Monday, February 15, 2021

Duane Elgin & Fetzer Institute vision for our future

Duane Elgin is a New Ager who has been on my personal radar since discovering the Movement and its direction in 1981. John Earl Fetzer was then the owner of the Detroit Tigers and a vast network of radio and television stations in mid-size cities such as Kalamazoo, Michigan where he was headquartered. Fetzer was a former Seventh Day Adventist who completely apostatized from any semblance of orthodox forms of Christianity. He was one of the New Agers of whom Marilyn Ferguson wrote in The Aquarian Conspiracy (1980). Duane Elgin was the author of Voluntary Simplicity and has been a continuous and contiguous force in the "Sustainable Development" and environmental movements, including but not limited to "overpopulation" concerns. John Earl Fetzer may have very well been a primary financier of the April 25,1982 newspaper ads run globally proclaiming "The Christ is Now Here."
At any rate, Fetzer was thoroughly on board for the "cleansing action" the 1980 through 1982 era when New Agers were prophesying doom for their Christian opposition. Files I have downloaded from the Fetzer websites conclusively prove that and I have them multiply backed up in many places in case they go back to their usual game of "now you see us, now you don't" is again played, There has been a close working relationship between the Fetzer Institute and Duane Elgin for a very long time. Also,interesting to my research and wonderings why Hitler's mysticism was so long concealed from all is the fact that John Earl Fetzer was in charge of media censorship during World War II. He was, per his writings, one of the first persons to enter Joseph Goebbels office after the allies took Berlin. Duane Elgin has made two of his books available for free download from his website. I took full advantage and downloaded Awakening Earth (1992) and Choosing Earth (2020). I suggest you read the following from his Awakening Earth (pages) very carefully and with prayerful reflection on what it means to our future should the Fetzer Institute and Elgin forces get their way:
Religious Fanaticism—Because so many of humankind’s wars have been fought between people with differing religious views and because the world is entering a time of growing compression and proximity among people, religious differences will present enormous challenges for humanity. Under conditions of great planetary stress, different historical religions could coalesce around charismatic spiritual leaders and come into conflict. The planet could then descend into religious wars, perhaps with a new era of crusades intended to liberate the world from unbelieving infidels. Religious fanaticism could lead to spiritual tyranny and undermine trust in a compassionate and broadly shared spiritual ethic that can bind humanity into a single family. Another possibility is that a significant fraction of the world may view extreme planetary distress as a sure indication of a coming apocalypse and feel relatively little concern for starvation, pollution, and resource depletion. If these are seen as the last days before a miraculous spiritual transformation, then people may assume that “God” will intervene and clean up the mess. Instead of mounting a vigorous and creative response to the challenge of sustainability, people may simply wait for the apocalyptic end, or abrupt transformation, of the world
Stay tuned! Constance

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J said...

IGNORED BY MEDIA AND FBI: Antifa-BLM Activists Are Posting Photos and Bragging Online About Storming US Capitol on Jan. 6

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/ignored-media-fbi-antifa-blm-activists-posting-photos-bragging-online-storming-us-capitol-jan-6/

Just one example:

Discord user "deaththreat" just outed himself in the chat.

He said "I was in front line of the battle and know who was there personally."

"IT WAS A LARGE SUM OF ANTI-TRUMPERS."

He then posts a screenshot from a video and circles himself.

J said...

X 3:29 PM said:

We as Christians don't change minds and "make converts" by hating the sexually immoral and making outcasts of the sinful by force, intimidation or even law, but by His love, righteousness and justice. We lead unbelieving sinners to Him otherwise they are left to God to judge. They will be held accountable for each sin by Him. Sanctification comes only after conversion.

I agree with these statements, but who and what are you arguing with, given that we've moved so far beyond the era of sodomy laws being on the books? (But it's unlikely those laws were ever enforced much, even back then.)

One would think from your statements that we live in the days of one of my ancestors in the Massachusetts colony, who was driven out of several towns for his acts of fornication.

Haven't you noticed that it's not enough for the LGBTQ+ movement to have civil rights, that they demand to be celebrated and affirmed, and they seek to cancel all who do not affirm them?

You do know that people aren't put in the public stocks in the town square anymore? That they're not tarred and feathered anymore?

Except for figuratively, with cancel culture, and who is controlling that? Not Christians.

Your side is winning the culture wars, X. Winning and whining have to stop going together at some point.

J said...

X 3:29 PM,

Just as many Muslim leaders have felt the need to denounce distorted, violent versions of their faith, we as real Christians need to denounce this violent heretical mutation of our faith. What we saw manifest itself in the insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, 2021 is a threat to our democracy, but it is also a bigger threat to the orthodox Christian faith. The word “Christian” means “Christ-like.” We may not agree on everything, but we can agree on this -- Christians should live in a way that honors Jesus, and reminds the world of Him. As Jesus himself said, "They will know that you are my disciples by the way you love” (John 13:35). No Christian can defend the unChristlike behavior of those who committed the violence on January 6. Not only was it anti-democratic, but it was also anti-Christian.

I agree with almost everything you said except for the part I bolded, which was not clear. I will denounce it as soon as you explain what you mean by "this violent heretical mutation of our faith".

That seems pretty big and pretty important, so I want to get it right. Please explain what you mean by it.

(For the record, I agree with the people who took exception to your first sentence about "many Muslim leaders".)

X, it seems as if you are hinting at a commonly expressed belief that all the "monotheistic religions" can be lumped together as inherently "fundamentalist" and "violent". (Of course, that is without being corrected by the enlightened people such as yourself.)

Do you think we Christians in this comment section are "violent" or "fundamentalists"?

What are you trying to say?

J said...

I will need to see if any "evangelical leaders" have bothered to carefully define the "heresy of Christian nationalism" that they are denouncing. After all, guilt by association works better when it is a vague stain and stigma.

X, I see that you directly, and word for word, copied and pasted several things from here without linking to it:

https://saynotochristiannationalism.org/

The above letter is quoted quite in a bit in this article.

Ecumenical News: Hundreds of US evangelical leaders rebuke 'heresy of Christian Nationalism'

Peter Kenny |Thursday, February 25 2021

https://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/hundreds-of-us-evangelical-leaders-rebuke-heresy-of-christian-nationalism/60839.htm

Quoted directly in this article just as X copied and pasted it:

"Just as many Muslim leaders have felt the need to denounce distorted, violent versions of their faith, we feel the urgent need to denounce this violent mutation of our faith. What we saw manifest itself in the insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, 2021, is a threat to our democracy, but it is also a threat to orthodox Christian faith," they said.

They said the word "Christian" means "Christ-like."

"As leaders in the Church, we do not agree on everything, but we can agree on this -- Christians should live in a way that honors Jesus, and reminds the world of Him."

Anonymous said...

"Except for figuratively, with cancel culture, and who is controlling that? Not Christians."...."Your side is winning the culture wars, X. Winning and whining have to stop going together at some point.

10:06 AM"

***Good on ya, J, for spelling it out so succinctly, because what others are noticing too.***

Two-faced X-- claims to be a Christian but behaves this way? -- full of guilt? (the reason for the blame and shame tactics), but also full of gloat (the use against others for blame and shame casting)?

Feet to the fire..........you need to repent if you are truly a Christian. Your side is winning, X, as pointed out, and it is God-appointed (for such a time as this), but you seek to cram it down collective throats of Christians, as though you are the arbiter. And you shame others, while you pronounce your righteousness in these matters at the same time lending your support to those who have evil in mind, and racing to get that evil done yesterday. Guess what? You're not righteous and you're not arbiter, either. Is this not the height of pride what you display on this blog? You are at the very least a Job's friend, or worse, actually not a believer but claims to be.
And it really does appear you want to lump extremists (but your definition) all into one extreme pile. Where is the Spirit's discernment in that thinking and speaking? Are you lacking much there X, in all the hubris? How can you go there?

Are you bitter?

Anonymous said...

Texas cold snap fuels spike in power prices

The wholesale electricity prices in Texas are soaring as the cold snap drastically reduced the state’s power generating capacity. On Monday, spot electricity prices at the West hub surpassed the grid’s $9,000 per megawatt-hour cap, a staggering increase from the average price of $25 per megawatt-hour.
The surge is equivalent to the cost of charging a Tesla going up from around $18 to $900.
The Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), the nonprofit organization that operates the state’s power grid, attributed the price hike to a surge in electricity demand and many power generators going offline due to the extreme winter weather.
“We are dealing with higher-than-normal generation outages due to frozen wind turbines and limited natural gas supplies available to generating units,” ERCOT said in a statement.
Natural gas-fired power generation is the state’s leading source of power, with more than 45 percent share. Wind power generation contributes around 25 percent of Texas electricity, surpassing coal-fired generation last year for the first time ever.
Texas also cannot import power from other states because it has its own independent power grid. This grid is not connected to the Eastern Interconnection and Western Interconnection grids covering the rest of the country.
Texas officials are blaming the state’s overreliance on renewable energy for the rolling outages. Republican Rep. Dan Crenshaw tweeted on Tuesday: “The reason for blackouts is complex, but in summary: Texas took too many lessons from [California], over-subsidized renewables, & pushed out baseload energy like natural gas.”
In an interview with Houston’s ABC-13 on Tuesday, Republican Gov. Greg Abbott said that the blackouts were due to power generators freezing up, which incapacitated the state’s ability to generate enough power. On top of that, he added, the natural gas flowing into those power generators froze up too. But later that day, Abbott offered a different explanation for the blackouts. “Our wind and solar got shut down, and they are collectively 10 percent of our power grid, and that thrust Texas into a situation where it was lacking power in a statewide basis,” Abbott said during Sean Hannity’s program on Fox News. “As a result, it shows fossil fuel is necessary for the state of Texas,” he continued.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-02-26-texas-cold-snap-spike-power-prices.html

J said...

The words "Christian nationalism" seem to be everywhere suddenly. A bunch of people must have gotten the same memo for the same talking point all at the same time. Now X thinks he needs to enlighten those of us who didn't get the memo yet. But he's going to act like he's the one who wrote the memo.

All my life I've heard it called "religious right" or "values voters" or "evangelicals". Sometimes I've seen articles about Dominionism. X was the first person I knew who made a big deal about something called "Christian Nationalism".

Now I see it is the new bandwagon.

And I'm still waiting to find a careful definition of it. Please don't provide a Wikipedia link, either. Something so grievously evil, so much so to denounce it as a heresy, needs more than a Wikipedia link.

RayB said...


Dr. "Rachel" Richard Levine’s Imminent Confirmation Proves Transgenderism Is America’s New State Religion

From the article linked below:

"During his confirmation hearing on Thursday in front of the Senate health committee, Levine refused to condemn the practice of giving sex changes to children. When pressed by Senator Rand Paul, Levine wouldn’t even answer, providing a robotic response that made his real sentiments obvious."

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Rachel+levine%27s+name+as+a+man&t=brave&ia=web

NOTE: These people are coming after CHILDREN. What about expressing your "love" for the children by standing up in order to protect them from these evil people?
As Sen. Paul noted in his remarks to Dr. Levine, Britain now has "transgender" programs that currently include children as young as THREE YEARS OLD. Dr. Levine refused to comment on Britain's policy.

If you don't think that these people are evil and dangerous, there is something seriously wrong with you.

Anonymous said...

To J,

Regarding Christian nationalism, this link might provide some insights with the direction this is taking.

https://www.cfr.org/conference-calls/rise-christian-nationalism

Anonymous said...

Christian Nationalist are an obstacle to the globalist agenda. They seek to eradicate biblical christianity from the earth. The reason for the coup against Trump is because the satanic Catholics, Jews, secularist, New Agers, communists and Freemasons hate our God, and His Son. The reason for the complete insanity of the progressive left, is because their god is perverted, and there is no light in him at all. Therefore we can expect only insanity going forward. There can be no boundaries in a global secular society, gender, geographical, moral etc. There can only be the ascended little gods, who do what they will to do. That's the whole of their law, which of course creates complete lawlessness. Right now we are in the midst of the conquering being carried out by the rider on the white horse, who was given a corona. No amount of debate, discussion, or voting will change anything. They have Dominion over the votes now. Prayer and witness are our best tools. Warn those in the dark. Christ will return soon. He will shatter the New Order of the Ages with a rod of iron. Then the whole earth will show forth the glory of God!

Anonymous said...

THEY ARE COMING FOR YOUR CHILDREN

Your Kids Would Be Better Off Feral Than Going To Schools That Make Them Anti-American Racists

State-sponsored instruction that makes your child a dogmatic racist relativist is not worth any benefit you feel schools give in return. Not a single one. Being raised by wildlife would be better for your child than this.

February 25, 2021
By Joy Pullmann
The Federalist

To obtain or keep teaching licenses, Illinois now requires all K-12 teachers to indoctrinate their students in critical race theory, destructive lies about sex and gender, and other leftist mind poison. The rules clearly communicate that in Illinois public schools are no longer places to learn, but places children will be lied to, manipulated, and warehoused as wards of a corrupt and malevolent state. And this kind of schooling is spreading nationwide.

Every decent parent, family, and church should refuse to allow this kind of instruction to be inflicted upon the children in their care, and assume personal responsibility for securing their genuine education outside such anti-public schools. Those who do not are abdicating their sacred duty to teach their children to love and know the truth.

The new Illinois rules require teachers to demonstrate that they “embrace and encourage progressive viewpoints and perspectives.” It clearly specifies that these include incorporating into all their teaching and curricula neo-Marxist falsehoods about race and sex, and actively discriminate based on religion, viewpoint, and race.

The rules require teachers to:

·Directly oppose and undermine the concept of objective truth:


“Understand and value… that there is not one ‘correct’ way of doing or understanding something, and that what is seen as ‘correct’ is most often based on our lived experiences.” This is an exercise in forcing people to affirm two contradictory things, as the rest of the requirements are extremely dogmatic, not open to any other “way of doing or understanding something.”


·Treat themselves and students as a determined product of their race, sex, and sexual behavior:


“Recognize how their identity (race/ethnicity, national origin, language, sex and gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, physical/developmental/emotional ability, socioeconomic class, religion, etc.) affects their perspectives and beliefs about pedagogy and students.”


·Believe and preach cultural Marxist identity politics:


“Assess how their biases and perceptions affect their teaching practice and how they access tools to mitigate their own behavior (racism, sexism, homophobia, unearned privilege, Eurocentrism, etc.).”


·Agree the United States is systemically racist:


“understand that there are systems in our society that create and reinforce inequities, thereby creating oppressive conditions” and “work actively against these systems.”


·Support different behavior standards based on race:


“Know and understand how a system of inequity creates rules regarding student punishment that negatively impacts students of color.”


·Engage in and support cultural Marxist activism:


“Be aware of the effects of power and privilege and the need for social advocacy and social action to better empower diverse students and communities.”


·Push students into leftist activism:


“support and create opportunities for student advocacy and representation in the content and classroom” and “Create a risk-taking space that promotes student activism and advocacy.”


·Introduce and promote adult sex behaviors and gender identity confusion:

“Implement and integrate the wide spectrum and fluidity of identities in the curriculum.”


·No joke:


Illinois’s state school board and legislature also deleted requirements that teachers prove they have learned any traditional curricular content or subject-matter knowledge.
Social agitation uber alles.

Anonymous said...

“What’s more,” notes Stanley Kurtz, “the Illinois experience is about to go national." A coalition of leftists is working together to make rules like Illinois’s operate in every state under the guise of “civics,” as Kurtz documents in depth. They intend to co-opt and subvert the grassroots recognition in America that education institutions use public resources to teach the next generation to hate the country that gives them more than every other country in the world does.

The goal is to use the label “civics” to make people think the plan is teaching children to be more patriotic and literate about history, while accomplishing precisely the opposite: doubling down on young Americans’ well-documented anti-American animus undergirded by their historical ignorance.

Obviously this transformation is occurring as majorities of American children have endured frequently disrupted and lower-quality education than usual nearly an entire school year, with half completely online and another quarter partially online now. It is clear that school “as normal” will not soon return even though many schools’ “safety” rules are contrary to evidence and the seasonal flu is truly a higher risk to children than COVID.

If your child is one of the three-quarters “doing school online,” you can do it better yourself. If your child is being taught lies instead of truth in school, you can definitely do it better yourself. Just read good books and talk about them.

Schools’ increasingly open function as indoctrination factories and massive ineptitude at effective and reliable instruction — which long predates COVID — mean it is past time for parents to stop with the wishful thinking and get their kids something better before it’s too late. Community organizations, primarily churches, must come to their aid.

State-sponsored instruction that makes your child a dogmatic, racist relativist is not worth any benefit you feel schools give in return. Not a single one. Being raised by wolves and bears would be better for your child than this. Thankfully, unlike the therians or human pups your children could meet under instruction like this, you realize you are not a wolf or bear, so you can do a lot better than raising Mowgli.

Truly, it would be better for children to be feral in their backyards than manipulated with false COVID fears and dangerous lies about how racist they are for being born white. It would be even better for a child to have a library card and a large supply of craft materials than to attend this kind of “school.” It would be ideal for children to have truly excellent schools to attend instead, but one step at a time, okay? First, stop the bleeding.

It’s easy to compete with stupid and evil. Just don’t be stupid or evil. This is one key reason homeschool kids whose parents don’t have a teaching degree do better than public-school peers whose teachers do: eating grass is better than eating poison, and any person who isn’t indoctrinated can see that.

Instruction of the kind Illinois has committed itself to is a code red for people to get children out of such schools by any moral means possible. It’s not as hard as you think. Remember: Even Baloo can do better than this. So can you.

Now that teacher licenses are hinged not on curricular competence but the affirmation of false political creeds, a loving parent is clearly better than a teaching college-certified critical race zombie. Many parents who thought they could never homeschool are finding out that even doing it while also working from home is better than trying to substitute teach the garbage local public schools are calling “online instruction.”

Anonymous said...

Many parents are finding that the little education “pods” they put together are actually a tiny private school that almost any church or community organization could host, and are accessible at very affordable costs, especially if parents’ mortgage bill is freed from the upcharge of living in a “good” school district gone woke and others like grandparents pitch in on tuition.

It is churches, parents’, and charities’ moral duty to step up to the plate, and not only in Illinois. American public schools are not much better than this across the board, except for a few outliers, and they are likely to get a lot worse under a Biden administration committed to accelerating critical race theory, forcing boys and girls to shower and sleep overnight together, imposing different school rules for different races, and keeping schools closed as long as possible.

The time has come for people who love their country to begin building and investing in parallel private social institutions to replace the institutions the left has corrupted beyond restoration. The people who control public schools, public health, our energy grids, you name it have proven they are willing to teach the next generation the greatest country in the world needs to be burned down and looted and uphold COVID superstitions rather than perform basic safety checks on crucial energy infrastructure.

It’s time for all people possible to divest from these corrupt institutions and invest their resources — time, children, money, buildings, whatever you’ve got — in sound ones, for the sake of the common good for the country we love. The Titanic is hitting an iceberg, and it’s going to need a cultural Cajun Navy to set sail and haul up as many stranded people as possible.

I’ve got my little boat — where’s yours?

(Joy Pullmann is executive editor of The Federalist, a happy wife, and the mother of six children. Sign up here to get early access to her next book, "How To Control The Internet So It Doesn’t Control You." Her bestselling ebook is "Classic Books for Young Children." A Hillsdale College honors graduate, @JoyPullmann is also the author of "The Education Invasion: How Common Core Fights Parents for Control of American Kids," from Encounter Books.)

https://thefederalist.com/2021/02/25/your-kids-would-be-better-off-feral-than-going-to-sch)ols-that-make-them-anti-american-racists

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Anonymous said...

Corrected Link

https://thefederalist.com/2021/02/25/your-kids-would-be-better-off-feral-than-going-to-schools-that-make-them-anti-american-racists

Anonymous said...

On the secular Marxist rebuild

www.tedmontgomery.com

Feb. 27, 2021

Anonymous said...

If you believe these men are Christians and/or "patriots" you might be a Dominionist and/or Christian Nationalist.

Maga Insurrectionists pray in Capitol Building

https://youtu.be/270F8s5TEKY?t=473


All politics involves assigning, describing and defining labels. The right has been "professionally" doing this for years defining "liberals" and "Democrats" with all sorts of pejorative labels. RayB posts all sorts of labels on this forum that don't stick. The left is finally catching up with "labels" that can stick and find resonance with even center-right Conservative Christian political moderates like me with a term like "Christian Nationalism" describing Maga Insurrectionists and including negative connotations about their political ideology including, but not limited to nativism, white supremacy, authoritarian control and militarism. It is a label as ethnic and political as it is religious.

As far as more objectively defining the actual labels.

Christian Nationalism is a broader and older term. Here's Wikipedia's discussion about it. To me, it's more a political ideology and identity politics than theology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_nationalism#United_States

Dominion theology (also known as dominionism) grew out of Christian Nationalism beginning in the 1970's. It is political ideologies that seek to institute a nation governed by Christians based on their understandings of biblical law. Extents of rule and ways of achieving governing authority are varied. For example, dominion theology can include theonomy; but, does not necessarily involve advocating Mosaic law as the basis of government. The label is applied primarily toward groups of Christians in the United States practiced or adopted primarily by independent (ungoverned) charismatic (Word-Faith Charismania) & pentecostal churches and the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).

Kingdom Now theology is a branch of dominion theology which has had a following within Pentecostalism. Kingdom Now theology states that although Satan has been in control of the world since the Fall, God is looking for people who will help him take back dominion. Those who yield themselves to the authority of God's apostles and prophets will take control of the kingdoms of this world, being defined as all social institutions, the "kingdom" of education, the "kingdom" of science, the "kingdom" of the arts, etc. False Teacher and heretic, C. Peter Wagner, the founder of the New Apostolic Reformation, writes: "The practical theology that best builds a foundation under social transformation is dominion theology, sometimes called 'Kingdom Now' or 'Seven Mountain Mandate'

Kingdom Now theology is influenced by the Latter Rain movement, and critics have connected it to the New Apostolic Reformation, "Spiritual Warfare Christianity," and Fivefold ministry thinking.

These heretical movements, tragically, are the face of Christianity in the US and it is leading untold millions of people into a different gospel – and a different gospel does not save. They are lead by false teachers or 'clouds without water'.

"These are the men who are hidden reefs in your love feasts when they feast with you without fear, caring for themselves; clouds without water, carried along by winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, uprooted;" Jude 12

x



Anonymous said...



X, Your indefensible defense of openly godless policy got your blessing and your vote.
What label fits you?



Kingdom now/Dominionist belief (there is definitely tares among the wheat as Jesus described it) is wrong on so many levels yet you say nary a word against Biden's religiosity that informs his governing policies and you endorsed him?

Anonymous said...

j

I hope I covered your question

J said: "I agree with almost everything you said except for the part I bolded, which was not clear. I will denounce it as soon as you explain what you mean by "this violent heretical mutation of our faith"."

but I'll summarize maybe???

Any theology or false teacher advocating or promoting any Theological teaching supporting political hatred, violence, Dominionism, white supremacy, Christian Nationalism, Maga political ideology.

These would include persons like Franklin Graham, Rick Wiles, Bill Johnson, Kris Vallotin, etc.

As far as Paul picking out the part about Muslims and misinterpreting that as demanding or requiring an apology from 1.9 Billion Muslims worldwide, I ask, where is Franklin Graham or even Trumps apology for January 6th? If we are "right" and they are "wrong" why would 'they' behave any better than us Christians?

There has been very little Islamic violence on Americans since 9/11 yet our government has spent untold billions on homeland security which necessitates constant reinforcement of Islamaphobic troupes. Few are aware it was large Muslims that were killed by ISIS and Daesh was largely defeated by Muslims. Besides, We are all much more likely to be killed right now by a right-wing extremist than a Muslim, yet, extreme Islamaphobia persists.

In summary, the slogan “Make America great again” is a call for a restoration to an idealized and glorified past when the political, social, and religious order served a singular identity to the exclusion of others. According to right-wing populists, wrongheaded multiculturalism, political correctness, identity politics, refugees, illegal immigration, and burdensome regulations all weaken America, as do bad trade practices and trade deals with Mexico, China, Japan, and Europe. Noticeably, all these grievances point away from the country’s elite, which has plundered the United States, ravaged the earth of its resources, poisoned the water and ground, conducted endless interventionist wars, and squandered the money of hardworking people across this great land.

Before Y'AllQueda jump down my throat. Defending Muslims does not mean avoiding criticism of Muslims or Islam. I am simply pointing out that the political debate about Muslims has nothing to do with the religion, theology, or history of 1.6 billion people. The responsibility to counter racism, Islamophobia and bigotry falls on everyone who desires a fair, just, and inclusive society rooted in the defense of our constitutional rights and the promotion of racial, religious, and cultural diversity. Satan is our enemy, not non-secular or other Americans.

x


Anonymous said...

6:20 -

Of the choices I had, Biden, to me, is a far more experienced, measured and trusted political leader than Trump.

Neither Biden nor Trump are my religious leaders.

Neither side was ever doing anything about abortion.

The marketing and promotion of Trump as a religious leader rang hollow to me.

Of the 500,000 Americans that have died from Covid, I hold Trump, his administration, republican Govenors and the millions of Covid deniers directly responsible for at least 250,000 of those deaths due to deliberate deception, incompetence and inaction. Denial and the false theology of "the Power of Positive Thinking" did not serve America well.

I don't love either party and very much hope and pray for the formation of a Center-Right Christian party. Imagine a Christian party cutting ties with all the White Christian Nationalism and populism of Trumpism that might-could unite both White and Black Christians alike into a single respectful & Jesus-like political voice which, out of political necessity, reign in the excesses on the far left AND far right.

Urban areas- the Democrats would have to compete with a less liberal 3rd party Bible -believing Christian Candidate

Rural areas- the Republican would have to compete with a truly compassionate conservative 3rd Party bible-believing Christian Candidate

I'm sure they wouldn't be perfect either. Organizations of men rarely are. But I can dream.

x






Anonymous said...

"the defense of our constitutional rights?"

How do you defend a document that all levels of government have been wiping their ass with for a long time?

Anonymous said...

Awaken With JP. YouTube

Biden's Town Hall Disaster

X said Biden has "political savy" LOL

Anonymous said...

J said: "And I'm still waiting to find a careful definition of it. Please don't provide a Wikipedia link, either. Something so grievously evil, so much so to denounce it as a heresy, needs more than a Wikipedia link."

and then I gave Wikipedia links....sorry.

If you really want to go down the rabbit hole, perhaps Justin Peter's seminar, Clouds Without Water would be a start.

It's not political -- just theology

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=justin+peters+clouds+without+water


If you deny the sufficiency of Scripture and put faith in false-Prophets, Justin Peters does a 4 hour review of 2020-Jan 2021 called: "2020 The Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Year For The Prophets"

https://youtu.be/bewNWkuWuzI

*Kenneth Copeland took in donations totaling over $300 million in 2020 so this is not fringe Christianity anymore.

x

Anonymous said...

To the snowflake at 7:11pm --- Sorry if I triggered you.
x

Anonymous said...


"Before Y'AllQueda jump down my throat"


It is you, X, your brand of fake believers that sadly, are not fringe anymore along with the Copeland weirdos, etc, that speak Jesus but not in His Spirit because you cherry pick what He said, and by your compromises/deeds, do the opposite of His commands. You're the Pharisical type to persecute true Christians, and more concerning than harm and death by a Muslim.
Fake christians who pontificate as you do are the bane of the True Church of Jesus, but God will separate and sort, all in His time. You are disqualified for that task.

J said...

Anonymous 1:51 PM,

Thanks for the link to the CFR article. I read it all the way to the end, when somebody named Tom Walsh said something different than everybody else. He is the Chairman of the Universal Peace Federation. He is one of those ecumenical, one world religion types, so of course the CFR and the UN love him.

He said something about hoping that Biden could unite Americans under Catholic social teachings.

"Could Catholic social thought under the Biden administration kind of bring America together? So we're living in this post-secular environment where all the religions are trying to fill a gap or a vacuum that has been emptied out with perhaps an overreaching secularism. So these are just thoughts. So I really appreciate your presentation and maybe would ask you about that. Isn't this going to continue because we do need to find the foundation or basis for solidarity. We can say it's the Constitution. We have constitutional nationalism, but it's very rational and kind of unfeeling. And so people do want to bring their entire being into their life in the world and if they're Buddhist, or Muslim, or Christian, or Jew, there's aspects of that that fit in. And it's not all pathological, I guess is my point."

Anonymous said...

8:33PM -

I apologize if I interrupted your CPAC Golden Trump worship [that was manufactured in Mexico]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/27/golden-trump-statue-mexico-cpac

x

J said...

RayB 2:25 PM,

I think you must be right that "Christian Nationalism" must be one of the the latest naming and shaming games.

Anonymous said...

X 9:48 PM
You keep mischaracterizing me and so many like me, on purpose. It's the only way you can "justify" the gossipy innuendo and the nasty prejudice you wrongly hold against others who disagree with you. You intend to make people like me into something we are not and that is how I know you are as I described. Your lumping Christians into extremes, if not cut of your religious/political progressive cloth, tells me all I need to understand to recognize your motivation and why Biden's godless policies suit you.
I, and no one I know, worships President Trump. We voted for him, but never expected him to save people, only hoped for his help in the effort to turn this country back toward right and reason from his office. He was and is not a religious leader, not what I voted for him to be. But he was used by God to show America grace (God giving some space to repent) before completely going over the edge. The Biden finale (Obama extended--Obama's the one with a Messiah complex) is the fall over and down into the global pit of evil. You and your progressive "christianity" pushed us all off the cliff.

You're a fake to talk unity, totally disingenuous in endorsing every form of evil you voted for.
And not our judge.

So yes, the name and shame game continues here in the nasty unChrist-like posts of X, who is
no true friend of believers in Jesus.

Anonymous said...

correction: not a religious leader, that's not what I voted for him to be.

Anonymous said...

The Golden Calf of Donald J Trump: Can The Trump Crowd Be More Deluded? | Bible Prophecy Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z63IBTiLA6c&pbjreload=101

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

FASTING ON FRIDAYS. matt. 25:15 Jesus says his disciples would fast later when He was gone. Fasting is mentioned as a Jewish discipline several NT places incl. pharisee and publican.
RC deviated from original in many ways, and properly it is fasting on Wednesdays (mourning for the conspiracy against Christ) and Fridays (mourning for what He went through for us) NO animal product NO FISH WITH A BACKBONE (shellfish are okay) even on Fridays.

The Didache in AD 200s mentins this as already ancient custom. The Jews fasted on Mondays and thursdays, Christians were Jewish in most practice, kept these fasts but changed the days and focus. Ecumenical councils (NONE held in Rome but modern day Turkey aka Anatolia) made Wednesdays, Fridays and Holy Week essential fasts.

The pharisee bragged he fasted 3 x a week, so this was an excess the Jewish sources say they had adopted a 2 x a week fasting discipline, Mondays and Thursdays. The Christians were Jewish in practice and kept this, but changed the days and focus.

QUESTION: what kind of churches fulfill this prophecy Mal. 1:11?

"For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the Lord of hosts."

only liturgical churches w a claimed or actual apostolic lineage. Not baptist and suchlike.

Prayers for the dead - Paul prays for Onesiphous, context shows he is daed separate mention from family, same format as Macabees.

The sign of the Cross referencing Christ's victory by deatha nd Resurrection, goes back before Tertullian, who refers to it as established practice.

Easter Sunday. - CHRIST ROSE ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK, WHICH IS SUNDAY, IDIOT! Easter a western term, Pascha or Passover, first celebrated with the Jews then differentiated as Resurrection of Christ was after Passover. The whole Christianity thing centers on Christ's Resurrection without that, no Christianity.

No sabbath switch just confusion because sunday was declared work free first half of day so Christians in civil service and military could more easily attend church. Sunday is the day Christ rose from the dead, three calendar days not three 24 hour days.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_wwUgEei14

Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement (2007) - Documentary (SWESUB)

though this focuses on the rothschilds, there were other players in this and the Rothschilds learned their tricks frm the House of Baring before them and the Templars whodid similar things.l

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=frankist+cult+rabbi+antelmann+rothschilds several videos deal with the frankist heresy in judaism, which was rejected by Judaism and some persecutions against regular Judaism was organized by Frankists. Rabbi Antelmann TO ELIMINATE THE OPIATE vol 1 introduces towards the end, Vol 2 entirely about this.

J said...

X,

My beliefs include two simple truths. Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world. Jesus taught us not to fight evil with evil.

That doesn't mean that normal human social thought and behavior must now be pathologized -- but only when exhibited by white American males.

Perhaps we could and should do better, as Christians, than to just be "normal". But we are sanctified by the Holy Spirit, not by bureaucrats and technocrats and the chattering classes who echo their talking points.

Our religious leaders should have their priorities straight; but they need to be getting those priorities from the Bible read prayerfully. Religious leaders should not be getting their talking points from academics, technocrats, bureaucrats and the chattering classes.

Yes, Dominionists do exist; so do many other kinds of apostates. We were warned there would be wolves in sheeps clothing. We were warned there would be tares among the wheat.

No careful theological consideration has been given to justify the spectacle of so many purported Christian leaders jumping on the bandwagon of denouncing "Christian Nationalism". The term "Christian Nationalism" is purposely vague and broad and includes every kind of guilt by association.

J said...

X,

One more point to ponder. God destroyed the Tower of Babel.

J said...

Genesis 11 King James Version

11 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.

4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.

6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

J said...

A picture showing a famous painting of the Tower of Babel, and the EU Parliament Building, side by side.

http://restoringpangea.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/eu-parliament-building-tower-of-babel-brueghel.jpg

J said...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/20/europe/global-reaction-joe-biden-inauguration-intl/index.html

"Once again, after four long years, Europe has a friend in the White House," European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said on Wednesday, leaving no uncertainty about her verdict on Trump's relationship with the bloc.

"This new dawn in America is the moment we've been waiting for so long. Europe is ready for a new start with our oldest and most trusted partner," she said in the European Parliament in Brussels, Belgium.

Von der Leyen said Biden's inauguration would "be a message of healing for a deeply divided nation and it will be a message of hope for a world that is waiting for the US to be back in the circle of like-minded states."

J said...

Ursula von der Leyen's message to Davos Agenda: Full transcript

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/01/ursula-von-der-leyen-european-commission-davos-agenda/

"And this year, the World Economic Forum is once again asking the right questions with your initiative, Klaus, ‘The Great Reset'. We must learn from this crisis. We have to change the way we live and do business, to be able to keep what we value and hold dear".

J said...

X,

In conclusion, CPAC may have a golden (actually fiberglass) Trump statue, but the EU has an actual Tower of Babel in Brussels.

Trump is no longer the POTUS; Biden is.

Biden is aligned with the EU and its Tower of Babel.

Also, you said you own businesses. What will happen to your businesses in the Great Reset?

Or were you too busy worrying about Trump supporters to focus on that?

Don't worry; maybe BLM and Antifa will destroy your small businesses first, and then you won't need to worry about the Great Reset.

RayB said...

"X" has been very outspoken against the "violence" inspired by Trump, along with his evil "insurrectionists," the "Christian Nationalists," and the "Dominionists," etc. At the same time, "X" has ignored the violence of ANTIFA & BLM and has gone to great lengths in defending ANTIFA/BLM's Michael Reinoehl, who, in cold blood, murdered an innocent Trump supporter as he walked down a Portland street.

What "X" has NOT been outspoken about is this ...

NY Governor Andrew Cuomo, via his COVID policies, actually caused the death of thousands of people in NY nursing home facilities, then lied in order to cover up his nefarious policies. While thousands died as a direct result of Cuomo's executive orders, Gov. Cuomo received an Emmy Award for the "wonderful manner" in which he conducted his "informative," daily news briefings.

Briefly, here is what happened:

Because of the COVID "crisis," Gov. Cuomo was granted extensive executive powers. Cuomo abused these powers by FORCING nursing homes to accept COVID hospital outpatients. The nursing homes were FORBIDDEN, by Cuomo's executive order, to conduct COVID tests upon these incoming patients. As a result, thousands of nursing home patients needlessly contracted the virus and died. Cuomo then responded by LYING to the FBI, and the news media, by purposely providing fraudulent statistical information in order to reflect a false REDUCTION of the amount of nursing home deaths by 50%, or, over 8,000 people.

Ever the politician, Cuomo's falsified statistics put the State of New York nursing home COVID death related statistics in line with other states across the country, when in fact, NY's was far worse.

Why the silence on Cuomo and his crimes, "X" ?? Too busy to comment on such trivialities?

Anonymous said...

Actually, J, the Tower of Babel is being built in Washington D.C., yes that city built on seven hills, much of it's center being designed on Ancient Rome.

Amazon Will Build Tower of Babel at Washington DC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77jnMUysAoQ

J said...

Anonymous 3:12 PM,

It's supposed to be a double helix design. It does resemble the Tower of Babel, though.

It's a video by Brother James Key, the Trump Antichrist guy.

Brother James Key's narrative is very unscriptural; where to begin?

J said...

Regarding the city of seven hills...

To the Apostle John's first century AD audience -- the seven churches of Asia Minor -- Rome was known as the city on seven hills.

There are actually lots of cities of the world that can claim to be built on seven hills. A very partial list can include:

Albany, New York
Cincinatti, Ohio
Providence, Rhode Island
Richmond, Virginia
Saint Paul, Minnesota
San Francisco, California
Seattle, Washington
Mecca, Saudi Arabia
Athens, Greece
Brussels, Belgium
Istanbul, Turkey
Moscow, Russia
Rome, Italy
Brisbane, Australia

Anonymous said...

Let us not forget MCE's once-a-week Tower of Babble!

Anonymous said...

President Trump lives rent free in the head of poster "x".

Hatin' on Christians is his bag or he would not be so divisive..he is very divisive.
And defending the indefensible is not a godly trait.

Anonymous said...

J,

Thanks for your several posts above.
You were on a roll.

Anonymous said...

RayB

Cuomo related excess nursing home deaths 8,000 (according to you) vs Trump 500,000+ national Covid deaths and counting really isn't comparable. You are complaining about the color paint they used in the titantic's bathrooms.

First, I'm fine with an investigation and the exposure and even punishing of wrongdoing by anyone.

Second, the "covering up" of death counts of Nursing Home residents that died elsewhere doesn't, in itself, kill people whereas Trump's Covid virus denial certainly did. That said, I'm not really that sorry that you and your king weren't permitted to gaslight everyone last fall scapegoating Cuomo for what, in hindsight, was an error in policy and practice.

Third, it is clear that the States hit early and hard had Governments ill-prepared and ill-informed to handle what was actually a NATIONAL health crisis. States have some pandemic planning and heath administration they can lean into for support and information but no state has anything comparable to the federal apparatus, such as the CDC and DHHS. The federal government clearly failed to inform and coordinate any semblance of a proper pandemic emergency response despite having several months notice of the severity of the problem. The "lost-month" is WORSE than hindsight error. Cuomo HAD to do something about hospital beds, nursing homes and the elderly whereas Trump did not HAVE TO sit on his hands.

Despite Trump telling Bob Woodward on Feb 7th he already was aware Covid was airborne and "more deadly than even your strenuous flus, it wasn't until March 2 that Cuomo gave his first Coronovirus briefing regarding covid testing. By March 8th New York had 105 confirmed cases. On March 12th Cuomo is shutting down gatherings. March 15 Cuomo is calling on Trump for help. New York went from 4 Deaths on March 15th to 1,004 deaths on April 14th (the peak of deaths on the spring curve). Makeshift field hospitals plans were commenced and medical ships were being arranged to handle what for all the Governor knew, could be 10,000 deaths a day by May 15th. The controversial order regarding placement of nursing home patients was dated March 25th, the same day they had 117 deaths and 7,413 New confirmed cases. The lack of PPE further complicated matters. Hospitals were reaching capacities and space was needed to be made and priorities taken. There were even discussions over who would get the limited number of ventilators available. This was a no-win situation and no one knew putting some people back into nursing homes was any less safe than having them dying in the hallways of hospitals (or on the streets out front).

Meanwhile, to name just one dumb thing done by the feds last spring, it was't until April 6th that the federal government directed that cruise ships travelers from infected ships, that were all inexplicably permitted to continue well into March, were "recommended" to not travel on commercial flights or share other transportation with non-cruise guests as they attempted to return home.

There problems everywhere. I don't blame Trump for every single covid death throughout the country. No matter what Trump or anyone did, American's weren't universally capable of responsible social distancing and wearing masks even if Trump didn't bury his head in the sand and begged American's to comply. There was only so much our government could do. We are FORTUNATE this virus is not as deadly as it could have been. Perhaps if we do get a more deadly one down the road, we will be better prepared and be able to nip it in the bud like so many other countries were able to do. We'll see.

x







Anonymous said...

Yet another x post...DOA.


At least he is consistent.

Anonymous said...

Texans Are Realizing Something is Odd About the Snow

It doesn't melt when you hold a lighter up to it. Is it fake???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T61lre0wYVc

Anonymous said...

I believe I was right about William Penn.

Penn did not say.

"If thou wouldst rule well, thou must rule for God, and to do that, thou must be ruled by him....Those who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants."

It is, at best, a conflation of the following two quotes by Penn.

First, in Penn's "Frame of Government" (1682): "I know what is said by the several admirers of monarchy, aristocracy and democracy, which are the rule of one, a few, and many, and are the three common ideas of government, when men discourse on the subject. But I chose to solve the controversy with this small distinction, and it belongs to all three: Any government is free to the people under it (whatever be the frame) where the law rules, and the people are a party to those laws, and more than this is tyranny, oligarchy, or confusion." (from Wikiquote)

Second, Penn's July 2, 1698 letter to the Czar of Muscovy (Russia's Peter the Great)

"It was a profound respect, and not a vain curiosity, great Czar, which brought me twice to wait upon thee. My desire was, and is, that as God Almighty has distinguished thee above Bo many millions of thy fellow creatures, so thou mayest distinguish thyself above them by an extraordinary zeal for piety and charity, which are the two legs the Christian religion stands upon; and where they are wanting or defective, it must needs fall in the streets to the scorn and triumph of the heathen. May thy example show thee to be as good as great, that thou mayst bear His imago by whom kings reign and princes decree justice, which, without goodness," power itself can never do. Optimus was, of old, preferred to Maximus among heathen princes, much more thou shouldst be among Christian emperors. If thou wouldst rule well, thou must rule for God; and to do that, thou must be ruled by him who has given to kings his grace to command themselves and their subjects, and to the people the grace to obey God and their kings. Know, great Czar, and take it with thee, as one part of the collection of knowledge thou art-making in this unexampled travel, that 'tis in this kingdom of England that God has visited and touched the hearts of a people, above forty years ago, by the holy light and grace of his Son and our Saviour Jesus Christ. By which their minds have been turned from false worship and evil living to worship God, who is a Spirit, in and by his own Spirit, and be led by it in their conversation, that they may bring forth the fruits of it among men to his praise that has called them. They are an inward and retired people, that dare not conform themselves to vain inventions and fashions of the world, either in religious or civil conversation, but live and act as believing that God seeth them in all they do, and will judge them according to what they do. They teach that men must be holy, or they cannot be happy—that they should be few in words, peaceable in life, suffer wrongs, love enemies, deny themselves—without which, faith is false, worship formality, and religion hypocrisy. Yet they are an industrious people in their generation, and though against superfluity, yet lovers of ingenuity. It was in their name five of us came to salute thee, who wish thou mayst have an eye to this Divine principle of life and light in the soul, a measure of which is given to thee and all men to profit with. That by it piety, wisdom, and charity may dwell with thee, and thou mayst be qualified to serve the mighty God suitable to the great opportunities he hath put into thy hands, so prays a little man, by thy great friend and well-wisher". https://tinyurl.com/m5drnhpt

I could still be wrong. Not every letter is online and it could be mistranslated from German.

x

Anonymous said...

10:40 PM,

WTF? And here's another fake snow video...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=maVtw5KdrJ8

But note in both of these that you don't go with them outside and grab into a snowbank. In one the woman leaves and comes back claiming it's snow. In the other the guy goes out of the room and in the relative dark gets what he SAYS is snow.

Craig:

Please let us know if this is a Texas-sized snowjob!

Anonymous said...

I meant to say in the other the guy reaches out of the room to a pile of stuff that's in relative darkness so you don't know if it's fully exposed to the elements outside or a porch or what.

Point is:

Let's see them go outside in broad daylight and do this with a obviously legit snow source!

Anonymous said...


White nationalists are once again using Christian symbols to spread hate

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/02/28/white-nationalists-use-christian-symbols-send-messages-racists/4457702001/

Anonymous said...

Before moving to Texas, I grew up in upstate New York (where I was born and raised).

All I know is that 'white stuff' outside last week here in the Houston, Texas area did not look or feel like any real SNOW that I've ever seen!!!

(Also, children were complaining that they couldn't make snowballs with it.)

Just sayin . . .

Anonymous said...

10:40 PM,

My bad! I had stopped watching the video that you posted after he couldn't get the supposed snow to melt.

But at 1:00 minute mark a woman does it outside in broad daylight!

Is NO ONE there having that sh*t analyzed?

Maybe Texan and Analytical Lab Owner Mike Adams might!

Anonymous said...

5:18 pm last week said:

"Just what President Trump was accomplishing and why minorities were coming out in droves to vote for him, providing for all the opportunity, using God-given freedoms under our Constitution, that could never, ever, happen in the one size fits all governing of leftists who are bent on using force and oppressive limits against everyone."

Minorities didn't come out "in droves" to vote for Trump:

In polling done by Fabrizio, Lee and Associates (Trump's own republican polling firm), that analyzed just the 10 battleground states determined that:

Racially, Trump suffered his greatest erosion with White voters, particularly White Men (losing 8% in the 5 of 10 States that Flipped and 4% in the battleground states he held). He did have double digit gains with Hispanics in both
groups, going from 32% to 36% (while Biden got 4% less than Clinton so a +10% in flipped state and +12% Hispanic Gains in states Trump held. Trumps performance among Blacks in these 10 states was virtually the same as 2016, more votes, but the percentages remained the same with about 90% of black voters picking Biden.

The most dramitic racial swing result -- White college-educated

In the 5 of 10 states that flipped saw it go from:

From 52% Trump - 43% Clinton to... 47% Trump - 52% Biden (+14% for Biden)



In the 5 of 10 battleground states Trump held:

From 58% Trump - 37% Clinton to... 51% Trump - 48% Biden (+18% for Biden)

In the flipped states Trump even lost 6% of White non-college graduates from 2016 to 2020.


Interesting analysis: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000177-6046-de2d-a57f-7a6e8c950000

x

Anonymous said...

10:40 PM,

Okay, here we go (we should've checked this first, lol)...


Burning snow, what is really happening?

by Ahmad Bajjey
Sunday, February 2nd 2014

What is really happening in these viral videos of burning snow? Nothing sinister at all.

This is a myth that scientists and more recently meteorologists have tried to melt away for years.

If you have not seen the videos, a person holds some snow while holding a lighter to it and you watch as now water drips off the snow and the it slowly turns black.

Many people say it's burning, but this is not at all what is happening.

It all comes from the lighter.

The butane or lighter fluid in the lighter (or solid fuel on the end of a match) gives off soot that collects on the snowball and creates the black film on the surface.

You can even try this yourself, hold a lighter up to glass and watch the soot collect and turn the glass black.

If you hold the lighter further away from the snowball, the snow stays white and continues to melt which brings me to my next point.

This collection of chemicals in a large quantity in such a small area also can give off the pungent smell many people say they are experiencing.

Why does the snow look like it is not melting?

Well, it is melting.

The structure of the snow and the flakes actually, for lack of a better word, wicks away the water back into the snowball structure.

Try this, do this same test with an ice cube and watch it melt, you will see the liquid water.

Why? Because the ice cube is solid and the liquid has no where else to go.

Yes the ice will turn black, again that is the soot collecting.

Another process that may be melting the snow in many cases without visible signs is sublimation, a process of the water cycle where a solid goes directly to being a gas without going through the liquid phase first.

Sublimation requires a lot of heat, and with a hot flame in such close proximity to snow that is close to the freezing mark already, there is plenty of excess heat to go around.

It all comes down to this, there is nothing sinister happening here, just some basic science in an experiment that has been around for many, many years and has recently found its way back into the spotlight.

https://nbc25news.com/news/local/burning-snow-what-is-really-happening

Anonymous said...

Craig,

That's hilarious. The comments on youtube explain it fine. Y'all are used to very cold dry air that sucks up an evaporated snow immediately as you put that kind of heat on it.

Never eat the first snow though. All those nasty microbes, bacteria and fecal matter on the surface get mixed up into that first snow. Probably a wise tale?

I did hear one thing about Texas you might confirm. When you finally got warm again down there and the snow melted do the bugs, snakes and scorpions come out like crazy? Why? Is it because they haven't eaten in days or because the ground is frozen or just for sun? Is that a thing?

x

Anonymous said...

X, you nitpick only to major in the minors.

The quote spells out something important (whoever said it big deal) in that if someone is to rule well, they must rule for God (and actually be ruled by Him to carry that out). That is true.
So your tyrant Biden and the Commicrat party is ruling for God? Because supposedly that is why Biden was much preferable to Trump you claim (oh and that political savvy thing you claim too).

You make a big thing about sounding righteous, yet by your own practice, you chose anything and everything not righteous. There you go again, pontificating. Post a big dissertation yet you voted and defend the rule of your tyrant Biden who can never rule for God. Got any buyer's remorse yet?

You strain for a gnat and end up swallowing a camel just like Jesus said in Matthew 23:24.
What a game you play.
Jesus has your number..and so do we.




Anonymous said...

x likes to baffle with his "make it up as you go" b%#(*%^* !!!
Not a fact in sight.
When you become blinded straining for gnats, that is the result.
x's camel might be permanently stuck.

Anonymous said...

J at 4:01 PM,

Nonetheless it's clearly designed to, in your words, "look like", i.e., represent the Tower of Babel. Any argumentum ad hominem by you is irrelevant. Your added comments about James Key are simply fueled by your own prejudices ... how's your bowing down to one of the most unrepentant sinful men, Donald J. Trump, to ever walk the Earth going?

Anonymous said...

12:21 AM,

You should be banned and barred from this site. Your endless ramblings talking about bovine excrement and silly emoji, as well as your blog clogging, is far worse than anything X or even MCE has done here (it's obvious you're the same monkey-brained moron attacking her at 6:55 PM with your comment: "Let us not forget MCE's once-a-week Tower of Babble!".



I am sure I speak for the silent majority here when I say you are an immature, sad and bullying clown. Repent before it's too late.

J said...

Anonymous 3:19 AM,

Disagreeing with Brother James Key means I bow down to Trump? That type of thinking seems a little cult-like.

Trump is no longer POTUS.

Are you really going to hold your breath for the next four years, expecting that Trump will be re-elected in 2024, to fulfill the prophecy of the deadly wound to the head being healed?

You don't need Brother James Key to hate Trump that much. You could simply retweet 99% of Hollywood celebrities. Do you really think that a real Antichrist who fit the futurist narrative would not deceive Hollywood and use Hollywood to deceive the world?

The lack of common sense is so breathtaking that I can hardly believe that Brother Key, or you, are sincere. In fact Brother Key seems quite carefree and smiling in his demeanor in the video.

I think it's more likely you just think that Christians are dumb, and you don't really believe it at all.

J said...

Anonymous 8:23 PM,

Thanks, I was trying to keep the wheat and lose the chaff, as Constance would say.

J said...

X 11:54 PM,

Trump did very well with the Hispanic vote in Florida, especially among the Cuban exile community.

RayB said...

Anonymous said @ 11:34 PM:

"White nationalists are once again using Christian symbols to spread hate"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/02/28/white-nationalists-use-christian-symbols-send-messages-racists/4457702001/

Dear Anonymous,

Thank you for the unbiased, very trustworthy, news story from the very unbiased USA Today.

I'm asking for your help. I can't seem to find ANY story, as in not even one, that USA Today has ever published exposing the highly racist, extremely violent, anti-American, pro-Communist groups known as Black Lives Matter and their comrades in *ANTIFA. I'm find that USA Today always uses the moniker "protestors" when describing these violent terrorists. Lots of times, the nice, totally unbiased folks at USA Today describes BLM/ANTIFA as "peaceful protestors" while cars and buildings are attacked and burned, and innocent people are "flash mob" attacked.

* Disclaimer; Joe Biden says ANTIFA doesn't really exist, they're merely an "idea." Strange how these "ideas" are able to attack, kill, rape, maim, loot, burn, etc. Stranger yet is how these "ideas" all look the same (all wear black and wear black battle gear), act the same, carry the ANTIFA banner, display the Communist flag, and keep showing up in various cities, not just in America, but around the world.

J said...

This is from 1995. The Southern Baptist Convention is the largest evangelical grouping in America. Yet the narrative being pushed now by a media blitz, is that Christian leaders for the very first time are condemning white supremacy, in the wake of January 6th.

Resolution On Racial Reconciliation On The 150th Anniversary Of The Southern Baptist Convention

https://www.sbc.net/resource-library/resolutions/resolution-on-racial-reconciliation-on-the-150th-anniversary-of-the-southern-baptist-convention/

WHEREAS, Since its founding in 1845, the Southern Baptist Convention has been an effective instrument of God in missions, evangelism, and social ministry; and

WHEREAS, The Scriptures teach that Eve is the mother of all living (Genesis 3:20), and that God shows no partiality, but in every nation whoever fears him and works righteousness is accepted by him (Acts 10:34-35), and that God has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on the face of the earth (Acts 17:26); and

WHEREAS, Our relationship to African-Americans has been hindered from the beginning by the role that slavery played in the formation of the Southern Baptist Convention; and

WHEREAS, Many of our Southern Baptist forbears defended the right to own slaves, and either participated in, supported, or acquiesced in the particularly inhumane nature of American slavery; and

WHEREAS, In later years Southern Baptists failed, in many cases, to support, and in some cases opposed, legitimate initiatives to secure the civil rights of African-Americans; and

WHEREAS, Racism has led to discrimination, oppression, injustice, and violence, both in the Civil War and throughout the history of our nation; and

WHEREAS, Racism has divided the body of Christ and Southern Baptists in particular, and separated us from our African-American brothers and sisters; and

WHEREAS, Many of our congregations have intentionally and/or unintentionally excluded African-Americans from worship, membership, and leadership; and

WHEREAS, Racism profoundly distorts our understanding of Christian morality, leading some Southern Baptists to believe that racial prejudice and discrimination are compatible with the Gospel; and

WHEREAS, Jesus performed the ministry of reconciliation to restore sinners to a right relationship with the Heavenly Father, and to establish right relations among all human beings, especially within the family of faith.

Therefore, be it RESOLVED, That we, the messengers to the Sesquicentennial meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention, assembled in Atlanta, Georgia, June 20-22, 1995, unwaveringly denounce racism, in all its forms, as deplorable sin...

(It was too long to fit; the rest can be read at the link.)

RayB said...


"X" ... regarding your 10:24 PM post:

Do you recall that very early on, Trump blocked travel from China to the US? Do you recall as well that the media, along with Pelosi, Schumer, and a number of other Democrats were highly critical of Trump's China travel ban, referring to it as "racist" and "xenophobic"?

Also, your post reveals a true lack of understanding on our part as to the Constitutional mandates that exist regarding the relationship between the Federal Government and the individual states. Strict LIMITATIONS (10th. Amendment of the US Constitution) are placed upon the Federal Government by the Constitution when it comes to interfering with the governmental policies of the individual states. During the campaign, Biden himself acknowledged that fact as well, stating that there can be "no enforceable Federal mandate regarding the wearing of masks." Trump, following the Constitution, left it up to the individual states to decide.

For the Federal Government to get involved within an individual state, that state's governor must make a formal appeal to the Federal Government, whereby the Federal Government may, or may not, respond. THAT is how the process works. The Federal Government CANNOT arbitrarily, acting upon its own volition, force mandates upon ANY individual state which interferes with the governance of the state. The Governor of a state must make a FORMAL request to the Federal Government for assistance. Both Calif. Gov. Gavin Newsom and NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo (both Democrats) did just that, and both praised Trump for "giving us everything that we requested." Somehow, you failed to mention that.

State's rights can only be circumvented under the declaration of Marshal Law. I can only imagine, had Trump done that, what your hyperbolic response would have been!

The bottom line is this; while the media LOVES to blame Trump for everything, the reality is that EACH INDIVIDUAL STATE is responsible for the COVID policies that were implemented within the state by the Governor. It is NOT the responsibility of the POTUS to "govern" where he/she is not Constitutionally authorized to do so. The STATES, collectively, are responsible for the COVID "deaths" that you cite, and NOT TRUMP and THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

RayB said...

J,

Dittos to the Anonymous post that "you are on a roll" !

Anonymous said...

Minorities came out in droves to vote for President Trump, x.
Deal with it.

They were cheated out of a President who actually listened to them and didn't use them like the Democrats plantation tyrants you love, who did that to minorities by fraud voting and counting and last minute unfair election law changes (with the help of stacked Democrat courts and compromised RINO'S) to shift their votes away from Trump.
The swamp hates free people nowhere their background.

The cheat to win crowd is your people. Own it.

I miss having a real President.
The puppet in there now is working for the former Manchurian President who has a job for OBiden to finish. The final dagger to the heart of the USA.

RayB said...

J,

I don't think Brother James Key is the leader of a "cult," although he does seem to have some devoted followers that seem to like the taste of Kool Aid. I think of him as just another, common, religious charlatan con man that is peddling his $chtick.

Try to imagine the Apostle Paul doing something like this:

Brother James Key (the "Profit") started a "GoFundMe" account. To help someone in need? Nope. Brother James Key initiated the GoFundME account for none other than one Brother James Key. What's that old saying? "Charity begins at home?" Apparently, Brother James Key's favorite charity is Brother James Key. LOL !!

Anonymous said...

3:28 AM.
I (12:21AM) am another poster entirely. No emojoi's from me. Ever.
I post only here and there.
No foul language either.
And I said nothing against Christine Erikson.
Just call it as I see it, don't care in the least if you agree or not...
..and you can take a hike.

Anonymous said...

Are you being overly-economical with the truth there, 10:04 AM?

Take a hike yourself and make it a very long one indeed.

Anonymous said...

10:04 AM

Nothing new. This blogspot has a history of one or more people who have a deep-seated neurotic compulsion to attempt to assign authorship to anonymous posts.

Anonymous said...

10:04 AM

Nothing new. This blogspot has a history of one or more people who have a deep-seated neurotic compulsion to attempt to assign authorship to anonymous posts.

RayB said...


Four Democrat Governors Issued Similar Nursing Home Polices to Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s

Democratic Party's idea of euthanasia? "Let's put them in with the old folks. They're going to die anyways."

The governors of Michigan, California, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania approved similar destructive policies of the Emmy Award winning Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2021/03/01/four-democrat-governors-issued-similar-nursing-home-polices-andrew-cuomo/

Constance Cumbey said...

To RayB asking if anybody could name one single Catholic Demoratic politician against abortion?

In the past I could have named many. My old boss of 50 years ago, Michigan Speaker of the House William A. Ryan was passionately and actively against abortion and held it back in Michigan for many years. The pro-abort in the Michigan State Senate back in those days was Senator Lorraine Beebe, a Republican from Dearborn, Michigan who publicly and proudly talked of her past abortion. Back in those days, if you wanted to get anywhere in the Democratic Party in Michigan one had to be anti-abortion! That was then! Regretfully, probably not now.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Constance, with all due respect, may we get your responses please to the two articles mentioned and linked here and which are posted in full earlier in this thread? Thank you.

You'd previously written "...last weekend, I listened with no small dismay to the taped portions played of the interview between the very fine born-again Secretary of State for Georgia where Trump demanded he make a public statement that he was 'recalculating the election results' and that he find Trump an addition 11,000 plus votes."

And now yet again:

"the revealed events of Trump's phone call to the Georgia Secretary of State asking him to find 11,000 some votes for him, I do see evil in Trump."


The Media Are Lying About Trump's Phone Call With Raffensperger

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/the_media_are_lying_about_trumps_phone_call_with_raffensperger.html


And also...

You wrote "after January 6th and his clearly inciting speech, I cannot vote for Trump at any future time and if I had foreseen that event, I would not have voted for him then. "

As well as...

"After January 6th, and before that the revealed events of Trump's phone call to the Georgia Secretary of State asking him to find 11,000 some votes for him, I do see evil in Trump."

And...

"That speech of Trump was clearly inflammatory. I was deeply worried that it would incite something"


Trump’s Rally Speech Was NOT Illegal “Incitement”

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/01/trumps-rally-speech-was-not-illegal-incitement/

Anonymous said...

RayB,

First, here a a couple balanced informative articles about Antifa & BLM found in USAToday.com (you'll find little to nothing this balanced in right-wing infotainment media)

Rioting is beginning to turn people off to BLM and protests while Biden has no solution

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/23/what-antifa-and-what-does-movement-want/593867001/

Rioting is beginning to turn people off to BLM and protests while Biden has no solution

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/31/riots-violence-erupting-turning-many-away-blm-and-protests-column/5675343002/

Second, Trump didn’t ban travel from China. He restricted it. Dozens of countries took similar steps to control travel from hot spots before or around the same time the U.S. did. The U.S. restrictions didn't even take effect until Feb. 2 and continued to allow travel to the U.S. from China’s Hong Kong and Macao territories. More than 8,000 Chinese and foreign nationals based in those territories entered the U.S. in the first three months AFTER the travel restrictions were imposed. Additionally, more than 27,000 Americans returned from mainland China in the first month after the restrictions took effect and U.S. officials lost track of more than 1,600 of them who were supposed to be monitored for virus exposure.

Third, Biden did not come out against the travel restrictions on China. He said little about them at the time. In April, his campaign said he supported travel restrictions if “guided by medical experts.” Biden did say Trump has a record of xenophobia, a comment made during an Iowa campaign event when the restrictions were announced. Biden said Trump was “fear-mongering” against foreigners and the Democrat took issue with Trump’s references to the “China virus” as an example. He did not address the travel steps. Trump has claimed that Biden realized he was right after all about restricting travel from China and wrote him a “letter of apology.” This didn’t happen, either.

Fourth, On May 30, 2020 Biden said in a statement about George Floyd: "Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not." In a campaign speech on June 2 about the Floyd protests, Biden said: "There’s no place for violence, no place for looting or destroying property or burning churches or destroying businesses." On July 28, he said: "I’ve said from the outset of the recent protests that there is no place for violence or the destruction of property. Peaceful protesters should be protected — but arsonists and anarchists should be prosecuted — and local law enforcement can do that." After protests in downtown Portland, Ore., for every night for nearly three months following Floyd’s killing, Biden said Aug. 30 in a statement while campaigning: "I condemn violence of every kind by anyone, whether on the left or the right. And I challenge Donald Trump to do the same." On Aug. 26, in the wake of violence in Kenosha, Wis., following the police shooting of Jacob Blake, Biden said in a video: "Burning down communities is not protest, it’s needless violence — violence that endangers lives, violence that guts businesses, and shutters businesses that serve the community. That’s wrong."

x






Anonymous said...

Vatican Betrays Mary The Mother Of Jesus For Prophet Muhammad

The same folks to bring you “Abrahamism”—the idea that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are intricately connected—have narrowed their sights on promoting Mary, the mother of Christ, as “a Jewish, Christian and Muslim woman,” in the words of Catholic priest Fr. Gian Matteo of the Pontifical International Marian Academy.

https://pjmedia.com/columns/raymond-ibrahim/2021/02/26/vatican-betrays-virgin-mary-for-prophet-muhammad-n1428697

Anonymous said...

THE ORIGINS OF ANTIFA

Briefly, what is Antifa and why should anyone care about it?

April 16, 2018
By Matthew Vadum
CapitalResearch.org

The Left’s explosive, prolonged rage at the election of President Donald Trump on Nov. 8, 2016, gave new life to the ultra-violent leftist movement known as Antifa.

As a result, Antifa, which has been described as a revolutionary communist-anarchist militia movement that aspires to forcibly overthrow the United States government, is responsible for “a level of sustained political street warfare not seen in the U.S. since the 1960s.”

Reports of Antifa violence are everywhere, which is why the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has quietly designated Antifa as “domestic terrorists.” (Capital Research Center produced a three-part documentary series, America Under Siege, about Antifa and other political actors.)

Antifa is not a single organization: it is a movement or coalition of leftist groups, each of which claims to combat “fascism,” a political ideology whose definition academics have been arguing about for decades. The word Antifa itself is a truncation of anti-fascist.

Despite the name, the movement embraces fascistic tactics.

Antifa has gained new prominence in the post-Obama era. They trace their roots back to Nazi Germany. Although they opposed the Sturmabteilung (SA), or Nazi storm troopers, like the SA they also used violence to intimidate political opponents and break up their meetings and rallies. It could be argued that the ideological distance between Antifa and the now-defunct National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated as NSDAP) or Nazi Party, is so slight it can be measured in millimeters.

Determining who funds Antifa is difficult because the movement is highly decentralized and consists of private individuals and loosely affiliated groups.

Journalist Lee Stranahan downplays the significance of funding to Antifa.

“While it’s been proven that funders like Soros and the Democrat Party have paid protest organizers and some protesters, groups like the violent Black Bloc [sic – black bloc refers to a set of tactics, not a group] typically aren’t motivated by money, but instead come to protests because of their anti-American ideology, base criminal desires and thrill seeking.”

Nonetheless, the left-wing billionaire George Soros has ties to Antifa through a group called the Alliance for Global Justice (AfGJ). Soros’s philanthropy, known at the time as the Open Society Institute, gave $100,000 to AfGJ ($50,000 in 2004 and $50,000 in 2006).

Acting as a fiscal sponsor, AfGJ gave $50,000 to Refuse Fascism, an unincorporated Antifa group. Fiscal sponsors are recognized tax-exempt 501(c)(3) nonprofits that take in donations on behalf of unincorporated or small groups so that donors can deduct the donations from their taxes, charging the group receiving the donation a processing fee.

Refuse Fascism was created in the weeks after Donald Trump’s unexpected victory over Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election. The group’s goal was summed up in a slogan on its website: “It’s Fascism: Drive Out the Trump/Pence Regime!”

Anonymous said...

Refuse Fascism participated in rioting on Feb. 1, 2017, at the University of California, Berkeley, with the goal of preventing conservative controversialist Milo Yiannopoulos from giving a speech. The rioting caused more than $500,000 in damage.

Stopping someone from speaking is called no-platforming (or sometimes de-platforming). Summoning the spirit of “Repressive Tolerance” essayist Herbert Marcuse, the so-called father of the New Left who favored shutting down non-leftists, Antifa and others on the far Left believe that fascists are not entitled to free speech.

But Antifa operates under a twisted definition of fascism, labeling mainstream conservatives fascists and lumping them in with white-supremacists and neo-Nazis.

Except in the fantasies of Antifa and radical hate groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, it is fair to say that true fascists are hard to find in the U.S. today.

Nevertheless, Antifa supporters are talented at finding fascists where they don’t exist.

Radical journalist Natasha Lennard wrote at the Nation on the eve of Inauguration Day 2017, that Donald Trump is a living, breathing example of a fascist:

To call Trumpism fascist is to suggest that it demands from us a unique response. We can deploy the “fascism” moniker to Trump’s ascendance by recognizing features like selective populism, nationalism, racism, traditionalism, the deployment of Newspeak and disregard for reasoned debate. The reason we should use the term is because, taken together, these aspects of Trumpism are not well combated or contained by standard liberal appeals to reason. It is constitutive of its fascism that it demands a different sort of opposition.

So is Manhattan Institute scholar Heather Mac Donald, allegedly, because she is pro-police.

In April 2017, Antifa prevented Mac Donald from entering an auditorium at Claremont McKenna College where she was supposed to deliver a speech. Bizarrely, the activists called her “a fascist, a white supremacist, a warhawk, a transphobe, a queerphobe, [and] a classist” who was “ignorant of interlocking systems of domination that produce the lethal conditions under which oppressed peoples are forced to live.”

All because she has written books about how the police are not racist.

Anonymous said...

Meanwhile, here are just a few examples of Antifa violence from 2017:

·On March 4, hundreds of Antifa activists descended on Berkeley to use violence to disrupt a “March 4 Trump” rally. At least 10 protesters were arrested. The same day Woody Kaine, son of Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va..), was part of an Antifa assault on Trump supporters in the rotunda of the Minnesota Capitol. Kaine fought with police as they tried to arrest him for lobbing a smoke bomb.

·On March 25, Antifa launched a counter-protest at a pro-Trump event in Philadelphia. They chanted, “Any time, any place, punch a Nazi in the face!” and forced the cancelation of the rally. Antifa hurled bricks at Trump supporters during a march in Portland, Oregon, on June 4. Police relied on tear gas and stun grenades to disperse the mob.

·On August 19, “[w]hen a few dozen people held a free speech rally in Boston…, some 40,000 ‘anti-fascist’ protesters gathered to stage a counter-demonstration,” according to a report. “All told, there were 33 arrests, mostly for disorderly conduct and assaults on police officers.”
The same month in Berkeley, Antifa protested President Trump’s proposed border wall and the very existence of America. “No Trump, No Wall, No USA at All!” they chanted.

·The Antifa website ItsGoingDown.org states that “in the U.S., most [anti-fascist] activists are anarchist, although a few are Maoist or anti-state Marxists,” but “in other countries, the movement is predominately Marxist.”

Antifa views America and those who safeguard its free institutions as fundamentally illegitimate. ItsGoingDown.org advises activists to “build a culture of non-cooperation with law enforcement.” “If you have any intention of working with the police, FBI, or other agencies,” it continues, “or if you publically [sic] condemn anti-fascists who break the law: don’t call yourself an anti-fascist.”

ItsGoingDown.org has urged activists to make the country “ungovernable” by participating in “mass insurrection,” “mass resistance,” and “all manner of physical violence” against Trump supporters, capitalists, and “conservative fascists.” The website displayed propaganda images of violent attacks on persons wearing Trump campaign hats bearing the slogan, “Make America Great Again.” This kind of violence was a “necessary evil” to promote social justice and destroy “fascism.”

Because of the rise of Antifa in the current political climate, CRC is launching a rolling exposé on the movement. In a series designed to grow into a separate website, CRC will examine in more detail the origin and history of Antifa, the ideology behind the movement, Antifa leaders and sympathizers, sources of funding, and common coalition partner groups. The exposé will include databases to make it easier for readers to track members, events, and even victims.

https://capitalresearch.org/article/origins-of-antifa

Anonymous said...

From the start, Black Lives Matter has been about LGBTQ

https://abcnews.go.com/US/start-black-lives-matter-lgbtq-lives/story?id=71320450

Anonymous said...

Like The Soviets, Black Lives Matter Purges Its History

September 23, 2020

Commentary By: Andrew Olivastro, Director, Coalition Relations & Mike Gonzalez, Senior Fellow, Angeles T. Arredondo E Pluribus Unum Fellow

With support sharply dropping, the Black Lives Matter organizations have quietly removed some of the most overtly anti-American and anti-family statements from their websites.

Support varies by demographic, but the findings are unanimous: The more we know, the less we like.

The BLM organization is employing the well-known Soviet practice of purging history.

The BLM organizations were never about affirming the foundational truth of equality for all Americans. They want wholesale submission to their devastating ideology.

The Black Lives Matter organizations that swiftly captured the nation’s attention have expeditiously and quietly been softening their rhetoric and removing the most un-American statements from their websites. This is because the millions poised to agree with the slogan Black Lives Matter began distancing themselves from these organizations as their true intentions came to light.

From June through September, as people learned more about the destructive beliefs of the BLM organizations, support dropped 9 points in a Politico-Morning Consult poll. A second Pew Research poll also recorded a 9-point drop among those who strongly support the movement and an overall 12-point drop among U.S. adults.

Support varies by demographic, but the findings are unanimous: The more we know, the less we like.

In response, the BLM organization is employing the well-known Soviet practice of purging history.

“With little fanfare, Black Lives Matter removed a section of text that had been under a section called ‘What We Believe’ that sought to engender the destruction … of the nuclear family structure,” reports The Post Millennial, a Canadian news organization.

As Matt Walsh writes in The Daily Wire, “With its direct opposition to the nuclear family, BLM had positioned itself on the fringes of the fringes of the fringe.”

Also removed was the communist word “comrade,” put there on purpose as a wink to fellow Marxists and now removed so the rest of the country won’t catch on.

Rather than clear the air, “page not found” feels like a head fake that isn’t worthy of the moment.

In addition to dwindling public support, major donors have also moved away from the radical BLM organizations. Many iconic brands that declared their support for black lives after the horrific killing of George Floyd are doing so without giving to radical Marxist groups.

The CEOs of America’s largest companies, through their membership in the Business Roundtable, have an entire site dedicated to the more than $6 billion that has been so far dedicated to “public policy solutions and corporate initiatives to advance racial equity and justice.” Travel across the more than 80 links on the page and you see that these major employers are spreading their shareholder’s wealth around—and purposefully funneling it far away from the BLM organizations.

The list of programs include Apple and PepsiCo’s hiring efforts, AT&T’s direct spending with U.S.-owned black suppliers, and Boeing’s investment in long-held community partnerships.

Anonymous said...

We applaud these profit-making capitalist enterprises for their awareness that it isn’t wise to bankroll communists intent on smashing capitalism.

BLM’s response to this massive abandonment isn’t statements of clarity, or even a reconsideration of its mission. It’s greater obfuscation—a lesson in public opinion warfare it perhaps picked up from friends in the Chinese Communist Party.

For example, in her Sept. 11 announcement being named executive director for the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation—the umbrella organization for the BLM global movement—Patrisse Cullors said nothing about the economy, jobs, or opportunity. Instead, the reader is treated to language about “cellular renewal,” capacity building, and organizational transition.

Readers will remember Cullors as one of the original founders of the BLM organization and a self-proclaimed Marxist. She and another co-founder, Opal Tometi, can be seen in this video praising Joanne Chesimard, also known as Assata Shakur—a communist convicted cop-killer who is now a fugitive in Cuba—and chanting the communist slogan, “We have nothing to lose but our chains.”

The only goal Cullors mentions in her announcement is “to ensure BLM grassroots has the tools and resources it needs to strengthen our movement on-the-ground.”

She’s back in charge—an affirmation of who they are at the core. All that’s changing is how they talk about themselves and how we might perceive them. Put another way, BLM is selling a product that no one is buying.

There’s no apology for riots that cost lives, ruined property, and channeled youthful, productive energies into unproductive activities—the rewards of which are permanent arrest records for untold thousands of our fellow citizens.

There’s no recognition that a guillotine outside Jeff Bezos’ Washington, D.C., home is an affront to those who aspire to choose their own path and voluntarily participate in the one economic system that has lifted more people out of poverty and generated more wealth than any other.

There’s no appreciation for fundamental truths about human development. That traditional family structures—as scientific consensus proves and our shared neighborhood experiences reveal—are what best position children and adults for better health, emotional well-being, and more.

The BLM organizations were never about affirming the foundational truth of equality for all Americans. They want wholesale submission to their devastating ideology.

Their verbal gymnastics and sleight of hand will continue. Even changing their name to “Blacks Loathe Marxism” wouldn’t excuse us from examining their words.

We wager that future polls will show further erosion of support. Donors will continue to give money to other organizations that are trying to bring benefits to individuals and communities.

A movement that is trying to divide us will find that we still have much in common, that the American dream comes in all colors, and we share an unshakeable belief in it and each other.

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/the-soviets-black-lives-matter-purges-its-history


Related: PROGRESSIVISM

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism

Anonymous said...

In response to a previous post on this thread from Anonymous @ 3:34 AM . . .

Most Catholics wouldn't even bother to respond to rabid anti-Catholic Loraine Boettner's LITANY OF FALSEHOODS (not to mention the sadly misinformed person who posted them).

Re: The RCC doesn't get to share in nor usurp God Almighty and His Holy Word from the authority to determine what heresy is (& thus who heretics are).

The Magisterium (teaching authority) of the Roman Catholic Church is not 'usurping God's authority.' Why? Because, God's authority was delegated to Peter, and through Peter to the Apostles, by Christ Himself, the Word made flesh.

Matthew 16:15-19
15 He (Jesus ) said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not [a]prevail against it. 19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

Anonymous said...

In response to a previous post on this thread from Anonymous @ 3:34 AM . . .

Most Catholics wouldn't even bother to respond to rabid anti-Catholic Loraine Boettner's LITANY OF FALSEHOODS (not to mention the sadly misinformed person who posted them).

Re: The RCC doesn't get to share in nor usurp God Almighty and His Holy Word from the authority to determine what heresy is (& thus who heretics are).

The Magisterium (teaching authority) of the Roman Catholic Church is not 'usurping God's authority.' Why? Because, God's authority was delegated to Peter, and through Peter to the Apostles, by Christ Himself, the Word made flesh.

Matthew 16:15-19
15 He (Jesus ) said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not [a]prevail against it. 19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

Anonymous said...

Forget 5G... Apple is now looking for engineers to work on 6G!!!

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-01-apple-looking-for-engineers-work-on-6g.html

Anonymous said...

Matthew Vadum and his article above is a great example of unbalanced ideological and political speech masquerading as journalism. I'm not denying BLM is far left, it's just not nearly as dangerous as the machine fighting against it and exploiting it as a bogeyman. Same with Antifa ideology. These groups are all tiny compared to the forces opposing them...which is kind of their point to some extent.

I hope you conservative men understand how and why your media is misinforming and playing you on behalf of dark state operators and oligarchs bent on their own alt-right power and money.

capitalresearch.org is an ultra-right-wing "think-tank" run by Edwin Meese, Opus Dei, Heritage Foundation, and funded by the likes of the Koch Brothers and largely, the Sarah Scaife Foundation.

Capital Research Center's mission: Part of the conservative campaign to 'Defund the left' the Capital Research Center produces a range of publications targeting foundations, unions and activist groups that it views as supporting liberal causes.

It's lobbying, not journalism.

I believe Matthew Valum, a single man, age 53 is a likely a numerary (a celibate man who has dedicated his life and income to the "the Work" - he looks like a hobbit so it's probably not by choice). He has written many articles critical of Pope Francis, which is a further Opus Dei tell. It's equally interesting that he's now a contributing writer for Epoch Times. Which is likely evidence of a Fulan Gong/Opus Dei Catholic partnership.

While researching I saw that Matthew Valum used to write for The American Thinker, a far-right online zine. He wrote the following an article he wrote September 2011 titled "Registering the Poor to Vote is Un-American":

"Registering them to vote is like handing out burglary tools to criminals. It is profoundly antisocial and un-American to empower the nonproductive segments of the population to destroy the country — which is precisely why Barack Obama zealously supports registering welfare recipients to vote."

You guys call me "elitist" --- but these billionaires, organizations and their foundations have you cutting and pasting their purchased right-wing spin propaganda far and wide.

This is MORE than just journalistic bias -- it's deliberate orthodox catholic misinformation.

x

Anonymous said...

Matthew Vadum and his article above is a great example of unbalanced ideological and political speech masquerading as journalism. I'm not denying BLM is far left, it's just not nearly as dangerous as the machine fighting against it and exploiting it as a bogeyman. Same with Antifa ideology. These groups are all tiny compared to the forces opposing them...which is kind of their point to some extent.

I hope you conservative men understand how and why your media is misinforming and playing you on behalf of dark state operators and oligarchs bent on their own alt-right power and money.

capitalresearch.org is an ultra-right-wing "think-tank" run by Edwin Meese, Opus Dei, Heritage Foundation, and funded by the likes of the Koch Brothers and largely, the Sarah Scaife Foundation.

Capital Research Center's mission: Part of the conservative campaign to 'Defund the left' the Capital Research Center produces a range of publications targeting foundations, unions and activist groups that it views as supporting liberal causes.

It's lobbying, not journalism.

I believe Matthew Valum, a single man, age 53 is a likely a numerary (a celibate man who has dedicated his life and income to the "the Work" - he looks like a hobbit so it's probably not by choice). He has written many articles critical of Pope Francis, which is a further Opus Dei tell. It's equally interesting that he's now a contributing writer for Epoch Times. Which is likely evidence of a Fulan Gong/Opus Dei Catholic partnership.

While researching I saw that Matthew Valum used to write for The American Thinker, a far-right online zine. He wrote the following an article he wrote September 2011 titled "Registering the Poor to Vote is Un-American":

"Registering them to vote is like handing out burglary tools to criminals. It is profoundly antisocial and un-American to empower the nonproductive segments of the population to destroy the country — which is precisely why Barack Obama zealously supports registering welfare recipients to vote."

You guys call me "elitist" --- but these billionaires, organizations and their foundations have you cutting and pasting their purchased right-wing spin propaganda far and wide.

This is MORE than just journalistic bias -- it's deliberate orthodox catholic misinformation.

x

Anonymous said...

First US lawsuit filed over mandatory COVID vaccinations:
New Mexico detention center worker SUES his employer after being told he'd be fired for refusing inoculation

Isaac Legaretta filed his lawsuit against the Doña Ana County manager and his detention center supervisor on Sunday

The suit alleges that the defendants violated his rights by making the COVID-19 vaccine a condition of employment for first responders

It marked America's first lawsuit to take on the issue of mandatory vaccinations

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9317793/First-lawsuit-filed-mandatory-COVID-vaccinations-New-Mexico.html?ito=push-notification&ci=88038&si=19687890

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Contance is familiar with the writings and work of Betty Clermont?

Some of you were surprised by the term "Christian Nationalism" and Mrs. Clermont wrote a book in 2009 titled: "The Neo-Catholics: Implementing Christian Nationalism in America" exposing it's origins. I haven't read it all the way through yet but intend to. It ties in Opus Dei as the financier and boots on the ground of this subversive ecumenical authoritarian movement.

Here's the book summary:

"Volumes have been written about the role the Religious Right played in achieving its ultimate goal - the presidency of George W. Bush. But few know the primary and
essential role played by Catholics in instituting and directing the Religious Right as the means for the neoconservative takeover of the U.S. government, a group the
author calls neo-Catholics. The first neoconservatives - Irving Kristol, Allan Bloom, and Francis Fukuyama - were proponents of the philosopher Leo Strauss who
considered the ideal state as one ruled by an intellectual elite with religion used to mollify and intimidate the masses into obedience.

Not only did Catholic leaders have a millennium of experience in propping up monarchs and dictators, but also Catholics were the largest denomination in the U.
S. Neoconservative Catholics were ready, willing and able to implement the American brand of church/state unification: Christian Nationalism.

This book examines how hawks and neo-conservatives in the Republican Party forged a nexus with powerful right wing Catholics that would change the face of American Catholicism, the structuring of social policy in the United States, and the American agenda in the world.

At the start of the 1980s, the Church’s social justice agenda had been committed to
alleviating poverty, to demilitarization, to affirmative action,and to ending capital punishment-an agenda antipathetic to the Republican platform. By the end of the nineties, its justice agenda was marginalized, and political action was mobilized around concern for the dying and the unborn.

Clermont's rigorous and extensively documented research examines how it was
done."

Anonymous said...

Constance Cumbey speech introduced by Dr. Stan Monteith

https://www.brighteon.com/1ecf24dc-c5b5-4921-8add-36709977128c

Anonymous said...

CPAC Crowd Adores Golden Idol Statue of Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-riHxxqkTA

Anonymous said...

CPAC Crowd Adores Golden Idol Statue of Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-riHxxqkTA

RayB said...

As a lifelong student of history, I have found that the "history" that appears on the surface often conflicts with the real history that lies hidden below that surface. "Reallygraceful" provides some latent, historical information regarding Auschwitz that I have never heard about.

Olga Lengyel was an inmate at Auschwitz and has a VERY interesting story to tell. (I'm hoping to find a copy of this book so that I can read it for myself). She wrote the book "Five Chimneys" in order to share her experiences and observations, some of which are VERY pertinent to what we are experiencing in the here and now.

Short video entitled: Reading through Olga Lengyel's Five Chimneys and asking questions.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/eyQWhl6NTU4K/

Anonymous said...

Yawn, 2:12 PM,
You're pathetic beyond measure. What an awful and friendless person you no doubt are.

Anonymous said...

CPAC Crowd Adores Golden Idol Statue of Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-riHxxqkTA

Anonymous said...

PLAYING GOD:

grandmageri 422.me

Short scroll to article of March 2, 2021

Anonymous said...

PLAYING GOD:

grandmageri442.me

Short scroll to article of March 2, 2021

Anonymous said...

Was Trump 'The Mule?'

zerohedge.com

Wednesday, Feb 24, 2021

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWBUVUqSKHk


Snowden would know...

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWBUVUqSKHk

3rd time trying to post
?

Snowden would know..

Anonymous said...

.

First US lawsuit filed over mandatory COVID vaccinations:
New Mexico detention center worker SUES his employer after being told he'd be fired for refusing inoculation

Isaac Legaretta filed his lawsuit against the Doña Ana County manager and his detention center supervisor on Sunday

The suit alleges that the defendants violated his rights by making the COVID-19 vaccine a condition of employment for first responders

It marked America's first lawsuit to take on the issue of mandatory vaccinations

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9317793/First-lawsuit-filed-mandatory-COVID-vaccinations-New-Mexico.html?ito=push-notification&ci=88038&si=19687890

paul said...

Happy belated birthday Constance!

paul said...

Happy Birthday Constance!

A few days late, sorry

Anonymous said...

THEY'RE COMING FOR YOUR CHILDREN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arGcCvh7tH8

Anonymous said...

HIGHLY DISTURBING VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arGcCvh7tH8

Anonymous said...

THEY'RE COMING FOR YOUR CHILDREN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arGcCvh7tH8

Hutch said...

Thank you, Constance, for the comment moderation. Unfortunate that it was needed. Looking forward to a much improved blog.

Constance Cumbey said...

To Sinny:

1. Why did I believe Eustace Mullins to the occultist he obviously was?

a. His relationship with Ezra Pound and links to the Bollingen Foundation (Alice Bailey ties);
b. His statements in MY LIFE IN CHRIST about the young people running around with long hair and sandals, having different sexual customs being "harbingers and saints of the coming Aquarian Age, Also that the 12 Apostles are the "Twelve Overouls" and MUCH, MORE, plus

He was evil!

Now as regards your comment that the capitol violators of 1-6-2021 were "Antifa" -- no evidence for that whatsoever. Most of them were clearly QANPN.

Constance



c. His book THE WORLD ORDER.

Anonymous said...

Situation Update, Mar. 5th – The “Fourth Reich” – Nazis in charge – coming cosmic false flag

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-05-situation-update-mar-5th-fourth-reich-nazis-in-charge.html

RayB said...

You've all heard of "Sanctuary Cities," right?

How about a Sanctuary Country?

Joe Biden Expands ‘Sanctuary Country’ Orders, Gives Illegal Aliens Another Route to Avoid Arrest

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/03/05/joe-biden-expands-sanctuary-country-orders/

NOTE: And ponder this; while American citizens are being cajoled into taking a dubious, at best, vaccine that has not been fully vetted, illegal aliens are pouring across the border, bringing with them, more COVID, and more.

These are types of ruinous policies that will be the "rule of the land" if the Democrats get their way by enacting into law their Election reform bill H. R. 1 This is a total, absolute disaster, guaranteeing massive future election fraud that will lead to non-stop, Democrat rule, which will enable them to continue on their anti-Christian ways with legislation such as the "Equality Act."

Make no mistake about it; this country is being taken over by a group of radicals that collectively, HATE Jesus Christ, His authoritative Word, and His people.

J said...

It's clear to me that a lot of people out there are eager to cast as much blame on Christians as possible in order to justify persecution of them.

It wouldn't be the first time a false flag or an act of framing was used against Christians.

Recall Nero, who blamed Christians for setting the fire that some historians strongly suspected that he, himself, set. He then used the fire as an excuse to persecute Christians.

We can't justify any evils that any professing Christians may have actually committed. But we should be mindful that lots of people are trying to trick Christians by putting us in double binds.

Recall the Pharisees tried to trick Jesus in a similar manner, as did Satan when he tempted Jesus in the desert.

In our day and age it is an Alinsky tactic.

We are to be both wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

I'm not a futurist or a Dispensationalist. But I think both partial preterists and historicists agree, that Gog and Magog surrounding the "camp of the saints" still awaits us at some time in the future.

Many times in history Christians have been persecuted in other times and places. The Orthodox Christians in the lands occupied by the former Byzantine empire were severely persecuted by the Muslims for many centuries. Millions of Christians were slaughtered in Russia and other regions of the former Soviet Union.

I don't think our persecution in America approaches these other persecutions, which were not yet the prelude to the Second Coming.

But if you read about the second fulfillment of the Gog and Magog prophecy in Revelation, Jesus returns before Gog and Magog have carried out their plans, after surrounding the "camp of the saints".

This is just a thought to consider.

All I'm saying is that it is possibly mistaken to expect a the entire Revelation narrative to unfold before the Second Coming and the battling of Gog and Magog.

I've been reading a book called End Time Rewind, and I have found it very convincing, as compared to futurism.

I found historicism very compelling, but the problem is the idea of progressive revelation, which means it can be changed over time, depending on what happens in history. This is why I ultimately came to believe instead in partial preterism, especially after becoming familiarized with the history from 1 AD to 70 AD. Partial preterism sees the fulfillment of most of Revelation in history. But the dual fulfillment of Gog and Magog is regarded as not having yet happened, and the Second Coming is expected to be in response to Gog and Magog surrounding the "camp of the saints".

It's just something to consider studying and thinking about, especially since the track record of futurist predictions has been a complete failure.

If partial preterism is correct, and if Constance's work documents the plans of Gog and Magog; then it's possible that the only thing Jesus is now waiting for before his Second Coming, is for as many people as possible, to repent first.

This is just a suggestion to consider thinking over, with prayerful and careful study.

A lot of people think nothing will happen until a fourth temple has been built in Jerusalem, and a whole sequence of specific things happens in a specific time frame, first. But is that necessarily true?

J said...

No mercy in collectivism

So it is truly pathetic to see people like ministers pleading for mercy before the Woke Court. Little mercy can be expected from such offenders. At best, they may be allowed the second-class status of perpetually abject penitents who are never really forgiven. However, in a Christian worldview, an individual sinner can receive mercy from fellow sinners, since they are all in the same boat. As Jonathan Edwards puts it, "we are by nature, companions in a miserable helpless condition; which, under a revelation of the divine mercy, tends to promote mutual compassion."

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/03/no_mercy_in_collectivism.html


Anonymous said...

CBS is airing a short documentary about Christian Nationalism on Sunday night March 7th where they will be interviewing "Pastor" Ken Peters, of the newly formed Patriot Church in Knoxville, TN and others.

Even just the article is interesting:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/america-christian-nation-religious-right/

Here's the 5 minute preview:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cbsn-originals-speaking-frankly-preview-142201149.html

x

Hutch said...

This article confirms my own conclusion about DJT after research and following QAnon posts from 2017.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/why-some-new-age-influencers-believe-trump-is-a-lightworker/ar-BB1efKk7?ocid=msedgntp

RayB said...


Re: "X's" post on the documentary that will be airing this Sunday on CBS, entitled "The Right's Fight to Make America a Christian Nation"

The documentary covers the so called, Christian Nationalism "movement", which, if it even exists, represents an incredibly small fragment of American society. But that doesn't stop CBS from sounding the alarm !

What's rather comical is that CBS "news" would give "Pastor Ken Peters" such play time. Based on CBS's time spent on him, you would think Peters is a prominent leader in this "patriot" movement. (He actually denies being a "Christian Nationalist" in the video). In the trailer that "X" posted, the film cuts to a service inside Peters' "Patriot Church" beginning at about the 12:00 mark. Based on the stop footage in the video, I was able to estimate the number of people in attendance to be about 75, hardly a number that would indicate any future success at "making America a Christian nation." That doesn't matter. The narrative of CBS must be followed at all cost; the "danger" is Christianity!

The bottom line is this; CBS "news" will NOT do a truthful documentary on ANTIFA & BLM. They will NEVER report that ANFIFA & BLM directly contributed to the deaths of over 20 people this past year. CBS will NEVER report that ANTIFA & BLM's "protests" were actually violent, that included rape, savage beatings, destruction of property, etc. Why? Because CBS does not want you to know that ANTIFA & BLM are actually terrorist, anti-Christian, Marxist movements intent upon the destruction of our Constitutional republic. CBS doesn't want you to know that ANTIFA & BLM fully promote the radical LGBTQ+ agenda, which includes the destruction of the traditional family unit.

To CBS and others like them ("X" included), Bible believing Christianity is the enemy that needs to be eliminated from society.

CBS's documentary is just another example of anti-Christian propaganda.

Honestly, would you really expect anything else from the main stream media?

RayB said...

"Hutch," like "X," promotes another trustworthy news source ... "salon."

Although I'd have to admit, salon's photo shopping Trump with the New Agey looking angel's wings attached to his head is a nice touch.

ROFL !!!

Anonymous said...

X, an example of who will be a persecutor of the Church because he is already getting ahead of the curve for it now. Loves this hot topic doesn't he?
Maybe Hutch too?

The sources alone tell us they are happy to cram this info down our throats now because those sources are already hoping to find dirt to proceed to amplify it and bring on the consequences.

Anonymous said...

RayB,

First, I don't believe the new Patriot Church and their multi-city denomination of MAGA domestic terrorist Christian Nationalism are actually Christian, so CBS "attacking" them isn't really attacking Jesus, but rather, exposing the false teachers and heretics.

Second, your 20 deaths number is disinformation. You are merely mirroring Opus Dei media outlets attempts to frame all protests as "a violent leftist conspiracy" when the most significant domestic terrorism threats comes from white supremacists, anti-government militias and a handful of individuals associated with the 'boogaloo' movement that are attempting to create a civil war in the United States. Antifa hasn't killed anyone yet. I do think some people were killed after BLM protests last summer by non-affiliated opportunistic local individual vandals set on exploiting the situation for their own individual gain or the settling of local grievances in places like Portland and Seattle.

The bottom line is this; Conservative Alt-Right "Media" will NOT do a truthful documentary on the Alt-Right, Patriot Prayer, Proud Boys, "The Base" and other violent Christian Nationalists. They will NEVER report that these Christian Nationalist groups directly contributed to the deaths of over 329 people since 1994. Fox News, Newsmax, OAN, Epoch Times, New Tang Dynasty Network will NEVER report that the ecumenical dominionist Christian Nationist "protests" were actually violent, domestic political terrorism that included rape, savage beatings, destruction of property, etc. Why? Because conservatives don't want you to know that MAGA Christian Nationalists aren't really Christians at all and are actually terrorist, anti-Christian, Neo-Nazi movements led by Roman Catholics and intent upon the destruction of our Constitutional Republic in favor of an ecumenical Christian white Authoritarian government. Mike Adams at Natural News doesn't want you to know that behind the scenes wealthy Opus Dei operatives are fully funding, promoting and encouraging the radical "patriot" white faux-Christian supremacists agenda, which includes the destruction of really everything, including the traditional family unit.

Anti-Defamation League: Center on Extremism: "When Women are the Enemy: THE INTERSECTION OF MISOGYNY AND WHITE SUPREMACY"

https://www.adl.org/media/11707/download


"Trump frequently accuses the far-left of inciting violence, yet right-wing extremists have killed 329 victims in the last 25 years, while antifa members haven't killed any, according to a new study" - Business Insider July 31, 2020 (prior to the MAGA insurrection where even more were killed by Right-wing Extremism)

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Kvl8klriqTIJ:https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-329-since-1994-antifa-killed-none-2020-7+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Anonymous said...

Again - Christian Nationalism isn't really a new term. It just has more followers now. In Betty Clermont's 2010 Book: "The Neo-Catholics: Implementing Christian Nationalism in America" she wrote:

"Neo-Catholics would be successful in convincing their followers that the rights of and care for a zygote, blastula, embryo and fetus, would supersede the rights of and care for every post-birth human being while war, torture, raping and sodomizing children, intentional poverty, depriving people of healthcare, and all the ensuing death and suffering resulting from their policies would be excused, justified and endorsed. By framing a legitimate moral issue as "us against them", black and white, all who disagree are not only murderers but unpatriotic Americans bent on destroying families, communities and country"

"By focusing attention on abortion, the Neo-Catholics were able to deregulate big business, eliminate worker and consumer protections, lower taxes for the wealthy and privatize and fund those government programs which poured tax dollars into their pockets. In no other Catholic or Christian nation in the world is abortion accepted as the most vital issue necessary to their societies commonwealth. That the Republican Party did so in the United States is testimony to the neoconservative success in using that issue to consolidate the American religious right.

https://books.google.com/books?id=tO9ITQVORlMC&pg=PT65&lpg=PT65&dq=sarah+scaife+opus+dei&source=bl&ots=jzP7V1dYMd&sig=ACfU3U3veVJi8b38pLX7WeBwpmEYJZdmFA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi4-pashZHvAhUwB50JHQUoDtMQ6AEwEnoECBIQAw#v=onepage&q=sarah%20scaife%20opus%20dei&f=false

RayB said...

Biden's RADICAL open border policies force Texas Governor Abbott to take dramatic action ....

Gov. Abbott Deploys Texas National Guard, State Troopers to Counter Biden’s ‘Open Border Policies’

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/03/06/gov-abbott-deploys-texas-national-guard-state-troopers-to-counter-bidens-open-border-policies/

NOTE: Biden recently announced that ILLEGAL aliens will only he sent back over the border IF THEY COMMIT a FELONY ! Translation: Biden is declaring that America no longer has ANY borders ... everyone is welcome ... and that includes human traffickers, drug smugglers, COVID carriers, etc. If you are a criminal, you are welcome to come on over .... just don't get caught !

Anonymous said...

Pope Francis 'The Climate Freak' Speaks!

https://www.dailywire.com/news/pope-francis-warns-mankind-faces-a-second-great-flood

Anonymous said...

Having been given the Keys To The Kingdom, PF can overrule God Almighty!

"And I will remember my covenant with you, and with every living soul that beareth flesh: and there shall no more be waters of a flood to destroy all flesh." Genesis 9:15

J said...

X 4:06 PM,

A cult of personality (any personality) and devotion to a state (any state) should never supplant worship of God.

At the same time, it is human nature to be patriotic; and this patriotism is not pathologized in anybody else, to the extent that it is in conservative American Christians.

I would never attend the church with the American flag painted on the roof. My question is: how representative is this church? It seems to me that it is intended as a caricature of all conservative Christian Americans who feel deeply skeptical of globalism and who feel loyal to America.

Those who are not loyal to America are not thereby pure as the driven snow. They are serving communist China or the WEF or other types of "beast systems" (in an idealized sense of being a system that is ultimately inspired by Satan, not in the sense of being *the* beast system of Revelation, since that was ancient Rome in my belief).

We in America have a civic responsibility because of our system of government. In this way we can't be compared to a Roman slave. We have more civic responsibility than a slave has.

J said...

P.S. America's founders were explicitly inspired by their religious beliefs regarding God given rights and freedom of religion.

America has frequently been inconsistent according to her own standards.

I support all reforms to make her more consistent; I reject all attempts to make her more like a Satanically inspired beast system and less like the founder's God inspired system.

I don't think there will ever be perfect governance in this life, nor do I think perfect governance in this life should be the Christian's primary goal.

I think that we are either with God or against God.

I don't identify American Christians with the church. I believe the church is global and spiritual with the Holy Spirit indwelling all true believers world wide.

Nonetheless I do see a founding based in freedom of religion and in God given rights as being an at least partially God inspired national founding, even if America has never been and never will be perfect.

I don't see how going away from those founding ideas -- and towards a Satanically inspired system such as Communism or NWO globalism -- is serving and honoring God better.

J said...

A few more thoughts. I don't really know if the emerging NWO is the second fulfillment of Gog and Magog.

I do think that ancient Rome was the beast system of Revelation. As a partial preterist, I believe that, but I also think that as usual, scripture has both a historical context and a more universal application.

The historical context was the early Christians who could all have died, extinguishing Christianity, chewed up and spit out by ancient Rome being sometimes spurred on by the Jews of Jerusalem.

I say that as somebody of Jewish ancestry, and I think it's important to note that Jesus instructed his apostles to evangelize their own Jewish people first before finally turning to the Gentiles. The Jewish Christian converts were called the first fruits. After the death of Jesus, the own people of Jesus and the apostles were given 40 years to repent and come to Jesus, and a great many of them did. Only then, was the third temple destroyed, and only then was Jerusalem made desolate and its remaining living inhabitants taken into captivity into the Roman provinces.

Getting back to the point, scripture is both historical and universal. The historical context was the first century AD. The universal application is to be aware that some systems of governance are Satanically inspired and seem powerful and discouraging. Even so, God's people can take comfort that He is ultimately in control and that He will triumph in the end.

The emerging NWO is an emerging beast system in my opinion. Much evidence could be provided that it is Satanically inspired. Much evidence could also be provided that Communist countries are Satanically inspired.

In American history, there is evidence that the slave trade was also Satanically inspired. The Illuminati infiltrated American freemasonic lodges in the south. Freemasonry became more explicitly occultist over time. The KKK and the Illuminiti in the south was identical, according to some historical evidence.

In all times and places there can be beast systems and mini beast systems in the sense of a system being Satanically inspired.

Ultimately God has given us his promise that His kingdom on earth will prevail. By God's kingdom on earth I mean that Jesus is the King of all believers everywhere on the globe in whom the Holy Spirit indwells.

I know that partial preterism (still believing in a coming second fulfillment of Gog and Magog and a Second Coming of Jesus) is not as popular as futurism / Dispensationalism (believing that most of Revelation remains to be fulfilled in seven years at the end of time). But I ask people to consider the proof that all futurist prophets so far have proven to be false prophets.

I'm willing to change my mind if somebody can convince me that it is scriptural to believe in futurism.

Anonymous said...

New Age NWO medical/monetary system?

NESARA, NESARA, the RV/GCR, and the QFS; Is Out of this World!

Friday, March 5, 2021 post

endtimesforcaster.blogspot.com

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

J at 10:23,

"But if you read about the second fulfillment of the Gog and Magog prophecy in Revelation, Jesus returns before Gog and Magog have carried out their plans, after surrounding the "camp of the saints"."

Sometimes a prophecy is partly fulfilled, then fully fulfilled later. There may be two separate wars involving similar people.

Notice something most interpreters skim over, that for 7 years after they are driven back from Israel, their weapons left behind would be for firewood. Modern weapons don't burn well, so this won't happen until we are in a more primitive condition.

In all subjects one must read all Scripture on the subject and note context. Failure to do this is why we have such wildly differing systems of thought on this not to mention denominations.

The Gog Magog war of Revelation is the revolt satan causes whenhe is released to tempt mankind one more time after 1000 years while he has been fully bound and cannot tempt "the nations." My fellow Orthodox and rhe RC and amil prots spiritualize this to mean he is bound now, but clearly he is not fully bound but crippled. or the first rebel is bound but acts through his fellow demons.

This is an overresponse to the original chiliasm which LIMITED Christ's reign on earth to 1,000 years, but Revelation says tis is just the first part of it. There is a similarity to the revolt against David.

the Creed says "of His Kingdom there shall be no end," not no physical reality. The first to try to spiritualize this away was a student of Origen's who objected the the (to him) crass physicality of such a thing.

After this revolt the last judgement and ther descent of heaven to earth so to speak, the New Jerusalem 1200 to 1500 miles high and wide think multi storey and change in laws of physics or ongoing miracle to sustain this forever.

Origen (anathematized post mortem) and Augustine (valued for his fight against Pelagianism but made problems) are major sources of this kind of over spiritualization of Scripture.

A classic failure to note context is the obsession with Nephilim "As in the days of Noah" and Jesus talks about the unexpected suddenness no one believed the Flood was coming likewise his return will be a surprise to all but believers.

"...all futurist prophets so far have proven to be false prophets." NONE of them were prophets or claiming to be such, merely Bible expositors about prophecy, not hearing from God. They were false because they did not take all Scripture into account, and dismissed whatever they couldn't fit into their cold war based mentality. PART of Revelation, the first few chapters, has taken place (there were seven real churches addressed) and we are probably in the time of the third horseman and the situation exists for the hiding effort shown in Rev. 6. Beyond that, no, it hasn't all come to pass. partial preterism makes sense, the antichrist is not Nero, early church fathers expected a later actual antichrist, and considered the Roman empire by imposing order helped hold him back, though they knew about Nero.

PRE WRATH rapture is Scriptural the rest is not. Jesus is in the immediate sky, catches us up from the tribulation which He ends right then by sending down the wrath (tribulation is not wrath) then descends with us to rule on earth forever.

J said...

Christine 10:54 AM,

I don't think all the early church fathers had one uniform opinion about the antichrist. But the historical record shows that the early Christians (including a very large, perhaps even majority number of Jewish Christians) understood the prophecies and warnings and that a great number of them went to Pella, Jordan to be safe during the siege of Jerusalem.

It's a big subject, and I only want to invite people to study it for themselves. I have formed my beliefs partially from R.C. Sproul's book, The Last Days According to Jesus. Last year I read the book, End Time Rewind by Steven Sabatino. More recently I read the book, The Beast: A Partial Preterist View.

I'm open to feedback if others are familiar with these authors and have criticism of them.

I don't want to get into a knock down drag out debate about complicated subjects involving deeply held beliefs. I wouldn't expect anybody to change their mind immediately. I think at the very least, study of 1st century AD Rome and Jerusalem is a good idea for every Christian. It helps to enrich comprehension of the historical context of the New Testament.

J said...

I should clarify that at the time when Jerusalem was under siege from the Roman army, the early Christians who had previously been inside the walls of Jerusalem but who had removed to Pella, may have been comprised more of Jewish Christians than Gentile Christians. That's really all I meant to say.

J said...

Mostly I've read books but one article I read yesterday about partial preterism is:

Bill Wepfer: Which Way to the End? A Primer on Eschatology and the Message of Revelation (2018)

https://preteristarchives.org/bill-wepfer-which-way-to-the-end-a-primer-on-eschatology-and-the-message-of-revelation-2018/

This article is very down-to-earth and readable. Here is a taste:

I once tried to find a Bed-n-Breakfast in a small Welsh town. Unfortunately, all I’d been given were relative directions – “take the 2nd right, then the 3rd left, go straight past the brick house” and so forth. What is assumed with such instructions? That I had started in the right spot! If one began at a different crossroads, as happened to me, then one will end up in a muddy field, where I nearly got the rental car stuck. What’s worse, on occasion it seemed that the instructions aligned with my travels, so I thought I was going the right way when all the while I was way off track. It is the same with end times prophecies (eschatology). If your initial assumptions are off then you’ll end up in a twisted, muddy Scriptural mess. It may seem that you’ve made some of the correct turns – some things will appear to line up with the Bible – but in fact you will have gotten nothing right at all. This is akin to John Reisinger’s example of his wife’s sweater. If she’s off on the 1st button, all the rest seem to fit, but how many buttons are in the right holes? None! Stepping back and looking at the incorrectly buttoned sweater, the error is clear. Maybe stepping back and taking a holistic eschatological overview would help point out where we may have erred at the outset; this will enable us figure out how to start at the right spot while driving, or how to put the first button in the proper sweater hole.

J said...

X 10:25 PM,

Hmmm, Betty Clermont wrote before the neo-conservatives became never Trumpers.

Actually Trump did not start any new wars during his presidency -- consistent with paleo-conservatism, not neo-conservatism.

She may be sincerely concerned about care of the needy and downtrodden. But she shows no sign of awareness of the history of socialism or Communism, which have frequently trodden people down even more and impoverished them even more.

Nor does she make an effort to distinguish between individual or church charity vs. government spending.

She seems well meaning but confused, and your quote is a little outdated, given the neo-conservatives frequently grouping against the MAGA movement.

Anonymous said...

Trump didn't start any new wars but he maintained and even escalated the wars we were in while also increasing the rhetoric, distrust and hostility. "Trump was never anti-war. Not when he was a candidate, and not after four years in office. But there’s a reason his attacks on the pro-war establishment took hold. The people are tired of the status quo. We want change. Now is our chance to make it."

"Trump the anti-war president was always a myth"

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2021/01/20/trump-the-anti-war-president-was-always-a-myth/

Betty Clermont still writes. I found this on her blog from 2019 discussing the Neo-Catholic relationship with Trump.

https://opentabernacle.wordpress.com/2019/03/22/resurgence-of-the-catholic-political-right-under-trump/

And this blog entry about how the Republican Party has long been an engine for white resentment politics:

https://opentabernacle.wordpress.com/2021/01/30/the-disappearing-religious-right/

I disagree with the bilateral goalpost of "Capitalism" on one side and "Socialism/Communism" on the other. We all enjoy many "socialist" undertakings from fire & police, to sanitation, to public parks and beaches, postal services, federal lands as well as social safety nets like medicare, social security & unemployment while living under an economic system far removed from Marxism. I just found Betty Clermont so I'm not attesting to her being right about everything, however, her blog did provide an interesting post by Frank Coccozelli titled: "Is Pope Francis a Marxist — or Just a Good Catholic?" that included the following, "Distributive Justice capitalism is not Marxism — although that is what many of its critics on the Right falsely allege. Instead, it is a third way that strives to ignore the arbitrary power that often results from the unchecked power that accompanies both Marxism and yes, laissez-faire capitalism."

https://opentabernacle.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/is-pope-francis-a-marxist-or-just-a-good-catholic/

I also agree with this quote in the above blogpost, especially as the U.S. becomes more secular

"Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system."


RayB said...


I'm not trying to tell you whether or not to take the COVID vaccine, but at least make an informed decision. Few people know more about the inner workings of Big Pharma, Bill Gates, the Federal Government, etc. than does Robert Kennedy, Jr. RFK, Jr. has been in the legal trenches with Big Pharma for over 15 years. This is a riveting, informative interview:

Robert Kennedy Jr. Destroys Big Pharma, Fauci & Pro-Vaccine Movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLi6ZrFp6vQ

J said...

X 5:32 PM,

I read some of this:

https://opentabernacle.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/is-pope-francis-a-marxist-or-just-a-good-catholic/

And I noticed that it quickly got down to Roman and Medieval thinkers -- Aristotle, Cicero, Maimonides, Thomas Aquinas -- who believed in distributive justice.

I will just say this. The Roman system was based upon patronage in a world where a few were born to command and most were born to obey. A few were born with property and the rest were born without it. But the many were very grateful to the few for their patronage. It was their social glue.

Think of a southern slave saying to the gracious lady of the house, "Oh, thank you so much, ma'am!" in return for some corn bread. Then you may get something of a feel for "patronage".

The Roman system was softened in the Medieval world, but as we know from history, the slaves gradually became serfs, and the aristocracy still retained some sense of social responsibility to be gracious to the serfs -- to give them some "patronage" of sorts.

Systems of patronage were rife with abuse and corruption, but no doubt some people were also gracious and virtuous and honorable sometimes. If they never were, there would not be enough social glue.

I'm going to stop there.

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J said...

To add to what I said about "distributive justice" in the thinking of Medieval and Roman thinkers:

I said that those with property were born to command -- and to "patronize" those who had nothing. I should add how property was gained or defended -- through warfare and plunder. In ancient Rome, once you lost your father's property, you literally lost your father's name, too. At that point you were a slave. You had no identity apart from your ancestral land.

I should point out that our concept of meritocracy through production and hard work was alien to ancient Rome. Warfare was highly regarded, but work was not. Work had a stigma; it was done by slaves. Duty was part of honor; but neither included work. Work was not inherently honorable. Merchants were not highly regarded; they were regarded as soft and given over to enjoying luxury, making them more on the effeminate side.

Our concept of producers being valued was alien.

I wonder why a Catholic thinker has a lot to say about a distributive system (a la patronage) but little to say about Old Testament ideas of social and economic justice.

It is true the year of Jubilee was more of an ideal and was not often put into effect in reality. Nonetheless we can detect from the Old Testament that God had a zone of tolerance but wanted to keep "playing monopoly" within bounds. I don't know if I want to say much more than that.

I don't think the ancient Israelites scorned commerce and labor, if I'm not mistaken. Slavery was tolerated up to a point, but God punished them for breaking a contract to release their slaves. I would need to find that before I could cite it chapter and verse.

My point is the evidence of the OT shows God having a zone of tolerance but deciding "enough is enough". He didn't expect his people to live in Communist utopia but He didn't want just a few people to get all the land and most to be dispossessed of their ancestral land.

The Roman system of patronage was part of the "beast system" of Revelation (to a partial preterist like myself). Patronage was actually a key part of Emperor worship, which became extreme with Nero.

Okay, now I think I'll just leave this subject and wait and see if anybody else wants to chime in regarding it.

Anonymous said...

The Believers Share Their Possessions

"All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.

"Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means “son of encouragement”) sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles’ feet." Acts 4:32-37

But IF you give: DON'T LIE concerning it...

"Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.

"Then Peter said, 'Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.'” Acts 5:1-3

Communal Christian sharing yes, but VOLUNTARY!

J said...

Yes, 5:11 PM, you said the key word: voluntary.

J said...

An interesting note from history:

B.H. Carroll (1915), An Introduction of the English Bible.

During the reign of Tiberius, 14-37 AD, an incident took place that may tell us what the Jews of that time and place called an abomination.

"Pilate, at that time Roman Procurator, sent from Caesarea, the seaport of that country on the Mediterranean Sea, a legion of Roman soldiers and had them secretly introduced into the city and sheltered in the tower of Antonio overlooking the Temple, and these soldiers brought with them their ensigns. The Roman sign was a straight staff, capped with a metallic eagle, and right under the eagle was a graven image of Caesar. Caesar claimed to be divine. Caesar exacted divine worship, and every evening when those standards were placed, the Roman legion got down and worshiped the image of Caesar thereof, and every morning at the roll call a part of the parade was for the whole legion to prostrate themselves before that graven image and worship it. The Jews were so horrified when they saw that image and the consequent worship, they went to Pilate, who was at that time living in Caesarea, and prostrated themselves before him and said, ‘Kill us, if you will, but take that abomination of desolation out of our Holy City and from the neighborhood of our holy temple’ (pp. 263-264)."

RayB said...

J,

That's interesting, but what is the authority on which the author bases this very detailed account?

J said...

RayB,

Are you asking for the original source?

When dealing with prophecy, looking at history to compare it to prophecy is not inappropriate. It doesn't mean history is given equal authority to Scripture. I'm not sure if that's what you were getting at?

Historians could hash it out. I gave the reference. Anybody could research on their own.

But I'll try later to track down the original source.

All the time historicists applied prophecy to Medieval history, and futurists apply prophecy to news headlines as "signs of the times".

None of it has equal authority to Scripture, of course.

But doesn't a look at history to see if prophecy was fulfilled honor the true prophets and sort out the false prophets?

I'm not sure what your question was getting at, but by inference and because of some acquaintance with your thinking, I thought maybe you were supposing I gave history equal authority to Scripture. If not perhaps you could clarify. I'll just stop here, and later I'll come back with the original source if I can track it down, just in case you or somebody else would be interested.

J said...

I made a typo above. The B.H. Carroll title should read, "An Interpretation of the English Bible" not "An Introduction of the English Bible". A pdf is available here if anybody wants to have access to this work that I referenced. I don't have time to search it for footnotes right this minute.

http://www.ourbaptistheritage.org/uploads/8/1/0/2/81023264/bh_carroll_volume_01_genesis.pdf

J said...

Sorry, the pdf only covers Genesis. I'll have to use e-Sword later.

RayB said...

J,

Did the author write a novel, or, was he writing an historical account of these events?

First, let me say this; I am not an expert on Roman history, but, I have read quite a bit of Roman history, and have never read anything that even remotely suggests that Roman soldiers ever "... got down and worshiped the image of Caesar thereof, and every morning at the roll call a part of the parade was for the whole legion to prostrate themselves before that graven image and worship it."

The author makes more broad assertions, such as, "The Jews were so horrified when they saw that image ..." How does he know that the "Jews" were "horrified," and that "... they went to Pilate, who was at that time living in Caesarea, and prostrated themselves before him and said, ‘Kill us, if you will, but take that abomination of desolation out of our Holy City and from the neighborhood of our holy temple’

The writer is providing, what appears to be, detailed accounts of events that happened over 2,000 years ago. What sources did he base these detailed accounts upon?

Anonymous said...

This made me wonder if Josephus had written about it.
This is what I found.


https://www.livius.org/articles/person/pontius-pilate/pontius-pilate-4/


Flavius Josephus, The Jewish War 2.169-174
Pilate, being sent by Tiberius as prefect to Judaea, introduced into Jerusalem by night and under cover the effigies of Caesar which are called standards.
This proceeding, when day broke, aroused immense excitement among the Jews; those on the spot were in consternation, considering their laws to have been trampled under foot, as those laws permit no image to be erected in the city; while the indignation of the townspeople stirred the countryfolk, who flocked together in crowds.
Hastening after Pilate to Caesarea, the Jews implored him to remove the standards from Jerusalem and to uphold the laws of their ancestors. When Pilate refused, they fell prostrate around his palace and for five whole days and nights remained motionless in that position.


The great stadium,where Pilate addressed the Jewish multitude
On the ensuing day Pilate took his seat on his tribunal in the great stadium and summoning the multitude, with the apparent intention of answering them, gave the arranged signal to his armed soldiers to surround the Jews.
Finding themselves in a ring of troops, three deep, the Jews were struck dumb at this unexpected sight. Pilate, after threatening to cut them down, if they refused to admit Caesar's images, signaled to the soldiers to draw their swords.
Thereupon the Jews, as by concerted action, flung themselves in a body on the ground, extended their necks, and exclaimed that they were ready rather to die than to transgress the law. Overcome with astonishment at such intense religious zeal, Pilate gave orders for the immediate removal of the standards from Jerusalem.

Flavius Josephus, Jewish Antiquities 18.55-59
Now Pilate, the prefect of Judaea, when he brought his army from Caesarea and removed it to winter quarters in Jerusalem, took a bold step in subversion of the Jewish practices, by introducing into the city the busts of the emperor that were attached to the military standards, for our law forbids the making of images.
It was for this reason that the previous prefects, when they entered the city, used standards that had no such ornaments. Pilate was the first to bring the images into Jerusalem and set them up, doing it without the knowledge of the people, for he entered at night.
But when the people discovered it, they went in a throng to Caesarea and for many days entreated him to take away the images. He refused to yield, since to do so would be an outrage to the emperor; however, since they did not cease entreating him, on the sixth day he secretly armed and placed his troops in position, while he himself came to the speaker's stand. This had been constructed in the stadium, which provided concealment for the army that lay in wait.
When the Jews again engaged in supplication, at a pre-arranged signal he surrounded them with his soldiers and threatened to punish them at once with death if they did not put an end to their tumult and return to their own places.
But they, casting themselves prostrate and baring their throats, declared that they had gladly welcomed death rather than make bold to transgress the wise provisions of the laws. Pilate, astonished at the strength of their devotion to the laws, straightway removed the images from Jerusalem and brought them back to Caesarea.

Anonymous said...

How close is today's Jerusalem to a similar episode as the one during Pontius Pilates tenure?
Could an image (icon) or symbol from the International Court or European Union or United Nations perhaps qualify as an image that would amount to an abomination that causes desolation because of edicts and rulings from any of them that is usurping Jewish sovereignty?

The ICC recently came out against Israel for "war crimes". The EU certainly has been throwing it's weight around concerning Israel and the Palestinian Hoax again. Will an opportunity arise to have "armies surrounding Jerusalem" "someone official - an official image? - standing up in a holy spot making big declarative decisions regarding Jerusalem - enforcing rule that could mirror what happened during Pilate's time (as Matt 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 all correspond to talk about an abomination occurring)?

Things are mounting in that area. On one hand peace seems to want to break out in the Middle East (for a limited time no doubt) concerning Israel and her neighbors (except the Palestinians) and certainly Satan can't have that happening (he has a time to fulfill through someone himself), and the fulfillments of the times of the Gentiles are to finish according to Scripture so this all makes me think that perhaps could be leading up to a similar type of event?

Seems at least in the realm of possibility and plausible to me.

Anonymous said...

2:17 PM

I had had the same exact thought about Josephus. Thank you for doing that!

J said...

I tried unsuccessfully to find footnotes to ancient Jewish or Roman historians in B.H. Carroll's work.

I guess the safest bet is to look at the primary historical sources like Josephus.

A pdf is available online. Both Carroll's Daniel and his Revelation commentaries have historical claims about worship of Caesar and images of Caesar.

https://www.grace-ebooks.com/library/B.%20H.%20Carroll/BHC_Index.pdf

RayB said...

Regarding Josephus, or any other historian for that matter:

Scripture tells us "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established." II Corinthians 13:1b

Without corroborating evidence of an additional "two or three witnesses," the "testimony" of an historian is pretty much untrustworthy, and certainly cannot be considered to be evidence or fact.

J said...

RayB,

Good point. Which historians of ancient history do you regard as the most reliable?

Anonymous said...

Flavius Josephus

Legacy

As a historian, Josephus shares the faults of most ancient writers: his analyses are superficial, his chronology faulty, his facts exaggerated, his speeches contrived. He is especially tendentious when his own reputation is at stake. His Greek style, when it is truly his, does not earn for him the epithet “the Greek Livy” that often is attached to his name. Yet he unites in his person the traditions of Judaism and Hellenism, provides a connecting link between the secular world of Rome and the religious heritage of the Bible, and offers many insights into the mentality of subject peoples under the Roman Empire.

Personally, Josephus was vain, callous, and self-seeking. There was not a shred of heroism in his character, and for his toadyism he well deserved the scorn heaped upon him by his countrymen.

https://academic-eb-com.eres.qnl.qa/levels/collegiate/article/Flavius-Josephus/44007

Anonymous said...

Perhaps the most transgressive thing historians of the Jews and Judaism can say is that they like Josephus, author of The Jewish War, about the First Judean Revolt against Rome, completed around 75 CE, and Antiquities of the Jews, a massive account of Jewish history completed about twenty years later. Josephus is the ultimate bad boy, traitor, turncoat of Jewish history. An "apologist" who wrote in Latin and Greek, he's untrustworthy as a person and unreliable as a historian, we're told. In the entire span of Jewish and human history, it would seem, one cannot find a historian worse than Josephus Flavius. Without Josephus's writing, however, we'd know nearly nothing about several centuries of Jewish history. Still, when hearing Josephus's name, grown scholars, serious women and men, allow their eyebrows to crease, their lips to purse. It's like, well, if you mention Hillary Clinton without immediately assuring everyone in sight that "of course she was a very flawed candidate." You can discuss Herod, the horrific Roman-appointed king of the Jews, and eyes will roll, or Haman, and well, we know what happens when Haman's name comes up. But refer to Josephus in polite academic company, and you'll see: both the ancient writer and you will be become objects of scorn.

http://perspectives.ajsnet.org/transgression-issue/meeting-josephus-head-on-and-humanly-a-historians-transgression

RayB said...

J said to RayB (in part) @ 4:37 PM:

"Which historians of ancient history do you regard as the most reliable?"

J,

Reliable as in trust? That is a very loaded question. I'll try to be brief.

Let's consider the writings of Julius Caesar, which are a collection of his own written reports regarding his military campaigns, that ultimately made their way back to the Roman Senate. Caesar, like many other Roman Generals throughout Roman history, was also a politician, which means that although much of what Caesar writes about is verifiable history, Caesar also had a self-serving purpose, which included portraying himself as a heroic figure. Does this taint Caesar's account somewhat? Does it make it unreliable? Not really. But, while reading his account, the reader should take into account that this is the history that CAESAR wanted to write; his enemies in the field had no input whatsoever in this "history." As its been said repeatedly; "History is written by the victors."

On the other hand, Marcus Aurelius, a Roman Emperor in the 2nd. Century, wrote his "Meditations," a compilation of his personal observations regarding current events, along with his many enumerations regarding his stoic, traditional, Roman philosophy. Although it is not known for sure, it appears that Aurelius wrote his Meditations more or less as a personal diary. I recall that when I read it (around 25 years ago), I had the sense that the writer was being very honest with himself while recording his observations and his thoughts. In other words, unlike Caesar, there didn't appear to be anything that was self-serving in nature, making it, in my mind at least, more trustworthy than Caesar's writings.

RayB said...

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J said...

My understanding is that Josephus doesn't always stand alone as one witness to the history of the Roman Jewish wars. Frequently, but not always, I have observed both Josephus and Tacitus being cited together.

Tacitus wrote about the Jews. Some of what he wrote is comical and mythical, but he does mention the exodus out of Egypt and the subsequent wandering in the wilderness. He says "most authorities" agree on the following:

[3] Most authorities, however, agree on the following account. The whole of Egypt was once plagued by a wasting disease which caused bodily disfigurement. So pharaoh Bocchorisnote went to the oracle of Hammonnote to ask for a cure, and was told to purify his kingdom by expelling the victims to other lands, as they lay under a divine curse. Thus a multitude of sufferers was rounded up, herded together, and abandoned in the wilderness. Here the exiles tearfully resigned themselves to their fate. But one of them, who was called Moses, urged his companions not to wait passively for help from god or man, for both had deserted them: they should trust to their own initiative and to whatever guidance first helped them to extricate themselves from their present plight. They agreed, and started off at random into the unknown. But exhaustion set in, chiefly through lack of water, and the level plain was already strewn with the bodies of those who had collapsed and were at their last gasp when a herd of wild asses left their pasture and made for the spade of a wooded crag. Moses followed them and was able to bring to light a number of abundant channels of water whose presence he had deduced from a grassy patch of ground. This relieved their thirst. They traveled on for six days without a break, and on the seventh they expelled the previous inhabitants of Canaan, took over their lands and in them built a holy city and temple.

I'm sure people who study in seminaries have long studied this ancient history and these ancient historians.

I haven't studied it much (based on the ancient primary sources concerning the first century AD), and I doubt if anybody else here has studied it much, either. If I'm mistaken, somebody can correct me and weigh in with what they know.

I'm not going to say anything further on the topic until I study it more, myself.

J said...

I forgot to provide my link to the Tacitus quote: https://www.livius.org/sources/content/tacitus/tacitus-on-the-jews/

RayB said...


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RayB said...

J,

I'd like to point out that there are several distinct errors in the "historian" Tacitus's brief quote that you cited above. Here is the quote in question from above:

"But one of them, who was called Moses, urged his companions not to wait passively for help from god or man, for both had deserted them: they should trust to their own initiative and to whatever guidance first helped them to extricate themselves from their present plight."

Moses NEVER said to the people that "god" had deserted them. It was THEY that deserted God, as evidenced by their constant complaining and disobedience, which lasted the entire time of their 40 year sojourn in the wilderness. Tacitus's account is in direct conflict with that which is recorded in Exodus.

Tacitus goes on to say: "Moses followed them and was able to bring to light a number of abundant channels of water whose presence he had deduced from a grassy patch of ground." Tacitus's account is a far cry from what really happened:

"And the people thirsted there for water; and the people murmured against Moses, and said, Wherefore is this that thou hast brought us up out of Egypt, to kill us and our children and our cattle with thirst?"

"And Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, What shall I do unto this people? they be almost ready to stone me."

"And the LORD said unto Moses, Go on before the people, and take with thee of the elders of Israel; and thy rod, wherewith thou smotest the river, take in thine hand, and go."

"Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel." Exodus 17:3-6

J said...

Of course, RayB. To be clear, I didn't mean to suggest that the history of Tacitus should be given more authority than Scripture. I was showing that he got some facts of Jewish history right. It wasn't his beliefs that were pertinent. He confirmed the existence of Moses and the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt. The objections you took issue with, are nothing compared to the paragraph just preceding it, if you click on the link. I thought I already explained that he believed in laughable myths. Wouldn't you have to expect that from an ancient Greek or Roman historian?

J said...

To be clear, my main point was that maybe Tacitus can confirm some facts and observations -- not beliefs -- that were also documented by Josephus. It was in response to your quote from Scripture about the need for two or three witnesses. Then the conversation seemed to have morphed into a different grounds of consideration (an argument with an imaginary theological liberal?).

J said...

Anyway, like I said, I'm still studying it, and I'm not doing this all from my private interpretation with no conservative Christian authoritative guidance. I've already mentioned RC Sproul as one of my influences. Apparently I'm less liberal than Jonathan Edwards was, historically, in American Christianity.

I'm just going to go back to quietly studying this. I'm not ready to stand up and have a high school debate about this whole subject. I will let you have the last word regarding this whole subject, RayB.

J said...

P.S. In some regards I'm also less liberal a Christian in my eschatology than the American Puritans were. Study their eschatology some time.

J said...

Milo sounded very Catholic in this interview, and I'm not Catholic; but I loved it when he said, "Check your pride, not your privilege." And I thought he was very brave to come out of the closet as an ex-gay.

Activist Milo Yiannopoulos is now ‘Ex-Gay,’ consecrating his life to St. Joseph

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/activist-milo-yiannopoulos-is-now-ex-gay-consecrating-his-life-to-st-joseph

Anonymous said...

Thanks J.

Yes, we have to delve to verify things and secular sources simply do not have the veracity of Scripture, so it is definitely "chew the meat and spit out the bones".

RayB, perhaps you are overdoing your point. Is a good point, but some sources are going to be secular because the Bible is quiet on some, many, things. Take it as it is, make room for the unknowns we can't exactly know at the time, I say. We weren't there, so somethings are not going to be fully known to us until something is fulfilled that Scripture said and in it's proper time, so men's view of history may, or may not, back it up. (Imagine today's "journalists" turned loose on these Bible topics if we think ancient history is at times, problematic!)

Critical thinking with the discernment of the Spirit of God, illuminating God's Word, and waiting for the Lord to reveal further, will never fail to guide us.

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J said...

Anonymous 4:08 PM,

You're right that much mystery remains. John was told to seal up the things he heard the seven thunders say.


Revelation 10:1-4
New King James Version
The Mighty Angel with the Little Book

10 I saw still another mighty angel coming down from heaven, clothed with a cloud. And a rainbow was on his head, his face was like the sun, and his feet like pillars of fire. 2 He had a little book open in his hand. And he set his right foot on the sea and his left foot on the land, 3 and cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roars. When he cried out, seven thunders uttered their voices. 4 Now when the seven thunders [a]uttered their voices, I was about to write; but I heard a voice from heaven saying [b]to me, “Seal up the things which the seven thunders uttered, and do not write them.”

paul said...

J,
I don't know exactly why, but I've been led to memorize that chapter recently, so your posting those verses seems very interesting to me. In fact I have memorized that whole chapter, and the following one, chapter 11, keeping in mind that there were no chapter designations originally. I must have read those verses a hundred times. I've read various versions, too, though the KJV is the best.
And now that I have those chapters written in my mind, I have to admit that I really don't understand what it all means. In fact I have more questions than answers about them. I do believe that those two chapters go together with no breaks, though.
The angel with his feet on the sea and the earth is the seventh of a series of seven angels. As you know, there are seven Churches. Then seven seals. Then seven angels, seven thunders, seven trumpets, then seven vials of seven plagues.
The South African teacher/preacher Walter Vieth has pointed out that there is a pattern to these sevens, where the first six things happen and then there is a "pause?", and an illumination of things before the seventh one happens. The verses you cite above, are at that pause before the seventh angel sounds, which he does in chapter 11.
One thing I have come to believe is that St John the Revelator is going to be one of the Two Witnesses. We always hear about Elijah and Moses, and Enoch, but I feel strongly that, based on the last verse of the chapter you quoted from, where the seventh angel tells John that he "must prophesy before many peoples and nations and tongues and kings", and then in the next chapter we meet the two witnesses, and they are prophesying near the end of the world, to the peoples who dwell on the earth.
There's so much packed into these verses! I notice that the first four verses of Chapter 10 are really just one long run-on sentence. And certain phrases are repeated over and over, like; how the Angel has "his feet on the sea and the earth" and "peoples and nations and kindred and kings" and the use of the word "great" in chapter 11, as in "great fear" and a "great voice", and "great earthquake", and "great voices", and "great power", and "great hail" . And chapter 12 continues; "great wonder", and "great red dragon", and "great wrath" and "a great eagle". You get the idea.

I see patterns and repetitions, but I just can't really wrap my mind around it all and come up with a sort of unified field theory.
One thing I do deeply cherish and cling to is another long sentence in chapter 11:18-19.
"And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, both small and great, and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth."

I hope and believe that I can see my sorry self in there somewhere.
Also I love how, at a time when the enemies of the Lord are busy posturing and posing as if they are the defenders of the planet Earth, that they are only thinking politically and that God doesn't need their help at all. Christians through the ages have always been very much concerned about caring for the planet and being good stewards of the gifts that The Lord has given us.
"The earth is the Lord's and the fulness thereof"

Anonymous said...

◄ Revelation 10 ►

The Angel and the Small Scroll

1·Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven, surrounded by a cloud, with a rainbow over his head. His face shone like the sun, and his feet were like pillars of fire. 2·And in his hand was a small scroll that had been opened. He stood with his right foot on the sea and his left foot on the land. 3·And he gave a great shout like the roar of a lion. And when he shouted, the seven thunders answered.

4·When the seven thunders spoke, I was about to write. But I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Keep secret what the seven thunders said, and do not write it down.”

5·Then the angel I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised his right hand toward heaven. 6·He swore an oath in the name of the one who lives forever and ever, who created the heavens and everything in them, the earth and everything in it, and the sea and everything in it. He said, “There will be no more delay. 7·When the seventh angel blows his trumpet, God’s mysterious plan will be fulfilled. It will happen just as he announced it to his servants the prophets.”

8·Then the voice from heaven spoke to me again: “Go and take the open scroll from the hand of the angel who is standing on the sea and on the land.”

9·So I went to the angel and told him to give me the small scroll. “Yes, take it and eat it,” he said. “It will be sweet as honey in your mouth, but it will turn sour in your stomach!” 10·So I took the small scroll from the hand of the angel, and I ate it! It was sweet in my mouth, but when I swallowed it, it turned sour in my stomach.

11·Then I was told, “You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, languages, and kings.”

◄ Revelation 11 ►

The Two Witnesses

1·Then I was given a measuring stick, and I was told, “Go and measure the Temple of God and the altar, and count the number of worshipers. 2·But do not measure the outer courtyard, for it has been turned over to the nations. They will trample the holy city for 42 months. 3·And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will be clothed in burlap and will prophesy during those 1,260 days.”

4·These two prophets are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of all the earth. 5·If anyone tries to harm them, fire flashes from their mouths and consumes their enemies. This is how anyone who tries to harm them must die. 6·They have power to shut the sky so that no rain will fall for as long as they prophesy. And they have the power to turn the rivers and oceans into blood, and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they wish.

7·When they complete their testimony, the beast that comes up out of the bottomless pita will declare war against them, and he will conquer them and kill them. 8·And their bodies will lie in the main street of Jerusalem,b the city that is figuratively called “Sodom” and “Egypt,” the city where their Lord was crucified. 9·And for three and a half days, all peoples, tribes, languages, and nations will stare at their bodies. No one will be allowed to bury them. 10·All the people who belong to this world will gloat over them and give presents to each other to celebrate the death of the two prophets who had tormented them.

11·But after three and a half days, God breathed life into them, and they stood up! Terror struck all who were staring at them. 12·Then a loud voice from heaven called to the two prophets, “Come up here!” And they rose to heaven in a cloud as their enemies watched.

13·At the same time there was a terrible earthquake that destroyed a tenth of the city. Seven thousand people died in that earthquake, and everyone else was terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14·The second terror is past, but look, the third terror is coming quickly.

Anonymous said...

The Seventh Trumpet Brings the Third Terror

15·Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices shouting in heaven: “The world has now become the Kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ and he will reign forever and ever.”

16·The twenty-four elders sitting on their thrones before God fell with their faces to the ground and worshiped him.

17·And they said, “We give thanks to you, Lord God, the Almighty, the one who is and who always was, for now you have assumed your great power and have begun to reign.

18·The nations were filled with wrath, but now the time of your wrath has come. It is time to judge the dead and reward your servants the prophets, as well as your holy people, and all who fear your name, from the least to the greatest. It is time to destroy all who have caused destruction on the earth.”

19·Then, in heaven, the Temple of God was opened and the Ark of his covenant could be seen inside the Temple. Lightning flashed, thunder crashed and roared, and there was an earthquake and a terrible hailstorm.

◄ Revelation 12 ►

The Woman and the Dragon

1·Then I witnessed in heaven an event of great significance. I saw a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon beneath her feet, and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2·She was pregnant, and she cried out because of her labor pains and the agony of giving birth.

3·Then I witnessed in heaven another significant event. I saw a large red dragon with seven heads and ten horns, with seven crowns on his heads. 4·His tail swept away one-third of the stars in the sky, and he threw them to the earth. He stood in front of the woman as she was about to give birth, ready to devour her baby as soon as it was born.

5·She gave birth to a son who was to rule all nations with an iron rod. And her child was snatched away from the dragon and was caught up to God and to his throne. 6·And the woman fled into the wilderness, where God had prepared a place to care for her for 1,260 days.

7·Then there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon and his angels. 8·And the dragon lost the battle, and he and his angels were forced out of heaven. 9·This great dragon—the ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, the one deceiving the whole world—was thrown down to the earth with all his angels.

10·Then I heard a loud voice shouting across the heavens, “It has come at last— salvation and power and the Kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ For the accuser of our brothers and sisters has been thrown down to earth— the one who accuses them before our God day and night.

11·And they have defeated him by the blood of the Lamb and by their testimony. And they did not love their lives so much that they were afraid to die.

12·Therefore, rejoice, O heavens! And you who live in the heavens, rejoice! But terror will come on the earth and the sea, for the devil has come down to you in great anger, knowing that he has little time.”

13·When the dragon realized that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14·But she was given two wings like those of a great eagle so she could fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness. There she would be cared for and protected from the dragon for a time, times, and half a time.

15·Then the dragon tried to drown the woman with a flood of water that flowed from his mouth. 16·But the earth helped her by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that gushed out from the mouth of the dragon. 17·And the dragon was angry at the woman and declared war against the rest of her children—all who keep God’s commandments and maintain their testimony for Jesus.

Anonymous said...

i'm using this thread because I wanted to be as "recent' as possible. Two questions to Constance &/or any reader(s):
1/ Does anyone know if Javier Solona (sp?) is connected with the Solona blockchain? 2/ What is your take on the possible use of blockchain technology with regard to the "mark" in Revelation ?

Anonymous said...

7:20 PM

Good questions!


(BTW It's Solana not Solona.)

#1) Doesn't look like it, his name's not mentioned:

Founders Alan Yu, Anatoly Yakovenko, Greg Fitzgerald, Raj Gokal, Stephen Akridge

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/solana-io

#2) Check these various links out at:

https://www.duckduckgo.com/blockchain-mark-of-the-beast

Anonymous said...

More:

https://www.duckduckgo.com/bitcoin-mark-of-the-beast

J said...

Anonymous 11:13 AM,

Your bolded comment about obedience made me wonder about the context you had in mind. I would like to open up a conversation about the context and get your thoughts about it.

I believe the New Testament writers were very clear that spiritual obedience to Jesus under the New Covenant did not equate to physical obedience to the Old Covenant rules (like circumcision, for instance).

Do you agree with that?

I further believe that opposing faith to obedience is false. Faith itself is an act of obedience. I believe some of the New Testament passages that have been taken to state that man has no free will, are not about man's free will at all. In context, these passages are really about God's free will.

I say this because of previous debates about this subject on this blog that have intermittently popped up.

I believe that faith is inseparable from comprehending Jesus' work on the cross to abolish the Old Covenant and usher in a New Covenant. Part of faith is comprehending that the Old Testament was foreshadowing Jesus' work on the cross because God doesn't lie and He is the same yesterday, today and forever.

Even Adam and Eve were foreshadowing Jesus. The bride of Jesus is the church. On the cross, water and blood flowed from his side. The bride of Adam was Eve. She was taken from his side.

Anonymous said...

Israelis: Do you see non Jews as equal to you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOFRNGlEB6k


This is the reason Palestinian Christians (many of whom are genetically Jewish) are being murdered, robbed and persecuted in Israel.

Anonymous said...

J

Thank you for your interest. This is all I intend to reply:

The bolded statement stands on its own. It is highlighting that God's (rather than man's) definition of who His people are are those who actually obey Him in practice and not just in theory. If one takes all of the Bible and impartially harmonizes all of the verses together that pertain to a given subject of interest (including commandments, doctrines, etc.) so that they point the way to correct understanding (whether a person initially likes that understanding or not) then one is on the road to Truth.

Unknown said...

J,
You said: "I believe that faith is inseparable from comprehending Jesus' work on the cross to abolish the Old Covenant and usher in a New Covenant."

I may be being too picky here, because I'm sure your heart is in the right place, but...
Jesus said: "Think not that I have come to destroy the Law, or the Prophets. I have not come to destroy, but to fulfill."

paul said...

Sorry the above is me, paul.

Anonymous said...

Paul,

Yes indeed. He exemplified them.

Although many try to get around His clear words and claim that His fulfillment means that's all "done away" we don't have any obligations but to 'believe on Him'.

Which would, if true, translate His meaning to be:

"Think not that I have come to destroy the Law, or the Prophets. I have not come to destroy, but to destroy."

LOL

J said...

That's what my parents believe, and they are keeping the 7 Days of Unleavened Bread this month. I kept it in my childhood.

I didn't eat shrimp or catfish or pork or other things.

To be clear, are you saying that you keep all of these ancient Hebrew holy days, too?

Are you saying you don't eat most seafood aside from fish, and not every kind of fish? And you never eat pork?

These were the teachings of the Worldwide Church of God.

I didn't color valentines at school in art class on Valentine's Day. I didn't sing along with Christmas songs in music class.

Do you also forbid your children to do these things, if you have them?

J said...

My brother's first fiance broke off their engagement because he thought it was sinful to celebrate Christmas.

I'm not going to belabor the point anymore.

People have to do as their conscience bids them, and I can't say I have a perfect understanding.

I do know my own beliefs are considerably different than my parents' beliefs.

I respect if people are doing their best to be consistent with their belief (as long as they are not a suicide bomber or a Luciferian, of course).

Anonymous said...

3:56 PM,

Playing dishonest semantics is obviously your passion. It is not, however, your strong point.

Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law and when He died on the cross he said, 'it is finished', because he had indeed brought that which was incomplete to completion. He fulfilled the law. The law of Moses was merely a foreshadowing of the wonderful work Jesus Christ did on the cross. Do you want to deny Jesus Christ and return to sacrificing mere lambs and red heifers?

Do you dismiss the words of the Holy Spirit to Peter and thereby do you call common and unclean that which God has cleansed?

We are to be circumcised of the heart and spiritual heirs of Abraham. That which is of the flesh shall not enter Heaven. You must be born again. For there is no difference between Greek [Gentile] or Jew, nor between male and female, for those in Christ Jesus. Or will you now bow down to those ungodly racists, following their, 'Noahide / Noachide laws', who call themselves jews but are of the synagogue of Satan?

Anonymous said...

6:25 PM

Keep comforting your conscience by conjuring up your twisted and contrived loaded questions and you may one day succeed in completely convincing yourself.

A goal to strive for, surely! LOL

Anonymous said...

A Coming Covid Catastrophe (must see video)

https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2021/03/a-coming-covid-catastrophe-3744703.html


J said...

Anonymous 12:55 PM,

If one takes all of the Bible and impartially harmonizes all of the verses together that pertain to a given subject of interest (including commandments, doctrines, etc.) so that they point the way to correct understanding (whether a person initially likes that understanding or not) then one is on the road to Truth.

I agree with you. I don't think Revelation can be understood apart from the rest of the Bible. One of the interesting things about Revelation is that it contains over 500 references to the Old Testament. As you put it so well, "impartially harmonizing all the verses together that pertain to a given subject of interest" is important to exegesis.

It may be wiser to read Revelation with a Bible in one hand, and a Bible in the other hand -- as opposed to a Bible in one hand, and a newspaper in the other.

J said...

Paul 2:58 and 3:00 PM,

I may be being too picky here, because I'm sure your heart is in the right place, but...
Jesus said: "Think not that I have come to destroy the Law, or the Prophets. I have not come to destroy, but to fulfill."


Thank you, and I'm sure your heart is also in the right place. Jesus' statement you highlighted is definitely not uniformly agreed upon as to its meaning theologically. I didn't know how to take it until recently when I began to believe in partial preterism. Then it became consistent to me.

My understanding is that nothing of the law would stop applying until Jesus' work on the cross was finished. My belief is that the last century BC and the first century AD were transitional times between the old and new covenants. My belief is that John the Baptist told us about this, and we need to believe what he said. My understanding is that Acts 4 told us, and we need to believe it. Even many Old Testament prophets told us what Jesus would really do, and we need to believe them.

I'm not a theologian, and I still have a long ways to go in comprehensively understanding the entire Bible. It's possible that a year from now I could realize that I had some things wrong. Right now I feel relieved that the entire thing seems fully consistent to me, taking them all at their plainly spoken words, and believing Jesus when He said to His generation that He would come quickly. Believing Him when He said the Kingdom of God was at hand. And believing so many other things.

Dispensationalism is not internally consistent at all, and it requires calling the OT God and the NT Jesus liars, IMO.

J said...

Note: by calling the last century BC a transitional time I was only thinking of John the Baptist as a transitional prophet and thinking he must have been born before Jesus. But I probably shouldn't count when he was born, only when he started prophesying. I think I will scratch that about the last century BC. I think now I only want to say the first century AD was a transitional time between old and new covenants.

J said...

Matthew 5:18

New King James Version

"For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled."

If you look at the OT prophets, they use talk of heaven and earth as covenant language.

Here is an example of references to heaven and earth in OT covenant language, and a search will bring up more examples.

Isaiah 51:15-16
New King James Version

15
But I am the Lord your God,
Who divided the sea whose waves roared—
The Lord of hosts is His name.
16
And I have put My words in your mouth;
I have covered you with the shadow of My hand,
That I may [a]plant the heavens,
Lay the foundations of the earth,
And say to Zion, ‘You are My people.’ ”

J said...

Note: One more thing to be mindful of about the Old Testament language is that the "earth" means the "land" or the covenant nation of Israel.

Anonymous said...

MCE's Res. Seer's conjuring of ether blobs is caught on camera by neighbors. 5:13 - 5:36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdjqCGJQVow

J said...

Paul 8:38 AM,

Also I love how, at a time when the enemies of the Lord are busy posturing and posing as if they are the defenders of the planet Earth, that they are only thinking politically and that God doesn't need their help at all. Christians through the ages have always been very much concerned about caring for the planet and being good stewards of the gifts that The Lord has given us.
"The earth is the Lord's and the fulness thereof"


The environmentalist groups are mostly funded by NGOs, although they collect membership dues. Some of these enviro groups and NGOs have been found to be in bed with the very people ruining and pillaging some of the lands in places like Africa.

I always feel like the Left is very good at being the devil coming as the angel of light. To the naive, it can make one who opposes them, seem to be choosing the bad side.

From an elite perspective, they get it all. They get resource extraction, they manufacture a crisis, and they manufacture the solution presented by the opportunity of the crisis. They get to spread their money around for a tax break and become lauded as charitable.

Sometimes the crisis is real and sometimes it's more of a perception.

The Green New Deal certainly seems underway in the U.S. now that Biden is in. Spending on green energy doesn't really have a good track record of being a good return on investment or creating a lot of good jobs.

Anonymous said...

J,
Hi. I think you are right. And the same goes for the Covid debacle too. A real virus but twisted to be a political usurp, much more deadly to sovereignty and freedom than to actual people with a survival rate so high I am at a loss to see why it is hailed as a pandemic at all (except for the poor folks used as pawns by Cuomo and his like). And the right and reasonable and actual cost effective measures and medicines to prevent it from being even as deadly as it has been for the minority of people, among the world's 8 billion people effected that way, was breached with a huge plan for vaccines, well, because.."science". How convenient such brilliant planning was in place by those so much concerned for us all to save us from ourselves, and yes, intend to "save the planet" too. The elites sure found it very helpful to their pocketbooks and to their social engineering plans for everyone across the globe. What a power boost they achieved.

Coupling the two, Covid response and Climate change, together gives them an opportunity to make a great big deal out of the great big reset they have in place nd ready for action. I am saddened at how the masses have so easily and quickly complied. The economies need to grind to a halt so their new world economy can pick up that slack. Killing our jobs because we are "sick and have to distance" (and vote by fraud in mail-in balloting), and "save the environment" too, is a double whammy.
Aren't they something, these folks who know better than God?

What I am thankful to know and understand from the Bible, is their plans have a shelf life.
And they (the unrepentant elites) will get what's coming to them.

Truly the world is the Lord's and the fullness thereof....and God's plan for the world's people's are His to do with as He has seen fit...from the beginning....

The Gospel (the real one) is still in force, praise God, for those who humble themselves and get onboard God's Plan.

Anonymous said...

Rev 6:2

And I saw. and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown(corona) was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Craig said...

I’ve been very busy of late and have not made any comments in quite a while. Here I will make a few brief statements.

1. A while ago “X” attributed an ‘anon’ commenter’s comment about snow to me. I didn’t make the comment.

2. As to J’s comments re: partial preterism, I’ll offer brief comment. First of all, I don’t believe in dividing over differing views of eschatology, so I won’t. That said, though I’m not opposed to the idea of partial preterism in general, I remain unconvinced that the mark of the beast had been fulfilled in the 1st century. I’m aware that some claim Nero is/was ‘666’ (or even ‘616’), but I find this a stretch. Looking at the data, one must make certain concessions to make the number fit. Specifically, one must take ‘Nero Caesar’ from the Greek, transliterate each letter to the corresponding Hebrew, and then use Hebraic gematria to arrive at “666”. The problem, as I see it, is that John the Revelator wrote in Greek, and it seems much more plausible that the name should fit the Greek isopsephy method instead of the more convoluted transliteration to Hebrew then using gematria. (See David Aune’s WBC commentary for the relevant data, though the author himself does not commit to particular stance.)

The Nero ‘solution’ also, IMO, fails to consider that ALL must receive this mark to buy or sell. I don’t see how this was possible in the 1st century, but it’s VERY possible now, as we have the requisite technology. We only lack the worldwide power structure to mandate it, but that is quickly coming into place via The Great Reset.

All the above said, I think partial preterism and a certain amount of futuristic eschatology is the answer—though I’m not saying I have THE answer. Could it be DUAL fulfillment of some with others awaiting fulfillment? I don’t know.

3. As to Rev 6:2 as “corona” (as in ‘coronavirus’), I’ve seen this a number of times, and I find it quite dubious. The relevant Greek word is (transliterated) stephanos (the same is used as the name for Stephen, the first Christian martyr in Acts), which is best understood as “wreath”, as in one made of, or designed to resemble, foliage. In the book of Revelation, the term is also found in 2:10, 3:11, 4:4, 4:10, 9:7, 12:1, and 14:14. It’s also used of the ‘crown of thorns’ put on Jesus during the Passion.

The term is even used in modern Greek for this type of wreath: translate.google.com/?sl=en&tl=el&text=wreath&op=translate

Anonymous said...

So what is the significance of this wreath that is given to the rider on the white horse? How does this relate to the conquering?

Anonymous said...

A thought came to mind just after I posted my question @ 5:59 PM. Wreaths are hand made. Wasn't this virus hand made, and adorned/enhanced with other add-ons? It certainly has been a tool for conquering, and to a greater degree than ever before.

Craig said...

Anon 5:59/6:07,

I suppose with enough force one can make a square peg fit in a round hole.

Look at the contexts of the other verses I referenced in Revelation for an idea of the use of the term in 6:2.

Anonymous said...

Later in Revelation Jesus Himself comes on a white horse. He comes as a warrior and will strike down His evil foe. Ends the battle so peace can come. I wonder what does the white horse symbolize?
And wonder is the rider of the white horse in Revelation 6:2 one bringing false ideas of peace with him? Is this the counterfeit version in a sense coming and conquering a whole different way?
Is his bow a bow for a bow and arrow or is it another kind of bow--as in a rainbow??--which is a symbol of "peace" but the agenda behind the rainbow today is anything but real peace (God having said "I do set My bow in the cloud" hijacking that symbol for these times we are in by a counterfeit?), it is a ploy instead to be someone rather like the devil but comes as an "angel of light" (enlightenment)? Make love not war became the anthem of the rebellious 60's and the "love" generations that followed the hippie movement paved the way for all the progressive agendas since then that we have today. Those of the all the varied extreme agendas that are in vogue now have been "crowned" by the media and the elites, as the bearers of truth for the world and it's survival and future, and have been winning, conquering if you will, with more conquering on the way as this plays out.

Just thinking out loud here and wonder if anyone else sees parallels of these sorts?

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