Monday, July 04, 2011
NATO War Against Libya's Khaddafi is meeting resistance
I don't know for sure what is happening there, but whatever it is, it does not appear to be good. Maybe the old Hal Lindsey books about Ezekiel 38 prophecies need a fresh examination in light of current events. A coalition of Russia, Libya, Ethiopia and Persia coming against Israel looks frighteningly plausible these days.
1And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,At any rate, American hegemony in that region appears to have stepped over some sensitive lines. Something is stirring in those winds!
2Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
With that being said, this still should be listened to -- with caution:
`our brother leader` also has a black badge of Africa as part of his display of medals on his clothing. The Word says he will come to nothing (destroyed) and no one will help him. Interesting times
You also can use the list to point out the progressive/leftist/New Age slant to his agenda.
He gave it the Savior He promised He would and a remnant was saved from it. They followed Christ by the thousands or hundreds of thousands. It's the 'behind the scenes' thing you can clearly see in the gospels. He fed the 5,000 (less women and children). Why were they there?
They were there because they were expecting the Messiah and they knew who he was. Throughout His ministry He was surrounded by crowds and even had to escape from them at times.
Our modern church was started by Jews...specifically 12 of them with thousands of followers and hundreds of thousands of converts (see Hebrews as an example). Can I suggest that these Jews were the remnant and that we're nation following presently?
The nation of Israel is an ungodly nation. They're ungodly because they do not believe in God. And if you think they love you as much as you love them, look up the word Goyim.
They're presently engaged in a battle with another ungodly group of people...muslims. If you can find the God of the Old Testament or the New Testament in this fight, please document it.
As a side note, why are Jews in the US siding against Israel? There are thousands of them and you can start with Rahm Emanuel. Go backward from there.
We are engaged in a perpetual state of nation worship...even the elect are 'being fooled'.
God may save every person in Israel. That will be His choice if that's what He does. Until then, they are not Christian.
Dorothy is absolutely right.
To go a step further, many Protestant groups don't even realize how they are being 'used' as tools to go up against both the Jews and the Catholics.
Ultimately, the Protestants will be the final group to be persecuted.
Am watching this incredibly sophisticated video -- a long one -- that seems to be a sophisticated attack on Christianity with a "Share International" slant. I don't know if SI is behind this one, but the agenda appears the same.
I really don't have the time to spend almost two hours listening to the film. The above does give me some information however.
I hope others will take the time and report on the film.
There is no answer to that question that I have found that is comforting. In fact, the answers I have found are rather disturbing!
Russia is not our friend.
A very disturbing sign of the New Age times.
Bethel Church has worldwide influence as they post videos such as this on their site for anyone to view. And many are deceived into thinking this stuff is really of God.
Looks to be Kundalini manifestations; or, if not, something like it.
I share your heart breaking concern. Its as there is no distinction between the new age /pagan practices and this so called `christian` `rituals` . This can cause severe mental health problems if not costing their souls!
If those who post here are so 'incompetent and scatterbrained' - what are you (the 'superior' person that you imagine yourself to be) doing wasting your time posting here?
Researchers mentioned in opening sequence =
Dr Scott Johnson
In association with Hour of the Time.
I'm settling down to watch this.
I do like Dave Ramsey's financial program, however. Ive never listened to his radio show but I own a couple of his books. I have never seen any New Age ideas there, whether explicit or stealth.
I would check it out with an open mind but use discernment of course. If Ramsey were to go New Age it would not really surprise me. He has had a lot of popular and financial success, and people who have achieved these things, including Christians, are very susceptible to New Age influences. Just take a look at Rick Warren.
The information is ABSOLUTELY stored! All applications through iPhones, iTouches, iPads, etc store some forms of info. As to whether or not the info is sold, I would very carefully read all of the terms of service as well as any others terms referenced by it. If it is being sold there will be a reference to third party applications of some form regarding the info.
However, even if it doesn't have such a reference, this does not mean you are 100% safe. Unless it specifically states all info is kept private and/or confidential, you have a problem. As what typically happens is they tend to change the terms with little or vague notice of doing so. (see Facebook)
Thanks for the Dalai Lama information! That had missed my radar up to reading your post. He has long had a most significant role in international New Age / New World Religion circles.
Re 7:48 a.m. You are right, it does look most disturbingly like "kundalini force manifestations" or perhaps more accurately POSSESSION. In looking at that and related videos, I came upon another ministry of this sort, Steve Foss, which has much to alarm me on his own site, www.stevefoss.com.
An online Catholic TV show dubbed the Catholic Investigative Agency (CIA) dedicated a recent episode to exposing the Rockefeller
Foundation’s ties to eugenics groups, population-control advocates, efforts at global governance, pro-abortion activities, and other highly controversial subjects.
The program, run by Catholic media personality Michael Voris, also highlights the Rockefeller dynasty’s assault against the church — one of the primary opponents of Rockefeller-backed schemes. From the Foundation’s efforts to “purify” humanity by manipulating the gene pool to population-control campaigns aimed at reducing the number of people on Earth, the Rockefellers’ agenda has been consistently at odds with church teachings.
The thesis of the CIA episode is presented early on. “The Rockefeller Foundation is actively undermining the Catholic Church and in the process attempting to erase man’s natural orientation to the eternal,” the show explains. Indeed, after watching the program, that fact becomes obvious.
South Africa supports dear brother leader in Libya-look what ANC academia says at home in SA! (was a lecture at UNISA)
Not sure if any of you realize that SA has been upgraded by Genocide Watch to Level 6. There are 8 levels.
Another revolution to follow the Arab spring? We must remember that dear brother leader bank rolled(or still is)lots of ventures in SA! Also in Africa.
THANK YOU. I have the deepest of respect for MICHAEL VORIS. I once spoke, at his invitation, at one of his seminars to present information on the New Age Movement. He does fine work and is well motivated.
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And what else does Michael Voris say:
n a recent episode, Michael Voris lays out the “Real Catholic” position on “Jews and Judaism” — a rather complex theological topic, as most people are aware. According to Voris:
"The Jews who accepted him became the Church. The Jews who rejected Him .. having voted themselves OUT of the covenant .. went off and started a man made religion. Rabbinical Judaism (today’s Jewish religion) is to authentic Judaism what Protestantism is to Catholicism."
So, I guess in his eyes the Protestants and Jews follow some man made inauthentic religions.
Well, he's entitled to his opinion as uninformed as it is. He sounds more like a rabblerouser than an academic.
His information on the New Age movement is quite shallow. It appears to equate with what his followers want to think the New Age movement is. It really wouldn't trouble anyone in power in the New Age movement. For him information about the New Age movement is a business.
I came across this website doing some research. It's interesting to see how much information is gathered behind the obvious surface we see.
Since it's openly on the internet and is nothing confidential, I do believe you won't be bothered by my posting this link Constance.
I agree that Voris is not an academic. The fact that he asked people to leave the parishes if they disagree with the pastor's personal views, says a lot about his actual knowledge of Catholic theology.
It's an old saying...the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.
And, as Constance said many, many years ago when she got it from one of them...they have something for everyone.
Maybe I'm just very cynical, but because I've been taken in I check out everything that I can. With the internet it's much easier than it was in the past.
It's very human to want to trust people who seem to think as we do. It's a search for community.
If you didn't read the comments at the site, you should. One of them said,
"And I was flat out agog at the video arguing the “only” appropriate form of government for Catholics was the “benevolent dictatorship” (his words) of a Catholic monarch. Then there was the argument that democratic government can’t work because the franchise cannot be limited to faithful Catholics alone."
http://nobility.org/what-they-say-2/ A study of TFP, an organization that sounds like what Voris is selling.
I didn't bring these things up. I found Catholics who disagree with Voris who brought them up.
How does one hate the sin and love the sinner if sin is just a result of the imperfection of not being "evolved" enough to know better?
Not my philosophy but one going around in New Age circles.
It sounds to me the minister you are talking about is or is a product of Rodney Howard-Browne. He started what has been known as the laughter reivival in Toronto known as the "Toronto Blessing" back in 1995. His so called revival has gone through 7000 churches in Hong Kong, Australia, Norway, Canada, South Africa and here in the United States. His home church is called The River in Tampa Bay, FL. One time I saw him on TBN with Kenneth Copeland and they were talking back and forth to each other in tongues. I personally think he has the same hypnotic power in audiences that Benjamin Creme has. Just a wave of the hand. You did good by getting out of there when you could. Rodney Browne is now doing the "Great Awakening Tour" he also calls the "Great Shake-up".
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