Friday, July 09, 2010

JAVIER SOLANA R - E - T - I - R - E - D???? JUST VIEW THE PICTURE AND READ THE RUSSIAN STORY



The following looks like a 'harmonic convergence' of Ezekiel 39 and the "Middle East 'Peace' Process" to me.  What do you think?



MOSCOW, July 8 (Itar-Tass) - Russia favours discussions on all problems with Iran in the course of the Sextet talks, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said.
The Sextet jointly with former EU High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP) Javier Solana insisted the talks with Iran focused on concerns over its nuclear programme. We intend to discuss these moments now,” the Russian diplomat told journalists on Thursday.
“We believe that we cannot ignore Iran’s proposals, which were put forth in 2008 and confirmed in 2009. It is necessary to consider all proposals that both parties put forth,” Ryabkov stressed.


Stay tuned!

CONSTANCE

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Anonymous said...

I'm sure the sabotage of the Deepwater Horizon rig was set up to help facilitate this new currency, the Tierra. Thanks to JD and Susanna for first breaking this story.

http://www.ethicalmarkets.com/2009/08/16/a-proposal-for-a-carbon-based-international-reserve-currency-as-a-major-component-of-the-un-funding-system-for-development-and-climate-mitigation-and-adaptation/

or http://tinyurl.com/2bw4335

YG

Dawn said...

Dorothy and Constance--
Thank you for posting about Newt Gingrich. I would suggest all here to save this information in another form. I know if he does decided to run, we need to do what we can to get this information out to others.

Dawn said...

JD and others--

Now I feel totally off the ball. I had seen the article about the digital drugs (since it is local for me). I didn't even think about it being connected to anything.

The population of this town is around 15,000. The school is in the highest bracket (6A) because the district overlaps into SW OKC.

Anonymous said...

Tests on new cap delayed after seismic survey Gee. Why am I not surprised?

http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/bp-delays-cap-test-after-seismic-survey-for-gas-pockets-ruptures-are-an-incredibly-big-concern

YG

Anonymous said...

Actually, none of should be at all surprised that the NWO would want to place Newt Gingrich in as the next Republican candidate for President in 2012? It's a win-win for them.

We must NEVER forget about the false Left-Right paradigm (and just how much the American people are being deceived).

Jaclyn said...

Constance, I have to ask you a question.

Do you agree with many following the ENP that July 20, is the cut off date? Can this 7 year agreement still be the one mentioned in scripture without the man of sin being revealed by July 20?

Your thought please ;-)

Dawn said...

I received this email this morning from my friend Susan:

In a few days the mid term (3 1/2 year) review of the European Neighborhood Policy (ENP) is due and then on July 20th a march on the Temple Mount by Jews calling for rebuilding of the Temple is planned. By the way, July 20th, is 1260 days before the end of the ENP and it's also the 9th of Av, a historic day of mourning for Israel.

Here's a link to an article about the plans for July 20th.

http://www.borntowatch.com/

Anonymous said...

I just noticed something odd and wondered what others here might think of it.

Back on JUne 17th from Bloomberg News we hear a very frightening report from Matt Simmons, founder of the Ocean Energy Institute. He claims that the gov't and BP are not being straight with us. He says that the best information we have gotten thus far was from the Thomas Jefferson, the US's largest research vessel. Listen to this clip from Bloomberg news.At around 1:15 we hear that the Thomas Jefferson got directed to stop a s....

A what?

At this point, Simmons' words are cut or he corrects himself quickly to say to stop an "ocean flerm happy program."

Take a moment to listen to this whole clip. There is very important information in the whole thing regarding the fire that was coming not from the rig, but from the water itself. He also claims that the casing is blown out and cannot be fixed with relief wells. I had wondered over the weekend why in the world they were again trying to cap the well with only a couple weeks to go to hit the relief wells, especially since BP had already said that capping the well could cause an underwater explosion. Then suddenly there's a news blackout and the live streams by BP to the cap were also blacked out last night. MY guess was that they went through this whole balloon and pony show about the new cap in order to prepare America for the worst- that the gusher can't be fixed.

Can someone please tell me what an ocean flerm happy program is?

Watch and pay special attention at 1:17.

http://www.libnot.com/2010/06/17/matthew-simmons-of-the-ocean-energy-institute-says-nuclear-device-only-option-to-stop-oil-leak-video/

YG

Anonymous said...

YG,

That's "ocean floor mapping program".

Anonymous said...

Thanks anonymous. I guess it's time to buy a hearing aid!

YG

Anonymous said...

YG

That being said, it still sounds like he said 'to stop a s...'

submarine? The rest of that sentence is cut out before he says ocean floor mapping program.

Anonymous said...

Although hotly contested as a bad source of legitimate information, what if even half of this is true?

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/nato-orders-canadian-troops-to-us-as-super-weapon-prepared-to-end-gulf-oil-spill/

http://tinyurl.com/27me3d5

Anonymous said...

More and more Americans (both on the Left, as well as on the Right) are preparing for social unrest!

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0710
/americans-preparing-social-
collapse/

Anonymous said...

YG,

Thanks for the Bloomberg/Simmons video. Simmons may be right about the “nuke option”. In any regard, this disaster in the Gulf furthers the agenda he and his cronies advocate.

Don’t overlook the connections to the globalist agenda….

Matthew Simmons advocates a “Copenhagen style global Marshal Plan” to restructure control of the earth’s natural resources, including all energy and water resources aka Agenda 21, MDG’s.

For a synopsis of Simmon’s views, see the 27 page PDF file at his Ocean Energy website entitled” At Risk: The Sustainability of Oil and Gas”.

http://www.oceanenergy.org/matthew_simmons_2010.asp

The presentation concludes with…

Simmons & Co. International – Investment Bankers to the Energy Industry.

A nice line of work, if you can get it.


omots

Anonymous said...

YG:

I agree with you - as the 'jury is still out' (as far as many are concerned) as to the rumors of a possible April 20th torpedo attack (via submarine) by North Korea on the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig (which was built and financed by South Korea's Hyundai Heavy Industries Co., Ltd).

Also, keep in mind that North Korea and South Korea remain 'in a state of war' with each other, due to South Korea's refusal to sign the Armistice Agreement of 1953 ending the Korean War. Thus, they would not be in violation of 'the existing rules of war.'

This horrific scenario would have the United States 'backed into a corner' as far as considering any possible retaliation against North Korea (even if it did happen in the waters of the Gulf of Mexico).

Anonymous said...

Omots,

Thanks for the link and info. As I did more research I saw that Simmons is a member of the CFR and that he wrote a book backing The Club of Rome's 1970 paper, 'The Limits of Growth', which pretty much introduced Sustainable Development to the world.

There's an interesting aside to the rumors , (possibly unfounded) that Canadian troops have been put on 72 hour notice for deployment to the Gulf, and that 46 warships and 7000 marines have been deployed to Costa Rica. I am wondering who is deploying them? Is it NATO? Accordingly, the whole Gulf solution may be completely out of the US government's hands at this point! See link:

http://www.acus.org/publication/alliance-reborn-atlantic-compact-21st-century

Therefore, regardless of who or what (negligence, environmentalists, North Korea, Russia, Iran????)caused the gulf disaster, the possible solution may in fact bring in the remaining pieces of the NWO quite rapidly.

Anonymous said...

Constance,

Part of the New Age scheme is challenging gender stereotypes, which means women will have to get in touch with their masculine side and men will have to get in touch with their feminine side. Real men and women need not apply.

The Church of England is now looking at a proposal that would let their Bishops become Nuns!

http://tiny.cc/yjaa5


Savvy

JD said...

OMOTS, Hopper,

A interesting point I would like to bring up is that Simmons has been used as a expert for the Council on Foreign Relations concerning oil production. Some have reported him as a member, but I have not found evidence to support such.

http://tinyurl.com/27zlb7w

Anonymous said...

JD:

Interesting indeed. More and more this reeks of something worse than oil fumes. Carbon tax? New international currency? NATO troops on US soil? Mark of the beast at our doorsteps?

Keeping my eyes focused on the cross.

YG

Anonymous said...

Well, if we’re going to think worst case scenario about the gulf “oil spill”….the deployment of warships and troops to Costa Rica may be in preparation for a possible tsunami generated by a massive methane bubble or nuke option mishap. If such were to occur, we could expect to see the failure of a number of gulf coast governments. And the flood of refugees coming from Mexico, central and South America would make the first tsunami pale by comparison.

Anonymous said...

The troops and warships could also be used to secure the Panama Canal, in the worst case scenario.

Anonymous said...

Out of the mouths of BP themselves:
'Fearing an undersea explosion, BP has announced two setbacks in the effort to stop its catastrophic oil spill, saying it has temporarily halted work on one relief well and delayed pressure tests on a tighter-fitting cap it hopes will stop the flow.'

BP calls the relief wells, which are supposed to plug the leak with mud and cement, "the sole means to permanently seal and isolate the well."

I think we'd all better start praying in earnest now.

http://www.aolnews.com/gulf-oil-spill/article/new-delay-for-bp-spill-drilling-of-relief-well-halted/19553428

YG

Jaclyn said...

FYI, I asked Rich Peterson the same question I asked Constance, re: July 20, and the ENP, (with his permission) I am posting his response is below.
***********************************

There have been many times I've personally believed the ENP to be the"covenant with many" because vast amounts of prophetic pieces havefallen into place during this time frame. However, I've never been100% sure and reserved saying definitively that this is the covenant.Rather I've voiced my opinion that it looks like the covenant and wewill know for certain by the end of July 2010.

There is one area I’ve never been able to reconcile with the ENPtheory and that is the Gog-Magog war. Recall that Israel burns theweapons used against it for a total of 7 years. If this war happenedafter the signing of the ENP then that would mean these weapons willbe burned into the millennium period. I find this unlikely. DavidButterfield believes the Gog-Magog war—a war fought with sticks andstones--to be at the end of the millennium. I also have problems withthis theory.

I still firmly believe the Barcelona Process is the center piece ofthe covenant for many reasons. The ENP is not the only political,social, and economic platform being confirmed from the BarcelonaProcess, the Union of the Mediterranean is also. This was initiatedby France and Germany in 2008 (Spain also took an active role inthis). However, I have not seen a 7-year time frame associated withwith Union for the Mediterranean but its funding mechanism fallswithin the 7-year ENP agreement.

It is entirely possible that we see another re-launch of the BarcelonaProcess at a global scale. Countries who wish to enter intoassociation with the European Union are required to undergo“regionalization”. Many have been already been working through thisprocess. South American countries, for example, are now complainingthat they feel trapped between a rock and hard place because they needto do business with the EU if they are to survive. Many have arrivedat the conclusion that although the EU professes to be democratic theexact opposite is true. The Alliance of Civilizations can not befound in regional economic and security organizations. Again, the AoCoriginates from the social dimension of the Barcelona Process.

It is hard to know for sure but one can see we are extremely close.Anyone who would say that the ENP was a cry of wolf and that we canforget about prophecy would be speaking foolishly. I am hoping thatthe pre-trib rapture folks have it right, yet this is a hope for thebest while mentally preparing for the worst. As Constance often says,time and events will tell.

Rich

Jaclyn said...

FYI, I asked Rich Peterson the same question I asked Constance, re: July 20, and the ENP, (with his permission) I am posting his response is below.
***********************************

There have been many times I've personally believed the ENP to be the"covenant with many" because vast amounts of prophetic pieces havefallen into place during this time frame. However, I've never been100% sure and reserved saying definitively that this is the covenant.Rather I've voiced my opinion that it looks like the covenant and wewill know for certain by the end of July 2010.

There is one area I’ve never been able to reconcile with the ENPtheory and that is the Gog-Magog war. Recall that Israel burns theweapons used against it for a total of 7 years. If this war happenedafter the signing of the ENP then that would mean these weapons willbe burned into the millennium period. I find this unlikely. DavidButterfield believes the Gog-Magog war—a war fought with sticks andstones--to be at the end of the millennium. I also have problems withthis theory.

I still firmly believe the Barcelona Process is the center piece ofthe covenant for many reasons. The ENP is not the only political,social, and economic platform being confirmed from the BarcelonaProcess, the Union of the Mediterranean is also. This was initiatedby France and Germany in 2008 (Spain also took an active role inthis). However, I have not seen a 7-year time frame associated withwith Union for the Mediterranean but its funding mechanism fallswithin the 7-year ENP agreement.

It is entirely possible that we see another re-launch of the BarcelonaProcess at a global scale. Countries who wish to enter intoassociation with the European Union are required to undergo“regionalization”. Many have been already been working through thisprocess. South American countries, for example, are now complainingthat they feel trapped between a rock and hard place because they needto do business with the EU if they are to survive. Many have arrivedat the conclusion that although the EU professes to be democratic theexact opposite is true. The Alliance of Civilizations can not befound in regional economic and security organizations. Again, the AoCoriginates from the social dimension of the Barcelona Process.

It is hard to know for sure but one can see we are extremely close.Anyone who would say that the ENP was a cry of wolf and that we canforget about prophecy would be speaking foolishly. I am hoping thatthe pre-trib rapture folks have it right, yet this is a hope for thebest while mentally preparing for the worst. As Constance often says,time and events will tell.

Rich

Jaclyn said...

FYI, I asked Rich Peterson the same question I asked Constance, re: July 20, and the ENP, (with his permission) I am posting his response is below.
***********************************

There have been many times I've personally believed the ENP to be the"covenant with many" because vast amounts of prophetic pieces havefallen into place during this time frame. However, I've never been100% sure and reserved saying definitively that this is the covenant.Rather I've voiced my opinion that it looks like the covenant and wewill know for certain by the end of July 2010.

There is one area I’ve never been able to reconcile with the ENPtheory and that is the Gog-Magog war. Recall that Israel burns theweapons used against it for a total of 7 years. If this war happenedafter the signing of the ENP then that would mean these weapons willbe burned into the millennium period. I find this unlikely. DavidButterfield believes the Gog-Magog war—a war fought with sticks andstones--to be at the end of the millennium. I also have problems withthis theory.

I still firmly believe the Barcelona Process is the center piece ofthe covenant for many reasons. The ENP is not the only political,social, and economic platform being confirmed from the BarcelonaProcess, the Union of the Mediterranean is also. This was initiatedby France and Germany in 2008 (Spain also took an active role inthis). However, I have not seen a 7-year time frame associated withwith Union for the Mediterranean but its funding mechanism fallswithin the 7-year ENP agreement.

It is entirely possible that we see another re-launch of the BarcelonaProcess at a global scale. Countries who wish to enter intoassociation with the European Union are required to undergo“regionalization”. Many have been already been working through thisprocess. South American countries, for example, are now complainingthat they feel trapped between a rock and hard place because they needto do business with the EU if they are to survive. Many have arrivedat the conclusion that although the EU professes to be democratic theexact opposite is true. The Alliance of Civilizations can not befound in regional economic and security organizations. Again, the AoCoriginates from the social dimension of the Barcelona Process.

It is hard to know for sure but one can see we are extremely close.Anyone who would say that the ENP was a cry of wolf and that we canforget about prophecy would be speaking foolishly. I am hoping thatthe pre-trib rapture folks have it right, yet this is a hope for thebest while mentally preparing for the worst. As Constance often says,time and events will tell.

Rich

Jaclyn said...

Constance, feel free to delete two of the above messages, I'm so sorry for posting it three times but my computer simply tried to navigate away from the page and would not confirm they had posted, so I kept trying.

So sorry!!

Anonymous said...

TYNST interesting on Harry ward and will need to ceck that article out. What I am really trying to examine is the early history of YMCA, did they always have twisted view that deviated after WW1 and the depression, was it a mix and so on. How did it become the new age, globalist vehicle of this day? I did learn that at the same time of DL Moody in the YMCA, Walt WItman who clearly has new age ideals was actively involved as well.

Anonymous said...

TYNST interesting on Harry ward and will need to ceck that article out. What I am really trying to examine is the early history of YMCA, did they always have twisted view that deviated after WW1 and the depression, was it a mix and so on. How did it become the new age, globalist vehicle of this day? I did learn that at the same time of DL Moody in the YMCA, Walt WItman who clearly has new age ideals was actively involved as well.

Anonymous said...

No, this isn't important info about the YMCA, but it might be important to those researching the Gulf disaster.

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july122010/gulf-nighmare-ta.php

Anonymous said...

Interesting article about Methane gas in the Arctic Ocean. If the ice caps weren't melting than why is it that ships are now able to use the Northwest Passage? There certainly seems to be some truth to climate change, whether we wish to acknowledge it or not.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/exclusive-the-methane-time-bomb-938932.html

Susanna said...

Anonymous 12:15 PM,JD and YG

Q. Guess who manufactured the South Korean ship Cheonan that was torpedoed by the North Koreans?

A. Hyundai

Q. Guess who once acted as the "mule" to deliver bribe money from the corrupt South Korean government to the even more corrupt North Korean government in the 2003 "Cash-for-summit scandal?"

A. Hyundai

Q. Guess who manufactured the Deepwater Horizon oil rig?

A. Hyundai

Q. Guess who has its own petroleum and oil refinery company headquartered in Seoul, South Korea and is looking to form a consortium for oil and gas in cooperation with China and North Korea? And possibly Russia?

A. Hyundai

Q. Guess who is included in the Korean consortium that recently won a UAE contract to build $20bn nuclear power plants?

A. Hyundai

http://www.businessdailyafrica.
com/-/539546/833374/
-/view/printVersion/-/k8ncsuz/
-/index.html


Q. Guess who bought arable land in Russia to grow corn and soybeans reportedly for export to South Korea?

A. Hyundai

http://joongangdaily.joins.
com/article/view.asp?aid=
2903571

Q. Guess who is scheduled to open a huge car manufacturing plant in St. Petersburg, Russia in September, 2010?

A. Hyundai

Q. Guess who might be vulnerable to blackmail by Russia ( i.e. threat of nationalizing their company) for refusing to do Russia's bidding? Especially in the wake of the BP fiasco in Russia?

A. Hyundai

At the end of the day, Hyundai may wind up having a lot of 'splainin' to do, wouldn't you say?

Anonymous said...

Shell Oil ex-CEO: Industry experts "feel the casing must have been damaged;" losing the casing "like having a volcano on the bottom of the sea."

"If you lose the casing, it's game over, you can't stop it."

http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/

(July 14, 2010)

John Rupp, Jr. said...

Uh Oh, I own a Hyundai! :-( By the way I just recieved a new coin dollar back in change and noticed "In God We Trust" is left off!? It is a real dollar coin. Has anyone else recieved one of these and why would they leave that out? It is a gold colored coin with one of the US Presidents on it. Mine has Martin Van Buren.
John

Anonymous said...

Government’s Expert Witness: Over 42 million gallons of dispersant used during BP oil disaster

http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/

(July 14, 2010)

Anonymous said...

No Tdap shot, no school for Alabama 6th graders...


http://www2.nbc13
.com/vtm/news/local/article/no_shot
_-
_no_school_for_alabama_sixth_grader
s/166411/#comments

Anonymous said...

John Rupp,

The mottos are inscribed on the edge.

Anonymous said...

Susanna,

You've certainly got that right.

I for one appreciate your research immensely.

YG

Anonymous said...

Cap-and-Trade Will Be Part of Senate Climate Change Bill

http://www.politicsdaily.com/
2010/07/13/cap-and-trade-will-be-
part-of-senate-climate-change-
bill/?sms_ss=email

Anonymous said...

Has anyone noticed how weird the word verification characters can be at times?

In my last post to Susanna the characters were 'unstabl'. I typed them in and the comment was rejected. The next word verification were the characters 'oxydroyd'.

That successfully sent my comment into cyber space for all to read.

The conclusion is that I am an unstable individual, most probably either a droid or simply hooked on Oxycotin.

IS this somehow related to how the NWO will label us for extermination?

YG

PS: This word verification for this comment is metatank. I like this one better;0)

Anonymous said...

Mobile phones 'causing memory loss'

http://www.webuser.co.uk/news/top-
stories/490967/mobile-phones-
causing-memory-loss

John Rupp, Jr. said...

Anonymous 7:07pm
Thank you for telling me where the motto is. I looked with my magnifine glass and sure enough it was inscribed on the edge.
John

Anonymous said...

NGOs Slam EU-Brazil Plans To Develop Biofuels In Africa

http://euobserver.com/9/30474

JD said...

Jacklyn,

I have had similar thoughts to Rich lately. A relaunch could realistically take place as a result of a upending war. This seems to be looming very close on the horizon as troops are being massed along Iran's northern border and warships are now at the ready in the Persian Gulf. A outbreak of violence may be the ticket to getting both sides on the same page, especially if Iran and some of the neighbors are no longer in the picture. The impact of a agreement may be larger too, if it happens to come on the heels of a war. Just my thoughts, and I am no way dogmatic about them.

Constance Cumbey said...

Dear Jacklyn,

Quite honestly, I don't know if July 20th is a "cut off date" or not. That theory was not mine. I have always said that "time and events will tell." We were admonished against specific date setting, as I read Matthew 24.

Constance

Dawn said...
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Anonymous said...

Mark 13:32 (KJV) — But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Anonymous said...

This particular passage has always puzzled me: is that a manner of speech or can a person in the Trinity not know what the other(s) know(s)? Bible scholars?

Anonymous said...

Thanks JD etc

Anon 6:28

Anonymous said...

On the ENP:

It is either the ENP or it is not. There is no re-launch. A new treaty will be just that, if it happens that way.

No need to keep trying to make it fit to earlier predictions made by some. If the ac is revealed and sacrifice stopped in the next 5 days, then it is the ENP. If not, a 7 year treay is just that, it does not start, stop, start and relaunch.

Susanna said...

John Rupp Jr. 7:48 PM,

Just in case there are any people you know who are in possession of a coin(s) that does not bear the inscriptions, according to Snopes:

...Small quantities of the George Washington and John Adams presidential dollars were discovered to be missing their edge inscriptions shortly after the initial release of those coins, but those examples were the result of minting errors and were not reflective of the new dollars' standard appearance. The stamping of the faces and the adding of the edge inscriptions are separate steps in the minting process and involve the use of different machinery.....

http://www.snopes.com/politics/
religion/dollarcoin.asp

Anonymous said...

8:29-

I heard one theory that as Jesus was on Earth, he knew as a man, and so at that time he did not know the date. I also heard (and this next theory doesn't make much sense imho) that Jesus made or willed himself not to know, so that only the Father knows.

Susanna said...

Anonymous 8:29 AM

There are a couple of explanations of what the Scriptures tell us that Jesus "did not know."

The way I learned it, Jesus made use of legitimate "mental reservations."

We may never tell a lie. But we are also obliged to keep secrets. How to resolve the dilemma? An approved way is by what is called mental reservation.

A legitimate mental reservation is to reserve in one’s mind the real meaning of what is said, but allow the listener a reasonable clue that such reservation is being made. If a prudent person can gather the intended meaning from the circumstances, then it is a broad mental reservation. Broad mental reservations are not only permissible but may be obligatory.

Regarding the Feast to which Jesus was referring in John 7:8-10 ,the meaning Jesus kept back was that He was not going up to the feast publicly because the time was not yet right.

The clue that would have enabled a prudent person to gather the meaning from the circumstances is that the Feast being referred to was the "Feast of Booths" or the "Feast of Tabernacles" - a Feast on which all males were required to make pilgrimages to the Temple at Jerusalem.

Since Jesus would not have outright refused or neglected to fulfil such an important religious obligation, a prudent person might have been able to figure out the real meaning being reserved by Jesus. Another thing to note is that the Feast of Tabernacles is a Joyful feast.....another reason why the time would not have been right in terms of Jesus' salvific mission.

Another example of Jesus' use of mental reservation was when in reference to the last days He told the Apostles in Matthew 24:36 that "not even the Son" knew about that day or hour.

In terms of the legitimate use of mental reservation, Jesus knew, but not with a knowledge that He could communicate in terms of the ultimate objectives of His mission for which He was sent by the Father.

The clue for the Apostles and other prudent persons would be that if Jesus was "the Christ the Son of the living God" and if "He and the Father were one," He would certainly know everything the Father while under an obligation not to reveal all that He knew.

One more point as to why we have not been told the name of the antichrist.

cont....

Susanna said...

cont...

We must recall that God has endowed man with the gift of free will - including antichrist - who will be merely a human being, albeit the worst human evildoer who has ever walked the face of the earth.

The degree of any sin is always proportionate to the degree of freedom with which a person has sinned. Antichrist - a.k.a."the man of sin - is so-called because he will freely and wholeheartedly embrace evil and will therefore be worthy of being cast into the lake of fire along with the False Prophet the devil whose mouthpiece he has chosen to become.

But until that time, God in His infinite justice will never do anything so demonstrable as to in any way impede antichrist's free will. And that includes definitively naming antichrist before he actually arrives.

The Church Fathers -notably St. Irenaeus have pointed that:

4. But he indicates the number of the name now, that when this man comes we may avoid him, being aware who he is: the name, however, is suppressed, because it is not worthy of being proclaimed by the Holy Spirit. For if it had been declared by Him, he (Antichrist) might perhaps continue for a long period. But now as he was, and is not, and shall ascend out of the abyss, and goes into perdition, Revelation 17:8 as one who has no existence; so neither has his name been declared, for the name of that which does not exist is not proclaimed. But when this Antichrist shall have devastated all things in this world, he will reign for three years and six months, and sit in the temple at Jerusalem; and then the Lord will come from heaven in the clouds, in the glory of the Father, sending this man and those who follow him into the lake of fire; but bringing in for the righteous the times of the kingdom, that is, the rest, the hallowed seventh day; and restoring to Abraham the promised inheritance, in which kingdom the Lord declared, that many coming from the east and from the west should sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Matthew 8:11...

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers
/0103530.htm

It is to be noted that St. Irenaeus was a bishop of Lyon and a martyr. He was a disciple of St. Polycarp of Smyrna (probable reference to Polycarp's martyrdom, in Revelations). St. Polycarp, in turn, was a disciple of St. John the Evangelist, generally regarded as inspired author of the Fourth Gospel and the Book of Revelations.

Because of his historical closeness to the time of the Apostles and to Jesus, Irenaeus would have had profound insights into the meaning of Biblical prophecies.

I hope you have found this helpful.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Susanna for responding so kindly. I have indeed found it helpful.There's a great deal of material in your answer and I'll have to go over it many times to get everything. If I may ask, concerning 666 and the Man of perdition, is there a definitive concensus from saints or Doctors of the Church as to its meaning? I know in Hebrew letters were assigned numbers ,or is that too simplistic to think Antichrist's actual name will somehow add up to 666? In short, what should we make of 666?

John Rupp, Jr. said...

Hi everyone, Susanna thank you for the paragraph on the coins inscription. That answered that question for me. Here is a recent update on Positive ID's implantable microchips from Florida Trend Magazine.
http://www.floridatrend.com/article.asp?aID=53177.
Or you can go straight to Positve ID's website and click on it in their headlines.
John

Susanna said...

Anonymous 11:35 AM

The consensus is that the number 666 is one of many clues that point to the antichrist.

At the time of the writing of the Apocalypse, (a.k.a. Book of Revelations), the two chief dangers to the church were emperor worship and gnosticism.

In Hebrew gematria, every letter has a corresponding number. The Apostles would have likely made use of this symbolic language because they were under heavy persecution.

One of the most evil emperors to whom "666" referred was Nero. In fact there was even a "Nero redivivus" myth circulating after his death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero_
Redivivus_legend

While Nero was not THE antichrist, he was nevertheless a type of antichrist. "666" can also be legitimately said to refer to any world leader who resembles Nero.

This would include the Hitlers, the Stalins and the Maos whose regimes are founded on murder and lies.....always a sign of the demonic. And we must not forget that modern statism embodied in the totalitarian regimes of our time are a modern form of emperor worship and their ideological underpinnings are always a form of gnosticism.

Constance Cumbey said...

Interestingly enough, the New Age "seer" Edgar Cayce also claimed to have had long standing Dwight Moody connections and personal acquaintance.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Regarding the "no man knows the day or the hour, not the Son, but the Father only" I have always been taught that was an ancient Hebrew idiom for the Feast of Trumpets. Once two witnesses were able to call out the sighting of the new moon, a new month could be declared. Until then, no one knew the day or the hour that the new month started, only the Father in heaven...

Anonymous said...

Anon 12:31,

Interesting. Who taught you that interpretation and what were their sources?

Anonymous said...

YG,

THE OMEGA PLAN

If the reports (still unverified) turn out to be true that 2400 Canadian troops and the 1 Combat Engineer Regiment are on standby for deployment to the gulf, here’s one possible explanation…they may be needed to accompany a nuclear device being assembled at CFB-Suffield.

BP readying a 'super weapon' to avert escalating Gulf nightmare

http://www.helium.com/items/1889648-bp-preparing-super-weapon-to-avert-escalating-gulf-nightmare

http://tinyurl.com/29kq2cr


omots

P.S. - My word verification was "cychos".

Anonymous said...

Constance looking into a bit of that now. It appears met DL early on and dl directed him to teach sunday school. It points more to the lack of discernment of DL moody at least from what I could tell. DL Moody on examination appears to have been the type to have so much zeal for "conversion" that used unhealthy and undiscerning means of persuasion and prescursor to some of the dynamics of "revials" such that of billy graham. Interestingly that "church" edgar casey was in as a child was disciples of Christ which were one of founding members of what has become worldwide council of churches. What I have learned of DL moody, is a zeal for "evangalism" and a lack of sound discipleship as weaknessess. But the threads and structure of what diverged in time was clearly there.

Anonymous said...

annoy 12:53

If you take time to study the festival of Rosh Hashanah it is pretty clear the connection. Sadly we have been disconnected from much of that.

Anonymous said...

OMOTS,

cychos-LOL!

Thanks for that link!

You said:
If the reports (still unverified) turn out to be true that 2400 Canadian troops and the 1 Combat Engineer Regiment are on standby for deployment to the gulf, here’s one possible explanation…they may be needed to accompany a nuclear device being assembled at CFB-Suffield."

That's exactly what I was thinking, based upon the CFB-Suffield location in Edmonton, and the fact that the combat regiment would likely be needed to accompany and possibly detonate this device.

For those not familiar with this device, here's a little more info:

"While the world watches BP's attempt to contain the oil gusher at the former Deepwater Horizon site, company officials have given the green light on an astounding plan to use what is known as a nuclear EPFCG charge if all else fails."

I had read about the explosively pumped flux compression generator yesterday. If we are truly dealing with a runaway well whose casings have blown out, then this could be the only possible thing left to try. From Wiki:

"Explosively pumped flux compression generators are popular as power sources for electronic warfare devices known as transient electromagnetic devices that generate an electromagnetic pulse without the costs and side effects of a nuclear weapon. They also can be used to accelerate objects to extreme velocities, and compress objects to very high pressures and densities; this gives them a role as a physics research tool."

YG

Anonymous said...

OMOTS,

Take a look at this CNN video of so-called live feed of the well. Watch the clip at 29 and 37 seconds. It looks like someone opened the door and walked right into the Gulf of Mexico!

How dumb do they think we are anyway?

These live feeds are bogus, IMHO.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2010/06/08/vo.new.oil.spill.high.resolution.bp.html

or http://tinyurl.com/2cdw2cb

YG

Anonymous said...

Susanna,

Every time someone throws me the Hitler was Catholic line or that Catholicism contributed to the Holocaust. I ask them to read the "Myth of the 20 th Century". A Nazi book that attacks both Judaism and Catholicism and their influence on Western civilization.

I also introduce them to Marcion who coined the term "God Killers" based on his two God theory , that's making a comeback in Liberal Christian circles.

Gnosticism is the mother of all heresies.

Savvy

Anonymous said...

YG

It's possible the feed is not coming directly from the camera in the sub, but from a camera pointed at a monitor in a studio room. That would account for the door.

Constance Cumbey said...

HALLELUJAH! The newest BP cap in the Gulf of Mexico appears to be working. No oil is currently leaking.

Susanna said...

Anonymous 12:31 and 12:53

It is my understanding that the Feast of Trumpets is another name for Rosh Hashanah.

The Talmud states that the resurrection of the dead will occur on Rosh Hashanah - a.k.a. the Jewish New Year.

Ergo, the symbolism embodied in no one knowing the day or the hour that the new month started appears to be echoed by Jesus in the Gospels and as I see it, there does not appear to be a contradiction.

Rosh Hashana

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosh_
Hashanah
_____________________________

Christian observance of Jewish Holidays

Feast of Trumpets

The Feast of Trumpets models itself on the Jewish holiday of Rosh Hashanah (the Jewish New Year). Not normally celebrated in mainstream Christianity, a small number of evangelical Christians celebrate the Feast of Trumpets. Some connect the observance with the "sound of the trumpet" that they believe will occur at the return of Jesus Christ ("For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God," 1 Thessalonians 4:16).

Chuck Missler notes the possibility that in 1 Corinthians 15:52 ("in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet"), Paul is "alluding to the climactic trumpet of the Feast of Trumpets"....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Christian_observances_of_Jewish_
holidays#Feast_of_Trumpets
_______________________________

The following are educational Jewish sites:

ROSH HASHANAH

http://www.jewfaq.org/holiday2.htm
__________________________

http://www.torah.org/learning/
yomtov/roshhashanah/
___________________________

http://www.torah.org/learning/
yomtov/roshhashanah/survival2.html
_____________________________

On Rosh HaShana the Book of Life is opened in the Heavens above. The deeds of each and every individual are examined and decisions are made, “Who shall live...who shall die. Who shall be elevated, who shall fall. Who shall be enriched, who shall be impoverished,” etc.

But man can insure that blessing be granted him through the fulfillment of three fundamental principles: Repentance, Prayer, and Charity.

Every Jew is obligated to listen to the blowing of the shofar. It is not permitted to have any conversation from the beginning of the shofar blasts to the end. Our Rabbis list ten reasons for the blowing of the shofar:
1. Rosh HaShana marks the anniversary of the world’s creation.
2. Rosh HaShana initiates the ten days of repentance.
3. The blowing of the shofar reminds us of the giving of the Torah at Sinai.
4. The shofar calls us to repentance.
5. The shofar reminds us to pray for the rebuilding of the Holy Temple.
6. The shofar reminds us of the binding of Isaac.
7. The shofar awakens our Jewish soul.
8. The shofar reminds us of the awesome Day of Judgment.
9. The shofar reminds us of the ingathering of the exiles.
10. The shofar reminds us of the resurrection of the dead....


http://www.hineni.org/torah_view.
asp?id=313

Anonymous said...

Constance,

Don't shout too loud yet. All along it has been feared that the damage was BELOW the sea bed. If so, this won't show up right away. In addition, since we are basically slaves to the info that BP is spitting out, we won't know whether or not the pressure readings are good or bad.

In addition, I have read the following articles about an asphalt volcano, and they make a lot of sense to me and seemingly have support to back them up. (asphalt volcanoes have been discovered in the Gulf as of 2004, as well as off Santa Barbara Islands in the west coast).The articles also agree with your theory of ecotage in order to garner support for a carbon tax/ cap and trade policy, and the ultimate goal- the Tierra as the world currency. I hope you'll take the time to read this and comment on the author's claims, and then let us know if this is all an illusion or not.

The most telling thing is this.... the author claims that when enough is enough, the well will simply be shut down by equalizing pressure. Isn't this exactly what they appear to be doing right now?

PAy special attention to this part of the author's claims:

'What's the benefit of this scam? MONEY, and population control. Read this article http://theintelhub.com/2010/06/18/gulf-spill-disaster-or-a-well-org.... If you're still reading this article, and even beginning to grasp the sinister nature of the fraud being perpetrated, then you'll realize that the Corexit 9500, and other dispersant's are not needed. They are purposely being sprayed by Evergreen Air/CIA to cull the population along the Gulf Coast.

Also, explained to me, is the large amount of useless eaters, pond scum, or undesirables living along the gulf coast. These would be the Americans living off of the government. I will not beat around the bush with pleasantries, or politically correct statements here. This coastal area from Texas to Florida has the highest, or most dense population of targets of elimination by the US Govt., and corporations. These are the populations living on welfare(in this area dominated by African Americans), and the older population living on Social Security(mainly Florida). These people are going to start dropping like flies over the next few years, and greatly reduce the burden to government coffers.

In this respect, this is a doomsday event, but it's not the end of the food chain, death of the oceans, or as some have warned an extinction level event. It's only bad for the targeted populations.'

http://www.thegic.org/profiles/blogs/asphalt-volcano-amp-bp

and

Read more: http://www.thegic.org/profiles/blogs/asphalt-volcano-amp-bp#ixzz0tnQKad18

YG

PS: word verification is undfight

Anonymous said...

Why Americans aren't prepared for the next mega-disaster

http://www.smartplanet.com/people/b
log/pure-genius/a-disaster-is-
coming-youre-not-prepared/4178/

Unknown said...

At the Born to watch site there is a link to a terrifying watch company called 666 Barcelona. You've got to see this!

http://www.666barcelona.com/philosophy.php

Anonymous said...

Geologist Chris Landau says sealing the well at top is useless experiment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJ8Z4oeecw

Dawn said...

on 666 Barcelona

Maybe it's just me. But I can't really ever imagining wanting a watch that said "666"

Susanna said...

SPAIN CALLS ON ECB FOR RECORD FUNDING

Spanish banks called on a record amount of funding from the European Central Bank (ECB) in June amid mounting volatility on financial markets.

By Angela Monaghan, Economics Reporter
Published: 11:30AM BST 15 Jul 2010

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance
/financetopics/financialcrisis
/7890981/Spain-calls-on-ECB-for
-record-funding.html
____________________________

About two weeks earlier.......

Spain may need financial rescue, says Merrill

Spain's debt crisis may force the country to tap the EU-IMF rescue fund over the next two to three months and set off a political storm, according a confidential report by the Bank of America Merrill Lynch.


July 2, 2010

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance
/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard
/7866922/Spain-may-need-financial
-rescue-says-Merrill.html

Susanna said...

As Lenin once said: "The goal of socialism is communism."

Chavez "communes" stoke Venezuela democracy debate

(Reuters) - Tucked into forested hills in southwest Caracas, a red-brick housing complex for the poor is a testing ground for Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's latest step to build socialism in the Latin American oil producer.


The phalanx of simple five-storey apartment blocks, some still being built, anchors the "Cacique Tiuna Commune". This is one of a network of "socialist communes" that Chavez and his supporters want to extend across the nation in a political and legislative offensive to dismantle "bourgeois" capitalism.

Not surprisingly in a country whose politics is as flammable as gasoline, the project enshrined in a package of "power to the people" laws is stoking a political firestorm.

Fueling the political debate is the proximity of legislative elections on September 26.

The government says the communes will help end poverty. But furious opponents, who already denounce Chavez as a repressive autocrat, say the initiative heralds outright communism in Venezuela and so violates its pluralist constitution.

"A barrier is being crossed ... we're passing from Chavez's tropical socialism to open and glaring communism," says Emilio Grateron, mayor of Chacao, an opposition stronghold entrenched in a more wealthy eastern neighborhood of Caracas.
..read more...

http://www.reuters.com/article/
idUSTRE66E7E420100715
?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews
&rpc=22&sp=true

Unknown said...

Dawn,

The site might be selling watches, but it's their "statements of philosophy" that are similar to what Benjamin Creme has said about Maitreya. That's what is most concerning. Also, it implies that it's time for the antichrist.

Anonymous said...

Matt Simmons says BP covering up massive hole miles away and that capping well and saying it's fixed is absurd.

http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/msnbc-july-15-matt-simmons-says-bp-covering-up-massive-hole-miles-away-cap-test-is-absurd

This goes along with some of the rumors online that claim that at the time of the accident, the Deepwater Horizon rig was being used to drill a relief well for a run away well about 7 miles away.

Some may recall that in the early days of the explosion there was mention of a SECOND well that was on fire.

Unknown said...

Washington, D.C., rattled by area's largest recorded earthquake

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38274327/ns/us_news-life/

Anonymous said...

Thanks again JD,

From Gorby to Traitor Desmond Tutu to Nasty Nazi B Marx-Hubbard on the Budapest list. Then there's this ILLUMINATI RUSSELL FAMILY member...


http://clubofbudapest.org/p-amb-russell.php

Peter Russell is a fellow of the Institute of Noetic Sciences, of The World Business Academy and of The Findhorn Foundation. As a student, he studied mathematics and theoretical physics. Then, as he became increasingly fascinated by the mysteries of the human mind he changed to experimental psychology. Pursuing this interest, he traveled to India to study meditation and eastern philosophy, and on his return to the UK and took up the first research post ever offered in Britain on the psychology of meditation.

He also has a post-graduate degree in computer science, and conducted there some of the early work on 3-dimensional displays, presaging by some twenty years the advent of virtual reality. In the mid-seventies Peter Russell joined forces with Tony Buzan and helped teach "Mind Maps" and learning methods to a variety of international organizations and educational institutions. Since then his corporate programs have focused increasingly on self-development, creativity, stress management, and sustainable environmental practices. His principal interest is the deeper, spiritual significance of the times we are passing through. As one of the more revolutionary futurists Peter Russell has been a keynote speaker at many international conferences, in Europe, Japan and the USA. His multi-image shows and videos, The Global Brain and The White Hole in Time have won praise and prizes from around the world. In 1993 the environmental magazine Buzzworm voted Peter Russell "Eco-Philosopher Extraordinaire" of the year.

His books: The TM Technique, The Upanishads, The Brain Book, The Global Brain Awakens, The Creative Manager, The Consciousness Revolution, Waking Up in Time, and From Science to God.


VERY NASTY!

Anonymous said...

NALCO maker of corexit: attached is the AMERICAN RECOVERY ACT, look and see how much of our money went to NALCO.

http://www.recovery.gov/espsearch/Pages/default.aspx?k=nalco

JD said...

Anon 10:14,

Glad I was able to help. The CoB and CoR are nasty little groups indeed.

JD said...

Anon 9:32,

I was referring to the Barcelona Process, which the ENP came out of. You do realize that this has been relaunched multiple times with several agreements coming out of it as a result don't you? The Union for the Med and the ENP are two examples that came from the initial agreement. The ENP is simply a arm of the Barcelona Process as far as Israel is concerned, it's what gave the agreement teeth.

The phrasing in Daniel is confirm and strengthen, as in to build onto something preexisting. I am not saying the ENP is said agreement, it alone doesn't fit. But if a agreement were reached tomorrow it would fall under the Barcelona Process, as all other plans that have been rejected have since the beginning of it.

Also, the Alliance of Civilizations plans are simply the same agreements adapted onto a global scale.

Anonymous said...

JD, also the Club of Vienna

http://www.clubofvienna.org/website/output.php?id=1983

The Club of Vienna (CoV), presently comprising 20 ordinary and 4 extraordinary members, forms a union of recognised scientists and experts joining together to present syntheses of wide-ranging expertise on a broad variety of topics. The Presidency is held by Hermann Knoflacher, Peter Kotauczek, Günter Emberger, Gerhard Medicus

English version only contains limited docs to 2003. German is full version and runs to now, 2010.

Anon 6:24

Anonymous said...

JD, also

http://www.clubofamsterdam.com/

These are obviously not on the scale of B & R though.

Anon 6:24

Anonymous said...

http://www.friendsofeurope.org/

http://www.new-club-of-paris.org/

Anon 6:24

Constance Cumbey said...

JD informed me my blogspot was completely down. I checked and indeed it was. I learned through a google verification code message that there had been "suspicious activity" on my account. Checking my email once my password was changed, I indeed found a suspicious letter sent from my account with no subject line. It was sent to various old clients, and others. My mailing list had evidently been hijacked as well. If you get that message with no subject line, DO NOT OPEN IT.

I am thankful that Google took the prompt action they did. I am doubly thankful to JD for notifying me. I am having a busy day and probably would not have otherwise noticed until far more damage had occurred.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Yes, I am well aware of Peter Russell and thanks for making others aware. He's the one I tracked in the early 1980's who wrote of religious fundamentalists that we were "cancerous cells on the global brain" that needed to be eradicated. Barbara Marx Hubbard's writings were extremely similar. Peter Russell is well aware of my work and warnings against the New Age Movement.

Constance

Anonymous said...

More earthquake activity:

Within the past hour there was an earthquake in Missouri, on the banks of the Mississippi on the New Madrid fault.

Could this be related to seismic activity in the Gulf of Mexico related to the gushers?


Answer from a seismologist: Pumping oil out can cause earthquakes by changing the stresses underground or because water pumped down to flush the oil out can have a lubricating effect.

See whole article:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/expert/realexpert/earthquakes/01.htm

Anonymous said...

http://tinyurl.com/2bw4335

A Proposal for a Carbon-Based International Reserve Currency As a Major Component Of The UN Funding System For Development And Climate Mitigation And Adaptation
International Institute of Monetary Transformation
Frans C. Verhagen, M.Div., M.I.A., Ph.D., President
www.timun.net; gaia1@rcn.com

17 June 2009
On 11 June 2009 US Sec Geithner advised his colleagues of the G8 finance ministers assembled at Lecce, Italy, that “finance ministries in both developed and developing countries should play a lead role in designing a new financial framework for the Copenhagen agreement on climate change that will mobilize private and public funds required to meet the post-2012 financing needs for adaptation, mitigation, and land use activities in developing countries”. It is proposed here that the carbon-based international reserve currency of the Tierra become part of that new financial framework.

What are the important questions for the emergence of a new international reserve currency such as the Tierra? During his interview in Lecce Egyptian finance minister Youssef Boutros-Ghali who is the chairman of the IMF’s International Monetary and Financial Committee, supporting a proposal from China for a new global currency to replace the dollar as the world’s main reserve currency, stressed that this was a long-term project with many potential hurdles. “The idea is appealing, but it’s a big undertaking, it will take a long time. To have a substitute reserve currency you need to create it, you need to have an issuer for it, and a market for it.” He said the IMF’s internal unit of exchange — SDRs — was an accounting currency and would not be a suitable unit for the project, as China and Russia have suggested.

WHAT IS THE TIERRA?
It is a new international, carbon-based reserve currency that is part of a nation’s carbon account in its balance of payments. It would start out a reserve currency, not a vehicle currency. If working well as a reserve currency nations or regions may choose to use it as a vehicle currency. The US dollar is presently both a reserve and a vehicle currency. In phase 1 the Tierra would replace the dollar, euro and yen as a reserve currency; in phase 2 it would replace those vehicle currencies and be part of world monetary union under the auspices of the UN.

WHY TO CREATE THE CARBON-BASED INTERNATIONAL RESERVE CURRENCY OF THE TIERRA?
A new international reserve currency has been recommended by the UNGA President’s Commission on Monetary and Financial Crises and strongly promoted by China and Russia and less so by India and Brazil. A national or regional currency cannot function as an international reserve currency because those currencies are, on balance, disadvantageous to both the issuing and using countries and particularly to the monetary, financial, economic systems. The Yekaterinburg conference of BRIC Countries and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization seems to become a turning point in a de-dollarization process.

It is to be carbon-based in order to have it function as a major institutional mechanism to combat climate change, particularly in balancing the nations’ carbon accounts by transferring Tierras from ecological debtor countries in the global North to ecological creditor countries in the global South.

The new reserve currency would be a major means for ecological debtor and financial creditor countries in the North to settle their ecological debts with their ecological creditor debtor countries in the South who are given the opportunity to settle their financial debts within the context of their ecological credits. There is no escaping the fact that the ecological and financial indebtedness of nations are part of one reality and have to be resolved in an integrated manner. See IIMT’s THE TIERRA SOLUTION: A Monetary Approach For Dealing With Ecological and Financial Indebtedness In The Global North and South, to be published by Cosimo Publishing in New York in early 2010.

Anonymous said...

http://tinyurl.com/2bw4335

A Proposal for a Carbon-Based International Reserve Currency As a Major Component Of The UN Funding System For Development And Climate Mitigation And Adaptation
International Institute of Monetary Transformation
Frans C. Verhagen, M.Div., M.I.A., Ph.D., President
www.timun.net; gaia1@rcn.com

17 June 2009
On 11 June 2009 US Sec Geithner advised his colleagues of the G8 finance ministers assembled at Lecce, Italy, that “finance ministries in both developed and developing countries should play a lead role in designing a new financial framework for the Copenhagen agreement on climate change that will mobilize private and public funds required to meet the post-2012 financing needs for adaptation, mitigation, and land use activities in developing countries”. It is proposed here that the carbon-based international reserve currency of the Tierra become part of that new financial framework.

What are the important questions for the emergence of a new international reserve currency such as the Tierra? During his interview in Lecce Egyptian finance minister Youssef Boutros-Ghali who is the chairman of the IMF’s International Monetary and Financial Committee, supporting a proposal from China for a new global currency to replace the dollar as the world’s main reserve currency, stressed that this was a long-term project with many potential hurdles. “The idea is appealing, but it’s a big undertaking, it will take a long time. To have a substitute reserve currency you need to create it, you need to have an issuer for it, and a market for it.” He said the IMF’s internal unit of exchange — SDRs — was an accounting currency and would not be a suitable unit for the project, as China and Russia have suggested.

WHAT IS THE TIERRA?
It is a new international, carbon-based reserve currency that is part of a nation’s carbon account in its balance of payments. It would start out a reserve currency, not a vehicle currency. If working well as a reserve currency nations or regions may choose to use it as a vehicle currency. The US dollar is presently both a reserve and a vehicle currency. In phase 1 the Tierra would replace the dollar, euro and yen as a reserve currency; in phase 2 it would replace those vehicle currencies and be part of world monetary union under the auspices of the UN.

WHY TO CREATE THE CARBON-BASED INTERNATIONAL RESERVE CURRENCY OF THE TIERRA?
A new international reserve currency has been recommended by the UNGA President’s Commission on Monetary and Financial Crises and strongly promoted by China and Russia and less so by India and Brazil. A national or regional currency cannot function as an international reserve currency because those currencies are, on balance, disadvantageous to both the issuing and using countries and particularly to the monetary, financial, economic systems. The Yekaterinburg conference of BRIC Countries and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization seems to become a turning point in a de-dollarization process.

It is to be carbon-based in order to have it function as a major institutional mechanism to combat climate change, particularly in balancing the nations’ carbon accounts by transferring Tierras from ecological debtor countries in the global North to ecological creditor countries in the global South.

The new reserve currency would be a major means for ecological debtor and financial creditor countries in the North to settle their ecological debts with their ecological creditor debtor countries in the South who are given the opportunity to settle their financial debts within the context of their ecological credits. There is no escaping the fact that the ecological and financial indebtedness of nations are part of one reality and have to be resolved in an integrated manner. See IIMT’s THE TIERRA SOLUTION: A Monetary Approach For Dealing With Ecological and Financial Indebtedness In The Global North and South, to be published by Cosimo Publishing in New York in early 2010.

Anonymous said...

http://tinyurl.com/2bw4335

A Proposal for a Carbon-Based International Reserve Currency As a Major Component Of The UN Funding System For Development And Climate Mitigation And Adaptation
International Institute of Monetary Transformation
Frans C. Verhagen, M.Div., M.I.A., Ph.D., President
www.timun.net; gaia1@rcn.com

17 June 2009
On 11 June 2009 US Sec Geithner advised his colleagues of the G8 finance ministers assembled at Lecce, Italy, that “finance ministries in both developed and developing countries should play a lead role in designing a new financial framework for the Copenhagen agreement on climate change that will mobilize private and public funds required to meet the post-2012 financing needs for adaptation, mitigation, and land use activities in developing countries”. It is proposed here that the carbon-based international reserve currency of the Tierra become part of that new financial framework.

What are the important questions for the emergence of a new international reserve currency such as the Tierra? During his interview in Lecce Egyptian finance minister Youssef Boutros-Ghali who is the chairman of the IMF’s International Monetary and Financial Committee, supporting a proposal from China for a new global currency to replace the dollar as the world’s main reserve currency, stressed that this was a long-term project with many potential hurdles. “The idea is appealing, but it’s a big undertaking, it will take a long time. To have a substitute reserve currency you need to create it, you need to have an issuer for it, and a market for it.” He said the IMF’s internal unit of exchange — SDRs — was an accounting currency and would not be a suitable unit for the project, as China and Russia have suggested.

WHAT IS THE TIERRA?
It is a new international, carbon-based reserve currency that is part of a nation’s carbon account in its balance of payments. It would start out a reserve currency, not a vehicle currency. If working well as a reserve currency nations or regions may choose to use it as a vehicle currency. The US dollar is presently both a reserve and a vehicle currency. In phase 1 the Tierra would replace the dollar, euro and yen as a reserve currency; in phase 2 it would replace those vehicle currencies and be part of world monetary union under the auspices of the UN.

WHY TO CREATE THE CARBON-BASED INTERNATIONAL RESERVE CURRENCY OF THE TIERRA?
A new international reserve currency has been recommended by the UNGA President’s Commission on Monetary and Financial Crises and strongly promoted by China and Russia and less so by India and Brazil. A national or regional currency cannot function as an international reserve currency because those currencies are, on balance, disadvantageous to both the issuing and using countries and particularly to the monetary, financial, economic systems. The Yekaterinburg conference of BRIC Countries and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization seems to become a turning point in a de-dollarization process.

It is to be carbon-based in order to have it function as a major institutional mechanism to combat climate change, particularly in balancing the nations’ carbon accounts by transferring Tierras from ecological debtor countries in the global North to ecological creditor countries in the global South.

The new reserve currency would be a major means for ecological debtor and financial creditor countries in the North to settle their ecological debts with their ecological creditor debtor countries in the South who are given the opportunity to settle their financial debts within the context of their ecological credits. There is no escaping the fact that the ecological and financial indebtedness of nations are part of one reality and have to be resolved in an integrated manner. See IIMT’s THE TIERRA SOLUTION: A Monetary Approach For Dealing With Ecological and Financial Indebtedness In The Global North and South, to be published by Cosimo Publishing in New York in early 2010.

Anonymous said...

http://tinyurl.com/2bw4335

A Proposal for a Carbon-Based International Reserve Currency As a Major Component Of The UN Funding System For Development And Climate Mitigation And Adaptation
International Institute of Monetary Transformation
Frans C. Verhagen, M.Div., M.I.A., Ph.D., President
www.timun.net; gaia1@rcn.com

17 June 2009
On 11 June 2009 US Sec Geithner advised his colleagues of the G8 finance ministers assembled at Lecce, Italy, that “finance ministries in both developed and developing countries should play a lead role in designing a new financial framework for the Copenhagen agreement on climate change that will mobilize private and public funds required to meet the post-2012 financing needs for adaptation, mitigation, and land use activities in developing countries”. It is proposed here that the carbon-based international reserve currency of the Tierra become part of that new financial framework.

What are the important questions for the emergence of a new international reserve currency such as the Tierra? During his interview in Lecce Egyptian finance minister Youssef Boutros-Ghali who is the chairman of the IMF’s International Monetary and Financial Committee, supporting a proposal from China for a new global currency to replace the dollar as the world’s main reserve currency, stressed that this was a long-term project with many potential hurdles. “The idea is appealing, but it’s a big undertaking, it will take a long time. To have a substitute reserve currency you need to create it, you need to have an issuer for it, and a market for it.” He said the IMF’s internal unit of exchange — SDRs — was an accounting currency and would not be a suitable unit for the project, as China and Russia have suggested.

WHAT IS THE TIERRA?
It is a new international, carbon-based reserve currency that is part of a nation’s carbon account in its balance of payments. It would start out a reserve currency, not a vehicle currency. If working well as a reserve currency nations or regions may choose to use it as a vehicle currency. The US dollar is presently both a reserve and a vehicle currency. In phase 1 the Tierra would replace the dollar, euro and yen as a reserve currency; in phase 2 it would replace those vehicle currencies and be part of world monetary union under the auspices of the UN.

WHY TO CREATE THE CARBON-BASED INTERNATIONAL RESERVE CURRENCY OF THE TIERRA?
A new international reserve currency has been recommended by the UNGA President’s Commission on Monetary and Financial Crises and strongly promoted by China and Russia and less so by India and Brazil. A national or regional currency cannot function as an international reserve currency because those currencies are, on balance, disadvantageous to both the issuing and using countries and particularly to the monetary, financial, economic systems. The Yekaterinburg conference of BRIC Countries and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization seems to become a turning point in a de-dollarization process.

It is to be carbon-based in order to have it function as a major institutional mechanism to combat climate change, particularly in balancing the nations’ carbon accounts by transferring Tierras from ecological debtor countries in the global North to ecological creditor countries in the global South.

The new reserve currency would be a major means for ecological debtor and financial creditor countries in the North to settle their ecological debts with their ecological creditor debtor countries in the South who are given the opportunity to settle their financial debts within the context of their ecological credits. There is no escaping the fact that the ecological and financial indebtedness of nations are part of one reality and have to be resolved in an integrated manner. See IIMT’s THE TIERRA SOLUTION: A Monetary Approach For Dealing With Ecological and Financial Indebtedness In The Global North and South, to be published by Cosimo Publishing in New York in early 2010.

Anonymous said...

http://tinyurl.com/2bw4335

A Proposal for a Carbon-Based International Reserve Currency As a Major Component Of The UN Funding System For Development And Climate Mitigation And Adaptation
International Institute of Monetary Transformation
Frans C. Verhagen, M.Div., M.I.A., Ph.D., President
www.timun.net; gaia1@rcn.com

17 June 2009
On 11 June 2009 US Sec Geithner advised his colleagues of the G8 finance ministers assembled at Lecce, Italy, that “finance ministries in both developed and developing countries should play a lead role in designing a new financial framework for the Copenhagen agreement on climate change that will mobilize private and public funds required to meet the post-2012 financing needs for adaptation, mitigation, and land use activities in developing countries”. It is proposed here that the carbon-based international reserve currency of the Tierra become part of that new financial framework.

What are the important questions for the emergence of a new international reserve currency such as the Tierra? During his interview in Lecce Egyptian finance minister Youssef Boutros-Ghali who is the chairman of the IMF’s International Monetary and Financial Committee, supporting a proposal from China for a new global currency to replace the dollar as the world’s main reserve currency, stressed that this was a long-term project with many potential hurdles. “The idea is appealing, but it’s a big undertaking, it will take a long time. To have a substitute reserve currency you need to create it, you need to have an issuer for it, and a market for it.” He said the IMF’s internal unit of exchange — SDRs — was an accounting currency and would not be a suitable unit for the project, as China and Russia have suggested.

WHAT IS THE TIERRA?
It is a new international, carbon-based reserve currency that is part of a nation’s carbon account in its balance of payments. It would start out a reserve currency, not a vehicle currency. If working well as a reserve currency nations or regions may choose to use it as a vehicle currency. The US dollar is presently both a reserve and a vehicle currency. In phase 1 the Tierra would replace the dollar, euro and yen as a reserve currency; in phase 2 it would replace those vehicle currencies and be part of world monetary union under the auspices of the UN.

WHY TO CREATE THE CARBON-BASED INTERNATIONAL RESERVE CURRENCY OF THE TIERRA?
A new international reserve currency has been recommended by the UNGA President’s Commission on Monetary and Financial Crises and strongly promoted by China and Russia and less so by India and Brazil. A national or regional currency cannot function as an international reserve currency because those currencies are, on balance, disadvantageous to both the issuing and using countries and particularly to the monetary, financial, economic systems. The Yekaterinburg conference of BRIC Countries and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization seems to become a turning point in a de-dollarization process.

It is to be carbon-based in order to have it function as a major institutional mechanism to combat climate change, particularly in balancing the nations’ carbon accounts by transferring Tierras from ecological debtor countries in the global North to ecological creditor countries in the global South.

The new reserve currency would be a major means for ecological debtor and financial creditor countries in the North to settle their ecological debts with their ecological creditor debtor countries in the South who are given the opportunity to settle their financial debts within the context of their ecological credits. There is no escaping the fact that the ecological and financial indebtedness of nations are part of one reality and have to be resolved in an integrated manner. See IIMT’s THE TIERRA SOLUTION: A Monetary Approach For Dealing With Ecological and Financial Indebtedness In The Global North and South, to be published by Cosimo Publishing in New York in early 2010.

Anonymous said...

http://tinyurl.com/2bw4335

A Proposal for a Carbon-Based International Reserve Currency As a Major Component Of The UN Funding System For Development And Climate Mitigation And Adaptation
International Institute of Monetary Transformation
Frans C. Verhagen, M.Div., M.I.A., Ph.D., President
www.timun.net; gaia1@rcn.com

17 June 2009
On 11 June 2009 US Sec Geithner advised his colleagues of the G8 finance ministers assembled at Lecce, Italy, that “finance ministries in both developed and developing countries should play a lead role in designing a new financial framework for the Copenhagen agreement on climate change that will mobilize private and public funds required to meet the post-2012 financing needs for adaptation, mitigation, and land use activities in developing countries”. It is proposed here that the carbon-based international reserve currency of the Tierra become part of that new financial framework.

What are the important questions for the emergence of a new international reserve currency such as the Tierra? During his interview in Lecce Egyptian finance minister Youssef Boutros-Ghali who is the chairman of the IMF’s International Monetary and Financial Committee, supporting a proposal from China for a new global currency to replace the dollar as the world’s main reserve currency, stressed that this was a long-term project with many potential hurdles. “The idea is appealing, but it’s a big undertaking, it will take a long time. To have a substitute reserve currency you need to create it, you need to have an issuer for it, and a market for it.” He said the IMF’s internal unit of exchange — SDRs — was an accounting currency and would not be a suitable unit for the project, as China and Russia have suggested.

WHAT IS THE TIERRA?
It is a new international, carbon-based reserve currency that is part of a nation’s carbon account in its balance of payments. It would start out a reserve currency, not a vehicle currency. If working well as a reserve currency nations or regions may choose to use it as a vehicle currency. The US dollar is presently both a reserve and a vehicle currency. In phase 1 the Tierra would replace the dollar, euro and yen as a reserve currency; in phase 2 it would replace those vehicle currencies and be part of world monetary union under the auspices of the UN.

WHY TO CREATE THE CARBON-BASED INTERNATIONAL RESERVE CURRENCY OF THE TIERRA?
A new international reserve currency has been recommended by the UNGA President’s Commission on Monetary and Financial Crises and strongly promoted by China and Russia and less so by India and Brazil. A national or regional currency cannot function as an international reserve currency because those currencies are, on balance, disadvantageous to both the issuing and using countries and particularly to the monetary, financial, economic systems. The Yekaterinburg conference of BRIC Countries and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization seems to become a turning point in a de-dollarization process.

It is to be carbon-based in order to have it function as a major institutional mechanism to combat climate change, particularly in balancing the nations’ carbon accounts by transferring Tierras from ecological debtor countries in the global North to ecological creditor countries in the global South.

The new reserve currency would be a major means for ecological debtor and financial creditor countries in the North to settle their ecological debts with their ecological creditor debtor countries in the South who are given the opportunity to settle their financial debts within the context of their ecological credits. There is no escaping the fact that the ecological and financial indebtedness of nations are part of one reality and have to be resolved in an integrated manner. See IIMT’s THE TIERRA SOLUTION: A Monetary Approach For Dealing With Ecological and Financial Indebtedness In The Global North and South, to be published by Cosimo Publishing in New York in early 2010.

Anonymous said...

whoops -sorry for duplicates folks.

JD said...

Anon,

With the exception of Friends of Europe, the others are down stream arms of CoB and CoR. FoE tends to fall more in line with Friends of Bilderberg, Brookings Institute, or Council of the Americas, amongst many others. All independent groups working toward similar goals, of course members tend to belong to multiple groups. Thanks for sharing the links, it's always worth looking at what some of the downstream groups are up to.

Anonymous said...

Constance / JD:

I was also unable to get into this blog earlier. I thought it was just me, but am very happy that the problem has been corrected / solved.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 2:32

If you look at this map, there have been 6 earthquakes in the eastern half of the US since the well was capped yesterday. Although I am not a seismologist, this seems unusual.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/

Anonymous said...

The New Abortion Providers

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/18
/magazine/18abortion-t.html?_r=2&hp

Anonymous said...

Thanks JD,

Anon 6:24

Anonymous said...

Army Suicides Hit Record Number in June

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upsho
t/20100716/us_yblog_upshot/record-
number-of-u-s-soldiers-commited-
suicide-last-month

Anonymous said...

"Yes, I am well aware of Peter Russell and thanks for making others aware. He's the one I tracked in the early 1980's who wrote of religious fundamentalists that we were "cancerous cells on the global brain" that needed to be eradicated. Barbara Marx Hubbard's writings were extremely similar. Peter Russell is well aware of my work and warnings against the New Age Movement.

Constance"

2:31 PM


Thanks Constance,

Anon 6:24

Anonymous said...

From a Catholic organization (see links) through Torah Jews for Decency


Dear Colleague,
We report on a document that has been produced almost in secret that
governments are going to be expected to endorse at the upcoming World Youth
Conference in Mexico next month. The document offers radical autonomy for youth
quite separate from their parents. The document does not even use that
ghastly word "parent." UN members states who are expected to endorse this
mess are rightly concerned.??

We also report on a new team of "superheroes" appointed by UN Secretary
General Ban Ki-moon, who are supposed to be public advocates for the new
review session on the Millennium Development Goals. They include a rogues
gallery of abortion advocates, and population controllers like Spanish Prime
Minister Jose Zapatero, Bill Gates and Ted Turner. The question becomes who
will protect us from these "superheroes"?

Spread the word.

Yours sincerely,

Austin Ruse
President

Calls for Radical Autonomy for
Youth Ahead of Mexico Conference
By Terrence McKeegan, J.D.

NEW YORK, July 15 (C-FAM) Two recently released documents prepared in
anticipation of an upcoming youth conference make unprecedented claims for new
"rights" for youth that experts say directly conflict with traditional
norms and international law. The draft declaration which will be considered
by governmental participants at the World Youth Conference, to be held at
the end of August in Leon, Mexico, calls for a "comprehensive development of
young people that includes: a humanist education to face ethical challenges
" and "sexuality education." _Read more_
(http://www.elabs3.com/c.html?rtr=on&s=ebss,1717s,4t6x,dehp,kq3v,i7lt,la4y)


UN Secretary General Announce
New "Superhero" Advocacy Team
for MDGs
By Samantha Singson

NEW YORK, July 15 (C-FAM) For months, the international community has
been preparing for the September review summit on the Millennium Development
Goals (MDGs). As part of the preparations, United Nations (UN)
Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon recently announced the formation of an MDG advocacy team
composed of prominent politicos and philanthropists who will "build
political will and mobilize action on the eight Goals." The list, which includes
noted population control supporters and abortion advocates, is causing
concern. _Read more_
(http://www.elabs3.com/c.html?rtr=on&s=ebss,1717s,4t6x,atze,i7kz,i7lt,la4y)

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

Eerie parallels between Easter Island ecocide and Gulf's Macondo well?

http://thedailybite.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/total-solar-eclipse-over-easter-island-july-11-2010/

Anonymous said...

Odd namesake has chilling parallels to reality...

'So the story of Marquez’ Macondo is not just about a fictional cursed town as the media has been reporting regarding the odd namesake chosen by BP for its hellhole well in the Gulf. This is a story about a novel forecasting the future reality of of corrupt governments in league with international business interests violently oppressing human rights of their own exploited citizens and then covering up the evil.'

http://thedailybite.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/the-shadow-of-bp-hiding-in-the-name-macondo/

YG

Unknown said...

There's a lot of good information that people have been posting. In the latest in Share Internation there's an interesting question and answer. At least I thought it was interesting:

Q. What can we do to get rid of capitalism?
A. We will not get rid of capitalism, we will give it a place in our society. It is not necessary to think in extremes, in black and white. No one ever thinks of these working together but Maitreya puts it this way: think of a cart; if you only have one wheel – whether capitalism or socialism – it will not go. All economic structures of the future will retain the balance of socialism and capitalism. Today there is no country in the world which has the balance right. The trick is to get the correct balance. From the Masters’ point of view, the best balance is 30 per cent capitalism and 70 per cent socialism.

http://tinyurl.com/283w7kq

Unknown said...

Of course, there is more to that Q&A stuff, but what is striking is how I think the U.S. economy is moving towards. This puts Obama's economic strategy in a larger context. His strategy is not to completely end capitalism, but to create a socialism blend of some sorts. It's capitalism Chinese-style. Perhaps it's part of the whole plan.

Gary said...

Hey Constance, and fellow watchers. I am a long time reader of your blog. Anyway, I have been working on a new prophecy blog that will mostly be focusing on frequent headline updates. I hope everyone can take a moment to check it out!

http://www.unsealed.org

JD said...

David,

Creme's statement falls right in line with the plan for the world order to be the perfect blend of eastern and western ideas. We see much of this already happening. They can call it capitalism all they want, but it is no longer such. The second losses became socialized this became the reality. This will be the emerging trend, as lending to groups becomes more popular than individuals (this has already begun). People will eat it up too, because the interest rates will appear to be lower and their will be a lot of pie in the sky promises.

I expect this end to get heavier as the debt to GDP ratio spirals out of whack over the next few months. Then there is the end run the UN wants to do around the dollar, replacing it with a Carbon based reserve. I could go on, but being on my email list you probably know already what I am talking about.

Anonymous said...

Here the Scottish Rite FM admit their diabolical New Age philosophy.

Scottish Rite (Part 1 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi5OjruA9KQ&feature=related

Scottish Rite (Part 1 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoGmJse1B_U&feature=related

Anonymous said...

Here the Scottish Rite FM admit their diabolical New Age philosophy.

Scottish Rite (Part 1 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi5OjruA9KQ&feature=related

Scottish Rite (Part 2 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoGmJse1B_U&feature=related

Anonymous said...

Lafayette Ronald Hubbard, founder of Scientology, on Aleister Crowley.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoQ9sMjoyBM&feature=related


Does anyone know if Lafayette Ronald Hubbard is Barbara Marx Hubbard? It would be an interesting thing.

T

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if Lafayette Ronald Hubbard is related to Barbara Marx Hubbard? It would be an interesting thing.

Anonymous said...

what a blooper! Still sleepy.

T

Susanna said...

Dorothy,

Thanks for posting those informative links.

There is an old saying among Catholics: "All heresy begins below the belt."

Most likely, the same can be said of the political perversions embodied in the agenda of the organizers of the youth conference in so far as they are in violation of the self-evident truth that the family is prior to the state.

When the state is erroneously defined as being prior to the family, you have a perfect example of "the tail wagging the dog."

Susanna said...

P.S.

Dorothy,

The so-called "radical autonomy" is also redolent of the errors of Rousseau.

Hegel also made the demand for "radical autonomy" of Rousseau a central part of his theory but seems to have recognized the self-contradiction involved.

He (Hegel)has indeed, an important place in the line of development of this aspiration to absolute freedom as it develops from Rousseau through Marx and beyond. For he wove the demand for radical autonomy of Rousseau and Kant together with the expressivist theory which came from Herder, and this provided the indispensable background for Marx's thought. And yet he was a strong critic of radical freedom. This alone would make it worthwhile to examone his objections......

http://tinyurl.com/38lzh4r
_______________________________

The reason why "radical autonomy" ( a,k,a, Rousseau's doctrine of the "state of nature") is "radically wrong" is because human beings are not born "radically autonomous." They are born into a state of complete dependence upon their parents until they are old enough to care for themselves.....and even then this "caring for themselves" is naturally done, first and foremost, in the context of a family.

Anonymous said...

The Rockefeller Foundation has paid a few experts to do some RE-imagining about the future, for "planning" purposes, of course.

Their attempt at divination would be almost laughable, if not for the fact that regardless of the dire global scenarios laid out, certain people are always planning to come out on top no matter what.

I'm sure the blue spiral design on the cover page of the RF's 54 pg. report is just a coincidence.

http://www.gbn.com/articles/pdfs/GBN&Rockefeller%20scenarios.technology&development.pdf

or

http://tinyurl.com/375ep66

Steve Watson has a pretty good synopsis of the report over on the Infowars site.

http://www.infowars.net/articles/july2010/160710Rockefeller.htm

My word verification was "draccolo"


omots

Susanna said...

omots,

The following gem is a comment I saw on a Free Republic thread having to do with BMI becoming part of our permanent electronic health record and being available for inspection “with appropriate security measures--on a national exchange.”

Here is the comment:

They say a people that doesn’t know history is doomed to repeat it.

I prefer to look at it from a spiritual warfare position.

Think of it this way - Satan's version of the movie "Groundhog Day".

Generation after generation, culture after culture, he keeps what works, throws out what didn't work, and tweeks what almost worked. That is why we can't really attach an "-ism" to what is going on today.

One of these days, he will bed down the girl.

Anonymous said...

Lots of awful new age material for research here (inc. Peter Russell book chapter in issue 8):

http://www.greylodge.org/occultreview/idxs/completeidx.html

anon 6:24

Susanna said...

I don't always agree with Cliff Kincaid, but I found the following article he wrote quite informative and quite chilling.

The Russian Agents, Obama, and the Cover-up

By Cliff Kincaid | July 16, 2010

Our media do not seem to be interested in the curious matter of why the Russian agents accused of trying to acquire sensitive nuclear information from the U.S. Government were so quickly released.

Why were they were sent back to Moscow less than two weeks after they were arrested?

It is certainly the case that a continuing spy scandal threatened to undermine U.S.-Russia business “opportunities” and “cooperation.”

It is also true that there is evidence that the Russian agents targeted the Obama Administration and former Clinton Administration officials.

Just before the scandal broke, a $4billion deal had been announced between Boeing and a Russian firm. During the visit of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to the U.S., Cisco Systems had announced it was going to spend $1 billion in Russia, in part to develop a Moscow version of Silicon Valley. The United States Export-Import Bank had also announced a new deal to underwrite, with U.S. taxpayer dollars, U.S. business exports to Russia.

Plus, Obama had submitted a U.S.-Russian nuclear cooperation agreement, backed by powerful business interests, to the U.S. Congress.

All of this was clearly in jeopardy if the Russian spy scandal led to additional revelations of Russian spying on the American government and businesses. So the scandal had to go away—and quickly...
read more...

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/the
-russian-agents-obama-and-the-cover-up/
_____________________________

In earlier comments, I have mentioned Russian defector Sergai Tretyakov who may have been involved in helping the FBI with the recent Russian spy roundup. Tretyakov was a very high-ranking member of the Russian Intelligence Service (SVR) which is a direct successor to the KGB.

SERGEI TRETYAKOV
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Sergei_Tretyakov_(intelligence_officer
________________________________

I didn't know that Tretyakov had died just a little over a month ago until today when I read Kinkaid's aforementioned article in which he also wrote:

Scratching the surface of the scandal, Walter Pincus of The Washington Post wonders if all of the Russian agents have been rounded up.

He writes, “The best public indication of the extent of Moscow’s efforts comes from the late Sergei Tretyakov, the former Russian intelligence officer who under the guise of a press officer at the U.N. Mission ran espionage operations in New York City from 1995 to 2000. He served the last three of those years as a double agent for the FBI until he defected to the United States. As Tretyakov told author Pete Earley in the book ‘Comrade J,’ at one time he had more than 60 SVR officers working inside the United Nations and more than 160 contacts made up of illegals, outright spies, and other people who knowingly or unknowingly could supply information useful to Russia.”

According to Earley, Tretyakov died “unexpectedly” on June 13. The circumstances were so suspicious that an autopsy was performed under the supervision of the FBI....
read entire article

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/the
-russian-agents-obama-and-the
-cover-up/
_______________________________

It certainly looks like Mr. Kincaid would agree that we need to watch Russia.

Susanna said...

THE BEAR WE COULD HAVE TAMED

By Joy Tiz | Published: April 11, 2010

The Clinton administration allowed It’s- Not- Easy- Being God Soros to run wild in the dying Soviet Union. The results were entirely predictable...read entire article...

http://joytiz.com/2010/the-bear-we
-could-have-tamed/

Anonymous said...

What is the Illuminati?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/illuminati.htm


I recently read an excellent book... PAWNS in the GAME, by William Guy Carr. I am going to share several quotes with you from the book that I think are superb. If you want to learn all the details of the Illuminati and their sinister evil plan to take over the world, then this is the book to read!
The International Conspiracy
The following quote is from page IX in the introduction:
Very few people seem to appreciate that Lucifer is the brightest and most intelligent of the heavenly host and, because he is a pure spirit, he is indestructible. The Scriptures tell us his power is such that he caused one-third of the most intelligent of the heavenly host to defect from God, and join him, because he claimed God's Plan for the rule of the universe is weak and impractical because it is based on the premise that lesser beings can be taught to know, love, and wish to serve Him voluntarily out of respect for His own infinite perfections. The Luciferian ideology states might is right. It claims beings of proven superior intelligence have the right to rule those less gifted because the masses don't know what is best for them. The Luciferian ideology is what we call totalitarianism to-day.
The Old Testament is simply the history of how Satan became prince of the world, and caused our first parents to defect from God. It relates how the synagogue of Satan was established on this earth, it tells how it has worked since to prevent God's Plan for the rule of the universe being established on this earth. Christ came to earth when the conspiracy reached the stage that, to use His own Words, Satan controlled all those in high places. He exposed the synagogue of Satan (Rev. 2:9;3:9); he denounced those who belonged to it as sons of the Devil (Lucifer), whom He castigated as the father of lies (John 8:44) and the prince of deceit (2nd Cor. 11:14). He was specific in His statement that those who comprised the synagogue of Satan were those who called themselves Jews, but were not, and did lie (Rev. 2:9; 3:9). He identified the Money-Changers (Bankers), the Scribes, and the Pharisees as the Illuminati of His day.
Page X brings the conspiracy up to date:
In 1774 "An Act of God" placed the Bavarian government in possession of evidence which proved the existence of the continuing Luciferian conspiracy. Adam Weishaupt, a Jesuit trained professor of canon law, defected from Christianity, and embraced the Luciferian ideology while teaching in Ingoldstadt University. In 1770 the money lenders (who had recently organized the House of Rothschild), retrained him to revise and modernize the age-old 'protocols' designed to give the synagogue of Satan ultimate world domination so they can impose Luciferian ideology upon what remains of the Human Race, after the final social cataclysm, by use of Satanic despotism. Weishaupt completed his task May 1st, 1776.
The plan required the destruction of ALL existing governments and religions. This objective was to be reached by dividing the masses, whom he termed Goyim (meaning human cattle) into opposing camps
END

Anonymous said...

The Illuminati Chronicles
Symbols of the Illuminati
Quotes about the New World Order
________________________________________
More on the Illuminati...
For those who have never heard of The Illuminati, or are brand new to the study, and who might ask, “In a nutshell, what the heck is the Illuminati?” Here's the basic assertion in a very brief capsule:
A man named Adam Weishaupt founded a secret society in Bavaria in 1776, that had as it’s goal, to rule the world. The methods they would use would be assassinations, bribery, blackmail, revolutions, and espionage. Their model of organization was similar to the Jesuit Order and the steps and degrees of Freemasonry. They intended to control and manipulate banks and bankers, money-lending powers, the world’s financiers. They intended to cause economic collapses, wars, bloody uprisings and revolutions around the world, with each upheaval calculated to re-structure the status quo leaving the Illuminati in greater positions of influence, and poised for their next step. The main enemies or “targets” of The Illuminati in the 1700s were the kings and queens, the monarchies of Europe, and, the Church. The two most-remembered Illuminati-caused revolutions in history, were, the French Revolution and Reign of Terror (1788-1799), and the Russian Revolution of 1917 that first made Communism a world power. The Illuminati and it’s diabolical conspiracy was very real. These things actually happened and are a matter of world history. The Illuminati Conspiracy got exposed. The authorities made raids and seized Illuminati documents. In its day this was all public headline news, not some obscure, rare, or arcane knowledge. There you have the basic gist of it. That is the starting point. That is what people usually mean by “The Illuminati.”

Anonymous said...

But is that all there is to it?
What has gone on since then?
And, what is going on today?
This is one of the best spots on the web for you to get the right slant on The Illuminati. It is easy to get off on the wrong foot with this topic, and to be steered wrong by misinformation. BAD misinformation. Tune in here and get it right.
There are many links lower on this page, to Illuminati-related things. They are intended to help you see the nature of the conspiratorial network.

Anonymous said...

JEWS AND ANTI-SEMITISM
People need to realize that the world’s JEWS are NOT the power behind the Conspiracy, as some claim. It is NOT a Jewish plot. There are in fact many extremely ANTI-Jewish, anti-Semitic elements to be found in the ranks of the Conspirators, and in their philosophies. The document called “The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,” is not reliable. I believe it was a hoax, a decoy, written, crafted, by the Illuminati, to steer investigators off the trail of the REAL Illuminati, and make them go after the Jews instead. At the time that document was published, the world already KNEW there was a real plot. Researchers and investigators had gotten some of the real perpetrators put in JAIL. The Illuminati was in danger. So they forged a document that “confessed” the real (already known) activities of the Illuminati, but to misguide investigators, they sprinkled wording throughout it such as “we the Jews." And they got the document to fall into the hands of the authorities and the public. Presto! The bloodhounds VEERED OFF and followed the wrong scent from then on. A great victory for the Illuminati. A real coup. Ingenious. Shrewd. A masterpiece of deception! And clear up to this present day, the Illuminati investigators, the very people who COULD help the world by unmasking the plot, are still on the trail of the Jews, who were scapegoated BY the Illuminati! What a tragedy! These “Illuminati”-chasers, “Illuminati”-exposers, are actually serving Illuminati ends, falling for Illuminati tricks, helping to CLOAK the Illuminati, by perpetuating misinformation ABOUT the Illuminati.

Anonymous said...

So, here also, you will find me in DISAGREEMENT with other believers in the Illuminati. I, for one, am if anything PRO-Jewish, and PRO-Israel. And by the way, some of the best works that have been written to EXPOSE the Illuminati have been written BY Jews. Even some by Orthodox RABBIS! Indeed my own personal favorite of all anti-Illuminati books was written by an Orthodox Jewish Rabbi. Also, the man who first taught me about the Illuminati in 1965, was pro-Israel, and pro-Jewish. He was a 70 year old scholar. He had studied the conspiracy for a LIFETIME. I was privileged to have his LIFETIME of knowledge on this and other subjects imparted to me, and to ADD to that education, the installment of the last 37 years of my own research. I believe that next to the United States Constitution and the Christian Faith, world Jewry and the State of Israel are the greatest obstacles to the Illuminati global scheme succeeding. That is why the Bible depicts all nations aligned against Israel. Israel stands in the way of the satanic agenda.
Furthermore, the most powerful Illuminist who ever walked this earth was Adolf Hitler. Hitler and the Nazi Party were hatched out of, and sprang from the wings of the ILLUMINATI known as the Thule Gesselschaft, the Germanenorden, and the theosophist circles in Germany. This branch of the Illuminati promoted ancient paganism, the old gods of pagan Germany, and theosophical occultism. It was as thoroughly anti-Christian as it was anti-Jewish. The Illuminati created, shaped and crafted Hitler and the Nazis. Study deeply enough into the occult background of Hitler , Himmler, Rudolf Steiner, Aleister Crowley and Helena Blavatsky, and find out what the Thule Society really was, and you will see. The same Illuminati that earlier launched waves of anti-Semitism with the Protocols trick, launched the Holocaust that murdered six million innocent Jewish people. It is my assertion that anyone hoping to correctly research and understand The Illuminati Conspiracy, must filter out, purge out, and reject as deadly error any and every anti-Jewish allegation or innuendo they encounter in the literature. To fail to screen their research thus, and to fall for even the slightest measure of the slander against the Jews, is to admit the Illuminati’s “Trojan horse” into the work. It will pervert the investigation. It will defeat and destroy it. This is one of the chief reasons why generations of exposés have been impotent against the advance of The Conspiracy. Under investigation, the error of incriminating the Jews is FOUND TO BE error indeed, and the net result is that the entire exposé gets DISCREDITED.

Anonymous said...

My foregoing plea to purge the anti-Jewish error from Illuminati research should probably be qualified, lest the same kind of error be made at the reverse end of the spectrum, which also would discredit the research and do a dis-service to truth. With all the thousands of human beings involved in the illuminist conspiracy spanning the 225 years since Weishaupt’s hour, and in the millennia that I assert the movement has existed, were none of the players of Jewish extraction? Certainly there were Jews in it, just as there were people in it from nearly EVERY ethnic grouping on earth, Germans, Frenchmen, Englishmen, Japanese, and Tibetans. And from a wide spectrum of religious and philosophical schools of thought, BUDDHISTS, SUFI MOSLEMS, HINDUS, GNOSTICS, ROMAN CATHOLICS, NEOPLATONIST SYNCRETISTS AND ATHEISTS. A false picture is created by singling out those only of Jewish extraction. So many Roman Catholics have been involved through the centuries, that if we were to ONLY look for Roman Catholics and EMPHASIZE their role, the false picture could be painted that the great conspiracy is PURELY Roman Catholic in nature. Similarly, So many Hindu influences have been involved, that if we were to ONLY look for Hindu influences and emphasize their role, the false picture could be painted that the conspiracy is purely HINDU in nature. Any rational person thinking the matter through can see the utter fallacy and folly of building a case on having “spotted a Jew” in the ranks of the conspirators. What of the Roman Catholic Swede seated on his right, and the Tibetan Buddhist seated on his left? What about the Anglo-Saxon Episcopalian, or the Nazi? It is an outrage that some Conspiracy researchers cannot see and DO NOT CARE ABOUT any other ethnic representations in the mix other than Jewish. The twisted obsession with finding Jews in the works has led to false “demographics."

Anonymous said...

When discussing things “Jewish” special attention needs to be paid to the matter of the KABBALAH, spelled alternatively Qabbala, Cabala, etc. I cannot here post my entire study, proofs, and reasons for it, but will just state my raw assertion: The Kabbalah and Kabbalism is wrongly seen by Jews and non-Jews alike, as something distinctly “Jewish.” It is almost universally referred to as “Jewish mysticism.” But it is NOT Jewish. Pagan, non-Jewish religions and philosophies, and magical beliefs and practices were THE WOMB FROM WHICH THE KABBALAH CRAWLED. It should never have been permitted to creep in and lodge itself in Jewish circles. My assertion is that the Orthodox Jewish Faith as derived purely and strictly from The Holy Scriptures, the five books of Moses and what we commonly refer to as The Old Testament, is the true “Judaism.” Those who adhere to THAT Faith are what I call true “Jews.” The Kabbalah and Kabbalism did NOT arise from THAT pure stream. It gained access FROM WITHOUT, due to flagrant disobedience to the Jewish Faith. It was a clear command of the Jewish Faith, “Learn not the ways of the heathen.” See Jeremiah 10:2 and Deuteronomy 18:9. In particular, it was the RELIGIOUS “WAYS” and concepts of the surrounding heathen cultures that God forbade the Israelites to learn and adopt.
The Kabbalah developed in complete VIOLATION of those injunctions. Babylonian, Persian, Neoplatonist and Gnostic religious ideas were learned from “the heathen” and were subtly insinuated into the thinking of fringe “Jewish” cults, RESULTING in that so-called “Jewish” mysticism known as Kabbalism. At times, various Orthodox Jewish rabbis CONDEMNED this pagan invasion. Some rightly denounced practicing Kabbalism as “APOSTACY” FROM THE JEWISH FAITH. Although those righteous voices are today toned down, if not entirely muted, I fully concur: Practicing Kabbalism IS an “apostacy” from The Jewish Faith. It constitutes a revolt from Judaism and adherance to PAGAN, gentile, heathen religion. I assert that he who makes Kabbalism his religion is no Jew. He has changed religions. I further urge that anyone who considers himself a good Orthodox Jew take a stand against Kabbalism, and denounce its INFILTRATION into the Jewish world. Up through history, this was known in Jewry, that going off into the speculations and theosophical mysticism of the Kabbalah was frowned upon by the purest of “Orthodox” Jewish rabbis. And yet, men succumbed to the temptation, and did it anyway. Among the worst types of “ex-Jews” who abandoned Orthodox Judaism for Kabbalism was a sect known as the Zoharists, followers of THE APOSTATE, JACOB FRANK.

Anonymous said...

The Zoharists or “FRANKISTS” indulged in sex orgies and every manner of blasphemy and violation of and REPUDIATION OF THE JEWISH FAITH. The Jewish community banned these renegade apostates as heretics. These Frankist Kabbalists taught their followers to SECRETLY renounce and leave The Jewish Faith, but to KEEP UP THE OUTWARD PUBLIC APPEARANCE OF BEING PRACTICING JEWS (as the Sabbateans before them had done). Some of these Frankists and other Kabbalists, whom I assert were no Jews, but enemies of The Jewish Faith , did indeed become Illuminati members and operatives. There were some Frankists, Sabatteans, Kabbalists, apostate “ex-Jews” in the Illuminati. To blame WORLD Jewry for the activities of these and other apostate “EX-Jews” is a supreme injustice. Using these apostates as evidence to implicate world Jewry in their activities makes as much sense as using the deeds of Judas Iscariot, the “ex-Christian” as an example of CHRISTIAN activities in our world. My assertion is, that if you want to properly and fairly understand TRUE Jews in our world, you should use as your example “ORTHODOX” OR “OBSERVANT” JEWS AND RABBIS WHO SHUN KABBALAH, WHO HAVE NO TAINT OF KABBALISM IN THEIR RELIGION, AND WHOSE FAITH IS BASED ON THE SCRIPTURES. There you have the world’s “true” Jews. But when you find renegades, apostates, atheists, theosophists and Kabbalists, ex-Jews masquerading as “Jews,” do not use them as a means to condemn world Jewry.
I also see Jerusalem and the land of Israel in the middle east as rightly belonging to them. I enthusiastically support the State of Israel as it serves such Observant Orthodox Jews as THAT, and I am against all machinations and influences that would take land out of their hands or weaken them in the middle east or make them vulnerable to hostile powers. I favor a strong Israel for the Jewry I have just described. It is complete error for Illuminati researchers to implicate THAT complex, THAT world Jewry in the Great Conspiracy. But it is an entirely different matter when you are discussing so-called “Jews” who are Kabbalists, Zoharists, Frankists, Shabbateans, atheists, the irreligious or non-religious, and those who practice the occult, or who mingle pagan religion into their “Jewish” religion. I confess with sorrow that some of this sort, apostates and heretics, have been found working with the Illuminati conspiracy. But they should not be called “Jews.” It is a tragic fact that they give the legitimate and genuine Jews of the world a bad name. People researching the Illuminati conspiracy need to take great care not to soil true world Jewry with the mud of a few apostates.

Anonymous said...

HOW TO INVESTIGATE THE ILLUMINATI

for more see:

What is the Illuminati?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/illuminati.htm

John Rupp, Jr. said...

Is there a relationship between the "Skull and Bones" sororiety at Yale University and the Illuminati? I have read before that some guy with the last name of Russell from Yale took a year to study in Germany in 1830 and being influenced by the Illuminati came back in 1831 and started Skull and Bones. Prescott Bush, HW Bush and George Bush were three generation members. I do remember seeing Tim Russert on NBC interview John Kerry and George Bush back when they were running against each other for president and he asked them about their involvement with Skull and Bones and they both acknowledged they were members but they both said they couldn't comment on anything about it because it is so secret. They kind of laughed it off.
John

John Rupp, Jr. said...

Another point of interest is that I saw sometime last winter on the news that HW Bush had a private "Closed to the Press" meeting with Obama at the White House. I wonder what that was all about.?
John

Anonymous said...

Faculty/Students/Alumni rally behind fired Professor

Faculty and students are rallying behind a University of Illinois professor whom they say was fired simply because of his religious beliefs.

Dr. Kenneth Howell, an adjunct professor who taught courses on Catholicism, was told recently that he could no longer teach in the university's Department of Religion. A student at the university accused Howell of engaging in hate speech when he stated in a class review session that he agreed with the Church's teaching that homosexual sex is immoral.

But Howell refused to leave without a fight, and now he has over 3,100 supporters fighting with him -- via a Facebook group called “Save Dr. Ken.”

For more...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/
2010/07/16/students-alumni-rally-u-
illinois-professor-fired-
expressing-catholic-beliefs/?
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Anonymous said...

To John Rupp, Jr. (2:28 PM):
Re: "HW Bush had a private 'Closed to the Press' meeting (last winter) with Obama' at the White House."
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Why should that surprise anyone? They are both on 'the same NWO page' - plus never forget that the Left/Right paradigm is an illusion.

Anonymous said...

'I have read before that some guy with the last name of Russell from Yale took a year to study in Germany in 1830 and being influenced by the Illuminati came back in 1831 and started Skull and Bones.'

Study a little deeper John Rupp Jr. Let us know what you find.

Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:32

I think time will show that you’re correct. In fact hasn’t time run out?

The word confirm in the Hebrew or Greek translation in Daniel does not explicitly mean nor suggest a confirmation of a previous or existing covenant.

rg

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