Saturday, January 05, 2008

Insider Amplification on the European Neighborhood (Neighbourhood) Policy

I truly wish Herb Peters were here to discuss this. I just made a fascinating online discovery of "Democracy Digest." It appears to contain insider information on the processes Herb and I were analyzing over the years. There has been considerable comment section talk about The European Neighbourhood Policy and possible prophetic ramifications. The following excerpted material from the Democracy Digest may shed further light on that and USA collaboration in "the Process."

"Democracy Promotion: EU-US Variations on a Theme
"Democracy promotion has never been a top foreign policy priority for the United States or European Union, but there is considerable scope for enhancing EU-US interaction in the field, according to a recent meeting of experts. Leading scholars and practitioners from both the US and Europe met for far-reaching discussion about the
transatlantic dimensions of democratisation on October 4th and 5th [2004] at Stanford University's Center on Democracy, Development and the Rule of Law.
"Signs of ferment within the societies and cultures of the broader Middle East have
imparted new vigour to such discussions within the transatlantic community about
what can and should be done to assist democrats in that region and elsewhere.
While the US has been engaged in democracy promotion since 1945, the EU's
engagement in the field is a recent post-Cold War phenomenon, the conference
But differing transatlantic concepts and instruments of democracy
promotion between the EU and US are due less to historical factors than to
varying geo-strategic needs, capacities and perceptions of threat, seminar
participants suggested. "The EU's military weakness and the pressing need to
engage its troubled periphery have prompted the EU to develop a common approach
or orientation based on concepts and instruments nurtured through EU
enlargement," says Amichai Magen, a CDDRL Fellow who with Yitzhak Rabin, a
Fulbright Scholar at Stanford Law School, initiated and organized the workshop.
The EU makes extensive use of positive “democratic conditionality” through two
main rewards to non-members: institutional ties (the strongest of which is the
promise of full membership); and financial and technical assistance to ease
transition to market economies, enhance administrative capacity and facilitate
subscription to liberal norms.
"Stanford conference
participants discussed variations of US-EU interaction in the field. Firstly, greater “co-ordination” of US and EU institutional and delivery capabilities would help avoid divisive tactics used by countries such as Cuba, Russia and many Arab regimes that are eager to minimize external democratising influences. A second school of thought prefers “collaboration” to a tight co-ordination of policies they consider unrealistic, undesirable, or both. Collaboration generates greater participation by non-state actors that are better positioned to engage than national or international bureaucracies. Thirdly, “co-operation” can also involve flexible case-by-case interaction, avoiding overt or institutional EU-US association.
"The wide-ranging reforms (from economic liberalization to human rights'
compliance) required for countries even to be considered for EU membership have
provided a compelling imperative for democratisation along the EU's volatile
periphery. In this respect, the conference heard, the EU has become a
or “gravity” model using normative pressures, trade, aid, democratic
conditionality and socialization mechanisms to promote reforms. The EU has been
less willing to use negative measures – i.e. withdrawal of aid and sanctions.
"Until political criteria governing eligibility for the
Millennium Challenge Account were established, the US traditionally did not use ex ante conditionality.
By contrast, expert American commentators at Stanford could not define a similarly coherent “American strategy.” US democracy promotion activities were described as more fragmented, sporadic and heterogeneous, partly reflecting the diversity of
agencies involved. They also tend to be more narrowly defined (on elections,
institutions, civil society) compared with the EU's more holistic, consistent
and long-term strategy of building long-term relationships and generating
gradual, controlled change through “managed-compliance.” Nevertheless,
participants considered joint strategies for advancing mutually reinforcing
changes to be a potentially rich area for exploration.
"Participants identified four distinct regime types that present different challenges for the US and EU. In both “opening regimes” and “hybrid-regimes,” a major challenge is one of consolidation and preventing backsliding and the entrenchment of
illiberal democracy. Conditionality and aid have been effective in such cases,
as in most of post-communist central and eastern Europe. But they have been less
successful in a second regime type: those states and international protectorates
characterized by weak institutions and administrative capacities, as in Serbia
(including Kosovo), Bosnia-Herzegovina, Albania and Romania, where ruling elites
are attracted by external incentives but lack the judicial and administrative
capacity to effectively implement reform.
"China is probably the most important current example of a fourth regime type -- a “pre-transition” non-democratic country. But in geo-political terms the North African and eastern Mediterranean countries are a critical cluster, given the combination of strong US interests and European engagement through the
Barcelona Process and European Neighbourhood Policy. Finally, a “hard core” of states, including Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia, pose particularly complex and divisive challenges for the EU and US.
"Some European participants
suggested that EU leverage in such societies requires distancing itself from a US that has become “radioactive,” especially in the Middle East. Others suggested that long before either the Iraq war or the Bush Administration, the EU, and especially France, already sought to define themselves in opposition to the US.
"Participants agreed that both the US and EU need to review, reconsider and
perhaps redesign their own institutional instruments and procedures for
democracy promotion. A project that identifies specific places or themes for
cooperation, as well as places where the EU and US should avoid open
competition, would clearly be of interest and use to democracy promoters on both
sides of the Atlantic.

If past experience is any guide, I suggest you archive this material together with all of its links immediately. I also point with interest Stanford University's role in this. Together with New York University, and the Brookings Institution, it appears to be a major player on both New Age and "Global Governance" networks.

Stay tuned!
Here is an article I found concerning the ramifications of Islamic finance. This is written by a woman who is integral to setting up these products with the different financial institutions.

Hi Constance,
Did you know that Javier Solana is also Secretary-General of the Western European Union?
Could this be the revival of the Roman Empire?
The 10 toes of clay and iron in Daniel 2 ?

The Mare Nostrum super computer housed in a deconsecrated church in Spain is the main hub for EU.
You can wikipedia Mare Nostrum
Look at all the symposiums that Stanford has attracting Gates, Charlie Rose and other notables. Stanford was also involved in mind control or something like it and works on black ops according to papers I've read. Contact Alex Jones at he knows this stuff or you know Texe Marrs his friend. I am not keen nor do I follow either one, but you get your info where you can. kf
Shari Banking. Brown said London would be the center of world banking including Shari. Google
well folks, praise the good god of heaven. we are in the know of these critical things. glory to god. praise jesus/yeshua! over and over again... the conqueror is on his way..the justice day is coming...LORD of lords,KING of kings and home sweet home THE NEW JERUSALEM. Great day in the morning! Why i'll be john brown! LOVE to you constance and to you holly and to you all.Let us pray allways and KEEP THE FAITH. amen. love allways,OZARK BILLY from up here in vermont,watchin' and waitin'.......

Take a look at this document, it is in line with what you have here:

Wow Constance- The portion of excerpted material from the Democracy Digest you've posted and the links highlighted within led me to a much broader understanding of European Neighborhood Policy. In particular the document under the word "suggested", "Europeanisation as a Gravity Model of Democration"
Although a 2004 document, the information was TOTALLY relevant to events we’ve been watching. I’ve yet to read another document which so clearly links ‘the good doctor’ and his significance to key issues and his relationship to Global Governance..
Much is written in this document referring to the European Neighborhood Policy.
Of particular interest to me were some references on pages 16-18 .

…“The political conditions set by the European Commission are not entirely its own initiative or specialty. Some of the requirements are closely linked to the High Representative’s own agenda and stem from reform plans he has pursued himself. …”

… “While many Roadmap political reforms have resulted from interventions of the High Representative, there has been a progressive shift towards domestically driven compliance…”

…“For Serbia and Montenegro, the core of EU political conditionality has been the re-creation of a common state between the two republic and the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro was established in February 2003 as a direct result of EU mediation and pressure, in the person of Javier Solana…”

”…Solana’s meditation was a solo act, but one fully supported by the rest of the international community….”

Also, through the excerpted material and links I’ve found additional helpful
Information, one of which is “Forum 2000”. Which bills itself as, ““Forum 2000 presents its utility as a place for reflections about the globalization process.“
Dear Stephanie,

Indeed I did know about Javier Solana being the Secretary General of the 10 nation WEU. This is, a very accurate perception on your part as to its possible even probably prophetic significance.

I somewhat respected Alex Jones material, but am saddened to see him paired up with Texe Marrs. Groan . . . .!
Check this tinyurl out:
Check out this 2003 UN Conference involving Javier Solana's very good friend Giandomenico Picco as moderator:

Solana's disturbing speech at the Fire and Crystal conference can be accessed at

Dorothy, Herb Peters and I all took close looks at these when given. In view of Rich of Medford's research, it has taken on even deeper and more disturbing signficance. I am posting it there too.
European Super-State

What games are being played on both sides of the ocean. Reading the comments on this video we see that the EU is sold as a necessity in the fight against the evil US. Could these people believe the EU and US leadership are working together against the interests of the unelected common people on both sides?

The protest itself:
Today over at EUreferendum I heard for the first time about the protest that took place in December at the EU Parliament. Here is Booker's column on the protest:

At EUreferendum the story is under the heading "We Are Moving Into A Dark Time."

"Before Christmas, almost entirely unreported here in Britain, the proceedings of the European Parliament were brought to a halt by an unprecedented uproar. Just after the EU's leaders had flown back from signing their new treaty in Lisbon, the Portuguese prime minister Jose Socrates, as the EU's acting "president", was in Strasbourg for a ceremony to celebrate the signing of the European Charter of Fundamental Rights, part of the Constitution rejected by French and Dutch voters in 2005." (more at link)

The symbol for these days should be two men, one in front and one in back with the one in the back holding his hands over the ears of the one in front.

Parents race to escape before court takes kids

"A homeschooling family is trying to arrange an escape from Germany before authorities can complete a court action that would give the state custody of their five children, according to a pro-family advocacy organization. ,,,"
That's the story.

Here are the words in the story that chill me because they seem so prophetic about our future:

"Wolfgang Drautz, consul general for the Federal Republic of Germany, has commented on the issue on a blog, noting the government "has a legitimate interest in countering the rise of parallel societies that are based on religion or motivated by different world views and in integrating minorities into the population as a whole."

Drautz said homeschool students' test results may be as good as for those in school, but "school teaches not only knowledge but also social conduct, encourages dialogue among people of different beliefs and cultures, and helps students to become responsible citizens."

The entire story is at the link.

Please note my comment on the Kenya thread.
From New Age, occult, antisemitic, anti-Christian Alice Bailey's writings:
That which causes separation is evil.

From the EU: or

Cultural tolerance 'is not enough,' says EU culture commissioner 04/01/2008 00:00Tolerance of different cultures is no longer enough: Europeans should create an "inter-cultural society" in which interaction across cultural boundaries is the norm, the European Union's top cultural official said." (more at link)

When I do a search I often find that what is new to me has already been covered by many sources on the internet. Today I read Chuck Baldwin's column at News and Views and learned that Huckabee was getting foreign policy advice from Richard Haas, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, a man with very globalist beliefs. I'm posting this for those of you who might not have come across this information already.

What is Obama's connection to Chicago machine politics?

downunder in NZWow! Ive just read this on the Telegraph website from the "" website mentioned by Dorothy at 2.31pm! Dr Solana - in very slick moves is setting everything up for a takeover! And while the rest of the world sleeps so to speak.

"All we have now is the prospect of one national parliament after another meekly rubber-stamping the treaty on the orders of their governments, and the Constitution-by-any-other-name, another mighty step towards imposing on us all a new supranational government, will be in force. In effect, since we will not be able to dismiss our new government or call it to account, we will be living in a one-party state.
The most humiliating charade of all is unfolding here in Britain, where Gordon Brown has promised no less than three months of parliamentary debate on the treaty he signed so shamefacedly in Lisbon. This will be an entirely futile exercise, since MPs will not even officially be given a comprehensible copy of the treaty they are discussing.
It has deliberately been made as hard to follow as possible, by redrafting the constitution into a bewildering mass of amendments to previous treaties, which are virtually meaningless out of context. And nothing our MPs say can change a word of the treaty, since it is already signed and set in stone. In this pitiful fashion what is known as the Mother of Parliaments will sign its own death warrant."
Thanks for the info re Hucksteree.
It should be no surprise any more
when an American candidate
claims that he is a Christian but
is not.
I wish I could take back my last
Presidential vote. I also wish that
what I just wrote weren't true
as it pertains to Ron Paul, but
who knows?

Yours truly
Back in April of last year Constance wrote about the Madariaga connection to the Mont Pelerin Society. Today Carrie Tomko writes more about Mont Pelerin, and there is more about Madariaga and Mont Pelerin for those who want to do a search. My oh my, how is it that all of these organizations labeled conservative have such strange ties to one world government operations?

(Anonymous) Paul 8:38 AM - I must have missed those comments re: Ron Paul, so what do you have? Please pass on any links that might help with research, thanks.
it would be of interest to many if you visited the CFR's web sight on a regular basis to find out wjat's next on the horizon. It is very interesting reading -
One recently published book on the sight by a CFR member is about "common currencY" and ite benefit to the EU - it goes on to explain that it would be "beneficial" for the US to do so under the guise of the NAU -

I haven't personally heard anything
bad about Ron Paul,
And as far as innuendo, I have no
But I didn't know that G.Bush Jr
or Sr were Skull & Bones until after
the last election, so what do I know ?

Please see: The Global Marshall plan panel brochure. This has to be seen and SLOWLY scrolled through to be believed. If you don't go slow, you will accidently "flip" through and miss
important sections and dates.



There is so much new information coming out, instead of me posting innumerable links, do a Google (or other search engine) using the terms...
'Global Marshall Plan 2010 Common Action Plan'
According to Global Contract Website the International Consultation Process started in September 2007

Upcoming Events:

This is a video at "The Network of Spiritual Progressives- a Project of the Tikkun Community" webpage which explains the Global Marshall Plan.
Please take time to watch the following link regarding Gingrich's response to terrorism. Unfortunately the government will include fundamental beliefs in the mix.

So you mean the EU is going to try forced busing into Moslem neighborhoods like they did in the US a cou0ple decades ago, except they bused into different ethnic neighborhoods, to force cultural interaction. Of course I don't really think the EU would do this... or would they?
Sorry - let's try this again

This is part one about a plan for weighted voting in the UN, as well as a look at the Tobin tax idea. Very dull, but somewhat informative. I only got up to chapter 6. I think there are 7 video parts.
I listened to Newt, and I can see why the end might leave one uneasy.
Dorothy said "Today I read Chuck Baldwin's column at News and Views and learned that Huckabee was getting foreign policy advice from Richard Haas, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, a man with very globalist beliefs."

THANK YOU! I'm checking this one out especially after hearing A very influencial Christian leader begin to endorse him recently to their very large YOUNG followers. ~ Shalom
So what’s in your wallet?

While we owe a debt of gratitude to all those who are keeping track of the rise of anti-christ and the construction of his so-called “new world order”, all this information and research will be in vain if it is not used wisely.

It is not sufficient to merely become aware of “the spider”, but we must also discern each and every thread of her web as well. What good will it do to reveal “the beast” if one does not also reveal the methods by which he (or she) seeks to entrap us?

All of us, even now, are empowering the anti-christ system to have control over our lives.

Are we addicted to our computers?
Can we live without email?
Are we in debt to one or more financial institutions?
Do we live by the almighty debit card?
Do we fear identity theft, the pollution of our credit scores, the repossession of our vehicles, homelessness,
or other financial hardship so much that we will trade our very souls to maintain our comfortable lifestyles?

Do we fear a terrorist bomb, a letter full of anthrax, or some other potential threat so much that we willingly trade what’s left of our already limited freedoms for the grand illusion of “peace and safety”?

The mark of the beast is not something that will be forced on us, but rather it is something we will choose to accept because we are already entangled in his world.

How many people think they can just live in the anti-christ’s system up to some specific point, then turn and walk away before having to make the ultimate compromise? Such thoughts are naive and dangerous!

Please do not misunderstand me. I am not disparaging in any way the important work done by Constance, Rudi, or all you others out there who are busy tracking the rise of the anti-christ system. But I am beginning to question what our response should be to the information being gathered. We are to be salt and light, yes. Stupid, no.

Personally, I do not promote adopting some kind of bunker mentality. We are in the world, but not of it. We should be looking up, not down. And if we who believe and trust in Christ are to suffer for our faith, so be it. But for a great many of us, our faith is weak, and from what I can see, may not be up to the challenge that is coming our way.

I’ve talked to some who think that when the time comes they can escape the anti-christ’s system by moving to some remote corner of the country and survive by raising cows and chickens. They have not been keeping up with the one world government controls being put in place to “protect” our food supply from mad cow disease and potential bird flu outbreaks.

I’ve talked with some who think they can move to a remote corner of Montana or Idaho and hunt elk to survive. These folks have simply not been keeping up with the wolf reintroduction program (designed to limit game stocks), nor are they aware of the massive increase in government policing powers. They also forget that millions of other gun toting American’s have a similar fantasy of becoming some kind of "Jeremiah Johnson" overnight.

I am reminded of that earthly promise, “out of chaos, order”. Seems imminently significant to me.

Excuse me for ranting, your responses are welcome.
Okay, I don't mean to be a bogart...but this morning's (Jan. 8) Daily Bread reading is most encouraging. I've taken the liberty to post the entire piece. It's for anyone, like me, who has been growing a bit discouraged lately.

Everything looked bleak to David and his men when they arrived at Ziklag (1 Sam. 30:1-6). The Amalekites had attacked the city and taken their wives and children captive. The men were so discouraged that they wept until they had no more energy. And David, their leader, was “greatly distressed” because the people were contemplating stoning him (v.6).

In the end, David’s army rescued their families and defeated the Amalekites. But the story takes a great turn even before that when “David strengthened himself in the Lord his God” (v.6). Other translations use the words encouraged or refreshed.

The text doesn’t say exactly how David did this. But it makes me wonder, In what ways can we strengthen, encourage, or refresh ourselves in the Lord when we’re feeling discouraged?

First, we can remember what God has done. We can list the ways He has cared for us in the past, and how He has provided for us or answered a prayer request.

Second, we can remember what God has promised. “Be strong and of good courage; . . . for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go” (Josh. 1:9).

Like David, let’s learn to strengthen ourselves in the Lord, and then let’s leave the rest with Him. —Anne Cetas

“I will strengthen,” so take courage,
Child of God, so weak and frail.
God has said so, and it must be,
For His promise cannot fail! —Anon.

Our greatest strength is often shown in our ability to stand still and trust God.
Has anyone considered that the Mare Nostrum (Latin for "our sea") could be the beast from the sea? A supercomputer has the potential for control and abuse, especially if everyone is forced to have an RFID chip. Any thoughts?
I have heard that before and
my problem with it is
that the number is the number
"of a man", and it's a man who
goes into the holy place and
"declares himself to be God"
and many other prophesies which
so I'd just say it's whoever has the
password to that computer and the
basic rights to it. Also I wonder
how many people could hack into it?
The beast is only going to be in power
a certain number of years, is it 3.5?
His reign will be abruptly ended.

Hi oldmanoftheski,
Personally - I do not worry or fret about it.
Hebrews 13:6 for me.
Life and death are in the hands of the Lord Jesus Christ and if it is His direction that I go to be with Him - so be it.
Revelation 12:11
012:011 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
I prefer to "hide in plain sight"

Anonymous 6:47
I've not seen anything about Muslims and forced busing.

Thanks for your good input, Paul. I think Oldman and Doug are both right. We shouldn't be consumed with worry, but how many of us are so enmeshed in consumerism that we could not handle being cut off from buying and selling? Oldman is right to sound the alarm about living on credit and being too tied into the world. In the last few years my husband and I have paid off all of our debt except our mortgage and are hoping to sell the house this spring and see what we can buy for cash from the proceeds--something very tiny, but paid for! I know this is not a possibility for everyone, but the closer we live within our means, the less we will be like foolish virgins.
Hi I love Constance Cumbey's info. However there is sadly a couple of points I think she and fulfilled prophecy have actually missed regarding the Antichrist.
(1) Scripture shows him coming out of one of the areas left by Alexander the Great. See Daniel 8 for instance.
Alexander's empire was divided into 4. The Antichrist will rise out of one of these 4. Most old commentators believed he would arise from the Assyrian empire because one of the Antichrist's titles is the "Assyrian."
This idea is strengthened when we realise that the "people of the prince who shall come" who destroyed the temple were of the Roman empire but were enlisted from Assyria...the tenth legion. So Antichrist will arise form this area not Spain.
(2) The 7 year peace deal is one of 2520 days. This is proved because after 1260 days or in the middle of the week Antichrist breaks the agreement. 2x 1260 =2520. These equal 7 years of 360 lunar days (old reckoning)not our version of 7 years. So we do not look for a 7 year deal. But an agreement that GOD says will last 7 lunar years not man. And somehow he will be a part of this Revived Roman Empire. It is interesting to note. Many modern Assyrians have moved into Europe. See Wikapedia. Any bible or historical scholar will tell you these above facts.
I don't want to seem cocky but this was common knowledge among bible scholars of years gone by.

See more on my blog if you like:
or thanks.
Hi Bob Mitchell,

Respectfull, I will disagree with you, on the Daniel 8 prophecy. I spent a year studying on Daniel alone, and while I can still spend more time, it was quite clear to me, that with the advantage of having history books already written that Daniel 8 was clearly a prophecy for the Jewish people to depict the arrival of antiochus epiphanies. The key is in verse 14 where the angel speaks of the 2300 evenings and mornings. It is a separate prophecy and does not correspond to the same time frame as a 7 year covenant which would be 2520 evenings and mornings.

Daniel 8 is a forshadowing and a picture of what is to come with the antichrist, but clearly the small horn in Daniel 8. The other reason I feel that the small horn is not the final ruler is that in verse 19, the angel says that this information is important because it PERTAINS to the time of the end. That alludes to the idea that you will need this information later, but everywhere else it is indicated as to when it is THE END. and in verse 26, he says that it pertains to many days in the future, not the end.

Just as in Daniel 11, you do not see the rise of the final antichrist figure until verse 36, the king mentioned prior to him is Antiochus Epiphanies.

It would take a lot of time to type out the genealogies and history here, but if anyone needs it, I would be happy to show how Antiochus fulfilled those prophecies, including his descretaion of the temple which lead to the Maccabbean revolt, and while the final AC will act much like him, he will indeed be his own separate person. The abomination of desolation happens twice, once with antiochus and again with the antichrist.

Bob, however, if you will please help me find the scripture relating to "the assyrian" I would be happy to look at that, as no one has yet to show me how that specifically relates to the antichrist.


Also, one more small detail concerning the antichrist,

In Daniel 11 verse 40, it alludes to event where at the end time, the king of the South will collide with him and the king of the north will storm against him with chariots...

Throughout the entire chapter 11, the north is historically Assyria and the south is Egypt. How can the king of Assyria storm against himself. It would definately make sense that the final "king"/antichrist will not be an Assyrian.


While I am in no way saying I agree with anyone, the verses he's referring to are found in Isaiah 10

Isaiah 10
1Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed;

2To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless!

3And what will ye do in the day of visitation, and in the desolation which shall come from far? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory?

4Without me they shall bow down under the prisoners, and they shall fall under the slain. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

5O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation.

6I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.

8For he saith, Are not my princes altogether kings?

9Is not Calno as Carchemish? is not Hamath as Arpad? is not Samaria as Damascus?

10As my hand hath found the kingdoms of the idols, and whose graven images did excel them of Jerusalem and of Samaria;

11Shall I not, as I have done unto Samaria and her idols, so do to Jerusalem and her idols?

12Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.

13For he saith, By the strength of my hand I have done it, and by my wisdom; for I am prudent: and I have removed the bounds of the people, and have robbed their treasures, and I have put down the inhabitants like a valiant man:

14And my hand hath found as a nest the riches of the people: and as one gathereth eggs that are left, have I gathered all the earth; and there was none that moved the wing, or opened the mouth, or peeped.

15Shall the axe boast itself against him that heweth therewith? or shall the saw magnify itself against him that shaketh it? as if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up, or as if the staff should lift up itself, as if it were no wood.

16Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of hosts, send among his fat ones leanness; and under his glory he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire.

17And the light of Israel shall be for a fire, and his Holy One for a flame: and it shall burn and devour his thorns and his briers in one day;

18And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standard-bearer fainteth.

19And the rest of the trees of his forest shall be few, that a child may write them.

20And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.

21The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God.

22For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.

23For the Lord GOD of hosts shall make a consumption, even determined, in the midst of all the land.

24Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt.

25For yet a very little while, and the indignation shall cease, and mine anger in their destruction.

26And the LORD of hosts shall stir up a scourge for him according to the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb: and as his rod was upon the sea, so shall he lift it up after the manner of Egypt.

27And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing.

28He is come to Aiath, he is passed to Migron; at Michmash he hath laid up his carriages:

29They are gone over the passage: they have taken up their lodging at Geba; Ramah is afraid; Gibeah of Saul is fled.

30Lift up thy voice, O daughter of Gallim: cause it to be heard unto Laish, O poor Anathoth.

31Madmenah is removed; the inhabitants of Gebim gather themselves to flee.

32As yet shall he remain at Nob that day: he shall shake his hand against the mount of the daughter of Zion, the hill of Jerusalem.

33Behold, the Lord, the LORD of hosts, shall lop the bough with terror: and the high ones of stature shall be hewn down, and the haughty shall be humbled.

34And he shall cut down the thickets of the forest with iron, and Lebanon shall fall by a mighty one.

Has anyone thought of doing a complete family tree on Solana? wWho knows what we may find.

Thanks for finding those scriptures for me. I had read that passage before and not taken note of it in reference to the AC, but thank you. I will have to study it in context to see, but just skimming over it, I don't read any concrete references to it being the "end times"

I am in no way trying to get everyone riled up, I am just presenting what I have learned through observing what the text says in Daniel.

My final thought on the subject (for tonight (smile))would be that I view the book of Daniel as a blueprint in which we can place all the other scriptures into.

In Daniel 2, we get a wonderful overview of the last kingdoms from the time of Nebuchadnezzar to when God sets up his kingdom. In the statue- God chooses to reveal to us the order of kingdoms, first the head of Gold- representing Babylon, then the chest of silver- Medo-Persian, then the thighs of Bronze,- Greece and then the Legs of Iron- Rome.

Gods final kingdom is portrayed as a rock cut without hands that crushes the feet of the statue- still represented by iron (Rome) but now mixed with common clay.

No where on the statue does the Assyrian empire come into play. The final kingdom on Earth at the time that Gods kingdom comes will have to be Rome, and as it no longer exists, I expect, as do others that it will have to come back alive- hence the dreadful and terrifying beast reference in Daniel 7.

I would venture a guess that the Assyrian could be a reference to the king of Assyria that took the Northern kingdom captive, as Isaiah was written prior to that event happening.

Anyhow, I truly believe, that prophecy was written for us to recognize when it happens, not to overly speculate as to what might be, as the minds of men do not fully comprehend what the mind of God is and all of his plans.

God Bless, and thank you for prompting me to read my Bible again today.

Stephanie, read Herb Peteres book at, right side of page has link- YES, this indicates the revival of the Roman Empire and the 10 WEU nations, or at least has awakened watchers to watch how it proceeds from here.

Of course then you have the other scripture in Daniel that says hew comes from a "little horn" That would more likely be Spain.

Daniel 7:8

8I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Mrs. Cumby has done as much
family tree research as anyone
on Solana and his geneology seems
to be a bit shrouded in mystery
or perhaps misdirection.


Please consider asking Kathleen Keating to be a guest on your radio show. It would be tremendous to hear your shared analysis of EU and Middle East politics.

May the Lord bless you for everything you do.
Israel's Prime Minister Olmert's use of the term "fundamentalism" in his greeting to President Bush this morning (Wednesday) made me wince. He said, ""You are our strongest and most trusted ally in the battle against terrorism and fundamentalism and a staunch supporter of our quest for peace and stability."

Since I had just been reading Rich of Medford's AOC blog page, the "new" definition of the word "fundamentalism" was fresh in my mind.

Rich's timely post points out that according to the EU's Extreme Fundamentalism and Terrorism Group (EFTG)...

"Fundamentalism has been defined as an attitude where non-negotiable principles are introduced to politics from a transcendental source, holy texts or a divine discourse. From the point of view of fundamentalism, religion expresses a divine order, which ideally embraces all life spheres. Although this may simply lead fundamentalists to encapsulate their own existence around their religious beliefs (Quietism), they will most often actively pursue the goal of seeking other life spheres, including political one, dominated by religious rather than secular principles. Often fundamentalism has also meant a tendency to impose these principles indiscriminately on believers and non-believers alike.

Bush and Olmert appear to be reading from the same script here. In fact, this shared definition/phraseology may be the only thing that anyone actually agreed to at Annapolis.
Some of the latest news on Senor (Dr.) Solana:
oldmanofthesky -
I saw that on TV and thought the same...good find!
Connie, what do you think Solana's feeling is toward the favoritism on Tony Blair becoming the first full fledged EU President?

This will be used as ammunition

Could this be the real meaning of "sustainable".
I write this because it is the buzz word of our day as far as environmental issues, but this tells me it is more about political structure and cooperation of the people. Areas that are highly cooperative have more democracy, and areas that are more "turbulent" or resistant behaviors to the" ideal" will have more Bureaucratic control.

The word sustainable is confusing. Here I am thinking along the lines of "global warming" and sustainable, renewable natural resources and conservation. As I dug a little deeper I found it to mean a political philosophy, a balance between Bureaucracy and Democracy. I will pass on to you the links.
Key words: Socio-Ecological process characterized by ideal seeking behavior.
the only operational definition of sustainability to this day is:
The four universal ideals are:(1) Homonomy; (2) Nurturance; (3) Humanity; and, (4) Beauty (Ibid).

EU, and UN all talking about NGOs
Non Govt. Officials

The vital role of NGOs and other "major groups" in sustainable development was recognized in Chapter 27[7] of Agenda 21, leading to intense arrangements for a consultative relationship between the United Nations and non-governmental organizations.[8]

Globalization during the 20th century gave rise to the importance of NGOs. Many problems could not be solved within a nation. International treaties and international organizations such as the World Trade Organization were perceived as being too centered on the interests of capitalist enterprises. Some argued that in an attempt to counterbalance this trend, NGOs have developed to emphasize humanitarian issues, developmental aid and (((sustainable development))). A prominent example of this is the World (((Social))) Forum which is a rival convention to the World Economic Forum held annually in January in Davos, Switzerland. The fifth World (((Social))) Forum in Porto Alegre, Brazil, in January 2005 was attended by representatives from more than 1,000 NGOs.[citation needed] Some have argued that in forums like this NGOs take the place that should belong to popular movements of the poor. Others argue that NGOs are often imperialist in nature and that they fulfill a similar function to that of the clergy during the high colonial era. (((interesting)))
(((emphasis added)))
There was an interesting column over at Renew America.
The European Union is an evil empire

The article contains a number of links to youtube and others articles where the writers are critical of the EU. is one of the links.

Anonymous 8:15 am
Nice analysis of NGOs.

An additional thought for those being used through NGOs. NGOs are being used to bring about change. NGOs don't fund themselves. They are funded through foundations. Once the desired changes come about, the funding will probably be pulled and those stupids who think they are bringing about a new utopia will soon learn that they have been used and are usless as control becomes centered in the political sphere.

well, it just amazing that so many have absolutely no perspective on truth.
With Bush making the rounds in Israel - and his recent statements - has nayone besides me caught the fact on the timing on those statements nad the 3 earthe quakes off the Pacific coast?


Does Bush want Israel to give up Jerusalem?

>>'There should be an end to the occupation that began in 1967,'' Bush added.

A peace deal will require ``painful political concessions'' by both sides, he said. On borders, Bush said a deal would require modifications to the 1949 armistice lines.<<
Anonymous 8:15 AM-

Thank you for your insightful perspective regarding the unquestionably broad coverage of issues under the umbrella of "sustainability". Here is some information from several EU and UN websites which deal specifically with Sustainable Development. In the left hand corner of the first link is a list of different areas classified under sustainable development. The next link is the UN Division of Sustainable Development. The last link is a "short list" of some NGO's. I'm quite sure this list of links is one I got from Dorothy and it has been quite helpful in following up on some of these UN friendly groups. (Dept of Public Information Non-Governmental Organizations)
Johnny has written an outstanding article elaborating further on information Constance recently alerted us to. See:
"The Fire In The Crystal and UN Human Security and Dignity"

Ok, now I know something's going on!! After just finishing Herb's book this morning, tonight our local paper actually published a report that today Bush said, "...I believe it's going to happen - that there be a signed peace treaty by the time I leave office (in January 2009). That's what I believe"
One earthquake for each day president Bush was in Israel! Sounds and feels like a pretty good deal to me!

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Hello Everyone,
As I have sat here at my computer and studied and studied more.I realize, it is such a blessing and privilege to be living in a land of freedom, and to be able to research and discuss such things among ourselves.
Being a Christian, being aware of the times we are living in... our antennas are up so to speak. We see that America could be next and our freedoms will take on a new dynamic if our leaders join the "global" cause, if they haven't already. I think George Bushes resistance has bought us some time. But I do think MHO our next President will be the one who will become full member of EU.

So as long as we are here serving the Lord and being keenly aware and awaken out of our sleep, how then ought we to behave and live in light of all this information that is unfolding? We are watching prophecy unfold before us like birth pains, more frequent and intense with a short period of time.

1st) We should *not* be fearful or discouraged by what is coming, because we do have tremendous scriptural insight and we know through scripture how this will all culminate. But we should be encouraged and built up in our faith as we watch Gods word through prophecy being fulfilled, as He said it would happen. We know the end, and I will tell you, I am looking so forward to that time when we see Jesus face to face, in His glorious Kingdom of all Kingdoms. I think many of us are apprehensive to a certain degree because we also know what the unbelievers are heading for and how they are being seduced into this global community ideal.

2nd) We should be prayerful, staying focused on our Heavenly Father, pressing in, drawing near to Him and wait for His will and plan for us in such a time as this (I think of Esther). Drawing strength from His word (I have been finding the Psalms to be of great comfort, courage and faith building) and staying in fellowship with like minded Christians. I would highly encourage to form prayer groups. If ever their was a time of needing Gods strength and power is now. We need to throw off those things that hinder, repent of sins that distract and bog down your walk and instead be slaves to righteousness and full of good works.

3rd) We should be active in ways that honor God and glorify God. We should be a people seeking every opportunity to do good, going out of our way to help others as God strengthens us, building a loving and helpful reputation in the name of Jesus. Many more need to know and this could be our last opportunity.

4th) We should get our lives in order Spiritually Luke 21:8-36 and not be like the 5 foolish virgins in Matthew 25: 1-13. They (the 10) were all invited to the wedding and had their garments ready, and they themselves were ready to go, but they lacked one thing, and it disqualified them from entering in. They did not have oil in their lamps. This tells me of the Holy Spirit and that we need to ask to be filled if we haven't already, and I'm sure many of you agree and have done this.

5th) Trust in the Lord Prov.3:5-6 and Psalm 37:3-5
To keep our lives in check 2 Chronicles7:12-14

12 Then the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said to him: “I have heard your prayer, and have chosen this place for Myself as a house of sacrifice. 13 When I shut up heaven and there is no rain, or command the locusts to devour the land, or send pestilence among My people,
14 if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

May this encourage you and strengthen you as we continue to see events of biblical proportions unfold before us and make the most of this opportunity set before us. Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith. Keep up the good work.

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I just thought I would pass these on about the New WO and some very interesting reading. Please check it out.

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