My prayers are with all those adversely affected by these actions. I'm also sharing with you an old Barry McGuire youtube video song -- Eve of Destruction, It seems very pertinent today.
I fear that this could well be the start of World War III. Putin has threatened swift retaliation against any foreign power interfering with his invasion. There are those inside Russia who were also horrified and bravely demonstrating against it. I've been watching Al Jazeera's Youtube channel which has had fairly extensive coverage of the events. Rich of Medford recommended it as a somewhat better source of relatively unbiased coverage. There was reporting there that anti-war protestors in Russia had been arrested.
Often I have suspected we might be in the time of the Biblical seals of Revelation opening. The 4th seal was the Rider on the Pale Horse. Disease, fightings killings were shown there as taking many lives on Earth. The pandemic has remained upon us with still many, many serious illnesses and deaths since early 2020. New variants of that disease continue to appear. Recently, it was announced there was a serious new and highly contagious variant plaguing Denmark. All the other forms and variants quickly spread. This one will probably do so likewise here and abroad.
Such a sobering time and so many things happening. We need to remember what time it is and to put our trust in the Lord.
Stay in prayer and stay tuned!
Constance
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J,
I did not explain any of that. I have not speculated on that nor shared that here.
That is why I said Jesus (HE) has told us all things beforehand, so we are waiting for it to be revealed on God's timetable, according to what He has already said in His canon of Scripture, and with His light upon it at that time, we will understand what we do not now.
I don't know how you can say I have already arrived at something described and prescribed as "dispensationalism".
The things I see happening in real time, are to me, looking more and more like Scripture making the timely connections that it will, is still pretty fluid, pieces still missing, but taking more definable shape in it's forming as time advances it, so all of this will come out of the fog. I think soon, not later.
"If the Rothschilds played a role in the regathering, God can work through the heathens, too."
He used Nebadchadnezer didn't He? He spoke through a donkey to Balaam. God is not limited in the least. (It's us who tries to do that). Evil is a mere tool in His hand, He triumphs over that and that is without question. What the devil intends for harm (and is allowed to carry out with some limitations as God sees fit--notice His limits on the devil concerning Job-God allowed it and then used it in Job's mind and heart to see the Lord's mercy in it all in spite of all it's extremity) so God know exactly how to use anything for good. Exactly what Joseph explained to his brothers when he was second in command to Pharoah when they stood there guilty for their part in how Joseph got to Egypt in the first place, yet look at what God did in what befell Joseph. The dreams of Joseph came true..not the way any of them (including Joseph) would have ever suspected beforehand. God used great difficulty to bring great good. Now that is sovereignty with a capital "S". I love that about the Lord!!! And gives me hope quite frankly.
continued:
"John the Baptist told people that God could raise up sons of Abraham from the rocks if He wanted to. He urged them to repent...
..The Apostle Paul said that a true Jew is one with a circumcised heart. The promises were made to Abraham's seed, who was Jesus Christ; not to Abraham's seeds, all genetic offspring."
And why I said this: He knows who is physical and spiritual Israel both.
And He has a redemption (that is a capital "R" redemption) to carry out with individual hearts regardless of their DNA, reagrdless of the era they live in, that was supplied by faith to those before the Cross happened, and then still, by faith to those thereafter. It took faith to look forward through time to the cross, the portion you mentioned about eve's seed after her, Is 53 was plainly speaking, many other passages. The Jews lost sight of that as a collective--but Simeon and Anna as individuals saw it, Mary, Joseph, spoke prophetically of the cross that child would endure, these are examples), so we look back in time and by faith we see the cross to the saving of our souls when we believe..(this includes repentance because that is art of believing and trusting for that very forgiveness every single soul needs).
God has sovereignly done all of this, His time, His way--and He isn't done yet.
We will see more and more how He puts His finishing touches on what is in front of the world right now. It is prophetic. That much I am sure of.
God is not limited in the least, He can't be. He can not lie either. So there we have it.
J, I do have a question.
If I am going by dispensationalism then which I am supposed to be in?
Because I don't know. I've heard of it, but not studied it.
I go by reading my Bible and praying to understand it, I love it's history and history period.
All I see is history, not categories for it, if you will..
11:44 AM,
I think all of us can be influenced by beliefs we may not label that way. Dispensationalism has been the main influence in North American teachings about prophecy in the latter half of the 20th century and into the 21st century. I didn't realize I believed in Dispensationalism's teachings, because I took them for granted.
I wasn't even aware there was any other way of looking at it until I was exposed to southern Baptists who taught me that the Bible interprets the Bible and exposed me to some startling (to me) Bible teachings about the church being the Israel of God. Not all southern Baptists are non-dispensationalist. They believe in the priesthood of all believers, so they can be very diverse.
What Is Dispensationalism?
https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/dispensationalism
"Although dispensationalism is best known for its eschatological doctrines, at its heart is the distinction between Israel and the church. Every other distinctively dispensationalist doctrine rests on this idea."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWlUs5E7NpA
J, 11:44 AM here.
I found this and it is so beautiful and pretty much sums up how I see and feel of all this we are discussing.
Jesus is the sum total of all of God's dealings with His creation--God's Yes and Amen.
Enjoy this 4 minutes of music--God and man at table are sat down.
It will bless you...anyone who takes time to listen.
In the midst of all of this pro-Ukraine frenzy, two very important facts have been overlooked and ignored by the media...
1) In 2014, the United States helped overthrow Ukraine’s democratically elected leader in an illegal coup, and then it helped to install a fascist government and empowered a far right military all with the goal of destabilizing Russia.
2) Volodymyr Zelensky is 'a former actor and comedian'... who has only been president of Ukraine since May, 2019.
My heart and prayers go out to the PEOPLE of the Ukraine... who didn't sign up for war and are going through absolute HELL right now.
But... I truly believe that ALL of this is by 'design' by the Globalists... with the ultimate goal and agenda being THE GREAT RESET (for the entire world).
Putin and Zelensky are merely 'players' on the world stage (like a chess game).
Bottom line: The Globalists 'never let a good crisis go to waste'... since 'crisis equals opportunity'... to 'divide and conquer... with the Globalists WINNING (no matter which side 'loses').
May God help us all...
What I've read here from J is an effort to twist scripture to fit a specific theological view. It is an attack on those who apply a literal interpretation to scripture then argue not everyone was intended to understand scripture. Do you take your salvation literally J?
https://www.gotquestions.org/dispensationalism.html
"Not only does Dispensationalism undermine the sovereignty of God. It undermines the redemptive work of Jesus Christ. It makes of Him a king without a kingdom. Therefore it makes Him no king."
This blanket statement is absolutely not true. Maybe in your twisted theological view.
Hebrews 11
How the war will usher in a global financial reset...
We are now being told that in order to stop Vladimir Putin’s aggression against Ukraine, all cryptocurrency must be swept under the control of central governments.
Because decentralized cryptocurrency is a threat to the global central banking cartel, the globalists appear to have launched another false flag operation to create a reason for seizing control of the crypto-sphere.
At best, they are capitalizing on another foreign war to push the goals and agendas of the World Economic Forum (WEF), which wants all cash to go away and for everyone to be forced into a new digital paradigm.
Neil Parmenter, president and CEO of the Canadian Bankers Association, says the new system being ushered in as you are reading this will do away with all paper and coin money, credit cards and identification cards.
“Under the Great Reset, your entire financial portfolio will be controlled by the central bank and your assets relegated to a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) that can be turned off in a split second by the tyrannical regime you dare to criticize,” warns Matt Agorist from Activist Post.
Federal Reserve governor calls for a cashless society!!!
More...
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-03-02-plandemic-war-phase-ushers-global-financial-reset.html#
The Jews are special. God selected them because they were the least of people, and stiff-necked/stubborn.
If Gods grace is enough to save the Jews, then it can save anyone.
Tah Dah (drumb roll please)... introducing DELTACRON ~ a brand new 'variant' (oh dear, are we running out of names for variants?)... all as 'covid cases decline across the world' (but, we have to get you people vaxxed up the wazoo!!!) LOL
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Two cases of Deltacron (combination of Delta and Omicron) are found in US: WHO sounds alarm on new variant as it spreads in Europe but Covid cases decline across the world
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10598687/WHO-sounds-alarm-DELTACRON-variant-spreading-Europe-major-concern.html
Hi J, 11:44 AM, again.
Thanks for the reply. That may be your experience, but mine, though raised Baptist, in fact Southern Baptist, it was when I was very young. I doubt I picked up eschatology then, ha ha!
Out of church for many years afterwards, let's just say, sowing some wild oats for a while, and attend a non-denominational church for 25+ years now.
My studies are basically my own. I look at history in the light of the Bible--I love history anyway, and love to explore DNA sites since I got tested (absolutely fascinating and knowing some history helps that along), and still learning of course, but I am not really familiar with what you were speaking of in your reply to me, or for that matter, what formed your views, what you called Partial something, I have to go back and look at what you said.
I have found at church that not many really speak about prophecy. I do believe in the rapture of the church but disagree with some I attend church with as I am not pre-trib, which is pretty common belief, but I don't argue with anybody about it. It is mentioned here and there, but with no real depth. I read the Bible completely through every year and have for years. Some commentary, Matthew Henry, not much besides. I have a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, a go-to, and a Halley's handbook .
I have read some commentary at times regarding the Talmud and some from the book of Josephus, you can find those online, but they are both a little much for me, and they are certainly not Scripture, just some background, but interesting. So mainly my Bible, NKJV, or ESV.
Pfizer’s own documents prove THEY KNEW their covid vaccines were not “safe and effective” and they knew mRNA nanoparticles circulated throughout the body
As the documents are released to the public at the rate of 55,000 pages per month, researchers are documenting the truth about the covid-19 vaccines. For one, these injections use RNA replication technology to exploit the innate immune system, to mass produce a variant of the spike protein bioweapon. This has led to widespread immune depletion and enhanced disease, causing higher caseloads, hospitalizations and deaths. Furthermore, Pfizer’s own documents prove THEY KNEW their covid vaccines were not “safe and effective.” Pfizer also knew the mRNA nano-particles circulated throughout the body, causing damage to organs. The FDA granted emergency use authorization (EUA) anyway, lying to the public about the “safety” and “efficacy” of the vaccine.
There are only two explanations for the FDA’s behavior in this historic matter of medical malpractice: criminal negligence or criminal conspiracy. Either the FDA negligently disregarded the data in these documents, or they actively participated in a criminal conspiracy to commit fraud and cause harm to the population. Why would the FDA blindly trust a company (Pfizer) that previously promoted pharmaceutical products illegally, leading to the largest health care fraud settlement in the history of the Justice Department? With the Pfizer documents being made public, both Pfizer and the FDA should be charged. They should be charged for not only promoting pharmaceutical products illegally, but also for using deception and coercion to force harmful products on the population.
More...
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-03-10-pfizers-own-documents-prove-they-knew-covid-vaccines-not-safe-mrna-nanoparticles.html
3:01 PM,
I'll grant you that Romans 11 can be hard to completely understand. I still don't feel confident I 100% understand everything it means.
A Chronological Synopsis of the Major Events of the "End of the World"
endtimesforcaster.blogspot.com/2022/03/a-chronological-synopsis-of-major.html
"22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again."
Precisely J.
As I was typing that post these exact verses from Romans 11 came directly to my mind.
That is came to yours too, seems to say to me that we are both taken with how profound it really is, while we can't say we understand it.
I wouldn't want a God I could figure out anyway.
Relatively small, but well written work entitled:
An Examination of Dispensationalism, with Why I Left
Scofieldism (1963) by William E. Cox
http://www.orcuttchristian.org/William%20E%20Cox%20An%20Examination%20of%20Dispensationalism%20with%20Why%20I%20Left%20Scofieldism%201963.pdf
NOTE: Not long after my conversion, I crossed paths with a graduate of a Dispensationalist Bible college, who had told me that "after 4 years of schooling," he had come to the conclusion that what he had been taught "could not be supported by Scripture," and that "most churches today teach this false system." At that time, I had never even heard of the term Dispensationalism, even though I was attending a VERY Dispensationalist church that was deeply connected to the Dallas Theological Seminary and the Moody Bible Institute, both of which are very Dispensationalist.
My conversation with this young man prompted me to do some research. The small book above by William Cox was one of the first that I read on the subject. IMO, if you are interested in the subject, this is a good place to start.
J's statement @ 11:57 AM sums it up quite well ...
"Although dispensationalism is best known for its eschatological doctrines, at its heart is the distinction between Israel and the church. Every other distinctively dispensationalist doctrine rests on this idea."
NOTE: Dispensationalism proclaims, in a variety of ways, that PHYSICAL Israel is elevated above the actual, true church of Christ. Many of the verses that apply specifically to God's children (who are those in Christ) are falsely attributed to physical Israel, which sets one upon a consistent path of misinterpretation.
Since the beginning, the church Fathers identified the true "Israel" as the believers in Jesus Christ. Being born a Jew does not provide any special privilege, or status, for the individual. In order to be one of God's children, you must be redeemed by Christ.
America continues its slide into the abyss, and those connected to the Biden Administration are doing their best to lead the way!
Chasten Buttigieg teaching kids at Gay Camp… ("husband" of Pete)
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/chasten-buttigieg-teaching-kids-at-gay-camp/
RayB, J, and X have sooooo much in common.
Actually, you have so much in common with X, because you are an accuser and a slanderer.
"NOTE: Dispensationalism proclaims, in a variety of ways, that PHYSICAL Israel is elevated above the actual, true church of Christ."
I have not heard that one before. That is a new one to me.
God is no respecter of persons. It is level at the foot of the cross as I have said before.
There is a distinction in some promises made to them by God that involves that land God gave them, but there is no distinction that places them spiritually above any one else.
The Jews have a place in history and it will come to a finish. The 144,000 Jewish Evangelists have something to do with how that chapter in history closes with the Jews on a wholesale level, a full scale appeal to them by that 144,000, when they have opportunity to know Christ and though many will continue to reject (just as the vast majority of the world will do), even still a remnant will not.
The Lord knows those that are His. Before the Lord's throne, Jew or Gentile makes no difference at all.
9:16 AM
True.
Truth is not slander.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18228/turkey-cyprus-agression
Erdogan has some grand plans himself.
The U.S. government under Biden threw it's weight behind stopping the EastMed gas pipeline (of Israel, Greece and Cyprus) to Europe from Israel's vast reserves (would have cut Europe's dependence on Russia by leaps and bounds) in order not to anger Erdogan, who wants his own energy dictatorship to further his Islamic Fundamentalist goals, like they have being attempting to do to the Kurds of Northern Iraq who are sitting on incredibly large energy reserves themselves.
Getting more tangled by the minute..
Shouldn't 'Biden' be considered a profanity?
Lets clean it up folks!
Maybe substitute with Thing, or Critter?
An extensive list of WEF Young Global Leaders.
https://goldengalaxies.net/Quasar/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/The-WEFs-The-Young-Global-Leaders-Extensive-List-by-Categories.pdf
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/matthew-dowd-on-war-room/
WOW.
10:28 AM,
You stated no truth but only an accusation and a slander without providing its basis.
Look up diablos in Strong's Concordance.
Anon @ 9:55 AM ...
A couple of things to consider (I'll try to be brief):
Without getting too deep into this, there is some controversy regarding what exactly the "144,000" represents. Your view represents the Dispensationalist view, which is, in relative terms, a modern one. Historically, the orthodox position has been that the 144K represents a SYMBOLIC number of SPIRITUAL ISRAEL, meaning, all, from every nation on earth, that are true believers in Jesus Christ, in effect, His true church. The Bible at times uses large numbers in order to illustrate something that can't be numbered. For example; the one and only time a 'number' is used to describe the 'millennium' duration is in Revelation chapter 20, where the number "1,000" is used. I often ask Pre-Millennialists this question: "If the number is LITERAL, how do you explain this verse?
"For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills." - Psalm 50:10 Is God's OWNERSHIP limited to ONLY the "cattle upon a thousand hills?"
Of course not! He OWNS EVERYTHING, yet the Bible is using a number SYMBOLICALLY.
Regarding my comment: "NOTE: Dispensationalism proclaims, in a variety of ways, that PHYSICAL Israel is elevated above the actual, true church of Christ."
You stated: "I have not heard that one before. That is a new one to me."
I'm sure you have heard this verse quoted any number of times by modern writers/preachers/pastors as they apply it to "Israel," and, in reference to all Jews: "And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed." - Genesis 12:3
Having known a large number of Dispensationalists over the years, I can't begin to tell you how many times I have heard this verse (or part of it) quoted to me over the years. I've also heard it in sermons and in the written word, with the warning too for America, such as; 'when America turns its back on Israel, that will be the end of America." The misapplication of this verse can go from the sublime to the ridiculous, and quite often does.
Example; after a series of deadly bombing raids against Lebanon conducted by Israel in which RESIDENTIAL complexes were targeted (thousands died), Dispensationalist Jerry Falwell, Sr. appeared on one of the network news broadcasts and was asked for his comments regarding these attacks "against civilians." Falwell responded that the Bible admonishes him, as a Christian, to support Israel "no matter what" and then quoted the Genesis 12:3 verse ! He then proclaimed that he remains "faithful" to that verse.
But wait a minute! Doesn't this verse actually proclaim what Falwell said?
(more to come)
Because the Globalists CONTROL the mainstream news media (and we only hear what they WANT us to hear), how do we know that the following is not true???
Kremlin complains that the U.S. is ignoring Ukraine's genocide on their own people!!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10603031/Kremlin-whines-building-military-Eastern-Europe.html
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Here is what we DO know...
1) How the Bidens helped neo-nazis rise to power in Ukraine 8 years ago.
(Joe and his son, Hunter Biden were in business with Ihor Kolomoisky. Follow the money!!!)
https://truth11.com/2022/03/06/the-bidens-helped-neo-nazis-rise-to-power-in-ukraine/
2) Putin orders military to destroy bio labs in Ukraine (as U.S. scrubs evidence of their existence).
https://truth11.com/2022/02/26/putin-orders-military-to-destroy-bio-labs-in-ukraine-as-us-scrubs-evidence-of-their-existence/
Anon @ 9:55 AM ...
You stated (in part):
"God is no respecter of persons."
NOTE: this partial verse is often quoted our of context by those that hold to an Arminian viewpoint, which is a denial of God's Sovereignty.
Here is how the "respecter of persons" is actually used in Acts 10: 33b - 35:
"Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him."
NOTE: Those that do not 'fear him," who do not "worketh righteousness" are NOT "accepted by him." In a very real sense, Peter is declaring that, salvation is no longer available EXCLUSIVELY to the Jews (i.e., "persons"), but is now available to "every nation," making Him "no respecter" of the Jews ONLY.
Arminians like to use this out of context phrase in order to remove God as being the One that overcomes the power of Satan, by showing His power via Election. Read the ENTIRE chapter of Romans 9, which deals with this subject.
J @ 7:25 PM ...
Just a thought ...
When reading Romans 11, keep in mind that "Israel" is the "remnant" of true believers, both from the Old Testament days and the New Testament.
The "all Israel shall be saved" applies to, IMO, ALL BELIEVERS throughout the ages, again, including those prior to Christ's advent. His Covenant with the remnant of believers in the Old Testament remains unbroken and is not negated by the "new Covenant" found only through Christ.
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RayB
I fully agree with you concerning sociopolitical issues. But after reading your criticisms of dispensationalism Iv decided, for the most part, to remain in the dispensationalist camp.
Just because 1000 is literal in one place doesn't mean it cant be figurative in another.
Also I don't care what Falwell Sr. said, or thought.
God's Word contains no error, I am sure you agree. One of the hallmarks and defining things of true believers and believe you to be one.
That being said as I understand it:
The 144,000 in the book of Revelation are Jews 12,000 from each tribe.
They are sealed.
They are a witness to their fellow Jews, to the world.
Why would God want that witness at that time and in that place?
And who are the 2 witnesses to come? I personally believe they are Moses and Elijah, some say Moses and Enoch, so whomever but I do know what I read and these are actual persons in Jerusalem (back there for an express purpose at the scene of the "crime" so to speak against God--Israel blinded for a time will have every reason to believe God but most will not--just the same in God's grace he takes them to task to finish the whole issue with them).
God has left much hanging and He will revisit the issues and people involved and resolve it to His satisfaction. This is real time stuff, not symbolic.
I simply disagree but it is not because I have systematically categorized people and events into dispensations. These are my express views. I am reading my Bible in a straightforward manner with past and current history in mind. It is very interesting about Jewish DNA too, the things they are learning about the how, the where and when, and who of the diaspora--this comes into play believe it or not and too big to encapsulate here. You can if inclined, to look at that yourself. But secular Israel is to be considered differently than Israel in a spiritual sense and view.
Label it what you will because it doesn't matter either. There are errors in your views just as, no doubt, some in mine because awaiting revelation. We will all get an education that the Lord will fix someday. We will all see what we got wrong. And God has the final say I am sure you agree. But surely you don't think you have this all understood yet. I know I don't. Meantime I study and pray and watch as Jesus said to. There is plenty to see.
Revelation is full of a lot of literal things and people to take note of.
You can't symbolize everything pertaining to the Jews. The Bible is clear and that has nothing to do with anyone's idea of a dispensation--it is God's timetable, not what men affix to it..
The Bible says in the Psalms pray for the peace of Jerusalem. I do. That is how I bless them. Looking for God to give His grace as He sees fit, and when and to whom among them. I think this includes literal Jews that God seeks for His fold just as He sought you and me. If He does that differently than I expect what is that to me? It's not my plan, it's His.
My expectations are on Him. Not someone's anybody's theology take.
12:50 PM RayB
Where are you going?
Inform all you want about your view, that I will read and listen to, and take or leave, at my discretion.
You can't and shouldn't pigeon hole me to what you think that you think that I think.
This is you going too far.
Sorry.
1:17 PM again.
I too, don't care what Falwell thought about eschatology.
Just like I I don't agree with his Moral Majority take to sway politics back when he was alive.
God changes people, not "christian" politics from either the right or the left versions of it.
God works in the hearts and lives of the peoples of the earth according to His Word and this includes how He will work with the Jews to show them in a fashion of His choosing, the Savior they have missed for 2000 years.
God's ways are higher than ours.
I just trust that...not parse it to fit my version of what He said and what He does with it.
I have spoken very open handed and open minded about all this. Wait and see is still how I approach this and how I conclude whatever I write about it.
I think that is wise.
1:16 PM
12,000 are Judah. The rest are from the other tribes.
12,000 from each of the 12 tribes it mentions in Rev 7.
4 And I heard the number of the sealed, 144,000, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:
5 12,000 from the tribe of Judah were sealed,
12,000 from the tribe of Reuben,
12,000 from the tribe of Gad,
6 12,000 from the tribe of Asher,
12,000 from the tribe of Naphtali,
12,000 from the tribe of Manasseh,
7 12,000 from the tribe of Simeon,
12,000 from the tribe of Levi,
12,000 from the tribe of Issachar,
8 12,000 from the tribe of Zebulun,
12,000 from the tribe of Joseph,
12,000 from the tribe of Benjamin were sealed.
2:04 PM Anonymous
One of the twelve tribes of Israel was omitted by God. The Tribe of Dan was replaced with the tribe of Manasses, the second born son of Joseph.
RayB 1:08 PM,
I agree that the Bible very frequently uses numbers symbolically. Seven is the number of completion. Six is the number of man and beast, because both were created on the sixth day. Eight is the number of resurrection. Jesus' name numerically was 888.
The number 666 is associated with King Solomon, who was a foreshadowing and a type of both Christ and Antichrist. It became associated with him at the peak of his kingship. From there it was all downhill. He broke the three rules of a godly king. He multiplied gold, multiplied horses and multiplied wives.
The symbolism is the number 6, the number of man, trying to be more than itself and expanding out to 666.
I'm not saying the number 666 in Revelation has no correspondence to anything else. I'm just saying that, if you allow the Bible to interpret the Bible, and you look at the previous reference to 666 in the Old Testament, you find its association with King Solomon multiplying gold (receiving 666 talents of gold).
As he multiplied wives, his pagan wives influenced him to engage with occult beliefs and practices.
I think if we miss the Biblical numerology and other types of symbols, we reduce the Bible's richness of meaning.
Revelation is very rich in symbols and numerology and even astrology. Biblical astrology was not frowned upon among the Hebrews during the time of the Apostles. In fact when Jesus was born, Scorpio was positioned in the sky, from the view on Earth, to bite the child coming out of Virgo. The Bible says God placed the stars in the heavens to be signs to us. (Not that we should have anything to do with the perversion of this by the Babylonian system of horoscopes.)
Yes 4:55 PM. And that is a very interesting topic.
Why omitted? Because they were the first tribe that went apostate from the Lord and suffered greatly for that decision.
Ezekiel 48:1-2, 32 teaches that during the millennial kingdom, which follows the Sheep and Goat judgment, Dan will be given their allotted portion of land in the Promised Land. Notice that Ezekiel 48 describes the land assignments for the different tribes. Dan is the first tribe. God gives the tribe of Dan first place in the land assignment.
From banished to restored.
Sounds like a salvation story to me!
God's mercy endures forever.
J at 5:09 PM
Great post. I agree.
Since God's Spirit wrote the Bible (through those different men in different eras) then the numbers are very meaningful too as I have said before.
In that short read I told you about a few days ago there is this ancient Hebrew teaching from the Talmud:
“The world is to stand six thousand years, viz., two thousand confusion and void, two
thousand with the law, and two thousand the time of Messiah.
When a number is expanded multiplied like that it is to be especially noted just like Jesus when He repeated something--that means listen up.
6 expanded as you mentioned--fascinating indeed..
1000 yrs as a day a day as a 1000 years.
Very deep meaning.
Before the world became fallen, before the devil was kicked out of heaven, the stars of the universe used to sing. Now there is static from the prince of the power of the air. The zodiac told the story of the Gospel before but since the devil hijacked that message and scrambled it, it doesn't tell that story now as the zodiac is pagan. The astronomers of Daniel's time in Babylon heard the story of the Star that would rise (from Numbers in Balaam's prophecy when the Lord forced him to bless Israel instead of curse it) so hundreds of years later when they saw something very unusual in the sky (the King Star) and looked again at what Daniel had said and handed down to them, and as they were men who studied the stars these wise men in that subject made their way to Bethlehem and followed the star that led them to the Savior. No doubt they heard some wonderful things and found it to be true
and knew what gifts to bring to Jesus.
Thanks for sharing what you wrote.
https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/americas-corrupt-election-system?s=r
May the truth come out for all to see.
5:33 PM,
The topic of the Magi, Daniel and Biblical astrology is a fascinating one. Daniel was chief of the Magi, which was a Medo-Persian priesthood. The three wise men who visited the infant Jesus are sometimes said to have been Zoroastrian, but I think it's more likely they were remnants of the same Medo-Persian priesthood that Daniel had belonged to.
In Daniel 4:9, Nebuchadnezzar called Daniel Belteshazzar, chief of the magicians, but recognized he was filled with the Holy Spirit of God and that he knew some of the secrets of God.
2:04 PM,
The number 144,000 is likely to be symbolic. It's the number the twelve tribes of Israel squared, then multiplied by 1,000. Multiplying it by 1,000 signifies many, as RayB has elaborated. But more than that, every Hebrew would have been aware that a thousand was the military division in the camp of Israel. The number 144,000 in context is a symbol of the military roll call of the Lord's hosts comprised of ideal Israel as she was meant to be.
The ancient Hebrews like the Apostle John knew nothing of any problem with not being literal. They were very familiar with their lexicon of symbols and numerology that the Old Testament is replete with.
A little known fact is that each of the twelve tribes was associated with a constellation in the zodiac. The zodiac in the Bible wasn't occult. It was just the path of the sun across the constellations, from the vantage point of earth during times and places on earth.
The faces of the cherubim in both Ezekiel and Revelation correspond to the middle signs in the four quarters of the zodiac. It's not strange at all if you believe God created the stars and set them there to be signs, as it says in the Bible.
Likewise the sun is used in the Bible sometimes for a symbol of Christ even though sun worship is pagan idolatry and is of course condemned.
Just when the sun was midway through Virgo, in her belly, Scorpio was clawing at her in the sky, from the vantage point of a Hebrew looking up at the sky, and this happened during the timeframe when Jesus was born. Virgo in the sky looked "clothed with the sun" and crowned with the twelve stars that signified the twelve tribes of Israel.
Numbers 2 tells us that the arrangement of the twelve tribes of Israel around the tabernacle corresponded to the zodiac. Just like the cherubim, four of the tribes represented the middle sign of each quarter.
The Apostle John and his original audience were familiar with all of these symbols, these symbols carried rich associations for them, and understanding the symbols is an aid to understanding their use in Revelation.
Without some comprehension of this it's a chaos of symbols and might as well be as confusing as watching The Wall by Pink Floyd. It doesn't have to be that way, nor do we need to interpret the symbols on our own. These symbols were already given meanings in the Bible, but we have to see where and how they have been used before in the Old Testament.
Fun fact: The ‘Three Wise Men’ are called magoi, the plural form of magos. To see how the term is otherwise used in the NT, see “By Your Pharmakeia Were All the Nations Misled”, Part II, beginning at the paragraph, “The first synonym is the verb…”, which references ‘Simon Magus’ and Elymas Bar-Jesus. See accompanying footnotes 12 and 13.
The term magos is only found twice in the LXX, aka the Greek ‘OT’. These are in reference to Nebuchadnezzar’s ‘magicians’ in Daniel 2:2 and 2:10.
^and footnote 14.
A Mirror Image
cindybythesea.com/2022/01/19/119-911-a-mirror-image/
It is fascinating that out of hundreds and hundreds of magi of that pagan culture long time ago, there was a small entourage who took seriously enough what Daniel spoke of, to connect the dots and travel about 500-600 miles camelback to Jerusalem, went straight to the king (Herod) to find out about the King of the star they followed. And when they got there they made inquiry, which no doubt disturbed Herod at the thought of a rival, but he consulted the scribes for information from Scripture so everyone could easily know this episode was a "God thing".
It says a lot about how obsolete and off track the scribes were then that they didn't saddle up their donkeys and travel that 5-6 miles to Bethlehem from Jerusalem to know what (whom) they had come such a long distance to see.
Typical of religion. It so often misses the mark to recognize who it's supposed to be about, sitting behind books with head knowledge, but no heart to actually worship and follow themselves.
Jesus came and basically did away with religion, breaking it's traditions, norms and forms....with Him present it truly was obsolete.
While they poured over and "worshipped" the word, the Word Himself, Who is to be worshipped, made His entrance.
There is a huge takeaway in what this pictures for us today.
While they poured over and "worshipped" the word, the Word Himself, Who is to be worshipped, made His entrance.
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I love that way of putting it!
"It doesn't have to be that way, nor do we need to interpret the symbols on our own. These symbols were already given meanings in the Bible, but we have to see where and how they have been used before in the Old Testament."
Yes, the symbolic, and the literal too, (which calls for wisdom to know which is which and may prove in some instances to be richly both in the Biblical realm) in the Word of God should be given an earnest look to "see" and to see, what God has done in the past, is doing in the present, and will do in the future, based completely upon what He has already spoken for us in the Bible.
I truly believe that time will tell us if we are paying attention, and obviously the magi were as an example, because that knowledge that was passed down to them, hundreds of years before, led them.
God will continue to shed His light upon what is before us so we have light to follow in the darkness of today. And it is getting very dark out there now, but God has promised wisdom for those that ask Him, James 1:5, but we should ask in faith. That is when we "see", when we will see.
God said: though it tarry, wait for it..
9:20 AM at Craig,
Thanks for the post. Very interesting.
Craig 9:20 AM,
It's interesting that aspects of Mystery Babylon, like pharmakeia, that undermined Jerusalem from within, now undermine so many things in our culture, even science and medicine.
Satan never really seems to change his play book tremendously. Why should he, when the same old things keep on working, from Eve, to the original Babylon, to Mystery Babylon in Jerusalem, to the New Age movement.
X the Fortune Teller's Prophecy the First:
"Behold, says X, King of Cuckolds, Ruler of Brown Lips, the days will come when
the Great Meshuga arrives. He shall arrives after the sign of the 9 Great Buckets of Bullshit appears in the Western sky"
X the Fortune Teller's Prophecy the Third:
"And the Negro, now with an even bigger bucket in his other hand, cried out 'Who gonna stop the Meshuga?!"
Just so weird.
What's the point?
Figures that 2:26 PM is post #666 on this thread.
He just can't allow a biblical conversation to continue without interruption.
x
"Just so weird"
"Whats the point?
That's a good description of 95% of your postings X
Russia's bioweapon conspiracy theory finds support in the U.S.
Despite rebuttals from independent scientists, Ukrainian leaders and officials at the White House and Pentagon, the online popularity of the claims suggests some Americans are willing to trust Kremlin propaganda over the U.S. media and government.
(Although, the Globalist-controlled 'lamestream news media' is still spinnng this to suit THEIR narrative.)
https://www.aol.com/news/russias-bioweapon-conspiracy-theory-finds-050542532-140816019.html
The false flag is obviously the idea that any Russian bio weapon attack is an American/Ukraine bio weapon false flag.
The labs in Ukraine are only level 3 labs established to contain, store and protect bio weapons left behind after the Soviet Union fell and were set up at or around the same time Ukraine was being actively demilitarized and denuclearized to lesson the proliferation of such weapons in the world.
In many ways this was an effort to keep the new Ukrainian nation from selling off dangerous weapons to whomever was willing to provide the former corrupt governments cash.
Remember, Fox News is owned by an immigrant and is more mainstream infotainment than all the other big media companies. They’ll say anything to scare you and russia spends a lot propping up their ratings.
https://sharylattkisson.com/2022/03/list-of-ukraine-biolab-documents-reportedly-removed-by-us-embassy/
Uh, maybe that's just in your mind, 7:32PM
The information of the Bioweapons is archived and can be seen.
Not level 3 labs as you suppose. Heavy duty stuff (that Russia no doubt already has themselves).
Senator Rubio swallowed real hard when Biden's Undersecretary Nuland disclosed the fear they have of what is "stored" there that they say they don't want to fall into Russian hands.
Sure took them a long time since she was there in Ukraine back in 2015 supposedly overseeing those to do the disposal of this stuff since that was what Nuland referred to.
The U.S. Embassy in Ukraine has been deleting the paper trail of what was there but didn't jump on that quick enough so those archives show you are not right about this.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/i-guarantee-we-are-going-to-end-fossil-fuels/
Check out the U.S. Bureau of Labor chart posted here that shows inflation under Biden after Jan 2021 when he came in, like a baboon given a set of wrenches and turned loose in a glass shop..
Is that your prez 7:32 PM?????
The one who hasn't told the truth in his entire 50 year career as a politician?
So be careful who you believe. Mainstream media all across the board is playing us right along with our government.
That is almost no one these days.
Thanks 4 the warning Sergei but I don’t need discernment lessons from a Russian troll.
If u happen to be American, that would be even more pathetic that you would carry water for Sergei and his disinformation comrades. Why don’t you go live in Russia and report back directly all the truth and Godliness you find in that God forsaken authoritative lying corrupt regime run by child milestones like Putin.
Putin & little boys.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3411766/amp/Litvinenko-claimed-Putin-caught-film-having-sex-boys.html
X
I became curious about a recent controversy her as to the use of the terms "end of age" versus "end of world" in KJV and NKJV Bibles. This stood out today.
Read it until the end. It says "upon whom the ends of the ages have come" in the NKJV. It says "upon whom the ends of the world are come" in KJV. In either case, the context and audience are clear.
1 Corinthians 10
New King James Version
Old Testament Examples
10 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.
6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. 7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.” 8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; 9 nor let us [a]tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; 10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. 11 Now [b]all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our [c]admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.
Why Donald Trump Didn't Want US Translator When Talking To Vladimir Putin
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=arndUVUGKUs
God has certainly sent Trumpsters a strong delusion.
America is in Peril because of Trump the Traitor and his sicophants such as grandly deluded Craig, MCE and RayB.
Antichrist Trump will probably be elected in 2024, sadly.
9:27
Trump won’t run. As soon as he declares he can’t put the donated monies into his personal pocket anymore. He’s gonna play out the “almost running” grift as long as possible
He will never win again. Besides several die-hards and those with long covid or post covid smaller brains, more than enough conservatives are done with him. America is done with him.
The repercussions of his presidency are still being felt.
X
Here's what won't happen..you won't stop licking the toes of elites, as you have all along.
So plan on taking the mark too, then.
That is part of worshipping your government gods.
It's late and I am tired LOL--here's what will happen "you won't stop licking the toes of elites" man with a plan, x LOL
Still trying to twist scripture to accommodate your theology J? Disgusting. The greek word preceding the word world gives the passages different context.
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/24-3.htm
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-11.htm
Don’t forget to include J in with those grandly deluded.
Grandly deluded in a Biblical sense means disagreeing with you?
The grand delusions consisted of, among other things, following false messiahs who were supposed to lead the first century AD Jews to defeat of the Romans. They were deluded to think God was on their side. The first time Jerusalem was surrounded by armies, the armies mysteriously retreated. The Christians knew this was the sign to leave Jerusalem. The unconverted took it as a sign that God was on their side to help them defeat the Romans.
The main grand delusion was rejection of Jesus Christ as the true Messiah.
The creeds of the early church never taught any Dispensationalism. They taught a Second Coming, a Resurrection and a Judgment Day. That creed is consistent with my beliefs.
The early church after the destruction of Jerusalem didn't pray for the whole field of tares and wheat all over the whole world to be destroyed before the fullness of time had brought in more wheat harvests.
That would have been like Noah praying for another flood.
You've lost the plot.
There you go again taking scripture out of context. Jesus didn’t jump time frames. Twisted.
It is YOU who has lost the plot and your mind.
Actually, the time stamps in Revelation are very clear.
The only thing that's actually vague is the millennium. That's why there have been so many different theologies about the millennium throughout the ages of Christianity.
You can’t even get the timeframe of Matthew 24 right much less Revelation.
Daniel was told to seal his prophecy. John was not told to seal it. He only sealed the seven thunders. He repeatedly used words like "soon" and "shortly."
The time stamps are actually the easiest part. What's much harder is to look up all the Old Testament references in Revelation. That's why if you study the works of somebody who has actually done so, it can be so wonderful to aid in comprehension. But you need to be willing to risk not confirming your preconceived notions. You need to be open to the Holy Spirit's preconceived notions.
RayB,
Picking back up the thread of the discussion about Israel and what the Apostle Paul wrote about Israel in Romans...
Before Christians believed in Dispensationalism, many believed in Restorationism. I have barely begun to study Restorationism.
So far I think it goes like this. As Jesus rules His kingdom in heaven and over time heals the nations, He may choose to heal national Israel just as He heals all nations throughout history, until the end of history.
It would be consistent with the branches that had been broken off the olive tree being grafted back on later.
Of course any descendant of Jews being converted would be a grafting back onto the olive tree as well.
I think we are in agreement that there is only one olive tree in view when Paul uses this symbol in Romans, not two olive trees.
In other words, your interpretation is inspired while all others you disagree with are not. Since you cannot even get Matthew 24 right I’ll dismiss that remark.
It's not my interpretation. It was not my preconceived notion. It was shocking to me at first. It was sweet and sour just like the angel said it would be for John.
But I chose to honor the Bible interpreting the Bible rather than Dispensationalism interpreting the Bible.
Part of the comprehension involves getting over not only Dispensationalism but a far more ancient false teaching called Marcionism. Marcionism contrasted gentle Jesus with the mean Old Testament God. I believed the same without fully realizing it. I had to become fully in awe of the true Jesus who, as Paul says in Romans, has both very great mercy and very great severity.
I had to learn to comprehend that Israel was not "the apple of His eye" in the sense of always being favored and to comprehend that God used heathen nations to judge Israel on numerous occasions.
It's impossible to comprehend without comprehending both Old Testament and New Testament. I had lacked that holistic comprehension of both, without realizing it.
It definitely involved digestion and heartburn to "eat" the book, just as the angel said to John that it would. Digestion took quite a long time.
FACT SHEET: President Biden to Sign Executive Order on Ensuring Responsible Development of Digital Assets
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/03/09/fact-sheet-president-biden-to-sign-executive-order-on-ensuring-responsible-innovation-in-digital-assets/
Executive Order on Ensuring Responsible Development of Digital Assets
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/03/09/executive-order-on-ensuring-responsible-development-of-digital-assets/
Biden's Executive Order Initiates Central Bank Digital Currency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra4yNwGzF38
P.S. I disliked the Old Testament God I was taught to believe in, in my childhood. I was four years old hearing about the Philistines' foreskins being cut off after they were dead. I wasn't coloring Noah's Ark or reading stories about The Lamb.
When I came back to the faith I liked only Jesus and only the New Testament. Maybe that made it different for me. I dunno. It seems there may be a lot of neo-Marcionism in our world.
But we are lucky that the punishments that were promised under the Old Covenant were not promised to us, who live under the New Covenant.
That's the part you don't comprehend. You don't comprehend the Jews 2000 years ago already received their punishment, and it was after being exposed to Jesus working miracles and after being given 40 years to repent. Many were converted after Pentecost.
Do you think there will be a second Pentecost for just national Israel?
Do you think the world that was never in the Old Covenant is in the for the same punishments that were promised to the breakers of the Old Covenant if they continued breaking it and being unrepentant?
The world will be judged on Judgment Day.
You twist the scriptures in order to bend it to your interpretations then slam those who apply literal meanings. Not convinced. I’m done with you. Keep following the doctrines of men.
Clearly New Age Luciferian X is posting his fake supporter.
X has to play with himself, because no one else wants to.
DR. KLAUS SCHWAB OR: HOW THE CFR TAUGHT ME TO STOP WORRYING AND LOVE THE BOMB
https:www.blacklistednews.com/article/82119/dr-klaus-schwab-or-how-the-cfr-taught-me-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the.html
10:57 AM,
Actually I'm applying literal meanings to the time stamps.
Sure. Sure.
Matthew 24:34
See also:
Matthew 12:39, Luke 11:50-51, Luke 21:32, Acts 2:40.
Jesus is speaking of a future time in the preceding verses. You just jumped time frames again and are to dense to recognize it. I’m done with your foolishness.
Everything I cited refered to "this generation" and it's a phrase I'm taking plainly and literally.
You keep repeating the phrase "jump time frames" as if it is definitive and conclusive. Yet you never define it or say how you reach this conclusion.
Your argument is absurd given the linguistics and context of the ENTIRE passage. This generation is a reference to the generation of a future time of which Jesus speaks. It is pointless to argue with you any longer. You've doubled down on foolish.
It honors Jesus to recognize what He accomplished in history as a personal God who was incarnated on earth. Fulfilled prophecy is one difference between Christianity and other religions such as Islam.
I'm prepared to talk to a Muslim who is interested in the Bible but doubts it's true because of perceiving Jesus as a false prophet, since what He said would happen in that generation did not happen.
He said the harvest is plentiful but the laborers few.
What would your reply be? Would you be able to labor in the harvest of the Muslim's who are the wheat?
J @ 10:19 AM ...
Just a few thoughts ...
Regarding "Restorationism," I don't recall ever reading or hearing about this doctrine. From the little that I gathered from your post, IMO, it seems to have its roots, perhaps, in Postmillennialism, which as you know, teaches (falsely) that the world will continue to be "Christianized" to the point where the millennium is ushered in via the collective righteousness of the world.
As far as Israel, or any other nation for that matter, being "healed," I can only guess what is meant by that. Does it mean that through this 'healing,' the nation is somehow "restored?" Restored to what? And what is required by the people in order to obtain this "healing?" In reality, has there ever really been a truly "Godly" nation? For example, Israel rejected God's plan (among many other things) for government (the Judges), by insisting upon a government modeled after the pagan nations, which had kings ruling over them. For the most part, Israel was ruled by ungodly kings. After being set free from bondage in Egypt, they faithlessly wondered in the wilderness for 40 years, rejecting God's servant Moses. Israel had a long history of not only rejecting the prophets that were sent to them, but, quite often killing them. Although Christ performed many miracles and was perceived to be a 'prophet' by many, during his entire ministry on earth, the religious leaders sought to kill him, even though he was completely innocent of any 'crime.' Their history is one of constant rebellion, paganism and apostasy, etc. Most of the blessings that Israel received in the past was obtained because of the faithful "small" remnant.
"Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah." - Isaiah 1:9
Having said that, God "heals" nations when the remnant turns to God: "If MY PEOPLE, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14
One more thought; nations are not ruled by the 'people,' they are ruled by the hierarchy, which tends to be in a constant state of rebellion against the King of Kings. Would this "restoration" include the removal of ungodly rulers?
As always, I'd be interested to read what you have to say on this subject.
Bill Barr compares working with Trump to ‘wrestling an alligator’... but says ‘a lot of the American people right now' would PREFER the former president in the White House to Joe Biden!!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10608443/Bill-Barr-compares-working-Trump-cronies-wrestling-alligator.html
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LOL!!! Yes, we WOULD prefer an 'alligator'... to Joe Biden (a man with growing dementia who doesn't care if we end up in World War III and America and the world get blown to smithereens... just as long as he & his son, Hunter + Barack Obama & Hillary Clinton don't have their SECRETS EXPOSED... since these secrets must be kept at ALL COSTS!!!
Though we don't agree on a few points J, I am glad for the conversations we have here. I am not the one arguing with you currently (that is another anon) I am the one who spoke with you at @ 11:22 - 11:44 AM (and a few posts thereafter about numbers and the magi etc)
I just want to say that I appreciate that you are trying to work things through Scripture just as I am, and though I feel differently about this that God is not finished with Israel the nation (those people and that land) I appreciated this that you brought up:
"It would be consistent with the branches that had been broken off the olive tree being grafted back on later." The Jews as the natural branches cut off, allowed the wild branches (Gentiles -us- though I have found Jewish DNA in my own testing) to be grafted in and the Lord is able to graft the natural back in again as Romans 9-11 speak about. This is key, I believe, what Apostle Paul wrote under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
I have never heard of the term restorationism either but it is that verse (along with others Old and New Testament both Ezekiel is full of future days of restoration for Israel and other prophets too) that speaks of God's dealings with the Jewish people in the latter days before 1000 year kingdom begins and beyond that into the time of Jesus' rule with His rod of iron over the nations.
What I am glad of is your keeping the main thing the main thing---because that is the main thing...the Gospel...and our hopes for others in sharing it, and more than ever.
X the Fortune Teller's Prophecy the Fourth:
"And again X looked, and beheld 13 Great Buckets of Bullshit. And out of one of them came a demon who growled at him saying, "I shall show you the future of elections in America".
X the Fortune Teller's Prophecy the Fifth:
Another demon came to X and it asked him, "Why is Hell so full of Republicans and Christians?"
Then X replied, "They are deficient in intellect and hung like raisins."
And the third demon came to X, this time at nightfall whilst he slept, and asked X,
"Hast thou hear of the two Gay Negro barristers? Both hath tried each other!"
"Why is Hell so full of Republicans and Christians?"
For X hath replied, "They are deficient in intellect and hung like raisins."
And the chorus of ghouls played on at X's bedside....
"A scorching fire and a painful doom awaits those who believe in Trump and liberties."
King X the Cuckold, Lord of Brown-Nosers
‘wrestling an alligator’
That is because he is not a politician to begin with.
He is raw, untame-able, and at times over the top by his ego..but he is a man who has cared about us-regular America and got lots of good things done after all, in spite of rather severe swampy opposition.
He kind of reminded me of Samson in the Bible. A rough sort, a mixed bag, but on a mission--for the most part a good one. Long way from perfect, but people we read of in the Bible weren't either.
So to me, he is preferable to the rats.
The D.C. rat's nest of politicians are sneaky and manipulative and a good number of them are deeply corrupt and self-serving. Not our friends..not representing us, but themselves. Many get ruined there that started out well, with good intentions, but something changes them.
Smooth talkers, smooth criminals many of them, in their empty suits. They make me ashamed of them.
But Trump is gone.
And America, as I knew her, is gone.
America did not turn back to God-her many idols replaced the Lord and His grace to this nation with no intention of going back to what made her great (like Israel of old). And by no means could Trump have fixed that, no politician can. Only God can---but I don't think He will. Maybe, hopefully, I'm wrong but I don't think so.
NWO Globalism is here. Our purposefully tanked economy is going the way of the Titanic, and going the way of all men.
Thank You God there has been an America, and I have been able to live free like much of the world never could. I am not bitter in the loss. My real home is with the Lord Jesus. I pray that for many others
God, You give and take away.....blessed be the name of the Lord.
3:41 PM,
What I am glad of is your keeping the main thing the main thing---because that is the main thing...the Gospel...and our hopes for others in sharing it, and more than ever.
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I agree. I was just thinking yesterday that the Bible says the same things over and over and over again from first to last, all about the redemptive work of Jesus Christ on the cross. Getting too far from the theme of redemption is tangential. Staying with the theme, even if one gets details wrong, they can't get the basics wrong.
The Bible is beautifully consistent with symbols, types and foreshadows from first to last. Adam is a type of Christ. Eve coming out of his side is a foreshadowing of the church being created out of the blood and water that poured out of Jesus' side on the cross. Adam and Eve were covered with animal skins when they left the garden, but Revelation pictures the saints being handed white garments to put on. It's symbolic of covering sin, just as nakedness is symbolic of being a sinner.
Then Cain killed Abel, but Seth was born, and the woman's seed (Christ) came from the line of Seth. Seth represented the fist remnant. The flood destroyed the wicked, but a remnant was left in the form of Noah and his family and their offspring.
The themes get introduced very early. From the beginning of the book we are introduced to all the types and foreshadows and told that the woman's seed (Jesus) would crush the head of the serpent (Satan). We're introduced very early to the types and foreshadows of remnants. We learn that the offspring of a woman (Jesus) will eventually defeat the serpent and the (spiritual) seed of the serpent.
The Holy Spirit was very consistent in inspiring the types and foreshadows of the main theme, showing the truth of the words that the lamb was slain from the foundations of the earth.
Revelation doesn't say anything different than the rest of the Bible says. As long as we understand that, we can't go too far astray. The basics are clear enough. It's about redemption as it always is.
P.S. I believe that the Garden of Eden and the Promised Land are symbols that point to heaven.
Additionally, I think it's interesting that the ark of the covenant was called an ark as in Noah's Ark, the heathen nations were symbolized as the sea, Israel was symbolized as the land surrounded by the sea, and the abyss was symbolized by the sea. The Israelites crossed through the parted waters of the Red Sea during their Exodus.
Again, I believe the Bible is saying the same things over and over and over again.
In the book of Revelation we have floods, many waters, the abyss. What should we take these symbols to mean? Or should they only be taken literally? Or both literally and symbolically at the same time, as the Red Sea crossing was both?
RayB 2:49 PM,
I believe healing the nations means bringing the gospel to them. You made a lot of good points, though.
Returning to the original topic of Dispensationalism, I learned a little bit more about it last night. I realized I had cause and effect reversed somewhat. Dispensationalism played a role in the creation of the modern nation state of Israel. I hadn't realized that. I had thought it to have arisen after Israel became a modern nation state. It's true that it became popular after the establishment of modern Israel. But it's not true that was only a reaction to the establishment of modern Israel. Maybe you knew that, but I didn't.
To the poster who said repeatedly that I "jump time frames." I was truly confused by your statement, but I think I tracked down its source to Hal Lindsey.
Hal Lindsey taught that the super sign that Jesus' second coming would be near had to be the regathering in Israel. He claimed as a Charismatic believer that he had Holy Spirit led revelation on this matter so that he interpreted the first leaves on the fig tree as the regathering of Jews in the modern nation state of Israel.
Many evangelicals believed that Jesus would return in 1988, because a generation in the Bible lasts forty years, and Israel was founded as a modern nation state in 1948.
It seems to come down to Hal Lindsey's interpretation of the references to the fig tree in the New Testament.
The references to "this generation" were taken by Hal Lindsey to mean the generation that saw the regathering in Israel.
Is this what you meant by "jump time frames?" Were you aware this is the recent history of what is regarded as the exegetical basis for the "time stamps?"
Question for X:
How does HE know 'what hell is full of'???
LESSONS LEARNED FROM ADAM & EVE
From Genesis 3:2-5
3 Now the serpent was more subtle than any of the beasts of the earth which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman: Why hath God commanded you, that you should not eat of every tree of paradise?
2 And the woman answered him, saying: Of the fruit of the trees that are in paradise we do eat:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of paradise, God hath commanded us that we should not eat; and that we should not touch it, lest perhaps we die.
4 And the serpent said to the woman: No, you shall not die the death.
5 For God doth know that in what day soever you shall eat thereof, your eyes shall be opened: and you shall be as Gods, knowing good and evil.
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From Genesis... to the 20th & 21st Century, AD.
New Agers actually BELIEVE: "I am god; you are god"...
The word 'Namaste' (a Hindu word) is used by New Agers as a greeting... which literally means: 'bow me you' or 'I bow to you'... the 'DIVINE' in you'...
(The Sanskrit phrase namaste is formed from namaḥ meaning 'bow, obeisance, adoration' and the enclitic pronoun 'te' meaning “to you'... the noun 'namaḥ' is a derivative of the verb 'namati' - which means he/she 'bends, bows')
The problem with this greeting of the word 'Namaste' is that...
WE HUMANS ARE NOT 'DIVINE'... ONLY GOD, OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN IS DIVINE... AND WE WORSHIP AND ADORE GOD, OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN ALONE!!!
There is a REASON why the very First Commandment is... "I am the Lord thy God; thou shalt not have strange gods before Me."
The actual SOURCE of New Age teachings/beliefs is Satan (the 'serpent')...
To those who are either unbelievers, or who have turned away from God, please wake up and turn to the ONE and ONLY true GOD, Our Father in Heaven and obey His Commandments... or put yourselves in danger of losing paradise (spending eternity in Heaven)!!!
"long covid or post covid smaller brains,"
You out yourself once again, as a very sour and small human being, very full of pride, very full of yourself.
How we can all know this about you is because you provide the proof:
Your own heart is very shrunken with pettiness, smallness, and meanness, that proceeds from your heart and comes out of your big mouth, "X", just like Matthew 12:34 says.
Who or what pinched you back so hard that you are such a bitter person is what you need to deal with in your life...because there is a bitter root, a poisoned well, deep within you.
You have my pity.
2:24 pm - Am I now your enemy, just because I told you the truth? You should do your homework. Covid did/does shrink brains. It kind of explains a lot and how disinformation and conspiracy theories about the vaccine gained momentum the more MAGA persons got sick throughout the pandemic. The first sign of dementia is actually paranoia. But maybe "they" knew that and it's part of their plan???
COVID-19 can cause brain shrinkage, memory loss - study
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/covid-19-can-cause-brain-shrinkage-memory-loss-study-2022-03-08/
Excerpt:
"March 8 (Reuters) - COVID-19 can cause the brain to shrink, reduce grey matter in the regions that control emotion and memory, and damage areas that control the sense of smell, an Oxford University study has found.
The scientists said that the effects were even seen in people who had not been hospitalised with COVID, and whether the impact could be partially reversed or if they would persist in the long term needed further investigation.
"There is strong evidence for brain-related abnormalities in COVID-19," the researchers said in their study, which was released on Monday.....
x
J said:
"Actually, you have so much in common with X, because you are an accuser and a slanderer."
Is that YOUR accusation and slander?
No need to respond. Just think about it, if you want. Or Don't. Hopefully we'll meet up in heaven someday and have a laugh over how wrong we both were.
x
Russia presents compelling new evidence of U.S.-backed bioweapons labs in Ukraine after document proves their existence
A Defense Threat Reduction Agency document that surfaced last week demonstrates clearly that the U.S. partnered with several former Soviet satellite countries including Ukraine on labs to ‘research’ biological threats’ and to develop “countermeasures” to them.
From Page 9 of the document...
CBEP is interested in collaborative research engagements with foreign partners in any one of the following regions: Countries of the Former Soviet Union (FSU) (specifically, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine), Africa (including, but not limited to, Kenya, Tanzania Uganda, South Africa), Southeast Asia (including, but not limited to, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand), and Middle Eastern /South Asian countries (including, but not limited to, Afghanistan, Iraq, India and Pakistan). CBEP encourages proposers to develop projects in conjunction with foreign institutions in CBEP-engaged countries.
“Fundamental research efforts enable capabilities such as development of improved detection devices for traditional and nontraditional chemical agents; development of diagnostics for existing and emerging infectious disease threats; increasing knowledge and improved capabilities for development of new or improved medical and material countermeasures to CB threats for both pre- and post-exposure scenarios; enhanced personal protection against, modeling of, prevention of, or decontamination of CB threats; and providing effective elimination strategies via non-kinetic approaches for threat agent destruction, neutralization and/or sequestration,” the document adds.
You can’t develop “improved detection devices” for “emerging infectious disease threats” as well as countermeasures without developing a biological to be able to detect.
The document speaks volumes, and once again, our government appears to be lying to us.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-03-14-russia-presents-compelling-new-evidence-us-backed-bioweapons-labs-in-ukraine.html
"X"
It is the snark and smear that is very directed toward certain people with whom you disagree (not your facts) that make you despicable, but of course you are blind to your own nastiness.
Even in the rare event you are correct it is the sourness, pettiness, other foul traits you harbor in your self-righteous self, that make you a horrible poster, given to unnecessary meanness and an over the top narrative you are still clinging to in the face of much that refutes it, every day more proving your are on the wrong side of a lot..
So you're just simply and enemy of decent people, truth or not.
A small man with an even smaller heart. How unchristian you present yourself to be.
Your own words condemn you, and several here call you on it.
Your posts are DOA the moment you post them.
You can thank yourself that you are in your own way of your "message".
It's funny and sad, both.
You still have my pity. You need it.
At dawn the Demon came to X again and asked, "Why do you not cohabit with Satan, our master?"
X then whispered, I sleep not for he's bad in deathbed"
The Demon asked him again,
"If thou hast such great wisdom as thou claim, tell me what then does thou call a lesbian dinosaur?"
X countered, "A Lickalottapus, one by whom I was raised."
X the Fortune Teller's Prophecy the Sixth:
"A scorching fire awaits those who yearn for Trump's return."
A spell
Pink hearts
Yellow moons!
Orange staaaaaaars!!
GREEEEEEN CLOOOVERS!!!
Poof
If you think the Trumps aren't part of the swamp, think again./
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/people/ivanka-trump/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUs8f-lphec
J,
It's just 2 minutes of your time.
You will love this.
The Hebrew meanings of these names Adam to Noah.
God sure knows how to write a story..
This is beautiful.
Again, Russell Brand hits the nail on the head (yeah, disregard his New Age 'awakening' statements):
This Is A Tipping Point
Russell Brand
The World Health Organisation is reportedly working on a global vaccine passport system and wants as many countries as possible to join. Will the key to the future of public life also be the linchpin of a global surveillance network?
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I called it back here: The Major New Age / New World Order / Cashless Society thrust is with the World Economic Forum!. My comment to Constance (@ 9:44 PM, searchable by keyword "precursor"): "Climate Change" and now Covid19 are being used to bring about 'The Great Reset'. The way I see it, forced vaccinations and lockdowns are but a precursor to a forced 'mark' to buy and sell.
Her response (@ 1:27 AM): To Craig 9:44,
Yes, you are probably right that forced vaccinations could well be a precursor of being forced to take the ultimate mark of the beast. Our collective stubborn failure to recognize the deaths from the virus and take preventive measures such as the vaccine could equally be a justification to force the latter...
My new response (which would have been the same as then had I responded): 'Yeah...no.' (And her reasoning was, to me at the time, a non sequitur.) And the intervening events have shown my instincts to be correct (the number of "breakthrough" cases, the continued push for mandates and passports despite the fact we are now entering the endemic phase, and the fact that this current 'vax' does little if anything to curb Omicron, etc.). The vax passport sure seems pre-planned, and it appears TPTB were going to push for it no matter how many or few went along with it. Now, whether the actual virus and its 'escape' were pre-planned is an open question. (Gain-of-function research has much evidence to support it, and the lab leak hypothesis appears the most plausible.)
I think her response to you, Craig, is right on one hand and rather pathetic one the other.
She somehow just doesn't get it about how planned this whole debacle really was from virus to vaccine.....(the cure being worse than the disease (flu albeit a nasty one-a flu nonetheless)
Lots of people have really gone soft. No wonder our freedoms mean so little to so many. How sad is that?
Why in the world would we trust the very ones who plotted against us in the first place to roll out their "solution" to what they purposefully created and it be anything good???
Socialism.
Rob folks blind then turn around and sell them a pair of eyeglasses.
Yeah, amazing how that's workable for some.
Sliding down the slippery slope is no fun ride..
It's nice to see when someone else sees what I see (and only 30 seconds!):
:That made me laugh too much !
Canadian Girl
@ 9:00 PM looks like she kind of stopped enjoying the groove there didn't she?
J stated (in part) @ 11:18 AM ...
"Hal Lindsey taught that the super sign that Jesus' second coming would be near had to be the regathering in Israel. He claimed as a Charismatic believer that he had Holy Spirit led revelation on this matter so that he interpreted the first leaves on the fig tree as the regathering of Jews in the modern nation state of Israel."
"Many evangelicals believed that Jesus would return in 1988, because a generation in the Bible lasts forty years, and Israel was founded as a modern nation state in 1948."
J,
You bring up a very important point. First, there is NOTHING in the Bible that refers to a 'regathering of Jews' as a sign of the 'soon' return of Christ. Here's how that belief became popular:
Hal Lindsey wrote "The Late Great Planet Earth," which sold over 10 million copies, making it the best selling book in the decade of the 1970's. There was even a movie made of the same title, narrated by Orson Wells, and it played in all of the nation's movie theaters. When Lindsey made his bold "regathering" claim, along with his "generation = 40 years" theory, it became incredibly popular among Charismatics and Evangelicals. Lindsey himself predicted, in writing, that the return of Christ would take place "no later than in the decade of the 1980's." (Subsequent printings AFTER 1989 conveniently removed that prediction. Incidentally, Hal Lindsey graduated from Dallas Theological Seminar, America's flagship Dispensationalist school).
(continued)
Over the span of many years, a number of the Dispensationalist claims have been proven to be utterly false. Here are just a few that come to mind; originating in the UK in the 1830's, this system gained widespread acceptance here in America (primarily due to the Scofield Reverence Bible), particularly as events began to unfold leading up to, and including, World War I. Proponents immediately tagged Germany's Kaiser Wilhelm as the Anti-Christ, claiming that he would soon form a "10 nation, revised Roman Empire confederation." It all seemed so plausible being that Russia was the "enemy" from the north. Of course all of their predictions failed. When Germany lost the war, they turned their attention to Lenin in Russia (even though he was from that nation up "north"), naming him as their new Anti-Christ. Unfortunately, Lenin died, so they shifted to Italy's Fascist Dictator Mussolini. He seemed the perfect match because he was headquartered in Rome (the city of seven hills) and was surely attempting to revise the Roman Empire. When he was exposed as a bumbling fool as a military leader, the much more powerful Hitler replaced him. They REALLY became excited with Hitler as his army moved into Eastern Europe, assuring the Dispensationalists that he would conquer the necessary European nations in order to form his 10 nation union. Amazingly, after Hitler's defeat, they then turned their attention back to Russia and named Stalin as the AC because of his Eastern Bloc of nations. On and on it goes. Their predictions, and ERRORS never stop!
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, they emphatically declared that the European Union's membership would be LIMITED to 10 nations, all based on THEIR interpretations. They don't declare that one anymore, due to the fact that the EU now has 27 nations!
With their long history of documented error, along with the lack of Biblical support for their strange claims, I'm amazed that ANYONE pays any attention to what they have to say.
The night demon, now in an angry voice demanded of X, "Thy breath stinketh, thy jaws be broken and sore. Where hast thou been?"
X, with an embarrassing countenance of crimson, replied, "In the bed of my own master, Bathhouse Barry."
"A spell
Pink hearts
Yellow moons!
Orange staaaaaaars!!
GREEEEEEN CLOOOVERS!!!
Poof
5:10 PM"
Kits, kats, sax and wives.....how many Cucks were walking to St. Ives?
"And X looked and stared, and beheld FIFTEEN Great Buckets of Bullshit."
Craig,
Again,
1. Russell Brand is a mentally ill reprobate, and
2. The vaccine, though not as effective, still reduces Omicron infection rates.
"Two doses of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine reduced the risk of Omicron infection by 31% among children aged 5–11 years and by 59% among persons aged 12–15 years."
Source: Effectiveness of 2-Dose BNT162b2 (Pfizer BioNTech) mRNA Vaccine in Preventing SARS-CoV-2 Infection Among Children Aged 5–11 Years and Adolescents Aged 12–15 Years — PROTECT Cohort, July 2021–February 2022
Early Release / March 11, 2022
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7111e1.htm?s_cid=mm7111e1_w
I just don't see how a vaccine that has been documented/evidenced this extensively even has a debate anymore. We required children be vaccinated for Chicken Pox and basically nobody dies from Chicken Pox.
I think Mrs. Cumbey's idea that the resistance to Covid Vaccine and the movement to undermine the Covid vaccine and spread chaos and disruption to it's distrubtion IS the conspiracy. YOU are the "problem" that "they" wanted to create and then, exploit for political advantage. Makes sense that opus dei pushes the conspiracy while the vatican and pope francis sits back and, in time, supports the idea of vaccine passports.
The vaccine was never the problem. It isn't perfect. No vaccine is.
x
Uh, yeah... the only way that 'the vaccine reduces Omicron infection rates' is when those who have been injected with the covid vaccine DIE of the MANY vaccine-related inuries or side effects.
X (exemplifying his well-deserved status as "accuser and slanderer" @ 10:42 PM [see item 1.]),
I didn't see where you'd previously referred to Russell Brand as "a mentally ill reprobate". Perhaps I missed it. In any case, what sort of proof do you have that he's "mentally ill"?
It sure is easier to do a dismissive character assassination instead of actually assessing the information provided (default to the genetic fallacy).
Citing the CDC is a bit circular, isn't it? Even Bill Gates admitted that Omicron is a better 'vaccine' than any Covid "vaccine". I know lots of folks, vaxxed and unvaxxed, that got Omicron and had minimal effects. That's a good thing. That means we're that much closer to the endemic stage.
But behold! There's a war going on!
Gotta get that 'opus dei' connection any way ya can, eh?
^...and bringing a red herring instead of actually addressing the main substance...
Up Jumped the Devil
X and his nothingburgers.
All he's got is gossip, slander, smear, and hype for his dead narrative.
That's what desperation looks like.
I didn't read his drivel. I don't have to.
He is so forgettable....and collapsible.
Keep up the good postings Craig!
Shout! - Opus Dei & The Knights
(apologies yet acknowledgement to the commenter who made this connection a while ago.)
And all of these so-called 'variants' are just our 'cover' for the fact that we don't have you people COVERED (as in protected)... and that's why we keep making up names of new variants (hoping you all won't catch on). LOL
Imagine mentally ill X accusing someone else of being 'mentally ill' (well, I guess it takes one to know one).
The American slide into the abyss continues ...
Mental case gets awarded "Woman of the Year" ... (man that imagines himself to be a woman):
USA Today declares Dr. Rachel Levine its 2022 'Woman of the Year'
wokesters_delight_usa_today_declares_dr_rachel_levine_its_2022_woman_of_the_year
Constance is becoming so much "Mitt Romney" it is concerning.
Maybe she was before and I just gave her more credit than she had coming?
Mitt Romney is pure smarm.
Groomed and greasy.
Yuck.
Craig,
Russell Brands' struggle with mental illness is long and well-documented (and discussed by him)
His struggle with infidelity & Godlessness, despite recently being tattoed with the image of Jesus are also well documented (by him). He is a new age mess and, as it stands now, his current 2nd (or 3rd) marriage is biblically illegitimate and, thereby, adulterous.
I really can't believe you didn't KNOW this about Russell Brand. It bleeds through just about anything I've seen by him and he doesn't have sense enough to shut up about anything. Like Dr. Rachel Levine, he's certifiably nuts. A 5 minute Search of youtube and he'll tell you all about it...
"Why I Have A Jesus Tattoo... | Russell Brand"
https://youtu.be/K51XlckGncE
"Russell Brand On Cheating & Having Affairs!"
https://youtu.be/njRrbaI3DLw
"Mental Breakdown VS Mental Breakthrough | Russell Brand"
https://youtu.be/NuNGnzI41Yg
As far as your "main points" not being addressed, I did address your false claim that vaccines weren't effective at all for Omicron.
I don't think we are heading towards vaccine passports right now. It appears Covid is largely over. It just isn't killing enough to matter anymore; but, just as quickly as Omicron variant spread through society another variant more deadly could arise spreading costly illness & death and necessitating protective vaccines again. There is no "they" controlling such and covid vaccines can and likely will be annually modifiable to protect against whatever particular variant may be creating a concern that particular year. Or not. But imagine how devastating it could be if every time you catch even a simple Covid-19 cold, it shrinks your brain and expedites dementia. But that is why we have governmental health agencies who hire smart people tasked with trying to keep our society healthy and figure this stuff out while we live out our lives concerned with other more important things, like spreading the Gospel.
x
A steller video of a Christian brother exercising discernment...
Adam Kinzinger Calls Tucker Carlson's Show 'Evil' And 'Russian Propaganda'
https://www.newsweek.com/adam-kinzinger-tucker-carlson-russia-propaganda-1688012
Excerpt:
"Republican rep. Adam Kinzinger said he rejected an invitation to appear on Tucker Carlson's Fox News show because of the host's "evil" spreading of Russian propaganda and defense of Vladimir Putin.
In a video on Twitter, the Illinois Congressman described how there is "no way" that he would go on Carlson's show because of his recent comments regarding Russia, as well as him "spreading lies" about the existence of the U.S.-funded laboratories in Ukraine which are producing biological or chemical weapons.
In recent weeks, Carlson has been accused of echoing similar rhetoric to Russian propaganda during his primetime show. According to a recent Mother Jones report, the Russian government has instructed its news outlets to show clips of Carlson "as much as possible" because of his critical views of the U.S. policy.
"There's no way I'll go on the show for a number of reasons. But first, let me state that his insistence that the West was provoking war with Putin, his spreading lies about bio labs and his continued spewing of conspiracy theories are nothing but complete evil," Kinzinger said.
"His show is full of Russian propaganda and not news, and I will not validate his show by making an appearance."
Kinzinger also suggested he was only invited into Carlson's show to get viewers and make more money to "further empower his garbage." The congressman also criticized Carlson's interviewing technique on his show when a guest says something he disagrees with. "When Tucker interviews someone in a hostile way, he interrupts and laughs when he has been caught in a lie. And after the segment's over, he brings on another guest to try to discredit any statement made by the prior guest without counter," he said. "He's not interested in conversations. He's only interested in himself. And at the end of the day, he'll continue to use this platform to deceive his all-too-trusting viewers and to further his own sense of power."
x
Tucker Carlson attacks The View hosts for calling for him to be ARRESTED and defends his claim that the US has failed to destroy deadly pathogens in Ukrainian bio-labs and points out that CBS News says they contain anthrax
Tucker Carlson, who has questioned why Joe Biden is getting involved in Ukraine, has been widely condemned in the media
Carlson on Monday night defended his remarks, singling out the hosts and guests of The View for calling for an investigation into his claims
Ana Navarro called for a Department of Justice inquiry, and Whoopi Goldberg said people used to be arrested for making claims similar to Carlson's
Carlson invited onto his show Tulsi Gabbard, former congresswoman for Hawaii, who has warned about U.S. biolabs in Ukraine
Her claims were seized on by the Russians as an excuse for the invasion: Gabbard said she was just concerned for the safety of the world from pathogens
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10613461/Tucker-Carlson-hits-hosts-View-call-foreign-asset-dictator.html
We have to keep 'protecting' the SECRETS of Joe & Hunter Biden, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.... and THAT's what the U.S. defense of Ukraine is really ALL ABOUT. (These secrets have to do with money laundering and human trafficking.)
Crybaby poo-poo pants Kinzinger is a another one.
He knows sticking with and protecting status quo Washington D.C. politics will butter his own bread, while it takes bread and butter off of American tables.
Complicit and dangerous attention hounds have sold us out.
D.C. protects and provides for it's own.
They do not work for us. And they are evil.
Kremlin complains that the U.S. is ignoring Ukraine's genocide on their own people!!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10603031/Kremlin-whines-building-military-Eastern-Europe.html
How the Bidens helped neo-nazis rise to power in Ukraine 8 years ago.
(Joe and his son, Hunter Biden were in business with Ihor Kolomoisky. Follow the money!!!)
https://truth11.com/2022/03/06/the-bidens-helped-neo-nazis-rise-to-power-in-ukraine/
Putin orders military to destroy bio labs in Ukraine (as U.S. scrubs evidence of their existence).
https://truth11.com/2022/02/26/putin-orders-military-to-destroy-bio-labs-in-ukraine-as-us-scrubs-evidence-of-their-existence/
The Globalists do NOT work for the American people. They work toward their OWN selfish financial interests only... to the point of selling their own souls. Travel down the rabbit hole... and follow the money!!! They will ALL have to stand before Almighty God one day and answer for what they have done!!!
X 12:09 PM,
It appears Covid is largely over. It just isn't killing enough to matter anymore; but, just as quickly as Omicron variant spread through society another variant more deadly could arise spreading costly illness & death and necessitating protective vaccines again.
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COVID is behaving as past new viral pandemics. As a new virus mutates and spreads through a population, it becomes more infectious but less virulent. This always happens. It usually takes about two years or so.
The vaccines are a cash cow. Imagine selling a product with zero liability, government capital, free advertising and marketing from the government health organizations, mandatory distribution, and nearly mandatory "consuming."
It's worth billions in revenue. You really think all of this could only ever happen from the goodness of our betters' hearts?
6:01 PM,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUs8f-lphec
Thank you for sharing this video with me, I never heard that before about the names in Genesis. It's amazing and can't be a coincidence.
J,
Treatments, especially ones "sold" to desperate people in immediate need of such treatments are actually more profitable than vaccines in the long run.
But yeah, vaccines can be profitable for the companies that are fortunate to bring an effective vaccine to market. Lots of investment was also made in covid vaccines that never succeeded too. The vaccines we got were substantially more effective than even expected. But money and politics can corrupt the process so proceeding cautiously is wise, to a point. I just argue that point doesn't include making up, distorting and spreading deliberate and obvious misrepresentations motivated by a desire to be right (personally and politically) about outlandish conspiracy theories.
You don't have a problem with profits now, do you? (asking for a friend here that really doesn't like Marxists)
x
5:17 pm
We are called to pray for our leaders without dissension. I pray for Biden's success and salvation just as I prayed for Trump's repentance and salvation. Biden needs a lot more help cleaning up the messes left by Trump as well as Covid. Time to be ACTUAL a patriotic Christian (when it's hard). You have no idea what God has planned for Biden and the rest of us.
A Call to Prayer
First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity. This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time. For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying) as a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
Therefore I want the men in every place to pray, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and dissension. 1 Timothy 2:1-8 NASB
x
Well x, your prayers are heard.
By your worldly government gods.
You are getting what you ask for, globalism du jour.
The Lord can't honor the prayers of an accuser of the brethren, a hater, "Mr Murder by Mouth", such as yourself.
The devil answers yours, so save your preaching for yourself, hypocrite.
Timothy was written from a pastor to a pastor. It is about conduct in church.
As always the whole counsel of the word needs to be considered.
Moses' mother defied civil authorities when she saved baby Moses.
X 5:39 PM,
You don't have a problem with profits now, do you? (asking for a friend here that really doesn't like Marxists)
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It depends. Are you implying it would be somehow hypocritical if I did? If so, how?
You pray for success for Biden's godless agenda do you, x?
And this honors God you say?
You don't have a Bible worldview. You have an agenda from hell, it is the definition of wrath for the offences that come through it, and will incur the wrath of God.
Woe to them through offences come so this includes you for your complicity, support, of it. You are guilty with them.
Hell gonna be hot, "bro".
X (the perpetual perpetuator of straw men and red herrings),
So, having had a mental breakdown indicates current mental illness, eh? You seem to enjoy slandering individuals as a means by which to disregard their work.
And, for the life of me, I cannot figure out how you can expect non-Christians to adhere to Christian values. Yet, you subject non-Christians that differ in ideologies with yours to the Christian worldview over and over, ad nauseum. And, hypocritically, you tend NOT to subject those whose ideologies agree with yours to this same standard. Biden is one such example.
Your study from the very unreliable CDC (recall those bogus mask ‘studies’, e.g.?) is for purported effectiveness against COVID-19 in a cohort that is scarcely affected by COVID-19 in the first place. That’s hardly any proof. My point, which you’ve straw-manned, is that generally the vaxxed gaining little, if any, benefit from the vaxxes, given the number of ‘breakthrough’ cases. (We cannot possibly know the exposure, if any, of those who did not manage to get a ‘breakthrough case, for comparison.) And that was only one of the points I’d made.
You wrote: … We required children be vaccinated for Chicken Pox and basically nobody dies from Chicken Pox.
You’re mixing fruits again, X. These CV-19 vaxxes are unlike traditional vaccines.
Then, on one hand (your first reply @ 10:42 PM) you claim that the unvaxxed are the problem that will force vax mandates, then on the other hand (your 12:09 PM) you claim—agreeing with one of the points in my initial comment on this subject—that COVID is basically over. The difference is that you doubt the WHO will go forward with a global vaccine on this basis, while I think this will be pushed anyway, as there are many countries (Canada, NZ, Italy) that seem enthusiastic about such a thing. I suppose time will tell. In the meantime, I think it prudent to take words of these unelected global bodies—which exert immense influence on we the people/sheeple—very seriously unless and until shown that such words are backtracked.
X's god complex comes shining through once again.
The marXism of his worldview and the way that he calls evil good and good evil, is characteristic of a new ager...the liberal progressive socialist globalist mindset that bows the knee to the gods of this world.
He doesn't act like a sheep, he acts like a goat.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/we-have-wasted-2-years-on-lockdowns-stanford-medical-professor-blasts-govts-after-covid-antibodies-found-in-blood-sam
As early as Sept 2019 huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-v1YaNAkqo
Mixing his fruits again is he?
x needs this video to learn the differences between fruits and shapes and colors.
It's easy x!
Apply yourself and you can get beyond kindergarten!
Craig,
It's a slanderous statement that I slandered Russell Brand.
It wasn't JUST a mental breakdown, he's been and talked about being Bi-Polar for years.
I also am not holding Russell Brand to my standard as I don't know the man and he's not here. I called him a reprobate. A sinner not of the elect who is unlikely to bear any good fruit.
Your mileage may vary.
I am aware Biden isn't a Christian. Neither was Trump. So I voted for the far less evil of the two.
I don't think I said ...."the unvaxxed are the problem that will force vax mandates" but rather the unvaxxed may have set the stage for the future anti-Christ(s) to point at the supposedly Christian defiance and rebellion to even effective life-saving vaccines in 2021 as a precursor to having to enforce some mark of allegiance to him under penalty of death. Of course, at that time the psuodo-christian new age MAGA/Qanon types will be well on board with the Anti-Christ and won't be putting their own necks on the line at that time. It's easy to do now when your foregoing a vaccine only increasing your small estimated chance of Covid death by about a multiple of 40. Like I said before, if Covid were Ebola and millions more died a gruesome death and the ebola vaccine was as effective as the covid vaccine, we wouldn't be having this discussion. The mark of the beast is going to be a much more difficult personal decision versus a political stunt of rebellion with measurable but not overwhelming real-life risk (my 1st Cousin lost that gamble). That'll be the real "sheeple" test.
Further, considering the success NZ and Australia had saving lives, following the lead of their governments and health professionals wouldn't be a horrible proposition. I'm not really for it in the US because I know the rebellious spirit that resides in many here and I just don't want to hear it but we shall see, over time, just how effective any vaccine passport can be. I still prefer my idea of a tax. Like a W2, just attach your vaccine status to your tax return and pay a fee for going vaccine less based upon a current calculation of the excess risk of remaining vaccine non-compliant.
x
X,
You wrote: I also am not holding Russell Brand to my standard as I don't know the man and he's not here. I called him a reprobate. A sinner not of the elect who is unlikely to bear any good fruit.
Really? How 'bout: ...his current 2nd (or 3rd) marriage is biblically illegitimate and, thereby, adulterous.
Subjecting everyone whose viewpoints don't align with yours to this Biblical marriage standard is your hobby horse. I suggest you climb off.
Your point about NZ and Australia omits the fact that there were VERY high societal costs that ended up in lost lives due to the severe lockdowns (hasten deaths due to missed medical appointments, suicides, etc.), which also resulted in the economic ruin of many.
And your tax idea doesn't account for natural immunity.
X 8:30 PM,
I'm not really for it in the US because I know the rebellious spirit that resides in many here and I just don't want to hear it but we shall see, over time, just how effective any vaccine passport can be.
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The Christian concept of leadership is "servant leadership." We live under a representative form of government. We call our elected representatives "public servants."
A Republic that gives its citizens freedom relies upon the citizens to be self-regulating. Self-control is one of the fruits of the spirit.
Since we have responsibility as citizens if our government does evil, we are responsible to do what we can to hold our government accountable. Otherwise we enable our government commit sins that hurt us and our fellow citizens.
In this context, please explain to me what you mean by a "rebellious spirit."
X,
You wrote:
It's a slanderous statement that I slandered Russell Brand.
It wasn't JUST a mental breakdown, he's been and talked about being Bi-Polar for years.
In the original context of your statement against Brand you used the mental illness label both as a pejorative and a means by which to totally dismiss his statements. It was meant as a slander, not as a nuanced statement of fact, as you are trying to portray here.
So, “slander” is a valid term to characterize your characterization of Brand. Consequently, my stating that you slandered Brand is not slanderous.
Quit playing semantic games.
X is a mega gossip.
His hobby horse.
One of the things God hates is a person who sows discord among brethren.
That's his M.O.
https://youtu.be/v5SG6SCLIQY
Nice red herring Craig….
So he IS mentally ill but now you want to call my inference based upon such fact as slanderous.
That doesn’t work. A simple expression of opinion based on nondefamatory facts is not itself slanderous.
It’s my opinion. Do u think I’m lying about my opinion?
Brand is bipolar and thus, prone to delusions of grandeur, unwanted thoughts and delusions.
He is a reprobate and as a former drug addict (who is also likely still on mood altering prescriptions of some kind) he is likely brain injured and functioning in an altered state.
He may have some funny & creative jokes but IMO taking anything he has to say too seriously, especially if you are a discerning Christian aware of his new agedness mumbo jumbo of beliefs, would be seriously unwise …ESPECIALLY anything conspiratorial.
Again…your mileage and tolerance for the ramblings of non-Christian reprobate persons self confessed mentally I’ll may vary
X
J,
Maybe you run for office yourself or go work on a campaign to get less evil humans into governmental positions of authority. Otherwise, do not fear.
As far my Christian idea of a rebellious spirit beyond just basic juvenile rebelliousness that we are all familiar with, I think it comes down to my criticism of dominionism and rebellion theology.
It seems to me, biblically, rebellion is disobedience to God and is likened to the spirit of divination. (See 1 Samuel 15 Below). That is an important parallel because divination is what pagan cultures practiced in hopes of communication with spirits in search of answers. God warned Israel that those practices are forbidden since He is their source. Thus, rebellion is established on a pride that says, “I don't need you, God. I will find answers”. Then, in that vein…I begin to influence people with MY TRUTH (and disinformation) and I’m seeking all the glory. (which can be seen notably in the machismo exhibited by MAGA dominionists)
Rebellion is synonymous with change, disobedient, disobey, provoke, rebellious, and rebel. In the New Testament, similar words for rebellion are disobedience and sedition. The first documented act of sedition (or rebellion) occurred in Heaven when Lucifer led ⅓ of the angels to revolt, and the second documented act of rebellion was in Eden. Those “rebellions” didn’t work out to well for us humans.
Further, Rebellion wants to be worshiped and obeyed instead of having a relationship and submission to God. Rebellion cuts off your Kingdom privileges, but by God's grace, a rebellious person can still have access to God through Jesus Christ. Yet the purpose of the “spirit of rebellion” is to block a believer from thriving, impeding sanctification.
Any and all conspiratorial speculation aside, I think you would agree our agendas are not more important than God’s.
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as idolatry and teraphim (household good luck images). Because you have rejected the word of the Lord, He also has rejected you from being king.
1 Samuel 15:23
(Sorry it’s choppy I’m typing on my phone - I’m obviously not a Pastor so this is just a biblical discussion, trying to answer a question versus trying to teach anyone anything)
X
X,
That's no red herring. That's calling your motives for what they are. You've made it very clear. Context is what determines meaning. You used 'mentally ill' as a pejorative. And now you are using it even further as a pretext to dismiss anything Brand says, which is what you initially implied.
You've still not really countered anything substantive that Brand brought forth. Do you deny the WEF's goal for global digital IDs, something that's been discussed for years prior to this pandemic? Do you deny the goal for The Great Reset?
YOU are the one tossing the red herrings. As you do it quite often to deflect away. I challenge you to take any of Brand's statements--not inferences (and not obvious jokes)--and counter them.
Brand comes across far more lucid than you do many times here.
You really do have a superiority complex. I'd really like to know what your supposed doctorate is in.
Millions of people, fully vaccinated for COVID, are now suffering from excruciating illnesses
Deadly side effects observed by one Midwestern doctor are:
• Strokes, likely strokes and blood clots
• Hemorrhages
• Heart conditions
• Sudden death (unknown cause)
• Anaphylaxis and allergies
• Other neurological conditions
• Psychiatric conditions
• Autoimmune disorders and chronic fatigue
• Immune suppression and cancer
• Menstrual irregularities and miscarriages
• Birth defects
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-03-15-millions-fully-vaccinated-covid-suffering-excruciating-illnesses.html
One opinion:
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X 12:55 AM,
Okay, but going back to the previous context of your statement about rebellion, and now connecting it to your latest post, are you implying that resistance to vaccine mandates is equivalent to rebellion against God?
Jesus said render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. Render unto God what is God's. Very pithy but very profound, especially since Caesar pretty much was worshiped as God in ancient Rome. Jesus limited what Caesar was entitled to have rendered to him. Why? Because you can't serve two masters.
We have no Caesar. We have representative government. But we are not only entitled to limit statism. We're required to limit statism. Just as Jesus limited what Caesar is entitled to have rendered unto him. In this way we can render unto the state what is the state's and render unto God what is God's.
Again, given our responsibility as citizens under our form of government, we are expected to have opinions and to seek influence. You seemed to like the "rebellion" against DeSantis by the students who still wanted to wear masks, right?
It's ridiculous to expect the sheep of Jesus to be the sheeple of the state and to conflate those two things.
Sheep are picky eaters. Goats eat everything. I am picky about the vaccines. The early Christians were not supposed to eat meat sacrificed to idols. And I don't want to take the vaccines into my body. You're telling me I'm rebelling if I don't just accept something being forced into my body by the state. I don't think it all adds up.
P.S. We are supposed to have authority and hierarchy and law and order. It was ordained by God.
Obviously as Christians we see a higher law, God's Law. It's a higher standard to refer to. We don't see the police officer as a law unto himself. We see him as being held to a higher standard.
This type of organization is everywhere in our world. We have standards and authorities and teachers and gatekeepers. We do this because it is functional. It's a way for us to cooperate socially. Even science is this way. We have a standard, the scientific method. We have gatekeepers, the editors of the science journals. There are authorities. But those authorities are supposed to be held to a higher standard. It's the same with a newspaper. The editor is an authority, but the editor refers to the AP Style Guide. A reader may write a letter to the editor correcting a fact or expressing a different opinion.
This is how we do things now. It's how we organize everything. It's all corrupted, because it's only as good as the character of the people who fill the roles in any system or any organization. But since we all participate in our systems, we all have at least some responsibility. We are a participative society, although often the participation is only token.
Why do you think Christians are supposed to be passive? Do you think we are only to be internally pious while we wait to die and go to heaven, without being a salt or a light in the world, without being active in any way?
You use the word Dominionist a lot, X, and very loosely. A Dominionist is somebody seeking a theocracy with no separation of church and state. You seem to use it as if it is the opposite of being passive.
Properly understood, in my belief, the kingdom of God is in heaven, but it's also on earth in the form of the church. But that doesn't mean the Christian only goes to church and never actively lives out anything that was learned in church. In actively living out beliefs, the Christian will inevitably have an effect on the world, and it will always be an imperfect effect in this life.
Why would you think that as Christians we can't participate in the decisions that affect our health?
P.S. I don't believe the vaccine is either the mark of the beast or a precursor to the mark of the beast.
But it seems to me that the vaccine has a lot in common with meat that was sacrificed to idols. One, it was heavily funded and promoted by a man who plays God, Bill Gates. Two, it is step towards manipulating human genetics, or transforming the biology of the creatures that were created in God's image.
Three, a vaccine mandate is an attempt to exert unprecedented control over nature and mankind, in effect an intended step towards a totalitarian kingdom of government gods on earth who attempt to force their idea of heaven on earth. They want us to believe that they can give us a world where nobody gets sick or dies anymore. They want us to look to them from the manna from heaven. They want us to see them as the pillar of light guiding us in the desert as we wander through the pandemic and wait for the Promised Land of no more illness and no more death and no more risk and complete rest and complete care. They want us to look to them as the Rock in the desert with the water flowing out of it.
In effect, the Statism gives, and Statism takes away. Statism gives distributions to the people locked down. Statism takes away freedoms. Statism takes away businesses. Statism gives vaccines. Statism takes away freedoms. Statism takes away rights. Statism gives rights back. Statism gives masks. Statism takes away mask mandates. Statism gives mask mandates back.
It doesn't have to be the end of the world to be another iteration of fallen human nature, with oppressive tyranny from people who are attempting to play god, when they are really meant to be practicing servant leadership as they kneel to a higher standard, and I don't mean kneeling to BLM.
Sheep, not sheeple.
One thing about sheep being shepherded is that the sheep have freedom to wander and roam within some boundaries. They were not kept fenced inside of pastures in ancient times. King David was a shepherd as a boy. He actually had to defend his flock from a lion and a bear. Faith in God gave him the courage to confront the lion and the bear threatening the sheep.
Fun facts about sheep that Israelite shepherds would have been familiar with:
https://petkeen.com/what-do-sheep-eat/
Sheep can normally be found in extreme climates where other mammals may struggle.
Sheep are picky eaters, they always find a way to adapt to their environment, familiarizing themselves where different plants grow in the area. They will eat anything of nutritional value and will choose plants with fibrous stalks or nutritional growth before moving to other sources that they can find.
As herbivores, sheep contribute to their environment by grazing fields which controls the growth of local vegetative species. With their hooves, they also break up the soil when they walk which promotes soil health and plant growth, as well as the soil’s ability to absorb water. By living in areas rich in plant-life, sheep can contribute to the ecosystem just by walking on and eating plants!
Good share about sheep, J.
Makes me think that progressive socialist goats like x, eating everything lamestream media feeds him, proving that goats are damaging to their environment, their neighbors, themselves, but he's too proud to acknowledge his goatness. No sheep of the Lord, that one.
He'd rather create damage, waste, and warrings (division and discord) of various kinds..and unnecessary.
J said @ 9:51 AM
"I don't believe the vaccine is either the mark of the beast or the precursor to the mark of the beast"
And: "It doesn't have to be the end of the world to be another iteration of fallen human nature, with oppressive tyranny from people who are attempting to play god, when they are really meant to be practicing servant leadership as they kneel to a higher standard, and I don't mean kneeling to BLM"
J
The vast majority of our selected leaders are indeed practicing servant leadership. Just not to the God of the bible.
How you can not see that the vaccine, with all its dangerous, rigid, and oppressive enforcement, isn't a precursor to the Mark of the beast is beyond me? But maybe its just another one of those annoying "iterations?" Not the end of the world, oh no!
Not really into your dominionism trip J. It impedes discernment, and leads others astray.
Collapsing your too numerous posts from now on. Advising others here to beware of your leaven, and lack of discernment.
@ 8:30 PM X stated he voted for Biden because he was the lesser of two evils!
Honestly! He really thinks that! And the good doctor X, is qualified to label Russell Brand as nuts!
What You Need to Know About the Transhumanist Agenda
(They are playing 'god' ... and their 'god' is none other than Satan himself)
According to Klaus Schwab, founder and executive chairman of the World Economic Forum (WEF), the goal of The Fourth Industrial Revolution is to change what it means to be human by merging man and machine.
Humans are now “hackable,” in that technology now exists by which a company or government can know you better than you know yourself, and that can be very dangerous if misused.
Professor Yuval Noah Harari predicts that algorithms will increasingly be used to make decisions that have historically been made by humans, either yourself or someone else, including whether or not you’ll be hired for a particular job, whether you’ll be granted a loan, what scholastic curriculum you will follow and even who you will marry.
More from Professor Harari, top advisor to Klaus Schwab (WATCH THE VIDEO!):
“For four billion years, nothing fundamental changed in the basic rules of the game of life,” he said. “All of life was subject to the laws of natural selection and the laws of organic biochemistry. But this is now about to change.
"Science is replacing evolution by natural selection with evolution by intelligent design, not the intelligent design of some god in the clouds, [but] OUR intelligent design, and the design of our ‘clouds,’ the IBM cloud, the Microsoft cloud. These are the new driving forces of evolution.”
https://noqreport.com/2022/03/16/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-transhumanist-agenda/
Collapsing your too numerous posts from now on. Advising others here to beware of your leaven, and lack of discernment.
11:01 AM
Agreed. Both J and RayB argue bad theology.
Anonymous @ 11:11 AM states (in part):
"Not really into your dominionism trip J. It impedes discernment, and leads others astray."
Anon,
I've read every post by J over the years. First, I have never recognized anything even remotely in her posts that would establish her as a "Dominionist." (I've also been accused of the same as well, which is equally nonsensical).
Second, being that you have chosen to label J as a Dominionist, I'd love to hear what you have to say as to what exactly your understanding of Dominionism actually is.
I look forward to your detailed explanation as to what you think Dominionism is.
Anon @ 11:26 AM states:
"Agreed. Both J and RayB argue bad theology."
This should be fun.
Be SPECIFIC, what "bad theology" you are referring to and explain, in detail, WHY you have determined it to be "bad theology."
11:01 and 11:26,
Collapse what you want. I would be interested in your answers to RayB's questions, too.
11:26 AM,
J and RayB's time line and certain prophecies are considered fulfilled completely, (where I have some differences with them because some are twofold in my thinking...and I am not Dominionist), but does not make them Dominionist in the least, either.
Otherwise we are in sync, because it is really about the Gospel first and foremost.
The main thing is to keep the main thing, the main thing. They do.
Surely not one of us of different denominations or leanings has it all correct at this point in how to interpret certain passages.....but I hope we all see to keep the main thing in it's place and simply give grace for the differences here and there.
I don't see arguing over what we all will have some correction to one degree or another coming to us in this meanwhile.
RayB,
You might be interested in this. I learned that the Pharisees in the time of Jesus did not believe in a spiritual resurrection but a fleshly one. They had speculative debates among themselves as to whether, if one of them were to be outside the land of Israel when the resurrection happened, he would be able to tunnel under the ground, pop up in the land of Israel, and become resurrected.
One more think I learned is that, when Jesus gave his Sermon on the Mount about loving your enemy, it was a response to something Pharisees had added. They had added to, "love your neighbor," another commandment to "hate your enemy." They simply considered their neighbors fellow Jews but not gentiles -- and I suppose not lost tribes of Israel, either. In this context what Jesus was preaching was not a departure from Old Testament teaching. It was a response to something the Pharisees had added to the Old Testament teaching.
1:49 PM,
I was typing while you were. I didn't see your post before I typed.
Thank you, I agree with you that "the main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing." Well put!
New World Order Nazis are very busy these days ...
World #1 banned from Wimbledon unless he denounces Putin…
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/world-1-banned-from-wimbledon-unless-he-denounces-putin/
Translation: you MUST think, believe, accept and act upon EVERYTHING that your Masters at the New World Order declares.
If you do not, your life will be cancelled.
Remember: NEVER question anything. DO NOT THINK. Believe EVERYTHING that Big Brother is telling you.
Slavery is Freedom and Ignorance is Strength
J,
Civil disobedience isn't necessarily rebellious divination.
Consider John MacArthur holding outlawed church services during covid while stating that if God intended for him to have a jail ministry, then so be it. He recognized and accounted for the legal authority of California to arrest and detain him while still acting out in peaceful civil disobedience. Where as the MAGA/Qanon civil disobedience we all witnessed on Jan 6th was an attempt to overthrow the Government/rule of law and appoint their own preferred would be king.
One of Martin Luther King's guiding principles of civil disobedience is that it must be undertaken in the right spirit. Meaning, foremost, that civil disobedience must convey a proper respect for law. In the endeavor to fulfill the law, the would-be reformer must be properly mindful of the danger of destroying it. King felt civil disobedience must convey a respect for the authority of law as an indispensable and inherently fragile instrument of human governance, no less than for the rational principles from which the law must ultimately derive. Moreover, as his illustrations of unjust law make clear, it must convey a special respect for the authority of democratically enacted law. Against his critics, King insisted that civil disobedience signifies no disrespect but, to the contrary, “the highest respect for law.” 35 King, “Letter,” in Why We Can’t Wait pp. 83–84.
For King, as in the logic of the Declaration, civil disobedience may be practiced only where necessary and only so far as necessary to the purpose of reforming an unjust human law.
To practice civil disobedience only where necessary means, in the precise sense, to practice it as a next-to-last resort, short only of uncivil or violent resistance to tyranny. In the Declaration, as previously noted, prudence dictates that action to alter or abolish an unjust order may be taken only by “necessity”—only after “patient sufferance” of “a long train of abuses,” wherein “repeated Petitions” offered “in the most humble terms … have been answered only by repeated injury.”
A partially mandated covid vaccine that nobody was being held down physically and forced to take hardly qualifies as something "long suffered" like the centuries-long trials and tribulations of southern black persons.
x
p.s. - Craig, I'm not going to listen to Russell Brand to then go about proving to you that he's crazy as cocoa puffs. Doesn't mean he can't put sentences together. His trees may have some fruits, they just aren't particular or consistently, I'm certain...to be "good fruit". I already have a digital id, my email and my cable company assigns me an IP address as well making some of my internet activity traceable when I'm not using a VPN or logging in on my neighbor's guest access. The WEP will espouse what they want to grow their power and influence just as the heritage foundation, Opus Dei and various other groups here in the US attempt to control and direct the Republican party. I'm not afraid of them.
X 2:02 PM,
I didn't say anything about January 6th. I didn't even say anything about civil disobedience. It didn't even need to rise to the level of civil disobedience since the Supreme Court struck down vaccine mandates.
You seemed to me to imply that people here in this comments section have an ungodly rebellious spirit just from warning people about vaccine mandates and advocating against them. Is that not what you mean to imply?
I already have a digital id, my email and my cable company assigns me an IP address as well making some of my internet activity traceable when I'm not using a VPN or logging in on my neighbor's guest access.
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What was that all about?
RayB said:
"Translation: you MUST think, believe, accept and act upon EVERYTHING that your Masters at the New World Order declares."
I'm not defending homosexual or transgender nonsense, but I'm wondering, in light of your sentiment above as it relates to a tennis player being banned from competition by a private organization how you feel about the "Don't say gay" laws of Flordia and Idaho passing laws making transgender stuff a felony.
You can be against such laws because they are an invasion of that same sentiment --- big government telling it's citizens how to think, behave, act and what they can say, without really agreeing or condoning such self-destructive sinful behavior.
I get that they THINK they are protecting children but are not these types of laws just a precursor to anti-Christian laws that the Anti-Christ will use to "legally" persecute Christians?
That's the problem with Dominionism and the seven mountain mandate -- such new age movements will be perverted by humans into a type of authoritarianism the likes that have never been seen....a theonomy that is anything but Biblical.
x
It's Dominionism to prevent child grooming under the guise of sex education and child abuse under the guise of gender re-assignment?
J,
The second part...in my P.S. - was a brief response to Craig.
When participants here go beyond facts and legitimate figures and participate, deliberately and/or moronically, in MAGA/Qanon political disinformation surrounding vaccines intending to disrupt and spread unsubstantiated rumors of conspiracies...they are participating in rebellious divination.
Such divination has contributed in the unnecessary deaths of hundreds of thousands, including my uneducated cousin who fell for the bullcrap and paid with his life.
x
"must be undertaken in the right spirit."
So when are ya gonna start?....because we have yet to see it from you.
You are obnoxious as you virtue signal and preach here, gossip and slander monger, divisive sower of discord, disinfo agent of government abuse. How is it you are not convicted by your own unholy spirit that you display, time and time again, yet claim you are a christian?
Physician, heal your own despicable self.
You are phony as a $4 bill.
x.
Ivermectin would have likely saved your cousin but it was withheld from so many sick Americans.
Ventilators were killing them. We saw that first hand in a couple of instances.
And Ivermectin helped a number of folks I know, and know that first hand, too.
Your government fiends at the top of the heap raked in $$$ (always follow the money) as people died under their restrictions to real and viable healthcare.
And even at that, 98% still lived. Including my 93 year old Dad.
Pay attention to minutes 2:30 - 2:40. Did x just reveal his approval/endorsement of this system? Hostility towards it is “rebellion”?
https://youtu.be/r81Atqd2MM0
J @ 1:54 PM ...
I started reading through the NT awhile back, and recently read I Corinthians chapter 15, so your reference regarding some of the Pharisees denying a 'spiritual' resurrection reminded me of what I had read in this chapter. Among the believers in Corinth, some denied the "resurrection of the dead." That really struck me. ("Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?) - 15:12. For whatever reason, I don't recall reading that before.
I've been reading the Scriptures for over 40 years now. I am often amazed at how much I continue to learn, even after having read some of these epistles, books, passages, etc. dozens of times. I think that is perhaps why it is called the "living word?"
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