Wednesday, March 11, 2009

Does Global Financial Crisis=New International Economic Order Opportunity?

To All: Both sides of the Atlantic are obviously VERY BUSY!   I'll let this European Union Press Release do my writing work for me:

A closer and deeper strategic partnership with the USA
External relations - 25-02-2009 - 09:55
"A new transatlantic partnership is needed to strengthen ties between the EU and America now that Barack Obama has taken office, says the EP Foreign Affairs Committee. MEPs are calling for a new institutional architecture including a political council and a joint parliamentary committee.

"The "new transatlantic agenda" dating from 1995 should be replaced by a new transatlantic partnership agreement based on a new institutional architecture, argues the report by Francisco José Millán Mon (EPP-ED, ES) adopted by the committee on Tuesday.  The EU-US relationship is described in the report as "the most important strategic partnership" for the EU.
MEPs propose the creation of a Transatlantic Political Council as "a body for systematic high-level consultation and coordination in respect of foreign and security policy".  It would be chaired by the High Representative/Vice-President of the Commission on the EU side and by the Secretary of State on the US side, and would meet at least every three months.
A unified transatlantic market: meet the target date of 2015
The full potential of the Transatlantic Economic Council (TEC) should be used o overcome the existing obstacles to economic integration and to achieve a unified transatlantic market by 2015.  MEPs ask the European Commission, on the basis of the study authorised and financed by the European Parliament in its 2007 Budget, to draw up a detailed road map of existing obstacles which need to be removed with the aim of achieving that target date.
They highlight the role to be played by the TEC in transatlantic macro-economic cooperation and they call for closer coordination between European and American monetary institutions.
An EP-US Congress parliamentary committee

A joint parliamentary committee should replace the current Transatlantic Legislators' Dialogue, says the report. It should be compromised of Members of the European Parliament and the US Congress, and should meet twice yearly.
The joint parliamentary committee should be able to make proposals to the Economic and Political Councils and to the EU-US summits. Both its co-chairs should be invited to participate in the opening session of meetings of both Councils.  The committee should also have the right to conduct hearings with representatives of those Councils.
The report also recommends that EU-US summits take place twice a year "to provide the partnership with strategic direction and impetus".
CIA secret prisons, global issues
The U.S. administration is urged to close down any detention centres outside the United States, to put an end to the policy of extraordinary renditions and to ratify and accede to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.
MEPs believe the new partnership should also enable the two sides to address, with Russia, the various challenges, threats and opportunities of mutual concern, such as  disarmament and nuclear non-proliferation,
Lastly, it should permit better coordination of responses on other matters of joint interest such as promoting sustainable peace in the Middle East through the Quartet, the fight against terrorism and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goals, notably in Africa.

Procedure: Own-initiative -- Committee vote: 43 for, 1 against, 1 abstention -- Plenary vote: March II (Strasbourg)

Committee on Foreign Affairs
In the chair : Jacek SARYUSZ-WOLSKI (EPP-ED, PL)

I'm so sorry Herb Peters is not around to see this development.  Stay tuned!

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Consider this article posted on Fulfilled-prophecy about a potential rift in such a plan:

Some highlights of this article, that I thought were somewhat amusing:

"The US-European differences are casting a shadow over next month’s summit in London of leaders from the G20 group of advanced and emerging economies, an event to be attended by Barack Obama on his first visit to Europe as US president.

It also emerged that Gordon Brown, UK prime minister, was struggling to organise the summit. Britain’s most senior civil servant claimed it was hard to find anyone to speak to at the US Treasury. Sir Gus O’Donnell, cabinet secretary, blamed the “absolute madness” of the US system where a new administration had to hire new officials from scratch, leaving a decision-making vacuum.

“There is nobody there. You cannot believe how difficult it is,” he told a conference of civil servants.

I hope Gordon Brown realizes that the treasury department consists mainly of one guy (know-nothing Geitner).
The NWO is very very busy,
Israel is in trouble folks,and please remember, Jesus, Messiah will not come back as an american, he will be a jew, it can be no other way. Stand beside Israel no matter what.
CURRENT: Investment in Smart Grid Stimulates Economy, Creates Thousands of Jobs
Smart Grid technology
The Next Internet: The Internet Of Things, Smart Grids And Environmental Monitoring

The Central Nervous System for the Earth
Smart Grid: Government spying targets Rural America
Smart Grid is closely related to the National Animal Identification System (NAIS), and both programs are designed to spy on Americans. Even more disturbing than the purpose of these government-condoned intrusions into our lives is the fact that the Obama Administration feels that Smart Grid is so important that it had to be funded in the stimulus package—which is supposed to be used for emergencies only. What’s the emergency? Why does Smart Grid need to be implemented within 60 days of the bill passing? Here come the answers, and none of them are good.

What is Smart Grid?
Smart Grid is part of a global initiative to manage information, all information. This is not some dire fictional prediction; it exists right now, right here in the United States, and thanks to President Obama, the Secretary of the Treasury can lend the Western Area Power Administration (WAPA), a division of the Department of Energy, $3.25 billion to implement Smart Grid:

“(B) the Secretary shall, without further
appropriation and ‘without fiscal year limitation, loan to the Western Area Power Administration, on such terms as may be fixed by the Administrator and the Secretary, such sums (not to exceed, in the aggregate (including deferred interest),$3,250,000,000-in outstanding repayable balances at anyone time) as, in the judgment of the Administrator, are from time to time required for the purpose of [...] In carrying out the initiative, the Secretary shall provide financial support to smart grid demonstration projects in urban, suburban, tribal, and rural areas, including areas where electric system assets are controlled by nonprofit entities and areas where
electric system assets are controlled by investor- owned utilities.

Ostensibly, Smart Grid is about energy efficiency and climate change. This intelligent power grid gathers information about individual energy use via sensors embedded in the transmission lines and in homes and businesses. The government, via WAPA, will know what temperature you keep your home or business at. If you keep your domicile warmer or cooler than the temperature approved by the federal government, you pay more. To some, this is an acceptable arrangement, until they discover what else Smart Grid can do.

What’s in your closet?
According to IBM, one of the two corporations which will receive most of the money (the other is GE),

The world is becoming instrumented. By 2010, there will be a billion transistors per human, each one costing one ten-millionth of a cent.

The world is becoming interconnected. With a trillion networked things—cars, roadways, pipelines, appliances, pharmaceuticals and even livestock—the amount of information created by those interactions grows exponentially.

All things are becoming intelligent. Algorithms and powerful systems can analyze and turn those mountains of data into actual decisions and actions that make the world work better. Smarter.

Did you catch that? Smart Grid will allow the government to collect information about you, your habits, and possessions. All they need are a few sensors to know what is in your refrigerator; how long you spend in the bathroom; if you smoke in your home; if you drink alcohol in your home; and how many people are in your home or business at any one time. Science fiction? Don’t bet on it. IBM knows different.

And if the above statements aren’t enough to get you thinking, how about this:

Nanotechnology e-textiles for biomonitoring and wearable electronics-
If current research is an indicator, wearable electronics will go far beyond just very small electronic devices or wearable, flexible computers. Not only will these devices be embedded in textile substrates but an electronics device or system could ultimately become the fabric itself. Electronic textiles (e-textiles) will allow the design and production of a new generation of garments with distributed sensors and electronic functions. Such e-textiles will have the revolutionary ability to sense, act, store, emit, and move – think biomedical monitoring functions or new man-machine interfaces – while ideally leveraging an existing low-cost textile manufacturing infrastructure.

Here’s the scenario: you buy a pair of socks, using your credit or debit card (cash is already being discouraged). Because of Smart Grid, your house will be able to read the bar code on those socks as you bring them through the door and add them to a list it keeps of your clothes; size, price, origin, when worn, etc. The computer that controls your home’s thermostat and lights also controls your wardrobe, budget, social habits, and even your eating habits. The refrigerator reads the bar codes on your food. Someone with access to that information knows when you eat, what you eat, what you paid for it, and how long something has been in the fridge.
If you’re like me, and do a lot of canning, you’re probably thinking, “so what?” That’s what my initial thought was. It can’t read a bar code if there isn’t one. Hmmm. What if your home’s computer believed that based on how many people live in the home there’s not enough food being purchased? How long do you think it would take the electronic nanny to notify child protective services or other authorities?

Again, this isn’t science fiction. It’s happening right now in South Bend, Indiana, and Florida and California. Now that President Obama’s spending package has been pushed down our windpipes, effectively choking off any opposition, look for development of an electronic super nanny by Big Brother. This is change we can believe in? It’s change alright rural America, and it’s coming for you.according to Alan Keyes.

I had the pleasure of interviewing Dr. Keyes in the summer of 2008. He told me then that rural people should understand that there is a concerted effort to remove all control from rural areas and concentrate it in Washington D.C. After reading about the billions of dollars the White House has allocated to watching its rural citizens, I’d say he hit the nail on the head. We are the targets; the lonely little home on GE’s website might as well have a bull’s eye on the roof. Dr. Keyes told me the Illuminati who are running D.C. are worried about rural people because we are exposed to less media than our urban counterparts: we’re harder to control.

Apocalypse now
One of the largest components of Smart Grid is already being implemented by the USDA; it’s called the National Animal Identification System (NAIS) it requires farmers to implant a RFID tag into the body of all of their livestock–cows, pigs, goats, chickens, sheep, all livestock. The NAIS threatens to destroy small-scale family farms. If you’re not familiar with the NAIS, here are a couple of resources: Downsize DC, NAIS: Too little too late? and NAIS: Let’s do some fuzzy math. Coupled with Smart Grid, the NAIS strengthens the ability of Government officials to control rural Americans as completely as they control people in the cities.

Remember, President Obama believes implementing Smart Grid is urgent. He wants the program to expand quickly, with all of us on the thinking grid by 2011. All of us. Resistance is futile.
The issue is whether we will go to the North American Union / Amero first or bypass all of the regional currencies and "take advantage of this good crisis" to move us directly to a world structure and world currency.

The world's currencies are inflating in unison and will probably collapse in unison forcing the "need" for a world system.

I believe the other financial shoe will drop soon and leave no doubt in everyone's mind that a new system is essential to survive. People will accept almost anything (e.g., 911) to avoid severe disruption and uncertainty -- out of chaos order.

Dave in CA
For them to destroy the Constitution and in perticular the gun rights of America they must go to the North American Union, the problem there is the communists sitting at the back door, ie Venezualia, etc. why do you suppose that Russia is so involved now with chavez. Now he has dealing power.
I think it is obvious with the speed and also the willingness of the entire glogal structure to remove almost any limitation to implimentation of not only smart grid - which seems to focus back on the total control aspect - but also the aditional elements to include all, and I do mean all aspects of what was once considered functioning economies.
The echoing statements around the globe regarding the need for a global currency from the CFR, Trilats,Bilderberegers,Commitee of 300 - the list goes on are given to one mind set push for regional governments, IE the NAU to identify one of them.
To quote a brother who I will meet one day, (Perhaps) "the web is complete".
Again I say, fall will be a most interesting time for all of us.

Didn't want this to get "lost" in the previous thread, so posting it here too.

New Center Revives North America Agenda:
Presses Obama administration to advance continental integration-

"Arizona State University has created a new trilateral research center to advance the continuing globalist agenda to integrate the United States, Mexico and Canada into a North American configuration."
"The North American Center for Transborder Studies, or NACTS, makes clear that while North American integration advocates may have backed off promoting the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America as their vehicle to create a North American Union, the globalist effort to integrate North America economically and politically continues under different names."
"Prominent among members of the NACTS Board of Advisors is Robert A. Pastor, who for more than a decade has called for the creation of a North American Community, which would include a central bank to manage a new currency, the amero, to replace the dollar."

Link Here-

Or Here-

**Sidenote- Towards the bottom of this article this interesting reference caught my eye:
"The university media relations office told WND in a phone call that there is no current phone number for the Office of International Affairs. The number the university media relations gave WND as the phone number for the Center for North American Studies was answered as 'The Elders.' WND has reported that Pastor had begun working with The Elders, a conflict-resolution group of world figures, including Nelson Mandela and Jimmy Carter."

By His Grace,
Ok after reading WND about the elders, and referencing the Past Elders Stories on this Blog, I have to ask!!! Is this a coup? from the likes of Javier Solana, Kofi Anan and the Elders?????
I've been thinking a lot about how much our country has changed since I was a girl. Most of the laws now now on the books, were at one time unthinkable. What were formerly "expert opinions" "expert recommendations" and "voluntary measures", concerning what one MIGHT do to ensure personal safety, personal health, or personal security choices for yourself and your family, gradually became law.

"Smart Utility (energy) grids" + "Smart" appliances and "smart" thermostats make possible a two-way exchange between "Energy Controllers" and consumers. It's nothing new that utility companies have the capabilities to shut off water, gas, or electricity to a customer who doesn't pay their utility bill. What is changing is, with the NEW "smart" thermostats and appliances homeowners are being encouraged to install, the item you purchase and bring into your home has, as part of the manufacturing process, MULTIPLE new "smart" computer chips (RFID) embedded, allowing "things" to be not only "read" at the checkout counter but controlled and monitored by a central computer once they are in your home. There have been numerous "test" programs around the country between Utility controllers and "energy conscious" customer VOLUNTEERS who agree to install "smart" thermostats and/or "smart" appliances in their homes.
California has had some recent problems when consumers realized the thermostats could also be controlled by an outside source.
Constance, for what it's worth, I think Dr. Katherine Albrecht would be a valuable guest for a future radio program . She was the one who sounded the alarm about
Microchip-Induced Tumors back in 2006 and very recently I've heard her on the radio talking about the Smart Grid Technology. -Rudi


IBM's Patent Application, "Identification and tracking of persons using RFID-tagged items"

"Battle over Smart Meters in California"


"PowerCentsDC Smart Meter Pilot Program"

"IBM Smart Technology Page"
(Utilities, Telecommunications,
Healthcare, "Future of Food")
Internet of Things in 2020, A Roadmap for the Future

This came from this site:

"We have a clear vision- to create a world where every object -from jumbo jets to sewing needles- is linked to the Internet. Compelling as this vision is,it is only achievable if this system is adopted by everyone everywhere-Success will be nothing less than global adoption" Helen Duce

"EPoSS, the European Technology Platform on Smart Systems Integration, is an industry-driven policy initiative, defining R&D and innovation needs as well as policy requirements related to Smart Systems Integration and integrated Micro- and Nanosystems. EPoSS is contributing to the Lisbon Strategy, aiming at boosting economic growth, creating more and better jobs and ensuring sustainable prosperity in Europe."
Off from this topic- I saw the mention of Dr. Frank Buchman (whom you have made reference to) in the following work of W.Nee (of China) W. Nee was also (like you) a laborer in exposing the new age agenda in it's earlier years of conception. He suffered much persecution and was imprisoned for twenty years until his death but not before they cut out his tongue. I read much of his work in my early conversion to Christ and have only recently begun to make the connection to what he wrote about and what is going on today.

"Why do I dwell at some length on this? In Revelation 18 things are mentioned which shall come to pass in the last days. I indicated at the very beginning how man's soul will become a commodity in Babylon-that which can be sold and bought. But why is man's soul treated as a commodity? Because Satan and his puppet the Antichrist wish to use the human soul as an instrument for their activities at the end of this age. When Adam fell in the garden of Eden his power was immobilized. He had not lost this power altogether, only it was now buried within him. Ile had become flesh, and his flesh now enclosed tightly this marvelous power within it. Generation has succeeded generation with the result that this primordial ability of Adam has become a "latent" force in his descendants. It has turned to become a kind of "hidden" power. It is not lost to man, it is simply bound up by the flesh.

Today in each and every person who lives on earth lies this Adamic power, though it is confined in him and is not able to freely express itself. Yet such power is in every man's soul just as it was in Adam's soul at the beginning. Since today's soul is under siege by the flesh, this power is likewise confined by the flesh. The work of the devil nowadays is to stir up man's soul and to release this latent power within it as a deception for spiritual power. The reason for my mentioning these things is to warn ourselves of the special relationship between man's soul and Satan in the last days.

We have already seen how Adam possessed special supernatural ability, though in actuality what he had was not at all special or supernatural, however much it may appear that way to us today. Before his fall Adam could quite naturally exercise this ability with ease, since it was embodied in his soul. But after his fall, this power of his was interned by his body. Formerly the body was a help to Adam's powerful soul; now the soul had fallen, and his power was circumscribed by the shell of the flesh. Satan, however, attempts to break open this fleshly shell and to release the power dormant in man's soul in order to gain control over man. Many do not understand this strategy, being deceived into accepting it as of God." W.Nee

I would greatly encourage anyone researching the new age agenda to read of his work that exposes things in a light that makes so much sense today. Although some of what he has to say is very non traditional as relates to our neat western understanding of spirituality, I believe Nee to offer a very important facet of understanding. Nee goes one to say,

"What is the highest attainment in Christianity? That of complete union with God and total loss of self. In modern psychology there is also the so-called union of man with the invisible "mind" so as to cause him to lose his identity. This appears to be akin to Christianity, though in reality these two are far apart. The popular Dr. Frank Buchman (Oxford Group movement) advocated this kind of psychology. One of his teachings concerned meditation. He reckoned that meditation was all that was necessary for communication between man and God. He did not ask people to read the Bible at early morn; he only asked them to meditate and then to pray. The first thought which comesafter prayer, he proclaimed, is that thought which is given you by God. And so you must live through the day according to that thought. Who would ever think that this is but another type of silent sitting or abstract meditation? What is the effect of such meditation? You will be told that it will make you most peaceful and joyous. If you quietly direct your thought on whatever thing it may be for an hour, you too will get what is called peace and joy. Even if you meditate abstractly for one hour on no thought at all, you will still not fail to obtain this so-called peace and joy." W. Nee

Here-in we may understand some of the false teachings that have infiltrated our churches unawares.Most especially in the false churches such as the so called esoteric emmergent churches.

It is a short book well worth our time in waking us up.

To Joyce,

Somebody has emailed me who wishes to email you privately. If you will email me at, I'll forward that email to you so you two can communicate.

JC, Be careful with that "Adamic power" latent power stuff. It looks suspiciously like material I saw in Bill Britton "House of Prayer" Manifest Son of God / Sonship / "Neo pentecostal movement materials years ago. YOu have made some fine contributions to this site, but I am wary of that one. I will try to locate what I read back in 1983 that has the same "look and feel" -- but I will tell you that the MSOG was a not so subtle New Age reach out to the Pentecostal communities.

Dear Yvonne,

Ifi the "smart grid" is as you describe it, our resistance won't be "futile" as much as it is VITAL. There is no advantage either in the here or the hereafter to participation in such a biblically forbidden system.

STOP THE WORLD, I WANT TO GET OFF! (a popular comedy movie when I was a young woman!)

While I am not pentacostal myself, (though W. Nee apparently was) is there nothing that we may glean from his writings? I most heartily agree that we do need to be careful and I do appreciate your wisdom and concern for the flock, but my question is this...if Watchman Nee were living today, how might you advise him as to sharing with him the whole counsel of God, while still gaining some valuable insight that he may bring to the table as it pertains to the interpretations he had to share concering Gods word? I am not asking you to really answer that question here...just something to ponder as my own heart goes out to the heart of this man that I sincerely believe to be a child of God. How wonderful heaven will be when we will all have a fuller understanding into all of these things. Thank you again for your cautions--- and I agree-- anyone who reads these writings should indeed read with care while standing firm in the truth of God's word.
I could say so much about personal experiences and connections that I believe my family to have in this "New Age" to state it here in it's more mild title, and there have been too many connections to pass up what Watchman Nee seems to make so much sense of. I simply have no one to talk to about these matters as the church seems to be so out of touch with such things. Praise God for the counsel of His word and the care of the few that God has brought for support and comfort though we are careful not to be a burden to one another. And with that end note... I will simply say here and now, I have been a 95% observer here and am have been greatly encouraged and enlightened by the imformation I have gleaned here as it has been the means to opening the door of understanding my past (life growing up in a very unusual home) along with the enlightenment that is making sense of what is happening all around us in these very strange days. Thank you Constance and thank you all.
As far as W. Nee is concerned, I know that if there was enough of a concern that his views were to cause some to stumble into error, then I trust that God may be cautioning here for good reason and I will be content to wait until heaven to have the answers to these matters. After all, we do have His word and that is the most important thing. God Bless you Constance.
Sorry--I meant to sign off that as JC
Hi Constance,
I just sent you an email if you check your inbox.

Excellent post Rudi! You have fantastic links. The IBM Smart Technology Page is a must read.

The smart grid is just one part of the internet of things. It is very clear as you read the links you posted along with Yvonne and the others and myself are finding.

I agree "Katherine Albrecht would be a valuable guest for a future radio program." It looks like she has been researching these things for a while. I don’t know anything about her other then just looking at her site.

I have had a bad feeling about the smart grid and it is turning out to be "the internet of things". Obama has forced it through with the stimulus package. I think possibly all the areas he is “improving” are done with the “internet of things” in mind. I feel we may want to look into what exactly he is putting these funds to use for. If we see them going to “smart technologies” in any and all of these areas, we will have an answer to what the big plan is and how soon we are looking at it fruition.

Let me know what all of you think.

Obama unveils 21st Century New Deal, these are his main agendas.

Obama’s key initiatives – education, energy, health care

ENERGY: We will launch a massive effort to make public buildings more energy-efficient. (Smart grids?)

ROADS AND BRIDGES: We’ll invest your precious tax dollars in new and smarter ways (what does he mean by “smarter ways” ? could that be smart technologies in the new roadways?, I thought it was an odd word usage or very slick, just an idea…)

BROADBAND: renew our information superhighway, “every child should have the chance to get online, and they’ll get that chance when I’m president” (this would mean internet access for everyone including rural areas. Therefore the internet is everywhere)

ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS: Libraries, schools and medical records connected to the internet. (You would have to first have all medical data electronic before you could utilize the “internet of things” via chips etc…)

SCHOOLS: Launch the most sweeping effort to modernize and upgrade school buildings that this country has ever seen.” “We will repair broken schools, make them energy-efficient, and put new computers in our classrooms,” (smart grid and broadband and what else that we have never seen before?)

The pieces are coming together. As you read the marketing propaganda for smart technologies it sounds just like the new age they use all the same terms Interconnectedness, globalization all the oneness terms are used. They use all the “we have to work together for the betterment of all” slogans.

Well Obama said in his Inaugural address "We will restore science to its rightful place and wield technology's wonders to raise health care's quality and lower its costs.

We will harness the sun and the winds and the soil to fuel our cars and run our factories. And we will transform our schools and colleges and universities to meet the demands of a new age.”

That sentence bothered me. I felt there was something ominous when he said that and so I started looking into the things he is backing like the smart grid, broadband etc. I think now I have a better idea of what he really meant by those words.

I think we are seeing the beginning of a new age of interconnectedness in technology, governments and spirituality. Truly a “one world” may be emerging.

I know everyone most likely has read or listen to Obama’s speech in Germany, but I just looked at it again, in light of the internet of things.

Short version of talk in Germany

Video and transcript of whole talk in Germany.

Obama Global citizen ship…..(that is always a new age one world term)

Americans and Europeans alike will be required to do more - not less. Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice; it is the one way, the only way, to protect our common security and advance our common humanity.
(Required….not asked? One way and only way?

“The walls between races and tribes; natives and immigrants; Christian and Muslim and Jew cannot stand. These now are the walls we must tear down.” We know they have fallen before. After centuries of strife, the people of Europe have formed a Union of promise and prosperity.

Walls between religions can not stand. How will he do that? The new age has been working on that and they are making progress) (Europe has formed a Union, the EU, is he saying we need to join with it? Other sentences imply that.)
That is why Europe cannot turn inward. America has no better partner than Europe. Now is the time to build new bridges across the globe as strong as the one that bound us across the Atlantic. Now is the time to join together, through constant cooperation, strong institutions, shared sacrifice, and a global commitment to progress, to meet the challenges of the 21st century.

(bridges what kind? Join the EU, connect via “the internet of things” what does shared sacrifice mean sounds like global sharing of wealth)

“This is the moment we must help answer the call for a new dawn in the Middle East”
(New dawn always bothers me, red flags go up)

“This is the moment when we must come together to save this planet. Let us resolve that we will not leave our children a world where the oceans rise and famine spreads and terrible storms devastate our lands. Let us resolve that all nations - including my own - will act with the same seriousness of purpose as has your nation, and reduce the carbon we send into our atmosphere. This is the moment to give our children back their future. This is the moment to stand as one.”
(Global warming is the key to all these needs of change. Save the planet from man. It is always interesting how the wraths of God will be explained away by men. Again “stand as one”)

“With an eye toward the future, with resolve in our hearts, let us remember this history, and answer our destiny, and remake the world once again.”
(Remake it into what?)

I can see how if the “internet of things” is in the plan how he could say these kinds of goals. The “internet of things” seems to be the goal of the EU. He also makes it clear that these things he is talking about will be “required” that is a strong word to use. Tearing down the walls referring to religions, that could have a new age agenda meaning. I just find his wording on all these things very interesting. Again just thoughts to ponder. Let me know what you think.
I rememebr in 1997 having a conversation with a local professor who taught at a local college here in the metro Detroit area.
At that time, he and many other professors were tasked, by thier own accord, to complile a persons complete education, from kindergarten through high school. The plan was to assemble all the info and have this readily available on cd format.
Now step in with nano thechnology - specifically the nuero network aspect. If you saw the matrix - and the ability to download whatever info you wanted, that is exactly where ultimately it is headed. With the ability to implant and edit at will prior to its down load any info (not training but info) - thereby programming an inidividual 100%. Back then the out look was to use the memory chip (which was billed as being able to hold the library of congress) - which could be used, and they actaully have grown brain cells and initgrated them onto the chips sucessfully.
Nano tech is a far superior way to acheive the same result without any form of surgery - and with no burden to support schools, teachers and the educational infrastructure.


How do you see it being used?

After writing my last post I ran into this, IBM has a section on Obama's inaugural speach. They go over each area that he promised via smart technologies.


Funny how that worked out. I felt there was a connection and so did IBM, mostly likely they knew about it before his speach.

I thought I would verify the claim in the article regarding The Elders. The article is right. I went to the website for Center for North American Studies and found their published phone number at the bottom of the page. I called it and reached a woman’s voicemail (Eastern name that I can’t spell—Sumhar Uriah?) who identified herself as Program Officer for The Elders.

On another note, I was out of state last weekend and chatted with a woman about our dependence on technology particularly cell phones. She mentioned to me that she had read an item in a magazine in which the author criticized people for not using cell phones stating that they were rude for not being accessible to others. When she shared that with a co-worker, he agreed with the article. It reminded me of The World Commission on Global Consciousness and Spirituality ( with Barbara Marx Hubbard, Al Gore, Desmond Tutu—an Elder—Ashok Gangadean, Gorbachev, Dalai Lama, Laszlo, Muller, Chopra, et al). They state that to be separate is to be egotistical, and hateful. We must all become one—seems I’ve heard that tune before.

Hi Faith –
I know it can read like a bad science fiction novel, but here goes, my 2 cents.
First thing we do know is that the thought process of the over lords is that there are too many of us – they will need to cull the flock of “useless eaters”.
The chosen few who remain – or are genetically enhanced, to produce persons who lack some of the “flaws” that they feel reside in us now.
These would be given the ability to through the use of the nano neuro net to accelerate the learning process through the compilation of what is considered knowledge (absent of the Lord God Jesus Christ – of course).
This would eliminate the need for teaching; (other than gaining direct hands on experience) since whatever function they would be chosen for societies use would be pre- programmed into them., thereby creating individuals who have no knowledge or auxiliary info on anything except what they are directly exposed to and or programmed with. That portion can be controlled to the extent that if isolated enough – they may even think they are the only ones alive. The use could be endless – just like programming a computer.
But I digress; I do not think that there is enough time left in God’s timeline to accomplish this. We all see the pace things are progressing at and of course – they plan to win – so yes they are planning for the long haul – but undoubtedly their plans will be interrupted.

While I don't agree with Alex Jones in a number of areas, he definitely keeps his readers on the cutting edge of newsworthy stories.

This should be of great concern to all Americans. We seem to be moving closer and closer to a full blown Police State. Note the men mentioned are Congressmen, and a Pastor all who consider themselves Constitutionalist, apparently the new definition of a Terrorist.

Secret State Police Report: Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, Libertarians are Terrorists

Alex Jones has received a secret report distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) entitled “The Modern Militia Movement” and dated February 20, 2009. A footer on the document indicates it is “unclassified” but “law enforcement sensitive,” in other words not for public consumption. A copy of the report was sent to Jones by an anonymous Missouri police officer.

The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties.

“Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) provides a public safety partnership consisting of local, state and federal agencies, as well as the public sector and private entities that will collect, evaluate, analyze, and disseminate information and intelligence to the agencies tasked with Homeland Security responsibilities in a timely, effective, and secure manner,” explains the MIAC website. “MIAC is the mechanism to collect incident reports of suspicious activities to be evaluated and analyzed in an effort to identify potential trends or patterns of terrorist or criminal operations within the state of Missouri. MIAC will also function as a vehicle for two-way communication between federal, state and local law enforcement community within our region.”

MIAC is part of the federal “fusion” effort now underway around the country. “As of February 2009, there were 58 fusion centers around the country. The Department has deployed 31 officers as of December 2008 and plans to have 70 professionals deployed by the end of 2009. The Department has provided more than $254 million from FY 2004-2007 to state and local governments to support the centers,” explains the Department of Homeland Security on its website. Missouri is mentioned as a participant in this federal “intelligence” effort.

read full article here:
all this reminds me of the thousands of B movies put out in my movie days, that everyone was programed, all medical was done through the toilet, no one could have babies unless they were genetically authorized for that. most of society was on drugs of some kind, course all of them had one who escaped.
so does anyone remember the Tomorrow House program, special done on PBS many years ago, basically a house that did everything, from heating cooling to ordering groceries through your frig. I worked for the guy who invented the program many years ago in the 70's. Smart Grid is nearly exactly like it. He did mostly international at the time. don't know what happened to him though, tomorrow house web site says temp. closed.
your all gonna love this site
Smart economy, smart house, smart textiles, smart everything.
Opened in Brussels April 2008

I just heard that Obama has signed some legislation that will require a permit for planting a garden. Does anyone have any information on this?
This off of Drudge:
Nobel-prize winner backs world currency,25197,25173126-12377,00.html
Hi Valerie
This may be what you’re looking for. I received emails this past week alerting me to this bill which was introduced into the 111th Congress February 4, 2009. It seems to be a re-introduction of an earlier bill that never became law . (S. 3385 [110th] 2007-2008 FDA Food Safety Modernization Act)
Do a "Google" using the following in the search box. With the results you can also hit "NEWS" at the top for more information : H.R.875 Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009

I haven’t looked into this in depth, but there is a LOT of Internet chatter about what it could mean. One blogger drew attention to the bill as follows: (Thank you Setterman & Deanne)

“Under a heading described as protecting the public health and ensuring the safety of food it creates a "Food Safety Administration" within Health and Human Services. Oddly, it doesn't just add regulations to the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) which is also under HHS. And don't we have the USDA as well? The bill applies to all manner of "Food Establishments" and "Food Production Facilities" (note the following excerpt).”

(14) FOOD PRODUCTION FACILITY- The term ‘food production facility’ means any farm, ranch, orchard, vineyard, aquaculture facility, or confined animal-feeding operation.

Blog Source - I know nothing about this blogger other than what is written regarding the bill.


Hi Bella, Thank you also for your great input to the comments here.– You brought out some thought provoking points from Barack Obama‘s Berlin speech.
While CAMPAIGNING for the position of President of the United States Barack Obama doesn’t stop with the American people whose vote he needed to get elected, he uses the opportunity
CREATED in Berlin, to court the world. Talk about making use of
“smart” technology, crafty speech writers, and a spellbound audience! -Rudi
Dear All,
I've been looking into info about GEOSS (Global Earth Observation System of Systems) which was established in 2003 (according to the article). This Article from, states that GEO is the international dep't. The U.S. participates in GEO and GEOSS through IWGEO (International Working Group on Earth Observations) which heralds 15 Federal agencies that supply or use this shared data.
GEOSS claims that it's benefits are as follows: "Understanding the Earth system- weather, climate, oceans, atmosphere, water, land, geodynamics, natural resources, ecosystems, natural and human-induced hazards, and is crucial to enhancing human health, safety and welfare, alleviating human suffering including povery, protecting the global environment, reducing disaster losses, and achieving sustainable development."

"The Purpose of GEOSS is to achieve comprehensive, coordinated and sustained observations of the Earth system, in order to improve MONITORING (emphasis mine) of the state of the Earth, increasing understanding of Earth processes, and enhance prediction of the behavior of the Earth system."

"The benefits to society have been initially categorized into nine areas: Reducing loss of life and property from natural and human-induced disasters; Understanding environmental factors affecting human health and well being; Improving management of energy resources; Understanding, assessing, predicting, mitigating, and adapting to climate variability and change; Improving water resource management...; Improving weather information, forecasting and warning; Improving the management and protection of terrestrial, coastal and marine ecosystems; Supporting sustainable agriculture and combating desertification; Understanding, monitoring and conserving biodiversity."



I found the above information on GEOSS originally from researching this article on The Sound of Silence by
"...Infrasound technology is poised to make such nightmare scenarios a lot less likely. In the coming decade, the network of microphone arrays will be folded into an ambitious international initiative involving nearly 70 nations. Established in
early 2005, the Global Earth Observing System of Systems will integrate satellite, seismic, hydroacoustic, tidal, and infrasound sensors into an INTEGRATED PLANETARY MONITORING APPARATUS (emphasis mine)."


By His Grace,
Well it looks like a push for smart grid is on, I just heard a radio commercial advertising the benefits for the smart grid, I think it was in cooperation with IBM as well.

Seattle, be ready to get "smart"


Mar 9, 2009
"Congressional top dogs jump on Smart Grid bandwagon; new legislation coming soon? On the heels of the stimulus bill and its Smart Grid provision, we’re already seeing additional federal efforts to promote the Smart Grid. New legislation proposed by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev) gives federal regulators the authority to override states and mandate new transmission lines. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is likewise calling for expanded transmission and the development of a Smart Grid, calling it “essential to all that we do to promote renewables.”"

There are other articles like this on the main site:
Please refresh your browser to see the new relevant material I have added from the European Union relative to EU-USA cooperation with new asdministration.

45 percent of world's wealth destroyed: Blackstone CEO

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Private equity company Blackstone Group LP (BX.N) CEO Stephen Schwarzman said on Tuesday that up to 45 percent of the world's wealth has been destroyed by the global credit crisis.

"Between 40 and 45 percent of the world's wealth has been destroyed in little less than a year and a half," Schwarzman told an audience at the Japan Society. "This is absolutely unprecedented in our lifetime."

But the U.S. government is committed to the preservation of financial institutions, he said, and will do whatever it takes to restart the economy.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner plans to unfreeze credit markets through a new program that will combine public and private capital in a fund that would buy bank toxic assets of up to $1 trillion.

"In all likelihood, that will have the private sector buy troubled assets to clean the banks out in terms of providing leverage ... so that we can get more money back into the banking system," Schwarzman said.

He expects the private sector to end up making "some good money doing that," but added there were complex issues on how to price toxic assets.

He put part of the blame for the financial crisis to credit rating agencies.

"What's pretty clear is that, if you were looking for one culprit out of the many, many, many culprits, you have to point your finger at the rating agencies," he said.

Rating companies have been the focus of intense criticism for their role in granting top "AAA" ratings for complex bonds that later plummeted in value, resulting in subsequent rating cuts, in many cases to junk status.

"Once you bought into ... the Triple A paper and it turned out to be paper that was in many situations going to end up defaulting, then you really had the makings of a global problem," he said.

Schwarzman said problems were then exacerbated by mark-to- market accounting rules. Those rules ask banks and other financial institutions to price assets at a value related to how they would be sold in the open market.

Blackstone reported a quarterly loss in February after writing down the value of its portfolio and eliminated its fourth-quarter dividend.

Asked where was a good place to invest, Schwarzman said it made sense to buy cyclical names, which are less exposed to the economic cycles.

He said investors also may find value in debt products, including "senior layers of certain securitizations," where investors can see 15 percent to 20 percent returns, he said.

Geographically, he said there were "pockets of strength" in China, which is committed to getting to an 8 percent growth level, and in India, where the economy is slowing but banks are in good shape.

By Greg Evensen

March 5, 2009

I have just finished watching two of my favorite motion pictures, “The Patriot” with Mel Gibson and “Red Dawn.” Although produced in liberal Hollywood, they did capture—in our imaginations—at least, the view that some Americans, at the time when their country and countrymen needed them the most, responded courageously to tyranny and evil with personal determination and great sacrifice.

Collectively, we are brutally aware of the death of our once great Republic over the past few decades, slowly at first, and then with a swiftness that takes your breath away. We have seen a vital, productive, and unique culture raped, pillaged, and brutalized by the most traitorous group of government and business officials ever assembled. These blathering idiots have taken the nation from riches, glory, and moral leadership, to the depths of despair, poverty and lawlessness. Our nation has been used to kill and maim on a scale that deserves no justification or excuse. We continue to support evil regimes that keep the Mideast in turmoil and in suffering that knows no end. After generations of resisting communism, we have allowed a socialist foreign national to become president. We have worshipped this false god in the White House and allowed him and his collaborators to steal our destiny with worthless trillions issued by organized crime banking families at the private Federal Reserve.

As a result of Washington’s declaration of economic, political, cultural, and psychological war on the citizens of this nation, we all have to contemplate the words of our original Declaration of Independence, and what may have to be considered as our collective response to this outrageous and wholly unacceptable chain of events in our beloved land.

Let me be more specific. The events of the past six months have necessitated that we plan for immediate action against the maniacs running the government in Washington and a few of the states as well. As I see it, we have been forced to plan for any number of possibilities as a result of this theft of our Republic. The options are limited and fall into two categories of response.

The first is relatively peaceful and has some limited potential for success. It would include the reassertion of solid state sovereignty bills as have been introduced by at least 20 states (at this writing). Such a move would shut out the government’s attempts to force states to sign on to this socialist nonsense in the guise of “change” by comrade Obama. It would also recapture much lost ground in the battle to allow citizens and their respective states to plan for and pursue true Republic ideals. It would build a wall of separation from the power mad traitors in Washington that has not been present or workable since the early days of this nation. Lastly, it could diffuse any attempts by Washington to invade the states (remember 1861?) for daring to chart their own destiny. At that point, the criminal Obama, like the criminal Lincoln, would be facing an armed populace that would not be fighting over a contrived justification (black slavery), but would be in armed rebellion against the global elite’s well underway plan for national slavery.

However, I believe that failing the efforts of the several states to “fight the government” through 10th amendment legislation, the second alternative would meet the test of our original Declaration of Independence. In that regard, I believe that the time to “refresh the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants” has arrived. This reality is no longer in doubt. It is not the wild ranting of a few paranoid gun nuts, either. Millions of citizens, police officers and military troops have been converted to the fact that our nation has succumbed to decades of treason and a sell-out to international conspiracies by our own government that has brought us to this moment. The people of the United States of America did not go out looking for trouble. They did not conspire to resist a central government so cold and intimidating as to rival the Third Reich, the Kremlin, Beijing, or Tel Aviv. Quite the contrary, Americans have endured—as our Declaration stated, “a long train of abuses…” that have delivered us to the doorstep of rebellion once again.

When you are being victimized, bullied, forced into desperation by the acts of someone else, you are more than justified in resisting with all of your ability and with any weapon at your disposal for as long as it takes to win. Likewise, we must return this government to real benevolence and moral, legal authority under the constitution. It is as simple as that. We have the right, indeed the obligation to THROW OFF this government and to do so with no goal but that of absolute victory and vindication for true patriots who have faithfully stood guard over the founder’s precepts. Others among us will have to be dealt with. Choices will have to be made by many. Changes will be reinstituted that reflect our nation’s moral absolutes as enacted by Christian men and women who will honor the precepts of a Godly national heritage. We have not been a “nation under God” for many generations. To claim God’s blessings while we scorn His righteous standards is the ultimate hypocrisy. The Pledge and one nation “under God,” or money with “In God we trust,” are all relics of a past we no longer occupy. Until we drastically change our hearts and lives, let’s not further erode our credibility with God, with each other or a watching world.


Read this most carefully. I do NOT advocate armed REBELLION. I DO advocate armed self-defense of our lives, families, homes, properties, assets, and a truly constitutionally lawful nation. I advocate an uncompromising demand of the federal government to relinquish their immoral and unlawful plan to bankrupt, destroy and condemn this nation to living as a P.O.W. of the New World Order. I further advocate complete defiance in the face of usurpers masquerading as legislators, who have stolen and robbed our nation through force, (unread and undisclosed law) by a completely corrupt and dangerous federal bureaucracy. IF THE GOVERNMENT FAILS TO RESPOND OR DENIES OUR DEMANDS, THEN----IT IS TIME TO FIGHT!! It is way past time to take our Republic back!!

Whether you are part of a state militia, a minuteman type organization, a posse where called by courageous and constitutionally literate county sheriffs, or simply citizen soldiers who heed the call to defend the nation, you must answer the call to duty that has been sounded.

Texas may be the first battleground state in this second war for independence. The all-out war that has erupted there pitting the Mexican police, Mexican nationals, and border residents in the states against the most ruthless gang of drug pirates and thugs to ever assemble is underway.

The United States government has chosen to abandon its first obligation to the people, that is, the defense of the borders and security for its citizens. It is the chief reason government exists at all. The ignorant and failed president George W. Bush let our borders languish for eight long years. The sex pervert Bill Clinton did the same for eight more years. CFR insider and CIA stooge George H.W. Bush did no better. They all did it because it was a planned conspiracy by the Globalists to merge our North American nations after destroying them from within. And now we have the savior of the socialist world, Barack (foreign born, one-world advocate, baby killing, terrorist coddling, black radical following, CFR team leader) Obama selling out not only our nation, but our borders as well.

Since the lesbian witchcraft queen at the state department sold what was left of the USA to China, we have now been carefully positioned in the middle of the bull’s eye. Really, they have all made it much easier for us. As General Anthony McAuliffe said during WWII when cut off by the Germans. “Surrounded? Now I can fire in all directions at once.”

Who is the enemy? I’ll tell you again precisely who they are. It is any and every last person who advocates for one world rule. It is every last politician who has voted to bankrupt this nation “legally” through bailouts and sellouts across the board. It is also every last person in this country who has signed on to the support of socialism, or has profited from the financial ruin of hardworking citizens. It is the purveyor of drug smuggling, pornography, and the groups who justify lifestyle perversion. It is the thieving business owner and the pharmaceutical killers who have turned many of us into drug addicts. Further, it is the dumbed down public school teacher and corrupted lawyer, as well as the church leader who hasn’t opened a Bible or preached anything worthwhile in a decade.

Lastly, it is any of the rest of us who have been too cowardly to do anything except complain, lie to others, and deceive ourselves into believing that the government is the answer for everything. It is time to draw those battle lines deep in the heart and soul of every patriotic American who will answer the call to now end the tyranny that has choked us for decades.

So, you don’t like what I have said? Then you should know which side of the line you are on. Are you intellectually capable of understanding that we are in a state of war? Your job, your family, your home, your community, your nation and your ultimate destiny are on the line at this moment. Unless you are willing to change your attitudes, your allegiances, your lifestyle and your heart, you are a future casualty. You will leave the rest of us, but that will be your choice. To stay behind and expect the rest of us to do your work while you support this criminal regime is the ultimate betrayal of your fellow citizens.

To fight along side the Texans or other besieged Americans at the latest version of the Alamo is what it is all about. To take on the Global Elites and their ilk wherever they may be found is the most honorable thing we can do on behalf of our nation, at this appointed time in history.

The time is now. The objective is clear. The way is most difficult. The goal is honorable and necessary. The alternative is unthinkable. Are you ready? Then take on the full armor of God. Steady……..FREEDOM!

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Although it's not labeled New World Order or New Age, keep a daily eye on
for many instances showing how the world is changing. Pamela Geller covers news in this country as well as what the Muslims are doing worldwide. Muslims are being given a free ride in the media. Why? I would say to neutralize anything coming out of the Christian or Jewish community.
Hi again Bella - I thought this paper might be of interest to you. (and others)
Add it to your expanding file about the The Smart Grid. It's like a "Smart Grid 101" and was prepared for The U. S. Department of Energy by
Litos Strategic Communication under contract No. DE-AC26-04NT41817
The title is,

“The Smart Grid: An Introduction ”

There is additional information @
Wow Constance - After reading this new information you’ve posted and considering I don’t believe in coincidence, it certainly appears the global governance agenda is following a literal blueprint, right on schedule. Barack Obama holds an executive position, but he is obviously not the one
calling the shots. I’m not sure yet who is, but these things don’t just happen, without someone
in charge giving direction. In my view, the following suggests something beyond mere U.S. political strategy, especially in light of what you've just posted.

1.)The choice of city, Berlin,

2.)The content and title of
Barack Obama’s July 24,2008
“A World That Stands as One"

3.)The entire theme of the Obama
pre-election campaign: CHANGE

4.)Timing of the near collapse
of the world financial systems

5.)Plus this Jan 12, 2009 letter
from Frank-Walter Steinmeier to
now President Barack Obama,
calling for a
“New Transalantic Agenda”

Please read the text of this
letter below, Steinmeier was more than a little pleased with Obama's
Berlin Speech

Video & Text of July 24th, 2008 Speech in Berlin


If at all possible I would get Dr. Katherine Albrecht on your show! She is an expert on surveillance and the topics I have been researching recently. Thanks to Rudi, I started checking into her! She was interviewed by Dr. Monteith who has the show prior to yours. He interviewed her on a 3-11-09. I just found that out and just finished listening to it online.

She has excellent data. She explains a bit about the smart grid and a great deal about Google. In this interview I don’t remember if she named the “internet of things”, yet I know she talked about the general idea. She is saying the same things as I have been saying so for me she is validating my research! She is a head of me, but I had already found most of what she said on this show. So if you can get her on your show she very well may be better for you then me. But if you can not, I feel more confident that what I have been finding is correct for she has seen the same things I have. So I would be willing to assist you if you can not get her.

I have been investigating new age movement of decades and just more recently I have been researching areas that I had a gut feeling were part of the big picture of Lucifer plan: Google, smart grid, RDIF, internet of things. I noticed Oprah and all the occultists backing Obama including Google. Google was the technology behind Obama’s campaign and the CEO of the parent company of NBC and GE has joined Obama’s advisory board. When I saw those pieces I started putting them together.

Google intends to be the ones that control the medical records, smart grid. The collect you IP address and and everything you search for, therefore they keep a record of you. To be use how ever they decided when ever they decide to use it.

I have warned people of Google and the many scary things it has been doing with the pictures of your homes they take on street views. (looked up your house if you have not yet, mine was nicely and clearly pictured, you could see the makes and models of my cars, my yard what kind of flowers I planted, even see a bit into my windows!) in some cases you can drive down streets and do 360 degrees and see all the houses as you drive., They have the satellite images of you homes, but the thing that hit me the hardest was the flu tracking that they give the CDC that was my red flag with them. What is funny is that is what set off Katherine Albrecht. She found that out and that was her final straw with Google. I think it was then she started digging like I have been regarding what they are into and their plans. If someone else independent of me has come up with the exact conclusions I have then I think we have hit upon a very scary truth.

She says the only search site that does not hold onto you IP address is .She is helping them she verifies they are safe. She says it is about 95% as good as Google. They do not track anything and they erase all of you information within seconds.

She said Google has now planting cookies that is even if you do not use Google they still can track you, so it is best to get out of it as soon as you can. name right now is it is changing to

She feels that Google will become part of the government. Because they will be deemed a security risk, for they even have better satellites then our government. So any data held by Google the government will have in the future if they are not all ready giving it to them.

She says to pull out of Google completely. Never search on their site and if you never enter Google via the email again, they will wipe out all your data after 9 months. Of course they can still mine for it, but it will be much harder. (by the way Google is eating up and is in partnership with other emails and search engines.)

Google founders want unification and say that they will become the “mind of God”. She explains that the words are interesting that we use to describe them “Net” a round the globe, or “web” like a spider. We are trapped in the web or net.

The founders are very clear is for Google goal is to become a consciousness and meld with our minds. They refer to it as a “Universal Consciousness” and potentially could go as far as an implant in our brains. The terms and ideas are very occult. That I had not found this data yet, but will be digging up those kinds of quotes from the founders of Google.

Right now there is really no safe email unless you have your own server (that is what I have found out too). She is checking into this area to see if there are any safe ones out there.

There is much more excellent data. I am only hitting the tip of the ice berg, please listen to her on the flowing link:

Look for the 4:00: Dr. Katherine Albrecht on the right hand side part way down. You can listen to a very good interview.

Her site is

Sorry for the long post but I am very excited!

Hi JC: Here's a link about Watchman Nee that might help you. He was influenced by mysticism.
Constance: Read your new blog piece and the word "sustainable" stuck out. That word is being used quite a bit by NWO plans; such as sustainable development, which we are being confronted with here in Oregon. They are telling us what we can do and what we cannot do on our property; if you can feature it. We have not signed the paper, which is not due unto 2010 and we don't plan to sign it.

Africa seems to be of great interest also to the EU. Africa has many resources that the EU wants, such as oil, diamonds, and other untapped riches. They have been concentrating on Africa for a long time now. But it's in a devious way, looking humanitarian but really having their eyes on the resources. I did a study on Africa, and the riches there are more than all the countries in the world put together. The U.N. has great interest in Africa also and has for years.

What do you think about these two things? I'd like your opinion.
Great posts again! Thanks for the links! You are getting great data!

I feel you are very correct there is no coincidences. This is very well thought out. I think Obama’s election was bought and paid for by the powers that be. He was a nobody, no real history. Yet even had written books about himself, prior to the campaigning for the presidency. If Mr. Fife was correct the communists knew of him back in the 90’s.

I have watched for years to see things that proved there was one big conspiracy, I believed totally there was, but the "proof" was limited. Now it is to the point of how could you not see it. But the case they make is it is just the natural course of things, that there is no conspiracy....but some how it all just happened to fall in line with the beliefs of the conspircy....hummm what are the chances of that!

Lucifer has a Plan and they are following it. We truly are living in the last days, if there ever was a doubt I think we have now passed that point.
Rabbi Marc Scheneir wrote a column about the interfaith dialogue in today's Jerusalem Post, in response to the fact that everything is "kosher" now with the Pope and the Jews. The controversy about the shoah-denier Williamson has been resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

I am not a prophetess, but several blogs back I did say that this incident would be used to promote more of the same interfaith dialogue, just like the Regensberg situation when the Muslims were enraged because Mohamed had been insulted.

All of this is in preparation for the Pope's visit, which is not political mind you, but religious, to Israel. I want to suggest that is impossible for the Pope to visit Israel and it NOT be political, but that's a side subject for the moment. We should be paying careful attention to this trip. There will be messages sent without doubt.

Now let's see who this Rabbi Marc Schneier is:

In this article he says there are painful and difficult days ahead, but I guess those fears were quickly put to rest:

A little bit more about him:

Now let's see who he is related to...All of you remember the Pope's famous visit to New York's Park East Synagogue:

What is very interesting about bringing up this link is in the corner next to the www.http// is the famous all-seeing Alliance of Civilizations sign, which of course Rabbi Arthur Schneier, the father is a member of...a member of the High Level Group.

We should be watching these connections between the Schneiers and the Vatican, relative to this whole interfaith dialogue and the pending trip to Jerusalem.

Very close to this trip is the Obama/AoC/Turkey trip. One of the other interesting things in the media was countries pulling out of the Durban II conference because of fears of racism against Israel, which happened at the last conference.

There is this whole problem of what "dialogue" should look like. Should it be censored.? Should we just avoid it if it's too difficult?

It looks like Rabbi Marc Schneier is a chip off the old block:

Just one more article on this subject of interreligious dialogue and Rabbi Marc Schneier:

I want to highlight one quote from the article:

"mam Abu Namous also jarred Jewish sensibilities in his first public dialogue with Rabbi Schneier by declaring that a one-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was preferable to a two-state one.
By comparison, the mosque’s present interim imam, Mohammed Shamsi Ali, declared in a dialogue with Rabbi Schneier at the New York Synagogue earlier this month that it “cannot be accepted to deny the existence of Israel” or to deny the Holocaust. Appearing last week at the Jewish Theological Seminary, Imam Ali delivered a special sermon during Mincha services in which he urged Jews and Muslims to revisit “problematic” passages in the Koran and Torah. Those passages buttress bellicose stances against other religions by understanding them as having been written in earlier times, and not necessarily relevant to today’s world."

You see the approach of interfaith dialogue is to slowly pull down the truth. How is this done? Well we say, what Torah says about the Land of Israel was 3500 years ago and cannot be applied now. Just as we say what Islam says about killing Jews and Christians was only for then, not for now.

What do end up with? Well we end up with the "fundamentalists" of the Bible both Tanach and Apostolic writings, the Jews who believe in Torah and Talmud, and the Muslims who believe in the Quran and the hadiths ( sayings of Mohamed) either is the tolerant camp or the fundamentalist camp.

Those who are in the tolerant camp will relax some of their ideas on their faith's sacred writings for the sake of getting along which will result in a kind of unity, that is not true unity, but reminds me of iron and clay, which do not hold together.

The others, the fundamentalists, the troublemakers, the ones who will not compromise will be labeled extremists, and will not fit very well into the Alliance of Civilizations plan for our lives..Now everyone can agree that suicide bombing is dangerous and not a good way to handle differences, but it will not stop there. All who have convictions will be accused of being "extremists" or troublemakers because they hold to their convictions.

One more quote from the article:

"He added, “We also should remember that there have been bright times in our relationship as well, such as the cooperation between Muslims and Jews in Andalusia during the Middle Ages.” "

This was a time when mysticism flourished in Andalousia, but ultimately the Jews ended up fleeing, converting to Catholicism or being killed when the Inquisition came. Many of these Jews went to North Africa, only to find themselves subjected to teh dhimmi in Islam, where they were not exactly free to practice their faith either.

Albert Pike said the last world war would be religious in nature, but this war would bring about the New Word Order. As I mentioned in earlier posts, the tension between the 3 monotheistic, "Abrahamic" religions is being used, along with the battle over Jerusalem to usher in the NWO, which will not be a utopia by any means.

We are being sold a bill of goods, that this kinder, gentler way is going to bring world peace, but we know true shalom, true wholeness is only possible under the reign of Yeshua the Messiah.

It is not a religion that will bring peace, it is the Messiah Himself who is the Prince of Peace and who
calls us out of darkness into a relationship with Him, not into a religion. The Kingdom will restore the conditions of the garden. Right now, in this fallen world we are still suffering the consequences of the Fall, which makes true peace impossible.

Without having our new identities in Messiah, we will be doomed to failure and worse. God told Israel not to worship the golden calf. This interfaith dialogue and peace talks and econcomic order is a big golden calf. It will NOT save us. Only Yeshua and Yeshua alone will.

Purim was this week, and Mordecai said to Esther:

Esth. 4:14 “For if you remain silent at this time, relief and deliverance will arise for the Jews from another place and you and your father’s house will perish. And who knows whether you have not attained royalty for such a time as this?”

The only message that will help us today is to be in Yeshua.. This is the hope we can offer the world in the difficult days.. not religion, not politics, not dialogue, but the living Word, the Living Water, the Rock of our salvation.


The Clinton Global Initiative's efforts to intervene in religious crisis:

Three members of the AoC's high level group including Rabbi Schneier.

Madeleine Albright was responsible for giving Prince AlWaleed bin Talal access to Georgetown and Harvard with his respective gifts of 10 million dollars to open Islamic study centers in keeping with AoC's goals.

Jean Manas was in this group too, which I found interesting because she appears to be an investment banker who has gone to work for Deutshe Bank in mergers and acquisitions.. Would that be the takeover of US assets? I don't know but we might want to do some more research on her.. She shows up in who's who of think tanks:

and then there is Toni Verstandig:

Toni is also part of the Aspen Institute:

One of the partners of Aspen Institute in this endeavor is:

of course 9/11 created the impetus for this:

one of their partners is Unity Productions which is consistent with AoC's desire to use media to promote their agenda:

and they produced this:

and this:

This is a MUST WATCH and we will understand the agenda of the interreligious dialogue. It talks about Spain in the "golden era" :

Don't forget to check out the links from their site:
One more from that site:
and designed for teachers to bring propaganda to their classes:

AoC agenda at work..Remember the links back to Clinton and the other organizations like Aspen Institute, etc.
closing the noose: Last week at my regular doctor's appointment I was told to bring in all my pill bottles so they could all be recorded in the new computerized (no-paper) system. When I got there all the employees were carrying around little "computer" books on which they wrote with a special writing instrument. All records are being computerized. The reason being given is there are going green/saving paper. I opined that it was to make it easier to hook up with the government computers when the government forces everyone into The System. They denied it. I was told they were complying with a new Federal Law. I asked the name and/or number of that law. They told me they did not know it. We will all be forced into The System.
Go read this:
The man is writing about his personal experience with THE INTERNET OF THINGS and controlling in his home.
Re: Watchman Nee. He was exposed long ago. Steer clear.
Please do not foget in the mix of all this the recent "marraige" between Verichip and Microsfot - concerning medical records - and now Wal Mart has joined in the electronic medical record effort-

Shootings in Germany, Alabama Underscore Violent Side Effects of Psychiatric Medications

[1] NaturalNews (3/12/09)

A 17-year-old former student opened fire near Stuttgart, Germany, killing at least 16 people. The teenager was a former student at a Winnenden school, where he initiated the shooting spree. Three teachers and at least 10 students were killed by his actions.

The media is reporting that Tim Kretschmer, “walked calmly into three classrooms and opened fire, without saying a word.” Following the shooting at his school, Tim ran to a psychiatric clinic school and killed an employee there. (Did he have a link to the psychiatric staff members there?)

A day earlier, a man in his mid-30’s opened fire in Alabama, killing ten people before he was shot and killed by law enforcement.

It’s the [2] medication, not the firearms

In seeing the news reports on these events, the ignorant masses quite predictably leaped to the conclusion that “guns are the problem.” Apparently in their minds, these shootings were carried out solely by guns and have nothing whatsoever to do with the people pulling the triggers. But the20truth is far more insidious: It is the [3] psychiatric medications that are causing violent shooting sprees in [4] America, Germany and elsewhere.
[5]These dangerous psychiatric [6] medications drastically imbalance brain chemistry, causing [7] teens (and adults) to feel distanced from reality, as if they are walking through a video game. In fact, this was exactly how the Columbine school shooters described their experience of carrying out the infamous shootings in Colorado.

The report that Germany’s shooter, Tim Kretschmer, “walked calmly into three classrooms and opened fire, without saying a word” is a strong indication that he was almost certainly suffering the brain-altering [8] side effects of psychiatric medication.

The [9] pharmaceutical companies, of course, incessantly attempt to deny the reality that their drugs cause school shootings. In fact, their [10] psychiatric drugs actually cause the very same things they often claim to treat! Antidepressants, for example, can cause depression, [11] suicidal thoughts and violent behavior. They also directly promote weight gain, obesity and diabetes, and those [12] health conditions can then lead to more [13] depression, requiring more “treatment” with medication.

It’s all a gigantic scam. These [14] drug companies are just selling patented chemicals for profit while destroying the lives of human beings in the process. In my view, Big Pharma is responsible for the deaths of all those killed by drug-induced shooting sprees. Read the jaw-dropping collection of quotes (below) from authors on this issue to learn even more.

Not surprisingly, the mainstream media remains virtually silent on this issue, not even mentioning any link between psychiatric drugs and [15] school shootings. The media, you see, is largely funded by drug company advertisements.

A film you must see

A truly remarkable documentary film on the history of psychiatric medication is now available through CCHR (the Citizens’ Commission on Human Rights). Watch it here: [16]

(NOTE: The above link is a MUST SEE film!!!)
Headlines on today's Drudge Report (3/13/09)

"China 'worried' about safety of American Treasuries
'We have lent a huge amount of money to the U.S' . . .
asks for guarantees"
Anonymous 7:11 A.M.,and Constance

I never expect to hear perfection from anyone's sermon.

I guess if Watchman Nee had grown up in the land of baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and Chevrolet, he would have had our better discernment than someone raised in the "land of the dragon"?

How will we bear up should we have our tongue cut out, and be put to death for our defence of the gospel?

Its easy to judge from our comfy armchairs.
All old news Joyce. But thanks for the repeat. Do you check out old posts for your new ones?
To OMOS, SV, Yvonne & All,

I don't want Old Man of the Ski's comment about SSSS to be lost either - especially insofar as it may relate to what Yvonne said about Smart Grid.

Smart Grid is designed to help the "powers that be" find out about what you already think.

SSSS ("synthetic telepathy") is designed to help the "powers that be" TELL you what to think if they don't like it!

Old Man of the Ski said:

I checked the patents...

Stocklin applied for a patent for his inventinon- "simulated hearing using microwave transmissions" back in 1983. He did not invent or patent the SSSS system.

SSSS was invented and patented by Dr. Oliver Lowery nearly ten years later.

Just think, soon we'll all hear the voice of "god" playing continuously through our digital televisions and computers. No more arguments over religion! Everything will become crystal clear. And don't think you can avoid the demon chatter by just unplugging and going off grid, because all those patriots dug into a bunker in Montana, as well as the bushmen out in the kalihari, will likely still be "touched" through HAARP or other related technologies.

The Spider sure knows how to spin one helluva web.

SV commented:

It seems to be quite an intertwined web of influence and deceit.
How interesting that OMOTS referred to the SSSS as "the 'web' is complete".

To which I replied:

Regarding SSSS (a.k.a."synthetic telepathy")mentioned by OMOTS: this is certainly a creepy development.

If these articles have already been posted by OMOTS or anyone else, I do indeed apologize.



Surprise, surprise!

Looks like the Insititute of Noetic Sciences' fingerprints are all over this "web."
From, The Schwarbein Priciple:

Another temporary solution to the low serotonin epidemic is to take drugs like Prozac and Zoloft. These drugs are serotonin-reuptake inhibitors, which means they inhibit the disposal of serotonin, thus leading to longer-lasting normal levels of serotonin in the brain. The demands of a low-serotonin society have caused tremendous sales of these drugs in recent years.

However, such drugs are not the panacea. There is no medical diagnosis of a low-Prozac or a low Zoloft state. The medical diagnosis is a low serotonin state. Some people feel better when they take these drugs because their serotonin levels are balanced for the first time. This leads them to believe that something is genetically wrong with them. But that is not the case. For most people, a low serotonin state is not genetic but directly related to eating and lifestyle habits, as well as hormone deficiencies and aging.Taking antidepressants while ignoring the real cause for a low-serotonin state will not yield permanent results. In addition, the side effect of these drugs is that they can cause rapidly changing serotonin levels, which may make you feel worse.

But serotonin-reuptake inhibitors work only if serotonin is avail able to inhibit. If you suffer from an acute low-serotonin state, even these drugs will not help you. In order for these drugs to work, in the long term you must balance your diet, eliminate the use of stimulants and other drugs, reduce carbohydrate consumption, take hormone replacement therapy (if needed), and manage stress.

Because some patients first improve and then become resistant to the effect of these drugs and some patients do not respond at all, psychiatrists have found that stimulants such as Dexedrine and Cytomel enhance the effects of the serotonin-reuptake inhibitor drugs by increasing the release of serotonin. Though this may not seem bad, these drugs will work only short term. In the same way that the stimulants caffeine, alcohol, stress and sugar deplete your serotonin levels further, so will the stimulants Dexedrine and Cytomel. People are taking two drugs to temporarily correct a condition that is curable by changing eating and lifestyle habits or by taking hormone replacement therapy, if needed.

In my own words:

If we want to stay out of the medical system, as much as possible, we need to be responsible for finding natural alternatives to drugs, and to store up on these while they are still available.

If there is some drug we can not live with out, they are available in other countries. Stock up a large supply. When i was in eastern Europe this past summer i found that you could buy basically anything you wanted without any prescription. When i was in Mexico it was the same.
Except when you buy a drug in Mexico, you are not guaranteed either the quality or purity of that particular drug.

Interesting that you wrote about Google. I was just having the same conversation with a friend of mine over chat. I told that it was in my opinion that Google would be our downfall. I think that we will be rounded up and headed into concentration camps based on our searches via Google. Christians will be labeled "terrorists" based on what research was being done. Certain websites will be flagged and if you visit those websites say so many are going to Sing Sing.

Thanks for the information. I do believe, as others have made the same comment...The internet would be used to reach non-believers in the end of times. I think if it were not for sites like this, that my head would still be in the clouds and I would be waiting for people to be raptured before I would get my stuff together.

Readers Digest, April 2009, page 127: YOUR TRACKS ONLINE

Just as your computer's browser maintains a history of the websites you visit, your Internet provider (ISP) ma keep an electronic log of the ones you peruse. Until recently, this was all just worthless data. But now some ISP's are considering selling these lists to companies that analyze them and then send targeted ads back to you. If you're bothered by this, there are three things you can do:

*Go to and let the site automatically check whether your ISP is using monitoring devices.
*Since this check is not comprehensive, call your ISP and ask if it's contemplating selling browsing data; if so, object.
*Download a free software program called Tor from, which will help block those prying ISP eyes.

Similarly, when you type a phrase into a search engine, you're broadcasting your interests and personal information. Like ISP's, some search companies routinly gather, store, and sell analyses of such data strings. That's why you should never search your full name and Social Security number or your name and password. Some other tips from the WPF:

*Don't sign up for e-mail with your favorite search engine. This makes it easier to link you and your interests.
*Use a variety of engines and computers for searching. This makes it more difficult to profile you.
*Find out if your ISP uses a static IP address system, and if it does, periodically request a new IP address (essentially your computer's address).
*Use software that masks your computer's address, like and
I found a quote by Francis Schaeffer that ill close this post with. I think its a good reality check.

No matter how many more tidbits of info we can post on dark forces here, and no matter how deep our admiration can grow for the most highly esteemed contributors, and how faithful of congregants we are at the Church of My Perspective. In reality we already have way more "knowledge" than we need to discern between good, and evil, and to effectively warn others.

Any one who has the Holy Spirit, who prays and studies the scriptures can "see" the world for what it is.

How many mega pix tels of clarity do we need about New Age, before we move on and "get a life, for Christ"?

Really, all of us have made it very easy for the spider. We have all found ourselves mesmerized by its web, and partakers of its wares.

Our zeal is often to "fertilize" our personal religious tendencies. And to be "affirmed", by others of our brand of religion. Rather than loose our "self" in humble submission to Yahushua.

No amount of patriot zeal will turn the tide of what our Heavenly Father is now letting. What are we to save, the deep moral fiber of our nation, and our great wealth?

In the end, when they come for us, or should we be here when Yahushua comes for us, may we be with the wise virgins. On the Rock, and not the sand!

F.A. Schaeffer:

"The central problem of our age is not liberalism or modernism, nor the old Roman Catholicism or the new Roman Catholicism, nor the threat of communism, nor even the threat of rationalism and the monolithic consensus which surrounds us (nor, I would add today, postmodernism or materialistic consumerism or visceral sensualism or whatever). All these are dangerous but not the primary threat. The real problem is this: the church of the Lord Jesus Christ, individually or corporately, tending to do the Lord`s work in the power of the flesh rather than of the Spirit. The central problem is always in the midst of the people of God, not in the circumstances surrounding them"
Hi Valerie,

Could this have any relevance with regard to your inquiry?

2009 World Parliament of Religions

New age meeting.
Hi Constance,

Here is part of what is designed to "boost global markets."

The "bailout" money confiscated from U.S. taxpayers going overseas!





Shem 1777 said: “No matter how many more tidbits of info we can post on dark forces here, and no matter how deep our admiration can grow for the most highly esteemed contributors, and how faithful of congregants we are at the Church of My Perspective. In reality we already have way more "knowledge" than we need to discern between good, and evil, and to effectively warn others.”

Chuck Baldwin said: “Christians have a moral imperative to resist evil, even if their efforts are fruitless.”
I would say that the Constitution demands it. Though we are citizen of heaven we still owe our forefathers and grandchildren the best we can muster.
Chuck Baldwin would seem to disagree with you, in that information is important in coping with the “enemy.”

I love F.S. and that quote is important and wise, but to use it in a dismissive sense is inappropriate; the nearness of danger is often a catalyst for living a more righteous life.
Though there are some here who don’t like Hal Lindsey, his book: THE LATE GREAT LANET EARTH was used by the Lord to bring the gospel to many, even as has been testified that this site has done; be glad for that, rejoice with heaven’s angels, and if you think this blog is a waste of time, why bother?
I have always looked forward to your comments, but found your above quote counter productive and even rude.
Sincerely yours,
Dear Setterman,

Your excellent comment sounds similar to something I was once taught by a very religious and very wise mentor; namely, that we are to believe that all depends upon God while acting as if all depends upon us.

Is that not something along the lines of what C.S. Lewis once referred to as "the weight of glory?"

Best Regards,

Hmmm, now why would they put a bunch of Spy Blimps in the sky? I can't imagine!

One thing we can know for sure, too much is unfolding too quickly, we can know that forces have been hard at work for decades.

Pentagon Seeks Fleet Of Massive DARPA Spy Blimps

Hovering 12 miles up, airships will scan vast expanses

Steve Watson
Friday, March 13, 2009

The Pentagon has announced intentions to launch an entire fleet of giant 450-foot-long airships which will act as a massive airborne radar system providing perpetual surveillance of vehicles, planes and people on the ground.

The Pentagon said Thursday that it intends to spend $400 million to develop a giant dirigible that will operate on hydrogen fuel cells and solar panels, floating 65,000 feet above the Earth for 10 years, reports the LA TImes.

The airships will be around twenty times larger than the Goodyear Blimp, giving ground operators the capability of monitoring an area hundreds of miles in diameter at a time with surveillance equipment, such as high-resolution cameras, in addition to the football-field-sized radar antenna.

Although very large, the airships will be invisible to both the naked eye and ground radar because of their distance from the earth, hovering around 12 miles above the ground.

The craft would also operate beyond the range of any hand-held missile, many surface-to-air missiles and most fighter planes.

The airship, named ISIS (Integrated Sensor Is the Structure), no doubt after the Ancient Egyptian goddess, is being developed under an agreement between the Air Force and DARPA, the Pentagon’s semi-secret research arm.

Werner J.A. Dahm, chief scientist for the Air Force describes the airship as “constant surveillance, uninterrupted”.

“When you only have a short-time view — whether it is a few hours or a few days — that is not enough to put the picture together.” Dahm said.

(Article continues below)

The Pentagon has described the project as a tool to be used over urban battlegrounds abroad. But, like DARPA’S”Combat Zones That See” project, there’s no reason ISIS couldn’t float over major cities such as New York or Chicago without anyone knowing.

A similar program known as WALRUS was effectively killed off by Congress in 2006. However, the ISIS program has been floating around (pun intended) since 2004.

“We will apply this technology to track people emerging from buildings of interest and follow them as they move to new locations,” announced DARPA’s Paul Benda at a conference in March 2004. “Imagine the impact it will have if ISIS tracks the movement of individuals for months. Hidden webs of connections between people and facilities will be revealed.”

In 2006, reports regarding the project resurfaced as DARPA courted defense contractors Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman to develop the airships.

The Air Force has signed an agreement with DARPA to develop a demonstration dirigible by 2014
Hi Constance:

Question above about Sustainable Development. It's getting lost in the shuffle. Needed your opinion on that and your insights on Africa.

Thanks! Margie
On the last ( incredibly long ) thread
you mentioned Otto Skorzeny.
I'm just wondering if you ever saw

_and what you make of it.
I know CC dropped the link to 51 Reasons to Say No to Global Governance, but I think his current entry should be looked at.


Tuesday, March 10, 2009
A Special City State, A Special Regime - Jerusalem Old City Initiative Debuts On CFR's Flagship "Foreign Affairs" As "The Missing Peaces"

The Missing Peaces have arrived.

“Old City, New Regime: Beyond Sovereignty”

"To resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, policymakers will have to develop a new regime for Jerusalem's Old City." - excerpt from "The Missing Peaces", Foreign Affairs, March/April 2009, Volume 88, Number 2

Michael D. Bell is Paul Martin, Sr., Senior Scholar on International Diplomacy at the University of Windsor. He has served as Canadian Ambassador to Jordan, Egypt, and Israel.

Daniel C. Kurtzer is S. Daniel Abraham Visiting Professor in Middle East Policy Studies at Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs.

Documented here first at 51 Reasons To Say No To Global Governance The Old City Of Jerusalem City State Initiatives are clearly being defined at the Council Of Foreign Relations flagship publication "Foreign Affairs".

Originally titled in JOCI (Jerusalem Old City Initiative) Fall 2008 Winter 2009 newsletter, "Old City, New Regime: Beyond Sovereignty" this report non-nonchalantly cites the Old City of Jerusalem as the missing piece in the Mid-East peace process. Hence CFR's alluring "Foreign Affairs" title "The Missing PEACES".

Although the article envisions the Old City Of Jerusalem proposals as a "special regime...special autonomous governance regime...Old City Special Regime (OCSR)..." the tight wording cannot elude its message of its unique sovereign status propelling the Old City Of Jerusalem beyond comprehension into a global-state like status more than a Vatican City State.

And continuing on JOCI's commissioned studies the suspense thickens as an unknown third party will co-lead this new "regime/government/state/" alongside of Israel and Palestine.

"The involvement of an impartial third-party administrator -- chosen by the Israelis and the Palestinians together -- is essential, as it would build confidence between the two sides and reinforce it over time............a special autonomous governance regime with a strong third-party presence would be the optimal system for the interim management of the Old City."

This third party will undoubtedly solidify to the world, the political cornerstone of the new government in the Old City.

"Support from the international community, including a strong UN Security Council resolution, would strengthen that (its) legitimacy."

This New Old City of Jerusalem governance, as the centerpiece of the Middle East Peace process, will solidify into the minds of the world that peace is here.


And further down the entry-

At its core, the conflict is about control over Jerusalem's holy sites, especially the Haram al-Sharif, or Temple Mount; the Western Wall; and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre -- all of which are located within the stone walls of the Old City. Most important, the Islamic and the Jewish sacred spaces of the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount pose a particular problem because they overlap physically and are historically interconnected and indivisible. Given these sites' immense religious, cultural, and emotional power, they must be administered fairly and equitably. The involvement of an impartial third-party administrator -- chosen by the Israelis and the Palestinians together -- is essential, as it would build confidence between the two sides and reinforce it over time. In the meantime, sovereignty claims would not be relinquished but be deferred. This would not constitute internationalization -- an idea that both parties oppose -- as there would be no international jurisdiction. Rather, this new regime would be created by the Israeli and Palestinian governments and would be accountable to them. Such a special autonomous governance regime with a strong third-party presence would be the optimal system for the interim management of the Old City.

And even further we have this expected speculation-

I would not be surprised to see the European Union there.
If you put "sustainable development" and "united nations" into a google search you'll find everything you need to know. The movement came straight out of the UN and is working through a pyramid system down into your community. The trick being used is that it is presented as if it is coming straight from your local leaders. As with most things, you'll have to do the leg work yourself in tracing down what you want to know. It is too big to be presented as a comment in a blog.
This might give you a good start:
What is Sustainable Development?

Learn how to recognize the Agenda for the 21st Century aka Agenda 21 and Sustainable Development. The word "sustainable" sounds good, but our research indicates that the application of Sustainable Development policies are seriously flawed. See our simple easy to read pamphlet:

Understanding Sustainable Development/Agenda 21 - View Free
WOW! thank you, Anonymous. So nice of you to look that up. I've been concerned about this, because the forest department has given us until 2010 to comply with their mandate and we have a paper to sign saying we agree to it. We don't want to sign it because we don't agree. They have no right to tell us how to live on our own property. They are telling us what we can do and cannot do. And if we don't sign it and there's a forest fire, we will be fined thousands of dollars for causing more fire. It has to do with a whole bunch of regulations because we are in a forest zone.

I think they want us all out of here eventually. It's real bully government. You do what we say type of thing. We've been so peaceful here and they think they are lording over us.

We're just at the beginning of the growing season and there were 7 chemtrails up there today. People have had a hard time growing in this area in the last year or so.

Government is after the rural areas more than city from what I've heard recently. They are concentrating on controlling us. There has been talk of chips in our animals; horses, cows, chickens, etc. We thought if we moved to the country it would be more peaceful. It is, but they are about to get overbearing.

Thanks, again, Anonymous and I will look into all of what you given. I want to know what we are up against.
This is something I read on that link you gave me Anonymous. It has Africa on that list too. I tell you that country is their target for depopulation and resources for the world. I'd hate to live there. Here's the list.

Provisional agenda
1. Adoption of the agenda and organization of work.
2. Policy options and possible actions to expedite implementation:
(a) Agriculture;
(b) Rural development;
(c) Land;
(d) Drought;
(e) Desertification;
(f) Africa.
3. Adoption of the report of the Intergovernmental Preparatory Meeting.
Margie, could you share what you are dealing with regarding living in a forest zone. Nothing has happened to us, but we live in such a zone.
Agenda 21/Sustainable Development:
It is EVERYWHERE. All bases are covered. Your government schools? The curriculum. Local government? All regulations. Local churches? Propaganda about saving the earth. Turn on your TV? Everything from kids' programs to news to sit-coms. Local businesses? Preaching to you about how green they are and how you should be too. Go to the library? They'll preach to you from there. Nowhere to go where the brainwash does not happen
Hi Paul,

No, I have never seen the Otto Skorzeny material for which you provided a link, but it is one humdinger of a tale.

Apparently, the origin of this "alternative history" is a man named Erik Berman (a.k.a. Erik Orion) who claims to have dated the daughter of Otto Skorzeny in Florida.

Berman claims that Otto was ninety at the time.

In any case, Berman wrote a book in 2008 entitled THE BUSH CONNECTION allegedly based on revelations made to him by Otto Skorzeny before he died.

This story is also at the Rense site and at Conspiracy Planet.

It is to be noted that there is - or was as of 2005 - a branch of Aryan Nations in Florida whose leasder was "reaching out to al-Qaeda" in an attempt to form a Nazi-Islamic alliance - which leads one to wonder if this Skorzeny story has been concocted for the purpose of rallying neo-Nazis to the cause of the "Fourth Reich" they have allegedly been scheming and dreaming about since the end of World War II.

I don't know how deeply you have delved into this story, but have you seen the "Curious George" connection?

As Inspector Clouseau would say in THE PINK PANTHER: "There's a minkey in the reum!"

I respect your opinion. My intent was not to be rude, and i was not trying to be "counter productive"

Basically id like to see an effort here to produce materials such as tracks, booklets, videos, video disks etc, that would make an impact on people who are lost, confused, worried about, and or completely in the dark about what is actually going on in this world. I would support that financially, and pass out the materials in my own area.

Just hanging out at Constance's every day, could be counter productive. We are just a small handful of people here. The world is not knocking on the door here.

Iv mentioned this before to Constance. Her reply was that she had never considered "commercially" producing a video, and that was that.

I know Constance has graciously offered her books to us, but iv passed out lots of books, and know most people wont read them. They are much more likely to watch a video, or read a booklet, tract etc.
Hello Everybody,
I do not know if you have seen the following material already or not, but I am gonna post these addresses because I believe they are very helpful resources.
Both come from the Ministry of Scott Johnson. He has two very long sermons about Maitreya and his so called masters of wisdom.
This is the first link you can listen to the audio and also download the PDF file he has there with pictures and quotes directly from Mr. Creme's website. There are also pictures of the "masters".

The second Link leads to Google video where there is a sermon about Maitreya only, it is a very in depth study, it has four parts, each part lasts about an hour. I find this very helpful in case you want to share it with someone or improve what you already know. Remember it has 4 parts. Once you are done with part 1 just Google the second part and so on and so forth

The good think about all these materials is that you can download them and save them for later in case they get erased or something. Personally I think you should listen to the sermon on Google first and then the other.

God bless you all,
About the links the google videos have 7 parts. I made a mistake saying 4.
'Absolutely horrifying’ proposal calls for using aborted babies as organ donors

London, England, Mar 13, 2009 (CNA).- A leading embryonic stem cell expert in Britain has called for organs from aborted babies to be used in transplants to increase the supply of organs available for donation, drawing criticism from pro-life and Christian groups who called the proposal “absolutely horrifying.”

Professor Sir Richard Gardner of Oxford University, an advisor to the Royal Society and the Human Fertilization and Embryology Authority, made his comments at an Oxford International Biomedical Center conference, the Daily Mail reports.

Expressing surprise that the possibility has not been considered, he said using fetal tissues for organ transplant is “probably a more realistic technique in dealing with the shortage of kidney donors than others.”

Experiments in mice, he said, have shown that fetal kidneys grow extremely quickly when transplanted into adult animals.

Using aborted fetuses “is something that could be done but it's not something that's talked about much.”

“It is at least a temporary solution,” he said, also calling for a study into the feasibility of such procedures.

Professor Stuart Campbell, a London obstetrician who argued for the abortion time limit to be lowered, had no ethical objections to the proposal, arguing that many babies were aborted quite late.

“If they are going to be terminated, it is a shame to waste their organs,” he claimed.

“I am sure very few of those on the transplant list would rather die than accept an organ from an aborted fetus,” he told the Daily Mail.

Dr. Peter Saunders of the Christian Medical Fellowship said the transplants would be immoral because every human being deserves “protection, respect, wonder and empathy.”

Josephine Quintavalle, of Comment on Reproductive Ethics, called the proposal “absolutely horrifying,” telling the Daily Mail:

“At what stage do you say to the woman who is to have an abortion, ‘Can we have some organs for transplant?’”
George Washington’s Blog
March 13, 2009

Everyone knows that China has $2 trillion in foreign reserves. Two-thirds of those reserves are said to be denominated in dollars.

But - after years of speculation - there are increasing signs that China is diversifying out of the dollar.

For example, the head of China’s energy bureau said in comments published on Monday “China should use part of its nearly $2 trillion in foreign exchange reserves to buy more gold, oil, uranium and other strategic commodities”.

And as Bloomberg writes today:

“We have lent a huge amount of money to the United States,” [Chinese premier] Wen said at a press briefing in Beijing today …. “Of course we are concerned about the safety of our assets. To be honest, I am a little bit worried. I request the U.S. to maintain its good credit, to honor its promises and to guarantee the safety of China’s assets.”

China should seek to “fend off risks” as it diversifies its $1.95 trillion in foreign-exchange reserves and will safeguard its own interests, Wen said. Chinese investors held $696 billion of U.S. Treasuries as of Dec. 31, an increase of 46 percent from the prior year.

“We have adopted a principle of diversification with our foreign-exchange investments,” said Wen. “So far, our holdings are generally safe. China will mainly use the reserves for outbound investments and trade.”

There it is, straight from the horses mouth. China appears to finally be diversifying out of the dollar.
You know I'm kinda a silent reader on this Blog, but I just read something about the Smart Meter and it got me thinking about what my community (Shelby Twp, MI) did last year... they told all households that they (GE) wanted to come in and replace their water meters... we were told we had to have this smart metering, and that it would save us money so all residents were told we had to comply..I thought it sounded fishy.... well they came around 2 years ago in the fall and started replacing the meters... I did not sign up for over a year.. until they sent us a note telling us they were going to cut our service unless we complied... now I wish I hadn't... don't suppose there a way to dumb your house down...? and unhook the "Smart" in that meter down stairs...?

Constance there is Civil unrest up here in Shelby... get a look at this blog:
"It sounds like an absurd idea. The plan is to build a massive pyramid, filled with human remains, on a windswept field near the city of Dessau, eastern Germany."
"The new Great Pyramid would be a very efficient cemetery. It would have a huge capacity. A 150m-high pyramid could contain five million stones, it would be the size of six football fields and millions of people could be buried there."
"The new pyramid is not a monument built for one king, it will be there for people of all faiths, for atheists, for everyone. It will grow for thousands of years. I would like to be one of the first people to be buried there."



Millions of human remains...?

By His Grace,
Whoever posted the video on depression meds, thank you. Years ago Eli LIlly was in a class action suit because a high number of people that used Prozac were committing violent acts or suicide.

Eli LIlly was able to beat the suit by saying that the people who take those drugs had problems to begin with, so how could one determine that it was Prozac caused these problems. Lilly one, and Prozact turned out to be one of the top selling drugs in history.

The film confirms all of my worse suspicions and observations about the use of these kind of medicines. Nothing about the film is surprising, but it's great to see someone document this.

I have known folks on these different medicines and been horrified by how easily people are will to use chemicals that change the brain chemistry without having a clue what these drugs do. People are so gullible when it comes to professionals.

The Bible says the whole world is under the influence of the evil one, so we should proceed with the idea that most of these business are motivated by money, the root of all kinds of evil.

Here is the Strong's definition of sorcery:

5331. farmakei÷a pharmakeia, far-mak-i´-ah; from 5332; medication (“pharmacy”), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively): — sorcery, witchcraft.

Our medical industry is based on treating symptoms and almost never looking for root causes, unless it's a broken leg...this approach leaves people chronically dependent on medicines creating an annuity stream of income for the companies when their drugs come off patent. It is virtually recession proof industry because drugs are not a luxury item.

It is also interesting to note when you talk to someone who is on these kinds of medicines, like Prozac or similar drugs, there is a personality change and veil between you and that person.

We need to use a lot of wisdom in the days in which we are living in ever domain of our lives, spiritual, medical, educational, financial, political etc, etc.

Fortunately, our loving Father has not left us with out an instruction book:

Psa. 119:169 Let my cry come before You, O LORD; Give me understanding according to Your word.

In this week's Torah portion, Moses is up on the mountain getting the tablets with God's Word inscribed on them, but the people become impatient waiting. In the absence of Moses presence they decided to take their plunder from Egypt and built the golden calf. They are wondering who is going to lead them and think they've been abandoned. In their old slave mentality, they need a graven image to assure them. They brought their ideas from Egypt with them and didn't realize that God was offering them a marriage covenant. They didn't see themselves as His treasured possession.

How many times is it like this for people who go into depression or have anxiety. It's because they can't see themselves the way God sees them. They don't understand the new creation reality ( I'm talking about even believers now). How many times do they feel unworthy? What do they a golden calf to reassure themselves that God hasn't left?

Today we have built many golden calves. We have sacrificed having God's presence dwelling with us for the gods of materialism. I don't necessarily mean all the folks on this blog, but our Western culture has elevated doctors to the level of gods, politicians, entertainers, religious figures, sports figures, etc., etc.

Many think their stock portfolio, or their shrink or their title or their influence is going to save them. When Yeshua comes all of this will be burned up. We will be standing before the King of Kings, naked.. None of those things will mean anything because He is Lord over all.

That is why the Scriptures say, every knee will bend and tongue confess that He is Lord to the praise and glory of His Name. We will be looking on the King of glory and all of this stuff that concerns us right now will pale in comparison to the surpassing greatness of Yeshua the Messiah.

This is just an encouragement this Shabbat to take some time today and sit at His feet and cease from your own labor. In the ceasing, we will realize that He is all sufficient, He is able, He has paid the price in full for our iniquities and we can truly rest. In doing that we will be honoring His Word to stop this day, and saying that we are His. It's not a question of being Jewish. It's a question of knowing the God who revealed Himself from Genesis to Revelations, who doesn't change. The Holy of One of Israel, the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob..

Yeshua is Lord of the Shabbat, and gave it to us as a blessing, not a punishment, so may He fill you today with wisdom to know how high and how deep and how wide is His love for all of us.

If people with depression, anxiety, etc. knew the Lord of the Shabbat and honored Him, they might have fewer emotional problems because He gives us His shalom. We would remember for the rest of the week that He has provided the 7th day, given us a double portion and there is no end to Shabbat when we learn to rest in Him, but it is in the doing that experience what it means to live by faith. He is pointing us to an eternal Shabbat, where His kingdom will never end.

Shema o Yisrael, is hear and obey.. Today if in your hearing, you hear My Voice...

John 10:27 “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;

If we really learn to hear His voice, we will not be anxious about the days ahead, but walk by faith knowing He is sovereign over it all. His plans and timing are perfect. He works everything together fro good for those who love Him and are called to His purposes.

I hope you are all encouraged that the King of Glory is coming back one of these days soon to reign from Jerusalem and has put all things under His feet. This truth should eliminate a great deal of anxiety and worry from all of our lives.

May His Name be praised and lifted up today!

Shabbat starts at sundown Friday and ends at sundown Saturday.. see what happens if you are willing to set it apart for Him. .

Shabbat shalom,

Another group operation. It just may counteract the Obama group operation.
Hi Anonymous: I've been watching videos for hours, from the sustainable development link you gave me.
It's shocking what they have planned for us. Soon it will go from our right to die, to our duty to die. So strange and evil. I can see now how they are going to bring about depopulation of millions of people who will be willing to die for the good of the environment.

Thank you Anonymous, so much for sharing that link. It's been quite an education, and there's a whole lot more to see and read yet. They've got it all mapped out for us.

Just saw your question about what is going on here. Some people are complying already, but many have not and probably will not. That's just the way it is here. Even though you live in a forest area, does not necessarily mean you are in the zone that Sustainable Development has mapped out all the way south in California to the north to Canada. What you should do is find a map of theirs showing who is within the boundaries. We just happen to be right in the thick of this plan. This is ironic, because we moved here to have peace and quiet, and we do have except for this encroaching government regulation thing.

They have a clever way of naming it, called reverse psychology. Here's the title of this plan here. "Oregon Forestland-Urban Interface Fire Protection Act." And get a load of this title, "Property Evaluation & Self-Certification Guide".

We have trees around our house and they want a 30 foot clearance around our structure. No matter what clearance you do a fire can still burn it down. There's no way we can comply without having to pay a considerable amount of money.

Then they want no firewood next to a structure during the summer months. You'd have to move it to 20 feet away at that time and put it back in Winter. This represents a work my husband and I cannot do. We have our wood next to the garage with a roof over it. Wood is heavy and it's a lot of work putting it under a shelter for Winter and then move it in Summer.

No portion of trees can be within 10 feet of your house. Nothing can be under your deck. They also want you to have non-flammable roofing, which we don't have I don't believe, and it's not that old. We have just regular roofing material.

You have to keep weeds down and dry grass at 4" and bare ground around the house. This is a real hardship too for seniors who live here. They'd have to hire someone. Trees and shrubs have to be kept green. This isn't possible.

They try to make the material they sent to us so appealing. But they are telling us what we can and cannot do on our property. I wonder what they will do if we don't comply? One thing this booklet says that if we don't certify and there is a fire, we will be charged $100,000. One statement by them: The cost collection may be greater than $100.000 if a homeowner is found to be willful, negligent or malicious in the origin of the fire. (They seem to be using scare tactics)

One question: Will certification reduce a property's fire-risk classification? The answer, NO. A homeowner is not fined for not complying with the act. It's just that threat of the $100.000. Of course a homeowner probably could pay $1.00 a month the rest of their life. (joke) This certification is only good for 5 years. We are in a HIGH classification area which I just noticed on the certification form. That's great! We are to return this form to ODF by Nov.2010. This is the warning on the front of the form.

Returning a certification form to ODF is optional. However, if the card isn't signed and returned to ODF and a fire occurs on the property, the property owner may be billed $100.000 of the suppression costs incurred by ODF.

Once a homeowner has complied, your property has to be certified with a signed paper, saying you have complied.

Hope this helps. If you have not been notified yet, chances are your not going to be affected.
This is off the topic. Karen Armstrong was a guest on Bill Moyers Journal last evening. Very troubling.

Bill Moyers Journal:

You can leave comments on Bill Moyers Blog. NOTE: By reading most of the comments there, people are buying into what Karen Armstrong promotes.

Karen Armstrong's website:

Charter For Compassion
The 912 Project:
Glenn Beck Preaches 9 Principles and 12 Values

He believes that “we surround them” (meaning government).

He wants us to go back to our basic beliefs. To take back our country.

The 12 values Glenn Beck is telling Americans they must embrace are:
• Honesty
• Reverence
• Hope
• Thrift
• Humility
• Charity
• Sincerity
• Moderation
• Hard Work
• Courage
• Personal Responsibility
• Gratitude

The Nine Principles

1. America is good.

2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life.

3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday.
4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government.

5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it.

6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results.

7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.

8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion.

9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me.

He is asking everyone to talk to their friends, churches find poeple that believe the same as you do. He feels we can take back our country through this grass roots attempt. He has a huge following. Right now if anyone could pull this off he might be it. He is exposing things like the Smart grid, and other issues that are usully hidden. He is on Fox news. I have been shocked with what he has said. He hints we have been taken over, He is not a D or R. for both are corrupt. It is interesting to watch him. He is tell us to prepare for the worse. Have food storages,etc.. He is a refreshing voice in the darkened media.

I have found out thing from him no one else has talked about, like the smart grid (he does not like it at all.

Just thought I would share.
Bella: You are being had by Beck. Rupert Murdoch is his handler. His paycheck comes from Murdoch. I got a report from a friend regarding the bunch who showed up at the bar in Columbus, Ohio for his rally. His purpose is to distract them from the real truth. I've read some of the hysterically hero-wowshipping emails that bunch sent to each other before the gathering. They were enraptured. Beck worked for Murdoch to derail the Ron Paul campaign. Which god is Beck worshipping? The Mormon god who used to be a man?
Margie: while you're educating yourself you need to go to the web site of Niki Raapana and learn what she has put together. Her site is called anti-communitarianism. She got her education about the plan to take the country and all of us over by living in Seattle. She now lives in a tent in Alaska. Her latest post at her blog is about an awful man who was a cop in Seattle and is going to D.C. to help Obama the Usurper to enslave us. She knows the guy.
From Natural News (3/13/09):
Psychiatric Drug Use of German Shooter Confirmed: Kretschmer Withdrawing from Depression Treatment

Yesterday we reported on the recent school shooting in Germany, emphasizing the link between psychiatric medications and acts of extreme violence.

From the facts that were known yesterday, it was already apparent that the shooter, Tim Kretschmer, was either on psychiatric medications or withdrawing from them. His behavior and choice of targets (including a worker at a psychiatric medical school) pointed strongly towards his use of antidepressant drugs, which are known to cause violent thoughts and behavior.

Behind the scenes, I already knew from an industry source that Kretschmer had undergone psychiatric “treatment,” but I could not name that source and thus chose not to publish that fact until it could be further corroborated.

But today, the Associated Press confirms it. In a story widely published across the ‘net…), police investigator Siegfried Mahler states on the record that the shooter (Kretschmer) “underwent several treatment sessions for depression at a psychiatric clinic” and was “…prescribed a session of outpatient therapy, which he never began.”

Thus, the shooter was on psychiatric medications and then quit using them. This created a classic antidepressant withdrawal crisis which is exactly what leads to extreme acts of violence against self or others. As we reported in our previous story, virtually every school shooting that has taken place in the last two decades was carried out by those who either take psychiatric medications or are attempting to quit them.

The mainstream media, as usual, remains mystified about why so many teens would pick up deadly weapons and kill their classmates. They seem to willingly ignore the truth about the rather obvious links between antidepressant drug use and acts of extreme violence. It’s almost as if there is a willing conspiracy by the media to apologize for the pharmaceutical industry and avoid mentioning anything that might implicate Big Pharma’s drugs in these school shootings.

When will the ignorant people in our world finally realize the obvious? That when you artificially alter a teenager’s brain chemistry, you also change his behavior. And interjecting synthetic chemicals into a human brain instead of relying on nutrition and natural medicine that’s fundamentally compatible with human biology, you’re going to get some rather nasty results.

New law for Cook County, Illinois to require sellers of property to submit their right hand thumb print.
While those like Glen Beck and Alex Jones appear to be doing us a great "service" by providing us with the truth (classified, inside information) - we have to ask ourselves - how is it possible that they are being allowed to do this? Are they also "tools" of the government?

For example, Alex Jones manages to know when and where every secret Bilderberg meeting is going to take place and even provide us with the names of those attending. Yet, no one stops him.

Are they trying to stir up the American people to the point of revolution and rioting in the streets? Bring them out into the sunlight, so the government can see and know exactly who they are? Will our government then make their move to declare Martial Law? Will these same good, God-fearing, truly patriotic Americans - who simply want to stand up and be counted, stop the evil, and take our country back - be taken off to KBR built holding centers or camps (the various locations of which have been well documented in every single state across our country)?
Obama the Usurper? He won an election that people voted in. Was George W. Bush an usurper, too? George Washington? I never looked at their birth certicates. How do we know they were citizens? What a crazy notion! Taking seriously information from a lady who lives in a tent in Alaska? That's just nuts! That's crazier than voting for a governor of Alasdka to be vic3e president.
Good post Joyce 2:23 A.M., and Anonymous 8:14 A.M.

Do we really need a pill so we don't have to pee so often, or to clear up our sniffles?

Considering the list of contra indications, we are doing ourselves more harm than good!

Our body's are signaling we have an imbalance that needs our attention.

There are natural alternatives to nearly every symptom diminishing drug big pharma is all to happy to hand out.

Western medicine has its niche, but its net positive good is highly diluted by its obsession with symptom masking drugs.

The fifth leading cause of death is medical error!

All this before making mention of its participation in womb management by pill, knife, saline solution etc. The womb that God made, and opens, or closes.

We need to exercise great discernment in deciding were western medicine is best, or if there is an alternative.

Besides, as the globalist increasingly micro manage us to were we are required to comply in fully interfacing with the beast system, an alternative is requisite
Big Brother...
To Anonymous 8:56, Alex Jones says his only saving grace is the fact that he is so well known, (worldwide) and has quite a following. The elite have to tread carefully with him. He says he gets many threatening phone calls from government agencies. To tell you the truth, I wouldn't want to be in his shoes, or his wife's shoes.

In my opinion Glen Beck is in a different category, he is on the Fox News Network and without doubt has a chain around his neck.

I used to think Jones was a flaming kook, but my eyes began to open when Bush was pursuing his first bailout, I realized I was watching an agenda. The timing was such that I stumbled across Alex Jones while researching with a new open mind. Everything he and his guest predicted have come to pass, such as oil going down to $50. a barrel, the coming economic crash, etc. He says he isn't a prophet or smarter than everyone else, he simply reads the elites own documents and believes them.

While I don't agree with his conclusions, or all of his positions, he isn't the kook I used to think he was. Just my opinion.
Margie thanks for the information on forests. Looking at all of the websites around the world just dealing with the Sustainable Development measures on forests is overwhelming. No wonder government grows and the capitalist system shrinks. The measures they want you to take are truly burdensome.

Stay away from Raapana unless you like neo-Nazi activity.

Watch the government and people try to bust up the Beck effort. Once people get together there is no way that information about what is going on can be stopped from spreading. The Nazi movement spread because people were intimidated from getting together and talking to each other.

Yes, there is a risk in sticking one's neck out, but our soldiers have done that and more to protect our freedoms. Should we do less?

If everyone was going to hide their heads under the covers, there would be no Constance, Dorothy, Rudi, JD, and all the rest of the many people who have shared information over the years, against the New Age, against the abortion community, against the ERA, against the communist front groups, the Sustainable Development people, etc.

Yes, there is a risk, but take it or don't moan when things go wrong. I have absolutely no sympathy for those who voted for Obama and who have lost financially. Tough patooties guys. You left Mama and Daddy behind when you left home.
First, there is a lot of information out there regarding the cultural changes taking place. There are many websites, many individual detectives. Alex Jones is not doing any great research on his own. He is doing what all of the major commentators are doing, picking up and spreading. Only in his case, he pretends he is the one man band to people who don't know how to use the internet or the other sources that were available before the internet. He has been exposed by many people. His nonsense about Bohemian Grove and his sneaking in was exposed. His audience is mainly people who want their ears tickled. He is a major disinformation person, one who mixes in factual information with garbage information for those who trust someone who sounds confident.

The world is a lot more complicated than simplistic Jones presents.
Perhaps anon could explain what Niki Raapana has to do with Nazism. I'd really like to know.
Information was posted on the last thread about the UN's Law of the Sea Treaty. But did you know that it would give control of the Missippi River over to the UN?
12:02 Anonymous
Well, it could be a deeper research of her links page might provide an answer.

And deeper searches of the people and their networks on her links page. Nazism is a political philosophy and not just a bunch of true believers in uniforms.
anon 1:20
I don't feel like doing deep research. You just tell us all the facts since you made the accusation.
NATO's Drive Into Eastern Europe
Tenth Anniversary
by Rick Rozoff

Global Research, March 14, 2009


The EU's Javier Solana, NATO Secretary General during the three nations' absorption (Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland; see 4th from bottom paragraph of article), boasted of his own accomplishment while waxing enthusiastic over the prospects of the bloc moving yet further east into former Soviet space.

U.K. House of Lords report on "Civil Protection and Crisis Management in the European Union," published March 11, 2009:

Tiny url:

[See in particular page 48 of 54, left column (also, page 32, upper left of doc.).]
Margie, just in case you are new to the whole UN New Age thing, you might want to check out

All of this sounds incredibly farfetched, but Lucis Trust is very clear about their connection to the UN and Robert Muller who was second in command with the UN for many, many years and who was with it since the beginning has many ties with the movement and Lucis Trust in particular.

You may already have this information and most reading here already know it, but I'm posting it for you just in case you were unfamiliar with it.
Thanks, Anonymous for those links and will be looking into them. I've heard of Niki Raapana but haven't I don't think looked at her website. Communitarianism is bad news and I know from earlier conversations that Obama is one and so is Rick Warren.

I hope Anonymous that Alex Jones is not an insider working for the wrong side. That would be tragic for all that follow him. I don't but came across this 1.54 hr. video today on Twitter. See what you think.

Will be checking out the ISP thing too. Thanks whoever provided that info. Couldn't find you in all the posts. That is a good ides to check that. I do believe your right about Google being used in a big way to spy on us. I've gotten to where I delete my contacts and emails immediately now.

Thanks for all your help Anonymous.
Anonymous 3:08 pm
Raapana in her anti-communitarian messages uses a very broad brush technique. She does not distinguish between organizing for nefarious goals versus organizing for valid improvements needed for community growth. She sends a message that says any kind of establishment organization is bad. Now who organizes things? People who can, mainly middle and upper class people. A look at the number of organizations in the Encyclopedia of Associations gives an idea of the scope of organizing taking place.
"The Encyclopedia of Associations is a comprehensive source of detailed information on over 135,000 nonprofit membership organizations worldwide. It corresponds to the printed Encyclopedia of Associations family of publications as follows: National Organizations of the U.S., which covers more than 22,200 American associations of national scope; International Organizations, which covers some 22,300 multi-national, bi-national, and non-U.S. national associations; and Regional, State, and Local Organizations, which covers more than 115,000 U.S. associations with interstate, state, intrastate, city, or local scope or membership. The Encyclopedia of Associations database provides addresses and descriptions of professional societies, trade associations, labor unions, cultural and religious organizations, fan clubs, and other groups of all types."

These are all communitarian.

The Nazi movement under Hitler went for the downfall of the bourgeois to be replaced by another system.

1 : of, relating to, or characteristic of the townsman or of the social middle class 2 : marked by a concern for material interests and respectability and a tendency toward mediocrity 3 : dominated by commercial and industrial interests : capitalistic

I am always aware that "the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend." As long as Raapana is supported by sources such as Stormfront, David Icke and Rense, my guard is up.
Unfortunately no one has taken the time to challenge her message and it has spread over a wide area, giving her a large underground following.

I have been unable to spend to mcuh time on the cpu over the last week. I am battling an infection which started as Strep, now is Bronchitis, and am afraid may be borderline pneumonia. I have had the ability to skim over the last few days of posts and must say good work to everyone. I am glad to see we are getting back to the substance, for which this forum was designed.

Thank you for allowing free downloads of your material, Mrs. Cumbey. What a blessing!
Bro. Jeff
Dear JD,
Praying for the full return of your health.
May God heal you speedily and may you be spared from pneumonia too!

By His Grace,
Anonymous 6:25 AM

I am sorry that I even mentioned Glen Beck. It was because someone before me said he had created a movement. I thought I would post what exactly that movement was. That was a mistake.

I was just saying he is letting people know about parts of the conspiracy. I was just pointing out that it is nice to see that on Fox news. I am not saying he is perfect because I have not met anyone who is.

I have taken some of Glenn's data he presents and research it for myself and found a lot of good information that way. I gain data from him along with many many others including Constance to get a fuller picture. To get pieces and put them together.

Is he going to have 100% perfect data especially being on TV, no. I don’t expect that.

But hey if he is going to attack the smart grid on TV that is GREAT! He has pointed out that it can be used to control us…..I have not heard that from anyone else that is on any major network and that can reach as many people as he can.

His data and everyone else's needs to be screened and be watch carefully but that does not mean it can not be useful. He is not a preacher is a media personality.

He has people on his show that understand the NWO. Many of his guests have written books on the subject and when you check them out they have very good data. Of course he does not talk about the New Age movement. But does talk about and hint to the NWO.

I like that he made this list of values and is encouraging the public to follow good principles and take a stand for the constitution and unite for it. The constitution is the only thing between us and the NWO plans outside of Christ's coming and God's intervention. I don’t think anyone here would disagree with the points on his list. They all are good points to live by and to help the country. That is all I was saying.

What he has created my sway some people to fight for some good things. May be get some people going back to church, because he is suggesting that. Not to his church but theirs.

The masses of people don't know what we know on this site. His is just one voice, which happens to be gaining popularity and is one that some of the main public will listen to as he uncovers parts of the conspiracy

I am sorry I offended some of you for bringing this up. I was just explaining the movement he is creating to try to take a stand for America. I think that is good to see.

As for the allegation that he is gaining data for the concentration camps, Google and being on the internet is more dangerous to you than Glen Beck. Google tracks every hit you do and archives all your e-mail and they are in league with the one world order. All of your visits to this blog spot are putting you on a hit list for the camps. Are we supposed to hide and hope not to be found or counted among the righteous? What happened to the teaching to “light your light shine”, rather than “hiding it under a bushel” for fear of being executed by the new world order. I for one would be honored and happy to stand alongside Constance, who is totally known by the New Age, and be executed with her for Christ it it was to come to that. Benjamin Creme said something to the effect that she would pay when Maitreya comes.... She does not hide so why should I. To be martyred because we are willing to take a stand and try to rescue other souls from being deceived is a noble and worthy reason to become a martyr.

I have found that no matter what blog or forum I go to, no matter what I say and anyone eles says is always picked apart. There is so much infighting among those against the NWO. The more we fight with each other and pick each other apart the more ground the New World Order and New Age Movement advance on. I for one will happily stand side by side with Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Mormons, and another person that is fighting against the same enemy for all those that fight against NWO and NAM are on the same hit list. The NWO and NAM are not as picky as we are. They will just kill us all. Yet we fight so much with each other we forget that part.

I have to say it makes me question if I should participate in blogs and forums at all, there is just too much infighting. I have been happy to see that this thread has not gone the direction of the last one.
Anonymous 1:14 a.m.
I just want to quote you here and respond:

" I for one will happily stand side by side with Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Mormons, and another person that is fighting against the same enemy for all those that fight against NWO and NAM are on the same hit list."

"The enemy" is not the New Age Movement. The enemy is HaSatan, who will keep people blinded by any means possible and keep them from knowing the King of Glory, Yeshua the Messiah.

In the words of my beloved redeemer:

Matt. 10:28 “Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Hell in my understanding, is spending eternity separated from God. Without the new birth, the new identity in Yeshua, those people you want to join arms with may combat the New Age movement, but they may spend eternity separated from God.

Or to quote Yeshua again, you can gain the whole world but lose your soul.

It seems to me that our priority is to proclaim the kingdom of God. If we are in Yeshua and He is in us, fear of the NAM or NWO is unnecessary.

Yes, the Bible says in the last days some will be decapitated, but those who are will reign with Yeshua in the Millennial Kingdom. It says some are destined to captivity, etc.

God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power and love and sound mind.

It seems to me, to know that no matter what happens to us that we will be resurrected and reign with Yeshua is the most important thing.

This is our hope:

Rom. 8:10-11 aIf Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of Him who araised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, bHe who raised cChrist Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies 1through His Spirit who dwells in you.

Suffering is not something any of us like, but His disciples may suffer:

Rom. 8:14 For all who are abeing led by the Spirit of God, these are bsons of God.
Rom. 8:15 For you ahave not received a spirit of slavery 1leading to fear again, but you bhave received spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!”
Rom. 8:16 The Spirit Himself atestifies with our spirit that we are bchildren of God,
Rom. 8:17 and if children, aheirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, bif indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.
Rom. 8:18 ¶ For I consider that the sufferings of this present time aare not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.

This is what is important:

Rom. 8:37 But in all these things we overwhelmingly aconquer through bHim who loved us.
Rom. 8:38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor athings present, nor things to come, nor powers,
Rom. 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from athe love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

When we are IN HIM, we are awaiting the restoration of the garden, but we are already seated in the heavenly realms as Paul says in Ephesians, so we are living the spiritual reality of being in "the place" .

HaMaqom, which means "the place" in Hebrew, used to refer to God's name. When we are in Him, we are in HaMaqom.. and whatever happens we have the security of dwelling with Him.

I am against Mormonism and Islam just as much as I am against the NAM. What is the difference?

Mormonism teaches that Lucifer is Yeshua's brother. Islam teaches that Mohamed is the last prophet and tells Muslims to slay Jews and Christians.

NAM is not our only enemy. Our only really enemy is HaSatan who is happy to see us enslaved and not knowing the truth about the freedom that was bought and paid for with the precious blood of Yeshua.

All the information about the scheming of NAM or NWO will not do a thing to save anyone, if they don't have the new birth.

Mark 10:15 “Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it at all.”

Our goal is not to avoid the NAM and be separated from God forever. Our goal should be walk in truth and to know Yeshua.

Now, if someone is in Yeshua, and wants to be a watchmen and to have discernment about the lies that are being believed in our day, it can be useful to know about about the New Age movement to warn others and to point them to Messiah.

If I warn someone about the New Age Movement but leave them in Islam, I haven't really done them a big favor.

I take a fair amount of heat for my postings on this blog, but I take them happily. It is never a popular position to stand for Yeshua, the living Torah, the Word who became flesh and to claim His exclusivity, but I cannot do otherwise.

If I share all my findings on the New Age, and don't share Messiah crucified the hope of glory, how have I helped anyone.

Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists etc. are all in the process of trying be a happy family. ( not everyone of course). This is utter deception, so I reject the idea that helping people discover NAM is going to save them ultimately.

If people do not know the Scriptures, they will be deceived and risk to follow the false Messiah. I don't care what you call that false Messiah. It makes no difference.

There is one and only one Messiah, and that is Yeshua HaMashiach, Yeshua who was crucified so that we may have life and have it abudently, so that our sins maybe be forgiven and we may stand before a holy God.

Paul suffered greatly. Look what he says from prison:

Phil. 3:8 More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ,

Folks, some of us might suffer. Daniel was thrown in the lions den. All of the prophets suffered. All of the disciples suffered. No one ever promised us a pain free life here, but if we know Yeshua, He will walk us through whatever comes our way and give us the strength and grace to endure it.

2Tim. 1:8 ¶ Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord or of me His prisoner, but join with me in suffering for the gospel according to the power of God,

If we are not ashamed of Him, He will not be ashamed of us:

Heb. 2:11 For both He who sanctifies and those who bare sanctified are all from one Father; for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren,

OR as Paul said, "I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Messiah because it is the power of salvation to all who believe, first to the Jew and then to the Greek."

You can gain the whole world but lose your soul....

God created us to dwell with Him for all of eternity and when we realize this, we are able to put things in the proper perspective.

I want to make one correction to an earlier comment. Money itself is not evil. It's the love of money that is evil because when we love money we will make it an idol..

God is calling a people for Himself, and to those who hear His voice.. Here's a few verses from Revelations about the Lamb/Yeshua:

Rev. 6:1 ¶ Then I saw when the aLamb broke one of the bseven seals, and I heard one of the cfour living creatures saying as with a dvoice of thunder, “Come1.”
Rev. 6:7 ¶ When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the afourth living creature saying, “Come1.”
Rev. 6:9 ¶ When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw aunderneath the baltar the csouls of those who had been slain dbecause of the word of God, and because of the etestimony which they had maintained;
Rev. 6:16 and they *asaid to the mountains and to the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the 1presence of Him bwho sits on the throne, and from the cwrath of the Lamb;
Rev. 7:9 ¶ After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from aevery nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing bbefore the throne and cbefore the Lamb, clothed in dwhite robes, and epalm branches were in their hands;
Rev. 7:10 and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, ¶ “aSalvation to our God bwho sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
Rev. 7:14 I 1said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the agreat tribulation, and they have bwashed their robes and made them cwhite in the dblood of the Lamb.
Rev. 7:17 for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their ashepherd, and will guide them to springs of the 1bwater of life; and cGod will wipe every tear from their eyes.”
Rev. 8:1 ¶ When the Lamb broke the aseventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour.
Rev. 12:11 “And they aovercame him because of bthe blood of the Lamb and because of cthe word of their testimony, and they ddid not love their life even 1when faced with death.
Rev. 13:8 All who adwell on the earth will worship him, everyone bwhose name has not been 1written cfrom the foundation of the world in the dbook of life of ethe Lamb who has been slain.
Rev. 14:1 ¶ Then I looked, and behold, athe Lamb was standing on bMount Zion, and with Him cone hundred and forty-four thousand, having dHis name and the dname of His Father written eon their foreheads.
Rev. 14:4 aThese are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they 1have kept themselves chaste. These are the ones who bfollow the Lamb wherever He goes. These have been cpurchased from among men das first fruits to God and to the Lamb.
Rev. 14:10 he also will drink of the awine of the wrath of God, which is mixed 1in full strength bin the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with cfire and 2brimstone in the presence of the dholy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
Rev. 15:3 And they *sang the asong of Moses, bthe bond-servant of God, and the csong of the Lamb, saying,
¶ “dGreat and marvelous are Your works,
eO Lord God, the Almighty;
Righteous and true are Your ways,
fKing of the 1nations!
Rev. 17:14 “These will wage awar against the Lamb, and the Lamb will bovercome them, because He is cLord of lords and cKing of kings, and dthose who are with Him are the ecalled and chosen and faithful.”
Rev. 19:7 “Let us rejoice and be glad and agive the glory to Him, for bthe marriage of the Lamb has come and His 1cbride has made herself ready.”
Rev. 19:9 ¶ Then ahe *said to me, “bWrite, ‘cBlessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.’” And he *said to me, “dThese are true words of God.”
Rev. 21:9 ¶ aThen one of the seven angels who had the bseven bowls 1full of the cseven last plagues came and spoke with me, saying, “aCome here, I will show you the dbride, the wife of the Lamb.”
Rev. 21:14 And the wall of the city had atwelve foundation stones, and on them were the twelve names of the btwelve apostles of the Lamb.
Rev. 21:22 ¶ I saw ano 1temple in it, for the bLord God the Almighty and the cLamb are its 1temple.
Rev. 21:23 And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for bthe glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the cLamb.
Rev. 22:1 ¶ Then ahe showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb,
Rev. 22:3 aThere will no longer be any curse; and bthe throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His bond-servants will serve Him;

You can read Ezekiel 46 too, and it will describe the same scene ( and don't stop there, but read 47, 48, 49).

In fact if you study Zechariah and Ezekiel you will understand a lot about the restoration.

Fix your eyes on Him..


Thank you for showing me the error of my ways. I will not defend myself as others have done in conversations with you. I will not be a part of infighting. I just will no longer comment on this blog. I have been a silent observer. I should have remained as such.


I have given you a Kathleen name she has great research that is pretty close to mine. She would be a better fit for you radio show that it seems I would.

I wish you the best.

With much respect

We are Pilgrims in a strange land
We are so far from our homeland
With each passing day it seems so clear
This world will never want us here
We're not welcome in this world of wrong
We are foreigners who don't belong
We are strangers, we are aliens
We are not of this world
We are envoys we must tarry
With this message we must carry
There's so much to do before we leave
With so many more who may believe
Our mission here can never fail
And the gates of hell will not prevail
Jesus told us men would hate us
But we must be of good cheer
He has overcome this world of darkness
And we will soon depart from here

Song by Petra

I think this is how many of us feel now.
I feel it with the new age and I feel it even greater when I see infighting amongst the God fearing faithful.
My heart aches.
Joyce wrote,
"All the information about the scheming of NAM or NWO will not do a thing to save anyone, if they don't have the new birth."

Who in the hell are you to determine who has or has not had a new birth before they are allowed to talk about the New Age movement.


To many of us you appear to be a disinformation agent whose goal is to disrupt the flow of information here with your long disruptive posts. Your dirty work has chased many away from this blog where they would have gained much knowledge about the New Age movement.

Why don't you just take your overblown ego off to some new missionary field and assume everyone here has been born again. We don't need to pass the Joyce test before we are allowed to comment.
has anyone looked at 51 reasons to say no yo global governance website to the article on jerusalem going under control of a third party -- under international, global control. it sounds like solana will step in and and and......666/i wonder what you folks see as you read about it?! thanks, if you get around to it. this seems BIG from my view. tony in vermont
whoops- i meant 51 reasons to say no TO global governance
Joyce you claim to represent the true interests of covnerting souls to Yeshua, but I really think you are unwittingly serving Helel (Satan).
Interesting how the preaching of the Gospel
without compromise and without the
trappings of man-made traditions,
really enrages some people, Joyce.
Such "righteous" indignation !
I have felt the spirit of God so strongly in my life. I have been able to tell the difference and its absence since coming to this blog.

I trust and will listen to Constance for she is why I am here. But as to the rest of the others that post I will no longer read yours. I will collapse all of your comments and only open Constaces. I know I will miss some great posts, but this will save my sanity and keep the Spirit with me. It is not work losing the Spirit to read this blog.
Re: the economic recovery, Tim Geitner says, "We are seeing the world move together at a speed and on a scale without precedent in modern times,"

I don't know about you, but I'll sleep better tonight (not). Article below.

World cooperation on economy 'unprecedented': US
1 day ago

HORSHAM, England (AFP) — The world is working together in a way "without precedent in modern times" to tackle the credit crisis, US Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said Saturday after a G20 finance ministers' meeting.

"We are seeing the world move together at a speed and on a scale without precedent in modern times," he said.

"We have a very broad basis consensus globally now on the need to act aggressively to restore growth and a commitment to move together to address this evolving crisis."

The run-up to the summit was marked by splits between the United States, which wants coordinated moves to jumpstart recovery by pumping more money into world economies, and Europe, which broadly favours regulatory reform to tackle the credit crunch.

The final communique on Saturday made no firm commitment on stimulus moves despite the US calls.

Asked about the issue, Geithner said there had been much discussion among ministers on stimulus.

"The world is with us on this and I think... the most important thing in the communique is a clear statement to do what's necessary to keep at it until we get recovery back on track."

On regulation, Geithner said: "We must establish a much clearer form of oversight and clear rules of the game more evenly enforced across the international financial system."

This would require "comprehensive changes," proposals for which the United States would soon unveil, he said, speaking of the need for a "much stronger framework of oversight."
To Bella (5:32 AM):

Please do not ALLOW "blog bully" Joyce to run you off.

She is not the ultimate authority here. She can not intimidate anyone without his/her permission.

Please do not give her that "permission" - as your comments and input are just as valuable as anyone else's here.

God bless you.
Joyce said:

"The enemy" is not the New Age Movement. The enemy is Satan."


Joyce, the New Age Movement and Satan are one and the same.

The New Age Movement isn't "new" at all. It goes all the way back to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. When Satan, in the form of a lowly serpent, tempted Eve to eat of the forbidden fruit and promised her, "Ye shall be as Gods."

The New Age Movemnet teaches that same message: "I am God; you are God; we are God; the God within."

It is the biggest LIE and SCAM ever put over on all of mankind.

Those who "buy into this lie" by allowing themselves to be "seduced by flatteries" are committing the greatest sin - the sin of PRIDE.

Their consequence will be loss of their immortal souls for all of eternity.
I see someone posted a broadcast of CSLewis speaking on "Mere Christianity". I think Lewis was/is a wise man. All he says may not pass theological muster, but I still think it's worthwhile hearing.
Program on NBC 8pm. Sunday appears to be preparing watchers for a world monarch. "Kings" characters and countries share some things familier and or similar to bible people, places, plots and prophecy? NOT for children. Preview was unsettling in an antichrist sort of way.
I think that the key words in Mr
Geitner's sound-bite is "international
financial system", just because
it's proof that there IS an international
financial system. It's not a theory
about a conspiracy. It's a fact. The
world is in the grip of a system
called the "central banking system"
(and they never capitalize it as a proper
noun either, and they don't like for people
to call it a Central Bank but that's
what it is ), and it's a private bank
too, and it's definitely a for-profit
organization. The US Federal Reserve
is also a privately owned bank. The Federal
Reserve System is what they named it
because they didn't want people to
even be aware that it was a private bank.

They are doing this to us.
They are actually tearing down the United
States in order to begin the Global
Governance and the global taxing and the
global New World Order.
They created the crash in 1929 and they
are creating this crash.
Mr Geitner is a stooge for that Bank,
Just as Mr Bernanke is and Mr Greenspan
was. He is a sock puppet who does and
says what they tell him to do and say.
Ditto George Bush I&II and the so
recently very popular Barack Obama.

The only hope in this world is in
Jesus Christ.
God will laugh at all their plans
from his heavenly throne.
Why do the heathen rage and
the people imagine a vain thing ?
This is about Glenn Beck.

Exposing Glenn Beck's deception. For years on his syndicated radio program, on his TV program that aired on CNN Headline News that is now seen on FOX News, Glenn Beck asks people to be honest and has positioned himself as the one to hold the powerful accountable and expose their lies and deception. Perhaps there is no more deceptive person in the media today other than Oprah, than Glenn Beck. He has a large following due to his radio and TV programs that espouse his conservative political ideology. It is time to expose Glenn Beck and hold him accountable for his lies and deception.

You see, Glenn Beck is a Mormon. Now, I could care less if Beck wants to believes the fairy tales and false theology of that satanic cults murdering, pedophile, and racist found Joey Smith. Beck can believe in the tooth fairy if he wants. The problem lies in the fact that like all members of his satanic cult, Beck promotes himself as and calls himself a Christian. The fact is Mormon doctrine is totally inconsistent with Biblical Christianity and a Mormon is no more a Christian than a Muslim is! The Mormon cult spends tens of millions each year in public relations to deceive people and portray themselves as "just another Christian church," when they are no more a Christian church than your local mosque is!

Have more BB

From Infowars (03/13/09) . . .

Fingerprints Required to Sell Home in Chicago

It is billed as a way to prevent fraud — Chicago and Cook County homeowners will be required to give fingerprints in order to sell their homes. “The new law, which is set to go into effect June 1, 2009, will force anyone selling property in Cook County to provide a thumbprint from their right hand,” reports CBS 2 Chicago.

Chicagoans will pay to have the state intrude on their privacy. “The law specifies that consumers can be charged up to $25 to cover fingerprint processing costs.”

“We’re in favor of it. Fraud has been a big problem for title companies like us. We don’t think it will add too much of a burden on us,” said Joseph Rogul of the Professional National Title Network.

Chicago leads the nation in efforts to strip citizens of their rights.

Earlier in the week, a House committee in Illinois advanced a series of measures designed to increase gun control. “Among the restrictions approved by the House Executive Committee include an assault weapons ban and legislation allowing only one gun purchase a month. Chicago Mayor Richard Daley perennially pushes for such gun crackdowns due to continued violence in some city neighborhoods,” reported the Chicago Tribune.
Just responding to a few things here:

some anonymous poster who sounds familiar but doesn't sign their name anymore said:

"Who in the hell are you to determine who has or has not had a new birth before they are allowed to talk about the New Age movement."

I am not trying to determine who has or doesn't have the new birth, only Abba knows for sure. That's not my job. I do know what Yeshua says, though, " I am the truth the light and the way and no one comes to the Father except by Me" so the new birth without Yeshua is impossible.

Mormons who believe Lucifer is Yeshua's brother, do not know Yeshua. I think this is a no brainer. Muslims who think He is a prophet among all the other prophets, do not know Yeshua. I'l avoid talking about Jews, and cultural "Christians" who use His name but don't KNOW HIm. God knows who belongs to Him, but He gives us guidelines in His Word too, so that we can know.

A different anonymous poster said:

"Joyce, the New Age Movement and Satan are one and the same.

The New Age Movement isn't "new" at all. It goes all the way back to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. When Satan, in the form of a lowly serpent, tempted Eve to eat of the forbidden fruit and promised her, "Ye shall be as Gods.""

I would agree that Satan inspired the New Age Movement just as he inspires Freemasonry, Mormonism and any other number of false believe systems, like Buddhism, Hinduism, in fact all the "isms" which represent "religious" systems. Religion is a counterfeit for relationship. Relationship comes through Yeshua alone.

Now, do I think the New Age is from Satan, yes, but so are other things and those things will also prevent us from seeing the Kingdom of God. A Muslim who sincerely believes they worship the God of Abraham, but believes Ishmael is the son of promise instead of Isaac, from whom comes Yeshua, is deceived. They put up minerets that look like high places all over Israel. They don't call it baal worship, but guess what? They are occupying Temple Mount, do not believe in Yeshua, pray with their backsides toward Jerusalem to Mecca and have a totally different concept of sin.

Do I think they will see the kingdom? Absolutely not! So, to say I want Muslims, Mormons, etc, etc, which is what I was responding to, needs to know about New Age. well.. I would say differently.

Anyone who does not know Yeshua, the living Torah, needs to know Him. If we know Him and know His Word and walk according to the living Torah. Another words, if we take the full counsel of God's Word from Genesis to Revelations as truth and walk by it, we won't have to worry about the New Age movement. Even if they kill our body we will partake of the resurrection with Yeshua, so...

the question is, what is more important, for someone to know about New Age or have eternal life. Now these two things are not mutually exclusive. I can have eternal life and know about the New Age and that's fine, but if I JUST know about the New Age and don't have eternal life.which is what the original post I was responding to said, . who the heck cares. What good is that going to do me?

You have to read comments in their full context and not pick and chose one line out of them. I was responding to someone who said that the most important thing was letting all of these different religious groups know about New Age. I wholeheartedly disagree. The MOST important thing is letting people know about Yeshua, then if you want to warn them like the New Age like Constance does, that's very good, but I don't think Constance would want to see a Mormon just for one example stay Mormon and just avoid New Age.

The reason that we call the gospel the "good news" is because it truly is very good news. Telling me what to avoid, if you don't tell me how to eat of the Tree of LIfe is only part of the story.

I will repost the orginal comment that I responded to:

" I for one will happily stand side by side with Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Mormons, and another person that is fighting against the same enemy for all those that fight against NWO and NAM are on the same hit list.""

The person that wrote this may not realize it but standing side by side with Catholics, Protestants Jews, Muslims, Mormons and any other person, makes you a perfect setup for the One World Religious system "mystery Babylon" speaking of the garden. Do not drink this koolaid.

I hope you see my point.
Just want to call your attention to Holly Pivic's blog this today:

This is a very interesting recent article off of Common Word's website ( the Muslim initiative to join hands with Christians on the heels of the Regensberg incident)

By the way, at the bottom of that article it mentions Tantur Ecumenical Center, which is connected to Heinrich Eliyahu Benedikt's property from Jerusalem Academy, and Friends of Sabeel who mentioned in earlier post, for those who read it:

"2 Dan Madigan’s comments, made to an interfaith gathering at Tantur Ecumenical Institute (Jerusalem) in 2006, edited by James Heft, will be published by Oxford University Press."

You can find the conference at Tantur on this page..


Do you base everything on just your interpretaion of the scriptures? Or do you have a Church?

You sound like you don't belong to any church. Do you or do you not?
Joyce. If you did not notice, the person you keep quoting was someone Constance asked to do her radio show. This person has declined now because of you and said they will not post their information. So you scare off people not help people see the truth. So you do more harm then good.

I was looking forward to their information about the smart grid. So thank for attacking them as you do everyone else and stoping Constance from having someone on her show she wanted.

You will never find anyone that agrees with you completely have you not noticed that yet??? I guess Heaven will be very empty just you and Yeshua.
I'm going to post the word doc. in case you miss it on the last link I sent:

"HOW CAN WE REALLY TALK ABOUT THE MAJOR Issues between IsraelIS and PalestinIANS?

Type of Presentation: Workshop
Length of Presentation: Two sessions of 90 minutes/each, one on Friday, one on Shabbat.

Eliyahu Benedikt, Ph.D.
Director, Jerusalem Peace Academy (Zippori Center, Jerusalem); Club of Budapest
Email: ; ;

Co-Presenter: Swami Ramaswarupananda
Siva-Chidananda Yoga Center, Ganeshpur, Uttarkashi 249193, Himalayas, India

When I participated in the IPCRI Education for Peace Conference in Antalya conference (November 2006), I was pleased by the atmosphere. Still, I felt that something was missing: there seemed to be no possibility of getting into the real issues that shape our lives as Israelis and Palestinians. Why is it that it seems to be so hard to talk about these issues? There is a lot of fear involved. Superficially, we relate nicely to each other; however, when we start sharing our real concerns and thoughts about these issues, we may feel threatened and even abused. Then, in reaction, we become defensive. When we are in a defensive mode, we literally stop listening to the other side. And of course, when we become defensive, we often slip into the aggressive mode.

So, how can we create a situation in which we can sit together and REALLY share our deepest thoughts and feelings without becoming fearful and thus defensive? In this presentation, I wish to offer a way in which we can do that.

Many of us know something about non-violent communication, about compassionate listening, and about accepting the other. But we forget about these fine principles under two situations: a) when we are frightened, and b) when our own egos get in the way. There are so many situations when these things may happen, that it seems clear that dealing with them will requires a continuous process over a long, period time, meetings in which participants are constant and committed. This presentation is only the first of many possible such meetings. Since the IPCRI Peace Education conferences will take place several times each year, this seems to be a fortunate and appropriate venue for continuing this process.

I believe that we must learn to discuss statements and points of view about which we do not agree, even if they seem totally unacceptable, without getting enraged or upset. I suggest that if we can be aware that listening to each others' positions does not require that we agree, we will be able to proceed.

Here, I would like to offer us all the opportunity to talk about the volatile problem of Jerusalem. This issue clearly has repercussions for both Palestinians and Israelis. Yet, we rarely talk about it! Now is our chance. "

I've posted this before but it bears posting again. here is the IPCRI website:

Here's their mission statement:

We concern ourselves with all the major stumbling blocks that divide Israelis and Palestinians:

What is the nature of the final status agreement that the two sides must reach - two states, confederal and power-sharing arrangements, links with Jordan etc.
Where should the borders between the two entities be drawn?
How to solve the intractable question of Jerusalem, the Holy City claimed by two nations and three monotheistic religions?
What should happen to Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip?
How to guarantee the physical security of Israeli and Palestinian citizens against violence perpetrated by extremist opponents of the peace process on both sides?
How to stimulate the economic development of the Palestinian territories in a way beneficial to both sides?
How to solve the dearth of domestic, agricultural and industrial water for in our area?
How to protect our vulnerable environment?
How to educate two traumatized nations toward peaceful coexistence?

This is Baskin's organization. You can see some of his affiliations. He writes often for the Jerusalem Post:

There's someone from Council of American Islamic Relations on the board.

The site links to this:

This is how it gets really dicey. They dialogue and then pray together:

More of the babel religion:

One of their leaders is from Chicago:

IEA is connected to URI, and Parilment of World Religions, but this organization:

Amazing list of people!

which by the way links to Karen Armstrong's Charter for Compassion.

eventually I linked to this which I know we've looked at before. Interesting mix of characters from Orthodox to Prince Hassan of Jordan:

So, with regards to those who think the interfaith movement has nothing to do with the ultimate confusion that is coming .. I would recommend that you take a careful look at these sites and the links.

Watch the film for the youth.

I have no idea who this person is that you are talking about.

Psa. 145:18 The LORD is near to all who call upon Him, To all who call upon Him in truth.

John 15:26 “When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me,

Psa. 95:7 For He is our God, And awe are the people of His pasture and the sheep of His hand. Today, 2if you would hear His voice,

The sheep hear the Good Shepherd's voice:

John 10:3 “To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear ahis voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.

I don't hear through a congregation. As a congregation we grow together in the Scriptures, but we hear His voice by open His Word and studying and praying and seeking Him with all of our hearts.

Deut. 11:13 “It shall come about, aif you listen obediently to my commandments which I am commanding you today, to love the LORD your God and to serve Him with all your heart and all your soul,

This act is individual, and then we do it in community, so of course I have a community. I wouldn't call it "a church" but a community ..

The Ruach HaKodesh leads us in truth. We can only know truth by the Scriptures, then we are part of a body with Yeshua as the head who walk together building one another up in truth.

Here's a description of the body:

Eph. 4:11-16 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the 1saints for the work of service, to the building up of bthe body of Christ; until we all attain to athe unity of the faith, and of the 1bknowledge of the Son of God, to a cmature man, to the measure of the stature 2which belongs to the dfullness of Christ. As a result, we are ano longer to be children, btossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness 2in deceitful scheming; but 1speaking the truthain love, 2we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the chead, even Christ, from whom athe whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.

Just like in this weeks Torah portion it talks about Bezalel and Oholiab who were to build the Tabernacle, in Messiah Yeshua we are each given gifts which we are to use for His glory. The whole body, when it is functioning properly are living stones

1Pet. 2:5 ayou also, as living stones, 1are being built up as a bspiritual house for a holy cpriesthood, to doffer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

Since our body is the Temple of the Ruach HaKodesh, if we are hearing in His voice, we will all be walking in unity, the true unity, not the kind that the religious organizations I mentioned earlier try to fabricate.

The reason this is true unity is because God only has one Spirit and it's not a Spirit of confusion ( babel). We should all be diligent about searching the Scriptures and seeking truth.

If we seek Him with all of our heart ( mind-leb in Hebrew), we will find Him.

Now I belong to a local body, but I am also part of a world wide body of living stones who I have the privilege of meeting sometimes, that He is building up for His glory, but it is completely centered on Yeshua and His Word... .. Yeshua is the head of His ekklesia and we have access to the Father because of Yeshua's death and resurrection.

Hope that answers your question.

One more thing Anonymous:

"You will never find anyone that agrees with you completely have you not noticed that yet??? I guess Heaven will be very empty just you and Yeshua."

You would be surprised that there are actually people that I meet that see things the way I do.. but I am not looking for the agreement of people. I am looking to please my Father, so I put Him first and trust Him to lead me. He is my creator, my redeemer and my ever present help in times of need. He has never left me , abandoned me or forsook me. He always gives me wisdom when I ask for it. He gives me strength, He forgives me, shows me mercy not according to what I deserve, but according to the riches of His grace. I could go on and on about this.. If you don't know Him this way, I would recommend that you cry out to Him and ask Him to lead you, and then you will know the joy of walking in relationship with our Abba Father through Yeshua's completed work on the tree.

As Paul said:

Gal. 1:15-17 But when God, who had set me apart even from my mother’s womb and acalled me through His grace, was pleased
to reveal His Son in me so that I might apreach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with flesh and blood,
nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went away to Arabia, and returned once more to bDamascus.

Paul listend to His voice and we should too. Now if the voice we're hearing conflicts with the written word this is a problem because God will never contradict Himself, but I only affirm what is in Scripture. I don't proclaim my own ideas. If you notice I quote extensively from the Scriptures because without them we are lost and I know this.


You said:

I have no idea who this person is that you are talking about."

Bella said this “statement” that you keep posting. You keep posting it and attacking it and you do not even know who it was from? May be you should take notice of these things before you start lecturing someone. Read back through the posts. You really did not understand what she was saying anyway. You just read a part and ran with it.

Bella said:
There is so much infighting among those against the NWO. The more we fight with each other and pick each other apart the more ground the New World Order and New Age Movement advance on.

{The following sentence is the one you keep using to make your points}

(I for one will happily stand side by side with Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Mormons, and another person that is fighting against the same enemy for all those that fight against NWO and NAM are on the same hit list.)

The NWO and NAM are not as picky as we are. They will just kill us all. Yet we fight so much with each other we forget that part.

I have to say it makes me question if I should participate in blogs and forums at all, there is just too much infighting. I have been happy to see that this thread has not gone the direction of the last one.”

This was Bella’s answer to your attack on what she said:


Thank you for showing me the error of my ways. I will not defend myself as others have done in conversations with you. I will not be a part of infighting. I just will no longer comment on this blog. I have been a silent observer. I should have remained as such.


I have given you a Kathleen name she has great research that is pretty close to mine. She would be a better fit for you radio show that it seems I would.

I wish you the best.

With much respect

5:32 AM

Do you realize that Constance had asked Bella to be on the radio with her last Thursday and Bella was going to go on with her soon????? She now has declined and from what Bella posted you seem to be the major reason! I guess you don’t notice or care how you can negatively affect things. Someone else already wrote about this and encouraged Bella to still post. Saying something about not letting “Joyce” stop her, They said that you did not speak for everyone. Guess what You don’t. I hope Bella reconsiders!

You should go back over what Bella has written on this site regarding the smart grid and internet of things. Constance wanted her to come on the show and because of YOU she is not going to now.

Do you understand why it is not good to just do these long lectures to people? It does the opposite of what you want. It does not bring people to Yeshua. It drives people away from Constance’s site. Many of us wanted to hear what Bella had to say regarding the smart grid and internet of things including CONSTANCE! Go back and read what Constance said and what Bella has said. Bella seemed to be a expert researcher on some really great topics. I think she said she has researched this about as long as Constance, I can not remember exactly but I made a mental note that she has done this research for years. Why else would Constance ask her on her radio show???

I hope you start to realize that more harm can come from your attempts to proclaim truths then good does. There is a time and a place for what you say, but you are not using discretion. You just try to convert everyone to your way and attack everyone that is not exactly in line with you. You are only human, you could be wrong about some points. You also should be respectful of others feelings and thoughts. They have a right to believe what they do as you do with what you believe but you do not give people room to breathe.

I do not think you will listen to this post anymore than you have all the rest of the people that have asked you nicely to stop attacking everyone and just focus on the subject we are all here to talk about the NEW AGE. Do your converting somewhere else. You are hurting this sites purpose. Think before you post.

I wonder how many good posters you have stolen from Constance. Go back through the thread Oldmanoftheski is gone, Rose said she was leaving, now Bella, there was others but I don’t remember who, how many other have to leave before you see what you are doing? How would you feel if you were the only one left on this blog, that may be what happens?
Anon 5:32

Personally, I do not like to read YOUR posts because they are just plain mean. You spend ALOT of time attacking one person named Joyce.

For your information Bella had responded about Smart Grid on a previous topic. I will repost for for you...nowhere do I read she is not doing the show because of Joyce. Perhaps if YOU stop attacking other posters other posters will stop leaving. I for one do miss Grasshopper - she also had a wealth of knowledge that is very much missed by myself. I believe she was also attacked my an Anon poster. I suggest you start using your name. If you can post it, you can surely sign it. Joyce writes what she wants to write - sometimes I may not want to read what a particular poster has to say so I will just scroll past it. Perhaps you can use the same tatic.

These are the very end of days so we Christians need to pull together and fight together and not each other. What's important is that we are washed by the blood of the lamb and are SAVED. I don't care what church you go to and I don't care what church Joyce goes to....myself, I barely go to church but I BELIEVE in JESUS CHRIST and know that I was saved.

Anonymous Bella said...


I am humbled by the offer to come on your show. You are a mentor for me. I feel my research on the smart grid still needs further exploration for me to feel comfortable expressing it on the air. The pieces are just coming together for me. I will be happy to post things as I find them. Once I am confident my data is more complete I would be honored to consider your kind request.

The areas I have researched for decades are similar to yours. I research the big picture and plans of the occult and the grass-roots movements of the occult. They are becoming the spiritually and politically-correct view in the world. I tend to focus on and research the popular authors of today, what they are teaching and how they are changing the very fabric of our society, things like the law of attraction and the effect that it has had on society and all the self-help (self-focused-Prideful) movements that have become the norm today. I also look at the proponents like Oprah; she is working hard on the spiritual and political sides of the “Plan”.

I try to see everything from the big picture then break it down in areas that most affect us, tracing all of it back to the original occult teachings.

I look at social trends that have been leading us purposely down the occult path since the beginning of time. I watch for all the many ways that Lucifer appears as an angel of light to the world.

In looking at the whole plan of Lucifer I see it within the context of pride verses humility. “Thy will not mine” or “My will not Thine”. From this vantage point you can better perceive what is occult in nature and what is not. When you also look at it from force or free will that also shows which side it comes from.

My area of expertise is not the smart grid. I stumbled onto it along with the Internet of Things when looking into the areas of surveillance and control. From all appearances, the smart grid and the internet of things may go hand in hand and at one point be the same meter. Due to their possible far reaching implications I have been trying to understand the capacity of both regarding their possible future use and the consequences thereof.

I feel we have been systematically stripped of our desire and comfort level for privacy so we can be controlled via these kinds of technology. From talk-shows sharing our dirty laundry, reality TV, face-book, Google, unconditional love of the new age preached and many other things are slowly conditioning us to not feel we need privacy. So when it comes to the internet of things we will embrace it. We will look at it like it is just an upgrade of technology, not see it for what it is. But it will completely control us. We have become desensitized to the loss of privacy in order to make us willing to embrace the “oneness” of the occult and its government. We will accept the unconditional love and non-judgmental attitudes of the occult and all the new wonderful technology of “oneness” that goes with it. It is just like the story of boiling a frog, if you put it in pot of hot water it would jump out, if you put it in a pot of tepid water and slowly turn up the heat he will sit there until he is boiled to death. I feel that is where we are at. We are almost cooked. The occult and new world order have their ducks in a row, and most do not know what their ducks look like or how they quack!

Thank you for the offer to join you on the radio. I want to make sure I have enough verified data to be worthy of sharing and fully exposing it.

If you want to discuss an overview of my research I would be willing to talk with you in private at first and see if there was anything you wanted to use on your radio show. But at this point I do not feel I have enough on just this one subject to focus a show on. I have data on all kinds of subjects but not enough on this one as of yet. But I am working on it!

Daniel Brandt
March 14, 2009

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I too, have never posted until now because of Joyce. I have followed Constance for a while and have plenty of my own information to share but, have chosen not to do so in order to keep Joyce from shoving her 'beliefs' down my throat if the informaiton I have doesn't fall in line with her personal religion! If I want a sermon, I'll go to my 'community'/church. If I want to know what the Word of God says, I'll get my Bible out and read it...I don't want, nor do I need, 'The Gospel according to Joyce'. I want information regarding the NAM from Constance...not a daily scripture reading from the Prophetess Joyce.
Constance, PLEASE, do something about her! Can't you see how damaging Joyce has been and continues to be to your life long work of getting out information on NAM?! I was anxious to hear Bella's research as well and now, even her work will go unheard.
Joyce, GET YOUR OWN BLOG! They're really easy to set up; then you can preach to whomever WANTS to visit you there and hear you...which obviously would be no one and this is the exact reason why you must piggy-back on Constance!
Bella, Rose,

Please continue to post here!!!

I myself am a slow learner, but iv found over time that its best to "never say never". Unless of course your saying no to sin. Other wise your kind of swearing off something, usually under emotion, that may limit you in the future from something that God would perhaps want you to do?

Bella, please don't be offended at Joyce. She does stand firm on the Word, and makes valid posts that are centered on the scriptures.

I'm sure her intent was not to "correct the error of your ways". But to point out how Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Mormons etc., can be themselves "leavened" with New Age ideals.

So please bless us with your continued presence here at this blog!!!
Paul, I completely agree with you. The system is already set in place and we are slowly being conditioned to accept it, this is why buzz words such as "global, world currency", "New World Order", "global government", are being used much more frequently, when it's all formally announced the "shock" won't be so great.

I also agree that we are watching mere puppets do the bidding of their puppet masters. This can get so frustrating, it's a constant bait and switch and few people ever get to the root of the problem. The real group of men calling the shots do their evil coniving under cover of dark and are NEVER held accountable.

Here is my two cent re: Glen Beck and other "Conservative" talk show host. Politically speaking, (not theologically) the greatest threat to the NWO is the Conservative base, unfortunately, they (as I used to) depend on such leaders as Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck to be their watchdogs.

We have a two headed snake, one head is the Republican Party, the other the Democrat Party, the body is the NWO. One head beats the other head, while the body slithers us ever closer over the cliff. Their biggest threat, Patriotic Conservatives, are never directed by their leaders (Hannity and others) to see the real problem, they never point out who the snake really is, hence, people continue in their ignorance.

The other day, Beck said in a morning talk show with Fox and Friends, he is really worried about FEMA camps and can't disprove them.....everyone starts biting their nails. Then on his afternoon show, he chuckles and says "folks, I don't really believe FEMA camps exist", the public then sighs with relief and dismisses the notion from their minds, afterall, they can trust Glen.

I don't know if this is a game with Beck or if he simply responds when the executives pull his chain, afterall, he is gaining tremendous notariety and wealth. I know he seems sincere, but (in my opinion), he, like the other Conservatives NEVER go to the root of the problem.


In the words of David Rockefeller, June 1991, speaking at the Bildeberger meeting in Baden, Germany:
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years … It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in past centuries."

In the end, God is without a doubt in control, His sense of justice is far greater than ours, and someday, He will make everything right, no trial or jury will be needed. We can rest in His Sovereignty.

I love the words to "A Mighty Fortress Is Our God", one verse inparticular seems appropriate here.

"And though this world, with devils filled, should threaten to undo us,
We will not fear, for God hath willed His truth to triumph through us:
The Prince of Darkness grim, we tremble not for him;
His rage we can endure, for lo, his doom is sure, ONE LITTLE WORD SHALL FELL HIM!

The whole dialectic process, is were the enemy has done his most damage in these latter decades of this age.

It allows for creation of ideals, and their contrived ends, over a God, and His will, and Word.

We know Who has the last laugh, and the last word!!!
Google's new 'tool' is through their program picassa. Face recognition for your own family photos which google 'stores' for you on their server. Check out the story on Fox News.
Yes, all those who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit, love to "interFace" with their tower building comrades.
Yahushua has a 'tool' for the tower builders.

Its called a "rod of Iron"!!!
Glen Beck et al reminds me of a scene in
an old WWII movie where the Japanese
soldiers were calling out into the jungle
saying "come on out GI Joe! come on out
it's okey we won't hurt you. We are your
friends now", etc etc , until one starving
soldier gives up and comes out of the
bushes_ and gets gunned down.

I myself was all enthused about Ron
Paul back in July or so. Then I found
out that he's a Freemason. (Sigh)
You're right Jaclyn, it's a well orchestrated
(and very well documented) hoax, or as
Yvonne says, coup, right
down to the fore planning of what to
do when the natives finally wake up.

Rule, Jehovah !
Good thing I ate my Wheaties! Looks like some tough bloggin' already this mornin'! :-)

Here's to gearing up for today's journey!

By His Grace,
To Anonymous (10:09 AM):

Unfortunately for us, Joyce doesn't want her own blog. She wants to stay here and disrupt ours. That is what she hss been sent to do. It has become her mission in life.
Yes, Shem1777 (10:22 AM):

And some of us would like to "leaven" Joyce. LOL

I stumbled accross this and found it quite interesting...I copied and pasted parts of the article below, here is the link to the full article,
Now, as Benedict xvi prepares for his upcoming visit to Israel, the Palestinian territories and Jordan this May—a tour incorporating his first visit to Israel since being elected pope—it is crucial that the Vatican agenda for the city of Jerusalem be publicized.

Back in the mid-1990s, a statement made by Pope John Paul ii during an interview in his native Poland, broadcast in Italian over a Polish radio station, was noted by one of our Italian associates. She sent us a transcript of the interview, which included one particularly startling reference made by the pope regarding the Vatican’s ultimate goal of transferring its headquarters from Rome to Jerusalem.
Do you have any thoughts on this?
Bella -

Thank you for the info on . I just switched my homepage to that sit. I must admit - I did love google but like I have mentioned in a previous post. I am certain that one day my googles would be used against me.
Joyce is no different than David Koresh, Jim Jones, any cult leader or any of the televangelist preachers. She lays a guilt trip, suppposedly aligns herself with God, and puts herself in the center of the message. They are all "doing God's work" of course. The big questions is why she feels it necessary to God's work on Constance's blog when there are so many other websites with sinners. Maybe she thinks there are a load of sinners here who need her leads to redemption.
Yep! The people that come to this site do not need to be "Saved" by Joyce. We want to be left alone in our "salvation". We will do it ourselves. I don't want to join the "Church of Joyce" I will be saved by Christ not Joyce's ideas of Christ.

I want to talk about the New age, not the Church of Joyce. That needs to be preached some where else.
If people have specific criticisms of Joyce's teachings they are free to make them here. Ditto for Joyce and her criticisms of others. But I INSIST THE NASTY, CRUEL, PERSONAL TONE STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It so reminds me of cruel playground teasing I caught in Fort Wayne, Indiana schools in the 1950's!

Joyce is absolutely right,but I have a deeper thought. I think no one should pursue studying the New Age movement unless they have a bowl of chicken soup every day. Chicken soup is good for the soul. Unless one is in a relaxed state of mind, ready to absorb the details of what is going on without being overly excited, no study should go on. Studying the New Age movement is totally unnecessary if one has chicken soup because chicken soup is really part of the Jewish cultural food experience so if a person has chicken soup, they do not need to study the New Age movement but can if they want to.

I make a lot of chicken soup and eat it, so I know what I'm talking about.

I intend to talk a lot about chicken soup, chickens, broth, carrots, parsley, dumplings, matzos balls (the best way to make them), because I feel so strongly about chicken soup.

I hope no one is offended by my passion.
Constance, you are right to some extent. No one should criticize Joyce and her message style, but instead take the time to argue against her message. You need to extend that idea to responding to every part of the New Age movement. In a perfect world no one should criticize Tolle, Warren, Hubbard, or other New Age leader unless they are able to carefully respond to each message presented by them. The problem is that if this was necessary, there would be no one posting on this blog. Often the sum total of the message and the style used by individuals and the organizational message they present is worthy of attack without a careful analysis of each and every message they present.

Even you are weak in this area. Instead of overall criticizing Solana, why don't you carefully analyze his words and present a coherent response to what is being said each and every time you criticize his presentation. Instead of just reporting what he is saying and assuming that it is a negative New Age message, why don't you each and every time give a careful analysis of why what he is promoting is wrong.

This is a different Anonymous....

What is upsetting people about Joyce is she writes long posts calling people to repentance that don’t need it. She is not having a conversations with people it is a one sided lecture. No one lectures her; they just ask her not to lecture them. Is that so wrong to ask?

It is not that we really disagree with what she is saying; it is that she lectures us wrongly all the time. She jumps to conclusions and starts blasting away.

We are begging for new age information from your site, not indoctrination into Joyce's religion whatever that is.

I do not care what she believes and have no interest in changing her. But lecturing non-stop on your site is her mission in life. Why can she not take that somewhere else? May be we should start lecturing long long post of every thought we have doctrinally, every idea in our heads like she does. Your threads will be so long of scripture and thoughts that no one will find the anti-new age data posted in. I don’t do that because I actually do care (unlike Joyce) that the message against the new age is heard above my personal revelations. I want your information out there so I don’t do what Joyce does. If she would keep it to the new age it would be great. Why is that something you are not willing to do? She is damaging you site. People are leaving and not coming back is that what you want? I am afraid to send anyone to your site because of Joyce.

People that admire you and come here for you, are starting to throw the baby out with the bathwater. (baby is you, bath water is Joyce)

Why do you not just ask her to focus on the new age? Do you want these kinds of hurt feeling allowed on your site?

We are not evil people picking on Joyce we just want her not to pick on us. Why is that wrong to ask? I do not feel it is completely our responsibility to defend ourselves if we do we will ruin your site with stupid useless posts.

Joyce is your thorn; she drives people away at your expense and with your acceptance. I am not mad at you Constance just disappointed that this is how it is.

It gets to the point we think why should we post anything here? Why should we subject ourselves to the wrath of Joyce? Why should we give our knowledge, research and information when Joyce is not stopped from hurting people? Do you care we are hurt? Why do people have to cry, beg and plead to be treated with respect and Christ-like Charity on your site? Are we not important to you anymore?

Disillusioned poster
Disillusioned poster

"Joyce is your thorn; she drives people away at your expense and with your acceptance"

Joyce is one of the reasons this comment section remains interesting. She is civil, doctrinal sound and persisting. If you don't like her comments then skip them, it's as simple as that.

The main reason the new age CAN be exposed is BECAUSE of scripture. So scripture should be included. Constance doesn't emphasize scripture, i am glad Joyce does.

You are wrong. Chicken soup is what is needed in the world. There is even a book called Chicken Soup for the Soul. Here is information about that book.

e've put together some of our favorite and inspiring sayings and pearls of wisdom that we've come across in our own processes of recovery and growth. We've found these helpful as we've each grappled with life's challenges and opportunities for ongoing healing - both psychologically and spiritually. We share these with you now in the hope that you'll enjoy them, and leave this Web page feeling good about yourself and about life!

A Collection of Wise Sayings
On Being in Touch with Our Inner Child
On Being in Touch with Our Higher Power
On Contentment
On Worry
Our Deepest Fear
On Patience
On Commitment
On Being Responsible
On Learning To Do Better
On Right Action
On Pain
On Living with a Full Heart
No Problem Lasts Forever
On Fear
God's Jobs
The Secrets of Heaven and Hell
Symptoms of Inner Peace
The Rules for Being Human
The Illusion of Perfect Parents
What is Maturity?
Pearls of Wisdom from Helen Keller
Some Native American Wisdom
How A Child Learns
Words of Psychological and Spiritual Wisdom from Dick Olney
Other People's Expectations
Turning It Over to Higher Power
On Being Happy and Serving Others
The Essence of All Being
A Prayer for Peace, Growth, and Recovery
A Collection of Wise Sayings

"We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time." -- T.S. Eliot

"Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well but the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out." -- Vaclav Havel

"If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now -- when?" -- Hillel

"Come my friends, 'tis not too late to seek a newer world." -- Tennyson

"If you understand, things are just as they are; if you do not understand, things are just as they are." -- Zen proverb

"If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, 'thank you,' that would suffice." -- Meister Eckhart

"There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." -- Albert Einstein

"We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances." -- Victor Frankl

"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards." -- Unknown

"The shell must break before the bird can fly." -- Tennyson

"Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes." -- Carl Jung

"The years teach much that the days never know." -- Emerson

"If you bring forth what is within you, it will heal you. And if you do not bring forth what is within you, it will destroy you." (from the Gospel of St. Thomas)

"Go to your bosom: Knock there, and ask your heart what it doth know." -- William Shakespeare

"The intellect has little to do on the road to discovery. There comes a leap in consciousness, call it intuition or what you will, and the solution comes to you and you don't know how or why." -- Albert Einstein

"The only ones among you who will be really happy are those who will have sought and found how to serve." -- Albert Schweitzer

"The difference between a smart person and a wise person is that a smart person knows what to say and a wise person knows whether or not to say it." -- Quote found on the wall of a recreation center office in Berkeley, California.

"Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get." -- Dave Gardner

"We do not see things as they are; we see things as we are." -- Talmud

"Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. " -- Helen Keller

"This is the true joy in life: the being used for a purpose recognized by yourself as a mighty one; the being a force of nature instead of a feverish, selfish little clod of ailments and grievances complaining that the world will not devote itself to making you happy. I am of the opinion that my life belongs to the whole community, and as long as I live, it is my privilege to do for it whatever I can. I want to be thoroughly used up when I die, for the harder I work the more I live. I rejoice in life for its own sake. Life is no 'brief candle' to me. It is a sort of splendid torch which I have got hold of for the moment, and I want to make it burn as brightly as possible before handing it on to future generations." -- George Bernard Shaw

"Until one is committed, there is hesitancy, the chance to draw back, always ineffectiveness. Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation) there is one elementary truth, the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then Providence moves too. All sorts of things occur to help one that would never otherwise have occurred. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents and meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamed would have come his way. I have learned a deep respect for one of Goethe's couplets:
Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it.
Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it. "

-- W.H. Murray, The Scottish Himalayan Expedition

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On Being in Touch with Our Inner Child

"There is an innocence within me that already knows how to trust my Higher Power, to cherish life while holding it lightly, to live fully and simply in the present moment. I will allow that part of myself to come forward and nourish me as I continue on this journey."
(from Courage to Change: One Day at a Time in Al-Anon II, page 82). Reprinted with permission of Al-Anon Family Group Headquarters, Inc., Virginia Beach, VA

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On Being in Touch with Our Higher Power

"There is guidance for each of us, and by lowly listening, we shall hear the right word. Certainly there is a right for you that needs no choice on your part. Place yourself in the middle of the stream of power and wisdom which flows into your life. Then, without effort, you are impelled to truth and to perfect contentment." --Ralph Waldo Emerson

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On Contentment

"Contentment is not the fulfillment of what you want, but the realization of how much you already have." --Unknown

Content: A Poem

I should be content
to look at a mountain
for what it is
and not as a comment
on my life
--David Ignatow

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On Worry

A thousand reasons for worry,
A thousand reasons for anxiety
Oppress day after day
the fool,
But not the wise man.
-- Hitopadesa of Narayana

"Do your best. Then, don't worry, be happy."
-- Meher Baba

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Our Deepest Fear

"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, “Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?” Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we're liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others." -- Marianne Williamson

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On Patience

"I remembered one morning when I discovered a cocoon in a bark of a tree, just as a butterfly was making a hole in its case and preparing to come out. I waited awhile, but it was too long appearing and I was impatient. I bent over it and breathed on it to warm it. I warmed it as quickly as I could and the miracle began to happen before my eyes, faster than life.

The case opened, the butterfly started slowly crawling out and I shall never forget my horror when I saw how its wings were folded back and crumpled; the wretched butterfly tried with its whole trembling body to unfold them. Bending over it I tried to help it with my breath. In vain.

It needed to be hatched out patiently and the unfolding of its wings should be a gradual process in the sun. Now it was too late. My breath had forced the butterfly to appear, all crumpled, before its time. It struggled desperately and, a few seconds later, died in the palm of my hand.

The little body is, I do believe, the greatest weight I have on my conscience, for I realize today that it is a mortal sin to violate the great laws of nature. We should not hurry, we should not be impatient, but we should confidently obey the eternal rhythm."
(from Zorba the Greek, by Nikos Kazantzakis)

"Improving our own attitudes and our own state of mind takes time. Haste and impatience can only defeat our purposes."
(from This is Al-Anon, quoted in Courage to Change, page 93). Reprinted with permission of Al-Anon Family Group Headquarters, Inc., Virginia Beach, VA

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On Commitment

"Until one is committed, there is hesitancy, the chance to draw back, always ineffectivness. Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth, the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then Providence moves, too. All sorts of things occur to help one that would never otherwise have occurred. The whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents and meetings and material his way. I have learned a deep respect for one of Goethe's couplets: 'Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it.'"
(from W.H. Murray, "The Scottish Himalayan Expedition")

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On Being Responsible

"I came to Al-Anon confused about what was and was not my responsibility. Today, after lots of Step work, I believe I am responsible for the following:

• to be loyal to my values
• to please myself first
• to rid myself of anger and resentment
• to express my ideas and feelings instead of stuffing them
• to attend Al-Anon meetings and keep in touch with friends in the fellowship
• to be realistic in my expectations
• to make healthy choices
• to be grateful for my blessings

I also have certain responsibilities to others:

• to extend a welcome to newcomers
• to be of service
• to recognize that others have a right to live their own lives
• to listen, not just with my ears, but also with my heart
• to share my joy as well as my sorrow"
(from Courage to Change, One Day at a Time in Al-Anon II, page 85). Reprinted with permission of Al-Anon Family Group Headquarters, Inc., Virginia Beach, VA

"I have a primary responsibility to myself: to make myself into the best person I can possibly be. Then, and only then, will I have something worthwhile to share."
(from Living with Sobriety)

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On Learning to Do Better

I walk down the street.
There is a hole.
I don't see it.
I fall in.
It isn't my fault.
It takes a very long time to get out.

I walk down the same street.
There is still a deep hole.
I pretend not to see it.
I fall in.
I pretend it's still not my fault.
It takes a long time to get out.

I walk down the same street.
There is still the same deep hole.
I see it.
I fall in anyway.
It's a habit.
I get out quicker this time.

I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole.
I see it.
I walk around it.
I don't fall in.

I walk down a different street.

-- Portia Nelson

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On Right Action

"Codes of ethics are most often associated with prohibitions: Don't do this, don't do that. All the spiritual traditions I know have more or less the same lists of don'ts. This makes sense, since all the don'ts elaborate on the awareness that if we are not alert, our naturally arising impulses of greed and anger might lead us to do something exploitive or abusive. The fundamental rule is, 'Don't cause pain.'

Traditional Buddhist texts, when they talk about Right Action, use the terms hiri and ottappa, usually translated as 'moral shame' and 'moral dread.' Shame and dread have ominous overtones in English, but I rather like these terms. I appreciate the sense of awesome responsibility they are meant to convey. Collectively, what they mean is that every single act we do has the potential of causing pain, and every single thing we do has consequences that echo way beyond what we can imagine. It doesn't mean we shouldn't act. It means we should act carefully. Everything matters."

(from It's Easier Than You Think: The Buddhist Way to Happiness, by Sylvia Boorstein, page 41. Published by Harper San Francisco)

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On Pain

"They say that pain is inevitable but suffering is optional. If I learn to accept that pain is part of life, I will be better able to endure the difficult times and then move on, leaving the pain behind me."
(from Courage to Change: One Day At A Time in Al-Anon II, page 83). Reprinted with permission of Al-Anon Family Group Headquarters, Inc., Virginia Beach, VA

"...When we long for life without...difficulties, remind us that oaks grow strong in contrary winds and diamonds are made under pressure." -- Peter Marshall

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On Living With A Full Heart

When one is too hurt one cannot see others' pain, is too blind with one's own.
When one has many weights to lift, one cannot enjoy life.
When one has many expectations, one cannot be patient with others.
When one has fear, one cannot enjoy life.
When one does not give, one is making the heart lonely.
When one does not take, one is making the heart feel inferior
When one does not hope, one is shutting oneself into a tight closet.
But when one does not love, one is killing one's self.

(written by 12-year old Olivia, Berkeley, California, 2/12/02)

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No Problem Lasts Forever

No problem lasts forever. No matter how permanently fixed in the center of our lives it may seem, whatever we experience in this ever-changing life is sure to pass. Even pain.

Difficult situations often bring out qualities in us that otherwise might not have risen to the surface, such as courage, faith, and our need for one another. All of our experiences can help us to grow.

But we may need patience. Some wounds cannot be healed quickly. They must be given time. In the meantime, we can appreciate the new capabilities we are developing, such as the capacity to mourn and the willingness to accept. Let us share our losses and triumphs with each other, for that is how we gather courage.
(From Courage to Change: One Day at A Time in Al-Anon II, page 77). Reprinted with permission of Al-Anon Family Group Headquarters, Inc., Virginia Beach, VA

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On Fear

"We have two kinds of fears. One is a fear that whatever is going on is going to go on forever. It’s just not true -- nothing goes on forever. The other is the fear that, even if it doesn’t go on forever, the pain of whatever is happening will be so terrible we won’t be able to stand it. There is a gut level of truth about this fear. It would be ridiculous to pretend that in our lives, in these physical bodies, which can hurt very much, and in relationships that can hurt very much, there aren’t some very, very painful times. Even so, I think we underestimate ourselves. Terrible as times may be, I believe we can stand them.

"Because we become frightened as soon as a difficult mind state blows into the mind, we start to fight with it. We try to change it, or we try to get rid of it. The frenzy of the struggle makes the mind state even more unpleasant.

"The familiar image is a children’s cartoon character, like Daffy Duck, walking along freely and suddenly stepping into taffy. In a hasty, awkward attempt to extricate himself, he might fall forward and backward and eventually be totally stuck in the taffy. Even children see a better solution.

"The best solution would be the nonalarmed recognition, ‘This is taffy. I didn’t see it as I stepped into it, but I felt it after I got stuck. It’s just taffy. The whole world is not made out of taffy. What would be a wise thing for me to do now?'"
(from It's Easier Than You Think: The Buddhist Way to Happiness, by Sylvia Boorstein, page 71. Published by Harper San Francisco)

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God's Jobs

An eight year old wrote this for his third-grade Sunday school teacher, who asked her students to explain God:

One of God's main jobs is making people. He makes these to put in the place of the ones who die so there will be enough people to take care of things here on earth. He doesn't make grownups, he just makes babies. I think because they are smaller and easier to make. That way he doesn't have to take up his valuable time teaching them to walk and talk. He can just leave that up to the mothers and fathers. I think it works out pretty good.

God's second most important job is listening to prayers. An awful lot of this goes on, 'cause some people, like preachers and things, pray other times besides bedtimes, and Grandpa and Grandma pray every time they eat, except for snacks. God doesn't have time to listen to the radio and watch TV on account of this. 'Cause God hears everything, there must be a terrible lot of noise in his ears unless he has thought of a way to turn it down.

God sees and hears everything and is everywhere, which keeps him pretty busy. So you shouldn't go wasting his time asking for things that aren't important, or go over parents' heads and ask for something they said you couldn't have. It doesn't work anyway.

(From A Third Serving of Chicken Soup for the Soul, by Jack Canfield and Mark Victor Hansen. Published by Health Communications, Deerfield Beach, Florida. To order, call 1-800-441-5569)

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The Secrets of Heaven and Hell

The old monk sat by the side of the road. With his eyes closed, his legs crossed and his hands folded in his lap, he sat. In deep meditation he sat.

Suddenly his zazen was interrupted by the harsh and demanding voice of a samurai warrior. "Old man! Teach me about heaven and hell!"

At first, as though he had not heard, there was no perceptible response from the monk. But gradually he began to open his eyes, the faintest hint of a smile playing around the corners of his mouth as the samurai stood there, waiting impatiently, growing more and more agitated with each passing second.

"You wish to know the secrets of heaven and hell?" replied the monk at last. "You who are so unkempt. You whose hands and feet are covered with dirt. You whose hair is uncombed, whose breath is foul, whose sword is all rusty and neglected. You who are ugly and whose mother dresses you funny. You would ask me of heaven and hell?"

The samurai uttered a vile curse. He drew his sword and raised it high over his head. His face turned to crimson, and the veins of his neck stood out in bold relief as he prepared to sever the monk's head from its shoulders.

"That is hell," said the old monk gently, just as the sword began its descent.

In that fraction of a second, the samurai was overcome with amazement, awe, compassion and love for this gentle being who had dared to risk his very life to give him such a teaching. He stopped his sword in mid-flight and his eyes filled with grateful tears.

"And that," said the monk, "is heaven."

(From A Third Serving of Chicken Soup for the Soul, by Jack Canfield and Mark Victor Hansen. Published by Health Communications, Deerfield Beach, Florida. To order, call 1-800-441-5569)

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Symptoms of Inner Peace

Be on the lookout for symptoms of inner peace. The hearts of a great many have already been exposed to inner peace and it is possible that people everywhere could come down with it in epidemic proportions. This could pose a serious threat to what has, up to now, been a fairly stable condition of conflict in the world.

Some signs and symptoms of inner peace:

• A tendency to think and act spontaneously rather than on fears based on past experiences.
• An unmistakable ability to enjoy each moment.
• A loss of interest in judging other people.
• A loss of interest in interpreting the actions of others.
• A loss of interest in conflict.
• A loss of the ability to worry. (This is a very serious symptom).
• Frequent, overwhelming episodes of appreciation.
• Contented feelings of connectedness with others and nature.
• Frequent attacks of smiling.
• An increasing tendency to let things happen rather than make them happen.
• An increased susceptibility to the love extended by others as well as the uncontrollable urge to extend it.

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The Rules for Being Human

1. You will receive a body. You may like it or hate it, but it will be yours for the entire period this time around.
2. You will learn lessons. You are enrolled in a fulltime informal school called life. Each day in this school you will have the opportunity to learn lessons. You may like the lessons or think them irrelevant and stupid.
3. There are no mistakes, only lessons. Growth is a process of trial and error, experimentation. The "failed" experiments are as much a part of the process as the experiment that ultimately "works."
4. A lesson is repeated until learned. A lesson will be presented to you in various forms until you have learned it. When you have learned it, you can go on to the next lesson.
5. Learning lessons does not end. There is no part of life that does not contain its lessons. If you are alive there are lessons to be learned.
6. "There" is no better than "here." When your "there" has become a "here" you will simply obtain another "there" that will again look better than "here."
7. Others are merely mirrors of you. You cannot love or hate something about another person unless it reflects to you something you love or hate about yourself.
8. What you make of your life is up to you. You have all the tools and resources you need. What you do with them is up to you. The choice is yours.
9. Your answers lie inside you. The answer to life's questions lie inside you. All you need to do is look, listen, and trust.
10. This will often be forgotten, only to be remembered again.
(Cherie Carter-Scott)

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The Illusion of Perfect Parents

"It is a universal part of the human condition that we must heal wounds from our past. The illusion of perfect parents must eventually give way to the realities of who our parents are as concrete individuals. Their limitations invariably become our own, in one way or another, and their struggles with identity and self-esteem become the stumbling blocks that we find in our own lives. This is the human condition.

"Children of alcoholics teach us about the very nature of being human. Their experience reminds us that self-esteem is not innate but rather comes from being valued by people who value themselves."

(Timmen Cermak, M.D., quoted in New Realities magazine, November/December 1988, page 46).

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What is Maturity?

• Knowing myself.
• Asking for help when I need it and acting on my own when I don't.
• Admitting when I'm wrong and making amends.
• Accepting love from others, even if I'm having a tough time loving myself.
• Recognizing that I always have choices, and taking responsibility for the ones I make.
• Seeing that life is a blessing.
• Having an opinion without insisting that others share it.
• Forgiving myself and others.
• Recognizing my shortcomings and my strengths.
• Having the courage to live one day at a time.
• Acknowledging that my needs are my responsibility.
• Caring for people without having to take care of them.
• Accepting that I'll never be finished -- I'll always be a work-in-progress.

(from Courage to Change: One Day At a Time in Al-Anon, page 63. Reprinted with permission of Al-Anon Family Group Headquarters, Inc., Virginia Beach, VA)

Comes the Dawn
After awhile you learn the subtle difference
Between holding a hand and chaining a soul.
And you learn that love doesn't mean leaning
And company doesn't mean security.
And you begin to understand that kisses aren't contracts
And presents aren't promises,
And you begin to accept your defeats
With your head held high and your eyes wide open.
With the grace of a woman, not the grief of a child.
You learn to build your roads
On today because tomorrow's ground
Is too uncertain for plans, and futures have
A way of falling down in midflight.
After awhile you learn that even sunshine
Burns if you get too much.
So you plant your own garden and decorate
Your own soul, instead of waiting
For someone to bring you flowers.
And you learn that you really can endure,
That you really are strong.
And you really do have worth.
And you learn and learn...and you learn
With every goodbye you learn.
(Veronica A. Shoffstall)

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Pearls of Wisdom from Helen Keller

"Everything has its wonders, even darkness and silence, and I learn, whatever state I may be in, therein to be content." -- Helen Keller

"Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." -- Helen Keller

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Some Native American Wisdom

A Native American elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner:

"Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time."

When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment and replied, "The one I feed the most."

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How A Child Learns

If a child lives with criticism, he learns to condemn.
If a child lives with hostility, she learns to fight.
If a child lives with ridicule, he learns to be shy.
If a child lives with shame, she learns to feel guilty.
If a child lives with tolerance, he learns to be patient.
If a child lives with encouragement, she learns confidence.
If a child lives with praise, he learns to appreciate.
If a child lives with fairness, she learns justice.
If a child lives with security, he learns to have faith.
If a child lives with approval, she learns to like herself.
If a child lives with acceptance and friendship, he learns to find love in the world.
(Dorothy Law Nolte)
Do not criticize me for posting the information. Argue with me about the content.
For all here, As much as I dislike all the long long posts of many, including Joyce. Joyce is doing you all a favor, she preaches, lectures or whatever non stop, she attackes all religions at their core beginings, sometimes truth sometimes not, and sometimes just old arguements and stereotypes. She causes you to read the histories and the truths of your own religions, she is hardening you all to be soldiers of your christ, to be able to argue openly for your faith and for your christ.
The times ahead will be frot with attacks from new age, and from secular society. You are being prepared for the fight.
You say she does not indulge you to argue back, she is not fair, she is lieing about your faith.This is exactly how the new age will fight you also. Perhaps she is an agent, I say if she is you should use her for all that you can, PREPARE YOURSELVES PEOPLE. God has given you a tool here to practice with, and I doubt this petty bickering is considered a worthy fight, nor is the pleas to Constance to save you. PREPARE YOURSELVES PEOPLE TO FIGHT WITH INTELLECT AND KNOWLEDGE NOT EMOTION, AS THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO GET EMOTIONAL.
Anyway, from a Noahide, this is what I see, looking from the outside in. Just my thoughts!!!

Yvonne, the truth is we need chicken soup in us before we fight the New Age movement. I am telling you this for your own good if you do not already know it.

There are many different kinds of chicken soup. I like all of them. I just don't like people who don't like chicken soup and prefer candy that's bad for you. Of course there are many different kinds of chicken soup and you can use this as an opportunity to argue which kind is best. I'm doing you that favor.

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Harvest Chicken Chowder
Diana Rattray
Chicken and apple sausage and apple cider help to flavor this tasty chicken chowder.

* 2 tablespoons olive oil
* 1 cup diced onion
* 1 cup diced celery
* 8 to 12 ounces diced chicken apple sausage
* 1 cup apple cider
* 2 1/2 cups chicken broth
* 1 cup diced carrot
* 2 cups diced potato
* 1 cup diced cooked chicken
* 1 cup corn kernels
* 2 1/2 cups milk
* 1/2 cup all-purpose flour
* 2 cups shredded sharp Cheddar cheese
* 1 tablespoon fresh chopped parsley, or 1 teaspoon dried parsley flakes
* Salt and pepper, to taste

Heat olive oil in a large saucepan or Dutch oven; add chopped onion, celery, and diced sausage. Cook over medium heat, stirring, until onion and celery are wilted and sausage is lightly browned. Add the juice, chicken broth, carrots, and potatoes. Bring to a boil over high heat. Reduce heat to medium-low and cover; simmer for 30 minutes, or until vegetables are tender. Add the corn and chicken.

In a medium bowl, whisk 1 cup of the milk with the 1/2 cup of flour. Stir into the pot with the remaining 1 1/2 cups of milk. Cook, stirring, until thickened. Stir in cheese until melted and the chowder is hot. Add parsley and salt and pepper, to taste.
Quote Joyce: "Yeshua is the Lord over Shabat"

A logical analysis (found here: (the only legitimate Netzarim)) of the earliest manusscripts (including the logical implications of the research by Ben-Gurion Univ. Prof. of Linguistics Elisha Qimron of Dead Sea Scroll 4Q MMT)) of “the gospel of Matthew”, implies that Ribi Yehoshua was a Perushi (Pharisee). Ribi Yehoshua ha-Mashiakh (the Messiah) from Nazareth was called a Ribi and only the Perushim (Pharisees) had Ribis.

The current earliest manuscripts of “the gospel of Matthew” contains words a first century Ribi would never have said, and thus a reconstruction is needed.
[Even according to the most authoritative Christian scholars, e.g., The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, NT contains redactions (see quote from that book in the above website; click on "Glossaries"; click on "NT")]

Paqid Yirmeyahu Ben David made a reconstruction named Netzarim Reconstruction of Hebrew Matityahu, using a logical and scientific methodology. That is an essential read for those whom want to know what Ribi Yehoshua actually taught and didn’t teach.

The original verse redacted to what is quoted above, is: “If you knew what Hosheia 6:6 is – ‘For I desire khesed, not sacrifice-making’ – you wouldn’t convict the innocent, because adon of the person is even moreso [adon] over Shabat”

Comment from the NHM commentary: “The precedence of the ben-adam over Shabat is aimed at reining in some extreme rabbis whose excessively strict interpretations contravene the halakhic principle of piquakh nephesh (cognizance (overseeing, supervising) of the psyche, i.e. saving an endangered soul / life from any reasonably perceived threat, a medical emergency.)

Anders Branderud
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