Tuesday, October 31, 2023

Too much happening to encapsulate!

 What is happening?  Everything!

    1.  Trumpism continues its strange evil spell over too many Evangelicals and Right-to-Life Catholics: "only Trump can save us."

    2.  The  Hamas October 7 surprise attack on Israel.

    3.  Trump receives indictments for his Georgia and related Election interference activities.

    4.  Trump - FOR NOW - flatters and praises Evangelicals while hurling insults at just about everybody else (and those Evangelicals not under his spell.)

   5.  Curiously, pro-Maga and Qanon people along with substantial parts of the Republican Party who  communicate with Trump and take his advice favor abandoning Ukraine.

   6.  Reportedly, Putin hangs on in the Ukraine wars in hopes that Trump will return to the Presidency and remove all USA resistance to his mass-murdering invasion of that country.

  7.  Trump promises to OBLITERATE his opposition.

  8.  Trump believes he can override this portion of the Constitution (14th Amendment) with an "Executive Order":

Amendment XIV

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Donald Trump has declared in his recent ranting speeches that if he is elected to the 47th Presidency of the United States that he will end the citizenship of  children born in the United States to undocumented aliens!

I am becoming increasingly wary of Trump for whom I once supported and voted for in two elections.  He has no compunction about lying, he has  an almost hypnotic, perhaps even demonic hold over naive Christians who think he will continue to be their friend once he has achieved his obvious dictatorial aspirations.  One thing  you should think about is the nickname he has attached to Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida of "SANCTIMONIOUS".  "Sanctimonious" is a term usually applied to people considered "churchy" or "pious".  

I am horrified at Biden's stance on abortion, same-sex marriage, trans-genderism, and the like.  However, I ask you to please remember that of "'transgender' BRUCE JENNER, now known as "Caitlyn Jenner," Trump during his first Presidential campaign said "she may use any restroom she wants in my buildings." Trump has spoken out of both sides of his mouth on these issues.  

Donald Trump pursues his political base with little regard for truth.  One of his top advisors, self-proclaimed "Dirty Trickster" Roger Stone is courting the New Apostolic Reformation crowd, including Elijah List with prolamations that he is now a born again Christian attending Coral Gables Presbyterian Church and that he and Donald Trump often "pray together."  I believe given his reputation and the obvious tactics employed that what he and Trump are really up to is "PREYING TOGETHER."  

If Trump returns, I pray I am wrong, but I strongly suspect I am not.

Constance

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Anonymous said...

Exodus 25:16-22
King James Version

16 And thou shalt put into the ark the testimony which I shall give thee.

17 And thou shalt make a mercy seat of pure gold: two cubits and a half shall be the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof.

18 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat.

19 And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof.

20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.

21 And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee.

22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

Anonymous said...

It's even worse than I thought.

"I am your God," etc. In his letter to the Galatians [3:19], Paul
says that the law was ordained by angels. That is, angels were
assigned, in God's behalf, to give the law of God; and Moses, as an
intermediary, received it from the angels. I say this so that you might
know who gave the law. He did this to them, however, because he
wanted thereby to compel, burden, and press the Jews. -- Martin Luther

See for yourself.

https://sermons.martinluther.us/Luther_How_Christians_Moses.pdf

How Christians Should Regard Moses
August 27, 1525,
Martin Luther

Now the words which are here written were spoken
through an angel. This is not to say that only one angel was there, for
there was a great multitude there serving God and preaching to the
people of Israel at Mount Sinai. The angel, however, who spoke here
and did the talking, spoke just as if God himself were speaking and
saying, "I am your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt,"
etc. [Exod. 20:1], as if Peter or Paul were speaking in God's stead and
saying, "I am your God," etc. In his letter to the Galatians [3:19], Paul
says that the law was ordained by angels. That is, angels were
assigned, in God's behalf, to give the law of God; and Moses, as an
intermediary, received it from the angels. I say this so that you might
know who gave the law. He did this to them, however, because he
wanted thereby to compel, burden, and press the Jews.

Anonymous said...

Every once in awhile, the follower of the heretic, pervert Herbert W. Armstrong shows up in order to push the cult of Armstrongism.

Anyone with even a degree of faith in the authority of the New Testament can see through his/her efforts as if they were looking through glass.

Anonymous said...

Why is Herbert W. Armstrong a pervert? He had sex with his daughter for years. If that isn't a perversion, what is?

Anonymous said...

Herbert W. Armstrong, on a number of occasions, wrongly predicted the end of the world along with Christ's second coming. He GUARANTEED that this would happen during his lifetime, because HE proclaimed that HE was God's LAST APOSTLE and PROPHET.

Armstrong also taught that order to be 'saved,' the believer must pay tithes TO HIM! There's so much wrong about Armstrong, it would literally take the size of a book in order to document, and disprove, all of his lies, false predictions, heresies and perversions.

Anonymous said...

4:39 PM,

I'm not sure to whom you're directing your comments or why. I searched the Jesus' Words Only site for the word "Armstrong" and came up with nothing.

Relax, dude. In the book of Acts, the apostles together with James prayed and discussed it with each other. Paul had come to them about the question of circumcision for gentiles. They responded in a way that was consistent with the law of Moses, for foreigners and sojourners. Foreigners and sojourners were not held to the law like Israelites were. But they had to avoid eating meat sacrificed to idols and avoid fornication (including unwed sex, adultery and sexual immorality of all kinds). James left it open whether the gentiles could learn more about the law of Moses in their local synagogue. He said it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, to him, and the apostles not to over burden the new gentile converts. He did not go beyond the law of Moses, nor did the Holy Spirit.

It's important to recognize that John said the law is not a burden. Jesus taught the Pharisees added burdens to the law with their traditions of men. But Moses, Jesus and the Apostles and the Holy Spirit and James the bishop of the Jerusalem apostolic church, all did not think it would be helpful to new gentile converts to suddenly push them into the entire Israelite Mosaic law including all elements of it. Jesus taught against pouring new wine into old wineskins. (Matthew 9:17)

Really it's not asking for much to avoid sexual immorality and to avoid eating meat sacrificed to idols, as well as loving your God and loving your neighbor, in return for eternal life in the New Jerusalem. Is it?

Anonymous said...

1:43 PM

"I just looked at Romans 8:3. Like all things Paul wrote it is confusing to me. . ."

“I can fill a church speaking on Revelation and empty it speaking on Romans.”
— J. Vernon McGee

Saul set out to destroy the church till Jesus knocked him off his high horse, and what better man then now Paul to minister to the persecuted Church?

I've always wondered what the thorn was the plaged St Paul's side. Whatever it was it may have affected his writing, making it a little hard for the comfortable comprehend (which may be taken as a blessing)

Anonymous said...

Jeremiah 31:31-35
King James Version

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:

Anonymous said...

So as a humorous side bar. . .

In the store just before Halloween I said - look at that Christmas yard decorations.

She said every year they put them out earlier and earlier grrr.

I said do I have to hear this every year?

So, a couple days ago I heard the faint refrain of Hark The Herald Angels coming from her headphones and I asked - what are you watching?

Christmas movies

Anonymous said...

If you don't accept the Holy Spirit writings of Paul, you're as lost as the worst of heathens.

Anonymous said...

Any attempt to label Trump supporters as "Trump Davidians" is clearly a last ditch desperate attempt to put Trump voters of 2024 in the 'terrorists' category.

I guess Globalists rationalize that if Trump does end up in prison... maybe they can put all of his supporters & voters in there with him, too.

Desperate times call for desperate measures, etc.

It's all so transparent... and really quite pathetic.

Meanwhile, the average thinking person already KNOWS exactly WHO are the enemies of the United State of America... and it's not Donald Trump or his supporters.

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1723057416873681020


Duplicated Ballots, Falsified Tally Sheets, and Mail-In Ballot Fraud in Fulton County, Georgia

Surveillance footage obtained by VoterGA shows large numbers of ballots being scanned multiple times. Pay attention to the women wearing yellow at the desk. According to VoterGA, she slides ballots into a scanning machine, removes the ballots, and then reinserts the same ballots.

Anonymous said...

8:52 PM

A couple links about our (The United States) enemies (Karber (a Ukrainian) doesn't think much of the Obama or Princess Di (God rest her soul) types)


VIDEO: DR. PHILLIP KARBER EXPLAINS RUSSIAN OPERATIONS IN UKRAINE
MWI Staff | 04.14.17

https://mwi.westpoint.edu/video-dr-phillip-karber-explains-russian-operations-ukraine/
+++
Tuesday, December 13, 2011
China's Secret Underground Nuclear Tunnels System

https://deepbluehorizon.blogspot.com/2011/12/chinas-secret-underground-nuclear.html?m=1

Word on the street is there's a couple Chinese guys stuck in Gaza

Anonymous said...

8:25 PM,

The Holy Spirit, if it is really the Holy Spirit, can't contradict Jesus. You need to know that Jesus was only flexible for the sake of good, not evil. Jesus was flexible about the letter of the law and the minor elements of ritual so that he could be obedient to the greatest commandments fully in spirit actively. This was exemplified by his healing of a daughter of Abraham on the Sabbath. (Luke 13:16) Love is active. Love obeys the law of God, because the law of God is all about loving first God and then your neighbor. Love isn't opposed to obedience. Faith isn't opposed to faithfulness.

It's quite another thing to say that the Holy Spirit told me that all things are lawful, but not all things are expedient (or profitable). Now maybe I can feel my own conscience doesn't trouble me if I do a cost-benefit analysis and conclude that I'll have more pleasure and less pain on net balance, even if I break one of the ten commandments. (1 Corinthians 10:23)

Balaam had the Holy Spirit but later apostasized from it. He started by being the enemy of God and setting out to curse the children of Israel. He was stopped on the road like Paul was. He for a while became a friend of the children of Israel like Paul did. He made a true prophesy under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. But he apostasized later. Just because he made a true prophesy didn't mean everything he said for the rest of his life could be taken as the word of God, if it contradicted prior words from God (given to Moses).

Anonymous said...

Do you see any resemblance?

1 Corinthians 10:23
King James Version

23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_the_Law

Through the reception of the Book, Crowley proclaimed the arrival of a new stage in the spiritual evolution of humanity, to be known as the "Æon of Horus".[1][a][b] The primary precept of this new aeon is the charge, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law."

Anonymous said...

If Judas apostasized, why couldn't Paul?

Why don't we test words that are added to the canon, the same way the Old Testament law in Deuteronomy prescribed?

Salvation is of the Jews. Jesus was a Jew. He didn't abrogate Moses. The Old Testament law is foundational. What do we have without it as a basis for any divine authority?

Apostolic Succession as in the Catholic church?

A magic book as with Protestants, who conveniently ignore the Catholic church chose the works to include in the canon and exclude from it?

A third option, and the biblical option, is to follow the law in Deuteronomy. If a prophet, even a true prophet who works signs and wonders, contradicts Moses, he is to be considered henceforth apostate.

The principle is you don't contradict later the things that were revealed before! That's what the Muslims do! They teach some hadiths abrogate others! How are we making our Holy Bible better than their Qur'an if we let Paul abrogate Moses and Jesus!

No, we don't need to mock up gentile Christians into pretend play ancient Israelites. But if we don't respect the foundation of divine authority in the Old Testament, we're no better than Muslims in our method for including things in our canon!

Anonymous said...

Luke 9:28-35
King James Version

28 And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray.

29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.

30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:

31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.

32 But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him.

33 And it came to pass, as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias: not knowing what he said.

34 While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud.

35 And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

Anonymous said...

Matthew 3:13-17
King James Version

13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.

14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Anonymous said...

Jesus rebuked Pharisees, not Moses, not Elijah, not John the Baptist. He even submitted to John the Baptist's baptism. John the Baptist was continuing in the tradition of the Old Testament prophets! He bridged between the Old and New Covenants! God approved. He spoke saying this is my son in whom I am well pleased! Listen to him. Not, "Listen to Paul." Listen to the Son in whom the Father is well pleased! Is there any justification (from any source besides Paul in the entire bible) for taking "anti-Judaizing" as far as Paul took it?

Anonymous said...

This man is even using Paul to advocate deconstruction! Where will it end? Paul's words are like Rorschach Inkblot Tests!

PAUL'S DECONSTRUCTION?

https://www.danielkheld.com/post/paul-s-deconstruction

Anonymous said...

What did eating the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil represent, if not "doing what is right in your own eyes? In the days of the judges, everybody did what was right in their own eyes. If it was not okay in the Old Covenant, is it okay in the New Covenant? Pastors by the dozen teach that you will be saved no matter what you do, but you just might lose rewards, but it's okay because you'll have an eternity to earn them back! Where did they get this idea? They quote Paul! If only the wise theologians can get the correct meaning, but the sinful can't be called back to the straight and narrow path when they stray from it, what good is it? Don't the sinful and confused most need a clear call to come back to the path and get away from the ditch?

Anonymous said...

It's important to understand the Pharisees weren't simply under blanket condemnation by Jesus due to their strictness. You see, they were both strict and flexible. They were strict when it was a matter of burdening somebody else cold heartedly. They were flexible when they could make a profit.

For instance, they taught that you would not be condemned for abdicating your responsibility to honor your mother and father by supporting them in your old age--just so long as you gave a sum of money to the temple in Jerusalem.

Do you see why they were called hypocrites? They were flexible for evil that they profited from but strict when they could have done good out of love and used the law as an excuse not to do it, like when they took umbrage that Jesus healed the woman on the Sabbath day.

Now look carefully at Paul's writings. He's not simply flexible. He is sometimes flexible and sometimes very strict. Look and you will see it. For example he condemned the man who was accused of incest with his step-mother, and that was without following the civil law of Moses. In other words if it was a false accusation or a slander, the man was killed anyway. Theologians who have examined it have agreed the man was killed after Paul condemned him. And without following any civil laws prescribed in Deuteronomy.

Do you see it? If you look you'll see it elsewhere.

Others have seen that men were not under the law but were under grace. But women were still under the law (the oral tradition of Pharisees).

Still others have seen that Paul slandered angels by falsely claiming they gave an inferior law to the children of Israel. But then he elevated Roman civil government authorities by calling them ordained ministers for good and calling for unqualified obedience to them.

Look for the alternating flexibility and strictness and you will find it. In each case the flexibility is in regards to God's law while the strictness is in regard to man's law and tradition.

Jesus said beware of the leaven of the Pharisees. Paul said he was a Pharisee. Jesus said to beware of blind guides. Paul said he was blinded on the road to Damascus. Some think his thorn in his flesh was trouble with his eye sight, but that is speculation.

Anonymous said...

Once saved always saved?

2 Peter 2
King James Version

2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)

9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities [angels].

11 Whereas angels
, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.


12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;

14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.

17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.

18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Anonymous said...

Had a dream back twenty years ago our crew got a job painting the Capitol. Hmmm, just a lowly painter? Well it was the Capitol after all. Then last night I dreamt I was in the Capitol and it was in bad shape. A 8 paneled door with a cracked panel with tape on it. The baseboards were flaking and there was a pop can and dust bunnies laying there. What happened to this place? I was ashamed for the politicians milling about absent any decorum.

Anonymous said...

1 Corinthians 12:3
King James Version

3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Matthew 7:21-23
King James Version

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity [anomia in Greek, lawlessness in English, contrary to the Torah (law of Moses) to a Hebrew mind].

Anonymous said...

Does anybody know how to comprehend what the prophet Zechariah was saying in this scripture?

Zechariah 11:10-12
King James Version

10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.

11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the Lord.

12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.


Zecharyah 11:10-12
Orthodox Jewish Bible

10 And I took my staff, even No’am, and I broke it asunder, breaking off my Brit (covenant) which I had made with kol ha’amim (all the peoples).

11 And it was broken on that day; and so the aniyei hatzon (poor of the flock), who were the shomrim giving heed to me, perceived that this was the Devar Hashem.

12 And I said unto them, If ye think tov, give me my sachar (price); and if not, refrain. So they weighed out for my sachar (price) shloshim kesef (thirty pieces of silver).

Anonymous said...

The Non-Denial Denial: David Weiss And Prosecutorial Nihilism

"All things are matters of mere interpretation and whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth"

Friedrich Nietzsche

This describes the current techno Beastly System perfectly. Only Christ can fix this!

Why does Cumbey fret over Trump possibly being the AC? Does she have a dog in the fight?

zerohedge.com/political/non-denial-denial-david-weiss-and-prosecutorial-nihilism

Anonymous said...

Read all of the books of Zechariah ASAP. I can't believe I missed Zechariah all this time.

Anonymous said...

Apparently last night the US sank Iran’s one and only aircraft carrier.

Biden ain’t messing around.

X

Anonymous said...

Daniel Chapter 8.

Bye Bye Miss American Pie.

Anonymous said...

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/11/13/watch-israel-uncovers-hamas-hq-in-childrens-hospital-weapons-evidence-of-hostages/



JERUSALEM, Israel — The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) released a video Monday night showing evidence that the Palestinian Hamas terror organization used the Al-Rantisi Hospital for Children in western Gaza to house weapons and perhaps hostages.

Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari, the IDF spokesman, visited the site of the hospital and showed that it was near the home of a Hamas naval commando leader, which was also close to a school, putting both of those civilian sites in danger. Hagari also showed a tunnel next to the commando leader’s house, which was supplied with electricity from solar panels. Hagari noted that the IDF was using robots to probe the tunnel and had already found that it led to a bulletproof door that was reinforced against explosions.

Who does these kinds of things?

Hamas acts worse than animals.
God save Israel from their clutches.....

They hate Israel and they hate America.

Anonymous said...

I still don't completely know what it means, but I found a commentary about "thirty pieces of silver."

I had raised the question earlier as to what this prophecy by Zechariah means.


Zechariah 11:10-12
King James Version

10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.

11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the Lord.

12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.

This is the commentary I found. It comments on the three other times "thirty pieces of silver" are found in the Bible.

https://www.crosswalk.com/special-coverage/easter/the-meaning-behind-the-30-pieces-of-silver-that-judas-received.html

1) In Exodus, thirty pieces of silver was the price paid if a slave was gored by an ox. It covered the slave's burial.

2) Judas betrayed Jesus for thirty pieces of silver.

3) Zechariah was paid thirty pieces of silver for his wages for being a shepherd. He gave a sarcastic response, because his employers had meant to insult him. God then tells him to throw it to the potter.

(I saw in a video a man claim Zechariah prophesied about the New Covenant being broken in the future. Now I'm relieved that's not what had been prophesied.)

Anonymous said...

8:13 AM

"Jesus was a Jew" naw, He was the Son of God. God definitely is not Jewish. The whole Jesus Was A Jew trope came about 1967ish and grew throughout the 197Os via Hal Lindsay et al. So in my opinion claiming Jesus Was A Jew was and is purely a political maneuver to bring Christians into the Israeli camp.

Anonymous said...

Your complete lack of understanding of Scripture is incredible.

Just go on ahead and admit you don't know the Bible, or the Author of it, 8:47 PM.


Is that your way to excuse hating Jewish people?


The Lord picked a particular people to come from heaven to earth so He could be Savior for all people. Why does it bother you so much that He chose to be born through the ancient promises He gave to Israel?

Craig said...

John 1 provides assistance (KJV):

11 He came unto his own [people], and his own [people] received him not.

The “his own” here refers to the Jewish people. By and large, they rejected their Messiah.


12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.



The Law of Moses, BUT GRACE and TRUTH.

Grace and Truth. Belief in His Name is superior to the Mosaic Law. God provided the Law to Moses (Old Covenant/Testament); BUT God provided his Son (New Covenant/Testament).



Anonymous said...

Haven't you ever wondered why is it that there is a Epistle to the Hebrews but not a Epistle to the Jews?

PS: back in the day I thought 'My boss is a Jewish Carpenter' bumper stickers were cool but I doubt any of the Apostles would ever utter such nonsense) - :



Anonymous said...

For example: Saint Andrew the Apostle (the First Called)

"Andrew, while en route to the place of his execution, and seeing the cross waiting for him, never changed his expression, nor did he stumble in his words. With his bold faith maintained, he said, “Oh cross, most welcome and longed for, with a willing mind, joyfully and desirously I come to you being the scholar of him which did hang on you because I have always been your lover and yearn to embrace you.”

https://blogs.blueletterbible.org/blb/2011/04/25/faithful-to-the-end-andrew-embracing-the-cross-of-jesus/

Be careful of the Holy Name of Jesus

Anonymous said...

2:38 AM


????

The name people are called by is not the point. God uses both of those names in His Word. Do we know better than God? His Spirit spoke those words to be written by select men through the ages of time (see 2 Timothy 3:16) and we have a Bible today because God saw to it that the world would have the Truth. It was miraculously God breathed so we could know we have a Savior, Jesus Christ the Lord.

The Scripture tell us that God chose the Jews, the Hebrew people, to showcase His faithfulness and forgiveness through the sacrificial system of the Old Covenant given to the Jewish people, was the forerunner to His coming as a man, as the perfect Son of Man and holy Son of God, He Himself became the New Covenant, the Lamb of God, to save an entire world.


Reading the entire Bible through year to year it brings it all home to you. The whole counsel of God unfolds in the most glorious Plan that could only be God's idea, could only have been carried out by Him. There is no room for pride against God or our fellowman when we see how high and holy it is.

And He will return. The Canon is complete, the Plan is in progress, still some fulfillment to come, but in Revelation He said: "It is done!".
And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts.


Is anyone thirsty???

The first time He came it was to forgive. When He returns He will return in fury against those who rejected the truth, rejecting their own, their only salvation.

Anonymous said...

Craig 9:24 PM,

In Hebrew, the Greek word "faith" is better translated as "faithfulness." In Hebrew it can't be two separate words at all. Paul used the Septaguint. It poorly translated some words. Apparently Paul didn't know Hebrew. Apparently James did.

Some translations don't translate words appropriately in John, either.

Jesus' Parable of the Farmer Scattering Seed, sometimes also called Parable of the Seeds and Soil, is fully consistent with James but not fully consistent with Paul. It is diametrically opposed to Paul.

Maybe part of Paul's problem was the Septuagint. He did not appropriately quote the Old Testament. In fact, he allegorically inverted the story of Abraham, Sara and Hagar, and Isaac and Ishmael. He denied the plural sense of Abraham's seed as used in the Old Testament. Does it mean we can't speak of people being the daughters or sons of Sara or Abraham spiritually? Of course not. Any more than we need to be too literal when talking of being "of your father the devil." But Paul told the story wrongly to gentiles, most of whom couldn't read.

What gave him the right to abrogate it with a hadith in the Holy Bible? Did you know Tertullian only left Paul in the canon because his letters were edifying, but he taught that if Paul contradicts Jesus, you don't consider Paul's letters the very word of God and allow them to override Jesus? Did you know the first three centuries Paul's letters were not read by Christians much except in the heresy known as Marcionism?

I'm not commenting on the rest of your comment, just the part about the translations. I thought you'd be able to appreciate that part, and I hope that you will. I would be interested in your feedback. If you study it yourself you'll likely be able to articulate far better than I just did in my summary. Please do see where the texts and translations lead when they are done as faithfully as possible, because I expect you sincerely try to do so.

I am not attacking atonement, forgiveness or mercy; nor do I negate that Jesus told a parable about pouring new wine into new wineskins, not old wineskins. Clearly Jesus, when he RENEWED the SAME covenant, did what Jeremiah prophesied and told and showed how to write the law on the heart.

BECAUSE Jesus atoned once and for all time, he forgives. Because he forgave us, we forgive. Because we were loved, we love. Because we were shown mercy, we show mercy. No more "eye for an eye." That is very clear.

James told Paul in Acts that the Jerusalem Apostolic church believed that they are also saved by grace. There is no doubt about it. Absolutely no doubt. But please, please, please look into the Hebrew word for "faith" which can't be separated from "faithful" in the Hebrew tongue. I am eager to know your feedback about it.

Anonymous said...

P.S. Craig,

I'd love you to look into the Greek aorist tense for believes in Romans 10:9.

Then look into the use of the Greek present indicative active or present participle active in John.

For example, in John 5:24, I'd like to know if you think that John's present participle active was correctly translated into English in the KJV and other translations.

If anybody besides Craig wants to participate in this discussion, you can download the Interlinear Scripture Analyzer freely and take a shot at it.

I'm getting at the difference between "faith" and "faithful" in English and Greek, whereas there is no difference in the Hebrew tongue. There is no such thing in Hebrew as "faith" without "faithful."

Therefore Abraham could not have been said in the Old Testament to have been justified before God by a one time mental assent to believing in God. Yet Paul built a philosophy on top of this as if it is axiomatic that Abraham only had faith and it was enough without being faithful.

Anonymous said...

Hint for today: horses don't really like pumpkin spice muffins

Craig said...

Anon 10:45/55 AM,

I neither have the time nor the inclination to follow your (mis)adventures here.

You wrote: If anybody besides Craig wants to participate in this discussion, you can download the Interlinear Scripture Analyzer freely and take a shot at it.

This is reckless. Wingin' it ain't gonna cut it.

One must take a fair amount of time to study Koine Greek grammar and syntax generally, then look to the immediate AND the larger context of any given passage, in order to fully exegete Scripture. One doesn't just "take a shot at it". And one should have an excellent grasp of ALL the relevant issues before one just presumes this or that translation is wrong.

How many books have you read on Koine Greek grammar and syntax, to include verbal aspect and its impact on temporal reference and with respect to semantics as separate from pragmatics? How many works have you read on the various ways in which voice and mood are used?

Anonymous said...

10:45 AM

Apostle Peter did not disagree with the Pauline Letters.
He supported them.
2 Peter 3:16 says: ..as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.

Are you one of those Peter describes as one who twists Scripture?

Paul's letters to the Church are part of the canon because God said so. Not you.
The Spirit gave those words to Paul to give to us all.

2 Tim. 3 Verses 16 to 17 [16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. Works that are righteous because of the the Spirit in us, Who is God and Who is good, so we can do those good things that come from faith in God because He is the Author and Finisher of the faith He gave us.

Where did you get 'authority' to discredit Apostle Paul?
Unless you believe in salvation through works of your own instead of faith in the Lord's atoning death and resurrection that gives us the power to even do what is good. That is the faith of the Gospel which produces faithfulness...... (and Paul gave strong warning to 'foolish Galatians' of this very thing)?

Is Jesus Lord to you or isn't He?
Our faith is to be in Jesus, not a jesus + me 'faith'.

Anonymous said...

1:17 PM,

Jesus is Lord to me. He told me you can't serve two masters. He said you will love one and hate the other. Please don't condemn me for obeying his command that he be the only teacher, the only pastor and only master.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS ISN'T ABOUT PLEASURE VS. IT IS MOSTLY
ABOUT SPIRITUAL BENEFIT.


paul was taught directly by Jesus in the desert

all things are lawful context is eating not tn commandments.

Anonymous said...

Christine 2:17 PM,

Why didn't Paul quote something Jesus told him in the desert?

Anonymous said...

P.S. Christine,

I'm glad you commented. You've divulged her that you're a member of the Orthodox church. I've read that the Orthodox church has historically been the least compromised by Pauline epistles as compared with the Roman Catholic church and the Reformation churches.

It was Augustine who influenced the Roman Catholic church with the Pauline epistles, but the RCC still never completely marginalized its older adherence to the gospel and apostolic teachings.

When Luther and Calvin came along, they had a distinct preference for the Pauline epistles. They weren't wrong in trying to return to the Word, but they failed to consider how the canon had been formed in the first place, and it was by the very church they were opposing.

Anonymous said...

I've been accused of a "Jesus + me" salvation belief. That is rather vague but I will try to guess at precisely what I have been accused of and answer it. I don't believe I can earn salvation. I believe I became a bondservant of Jesus because he redeemed me. But now that he is my master I must be faithful to him. I don't think I earned anything, but I think I can lose what was given to me. He told me so. The sprout can wither before it bears fruit (works). He said so. Endurance is necessary. Perseverance is necessary. Why else should we exhort (encourage) each other?

Anonymous said...

Moreover, lapsing is worse than never having known better in the first place.

Steadfastness matters. There is a proverb about the sow returning to the mud puddle after being washed clean and about the dog returning to his vomit.

Then there is the parable in Matthew about the return of the unclean spirit to the house that had been swept clean. It brings seven more with it. The last state of that person is worse than the first.

To whom much is given much is expected.

How clear can it be? How many ways does it need to be said?

Why else was that last generation of unsaved remnant (versus saved remnant) of the house of Judah (not the house of Israel) judged as it was by its house being left to it desolate?

(It should not have to be said that anti-Semitism is evil, because of it would always be evil already to view any whole group as an ink blot test to project hate and paranoia onto and to scapegoat. But whatever the current Jews are (even if they are not a religion per se en toto or an ethnicity per se en toto), it is the symbol of what they are that is hated. They identify with the house of Judah, and it is still evil to hate people for symbolizing the house of Judah. There is no mental acrobatics to excuse it. Just because they identify with what they have grown up being taught are their ancestral roots does not justify targeting them or scapegoating them. Satan has a historic vendetta against them. Don't be his child. And he doesn't get to judge them. Only God does. God already did it, just like he said he would.)

Anonymous said...

Craig 12:55 PM,

I didn't expect the anger from somebody like you about a subject like this. Did you think I was trolling you or something? I'm sorry if it came across that way.

You're wrong this is either an adventure or a misadventure to me. This is deadly serious to me. But I will bother you no longer about it, as you wish.

Anonymous said...

Arrogant Craig.

Anonymous said...

1:57 PM

This is 1:17 PM.

I posed questions to you. They are not flat statements that condemn you. How you feel about being questioned is yours..

But they are pertinent to the topic and I think you should answer the question is the Bible the inerrant Word of God?? Every bit of the canon--all 66 books--that include Paul's writings that you find hard to understand is it all God's Word written by the Holy Spirit who moved men to pen the script, is this what you believe?
And so what? We need our faith to trust what God said don't we? You don't understand something so you diss it, is that what I can read from your posts? Are you the one who doesn't like the idea of Jesus being a Jew? Or Paul being Jewish too, is that problematic to you because that's a problem alright.
We all have things to read in the Bible that have us wondering but to say Paul did not speak by the Holy Spirit--therefore he spoke in error is rightly to be challenged. By myself or anyone else who knows God's Word is our Authority, whether we understand it all or not. We see through a glass darkly at present on some things, but the main things are the plain things and the plain things are the main things so it is right to challenge just what angle you are coming from.

Anonymous said...

4:49 PM,

I have made many comments already relevant to your questions, before you ever posed them. They are right here in this very comment thread. Did you read anything at all I wrote about Deuteronomy? Anything at all about the concept of the canon within a canon in both Old and New Testament? Anything I said about "red letter bibles"?

No, I'm not at all the one who doesn't like the idea of Jesus being a Jew.

No, I don't believe the Pauline epistles are inerrant; and in fact, I believe the Holy Bible makes much better unified sense without them. Paul contradicted Jesus at least 25 times. He contradicted himself many times. Paul's salvation doctrine differs from that of Jesus in the gospels. It differs from the epistles of Peter, James and Jude.

I believe that GOD'S WORDS are inerrant. To the extent they were correctly recorded and preserved and translated, yes, they are inerrant.

I DO NOT put PAUL'S WORDS above JESUS' WORDS. Jesus was quoted by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Jesus was not quoted by Paul much if ever. As I asked Christine, why didn't Paul quote something Jesus taught him in the desert? Once Paul wrote that it's better to give than to receive.

Did you read anything at all I wrote about during the first three centuries of early church history, Paul's epistles weren't widely read or circulated?

I feel like I've already exhaustively (for a comment on a blog) answered your questions and you've paid no attention to what I wrote before you even posed your own questions to me.

Anonymous said...

Are THESE scriptures ERRANT?

"The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

"Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts." Questions: Does this logicially imply if you asked NOT amiss--from righteous motivations--you could receive? Dare I say it might be conditional on "Jesus and me" in this sense?

"Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered." There it is again. It looks like for the husbands, it's also a case of "Jesus and me" in a sense, rightly understood.

"But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." It doesn't sound like a completely lazy version of faith to me!

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." How would this be perfectly just to judge people according to their completely predestined works? This would be to believe in Calvin's double predestination doctrine, which makes GOD THE AUTHOR OF EVIL!!!

Anonymous said...

We disagree.
Paul's letters perfectly align with the rest of Scripture.

I answered one particular post. I don't know what other posts were yours or weren't.
I asked you those questions based on the Word of God, the Bible, with proper quotes from it, and leave you with your incomplete version bible.

I'm done.

Anonymous said...

5:27 PM,

This is what I wrote at 8:13 AM, and I will now add that if the Holy Spirit automatically preserves and establishes the canon, why the need for firm direction to human beings in Deuteronomy?

Why don't we test words that are added to the canon, the same way the Old Testament law in Deuteronomy prescribed?

Salvation is of the Jews. Jesus was a Jew. He didn't abrogate Moses. The Old Testament law is foundational. What do we have without it as a basis for any divine authority?

Apostolic Succession as in the Catholic church?

A magic book as with Protestants, who conveniently ignore the Catholic church chose the works to include in the canon and exclude from it?

A third option, and the biblical option, is to follow the law in Deuteronomy. If a prophet, even a true prophet who works signs and wonders, contradicts Moses, he is to be considered henceforth apostate.

The principle is you don't contradict later the things that were revealed before! That's what the Muslims do! They teach some hadiths abrogate others! How are we making our Holy Bible better than their Qur'an if we let Paul abrogate Moses and Jesus!

Anonymous said...

12:55 PM

Some random thoughts. . .

Something from the oral tradition was lost when writing was invented, just as something's been lost when the printing press marked the demise of the monastery scribes, and, also, I think the Internet will be the end of churches as we know them.

Anyway Craig, very interesting about 'verbal aspect' & 'various ways in which voice and mood are used'. I think the growth of silent reading, (one negative aspect of the printing press), is way overrated. I find reading aloud helpful. Even copying (pen & paper) gives a better understanding in some cases, (through our Lord trouble with some Scribes) - :

I mean, after all, wasn't the mandate to proclaim the Gospel?

PS: the Torah is always hand written.

Anonymous said...

I misquoted John 4:22 going off memory. It's in the context of Jesus' conversation with the Samaritan woman at the well. Quoting John better ("from the Jews," not "of the Jews"):

John 4:21-22
English Standard Version

21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews.

It's so easy to gloss over it. How did the Jews worship what they know? Because of God's revelations to them in their history. It's the foundation of the Christian faith.

Foundations are important!

Matthew 7:24-27
English Standard Version

Build Your House on the Rock

24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”

What came just before this in Matthew?

"And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’"

Coincidence? What does lawlessness mean to a Hebrew mind? Any guesses?

Paul taught the law of Moses was inferior because it was given to men by mere angels. Yes, he did. He really did it. Don't do mental gymnastics to explain it away. Don't be gaslit. Don't gaslight.

Anonymous said...

While on the subject of foundations...

Revelation 21:14
English Standard Version

14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

Matthias replaced Judas. Not Paul. Please notice this part below: "So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, 22 beginning from the baptism of John until the day when he was taken up from us—one of these men must become with us a witness to his resurrection.”

Acts 1:12-26
English Standard Version
Matthias Chosen to Replace Judas

12 Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day's journey away. 13 And when they had entered, they went up to the upper room, where they were staying, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot and Judas the son of James. 14 All these with one accord were devoting themselves to prayer, together with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.[a]

15 In those days Peter stood up among the brothers (the company of persons was in all about 120) and said, 16 “Brothers, the Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit spoke beforehand by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who became a guide to those who arrested Jesus. 17 For he was numbered among us and was allotted his share in this ministry.” 18 (Now this man acquired a field with the reward of his wickedness, and falling headlong[b] he burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out. 19 And it became known to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that the field was called in their own language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.) 20 “For it is written in the Book of Psalms,

“‘May his camp become desolate,
and let there be no one to dwell in it’;

and

“‘Let another take his office.’

21 So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, 22 beginning from the baptism of John until the day when he was taken up from us—one of these men must become with us a witness to his resurrection.” 23 And they put forward two, Joseph called Barsabbas, who was also called Justus, and Matthias. 24 And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which one of these two you have chosen 25 to take the place in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place.” 26 And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

Anonymous said...

Are all the words equal in the Bible, no matter through whom they came? Or do some of God's messengers have more authority than others?

Numbers 12:1-14
English Standard Version
Miriam and Aaron Oppose Moses

12 Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married, for he had married a Cushite woman. 2 And they said, “Has the Lord indeed spoken only through Moses? Has he not spoken through us also?” And the Lord heard it. 3 Now the man Moses was very meek, more than all people who were on the face of the earth. 4 And suddenly the Lord said to Moses and to Aaron and Miriam, “Come out, you three, to the tent of meeting.” And the three of them came out. 5 And the Lord came down in a pillar of cloud and stood at the entrance of the tent and called Aaron and Miriam, and they both came forward. 6 And he said, “Hear my words: If there is a prophet among you, I the Lord make myself known to him in a vision; I speak with him in a dream. 7 Not so with my servant Moses. He is faithful in all my house. 8 With him I speak mouth to mouth, clearly, and not in riddles, and he beholds the form of the Lord. Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?” 9 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against them, and he departed.

10 When the cloud removed from over the tent, behold, Miriam was leprous,[a] like snow. And Aaron turned toward Miriam, and behold, she was leprous. 11 And Aaron said to Moses, “Oh, my lord, do not punish us[b] because we have done foolishly and have sinned. 12 Let her not be as one dead, whose flesh is half eaten away when he comes out of his mother's womb.” 13 And Moses cried to the Lord, “O God, please heal her—please.” 14 But the Lord said to Moses, “If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be shamed seven days? Let her be shut outside the camp seven days, and after that she may be brought in again.”

Anonymous said...

Which witnesses other than Paul say that Paul is at this same level?

John 15:15
English Standard Version

15 No longer do I call you servants,[a] for the servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you.


Part of the law of Moses was that two or three witnesses establish a matter. Jesus is consistent with this.


Matthew 18:16
English Standard Version

16 But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses.

Anonymous said...

How do you explain this?

2 Corinthians 12:7-9
English Standard Version

7 So to keep me from becoming conceited because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations,[a] a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from becoming conceited. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

Anonymous said...

I remember teachers frowning on the simple kids (who were likely more likely to hold a firm faith BTW) at school who moved their lips when reading to themselves. A few years back while at jury duty I was typing on my smart phone and a Asian lady noticed my how slowly I typed and turned away with revolt as if she had caught me moving my lips while reading.

Paul, with his great learning, probably had his, I don't know, ego? pricked having to dealing with big lumbering fishermen, etc.

Anonymous said...

PS: now I wish I'd paid attention in English class ( - :

Anonymous said...

Constance did you know Mianne Williamson is on the democratic ticket.

Anonymous said...

Marianne Williamson is a big time new ager.

Anonymous said...

Someone here said Joe sunk a sub.

Where did he do that, in his bathtub?

Anonymous said...

Faith that saves is from God, in God. We are saved by faith, not of works, lest any many should boast. Paul wrote in Eph 2 to spell this out.
So faithfulness is the by-product, the outflow, of a heart that believes and trusts God, loves Him because He first loved us.

We can't have true faithfulness to Jesus Christ until we have faith in Him. Paul taught that too, just like James did. They go hand in hand. In a nutshell, Jesus in me will show me how to act like Jesus to the world. None of the writers of the NT disagree.
I'm glad the Spirit prays for us and we must pray ourselves! Romans 8:26. (Paul again)

Because the proof of real belief in the Lord is fruit of the Spirit expressed in our everyday behavior in our everyday circumstances. This is what our faith should look like just as Paul wrote by inspiration of God's Spirit.
Galatians 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
There was no law against Jesus because He kept it perfectly, and kept it in our behalf because we flunked. I'm also glad the Bible told me so so I could believe and live what I believe.




Perfect Jesus died like a sinner (me) so I could live forever like I hadn't.

Now that should make me want to live my faith..be obedient and faithful..

My 5 year old knows this better than many adults.

Anonymous said...

The Lost Art of Speaking Silence

https://youtu.be/4YahNjEXXeQ?si=KJxAtf5v-Y7c5nE1

Anonymous said...

12:28 AM,

Tertullian the church father thought Paul's words were not canon but were edifying and were okay to leave in the Bible for what people might glean from them, just so long as they didn't choose any of Paul's more confusing or fictional words over and above the much greater authority of Moses, Jesus, or Jesus' chosen messengers the twelve apostles.

The Bible tells me that God told Miriam and Aaron that Moses had more authority because he was spoken to with more clarity by God. Moses was given the prophecy about a man called simply the Prophet who would have even greater clarity than Moses, to whom God only spoke intermittently.

The Bible tells me God worked through Moses in the first place because most of the children of Israel were too terrified to directly listen to God. The Bible tells me the Prophet would be a man whose every word would be God's word. The Bible never said this of any other man, not even Moses.

It's not a matter of my authority. It's a matter of my recognition of what God's word reveals about who has most authority and on what basis. The revealed principle is that the more clearly and fully you speak God's word, the more authority you have.

If Peter called Paul's words confusing, where does this place Paul in the hierarchy of authority taught by Moses?

Why wouldn't we refer to Moses even as New Covenant gentile Christians? Who taught us not to refer to Moses? Jesus didn't. Paul did. Who gave Paul the authority to do this? Did Jesus give Paul greater authority in the desert, in secret, than God gave to Moses or than Jesus gave openly to the twelve? Don't you remember Jesus said he had taught nothing in secret?

You have ignored that Paul taught in Galatians that the angels gave Moses the law and it was therefore inferior. You have ignored that Miriam was stricken with leprosy for seven days because she didn't respect that Moses had more authority than she had, due to Moses being given God's clear words. You have ignored that if God punished Miriam for disrespecting the authority given to Moses as God's spokesman, why would he give Paul a pass for it?

I've stated this all clearly enough so that you can take it or leave it. I just didn't want anything I've said to be misconstrued. I'll abide in the peace of mind give to me by the Parable of the Tares and not take upon myself more striving to win arguments than Jesus took upon himself.

It has become clear to me that Moses was a spokesman, the apostles were messengers and that every other Christian is properly a spreader of the words of the spokesman and the messengers and not to go beyond those.

People are free to pick the seeds they want to allow to sprout in the soil of their souls. People are free to pick the water they want to drink, whether it's the living water or the water poisoned by wormwood. If you prefer a little bit of wormwood water mixed into your pure living water, far be it from me to endlessly strive against you when Jesus himself saw fit to give everybody that choice.

God saw fit to place the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil in the garden. Far be it from me to chop down the tree or to rip all its fruits off and toss them over the garden wall.

From what you've said I think you've held to the very principles I've stated even though you may not be aware of it. You've simply kept on ignoring the contradictions so that you can continue maintaining the inerrancy of every word that Paul ever wrote in a letter to anybody, with scribes and partners collaborating. That is your choice.

I won't pretend about it, but I'm not the Philosopher King of the whole world. It doesn't really matter to any of you here if I pretend about it or not, except insofar as my honesty before Jesus on Judgement Day. I have no authority, but I recognize the authority that God himself delegated in the ways he told me he did. I will continue doing so steadfastly. That is all for now.

Anonymous said...

Just in case my reference to the Prophet spoken of by Moses and recorded in Deuteronomy wasn't clear. The only man of whom it was ever said that every word he ever spoke would come from God. The only man. Note that well.

In Deuteronomy 18:15, it was said of this Prophet that "you must listen to him." When Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, a voice from above said that Jesus is his beloved son and he is well pleased. And then said, "Listen to him."

Anonymous said...

To make it clear as can be. God couldn't speak directly to the children of Israel because he scared them too much. He chose Moses to be his spokesman for this reason. But he only spoke to Moses intermittently. Later he would send the Son (the Prophet) whose every word would be from God. People wouldn't be frightened of the Son. He would be able to speak to all the people face to face. He would leave behind his chosen messengers, who were not to go beyond his words. They were to be messengers of his words.

Anonymous said...

One more thing. If Muslims claim Mohammad to be this Prophet we have, what? What is it? Can you guess? Why, it's the Judeo, yes, Judeo foundation of Judeo-Christian, what, history! Yes, history. In other words, it is...Jewish heritage.

We say we have a magic book, but so do they.

I just don't want anything I've said to be misconstrued. If you really clearly understand what I've said and you disagree, fine. But I've so far felt almost completely misunderstood in this discussion, and that's okay, it happens. But if I'm clear then at least I don't have to blame myself. So that's it then.

Anonymous said...

Europe Is Burning

zerohedge.com/geopolitical/europe-burning

Anonymous said...

Nikki Haley Takes Fire Over 'Unconstitutional-Plan' To Force All Social Media Users To Be "Verified By Name"

Ot just a number

Or a barcode...

zerohedge.com/political/nikki-haley-takes-fire-over-unconstitutional-plan-force-all-social-media-users-be

Anonymous said...

Who killed Jesus? Rich men or Jews?

James 5:1-6
King James Version

5 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.

3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.

4 Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.

5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

6 Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.

Anonymous said...

Who killed Jesus? Rich men or Jews?

1 Thessalonians 2:14-16
King James Version

14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:

15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

Anonymous said...



10:19 AM 10:22 AM

Why are you adding (your emphasis) to the Bible? If your argument is so weak you have to change things to suit yourself (because we're so dumb?) you have no argument IMO

Anonymous said...

A skip to the last paragraph. . .

"An egregore – which means “watcher” in ancient Greek – is a thought form brought into existence by a group. As Tomberg tells us, there are no “good” egregores, only “evil” ones. They can be “engendered by the collective will and imagination of nations,” Tomberg writes, but the aims of an egregore are always selfish, centred exclusively on gaining power and growing stronger at the expense of its creators. Once brought into existence, an egregore is harder to “dissolve” than a tulpa, given that it is the work of a group. This can be a cabal of occultists, or a political party – hence their inclusion in Dark Star Rising, which looks at the resurgence of a kind of “occult politics” in recent times. This seems to have raised its head during the run up to the US presidential election of 2016, and has remained on the scene since. It has also been at work in Russia.

Should we take tulpas and egregores seriously? A good question. Tomberg certainly did, and as he tells us, the Devil is one Trump we should clearly keep an eye on."

https://www.gary-lachman.com/post/meditations-on-valentin-tomberg

I'm not endorsing this writer but thought it may be of interest to the owner and others

Anonymous said...

11:53 AM
I think this person means well but has a hitch in their "get-along" about Bible basics. Hopefully that irons out.

Anonymous said...

3:39 PM

Yes, I know, I was just being grumbly due to a toothache. I bet his Bible is highlighted, too. Sorry 10:19 AM & 10:22 AM, carry on

Anonymous said...

*please

Anonymous said...

Appreciate it 1:31 PM. Hard to read on cell phone, will get to it online later in the week. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

I am done trying to understand Trump supporters.

Are they stupid, ignorant, sociopathic, evil, confused, brainwashed... etc?

I don't care.

At this point, there is no excuse for still supporting Donald Trump.

At this point, anyone who still supports Trump is an awful person.

Craig said...

Regarding the post @ 1:31 PM, which is a snippet from a book authored by this Gary Lachman fellow, I’m trying to follow the author’s “logic”.

So, he traces a guy named Tomberg, a Rudolf Steiner devotee, and details this Tomberg character’s thoughts on the occult, specifically the Tarot. Tarot cards have 22 “major arcana cards”, which are called “trumps”. One of these, XV, is Le Diable, or The Devil in English. According to Tomberg’s musings, the Devil in the card can be conjured up by a group using Magick, i.e., thoughts/incantations. Such an entity conjured by a group is called an egregore. Once conjured—brought into ‘existence’—this particular entity, an egregore, is very difficult to ‘dissolve’.

The author then uses this backdrop to make his claim of a “resurgence of a kind of ‘occult politics’”, specifically surrounded Donald Trump and Russia/Putin, completely devoid of any reason or evidence that this can be legitimately claimed regarding Trump the person or Putin. He goes on to claim: This seems to have raised its head during the run up to the US presidential election of 2016, and has remained on the scene since. It has also been at work in Russia.

OK, so it’s a “kind of ‘occult politics’” and it “seems to have raised its head”. Where’s the proof, bud? All I read is assertions sans logical connections.

He then concludes—oh so ‘cleverly’—with:

Should we take tulpas and egregores seriously? A good question. Tomberg certainly did, and as he tells us, the Devil is one Trump we should clearly keep an eye on.

So, this occultist, this Steinberg devotee Tomberg muses about the Tarot, makes claims about the Le Diable “trump” card, and this Lachman character literalizes all this to the person of Trump?

It might make for entertaining reading for some, but I find the whole thing pretty ridiculous.


Anonymous said...

A nation of patsies

tierneyrealnewsnetwork.substack.com/p/a-nation-of-patsies

Anonymous said...

Acts 15:1-20
King James Version

15 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.

3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.

4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.

5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.

13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me:

14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,

16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.

19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:

20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Anonymous said...

Some commenters have said fornication should have been translated adultery but does not exclude any type of sexual immorality (i.e., "the marriage bed is undefiled").

It's plain as day. God is the same yesterday, today and forever. From first to last, God hated idolatry and adultery. From Genesis to Revelation.

Eve was the first idolater. The harlot riding the beast was the last adulterous betrothed (apostate Israel/church).

Why would (what some professing Christian pastors and theologians call) a "dispensation of grace" exclude idolatry or adultery?

Does anybody claim it can?

If it's that important, shouldn't it not be confusing? God had prophets say confusing words, but not Moses.

God's command to Adam and Eve in the garden was not confusing.

Jesus' warning to the some of the seven churches in Revelation is not confusing.

What say you? Do we get a free pass for blind faith in confusing words? Are you willing to bet your eternal life on it?

Anonymous said...

8:05 AM

Many find Tomburg perplexing, like St. Paul. Is it perhaps because the Russians understand suffering? IDK, but if your interested ask Roger Buck. He's a affable fellow.

https://corjesusacratissimum.org/

Anonymous said...

PS: I don't know about this Lachman character but the essay was current and the author was quoting a Catholic (Tomberg). Hope springs eternal ( - :

Anonymous said...

I know, I know, I know. Constance does not believe in conspiracy theories or rigged elections. And she's very, very smart. So I'm struggling to understand this:

350,000 Votes for the Republican in Pennsylvania’s 2023 Supreme Court Election Were Removed Without Reason

This is blatant voter fraud. Well, technically it’s ballot counting fraud. The 2023 election for Pennsylvania Supreme Court was decided by 200,000 votes. 350,000 votes for the Republican candidate were removed without a reason given.

It was stolen.

Here’s a video released by Audit the Vote PA that demonstrates what happened:

(you'll have to go to the site here in order to watch the video): https://thelibertydaily.com/350000-votes-republican-pennsylvanias-2023-supreme-court-election/

Anonymous said...

Constance was a speech writer for politicians which gives her special insight into anything and everything concerning current events and politicians. If she says elections aren't rigged, you can bet your life on it.

Anonymous said...

At this point, anyone who still supports Trump is an awful person.

8:27 PM

What's that make Biden supporters, angels?

Anonymous said...

Newsflash:

Scripture is spiritually discerned. The Holy Spirit will teach the humble, faithful person that has truly been born again of the Spirit of God. In order to sufficiently understand the Bible for all matters of faith, doctrine and practice, you do NOT need to study Koine Greek! Such a claim is nothing other than sophistry that is designed to put man on a pedestal, something that, quite frankly, Craig is famous for.

Anonymous said...

8:05 AM Craig,

That's two of us.

The author of confusion loves to fuss up everything to make sure people are distracted with speculations delving in nonsensical trivas and nuances, mere semantics too, and while he gets away with destructive actuals, in real time, with real people.

So many these days are all to willing to lend much attention to help the damned devil out...

Anonymous said...

1:57 PM

That has it's place too.

He isn't against the Bible, and Bible faith, in the slightest.

Anonymous said...

1:57 PM,

I agree with 3:22 PM about the study of New Testament era Greek having its place.

Anonymous said...

3:21 PM,

Grant called it weapons of mass distraction.

GrantNZ said...

Just was reflecting how the "christian" masses seem to be well and truly distracted with politics.

Anonymous said...

Matthew 24:24-26
King James Version

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.


John 18:20
King James Version

20 Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.

Anonymous said...

Romans 15:19
King James Version

19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.


Acts 22:17-18
King James Version

17 And it came to pass, that, when I was come again to Jerusalem, even while I prayed in the temple, [in a secret chamber?] I was in a trance;

18 And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they [the eleven apostles] will not receive thy testimony concerning me.

Anonymous said...

Galatians 1:17
King James Version

17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me [why not?]; but I went into Arabia [the desert?], and returned again unto Damascus.

Anonymous said...

Galatians 2:9-10
King James Version

9 And when James, Cephas [Peter], and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.


Acts 15:20

20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Anonymous said...

Acts 15:7

7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

Anonymous said...

Which is it? Did the eleven apostles agree to split their ministries up in this way, with Paul going only to gentiles and the eleven going only to Jews? Why then did Peter say that God had mad a choice among them that the gentiles by his mouth should hear the word of the gospel? Did Peter change his mind based on Paul's secret teachings in the desert?

Anonymous said...

“For some among the Gentiles have rejected my lawful preaching and have preferred a lawless and absurd doctrine of a man who is my adversary. And indeed some have attempted, while I am still alive to distort my word by interpretation of many sorts, as if I taught the dissolution of the Law … But that may God forbid! For to do such a thing means to act contrary to the Law of God which was made to Moses and was confirmed by our Lord in its everlasting continuance. For he said: ‘For heaven and earth will pass away, but not one jot or tittle shall pass away from the Law.” But these men, professing, I know not how, to know my mind, undertake to explain my words, which they have heard of me, more intelligently than I who spoke them, telling their students that the nullification of Torah is my intended meaning, which indeed I never thought of. But if, while I am still alive, they dare thus to misrepresent me, how much more will those who shall come after me dare to do so?

Excerpt from Peter’s letter to James from the Preface to The Clementine Homilies

Anonymous said...

Jesus said he came not to destroy the law but to fulfill the law. He didn't say exactly which laws he fulfilled but one can make inferences based on his words and the words of his messengers (apostles--just twelve of them) and to a much more inconsistent extent (maybe) his vessel Paul but only when Paul does not contradict Moses, Jesus or the twelve true apostles. (Only three of the true apostles wrote books in the New Testament--Matthew, John and Peter. But the true apostles appointed James to be Bishop of the Apostolic Jerusalem Messianic Jewish church. Jude succeeded James after James died.)

The Jesus quoted in the Paul stories, if it was really Jesus speaking, never called Paul his messenger. He called Paul his vessel. Every Christian is a vessel.

Apostle means messenger. The Holy Spirit was mainly given to the apostles to help them recall the words Jesus spoke to them.

No longer an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. Why? Because Jesus paid the sin debt for us so we must forgive the debts of our masters other servants, too. Not destroyed, but fulfilled.

No more animal sacrifices in the Jersualem temple to atone for the sins of the people. Jesus fulfilled the law as the once and for all perfect sacrificial lamb. Not destroyed, but fulfilled.

The ten commandments. Nailed to the cross? Jeremiah prophesied that in the New Covenant, the law would be written in the hearts of the people, and they would be given a heart to obey it. Not destroyed. Not nailed to the cross as Paul said.

The law for sojourners living in Israel. They didn't need to keep all the same observances but they had to avoid idolatry and adultery. The apostles and James in Acts were consistent with this when Paul came up to Jerusalem to raise the question of whether heathen converts need to be circumcised. No, they don't need to be circumcized. Yes, we affirm they are saved by grace just as we are. We believe they have the Holy Spirit just as we do. BUT they SHOULD NOT eat meat sacrificed to idols.

The snake hissed, instead of delivering the message he was supposed to deliver, "Did God really say that?"

The Orthodox church continued to keep the Sabbath holy and to observe Sabbath rest, although worshiping on Sunday. The Orthodox church is the only church in the whole world that exists right now that traces an unbroken line back to James the Bishop of the first Jersualem Messianic Jewish Apostolic church.

Later the Orthodox church transgressed beyond the words of Jesus and Moses by teaching that Mary was a perpetual virgin, that prayer requests to Mary and Saints so that they will intercede are encouraged, and that icons are somehow charged with a holy energy.

But the doctrines of the Orthodox church are more pure, comparatively, than any other church in the world. They have been less compromised by the Pauline epistles than any other church.

The gentile Christians who did not transgress beyond the words of the first messengers of Jesus and of their appointed bishops, DID keep the Sabbath holy even though they worshiped on Sunday.

I think we can learn a lot from the Orthodox church even though it is marred by compromises appearing in the form of doctrines about Mary and Saints and traditions regarding icons. Those should be ignored I believe because they transgress beyond the words of Jesus and his messengers.

Anonymous said...

Thought provoking. I don't agree with everything on this Judaism vs. Christianity web site, but I see nothing wrong with those who have a Jewish heritage, who subsequently convert to Christianity, being no less Torah observant than the first Messianic Jewish Apostolic church of Jerusalem was.

If you read this paper what you will learn is that Marx was a Christian who turned against God, blaming God for evil in the world, because of the Pauline doctrine of predestination, which Paul had learned from Greeks. Marx set out to serve Satan and fight God, because he believed that an all powerful God who purposed all of the evil in the world was an evil God.

Marx wanted people to be atheists, but he was no more an atheist than Satan is an atheist. Marx turned hateful toward God and toward all of mankind. Marx saw himself as more righteous than God, because he saw God as evil by snatching good away from him.

Is Paul Responsible for Marxism?!

https://www.judaismvschristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Is-Paul-Responsible-for-Marxism.pdf

Anonymous said...

To add to the summary above, Marx believed that he was predestined to hell, anyway.

Anonymous said...

Did you know one of your founding fathers wrote this? Thomas Jefferson did.

“Paul was the great Coryphaeus, and first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus.”
-Thomas Jefferson, From a letter to W. Short published in The Great Thoughts by George Sildes (Ballantine Books, New York, 1985, p.208)


“I can never join Calvin in addressing his God. He was indeed an atheist, which I
can never be; or rather his religion was demonism. If ever a man worshiped a
false God, he did. The being described in his five points, is not the God whom
you and I acknowledge and adore, the Creator and benevolent governor of the
world, but a demon of malignant spirit. It would be more pardonable to believe in
no God at all, than to blaspheme Him by the atrocious attributes of Calvin.”

Thomas Jefferson —To J. Adams, 1823

Anonymous said...

Matthew 7:16-23
King James Version

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity [translated from Greek word "anomia" meaning lawlessness meaning the utter disregard for God's laws].

Anonymous said...

@9:19 AM kinda kills the argument for christian nationalism, wouldn't ya say?

Anonymous said...

9:44 AM,

Sorry, could you rephrase your question?

Are you asking whether I think my Jefferson quote kills the argument that America was not founded as a Christian nation?

Another thing I noticed is that the Lutherans of Germany during the time of the Nazis were powerfully influenced by the Pauline epistle scriptures telling people to absolutely submit to the government as ordained ministers for good. That plus the Pauline epistle scriptures that are the most notoriously anti-Semitic.

The Lutheran Bonhoeffer, in contrast, was more Gospel influenced and less Pauline influenced. He was martyred by the Nazis, but not before leaving behind his powerful witness in his writings.

I don't know what to say. I'm just trying to notice the seeds, the sprouts and the fruits that are growing in the fields.

Anonymous said...

I've read that Evangelicals are more Pauline than previous generations of Protestants. Previous generations have done more mental acrobatics to reconcile Paul to the rest of the Bible. American Evangelicals have been taught in seminaries that the Gospels and the twelve apostles applied to the dispensation of the Law. Paul applies to the dispensation of grace. Therefore everything he wrote is the most relevant to gentile Christians. I haven't verified this claim.

Everybody who reads the Bible can still read the Gospels freely no matter if Paul is preached thirteen times more often from the pulpit than Jesus is, so I'm not saying every individual who identifies as Evangelical is choosing Paul over Jesus.

What's different about American Evangelical Paulists is that they regard their beliefs as a mark of conservatism and orthodoxy. Previously in the history of Christendom Paulists were regarded as heretics. One example is Marcionism for example. Armenian Paulicians serve as a second example.

Anonymous said...

I mean to say that if Evangelicals are Paulicians, what's different than the previous history of Christendom is the belief that they are characterized by conservative and orthodox doctrine (relative to those historical churches that filtered Paul through Jesus instead of filtering Jesus through Paul).

Anonymous said...

For what it's worth, and I know it ain't much, this is the type of liberty I believe in. I believe that God gave mankind a limited, not absolute, form of free will because He wanted to be loved. His purpose was that His Son would eventually have a worthy Bride!

God could have created automatons but did not choose to create automatons. The reason is because He wanted His Son's Bride to love His Son while still being faithful forever to His Son.

I believe God was all good and no evil, and so when He created the angels, He did not imagine evil. It was impossible at that time for Him to imagine evil. After Satan rebelled, God became able to imagine evil and then made a plan to defeat it.

Because God created Satan, He is smarter than Satan. Now He knows that He needs for humans to pass loyalty tests before He allows them exist as immortal beings within the Kingdom of Heaven (or within a future Eden Restored if that is a different future state).

God said in the Old Testament that he allows false prophets for a reason, as loyalty tests.

God is good at predicting what people will do, but at times in human history, peoples' evils have exceeded what God would have imagined they would do. God is good and so He does not imagine evil readily. He said so Himself, that He did not imagine that human beings would become so violent and wicked, and that this is why He sent the Flood.

I believe that God gave us free will within only His parameters that He understands but we don't. It isn't any kind of absolute free will, because if we don't serve God, we serve Satan, or we are enslaved to our own sinfulness that comes from the lusts of the flesh (as in addictions).

But we still have some capacity to choose between good and evil. Otherwise God would never have been able to call anybody righteous. He called Noah righteous, as well as Abraham. He said David was a man after His own heart.

Anonymous said...

I see a foundation of God having given human beings limited free will, BUT with accountability. This is why humans transgress by going beyond the boundaries that God holds himself to! That's why humans transgress by becoming more controlling than God Himself saw fit to be!

I believe it is an inversion of God's plan to adjust both ends of this plan the opposite of how God Himself designed them. If human beings try to take away accountability, that is wrong. But if human beings try to be controlling of other human beings, that is also wrong.

The whole world is moving in the direction of everything becoming just like self driving cars! At the same time prisoners are being released from prison, and laws are being relaxed. It's an inversion!

In this way I think I can see how to derive at least a rudimentary type of political philosophy from a Biblical foundation in the most basic way, not in the much more fully developed Israelite theocracy way. But the Israelites still had freedom with accountability, too. They had more accountability than everybody else because they were given more knowledge of God and God's will than everybody else, to have more ability to know better.

Other than this very basic and rudimentary insight I don't know what to say about Christian nationalism.

Anonymous said...

9:19 AM

Thomas Jefferson was a Theist.
"Jefferson’s views on an afterlife developed over time, and historians disagree on what he believed in this regard. As a young man, he seemed to have a relatively conventional view of heaven. A firm believer in man’s free will, he thought that good works were the way to salvation and that rewards and punishments for actions on earth were “an important incentive” for people to act ethically."

"Jefferson rejected the notion of the Trinity and Jesus’ divinity. He rejected Biblical miracles, the resurrection, the atonement, and original sin (believing that God could not fault or condemn all humanity for the sins of others, a gross injustice). In neither the eighteenth century nor today would most people consider a person with those views a “Christian.”

"Early in his presidency, Jefferson reexamined his own beliefs and expressed a renewed interest in Christianity. In 1803, he pieced together a short comparison of various religions and philosophies, including Christianity. This document is generally referred to as the “Syllabus.” The next year, Jefferson decided to comb through the Gospels and extract what he believed to be the real teachings of Jesus, devoid of perversions which had been made by church leaders over the centuries. He insisted that Jesus’ true words “are as distinguishable from the matter in which they are imbedded as diamonds in dunghills.” This short compilation is generally referred to as the “Philosophy of Jesus of Nazareth” or the “Extracts.” Finally, in retirement, Jefferson set out to rework the “Philosophy” by taking four copies of the Gospels – in English, French, Latin, and Greek – and literally cutting-out with a razor those parts that he thought to be the legitimate teachings of Jesus, devoid of miracles and the resurrection. This work, entitled by Jefferson “The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth,” is commonly referred to as the “Jefferson Bible.”

Jefferson's "Jesus" was rewritten to his liking instead of the Gospel's pure message of the God Man our Savior actually was and is.

Sorry to say, Jefferson was not a Christian. He made a "god" after his own image in his "Jefferson Bible". The 1st and 2nd commandments meant little to nothing to him apparently.



https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/jeffersons-religious-beliefs/

LSWA said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uOxhYyfYw4

Excess deaths in 2023

Dr. John Campbell

Anonymous said...

LSWA,

It's almost like there must be a brand new 3rd leading cause of death that even kills younger working people sometimes. And, life insurance experiences aren't that telling of anything except a few more people healthy enough to work were and are still being killed by covid. Exactly how many 16-19 y/olds have life insurance anyway?

I know Campbell likes to insinuate such numbers are covid vaccine related, after all he's got an audience to appease & he's been demonstrated to be a liar time and time again, but the fact reamins there is no evidence or proof the continuing seemingly decreasing excess deaths are related to vaccinations at all.

It's also telling when he cherry picks charts like Australia's excess death charts. Excess deaths really don't tell that much of a story beneath the surface because they involve self adjusting denominators. For example, because Australia did such a good job in 2020 and 2021 limiting exposure and death from Covid their 2022 and 2023 EXPECTED excess deaths numbers didn't self adjust like they did elsewhere because excess death denonminators are a function of average deaths in prior years. They had LESS deaths than expected in 2020 I believe and few in 2021... so then it LOOKS like Australia increases occurred faster, bigger and later (and after the vaccines) but that's because Covid itself didn't enter the country in a meaningful way until after the vaccines too.

Anyway. It's just noise for the remaining cognitive dissonant and political-minded maga liars now. Covid is no longer novel but it's still killing and hospitalizing people today. Like the flu, pneumonia, and other viral killers it's here to stay and something we'll all have to deal with and figure out how best to protect ourselves or not.

x







Anonymous said...

2:20 PM

Whatever.

Nobody cares about your globalist approved take on covid or the "vaccines" except now they're really learning to avoid it, and their politics don't even matter anymore. The government throwing multiple millions of doses out ought to give you a clue. I guess you can't take a hint.

So post on,(your massive yawn about it) and feel good about it. Good globalists like you and your heavy-handed ideas about how to control the masses are tiresome but predictable.
And you can post your recipes for bug stew for the masses, too.
I'm currently eating a big slice of ranch raised roast beef and you can feed your family the bugs...

It's good to see Dr. Campbell's continuing research and excellent information shared here.


Anonymous said...

John the Baptist ate locusts and honey in the desert. But I'll pass unless I'm lost or on a 21 day Naked and Afraid show! I saw Survivor Man do pretty well with roasted grasshoppers on one of his episodes. I don't think I could ever eat a raw, wiggling spider the way that Bear has done many times on Man vs. Wild.

As for "bug mystery meat" or lab grown meat, no thank you! I'll skin squirrels first!

Anonymous said...

LSWA,

Here's another article regarding a study that kind of partially explains the implications of life insurance experiences the last couple years.

Consider the fact more men have insurance on their lives at higher values than women.


Men are living shorter than ever versus women. Top reason? #COVID19.

Men are less likely to vaccinate, less likely to mask, less willing/slow to see doctors, and also higher biological risk of severe #COVID.

The last one is biological, but others are maybe toxic masculinity.

“From 2019 to 2021, Covid was the leading contributor to the widening gap in life expectancy between men and women, contributing nearly 40 percent of the difference in years lost.”



An ‘Unsettling’ Drop in Life Expectancy for Men

Go to this tweeter feed & use the subscriber link to the NY Times Article:

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1724429033679540446/photo/1

For NY Times subscribers (or those who know how to use "Shacklefree"):

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/13/health/men-life-expectancy-drops.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-Uw.lKWJ.HO1LQo0YAE49&smid=url-share

x

Anonymous said...

2:54 pm

I don't know...maybe you might rethink your idolizing of Dr. Campbell.



The shocking connection: Is Dr John Campbell a Puppet for Big Pharma's Cancer Vaccine?

https://youtu.be/SF3xg_tf8oA?si=Lfx3E1Fp9vXR9gxI

x

p.s.- Personally I think he's just a common grifter willing to lie and say anything he can to keep his audience engaged.

Anonymous said...


3:51 PM

I have wondered about John the Baptist eating locust with him being so zealous. It kind of makes no sense.

Could it have been the seeds of the Black Locust tree he that he ate? (especially since the Black locust is a major honey plant and the source of the renowned acacia honey)

(see cultivation)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinia_pseudoacacia

Probably not, but I find it fun to ponder ( - :

Anonymous said...

MI5 agrees with x

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12761925/Is-death-blow-major-anti-vax-theory-Landmark-20-year-study-finds-sudden-cardiac-deaths-athletes-fallen-despite-claims-Covid-jabs-fuelled-rise.html

No surprise there

Anonymous said...

Hats off to Constance Cumbey. Once again, she has been proven correct! Video proof of the violent, armed insurrection, just as Constance described:

Newly Released J6 Footage Shows Carnage of the "Insurrection"

https://rumble.com/v3wdtqo-newly-release-j6-footage-shows-carnage-of-the-insurrection.html

Anonymous said...

"toxic masculinity"


x is most definitely toxic, without question.
But his masculinity is most definitely questionable.

Anonymous said...

8:16 pm

Good example of actual "Toxic Masculinity" thinking you can define and assess the masculinity of others, especially if you are female.

If not, post your address and I'll come by on my next road trip and we can discuss my masculinity in person.

Just how big a boy are you?

x

p.s. - It has taken medical science 200 years to advance humans to the point where people are so healthy and living so long that they can deny that science and medicine is what got us here.

Anonymous said...


8:37 PM x
You b!+@h about everything. Quit whining like a lady.
And blowing up like a toad. It's proof you're toxic and have a need to prove your masculinity.



You know you love the attention.

Anonymous said...

More of the mind numbing violence that Constance assured happened. WARNING: VIOLENT CONTENT ... meant for Adult Audiences only. Make sure you have and child leave the room prior to viewing. Surely you don't want them to experience nightmares ...

Here's a Newly Released J6 Video That Shows the Utter Savagery of the Insurrection

https://rumble.com/v3wducv-heres-a-newly-released-j6-video-that-shows-the-utter-savagery-of-the-insurr.html

Anonymous said...

Sherman's March to the Sea, Ruby Ridge, Waco, January 6th, these are just the Tip of the Iceberg, yet as Stephen Decatur said - Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always be in the right, but our country, right or wrong - yet still our Ship of States has been taken by foreign miscreants (& pirates), and so, as Oliver Hazard Perry said - We have met the enemy and they are ours - with God's help . . .

Anonymous said...

X 8:37 PM,

"p.s. - It has taken medical science 200 years to advance humans to the point where people are so healthy and living so long that they can deny that science and medicine is what got us here."

If only it were that simple. I'm not anti-science, because God was inquisitive as to what Adam would name the animals. Adam was the first scientist. God was hands-off, not because He had to be, but because He chose to be. He was genuinely curious about what Adam would call the animals.

But in America, science is extremely expensive. Extremely expensive. More expensive than any place else in the entire world. We're talking big, big money. Billions of dollars worth of money. Billions and billions and billions.

Anonymous said...

10:06 PM,

Hey, lamentations and mourning were an official role of Israelite women. They have a time and a place.

Miriam inaugurated, composed and led the Israelite women in celebratory music, song and dance.

Israelite women, in addition to having an official role of singing, music and dancing, also had an official role of lamentation and mourning at the appropriate times.

For everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven.

It's enough to observe that X is a mocker and a scorner. He mocks and scorns to his own destruction if he never repents. It may feel almost impossible at times not to allow him to provoke you to anger. This is the reason why the Bible advises going no contact, if possible, with such toxic people.

Anonymous said...

Surely He scorns the scornful, But gives grace to the humble.

Anonymous said...

"Two things happen when you wrestle a pig in the mud: You both get dirty and the pig enjoys it." -unknown

Anonymous said...

The religious beliefs of America’s Founding Fathers: Christians or deists?

https://greatamericanhistory.net/blog/the-religious-beliefs-of-americas-founding-fathers-christians-or-deists/

Their beliefs were, in fact, in line with something that is becoming increasingly described as theistic rationalism.

According to scholar Gregg L. Frazer, theistic rationalists “believed in a powerful, rational, and benevolent creator God who established laws by which the universe functioned. Their God was a unitary personal God who was present and active and who intervened in human affairs. Consequently, they believed that prayers were heard and effectual. They believed that the main factor in serving God was living a good and moral life, [and] … morality was central to the value of religion.” Most of the Founding Fathers read, referred to, and/or believed in (to varying degrees), the Bible. Instead of accepting the entire Bible as divinely inspired, however, many believed that “reason” was the ultimate standard for determining which parts of the Bible was legitimate revelation from God.

Theistic rationalism is a belief system, not a religion. As mentioned previously, most of the Founders were associated with and/or attended Christian churches. But the Founders were a product of not only Christianity, but also the political ideologies of the Enlightenment. They read scripture, but they also read the philosophies of John Locke, Voltaire, and Montesquieu. As Frazer says in his book The Religious Beliefs of America’s Founders, theistic rationalism was “a belief system for the educated elite.” Educated elite describes not only founders such as Jefferson, Adams, and Madison, but also many of the Revolutionary Era’s preachers and seminary professors.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the grandmothers who grew up being taught in America's Evangelical Paulinist churches would do the same if it ever came to it?

Women’s Role in the Church - The Perspective of a Seminary Graduate, a Mother, and an Educator

https://www.oca.org/parish-ministry/theology/womens-role-in-the-church-the-perspective-of-a-seminary-graduate-a-mother-a

During the Communist years in Russia, the lay people were responsible for preserving the Church’s presence. It was the women, the “babas”/grandmothers, who kept the faith alive, who secretly taught the children and grandchildren and had them baptized.

Anonymous said...

Don't underestimate the old grannies. They foiled Pharaoh in Egypt when the midwives refused to kill baby boys born to Israelite mothers.

Anonymous said...

I wonder how many American Evangelical Paulinist women would even be able to be martyred if it came to it?

Anonymous said...

I noticed on the web site of an Orthodox church that not only do the women not need to be silent during worship, but neither do the children. There is no Sunday school. Children participate and are free to move around no matter how young they are, although they may be taken outside briefly if desired. People don't sit down and shut up. They stand. They participate. The children participate. "Suffer the children to come unto me" was given as the reason! How wonderful! The priest leads, but all of the people participate by holding candles, reading prayers, reading or singing Psalms, and more. I do believe everybody is silent while the priest reads the homily, but it doesn't take up the whole time!

Anonymous said...

Supreme mocker X can't take being mocked.


Mess with the bull you get the horn.
Will he ever quit his routine here?


I'll say no. The smart ass in the dude can't quit.

Anonymous said...

But, but, but ... Constance said there was no election fraud. This just can't be, can it? Over and over again, addresses had EXACTLY 25 registered voters!

Former Maricopa County Elections Worker: Many Houses Had Exactly 25 Voters Registered, Other Anomalies

The volunteer discovered that many of them — which were generally modest homes in heavily Democratic areas — had exactly 25 people registered to vote at each address.

Shelby Busch, co-founder of We the People AZ Alliance, which has worked uncovering evidence of wrongdoing in the 2020 and 2022 elections, told The Arizona Sun Times, “Unfortunately, these stories are not isolated occurrences. We received similar reports all across the state of Arizona.”

https://arizonasuntimes.com/news/former-maricopa-county-elections-worker-many-houses-had-exactly-25-voters-registered-other-anomalies/ralexander/2023/11/17/

Anonymous said...

6:47 am

Science, for profit, is super expensive and risky. Billions made and billions lost.

Socialized medicine lowers both the cost and the risks but without the incentive of gross outlandish profits the science suffers.

On the other hand, supply and demand doesn't work so well when you'll spend your last dollar to save your own life and free market consolidation (essentially monopolies outside of urband centers where a few choice yet remain) only permits you to "shop" at one vendor.

Then don't get me started on the health insurance racket. I question if "health insurance" is even biblical.

How to separate care from science? I don't know the answer. I have stated several times here I support single payor healthcare, despite its many shortcomings. It's not ideal but it's better than what we have right now and it's much better than where healthcare (now in association & partnership with health insurance) is taking us in the future.

Your opinion may vary.

Godspeed --- x





Anonymous said...

11:16 am

When was I mocked? Which post. I enjoy it when Rayb gets witty.

x

Anonymous said...

https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2023/11/17/report-govt-breakdown-enabled-chinese-run-bio-lab-california/


x's "too big to fail" global style governing is off the charts to destroy people's lives by taking common problems and "fixing" them until they are completely broken, completely failed.

x is socialist globalist ("Saul Alinskied") with a "christian" spin on it.

He must make $$ as a "fact checker" for Zuckerberg or SoroZ.

Yes indeed, 8:24 AM. The pig in the post just above said how much he enjoys the mud, and just before that advocated how good socialist medicine is.

Anonymous said...

Craig

Here is something you can exercise your biblical scholarship in:

Be instructed! Prepare Yourself! In the service of food at the proper time

theopenscroll.blogspot.com/2023/11/be-informed-prepare-yourself-in-service.html

Anonymous said...

X 12:04 PM,

Science is expensive everywhere, but it's many times more expensive in America than it is anywhere else in the world. I can't think of any other reason why that would be, other than the fact that America is the epicenter of Big Pharma.

Every kind of bribery, AKA lobbying, is corrupting. Look at the history of studies of the connection between smoking and cancer, for just one example.

Rush Limbaugh said that Washington DC is Hollywood for ugly people. You know what kind of people inhabit Hollywood. (Not virgins.)

Anonymous said...

Corrupt capitalism joined with corrupt government, that runs this country now, think they own science.
Sorry, but God does.

Corrupt globalist socialism and corrupt mega medicine and mega science, married to each other, think they own it too.
Again, not theirs. But used by them to take global control, and they are getting there very quickly now (as the Lord has already told us).
Marxist idiots and the mal-informed that want that scenario, like comrade x, will get their day in the sun (coming soon so watch!)and apparently don't think God will retake His science, His world, but He will.
It is all humanism, but will run it's course so what is the difference? At this late date, none. Corrupt is corrupt and nobody does it better than fools that trade the freedom God gave for the slavery of the world under humanism. Santa Klaus is winning, and his people (like x) would have it so.

But those who believe the Bible know humanism, and it's anti-Christ, will die a very horrible death when the Lord returns.
Why is x even here spouting his humanism? Because he trolls for the NA/NWO. He is a christian fake doing his pied piper bit to help the weak to get on board the global bus.


The one kind of corruption has led to the latest and greatest version of corruption that x believes in and whats to fight over.
He is a humanist straight up. He voted for it, he believes in it, he is an apologist day and night for it.
He should have been careful what he asked for.........
Buh bye, x and company.

Anonymous said...

Reflection on the Readings at Mass David L. Gray. READINGS: Proverbs 31:10-13, 19-20, 30-31, 1 Thessalonians 5:1-6, 13, Matthew 25:14-30.

https://www.saintdominicsmedia.com/33rd-sunday-of-ordinary-time-year-a/

Excerpt. . .We know that Mary, the Mother of God, gave some advice to her Son in the story of the wedding at Cana in John’s Gospel. However, we never hear Jesus repeat something his mother taught Him as a child or an adult, as in saying, ‘My mother said this . . .’

Anonymous said...

The Satanic Cult of The Confederacy w/John Collorafi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNWLOUuCPSQ

Collorafi isn't saying the whole Confederacy was Satanic, but the Knights of the Golden Circle, and even there not that the members of the KGC worshipped Satan but some of the KGC initiation rites were kabbalistic and therefore the KGC was Satanic. Collorafi also notes the KGC were anticatholic.

Anonymous said...

Is God's law a blessing or a curse?

Psalm 119:45
King James Version

45 And I will walk at liberty: for I seek thy precepts [commands, principles].

James 1:25
King James Version

25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

James 2:12
King James Version

12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Revelation 12:17
King James Version

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman [true Israel/true church], and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


Romans (Paul's letter to) 6:14
King James Version

14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

1 Corinthians (Paul's letter to) 9:20
King James Version

20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;


Galatians (Paul's letter to) 3:23
King James Version

23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

Galatians 4:21
King James Version

21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?

Galatians 3:10
King James Version

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Anonymous said...

Where did the doctrine come from that the angels, not God, gave the Law to Moses?

Galatians (letter from Paul to) 3:19
King James Version

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.


"Both Simon and Saturninus [the Gnostics] state that the Old Testament prophecies were inspired by angels. Simon specifically says that they gave the Old Testament law, while Saturninus adds that some of the prophecies came from Satan."

Grant, R. M. (1959). and early Christianity. New York: Columbia University Press. page 16

Anonymous said...

Oops, I accidentally deleted part of the citation above. It should have read:

Grant, R. M. (1959). Gnosticism and early Christianity. New York: Columbia University Press. page 16

Anonymous said...

“A woman’s voice is prohibited because it is sexually provocative.” (Talmud, Berachot 24a)

1 Corinthians 14:34
King James Version

34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law [which law? written where?].

Romans 6:14
King James Version

14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Acts 23:6
King James Version

6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.


Mark 8:15
King James Version

15 And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.

Was Saint Paul Related to Herod? 7 Reasons Paul was Herodian

https://taylormarshall.com/2015/08/was-saint-paul-related-to-herod-7-reasons-paul-was-herodian.html

Anonymous said...

Mark 5:25-34
King James Version

25 And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years,

26 And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,

27 When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment.

28 For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole.

29 And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague.

30 And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes?

31 And his disciples said unto him, Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me?

32 And he looked round about to see her that had done this thing.

33 But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth.

34 And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.

Anonymous said...

Leviticus 15:19-30
King James Version

19 And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even.

20 And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean.

21 And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.

22 And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.

23 And if it be on her bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even.

24 And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean.

25 And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she shall be unclean.

26 Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation.

27 And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.

28 But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean.

29 And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.

30 And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the Lord for the issue of her uncleanness.

Anonymous said...

Philippians 3:4-5
King James Version

4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:

5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;


Genesis 49:27
King James Version

27 Benjamin shall ravin as a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil.


Matthew 7:15
King James Version

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Anonymous said...

Did Paul lie to the Sanhedrin about the reason for his trial?

Acts 21:29
King James Version

29 (For they had seen before with him in the city Trophimus an Ephesian, whom they supposed that Paul had brought into the temple.)

Acts 23:6
King James Version

6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.

Anonymous said...

Matthew 23:9-11
King James Version

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.


1 Corinthians 4:15
King James Version

15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

Anonymous said...

Philippians 3:6
King James Version

6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.


Galatians 1:15-16
King James Version

15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood [the eleven apostles--why not?]:

Anonymous said...

1 Corinthians 11:14
King James Version

14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?


Numbers 6:5
King James Version

5 All the days of the vow of his separation there shall no razor come upon his head: until the days be fulfilled, in the which he separateth himself unto the Lord, he shall be holy, and shall let the locks of the hair of his head grow.


Judges 13:5
King James Version

5 For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and no razor shall come on his head: for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines.

Anonymous said...

2 Corinthians 11:17
King James Version

17 That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.

Anonymous said...

It could be lost to history what ancient heathens did with menstrual blood during various worship ceremonies in their temples. The below is kind of disgusting but could perhaps be suggestive as to what types of things could have potentially been imagined and incorporated by ancient heathens.

Cultural aspects and mythologies surrounding menstruation and abnormal uterine bleeding

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1521693416301250

In Norse mythology, the god Thor reached the magic land of enlightenment and eternal life by bathing in a river filled with the menstrual blood of " Giantesses " or Primal Matriarchs, the "Powerful Ones."

Anonymous said...

Did Jesus have long hair?

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-long-hair.html

Anonymous said...

From Homilies and Recognitions of Clement:

“Our Lord and Prophet, who has sent us, declared to us that the Evil One, having disputed with Him for forty days, but failing to prevail against Him, promised that he would send apostles from among his subjects to deceive them. Therefore, above all, remember to shun any apostle, teacher or prophet who does not accurately compare his teachings with James."

Anonymous said...

1 Corinthians 7:7-8
King James Version

7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.


Secret sex in the celibate system

https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/examining-crisis/secret-sex-celibate-system

Anonymous said...

Cheney, Kinzinger, And "Sham" J6 Committee Under Fire After Friday Footage Dump; GOP Senator Calls For Investigation

Ever since Friday's release of more than 40,000 hours of Jan. 6 Capitol Police security video, dozens of clips debunking the Jan. 6 committee's 'violent insurrection' narrative have been floating around X.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cheney-kinzinger-and-sham-j6-committee-under-fire-after-friday-footage-dump-gop-senator

Anonymous said...

Mary waited 40 days to become ceremonially clean after giving birth to Jesus.

Jerusalem waited 40 years after the crucifixion before the temple was destroyed, and no more sacrifices for any type of atonement, including ritual uncleanness, could any longer be performed.

Jesus likened the tribulation to Israel's labor pains.

Anonymous said...

Do believers receive the Holy Spirit following baptism? Or do they receive the gift of the Holy Spirit? Is it an automatic gift, following immersion in water? Read the

Luke 11:5-13
King James Version (The Parable of the Persistent Friend)

5 And he said unto them, Which of you shall have a friend, and shall go unto him at midnight, and say unto him, Friend, lend me three loaves;

6 For a friend of mine in his journey is come to me, and I have nothing to set before him?

7 And he from within shall answer and say, Trouble me not: the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed; I cannot rise and give thee.

8 I say unto you, Though he will not rise and give him, because he is his friend, yet because of his importunity he will rise and give him as many as he needeth.

9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?

12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?

13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?



Acts 19:1-6
King James Version

19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

Anonymous said...

I'M AT A LOSS TO EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW SERIOUS THIS SITUATION IS

youtube.com/watch?v=ONWCUiOS520

Anonymous said...

Jeremiah 23:34-36
King James Version

34 And as for the prophet, and the priest, and the people, that shall say, The burden of the Lord, I will even punish that man and his house.

35 Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbour, and every one to his brother, What hath the Lord answered? and, What hath the Lord spoken?

36 And the burden of the Lord shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the Lord of hosts our God.


1 John 5:3
King James Version

3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

1 John 5:3
Young's Literal Translation

3 for this is the love of God, that His commands we may keep, and His commands are not burdensome;


1 John 2:4
King James Version

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.


Galatians 5:1-3
King James Version

5 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.

3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.


Galatians 6:2
King James Version

2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

Matthew 5:17-20
King James Version

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

(The Pharisees thought they had unconditional election because of being Abraham's seed. They had partially Calvinist ideas before Calvin did.)

Anonymous said...

I have to wonder if the concept of Catholic penance came from Paul, too. Jesus fulfilled the Law of God the Father as given to Moses. Some nunneries have existed for the purpose of suffering, being starved, and being tortured to get more dead people out of purgatory. Not all nunneries, but some.

Galatians 6:2
King James Version

2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

Anonymous said...

Matthew 6:5-6
King James Version

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.


1 Timothy 2:8
King James Version

8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

Anonymous said...

Romans 14:9
King James Version

9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.


Luke 20:38
King James Version

38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.

Anonymous said...

Romans 13:9
King James Version

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


https://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/713737/jewish/Love-Thy-Neighbor.htm
Love Thy Neighbor
Hillel [Pharisee during time of King Herod] taught: what is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor; this is the whole Torah and the rest is just commentary. Join us for a wonderful analysis of this mitzvah.


Matthew 22:37-40
King James Version

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Anonymous said...

Romans 9:15-18
King James Version

15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.


Matthew 5:7
King James Version

7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Anonymous said...

Romans 5:9
King James Version

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.


Matthew 12:37
King James Version

37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Anonymous said...

Luke 6:26
King James Version

26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.


1 Corinthians 10:33
King James Version

33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

Anonymous said...

1 Corinthians 15:31
King James Version

31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.


John 11:26
King James Version

26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Anonymous said...

Romans 2:12
King James Version

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;


John 12:48
King James Version

48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Anonymous said...

Romans 7:9-10
King James Version

9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.


Matthew 19:17
King James Version

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Anonymous said...

Romans 10:4
King James Version

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.


Matthew 5:17-18
King James Version

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Anonymous said...

1 Corinthians 12:28
King James Version

28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.


Matthew 23:8
King James Version

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

Anonymous said...

Ephesians 4:11
King James Version

11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors [shepherds] and teachers;


John 10:16
King James Version

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Anonymous said...

Romans 3:9-10
King James Version

9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:


Matthew 12:35
King James Version

35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

Anonymous said...

Ephesians 5:2
King James Version

2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.


Matthew 9:13
King James Version

13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Anonymous said...

1 Timothy 5:17-18
King James Version

17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

18 For the scripture saith, thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.


Matthew 10:7-8
King James Version

7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Anonymous said...

Anyone who thinks that the January 6th insurrection was non-violent is in serious delusion. A woman was shot and killed. Doesn't her life matter? And what about the many guilty pleas to violence that day? And most of them were made by plea bargaining. Thousands of dollars in damages to the Capitol building is all due to deliberate acts of violence.

Anonymous said...

Y'all can stop with the scriptures. how about sticking to the subject for a change.

Anonymous said...

Someone is suffering from an intense delusion and fixation, no doubt inspired by Satan himself, regarding the Apostle Paul.

It is utterly amazing how weird some 'religious' people can get.

Anonymous said...

4:02

Russian disinformation & disruption campaigns often strive to create conflict among Americans towards each other using the pros and cons of any argument or debate they can contrive to achieve such. Ungodly authoritarians & unChristian orthodox as they are, attacking Paul is likely seen as a way to achieve such within largely Protestant western culture.

I’m not biting.

X



Anonymous said...

9:17 AM
Leviticus 15:19-30
King James Version

You do realize Leviticus gets it name from the tribe of Levi? I believe you must read it through the len of Leviticus concerns priests.
+++
1:59 PM
I'M AT A LOSS TO EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW SERIOUS THIS SITUATION IS

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Anonymous said...

Saint Ursula: a Virgin most wise

Eleven thousand virgins - St Ursula
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w5FZw-UVOI

Here's the scoffing modern Pagan (a/k/a secular) take. . .

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/Saint-Ursula-the-11000-British-Virgins/

Bless their little hearts ^

PS: if you want this kind of holy life, live as a peasant

Anonymous said...

Another Little People video

san pedro mummy
https://youtu.be/MQmbL_v-THM?si=Pg6_1jZ9H3FEK6TS

Anonymous said...

4:00 PM,

"Y'all can stop with the scriptures. how about sticking to the subject for a change."

Oh, right. Donald Trump.

See, I thought it might be relevant to draw attention to the first significant antichrist in Christian history, namely Saul the false apostle.

Right now the blog author is watching for Donald Trump to be a possible antichrist, even if he isn't the main event.

See, even then, it's still relevant, since I showed how Bonhoeffer opposed Hitler, while most of the Lutheran church were anti-Semitic and were quoting the false apostle Saul to support absolute obedience to the Nazi government. This is relevant because Bonhoeffer was an unusual Lutheran who refused to marginalize Jesus to make room for Saul/Paul.

The blog author is worried that Donald Trump will follow Hitler's playbook.

I pointed out that American Evangelicals are more Pauline because of Dispensationalism's extremely strong influence in America.

I pointed out that Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and other American founding fathers were theistic rationalists who rejected both Calvinism and the Pauline epistles.

Take my comments or leave them, but it ain't your blog.

Get off your high horse before it starts talking back to you like Balaam's ass.

Anonymous said...

4:02 PM,

"Someone is suffering from an intense delusion and fixation, no doubt inspired by Satan himself, regarding the Apostle Paul.

It is utterly amazing how weird some 'religious' people can get."

Somebody is completely ignoring the frequent contradictions of Jesus by the false apostle Saul.

I feel frightened for American Christians if they are trained into blind faith to this extent and are transfering their blind faith habits onto the political realm.

God revealed Himself in Israelite history. He never expected blind faith. Jesus had witnesses. The twelve were His witnesses and messengers. He had many more witnesses besides, including the three women who saw him crucified and saw him resurrected. He told the Samaritan woman at the well that her people did not know what they worshiped, but salvation is from the Jews. Because one comment followed the other, it's clear what Jesus was getting at.

We have been terribly mis-taught to believe that our salvation hinges on blind beliefs. If this becomes a habit of mind it will not lead anywhere good once it gets transfered to whoever else can come along and harness it. Donald Trump understood this well. You'd be in trouble if Trump hadn't caught COVID to hasten his cognitive decline into senility. That could have been the hand of blessing on people like you to be spared from supporting a monster into worse monstrosities. You won't be need to be held to account for voting for an American Hitler antichrist type because, maybe, just maybe, you were spared by mercy upon you. Just maybe. But there's still time and still a chance. You're probably going to be lucky that you won't need to be tested in that way that you'd fail and so would millions of your fellow believers including many I know and love dearly in spite of their gullibility.

I will pray that it doesn't happen for the sake of the whole world and for the sake of weak and gullible Christians not facing a terrible test they won't be able to pass!!!

Anonymous said...

http://voiceofjesus.org/pb2chapter2.html#The%20Sources

"I wrestled with the faith/works contradiction for the next twenty years with growing anxiety. It was as though Jesus and James were pulling me one way while Paul and the church were pulling the other and I was near tearing in the middle. Finally, I did tear. My breakdown came in the fall of 1967. It was both the most terrible and the most wonderful experience of my life. It was terrible because for many months I was in the shadow of hell. It was wonderful because from it and through it the Lord rescued me and I was at last set free of the church, free truly to follow Jesus, free to realize the true will of God, and free to begin to see Paul's true character."

I relate! I went through a similar crisis tailored to my own life. I lay in bed sick with nausea and memories of Scriptures racing through my brain. I threw up several times, looked at my vomit, and I thought to myself that I will never be the dog in Proverbs who returns to his vomit.

I stood with herbs to settle my stomach later in the day and thought to myself that I know my standing in the kingdom of God. I'm the weak servant, the one of whom the master will ask His stronger servants not to judge, the one who will stand with herbs but can't eat food yet, although I had thought I was full of knowledge of the Bible and theology.

Much later in the day, after standing with herbs, I felt clear eyed and light of being, as if a heavy yoke had been lifted from around my neck. It was wonderful to clearly understand God's will for the very first time ever without confusion clouding it.

I realized I'd had a toxic relationship with a false god, one who sent me mixed signals and put me into double binds, like a toxic boss. That's not the true God! He doesn't do that, and feels wonderful to know it.

I want everybody to know this is available to them!

Anonymous said...

I see absolutely no conflict between Paul and James in the Bible.
None.
That you do is telling on you.

James, by way of the Spirit, was very concise in his writing about truth and grace both.
And Paul, by way of the Spirit, wrote and expounded much more to explain and shed light upon the many nuances and situations he encountered to reveal truth and grace also.
Same God, same message, same justification in Jesus, and same sanctification revealed by the Spirit.
Two very different men in how they wrote on the same topics and both agree completely. The Bible is a supernatural Book (of books) with no doctrinal conflicts in itself at all, cover to cover.

I don't get why you're so hung up on this. And you can stay hung up if you want. That's your business but seem to want to make it the blog's business.
You have explained and explained-enough.
The reams you wrote only showed me you're caught in your own conundrum.

And I bypassed most of it because it is slanted.
And not one iota convincing either, by the way..



Craig said...



Why the relative silence?

Israeli women were raped by Hamas terrorists. Why do women's organizations remain silent?

כאן | דיגיטל - תאגיד השידור הישראלי

Israeli women were raped by Hamas terrorists. Why do women's organizations remain silent?


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