Saturday, April 30, 2005

More Whoppers from "Brother Eric"

From the "sainted pen" of Eric Jon Phelps, a/k/a Jon Eric Phelps, a/k/a Jon Eric Felps
Phelps tries "AV1611" replay of long discredited Nazi Fire and Ice Theories

Well, dear blogspot readers. Thanks to one of my very good epals, I was directed to the latest on Eric Jon Phelps website. I saw a post that he allegedly believed in "hollow earth" theories, but I could not believe that even he would be dumb enough to post such proven fallacies. The Nazis had a well known belief in these theories. Their dogmatic belief in them probably cost the Nazis a possible World War II victory. These are also known as the Hans Horbiger fire and ice theories. Hitler comissioned a fleet to float up to the Arctic waters where he believed a subtropical sub-earth paradise to exist. Of course, they went without winter gear and icebreakers . . . Nobody dared say, "but the emperor isn't wearing anything" . . . and the rest is history. Now Eric Jon Phelps tells us on the one hand that the Jesuits controlled Nazi Germany. On the other hand, it is also the Jesuits seeking to keep us from believing the "truth"[NOT!] of these hollow earth, fire and ice theories.

Does Phelps want these theories to shipwreck us as they shipwrecked the Nazis? Is he telling the truth? Or is he simply playing one more round of the popular occult game, "Watch the Fundamentalists run!" You be the judges and I shall value your input, research, and comments! You may either go over to Bro. Eric's "VaticanAssassins.org" website and read it for yourself, or in case another popular New Age game of "Now you see us, now you don't", you may read it as Bro Eric wrote it below. Both the link and the text follows:
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/hollow_earth.htm

Dear Brethren and Friends,

The "hollow earth theory" is both Biblical and truly scientific. Moreso, the Jesuits have done much to suppress this knowledge. The Jesuit/Masonic/Rockefeller connection to Admiral Byrd in financing the Admiral's explorations, as well as Amadeo Giannini's connection to the Jesuit Order's wicked Bank of America spoken of below, further sustains the connection. Jesuit physicist and seismologist Jerome S. Riccard connected with the Archbishop of Boston William Cardinal O'Connell (Cardinal years being 1911-1944) further raises my suspicion of a massive Jesuit cover-up in order to keep from us the truth as to the proper functioning of the earth in relation to a geocentric creation. It is possible that between the two truths of the earth being fixed and thus "at rest," and the magnetic influences of this truly "hollow earth" we dwell upon, lie the secrets to understanding the law of gravity thus enabling the Jesuit Millita of the Black Pope to build anti-gravity aerodynes, i.e., UFOs.


This 1926 photo shows 1881 Boston College graduate William Cardinal O'Connell,
who as Boston Archbishop had encouraged the Jesuits to move their College
from the South End location, walking the grounds of the Chestnut Hill Campus.
He is accompanied by (R-L) Jesuit University President James Dolan, S.J.,
Director of Harvard (Beer) Brewing Company Walter Guyette of Lowell,
and Jesuit Vice Provincial James Kilroy, S.J. The Jesuit Order totally controls
the Pope's Roman Hierarchy in America. The Hierarchy, using its Papal Knights,
controls the Company's "trusted third party," in accordance with its Secreta Monita.
That "trusted third party" is the New York City-based Council on Foreign Relations.
Select Council members, many of whom are Shriner Freemasons, Knights of Malta,
Skull and Bones and Opus Dei, are "elected" or appointed to key positions of power
within the Papacy's"Holy Roman" Fourteenth Amendment American Empire.
Through this chain of command the Black Pope utilizes all scientific discoveries
of note, monopolizes those discoveries if decided upon in secret council, and then
suppresses, upon pain of death, all who would seek to give high technology to
the White Nations of Western Civilization born out of the Lord Jesus Christ's
Grand and Glorious Protestant Reformation.

Sincerely in Faith,

Brother Eric"

Oh, and one more thing, Bro. Eric, please tell me where in the Bible pre or post AV1611, do I go to find these Hollow Ice Theories. The New Age bookstores have shelves full of them -- but you obviously read your bible much closer than I -- I couldn't find them?

CONSTANCE E. CUMBEY



Comments:
Here's some Bible references that may or may not allude to traversible regions within the earth:

Rev. 5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.

Rev. 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, [be] unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Phl 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth;

2Pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

"cast [them] down to hell" in the original greek:
Tartaros (the deepest abyss of Hell)
1) the name of the subterranean region, doleful and dark, regarded by the ancient Greeks as the abode of the wicked dead, where they suffer punishment for their evil deeds; it answers to Gehenna of the Jews

2) to thrust down to Tartarus, to hold captive in Tartarus


Eph 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

The "Hollow Earth theory" is more of a general label on a whole host of myths and theories. That the ancients believed in a subterranean region inside the earth is indisputable. In fact, it is the most common belief held by nearly every culture on the planet. Every native tribe in the western hemisphere had tales about the subterranean world - from Alaska to the tip of Argentina. Other cultures in the Old World include the Nordics, indigenous peoples on the Tibetan Plateau, Russia, Transcaucasia and Asia Minor, India, China, and western Europe, especially in the Celtic tradition.

The inhabitants of the inner earth go by various names, the most familiar being: elves, fauns, fairies, goblins, pixies, korrigans, leprechauns, and the domovoys of Russian legends.

The Nazis certainly did believe these stories, as has nearly every occult tradition since the beginning of recorded history. They sent many expeditions to Tibet and eventually to the North Pole. The Nazis held a unique cosmogony, as Contance has mentioned. It was in part based upon Tibetan and Nordic myth, combined with the race theories of Blavatsky and the writings about the Vril by Bulwer Lytton. Hans Horbiger took these theories to the extreme: insisting that not only is the Earth hollow but that we are living inside it; the stars are merely blocks of ice; the whole history of humanity contained in the struggle between fire and ice.
 
Let me give you another theory. While the winners in the scholarly scientific studies programs are getting grants to study genes, molecules, atmospheres, sun spots, black holes, DNA and any number of things scientific, the losers are kept busy with things like the hollow earth theory. It makes them feel important and keeps them out of trouble. It also helps those who run conspiracy websites make a living selling books to those who feel special because they know something no one else knows.

Terry, can you tell me which of Dante's Rings of Hell, under the earth of course, is reserved for those who deliberately waste the time of and sucker those whose trust in their fellow man is foolishly placed?
 
Possible Jesuit connections to underground tunnels:

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The Liyobaa Cave Entrances
[Various tales about the underground entrances in the Americas. The Liyobaa Cave incident was witnessed, and participated in by "priests" (may have been jesuits). The "Tunnels of South America" section relates some tales about Mayan myths and a story about Blavatsky, in Peru, seeking out evidence for the existence and location the entrances.]
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Buenos Aires's Amazing Attractions
In 1616, on the Manzana de las Luces (street block of lights), the Jesuits established the Neo-Roman San Ignacio church. Its facade is the oldest in Buenos Aires. It was built in 1710 after the style used in all Jesuit churches. Another interesting point in the area are the Jesuit tunnels, which are 23 feet (7 meters) deep and have an unknown purpose. Some say they were built as a defense system and later were used for contraband. This mystery is still being investigated.
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Buenos Aires underground
The bibliography of the students of the past century make some references to the mysterious tunnels of the School where the leaders of Argentine generations were educated. The tunnels were part of the legends of prankish students. But it was in 1912 when it was discovered that the tunnels were something more than a legend: during excavations (several public constructions were made in this time), just where the "Manzana de las Luces" is located the ground collapsed. It was an engineer: Hector Greislebin who studies for the first time this tunnels that by that time came to see light once again.

Today the tunnels are being studied by Argentine and North-American archaeologists, only 70 meters long are authorized for tourism as the rest are not safe enough due to the humidity and the possibilities of tumbling down (traffic in that area is abundant nearly all day long). The investigations are directed by the Institute of Historical Investigations of the "Manzana de las Luces". Some interesting information about the tunnels can be summarized as follows:

* The tunnels form a labyrinthic net with false exits. There are people that think the original trace of the tunnels followed codes of construction of esoteric type. This also explains the fact that all the exits communicate each other and with all the institutions representing the political power of the viceregal time: the Viceroy's House, the churches (specially the Jesuitic ones, all powerful by that time), the "Cabildo", the port, the Custom-house.
* Some tunnels were built 15 meters deep. Their total length is unknown. The 70 meters opened for tourism are located beneath the "Manzana de las Luces". The section that is being studied is beneath the "Cabildo", approximately 150 meters from the other area. The corridors are large, in some cases a man on horseback was able to go through them.
* Some people think that the tunnels were built by the Jesuits as the net have as a permanent confluence spot the Church (St. Ignatius, the name comes from the founder of the order: St Ignatius of Loyola) in the "Manzana de las Luces".
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I don't buy it. Even though Jesuits have a long association with tunnel building and reverance for caves: "Jesuit tradition owes a great debt to a cave in Manresa, Spain, where Ignatius Loyola spent the better part of a year fighting demons and learning God's ways. (source)" The tunnel networks were well in existence before the Spanish landed in South America. The Incas knew of them (though they hadn't built them themselves) and used them to hide from the soldiers. They also hide most of their treasure in these tunnels ... it is this that the Jesuits were after:


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Subterranean Tunnels & the Hollow Earth
My Search for Tunnels in the Earth Part Two

In 1681, a Jesuit missionary named Fray Lucero wrote of information given to him by Indians in the Rio Huallagu area of northeastern Peru. They told him that the lost city of Gran Paititi lay behind the forests and mountains east of Cuzco.

The Jesuit wrote, "This empire of Gran Paytite has bearded, white Indians. The nation called Curveros, these Indians told me, dwell in a place called Yurachuasi or the 'white house.' For king, they have a descendant of the Inca Tupac Amaru, who with 40,000 Peruvians, fled far away into the forests, before the face of the conquistadors of Francisco Pizarro's day in AD 1533. He took with him a rich treasure, and the Castilians who pursued him fought each other in the forests, leaving the savage Chuncho Indios, who watched their internecine struggles, to kill off the wounded and shoot the survivors with arrows. I myself have been shown plates of gold and half-moons and ear-rings of gold that have come from this mysterious nation." This story is independently documented in the book "Amazonas y El Maranon" by Fray Manuel Rodriguez, published in 1684, according to Wilkins.
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A general search on Google, querying "jesuit+tunnels," brings up 10,200 results. Giving this quick perusal of a few webpages from the preceding search, I am personally satisfied that the theory of the "Hollow Earth" was most certainly known by the Jesuits. Giving their documented interest in tunnels, and the tunnel constructions in the regions where the "inner earth" tradition of the natives was very prevalent, I'd say they had/have more than a passing interest in the subject.
 
Terry, let them make millions of dollars by giving information about underground oil deposits.

Also, I'm surprised that there are no environmentalists in those underground areas complaining about the oil company probes into their world.

Cave tunnels are far different than hollow earth theories. Cave tunnels come to an end and don't encompass UFOs and cities underground.

On one of the cable channels there was a story about someone who built a resort home in a series of caves underground, but the guy had a lot of specialized equipment to deal with the springs, humidity, etc.

That's where it ends. It doesn't go into the possibility of underground cities and aliens and UFOs and Jesuits who run the world. While reality is boring compared to flights of the imagination, that's life.
 
Terry,

"under the earth" in my opinion refers to those buried or working in places under the earth, e.g. mines, underground caves -- OR -- TO HELL -- in any case, they are excellent places to refrain from -- I do hope you too haven't also bought into the Horbiger Fire & Ice theories so immensely popular with the New Agers along with that famous Rosicrucian who sort of pioneered this theory for the "scientists". Your last verse about "as Jonah for three days" equating with the son of man for 3 days, refers to the Christ's pre-resurrection period of burial -- BUT, Terry, you are right to say that these are occult theories -- and such they are and as such, we ought not be delving into them -- Bro Eric is making Benedict XVI's used car lot look better every day!
 
Terry, I am surprised at the Blavatsky reference -- If Madame Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, Ezra Pound, Eustace Mullins and/or Eric Jon Phelps told me it was raining, I would go to the window and look! And even if it then appeared to be raining, I would look carefully to make sure somebody wasn't carefully aiming a sprinkler at the window.
 
As soon as you talk about "man" living "in the earth" or "under the earth," as it says in Revelation, you come face to face with the traditions in other cultures who had the same beliefs. I see Phelps' point, I wouldn't call the "hollow earth theory" scientific, but there is a biblical precedent that might cause someone to come to that conclusion.

I attempted to show how widespread this belief is in other cultures as well. The tales from miners are also well documented. They encounter all kinds of things underground and tunnels that appear to have been carved perfectly from solid rock centuries, if not, millenia ago.

It's the Tibetan and Theosophical beliefs that are the most elaborate, though. They see the underground as a real kingdom, the seat of the "ruler of the world." It's here where the "Hollow Earth theory" originates. The King of Agartha and Shamballa, according to them, is the guiding hand behind the occult organizations running rampant upon the earth; in other words, the seat of Satan. Constance knows this. The Blavatsky/Bailey/Creme disciples call him Sanat Kumara.

I don't subscribe to these theories, I document that they exist; I find it very revealing that the hideous beings purported to reside there are most certainly what we would call "demons." And if they worship these "masters" who have this Kingdom underground, then that's more ammunition to prove to others - who might be taken in - that they are not to be associating with this bunch.

The Bible references, I just looked up today. Because I knew that they were cited by believers in the "hollow earth theory" as additional proof for their beliefs.
 
For a good understanding of what the CFR is all about, read about the founder Colonel House, who created the foreign policy that is the basis for President Bush's (according to the CFR).
 
Terry, in other words you make a buck off pandering to those who live in lala land. Do you ever take the time to tell them that their views are so undocumented that they escape reality? Do you ever post both sides of a controversy? It seems to me that you are making your reputation on all kinds of strange possibilities without ever taking a stand on what may be valid?

If I write a book that suggests cats are running the world, will you publicize it as a real possibility? My guess is yes.
 
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"under the earth" refers to
the realms of the dead, and to hades. And not just tunnels in this world, but a parellel world of sorts, but underground. Etheric, astral, whatever. There may be weak points that would allow access from this world to a parallel world in the flesh, but in general the only way to get there is to die or bilocate. Doorways to hell supposedly exist at various places. These Bible verses have NOTHING to do with the Hollow Earth theory, more likely, the spiritual purveyors of it to humans, were trying to encourage a hellward focus on the part of deceived humans, not realizing that that is what they were doing, that might be of use to entities trying to reach outside of hell.
 


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