Monday, March 29, 2010

BREAKING NEWS -- ARREST OF CHRISTIAN MILITIA MEMBERS IN 3 STATES




MICHIGAN ATTORNEY PETER VELLENGA WILL BE MY RADIO GUEST TO DISCUSS PROJECT MEGIDDO AND THE MILITIA SITUATION TUESDAY, MARCH 30, 2010, 8 p.m. EASTERN STANDARD TIME


Driving home this afternoon, I paused my Spanish learning CD long enough to hear breaking news that the FBI had raided militias in Indiana, Michigan, and Ohio.  It was pointedly said that one of the Militias was a "Christian Militia."  I decided to check it out and learned that the Christian Militia was called "Hutaree."  I went to its website and downloaded available materials and links.

I noticed several disturbing things.  They were preparing an armed militia ostensibly for end time events, ""Preparing for the end time battles to keep the testimony of Jesus Christ alive."

I noticed in their links materials that may have well come from my research and that of Herb Peters.  More disturbingly, I saw Mark Koernke referenced on some of their discussion forums.  I challenged Koernke who once called himself "Mark of Michigan" at an assembly as early as 1993.  He was putting fear filled audiences in a state of virtual paralysis by making declarations that helicopters were about to land to pick them up any given moment.  He was also preaching a highly anti-semitic line.  I made a political statement by denouncing him and walking out.  The group sponsoring him to speak had me speak only a few months earlier.  Happily, many followed me out.

Koernke has mixed some truths with extreme error.  The grapevine here in Michigan was that he was a Hitler admirer.  I do not know if that is true, but he was causing panic in his audiences by causing them to relate things perhaps entirely unrelated to his projections of soon persecution.  Of course, he and his friends were selling emergency food rations, i.e. profiting off those sufficiently panicked by him to buy what he suggested.  He also praised those selling off shore investments.  Those selling guns and munitions weren't doing too badly financially from it either!

I have noticed that among many claiming to fight "the New World Order" that they are all "financial experts," every one of them.  Their song and dance usually is:  "your money is safe with me, little girl."

I don't know the motivations, guilt, or innocence of those in the Hutaree Militia.  I suspect they are well motivated, but misguided biblically as to approach.  The Bible indeed does warn of an impending anti-Christ and many, if not most, even all of the signs appear to be clearly imminent.

HOWEVER, the Scriptures told us how the believers successfully overcame the Beast who won some important battles against them, but not the war:

"THEY OVERCAME THE BEAST BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB, THE WORD OF THEIR TESTIMONY AND THEY LOVED NOT THEIR LIVES UNTO THE DEATH." (Revelation 12:11)

I remember reading nothing there about guns, learning to shoot at UN helmets, a bigger and better RV vehicle, or even food.

Scripturally, we were warned, (Isaiah 8:11-14)


 For the LORD spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying,
12 Say ye not, A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid.
13 Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.
14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.


I do not know what has gone down here, the news is still scanty, but those caught up in this need our prayers and understanding.  We also need to appreciate the evil times we are in and the subtlety and temptations of the evil one and his confederates.  Above all we need to be circumspect in this period of obvious "war on fundamentalism."  The problem with many fundamentalists, in my opinion is that they are not fundamentalist enough.  THOU SHALT NOT KILL is clearly a FUNDAMENTAL!  Please remember also, that as there were agents-provacateurs (double agents -- inciting and then reporting) in past historical struggles, in end time events there are sure to be no shortage of same -- in our very midst -- encouraging behaviors that could lead to the speedy shutting down of the rest of us.

"Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil."

Stay in prayer, and stay tuned!

CONSTANCE
Comments:
Video coverage here:

http://www.gardenyoutube.com/video_uDyE8KeLoVw_tag_Hutaree.html

Homeland Security, FBI, heavy equipment, Joint Terrorism Task Force -- several arrests.

This is BIG news! "Helicopters were flying over most of the night and policemen were everywhere . . ." From above video link
 
Further" "The presence of federal agents seemed more like a small army . . ."

Found nearly 2,000 google links googling "koernke" and "Hutaree Militia" together. Koernke had clearly occult and anti-semitic notions when Ijavascript:void(0) confronted him back in 1993.
Here is a better link to the video

http://tinyurl.com/y8fdaok

Constance
 
Wow, that's about all I can come up with at this point.
 
The Christian Militia story in Michigan is also the top story on the Drudge Report.
 
More videos:

http://www.infowars.com/large-fbi-
homeland-security-operation-
targets-militias-in-michigan-
indiana-ohio/
 
Attorney Peter Vellenga of Boyne City, Michigan has researched homeland security campaigns against perceived fundamentalist threats and an official report called PROJECT MEGIDDO for a long time. He will be my radio guest on MY PERSPECTIVE at www.themicroeffect.com, 8 p.m. Eastern Time, Tuesday night.

Constance
 
This is very foreboding! As I am watching CNN report on these raids, they are identifying these groups with prophecy believing christians alone. No mention of the errant teachings of the group, no mention that all of the raids were not on similar groups. Still no mention as to the true reason for the raids.

I have expected this for some time. They are begining to dismantle their armed opposition first. I would not be suprised if it comes out that these groups were involved with recent threats against congressmen that had Washington in a panic during the past week. Pay attention folks, the war on terror has just come home to roost!
 
JD,

I think you are right about a connection to threats in "Washington" as generally folks that keep to selves are left alone until some perceived real and genuine threat. And yes the media will paint it as "fundamentalists" and the powers that be will spin it against "Christians" as a whole. There are many, many God-fearing Christian who believe in the need to defend self with weapons and do not Graps that He alone is our defense.
 
Obama and company refuse to call muslims terrorists..They prefer to call tea partiers, right to life, vets, and christians as terroriss and a threat to USA, as they did last year in their homeland security assessment..
As I see it only antichrist would call the above group terrorists and the homocidal, suicidal muslim terrorists peaceful...
If anything we need more Christian militia...to expose the evil in washington D.C.
 
Ruth,


The problem is these militia groups are no more a fair representation of Christians, than Jim Jones or even Hitler have been painted to be. I do agree that only the spirit of antichrist would lump all christians together like this, and I do agree that it is certainly part of the beastly system coming to prominence. Remember though, that it is the second beast who is given the power to put to death those who refuse to worship the first.
 
"If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land."
(2 Chron 7:14)
 
Tim,

I agree, He is to be our shield. I can only speak for myself, but I can't help but notice how close He is drawing me as these events continue to unfold. I find I am caring less everyday for the things of this world and more for the work He has put before me. As such my love for people, even those I have never met grows, while my disdain for the advancement of this unholy alliance becomes hardened. With that in mind, I can say that despite the fact that there are firearms in my home, the only weapon I intend to take up is the Word. If they intend to persecute me, they will have to do so based soley onmy faith. I am certain they will lie about me anyway, but those who know me will know the truth.
 
From AFP (03/19/10)
SCIENTISTS STUMPED AS BEE POPULATION DECLINES FURTHER

The decline in the US bee population, first observed in 2006, is continuing, a phenomenon that still baffles researchers and beekeepers.
Data from the US Department of Agriculture show a 29 percent drop in beehives in 2009, following a 36 percent decline in 2008 and a 32 percent fall in 2007.

This affects not only honey production but around 15 billion dollars worth of crops that depend on bees for pollination.

Scientists call the phenomenon "colony collapse disorder" that has led to the disappearance of millions of adult bees and beehives and occurred elsewhere in the world including in Europe.

Researchers have looked at viruses, parasites, insecticides, malnutrition and other environmental factors but have been unable to pinpoint a specific cause for the population decline.

The rough winter in many parts of the United States will likely accentuate the problem, says Jeff Pettis, lead researcher at Department of Agriculture's Bee Research Laboratory in Beltsville, Maryland.

Winter figures will be published in April. But preliminary estimates already indicate losses of 30 to 50 percent, said David Mendes, president of the American Beekeeping Federation.

"There are a lot of beekeepers who are in trouble" he said.

"Under normal condition you have 10 percent winter losses.. this year there are 30, 40 to 50 percent losses."

He said the phenomenon probably results from a combination of factors but that the increased use of pesticides appears to be a major cause.

"I don't put my bees in Florida because the last couple of years there has been tremendous increase in pesticide use in the orange crop to fight a disease," he said.

"It's a bacterium and the only way to control this disease is to use pesticide... a few years ago they did not use any pesticide at all."

He said that pesticide use "has changed dramatically" and has made beekeeping "more challenging."

Research conducted in 23 US states and Canada and published in the Public Library of Science journal found 121 different pesticides in 887 samples of bees, wax, pollen and other elements of hives, lending credence to the notion of pesticides as a key problem.

Pettis said the finding of pesticide residue is "troubling."

"It might not be the only factor but it's a contributing factor," he said.

The best thing to help bees, he said its "to try to limit habitat destruction," leaving more natural areas in agriculture and in cities such so honey bees can have "a diverse natural environment."

Ironically, he said the problem stems from expansion of agriculture to feed the world. But in destroying bee populations, that can hurt crop production.

"The world population growth is in a sense the reason for pollinators' decline," he said.

"Because we need to produce more and more food to feed the world and we grow crops in larger fields. A growing world means growing more food and to do that we need pollinators. And the fact that the world is continuing to grow is the driving force behind the habitat destruction."
 
Correction: the article above was from 3/29/10.
 
6:00 am on the micro effect
Morning Intelligence Report
With Host Mark Koernke

This is why I was all over Constances case,
I could not understand why she was on the same network as this guy whom I knew was a bad apple.
Birds of a feather and such. Explanation please?
Biblically speaking we are to turn away from and not fellowship these kinds of people.
 
6:00 am on the micro effect
Morning Intelligence Report
With Host Mark Koernke

This is why I was all over Constances case,
I could not understand why she was on the same network as this guy whom I knew was a bad apple.
Birds of a feather and such. Explanation please?
Biblically speaking we are to turn away from and not fellowship these kinds of people.
 
This is my third try. First two trys ended in a 404 error message.

Back when the militia movement was extremely active, I went to meetings in the next town over to see what was going on. The average person who came to these meetings were just average person who had started to learn about the subversive activities taking place in churches, schools and government and wanted to know more. They were easy prey for the manipulators who ran the meetings.

The manipulators were those who ran the meetings and who showed up in flannel and jeans, never giving their names or hometowns, and supported the information given by the leaders who ran the group. There were a lot of handouts and some big name speakers were brought in, but there was nothing given that people could use. Those who wanted to become activists were invited to come to other meetings held by the leaders. After a while the public meetings stopped.

There was a definite New Age connection in that New Age materials were part of the handout. David Duke, a major New Age promoter was one of the speakers. His books are still sold in New Age bookstores.

There was one meeting which was very well attended where Koerneke appeared. The audience was filled with people in everyday work clothes. He came in with an expensive suit and an entourage. It was clear that he was going to be the authority. I still don't know if he was working for the government as an agent provateur. He was too smart to be just another follower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Koernke

It's been said there are more infiltrators into these kinds of groups than members themselves.

Another point is that there are many Muslim training encampments around the US, there may be some Afrocentric ones, and the Nazi movement is large. Why the emphasis on Christian militia people? Could it be the other groups are useful to the larger group of manipulators?
 
I wrote the long one on the militia people.

Dorothy
 
Two UK news stories on schools fingerprinting students for ID purposes without parental consent.

No legal requirement exists in the UK at present for schools to seek parental consent for using biometric technologies!

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#1 - School apologises after pupils were 'frogmarched' to be fingerprinted so they could eat in canteen

Daily Mail - http://tinyurl.com/yg4qsp3

#2 - Warning over pupil fingerprinting

BBC - http://tinyurl.com/yajksdc

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~K~
 
Talk Radio News Service (03/29/10)

SARKOZY CALLS FOR WORLD ECONOMIC REGULATION AND 'REINVENTION' OF THE NEW WORLD ECONOMY . . .

President Sarkozy Of France Says Europe And America Must Come Up With New Answers

President Nicolas Sarkozy of France is in the United States this week to meet with President Obama to discuss Afghanistan and pressing global financial issues. His first stop this morning was at Columbia University’s World Leaders Forum. Participants in the Forum meet with academia and students to spark international debate on the world’s most sensitive concerns. The Forum also boasts free expression and an end to censorship.

President Sarkozy previously served as the Minister of Interior and Finance for the government of France.

“In following him, one has the sense that he is more inclined than most to express his views. President Sarkozy is sure to be praised for his determined leadership,” said the head of the Forum in the opening address.

President Sarkozy highlighted the warm relations between France and the United States. “Through you I am addressing the great people of the United States so that you should understand that Europe and the United States of America must work together. We are your European friends. We in Europe admire you, you need not worry about that,” he added.

Sarkozy emphasized that if Europe and America do not redesign the global financial architecture, then no other alliance will succeed. He highlighted the urgent need for an open discussion on the economic crisis and world economic regulation.

“We can no longer expect a capitalist system where there are no rules, no regulation, no protectionism.”

Sarkozy will meet with President Obama tomorrow to discuss the global economic collapse and to propose a “reinvention” of the new world economy. He will also congratulate Obama on his reform of the health care system.

Additionally, Mr. Sarkozy cited the escalation and crash of oil prices and fossil fuels and the need for countries producing these resources to regulate prices.

He also called for a full reform of the United Nations Security Council where not a single African country (1 billion people) is represented.

“Nor is there a single Arab country represented or India, where there are over 1 billion people and it is the second most powerful economy and does not have a seat–why is that the case? How do you expect to regulate without these countries? Is that responsible? Does that make any sense to you?” he added.

Sarkozy and Prime Minister Gordon Brown of the United Kingdom recently initiated a greater push for full reform of the Security Council.

He added that Iran must not be allowed to “get its hands on nuclear weapons” and that the alliance between Europe and the United States is particularly essential in this regard. He also gave praise to Obama in working to fight terrorism and said the Moscow train bombings this morning demonstrate the urgency for the world community to work together to put an end to global terrorism
 
Here in the UK, CCFON (Christian Concern For Our Nation) posted a link in their 'In the Press' section of their website to the following Right Side News story with YouTube video;

Jihad in Philadelphia and Jihad USA.

Frank Gaffney addresses the Defense Forum Foundation (DFF) in the House of Representatives on the topic of Shariah and, broadly defined, it's threat within the United States. Some topics include Shariah-Compliant finance and AIG, homeland security and the Muslim Brotherhood.

http://tinyurl.com/yk327sa

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To be honest, I don't understand what this is all about but it might be of interest to some of you folks in the US as it seems to be particularly concerned about issues that might affect the US constitution.

My apologies, if it's old or non-relevant news.

~K~
 
My experience over a decade ago with the Feds. taught me how evil they are. I attended meetings to learn things not available elsewhere. I met various people, some good, some bad. I met a very nice woman who lived in my area who is still my friend. The Feds had gone after her husband, accused him of helping someone else evade taxes and imprisoned him. After he was out of prison they were going after him again and he fled. They harassed her extremely using groups of local and federal cops. She is a paralegal and was better able to defend herself than most others. Because they could not intimidate her they went after her friends. I was among four women who were terrorized on the same morning by U.S. Marshalls who accused us of knowing where her husband was. I had never even seen a picture of her husband. She had never been to my house. We sometimes spoke on the phone. We talked at public meetings. For this I was terrorized and threatened. My husband was also threatened though he had never even met my friend. The goon squad came when I was home alone and broke into my house and threatened. me. I was traumatized. All because I had this woman, who was not guilty of a crime, for a friend.
 
One person I DO NOT fellowship with is MARK KOERNKE -- I thank God I can offer refutation to his perverted theories on the same network. I believe I was on first -- I had no knowledge or control over others who may broadcast from the same network.

Constance
 
Anon 5:00pm,

I fear these statements from Sarkozy as well as recent statements of like nature from Brown, Barrosso, and others may be initial steps toward externalizing agreements already in place. Agreements such as the Transatlantic Economic Council and its framework toward economic integration between the US and EU. All of the afore mentioned names have sat in on meetings and have great first hand knowledge of the plans. These statements make it seem as if the US is holding back the new system, and if one were to simply follow what is reported in the media, this would appear true.

However the State Department and Clinton have been quitely advancing these agreements while most are preoccupied with the talking blips of the day. The State Department has also recently been touting the EU's role as the perfect model of global governance that many of us have heard time and again from the UN and Brookings. I fear that the US' ability to advance these agreements in secret is drawing to a close and that soon all of this may enter the public domain where it's advancement will be shifted into high gear.
 
Anybody know any millionaires who can give me my own publishing network and radio network?

Otherwise, I sometimes have to rely on what is furnished me, i.e.,, this free google blogspot (for which I am grateful).

In trying to please all of the people all of the time, which I have sometimes accepted bullying preventing me from posting to the more widely read NEWSWITHVIEWS, sometimes the spread of what I have to say is extremely limited.
 
I posted several weeks ago on Sarkozy, wondering if anyone is watching him as a player in all this as I am new to following this blog - I see that some are.

I do not know what role he plays in all of this, and there are many other players - I have followed him for a couple of years and he is responsible for so many things it is unbelievable - although he has had a rough couple of weeks and is not thought of very highly in his own country - he finds a way to bounce back and get right in the middle of things - this guy is more than just another crony - he is DANGEROUS.
 
Thank You Constance!

This will help inform most people who were wondering.

I also do not like news with views.
 
This YOUTUBE of Mark Koernke will in and of itself justify my extreme fears of him as an AGENT PROVOCATEUR!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPxyd3HC12I

Constance
 
I have MIXED feelings about NEWSWITHVIEWS. Dorothy does not like them. But they have sometimes been a valuable outlet for getting news out. They have approximately 1 million hits a month, as I recall it and articles placed there have wide impact.

Constance
 
From ABC News (03/29/10) . . .

IOWA TOWN RENAMES GOOD FRIDAY TO 'SPRING HOLIDAY'

Citing the Separation of Church and State, Davenport, Iowa Nixes Holy Day

One week before the most solemn day in the Christian year, the city of Davenport, Iowa removed Good Friday from its municipal calendar, setting off a storm of complaints from Christians and union members whose contracts give them that day off.

Taking a recommendation by the Davenport Civil Rights Commission to change the holiday's name to something more ecumenical, City Administrator Craig Malin sent a memo to municipal employees announcing Good Friday would officially be known as "Spring Holiday."

"My phone has been ringing off the hook since Saturday," said city council alderman Bill Edmond. "People are genuinely upset because this is nothing but political correctness run amok."

Edmond said the city administrator made the change unilaterally and did not bring it to the council for a vote, a requirement for a change in policy.

"The city council didn't know anything about the change. We were blind sided and now we've got to clean this mess up. How do you tell people the city renamed a 2,000 year old holiday?" said Edmond.

It didn't take long for the city to resurrect the name Good Friday. Malin was overruled today and the words "Spring Holiday" disappeared.

Good Friday commemorates the day Jesus was crucified and died. Christians celebrate his resurrection the following Sunday, Easter.

The Civil Rights Commission said it recommended changing the name to better reflect the city's diversity and maintain a separation of church and state when it came to official municipal holidays.

"We merely made a recommendation that the name be changed to something other than Good Friday," said Tim Hart, the commission's chairman. "Our Constitution calls for separation of church and state. Davenport touts itself as a diverse city and given all the different types of religious and ethnic backgrounds we represent, we suggested the change."
 
(Continued . . .)

News of the change could not have come at more significant time in the Christian calendar. News of the name change spread through the town on Palm Sunday, the beginning of Holy Week, becoming a topic of conversation at church services throughout Davenport.

"If you deny the idea of Good Friday then you have to deny Easter," Monsignor Robert Schmidt told ABC affiliate WQAD.

Hart said the commission had no plans to change the name of Easter Sunday, because it fell on a weekend and government offices were already closed. The commission, he said, discussed changing Christmas, but decided enough other religions celebrate Christmas too. Hart, however, could not name one.

The religious right has attacked town governments that have removed public Christmas displays, calling such practices a "war on Christmas."

City employees, beginning with local police, feared the name change would violate their union contracts with the city, which specifies Good Friday as an official municipal holiday. Employees that work city holidays are paid time and a half.

Davenport officials called the name change an "error."

"The City of Davenport will be observing "Good Friday" as a City Holiday on April 2," read a statement released today.

"City Administrator Malin, in error, forwarded the recommendation to staff for further review and action, leading to release of a holiday notice with the holiday named 'Spring Holiday,' rather than "Good Friday," read the release.

Davenport's mayor said people were right to be angry but that Good Friday would continue to be acknowledged.

"I understand why people were so upset," said Mayor Bill Gluba. "My position is we have a lot more important issues. We'll fix this and move on."
 
DEATH OF CORAL REEFS COULD DEVASTATE NATIONS

http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=
10201140
 
Prince Felipe Of Asturias the Antichrist Beast of Revelation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shKSmcVUiO0
 
If you live by the sword you will die by the sword. Read Foxes Book of Martyrs and you will not read one example of a Christian taking up arms against his or her persecutors
 
Looks like Constance figured how to get the original template back. That's great because that was freaking me out.

All right, Anon. 8:44, I saw the video. I don't get how Prince Felipe is the antichrist, but perhaps he is. The video did nothing to convince me that he is. Please explain why you think Prince Felipe is the best candidate for AC. I'm just curious.
 
Pure nonsense. This is the SON of the present King of Spain. This is probably coming from the same people who said King Juan Carlos of Spain was the antichrist -- a weak constitutional monarchy.
 
If I had to guess about the bees I would say it would be do to genetically modified food.
 
Dorothy,

I am so thankful that you post your experience. It is so helpful (for me at least) to read about your first hand experience.
In today's world, it hard to know what to trust. This is why I am glad we have you, Constance, JD and others that post. It is clarifying anyway.
 
I have a question about World Vision. Are they still connected with NAM?

One of the reasons I am asking has to do with our church. Some of you may remember that our church chose to do a VBS that was produced by Group publishing. I was able to present research (thanks again Old man of the ski!)to the pastor and the VBS coordinator but they went with it anyway.
So this past Sunday they showed a video and now they are also doing something during the week in partnership with World Vision.

Not that the activity itself is bad (making blankets) but why partner with World Vision?

The other thing in the video was that they had this phrase about having a "Jesus sighting". What they were talking about was like if the friend shared then that was their "Jesus sighting" because that person was acting like Jesus.

Okay, I understand the concept. But why call it a "Jesus sighting"?
 
Sorry friends, I made a mistake in my last post. The guy that linked the militia and New Age communities was David Icke. He was the speaker at a militia type meeting and his books are carried in New Age bookstores. I was only a little bit offtrack in saying David Duke however. David Duke, connected with the Nazi movement, also had occult items in his home as reported by an investigator.

My head is so filled with 30 years of information on New Age that sometimes the cells cross.

Yes, Constance and I have a disagreement on using News With Views. I understand her position in trying to get more information out. My position is that most people do not understand how powerful the underground Nazi-antisemitic movement is. Because so few people know, they trust too easily, not know how to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Dorothy
 
I'm getting worried, watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9z32I5n8RM

The DHS says in this file:
http://www.wnd.com/images/dhs-rightwing-extremism.pdf

That we (christians against the nwo) are terrorist. After reading this about the hutaree militia things get even more strange because this hutaree people also have a youtube channel and they have been "following" another youtube user: KeithThruth, whose real name is Keith Thompson, he is a christian also well aware of the new age situation, he even has a video about Mrs. Cumbey.

What do you think?
 
Sorry about my english, i'm mexican and i was kinda nervous when i wrote my previous comment.
 
Dawn,

Worldvision? That would surprise me. They're basically in my backyard here. Many of the people I go to church with work there. I haven't seen any NAM stuff from them, but I guess these days, nothing should surprise me.

I have seen them do some wonderful things, and the people I know there are genuinely Christian. That doesn't mean that all things there are perfect, but overall, I think it's a good organization.

Leana
 
...Just read in the Seattle Times that the Hutaree believed that JAVIER SOLANA is the antichrist. Sure enough, if you go to hutaree.com and click on "beast watch" that is exactly what they believe. Exact same stuff as here and at fulfilled prophecy. I'd be interested to see what evidence the FBI actually has. Now I'm not coming out in defense of the Hutaree group, but even according to their beliefs/teaching (as far as I can tell) the only reason they are armed is so that they can protect Christians once Christians become fugitives.

Take my word for it: you will be seeing a lot more of these raids soon and there will be a huge public backlash against "fundamentalist" Christians. I'm already seeing it among my supposedly Christian friends at a CHRISTIAN university.
 
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/03/30/lawmakers-got-a-deal-on-rent-pastors-charge.html?sid=101

read this article from today's Columbus Dispatch. The local group of "clergymen" in this article are the usual bunch of left-wing liberals calling themselves Christians. The head of the group is in the local news all the time stirring up trouble for fundamentalists. Though one of those fundies is Wild Man Rod Parsley who probably deserves the trouble.
 
Leana, I found this link in a Google search on WorldVision and New Age. http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/worldvision.htm

World Vision also partners with the UN.

I'm sure others could give you more information on their New Age connections.
 
Ahhh my friends, do not be in a hasty spirit; but remember that patience is also a fruit of the spirit, and meekness. Also recall the words of christ ' you cannot add to the days of your life by worrying'.
The beast, must come, it must happen... being aware will not change the events written. but keep thee a cautious mind and a heart turned toward God, and fear shall never take you.
A time is coming, and the man whom is raised out of the sea shall be revealed to us, or have you forgotten that also? I tell you. Do not be the corinthians, whom were warned of dividing themselves, but find thee faith in its true form; and Love the Lord thy God with all thine heart.
Blessed be those that come in the Name of the Lord, blessed be those whom are poor in Spirit.
 
My Dad was a beekeeper in the 1970's, it was a time when all one had to do is set up a hive and manage it well.
They have added so many rules and regulations to the humble art of beekeeping that it is now complex and
hampers the health of the hives.
Add to this the genetically modified foods and traveling beekeepers who work huge plantations (read mono cultures)where the bees get only one kind of nectar/pollen.
When the hive gets sick, the remedy to save it has been denied by the laws to protect it.

I thank God for He has created singular bees, my garden was pollinated last year by singular bees alone, I would suggest people get familiar with what a singular bee looks like, and their habits. People who spray the lawn for weeds are threatening singular bees, try to use organic pesticides you can make in your kitchen using diluted soap, cayenne pepper, garlic and milk can be diluted and used against molds.
 
From THE NEW YORK TIMES this morning:

"The Hutaree — a word Mr. Stone apparently made up to mean Christian warriors — saw the local police as “foot soldiers” for the federal government, which the group viewed as its enemy, along with other participants in what the group’s members deemed to be a “New World Order” working on behalf of the Antichrist, the indictment said.

Eight defendants were arrested over the weekend in raids in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana, the Justice Department said. The authorities arrested the Stones’ eldest son, Joshua M. Stone, 21, shortly before 9 p.m. Monday in Pittsford, Mich., about 20 miles west of his family’s home, an F.B.I. spokeswoman, Sandra Berchtold, said.

A grand jury had secretly returned the indictments against the nine last Tuesday.

A law enforcement official said the plot appeared to be unconnected to recent threats against Democratic lawmakers who voted for legislation overhauling the nation’s health care system. According to the indictment, the group — apparently centered in Lenawee County, about 70 miles southwest of Detroit — has been meeting regularly since at least August 2008.

The group’s Web site suggested that it was motivated by apocalyptic religious scenarios more than any secular political fears. A rare mention of earthly politics on the site is a page devoted to discussion of efforts to unite Europe, with a suggestion that one high-ranking European official, Javier Solana, might be the Antichrist.

Chip Berlet, a senior analyst at Political Research Associates, a liberal-leaning nonprofit group that tracks far-right networks, said the Hutaree’s philosophy was drawn from a populist strand that fuses fear of a conspiracy to create a one-world government with a belief that a war is imminent between Christians and the Antichrist, as described in the Bible’s Book of Revelation.

In April 2009, the Department of Homeland Security produced a report warning of a rising threat of right-wing terrorism, citing factors like economic troubles, the election of a black president and perceived threats to United States sovereignty.

Mark Potok, who leads a program that tracks right-wing groups for the Southern Poverty Law Center, said it first took note of the Hutaree last year amid a surge in new “Patriot” movement groups, race-based hate groups, extremist anti-immigrant groups, Christian militants and other variations.

“We’re seeing all kinds of radical right-wing groups grow very rapidly, especially in the militia world,” Mr. Potok said."

How long before they come after us? I don't know what the truth or falsity is of the accusations. It is imperative that ALL refrain from VIOLENCE or any THREAT OF VIOLENCE. I have had threats in the past from Michigan Militia people for quoting the Revelation passage that "they overcame the Beast by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony and they loved not their lives unto the death." This was in early 1995 just before the Oklahoma City bombings that I had actual threats from militia activists. Those upset at us for reporting the obvious will use any excuse to shut down our TESTIMONY. I fear we are on the verge of serious marginalization and even persecution. We have to keep faith in God no matter what, remembering that He's got the BIG PICTURE, we have the LITTLE PICTURE. This is a time to remember the Daniel account of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego! "The God whom we serve is able to deliver us, but even if he does not deliver us, O King, we will not worship the image."

Constance
 
World Vision could not be more closely connected with the New Age agenda. They fought me VICIOUSLY from the very inception of my work. Stanley Mooneyham who headed it when I began my research was advocating abortion and "death control." This is NOT, however, to say that if you are sponsoring a child through them that you should stop. That child needs you!

Constance
 
here is a blog spot talking about metallic green singular bees to get people acquainted with these pollinators, I have seen them in other colors as well


http://pollinators.blogspot.com/2009/08/metallic-green-bee-good-pollinator.html
 
One might well suspect that DAVID ICKE and DAVID DUKE were "separated at birth." Their philosophies, cosmology, and cosmogony are virtually identical. Both are into key facets of the New Age!

Constance
 
Bee info:
Thanks for the very cool info about
my friends and yours, the bees.
I wonder if the other colors that
you saw may have been
transleucence ? The singular bees
are really quite green apparently,
no ?
Serious stuff.
Only God can do that.
Honey is a miracle food that
virtually never goes bad. They
found honey in pharoh's tombs.
It was still edible !
I also enjoy bananas apples,
oranges etc., thanks to bees,

And don't get me started on
wheat. MIRACLE food.
Clean dry wheat lasts for ten
years or more.

Have a good one.
 
Constance,
I agree. I did some serious pray and sole searching when reconizing fully what World Vision is connected with. It came down to continuining to support the child in a unique way. We also have at times sent money to purchase animals for assorted others. I also have not felt led to discuss in details the problems with World Vision with wife, and pray for the folks that receive gifts, that some how will draw to truth. It is really going to become harder and harder to help those in other countries without assistance via NGO's or those with new age ties. Especially since "global poverty" is on the NWO agenda (mainly with a focus on finding some zero sum balance).
 
Gee whiz!

Why didn't the main stream media give the recent Code Pink incident equal press time with the news about the "Hutaree Militia????"

The "Code-Pinkers" are just as likely - if not more likely, vis a vis sympathizers like Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, and other terrorists of their ilk who are now "mainstream" and even teaching in our colleges - to perpetrate violence against our government and law enforcement officials as SOME (not all) of the Militias.

Just asking.


CODE PINK MOB SHUTS DOWN ROVE BOOK EVENT

By Michelle Malkin • March 30, 2010 02:31 AM

http://michellemalkin.com
/2010/03/30/code-pink-mob-shuts
-down-rove-book-event/
 
Here is another gem:

FBI CHARGES ANTI SEMITIC NUTBALL WITH THREATS AGAINST GOP REP. CANTOR AND FAMILY;..."YOU RECEIVE MY BULLETS IN YOUR OFFICE, REMEMBER THEY WILL BE PLACED IN YOUR HEADS."

By Michelle Malkin •
March 29, 2010 12:39 PM

Just obtained this from the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Philadelphia:

Today, a two-count complaint and warrant was filed charging Norman Leboon with threatening to kill United States Congressman Eric Cantor and his family, and threatening to kill Congressman Eric Cantor, who is an official of the United States, announced United States Attorney Michael L. Levy and FBI Special Agent in Charge Jan Fedarcyk. As set forth in the affidavit to the complaint and warrant, in or about late March, 2010, Leboon created and then transmitted a YouTube video to Google over the internet, in which he threatened to kill Congressman Cantor and his family. No harm came to the Congressman or his family as a result of Leboon’s threats.

“The Department of Justice takes threats against government officials seriously, especially threats to kill or injure others,” said Levy. “Whether the reason for the threat is personal or political, threats are not protected by the First Amendment and are crimes.”.....

....A search for “Norman LeBoon” on YouTube yields some bizarro stuff — including this channel where a Norman LeBoon claims to be a Shia Muslim who is the 12th imam and this video where other Muslims angry at LeBoon refute his Mahdi claim.......

http://michellemalkin.com
/2010/03/29/document-drop-fbi
-charges-anti-semitic-nutball-
with-threats-against-gop-rep
-cantor-family/
 
P.S. In the same article about Norman LeBoon posted above, Michelle Malkin continues:


More from Jammie Wearing Fool, who notes: “LeBoon just so happens to be a Barack Obama donor. Somehow I doubt that’ll be part of any headlines.”
 
THE REAL ANTI-AMERICANS

Pat Buchanan: It's leftists who have history of political violence, not tea partiers.

Posted: March 29, 2010
7:57 pm Eastern

By Patrick J. Buchanan

http://www.wnd.com/index.php
?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=133893
 
Just open up the Yellow Pages of your telephone book and see how many different denominations are listed, each claiming to go by the "Bible alone," but no two of them agree on exactly what the Bible means. One thing we know for sure: The Holy Spirit cannot be the author of this confusion. God cannot lead people to contradictory beliefs because his truth is one. The conclusion? The "Bible alone" theory must be false.

Lisa, I'm not saying that I fit into your category but tell me...are you suggesting that adding to the Bible is okay? Is there a limit to what you might add or is everything okay?

Those of you who chose to call me names did not read what I said in my post. Instead you took it as anti-Catholic and anti-Jew. I simply asked a few questions and you reacted to it. I would ask again, why are things the way they are?

JD, a great post. Let's all be diverse and accept every form of belief. It prevents us from performing the tough job of telling the truth.

Does the microchip thing really matter? If you believe in eternal salvation, how could God promise it and take it away based on a computer chip? I do believe that security of the saints is a fundamental Christian doctrine.

As for the anonymous person who posted against my comments, I'm leaving here too. I guess I chased myself off. Keep your diverse views of Biblical interpretation. You'll discuss meaningless things and embrace one another as much as you please.

It's fun to talk about and it's even more fun to be the leader of it...JD. Nothing happens that God did not sanction, however.

To spread a doctrine that puts fear in people, one that suggests that we'll lose our salvation that is promised through faith in Almighty God and extends all the way back to Abraham, based on accidentally getting chipped is blasphemy. It is to say that our behavior determines our salvation... or worse yet that we can accidentally override the will of God without knowing it. It is a doctrine of works over faith at best.

You have replied to every post I've posted here as though you're some kind of spiritual leader here. You've done it to everyone else too. And your doctrine does not line up with the scripture you profess to believe in. You think you're some sort of peacemaker but your reluctance to tell the truth is astounding to me.

You embrace all ways when there is only one way. And you seem to think that it's okay to scare people away from the truth with a micro-chip which weighs not one iota on whether a person is chosen by God or not.

You've hijacked the discussion here completely and you call it study. It isn't study. It's all guesswork and opinion, the ends of which are anti-scriptural.

Steve
 
Sarkozy is on CSpan right now.
He's talking to Columbia U and
the world, about very big things
indeed. He is very persuasive and
dynamic and, clearly he wants an
end of free market capitalism
as we know it.
 
Wow, now he's ( Sarkozy ) talking
World Governance.
I guess the cat's out of the bag
and halfway down the street.
 
Steve,
Let me get this straight, you don't believe the microchip is the mark of the beast or a precursor to the mark of the beast, and that people can accidentally get the mark of the beast, and repent of it and still be saved?

I could not really understand your last post, and this was the impression I was left with.
 
That was going to be my question - not to offend anyone - but - How can you be chipped accidentally? I thought it was clear that we have a choice as to whether we take the mark.

Correct me if I am wrong.
 
Leanna and Dawn,

World Vision pushes many Sustainable Development projects, including but not limited to microcredit and the projects of Grameen and Muhammad Yunus. Yunus is a ambassador for Lucis Trusts World Goodwill. Need I say more?
 
This is such an informative group of posts!

This passage of scripture kind of came to mind just now, and it seems so appropriate to many of the discussions at hand:

"...All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, 'God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.' Humble yourselves, therefore, under God's mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time. Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you. Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kind of sufferings. And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast. To him be the power for ever and ever. Amen." -- 1 Peter 5:5-11

Back in the 90s, I was getting "sucked in" by the far right, and people like Koernke and J. J. Johnson and others. For me it was all about preps - guns and butter and fighting the NWO. Like the false prophets, many in the Militia/antigovernment movement were in it to make money. Others .... well, Constance, you are right, and this cannot be stressed too much: There are agent provocateurs implanted among the various right-wing/left-wing groups, many of which are similar in the ends they want to achieve and even the means to achieve them. (I suspect Glenn Beck as being one, as well as perhaps even the President.)

They were placed there by the enemy - that's what an agent provocateur is, by definition. Some of these "plants" have probably been active for decades, honing their messages to attract many. I define "the enemy" in this case as primarily those nations who are planning on attacking the US at some point (FSB/Spetsnaz from Russia, perhaps Chinese agents, etc), but would also widen my definition to include the obvious infiltrators from the New Age Movement and other similar sources. Whoever trained them and placed them (and ultimately they are being led by the father of lies himself - Satan), these agents are like "wolves among sheep", infiltrating political groups, churches and religious groups - wherever God's true followers are.

I thank God He turned my focus from those far-right, anti-NWO groups back to Him. They thrive on fear, and I do not serve a God who wants me to live in fear (except with a reverent fear of Him!)

But...there's a difference between fear and "be wise as serpents". I don't think it would be too paranoid or somehow "living in fear" to get into the habit of not trusting anyone that you don't know personally and can vouch for 100%. We need to prepare ourselves and our loved ones to join the worldwide, persecuted, underground church, who are already experiencing what we are about to experience.

This does NOT mean to arm ourselves, or to fight physically. It may mean to prepare to evade and escape, or it may mean to stand in place, in love and truth - however the Lord leads. At the beginning and end of each day, He is our help - not anything we do. Listen to Him and Him only. Learn to hear His voice.

There is no fear in the scriptural passage above, even though it says we will suffer "for a little while". On the contrary, there is much hope!

--Marko (not to be confused with Marco, who just started posting here - Welcome Marco!)
 
Is anyone here familiar with the Restore America Plan? I thought it was a scam, but apparently all 50 state governorns were served a warrant by the Provost Marshall yesterday... some are saying the FBI raids on the militias are related.
 
From AFP (03/30/10) . . .

SCIENTISTS DISCOVER HOW TO 'TURN OFF' BRAIN'S MORALITY CENTER

People's moral judgment can be altered by disrupting part of the brain, a study published Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences shows.

Researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) disrupted activity in the right temporo-parietal junction, or TPJ, which is above and behind the right ear and is usually highly active when we think about what we believe the outcome of a particular act will be.

The researchers disrupted the TPJ by inducing a current in the brain using a magnetic field applied to the scalp and got study participants to read a series of scenarios posing moral conundrums.

In one scenario, a person called Grace and her friend are taking a tour of a chemical plant when Grace stops at the coffee machine.

Grace's friend asks her to get her a coffee with sugar.

A container by the coffee machine is marked 'toxic' but contains plain old sugar -- but Grace doesn't know that.

She believes the white powder in the container is toxic but puts it in her friend's coffee anyway. Her friend is unharmed because the substance was sugar.

Participants in the study were asked to judge on a scale of one to seven, with one being "absolutely forbidden" and seven "absolutely permissible," if they thought what Grace and other protagonists in other scenarios did was morally acceptable.

Two experiments were conducted: during one, participants were asked to judge the scenarios' characters after having magnetic pulses sent to their TPJs for 25 minutes, and in the other they passed judgment while undergoing very short bursts of magnetic interference.

In both experiments, disrupting normal neural activity in the right TPJ switched off the part of people's moral judgment mechanism that looks at the protagonists' beliefs.

When the right TPJ was disrupted, participants were more likely to judge as morally permissible failed attempts to harm another person than were control participants whose right TPJs were not tinkered with.

"When activity in the right TPJ is disrupted, participants' moral judgments shift toward a 'no harm, no foul' mentality," even though the participants should have given characters like Grace a mark in the forbidden range because they believed their actions would cause harm, the study says.
 
To Steve:

PLEASE DON'T LEAVE. I, for one, want to hear what you have to say.

Constance
 
Steve,

Mighty nice of you to put words in my mouth. I never stated that i believe all denominations or forms of diversity were equal. I was simply stating that of all places, this is the one place that those differences of belief are understood and that to divide amongst those lines detracts from the efforts made here to expose the New Age all is one, unity in diversity ideals.

If you do not believe my work represents a possible Mark scenario that is your right. I am simply showing that there is a intent for world implementation of this technology and that it is directly connected to New Age/Sustainable Development ideals.

I think you have forgotten that prophecy tells us if possible even the very elect will be deceived by this beastly system. I think you have also forgotten what the consequences are for taking the mark. Now put these two together and you can see that scripture plainly states that some will be deceived. How could this happen? Because many Christians do not recognize false doctrines when they are presented with them, they do not recognize pantheism or panentheism when it is in their face. They do not recognize that the forms of the gospel being taught to them on sunday are New Age and self centered and not Christ centered.

Make NO MISTAKE, the reasons given for the massive implementation of this system are pantheistic New Age ideals of Sustainable Development. This is why I am warning of this system, it is not up to me to make others listen or pay attention.
 
Uh oh, the link to Rich's website isn't working!
 
Anon 1:22

Rich's blog is www.pineline.blogspot.com

The link on the front page is not working for me either, but it attempts to take you to prophecyproof.blogspot.com and not Rich's page.
 
JD,

I do not think it is possible to deceive the elect. I am assuming you are referring to Matt 24:24

"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect."

Notice the Word says IF possible. The whole context of the chapter is to warn people. My guess is those accepting the mark really never trusted in Christ.
 
Agie,

I actually agree with what you are saying. However there are many who proclaim to know Christ who do not. We are told many shall come in His name, and that there will be those who were luke warm who He will deny knowing. Many churches today proclaim a Jesus that is not in actuality our Messiah. These are the differentials I am pointing to, and the key point I was attempting to make.


These are the same people preaching a what has Jesus done for me lately or a material gospel. Or are mixing the gospel with New Thought principles or in many cases pantheistic New Age principles. These belief structures are far more the norm these days than fundamental beliefs. This is why I have a issue with others leveling judgement against anyone here for their beliefs or what congregation they attend as most denominations are in some form of error. Most here realize this, but some insist on laying judgement on a handfull of others instead of worrying about the weight of their own cross as we are told to.
 
I'm beginning to think that culture
shock is a good thing, since it's
been happening to me on a daily
basis for years now.
Shock. Isn't that the condition
that a person goes into, that makes
them oddly susceptable to suggestion,
and pursuasion, however ridiculous,
like the silly things that hypnotist
entertainers make people do ?

The global governance empire is
such that it is, for money, basically.
There is no "beyond money" for those
who worship it. That's why I think
money is the all time #1 idol.
Today there's money and everything
else.
Money needs to circulate,
not sit still. Money makes money.
Money goes to money. Money makes
the world go 'round.
No matter how rich Jacob Rothschild
is, he must still have to invest his
money somewhere, because it's
better off on the market, than in
a vault.
The global governance mob exists
for money and is getting digitized
and numbered because of money
and for the better flow of it.
We've been dumbed down in order
to make us all good consumers.
The love of money is the root of all evil.
 
JD,

Contrary to Steve's feelings, I have always found you to have both a humble and generous spirit towards the other posters here.

You are in no way a condescending "know it all."

Steve is way off base.
 
Anon 2:57

Thank you, but Steve judges me based on what little interaction he has had. He mistook a plea for civility, to be support of something that I do not. As I stated in my initial post, my friends know where I disagree with them, but they also know I do so with love and respect. Many of the posters here have had interaction with me outside of this blog through private conversation, some in email, some I have met personally or talked to over the phone. I am sure all will state that I am open about my beliefs, but I am certain all will repeat that I handle differences with respect. Steve may not realize that my relationship with many here extends beyond this blog, and that if I reply to someone or defend them it is due to a level of respect that they have earned from me or vice versa.
 
The 'god particle'???

http://www.cnn.com/2010
/TECH/science/03/30
/large.hadron.collider/index.html?
hpt=T2
 
Anon 4:28,

The Higgs Boson or "god particle" is according to CERN the particle that allows matter to stick together and make forms aside from single atoms. Their idea is to try to recreate the "big bang" in a controlled environment. In reading up on the theory you will find it is pretty much a scientific version of New Age pantheistic ideals that we are all part of a greater whole.
 
FYI . . .

"The Real Face of Jesus?" will be shown tonight, March 30th on the History Channel at 9:00 PM Eastern / 8:00 PM Central.
 
To JD, 1:15 p.m.

Excellent post, well said, and THANKS! We are ALL vulnerable to deception.

Constance
 
I just heard the information on the collider on channel 3 news. It was a little snippet, but I caught it just as I read it here.

Christians disagreeing? I think that's plagued the church right from the beginning. Peter and Paul certainly had their disagreements.

I don't think Christians should have anything to do with advocating violence or revolution. Jesus entered Jerusalem on the beasts He rode on because he wasn't planning on overthrowing the Roman Empire through a violent assault.

However, as long as the media lumps all Christians with these homegrown terrorists, we will be a target of eventual oppression. It conditions the masses in accepting a distorted view of the church.

All I can say is God's will be done.
 
more singular bees
from wikipedia

Mason bee is a common name for species of bees in the genus Osmia, of the family Megachilidae. They are named from their habit of making compartments of mud in their nests, which are made in hollow reeds or holes in wood made by wood boring insects.

Species of the genus include the orchard mason bee, Osmia lignaria, the blueberry bee, O. ribifloris, and the hornfaced bee, O. cornifrons. The former two are native to the Americas and the latter to Japan, although O. lignaria and O. cornifrons have been moved from their native ranges for commercial purposes. The Red mason bee, Osmia rufa, is found across the European continent .

Mason bees are increasingly cultivated to improve pollination for early spring fruit flowers. They are used sometimes as an alternative, but more often as an augmentation for European honey bees.

Unlike honey bees (Apis), they are solitary; every female is fertile and makes her own nest, and there are no worker bees for these species. Solitary bees produce neither honey nor beeswax. They are immune from acarine and Varroa mites, but have their own unique parasites, pests and diseases.

Most mason bees live in holes and can be attracted by drilling short holes in a block of wood. They are excellent spring season pollinators and, since they have no honey to defend, will only sting if squeezed or stepped on. As such, they make excellent garden "pets", since they both pollinate the plants and are safe for children and pets.

Osmia species are usually metallic green or blue, though many are blackish. Most have black ventral scopae which are difficult to notice unless laden with pollen. They have arolia between their claws unlike Megachile or Anthidium species. The number of Osmia species in North America is probably third in line after Andrena and Perdita.
 
Getting ready to do the interview on PROJECT MEGIDDO and the current Hutaree situation with Michigan attorney Peter Vellenga. In the meantime, we could all use a lighter moment on JD and Suzanne's material. Here is comic, but educational relief on Verchip/Positive ID

http://tinyurl.com/y8n6x4t

Laugh until you cry!

Constance
 
Hate to be impertinent and I'm as concerned about the bee pollination situation as the next person, BUT what's up with the Bee posting here? Am I missing a subtle point here?

Constance
 
Constance,

That was great! A little crude, but suprisingly accurate of how that company and others like it operate. I especially like how it inferred that Scott is full of it.
 
Did anyone see the Obama-Sarkozy news conference? Disgusting how these two are playing all kissy-nicey with each other.

Sarkozy just announced (a few hours ago) to the American people, that he joins Obama in condemning Israeli settlements.

And Obama praising Sarkozy on his Copenhagen Climate Summit efforts and how to move forward with that - it is coming fast now!
 
Tony,

I missed this, can you post a link to the story or relevant video?
 
Sorry, I could not find video, am at work now, but here is the link to actual transcript from press conference by Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/30/raw-data-transcript-obama-sarkozy-press-conference/
 
Constance,

Good show, Peter was a good choice for discussion on Project Megiddo and the subsequent following DHS reports.

Tony

Thanks for posting this. I will read through and leave some feedback on it.
 
Last summer I got stung a couple of times when I unknowingly mowed over a bee's nest in the ground. They weren't honey bees. They had built a massive hive. One followed me into the house (as I ran frantically; bad mistake) and stung my wife. The faster you move, the easier they can see you.
 
i was chased by a honeybee from my dads hive during a rainy day, i got away from it by falling down and sliding on the grass, i slid right under it and passed it up...lolol
that was a lucky fall

i think the bee postings are a good object lesson? as we are afraid of man made famines, and the singular bee represents hope that God will provide for his own in many wondrous ways.

it also takes my mind off of the idea that the feds could arrive with their 'party wagons" and take us away :D

Constance that video is just too funny, and i shall tell you like my kids tell me sometimes when i have done something "cool"
you rock~!
 
Constance you should have wrote...
I hate to Bee impertinent

lol :D
 
Constance,

Besides its accurate portrayal of the Positive ID microchip agenda, the "monkeyshines" video was a scream!!!
 
Tony,

THANK YOU for sharing this! EVERYONE should read this and weigh out what is being said here. Sarkozy and Obama are both speaking of the new economic order without any hint of trying to hide their meaning. I stated before that I believed recent statements by Sarkozy would lead to the externalization of previous agreements regarding economic integration between the US and EU. It appears I was right and they will be pushing forward in the near future with the new economic order.

Obama speaks heavily about financial reform, which I suspect is code for bringing the current system into compliance with EU standards as the US has already agreed to do through the TEC. There have been strong hints of this recently from the State Dept as well, now it appears Obama is about to bring it to public attention. It also appears that they will be pushing climate legislation jointly in the US and EU. It sounds as if now that the public is reeling from Healthcare, they intend to push many more projects through quickly before the public can compose itself. I can not stress enough, EVERYONE needs to read this and understand it.
 
Thanks Bobbi and JD for the info on Worldvision, I'll look into it a bit more.

Constance, your video was funny, crude, but funny.

Leana
 
Constance

I find the cartoon very offensive and not funny at all. This is not humor and would not expect this from a Christian women sending out a message like this..

God says be Holy as I am Holy...


This blog bring light to all ppl who are not aware of the Gov. intentions, so we don't weaken our faith by pointing... to garbage in garbage out..

I say this in Love hun
 
Aussie Girl @(*O*)@

let he who is without sin throw the first stone...

so you picked a blow up doll as part of your signature, yet want to tell Constance she is sinning by raunchy humor this one time... hmmm

how many times a day do you use that signature?
it is obscene.

just telling you in love dear ...
 
Anom 7:51

I am not defending myself here and as for the blow up doll as part of my signature as you you put it.

I love koala's been an Aussie, I leave it as that.

Constance I'm not sorry for my actions here. I stand by what I said. Thank you and God bless
 
Anonymous 7:51, You see something obscene in Aussies signature?

You reveal more about yourself than you know, get your mind out of the gutter!
 
Leana,

Here is some info on World Vision and microcredit. I hope you find this helpfull.

A Holistic Approach
Micro is one thread of World Vision's pattern
Small loans by themselves are not enough to end global poverty. But when these small loans are interwoven with other poverty-fighting efforts like clean water, health, and education, the result is a world-class approach to community development. That is what makes World Vision's Micro so unique and praised among community development experts.

A world-class approach
Sustainable access to life's basics
World Vision works to create self-sustaining solutions for the entire community:

Clean water keeps children and adults healthy
Nutritious food helps kids grow and thrive
Health care saves lives
Education lifts entire families out of poverty
Your loan helps create jobs and secure futures
Long-term commitment of 12-18 years
Ongoing funding sources such as child sponsorship and government grants ensure World Vision stays in a community for years, helping local leaders take ownership of the projects.

Local staff provide local solutions to poverty
World Vision has more than 30,000 staff in nearly 100 countries — and 95% work in their home regions.

Diverse funding increases your loan's impact
After being in a community for several years, World Vision's multiple threads of funding create an ever-strengthening, poverty-fighting infrastructure. Here's how that might look in any given community where World Vision works:

Your loan has started a small business and stimulated the economy
U.S. government grants support local health staff capacity development and advocacy for better health services to address HIV/AIDS
Medicines donated by a corporations stock the local health clinic
Churches from the U.S. have banded together to build clean water wells
Child sponsors help ensure schoolchildren have the books they need
Hope motivated by unconditional love
Spurred on by a desire to reflect God's love for all people, World Vision's reach extends to everyone, regardless of religion, race, ethnicity, or gender.

http://tinyurl.com/yz82hxp

Muhammad Yunus Lecture on ‘Abolishing Poverty - The Human Rights Priority’

Muhummad Yunus, 2006 Nobel Peace Prize Laureate and founder of the Grameen Bank, spoke to an audience of 1000 in Sydney recently on ‘Abolishing Poverty – The Human Rights Priority’.

During the lecture, one of only two given during his recent visit to Australia, Professor Yunus discusses the Grameen Bank’s microcredit scheme, and how providing tiny loans to the poor has lifted millions of people out of poverty.

Yunus also encourages the audience to consider the role of 'social business' in addressing many of our social issues.

The lecture was a collaboration between the Centre for Social Impact, Business for Millennium Development, World Vision and the Sydney Peace Prize.

http://tinyurl.com/yhy33qk

Here is a article from World Vision promoting Yunus and Grameen.

http://tinyurl.com/yzgcw3l

I can provide more and details about microcredit if you need. This should get you started though.
 
Her sig is something I have seen too many times used by the younger generation for a sexual expression.

Why be a trendy wendy with your sig?
Do you not know that it is offensive to many? Do I come to your country all self righteous using gestures that mean insults to Australians?

I am sorry that the older generation on this blog does not understand this, but the throwing rocks when living in a glass house rule applies here.
 
Anon 12:21

you can e mail me at steve0043@yahoo.com if you need to discuss this further. If I can be helpful to you, I'll be more than willing to talk. I do not believe that we can fall prey to the mark of the beast. I'm not saying we won't be subject to it. I think we will.

I didn't intend to post again but I couldn't ignore your question.

Steve
 
We are worried about two friends that are being recruited into a militia type group in Idaho. We do not know the name of the group but the recruiter is some type of evangelist named Lynn Fulmer. He is associated with Texe Marrs. One particular friend became heavily involved with Texe Marrs literature and videos and led another of our friends into it with the arrival of this Lynn Fulmer and his recruiting of them to go join his militia camp in Idaho.
We would greatly appreciate any information you could provide on Lynn Fulmer or any help you could provide us to disencourage our friends form succumbing to this.

Thanks,
Rick
( maclavian@yahoo.com )
 
Aussie Girl's signature is something I have seen the younger generation using as a sexual innuendo many times.

I am sorry that the older generation does not get this, but to me it is loud and clear.

Either you are wholly ignorant of the meaning behind such things, or you are a hypocrite.

I would suggest you change this signature if you are unaware about its "other" meaning.
Are you young as the "Girl" part of your signature indicates, then you have no place lecturing your elders for minor sins, I know for a fact that the best Christians slip up once in a while, cant you cut Constance a break? stop trolling her for every tiny thing, you do the devils work in wearing out the saints, no one is perfect save for God the father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, you might want to keep that in mind when you are riding on your high horse.
 
I would like to get feedback on this one, as it fits with the theme of this thread. This is a CNN Opinion piece with some points that immediately JUMP off the page at me.

Anti-government hate militias on the rise

Editor's note: John P. Avlon is a senior political columnist for The Daily Beast and author of the new book "Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe is Hijacking America."

New York (CNN) -- At least 10 death threats have been leveled against members of Congress since the health care vote. Windows at four district offices or county party headquarters have been shattered with bricks.

A gas line was severed at the home of the brother of one Democratic congressman from Virginia, and a man was arrested for making death threats against Republican Minority Whip Eric Cantor and his family.

And Monday, nine members of a Michigan-based anti-government militia group called the Hutaree were charged with conspiring to kill law enforcement officers.

These incidents may be following the drumbeat of incitement offered by a new breed of anti-government paramilitary organizations that have proliferated during the Obama presidency. Their members are self-styled patriots, armed and ready for a new American Revolution. They warn of martial law, seizure of guns, and imposition of global government, complete with forced internment camps and mass executions.

When love of country is mixed with fear of the government and hate for the president, that's when you become a Hatriot. We've confronted these forces before as a country. The record shows that the Hatriots are not part of a benign movement of patriots, but a dangerous strain of extremism with both a rap sheet and a body count.

In 2009, the Southern Poverty Law Center tracked a 300 percent increase in the number of militia groups operating in the United States -- from 42 to 127 such groups at the year's end.

One of these, the 3 Percenters, was co-founded by Mike Vanderboegh, who explicitly encouraged supporters to throw bricks as part of a post-health care vote protest: "If we break the windows of hundreds, thousands, of Democrat party headquarters across this country," he wrote on his blog, "we might just wake up enough of them to make defending ourselves at the muzzle of a rifle unnecessary." As a quote on the homepage of Vanderboegh's Web site warns, "All politics in this country now is just dress rehearsal for civil war."

Another new Hatriot group is the Oath Keepers, who claim to have some 3,000 dues-paying members, including current and former law enforcement officers, members of the military, and others who meet to reaffirm their oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. "The whole point of the Oath Keepers is to stop a dictatorship from ever happening here," its founder, Stewart Rhodes, told the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

cont.
 
cont.

Rhodes, a graduate of Yale Law School, former army paratrooper and former staff member for Congressman Ron Paul, says, "My focus is on the guys with the guns, because they can't do it without them. ... We say if the American people decide it's time for a revolution, we'll fight with you." Rhodes says his group is not a militia.

America has seen militarized radical groups in the past, playing off the same fears. Survivalist groups like the Minutemen began developing a "patriotic resistance" movement patterned after colonial militias in the early 1960s, doing wilderness military drills and hoarding weapons and ammunition in advance of what they said was a plan to "confiscate all private fire-arms by the end of 1965." This prompted President Kennedy to warn of "armed bands of civilian guerillas that are more likely to supply local vigilantes than national vigilance."

Radical and violent anti-government groups do not, of course, just reside on the far right. During the late 1960s, there were more than 1,000 shootings, arsons and bombings from left-wing radical groups. But the recession of the late 1970s saw the rise of Posse Comitatus groups which claimed there was a "criminal conspiracy to obstruct justice, disfranchise citizens and liquidate the Constitutional Republic of these United States."



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By the 1990s, America experienced the rise of the anti-government patriot militia movement, paramilitary groups fueled by anger at the Bill Clinton-led federal government after deaths at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, and Waco, Texas.

The destruction of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, was the culmination of years of escalation. In total, there were 845 acts of domestic terrorism from far-right and white supremacist groups between 1954 and 2004, including shootings, bombing and arson.

Today's Hatriots are potentially even more dangerous because of their ability to recruit and radicalize people via the Internet. They have proliferated in an environment where fear and hate are used to pump up hyperpartisanship -- including elected officials raising the specter of secession and talk radio hosts blurring the line between losing an election and living under tyranny.

There is an understandable impulse to dismiss the danger of the lone wingnut whose posts dot Hatriot Web sites. But in the last year, we have seen a half-dozen murders committed by unhinged individuals who drank deeply from Hatriot and anti-government conspiracy theory sites, including those implicated in the deaths of three Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, police officers and two Florida sheriff's deputies.

History shows us that it is most often the unhinged lone gunman who takes the hate as a call to misguided heroism -- the small but decisive step from being ready to die for a cause to being willing to kill for it.

http://tinyurl.com/ydfqo8g

So now groups like Oath Keepers who's only group statement is a promise to uphold their oaths to defend the Constitution of the United States are a hate group? Keep in mind these are police and military personell in this group. I know this is a opinion piece, but it is coming straight from CNN, any thoughts or comments?
 
JD,
Thanks! Again, it appears that even when you know people on the surface of an organization, things can go much deeper.

I appreciate your help there, it was kind of you to repost the info for me.

Leana
 
Though I am an American, try as I might I cannot see anything other than a cute little koala bear face and ears.

I'm a real goody-goody though, so that might account for my blindness!
 
My comment is that it's very clear to me that the S.P.L.C. and CNN are functioning as nothing more than propaganda operatives, for the overtly Marxist revolutionaries that have stolen our government on Nov. 4 of '08. Take off the rose colored glasses folks. We are watching them marginalize us in order to demonize us as we watch the evening news TODAY, not a week ago, not a month ago, TODAY. Do we have to smell the diesel fumes of a locomotive that's hauling the boxcar we're in before we honestly get it?
Anyone with a sober, functioning critical thinking mind should be able to read the information on this blog and JD's blog, then[if you have a strong stomach or a gallon of Maalox]watch the "public consumption news" a.k.a. the government's propaganda machine [and YES that includes Fox] and if you can't "smell the furnace" then please do yourself a favor ignor evreything here and by JD, eat a Twinkie and drink a glass of chocolate milk and o.d. your brain on Opra and Dr. Phil and be happy and "safe"
The time for nicey nice and softpeddling in order not to "ooofennnd" is over. These people mean business, they have "the pedal to the metal" and they are steering right at us.
They have stolen and controlled the language and terms, have manipulated them into weapons of tyranny, are now aiming them at us, and they are squeesing the trigger. If you have even a modicum of intellectually honesty, it should be as evident as a 60 lb. lobster hanging from your nose by its claw.

HK
 
HK--You took the thoughts right out of my head.
 
HK,

Thanks and a well written rant. From my view, the people (even some here) do not understand completely the language being used, or meaning of some of these agreements that have been levied against us. They do not completely understand what our leaders are talking about when they speak of sustainable development. They do not understand that true capitalism, true free markets, private property rights, and many other things we as Americans take for granted, under these agreements are seen as unsustainable ways of life. Or that our government agreed that this was the case as they signed us into some of the many agreements. They do not understand that the issues Obama is pushing that people are just begining to rally against were agreed to in principle nearly 20 years ago by our leaders then.

Just as they do not realize that the same leaders began preparing for our marginalization over a decade ago with papers such as Project Megiddo, or that there have been incremental steps taken toward this end spanning the past decade plus. I feel your frustration, but can understand why the public is lost when it comes to these issues. They have been treated like mushrooms, fed bull and kept in the dark. I have come to understand why some are less than receptive of my material, they do not truly understand the agreements, ideas, and principles at work. I now know I will have to tackle this issue and spoon feed things like the Earth Charter, Agenda 21, and Sustainable Development to folks. This will be a daunting task, but neccesary. If you or anyone else with a firm grasp of these issues can offer any help or further the conversation in this arena it would be appreciated. Beyond, I believe you can see the uphill battle (mental and spiritual not physical) ahead.
 
If you have even a modicum of intellectually honesty, it should be as evident as a 60 lb. lobster hanging from your nose by its claw.

I've been very busy of late so, I've only been skimming comments; however, this one prompted a hearty laugh as I try to envision said lobster...
 
THERE SHALL BE EARTHQUAKES . . .

From CNN News, 3-26-2010

"Philippines Earthquake 2010 a 6.1 Magnitude Quake Latest in Chain. Yesterday another earthquake shook the Philippine island country. Of course, earthquake news is hard from rare these days as it seems as if every time we turn around there’s another quake. The Philippines are located in the Pacific Rim, which has been the recipient of many earthquake during recent months. Japan, Hawaii, and Indonesia have all fallen victim to earthquakes, even if they didn’t cause immediate damage.

In addition to the Pacific Rim, Chile, Haiti, Turkey, and the United States have also recently had quakes. Chile and Haiti received the brunt of the force, as devastation has occurred in both those countries. The poor area of Port-au-Prince has been leveled in some places, and the Chile earthquake not only moved the earth off her axis but also did billions of dollars worth of damage to infrastructure.

Yesterday’s earthquake in the Philippines didn’t cause any structural damage – or at least none has been reported at this time. In addition, there haven’t been any casualties meaning that the strong quake didn’t cause as much damage as it could have. Many are very lucky that the quake wasn’t stronger . . ."

Constance
 
Anon 5.30

Thank you I have used this koala for yrs now and this is the first time anything has been said about it in such a derogatory way.

I'm not looking for points only honesty. It is a "koala Ascii" nothing more

Thank you so much Anon...

To think this is over a 3 min video that Constance ref.. to, is beyond me...

God bless you 12:54 I'm not intelligent as some. A wretched sinner who didn't deserve Jesus, who died on the cross and took our sin upon Himself That through Him gave us life.
 
Anon at 12:38 PM,

Did you arrive in the States as part of the 'Operation Paperclip' program? You should have left your ideas back in the Third Reich!

'Do I come to your country all self righteous using gestures that mean insults to Australians?'

LEAVE AUSSIE GIRL ALONE! SHE WAS RIGHT TO CORRECT CONSTANCE AND SHE DID SO OUT OF LOVE. YOU, HOWEVER, ARE NOTHING BUT A BULLY!
 
Anon@12:38

Thank you for so much...

God Bless your heart..

Christian ((((hugs)))) to..
less we forget
 
THERE SHALL BE EARTHQUAKES . . .

From CNN News, 3-26-2010

"Philippines Earthquake 2010 a 6.1 Magnitude Quake Latest in Chain. Yesterday another earthquake shook the Philippine island country. Of course, earthquake news is hard from rare these days as it seems as if every time we turn around there’s another quake. The Philippines are located in the Pacific Rim, which has been the recipient of many earthquake during recent months. Japan, Hawaii, and Indonesia have all fallen victim to earthquakes, even if they didn’t cause immediate damage.

In addition to the Pacific Rim, Chile, Haiti, Turkey, and the United States have also recently had quakes. Chile and Haiti received the brunt of the force, as devastation has occurred in both those countries. The poor area of Port-au-Prince has been leveled in some places, and the Chile earthquake not only moved the earth off her axis but also did billions of dollars worth of damage to infrastructure.

Yesterday’s earthquake in the Philippines didn’t cause any structural damage – or at least none has been reported at this time. In addition, there haven’t been any casualties meaning that the strong quake didn’t cause as much damage as it could have. Many are very lucky that the quake wasn’t stronger . . ."

Constance
 
Sarah Leslie will guest host MY PERSPECTIVE Thursday night. I will be in Indiana due to a death in my family (a beloved first cousin) and the gathering of my clan for that and Easter. Sarah will interview Pastor Ken Silva who specializes on analyzing and reporting on "THE EMERGING CHURCH."

www.themicroeffect.com
8 p.m. Eastern Time

Sarah's blogspot is http://www.herescope.blogspot.com/



CONSTANCE
 
To Aussie Girl and others:

If I offended anybody by the cartoon statement about VERCHIP / Positive ID, I apologize. I acknowledge the message, although accurate, was probably somewhat on the crude size, on the other hand, it will make the people marginalizing us start thinking about it. I also think it important that we not lose our sense of humor.

St. Paul referred to things as "it's dung to me." I'm sure we know the vernacular translation of same . Do we drop the Bible because of same.

I appreciate your perspective, Aussie Girl and the response of those defending me as well.

Constance
 
To Aussie Girl:

Don't be so hard on yourself. We are ALL 'wretched sinners' - who have been bathed in the blood of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross.

I can read between the lines of your posts and tell that you are a very sincere person and that your heart is in the right place.
 
Dear Constance

I love you as a sister in the Lord and thank you.. I will drop the Ascii koala not for been out of order. I don't want to a stumbling block and offend my brothers or sisters here.

To all as well in love thank you

God bless you

jenjen44/Jenny
 
JD,

In line with your research, I picked up article from one of Constance's sidebarlinks to OldthinkerNews.

http://www.forbes.com/2008/12/11/smart-cards-obama-tech-enter-cx_sm_1212smartcards.html

"Behavior control mechanism".

take care,
sarah
 
JD:

Perhaps you could direct folks to this site regarding your desire to help others understand Agenda 21, Sustainable Development, Earth Charter, etc.:

http://green-agenda.com/index.html
 
Hope this will bless you all at this time:


SAVING GRACE

Lord you are so wonderful
And deserve our love and praise
I cannot express just how I feel
When I think of your saving grace

To think of what you went through
That day upon the cross
And in the moments leading up to it
When soldiers spat and scoffed

And beat you with no mercy
Making sport and having fun
You said not a word in your defence
Even though you were God�s son

You bore it all out of your love
For the lost and dying souls
To give us a hope we can hold on to
For a future yet to unfold

It�s such a beautiful description Lord
Of what your grace can do
For no one�s exempt from your saving grace
But it�s a gift freely given from you

� By M.S.Lowndes
 
All right I am out of here too,
too many snipes at me at all times and no mercy.

For me to be called a nazi for defending Constance is way over the top.

As a parting thought you might want to remember the story of Noah, who when drunk was "discovered" naked, and what became of said son.

I a sorry Constance, it broke my heart to see you trolled I really tried.
 
Sarah,

Thanks for posting this, I had actually seen it and had sent it to some in my email list. I intended to post it here as well but something distracted me, thanks again.

Craig,

I am appreciative of the link. I will dig through and see what info is represented and how. I may link to it if I feel comfortable after looking through it.

Jen,

Thank you, you handled your disagreement with Constance with civility and took criticism with grace. Though I do not believe your sig was meant offensively, you still took others into consideration. You have perfectly demonstrated the points I was attempting to make before, thank you!
 
Craig,

In looking at the site you posted, a quote from Al Gore is presented that almost perfectly summarizes why people should truly understand this agenda.

"The climate crisis is not a political issue, it is a moral and
spiritual challenge to all of humanity. It is also our greatest
opportunity to lift Global Consciousness to a higher level."
- Al Gore,
Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech
 
JD:

I believe the site to be pretty sound. The guy seems to be quite knowledgable and straight up. Read "About the author" from the same site:

http://green-agenda.com/author.html

If nothing else, his quotes are quite good and he backs them up with proper citation.
 
Craig,

I have been looking through the site, the info is solid as I have seen much of it before with some exceptions. I have sent a email to the administrator asking permission for use of articles and material as it is a good resource, though many of the quotes I would prefer to be able to take from the original source. Thanks again for bringing this to my attention.
 
To Anon 9:25

If you was referring to me a been a troll, will not defend myself nor antagonize that statement but leave it to God in prayer
Let God be true and every man a lair.

I will not run away..

What is more, it's very sad that, I refer to not all the body of Christ, but those we offend only, we need to bless one another when differences comes our way... and pray for each other..as God would want us to...

God bless you
 
To Anonymous 9:25

PLEASE don't leave. I need all the encouragement here I can get!

Constance
 
Ditto to Jenny - please stay and post!

For the record, I try not to personalize too much. We all have opinions -- let's just try to express them respectfully as most of you have.

Constance
 
I have submitted a somewhat updated and modified version of this column to NewswithViews.com for publication. I think what was said here needs to reach a larger audience.

Sarah Leslie will guest host MY PERSPECTIVE internet radio tomorrow night. I hope you will all join her. Her guest is KEN SILVA and the topic is an update on EMERGENT CHURCH developments.

Constance
 
To TONY COX:

I know a Tony Cox. Are you by chance the same one whom I met in the early 90's?

Constance
 
JD

Thank you!

I know I have posted my koala there also on your site.

I will refrain the Ascii from now on not to cause any grievances or stumbling block to any of your readers on your blog loveeeeee.

In love Of our savior

Jenny

NEXT ..... lol
 
Constance/everyone

If I talk Aussie slang than watch out loveee I will send you all to the and Back of Bourke live with the boomers only having Bush Telegraph, Busters all day long and the bush tucker... grubs and more grubs, goanna and snake for the main course,then only finding shade under a stick...Just kidding cobber....

Really.. I don't use slang at all only endearment words like hun or loveeeeeee.

Thank you all again love in Jesus name... yesssss!!!!
 
To Constance

I am not sure if we met - I was in the Orlando, Fl in the early 90's ( with a short stint in South Jersey - Wilmington, DE area, which is where I am originally from).

I only discovered your blog recently as link posted on Bob Mitchell's blog Shofar Ministries.

Has anyone ever checked out Bob's site? He has some very insightful information, and shown me many times how a believer carries himself with class and dignity.
 
The TONY COX I once met was at that time from Colorado. You are another TONY COX and as such, WELCOME ABOARD!

Constance
 
Jen,

Your sig never offended me, no worries. I am 30 and had never heard of the blow up doll thing. I simply assumed it to be a koala, as you are a aussie. I think it gets forgotten that cultural forms of communication can vary from nation to nation, just look at the slang you used! lol I didn't understand 90% of it. I find myself running inot similar problems in my own nation, as I am from Southern Florida and living in Michigan, from the far south to the far north. If I called someone here in Mi a cracker they would take it offensively as it represents a racial connontation toward white people, if I refer to my friends in Fla as crackers it means something completely different and is a term of pride for where you are from having nothing to do with the color of ones skin.
 
Jenny,
You are a Pentecostal?
 
godwins law,
From Wikipedia,

Godwin's Law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies) is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990 which has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."

Whenever someone claims someone else is a nazi they automatically loose the debate, so many have used this tired old stick to beat others it has become cliche. How come the younger generation knows not to indulge in this cliche, and understands it is an admission of failure to make a valid point and only makes one look stupid?

There is the use of the sexually explicit image macro, when you use these in games you get banned. On forums you get banned.
I have seen so many fame monsters use these macros for attention and for sexual shock value. There is an old audience here, there is a lot of ignorance of what the kids are doing online.

Anyone not knowing about godwins law and image macros, is someone whom is missing knowledge of the internet, and not a reliable source for that kind of assessment.

There was a little girl,
Who had a little curl,
Right in the middle of her forehead.
When she was good,
She was very, very good,
But when she was bad, she was horrid.

Quit acting like you never understood this Jennifer, you are not perfect, in fact we all slip up sometimes, even the apostle Paul spoke of this. If you had the Spirit of God in you, you would have not taken a potshot at Constance's head the moment she slipped up. you would have understood the MINOR indiscretion as a slip up, and not acted "holier than thou" or like roses bloom out your butt.
 
Anonymous @ 4:33pm:

OK, I have to admit I'm very tired of your accusations levied at Jenny/Aussie Girl. Your continual attack belies your professed faith. Give it a rest already!

I showed my much younger - and wordly wise - coworker the image Aussie Girl used to use; and, she has never seen it before. She had no idea what it was but recognized the "@" as ears. When I told her what it supposedly meant she just rolled her eyes. When I told her what Aussie Girl meant by it she immediately saw it (she has an affinity for koala bears).

In addition, to ssy that the younger cannot rebuke an elder is unscriptural. Just read Paul's admonition to Timothy. Truth is truth; and, if Jenny's conviction was to speak the truth in love -- which I believe she did -- then so be it.

Enough already.
 
The posts here lately appear to be a breakthrough in understanding others. They don't change my values and the things I consider important. They do give me insights however.

All of us today believe we have come to a point in time where we have a final truth based on everything we have encountered. We all want to think that everyone knows what we know but the wrong conclusions were found. That's not how it is and if we want to change things, we need to broaden what we know. Otherwise we just argue based on limited information.

If you are living in Australia, do you think people in the US know your culture? Part of it might be shared, but not all. I read a book about a man who traveled the outback and so learned about the life lived there.

I'm reading a book about a man who lived as a cook with Krishanmurti in the '70s and realized that New Age life might be an escape from the frustrations of people who are overwhelmed with too much information that affects them emotionally. I can't live that life not matter how appealing because I have too much information that contradicts it. The book is a great escape because it ignores reality and concentrates on the simplicities and beauties of nature, but ignores moral values and the realities of political life.

We all need to step back and look at what compels those who oppose our views if we want to change things.

Dorothy
 
Anon 12:23

I'm a women of 53yrs, who loves the Lord very much. I gave my heart to Him in 1979 on Easter Sunday Jesus called me and I responded to that calling.

I think it grieves the Lord when situation like this happens and culture differences plays a part of it.

I ask you to seek God on this difference and let it pass over I will not back down what I believe is just a koala I respect your view..I can't do anything else to sway you to other wise only God can..I you saw me face to face you would see the person in front of you and thing differently of me and that applies to all..

Ppl use picture or signs to identify who we/they are.. like the fish "<*(((((><" for instance, is this not a identification who the earlier Christians were.

I have been coming to this site now for 3 yrs. I have posted maybe 3 times in all. I'm not educated enough like you. I take the chance in saying this not to put myself down only it's not my gift.

What I see here are wonderful, faithful and selfless educated ppl who gives, cares a great deal and has gumption on a dally basis.
Bravo Lord!!!


Anon
God's gift to me is love those even if they misunderstand you and even though, I don't know you from a bar of soap I look forward to meeting you one day soon.

JD

As for the comment about bush tucker etc... I was trying to make light of the situation and changing the mode around on here.

If you feel inclined you can look up by "Aussie slang words" in your browser it will tell the story of what I posted up..

Be aware some words might offend look up at own risk loveeeee.


A bit of fun loving here...

Would anyone like me to send you some Vegemite... place your hands up... \I/ lol

Serious now

Jesus said .... IT IS FINISHED
Amen!!!

God Bless you all richly in Grace
 
Craig

Thank you so much.. and to all..
 
Hutaree Suspected Former NATO Chief of Being the Antichrist (Javier Solana)See link below:

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2010/03/31/hutaree-suspected-former-nato-chief-of-being-the-antichrist.aspx
 
Our whole body lives around the weight of our ankles and as we stand upon the acorn of Truth we expect a proper equilibrium in life without the distractions of boisterous Masons on teeter-totters that lie and deceive the masses into global stupidity. For Jesus has already told US that both Parties are evil:

"Turn not to the RIGHT hand nor to the LEFT: remove thy foot from evil." - Proverbs 4:27 KJV

It amazes me how there are some very weak (and perhaps socialist) so-called Christians out there who would even dare to say. “We must not arm ourselves. God tells us not to protect ourselves - even if it’s an evil government. We can just run from our problems.” I have a question for ye: What if our government decided to impose the old monarchal custom of ‘Jus Primae Noctis’ - Law of First Night? The government would claim the right to sleep with your bride on the first night of your marriage. Now would any ‘Real Christian’ say, ‘Romans Chapter 13 – we must submit or be damned by God? I’ll answer that for you! NO. And again:

"If the spirit of the ruler rise up against thee, leave not thy place; for yielding pacifieth great offences." - Ecclesiastes 10:4 KJV

Too many ignorant people have yielded to an evil government for years and now their failure to do something “physically” about it has put the entire country in jeopardy! This is a gross sin of unbelievable consequence. For now “evil secret societies” have built up their power and most of these Militia’s that call themselves Christian are anything but Christian! Most Militias are run by Freemasons! What you are about to experience in America will be a Masonic-controlled revolution. And guess whom they will blame when the smoke clears? Yes. Christians. Here is a warning that nobody paid attention to years ago:

"A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?" - Jeremiah 5:30-33 KJV.

Remember. Pride stops to admire. Excellency proceeds forth. And Consistency drives THEM ALL to a place well deserved. Amen?

P.S. If it was, “Thou shalt not kill.” Instead of “Thou shalt not MURDER,” then we would all be dead because our Forefather’s would not be able to hunt food! I do believe a little Spiritual sense is in order here. Amen?
 
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