2Tim. 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,

We are in such a time now. I find it very interesting that Scripture upsets some people on this blog.

I will repeat to all the mockers on the last blog that if you don't know Scripture, you risk to be deceived. Don't count on your priest, rabbi, pastor etc. because they themselves could be deceived. Read God's Word and seek HIm with all of your heart and pray. He will give you wisdom.

James 1:5 But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and bit will be given to him.

Matt. 7:7 Ask, and bit will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

I won't paste the whole Proverb, but those of you who have ears to listen read it:

Prov. 1:22-26 “How long, O naive ones, will you love being simple-minded? And scoffers delight themselves in scoffing And fools hate knowledge?
“Turn to my reproof, Behold, I will pour out my spirit on you; I will make my words known to you. “Because aI called and you refused, I stretched out my hand and no one paid attention; And you neglected all my counsel And did not want my reproof; I will also laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your dread comes,

God says, He will make His Words known to us.. but for those who refuse it, the consequences are serious.

Excellent post Rudi. Thank you for showing how these occultists are thinking about synthesis and how perfectly it fits with what is going on in our day. I hope some on the blog can see it.


Anonymous said...

Check out John Nash's esoteric ideas about money:

Very interesting.

Anonymous said...

Take a careful look at this site and how they intergrate the teachings of Christianity and theosophy:

This may seem far out but then go look at Brian McLaren's website and you can which the paradigm shift in action.

Brian is also integrating things from Catholicism into his teaching, which fits with what Emergent Village is doing:

Richard Bennett a former jesuit-trained Catholic priest explains how this process is taking place among the youth:

There are three parts to the article, all worth reading. My position is slightly different than his but he says a lot of worthwhile things.

As most of you on the blog know, I am a Jew, and as a Jew believe those of us who are going to walk in truth will end up going back to Torah...not to be "under the law" which simply means under the curse that the Torah imposes, but to walk in truth. Yeshua was the Torah who became flesh.

Zech. 8:23 “Thus says the LORD of hosts, ‘In those days ten men from all the 1nations will 2agrasp the 3garment of a Jew, saying, “Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.”’”

This image of 10 men from the nations holding a Jews garment is actually the holding of the tzizit representing God's holiness, the blue tekhelet is about God's justice:

This command was given specifically to Israel, but when the 10 tribes were scattered among the nations, the only one who kept it is the remnant of Judah who still obeys Torah:

Num. 15:38-40 “Speak to the sons of Israel, and tell them that they shall make for themselves atassels on the corners of their garments throughout their generations, and that they shall put on the tassel of each corner a cord of blue. “It shall be a tassel for you 1to look at and aremember all the commandments of the LORD, so as to do them and not 2follow after your own heart and your own eyes, after which you played the harlot, so that you may remember to do all My commandments and abe holy to your God.

The Ten Tribes who are represented by the ten men in Zechariah 8 are the scattered tribes that went into exile in the nations for not obeying Torah and playing the harlot. In the restoration of all things we must go back to Torah, not in a legalistic sense but to understand God's holiness.

We have been given the tekhelet of Yeshua through when we believe in His atonement for our sins, but now do we just do what we want and end up like the Emerging Church, in apostasy, or do we realize what Yeshua said:

Matt. 5:17 ¶ “Do not think that I came to abolish the aLaw or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
Matt. 5:18 “For truly I say to you, auntil heaven and earth pass away, not 1the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Matt. 5:19 “Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches 1others to do the same, shall be called least ain the kingdom of heaven; but whoever 2keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

He DID NOT come to abolish the Torah, but to fill it up to the full measure with meaning..

Yeshua is the Tree of Life in the garden, the Word who became flesh. To know Him, you must know His Torah because He is inseparable from His Word.

This will protect us from the apostasy, and teach us about God's holiness. God is kadosh in the hebrew and we too are called to be kadosh ( set apart).

This is why He gives us clean food, a sacred calendar, not to mention the use of our mouths like gossip and slander, commands about sexual immorality, property laws, etc, etc. We are not supposed to be like the other nations.. we are holy set apart people in Messiah Yeshua. The spirit of antimessiah was already at work in the 1st Century robbing and stealing the teachings of Yeshua and His disciples. Over the centuries it's gotten worse, although there have been times where reform has brought us closer to truth.

Our only protection is to be in Him and have Him in us and that is only through His Word.


Anonymous said...

Rudi 8:42, “for such a time as this.” There is such clarity and insight to your post; it is not anymore complicated than to divide and defeat, infiltrate and dilute. “The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak” will always be the Achilles heel of the new age. To be aware that something isn’t right in the world should cause our hearts to fail and cry out to God for help, but the flesh is always looking for another solution which is no solution at all. "He who the Son sets free is free indeed."

Unknown said...

I skimmed through the article by Nash that you referenced. I took note of this statement:

"Eventually, during the final root-race, what the Tibetan calls "an essential… Triangle" will develop in the planetary center that is humanity. Two points of this triangle will be government and religion, while the third will be world economics and finance."

Reminds me of the three-legged stool.

Anonymous said...

"Reminds me of the three-legged stool."
Reminds me of the Dialectic.

Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby! said...


Israel's membership in the ENP is due for a mid-term review in 2010. If you break it into 3 year 6 months, it would be June-July 2010. Coincidentally this also fits closely with the time frame that Schengen is due to be fully operational. The Intelligence Grid which I posted about has a target date of January 2011, however I have a feeling this may be ready sooner.
I could speculate in depth as to how the next year will unfold, but given all that is happening I don't think it neccesary, as I'm sure most can figure it out.

I am afraid this snare is already set, as much of the system here in the US as well as in the EU is already operational. IBM has made sure of that. This all gives a new ominous feeling to the Microsoft I'm a pc life without walls ads.

Shem1777 said...

Found this yesterday @ Jerry Golden Ministry

Ted Belman: Pick your poison, IsraelPosted by Israel Insider on March 5, 2009 at 7:00pm in Israeli Security
View Discussions
Israel must decide whether to attack Iran or not and whether to accept the Saudi Plan or not. In both cases Israel has to pick her poison.

Israel has already decided to attack Iran with the intention of setting back the nuclear program by a few years. Likud, Kadima and Labour seem to be in agreement.

Such an attack will be very difficult, giving the distance to Iran and the lack of any agreement to traverse anyone’s airspace. Israel originally hoped to get American approval to fly through Iraq’s air space. But now that the US has signed an Agreement with Iraq giving them control of the airspace, this is not an option. But all is not lost. Should Israel violate Iraq’s airspace, Iraq has no means to prevent such incursion. They have no airforce and no missile system to oppose it. I am not aware of any term of the agreement which would obligate the US to act on their behalf.

Israel will have to decide whether to include any nuclear bombs to ensure greater destruction and whether to attack the Revolutionary Guards, the parliament and the home of the Mullahs. They way I see it, in for a penny, in for a pound. In either case the Iranian response will be the same. It would be great if Israel could capture an airport to enable Israel to land troops to be used to finish off certain facilities. I do not know if this is militarily possible. but if it is, Israel is no doubt considering it.

No doubt Israel would also bomb Kharg Island which is Iran’s largest oil loading terminal accounting for most of its oil exports and revenue.

The response will sure result in many Jewish, Israeli and American targets being attacked all over the world. Edwin Black, in his article “The Iran-Israel nuclear endgame is now much closer,” writes:

“The consequences of this confrontation are apocalyptic because Iran’s full partner in this enterprise is Russia. The Russian company Atomstroiexport has provided most if not all of the nuclear material for the 1,000 megawatt Bushehr reactor, along with thousands of technicians to service and operate it.

Following its invasion of Georgia, Moscow forged ahead with final delivery plans for the S-300 advanced air defense system which can track scores of IAF airborne intruders simultaneously, whether low-level drones or high-altitude missiles, and shoot them down. But the S-300, the linchpin of Iran’s defense against Israel, will not be fully operational for several months, creating a narrow window for Israel to act. Indeed, Russia has just announced a pause in missile deliveries for the system in fear that it will accelerate an Israeli response.

Iran, of course, has repeatedly threatened to counter any such attack by closing the Strait of Hormuz, as well as launching missiles against the Ras Tanura Gulf oil terminal and bombarding the indispensable Saudi oil facility at Abqaiq which is responsible for some 65 percent of Saudi production. Any one of these military options, let alone all three, would immediately shut off 40% of all seaborne oil, 18% of global oil, and some 20% of America’s daily consumption.”

Once the attack begins, Israel will be inundated with rockets from Lebanon, Gaza and probably Syria. It will thus use the planes not active in the Iranian attack to devastate these locations. A substantial mobilization is not out of the question as land forces will probably be ordered into Gaza and Lebanon.
World opinion and pressure will be ignored.

Israel will be considered the aggressor and most of the world community will not accept that Israel was acting in self-defense. The hatred of Israel and Jews will know no bounds except that privately many will be pleased.

Such a war will deplete Israel’s munitions and it will be in need of resupply. Will America stand by and refuse to resupply Israel as she has done in the past, notably in the Yom Kippur War. At that time Kissinger withheld supplies in order to make Israel more compliant in the peace process to follow. The same thinking would apply here. To make matters worse, Egypt, with American connivance, might mass troops on its borders if not actually invade.

On the other hand, if Israel declines to preempt and waits to be attacked first as she did in the Yom Kipper War, she will be at a decided disadvantage except in the PR war. If the attack on Israel takes the form of a dirty nuclear bomb or the use of chemical or biology weapons, Israel will suffer enormous losses thereby diminishing her ability to respond to the provocation.

To my mind, Israel must decide how likely such an attack is and act accordingly. It may be that Iran prefers to bleed Israel by a thousand cuts, or should I say hits, rather than invite massive retaliation. Israel chose to endure eight years of sporadic rocket attacks from Gaza as the lesser evil to invading Gaza. Israel could likewise decide if future rocket attacks are endurable..

Concerning the “peace process,” Israel must decide to accept the Saudi Plan or reject it.

Kadima and Labour favour the former, though the last government tried to get the PA to accept a return of 93% of the land and forgo the right of return but there was no takers. Thus only the Saudi Plan with a return to the armistice lines and a “just solution to the refugee problem” will suffice to get a deal. This would involve the removal of over 100,000 Jews from Judea and Samaria.

The Saudi Plan also requires Israel to return the Golan to Syria.

Only after all this transpires will the Arab world discuss what they meant by their offer of “normalization”.

Iran remains an obstacle to such a deal here, too. Its proxy, Hamas, will never agree to a permanent peace with Israel or to recognized borders for Israel. The Quartet is now working to bring Hamas into the PA ostensibly as a junior partner. In reality Hamas will dominate.

The only thing Israel will get from such capitulation is borders which are recognized by the world even if not by Hamas and Iran. Such recognition though isn’t necessarily dependable. The world recognized the borders of Palestine, as it then was, in the Palestine Mandate. Such recognition was soon abandoned. The world also accepted the requirement for “secure” borders in Resolution 242 otherwise known as “defensible borders.” No one but Netanyahu even talks about that now.

But we are not done yet. Israel will be demanding that Palestine be demilitarized. Fat chance. She is currently demanding that Hamas not be allowed to rearm. Hamas has made it clear that it will never give up its right to do so. So it is safe to say that Israel will not be able to keep the West Bank demilitarized. Even if the PA would agree to it, the PA has never kept an agreement to date. So much for the value of a signed piece of paper.

The agreement will provide for a corridor connecting the West Bank with Gaza. Aside from the security risk this represents, it would allow for Gazans to move from Gaza to the West Bank thereby transferring the Gaza radicalism and population density to the West Bank. In addition, perhaps a million refugees from refugee camps in the surrounding countries will return to the new State of Palestine. How can the West Bank with its limited land and water resources sustain such a population? How can such a state be viable? This instability will be used as a tool to further destroy Israel.

Israel will also want the PA to agree that Palestine will not enter into defense treaties with other Arab countries. This they will not agree to.

After all is said and done, what is to stop rockets from raining down on Israel from the West Bank?
Who is to say that the Arabs will ever make peace with Israel? The Muslims are taking over Europe through intimidation made easier by liberalism. In fifty years there may be nothing left of the Europe that we once knew. So why should the Arabs accept any less a fate for Israel?

It is for these reasons that Netanyahu is putting his hopes on economic development as a means to stabilize the West Bank. He is thinking of giving the Palestinians limited sovereignty, otherwise known as autonomy, rather than full sovereignty. But the Palestinians have rejected economic development time and time again. They prefer to eradicate the “occupation” which includes Israel. They will be aided and abetted in this project by Israel’s Arab fifth column.

The Obama administration has accepted the idea of economic development but not as a substitute for diplomatic progress. It is careful to always say it wants a secure Israel to result. But few believe that capitulation by Israel will make it more secure.

Israel could also decide to follow the National Union’s plan to annex Judea and Samaria together with its 1.4 million Arabs. In the expanded Israel, Jews would outnumber Arabs by a ratio of 2:1 Citizenship would be available to these Arabs, over an extended period, say 15 years, giving time for detoxification, subject to certain prerequisites. These include loyalty oaths, knowledge of Hebrew, national service and so on. Of course all terrorists and their huggers would have to be expelled.

Prior to the annexation, Israel would pass a constitution declaring Israel to be a Jewish state. Such constitution would perhaps provide for two houses of government and would require super majorities to pass any changes to fundamental things.

The local governments would be given as much responsibility or autonomy as they can responsibly handle. There would be zero tolerance for incitement. Everyone would be equal before the law. In fact this was what was envisioned by the League of Nations in the Palestinian Mandate passed in 1922 which gave the Palestinians civil and religious right but not political rights.

Very few refugees would be permitted to return to the expanded Israel. Gazans would be left high and dry to fend for themselves.

It would be best if Israel could get American approval to such a plan but that approval is unlikely. So Israel would have to go it alone. Just as she annexed Jerusalem without international approval, she could annex Judea and Samaria. This is simply done by extending Israeli law to these territories in place of occupation law. The word “annexation” need not come up. The “occupation” would then come to an end.

Oslo and the peace process have given the Palestinians hope of destroying Israel and this hope has fuelled the resistance. Kill the hope, you kill the resistance. As Palestinian nationalism dies, the fifth column in Israel will also evaporate. Then Israel can focus on creating a just society.

If Israel chooses this path she will have to contend with an irate world and probably sanctions. But in time things will settle down. As more and more Arabs earn citizenship, the opposition to the annexation will diminish.

As much as Israelis would love to include Judea and Samaria within their borders, they are very reluctant to include another 1.4 million Arabs within her borders. Given their experience with Arabs, now comprising 20% of its population, and the experience of European countries in contending with as little as a 10% Muslim minority, they are understandably very reluctant to contend with a 33% Arab minority. There is much opposition to doing so. In fact Yisrael Beiteinu wants to give land away together with its Arab inhabitants to reduce the 20% Arab minority.

Israel must chose between more land and a higher minority percentage or less land and a lower percentage. In the former case there would be no need to negotiate borders or divide Jerusalem. In the latter case Israel would be enabling a hostile Arab state to be created looming over the Israeli coastline.

In choosing her poison, Israel can only hope that what doesn't kill her makes her stronger.

Anonymous said...

The scripture does not 'upset' some people on this blog. Apparently YOU think YOU are the only one here who has any truth regarding the scriptures and that is what is turning so many people away. What is upsetting, that you can't seem to comprehend, is your filling this NAM information sharing blog with YOUR interpretation of the scriptures. I don't care if you're a Jew, a Protestant, or a Catholic on this blog. MOST of us are here not for YOUR Jewish based scripture interpretation of the information disseminated here! It seems to me that if you are so concerned about people's souls you would get out of your house, out from behind the screen of your computer, and actually DO the things you are preaching the rest of us do...reach the lost that probably live in your neighborhood, shop at your grocery store, and attend your own 'community'!
Again, the people coming to this blog for NAM and World information don't want to be preached to. Go stand on your street corner and preach! At least you'll get a new audience who won't be sick of your OPINIONS regarding the scriptures.
I LOVE God's Word, I don't have a problem reading God's Word! I don't even necessarily disagree completely with some of your's the EXTENT of what you do on a daily basis here that is so annoying it has run people off!
Psalms 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
For once Joyce...BE STILL!

Constance Cumbey said...

If we don't like what Joyce or anybody else is likely to write, we all know how to use "collapse comments." Joyce does contribute extremely worthwhile information on the New Age Movement. I personally wish her commentaries were often shorter. Let's all be kind one to another.


Constance Cumbey said...

To Rudi, 8:42 p.m.

Your post is EXCELLENT. However, the strategy is to infiltrate all three monotheistic religions from within and then to PIT THE REMAINING STUBBORN 'orthodox,' 'fundamentalist', 'traditional' off against each other. It also might be summarized as 'termites from within, wrecking balls from without.'

The very line from the Great Invocation "and may it seal the door where evil dwells" refers to what Alice Bailey/DK called '3 dead and gone religions -- Jews, Christians, Moslems -- that deserved to die and be shut awayin their own separate place. The Appendix to THE RAYS AND THE INITIATIONS explains it in cold blooded detail.


Anonymous said...

Hi everyone,
I have always heard about Benjamin Creme working as a medium for Maitreya when talking in conferences. I heard the accounts of Constance and also so others. Now on you tube you can see the guy in action, he is interviewed by an "independent" east European media, obviously devoted to the New Age plan, if you look at the source.

Anyways here is the video, his face was not shinning as I heard it did in some places he talked before, but you can see him making some weird faces....

Here is the link:

P.S. I do not know if you heard but it turns out that the famous "Star" that everybody saw a couple of weeks ago was Venus... even Maitreya said it was not his announcing star....he keeps saying he is at the door... I think his main problem is God keeping it close for the time being hehehe.

What a bunch of freaks...I tell you Mr. Creme may buy all the air time for his ads on CNN but if he plans to show up at Larry King to do his channeling stuff I do not think people are gonna buy it... which is pretty good.

Anonymous said...

Where is that Appendix of the Rays and Initiations ?
Thank you.

Anonymous said...

As some of you know from reading the previous thread I believe that one needs to have chicken soup in them before they even consider thinking about the New Age movement. The body needs to be provided for very carefully before the mind can operate correctly. Those with an incomplete understanding of how the body operates will be unable to comprehend the dastardly ethics being presented in the New Age movement.

I am here to help you understand the importance of chicken soup. You can always collapse my comments, but you do so at your own peril.

Now I have nothing against people who prefer vegetable soup. They are just misguided and I am here to show how superior chicken soup is.

Here is more information on chicken soup.

From Asia, Rapture in a Bowl
Evan Sung for The New York Times

NO SIMPLE PLEASURE Rosa Michelman tries Minangasli’s soto ayam.

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Published: January 6, 2009

PEOPLE praise chicken soup, especially in these chilly, Kleenex-ridden days, but a bowl of it is usually greeted politely — not rapturously. Purists find pleasure in a clear, golden broth with a few perfect dice of carrot and egg noodles, but the taste? Dull, honestly. Bland, even.
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Recipe: Coconut Curry Chicken Noodle Soup (Curry Mee) (January 7, 2009)
Recipe: Soto Ayam (Indonesian Chicken Soup With Noodles and Aromatics) (January 7, 2009)
Where to Find Curried Noodle Soup (January 9, 2009)
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Sripraphai, a Thai restaurant in Queens, serves kao soy.

Enter, steaming: the rich, spicy chicken noodle soups of Southeast Asia, the love children of Indian curries and Chinese noodle soups. These are chicken noodle soups you want to bathe in: sweet, spicy and fragrant, a happy contrast of hot broth, springy noodles and a madness of garnishes — from just a few rings of scallion to a spiky crown of caramelized shallots, steamed sweet shrimp and whole chilies stuffed with minced pork.

Popular throughout the region — native ground for the ginger, lemon grass, cinnamon, black pepper and turmeric that flavor them — the soups go by many names, including curry laksa, curry mee, la sa ga and khao poon, in Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam and other countries.

The most famous family member is curry laksa, a coconut-creamy one-bowl dish sold at hawker stalls in Malaysia and Singapore. “Curry laksa is like my entire country in one dish,” said Leemei Tan, a London-based telecommunications billing analyst who writes about the food of her native Malaysia at “It’s not Indian. It’s not Chinese. But it has so many things in it, and the mix is so tasty.”

The first hit from any curry noodle soup is visual: steam rising from a gilded broth, dotted with burnt-orange oil, flecked with red from dried chilies and brown from warm spices like cinnamon, cumin, black pepper and coriander seed. The next is olfactory, as the perfumes of ginger, lemon grass, fresh curry leaves, lime leaves and turmeric kick in. And the rest involve inordinately elevated levels of flavor (recipes often call for huge handfuls of curry powder and paste), a riot of textural contrasts and the primal satisfaction of the slurp.

In New York, these soups are easy to find in neighborhoods where Southeast Asians live and work, notably Elmhurst and Woodside in Queens and Chinatown in Manhattan. (Try asking for “curry noodle soup,” a simplified but always understood translation.)

“It’s great for the weather here, but people back there eat it every day, even in the heat,” said Rosa Michelman, a Brooklyn resident of Indonesian background who has traveled to Indonesia often since she was a child. She was catching up with friends last Tuesday at Minangasli, a restaurant in Elmhurst where the chef, Nani Tanzil, makes food from her native Sumatra.

Soto ayam, an Indonesian version of the soup, is a clear herbal broth brightened by fresh turmeric and herbs, with skinny rice noodles buried in the bowl. According to Ms. Michelman, soto ayam is made by home cooks and street vendors alike, with special attention paid to the balance of flavor in the broth (and the quantity of chicken meat in each serving).

“It’s simple but difficult in a way, because you want to keep the chicken flavor and not lose it in those strong herbs,” she said. The dish is served with lime wedges, fried shallots, halved hard-boiled eggs and a scoop of rice for extra substance.

A few blocks away, both Malaysian and Singaporean versions of the soup are served at Taste Good restaurant. The chef, Kok Kiang Thong, has spent years adapting the complex flavors of his native Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to the ingredients here. He supplements standard Indian curry powder with quantities of paprika and turmeric, and adds powdered coconut to his soups to intensify the flavor of canned coconut milk. (In Malaysia, most food markets stock freshly squeezed coconut milk, he said.) Mr. Thong also adds half-and-half to the pot to adjust the broth. Coconut milk has a particular weighty creaminess, called lemak, that cooks appreciate but also treat carefully, because it can make some curries and soups too rich.

Helen Thong, the restaurant’s co-owner and Mr. Thong’s wife, describes the Singaporean and Malaysian versions of curry laksa as completely different — “like New York and New Jersey,” she said.

To an outsider, the main difference appears to be in the toppings and the balance of spice, lemak, sweetness and heat. In both places, hawkers sell the soup morning, noon and night, customizing each bowl with specialties like golden puffs of fried tofu, juicy bean sprouts, tiny eggplants stuffed with fish paste and crisp-fried sheets of tofu skin.

Curry laksa is hugely popular in Australia, especially Sydney, where the pan-Asian culinary influence has turned “let’s go for a laksa” into common post-pub parlance. Curry laksa with crab meat and green tea noodles, a luxurious version of the dish, is on the menu at Double Crown, a new restaurant in the East Village.
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Taste Good serves Singaporean and Malaysian versions of laksa.
Recipe: Coconut Curry Chicken Noodle Soup (Curry Mee) (January 7, 2009)
Recipe: Soto Ayam (Indonesian Chicken Soup With Noodles and Aromatics) (January 7, 2009)
Where to Find Curried Noodle Soup (January 9, 2009)
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Evan Sung for The New York Times

CREAMY Taste Good makes a laksa with a coconut base.
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Evan Sung for The New York Times

INDONESIAN PENICILLIN Minangasli’s soto ayam, with a hard-boiled egg.

“I fell in love with curry laksa in London, and the Australians I’ve worked with are obsessed with it,” said Brad Farmerie, the executive chef, who has traveled in Southeast Asia. “It’s so complex, with that richness and acidity, sweetness and heat, but also very versatile. The coconut curry base is almost like tomato sauce in Italy — you see variations on the theme all around the region.”

The Strait of Malacca, the narrow waterway that separates the Malay peninsula from Sumatra, is the most likely birthplace of curry laksa. (The word “laksa” also applies to another complex soup of the region: a dark, subtly sour fish-based broth called assam laksa.)

There, around Malacca and Kuala Lumpur, local ingredients like cinnamon, ginger, black pepper and coconut were combined with spices from around the world: cumin, star anise, mustard seeds and chilies as the spice trade developed. A large Chinese community grew up, and as that group intermarried with local Malays and Indian immigrants in the 18th century, a highly spiced, complex cuisine arose. Combining Malay, Indian and Chinese influences, it is known as Nyonya cooking. Malaysia claims curry laksa as a national dish; it is especially popular for breakfast in Kuala Lumpur.

“Curry laksa is the ultimate Nyonya dish,” Ms. Tan said.

Curry laksa belongs to a particular culture, but curry noodle soups are found all over Southeast Asia, the vast sweep of islands and peninsulas that leads northwest from the Indian Ocean to the South China Sea. Or in other words, from curry (India) to noodles (China).

While the word “curry” is strongly associated with India, the entire region cooks similarly spiced, slow-cooked dishes that go by that name. Chicken curry is a staple dish in Myanmar and in Malacca, just as it is Mumbai. The hallmark of curry is the blending of different spices — warm and earthy, fiery and herbal — with liquid into a savory, unified sauce.

Depending on the region, the noodles used in curry noodle soup can be thin or thick, flat or round, made of rice, wheat or mung bean flour. The broth can be a complex, layered stock built for the soup, or as simple as a scoop of chicken-potato curry from the pot simmering at one end of the stove, thinned with hot broth right in the bowl. In Japan, kare udon, with fat wheat noodles and thick spicy-sweet soup, is popular.

In Thailand, a curried noodle soup called kao soy (also khao soi) is the signature dish of the northern city Chiang Mai, where entire restaurants are devoted to its production. Kao soy is rarely spotted in New York, but can be found at Sripraphai, a Thai restaurant in Woodside known for its exuberantly fiery, authentically spiced food. (Excellent versions are also served at Rhong-Tiam in Greenwich Village and Thai Market on the Upper West Side.)

The spice paste for Sripraphai’s kao soy is one of the restaurant’s standard flavor bases; the kitchen produces 54 different ones. Kao soy is powerfully coconut-flavored and its garnishes are palate knockouts: raw onion, pickled mustard greens, fresh lime juice and roasted chili paste.

“I really think the palate of Americans has changed in the last 10 years,” said Lersak Tipmanee, whose mother, Sripraphai Tipmanee, came to New York from Yala province in southern Thailand and opened the restaurant in 1991. “The love of spice and flavor is really coming out.”

Now do you understand why chicken soup is so important to one, more important than information about the New Age movement.

I will not stop sharing what I know because it is for your own good.

Anonymous said...

Wow, looked at the book JD mentioned and referenced the Ark of Hope. Not sure if talked about here prior to my checking this blog regularly but clearly counterfitting the ark of the covenant. is the site for those who have not seen it. Pure evil.

Anonymous said...

Anon. 2:22

I just like the condensed kind from Campbell's.

Anonymous said...

Anyone having trouble getting to, I emailed Holly, it is like the site never existed through my internet provider...

Sleepless in Seattle

Anonymous said...

Paul: vs. 3 a rebellion?...Supreme court Justice here's case (as well as many other sites.)

I just wonder if Oh's days are numbered by 'law', or only part of the court agree's to hear the case against Oh, and we still can't remove him???

Sleepless in Seattle

Anonymous said...

Hey I just found more stuff that mr Benjamin Creme doing... he says "there are people already against Maitreya working against him..."
Damn right!

There are many interesting videos and stuff...

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Anonymous said...

"The Giving Act"
Or in other words the forced service act. to be voted on Tuesay this week, Kinda rushing it through aren't they, no time to mount a rebuttal?
Please do read it all as it includes elementary education service of your kids, and if necc a requirement for everyone in the family to do service.


Anonymous said...

Perhaps you could interpret with the eye of a lawyer for us?
HR 1388


Anonymous said...
Estimated number of visits for
26,126 visits per day

Does this mean that people who like fulfilled prophecy go there five times a day?

Anonymous said...

for the last link you may have to enter the house bill Number of HR 1388 before the house, then open the HR 1388 bill for contents.

Anonymous said...

Yes, could you please Constance - at least a over view glimpse - I know time is precious.
So, you either sign up for the "civilian corp" or you sign up for the "military corp" - or you may be left outside the system?
Just a guess -


Anonymous said...

Dear Anon 2:22,
I must contradict you, as I'm a firm believer in Beef and Veggie Soup myself.
Can't tell you the region all of the spices come from- and my Mom's version is a little mysterious- but I can testify that it fill's up my tummy, it tastes good, and I take great comfort in it on a cold winter's night.
Hope that I've helped to broaden your culinary tastes.

By His Grace,

Anonymous said...

More on fulfilled prophecy. Interesting that people who visit there don't come here.

Anonymous said...

Beef and vegetable soups are an innovation. You must go back to the roots of the soup story for the best understanding of why no one should try to understand the New Age movement before making the necessary efforts to get their bodies in line. The confusion that can result when the body is not taken care of so that the mind is receptive to the understanding the untruths of the bad New Age movement can result in one accepting the ideas of the New Age movement due to the confusion brought about.

Anonymous said...

You mean well but you are being confused by commercialization of the soup story. This leads to confusion of the mind and keeps you from understanding the underlying story of the bad New Age movement.

Your lack of understanding leads to the idea that all soups are of equal value, a bad thing. I feel sorry for you that you are deliberately being misled.

Constance Cumbey said...

Just checking in -- 1 hour, 39 minutes away from radio time. Please join us in the chatroom or by telephone at 888-747-1968.


Anonymous said...

Dear Anon 6:03,
Unfortunately, my body's been "out of line" since my second c-section.
Although I may not understand the roots of the soup story, there are alot of ROOT veggies in my Beef and Veggie soup. So I'm going to have to stick with my conviction. I thank you for sharing your passion for Chicken Soup, however.


Constance Cumbey said...

The appendix to Alice Bailey's THE RAYS AND THE INITIATIONS is at the end of that book, just before the index, as I recall.


Constance Cumbey said...

You can deliver that chicken soup to my office right now and thanks for the gourmet tips and recipes, not to mention restaurant suggestions -- a pleasant diversion and evreybody needs a good sense of humor to survive this board, not to mention 'the New Age'!


Anonymous said...

Or, better yet - stay away from all of it - from soup to nuts!!!

Constance Cumbey said...

To get to FP, try using my link "Herb Peters" to the right of my blogspot. It's always worked for me -- at least up till now. I'll try again and let everyone know.


Anonymous said...

BTW, I've missed you "Anony" Chicken Soup contributor. So glad to know you're here now and again.

By His Grace,

Constance Cumbey said...

It is interesting not to mention saddening that the visitors to FP are not coming here. This most assuredly would not hve happened when Herb Peters was living. I am fearful that the same "Evangelical" culture of the Prayer Breakfast Network and the Walter Martin CRI crowd might have frightened Holly Pivec, Peter's daughter, a graduate of Biola, off. I noticed that on her revamped site a link was no longer here even though Herb had maintained it. It might be good for some of you to inquire over there -- I hesitate to do it. I also have some fears about the "Discernment Ministries." I have had compelling evidence brought to my attention that there are double agents there who worked both to compile data of who was who among the resisters to the New Order as well as discourage giving me any type of platform. We are indeed in perilous times and this is no surprise, given the prophecy of what the times would be like



Anonymous said...

The Moscow times
Tuesday, 3/17/09

The Kremlin published its priorities Monday for an upcoming meeting of the G20, calling for the creation of a supranational reserve currency to be issued by international institutions as part of a reform of the global financial system.

The International Monetary Fund should investigate the possible creation of a new reserve currency, widening the list of reserve currencies or using its already existing Special Drawing Rights, or SDRs, as a "superreserve currency accepted by the whole of the international community," the Kremlin said in a statement issued on its web site.

The SDR is an international reserve asset, created by the IMF in 1969 to supplement the existing official reserves of member countries.

The Kremlin has persistently criticized the dollar's status as the dominant global reserve currency and has lowered its own dollar holdings in the last few years. Both President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin have repeatedly called for the ruble to be used as a regional reserve currency, although the idea has received little support outside of Russia entire article....


Anonymous said...


Who's going to blink first?

Anonymous said...

Old Testament penalty for blasphemy, adultery, witchcraft, sodomy, etc. was STONING!


ASTEROID FLYBY TONIGHT: Newly-discovered asteroid 2009 FH is flying past Earth tonight only 85,000 km away. That's about twice the altitude of a geosynchronous communications satellite. Advanced amateur astronomers in North America can photograph the 20-meter-wide space rock racing through the constellation Gemini after sunset on March 17th. It should be about as bright as a 14th magnitude star.

Do you think someone is trying to get our attention?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 7:58
Why ask Joyce?

In the article you posted there is the statement
""My position is that it is not fitting to enter the Western Wall area with religious symbols, including a cross," said Rabinovitch in a telephone interview with The Jerusalem Post Monday. "I feel the same way about a Jew putting on a tallit and phylacteries and going into a church."

Messianics do this all of the time and think there is no problem with it. Joyce is a messianic who like to think she remains a Jew even though she left the religion. Maybe the Pople should become a messianic Jew in the world she lives in.

Anonymous said...



Anonymous said...

Smart grid

Sorry for the long post, but I thought it would be better all in one post.

Here is some data on the "smart grid" and the "powers that be" that are pushing this hard. Obama is setting the stage with Carol Browner, GE, Google etc.

I feel this crash of our economy is just an unplugging they caused to force these things through. They may plug the leak back up once the things they want are in place. This is a strategy they always use. We will see what all they want to accomplish this round. It may be the whole deal. We will have to watch and see. If our economy start to rebound, know it was a game to get these things set up.

Carol Browner from Us News & World Report 3/9/09

“We need to make sure that we’re moving electricity in the smartest way and using the most cost-effective electricity at the right time of day. EVENTUALLY, we can get to a SYSTEM where and electric company will be able to HOLD BACK some of the power so that maybe your AIR conditioner WON’T operate at ITS PEAK, you’ll still be able to cool you house, But that’ll be a savings to the consumer”

This means the government does not allow you to have the temperature in you house cooler then they deem ok. They can shut you air conditioner at their discretion. I have been saying this was the capacity now Climate czar Carol Browner is stating it openly. This is kind of control they intend and we are headed there fast. Obama is putting this on the fast track.

Carol Browner Obama Climate czar is connected with one world government organizations: She was part of Commission for Sustainable World Society which a part of the Socialist international party. They are a Global Alliance type of group.

Obama Cliate czar has socialist ties:

List of other members of Commission for a Sustainable World Society.

Tendril Shows Off Smart Meter Solution at Google-GE Panel Discussion

"February 19, 2009 05:55 PM ET
At a recent panel discussion sponsored by Google and GE, experts - among them, Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change Carol Browner - came together to discuss the smart grid and the changing technology it requires. They couldn't have timed it better. The panel began just as President Obama was signing the stimulus bill, which ensured $80 billion in spending on renewable energy and efficiency. Of those funds, $11 billion in grant money will go towards the modernization of our electric grid.”

Tendril Smart Energy for Life
Tendril Unveils Mobile Web Application For Smarter Energy Management:

Information Gathered from the Tendril Residential Energy Ecosystem Platform Now Accessible Anywhere Enabling Consumer Control “On-the-Go”

This is from Tendril website article The Smart Home, Part II (there is other good data on this site.

"Google announced it was launching a new platform called PowerMeter to bring home energy usage to homeowners (see Google Gets Into Home Energy Management).
While Google hasn't made PowerMeter available to the public yet or said which utilities and companies it would work with to get the data it needs, its big step into home energy management has caused waves in the industry.
How the startups seeking to provide in-home energy monitoring software will adapt to Google's entry is yet to be determined. So far, most smart grid companies are praising the search giant for promoting energy monitoring – and noting that they're open to forming partnerships."

One worlder on Obama's team:

“Carol M. Browner - White House coordinator of climate and energy policies.
Member of the Socialist International and leader of the group’s Commission for a Sustainable World Society which calls for “global governance” and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change. This highly influential group is headed by a Bilderberg Group luminary that calls for the implementation of global government.

It really is no surprise that Barack Obama chose this woman to oversee the effort to combat the global warming fantasy. She is a believer in the socialist doctrines behind the whole climate change scam created by the new world socialist order over 12 years ago.

You may remember Carol Browner from her days as President Clinton’s EPA Administrator where she used the EPA to campaign against Republicans. A bipartisan letter from the House Government Reform and Oversight Subcommittee on Regulatory Affairs on March 21, 1995, charged the Environmental Protection Agency and its administrator, Carol M. Browner, with violating the federal Anti-Lobbying Act by faxing unsolicited material opposing the Republican-sponsored regulatory reform package to various corporations and public-interest groups.”

Quote from this link:

“Another component involves persuading individual Americans to change their ways in an attempt to "exalt the concept of responsible citizenship," a key aide says. "People have to become much more conscious about energy use, about where their energy comes from," says Browner, "and I think that many people take seriously the opportunity to do things at home, whether it's to use more efficient light bulbs, to buy more efficient appliances, to add insulation”

“Obama has taken a particular interest in the "smart grid," an ambitious project to digitally update old-fashioned electric wires across the country. Among the advantages, the new system would give homeowners information on how efficiently they are using electricity inside their residences. The smart grid also could send power from residential solar panels, wind turbines, and plug-in electric cars to be fed into the grid, and it would allow homeowners and small businesses to sell power to their neighbors or back to the grid.”

Quote from fox news:

"Carol Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's choice to be his climate czarina, served until last summer as a member of a socialist organization whose mission is to enact progressive government policies, including toward environmental concerns like climate change."

Obama has chosen a One worlder as the climate Czar. Things are moving fast.


Anonymous said...

Dear Mrs. Cumbey,
I was wondering if the second part of the video Discovering the New Age is available to watch anywhere. I have already watched the first part on Google Video, although it is also viewable on youtube.
In this video you say that there will be a second part with Power Point Presentations and that you will include material about Javier Solana. Has this second part already been done?
If so could you give us the link?
The first part has been a tremendous blessing and I really want to watch the second part.

Rudi said...

Thanks for the feedback Constance. You know though, I’m wondering about something.
If “they” have planned to do any end-game “pitting“ there WILL come a time when there won’t be three groups of Orthodox Christians, Jews and Muslims remaining to pit against one another. At the future point written about in Revelation 13:8, the only ones who haven’t taken the mark and followed the anti-christ are those whose names are written in the Book of Life.
There will most likely be a time before this when many from the three groups and others not a part of any religion will still be “in the valley of decision” in regard to the mark and its consequences. A time when food and water could be scarce and under the control of a central group. Only those who have already “signed on” to the global system would have access to the central supply of food and water. The remaining “hold- out’s” would probably still be comprised primarily of the three groups. Starvation and lack of water most certainly could result in chaos between the three groups. Fighting between the three COULD occur because of religious differences, but somehow I don’t see “religious beliefs” being the area (other than the radical Muslims whose religious beliefs already give them justification for hating Jews and Christians) that would cause the greatest problem during this time. Christian believers who know and obey the voice of their Shepherd would hear Him telling them to help anyone –of any faith - who needs and asks for help. From what I know, the same is true for Orthodox Jews as a practice of faith. I’ve heard rumors that the Muslim faith is one of peace, but I have never had the opportunity to watch their faith in action - between practicing Muslims and non-Muslims. The remaining three groups would also include individuals who might not think twice about stealing from others or even killing to get what they want which could put some of the most generous folks in the position of having to defend their families. So, the point I’m trying to make, Constance is the end-game strategy to “PIT THE REMAINING STUBBORN 'orthodox,' 'fundamentalist', 'traditional' off against each other. “ may come but wouldn’t it have to be directed at the three main groups at some point before the anti-christ wages war against the saints. I don’t know if the point I’m driving at is coming across, but the only one of the three that will remain “separate” from the rest of the world, according to Revelation 13:8,are those who have not taken the mark.
The rest have surrendered their monotheistic faith and taken the mark to save their lives. -Rudi

Anonymous said...

Ditto David in BC
he, he, he....

Anonymous said...


There's the New Ager's strategies, and then there is God. He confounds the wicked:

Is. 19:2 “So I will incite Egyptians against Egyptians;
And they will each fight against his brother and each against his neighbor,
City against city and kingdom against kingdom.“Then the spirit of the Egyptians will be demoralized within them;
And I will confound their strategy,
So that they will resort to idols and ghosts of the dead And to mediums and spiritists.
“Moreover, I will deliver the Egyptians into the hand of a cruel master, And a mighty king will rule over them,” declares the Lord GOD of hosts.

One of my great concerns about us giving too much credit to the Alice Baileys of the world is that we we forget who the Lord God of Hosts is.

Psa. 18:3-7 I call upon the LORD, who is aworthy to be praised, And I am saved from my enemies.
The cords of death encompassed me,
And the torrents of 1ungodliness terrified me. The cords of Sheol surrounded me; The snares of death confronted me. In my distress I called upon the LORD, And cried to my God for help; He heard my voice out of His temple, And my cry for help before Him came into His ears. Then the earth shook and quaked; And the foundations of the mountains were trembling And were shaken, because He was angry.

I'm not accusing you of doing that. I think you have a deep trust in Him. God can confound the plans of the New Age, of Islam, of all those who oppose His truth.

One of the reasons, I quote so much from the Scriptures here is because it concerns me that a spirit of fear comes over us when we are constantly looking at this garbage, and we forget that "no weapons formed against us will prosper".

Our defense, more than being experts on the New Age is knowing the Word of God. When David stood against Goliath, he had 5 smooth stones ( represented the 5 books of Torah) David stood on the truth and confronted the "uncircumcised Philistine".

Moses confronted the gods of Egypt, Pharon, the Nile,etc. and in God's power he led the children of Israel ( and a mixed multitude) out on dry land.

When Pharaoh's armies were behind them the waters opened up and closed on Pharaoh's armies.

All of the battles in the Bible are won when the saints put faith in the promises of God. Do we know more about the New Age than the victory that we have in Messiah Yeshua?

There is a method to madness, even though my posts are long.. Reading the posts on this blog, all the time, one could easily lose perspective and think somehow, God is unaware of all of this. I actually think your point about Islam is quite true, if we read Scripture. All of the nations listed are Muslims nations:

Psa. 83:3-8 They make shrewd plans against Your people, And 1onspire together against bYour treasured ones. They have said, “Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation, That the name of Israel be remembered no more.” For they have conspired together with one mind; Against You they make a covenant: The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites, Moab and the Hagrites; Gebal and Ammon and Amalek, Philistia with the inhabitants of eTyre; Assyria also has joined with them; They have become help to the children of Lot. Selah.

I also do not want to give Alice Bailey, Benjamin Creme and the whole list of New Agers, too much credit. Today's Jerusalem Post had an interesting comment from one of the Fatah leaders, supposedly the "good guys".

Then there was the bin Laden remark:

and then there was the Sheikh Nassarellah remarks:

The problem is that US and the rest of the Quartet want to deal with people who are enemies of Israel.
The names of the nations who hate Israel are written in the Scriptures, but they will not succeed because as the Psalmist says:

Psa. 138:7 Though I walk in the midst of trouble, You will revive me; You will cstretch forth Your hand against the wrath of my enemies, And Your right hand will save me.

When Satan came and tempted Yeshua, He stood on the Word of God.

If God is the same yesterday, today and forever, He will feed us with manna. He can do this... Does it mean we will never suffer, or some of us will not be killed? No, but nothing can happen to us unless our Father in heaven allows it and if He allows it He will give us grace and strength in our time of need.

Just because some New Agers plan something, and even if it looks like some of their plans may be being implemented based on their writings, I do not want to say that it is a foregone conclusion that it will happen.

The Scriptures will come to pass, but not ever scheme of the evil one will come to pass. Furthermore, those of us who are truly born-again, need to take a stand in prayer and intercede.

When I use the Word of God, I consider it to be a weapon because it is powerful truth and will not return empty:

2Cor. 10:3-6 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh, for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses. We are destroying speculations and every alofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ, and we are ready to punish all disobedience, whenever your obedience is complete.

We are called to build one another up in truth and the only place I know of where we can be sure we are finding truth is in the Scriptures.

Psa. 140:7-8 “O GOD the Lord, the strength of my salvation, You have covered my head in the day of battle. “Do not grant, O LORD, the desires of the wicked; Do not promote his evil device, that they not be exalted. Selah.

For those of us who are interested in the true ending of the story, instead of the Alice Bailey version, we can find that in the Scriptures. Between hat she wants to do versus what the Lord of the armies will allow to happen,

I don't say this in a critical way, but rather to remind us to build one another up with truth and not to announce the AB plan, even if it looks like the coming deceptions as this all powerful plan that will absolutely come to pass. I always like to take some time to remember who is sitting on the throne..

Rev. 22:7 “And behold, I am coming quickly. Blessed is he who heeds the words of the prophecy of this book.”

I hope those that stand on the Word of God will be encouraged by these truths and many more which will protect you in the day of evil.

Eph. 6:12-13 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up athe full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.

It's not really Benjamin Creme or Ervin Laszlo or Obama or Javier Solana, etc. who we are fighting against. It's the forces of wickedness in the heavenlies, and Ephesians is very clear that our defense is the Word of God and prayer. We have to know the Word of God so we can stand on the promises. It is this kind of faith that pleases God, and this is our protection. If we know what God says, that when can approach Him on the basis of His holy character and unchanging ways.

I know a bit about the New Age. Knowing the Word of truth is so much more important. In knowing it you will immediately recognize the lies, but you will also know from where our Yeshua ( salvation) comes.

Constance always says my contributions are valuable, but more that what I know about New Age, I want to proclaim the truth of God's salvation and victory. May we walk in confidence and:

Matt. 10:16 “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves.


Anonymous said...

This organization mentioned on Holly Pivic's site FP, is connected to AoC, but I also want to mention that it is linked to HEB's Jerusalem Academy, albeit indirectly through Elijah Interfaith Institute which is linked to JA.


Rudi said...

Absolutely Joyce. I appreciate the encouragement. -Rudi

"You will not fear the terror of night, nor the arrow that flies by day, nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday.A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you.You will only observe with your eyes and see the punishment of the wicked.
If you make the Most High your dwelling—even the LORD, who is my refuge-then no harm will befall you,no disaster will come near your tent.For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways;they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone." Psalm 91: 5-12

Anonymous said...



Anonymous said...

Shem 1777,
I just went back and read your post on Israel. Yes, they will have to "pick their poison" so to speak, but one thing that is very clear to me is that God is allowing Israel to get into a position where they will have to depend on Him alone, not the US money, or the Neighborhood Policy, etc. It's becoming very clear that the choices are narrow.

Jimmy Carter in an interview about his new book blatantly proposed that the US use econonic blackmail if Israel doesn't listen. This is what Javier Solana has just done, so the question will become, who is Israel's God?

Remember God reduced Gideon to 300 men to prove that He was the one who would deliver them. I don't think God will allow the US, or any other nation on earth to get the glory, when He fights on behalf of His people and gathers them from the four corners of the earth.

Then the nations will know, who is the God of Israel.

We are getting close..


Anonymous said...

Anonymous 6:07 said---

"Your lack of understanding leads to the idea that all soups are of equal value, a bad thing. I feel sorry for you that you are deliberately being misled."

Awe - praise the Lord Jesus Christ - again - I know I did not forget to add the salt or the oil :)


Anonymous said...

Global Currency

Anonymous said...

Hi Rudi,

Here is the link we talked about last night in the chat room regarding possible famine in the Fall of 2009.

This could well be one of those rumors, I have no way of knowing. My brother said he talked some local farmer that said crops are abundant, so who knows?

If anyone has information that may be helpful please let me know.


Anonymous said...

My gut told me the Stock Market was being manipulated. Perhaps they are keeping all the unhappy citizens held back until they are ready for them. This artical from confirms my suspisions.

Is Obama manipulating the stock market?
Economist claims president 'jawboning' economy to boost Dow

© 2009 WorldNetDaily

The Obama administration has organized a major push by the Federal Reserve to jawbone the economy and boost the stock market, Jerome Corsi's Red Alert reports.

Economist Michael Bolser, the author of a highly successful Internet newsletter,, told Corsi the Federal Reserve is deliberately manipulating the Dow by injecting billions of repurchase agreements, or "repos," into the market in conjunction with a rare interview Sunday by Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke on the CBS "60 Minutes" television show.

"The Dow Jones Industrial Average is fully manipulated by the federal government," Bolser asserted.

Anonymous said...

by the way, welcome to Sodom!

The Webster dictionary has officially redefined marriage!

Watch the one minute youtube on this link.

Daniel Webster would roll over in his grave!

Anonymous said...

To Rudi (11:34 PM)

Just my thoughts . . .

The "pitting" (manipulation) of the three orthodox, traditional groups (Christian, Jewish and Muslim) is occuring right NOW. It is most definitely occuring among Christians themselves - with Protestants attacking Catholics - and Catholics constantly having to defend themselves against these attacks.)

After the truly devout members of these three groups reject taking the mark of the beast -- but may still be scrambling to obtain food and water (since only those who have taken the mark will have access to buy or sell) --
then, I believe that these three groups will finally realize they are united in their fight againt the Anti-Christ (who has made himself known at this point) and will put aside their differences and join forces together in this fight and come to each other's aid.

(NOTE: Now, Christians are sharply divided about wbether they will have already left the earth at this point - but that just opens up the debate again about whether the Rapture will occur pre-tribulation or post-tribulation. Only time will tell.)

Anonymous said...

Dear anonymous, re: Christians, Catholics and Muslims putting aside their differences and coming to each other's aide.

As a Christian I am happy to come to the aide of anyone in need, but I don't put aside ESSENTIAL differences in the process. Lost is lost whether your New Age, Muslim, Catholic, Evangelical. I'm not out to attack any specific group just tenacious for sound doctrine where the essentials are concerned.

I'm just as intolerant of heresy when I find it in an "evangelical" church, if not more so.

We were warned that the day would come when they will not endure sound doctrine. As Christians our conscience must be captive to the Word of God first and foremost. We aren't united against the NAM, we are united in truth. Of course there are non-essentials we can all agree to disagree on, but must be united in the essentials of the faith, such as the Atonement.

I have found it can be a lonely journey, today more than ever, but Jesus warned us to excpect as much. Narrow is the way and few there be that find it.

Anonymous said...

To Jaclyn (10:54 AM):

I am also referring to simple acts of charity.

If your neighbor is hungry or thirsty, would you not want to help him/her obtain food and water?

Jesus taught us: "Whatsoever you do to the least of these my brethren, you have also done it unto me."

Anonymous said...

To Jaclyn:

We traditional, orthodox Catholic Christians do not consider ourselves "lost" -- but we have to constantly defend ourselves against attacks which continue on this so-called "Christian" blog.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the Pope wearing a cross at the wailing wall:

A commenter at Lucianne said:

I can think of at least one Jew who wore a cross near the western wall. On his back.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 10:54, Absolutely, I agree with you, we are called to good works and I would always assist a neighbor or anyone in need of food or clothing. I would also, as I have done, use it as an opportunity to share the good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ with them.

Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.

Shem1777 said...

We know there will be an economy right up until the day of the Lord.

It certainly seems as though this "financial crisis" was planned many years ago, to jump start the global economy.

The lending laws set in place during the Carter administration, were put in place to bring all into the "system". Don't forget we are a hyper-inclusive world now. All "must" participate. Also during the Nixon administration we were taken off the gold standard, paving the way for the printing of unlimited sums of ethereal money. Then of course e-money, and the beast system.

Here is a link to tribwatch, and a chapter on the tribulation, and a different perspective on the period, and the economy then.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, 11:44

There are lost people in EVERY denomination, including mine. I'm not talking about denominations or religions.

I'm simply saying our unity comes from truth to and love for the ESSENTIALS of the Faith as revealed in God's Word.

Anonymous said...

To Jaclyn (12:10 PM)

I would only suggest that those who are left -- who have made the decision NOT to take "the mark of the Beast" and would be willing to die of starvation or thirst -- would (at that point) not be LOST souls. They would have already been converted. Otherwise, there would be no reason for them to REJECT accepting "the mark" in the first place.

Anonymous said...

I agree, I would imagine those who refuse the mark do so because their conscience is bound to the truth of God's word, remember, Jesus told us there would be such a great deception that if it were possible, even the elect would be decieved.

It is my understanding that there will be an enormous amount of death, in part due to the UN's desire to depopulate the earth by about 80-85%.

This is simply my understanding at this point. Much of the UN documents are relatively new to me, I'm still processing and learning about current events and organizations like the AOC.

Anonymous said...

ASSOCIATED PRESS, "The Obama administration will endorse a U.N. declaration calling for the worldwide decriminalization of homosexuality that then-President George W. Bush had refused to sign, The Associated Press has learned.
U.S. officials said Tuesday they had notified the declaration's French sponsors that the administration wants to be added as a supporter."

"The official added that the United States was concerned about 'violence and human rights abuses against gay, lesbian, transsexual and bisexual individuals' and was also 'troubled by the criminalization of sexual orientation in many countries.'
'In the words of the United States Supreme Court, the right to be free from criminalization on the basis of sexual orientation 'has been accepted as an integral part of human freedom',' the official said. "


By His Grace,

Shem1777 said...

Just read this new post on Slice, by Ingrid Schlueter. Check it out.

Why a Slice of Laodicea?

Anonymous said...

To Jaclyn (12:55 PM):

Just my thoughts . . .

The "very elect" could be deceived much sooner, rather than later.

They could decide that the following makes perfect sense to them:

"Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are ALL guilty of idolatry for believing in one God and not validating the religious beliefs of the world's polytheists."

In other words, they could ask themselves, "What would Jesus do?" And, in the process, falsely deceive themselves into believing and accepting that this One World Religion is for the "good of all mankind" -- even though it's not a "religion" at all -- but an abandonment of their traditional, orthodox faiths in exchange for the worship of the Anti-Christ.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, thanks for your input.

Actually, the elect will not be deceived by the Anti-Christ/NWO, Jesus said it's not possible. He also said, "My sheep know My voice and another they will not follow". He is the Author and Finisher of our faith. Also, He said to the Father all that You have given to Me will come to Me and I will not lose one of them.

It is so comforting to know that our security lies with Him and not ourselves, our flesh is so weak.

Thanks again for the comment!

Shem1777 said...

For perhaps a more accurate view on the tribulation, check this link out.

I gave an incorrect link first time. Sorry. I typed a ?, where a / belonged!!!

Anonymous said...

Matthew 24:24

"For there shall arise false christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

Anonymous said...

It's probably obvious that link just above Shem was from me, (Jaclyn) I don't know why it posted as anonymous, sorry about that, not trying to pull any fast ones;-)

Anonymous said...

Constance-the unending attacks against Catholics on this blog has become de rigour. The "opinions" of those who attack are defended by you as valuable, while those who try to answer the attacks are defined as "mean". This happens so consistently, the latest being the lost comment, that the contributions of Catholic researchers are being negated. Is this what you want?
Also, please be aware you cannot collapse comments on a handheld device while required to scroll down. This is the tedious way I view this blog.

Anonymous said...

In reply to Shem, you link a "perhaps more accurate view" of the tribulation to

This site, Tribwatch, with which I have been intensely familiar for years, because the author has used my family information for some of his genealogical research, says the tribulation will start out as a prosperous period. This author is skewed in favor of the idea that the trib will not be a really threatening period, at least at first. This concept is common among those who think only the last half of the trib will be horrendous. This author, John, is of course opposed to any sort of "rapture" as unneeded. He believes we will most of us survive the trib in our rural huts with stored food and wells...a situation that only a few will really put into effect anyway.

I have always told John I disagree about this: I think ALL of the tribulation will be horrendous. None of us really knows, however, what it will really be as it further unfolds. In my view, the economic hardship in America, plus the already horrendous suffering of people in many other countries, is not a "prosperous" period even now.

John has done some interesting genealogical research but his view of what is coming is really acentric, I think. He already has his rural hut, well, and storage of he may not be as confident in his heart as this sounds like.


Anonymous said...

Adding to my comment on Tribwatch, to Shem:

I read again the material you liked at, and it seems to be saying that a some deaths and mayhem are of dubious importance if one is a believing Christian and hence saved for eternal life. In other words (I think, I'm not sure I am even reading this right)the tribulation period, while killing more than half of the people on earth, will not be any worse a period than other periods, by and large. But he still suggests we get ready for it by having our rural retreat, storage of food, well, etc.

This is simply nonsense because,as has been stated her on this blog, the NWO technical grid will allow NO ONE to escape. Someone off in rural Montana, as OMOTS said, will be on the surveillance grid, and will take the mark of the Beast, or else.

John has been thinking too long about the Middle Ages, when knights were bold and had their castle retreats in rural places. My ancestors that he writes about did this, but they wouldn't be able to do it now. Now is ME.


Anonymous said...

In the Appendix (written in 1949) of the Treatise on the Seven Rays in the Baily book The Rays and The Initiations, we find this statement,
"From the standpoint of the Hierarchy, these three (communism, democracy, socialism) ideologies are three aspects of one great spiritual event; the outcome of the interplay between them can eventute in an increased spiritual approach to divinity of (if the Forces of Light do not triumph) they can drive mankind deeper into the pit or prison of materialism. The intense political interest of the Catholic Church, plus its gross materialism, acts as a great handicap to the steady gain of the spiritual position; if however, the Catholic hierarchy can renounce or relinquish its material and political aims and present the love of God in its beaut, it can do much to lead humanity out of darkness into light."

This is only one of the many attacks on the Catholic church found in the Bailey writings.

Why the attacks in my opinion? Because it is the Catholic community who has fought the growing paganism in the political arena far more than any Protestant group has been able to do. Why? Because the Protestant community is fragmented and being unable to unite they do not present much of a opponent to an organized New Age movement.

It was the Catholic community in Mexico that fought back. It was the Catholic community in Spain that fought back. It was the Catholic community in Germany that fought back. It was the Catholic community in Poland that fought back against the state.

Disagree with the theology, but until the Protestant community, and that includes the messianic group, shows that it has the ability to put its life on the line in order to protect its members' ability to practice their faith, it is dependent on what the Catholic community will do.

I would recommend Burleigh's book Sacred Causes. This is the Amazon link.

I would caution others to be wary of those who attack the Catholic church as well as those who attempt to get others to stand back and do nothing. If one is going to take pride in being a martyr for the faith, better to do it while accomplishing something other than sitting and being useless.

Anonymous said...

Good grief, the CONSTANT whining and tattling to Constance is getting old. Enough already, grow up!

Anonymous said...

For those of us who plan to grow our own food during the time of the Tribulation period, please read this article:

WorldNetDaily Exclusive
Lose your property for growing food?
Big Brother legislation could mean prosecution, fines up to $1 million

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous (6:56 PM):

Msybe it's also time for some of you (and you KNOW who you are) to also "grow up" and accept responsibility for your own actions on this blog.

Anonymous said...


Rome, Italy, Mar 18, 2009 / 02:13 am (CNA).- Contrary to comments attributed to an Israeli rabbi, Pope Benedict XVI will not be barred from entering the holy area of Jerusalem’s Western Wall while wearing a cross.

On Tuesday the Jerusalem Post quoted Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovitch, who oversees worship matters at the Western Wall, as saying that the Pope should not wear a cross during his visit to the area.

“It is not fitting to enter the Western Wall area with religious symbols, including a cross,” the rabbi reportedly said, according to SIR.

Mordechay Lewy, Israel’s Ambassador to the Holy See, issued a clarifying statement saying that the Jerusalem Post’s quotation was “misleading.”

Ambassador Lewy said that Israel will “respect, as a matter of course, the religious symbols of the Holy Father and of his entourage, as expected in accordance with rules of hospitality and dignity,” following the same procedure applied in Pope John Paul II’s papal visit to Israel in 2000.

“This was confirmed to a high Official of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Jerusalem personally by Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovitch,” the ambassador’s statement continued.

Pope Benedict is scheduled to visit the Western Wall on May 12 as part of his journey to the Holy Land.

Shem1777 said...


Your opinion of Johns writings on end times I think are pretty much accurate.

I just posted it because some posters were saying we would not all be killed during this period. I do think that our Heavenly Father will be glorified in His saints either in life, or in our martyrdom.

I do believe that God will only allow what He will, and there will be many survivors raptured at the end.

There will only be so many soldiers of satan to round us up, and they wont get us all.

Perhaps OMOTS is nearly as "off center" as John?

Anonymous said...

It seems the world is turning on Israel.

This is posted on Drudge from the International Herald Tribune.
Is a global rebranding what Israel needs?
By ETHAN BRONNER Published: March 18, 2009

Jerusalem: Israel, whose founding idea was branded as racism by the United Nations General Assembly in 1975 and which faced an Arab boycott for decades, is no stranger to isolation. But since its Gaza war, and as it prepares to inaugurate a hawkish right-wing government, it is facing its worst diplomatic crisis in two decades.

Examples abound. Its sports teams have met hostility and violent protests in Sweden, Spain and Turkey. Mauritania has closed the Israeli Embassy. Relations with Turkey, an important Muslim ally, have suffered severely. A group of top international judges and human rights investigators recently called for an investigation into Israel's actions in Gaza. "Israel Apartheid Week" drew participants in 54 cities around the world this month, twice the number of last year, according to its organizers. And even in the American Jewish community, albeit in its liberal wing, there is a chill.

Rudi said...

Hi Jaclyn, Thanks so much for sharing the link to the famine/global food catastrophe info. I found the research presented by Eric deCarbonnel quite thought provoking. I also read through many of the comments which followed, where some had questions and a few had criticism on a few points from his research. deCarbonnel responded to all, and added some additional background documentation of his sources to support his assessment.
I found some additional information today that I'm trying to get organized well enough to share with you and others by tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

Part II in a series based on an interview with a former, highly-placed U.S. intelligence official who breaks his silence on the increasing probability of abandonment of Israel by the U.S. and other Western countries based on what he termed “malicious intelligence.”

By Douglas J. Hagmann, Director

10 March 2009: The Middle East will be the site of “the coming war,” and Israel will be at it’s epicenter. If we survive as a nation, the U.S. will not be on the side of righteousness in this war, instead turning our back to - or our guns against - our only true friend in the Middle East: Israel.

“Remember the phrase malicious intelligence?” asked the source during our latest interview. Well, Charles Freeman, appointed by Barack Hussein Obama to chair the National Intelligence Council can be presented as “exhibit 1.” Freeman, a former ambassador to Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf war and an obvious the benefactor of Saudi money in his position as head of the Middle East Policy Council, has shifted his public position on the “reasons” behind the attack of 9/11 and Israel as a U.S. ally as quickly as former UN weapons inspector Scott RITTER shifted his public position on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

RITTER is referenced here not to digress from the primary topic, but is an integral part of the topic. He also illustrates how someone is apparently able to mentally reconcile and public embrace two starkly opposing viewpoints in a matter of a few short years without being medically diagnosed as a schizophrenic. In a most generic sense, many of the same factors involved in the about face done by Scott RITTER can be used as a template overlay for Charles Freeman, sans RITTER’s “alleged” search for contraband of a different type at a Burger King restaurant in Colonie, a suburb of Albany, NY. In a more specific sense, however, some of the “usual suspects” begin to emerge in both cases. While RITTER has been relegated to “shill status” for those “usual suspects” intent on implementing a “New World Order,” FREEMAN is being moved in as a key player.

RITTER, of course, was a United Nations weapons inspector from 1991 to 1998 and was an outspoken critic of Saddam Hussein. That was, of course, until Shakir al-Khafaji, a close contact of Saddam Hussein and an Iraqi-American businessman from Detroit reportedly provided RITTER with $400,000 to produce a documentary titled In Shifting Sands that was extremely critical of the U.S. led U.N. inspections. It should be noted that in 2004, Shakir al-Khafaji pled guilty to multiple felony charges for his role in the U.N. Oil-for-Food scandal and that RITTER, of course, staunchly denies being the benefactor of Iraqi money. In fact, when RITTER was questioned about how he would respond to accusations of a “quid pro Quo relationship” with Shakir al-Khafaji (about monetary allocations in his name), he was quoted by Dr. Laurie Mylroie, writing in the Financial Times, stating: “I’d say that person’s a f***ing liar…and tell him to come over here so I can kick his a**.” [Expletives deleted].

I experienced some of that same venom when I had the opportunity to question RITTER about his “epiphany” about Iraq when he appeared as a guest on the Pat Campbell Show a few years back. During that exchange, RITTER denied receiving any Iraqi money from al-Khafaji, but was less than concise when he attempted to explain the underwriting process of that pro-Saddam, anti-U.S. propaganda.

Now consider the Charles FREEMAN’s about-face regarding Israel as a friend and valuable ally of the United States, his more recent comments about the reasons behind the 9/11 attacks, and perhaps more importantly, his relationship with Saudi Arabia (including Citibank shareholder Prince Al-Waleed) through the prism of the RITTER affair. While both experienced their own individual epiphanies that share the same anti-Israeli roots, the difference here is that FREEMAN is about to assume a position of leadership with the National Intelligence Council, whose stated goal is to provide U.S. policymakers with unbiased information on issues of national security and global threats. He is on the inside, while RITTER, perhaps still searching for a method of “having it his way,” is presently out of the inner circle.

Both, however, appear to share the common public position that Israel and the U.S. pro-Israel lobby is to blame for everything from the impetus for the 9/11 attacks to our war against Islamic terrorists. Both share vicious criticism of Israel. Both seem to be at ease with Iran’s nuclear ambitions. In the case of Charles FREEMAN, however, such sentiments extend beyond propaganda and can influence – or become U.S. policy.

An article published today in the Wall Street Journal titled Obama’s National Intelligence Crackpot (What does the Jewish lobby have to do with China’s dissidents) does well to expose FREEMAN for who he is and the role he will play in our relationship with Israel and our war against Islamic terrorism. And if you want to follow the money and the globalist agenda, note that FREEMAN sits on the board of a major oil company owned by the Chinese government that is in the midst of a multibillion dollar deal with Iran, as reported by World Net Daily. So now we have the presumptive leader of the National Intelligence Council having ties to Iran via China, in addition to his financial ties to Saudi Arabia, the largest exporter of Wahabbism in the world - and the bankroll behind the Islamists inside the U.S.

How can any rational or sane person accept such a preposterous appointment? Well, it seems that many such appointments have been made that defy rationality, unless one can recognize that a larger agenda is at play here.

Intelligence for national security purposes must not be subjugated by politics or financial interests, otherwise it becomes malicious at the hands with those having agendas. If one chooses to argue that Iraq was the victim of big oil interests, than that same argument must extend to our relationship with Israel and opposing Arab countries. In other words, money talks – and it talks loudly, frequently drowning out the truth with political propaganda propagated by a media already influenced by Arab financial interests. And with money comes power and influence.

“Now you can see where intelligence and politics meet and often collide,” a reference made during my initial interview with this former U.S. intelligence official. Now this intelligence official explained that the Obama administration is being purposely filled with people who are truly anti-Israel, either because of their own financial interests or a larger globalist agenda that does not include Israel, or for that matter, the United States as a sovereign nation.

“Whatever the reason, the anti-Israel, pro-Islamist policy makers will be appointed or have already infiltrated nearly all levels of the U.S. government. These are the people who place anti-Semitic references in school textbooks, promote revisionist history regarding Islam, 9/11, and are the same people who allow or even promote the Islamic agendas in all aspects of Western society, especially the restrictions on speech against Islam. With regard to the latter, note that the United Nations is quite involved in forcing the restriction of “hate speech” and the implementation of global standards, some that have already been adapted by European nations.”

“Closer to home, there is an organized, concerted effort on the part of these individuals to foster an atmosphere of anti-Semitism throughout the West, and in particular within the United States. This is an important aspect of their global objectives, and includes blaming the Jews for our current financial crisis. The majority of Americans might not care about or even understand the situation with the Palestinians, Israel or the Middle East, but they certainly care about their own finances, especially when they see their retirement funds evaporating before their eyes. Now, they become afraid, anxious and angry.”

“Associate Israel or Jewish interests with global instability, Americans will become upset with the Jews and Israel. Blame them for being responsible for or contributing to the loss of their retirement and their economic problems, they will become angry. The objective is to erode support for the Jews and Israel in America, and is being done with the assistance of a media influenced and infiltrated by anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian, Arab and Muslim apologists. At the same time that the anti-Semitic undercurrent is perpetuated in America, world pressure against Israel will mount. Expect to see an increase in hostile acts against Jews in the U.S., Jewish synagogues and other Jewish assets,” stated this source.

Meanwhile, in order for the globalist agenda to succeed, the United States cannot remain a close ally of Israel. That relationship is being undermined from within, and the information being publicly disseminated is being manipulated from within - by a compromised and all-too-willing media.” According to this source, the groundwork to get to this point has been in the works for years, if not decades. “It was just placed on the fast track under Obama, who has promised his allegiance to the Arabs. If not already, this will become quite evident to even the most skeptical, much to the consternation of the majority of American Jews who voted for him.”

As for the coming war, it has already begun as a war for the minds, hearts and souls of the people in the West, and will manifest itself quickly to a physical war between Israel and her Arab neighbors. It will likely begin as it has in the past, with a missile or rocket fired by HAMAS, followed by a measured response from Israel. Then a good dose of propaganda from the media, who will portray the Jews as murderers of innocent men, women and children. Then outrage and condemnation from the international community, led by the United Nations, who will demand peace at the expense of Israel. This time, the U.N. will have the cooperation of the United States under the Obama administration.

We will send troops as part of a larger ‘peacekeeping mission,’ but they will most certainly not be there to help the Israelis. But first, America must be convinced that being an ally of Israel is not in our best interests, and they are the antagonists in this scenario. By electing who we have, and by the appointments already made and policies already implemented, they’re off to a pretty good start, don’t you think?”

Numerous people have questioned how a junior senator from Illinois - a virtual unknown - could rise from virtual obscurity to the leader of the free world in seven years. Many of the same people have asked how that same person could rise to power despite still-unanswered questionsof his eligibility, and a past checkered by questionable associates and associations.

The answers lie in the globalist agenda, one that has no place for Israel, beyond Israel being the catalyst for the implementation of a new world order.


Anonymous said...

Thanks Rudi, I look forward to reading about your findings and appreciate your research.

I just read your profile. I too, loved the books Evidence Not Seen by Darlene Diebler Rose and the Hiding Place by Corrie Ten Boom, they are such inspirations!

I often think of Corrie who, in her day saw the dark clouds of Nazism gather. She was such a faithful and brave soldier, I hope I can be half the woman she was....we will see her someday.

Constance Cumbey said...

To anonymous 11:25 p.m. Dr. Stan has that video. I have no idea how it came out. My basic materials you can pull down by going to the "Presentations for Downloading" and pressing the link and then the buttons for what you find useful.


Constance Cumbey said...

For the record, some of the VERY BEST of Christian opposition to the New Age Movement is coming from the current archbishop of Mexico City. Somebody recently gave me an English translation of his PASTORAL INSTRUCTION ON THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT. It was extremely comprehensive and very well done.


Constance Cumbey said...

I don't like the attacks on the Catholics on the blog and I also don't like the attacks on the Messianic Jews on this blog.


Anonymous said...

Most of us are familiar with the expression "the time of Jacob's trouble". For the benefit of all of us, I am post chapter 30 of Jeremiah which I hope you all read carefully. Bear in mind Judah=Jews, and Israel, or the House of Israel means the 10 tribes who have literally become "the fulness of the nations" i.e. the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel who are in the nations and do not know themselves who they are. ( God knows).

I point this out because we have a tendency to think that it's only the Jews who will be persecuted, but it is the sheep who have been touched when the Gospel went out to the 4 corners of the earth who are now in the nations, looking like Gentiles..(prophecy of Hosea).

Jer. 30 The word which came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying, “Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel, ‘Write all the words which I have spoken to you in a book. ‘For behold, days are coming,’ declares the LORD, ‘when I will brestore the fortunes of My people Israel and Judah.’ The LORD says, ‘I will also dbring them back to the land that I gave to their forefathers and they shall possess it.’”
Now these are the words which the LORD spoke concerning Israel and concerning Judah: “For thus says the LORD, ‘1I have heard a sound of aterror,
Of dread, and there is no peace. ‘Ask now, and see
If a male can give birth. Why do I see every man
With his hands on his loins, aas a woman in childbirth? And why have all faces turned pale? ‘Alas! for that day is great, There is bnone like it;
And it is the time of Jacob’s distress, But he will be saved from it.
‘It shall come about on that day,’ declares the LORD of hosts, ‘that I will break his yoke from off their neck and will tear off their bonds; and strangers will no longer make them their slaves. ‘But they shall serve the LORD their God and David their king, whom I will raise up for them. ‘Fear not, O Jacob My servant,’ declares the LORD, ‘And do not be dismayed, O Israel; For behold, I will save you from afar
And your offspring from the land of their captivity.
And Jacob will return and will be quiet and at ease,
And dno one will make him afraid. ‘For I am with you,’ declares the LORD, ‘to save you; For I will destroy completely all the nations where I have scattered you,
Only I will cnot destroy you completely.
But I will dchasten you justly
And will by no means leave you unpunished.’
“For thus says the LORD,
‘Your wound is incurable
And your injury is serious. ‘There is no one to plead your cause; No healing for your sore, No recovery for you ‘All your lovers have forgotten you,
They do not seek you;
For I have wounded you with the wound of an enemy,
With the punishment of a cruel one,
Because your iniquity is great
And your sins are numerous. ‘Why do you cry out over your injury?
Your pain is incurable.
Because your iniquity is great
And your sins are numerous,
I have done these things to you.
‘Therefore all who devour you will be devoured;
And all your adversaries, every one of them, bwill go into captivity;
And those who plunder you will be for plunder,
And all who prey upon you I will give for prey.
‘For I will restore you to health
And I will heal you of your wounds,’ declares the LORD,
‘Because they have called you an boutcast, saying:
“It is Zion; no one 3cares for her.”’ “Thus says the LORD,
‘Behold, I will restore the fortunes of the tents of Jacob
And have compassion on his dwelling places;
And the city will be rebuilt on its ruin,
And the palace will stand on its rightful place. ‘From them will proceed thanksgiving
And the voice of those who celebrate;
And I will multiply them and they will not be diminished;
I will also honor them and they will not be insignificant.
Their children also will be as formerly,
And their congregation shall be established before Me;
And I will punish all their oppressors.
Their leader shall be one of them,
And their ruler shall come forth from 1their midst;
And I will bring him near and he shall approach Me;
For who would dare to risk his life to approach Me?’ declares the LORD. ‘You shall be My people,
And I will be your God.’” Behold, the tempest of the LORD!
Wrath has gone forth,
A 1sweeping tempest;
It will burst on the head of the wicked.
The fierce anger of the LORD will not turn back
Until He has performed and until He has accomplished The intent of His heart;
In the latter days you will understand this.

In a nutshell, God is going to gather all Israel, after the nations have turned on Israel and He is going to restore, them. He will put His covenant on their minds as it says in Jer 31:31-33.

The replacement theology of the church has obscured the truth of Scripture, that through the centuries God has been dealing with Israel. The house of Judah and the House of Israel who are in the nations looking like Gentiles. He is gathering up people from the nations too, but He is fulfilling His Covenants with Israel.

Because the world doesn't believe in the God of Israel and cannot see the big picture, they will find themselves in rebellion against God Himself. This idea that "a church" has replaced Israel began 2nd, 3rd, 4th Century when the Gentile believers began pulling away from the olive tree. It has continued ever since.

God has not rejected Israel, but He chastises us in order to bring us to Himself. He is kadosh ( holy) and does not change, nor do His promises.

This is very important to understand. It is also important that the gentile believers understand that they are part of Israel, not a separate entity. You must know who it is you are covenanted to, and that's the God of Israel. Some of you might be the physical seed of israel, but God will reveal that if you are. Even if you aren't, it makes no difference. Caleb, who attached to Judah, was a Kenizzite. Ruth was a Moabite, Jethro was from Midian, Rahab was a Canaanite.

All of these people understood who Israel's God was and attached to Him and His people. Those of us who love the God of Israel will be targeted for persecution because Satan hates all those who stand for the true and living God. God can protect us, so may not be protected and will be given grace to identify with Yeshua's in His suffering. We will be refined.

God is preparing His bride, Israel. We broke the covenant on Mt. Sinai, but when He renewed it through the blood of Yeshua, the ultimate high priest, God was keeping His Word.

Speaking of Israel:

Deut. 29:29 “The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but bthe things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law. ( Torah)

This is the awesome promise that God made back in the Wilderness when He gave Israel, a contract of marriage. Israel is the bride:

Deut. 30:1-8 “So it shall be when all of these things have come upon you, athe blessing and the curse which I have set before you, and you 1call them to mind bin all nations where the LORD your God has banished you, and you areturn to the LORD your God and obey Him bwith all your heart and soul according to all that I command you today, you and your sons, then the LORD your God will restore you from captivity, and have compassion on you, and bwill gather you again from all the peoples where the LORD your God has cscattered you. “If your outcasts are at the ends of the 1earth, afrom there the LORD your God will gather you, and from there He will 2bring you back.
Deut. 30:5 “aThe LORD your God will bring you into the land which your fathers possessed, and you shall possess it; and He will prosper you and bmultiply you more than your fathers.
“Moreover athe LORD your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, bto love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul, so that you may live. “The LORD your God will 1inflict all these curses on your enemies and on those who hate you, who persecuted you. “And you shall again obey the LORD, and observe all His commandments which I command you today.

God is a covenant-keeping God and He renewed His covenant with Israel, knowing that they would break it. He says, "when you do this and that, I will do ..." etc. He knew, but He loves Israel and will be glorified through Israel. In the meantime, the nations will make a lot of mistakes. God help them because they don't realize what they are doing.

Remember, what Scripture says:

Deut. 29:29 “The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons FOREVER, that we may observe all the words of this Torah.


Anonymous said...

I mentioned several weeks back that the choice of Mitchell in the Mideast peace process was because of an identification with Ireland. Northern Ireland, which is UK and has many Protestants identifies with Israel, oddly enough. There has been a recent upsurge in the violence with some groups from the IRA killing people. The Jerusalem Post had this headline:

You can click on the links below this article to read about the killings.

It's interesting because true peace cannot come through political means when there has been killing. Bitterness and lack of forgiveness are impossible apart from Yeshua. Even though these groups claim to believe in Him, one must ask which ones are really "new creations". When we have a new birth we cannot go around killing people we don't agree with, and we are commanded to forgive our enemies as Yeshua did on the cross. His blood paid for our sins and everyone else's.

This is such an important point because the measure with which we forgive is the measure to which we will be forgiven.

Mideast peace cannot happen because there is nothing but bitterness apart from the Prince of Peace. It will be interesting to see how these two "peace processes" are linked in the future.


Anonymous said...

I would caution others to be wary of those who attack the Catholic church as well as those who attempt to get others to stand back and do nothing. If one is going to take pride in being a martyr for the faith, better to do it while accomplishing something other than sitting and being useless.


Anonymous said...

ANON 6:22...

"if one is going to take pride in being a martyr for the faith...."

Such strong words coming from one hiding behind the veil of anonymity.

There's no "pride" in being a martyr. The cross is a shameful symbol, which we all must take up and carry if we are to be considered faithful.

Anonymous said...

Dear Constance

Regarding the Catholic apostates who are promoting New Age "spirituality" (a.k.a. occultism) in the "Emergent Church" movement..... apart from ex nun Karen Armstrong is Father Richard Rohr, OFM.

Carrie Tomko posted some excellent articles on Father Rohr and his so-called "NEW JERUSALEM" community just this past Autumn (2008).


Why Rohr has not been suspended and/or declared excommunicated is indeed a mystery to me. Rohr claims a letter was sent by the Vatican to his bishop exonerating him from any heresy, but I have never seen a copy of such a letter. If there were such a letter, you can be sure it would appear prominently on the front page of the liberal "Catholic" news weekly known as The National Catholic Reporter.

But then we shouldn't be surprised at the delay on the part of the Vatican, given the time it took before the former "New Age" Dominican apostate priest Father Matthew Fox O.P. was formally dealt with by the Vatican.

On the one hand one would hope that things could move along more quickly, but on the other, given all the yapping in some quarters about the so-called "injustices" of the "Inquisition" one would not wish to see the Vatican rendering hasty judgements without getting ALL the facts.

From where I am sitting, the Emerging Church looks like a merger of heretics from all the Christian denominations. It would come as no surprise if the word "catholic" is used at some point to describe this "emerging church" - not in the sense of Roman Catholic but in the sense of the meaning of the word "catholic" with a small "c" which means "universal."

Just a little recap here.

If you take a look at the word "catholic" as used by the Hieron du Val d'Or in the nineteenth centure as a euphemism/disguise for the "esoteric Christianity" (a.k.a. gnosticism) it embodied, you will be able to get something of an idea of what the architects of the "Emerging Church" are trying to achieve in our own time.

Spanish Baron Alexis de Sarachaga and Father Victor Drevon, S.J. were the co-founders of the Hieron du Val d'Or in 1873. Sarachaga also had ties to members of the Russian nobility. It appears from all accounts that Sarachaga was the one with esoteric interests.

Rene Guenon, who along with Ananda Coomaraswamy, Frithjof Schuon and Italian occultist Julius Evola was one of the architects of the "Traditionalist School" (a.k.a. "perennial philosophy") was connected to the Hieron du Val d'Or vis a vis its propaganda arm REGNABIT. (Savitri Devi - a.k.a. "Hitler's Priestess" - was influenced by Julius Evola and Rene Guenon)

It is to be recalled that Rene Guenon was consecrated a "bishop" in a branch of the "gnostic church"
founded by Jules Doinel who had ties to Blavatsky through her friend Lady Caithness. Doinel's gnostic church was the one in which the famous occultist Papus also functioned as a "bishop."

At one time Papus was a member of the Theosophical Society founded by Madame Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, but he left Blavatsky's group and started his own version of the Theosophical Society because he preferred the "esoteric Christianity"(gnosticiam) of the West to the "esoteric Buddhism" of the East embodied in Blavatsky's group.

Paul Le Cour, whom I have mentioned previously, became Sarachaga's successor - signified by the bequeathing of Sarachaga's signet ring (representing Cybele) on Paul Le Cour.

Paul Le Cour's writings on THE AGE OF AQUARIUS preceded those of Marilyn Ferguson. One of the reasons why Le Cour's writings have not been translated into English is because of Le Cour's anti-Semitism.

Paul Le Cour died in 1954.

In terms of continuity.......

It was not long after Le Cour's death that Pierre Plantard and his partners in crime started planting phony documents in the Bibliotech Nationale. These documents were used as "evidence" for the claims made in the 1982 book HOLY BLOOD HOLY GRAIL. Claims which were recently resuscitated in THE DA VINCI CODE.

In my opinion, the only reason why Plantard's scheme is being fluffed off as a "hoax" is because:

1. Some of his partners broke ranks

2. There seems to be a rivalry between the English "ten lost tribes" and the French ones with their "Grand Monarch."

If anyone thinks this is all "just plain nuts," then he/she should look into the things "true believers" in Nazi Germany were willing to swallow.

It is to be noted that one of the secret missions of the Hieron du Val d'Or was to set up a "catholic" Freemasonry to rival the Freemasonry of the Protestants.

More on the timeline.........

In the early to middle 1900s, American mystic, theologian, and founder of the Association for Research and Enlightenment Edgar Cayce was a seminal influence on what later would be termed the New Age Movement; he was known in particular for the practice some refer to as channeling.[9] The early New Age Movement in Russia during the 1910s was influenced by Nicholas Roerich and Helena Roerich, who taught in the Theosophical tradition and founded the Agni Yoga Society. Former Theosophist Rudolf Steiner and his Anthroposophical Movement are a major influence. Neo-Theosophist Alice Bailey published the book Discipleship in the New Age (1944), which used the term New Age in reference to the transition from the Astrological Age of Pisces to Aquarius. While claims of racial bias in the writings of Rudolf Steiner and Alice Bailey were made,[10] Steiner emphasized racial equality as a principle central to anthroposophical thought and humanity's progress.[11][12] Any racial elements from these influences have not remained part of the Anthroposophical Society as contemporary adherents of the society have either not adopted or repudiated these beliefs.[13][14] Another early usage of the term, was by the American artist, mystic, and philosopher Walter Russell, who spoke in an essay of "...this New Age philosophy of the spiritual re-awakening of man...", also published in 1944.

The Findhorn Foundation was founded in 1962. As mentioned on a previous thread, co-founder Peter Caddy reportedly belonged to a Rosicrucian Order.

The modern "New Age Movement" began in the late 1960s and early 1970s, although, as we can see, elements of it can be traced back to the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

The "Emerging Church" may be one more element of the New Age Movement - serving as its "ecclesiastical arm" in a manner similar to the way in which the "Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica" served as the "ecclesiastical arm" of the infamous O.T.O. - which is still in existence!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 11:03
I don't think it would help if I called myself Judy, James, Sandra, Sam, Loretta or Lewis. You would still know nothing about me.

Obviously my point hit home with you. Too many people take pride in a future martyrdom, feeling they need do nothing but wait until martyrdom maybe, sometimes, perhaps may come to them. Until then they will sit politely, doing nothing. But they will be willing to let others choose their fate for them. And just maybe, they might sneak under the rader, never becoming martyrs while proclaiming how willing they are to become martyrs.

My observation? Just shut up and at least picket an abortion clinic. Do something that might get you in trouble so that you earn that martyr label.