My perspective -- What Constance thinks

Borntowatch.com already beat me to this one, I see. I went to their site and see it was featured about three stories down. Scott Herrmann and partner must not get any sleep at all. They are truly watching as we all should be!

Constance
 

More ominous news about the Russian - Iranian - Solana and company consortium from BORNTOWATCH.COM. Their source is DEBKA:

"Moscow and Tehran have announced that the nuclear reactor Russia is building Iran at Bushehr has completed all its test-runs and will be up and running in early September - ahead of schedule.

Debkafile's military sources have repeatedly reported that the Iranian reactor at Bushehr is not just a power plant but also has military applications. Chief among them is the reuse of its fuel rods to produce plutonium as atomic weapon fuel."
 

Yes, I think last year when he left they said he would stay on as the 5+1 Iranian negotiator. It was kind of buried amidst all the other news of him retiring though.

Leana
 

In case you are wondering what Solana is going to do now it was announced back in February that Solana is going to work for the Brookings Institute:

http://www.brookings.edu/media/NewsReleases/2010/0209_solana.aspx

Here is his Brookings' page

http://www.brookings.edu/experts/solanaj.aspx
 

Ok my last exhortation to the saints. This site (not so much the site as the comments as I'm sure Constance is a good Christian lady with a good heart) is a pandora's box of animosity towards Catholicism, nit picking speck-in-my-neighbour's-eyes attitude (Craig), people bogged down in sola scriptura (same person), people believing in a physical rapture of the Church (i.e. the people making up that Church), belief in the doctrine of "once saved always saved" (a doctrine that bears Satan's seal of approval), in short a Tower of Babel.This is really bad oecumenism. Solana, Creme, Freemasons and the like are all Satan's paws actively and tirelessly putting one brick at a time to build a platform on which AC and the false Church will stand, but it can be a long process. God's economy is above us and for all we know AC might not appear before another 30-40 years maybe. In one of Craig's replies to me he wrote (paraphrasing): IF I'm correct, it COULD, it COULD POSSIBLY IF, it MIGHT PERHAPS... Where does that lead us? Peace and God's blessings to all Christians of good will around here.
 

JUST A HINT OF THINGS TO COME? A PREVIEW OF THE COMING 'MARK OF THE BEAST'?

Swipe, smile, blow: Pennsylvania. has wine vending machines

HARRISBURG, Pa. — Swipe your driver's license, look into the camera, blow into the breath sensor and — voila! — you have permission to buy a bottle of wine from a vending machine.

To read more...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap
/article/ALeqM5iNSc82rttw43rBj0V93
dMzho-oMwD9GQVU3G0
 

In case any of you missed seeing this, here is the Antichrist Maitreya's commercial (run by Benjamin Creme) as shown on both CNN and the History Channel...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViVI
7cMZoD8&feature=related
 

46 U.S. Warships Plus 7,000 U.S. Marines On Route to Costa Rica?

http://www.welovecostarica.com/publ
ic/46_US_Warships_Plus_7000
_US_Marines_On_Route_To_Costa_Rica.
cfm
 

46 U.S. Warships Plus 7,000 U.S. Marines On Route to Costa Rica?

http://www.welovecostarica.com/publ
ic/46_US_Warships_Plus_7000
_US_Marines_On_Route_To_Costa_Rica.
cfm
 

Anon. 12:33,

Then, why are you wasting your time here? If all the postings and discussions are meaningless to you, then why do you persist on coming here. You won't stop anyone else here from coming here. I believe the information is valuable and insightful.

It's been quite warm here in Michigan recently. It's almost hard to imagine that less than six months ago I was shoveling snow (well, using a snowblower). In the summer it's hard to imagine everything covered in snow and ice. It's hard to imagine the leaves on the trees changing color.

But, eventually autumn will be here, the leaves will change color, and yes, there will eventually be snow. I can't tell you when the first snowfall will be this upcoming winter or how much will fall. However, it will be here. Do I even want to think about snow, no way. But, it will be here.
 

BP's Environmental Mess In Nevada

http://www.8
newsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=
12764008
 

Prophecy proof,

That almost reads like a cover letter.
 

Alex Jones Infowars video linked on Drudge Report this morning. This is a huge boost for Jones and the info he puts out.

VISITS TO DRUDGE 7/08/10

027,127,781 IN PAST 24 HOURS
787,158,507 IN PAST 31 DAYS
8,515,340,447 IN PAST YEAR
 

Dear Prophecy Proof:

For the Brookings Institution and about everything else -- Crisis Research Group, a university, etc., etc. He has been touring with Strobe Talbott, president of the Brookings Institution. This 6+1 assignment however is representing COUNTRIES and on behalf of those countries and not the Brookings Institution.

Constance
 

I am reading 'The Islamic AntiChrist'. Although I have followed Constance and her counterparts for years, I am wondering where Islam's Mahdi & 'their' Jesus fits in to Javier Solana & Company? The parallels for the AntiChrist & False Prophet of the Bible & the Mahdi & the Muslim Jesus in the Qu'ran are too close for comfort and much to similar to ignore.
Any insights on how the NAM & Islam fit into the end times picture?

~Curious~
 

"On the 2nd July 2010 the Costa Rica Congress authorized the entry of 46 U.S. warships capable of carrying 200 helicopters and warplanes, plus 7,000 U.S. Marines "who may circulate the country in uniform without any restrictions" , plus submarine killer ships to the Costa Rican coast for "anti-narcotics operations and humanitarian missions' between 1st July 2010 until 31st December 2010."

This sounds really strange. Humanitarian efforts in Costa Rica?

Minister of Public Security Jose Maria Tijerino stressed that this huge, powerful military force would be under the command of the US Coast Guard and not the US Navy.

US COAST GUARD? Red flag!

My guess is that this has more to do with being strategically located near the Gulf of Mexico and Panama Canal then anything going on in Costa Rica. Defense of more rigs? Looking for Korean subs? Russian subs? Iranian missiles on Korean subs? Evacuations? Disaster? Getting ready for the big explosion?

Any other guesses out there?

http://www.welovecostarica.com/publ
ic/46_US_Warships_Plus_7000
_US_Marines_On_Route_To_Costa_Rica.
cfm

YG
 

What is so disturbing about this military buildup in Costa Rica is that more and more of America's senior citizens have chosen to pick up and move out of the United States to live out their retirement years in that beautiful country. It was always considered to be a 'paradise' - with a mild climate, low cost of living, low crime rate, stable government, and very friendly people.
 

Maybe the military build up in Costa Rica is actually more about attempts to oust Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega.
 

I once knew someone who loved to argue. Unfortunately, I would end up playing into her hands and argue back. When I learned not to play into it any longer, the arguments ceased. I no longer associate with this person as "bad character corrupts good morals." Sometimes, however, being human and still having the old sin nature, I succumb. Hopefully, now I've learned it for good!
 

Craig, for the sake of Christian harmony, let's move on, shall we? Besides, no-one should ever take too seriously someone who writes "Devil's paws"(sic)instead of Devil's pawns;) No hard feelings I hope.
 

Regarding the Anti-Christ; the Ante-Nicene Fathers tended to view him as coming from the tribe of Dan, and that it would be he who would initiate the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem. If indeed this is correct, then an Islamic man as the Anti-Christ seems out of the question.
 

Remember when Constance Cumbey was pointing out that Yugoslavia was under attack by the EU, the US and the UN because its people were very stubborn and religious? They were considered a source of trouble by the One World Blenders because they wouldn't be going along. Israel in their eyes is another problem because its people are stubborn.

(Beginning of link) http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/ has an update.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/07/julia-gorin-on-theonce-again-no-one-is---watching-the-supposedly-momentous-trial-of-yet-another-supposed-butcher-of-the.html

http://tinyurl.com/2vcswmt
Nuremberg II: **Crickets Chirping** in Newsrooms Across the World
"Huge props to Julia Gorin, who is keeping Atlas readers updated on the exposure of the lies and libels used to demonize the Serbs and lure the US into fighting with Muslims against the Christians in the Balkans.
"For more on the so-called “Siege of Sarajevo,” and on Muslim crimes being ascribed to Serbs, please see “Civilian Death Toll of Sarajevo ‘Siege’ Grossly Overstated.”

In case readers need reminding as to just why Bosnia is so important and why the Karadzic trial needs to be followed, especially after Americans passed on the opportunity to follow the Milosevic trial, here is a quote from writer Jonathan Freedland in 2005 in the UK Guardian, two weeks after the 7/7 attacks. His article was titled “It’s not only about Iraq”:

Tellingly, those who monitor Islamism in Britain say the big surge in growth of extremist groups came not after 9/11 or Iraq but in the mid-1990s - with Bosnia serving as the recruiting sergeant. In the same period Chechnya, Kosovo and Israel-Palestine all came into play - again predating Iraq.

It is also worth understanding that America’s favorite region to ignore, the Balkans, is a jihadist beachhead. For, once they have the Balkans they will have Europe. Moamar Gaddafi understands this perfectly well." (More at the link)

Any fool who believes the latest lies Obama is spouting about how special Israel is to him needs to take a good long look at what happened in Yugoslavia. It is not just Obama. He is a puppet of much larger forces.
 

Should have signed it.
Dorothy

Side note: I keep getting a Google message saying the post is too large to process, yet it appears on the thread.
 

I just saw a news story on KATU channel 2 from Portland, Oregon about a little pooch reunited with owners after being lost and found 1300 miles from home. The puppy had an I.D. chip implanted and a vet 1300 miles away read the chip implant with a reader and got all the owners info and the dog is back home in Hillsboro, Oregon. You can go to KATU.com and click on the headline and I will attempt to give you the actual site for the news story. I printed it out. Here it is.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98138134.html.
John Rupp
 

YG 3:08,

The blogs are full of speculation, take your pick. Such a large military force under the command of the U.S. Coast Guard is very unusual, to say the least. My first thought was security of the Panama Canal if Iran is hit, or North Korea threatens to go ballistic. But why the Coast Guard and not the Navy? Very unusual that such a force is flying under the radar. The drug interdiction cover story is weak. Something bigger is afoot.
 

Toxicologists: Corexit “Ruptures Red Blood Cells, Causes Internal Bleeding”, "Allows Crude Oil To Penetrate “Into The Cells” and “Every Organ System"

http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2010/07/toxicologists-corexit-ruptures-red.html
 

Anon 12:33

For as much nit-picking that you claim is done against catholicism, it is returned measure for measure against protestants. In fact, you claiming that those of us here are bogged down in sola scriptura or the rapture are succumbing to the devil is just as insulting. Back in the old days we used to say "It's a free country and I'll believe what I want to believe"

I really don't feel like arguing with you either. Just by insulting my beliefs, and others here, you are not convincing me of the rightness of yours.

Perhaps those comments were better left to yourself, as they did nothing but further divide and distract those participating in the conversation on the New Age Movement, European polictics and current events.
 

How your Apple iPhone spies on you:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo
gy/apple/7880155/How-your-Apple-
iPhone-spies-on-you.html
 

Anon @9:23 p.m.

Are you new around there? There's plenty of Protestants attacking Catholicism that's been done here in the past. I do agree that this should not distract us from the topic at hand.


Savvy
 

This is from a Gnostic magazine

Homosexuality, bisexuality, and androgyny. It is generally understood that at the non-physical level, people are not limited to their bodily gender. Jesus declared in the Gnostic scriptures that he “came to make the male and the female into a single one, so that the male will not be male and the female not be female.” We may take this to mean that in order to attain to the Wholeness of the Pleroma, all persons are striving toward a spiritual androgyny. In the hyletic phase of development this often manifests as polymorphous bisexuality, in the psychic phase as homosexuality, and in the pneumatic phase it moves increasingly into the area of a spiritually based androgyny. None of these are sinful or should be condemned in Gnostic thinking. The idea of a “crime against nature” is meaningless to the Gnostic, for our nature is not merely physical nature, such as our gender, but our total nature within which all dualities exist.

When asked about homosexuality, the great modern Gnostic C.G. Jung merely said: “Well, they are the only people who are trying doing something against over-population.”

The attraction of persons of the same gender toward each other meets with the most powerful taboos of the patriarchal-psychic phases of cultural development and is therefore encumbered by many unnecessary ideas and apprehensions.
Birth control and abortion. Anthropologists have noted that agricultural societies tend to be opposed to the limiting of births, while nomadic-pastoral societies encourage the same. Many great religions came to adopt the mythos of the agricultural societies and have proscribed birth control and abortion. The theological justification brought forth in support of the position of these religions is more or less to the effect that the prevention of birth is a contravention of the will of God. Many religions believe that a distinct soul is attached to every foetus at conception and that therefore the destruction of the foetus is murder. This idea is highly speculative and, like all theological notions, not subject to any evidence. The Gnostic traditions hold that the soul’s connection with the foetus is minimal until the seventh month of pregnancy. The obsessive fury of various religionists in our days against both birth control and abortion ought to elicit no sympathy from Gnostics. It is obvious that the more conscious humanity becomes, the more it will exercise conscious control over the size of families and the less it will be inclined to place innumerable offspring heedlessly onto an overpopulated earth. That people simply ought to become sexually inactive when not desiring offspring is a notion that is as silly as it is unrealistic.

http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/eros-gn...


Savvy
 

This is from a Gnostic magazine

Homosexuality, bisexuality, and androgyny. It is generally understood that at the non-physical level, people are not limited to their bodily gender. Jesus declared in the Gnostic scriptures that he “came to make the male and the female into a single one, so that the male will not be male and the female not be female.” We may take this to mean that in order to attain to the Wholeness of the Pleroma, all persons are striving toward a spiritual androgyny. In the hyletic phase of development this often manifests as polymorphous bisexuality, in the psychic phase as homosexuality, and in the pneumatic phase it moves increasingly into the area of a spiritually based androgyny. None of these are sinful or should be condemned in Gnostic thinking. The idea of a “crime against nature” is meaningless to the Gnostic, for our nature is not merely physical nature, such as our gender, but our total nature within which all dualities exist.

When asked about homosexuality, the great modern Gnostic C.G. Jung merely said: “Well, they are the only people who are trying doing something against over-population.”

The attraction of persons of the same gender toward each other meets with the most powerful taboos of the patriarchal-psychic phases of cultural development and is therefore encumbered by many unnecessary ideas and apprehensions.
Birth control and abortion. Anthropologists have noted that agricultural societies tend to be opposed to the limiting of births, while nomadic-pastoral societies encourage the same. Many great religions came to adopt the mythos of the agricultural societies and have proscribed birth control and abortion. The theological justification brought forth in support of the position of these religions is more or less to the effect that the prevention of birth is a contravention of the will of God. Many religions believe that a distinct soul is attached to every foetus at conception and that therefore the destruction of the foetus is murder. This idea is highly speculative and, like all theological notions, not subject to any evidence. The Gnostic traditions hold that the soul’s connection with the foetus is minimal until the seventh month of pregnancy. The obsessive fury of various religionists in our days against both birth control and abortion ought to elicit no sympathy from Gnostics. It is obvious that the more conscious humanity becomes, the more it will exercise conscious control over the size of families and the less it will be inclined to place innumerable offspring heedlessly onto an overpopulated earth. That people simply ought to become sexually inactive when not desiring offspring is a notion that is as silly as it is unrealistic.

http://tiny.cc/v2tbv


Savvy
 

Sorry about the double post.


Savvy
 

anonymous 9:44PM,
Thank you for the link on the Apple Iphone and how it spies on you. That is very interesting.
 

Bravo, Constance on your post.

I am aware that you are already well tuned in to Solana's "new best friend," Strobe Talbot.

In a 1998 article entitled STROBE TALBOTT: RUSSIA'S MAN IN WASHINGTON by Kenneth R. Timmerman, we read:

Missiles for Iran

A mistaken sense of priorities also characterizes Talbott's handling of Russia's transfer of missile technology to Iran, an issue he has tried to sweep under the rug for more than a year. Because of U.S. inaction, the CIA now believes the Iranians will be able to field an entire arsenal of long-range missiles equipped with chemical, biological, and possibly nuclear warheads within 12 to 18 months. If they succeed, those missiles will have Strobe Talbott's name written all over them.....read more....

http://www.iran.org/tib/krt/strobe.htm
 

All,

I want to let every one know (proud Daddy crowing) that my little girl Alexandra Lee was born 7/8/2010 at 8:43pm. I know a couple of comments were directed my way over the last couple days, I will reply to them as soon as I can. Thanks to all who offered support in the form of prayers for my family. All is well, and I now have a beautiful, healthy baby girl.
 

CONGRATULATIONS TO JD AND WIFE ON THE BIRTH OF THEIR BEAUTIFUL NEW BABY GIRL!

CONSTANCE
 

Is Susanna on vacation? I miss her comments?

Constance
 

JD,
Praise God from whom all
blessings flow.
Praise Him all creatures
here below
Praise Him all of ye heavenly
host
Praise Father Son and Holy Ghost

Congratulations !
 

Anon 9:23, to me sola scriptura and the rapture of the Church are
1-wrong way of reading the Scriptures 2-a grossly unwarranted inference, not doctrines of demons. Please read twice and don't misquote me. Don't rekindle flames of division. "Once saved, always saved" however is a totally different issue as it gives people a false sense of security and it can cause them to disregard morals and sin, and yes it was carefully crafted in the very depths of the pits of hell. The other two, to me, are the results of using wrong filters, as it were.
 

Agie95:

I wanted to let you know that I've begun viewing the "slideshow" of Daniel & Revelation on the fishhouse site. It has been revealing, to use a pun. I've learned some new things, for example, the possibility that Jesus' actual birth was approx. 7 years before it is commonly reported making Him 40 at his crucifixion.

So far, I'm on slide 33; and, Skolfield has helped confirm and/or clarify some of my "independent" observations on reading certain texts in Revelation [The two witnesses (as you've mentioned before), and the meaning of Rev 10:6-7]. While I'm not sure where he's going with this just yet [I don't have precognition ;-)], I can see where he may help me confirm some of my other views. One of these is my working hypothesis regarding the Seven Seals.

Apparently, Roman custom was that wills were sealed sometimes multiple times, some even seven times. Could it be then that Jesus was reading his own "will" -- a declaration of what was to come in the seven seals of chapter 6? This would be a preterist view of the seals in that the reading/decreeing of them by Jesus either had already occurred when John had his vision (this part of the vision was past) or John was actually seeing it in real time.

With this view in mind, the first four seals began very soon after they were opened and are continuing to this day. The white horse would be the "conqueror" whose conquest is by false religion -- Satan masquerading as an angel of light. Certainly, there has never been peace on earth; and, paying a day's wages (black horse) for food has happened in different cultures throughout time including today.

I had always had a problem with the sixth seal especially as it has aspects of some of the trumpets and bowls. Specifically, verses 6:12-13 are similar to 8:12 and 6:14-17 compare to 16:20-21 & 19:18. With language like "The sky receded like a scroll..." [NIV], this sounds like the very end. With no sky how would there be an earth as we know it?

So then, could it be that these seals are an overview of what was to come with the trumpets and bowls/vials the more specific illustration of some of these still future events at the time of John's writing?

Thanks for the link. May the Holy Spirit guide us in all Truth.
 

Dear DJ
God's blessings on your family and the new arrival of your little baby girl Alexandra Lee. What joy to all that love her.
 

Dorothy,

Thanks for the heads up on the Atlas Shrugs article.

I have just finished reading The False Prophet , by Ellis Skolfield downloadable online at http://www.fishhouseministries.com/
and I am now convinced that The False Prophet is Muhammed/Islam.

We tend to focus a lot of time and energy here on Javier Solana, but in truth I don't believe in a single man as antichrist. An antichrist is anyone or anything that is against god, and there have been many, many antichrists throughout history, as we all know.

The threat of the spread of Islam, Christianity's mortal enemy, has been swept under the carpet for many years now, and with the current administration it is increasingly obvious that America is in bed with the Moslem Brotherhood. Here's a comment from the link that Dorothy provided:

"A newbie on this topic needs to comprehend the following, which I think is best documented by Carl Savich: there is a global movement to lie about Islam and hide the fact that the same Muslim Brotherhood that advises the Whitehouse on US policy also fought for Adolf Hitler during WWII.

This is hidden because once these facts are known and studied, the big-lie campaign waged against Israel and Serbia entirely collapses.

The US is at the forefront of this big-lie campaign, and thus all news and history generated in the US slanders Serbs and all Jews that dare defend other Jews."

Someone I'd like to bring to everyone's attention is the National Security Advisor to the Obama administration, General Jim Jones. If this man has been discussed before, I apologize, as I have only returned to this blog rather recently.

Jones has a very interesting history, but a couple things stand out as I read information about him.

1.He spent his formative years in France
2.He attended Georgetown University,
3.He was made Supreme Allied Commander Europe on 17 January 2003
4.He was appointed Chief of Staff, Joint Task Force Provide Promise, for operations in Bosnia-Herzegovina and Macedonia,
5.He champions the idea of breaking the deadlock between Israelis and Palestinians by introducing an American plan for a two-state solution — an idea opposed by most Israeli leaders (link below)
6.He is in bed with big oil and is/was president and chief executive officer of the U.S. Chamber Institute for 21st Century Energy,
7.He's been accused of being anti-Semitic(link below)
8.He answers, in his own words, to Henry Kissinger.

Coincidence? He's the national security adviser so is it any wonder that Islam is advancing its agenda in this country as Americans sleep?

Truth is obvious. Obama's administration is anti-Israel and pro-Islam. It is anti-Christian (just ask my son who did not get the $8,000 first time home-buyer credit promised by the gov't because of a marriage penalty written into the law!) and is on the fast track to destroy the last vestiges of what was once a great country through socialism and fascism.

Sorry this is so long, but I have just spent the last week reading The Last Prophet (which I think everyone should try to read with an open mind), as well as the bible and history books along side it to verify what I was reading in Skolfield's book.

The followers of Islam will not be satisfied until every person in the world is under Sharia Law and many of us here will most probably lose our lives for our belief in Jesus.

Reading Mr. Skolfied's book along with recalling world history through the timeline of the bible has opened my eyes to the danger that is all around us. While I must admit that I don't agree with everything he has said in his book, the timelines are amazing. According to the book, The Dome of the Rock is the abomination of Desolation and if you only read to that point, I think you'll find it worth the effort.

Links to follow.

YG
 

Dorothy,

Thanks for the heads up on the Atlas Shrugs article.

I have just finished reading The False Prophet , by Ellis Skolfield downloadable online at http://www.fishhouseministries.com/
and I am now convinced that The False Prophet is Muhammed/Islam.

We tend to focus a lot of time and energy here on Javier Solana, but in truth I don't believe in a single man as antichrist. An antichrist is anyone or anything that is against god, and there have been many, many antichrists throughout history, as we all know.

The threat of the spread of Islam, Christianity's mortal enemy, has been swept under the carpet for many years now, and with the current administration it is increasingly obvious that America is in bed with the Moslem Brotherhood. Here's a comment from the link that Dorothy provided:

"A newbie on this topic needs to comprehend the following, which I think is best documented by Carl Savich: there is a global movement to lie about Islam and hide the fact that the same Muslim Brotherhood that advises the Whitehouse on US policy also fought for Adolf Hitler during WWII.

This is hidden because once these facts are known and studied, the big-lie campaign waged against Israel and Serbia entirely collapses.

The US is at the forefront of this big-lie campaign, and thus all news and history generated in the US slanders Serbs and all Jews that dare defend other Jews."

Someone I'd like to bring to everyone's attention is the National Security Advisor to the Obama administration, General Jim Jones. If this man has been discussed before, I apologize, as I have only returned to this blog rather recently.

Jones has a very interesting history, but a couple things stand out as I read information about him.

1.He spent his formative years in France
2.He attended Georgetown University,
3.He was made Supreme Allied Commander Europe on 17 January 2003
4.He was appointed Chief of Staff, Joint Task Force Provide Promise, for operations in Bosnia-Herzegovina and Macedonia,
5.He champions the idea of breaking the deadlock between Israelis and Palestinians by introducing an American plan for a two-state solution — an idea opposed by most Israeli leaders (link below)
6.He is in bed with big oil and is/was president and chief executive officer of the U.S. Chamber Institute for 21st Century Energy,
7.He's been accused of being anti-Semitic(link below)
8.He answers, in his own words, to Henry Kissinger.

Coincidence? He's the national security adviser so is it any wonder that Islam is advancing its agenda in this country as Americans sleep?

Truth is obvious. Obama's administration is anti-Israel and pro-Islam. It is anti-Christian (just ask my son who did not get the $8,000 first time home-buyer credit promised by the gov't because of a marriage penalty written into the law!) and is on the fast track to destroy the last vestiges of what was once a great country through socialism and fascism.

Sorry this is so long, but I have just spent the last week reading The Last Prophet (which I think everyone should try to read with an open mind), as well as the bible and history books along side it to verify what I was reading in Skolfield's book.

The followers of Islam will not be satisfied until every person in the world is under Sharia Law and many of us here will most probably lose our lives for our belief in Jesus.

(To be con't )

YG
 

Dorothy,

Thanks for the heads up on the Atlas Shrugs article.

I have just finished reading The False Prophet , by Ellis Skolfield downloadable online at http://www.fishhouseministries.com/
and I am now convinced that The False Prophet is Muhammed/Islam.

We tend to focus a lot of time and energy here on Javier Solana, but in truth I don't believe in a single man as antichrist. An antichrist is anyone or anything that is against god, and there have been many, many antichrists throughout history, as we all know.

The threat of the spread of Islam, Christianity's mortal enemy, has been swept under the carpet for many years now, and with the current administration it is increasingly obvious that America is in bed with the Moslem Brotherhood. Here's a comment from the link that Dorothy provided:

"A newbie on this topic needs to comprehend the following, which I think is best documented by Carl Savich: there is a global movement to lie about Islam and hide the fact that the same Muslim Brotherhood that advises the Whitehouse on US policy also fought for Adolf Hitler during WWII.

This is hidden because once these facts are known and studied, the big-lie campaign waged against Israel and Serbia entirely collapses.

The US is at the forefront of this big-lie campaign, and thus all news and history generated in the US slanders Serbs and all Jews that dare defend other Jews."

Someone I'd like to bring to everyone's attention is the National Security Advisor to the Obama administration, General Jim Jones. If this man has been discussed before, I apologize, as I have only returned to this blog rather recently.

Jones has a very interesting history, but a couple things stand out as I read information about him.

1.He spent his formative years in France
2.He attended Georgetown University,
3.He was made Supreme Allied Commander Europe on 17 January 2003
4.He was appointed Chief of Staff, Joint Task Force Provide Promise, for operations in Bosnia-Herzegovina and Macedonia,
5.He champions the idea of breaking the deadlock between Israelis and Palestinians by introducing an American plan for a two-state solution — an idea opposed by most Israeli leaders (link below)
6.He is in bed with big oil and is/was president and chief executive officer of the U.S. Chamber Institute for 21st Century Energy,
7.He's been accused of being anti-Semitic(link below)
8.He answers, in his own words, to Henry Kissinger.

Coincidence? He's the national security adviser so is it any wonder that Islam is advancing its agenda in this country as Americans sleep?

Truth is obvious. Obama's administration is anti-Israel and pro-Islam. It is anti-Christian (just ask my son who did not get the $8,000 first time home-buyer credit promised by the gov't because of a marriage penalty written into the law!) and is on the fast track to destroy the last vestiges of what was once a great country through socialism and fascism.

Sorry this is so long, but I have just spent the last week reading The Last Prophet (which I think everyone should try to read with an open mind), as well as the bible and history books along side it to verify what I was reading in Skolfield's book.

The followers of Islam will not be satisfied until every person in the world is under Sharia Law and many of us here will most probably lose our lives for our belief in Jesus.

(To be con't )

YG
 

Sorry about the double and triple post. My computer just went nuts and interestingly the word verification that came up was "alla"

Here's some links on General Jim Jones:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/nsc/nsa/

http://www.jhuapl.edu/POW/bios/jones.htm

http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=6352

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1984994,00.html#ixzz0tI1xvw61

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1984994,00.html



PS: I am now also looking at the evidence that the oil rig was deliberately sabotaged through BP's web-like connections to banks and global government , especially through people like General Jim Jones. I feel this was done deliberately to further America's dependence on foreign (Moslem) oil, even as we have tried to become independent of it. We'll see if the judges' ruling ending the moratorium on drilling will last, now that the public becomes increasingly outraged at the outright destruction of the Gulf of Mexico and Charlie Crist has joined the fray.

YG
 

Craig and Agie95,

I must say that the chapter that was most important to me in the entire book was the chapter on the timeless covenant. Pastors and scholars have skirted around interpreting that for years, but Skolfield's was the most beautiful explanation that I have ever read, and gives a whole new meaning in my heart to the grafting of the Gentiles to the olive tree. It also shows that the spiritual blindness of the Jews (in recognizing Jesus as Messiah) had to be in order for the Gentile (Christian) church to be saved. In effect, the Jews have suffered blindness over the centuries so that the Christians could be saved, because of God's love for us, and them. Wow!

Romans: 24-31
After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:

“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”

As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies on your account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

YG
 

People have thought that it was unusual that America has not had any terrorist attacks since 9/11. The more I think about it, the greatest and most brilliant Jihad ever committed was perpetrated upon this country in November 2008.

ON June 6, 1967 Israel won back Jerusalem. Since then millions of Jews have returned to their homeland. If 1967 marked the end of "the time of the Gentiles" than we are certainly in the last generation. It is important to look at our president in terms of bible prophecy and this is a good article to remind us how anti-Israel he is in spite of the fake smiles last week.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aEP544wnhrIJ:www.bibleprophecyupdate.com/%3Fp%3D2959+israel+1967+freedom+bible+prophecy&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

or http://tinyurl.com/25tkfps
 

Dear JD,
Congratulations on your new baby girl Alexandra Lee. That is really exciting news! May God richly bless you and your family.
John
 

If the false prophet was Mohammed then the beast is the world government system (NWO) that is currently allowing Islam to flourish and grow like wildfire throughout the world. Regarding the fourth beast in Daniel 7:25 we read:

Daniel 7:25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.

Islam follows a different calendar and follows Sharia law.

I can only wonder if this build-up of ships in south America and the Persian gulf is in preparation for World War 3.
 

YG, I would be interested in hearing what parts you had a hard time believing. I really like the chapter on the timeless covenant as well. I am still having a hard time with the 70th Week part. I have reached out to a Jewish Rabbi on Aisha.com to see if he can help clarify some things in Daniel 9:24-27. I hope to hear back soon. The other issue I have is the 1335 days. Still chewing on that one.

I will reiterate that everyone should read "The False Prophet", "Bifids & Chiasms", and "Daniel's 70th Week" on www.fishhouseministries.com. If you are not amazed then I do not know what will amaze you.
 

Congratulations, JD!!

Praise the Lord for a safe delivery and healthy Mom and Baby.

"Hope deferred makes the heart sick, But when the desire comes, it is a tree of life."--Proverbs 13:12

I know this is truly a "tree of life" for you and your wife. Many blessings!

It's a busy time for babies. We have two in our extended families on their way at this very moment!
 

The New Age movement was a way to destroy the church from within, as Constance has shown many times over. The poverty that many Christian Americans are feeling for the first time in their lives is affecting their ability to tithe. Churches are closing by the dozens on a daily basis- this was planned, too, and will only get worse in this current economy.

As we can see here on this blog by the unfortunate bickering between Catholics and evangelicals, Satan is having a hey-day with the churches in these last days.

For me, I am more and more believing that the best we can do in these times is go back to the methods of the early church-create small cell groups in our own homes where we can pray and read the bible on our own.

Just a thought.
 

Agie 95,

The part that was unclear was the chapter on the Leopard, Bear, Lion and the references to Daniel 7. He seems to say that Hitler was the little horn of the fourth beast, but then in discussing Daniel 7:25 he refers to Islam, so that part was confusing for me.

I felt the explanation of the two witnesses makes complete sense and that in view of the condition of today's churches, the time of the Gentiles is indeed over. Interestingly, according to Skolfield, 1967 marked the end of the time of the Gentiles. That certainly was the beginning of a huge acceleration of the NAM through the promoting of the Age of Aquarius, and the beginning of the end for what were once many good, mainstream churches.

I also completely agree with the last trumpet being the LAST trumpet. It never made sense to me that the end times Christians would be spared from being martyred when they weren't spared in the past.

Anyhow, my husband is reading it now and I am also passing it along to another Christian who is pre-trib for his comments. In the end, we'll all do a bible study together on it, and at that time I'll take a better look at all the timelines. But from a first glance, the explanations of time, times and half a time, and hours and days and weeks as they translate into lunar time with Daniel and solar time with the prophet John, seem sensible to me.

Actually, it is the only book I've ever read on the subject that makes sense to me. He wrote the book in 2001, when he was obviously overwhelmed and influenced by 9/11. I wonder what new insights he might have had over the last 9 years?

YG
 

I tend to agree that Mo-Islam
could be the False Prophet, but
I don't think it's wise to ignore
the fact that Revelations
specifically says that the number
of the beast is the number of
"A MAN", not just the general
term for all things anti Christ.
Paul also says that even now
there are many anti Christs,
but it's only to point out that
in the end times there would be
a man who would embody the
devil himself and would oppose
all things Christ-like.
And Daniel tells us that there's
going to be a man and he's
going to be a little horn
speaking great blasphemy
against the one true God and
his Son, Jesus.
 

Anon 8:50

whether you believe sola scriptura is wrong or inadequate, that's just your belief, so you really can't argue it, it's just a belief. I feel it's a safer bet to not be deceived by men's doctrines, but to use just the inspired word of God. Using scripture to interpret scripture makes more sense then having someone tell you what it means.

However, the rapture is not just an inference. It's a theological word to describe "caught up" which is not inferred but explicitly taught by Paul and John in the Bible. Unless you don't read Revelation where it speaks of the child of the woman being "caught up" the two witnesses being "caught up" and in Thessalonians the church being "caught up". If you add to that the "being changed in a twinkling of an eye, the mortal putting on immortality" from Corinthians you'll be able to see the context of the rapture.
 

Constance, Terri, Paul, Jen, John, and others,

Thank you all so very much. Allie is a wonderful blessing to us. Just to be able to listen to her squall fills me with joy.
 

Dear anonymous 2:09 Just to be clear, are you referring to the physical rapture before or while AC is waging war against the saints (Left Behind Series type or what Jack Van Impe professes)? If so it would seem to be a doctrine of men, which you so abhor. It traces back to preacher/pastor John Darby, who founded the Brethren of Plymouth. Interestingly, Aleister Crowley's family were ardent followers of their teachings. Please don't infer anything from the last sentence as I thought it was just noteworthy, not a telling connection. Please, let's leave it at that; we could have theological arguments until we're blue in the face/ Christ's return, whichever comes first.
 

JD:

CONGRATS to you and yours on your baby girl! :-)
 

YG/Agie95:

I've not gotten to the Timeless Covenant part as I'm slowly going over the slideshow.

I may be dense; but, I'm having a hard time with Skolfield's combining the beginning of the 1290 years from Daniel 12:11 which he posits (understandably) as starting at 533BC [Daniel's vision of Daniel 10:1] with the 586BC fall of Jerusalem [when sacrifices were abolished]. This seems to conflict with Daniel 9:27 and 12:11 when put together which appear to be saying that the daily sacrifice being abolished and the set up of the abomination that causes desolation are one and the same event -- or at least in very close proximity to one another.
 

Paul ,

I have thought about that, too. However, I don't believe the connections to 666 and Javier Solana are strong enough, for the simple reason they are too obvious. Why not have his name attached to that 1995 document to deflect the attention from a different contender for the role?

A job was created for Solana under Section 666 of the European Codified Documents. How convenient. It's just too convenient if you ask me. Would you not agree that the 'number of a man' might pertain more to his name than to a document that assigns his job description?

Here's something you can do in your spare time, that might be kind of fun.

1.Take a piece of paper and across the top horizontally write the alphabet from A to Z. Now underneath each letter assign a number from 1 to 26. Now take our president's full name including his middle name Hussein and attach a numerical value to each of the three names. Add them all together and you'll get 163.

2. Now take another piece of paper and write the letters of the alphabet across the page again. This time underneath the letters assign a number going backwards from 26 to 1. Do the same thing as above. Assign all three words in our president's name a number by adding the numbers together, then add the numbers of the three names together and you'll get 323.

So 323 plus 163 =486.

Now take the numbers 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0 and write them across on another sheet of paper. Underneath these numbers assign a letter of the alphabet starting from A under the number 1 and ending with Z under the number 8. Do not assign anything to zero, since zero is an empty number. Just leave the space under zero blank. You'll have three rows of letters under the numbers to complete the alphabet. Now do the same thing you did in steps 1 and 2, and add them toegther. Barack=18, Hussein=32 and Obama =14. Add them together and you get 64.

4. Now repeat the exercise again only this time start with Z (under the number one) and go backwards in three rows until you get an A under the 8. Add them all together again and you get 116.

So let's add the 4 combinations together and we get 163+323+64+116 =666.

If you think that's just a coincidence you can also try it this way instead.

Do part 1 and 2 again. Now for part 3, start the numbers backwards from 9 to 1 and assign a letter from A to Z under each one. Add everything together and you get 116.

For part 4, again start with 9 and write the numbers backwards from left to right from 9 to 1. Underneath assign a letter to each number this time going backwards from Z to A. You'll get 64.

So once again we get 163+323+116+64 =666.

Statistics will tell you it's impossible for this to happen.

So if God in his almightly wisdom looked into the future and wanted to give his people a clue about this infamous "Man of perdition", wouldn't he use the same alphabet and number system that the man and his people used, and which the whole world recognizes?
 

Don't forget the creepy coincedence of the Illinois state lottery being 666 right after the general election that led to Obama becoming where he is now. I still lean towards Solana as the better candidate for AC, but I'm not counting out Obama. However, both Solana and Obama are very like-minded. Whoever the AC is will eventually be revealed as the Bible has said.


I do believe the AC(in the flesh) is in our world and it's only a matter of time before he's revealed. It's good that we look in as many directions as possible
 

Stanley Scheinbaum, Norman Dorsen and Ira Glasser and the NWO Constitution anybody?
 

The problem using numerology is that it is an occult practice similar to astrology. Some people read horoscopes "for fun." If someone is not careful, it can turn into an entry point to he occult. Use with caution!
 

I mean an entry point "to the occult."
 

Meanwhile along the "New World religion" front, here is an excerpt from the Italian government "Implementation Plan" as part of the "Group of Friends" of the UN's ALLIANCE OF CIVILIZATIONS:

"Religions’ Desks
Following the initiative on “The Inter-religious dialogue as a factor of social
cohesion”, launched by Italy in 2003 and approved by the Heads of States
and Governments of the European Council on December 2003, the Italian
Ministry of Interior has promoted since 2004 the creation of “Religions’
Desks” in the Prefectures’ territories. The aim of the Desks is to facilitate
projects that can strengthen a systematic dialogue between public institutions
and cultural communities, on the assumption that social stability largely
depends on peaceful cohabitation of different religions.
In this context, a particularly positive example is represented by the
Padova’s Desk, where representatives of the Municipality, the Province, the
University, as well as of the religious communities of the territory (Catholic,
Evangelical, Methodist, Orthodox, Jewish, Baha’i and Islamic) have
undertaken many initiatives. Among them, there has been the publication
entitled “Interreligious dialogue and universal values”, inspired by the above
mentioned “Charter of Values of Citizenship and Integration”. The
document contains a collection of national and international declarations on
human rights, as well as a description of the religious communities living in
the territory and participating at the Desk’s work."

Love to hear from Rich of Medford on this one.

Constance
 

Battle Creek David,

From Wikipedia:
St. Augustine of Hippo (A.D. 354–430) wrote "Numbers are the Universal language offered by the deity to humans as confirmation of the truth." Similar to Pythagoras, he too believed that everything had numerical relationships and it was up to the mind to seek and investigate the secrets of these relationships or have them revealed by divine grace. See Numerology and the Church Fathers for early Christian views.

Also:
Alphabetic systems

There are many numerology systems which assign numerical value to the letters of an alphabet. Examples include the Abjad numerals in Arabic, the Hebrew numerals, Armenian numerals, and Greek numerals. The practice within Jewish tradition of assigning mystical meaning to words based on their numerical values, and on connections between words of equal value, is known as gematria.
 

Regarding 666, even though I haven't checked yet the Vatican's take on the matter, in the Marian Priest Movement Fr. Don Gobbi was "told" through interior locutions some of the meaning of 666. They represented different eras, time periods, NOT specific dates. Here we go: 666x1=666 birth of Islam 666x2=1332 attack on the faith through philosophy, esp. rationalism 666x3=1998 appearance of Antichrist. Again, time periods, not specific year/date.
 

All,

Just a heads up, there is a new article in my series available on my blog. Questions and comments are welcome as always.

www.jd-thedevilisinthedetails.blogspot.com 

Craig,

Thank you very much as well.
 

Recently I noted on here that I saw an advertisement for the Earth Charter on CNN. This prompted me to do a bit more research on the EC on the 'net. One of the things I kept coming across was a Ted Turner quote calling for "250 to 300 million" as an ideal for total global population; however, I could not find that actual source. There are variations on the quote itself and a few variations on the source.

With the help of a book/magazine store I was able to obtain the actual magazine which contains the Turner interview and quote. It's from the November/December 1991 Audubon article titled, "Ted Turner Turns It On." Here's the quote:

"If we had a much smaller population, and over time we could have an ethic where we had only one child, and over maybe 300 or 400 years we could cut back to 250million- 350 million people..." [punctuation as per original article]

According to Turner in the article, the population at the time was "...5.3 billion people in the world and only 250 million of them live here [in the US]..." Current population is 6.85 billion and 300 million respectively and an increase of 1.65b and 50m respectively. Just to keep world population constant, this would call for a reduction of about 87 million over this 19 year timeframe -- just under 4.6 million per year.

Splitting the difference between the two sets of numbers in Turner's quote, 350 years to be reduced to a population of 300 million [300 million, again, is the current US population], this would call for an annual reduction of 14.29 million. Assuming projected growth to be similar to the growth from 1991 to 2010 we need to add the 4.6 million above for a total depopulation of about 18.9 million per year.
 

Anon 5:30 (and others here):

Pythagoras was tied to Kabbalah:

http://www.donaldtyson.com/tetract.html

From this particular site:

Jewish Kabbalists were strongly influenced by Greek philosophy. They created their own version of the tetractys using the Hebrew letters of Tetragrammaton (IHVH), the divine name of four letters. When these letters on the tetractys are written out in a line and added together, they number ten, and compose a Ten-letter name of God that Agrippa called "the name of Jehovah with ten letters collected" (Three Books of Occult Philosophy, Book II, Ch. 13).
 

IS God a Mathematian?

The authenticity of the Holy Bible has been attacked at regular intervals by atheists and theologians alike but none have explained away the mathematical seal beneath its surface.

It would seem the divine hand has moved to prevent counterfeiting in the pages of the Bible in a similar manner to the line that runs through paper money. Bible numerics appears to be God's watermark of authenticity. More here:

http://www.wordworx.co.nz/panin.html
 

World Shift 2012 : Endorsement by Mikhail Gorbachev

This is Google's cache of http://worldshift2012.org/content/endorsement-by-mikhail-gorbachev. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on 27 May 2010 08:14:15 GMT. The current page

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:huP-A1a_KLQJ:worldshift2012.org/content/endorsement-by-mikhail-gorbachev+2012+Gorbachev&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk


worldshift2012.org
 

Look at the list of well-known Indignitaries at this website!


http://www.green-agenda.com/globalrevolution.html
 

YG/Agie95:

The following chart shows Skolfield's view of some of the dates/times/timelines in Daniel and Revelation [slide 120]:

http://www.fishhouseministries.com/pdf/2010.5%20T.O.pdf

or

http://tinyurl.com/362jybz

To me, his whole doctrine, if you will, stands on his interpretation of Daniel's "70th week;" yet, I don't understand how he arrives at the 70th "week" being 2500 years when the 69 "weeks" prior are only 483.

And, maybe I've not come across this just yet but, where is the "covenant which will be "confirmed/strengthened" in Daniel 9:27?
 

Now BP is a hero and catalyst our in evolutionary shift.

http://ourgreaterdestiny.wordpress.com/
 

Craig,

I'll need to go back through the book and look into it. My advice would be to consider downloading the book. I'm thinking that it would be easier to read and understand what he wrote, than to try and follow it on a slideshow. I had my bible by my side the entire time I was reading it, and kept checking his references. I also used a history book when I needed additional information.

YG
 

Craig,

I just followed your link and that is not what I was reading. I was reading the book "The False Prophet" which he wrote in 2001. The is a 2010 version of "Daniel and Revelation", and it appears to have different information. I'll need to look at it thoroughly before responding to your question.

YG
 

Anonymous 6:43 thanks so much for the link to what appears to be a gem of a site (I've only just skimmed through it). Sarcasm time: I had no clue whatsoever that Al Gore could be a member of such a radical organization as the Club of Rome. It puzzled me some time ago when Condoleeza Rice paid them a visite en route to some summit/meeting in the mid-east.
 

YG,

Thanks for taking a look at the slideshow.

I have another problem with Skolfield's analysis. He asserts that the time of the Gentiles was completed in 1967 with "The freeing of Jerusalem from Gentile control.." yet the City of David contains both the Dome of the Rock and al-Aqsa Mosque both of which are under Palestinian control. Does Skolfield assert that East Jerusalem is the REAL Jerusalem with the area containing the two Mosques of Islam excluded?

I have another nagging problem with his analysis of the "time of the Gentiles" being completed in '67 that I don't quite know how to articulate.
 

Anonymous 6:54 pm
Are you telling me you have a problem with this from the link you gave?

"Ask Earth’s forgiveness and what you can do. When I asked on July 02, 2010, I was awakened in the night and guided to breathe in Light from Father Sky through the top of my head into my heart, which I held momentarily to expand with loving intent. On every out breath I flowed Light giving oxygen into the Gulf of Mexico. I held visions of Dolphins, Whales, turtles and other marine life feel loving relief."

That might have been how Obama was taking care of the problem in the Gulf. He was breathing good stuff out rather than letting advanced technology take care of the problem. Finally he must have just gotten tired of breathing that good stuff out.

Dorothy
 

Craig, you should read the book first then read the slide show. This will help with some things.

As far as Jerusalem, Israel is in control of Jerusalem. Yes, the Dome of the Rock still stands, but in Rev 11:2 it says to leave out the outer court b/c it was given to the gentiles. The Dome of the Rock is where the outer court was located.

As far as the 1290 days, it does not have anything to do with the 70th Week. Clear your mind of all of your previous knowledge of the tribulation week. Also reading Bifids and Chiasms and Daniel's 70th Week after the False Prophet helps as well.

Congrats JD, I am holding my third (3 mths) as I type this.
 

Agie95:

Well, I guess I'm a simple kinda guy and like most guys visual; so, a slide show I feel will give me a good overview.

I still don't get which "covenant" begins the 70th week and just who "confirms" it according to Skolfield.

I'm glad you can hold a 3 month old while typing as my idea of mult-tasking is breathing while typing...
 

Dorothy,

I thought it was hilarious. But you were able to make it funny while I was not.
 

Found this comment over at the Costa Rica tourism site which recently reported 47 American warships on the way:

"Here is what is truly going on with the US sending this envoy to Costa Rica. Russian sources are reporting in the Kremlin today that NATO has ordered over 7,000 US Marines
to begin deploying in the Central American Nation of Costa Rica over fears the disastrous oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is about to rupture the fracture zone lying between the North American and Caribbean Plates and potentially
unleashing upon the America's a catastrophic earthquake.
Admiral Di Paola's fears, this report continues, lies in the massive amount of abiogenic and methane gases being released from the Gulf of Mexico which many experts are warning could destabilize an already weakened earthquake zone and which Russian scientists are holding responsible
for the 5.0 magnitude trembler that hit the Great Lakes region barely a fortnight ago and the 4.6 Virgin Island
and 4.7 Guatemala quakes occurring during the past 24 hours. Equally potentially catastrophic for this region is this massive oil spill occurring during a predicted above average hurricane season as another storm begins churning these troubled waters, it occurring during a time of a total solar eclipse due to occur on July 11th and as our Sun begins throwing off a number of massive flares all long associated with earthquakes in both modern and ancient lore. The connection with catastrophic earthquakes upon our Earth and their association with solar eclipses have long been known and was last evidenced by the January 12, 2010 7.0 magnitude quake that destroyed the Caribbean Island of Haiti killing over 250,000 and occurring
3 days before the January 15, 2010 solar eclipse. Admiral Di Paola's decision to move these 7,000 US Marines from their American base in North Carolina to Costa Rica, this report continues, is based upon his need to have "viable forces" positioned on either side of the North American and Caribbean Plate Zones should disaster strike."

There's a solar eclipse tomorrow. We'll see if anything happens, but there is definitely something strange about 47 warships in Costa Rica.

YG
 

I'm not going to dismiss what you said about Obama using the numerology thing. It is intriguing. Although, the lottery thing is still the freakiest. I'm just saying be careful with numerology. People who dabble into numerology or astrology for fun could be stirring up trouble. It's like all those paranormal investigators and shows searching for ghosts. They could be provoking demonic spirits unintentionally. Playing with fire.

Just be safe about this thing. And stay strong in faith.
 

Hmmm. Could they have removed the cap on the well because of the solar eclipse? If the solar eclipse is causing solar flares which is causing additional earthquake activity, is it possible that they removed the cap because they wanted to relieve the well of extra pressure.

Sometimes I feel as though I'm losing it...

YG
 

Battlecreek David,

Thanks for the warning. I do appreciate it. I am not into numerology or the occult. A statistics student sent me that info back in 2008. I kept it because I felt a great deal of foreboding about Obama at the time.

We shall see how it all comes out, if we are still here on earth when the feces hits the fan.
 

Craig,

Earlier I mentioned the 70th seven being one of the issues that I have with Skolfield. Everything else is pretty hard to argue with in my opinion. Skolfield claims (actually if you ask him he will say he does not but the Bible does) that the covenant was the Decree of Cyrus in 536BC. The decree was to rebuild the Temple. Skolfield does not really make clear what the covenant is really. The first six chapters of the book of Ezra detail the decree to rebuild the Temple.

My opinion is Skolfield really does not have an answer for the covenant. I will email him and see what he says. I assume it is Skolfield that is answering the emails I have already sent. This is one of two points that I really still have questions regarding Skolfield's position.
 

New BP Data Show 20% of Gulf Spill Responders Exposed to Chemical That Sickened Valdez Workers

In an under-the-radar release of new test results for its Gulf of Mexico oil spill workers, BP PLC is reporting potentially hazardous exposures to a now-discontinued dispersant chemical -- a substance blamed for contributing to chronic health problems after the Exxon Valdez cleanup -- among more than 20 percent of offshore responders.

BP's new summary of chemical testing, posted to its web site this week after a nearly month long absence of new data, also makes notable revisions to the company's public characterization of the health risks facing Gulf workers. The oil giant now describes the government as a partner in developing the program for monitoring cleanup crews.

For more...

http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/
2010/07/09/09greenwire-new-bp-data-
show-20-of-gulf-spill-responders-e-
82494.html
 

Anonymous 8:23
If you think something is funny, you have to tell this crowd. Right now they are reading the symbols in the Bible, a favorite topic. It takes a lot to distract them.

Dorothy
 

YG:

This website provides the latest accurate information on everything from an eclipse to solar flares, etc.

http://www.spaceweather.com/
 

128 BP oil cleanup workers - sickened in Louisiana - told NOT to go to public hospitals!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=ZuDjhbfboA4
&feature=player_embedded
 

"Published 08:22 09.07.10
Latest update 08:22 09.07.10

The Jerusalem Master Plan for destruction

We did not establish the first Knesset of Jewish lawmakers in history so the law could be twisted to serve vengeful fantasies.

By Don Futterman

　

Just in time for the nine days of mourning leading up to Tisha B'Av, the Jerusalem municipality has threatened to file its Master Plan for Jerusalem as reported in Haaretz on June 28. The plan includes a comprehensive development program that seems designed to undermine the Zionist enterprise and invite calls for our destruction.

(skip)

The plan's call to displace Palestinians suggests that there are more sinister agendas than failing to prepare for the needs of Palestinian Jerusalemites adequately. The plan plays into both the settler-led campaign to rid the area around the Old City of its Arab population, and the government's efforts to make sure Jerusalem will never be the capital of a Palestinian state, despite the lip service paid to the two-state solution.

We should not reject the Jerusalem Master Plan simply because its passage may infuriate the Americans and Europeans and add to delegitimization campaigns against Israel around the world..."

http://tinyurl.com/39sfpeu

or

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/the-jerusalem-master-plan-for-destruction-1.300935
 

LOL...I'm only laughing at this to keep my crying!!!

http://www.infowars.com/obamas-
summer-of-misery-and-hardship-tour-
hits-the-road/
 

His Royal Highness Prince El Hassan bin Talal?

Check out Dr. Joe VanKoevering's presentation on the "Man of sin (its in 9 pts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTxgFEVGm3g&feature=related

His Royal Highness Prince El Hassan bin Talal

Prince Hassan chairs and is a member of a number of international committees and organisations. These include:

Established in 1994 in Amman, Jordan, under the patronage of HRH Prince El Hassan bin Talal, the Royal Institute for Inter-Faith Studies

Too much info on this guy to post here.
Have a look and tell me what you think he could be a red herring

Take a look at His Royal Highness Prince El Hassan bin Talal
Web site

http://www.elhassan.org/public/English.aspx?Lang=3&Page_Id=1410&M=73

Amanda

.
 

Anon 6:28,

I am not sure if you know this, but Worldshift 2012 is actually a offshoot of the Club of Budapest. There are very influential names that sit on the advisory council including Ervin Laszlo, Muhammad Yunus, Deepak Chopra and many others. The World Shift Network which WS2012 falls under has many partners that would be familiar to readers here including the Institute of Noetic Sciences, World Commision on Global Consciousness and Spirituality, Jerusalem Peace Academy, State of the World Forum, World Culture Forum and many others.

Gorbachev is a CoB member as well. CoB is a partner group of the Club of Rome as well. I could go on, but I think you get the point. If your not familiar with all of this, I highly suggest taking a run through these links.

http://clubofbudapest.org/members.php

http://www.worldshiftnetwork.org/partners/
 

Agie,

Thanks, I hope yours is as much of a blessing as I am finding Allie to be.

Dorothy,

Funny, I didn't think O was capable of excreting anything positive. That is unless you used it as fertilizer, but maybe thats the point. Spread as much bull around as possible, set back and watch the plants grow. He is into green stuff after all.
 

JD,
See that what you know about the New Age movement. LOL It's all about what one can talk people into believing. Obama's an expert at New Age talk. The reality is that there is no way to verify that one is talking to Mother Earth and she is talking back. However if you say it's true sincerely enough, people will believe it.

Funny little story about sending energy. Many years ago I went to a Unitarian Church to see Barbara Marx Hubbard speak. Lucis Trust people were there, but not openly. Triangles is a branch of Lucis Trust. We were supposed to send our energy to a foreign city that needed it. I was chosen to pick the foreign city for our group. They were suspicious of me. I told them we would send our energy to Albuquerque. I used the name because it sounded foreign and I wanted to see what they would do. They didn't know what to do. At that point they didn't know whether I was smart or stupid. Afterwards I challenged Hubbard. While she was speaking on stage she couldn't stop smiling. Afterwards she was one mean bitch.

After a while New Age thinking for the rubes gets very boring.

Dorothy
 

Before retiring for the night, I turned on local TBN broadcasting as I sometimes do to see what type of heresy they may show. The Michael English Show (never heard of him) had just started; and, he introduced Florence LaRue of the pop group 5th Dimension. He said she will be touring with the original 5th Dimension.

I wonder if they will reprise their smash hit of the late '60s "Aquarius/Let The Sunshine In" aka "Age of Aquarius"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarius/Let_the_Sunshine_In
 

University of Illinois instructor fired over Catholic beliefs

Howell said he was teaching his students about the Catholic understanding of natural moral law.

"My responsibility on teaching a class on Catholicism is to teach what the Catholic Church teaches," Howell said in an interview with The News-Gazette in Champaign. "I have always made it very, very clear to my students they are never required to believe what I'm teaching and they'll never be judged on that."

Howell also said he makes clear to his students that he's Catholic and that he believes the church views that he teaches.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/09/university-illinois-instructor-fired-catholic-beliefs/print

This is incredible. Things are getting very serious, people.
Are public universities soon going to be able to legally deny admission to students who attend mass, church, or synagogue because they are deemed participants in a form of "hate speech"?
 

Matt.24:24-27 says:

24 For there shall arise false
Christs and false prophets,
and shall show great signs
and wonders; insomuch
that if it were possible, they
shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you
before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say
unto you, Behold he is in the
desert; go not forth; behold,
he is in the SECRET CHAMBERS,
believe it not.
27 For as the lightening cometh
out of the east and shineth
even unto the west; so shall
also the coming of the Son
of man be.


I can't help but think that
all these things like Gematria
and Numerology and secret
hidden knowledge are all
just so much sin.
If we are supposed to try
to find the hidden numerology
in the words of the Bible,
(or in people's names), then I
guess the face value of the
text of Gods' Holy Word must
be something less that what
we thought.
And nothing is as it seems.
Don't forget that it's called
"Mystery Babylon".
 

Take one of these and call on
God this morning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJjfrEzOaAI
 

From the link provided by Anon @ 8:15AM:

An unidentified student sent an e-mail to religion department head Robert McKim on May 13, calling Howell's e-mail "hate speech." The student claimed to be a friend of the offended student. The writer said in the e-mail that his friend wanted to remain anonymous.

This sounds as though the unidentified student was not even part of the class!

"My responsibility on teaching a class on Catholicism is to teach what the Catholic Church teaches," Howell said in an interview with The News-Gazette in Champaign. "I have always made it very, very clear to my students they are never required to believe what I'm teaching and they'll never be judged on that."

In an e-mail to other school staff, Ann Mester, an associate dean at the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, said Howell's e-mail justified his firing.

"The e-mails sent by Dr. Howell violate university standards of inclusivity, which would then entitle us to have him discontinue his teaching arrangement with us," Mester wrote.

From the U. of Illinois website tab titled About Inclusive Illinois:

http://www.inclusiveillinois.illinois.edu/InclusiveAbout.html

...The University’s goal is to heighten awareness and engagement about issues of identity and importance of examining and respecting differences based on race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation and gender identity, age, physical ability, religion, as well as the multiple and intersecting ways we see ourselves and others. In addition, to enhance the working, living, and learning environment for faculty, staff, and students, the University will encourage a standard of conduct and behavior that is consistent with the values of inclusivity. In an environment of inclusivity, there is no place for acts of hatred, intolerance, insensitivity, bigotry, threats of violence, harassment or discrimination.

To add insult to injury:

After he [Howell] lost his teaching job, Howell also was fired as director of the St. John's Catholic Newman Center's Institute of Catholic Thought. The on-campus center directed questions to the Diocese of Peoria, which had paid for his position.

Patricia Gibson, an attorney and chancellor of the diocese, said Howell was let go because he could no longer teach at the university.

"We are very concerned and very distressed by what we understand is the situation from Dr. Howell," she said. The diocese hopes to discuss the situation with someone at the university, she said.
 

WOW, What kind of bizzaro land do we live in when a man gets fired from his job teaching Catholicism for of all things TEACHING CATHOLICISM! Then loses his position with a Catholic institution over the schools decision?!?
 

Some satirical humor:

http://kennethcopeland.blogspot.com/

Fake Kenneth Copeland: Hello, Partners. I must tell you I am burdened in my spirit today. As you all know, I walk in the annointing -- 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. But today...sigh...I am bearing a heavy, heavy load.

John Hagee: Snap out of it, Ken! You're a king's kid, dad-gum it! Shake it off!

Fake Kenneth Copeland: Sorry, John, not today. The burden is just too great.

Benny Hinn: What is it, Ken? Are you opressed?

Fake Kenneth Copeland: No, Benny, it's something far worse. And frankly, as a little god one of God's generals, I should have seen it coming.

Cindy Jacobs: You're in pain, aren't you Ken? Yes, that's it...God is revealing it to me even now. I have a seer annointing, you know. And a doctorate from Kathmandu.

Fake Kenneth Copeland: No, Cindy, it's far worse than that.

Cindy Jacobs: Doctor Jacobs.

Fake Kenneth Copeland: Whatever, no it's....well, I guess I'll just come out and say it. The doctors have found a --.

Cindy Jacobs: A growth! I knew it!

Fake Kenneth Copeland: Would you SHUT UP! No, it's not a growth. My doctors have found a....birthmark.

John Hagee: I don't understand, Ken. Why is a little god man of God like you even going to a doctor?

Fake Kenneth Copeland: Well, John, it's...complicated. Of course, I walk in divine health. However, I regularly visit the doctor to confirm what I already know in my knower, which is the simple fact that I am in perfect health.

Bob Jones: Can I see your birthmark?

Benny Hinn: Why is this birthmark so troubling to you, Ken?

Fake Kenneth Copeland: It's shaped like...uh...a number.

John Hagee: What number, Ken?

Fake Kenneth Copeland: Uh...I'd rather not say.

Bob Jones: Where is it?

Fake Kenneth Copeland: Not that it's any of your business, Bob, but it's on my left buttocks.

Bob Jones: Can I see it?

John Hagee: I see. So in other words, it's on your left behind?

Fake Kenneth Copeland: Yes...(sob)

Benny Hinn: A number? Can you give us a range of numbers?

Fake Kenneth Copeland: Sure, it's between one and seven.

Cindy Jacobs: Wait, wait, don't tell me...It's five! I got it! Oh, I am so awesome!

Fake Kenneth Copeland: No.

Creflo Dollar: What's wrong with getting tatoos?

Juanita Bynum: You guys keep talking...I'm just gonna roll around on the floor for a while.

Fake Kenneth Copeland: It's a birthmark, Creffy, not a tatoo. A tattoo would be a defilement of my holy temple.

Paul White: Well, I think tatoos on a man are hot!

Benny Hinn: Is it between five and seven?

Fake Kenneth Copeland: Yes.

Bob Jones: It's three! I just saw three angels!

[cont]
 

John Hagee: So you have a tattoo shaped like the number "6" on your left behind?

Fake Kenneth Copeland: This is what I'm saying, yes.

Perry Stone: This is not new information to me. I have sources at the highest levels of the Knesset. I have enhanced satellite imagery of you and Glo sun-bathing in your birthday suits while on a "ministry" trip to Cancun. An Israeli satellite.

Bob Jones: Can I see?

Fake Kenneth Copeland: Perry's telling the truth.

Perry Stone: And the six on his buttocks is clearly visible.

John Hagee: Well, that's a problem, Ken. What do you want me to do?

Fake Kenneth Copeland: I'm looking for advice on how to spin this, John. Once my sycophantic partners find out about this, I fear they will jump to conclusions.

Benny Hinn: What? Like you're the anti-Christ?

Fake Kenneth Copeland: Yes. That's what I'm afraid of.

John Hagee: Can't you just confess it away...you know, speak it out of existence.

Fake Kenneth Copeland: I tried that, John. It's not working.

Benny Hinn: What about lasers?

Paula White: Oh, honey, they can do amazing things with lasers these days.

Bob Jones: I once saw a demon with lasers coming out of his eyes.

Fake Kenneth Copeland: Well...even if lasers worked...what about Perry?

Perry Stone: What about me? Frankly, Ken, you ought to be more concerned about spending an eternity in the raging fires of a burning hell reserved for the devil and his angels.

Fake Kenneth Copeland: That did cross my mind. That, and you blackmailing me.

Perry Stone: Blackmail you? For what?

Fake Kenneth Copeland: For being the anti-Christ.

John Hagee: Is that an admission, Ken? Because if it is, I am going to have to kill you right here and now.

Fake Kenneth Copeland: NO!...no, no, no....I'm not saying I am the anti-Christ. Do I look like the anti-Christ to you? I have a Jesus plane, for crying out loud.

John Hagee: Interesting. I noticed you didn't answer the question directly, Ken. Now, I'm gonna ask you one last time. Are you, or are you not, the anti-Christ?
 

Craig LOL It doesn't take an awful lot of spiritual flair to sense that something is profundly wrong with all these televangelists. I'm glad no-one in this forum/comment section falls for that. On a side-note, I've done some research in the past on Benny Hinn and it named Kathryn Kuhlman as his mentor/inspiration and it even said that he had contact(s) with her through necromancia. Just watching him or Copeland "slay in the spirit" or laugh hysterically as if they're demon-possessed is enough evidence to start with that they're not of God. To get back to Kathryn Kuhlman, watching her on You Tube was the single most scary thing I've watched in a long time. That's why I didn't provide a link. If you do go, say a fervent prayer beforehand.
 

Local TBN programming broadcasts some old Kuhlman late at night. Yep, eerie stuff!

I'm well aware of Hinn's repeated visits to Kuhlman's grave. And, people think this is Christianity?!

Unfortunately, there's much worse in Christendom like John Crowder, Benjamin Dunn, etc.
 

Here is more pro-Muslim propaganda in light of Dorothy's Atlas Shrugs post:

"The most extreme case of this is the town Srebrenica, which on Sunday remembered the slaughter of more than 8,000 Muslim men and boys executed after Serb forces overran the U.N.-protected town on July 11, 1995, during the 1992-1995 Bosnian war.
The wounds are also particularly raw in Prijedor, in the hills of northern Bosnia. It was, as one book about the town calls it, a "laboratory of ethnic cleansing" -- referring to the Bosnian Serb policy of forcing out Bosnian Muslims, or Bosniaks, to create a homogeneous Serb entity in the country."

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/in-bosnia-census-raises-specter-of-wars-horrors/19548922
 

Craig said...
Some satirical humor:


As for me, I'm not laughing.
 

Dorothy, please....

I appreciate your observations and research very much. Using profanity diminishes the value you bring, i.e., 1:29.
 

Anonymous 4:25

Bitch is not profanity, it's slang. Just check with Webster. A bitch is a female canine, an apropos description of Hubbard if you ask me, though pig, barracuda and rabid skunk could work, too.

Not Dorothy
 

4:25 & 4:43

I'm divided on the "Dorothy's use of the B-word" issue.

You both have valid points.
 

How I used the word:
bitch (bch)
n.
1. A female canine animal, especially a dog.
2. Offensive
a. A woman considered to be spiteful or overbearing.
b. A lewd woman.
c. A man considered to be weak or contemptible.
3. Slang A complaint.
4. Slang Something very unpleasant or difficult.
v. bitched, bitch·ing, bitch·es Slang
v.intr.
To complain; grumble.
v.tr.
To botch; bungle. Often used with up.
[Middle English bicche, from Old English bicce.]

From Wiki answers:
user-generated content

Is the term 'bitch' considered profanity when used to describe a person?
In: Definitions and Word Differences

Answer
It's the same as calling someone a female dog. Not necessarily a cuss word but certainly an insult in the extreme. The term has evolved to the point that it is considered by many to be very very very very bad. But smarter people say go home.

Definition of pofane:
pro·fane (pr-fn, pr-)
adj.
1. Marked by contempt or irreverence for what is sacred.
2. Nonreligious in subject matter, form, or use; secular: sacred and profane music.
3. Not admitted into a body of secret knowledge or ritual; uninitiated.
4. Vulgar; coarse.
tr.v. pro·faned, pro·fan·ing, pro·fanes
1. To treat with irreverence: profane the name of God.
2. To put to an improper, unworthy, or degrading use; abuse.

Back in the 14th century the word was used to describe a female dog in heat. It's not the 14th century. Look up the use of the word on Wikipedia.

Where Barbara Marx Hubbard is concerned, I know I'm not being profane as she is not to be revered. There are times when being politically correct is just lying. I carefully chose the word.

Dorothy
 

The Real Criminals Presiding over the International Criminal Court
Part II of Nuremberg II is up at Atlas Shrugs
http://tinyurl.com/32arhmh

It's long but fascinating reading. It shows how information has been manipulated against the Christian Serbs on behalf of the Muslim community. It shows how the war there was conducted on behalf of the Muslim community.

It's another situation we here in the US hear nothing about from our dumbed down media.

Dorothy
 

Ever wonder about BP's origins?

While many people automatically associate big Oil with the Rockefeller family, BP's origins were in the Persian Gulf. In the early years BP's partner was Iran! In fact it was called the Anglo-Persian oil Company for many years. Read the history of the company here:

http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/The-British-Petroleum-Company-plc-Company-History.html
 

Interesting 'lightworker' website, claiming planned genocide behind the oil spill:

http://www.thegic.org/profiles/blogs/asphalt-volcano-amp-bp?xg_source=activity
 

Crisis Awaits World's Banks As Trillions Come Due

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/12
/business/global/12refinance.html
 

For the record, I would just as soon keep all language out we would not use in generally polite society, including the F--- word, the B---- word, the B------ word, the S--- word, etc., ad nauseum.

Other than that, conversation is lively.

Not sure what to make of the Ken Copeland satire.

Constance
 

looks like 7/15/2010 is the report card / mid-term review for ENP participants ! Oh boy, i wonder how Israel is going to score? this is being reported today on Born to Watch. Ole Scotty-boy! now we know! bye for now, tony in vermont,watching n waiting.
 

Whatever Constance. Though we are both over 65, I'll respect the standards you want to live by. Frankly I was called a lot worse on this blog with no apology from anyone.

I found it interesting that no one commented on the information I provided, but are rather concerned with the fact that I was not being politically correct.

I still don't think calling Hubbard a real word is profanity. I don't think Hubbard should be revered by anyone in any way shape or form. However, it's a big world and some do.

Dorothy
 

I hesitated to post this story, but several people suggested I should.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/how_porn_is_warping_generation_of_dRhzBsl8CJFGS3ytfeMAqI
http://tinyurl.com/36a757s

How porn is warping a generation of men

"Today’s porn is not your father’s Playboy. Type porn into Google and you won’t see anything that looks like the old pinups; instead, you will be catapulted into a world of sexual cruelty and brutality where women are subject to body-punishing sex and called vile names. It’s not surprising how little women really know about porn today, since most women avoid looking at these sites. Not true for the men I meet, especially the college-age and even high-school boys. They have grown up with porn and, for them, this has been their major form of sex education...."

It is my thinking that this is a major change brought about by the New Age movement. The violence of pornography has become the outlet for male testosterone which is being denied by the culture.

The New Age culture wants men to turn feminine, less hostile, less problem solving, more cooperative, less take charge. The one world culture wants passive individuals and that is being encouraged.

The outlet at this time is violent pornography which is destroying the normal sexual relationship, making women less dependent on men and more on the government.


What do you think?

Dorothy
 

Here's a link to what I think will be of interest to many. It's about a russian author/philosopher, or rather his book on the Antichrist. He made some startling comments about a united sates of Europe and describes what AC will/might be like.Mind you this was written in 1899. Those who expect AC to be very hostile to Jesus as a whole might be deceived.http://www.christendom-awake.org/pages/soloviev/biffi.html
 

Dorothy,
"The New Age culture wants men to turn feminine, less hostile, less problem solving, more cooperative, less take charge. The one world culture wants passive individuals and that is being encouraged.

The outlet at this time is violent pornography which is destroying the normal sexual relationship, making women less dependent on men and more on the government.


What do you think?"

I think you hit the "thumb tack" on the head with a 10 lb. sledge hammer. Very well said.

HK
 

http://www.activistpost.com/2010/07/ten-ways-we-are-being-tracked-traced.html

article about how we are being kept track of.
 

http://gridsmartohio.com/
Just saw TV commercial for this from American Electric Power.
 

HK
it also makes men less dependent on women, many men now call the act of having real sex with a real woman, bad porn.
 

Thanks HK for responding.

The current concentration on sex is a major sign of New Age manipulation. It affects us at the core, our families. Since the '60s every new generation has been manipulated. How? First, it reminds me of the line from a book about Sweden...Because they have sexual freedom, they think they are free. Also, in the book Brave New World, people would go to the movies after work and enjoy "feelies" as a distraction from the world around them.

Sex in front of our faces on a daily basis outside of marriage is a major distraction from what is going on in the world. Look at the role sex plays in the homosexual culture. It has lowered the men involved to an animal level, leaving them with nothing after they start getting old and stop being pretty playthings. They have no families, no community, nothing.

That is what is happening to the general culture now. It is why people are dependent on government and not family and community. Dependency on government is very much a sign of New Age manipulation.

To my mind this is what affects people at the street level. Every parent needs to fight for their children's future. It's a hard battle, one against the community around them. When one loses time in understanding this, the battle for one's children is lost.

At this point I would like to compare it to the oil leak in the Gulf. Oil in the gulf is neutral but yet it damages. Other than BP, there is no source to blame, yet the damage being done is large and uncontrolable and those who we have been taught are to take care of us, such as the current government, don't do anything. You've got to do it for yourself.

Dorothy
 

Back in Nazi days, the targets were Jews and Catholics. Under New Age manipulation of the culture, he will happen again unless enough people take a stand.

While I'm sure most of you know what happened at the University of Illinois recently, this is a very good analysis of the attack on Catholic thinking.

http://www.illinoisfamily.org/

University of Illinois Inclusivity Standards Exclude Catholics
7/12/2010 7:00:00 AM
By Laurie Higgins, Director of IFI's DSA -Illinois Family Institute

"Examples of hypocrisy and viewpoint and religious discrimination are tumbling out of academia faster than I can keep track of. The latest is from the problem-ridden University of Illinois (U of I), or as I have come to think of it, the gang that couldn't shoot straight (no pun intended).

U of I has fired adjunct professor, Dr. Kenneth Howell, who has taught for nine years in the Department of Religion. Most recently, he taught "Introduction to Catholicism" and "Modern Catholic Thought." From all reports, it appears that Dr. Howell was fired essentially for being Catholic."

(more at the link)

Dorothy
 

Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro will appear on Cuban television and radio Monday evening to discuss his theory that the world is on the verge of nuclear war.

For more...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUS
TRE66B1OP20100712
 

"Look at the role sex plays in the homosexual culture. It has lowered the men involved to an animal level, leaving them with nothing after they start getting old and stop being pretty playthings. They have no families, no community, nothing."

C.S. Lewis talked about how rampant homosexual behaviour was at the boys' school he and his brother attended. When the new students came in, the upper classmen dumped their old boys for fresh boys.

But when I worked and was not on lay-off, I didn't see much of this stuff with the few workers there which I knew were "gay" (except for the one guy, who fit the flamboyant stereotype). These people had partners at home and, as far as I know, were mostly monogomous, and more or less happy, at least as much as any of the heterosexual couples. The heterosexuals seemed to often forget they were married. Maybe most work places are like Peyton Place nowadays.
 

2,400 Canadian Soldiers Deployed to Gulf Coast

July 7, 2010

2400 Canadian Soldiers and the 1 Combat Engineer Regiment based in Edmonton Alberta are on a 72 Hour notice for deployment to the U.S. Gulf Coast.

The 1 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (1 CMBG) frequently train with U.S. Army units including up to a 3 year secondment in the U.S. Military for Career Officers. The Canadian Engineer Regiment is often associated with the British SAS and their role in recent conflicts such as Bosnia and Afghanistan has seen them doing less reconstruction work and more urban pacification and counter insurgency operations.

Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.

To read more:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/
95/332/2400
_Canadian_Soldiers_deployed_to_Gulf
_Coast.html
 

2,400 Canadian Soldiers Deployed to Gulf Coast

July 7, 2010

2400 Canadian Soldiers and the 1 Combat Engineer Regiment based in Edmonton Alberta are on a 72 Hour notice for deployment to the U.S. Gulf Coast.

The 1 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (1 CMBG) frequently train with U.S. Army units including up to a 3 year secondment in the U.S. Military for Career Officers. The Canadian Engineer Regiment is often associated with the British SAS and their role in recent conflicts such as Bosnia and Afghanistan has seen them doing less reconstruction work and more urban pacification and counter insurgency operations.

Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.

To read more:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/
95/332/2400
_Canadian_Soldiers_deployed_to_Gulf
_Coast.html
 

Dorothy,

Thanks for the story from Illinois Family Institute. I really liked the following quote--very well stated:

“One tool in the cliche "toolbox" of activist ideologues currently ensconced in our ivory towers is to unilaterally change the definition of words and then enforce those unilateral redefinitions on society -- redefinitions that conveniently disadvantage their philosophical opponents. So, redefine "hatred" to mean "moral beliefs with which I disagree" and then charge those who hold them with hatred. Voilà, sexual traditionalists become haters. So simple, so simplistic, so irrational -- and yet so effective.”

When I try to explain the dialectic process to folks, they glaze over. I think that short description is very powerful to describe what one of the tools of the dialectic "looks like" in action.
 

Constance,

You said, "Not sure what to make of the Kenneth Copeland satire."

As a pastor's wife, I have learned that we must maintain a high standard of discretion. Personally, I do not agree with the word of faith televangelists and their spirituality. However, most of my church members do.

I could squawk and use derisive satire. Doing so would alienate people dear to me and get me and hubby into much hot water.

I have found that speaking pointed remarks or asking thought provoking questions is much more powerful than ridicule. Ridicule shows the condition of the heart. It takes much to control the flesh when we see and hear such foolish stuff out of the mouths of so-called spiritual celebrities. We absolutely MUST speak out. But such rebuke must be done in the context of authority, speaking the truth in love.

Jesus rebuked the Pharisees. He called them vipers and whited sepulchers. But he did not mock and ridicule.

I have been speaking out regarding much of what I learn here from the researchers at this blog site. I would love to point people here. But when I see comments such as the Copeland satire, I hold back.

I do not state this judgmentally; I have a great tendency towards satire and criticism myself. I am learning restraint and self control. It's hard with the ludicrous remarks made by the likes of those in the Copeland satire.

...Hmmm...I think Proverbs has much to say about the lips of fools and the lips of the wise....

So, Constance, I am weighing in, to say that the satire is in poor taste, that the need to expose false teaching is very great. We can do so in such a way as to bring glory to God and correction to the simple.

IMHO
 

YNST:

I humbly accept your rebuke for my posting of the Copeland, et al, satire. My apologies to anyone here whether "regular" posters or those who just read.
 

As of now, this is only a rumor - but keep a watch out for this:

Has Obama given Exxon & Chevron the green light to consider bids to take over BP?

According to the Sunday Times, the Obama administration has given its blessing to Exxon and Chevron to consider takeover bids of the troubled major (BP) unimpeded.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/bp
-rumormill-update-sunday-times-
reports-exxon-and-chevron-receive-
green-light-obama-plot-ta
 

SECRET GOLD SWAP HAS SPOOKED THE MARKET

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/
markets/7884272/Secret-gold-swap-
has-spooked-the-market.html
 

Dorothy and All,

Dorothy is absolutely right in saying

The current concentration on sex is a major sign of New Age manipulation. It affects us at the core, our families. Since the '60s every new generation has been manipulated....

Dorothy is probably already very well tuned in to what I have posted below concerning the implications of the gender-bending that has been incorporated into New Age thinking.

The "bisexual" state of being also called "androgyny" is very relevant to New Age beliefs in terms of the "Great Work" which is the so-called "reconciliation of opposites. It is tied in with New Age monism ( i.e."all is one").

Moreover, orgiastic/ecstatic cults have traditionally used ritual sex as a means of entering into "altered states of consciousness." Tantrism is the Hindu or Buddhist variation on this theme.

http://philtar.ucsm.ac.uk/
encyclopedia/hindu/devot/tant.html
http://www.themystica.com/mystica/
articles/t/tantrism.html

The spiritual father of the infamous Ordo Templi Orientis, Karl Kellner, was said to be a skilled practitioner of tantric yoga. H.P. Blavatsky is believed by some to have been involved somehow with Karl Kellner and both were said to have been initiated into the Hermetic Brotherhood of Luxor. Both were also involved with Eastern occultism and its corresponding "sex magick" known as "Tantrism."
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Most of the ancient pagan deities were androgynous. In fact, in the following article, androgyny is said to be the pagan sexual ideal.
Androgyny: The Pagan Sexual Ideal
Peter Jones
http://www.cbmw.org/images/
articles_pdf/jones_peter/peter_
jones_jets_43.3.pdf
_________________________________

Here is a pro-Androgyny piece. You have to subscribe to read the whole thing, but there is enough at the link to enable the reader to get her drift.

ANDROGYNY OR CATASTROPHE
The Vision of Doris Lessing's Later Novels
By Nancy Topping Bazin

http://www.jstor.org/pss/3346502

DORIS LESSING
......When asked about which of her books she considers most important, Lessing chose the Canopus in Argos science fiction series (1979–1983). These books show, from many different perspectives, an advanced society's efforts at forced evolution (also see Progressor and Uplift). The Canopus series is based partly on Sufi concepts, to which Lessing was introduced in the mid-1960s by her "good friend and teacher", Idries Shah.[25] It also owes much to the approach of G. I. Gurdjieff in All and Everything. Earlier works of "inner space" fiction like Briefing for a Descent into Hell (1971) and Memoirs of a Survivor (1974) also connect to this theme (Lessing's interest turned to Sufism after coming to the realization that Marxism ignored spiritual matters, leaving her disillusioned).....read more...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris
_Lessing

cont....
 

BP: AN EXXON TAKEOVER OR ASSET SALE

http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/b
p-exxon-takeover/19550074/?
icid=main|main|dl1|link4|http%3A%2F
%2Fwww.dailyfinance.com%2Fstory%2
Fbp-exxon-takeover%2F19550074%2F
 

some of us are not offended by the Copeland satire. I have to wonder why a pastor and his wife would tippy-toe around the congregation, letting them continue to be deceived by the TBN crowd? We need more Christians who point out the liars and their lies. My spouse's mother was a victim of that crowd for years, sending so much money to them (Jim and Tammy, et al). Her Charismatic fellow church members at her charismatic church all believed the liars and supported each other in their delusions. When one of them was exposed it never gave them pause. They just kept on. I have to wonder what would have happened if the pastor would have wised them up. But he bought the lies too, seemingly.
 

cont....

Lucifer is called "the Divine Androgyne."

The infamous "Baphomet" portrayed in a drawing by 19th-century French occultist and "magnetic Luciferian" Alphonse Louis Constant - a.k.a. Eliphas Levi - is androgynous.

Not only is it half male and half female, it is also half animal and half human.

The so-called "androgyny" twaddle of the 19th century and even of today seems to be little more than an excuse to justify homosexuality.

Recall Dorothy's point about the role sex plays in the homosexual culture and how it has lowered the men (and women) involved to an animal level. This is because homosexuality is lust at its zenith...the sine qua non of compulsive self gratification.

And isn't that what the New Age Movement is all about at the end of the day???

Worship of oneself???


_______________________________

In THE SECRET DOCTRINE, H.P. Blavatsky blasphemously wrote:

The Secret Doctrine: The Synthesis of Science, Religion, and Philosophy

by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (1917)

"The compound name of Jehovah, or Jah- Hovah, meaning male life and female life — first androgynous, then separated into sexes — is used in this sense in ..."
______________________________

Gnostic teaching on "the androgyne"........


The writer of the Apocrphon of John continues:

"This is the First Thought, His Image; She became the womb of everything for She is prior to them all, the Mother-Father, the First Man [Anthropos], the Holy spirit, the Thrice-Male, the Thrice-Powerful, the Thrice-named Androgynous One, and the Eternal Aeon among the Invisible Ones, and the first to come forth."

This list of appellations is only comprehensible when taken in its correct context. The reference to "thrice-male" reflects the chauvinistic bias that occurs even in Hellenistic Gnosticism; "male" in this context meaning "spirit" or purity (note also "Father" as the term for the Absolute; a term popular not only in Christianity, but in the Platonism that proceeded it as well; although the translation "Parent" would also be valid). "Thrice" indicates greatness, or supremely, (as in "Thrice-greatest Hermes"). Or the hebrew saying "if three
times then it is so." In Gnostic argon, "male" indicates membership in the incorruptible realm, thus even Barbelo is described as "male". "Androgynous" (including both male and female qualities) means that this first principle embodies within itself the opposites as unity. The psychologist Carl Jung had a great deal to say regarding the Divine Androgyne as the principle for the unification of opposites. Most interesting, however, is the reference to the Supreme Godhead as Anthropos (a non-gender-specific term meaning "Man/Woman" or human being). This has parallels with the Indian Vedic Purusha (Primordial Godhead Person) myth; as well as with the (possibly Gnostically derived) Kabbalistic idea of Adom Cadmon primordial Man". In all these cosmologies there is the representation of the original Divine Personality as a sort of supra-cosmic person.....read more....

http://hubpages.com/hub/Sophia-begot-Barbelo
_______________________

Carl Jung has been called the "Father of neo-Gnosticism and the New Age."
 

cont....

Lucifer is called "the Divine Androgyne."

The infamous "Baphomet" portrayed in a drawing by 19th-century French occultist and "magnetic Luciferian" Alphonse Louis Constant - a.k.a. Eliphas Levi - is androgynous.

Not only is it half male and half female, it is also half animal and half human.

The so-called "androgyny" twaddle of the 19th century and even of today seems to be little more than an excuse to justify homosexuality.

Recall Dorothy's point about the role sex plays in the homosexual culture and how it has lowered the men (and women) involved to an animal level. This is because homosexuality is lust at its zenith...the sine qua non of compulsive self gratification.

And isn't that what the New Age Movement is all about at the end of the day???

Worship of oneself???


_______________________________

In THE SECRET DOCTRINE, H.P. Blavatsky blasphemously wrote:

The Secret Doctrine: The Synthesis of Science, Religion, and Philosophy

by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (1917)

"The compound name of Jehovah, or Jah- Hovah, meaning male life and female life — first androgynous, then separated into sexes — is used in this sense in ..."
______________________________

Gnostic teaching on "the androgyne"........


The writer of the Apocrphon of John continues:

"This is the First Thought, His Image; She became the womb of everything for She is prior to them all, the Mother-Father, the First Man [Anthropos], the Holy spirit, the Thrice-Male, the Thrice-Powerful, the Thrice-named Androgynous One, and the Eternal Aeon among the Invisible Ones, and the first to come forth."

This list of appellations is only comprehensible when taken in its correct context. The reference to "thrice-male" reflects the chauvinistic bias that occurs even in Hellenistic Gnosticism; "male" in this context meaning "spirit" or purity (note also "Father" as the term for the Absolute; a term popular not only in Christianity, but in the Platonism that proceeded it as well; although the translation "Parent" would also be valid). "Thrice" indicates greatness, or supremely, (as in "Thrice-greatest Hermes"). Or the hebrew saying "if three
times then it is so." In Gnostic argon, "male" indicates membership in the incorruptible realm, thus even Barbelo is described as "male". "Androgynous" (including both male and female qualities) means that this first principle embodies within itself the opposites as unity. The psychologist Carl Jung had a great deal to say regarding the Divine Androgyne as the principle for the unification of opposites. Most interesting, however, is the reference to the Supreme Godhead as Anthropos (a non-gender-specific term meaning "Man/Woman" or human being). This has parallels with the Indian Vedic Purusha (Primordial Godhead Person) myth; as well as with the (possibly Gnostically derived) Kabbalistic idea of Adom Cadmon primordial Man". In all these cosmologies there is the representation of the original Divine Personality as a sort of supra-cosmic person.....read more....

http://hubpages.com/hub/Sophia-begot-Barbelo
_______________________

Carl Jung has been called the "Father of neo-Gnosticism and the New Age."
 

YNST:

You may already be aware of all this; but, I thought I'd post this for general readership. Word of Faith or Word/Faith comes from Kenneth Hagin who got his beliefs from E. W. Kenyon [especially through books like Kenyon's The Power of Your Words].

From wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Faith

...Word of Faith preachers have likened faith to a "force"...

The real core of the belief is that God used this "force of faith" when He said "Let there be light." Their reasoning is that by extension we should be able to use this same "force" God used. In actuality, this amounts to witchcraft ["what I confess I possess"] -- not to mention blasphemy as this would equate us to God Himself.

While Hagee recognizes that Harry Potter is dangerous with its manipulation of "white" magic, it appears he fails to understand that this is really the basis for Word/Faith. This same false "white" or "good" force is used in Star Wars ["Let the force be with you."]and the Twilight vampire series also in opposition to the "black" or bad/evil force. We are not to tap into any "power" source; we are to pray to God and ask Him for His assistance. We don't command God to do anything. It's when we rely on 'self' that we get ourselves into trouble.

Word of Faith is sort of a doorway to more advanced false doctrines of the hyper-charismatics.

To me, one of the things that should just bust the whole thing wide open is the false teaching that God wants to heal everyone. If this were truly the case, the logical conclusion is that no one would die a physical, bodily death! Kenyon died. Hagin died. Hopefully, they are eternally alive...

By the way, I got baptized in Hagee's church. No one is exempt from the possibility of deception...
 

cont....

Lucifer is called "the Divine Androgyne."

The infamous "Baphomet" portrayed in a drawing by 19th-century French occultist and "magnetic Luciferian" Alphonse Louis Constant - a.k.a. Eliphas Levi - is androgynous.

Not only is it half male and half female, it is also half animal and half human.

The so-called "androgyny" twaddle of the 19th century and even of today seems to be little more than an excuse to justify homosexuality.

Recall Dorothy's point about the role sex plays in the homosexual culture and how it has lowered the men (and women) involved to an animal level. This is because homosexuality is lust at its zenith...the sine qua non of compulsive self gratification.

And isn't that what the New Age Movement is all about at the end of the day???

Worship of oneself???


_______________________________

In THE SECRET DOCTRINE, H.P. Blavatsky blasphemously wrote:

The Secret Doctrine: The Synthesis of Science, Religion, and Philosophy

by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (1917)

"The compound name of Jehovah, or Jah- Hovah, meaning male life and female life — first androgynous, then separated into sexes — is used in this sense in ..."
______________________________

Gnostic teaching on "the androgyne"........


The writer of the Apocrphon of John continues:

"This is the First Thought, His Image; She became the womb of everything for She is prior to them all, the Mother-Father, the First Man [Anthropos], the Holy spirit, the Thrice-Male, the Thrice-Powerful, the Thrice-named Androgynous One, and the Eternal Aeon among the Invisible Ones, and the first to come forth."

This list of appellations is only comprehensible when taken in its correct context. The reference to "thrice-male" reflects the chauvinistic bias that occurs even in Hellenistic Gnosticism; "male" in this context meaning "spirit" or purity (note also "Father" as the term for the Absolute; a term popular not only in Christianity, but in the Platonism that proceeded it as well; although the translation "Parent" would also be valid). "Thrice" indicates greatness, or supremely, (as in "Thrice-greatest Hermes"). Or the hebrew saying "if three
times then it is so." In Gnostic argon, "male" indicates membership in the incorruptible realm, thus even Barbelo is described as "male". "Androgynous" (including both male and female qualities) means that this first principle embodies within itself the opposites as unity. The psychologist Carl Jung had a great deal to say regarding the Divine Androgyne as the principle for the unification of opposites. Most interesting, however, is the reference to the Supreme Godhead as Anthropos (a non-gender-specific term meaning "Man/Woman" or human being). This has parallels with the Indian Vedic Purusha (Primordial Godhead Person) myth; as well as with the (possibly Gnostically derived) Kabbalistic idea of Adom Cadmon primordial Man". In all these cosmologies there is the representation of the original Divine Personality as a sort of supra-cosmic person.....read more....

http://hubpages.com/hub/Sophia-begot-Barbelo
_______________________

Carl Jung has been called the "Father of neo-Gnosticism and the New Age."
 

I am having a problem posting here again. I only hit the publish button once. Sorry about the multiple post. I don't think I am the only one having a problem.
 

Berlin Pushing For European Bankruptcy Framework With Provision For State Sovereignty

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/be
rlin-pushing-european-bankruptcy-
framework-provision-state-
sovereignty-give
 

Great work, Dorothy & Susanna!!!
 

Great work, Dorothy & Susanna!!!
 

Who says there are no jobs?

Photos: Department of Homeland Security delivers job offers on pizza boxes

From the TSA...

"Washington Reagan National Airport and Washington Dulles International Airport are now hiring Transportation Security Officers"

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?
nid=165&sid=2000678

(I guess 'big brother' and 'big sis' need lots of help these days!)
 

Anonymous 11:56
I have no doubt there are some stable relationships in the homosexual community. If you have followed homosexual newspapers for any length of time where the culture is exposed to public view, you will see that it is primarily based on a search for extremely large numbers of partners, particularly young looking or hot looking individuals. Looks are extremely important in that community.

Most people would rather take what they are taught about the homosexual community by the media rather than face what actually goes on. Some trips to homosexual bookstores could help straighten information out. I did do that to see first hand what actually was going on.

Read the two part series on the trial in the international court to see how information can get deliberately distorted.

Dorothy
 

Dorothy, HK,
Essentially I agree with you both
but really, "violent porno" and
"bad porn" are both just symptoms
of a disease called porn.
It's all bad.
I'm using the "b" word here.
No, not "bitch", but BAD.
All porn is evil.
Where is the line between
porn and "art" ?
I don't know.
God knows.
But I noticed that Polanski is
a free man as of today.
I'll bet he's a porn expert.

All porn is filthy.
Porn plus human nature
wrecks families, Continually.
24/7
There's filthy and then there's
very filthy. Why split hairs ?
It will all burn up in a fervent
heat, and soon.

YNAST,
You're words are like poetry.
Seriously.
Not poetry, more like medicine.
...No not medicine.
Living water.
Your words are living water.
Thank you.
Thank you for your faithfulness.

Anon. 1:37
When did Obama aquire the
right to tell BP anything about
itself ?
Obama can't take over BP
can he ?
We'll just see about this...
I'm telling Mr Rothschild !
 

This has nothing to do with New Age or end times or Israel or the Gulf.

It is about the insane world of those who run abortion clinics. Read the comments also.

http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2010/07/radio-reversal-drives-abortion-clinic.html
http://tinyurl.com/2a8ch6b

Makes me wonder what else they might be thinking of using that tool for.

Dorothy
 

From the Creative Minority Report:
http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2010/07/bad-government-identity-management.html
which leads to this document

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/ns_tic.pdf

One of the suggestions of the paper is that your government facilitated national identity could be linked to your cell phone, to your pharmacy, to your credit cards, your bank accounts, and your blog entries and comments . No, nothing to worry about here. DHS asks us to "Envision It!"

Dorothy
 

The Climategate Whitewash Continues

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB
10001424052748704075604575356611173
414140.html
 

New U.K. government bans Michael Savage

Conservative Party admin demands
repudiation of 'violent' statements

The new Conservative Party-led government of Prime Minister David Cameron informed Michael Savage it will continue the ban on the top-rated talk-radio host's entry to the United Kingdom unless he repudiates statements made on his broadcasts that were deemed a threat to public security.

The U.K. Border Agency told Savage through a letter from the treasury solicitor's office that his "exclusion" from the U.K. that began last year under the Labour Party government of Gordon Brown will continue "in the absence of clear, convincing and public evidence" that he has "repudiated his previous statements."

For more...
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?
fa=PAGE.view&pageId=177961
 

Anonymous 2:04

THANKS!
 

Another sign of the times-Young Men's Christian Association is now officially just the "Y".

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/07/12/YMCA-of-USA-drops-MCA-to-become-the-Y/UPI-10561278959705/

YG
 

IS BP's new riser already bent?

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/59507
 

I visit your blog first time. It is so nice and lovely. I like your idea of blog.
http://wofgtg.blogspot.com/
Thanks.
 

YG: There was never much Christian about the YMCA/YWCA all along. It's about time they stopped pretending. In fact, I read an article about the history of the "Y" and it made it clear why it was not Christian.
 

I agree the YMCA is no longer "Christian". However, it is interesting that they do still offer a substantial membership discount to pastors. At least my husband's YMCA does.

I am grateful for that.
 

The move to identify us through biometric data is quickly advancing. At work we are required to use our fingrprint to clock in and out and this weekend I was at Disney's ESPN Wide World of Sports in Orlando for a youth athletic tournament and they asked for your fingerprint to enter the park (ostensibly as a way to keep people from cheating and giving each other their ticket to enter the park). The process is so quick and easy it is alarming.

Another Texan
 

The story about the Univ of Chicago professor is very distressing. Is that a CaTHOLIC UNIVERSITY, DOES ANYONE KNOW?

Curious.
 

Just want to make a quick point: what really determines whether someone or an institution is FULL adherence to the doctrine and to what is called the deposit of the faith. I don't care if it's a university or some other organization, if it doesn't fully adhere to Catholicism AND act accordingly, then quite simply it's not. Hans Kung, for instance, can teach all manners of heresies (from Catholic standpoint) as long as he doesn't claim it's/he's Catholic. Disappointing, yes; distressing, no. Plus I don't see why Craig needed to apologize for fake Copeland, as I thought it was pretty harmless derision and funny too.
 

Feel free to insert "Catholic is" where you feel it's needed in anonymous 11:11.
 

Re:YMCA name change

In the new logo, an upside down pyramid makes up the right corner of the "Y".
 

Well, here we go.

Satellite images show oil in the loop current and in Atlantic waters:

http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/satellite-shows-possible-oil-slicks-southeast-florida-coast-photos
 

To Craig and Anonymous 1:50:
Thank you for your responses. I agree with much of what if not most of what you say. Yes, Craig, I am aware of what you wrote about Word Faith and the force of our words.

I do not tip-toe around our congregation. We are not the senior leaders of our church and my husband is in a different place than I regarding understanding of the inroads of the NAM and how that works out in our affiliations. This puts me in a difficult position. I must be wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove. I have shared my situation with leaders of ODM’s well-known to many on this blog and they are sympathetic and supportive of my circumstance. I do the best I can in the place that I find myself trusting the Lord daily for grace and direction.

I have experienced the gamut of various streams of Protestantism (including three decades of ministry) from extreme fundamentalism to extreme “charismania”. None is without its snares. One of the things that attracted us out of the extreme “cessationist” circle we were in, into our current church was the recognition of dangers of Halloween celebrations. To this day, nearly all the more Baptistic ministries we were associated with still see no harm in this area.

None of us in any category are immune to deception. When I reconnect with some of the folks from our past churches I am surprised to see some of their associations. Let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he falls. We are to watch. Thanks to all on this blog site who are watchers. May we sharpen each other. My point is that we be wise as serpents and harmless as doves and always endeavoring to live out the fruit of the Spirit.

I am amazed at the place I find myself and the growing influence the Lord has allowed me. I have been given a platform to speak and have been faithful to speak the truth in love. Until I come to the place at which I cannot possibly continue to associate, I will continue to walk in this path and trust the Lord.

To Anonymous 1:50, I am very sorry for the pain caused to your mother-in-law by that charismatic sector. It is wrong and I denounce it. I have never been on board with it and have taken much heat and even persecution for my stance from some within my church.

May our speech be seasoned with salt. Let no corrupt communications come out of our mouths. Avoid foolish babblings. Yes, expose heresy and every false doctrine, but speak the truth in love that it may minister GRACE to the hearers.

YesNaSpanishTown
 

To Craig and Anonymous 1:50:
Thank you for your responses. I agree with much of what if not most of what you say. Yes, Craig, I am aware of what you wrote about Word Faith and the force of our words.

I do not tip-toe around our congregation. We are not the senior leaders of our church and my husband is in a different place than I regarding understanding of the inroads of the NAM and how that works out in our affiliations. This puts me in a difficult position. I must be wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove. I have shared my situation with leaders of ODM’s well-known to many on this blog and they are sympathetic and supportive of my circumstance. I do the best I can in the place that I find myself trusting the Lord daily for grace and direction.

I have experienced the gamut of various streams of Protestantism (including three decades of ministry) from extreme fundamentalism to extreme “charismania”. None is without its snares. One of the things that attracted us out of the extreme “cessationist” circle we were in, into our current church was the recognition of dangers of Halloween celebrations. To this day, nearly all the more Baptistic ministries we were associated with still see no harm in this area.

None of us in any category are immune to deception. When I reconnect with some of the folks from our past churches I am surprised to see some of their associations. Let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he falls. We are to watch. Thanks to all on this blog site who are watchers. May we sharpen each other. My point is that we be wise as serpents and harmless as doves and always endeavoring to live out the fruit of the Spirit.

...continued
 

...continued

I am amazed at the place I find myself and the growing influence the Lord has allowed me. I have been given a platform to speak and have been faithful to speak the truth in love. Until I come to the place at which I cannot possibly continue to associate, I will continue to walk in this path and trust the Lord.

To Anonymous 1:50, I am very sorry for the pain caused to your mother-in-law by that charismatic sector. It is wrong and I denounce it. I have never been on board with it and have taken much heat and even persecution for my stance from some within my church.

May our speech be seasoned with salt. Let no corrupt communications come out of our mouths. Avoid foolish babblings. Yes, expose heresy and every false doctrine, but speak the truth in love that it may minister GRACE to the hearers.

YesNaSpanishTown
 

Sorry for the double posting.

YNST
 

Aquifers in Florida vulnerable to contamination by Gulf of Mexico.

Also reports in Pensacola indicate that Escambia county’s Aquifer has already tested positive for trace amounts of oil and corexit.

http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/gulf-of-mexico-feeds-floridas-aquifers-50-of-public-water-tested-less-than-10-years-old-and-vulnerable-to-contamination

or http://tinyurl.com/2ak6pt6
 

I was debating a Liberal Anglican on another forum, and here's what he wrote"

"In Fox's new book called "A New Reformation!" he proclaims that we are in fact confronted with two churches: one expressed by the image of the Punitive Father, personified by a rigidly hierarchical church structure, repression of the feminine, spreading of homophobia and the elimination of internal dissent; and the other expressed by the feminine figure of Wisdom, personified by a Mother/Father God of justice and compassion. It is time for Christians to choose whom it will follow: an angry exclusionary god or the loving open path of wisdom."


Savvy
 

YMCA certainly did have a foundation in Christianity. Intial YMCA's were founded around bible study and prayer. Do not know enough of founders. But DL Mood and John mott played particular roles. Looking at history things changed over time. It is now really a hot bed at the core of new age ideas well deviated from the base. http://www.veniceymca.com/documents/ymca_history.pdf
 

looking a little more into John Mott he may have start a slide as really played role in Wordwid council of churches and other factors. Going to look into john mott more. DL Moody though not ever known problems, but perhaps dominionism even leaking in there
 

John mott is really not a good thing, so may have led the twisting. Although need to look into DL Moody a bit more. Never had reason to do so, but never had reason to examine Henrietta Meiers either and was shocked what found when did. Good article on John MOtt http://www.veniceymca.com/documents/ymca_history.pdf
 

To YesNaSpanishTown

Just take comfort in the knowledge that God obviously has a purpose for you to be there when some, who are currently being led astray by New Age influences, finally do come around and need someone to be there for them - to help them gain a perspective.
 

Haven't seen anything really concerning regarding DL moody so the shift probably happened there after. The worst find is association with an american zionist.
 

Really is a stark contrast between DL Moody and John Mott... night and day. Light and Dark
 

Compare these quotes- John Mott:
As the President has indicated, my life has been a life of travel - for 60 years constantly moving over the wide world on journeys which first and last have taken me to 83 countries, and, what is more significant, to most of them again and again.
John Raleigh Mott

Extreme nationalism and Bolshevism have broken up the old world, a new world is in the making. It is literally true that old things are passing away; all things may become new, granted we have wise, unselfish, and determined guides.
John Raleigh Mott

Such highly qualitative leadership is demanded especially in the realm of the fostering of right international relations. Here the demand is simply irresistible.
John Raleigh Mott

There is an irresistible demand to strengthen the leadership of the constructive forces of the world at the present momentous time. This is true because of stupendous, almost unbelievable changes which have taken place in recent years on every continent.
John Raleigh Mott

We have nothing less to do than to get inside of whole peoples and change their motives and dispositions.
John Raleigh Mott
 

DL Moody quotes:
A good example is far better than a good precept.
Dwight L. Moody

A man ought to live so that everybody knows he is a Christian... and most of all, his family ought to know.
Dwight L. Moody

A rule I have had for years is: to treat the Lord Jesus Christ as a personal friend. His is not a creed, a mere doctrine, but it is He Himself we have.
Dwight L. Moody

Character is what a man is in the dark.
Dwight L. Moody

Church attendance is as vital to a disciple as a transfusion of rich, healthy blood to a sick man.
Dwight L. Moody

Death may be the King of terrors... but Jesus is the King of kings!
Dwight L. Moody

Faith makes all things possible... love makes all things easy.
Dwight L. Moody

Give me a man who says this one thing I do, and not those fifty things I dabble in.
Dwight L. Moody

God doesn't seek for golden vessels, and does not ask for silver ones, but He must have clean ones.
Dwight L. Moody

God never made a promise that was too good to be true.
Dwight L. Moody

I have had more trouble with myself than with any other man.
Dwight L. Moody

I know the Bible is inspired because it inspires me.
Dwight L. Moody

If I take care of my character, my reputation will take care of me.
Dwight L. Moody

It is a masterpiece of the devil to make us believe that children cannot understand religion. Would Christ have made a child the standard of faith if He had known that it was not capable of understanding His words?
Dwight L. Moody

Never think that Jesus commanded a trifle, nor dare to trifle with anything He has commanded.
Dwight L. Moody

No man can resolve himself into Heaven.
Dwight L. Moody

Preparation for old age should begin not later than one's teens. A life which is empty of purpose until 65 will not suddenly become filled on retirement.
Dwight L. Moody

The Bible will keep you from sin, or sin will keep you from the Bible.
Dwight L. Moody

There are many of us that are willing to do great things for the Lord, but few of us are willing to do little things.
Dwight L. Moody

There's no better book with which to defend the Bible than the Bible itself.
Dwight L. Moody
We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell anybody it does. Lighthouses don't fire cannons to call attention to their shining- they just shine.
Dwight L. Moody

We can stand affliction better than we can prosperity, for in prosperity we forget God.
Dwight L. Moody

We talk about heaven being so far away. It is within speaking distance to those who belong there. Heaven is a prepared place for a prepared people.
Dwight L. Moody

Where I was born and where and how I have lived is unimportant. It is what I have done with where I have been that should be of interest.
Dwight L. Moody

Where one man reads the Bible, a hundred read you and me.
Dwight L. Moody
 

more john mott quotes:
John R. Mott on: Choose Topic...EvangelismHoly SpiritIntercessionKnowledgeMissionsPerseverancePowerPrayerRevivalSinUnityVision

It is possible for the most obscure person in a church, with a heart right toward God, to exercise as much power for the evangelization of the world, as it is for those who stand in the most prominent positions.
Topics: Evangelism

In all ages conformity to the world by Christians has resulted in lack of spiritual life and a consequent lack of spiritual vision and enterprise. A secularized or self-centered Church can never evangelize the world.
Topics: Evangelism

The GREATEST HINDRANCES to the evangelization of the world are those within the Church.
Topics: Evangelism

In order to have real prayer and action to change things, we must have conviction as to the need of prayer and action. In order to have conviction as to the need of prayer and action, we must have knowledge.
Topics: Knowledge, Prayer

The history of missions is a history of prayer. Everything vital to the success of the world's evangelization hinges on prayer.
Topics: Missions, Prayer

Prayer alone will overcome the gigantic difficulties which confront the workers in every field.
Topics: Missions, Prayer


A necessary pre-cursor of any great spiritual awakening is a spirit of deep humiliation growing out of a consciousness of sin, and fresh revelation of the holiness and power and glory of God.
Topics: Power, Revival

Prayer is the greatest force that we can wield. It is the greatest talent which God has granted us. He has given it to every Christian.
Topics: Prayer

The men that will change the colleges and seminaries here represented are the men that will spend the most time alone with God... It takes time for the fires to burn. It takes time for God to draw near and for us to know that He is there. It takes time to assimilate His truth.
Topics: Prayer

It is easy to magnify human personality and agencies. Prayer recognizes that God is the source of life and light and energy.
Topics: Prayer, Power

Let methods be changed, therefore, if necessary, that prayer may be given its true place. Let there be days set apart for intercession; let the original purpose of the monthly concert of prayer for missions be given a larger place; let missionary prayer cycles be used by families and by individual Christians.
Topics: Prayer, Missions, Intercession

The Church has not yet touched the fringe of the possibilities of intercessory prayer. Her largest victories will be witnessed when individual Christians everywhere come to recognize their priesthood unto God and day by day give themselves unto prayer.
 

I have been a member of the YMCA here in Battle Creek for over a year. It significantly helped me become physically healthy and lose over 45 lbs last year (and so far has helped me maintain). However, it doesn't do anything for me spiritually. Whatever it use to be, all it is now is just a fitness club with non-profit status (although membership is not cheap).

I thought the YMCA always used a Y with a triangle as it's logo. Maybe this explains the song by the Village People.

If you'd like to watch the original song, just follow the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9OO0S5w2k
 

Warning, the video is nauseating.
 

I think the YMCA been involved in varied "World peace" and globalization efforts. My step-grandfather was very active with the YMCA in dublin. It was all reaching out to others apart from the violence.
 

It looks like New Age Newt Gingrich is positioning himself to be a candidate for president in 2012. Over the years he certainly has been working hard to keep himself in the public eye, attempting to position himself as a conservative. Of course he couldn't keep in the public eye without a lot of cooperation from the media.

Let's hope that there aren't enough foolish people out there to keep that nightmare alive.

Article
Gingrich 'More Serious Than Ever' About 2012 Presidential Bid
Monday, 12 Jul 2010 08:06 PM

*By: David A. Patten*
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich called the Obama presidency a "disaster"
Monday and said he is more serious than ever about running for president.

Gingrich's remarks came during a fund-raising and training event for local
GOP candidates in Des Moines, Iowa.

"I've never been this serious," Gingrich told The Associated Press.

The former speaker predicted that Obama would be a one-term president, and
said Obama would displace former President Jimmy Carter as the worst
president of modern times, according to the AP report.

Conservatives and political analysts greeted Gingrich's announcement with a
blend of enthusiasm and skepticism.

Grover Norquist, the founder of the Americans for Tax Reform organization
that urges candidates to commit to the anti-tax Taxpayer Protection Pledge,...."

Grover Norquist certainly can get the homosexual community to support old Newt. Bedfellows that aren't so strange.

Dorothy
 

Newt Gingrich is a very evil man who I have tracked since 1982. I first learned of him when Marilyn Ferguson wrote of the brave Georgian Congressman who was doing so much to advance the New Age agenda. Mark Satin's NEW OPTIONS newsletter in 1985 as I recall gave Gingrich high marks for the best New Age / Internationalist voting record in Congress along with Marcy Kapteyn of Toledo, Ohio. One of Newt Gingrich's more recent books, A CONTRACT WITH THE EARTH, says it all -- EARTH WORSHIP, the probable real IMAGE OF THE BEAST, the WHOLE EARTH itself.

Constance
 

Y M C A -- one of Maurice Strong's earliest internationalist connections itself!

CONSTANCE
 

I am on Dr. Monteith's program at 3 p.m. Pacific time and 6 p.m. Eastern time. My own program is set to go on the microeffect.com at 8 p.m.

Constance
 

Wayne Madsen on the oil spill

http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Gulf-oil-disaster-trut-by-Wayne-Madsen-100713-22.html
 

Constance,
I more than agree with you about Newt Gingrich. He was the key note speaker just recently at the national alzheimers conference 2010
in which Positive ID corp. formerlly Veri Chip and Digital Angel was the head sponsor. You can read all about it in Positive ID's website.
John
 

Teens Now Getting High Off 'Digital Drugs'

MUSTANG, Oklahoma – I-dosing on "digital drugs" is becoming an alarming new trend amongst teens.

Web sites are luring kids with free downloads of "digital drugs," which are audio files designed to induce drug-like effects. The sites claim it is a safe and legal way to get high, but parents fear it could lead to illegal drug use.

Videos of teenagers trying digital drugs are all over YouTube, leaving parents, educators and law enforcement officials with the Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs concerned.

"Kids are going to flock to these sites just to see what it is about and it can lead them to other places," said OBNDD spokesperson Mark Woodward.

The digital drugs use binaural or two-toned technology to alter your brainwaves and mental state.

"Well it's just scary, definitely scary. Just one more thing to look out for," said parent Kelly Johnson.

Recently Mustang Public Schools sent out a letter warning parents about the new trend after several high school students reported having physiological effects after trying one of these digital downloads. Students and graduates are still talking about it.

"I heard it was like some weird demons and stuff through an iPod and he was like freaking out," said Mustang High School student Meghan Edwards.

"People do need to be concerned about it. It's not just something that should be overlooked," said Shelbi Reed, Mustang High School graduate.

"We had never come across anything like this and anything that is going to cause these physiological effects in a student, that causes us concern," said Shannon Rigsby, Mustang Public Schools Communication Officer.

Mustang schools are doing what they can to put a stop to it, including cracking down on the use of cell phone and other technology while on campus.

The Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics said parental awareness is key to preventing future problems, since I-dosing could indicate a willingness to experiment with drugs.

"So that's why we want parents to be aware of what sites their kids are visiting and not just dismiss this as something harmless on the computer," Woodward said. "If you want to reach these kids, save these kids and keep these kids safe, parents have to be aware. They've got to take action."

Another concern the OBN has is that many of these I-dosing sites lure visitors to actual drug and drug paraphernalia sites.

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=12793977
 

There was a Futurist magazine I picked up in the early '80s but which came out in the '70s. It featured conversations with Alvin Toffler and Hazel Henderson. There was an article titled: Would you vote for a Futurist?
In the article there was a section on Gingrich and the 1974 campaign which he almost won.

I went to hear him speak in September of 1984, so when Barbara Morris wrote about him in her newsletter I contacted her to let her know what I knew. I put together a three pager which was circulated through her newsletter.

Good old Newt was a an early Futurist, a group tied closely to the New Age movement.
http://www.themoralliberal.com/2010/01/30/gingrich-toffler-and-gore-a-peculiar-trio-steve-farrell/
http://tinyurl.com/245cyes
This article is a good summary of his early involvements.

I could document most of the references in the above article from my file.

Constance and I contributed to the New American piece. I had heard that Jasper was doing a piece on Gingrich and asked Constance what she knew. (She knew a lot more than I did at the time, though I knew a lot. Her research took a page of references in one of her newsletters.) As a result, there was a section of the article specifically connecting Gingrich's tie to New Age. I was told that several thousand copies of that magazine sold in DC, and that it may have played a part in the rebellion of the new Republicans in Congress against him.

I know that that section was excerpted in many alternative publications at the time.

Newt is a smooth talker whose personal life may keep him from going further. We can only hope.

Dorothy
 

JD:

Wow. There's yet another way to alter consciousness. (Can someone say "hypnosis?" There's a reason why this is no longer recognized as a legitimate means of 'recapturing' past events in the legal community.) The sad thing is that the article doesn't take into account a spiritual perspective. But, why would I think that anyway...
 

Loop current currently right over oil spill:

http://wavcis.csi.lsu.edu/forecasts/forecasts.asp?modelspec=currents
 

From the Financial Times (07/13/10)

OBAMA FACES GROWING CREDIBILITY CRISIS

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/434315b2-
8ea6-11df-8a67-00144feab49a.html
 

BP Committing Ecocide on Islands in the Gulf

http://oilprice.com/Environment/Oil
-Spills/The-Truth-About-the-Gulf-
Oil-disaster.html
 

COnstance,
I see that Maurice Strong was president of Canadian YMCA. YMCA even back in my grandfather's day was wrapped up in globism, for sure.
It is interesting though in tracking where the YMCA got off track and it really reflects varied deviations. Also shows danger of the moral/character building focus that became hallmark. Examing the history of YMCA is much like the downgrading of Israel. The height of YMCA was probably during DL Moody's time and James Mott began it down the perciptious trail, much like Jereboam with Israel. WOuld be interested in thoughts on DL moody's ymca or thoughts even on DL Moody.
 

There is a timely article at Berit Kjos' site

http://crossroad.to/articles2/006/conspiracy2.htm

She writes of the communist influence of Harry Ward and has this to say:

According to this Congressional Report, Harry Ward also taught "Christian ethics" at Union Theological Seminary [funded by the Rockefellers], presided over the Federal Council of Churches, chaired the American Civil Liberties Union, and worked with the Y.M.C.A., Y.W.C.A. and the Interchurch World Movement.