I was employed on the Speaker's Staff of the Michigan House of Representatives in 1970, the year of the first Earth Day. Far and away, the most visible figure on Earth Day, the man who claimed to have come up with its very notion, was Ira Einhorn. He was in those days clearly a New Age superstar operating on an international level with impressive corporate backers.
The New Age historical revisionists would now have you believe that the most prominent figures were Denis Hayes and Gaylord Nelson. They have conveniently tried to distance themselves from Ira Einhorn and with very good reason: Ira Einhorn is now imprisoned for life for the murder of his New Age lover, Texas native and Bryn Mawr graduate Holly Maddux.
There is a lot of current attention given to the proposed release of one of the Charles Manson cult killers, Leslie van Houten, being approved for parole. Manson was not the only psychotic cult leader in the New Age Movement of the 1970s. Ira Einhorn had then and still now a loyal following of those who refused to believe he could perform actions he clearly earlier telegraphed he would perform.
"Psychopaths like myself emerge when societies are about to change," Einhorn told his enraptured audiences to whom he oft boasted he was a "planetary enzyme." In that same speech he proclaimed himself a "brother with Charles Manson The best place to read the about that is Steven Levy's well documented book, THE UNICORN'S SECRET: MURDER IN THE AGE OF AQUARIUS. (Page 377, mass paperback edition)..
Einhorn was fraternizing with the nephew of the Shah of Iran, "speaking to an intimate gathering sponsored by the prince" (p. 13, supra). Per Levy, Einhorn was given high academic credentials, as a fellow in the Kennedy School of Government. Einhorn even had 1970 articles publishe dby the Catholic Art Association.
We have more than Levy's impressive and still necessary reading book. I discovered that in my own library, accumulated during my years of research, I had a copy of Einhorn's post Earth Day, pre-1979 arrest book, 78-187880. It is a strange, crudely put together book from appearances, BUT, it was published by a major publishing house Doubleday & Company as a "Doubleday Anchor book." Its Libtary of Congress Catalog Card number is 78-187880 -- same as the title of the book.
78-187880 had many not so subtle hints to those who had eyes to see and ears to hear. Many swastikas are positively pictured throughout it. The New Age oft stated goals of population reduction to a maximum of 2 billion only alive by the year 2000 are contained within the covers.
Later this morning, (10 am Eastern time, 7 am Pacific time) I will be doing my regular internet radio program on TMERadio.com. We will be discussing this -- for now I'm retiring for the night and hope you will join me in the morning. Now that "Bill Nye the Science Guy" is openly calling for criminalizing "climate change deniers", we need to review both the foundations and current thrust of the radical Gaia Gang.
Does YOUR church celebrate Earth Day? Join me in later this morning and we'll talk about it.
Constance
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Your as nuts as your cult sister! And just as nasty.
There simply is no complete discussion of New Age without discussion of the nasty satanic cult you love!
The screaming you hear Ms. Erikson is the screams in your own head.
Alien screams, psychic screams, occultic screams, gnostic pagan religion screams, malcontented and unrequited sex screams, unlawful marriage screams, sectarian hierarchial institutionist screams, paranormal screams, (oh my, I can keep going...) but it is all coming from a woman who won't work at an honest job for an honest day's wage. Won't get off her arse and get a real life among just regular, real people. Just go to work, just go to church, just live a life grateful for what you have and what you don't.....just life lived on the top side of the earth that says you are glad to be alive.
But what we witness is this too much time on her hands, nothing worthwhile happening at her address apparently, so the screams in her head drive her to post redundantly, excessively, angrily, shamelesly, and oh so proudly, while her manipulative mind and hard heart look for others to blame it all on!!!!!!!!!!
What a nightmare. Ms. Erikson, no wonder you leave such chaos in your wake. Your private screams continually screeching here at a blog just trying to grapple with big picture issues we all face in this world, and you selfishly make it all about you in this public forum. from the sounds of it you are no better than, no different than the mother you hate who raised you.
You learned those tactics real well. And you use us here at this blog for target practice to shoot your malcontent arrows at non-stop.
You don't need this blog, you need a hospital. Better than that, go to the Great Physician and take the cure.
I did. You can too, but you'll have to lose that devilish pride you cling to so desperately.
I prayed for you this morning.
You're in a bad way, but this isn't the place to deal with it.
10:36 A.M.
The Pharisee and the Tax Collector
10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”
Luke 18:10-14New International Version (NIV)
It's not only Constance's eye glasses that are broken.
Her blog is broken, and 'WISHING', the squabbling, "would stop", will not make it do so!
Not as long as nearly incorrigible Christine, will not abide by Constance's oft repeated requests for relevant, one per day, posts.
Your problems, Constance, are your own fault, for prefering your Pharisee brethren, and detesting those who trust in Christ alone.
10:57A.M.
Re: Alien screams, psychic screams, occultic screams, gnostic pagan religion screams, malcontented and unrequited sex screams, unlawful marriage screams, sectarian hierarchial institutionist screams, paranormal screams, (oh my, I can keep going...)
I prayed for you this morning.
You're in a bad way, but this isn't the place to deal with it.
*************************
Maybe you ought to save a few of those prayers for yourself. If Christine is PRESENTLY committing the sexual sin of fornication ( and she has said that she is not ), it is wrong to be sure.
But while sins of the flesh are the most shameful sins, they are not the most dangerous sins. Spiritual pride such as yours is the most dangerous sin.....because the person guilty of this sin thinks himself far more "holy" than everyone else, refuses to acknowledge himself as a sinner and calls God a liar.
I do not see any humble beating of the breast( Luke 18:13) in your posts.
Paul asked if the Cumbey blog has been replaced by the "Sordid Details of the
Life of a Grandiose Malcontent" ? No, it's the Moody Bible Institute Student Blog.
11:23 AM
As I see it, there is only one person who can do anything about it.
11;12 AM
You sir, exalt yourself, and your satanized cult.
If YOU had humility, you would recognize your only need is The Humble Savior!
But your ego feels the need to be fed by your religion.
You, like the father of lies, enjoy twisting truth.
11:18 AM
I agree. And if Constance ever does decide to get into the banning mood the first persons she should ban from her blog is you and YOUR self-righteous creepy Pharisee brethren who hypocritically pretend to "trust in Christ alone" while imitating the accuser of the brethren (a.k.a. the devil).
The 11:21 AM post, brought you you by MR. SPIRITUAL PRIDE.
You, like you fellow cultists here, do so love to twist truth!
It's your only weapon!
"You don't need this blog, you need a hospital. Better than that, go to the Great Physician and take the cure.
I did. You can too, but you'll have to lose that devilish pride you cling to so desperately.
I prayed for you this morning.
You're in a bad way, but this isn't the place to deal with it.
10:57 AM"
See what you missed 11:21 AM?
I've been in a bad way myself, but I took the Cure. His name is Jesus.
External religiousness isn't fixing that poor woman's problems. If it was, she would have already had her solution to her many spiritual and emotional ills long time ago. She needs the Internal Cleanse provided by Jesus' Cross to wash away her many sins and troubles. Are you one in need that way yourself? You can determine that one. I can only speak for myself.
11:35 AM
It is truly sad how you make a fool of yourself.
11:33 AM
What I "recognize" is that YOUR pathetic little ego is not content with practicing your own faith and minding your own business. That would not be exciting enough for you. JESUS ALONE is not exciting enough for you - however much you might "preach" otherwise to everyone here. That is why anti-Catholicism (and I will add anti-Orthodoxy ) is called "pornography for Protestants" ( although not all Protestants indulge. Most are very decent and good ).
Your pathetic little ego needs to be fed with digging up dirt on others - including other Protestants who disagree with you - in order to make yourself feel "superior." Your pathetic little ego needs to be fed with attacking the religious beliefs of others as an antidote to the DOUBTS and UNCERTAINTIES you have about your own religious beliefs.
Unlike you, I don't have to attack your religion in order to feel more certain of my own. All I have to do is to look at the glaring self-contradictions of your nasty little cult in order to know that it can be safely IGNORED!!!
11:49AM
HOW PROFOUND! Name-calling simply translates to mean YOU LOSE! THANK YOU!
11:41 AM
Re: "I can only speak for myself."
Then why don't you?
11:50 AM
I don't have a 'religion'.
To you, "self-righteous creepy Pharisee" isn't "name calling"???? LOL
Is hypocrisy a virtue amongst your ilk?
Oh, that's right, it is!
I gave a thumbnail explanation because I don't parade my life here at this blog. I go to straight to the Top, Jesus, (going in prayer every day with my own lacks for Him to fill). Many are on my prayer list because I see deep spiritual need everywhere.
I did not self-righteously promote my own self-prescribed solutions (hammer them like C. Erikson does), I simply pointed to her problems (sorry but she is responsible for her proud and loud parade here) and posed the actual solution, Jesus himself. The only One with every grace to help in time of need. Hopefully, you have read that in the Bible for yourself...
Am I your enemy because I tell you the truth is what Apostle Paul said.
Is this a place where the truth can't or shouldn't be spoken?
Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Those are his words, not mine. She needs a way off of this current path she's on. She needs the truth to speak to her wrong beliefs about god, herself and others, and she certainly needs a new life because the nightmare one she's screaming about doesn't appear to be working.
Surely, Chrisitne isn't the only one needing answers to the distressing issues going on in their own hearts and heads, but she has most definitely screams the loudest for attention.
I spoke up to that issue.
Would be great if Constance would turn down her volume to a whisper...and God listens for and hears those like none other.
12:19,
too bad you don't seek a solution to your prideful dishonesty
I don't parade my life here, I answer accusations about it. if no one said anything you would see nothing about my life.
I don't hammer self prescribed solutions and my defense of some religious points are because you people go on the attack about them. you get a comprehensive refutation.
but no matter how often you are refuted on EVERY point you never shut up.
and you have the gall to talk about my supposed "proud and loud parade here"?
YOU ARE THE ONES CAUSING IT. YOU POST LIES AND RELIGIOUS AND HISTORICAL FALSEHOODS
AND I CORRECT YOU.
you don't want the loud parade? don't say anything to me about these subjects.
real simple.
No, we get a comprehensive bunch of your "religious flatulations", 12:47 PM.
Your voluminous posts reek.
12:59
you wouldn't have to see voluminous posts if you'd keep your hisloppian delusions to yourself. just post a oneliner link to a hislop site when you feel like it and we can post a oneliner link to an anti hislop site.
you stop your unbiblical and unhistorical attacks already refuted numerous times
beyond such a link, and you won't have to hear all this. The sole connection between nimrod and ninus is one ancient historian his contemporaries considered unreliable, and NIMROD WAS CENTURIES MAYBE A THOUSAND YEARS PRIOR TO SEMIRAMIS.
Watch out.
She's gonna huff....and puff.....and blow this whole dang blog down ;) .
Constance, it's too bad about your blog. It used to be good. Erikson ruined it.
I'm quite sure no one will even bother to read this post I'm about to provide a link to, but here goes anyway.
A good read about the core reasons for the gender perversions we are witnessing, and that will only increase in depth of evil.
Gender Benders- It's About More Than You Think:
parablesblog.blogspot.com
April 21, 2016 post
Constance, and the rest:
10:36 am said to Christine:
"There simply is no complete discussion of New Age without discussion of the nasty satanic cult you love!"
While that may be true (except for the "nasty satanic cult" part), it is also true of all the Protestant denominations, and we should expect equal billing from the Catholic folks here as they try to expose all the New Age leanings of some of those "nasty Satanic cults" as well.
But since this is primarily a New Age discussion blog, can we all please leave out the general theological debate between the Protestants and Catholics and E.O. where such debate is not related to the New Age movement's infiltration into either one? There are plenty of other blogs where such discussions can be had. Tons of them. Go find one and jump in with both feet!
In fact, Christine has one of her own, and even started another one. (Christine: Perhaps you should rename the newer one "thetroubles.blogspot.com" or something that gives equal billing...)
Am I completely absurd for suggesting that exposing general heresy or false doctrines, no matter which camp your perspective is from, is NOT the same as exposing the New Age? The New Age movement is a particular, narrowly-defined type of heresy, and it concerns Christians of all stripes, so naturally we should expect Christians of all stripes to come here looking for ways their churches are being compromised. With that in mind, shouldn't there be an implicit agreement between everyone to agree to disagree on doctrinal issues that are not related specifically to the New Age Movement?
There are other topics that Constance and the rest of us bring up from time to time, and it's not just always about the New Age Movement specifically. But at least leave out the back-and-forth between Protestant / Catholic, OK? It really serves no purpose AT THIS BLOG. It may be useful and beneficial elsewhere, and needs to take place, but in all the years this back-and-forth has been going on here, can anyone point to a convert who, because of the "eloquence of argument" from either side, has made the switch? I don't recall any. I really hesitate to say it's completely pointless, but... why does it need to be here, on this specific blog? If the Pope is being blasphemously New Age is his pronouncements, then sure, let's talk about that, but lets not use that as a springboard to a bully pulpit against Roman Catholicism in general, OK? Because the two are not synonymous!
Here is a general truth that applies everywhere throughout life: If a group of people can't police themselves, then they will either have others doing the policing (in the specific case here, the blog owner), or there will be chaos. We are seeing that descent into chaos everywhere around us in the world, because of this exact dynamic.
Well, we haven't been able to police ourselves, and the external policing by Constance hasn't happened either, hence, chaos. There is no other alternative. It is the way things always work.
Constance: If you want to avoid chaos here on your blog, you must find a way to police it, or somehow convince the audience here to police themselves. Your pleas from time to time to "please stop the bickering" have fallen on deaf ears and don't seem to be working, so if you don't want chaos, you must start enforcing some ground rules.
There really are no other options, Constance. If you don't have time to do the policing, then find someone else to help, or let it continue on in chaos, or shut it down and hope that another one springs up somewhere else. I really don't give many odds in favor of self-policing anymore.
Christine:
I try to respect you, because you obviously have spent a lot of time researching and reading and trying to educate yourself on many things, but when you say this:
"YOU ARE THE ONES CAUSING IT. YOU POST LIES AND RELIGIOUS AND HISTORICAL FALSEHOODS
AND I CORRECT YOU.
you don't want the loud parade? don't say anything to me about these subjects.
real simple."
...you lose my respect, and everyone else's here. What you said in a nutshell above (at least that is how it came across to me), is that you are always right, and if someone happens to disagree with you on something, then you have to set them straight, because, well, you're always right.
When someone thinks that are always right, they stopped learning a long time ago. That is a sad place to be, Christine. I hope you will reconsider that for each of us, even you, there is SO MUCH we don't know. Life is a never-ending learning process. Stop and consider: When is the last time you changed your mind on anything? If it's been a while, shouldn't you see that as a warning sign?
I guess as we all get older, we tend to change our minds less and less. I guess that's natural. But it can trap us into believing something that isn't true. Pride will do that, yes?
Nasty, stupid pride! How it blinds.
Marko,
Hislop has be soundly refuted elsewhere, and I used to believe some of his stuff
years ago. There are various ways of interpreting some things in Scripture but when
the approach is to yank out of context and apply to what is not even similar to what
the verse was about and other ways of making it appear to say what it doesn't,
and when there are false, documented false statements about things in history, or
partly true and avoiding the issue of provocations,
then I fail to see why my statement should cost your respect.
I changed my mind on several things over the past thirty years. (Hislop was
one of them) and I have been changing back and forth on Trump and tempted to vote
for him at times if he gets nominated, but then new dirt comes up on him (such
as his latest advisor/campaign manager/whatever and I go "NO."
But when one "happens to disagree" with me based on demonstrable falsehoods, and
when refuted merely repeat the same falsehoods over and over without attempt to
refute the refutation, or if they do so the refutation gets refuted and they keep
it up, what then?
perhaps my phrasing gives a wrong impression. I apologize for that.
Anonymous Marko said...
Constance, and the rest:
Marko, I agree with you.
Unless Constance either has to monitor and manage her own blog or be comfortable with the laissez faire chaos that erupts.
I see as much apostasy as with the Protestants as I so the Catholics/EO's.
Is the apostasy of old? I contend it started as soon as Christ left the earth.
Gradually the Old Covenant was put to rest and as quickly the New Covenant of Righteousness, Peace and Joy, in the Holy Spirit died and new laws were established.
Laws that God never intended? A new study of sin developed. Ethnic supremacy raised its ugly head. We see all of this in the First Church.
I stand corrected that the first Schism was not that of the Roman Church split with the rest of the 'People of The Way' but the first Schism can be found in the first church. Rev 2:4
In-so-much as NewAge apostasy does integrate with our so-called Christian churches, it should be addressed. Of course if people hold their religion above their love for God they will strike back. To deny that discussion as Protestant or Catholic bashing is an outcrop of Political Correctness. As I mentioned before the doctor does not leave cancer behind because it is a different color.
So what do we have? A blog where Constance tells us what she thinks on occasion and the cats and dogs start fighting? As I see it Constance's choices are as follows:
1) leave her blog open as it is today, with Christine Erikson (aka Justina) as her blog moderator?
2) she can close it so that she needs to approve all posts prior to posting?
3) she an close it and appoint a couple blog moderators to trash items unrelated to the blog topic?
In any case it is her blog.
Blogger Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said... 3:00 PM
Marko, perhaps my phrasing gives a wrong impression. I apologize for that.
Christine you just doubled down on Marko's observation:
(Marko) What you said in a nutshell above (at least that is how it came across to me), is that you are always right, and if someone happens to disagree with you on something, then you have to set them straight, because, well, you're always right.
Marko,
You generally side more with Catholics here. Is that why you have to keep reminding us that you are Protestant?
"Nasty stupid pride! How it blinds"
Apply that to your forehead please! You who like to school us in how to prepare for communion! Also, your sources of knowledge are superior to the rest of us here? As you like to believe!
Why don't you take your temperature before the next time you take communion? Take it often. I'm sure it's always dangerously low.
You like to teach, yet I find you are often in need of correction here by others. Maybe go through some more maturing before trying to lead.
I do agree, at least to the extent that BOTH Catholics, and Protestants could at minimum, tone it down considerably!
Dan,
I give reasons why I'm right. and its not I'm right but something is right something is wrong and here are the facts or Bible information relevant. And
when the latter is more comprehensive than some extracted proof text ignoring
everything that corrects for over or misapplication, then until someone can
do a comparably comprehensive approach that refutes me I see no reason to go
along with error.
the others give nothing but assumptions, hislop and proof texts.
you on the other hand give vagueries. I asked you to LIST WHICH traditions you
think are not biblical and you weaseled off on another subject entirely, and
now you talk about invented laws never meant to be and you don't specify which
and I doubt you will. until you do so, which allows them to be subjected to a
comprehensive bible search and historical context basis why they might be helping
God's purposes in some situation of the past and maybe present also, there is
nothing to talk about.
have you repented of believing in reincarnation and denying God the Son is coeternal with The Father Who you think was for some time alone without The Word
and probably without The Holy Spirit also?
http://tarpley.net/good-riddance-andrew-jackson-the-expunging-of-this-catastrophic-president-from-all-us-currency-is-long-overdue/#more-9667
Tarpley's expertise in American and British and European history is great but fades
east of Venice.
Marko,
I agree with much of what you have said. Please allow me to make several off the cuff comments as well:
While I agree with you that there is too much bickering that goes on here between "Protestants & Catholics," I don't really see how this will end in the near future. For example; "Susanna" is often portrayed as an "innocent victim" on this site. She is very popular with Constance and is often called on by her for her comments, typically relating to the teachings, or related issues, of the Roman Catholic Church, etc. Upon such requests (and more often than not), Susanna will copy & paste vast amounts of Rome's take on issues, dogmas & doctrines ... most of which is in direct conflict with Biblical truth. Therein lies the conflict. Therefore, it is extremely naive to think that Bible believers on this site will simply remain silent and not "defend the faith once delivered unto the saints."
Also, Bible believers understand the extreme importance of the Bible as the only standard by which all matters of faith and practice are to be based. Yet, Susanna (along with other Anonymous pro-Catholic posters) are in a constant mode of attacking this belief. Somehow, Constance and other RCC sympathizers don't see that as "bashing." It is only when Bible believers defend their convictions that the term "bashers" is applied ... as in "Catholic Bashers" .... one that Constance seems to be very fond of as well. The fact that Bible believers can be attacked (it's ok with me, it is to be expected) and that is not considered "bashing" only illustrates the clear bias of not only the RCC defenders but Constance as well.
(continued)
Regarding "Christine aka Justina" ...
She often makes reckless, unsubstantiated, often outright false attacks upon individuals in here. Just to illustrate this point; in my personal dealings with her, she has repeatedly made the charge that MY "god" is Alexander Hislop, even though I personally have NEVER ... as in not ONCE ... quoted anything directly from his work. I posted once that I had read his book over 35 years ago, and do in fact have a copy of "The Two Babylons" in my vast personal library. Somehow, she jumps from that to make the claim that "Hislop" is my "god."
For some reason, Christine seems totally captivated with Hislop, even though almost no one on this blog ever even brings up his work.
She makes numerous,reckless statements that typically have no basis in fact, or truth, other than what rattles around in her inventive imagination ... such as ... alien abductions, aliens among us, life on Mars, Chakras, people casting effective spells on Christians, etc., etc. Many, many times, she states that a person is not a Christian ... all based entirely on her "judgment." More than once, she has claimed that I am a "Satan worshiper," a "New Ager," blah, blah, blah. She uses the same tactics on virtually anyone that has the audacity to question ANYTHING that she has to say.
She promotes her un-Biblical co-habitation with a man and goes to great lengths to justify her self-willed, sin by her "private interpretation" of the Bible. In other words, she PROVOKES people to make a defense against her apostate proclamations. On all of this, Constance if virtually silent.
While I think some of the posts are over the top, I don't see how anyone can expect that Bible believers will remain silent when they perceive that Bible truth is being attacked.
"I see as much apostasy as with the Protestants as I so the Catholics/EO's.
Is the apostasy of old? I contend it started as soon as Christ left the earth."
Yes, that quickly.
I also, on the occasions I've posted, mention the apostasy of all that calls itself Christian, regardless of denomination.
Constance has named names and reported much over the years when Protestants have been off the rails to buy in with the New Age (and for a long time). i went back to look and there is much to see.
But........I don't understand why this Pope gets a only a lick and a promise of "concern" from Constance. This topic deserves much discussion. She has mentioned him only here and there, then quickly turns it over to the topic to the blog, so it has broken down to an us against them scenario. And leading the way of the breakdown is the Erikson tirade and flood of what doesn't belong here in the first place-her own personal nightmare life and lifestyle...all while this Pope is doing the bidding of the global New Age, cheering it on and bringing on along for the ride, many others of all that says it is Christian.
But by their fruits we do know them.
Why not come out and say it, that she smells a rat? Unless she is not quite convinced he is one. But there is way too much to overlook now and he is very current (doesn't appear to be second-guessing the political schemes of the day does, he?), just more and more marginalizing of those not with him in "fixing" how the world turns. These are successfully pushing the global agenda down the throat of the day to day workings of the world to change it it their liking.
That is alarming.
Chritsine Erikson, kindly remove yourself from center stage and let this blog have a proper discussion. That is what you say you are here for.
Many beg to differ since you demand constant attention for yourself. It's why you are greatly disrespected and disliked.
Enough, already.
"she has repeatedly made the charge that MY "god" is Alexander Hislop, even though I personally have NEVER ... as in not ONCE ... quoted anything directly from his work.....
For some reason, Christine seems totally captivated with Hislop, even though almost no one on this blog ever even brings up his work."
everything you say is consistent with Hislop. you and the rest who talk about the Babylonian harlot church and paganism disguised as Christianity in RC reek of Hislop. When I drag him up, by name, no one denies him your remarks are the first
resembling this. Hislop in person or not, the nature of the attacks are hisloppian
and/or the kind of subjectivist stuff that denies having "religion."
that Hislop is your god is sarcasm, of course I don't mean you consciously with bowing and prayer worship him. but his line of thought whatever source you got it
filtered through, is all over your and others' writing.
meanwhile, speaking of reckless....
are you read to repent of lying and saying you saw an ad for psychic services posted by me?
if not we have nothing to talk about.
"she PROVOKES people to make a defense against her apostate proclamations."
on the contrary. if you people wouldn't keep bringing them up thread after thread
every time I change the subject to New Age and relevant politics and corruption,
YOU WOULD NOT HEAR ANY OF THESE SUPPOSED APOSTATE PROCLAMATIONS.
"Nasty stupid pride! How it blinds"
Anon. 3:41, that was not directed at anyone in particular, and I included myself in the general condemnation of how we let pride get in the way.
I can't recall the last time I said anything about Communion. Communism, yes. But Communion? Nothing recently that I know of, unless the few memory cells I have left have finally left the building. :^)
I also prefer to see my "siding" with one or the other as more of a peacemaking mission, and hopefully it does not cross the line from peacemaking into syncretism, because THAT I am vehemently opposed to.
MCE, you have accused your dear old mom of being a witch (you should look in Mike's mirror! You demanded proof of your antecedents' Presbyterianism? Well here's for starters:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=103940728
Birth: Feb. 25, 1924
Saint Louis
St. Louis County
Missouri, USA
Death: Jan. 22, 2013
Mexico
Audrain County
Missouri, USA
"Frances Ann Parrish, 88 of Vandalia, passed away unexpectedly at 2 a.m. on Saturday, Jan. 19, 2013 at the Audrain Medical Center in Mexico, Mo."
"Visitation is from 1 p.m. until service time Tuesday, Jan 22, at the First Presbyterian Church in Vandalia, Mo. Funeral service is at 2 p.m. Tuesday, Jan. 22, at the First Presbyterian Church in Vandalia with Rev. Bob Balwanz officiating. Music will be provided by Mike Ray, pianist. Interment will be in the Vandalia Cemetery."
"Pallbearers include Mike Ray, Paul Ray, Art Wiser, Paul Galloway, Frank Wallace and Jimmy Robinson. Honorary pallbearers are Ray Werner and Jerry Zimmer."
"Frances Ann was a graduate of Vandalia High School with the class of 1940. She attended Bryn Mawr College in Pennsylvania, majoring in history and French and graduated with an AB degree in 1944. She then returned to Vandalia to help care for her father in the late days of World War II. Following his death, she and her sister attended Stanford University in California until her sister's marriage there."
"After secretarial training in Chicago, she returned to Bryn Mawr College in 1946 to begin a master's program involving research in history at Washington, D.C. With health problems, she returned to Missouri, lived and worked in Columbia, Mo. until an auto accident required home care in Vandalia. After her mother's death in 1974, Vandalia became her permanent residence and she lived in the more than century old home on West State Street. Frances Ann maintained memberships in local chapters of D.A.R. and P.E.O. and was a life member of the American Association of University Women and the State Historical Society of Missouri. She enjoyed the farm planning of her family's 320 acre farm and the continuance of family history in Vandalia through the Vandalia Area Historical Society."
"Frances Ann was born Feb. 25, 1924 in St. Louis, the daughter of Dr. John Conley and Mary Alice (Hanna) Parrish."
Survivors omitted.
"She was preceded in death by her parents; one sister, Mary Ellen Erickson."
"Memorials may be made to the First Presbyterian Church of Vandalia or to the donor's choice."
"Family links:
Parents:
John Conley Parrish (1854 - 1944)
Mary Alice Hanna Parrish (1886 - 1974)"
"Sibling:
Mary Ellen Parrish Erikson (1920 - 2003)*
Frances Ann Parrish (1924 - 2013)"
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Vandalia Cemetery
Vandalia
Audrain County
Missouri, USA
Created by: Judy
Record added: Jan 21, 2013
Find A Grave Memorial# 103940728
http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Frances-Ann-Parrish-95159390
Frances Ann Parrish
February 25, 1924 - January 19, 2013.
Obituary
"Frances was born on February 25, 1924 and passed away on Saturday, January 19, 2013.
Frances was a resident of Vandalia, Ohio at the time of her passing."
"Visitation Tuesday, January 22, 2013 from 1:00 p.m. until service time at the First Presbyterian Church in Vandalia, Missouri. Service: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 at 2:00 p.m. at the First Presbyterian Church in Vandalia. Music provided by: Mike Ray - pianist. Interment will be in the Vandalia Cemetery."
"Memorials are encouraged to the First Presbyterian Church of Vandalia or the donor's choice."
MCE, your antecedents were Presbyterian as I said. You denied this and claimed they are from a long line of powerful witches (Orzarks).
Your maternal aunt, Frances...
http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Frances-Ann-Parrish-95159390
Frances Ann Parrish
February 25, 1924 - January 19, 2013.
Obituary
"Frances was born on February 25, 1924 and passed away on Saturday, January 19, 2013.
Frances was a resident of Vandalia, Ohio at the time of her passing."
"Visitation Tuesday, January 22, 2013 from 1:00 p.m. until service time at the First Presbyterian Church in Vandalia, Missouri. Service: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 at 2:00 p.m. at the First Presbyterian Church in Vandalia. Music provided by: Mike Ray - pianist. Interment will be in the Vandalia Cemetery."
"Memorials are encouraged to the First Presbyterian Church of Vandalia or the donor's choice."
The malice and dictative tone in the Erikson woman is inescapable and contributes much too what has gone wrong here.
Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said to RayB @ 4:22 PM ...
"everything you say is consistent with Hislop."
There you go again. While Hislop's book "The Two Babylons" ties the connection between ancient pagan practices, holidays, etc. with what Rome has incorporated into its own system, its overwhelming focus is on the historical, documented connections. Hislop's work is not a theological examination of what Rome teaches vs the Bible, whereas that is precisely what I focus on. Furthermore, I personally have never quoted any of Hislop's work in this blog, and I challenge you to copy & paste where I have. I stick to contending against Rome's stated errors on this blog as proven by the Scriptures, and almost never quote other commentators, etc. Having read Hislop's book over 35 years ago hardly qualifies as the "source" for my thoughts or for writing material.
Christine says:
"meanwhile, speaking of reckless....
are you read (sic) to repent of lying and saying you saw an ad for psychic services posted by me?"
For me to deny what I (and Dan Bryan along with at least two others) saw you post on this blog regarding your friend's "seer" services would be for me to lie. I (and others) saw what I saw and simply stated that fact. You seem to have a proclivity for making "mistakes" on posting here, as exemplified by your recent blog entries while using your "friend's" name (by mistake, no doubt). This is consistent with how you made the previous mistake of posting (mistakenly using YOUR name on THIS ... the "wrong" site)on this blog, and then quickly removing it.
I won't apologize for telling the truth. This matter is settled "on the testimony of two or more witnesses."
What is even more alarming, anon 5:55 PM, and telling is the very kind of witchcraft (Ozark) she accuses her forebears of appears all too reminiscent of the nonsense about 'tantric sex magic' she has been exposed for flaunting in 'witchcraft forums!
Moreover, one cannot help but suspect her motives here at Co stance's blog (exposing folk like her) when one considers what sort of ungodly relationship she has at home. She has boasted of the psychic powers of her "Resident Seer ", which she capitalizes through adoration of a mere very fallen man (no wonder the unsaved Catholics are defending her tooth and nail) , she has told us he is an "ex " Satanist, yet she needs to keep an eye (the evil eye?) on him to keep him tame. He, like she, is an unrepentant rebellious reprobate (yet as far as we know, at least he doesn't pretend to be otherwise!)! She has a history of sexual promiscuity with this man (tantric fornication magic?) she refuses to marry so she can continue to milk the public purse while she sits idle causing mischief over the Web (the Devil makes work for idle hands).
See the similarities between her and her "ex" Satanist co-fornicator 'seer in residence', and the example given below from one of the type of sites she gets off by posting and boasting in:
"A Witchcraft which is practiced in the southern mountains of Arkansas and Missouri. Such a practice, one might expect, is a rejection of the "Bible belt" fundamentalist religions, particularly the Southern Baptist. denomination. The initiation occurred on three consecutive nights. The initiate, usually a young woman, slept and had sexual intercourse with a male witch who became the incarnation of the Devil. Also, on these nights this person taught the young woman many secrets of the Craft. Many initiates claimed the experience was more inspirational than Christian conversion..."
She has already been caught out posting her infamous "ad" here, which by all accounts she swiftly deleted when she ostensibly realized her mistake I posting it here!
What is even more alarming, anon 5:05 PM, and telling is the very kind of witchcraft (Ozark) she accuses her forebears of appears all too reminiscent of the nonsense about 'tantric sex magic' she has been exposed for flaunting in 'witchcraft forums!
Moreover, one cannot help but suspect her motives here at Co stance's blog (exposing folk like her) when one considers what sort of ungodly relationship she has at home. She has boasted of the psychic powers of her "Resident Seer ", which she capitalizes through adoration of a mere very fallen man (no wonder the unsaved Catholics are defending her tooth and nail) , she has told us he is an "ex " Satanist, yet she needs to keep an eye (the evil eye?) on him to keep him tame. He, like she, is an unrepentant rebellious reprobate (yet as far as we know, at least he doesn't pretend to be otherwise!)! She has a history of sexual promiscuity with this man (tantric fornication magic?) she refuses to marry so she can continue to milk the public purse while she sits idle causing mischief over the Web (the Devil makes work for idle hands).
See the similarities between her and her "ex" Satanist co-fornicator 'seer in residence', and the example given below from one of the type of sites (themystica.com [WARNING:DANGER]) she gets off by posting and boasting in:
"Ozark Witchcraft which is practiced in the southern mountains of Arkansas and Missouri. Such a practice, one might expect, is a rejection of the "Bible belt" fundamentalist religions, particularly the Southern Baptist. denomination. The initiation occurred on three consecutive nights. The initiate, usually a young woman, slept and had sexual intercourse with a male witch who became the incarnation of the Devil. Also, on these nights this person taught the young woman many secrets of the Craft. Many initiates claimed the experience was more inspirational than Christian conversion..."
She has already been caught out posting her infamous "ad" here, which by all accounts she swiftly deleted when she ostensibly realized her mistake I posting it here!
What is even more alarming, anon 5:05 PM, and telling is the very kind of witchcraft (Ozark) she accuses her forebears of appears all too reminiscent of the nonsense about 'tantric sex magic' she has been exposed for flaunting in 'witchcraft forums!
Moreover, one cannot help but suspect her motives here at Co stance's blog (exposing folk like her) when one considers what sort of ungodly relationship she has at home. She has boasted of the psychic powers of her "Resident Seer ", which she capitalizes through adoration of a mere very fallen man (no wonder the unsaved Catholics are defending her tooth and nail) , she has told us he is an "ex " Satanist, yet she needs to keep an eye (the evil eye?) on him to keep him tame. He, like she, is an unrepentant rebellious reprobate (yet as far as we know, at least he doesn't pretend to be otherwise!)! She has a history of sexual promiscuity with this man (tantric fornication magic?) she refuses to marry so she can continue to milk the public purse while she sits idle causing mischief over the Web (the Devil makes work for idle hands).
See the similarities between her and her "ex" Satanist co-fornicator 'seer in residence', and the example given below from one of the type of sites ( themystica.com [WARNING: DANGER!] she gets off by posting and boasting in:
"Ozark Witchcraft which is practiced in the southern mountains of Arkansas and Missouri. Such a practice, one might expect, is a rejection of the "Bible belt" fundamentalist religions, particularly the Southern Baptist. denomination. The initiation occurred on three consecutive nights. The initiate, usually a young woman, slept and had sexual intercourse with a male witch who became the incarnation of the Devil. Also, on these nights this person taught the young woman many secrets of the Craft. Many initiates claimed the experience was more inspirational than Christian conversion..."
She has already been caught out posting her infamous "ad" here, which by all accounts she swiftly deleted when she ostensibly realized her mistake in posting it here!
12:07 P.M.
Fire with fire!
"MCE, your antecedents were Presbyterian as I said. You denied this and claimed they are from a long line of powerful witches (Orzarks)."
I didn't say powerful line. and, idiot, most REAL witches especially before "wicca" got halfway respectable, were church goers. the harpy coven back of feri Anderson
witchcraft which I won't detail here, were all nominal Christians.
I think her parents were carriers rather than full initiate. I won't explain that.
In the late 1800s and early 20th century, witches often joined up with theosophy which had more respectable look than naked pagans etc. or went with Unitarianism likely and certainly the Unitarian universalist church has been very wicca friendly.
"She has a history of sexual promiscuity with this man"
you can't practice promiscuity with one partner. promiscuity is MANY partners and
without much or any selectivity. get your terminology right.
" (tantric fornication magic?)"
NEVER!
" she refuses to marry so she can continue to milk the public purse"
as I said over a year ago by now, I lost my SSI when the inheritance from my
aunt caused me to be "over resourced."
My major reason now is his debts which in California (due to it having the Equal
Rights Amendment in the state constitution) I would become liable for.
you got the description of the initiation right at least. I think my biological so called mother or her mother I forget which was born 9 months to the day after the
marriage. Which makes me suspect that something to do with ritual magic sex might
have happened, or if nothing else sex just before the marriage as a deliberate
rejection of social and religious norms as distinct from being in love they're getting married anyway so why not do it sooner? If someone was conceived as a result
of this something might have been attached to her.
I never posted that ad. NO ONE DID. you either are one of the LIARS or you choose
to believe them.
I have always fought the occult and detailed ways of opposing it. and don't think
for a minute Christians can't be affected by curses and spells. PAUL ASKED ONE GROUP OF BELIEVERS WHO HAD BEWITCHED THEM. We are more able to resist. Some who
spend lots of time in prayer and keep blessed objects and holy water are more
resistant, some who only pray are more resistant. But when we recognize what's
going on we can break it easier or throw it off.
AND YOU IDIOTS WHO THINK NOTHING IS GOING TO CROSS YOUR MIND OR STIR IN YOUR SPIRIT
OR HEART EXCEPT IT IS FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE OF ALL.
because of your misunderstanding. Does not Peter warn to beware and on guard because the devil goes about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour?
nowhere does the Bible explicitly say a Christian cannot be affected by the occult or by demons. All rationales along this line are human reasoning based on proof
texts.
PS, even writing what I have had to in order to expose and correct her, as a Christian spiritually sickens me to the stomach!
I feel a deep aversion to even mention the sickening spiritual mess she is in. It is so repugnant and a shame to even utter what she is up to, yet it is necessary!
To you, "self-righteous creepy Pharisee" isn't "name calling"????
""she PROVOKES people to make a defense against her apostate proclamations."
on the contrary. if you people wouldn't keep bringing them up thread after thread
every time I change the subject to New Age and relevant politics and corruption,
YOU WOULD NOT HEAR ANY OF THESE SUPPOSED APOSTATE PROCLAMATIONS."
the foregoing attack I responded to is an example of how you provoke me to discuss
what you don't want to hear.
No it is the truth.
MCE, "Idiot" you say? You are in grave danger of Hellfire, Mary Christine Erikson! I am a born again Christian and you're right, I am not all up on witchcraft and nor do I want to be, Infowolf! It sickens me to the gut in my spirit just to read your filth and the filth from the kinds of Satanic places you post such demonic filth!
fool is a term in Hebrew that is more a matter of moral as well as intellectual worthlessness. Jesus called people fools when they deserved it.
you are an idiot if you think church going and denominational identification means
the person cannot have a double life. or even believes anything at all.
you are the one posting demonic filth, consisting of false accusation about that
nonexistent ad, and you are very careless as to accuracy and misstate and misquote.
you will face God's judgement for your conduct likely you will get some stripes.
That's marks on the skin from the lash of a whip. Matthew chapter 25 read all of it.
and you post over and over all kinds of stuff about witchcraft or whatever,
restated misstated misquoted to make me look bad.
do you honestly think there is anyone here who doesn't know your version of events
by now? why keep repeating yourself? shut up.
6:47 PM, Please!
Why do you give her what she wants the most? Constant attention. You made your point long time ago. Do you think we're stupid too, like she does, so that you have to keep beating this blog over the head with her trainwreck of a life? Do you think we care that much about this? Really now?
She needs to get over herself. And you need to too. Get over the fact that she's God's problem not yours. You're becoming about as redundant as she is. Let wicked people brag and condemn themselves because the Bible says it is unspeakable for believers to openly talk about what wicked people do. She is into that. Should you be? Come on! Stop it!
http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/hab2.html
Habitat II
The UN Plan For Human Settlements
You are the one who needs to shut up you shameless Jezabel! You claim you're a Christian? You are co-habiting with someone you have an unrepentant history of sexual promiscuity aka fornication with, a person who has a history of deliberately worshipping Satan, who has NEVER repented nor turned to the Lord Jesus Christ for deliverance, who is clearly possessed by devils and manefesting all the evidence thereof, whose 'psychic seer powers' (actually, they are those of the legion evidently possessing him) you laud and praise as your, "Resident Seer", as though he were your God!
Through your attitude, you are encouraging him to continue in the awful spiritual state he is and are therefore guilty of spiritual murder of him , furthermore, by doing so, you are inadvertently or advertently (knowingly with deliberation) worshipping devils yourself aka Satan!
You hate your mother (which is murder... did you?, you lied about your antecedents not being Christians and that they were from a long line of Ozark witches, demanded evidence to the contrary of your deceptive assertions (you gambled I didn't have, which I gave to prove the Presbyterian background of your forebears), then changed your tune by implying they were nominal Christians, thereby making yourself a liar as you dix when you falsely accused and falsely claimed the 'two posts', as you have falsely accused Paul, Ray B and others, and lied about promoting Mike's demon given powers.
You are of your father Satan who was a murderer from the beginning and is the father of lies because you are spiritually (at least) a murderess,a fornicator, an occult dabbler, proud, haughty and full of envy and malice, an idolatrous blasphemer, and a habitual liar, and an unrepentant unregenerate, degenerate, rebelliously perverse: you are a reprobate and a heathen, you devil, Mary Christine Erikson!
I will NOT stop exposing you unless the Lord Jesus Christ puts it on my heart to stop so doing!
8:00 pm.....
Thank you and Amen!
8:00 PM, I agree with you and I will now let it go unless she posts something which is truly a danger to young Christians here!
Thank you for waking me up to let myself cool down!
You're right, she's redundant and is best ignored. I wipe the dust off my feet... let the Lord deal with her.
TO EVERYONE
Here is an example. I am provoked and I respond. the following statements would
not have been posted if that slanderer (another name for the devil) would not post.
and I DO NOT WANT ATTENTION, I REACT TO THE BARRAGE OF ATTENTION rebuking and correcting their lies and errors. MOST OF WHAT I HAVE POSTED WOULD NEVER HAVE
BEEN POSTED if not provoked.
anon 8:30
I have exposed you many times. you are a two faced lying hypocritical person,
who damages the blog with your blog hogging, you engage in slander and are haughty
and can't come up with a single post of mine to validate your garbage about what
I said exactly.
Mike has indeed repented of devil worship and commented once that he would never
want his daughter Amy to get close to his respectable Republican Midwestern
Minnesotan parents because of the rituals they do in secret.
Mike has sometimes given me money to give to the church but is uncomfortable
about going to church.
I have not falsely accused paul, there is every evidence he posted, and making
a reasonable conclusion from evidence is not lying even if mistaken (which I don't
think I am). I have not falsely accused RayB but he falsely accused me, starting
the lie about the ad. to which joined Dan Bryan the New Ager, categorizable as
such because he has some of its "theology" - reincarnation and denial Jesus is
coeternal with The FAther though Dan doesn't deny Jesus' divinity.
my post was being written while the previous two or three were posting. I can't
tell if the person I refer to in my last post is the one cooling down or not.
The Lord has put it on my heart, encouraged by your post 8:00 PM, to wipe the dust off my feet and that is what I do from now!
This is 8:00 PM.
Glad you understood where I was coming from. I think for the sake of the blog, it is the way it should be. She will continue to be obnoxious because she is extremely full of herself, but that is on her.
Constance needs to realize how detrimental she is to this blog's purpose and deal with Mary C Erikson, but whatever, it's her blog.
She posts mainly regurgitated rehash coming from trash to begin with.
Thinking people know the difference.
Dear Constance,
Here is an interesting video. It is an extremely long video.
There is a big push in Israel to build a temple and start sacrifices once again.
Has the Ark been recovered? When will it show up?
What will be the consequences?
Will people then have to choose between the law of God and the law of man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTNGEeXs_CY
Absolutely, 11 37 / 8:00 PM!
I just find it so frustrating how she attacks Christians here , such as Paul and Ray B, disseminating falsehood as though with a carte blanche to do so! Also, I had hoped to get her to see her errors and repent... She seems to have a seared conscience. Anyway, it's in the Lord's hands now.
Yet you're right , and unless the Lord lays it on my heart to do elsewise, I shall have no more to do with her. I have now wiped the dust off my feet!
Thank you, yes , I understood your motives and they are good as far as I see.
God bless you. :)
For anyone wondering whether I was unfairly slandering MCE, you can see the evidence and sources for my posts exposing her visits to magic forums in the link below.
Scroll half way down the page to the several posts from 7:12 to 8:44 PM, under the pen-name:
'Thank you Constance for all you do'.
http://cumbey.blogspot.com.es/2015/02/the-hi-jacking-of-evangelicalism.html?m=1
That is all I have to say on the matter now.
Sadly, it seems fine to be bonded with witchcraft and yet be a member of Greek Orthodoxy...
https://m.reddit.com/r/OrthodoxChristianity/comments/3lm2wn/orthodoxy_christian_and_witch/
anon 1:40
does your church demand that a person who has accepted Jesus Christ but is
already married to a non Christian even a pagan spouse, divorce before the
convert to Christ can join?
I Cor. 7:12-17
Why do you care MCE? You don't believe in the Bible view of marriage enough to even follow through with that yourself. Are you trying to pick another fight?
no, I'm asking why you find fault with the Orthodox Church because of allowing
someone to join who is married to a non Christian? I would like to know what
standards you are used to, that you can post what you did?
There is a lot bigger question that needs to be asked in what the link is bringing up.
You should ponder it and figure out what it is.
Hopefully you'll keep the answer to yourself.
thank you for not answering my question, and for deflecting the question.
ICor. 7:12-17 summary: if married to an unbeliever who is willing to stay with you don't leave that person but if they leave or kick you out let them go since you
can't know that you would otherwise save them. that unbelieving man or woman and the children are sanctified by the believing spouse.
my view of marriage is biblical not USA local legal which is variable. I have explained that. anyone interested can review previous posts. there is no point trying to correct those who think that a couple lacking paperwork have no claim on each other and that absent biblical grounds for divorce they can split up and
legally marry others without being guilty of adultery. I think there is a church
that views marriage of non virgins as invalid taking the one flesh situation as an
absolute in itself ignoring mercy and Paul's advocacy of having a spouse anyway to avoid temptation to fornication.
any questions to me should be addressed to my email infowolf1@aol.com and not on
this blog.
I thought you were done with me and dusting off your shoes, but perhaps you are
another anon. The non answer you gave at 3:07 shows you are not dusting your shoes
off but slinging innuendo again.
Perhaps someone else here can tell me if there are churches that require applicants
to divorce non Christian spouses before the can join.
Why get embroiled in your antics? Besides you need to get out your "calculator" and figure it out for yourself. Why ask anyone else since you know everything already? And just go to different church websites and get your answers about their views on that to satisfy your curiosity.
I'm a different anon by the way. Yes, and take the discussion to your own infowolf blog. We've begged for that before. Hopefully you'll keep your word.
there are too many churches to waste time on such a project. this is certainly
nothing I have ever heard of from any of the regular denominations.
"Hopefully you'll keep your word."
I didn't give my word, I INVITED others to spare Constance's blog and do your
posting about me at my blog.
Christine Dear,
Are you causing trouble and plugging up this blog again? And now I read you approve of and are a practicing concubine?
please discuss anything regarding me at http://cumbeyblogwreckers.blogspot.com
in comments sections to any post and not here.
https://answersingenesis.org/environmental-science/earth-day-a-christian-perspective/
" the prevailing view on environmental issues is skewed, as a proper Biblical foundation is lacking. "
Constance
Do you see that your blog has been taken over by Christine?
Count the posts!
What will you do about it?
Christine needs help!
She isn't getting that from you, or anyone else here.
Way too many posts from her, for sure. And so many arguments that she starts and insists on the last word! I hope she takes all of her arguing to her place for "discussion" and quits the constant drag on this place. She seldom posts something truly informative, mostly keeps beating the same drums, and has plastered her pathetic life all over this blog long enough. It's not helpful or needed or wanted "information" she dumps here, has been just a place for her to gut herself.
If people want to take her to task (have mercy on us) I hope it is over there and not here anymore.
https://www.technocracy.news/index.php/2016/04/22/flashback-technocracy-smart-grid-green-economy/
https://www.technocracy.news/index.php/2016/04/22/global-smart-grid-technocracys-endgame/
smart grid a product of technocracy not the other way around, origins of smart
grid idea.
A Protestant at a Fatima Conference -Christopher Story: 'Lenin's Satanic World Revolution'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1a4wYwq3D8
I hope this will be of interest - it is not unconnected to Constance's theme of Earth Day...
my apologies, the http://cumbeyblogwreckers.blogspot.com site was
accidently set to exclude anonymous posters, this has been changed.
Ruth:
I have that video bookmarked - it's excellent. Chris Story was one of a handful of excellent researchers who knew so much about so many different things that I am pretty sure he never got all of it down on paper. He had several newsletters (subscription-based) that covered world financial shenanigans (International Currency Review), and Soviet strategies and the World Revolution (Soviet Analyst).
In his book "The European Union Collective: Enemy of It's Member States", he said that the book was really just part 1, and that he wanted to write a part 2, getting more into the spiritual side of the battle we are in. Sadly, that was never written before he died of liver failure. Many think his death was suspicious, especially because of the number of people and organizations on whom he dug up the dirt (and not in a cheap tabloid manner, either). He probably turned over one too many rocks, and whatever was under one of them bit back.
Toward the end of his life he became puzzlingly combative and even paranoid about some things, and I can't say that I blame him! I tried discussing some things with him via email, and it was nearly impossible to do so.
Still, the volume, intensity and, for the most part, accuracy of his research has few equals today.
Thanks, Christine. Links that pertain without huge commentary.
Let's keep it that way, shall we?
Marko
So glad you've come across this! Christopher's Part 2 did in fact appear online as 'The New Underworld Order' on the following (sadly very dubious) website
http://exopolitics.blogs.com/files/the-new-underworld-order-christopher-story.pdf
and I have seen someone with a paperback copy. Here is part of the introduction:
'THE NEW UNDERWORLD ORDER is a world in which official criminality, driven by
bribery and corruption, is the norm among all layers of governance. At the vast
intergovernmental level, the Rule of Law does not apply - a state of affairs which is
exploited to the full under cover of a facade of hypocritical official rectitude. But at the
country level, it is ruthlessly relied upon by corrupt intelligence cadres when it suits their
interests - and equally ruthlessly flouted by operatives and officials most of the time, on the
cynical basis that 'everyone is doing it'. In particular, 'everyone' is engaged in perpetrating
crimes against humanity - in the form of drug-trafficking operations, which are controlled
by the competing and simultaneously collaborating intelligence services of the Great
Powers in order to finance their corrupt operations, and to sustain the corrosive and
subversive global hegemony activities of the llluminati, of which intelligence communities
form, wittingly or unwittingly, the backbone, as they consist essentially of esoteric secret
societies. This study, then, is about the rampant global corruption in high places arising
from the free-wheeling, unrestrained abominations of the system of synarchy - rule by
secret societies.
Although focused mainly on the United States and Britain, the Author addresses the
consequences of official criminalism worldwide - showing that it flourishes in surprising
places, such as the Vatican. He begins by exposing the lie that greets all who enter the
Langley headquarters of the CIA; shows how the perverse influence of the occultic secret
societies at Yale University has successfully institutionalised poisonously reprobate
attitudes and mentalities-originating in Germany-from generation to generation, infecting
cadres at the highest levels and influencing the whole of society for the worse; and
identifies the links between the Yale synarchy system and the drug trade, which is the
primary financing source for the llluminati.'
As you pointed out, he is a man with encyclopedic knowledge. I had heard the suggestions that his death hadn't been natural - it would hardly have been surprising.
I agree he has few equals today: Alex Thomson, a youngish Christian polymath with a vast knowledge of the bureaucracy and aims of the current European Union, among other fields, often appears on the UK Column News Live, and he is pretty old-school impressive.
Ruth:
I think I downloaded that a while ago, and tried skimming through it (which was probably my first mistake - you don't just "skim through" Story's material!), but something seems to have happened between the EU book and that one. It's not nearly as organized, seems more, I don't know - paranoid? something else? - and, well, it's difficult to explain, but I wasn't ready to give it as many thumbs up as the previous one.
Still, I may give it another look.
Have you read it? If so, what's your impression?
I know what you mean about 'paranoid', though you know what they say..."Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you'...
I suspect that if he had lived, Christopher would have polished his book up some more. Of course, the fact is, that the truth about the dark side is so much stranger than fiction that when not represented carefully, it comes across almost cartoonishly. That's the danger. It's rather like William Guy Carr's 'Satan, Prince of this World', (though with better theology). Yet who would have imagined such a thing as Hitler's camps could happen? Or Pol Pot's Cambodia? Or even the French Revolution?
The statement made by J Edgar Hoover is pertinent:
"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot
believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been
introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a
philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent."
Cornelia Ferreira: The Perestroika Deception Updated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpyOYju5cV0
The ploy to destroy the Catholic Church.
Starts at 41 minutes into the video.
part one is at the same site
http://exopolitics.blogs.com/files/eu-collective.pdf
anon 3:06 some of the extensive commentary posts were making a case of my own,
with the links being documentation or support of some sort.
Christine: Then redirect to your blog when you plan to comment extensively for further discussion.
Simple.
Thank you.
I just had another look at the main exopolitics site - seems like serious researchers like Christopher Story have been put up there next to the reptilian space brother nutcases - how does that work?
Ruth,
how it works is that that expolitics site author believes both Christopher Story and the reptilian story, and the even more nefarious new age notions and time travel and whatnot and (insofar as this represents Greer's ideas, the essential goodness of the con men in UFOs, Greer blaming all alien abduction (physical incidents not channeling) on military industrial complex rogue teams.
Christine
I suppose so, but it is confusion! What the Enemy does best...
Yes. you are so right, Ruth. We don't need to dabble there, do we?
anon 4:31 and Ruth
it is not dabbling to sort through the chaff to find the wheat.
Global Governance 2025: At a Critical Juncture
This report was jointly prepared and drafted by the EUISS and the US National Intelli-
gence Council (NIC), who were able to draw on the views contributed by a large number
of institutes and research centres in Brazil, China, India, Japan, Russia, South Africa and
the United Arab Emirates. Mathew Burrows from the NIC took charge on the American
side and Giovanni Grevi, then Senior Research Fellow at the EUISS, took charge on our
side. The report they have produced is an insightful, meaningful contribution to the on-
going debate on how to shape a multilateral order out of our multipolar world. (aka Acceptance for Antichrist?)
This is new to me and may be to some of you.
http://www.iss.europa.eu/uploads/media/Global__Governance_2025.pdf
Ozark Jazz.
She hisses her pus...
wed to the keyboard,
Tantilising tantric
in forums wicked and lewd.
Doubles her dabbling
Drab old babbling
Bubbling up from
the cess of her brood.
Graven icons varnishing
Venom drooling from
her Cobra-ed fang!
Psychic vampires
flaunting distortion
She flashes skin
of ying and yang.
Checkered chakras
rattle her rhythm
She swoons by the moon...
sways with the seer,
Lured by his rumba
in lurid delusion
they dance in delirium
as night creepeth near.
Contorting confusion
The seer's tele-vision
blocked by the blob
coiled on the couch
slouching sluggard
nagged and haggard
Hellbent with hag...
No sporting rings
for this gruesome match!
Ruth of Exetor, 3:11 P.M. and Marko,
Re:This study, then, is about the rampant global corruption in high places arising
from the free-wheeling, unrestrained abominations of the system of synarchy - rule by secret societies.
Regarding "synarchy" a.k.a. "rule of secret societies."
This hearkens back to the occult revival of the late nineteenth - early twentieth century and the writings of occultist Alexandre Saint-Yves d'Alveydre (1842–1909).
Here, we are getting into what the late Carrie Tomko and I used to call the "right wing" of the New Age Movement....."right wing" because it so often tends to be fascist.
Alexandre Saint-Yves d'Alveydre
...Saint-Yves believed that an ancient synarchist world government was transferred to Agartha within a hollow Earth at the start of the Kali-Yuga era, around 3,200 B.C.[3] Saint-Yves d'Alveydre was the man who really introduced the concept of Agartha to the Western world.
Saint-Yves's main disciple was the prominent occultist Papus who established a number of societies based on Synarchist ideas. Other notable followers included Victor Blanchard (1878–1953), Nizier Anthelme Philippe, René A. Schwaller de Lubicz and Emile Dantinne. Saint-Yves' works were also utilised in the development of Theosophy and Rudolf Steiner used Synarchy as a major influence in developing his political thought.
Saint-Yves's ideas influenced the turbulent French politics of the early twentieth century where they served as a model for a number of right-wing groups and also in Mexico where synarchist groups have had a major political role. Theories concerning Synarchist groups also have become a key element in a number of conspiracy theories.
...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Saint-Yves_d%27Alveydre
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AGARTHA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agartha
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D'Alveydre's protege, Papus, functioned as a "bishop" in the gnostic church established by Jules Doinel and was initiated into the infamous Ordo Templi Orientis by Theodor Reuss, another occultist and Germnan spy who appointed Aleister Crowley head of the O.T.O. in Britain and participated in an attempt to revive Adam Weishaupt's Bavarian Order of Illuminati in 1890 in Munich. ,
Papus also had a significant influence at the imperial court of Russia prior to the Russian Revolution.
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By the way, speaking of Christipher Story, he had claimed before his death that successive European collective treaties have been routinely procured by means of bribery and that there was a corrupt financial incentive for ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon, which entered into force in 2009. Story claimed that slush fund money was being paid into offshore bank accounts for the top 'facilitators' of the treaty.
I wonder if any of that "slush find money" is sitting in one of those offshore bank account in Panama that we have been hearing so much about lately?
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Marko, you might be especially interested in the following which was published in the Boston Globe a couple of years ago.......especially in light of Christopher Story's collaboration with KGB defector Anatoly Golitsyn in the writing of the book THE PERESTROIKA DECEPTION
Putin’s long game? Meet the Eurasian Union
It starts in 2015 and sounds like a scheme to rebuild the USSR, but its history is quite different — and troubling for the West.
By Leon Neyfakh Globe Staff March 09, 2014
https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/03/09/putin-long-game-meet-eurasian-union/1eKLXEC3TJfzqK54elX5fL/story.html
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8:20 PM
That is a heavy concentration of pointless thought you've put into that. We're supposed to care about the subject & your deliberate poetry & prose?
Aren't there better things to be thinking about...plus a lot of other things to be concerned with?
Could you make your pointless criticism a little more high brow, 8:31?
Somebody is as redundant as Erikson, only more creative is all.
At least you're honest about yourself there (Dorothy?), 9:00
Since Christine is your subject shouldn't you be taking that to her blog for discussion 8:20 PM?
Referring to the Pope, "he is leading those of the "falling away" of 2 Thessalonians."
Christ asks "Will I find faith when I return"? Could this be a rhetorical questions or is there something more?
This 'falling away' from the faith en masse, will it be connected to the alien gospel (the fallen angelic host arriving)? One essential New Age concept is the eventual return of the Ascended Masters. I am still of the belief that the Church are laying the rail so to speak, and there is a connection with the Mt. Graham telescope and the Nemesis approach on its elliptic orbit. Let us also consider that next September the 23rd (2017), Virgo gives birth to Jupiter whilst clothed in the Sun. Indeed the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
A dead horse to beat, but always food for thinking.
Anonymous Richard said...9:29 PM
Referring to the Pope, "he is leading those of the "falling away" of 2 Thessalonians."
Christ asks "Will I find faith when I return"? Could this be a rhetorical questions or is there something more?
The Pope may be one of many that will lead to the falling away.
I do believe he will find faith when he returns, but it definitely is a question for each of us to individually ponder.
The falling away could be caused by erroneous eschatological beliefs, causing unbelief?
Another can be those that take the mark as those that don't, especially if the chip has DNA altering properties? Or the chips have embedded spirit entities? Daniel 2:43?
Not being able to buy sell, own bank accounts and other securities, have health care, drive a car, etc etc etc with out the chip? Hunger is a good motivator especially for soft Americans.
Genetically created 'deadly' virus that requires a vaccine that is contaminated with animal DNA altering ingredients? Take the shot or die!
These days/events will pit parents against children, brother against sister, wife against husband, church members against each other,... Matthew 10:21,22
I think it is always good to strengthen faith and think of these soon coming times before they arrive. Will we choose to save our comforts/flesh at the expense of eternal life? Revelation 14:11 The dead horse is those that make the wrong decision?
Anonymous 9:03 I'm amused that you remember my name. I spent many years posting my research about the New Age movement. I watch this site as I watch many others to not miss new information that can be useful to other researchers. Those who post information about the part of New Age I continue to take seriously I thank. Those who have moved to other parts have taken over this page, it is their determination. Constance is in charge here. It is her site. We parted ways quite a long time ago. I hope this comment does not disappear. Who has the picture.
The "falling away" is from the Gospel.
In popular circles now, the actual Gospel is being replaced by the "social gospel" and gaining ground within all the denominations. That makes it easy for them to get on board with the globalist socialist crowd with the coming anti-christ who will take the helm and the one world religion that fits the plan, doing his bidding to persecute the real believers that will not fall in, those coming out of all the denominations. The mechanisms are nearly all in place and the players are lining up. So advanced it will not be long now. Watch whoever goes after Israel and the land of Promise. The EU and UN, and all the tentacles attached, are getting very aggressive about all of this. That shows us who is up to the ultimate no good according to the Bible. Bad and getting worse everyday.........
The Newest Opponents Of North Carolina’s Anti-Transgender Law: Faith Groups
https://www.oximity.com/article/The-Newest-Opponents-Of-North-Carolina-1?utm
Dan Bryan,
The fallen away crowd and the globalist crowd are making room for "every stripe" so they can all be ruled by one (and he ain't gonna be God) aren't they?........
As I assumed would happen, my response to 9:03 disappeared. Those searching through open discussion to understand truth by way of this blog will not find it. It has become another provision made for dissidents. It is one of the reasons I left. You are being distracted and entertained. Enjoy.
Dorothy
After I read the article from Dan's link, I was reminded of a few verses of Proverbs ...
"They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them. Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the Lord understand all things." Proverbs 28:4,5
"The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate." Proverbs 8:13
Are there conditions that must be met if our prayers are going to be "heard" by God?
"He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination." Proverbs 28:9
Dorothy 10:40AM
My post addressed to Marko and Ruth of Exeter regarding "synarchy" and its main 19th-century disciple Alexander Saint Yves d'Alveydre - and a couple of other items related to the New Age Movement ( i.e. "Agartha" ) - has "disappeared" as well.
Susanna, as is clear, there is no longer exposure of what is going on in the development and growth of the New Age movement and its control of the minds of the population for whatever reasons at this blog. This has been going on for a long time and will not change. Others have found better pages where sharing that type of information is possible. To each his own.
Dorothy/Susanna,
My opinion from an I.T. perspective is that either this site is hacked, or it auto-deletes comments that are posted with hyperlinks in them thinking they might be spam, when they are not. It's kind of hit-n-miss if it's the second one.
Marko, it isn't hacked and there were no links in my very few sentences. Constance deletes as she sees fit. This has been going on for years. There is no need for her to delete any of the comments of the regulars on this blog for obvious reasons. Enough said. Enjoy your exchanges.
Constance said regarding some posts that disappeared and she restored, that some
will land in a spam file for the blog comments. since some posts have disappeared
at first and turned up again resulting in multiple posts, this may snag then release on its own at times.
Susanna
I'm sorry to hear that your post about synarchy has disappeared - I would have been so interested to read it. Would you be kind enough to post it again? Meanwhile I shall look up the name you mentioned.
Ditto what Ruth said, Susanna!
And Psalm 66:18, RayB.
If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me.
Interesting those numbers...
6 is the number of man (doubled so two 6's) and 18 is the number of bondage in the Bible. Interesting also, three 6's (6+6+6) added together equals 18.
Sin, then doubled down on sin, until in full bondage.
God's not kidding about that is what I gather.
Now I need to go borrow my Dad's book again to find out who came up with that.
Marko and Ruth of Exeter,
I will try to repost everything I posted previously from memory along with a couple of other related items.
Re: Synarchy which is the "rule by secret societies."
Synarchy is believed by many to be the hidden hand behind the European Union. It is a shadowy political/occult movement developed in the nineteenth century by a French occultist named Alexandre Saint Yves d'Alveydre who adapted the works of one of the great founders of French occultism Fabre d'Olivet (1767-1825), who was also a French author, poet and composer whose Biblical and philosophical hermeneutics influenced many occultists, such as Alphonse Louis Constant ("Eliphas Lévi"), Gerard Encausse ("Papus") and Édouard Schuré.
D'Olivet's interest in Pythagoras and the resulting works started a revival of Neo-Pythagoreanism that would later influence many occultists and new age spirtitualists. He attempted an alternate interpretation of Genesis, based on what he considered to be connections between the Hebrew alphabet and hieroglyphs. The discovery of the Rosetta Stone and the subsequent decipherment of Egyptian hieroglyphs that followed would prove much of this particular work technically mistaken. He was declared a non-person by Napoleon I and condemned by the Pope.
Alexandre Saint Yves d'Alveydre, in turn, had a large number of influential contacts including Victor Hugo, and later knew many of the major names in French occultism such as Marquis Stanislas de Guaita, Joséphin Péladan and Oswald Wirth and was a member of a number of Rosicrucian, and Freemason style orders.
D'Alveydre's followers included Victor Blanchard (1878–1953), Nizier Anthelme Philippe, René A. Schwaller de Lubicz and Emile Dantinne. Saint-Yves' works were also utilised in the development of Theosophy and Rudolf Steiner used Synarchy as a major influence in developing his political thought.
Saint-Yves's ideas influenced the turbulent French politics of the early twentieth century where they served as a model for a number of right-wing groups and also in Mexico where synarchist groups have had a major political role. Theories concerning Synarchist groups also have become a key element in a number of conspiracy theories.
D'Alveydre's main disciple, however, was Gerard Encausse ( a.k.a. Papus ) who established a number of societies based on Synarchist ideas.
As I have mentioned in earlier threads, Papus was not only a member of Helena Petrovna Blavatsy's Theosophical Society before leaving to start his own theosophical group, but he also functioned as a "bishop" in the gnostic church founded by Jules Doinel. Doinel founded his gnostic church after attending a séance at the home of Lady Caithness who ran the Parisian branch of Madame Blavatsky's Theosophical Society.
Rene Guenon who was one of the co-founders of the pagan gnostic "Traditionalist School" knew Papus, joined Papus's organization called the "Faculte des Science Hermetique." and served as a "bishop" in the Alexandrian branch of Doinel's gnostic church. It is noteworthy that the Russian political scientist, Alexander Dugin, who has been dubbed "Putin's Rasputin" was influenced by Rene Guenon.
cont...
cont...
But getting back to Papus, he was a close associate of occultist and German spy Theodor Reuss who was not only instrumental in founding the infamous Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.), but had also participated in an attempt to revive Adam Weishaupt's Bavarian Order of Illuminati in 1880, in Munich. Reuss was also responsible for appointing Aleister Crowley head of the British branch of the O.T.O.
Papus and Reuss exchanged initiations and to this day the Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica remains the eccliastical arm of the Ordo Templi Orientis.
It is to be noted that Papus was a person of influence in pre-revolutionary Russia at the court of Nicholas and Alexandra (Romanov). Papus visited Russia three times, in 1901, 1905, and 1906, serving Tsar Nicholas II and Tsarina Alexandra both as physician and occult consultant. In October 1905, he allegedly conjured up the spirit of Alexander III, the Tsar Nicholas's father, who prophesied that the Tsar would meet his downfall at the hands of revolutionaries. Papus allegedly informed the Tsar that he would be able to magically avert Alexander's prophesy so long as he was alive (his claim proved accurate; Nicholas kept his hold on the throne of Russia until 141 days after Papus's death). Although Papus seems to have served the Tsar and Tsarina in what was essentially a shamanic capacity, he was later curiously concerned about their heavy reliance on occultism to assist them in deciding questions of government. During their later correspondence, he warned them a number of times against the influence of Rasputin.
One of the forms of occultism that Papus was heavily involved in was Martinism which is also known among occultists as "esoteric Christianity." One thing that it is NOT is authentic Christianity. It is a mixed bag of Christian/Jewish Gnosticism
with Martinez de Pasqually's version of Martinism called "Elus-Cohens" including the use of theurgic ritual.
The Martinists - as well as many other occultists of nineteenth-century France - supported a pretender to the French throne who called himself Karl Wilhelm Naundorff......a.k.a. "Louis XVII." But that is another story!
MARTINISM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martinism
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The following article is a gem.
FIGHTING THE SYNARCHY
http://www.specularium.org/component/k2/item/175-fighting-the-synarchy
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I have read that there were many instances of bribery in the founding of the EU - especially in certain countries where the EU was imposed upon the people with no referendum.
Some of the bribe money is said to be sitting in offshore bank accounts. I wonder if any will be found in Panama.
Given President Obama's recent "lecturing" of the Brits who are in favor of "Brexit" and his own opposition to "Brexit," one is led to wonder if any of our illustrious politicians' names are on any of those off shore accounts.
The word in the street is that Obama seeks to become Secretery General of the UN.
Another word in the street is that Benjamin Netanyahu is going to do everything in his power to prevent Obama from ascending THAT catbird seat.
Marko, the following article which was published in the Boston Globe on March 9, 2014 might be of particular interest to you. I am posting it separately so it won't "disappear."
Putin’s long game? Meet the Eurasian Union
It starts in 2015 and sounds like a scheme to rebuild the USSR, but its history is quite different — and troubling for the West
By Leon Neyfakh Globe Staff March 09, 2014
https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/03/09/putin-long-game-meet-eurasian-union/1eKLXEC3TJfzqK54elX5fL/story.html
Anonymous Susanna said...9:04 PM
FIGHTING THE SYNARCHY
http://www.specularium.org/component/k2/item/175-fighting-the-synarchy
Putin’s long game? Meet the Eurasian Union
https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/03/09/putin-long-game-meet-eurasian-union/1eKLXEC3TJfzqK54elX5fL/story.html
Susanna, thanks for the excellent posts.
***Additionally from that boston globe blog:
If you don't want useless eaters to starve? ..... Then implementing a universal basic income will be necessary?
https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2016/02/24/robots-will-take-your-job/5lXtKomQ7uQBEzTJOXT7YO/story.html
http://futurism.com/new-crisp-gene-editing-method-can-edit-single-letters-dna/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_gene_transfer
discovering and manipulating this is the origin of GMO science.
"One study identified approximately 100 of humans' approximately 20,000 total genes which likely resulted from horizontal gene transfer,[53] but this number has been challenged by several researchers arguing these candidate genes for HGT are more likely the result of gene loss combined with differences in the rate of evolution [54]" notice the challenge depends on evolution which is disputable biblically
and otherwise. as for gene loss, how this results for instance in potato genes in humans reported in another article is anyone's guess
Genome Biol. 2015 Mar 13;16(1):50. doi: 10.1186/s13059-015-0607-3. http://www.disclose.tv/news/scientists_find_more_than_100_nonhuman_genes_in_human_genome/115475
Update: Expression of multiple horizontally acquired genes is a hallmark of both vertebrate and invertebrate genomes. Crisp A, Boschetti C, Perry M, Tunnacliffe A, Micklem G. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25785303 (form Wikipedia article.)
I wouldn't worry about human vs. nephilim purity issues or chips changing your DNA
the foregoing plus Neanderthal and denisovan crossbreeding with modern type humans means we aren't all that pure anyway.
9:32 AM
No kidding.
And even not these by name, it will be those cut of the same cloth, coming from somewhere within the ranks from which these 3 operate. The time is ripe for an unholy trinity to get their show on the road, no question about that....
And even if (I meant @ 10:40 AM)
Mark, Ruth of Exeter,
I just remembered another topic I mentioned on my "disappeared" posts that has a significant relevance to the New Age Movement.
This topic has to do with a place called "Agartha" - a legendary city that is said to be located in the earth's core. It is related to the belief in a hollow Earth and is a popular subject in esotericism.
The first "reliable" account of Agartha was first published in Europe by the aforementioned nineteenth-century French occultist Alexandre Saint-Yves d'Alveydre.
According to d'Alveydre, the secret world of "Agartha" and all of its wisdom and wealth "will be accessible for all mankind, when Christianity lives up to the commandments which were once drafted by Moses and God," meaning "When the Anarchy which exists in our world is replaced by the Synarchy."
Saint-Yves gives a lively description of "Agartha" in this book as if it were a place which really exists, situated in the Himalayas in Tibet. Saint-Yves' version of the history of "Agartha" is based upon "revealed" information, meaning received by Saint-Yves himself through "attunement."
During the year 1885 Saint-Yves was supposedly visited by a group of Eastern Initiates, one of them being named prince Hardjij Scharipf. It was then that he associated synarchy with "ascended masters" based in subterranean caverns of Agartha, who supposedly communicated with him telepathically. He wrote about this secret location in his "Mission de l'Inde en Europeä" published in 1886. Worried he had revealed too much he destroyed all but two copies of this book, which did not become available again until 1910.
Saint-Yves believed that an ancient synarchist world government was transferred to Agartha within a hollow Earth at the start of the Kali-Yuga era, around 3,200 B.C. Saint-Yves d'Alveydre was the man who really introduced the concept of Agartha to the Western world.
Agartha is frequently associated with Shambhala which figures prominently in Vajrayana Buddhism and Tibetan Kalachakra teachings and revived in the West by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky and the Theosophical Society. Shambhala is ruled over by Maitreya, the future Buddha. The same Buddha referred to in the infamous "Christ is now here" campaign mentioned by Constance Cumbey in her book HIDDEN DANGERS OF THE RAINBOW.
Earlier, I mentioned that one of the co-founders of the pagan neo-gnostic "Traditionalist School," Rene Guenon, was a disciple of Gerard Encausse ( a.k.a. Papus ) who was in turn the main disciple of Alexandre Saint Yves D'Alveydre.
The following is an article by Rene Guenon posted at a Rosicrucian website.
AGARTHA
by Rene Guenon
http://www.rosicrucian-order.com/revista_agartha.htm
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Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said... 10:21 AM
I wouldn't worry about human vs. nephilim purity issues or chips changing your DNA
the foregoing plus Neanderthal and denisovan crossbreeding with modern type humans means we aren't all that pure anyway.
Though we rest and trust in God, there is an aspect of Revelation 19:20, that should give us pause to be watchful and discerning regarding that mark or be served up to the lake of fire? So being on the right side of history on this issue is a literal matter of heaven and hell.
Susanna,
I do recall reading somewhere that synarchy meant more than Wikipedia describes, it involved the rule by "higher beings" or "ascended masters" or some such thing through the secret societies doing the ruling of the political scene on earth.
Dan Bryan 12:41
I totally agree, but while modern technology could be used to enforce this, so a scannable chip could be embedded, or primitive technology and using only a tattoo,
it would be the same thing, a number like gang colors, identifying not the individual as individual distinct from all others, but the wearer as one of those who has worshipped the antichrist or the image of the antichrist.
I suspect this is going to be a low tech scene otherwise no one would be impressed
by a talking image.
in any case it is apparently given only to those who have worshipped the antichrist,
in order to give them perks the non worshippers don't have.
but since having it is a public statement of accepting him, I don't recommend some
Christian TV program guest of years ago suggestion this could be counterfeited.
Some people are thrilled with any excuse to play games and be covert ops, etc. etc.
this is a fleshly motivation. and can lead to wrong doing.
The damnation resulting from this is God's wrath in response to this, not some
built in techno/genetic whatnot sort of thing. Before the antichrist comes or at his arrival before he starts his trip, an angel flies in the sky warning everyone
to not do so or be damned. Probably many unbelievers will heed this supernatural
warning and flee or die which is why there are hints there are nonbelievers
survivors into the millennium of satan being bound (but Jesus' reign is nowhere
said to be limited to a thousand years, that millennium is just the first part of
Jesus' eternal reign).
The Kingdom of Agarttha: A Journey into the Hollow Earth by Marquis Alexandre Saint-Yves d'Alveydre (Author), Joscelyn Godwin (Introduction)
available as paperback and kindle on Amazon.com
is the translation of Mission de l'Inde en Europeä Susanna mentions.
one can find out from this translation, perhaps, what he was afraid constituted telling too much.
The introduction mentions Jacolliot as introducing the subject of Agartha calling it asgartha, sounds like the idea of asgard is in Jacolliot's mind.
cont...
Another thing I would like to mention in reference to Alexandre Saint Yves d'Alveydre has to do with his tract known as the Mission des Juifs (1884)
The tract itself was not unfavorable to Jews, but material from it was used for another anti-semitic tract entitled The Secret of the Jews, and attributed to Yuliana Glinka, a nineteenth-century occultist, who, through her uncle, General Orzheyevsky, became involved with Pyotr Rachkovsky of the Okhrana, the Imperial Russian secret service.
Yuliana spent most of her time in Paris and became a star of the Parisian occult underground, attending seances and consorting with the disciples of occult leader Eliphas Levi (Alphonse Louis Constant). She was also an associate of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky
When the Russian nobles she approached first heard that the aforementioned tract entitled The Secret of the Jews had been "dictated by the dead," they wanted nothing to do with it.
However, after three years passed. Yuliana tried again in 1895. No mention of the dearly departed on this occasion. She claimed that it had come from "the secret capital of the Jews in Nice (!!!)."
At last, she had some takers--Alexei Sukhotin, a family friend from Orel; Filip Stepanov; and Sergei Nilus, a Russian mystic she had met at Biarritz in France. The public was suddenly a little more receptive. What made the difference? Answer: L'affaire Dreyfus, the 1894 court case involving French Army captain Alfred Dreyfus. This case put "the Jewish Question" on front pages throughout Europe. It also influenced Austrian journalist Theodore Herzl to found the Zionist movement.
In 1902, Yuliana tried to market it yet again. Now it was called The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Russian journalist M. Menshikov "reported how a lady of fashion (Yuliana) had invited him to her house to see a document of vast importance. Seated in an elegant apartment and speaking perfect French, the lady informed him that she was in direct contact with the world beyond the grave and proceeded to induct him into the mysteries of Theosophy... Finally, she initiated him into the mysteries of the Protocols."
cont...
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A year later, in August 1903, the newspaper Znamya (Russian for The Banner) published Yuliana's strange little document, thereby launching The Protocols on its worldwide odyssey.
In 1919, the Times of London revealed uncanny similarities between The Protocols and an 1864 satire by a French lawyer named Maurice Joly. It's possible that Yuliana read the original Joly pamphlet as a young woman during her first trip to Paris and later used it along with the aforementioned d'Alveydre material to concoct her anti-Semitic "revelation." It is interesting to note that Gerard Encause(a.k.a. “Papus”), who was an important Freemason, belonged to the same Masonic Lodge as Maurice Joly.
One last thing....Yuliana Glinka was not the only occultist working as a secret intelligence agent for her government. At that time, there were several occultists who were also members of their governments' secret services/intelligence agencies.
Theodor Reuss was suspected of being such an agent. There were also some who believed that Madame Blavatsky was a Russian agent like her sister occultist Yuliana Glinka.
For example, the brother of the philosopher Vladimir Solovyov, whose name was Vsevolod Sergeyevich Solovyov.
Oldest son of the historian Sergei Solovyov and brother of the philosopher Vladimir Solovyov, Vsevolod turned to writing historical fiction in 1876 with Princess Ostrozhskaya. He visited Paris in 1884 where he met Blavatsky and mixed with other people in the Paris occult scene, such as Juliette Adam, Vera Jelikovsky, Blavatsky's sister, and Emilie de Morsier. By 1886 he had become a bitter and disillusioned enemy of the founder of theosophy. He abandoned his plans to promote theosophy in Russia and denounced Blavatsky as a failed spy of the Okhrana. At the time he was intimately involved with Yuliana Glinka, who worked for Pyotr Rachkovsky, Paris head of the Okhrana.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vsevolod_Solovyov
Susanna
Thank you very much for that. What a mare's nest! Could I just clarify that in your opinion - which I would value - is the idea of rule by secret societies simply something produced by the fevered brains of the occultists, or does it have some validity? Is it a ruse to hide the dirty dealings of national governments, with spies posing as magicians a la John Dee - or is there more to it than that? And where do 'principalities and powers' come into it? I realise that this is a tall order!
Ruth,
Good questions indeed - ones I struggle to answer, and I tend to waffle back and forth, leaning one way for a while, then leaning the other. How much *do* they influence history? Maybe their influence waxes and wanes. Of one thing I am certain - they are not the ONLY wielders of the levers of power.
Awaiting Susanna's reply...
Mark and Ruth of Exeter,
Historically, these occultists in the past have actually influenced the rulers of the world - just as they do today with their occultist views that are tricked out in "scientific" or "secular" terminology.
For example, Papus, who was a physician as well as an occultist wormed his way into the court of Russia with his faith healer friend and mentor Anthelme Nizier Philippe (a.k.a. "Monsieur Philippe"). Tsar Nicholas and Tsarina Alexandra who were involved in the occult became enslaved to it on account of their being unable to give birth to a son and heir.
Later, after their son was born and Papus and Monsieur Philippe fell out of favor due to court machinations, Nicholas and Alexandra became enslaved to the demonic "starets" (faith healer) Rasputin on account of his abilities to relieve their son from life-threatening bleeding episodes due to the fact that he was a hemophiliac. There are those who say that if it were not for Rasputin, there would have been no Russian Revolution.
I recall a program that once aired on EWTN about Rasputin. the narrator said that Rasputin had powers that could only have come from Hell.
Even earlier than that, there were French occultists who were members of the gnostic Johannite sect who tried to infiltrate the Holy Alliance which included the monarchist great powers of Russia, Austria and Prussia. The intention of the alliance was to restrain republicanism and secularism in Europe in the wake of the devastating French Revolutionary Wars, and the alliance nominally succeeded in this up until the Crimean War (1853–1856).
The Johannite sect was founded by an apostate priest named Bernard-Raymond Fabre Palaprat after the French Revolution. One of the female members - a woman named Madame Boucher ( a.k.a. Sister Salome ) had succeeded in worming her way into the court of Tsar Alexander and functioning as a sort of "seer." The story is told by the occultist Eliphas Levi ( Alphonse Louis Constant ) in Waite's translation of Levi's book entitled THE HISTORY OF MAGIC. After Madame Boucher was supplanted at the Russian court by another "seer" named Barbara Krudener, she returned to France and became involved in setting up a satanic cult headed by a sinister character named Eugene Vintras. The founding of this satanic sect suspiciously coincided with the arrival on the scene of a pretender to the French throne named Karl Wilhelm Naundorff - a.k.a. Louis XVII whose claim to the French throne the cult supported......as did most of the occult underground of the period.
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If Naundorff's claim to the French throne had been validated, the Johannites might have been better able to infiltrate the Holy Alliance since the REAL Louis XVII was the son of guillotined Louis XVI and the Austrian Habsburg Princess Marie Antoinette.
The Naundorffs are still around to this very day and are still insisting that they are the legitimate Bourbon heirs to the French throne even though DNA tests are said to have proven that Naundorff could not have been the son of Marie Antoinette.
To answer your question, the idea of rule by secret societies does indeed have some validity......especially insofar as the name of the game is power. The occultist unlike the sincere Christian, seeks to COMMAND deity an make deity do his bidding. The demons may allow their devotees to be duped into believing that they are "commanding" deity and they may even be allowed to see "results"......for a season. But for that "season" of power, the unrepentant occultist will pay dearly for all eternity as a slave to the very demons he thought he was "commanding."
Where "principalities and powers" play a role, they ordinarily do so in an obscure and hidden manner. In fact, they act in such a way as to make it appear that whatever evil schemes are afoot are all of human agency.
When all is said and done, I would suggest that if you want to see the influence of the occult in modern times, pay attention to the influence of the "Traditionalist School" on Alexander Dugin. He has been called "Putin's Rasputin." While it is hard to say just how much influence Dugin actually has on Putin, it is nevertheless interesting to learn about the occult voices of the past that are influencing his thinking now. Among the occultists Dugin admires is Julius Evola who was a practitioner of black magic.
Aleksandr Dugin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin
JULIUS EVOLA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Evola
P.S. Around 1939 a book entitled Ravallette: The Rosicrucian's Story was republished by R. Swynburne Clymer.
The reason for the republication of this book was because members of the Rosicrucian Fraternity were in the crosshairs of the House Un-American Activities Committee after the publication of a photograph on the front page of a prominent newspaper depicting H.Spencer Lewis on very cozy terms with Benito Mussolini.
Clymer spent significant time explaining that HIS Rosicrucian Fraternity was not the same as Spencer's Rosicrucian group.
Clymer's Rosicrucian group was associated with Papus, the Martinists, Eliphas Levi and the gnostic "church." And even Alert Pike who plagiarized the works of Eliphas Levi in his book Morals and Dogma..
http://blogs.christianpost.com/guest-views/debunking-the-russia-war-of-gog-and-magog-myth-8754/
"Many end times aficionados believe that Magog represents Russia and that Russia will soon come to invade Israel. However, the ancient Assyrians had dealings with Magog, and their Court records clearly identify Magog and it is not Russia.....
"The Assyrian Court records show dealings with Magog, Meshech, Tubal, and Togarmah (Ezekiel 38:3-6), the nations that stretched across ancient Asia Minor (modern Turkey) from west to east.... Gomer (Ezekiel 38:6), an enemy of the Assyrians invaded Asia Minor by coming down from an area around the northeast shore of the Black Sea. Archeologists know that the militant leader called "Gog" in Ezekiel 38/39 led a confederacy of these nations against invading Gomer....
Gog is ...Gyges of Lydia. In Gyges of Lydia we have the leader the Assyrians called "Gugu, King of Ludu," and "Gugu of Magugu," who is referred to in the Bible as Gog of Magog. "Magog" simply means "the land of Gog." ... The Assyrians dealt with Lydia through Meshech, who were subsequently defeated by Gomer, and thus the Assyrians finally came to deal with Lydia directly. ...
It has been mistakenly believed that ..."Magog" in western Asia Minor was the ancient "tribal name" of the "Scythians," a group of Iranian speaking nomadic tribes from Central Asia (north of Iran) that traveled across the Russian steppes, and came to live in the territory north of the Black Sea. Then, ...again in error, it has been believed [they] were the progenitors of the modern Russians. In Foes from the Northern Frontier Dr. Edwin Yamauchi, a professor of history at Miami University in Ohio....
"Even if one were to transliterate the Hebrew rosh as a proper name ... rather than translate it as 'chief' ....it can have nothing to do with modern 'Russia.'... for the modern name is based upon the name Rus, which was brought into the region of Kiev, north of the Black Sea, by the Vikings only in the Middle Ages."
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The erroneous belief that Russia is Magog can be traced back to a small group of 18th and 19th century theologians who wrote long before the primary evidence from the ancient Assyrian records was discovered,...they based their assertions on secondary sources, historical works written over 500 years after the time of Ezekiel, ....In his book The Antiquity of the Jews Josephus says that the Greeks called the "Magogites" the "Scythians" despite the fact that the Greeks did not call the Magogites the Scythians. In this same passage there are other errors in the identification of other ancient nations of Asia Minor. ... This passage also comes into conflict with ...Herodotus who after living with each group wrote about the Scythians and the Lydians in his book The History. ...were they the result of alterations to the few copies of Josephus' work that existed in medieval times? (Jews did not preserve the writings of Josephus because they considered him to be a traitor.) ...
Similarly, ...Pliny in his work The Natural History that connects Magog with the Scythians is another forgery. Nineteenth century Scottish Reverend John Cumming is credited as being a leading promoter of the Bible interpretation that calls for Russia invading Israel. In his book The Destiny of Nations Cumming quotes a passage...he purposefully altered.
Reverend Cumming on page 126 wrote: "Pliny says 'Hierapolis taken by the Scythians was afterwards called Magog.'"
Pliny on page 439 actually wrote: "Bambyx (a part of Lydia) the other name of which is Hierapolis, but by the Syrians called Magog."
Pliny's statement has been misquoted by Cumming in a way that makes it seem that Magog was related to the Scythians rather than the Lydians...."
I think it's safe to say that there's a lot of popular eschatology today that is derived from erroneous interpretations and even false or fake documents.
It's always easy to "shoe-horn" current events into a preconceived prophecy timeline that we use as our starting point for interpretation.
My youth pastor told us to always start with the obvious first, and work outward from there, when looking into prophecy. If you later arrive at a conclusion that contradicts the obvious, then you took a wrong turn somewhere. (Or the "obvious" that you started with was wrong, and you have to start all over again...)
Eschatology is certainly not a clear-cut area of study!
Well, maybe not a LOT of eschatology is from erroneous sources, but some. Our assumptions certainly need to be inspected from time to time.
Marko,
Re:Our assumptions certainly need to be inspected from time to time.
Correct. The things I am posting are from the point of view historical data and historical analysis based on that data.
Regarding eschatology, Irenaeus warns us in his work ADVERSUS HAERESES not to presume to know the name of the antichrist:
Although certain as to the number of the name of Antichrist, yet we should come to no rash conclusions as to the name itself, because this number is capable of being fitted to many names. Reasons for this point being reserved by the Holy Spirit. Antichrist's reign and death.
1. Such, then, being the state of the case, and this number being found in all the most approved and ancient copies [of the Apocalypse], and those men who saw John face to face bearing their testimony [to it]; while reason also leads us to conclude that the number of the name of the beast, [if reckoned] according to the Greek mode of calculation by the [value of] the letters contained in it, will amount to six hundred and sixty and six; that is, the number of tens shall be equal to that of the hundreds, and the number of hundreds equal to that of the units (for that number which [expresses] the digit six being adhered to throughout, indicates the recapitulations of that apostasy, taken in its full extent, which occurred at the beginning, during the intermediate periods, and which shall take place at the end)—I do not know how it is that some have erred following the ordinary mode of speech, and have vitiated the middle number in the name, deducting the amount of fifty from it, so that instead of six decads they will have it that there is but one. [I am inclined to think that this occurred through the fault of the copyists, as is wont to happen, since numbers also are expressed by letters; so that the Greek letter which expresses the number sixty was easily expanded into the letter Iota of the Greeks.] Others then received this reading without examination; some in their simplicity, and upon their own responsibility, making use of this number expressing one decad; while some, in their inexperience, have ventured to seek out a name which should contain the erroneous and spurious number. Now, as regards those who have done this in simplicity, and without evil intent, we are at liberty to assume that pardon will be granted them by God. But as for those who, for the sake of vainglory, lay it down for certain that names containing the spurious number are to be accepted, and affirm that this name, hit upon by themselves, is that of him who is to come; such persons shall not come forth without loss, because they have led into error both themselves and those who confided in them. Now, in the first place, it is loss to wander from the truth, and to imagine that as being the case which is not; then again, as there shall be no light punishment [inflicted] upon him who either adds or subtracts anything from the Scripture, Revelation 22:19 under that such a person must necessarily fall. Moreover, another danger, by no means trifling, shall overtake those who falsely presume that they know the name of Antichrist. For if these men assume one [number], when this [Antichrist] shall come having another, they will be easily led away by him, as supposing him not to be the expected one, who must be guarded against......read more...
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103530.htm
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Marko,
My last post "disappeared." Here is the gist of what I said.
Re:Our assumptions certainly need to be inspected from time to time.
That is absolutely correct. As I am sure you are aware, my posts have been from the point of view of historical data and historical analysis based on that data.
Regarding eschatology, paying attention to the "signs of the times" is one thing, but Church Father Irenaeus warned us centuries ago ( see Adversus Haereses, 5.30.1 ) of the dangers of playing the game of "spot the antichrist." A wrong guess could prevent us from recognizing and avoiding the real "man of sin" when he makes his entrance onto the stage of world history.
Ruth of Exeter,
More on what you asked:
is the idea of rule by secret societies simply something produced by the fevered brains of the occultists, or does it have some validity? Is it a ruse to hide the dirty dealings of national governments, with spies posing as magicians a la John Dee - or is there more to it than that? And where do 'principalities and powers' come into it? I realise that this is a tall order!
Here is more on Saint-Yves d'Alveydre who originated what has come to be known a s "synarchy" ( "rule by secret societies"). In my opinion, when all instances of fraud are excluded, the "principalities" and "powers" are likely the so-called "ascended masters" who communicated "telepathically" with occultists like d'Alveydre..... especially on account of the fact ( theologically speaking ) that only angels and God can communicate with others in this manner.
Alexandre St. Yves d'Alveydre, together with contemporaries like Eliphas Levi, Maitre Philippe, and Fabre d'Olivet, belonged to the most influential spiritual teachers/philosophers of France in the 19th century. Saint-Yves may be looked upon as a 19th century profound thinker, philosopher and mystic.
Being an occultist and alchemist, Saint-Yves believed in the existence of spiritually superior beings. These 'beings' could be contacted telepathically.
Apparently Saint-Yves claimed that he was in touch with these 'superiors' himself, as a matter of fact the principles of Synarchy were partially received telepathically from these Masters who lived in the mysterious underworld realm known as Agartha. Thus d'Alveydre introduced the concept of "Agartha" to the Western world.
The myth of "Agartha" is also known as "Shambhala", as it was known in India, the underworld realm peopled by initiates and lead by 'the Masters", Masters who are the Spiritual leaders of humanity.
Agartha is the great Asian University of the Initiates of the Greater Mysteries. Their 'Mahatma' ('Great Soul') plays the part of the supreme spiritual leader of humanity.
According to Saint-Yves the secret world of "Agartha" and all of its wisdom and wealth "will be accessible for all mankind, when Christianity lives up to the commandments which were once drafted by Moses and Jesus, meaning ' When the Anarchy which exists in our world is replaced by the Synarchy".
Saint-Yves gives a 'lively' description of "Agartha" in this book as if it were a place which really exists, situated in the Himalayas in Tibet. Saint-Yves' version of the history of "Agartha" is based upon ' revealed' information, meaning received by Saint-Yves himself through 'attunement'. However, several French 'reliable' sources state that Saint-Yves was NOT a medium. We've seen that Saint-Yves used a medium, a certain Marie Victoire, when he wrote the "Archeometre". It seems that "the sources" disagree with each other when it comes to Saint-Yves' gifts.
St. Yves d'Alveydre was incredibly influential in the development of 19th century occultism. The concept of Agartha and its Masters had a big influence on the teachings of Blavatsky, founder of the Theosophic Society . Blavatsky also 'promoted' one of Saint-Yves' other concepts, namely the idea of 'root races' ; a 'root race' dominated a long period in history, "destined to be supplanted by the next superior race ". The concept of "root races" can also be found in the writings of Alice A.Bail, Rudolf Steiner and Max Heindel.
Saint-Yves believed the Atlantis was an advanced superior civilization. According to Saint-Yves the Sphinx was built by the Atlanteans, many thousands of years before the rise of Egypt. Saint-Yves placed the downfall of Atlantis at around 12,000 B.C.
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Another source of inspiration for Saint-Yves were the medieval Knights Templar, which he regarded as the ultimate Synarchists in history. After all, the Knights Templar exerted control over the political, financial, and religious life of medieval Europe. These three pillars of medieval society corresponded with Saint-Yves' model of Synarchy.
Saint-Yves was influenced by the many neo-Templar societies that were flourishing in his day. He incorporated many of their ideas, in particular from a Masonic-Templar order called "the Rite of Strict Observance", which was founded around 1740-1750 by German Karl von Hund. Saint Yves borrowed the concept of "Unknown Superiors" from Von Hund , however he expanded the concept into "spiritually advanced beings that lived in a remote part of Tibet", aka "Agartha".
In his youth Saint-Yves (who was of French origin) apparently was not easy to handle and because of his "insubordination" he was, at the age of 13, taken under the custody of 2 professors, Frederic-Auguste of Metz and the Abbot Rosseau. Encouraged by his teachers, he started to read Joseph de Maistre and learned about Fabre d'Olivet. The young Alexandre wanted to study literature, but his father decided otherwise; His son should aim for a career in the military.
At a naval-academy in Brest, where he studied medicine (which his professor, Frederic-Auguste of Metz, had advised him to do), he contracts the blackpox (or "black variola") and he leaves for Jersey to recover from the disease. There he met Pelleport and Victor Hugo. It is said that Victor Hugo, a famous French 19th century novelist, was involved with a group of "Rose-Croix" (rosicrucians) of which Maurice Barres (a later member of the "Ordre Kabbalistique de la Rose+Croix" and of the Supreme Council of Papus' Martinist Order) was also a member.
Around this time Saint-Yves d'Alveydre also visited London for the first time.
http://www.crystalinks.com/styves.html
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Re:Is it a ruse to hide the dirty dealings of national governments, with spies posing as magicians a la John Dee
In his book EVIDENCE OF SATAN IN THE MODERN WORLD, the late Msgr. Leon Cristiani discusses the idea of a possible "collective possession" of entire countries - such as Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia.
This is not a unique idea......especially if there were occultists/satanists or occult/satanic groups invoking evil spirits behind the scenes while calling them something other than evil spirits.....like d'Alveydre, who called the spirits with whom he communicated "ascended masters."
In 1634, an entire convent was said to be possessed at Loudun and following an investigation by the Catholic Church, a local apostate priest named Father Urbain Grandier was accused of summoning the evil spirits. He was eventually convicted of the crimes of sorcery and burned at the stake.
In his book entitles THE POSSESSED ( a.k.a. THE DEVILS ) Fyodor Dostoyevsky hints at this very theme of the collective possession of Russia. In the chapter entitled "Ivan the Crown Prince," the radical anarchist murderer Verkhovensky, knowing that legitimacy is socialism's perennial "bete noir," tries to persuade the petty nobleman Stavrogin to play the role of a messianic entity named Ivan the Crown Prince for the purpose of becoming the credible spokesperson for the Russian branch of world socialism after all manner of false reports and rumors about bogus wonders and miracles performed by Ivan the Crown Prince are spread all over the country.
Dostoyevsky's novel is based on the true story of a murder committed by a disciple of Mikhail Bakunin, Sergey Netchayev who was an anarchist and self professed Satanist. Anarchy is the "holy grail' of communism when the state is supposed to "whither away" hailing the advent of lawless "utopia."
Netchayev wrote the CATECHISM OF A REVOLUTIONARY which later inspired Saul Alinsky.
Dear Susanna, Marko, Christine,
I find that the errors in eschatology mainly come from misinterpretation of prophecy.
The more I read it the more my thoughts change.
My eschatological view is different than all that presently exist. However if I think I have 'a lock' on eschatology, I should go write a book! Then it will be refuted in the same amount of time that it takes to write it.
I was taught growing up the pretrib rapture thing, but never believed it as I went home, read the same scriptures in context, and found something different.
Margaret McDonald’s Vision - Rapture is the basis for this theology, however I contend that the misinterpretation is the basis for the pretrib rapture theology.
http://dbreflections.blogspot.com/2010/10/margaret-mcdonalds-vision.html
Marko, you are absolutely correct that we need to be open to the Holy Spirit to change our wrong thought, or teaching, exchanging it for truth. I think it silly for people to have a fixed view on something that is seen 'through a glass darkly'.
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Dan, Marko,
Re:I find that the errors in eschatology mainly come from misinterpretation of prophecy.
The more I read it the more my thoughts change....
...Marko, you are absolutely correct that we need to be open to the Holy Spirit to change our wrong thought, or teaching, exchanging it for truth. I think it silly for people to have a fixed view on something that is seen 'through a glass darkly'.
Spot on!
The Book of Revelation describes a pattern that has happened again and again with varying intensity throughout the Christian era.
Fr. Vincent Micali in his excellent book THE ANTICHRIST discusses the "mini-antichrists" that have come and gone since the time of the Apostles. These "mini-antichrists" are called "types" of THE antichrist who will recapitulate in himself the evils of all of his predecessors.
Moreover, Irenaeus has explained that if anyone pays careful attention to the prophetic books of Scripture he will find that the chastisements inflicted specifically on Egypt in the days of Moses will be inflicted on the world universally in the latter days.
4. As a matter of course, therefore, these things were done beforehand in a type, and from them was the tabernacle of God constructed; those persons justly receiving them, as I have shown, while we were pointed out beforehand in them, -- [we] who should afterwards serve God by the things of others. For the whole exodus of the people out of Egypt, which took place under divine guidance,(7) was a type and image of the exodus of the Church which should take place from among the Gentiles;(8) and for this cause He leads it out at last from this world into His own inheritance, which Moses the servant of God did not [bestow], but which Jesus the Son of God shall give for an inheritance. And if any one will devote a dose attention to those things which are stated by the prophets with regard to the [time of the] end, and those which John the disciple of the Lord saw in the Apocalypse,(9) he will find that the nations [are to] receive the same plagues universally, as Egypt then did particularly.
https://carm.org/irenaeus-heresies4-21-41
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I know people thought they were living in "Revelation times" back in the 1930s and leading up to WWII. Famines, plagues of locusts stripping entire states of everything green, the rise of Hitler...
you'd have to look for this happening world wide. and other things. Jesus said
there would wars and rumors (or reports) of wars but the end is not yet. More
like maybe the red horse and its rider or the beginning of the pale horse and its
rider.
Thank you, Susanna, for sharing so much of your research! It will take some reading and re-reading. But as you say so importantly, Scripture gives us those types and shadows as our lenses through which to study and assess the mass of facts.
I'm wondering 0n a slightly, well, not really different subject- is Catholicism suffering anything similar to the Hebrew Roots movement, which is enchanting so many Protestants? It is based on Kabbalah, and is aimed at turning believers back to Moses, while down-playing Christ. Same old, same old, I know. But perhaps in its nature Catholicism is less vulnerable to that sort of thing?
https://joyfullygrowingingrace.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/doublemindedness-in-the-hebrew-roots-movement-the-use-of-kabbalah-and-gematria/
http://www.seekgod.ca/embracnokab.htm
and according to a person who used to be on the chatroom in Constance's show on Saturdays, the satanist crew were using the kabbalah interest of HRM to lure some out of HRM progressively into the occult and finally, step by step, into satanism.
Ruth of Exeter,
Re:I'm wondering 0n a slightly, well, not really different subject- is Catholicism suffering anything similar to the Hebrew Roots movement, which is enchanting so many Protestants?
If they are, it probably is because of Frankist infiltration. Have you ever heard of the Frankists?
We have the Association of Hebrew Catholics, but there are light years of difference between Hebrew Catholics who are authentic Jewish converts to Roman Catholicism and who have been allowed to preserve whatever of their Hebrew ethnicity and traditions that do not conflict with the Roman Catholic Christian faith.....and the Frankists who are satanic and heretical even by Orthodox Jewish standards. I cannot speak for Protestants, but I would venture a guess that the same standard holds true for Jewish converts to Protestant communions
The Frankists are quite another story. They are the heirs of a Jewish apostate who claimed to be the "messiah." His name was Sabbatai Tzvi. His "false prophet" was Nathan of Giza.
Sabbatai Tzvi was followed by Jakob Frank who claimed to be the "reincarnation" of Tzvi.
Unlike traditional Judaism, which provides a set of detailed guidelines called halakha that are scrupulously followed by observant Jews and regulate many aspects of life, Frank claimed that "all laws and teachings will fall" and following antinomianism asserted that one's most important personal obligation of every person was the transgression of every boundary. Some called this "holy sinning" or "redemption through sin." In Frankism, orgies featured prominently in their rituals.
One of the hallmarks of Frankism was their PRETENDED conversion to Roman Catholicism while secretly practicing their Frankist rituals......similar to the earlier PRETENDED "conversions" of the Sabbataean heretics to Islam which led to their being called the "donmeh" in Turkey.
The late Carrie Tomko discovered the link between the Frankists ( Asiatic Brethren) and certain irregular Masonic Lodges in the person of Moses Dobrushka ( a.k.a. Junius Frey) who was guillotined during the French Rervolution.
http://carrietomko.blogspot.com/search?q=Asiatic+Brethren
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After Frankism made its way into France largely by way of the Polish emigrees, many of its ideas and obscene rituals were embraced by the occult secret societies of the 19th century....most notably Eugene Vintras whom I have already mentioned earlier......and who was associated with Andrzej Towiansky.
Scroll down to page 23 at the following site.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/198055962/Milko-Bogaard-ECCLESIA-GNOSTICA-Gnostic-Church-History
It has gotten a little quiet here so I thought to repost this link and questions.
Here is an interesting video. It is an extremely long video.
There is a big push in Israel to build a temple and start sacrifices once again.
Has the Ark been recovered? When will it show up?
What will be the consequences?
Will people then have to choose between the law of God and the law of man when the 10 commandments come into view?
What of the blood found on the mercy seat, it being distinctly different?
How will the Jew have to respond should they have irrefutable proof that Jesus was the Messiah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTNGEeXs_CY
from the comments section
"While Wyatt won a devoted following from some fundamentalist Christians, he was not considered credible by professional archaeologists and biblical scholars. The Garden Tomb Association of Jerusalem state in a letter they issue to visitors on request:The Council of the Garden Tomb Association (London) totally refute the claim of Mr Wyatt to have discovered the original Ark of the Covenant or any other biblical artifacts within the boundaries of the area known as the Garden Tomb Jerusalem. Though Mr Wyatt was allowed to dig within this privately owned garden on a number of occasions (the last occasion being the summer of 1991) staff members of the Association observed his progress and entered his excavated shaft. As far as we are aware nothing was ever discovered to support his claims nor have we seen any evidence of biblical artifacts or temple treasures.[citation needed]Archaeologist Joe Zias of Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) has stated that "Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed excavation in Israel or Jerusalem. In order to excavate one must have at least a BA in archaeology which he does not possess despite his claims to the contrary. ... [His claims] fall into the category of trash which one finds in tabloids such as the National Enquirer, Sun etc."[14]Wyatt's official organization Wyatt Archaeological Research (WAR), claims that the IAA have always been aware of the excavations and issued "verbal permits" for most of them and official permits to all WAR excavations since 2002.[citation needed] Nevertheless, the only evidence of WAR involvement in a legitimate excavation sanctioned by the IAA relates to WAR part-funding of a 2005 dig.[15]Wyatt's fellow evangelicals have also been critical: Answers in Genesis called Wyatt's claims "fraudulent",[16] and one Seventh-day Adventist professor of archaeology sums up Wyatt's Noah's Ark and anchor stones claims in these words: "While the Durupinar site is about the right length for Noah's ark, [it is] ... too wide to be Noah's ark. Wyatt has claimed that the "boat-shapedness" of this formation can only be explained by its being Noah's ark, but both Shea and Morris have offered other plausible explanations. Likewise, Wyatt has argued that the standing stones he has found are anchors, while Terian is aware of similar stones outside the Durupinar site area that were pagan cultic stones later converted by Christians for Christian purposes."[17]"
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2008/06/Is-Mount-Sinai-in-Saudi-Arabia.aspx#Article
I don't disbelieve Wyatt's claims.
I think he presented the Jewish authorities with a major hurdle to overcome to have their ark but...what to do with Jesus? It's all gone underground because it is too problematic for the Jew and Arab alike, both dug in in this conflict, both being put in a bad light if the truth comes out. The rightful heirs to this land are the Jews because god said so. And those trying to carve it up as a political prize are really in for it.
I think that is just like God to give this ancient conflict a true "hot potato" to contend with and when the truth is unveiled it will be incredible. Sets the stage nicely in the prophetic.
When Christ rules on the earth from Jerusalem, which is not far out there now at all, there will be no dry eyes of any of the peoples at the truth they did not, could not, would not handle, when all is revealed.
Jesus said: Behold the fig tree..the fig leaves (symbolic of Israel throughout Scripture) are out and summer is nigh. Israel back in the land, after 2000 years absent is amazing timing, leading right up to current events. That generation (that's us) in Luke 21:28-32 will see these things come to pass. The Jubliee is 2017 for Israel-a year of release. It is 50 years from 1947-48 to 2017-18. Release of what exactly is what I ask... Also the 70th year anniversary (a 7 multiplied) is significant because 7 is the number of completion in the Bible. 2017 is 100 years from 1917's Balfor Declaration that got the ball rolling for the return of the Jews to their ancient homeland. The whole ball of wax makes sense in the timing in our day when you compare Matthew 25, Luke 21, and Mark 13 and look at Daniel 11 & 12 along side them (and many many others also). Globalism is now here to stay because it is time for it, until it's not, when Christ does away with that whole system and it's anti-christ (with his shortened time) at the helm.
Watch carefully, and hang on to your hats. Know Jesus, first and foremost. Truly know Him as Savior and Lord. One day it will be too late to repent and believe. Now is the time, friends. He is coming back much sooner than people think.
Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...
8:01 PM
Blogger Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2008/06/Is-Mount-Sinai-in-Saudi-Arabia.aspx#Article
Thanks for the link, there definitely is allot of research that has gone into determining the path of the Exodus. I would hold the discussion in the body of this paper with greater weight than that of the note you quoted from the comment section.
However, I see no compelling arguments in the paper related to the ark's location as told by Wyatt.
Just because Wyatt was of no education or pedigree, does not preclude his use by God to do what he claims. God has used many people, most often with out pedigree.
Wyatt's story line of Christ's blood dripping onto the mercy seat to really fantastic, and if proven so, at some date, it will create an earth quake equivalent to that of the crucifixion. Wyatt's story line is more believable than the Ethiopian one.
If he in-fact discussed his findings with authorities, then I a sure they have followed up in his claims by now, and are cautious due to the ramifications of such a find.
Oops....I see I skipped a line and point I wanted to make as to the 50 year Jubilee. It is 1967 when Jerusalem was back in Israeli hands and 2017 marks 50 years since then. 1947-48 was the return to the land so that will be the 70 year anniversary next year.
The whole thing, everything about that land and those people the Jews are a miracle, start to finish and God will all finish this...sooner not later than people know because too unread and or too distracted to really look at this with fresh eyes.
The emphasis on Israel as starting the clock ticking strikes me as problematic.
For one thing, the 6 day war when they acquired Jerusalem and the west bank, might
be more appropriate as a count starting point.
a generation would be all still living from that time. Anyone conceived in either
1947-48 or in 1967 and even one still alive at whatever time after that would count
as the generation not passing away.
But another problem is that the remark about this generation is in context more
or less of the various wars and cataclysms. So it is possible the meaning is more
like the generation that sees all this combined at once in an unprecedented
way, is the generation at issue.
one scenario based on Daniel 7 would mean about 157 to 167 years from either 1947-48
or from 1967. Another scenario would take 587 years to play out. or a thousand.
This emphasis on a time frame based on assumptions and typology and leaving out
other possible interpretations risks some losing faith if things don't happen as
expected. Same problem with the pre trib rapture. Imminent arrival is more applicable
to the time frame when the antichrist is already doing the 3 1/2 (NOT 7) year
tribulation. you can't tell the day and hour, but you can sure calculate the month,
maybe the week of The Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
typology and so forth centering on Israel more recently and on other matters in
the 1800s has been used for date setting in the past, something we are warned
against and that never played out right yet.
the danger of an error of understanding here resulting in loss of faith strikes
me as a serious issue.
meanwhile, whether Jesus is due any time or not, we need to live AS IF He is due at
any time. after all, each of us could die at any moment and meet Jesus in the
afterlife before the Second Coming.
Dan,
Wyatt's story of the blood - which kept me awake with excitement the night I first read it online - is anomalous because the Garden Tomb people deny he dug there and because the Wyatt museum, when I asked the main man there by phone about the Israeli laboratory that did the genetic testing on the blood, said he had no record of it. He wouldn't budge from "no comment". Draw your own conclusions.
As for the Ark, Ararat is an isolated peak but the Ark landed amid the mountains (plural) of RRT, and better scholars than Wyatt take this to be Urartu, which makes much better sense. Indeed there has been an Orthodox monastery atop one peak, Cudi Dagh, and Muslims believe the Ark came to rest there. The archeologist David Rohl claims that there is ancient pitch there (used in waterproofing), although the stuff is not local.
12:35 AM
You should weigh everything by Scripture. Not your pre-prescribed view of it.
Nobody set a date, just things to see and humbly ask God wisdom for. You should try that.
Jesus said, Watch. He did not say we will know everything. If we knew everything, like you adamantly maintain that you do (that's problematic), then we wouldn't need faith now would we?
Real believers walk by faith and not by sight, that has always been true.
Anon. 10:59am....
I'm more and more trying to focus on *what* to look for, rather than *when* to look for it, and have pretty much given up trying to match events to timetables. It's still interesting to follow, but I'm not spending as much time thinking about it as I used to.
I think when the Antichrist is revealed, those who are walking by the Spirit will know. When it comes time to "take the mark", again, it will be a CLEAR decision by all, to follow God, or turn away from Him forever. It's not something that they will sneakily make you take without your knowledge. It will involve willfully identifying yourself with one side or the other.
You are right, Marko. But the there is much *what* to be looking at right this minute, instead of worrying about anybody's *when*....
Always look at the Bible themes where it involves Israel and you'll notice lots of *what* to see.
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