Thursday, January 14, 2016

I'm not the only one with these challenges . . . Please BE PATIENT

I've spent extensive time over the past two years reviewing my library and archives.  I've scanned enormous amounts of material, made extensive notes, ordered discovered potential references.  As a result, I've got lots of irons in the fire and am frustrated trying all I need to do in this human body.  Going through my library, I recently found a reference that probably proves I'm not the only one, neither am I the first and probably not the last.  Reading an internet reference to Theosophical bent - "religious scholar" and lecturer, Mircea Eliade, originally a Romanian based academic, I discovered he had similar woes.  I also discovered that what I was trying to do was probably larger than Eliade's post-war 1949 frustrating project of classifying 9,000 projects was.  The passage that inspired me to order and review Journal I, 1945-1948 of his journal was a quoted unfavorable reference to Alice Bailey and her husband Foster Bailey.  Quoted below is the part I found interesting:

Mircea Eliade - Journal I - Alice Bailey references are on page 160 of this book.

At teatime, Mme. Froebe tells me about visions experienced by
certain eccentric guests, among them Alice Bailey, who saw a monk
repeatedly entering the window on the right (all this happened in the
room where we're staying, on the second floor, the room in which I'm
writing this) . Alice Bailey (what an able adventuress! I met her in
London in 1940; my Polish translator-God only knows what her name
was; and what an intelligent, likable, informed woman !- gave me a
letter of recommendation, and Alice Bailey invited me to dinner. She
was with her husband- a nonentity-and a friend , a tremendously
voluble American woman, probably her patroness, because she paid for
the dinner. Alice Bailey conducted a school of " initiation by correspondence"
with a rather high tuition; she had published a number of
books-unreadable, and absolutely worthless)-Alice Bailey evoked
her master and protector in Tibet, with whom she was in regular
communication through telepathy; and with the aid of a ritual she
expelled the shade of that mysterious monk who kept coming in the
window. After that, Mme. Froebe adds, the monk visited the room next
door, where a young Dutch Quaker was staying; he would come at 2:00
A. M. Since the young man's room was directly over Mme. Froebe's
bedroom, she would hear him jump out of bed and turn on the light. He
would start reading aloud from the Bible. I don't know what sins that
monk bad committed, but on hearing the words of the Bible he would

Well, that was interesting, although Eliade's religious scholarship fails to impress me -- he was obviously a hanger-on himself at Eranos, the institute co-founded by Olga Froebe and Alice Bailey.  HOWEVER, I was amused and could related to something else related in this book -- his difficulty in finishing a plethora of projects:

18 May
I've written nothing in this notebook for several weeks because
I have been totally immersed in analyzing, classifying, and completing
the materials on shamanism, gathered in the last nine years. Every day,
at the Musee de I 'Homme. Have opened the notebook in order to record
that today I received the corrected proof copy of Le Mythe de l' eternel
re tour.
25 May
Am continuing to work, day and night, on shamanism. Sometimes
I feel almost crushed by the massive Soviet ethnographic
production. And since I can't see a problem clearly until I see it whole,
I keep putting off writing until the last moment, until I've verified even
the smallest detail (verifications which often are futile because I can't
use them; at most, I content myself with an allusion in a footnote).
Another danger: sometimes my "enthusiasm" is exhausted in the
research itself, and when I decide to write it up, I compose somewhat
reluctantly, hastily, using only a small part of the documentation I've
collected and spent days mulling over.  (page 90, Mircea Journal I)

Well, I've similar problems.  I've been almost totally immersed (besides my remaining law practice) with ANALYZING, CLASSIFYING, and COMPLETING . . .  It has dawned on me that I've been in this struggle for now nearly 35 years since 1981.  That's five years longer than the religious wars ending in the Treaty of Westphalia lasted in Europe!

I do think I have things computer organized now to the point where writing and accurate referencing will proceed smoothly.  Pray for me.  I've had health issues recently that has also served to somewhat slow me in this process.  I've amassed tremendous materials on General Vallely and Michael Aquino -- that backburnered projecd continues.

Thanks for your patience and stay tuned.



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Anonymous said...

Fascinating Constance, and praying for you.

People sometimes fail to recognize that Mohamed also had "visitations" when he meditated in a cave. He told his wife that he was visited by a demon and he came to her trembling. She and her uncle persuaded him he had been visited by the angel Gabriel. He was a miserable failure trying to convince people in Mecca that he was a prophet, so he went to the Jews in Medina and tried to convince them he was the next Elijah. That didn't work either and so he attacked them and stole their booty. That worked. He immediately had followers.

He used to pray towards Jerusalem and celebrate on Sabbath, but after this he turned towards Mecca and changed the day of worship. I'll let you decide who the messenger in the cave was.

Anonymous said...

The New Age

Masons on the Moon

January 13, post

Anonymous said...

This is an interesting article.


Susanna said...

Mircea Eliade became a central figure in the history of a form of esotericism which came to be known as the pagan/gnostic Traditionalist School. Insofar as a main Traditionalist belief is "perennialism," ( a syncretistic belief in the "transcendent" unity of all religions), Eliade is also a major figure in the New Age Movement - albeit perhaps not as well known as other major figures on account of his efforts to disguise his Traditionalist beliefs - referred to as "soft Traditionalism" according to Traditionalist historian Mark Sedgwick.

For the last development of Traditionalism under Fascism, we have to return to the period after the First World War and attempt to ignore what happened later, in order to understand events of the 1920's and 1930's in terms appropriate to those decades, rather than in terms of later associations.

Romanian Traditionalism derived not from Paris or Cairo, but from Rome. The earliest identifiable Roman Traditionalist, Mircea Eliade, was in 1927 a distant follower of Evola's and Arturo Regjhini's Ur group and was introduced to the work or (Rene) Guenon by Reghini as Evola himself had been. Eliade became a cenral figure in the history of Traditionalism. It is unclear how he got in touch with Reghini and the Ur group, the the contact was presumably a consequence of Eliade's youthful interest in occultism: he was reading Theosophical works at the age of 16, as well as Louis Claude de Saint-Martin (the eighteenth-century perennialist Mason after whom Encausse's ( Papus') Martinism was named.

After reading the Theosophists, Eliade recorded in his diary his desire to read the Sanskrit originals, rather as Agueli had determined to learn Sanskrit in 1895. The study of Sanskrit was less advanced in Romania than in France and when in 1925 Eliade went to the University of Bucharest, it was to read philosophy under Nae Ionescu, whose many interests included religion. Then in 1928, Eiade went to Calcutta to study Sanskrit and Hinduism, funded by a grant from the maharaja of Kissimbazar. Eliade had a close relationship with Evola in these years, to judge by his reactions recorded in his diary on learning of Evola's death in 1974:"Today I learn of the death of Julius Evola....Memories surge up in me, those of my years at University, the books we had discovered together, the letters I had received from him in Calcutta........
( Against the Modern World: Traditionalism and the Secret Intellectual History of the Twentieth Century 1st Edition

by Mark Sedgwick pp. 109-110)

Chapter ten of Sedgwick's book entitled "Education," considers the impact of Traditionalism on American academia through the activities there of Mircea Eliade when he was a professor at the University of Chicago.

omots said...

Our Common Destiny, NOT!

The evolution of theosophy can be seen in the political-speak of today- the "commonality", or "oneness" of mankind, where all of humanity (except for the fundamentalists of course), is believed to be moving towards some unified divine state of being or god-like transhuman existence. Many theosophical/new age concepts are exemplified in the twisted and deceptive speech of our current president, who now seems to have his sights set on the UN Secretary General position after he leaves office in 2017.

For those who are interested, here's a link to an old (2013) article I wrote about Obama's theosophy. Do you remember the commotion over one of the President's early campaign mottos? He said, "We are the one's we've been waiting for". Yes indeed, that is something Alice Bailey envisioned.

Susanna said...


The Theosophy of Barack Obama

August 21, 2015

The Aloha Spirit

....There is a theosophical substance in the real life of Barack Obama, which can explain why he makes a constantly renewed “brave declaration of principles”, to use the words from the Golden Stairs of H. P. Blavatsky’s theosophy. His “mantramic” teaching of theosophical principles is especially clear regarding the essential unity of all religions, in Ethics as in Wisdom. But what exactly is his direct experience regarding universal wisdom?

Obama was born in August 1961 in Hawaii, and it is not pure chance that his life and ideas express, up to a certain point, the “Aloha spirit”.

The word “Aloha” is a sacred mantra in Hawaiian culture, which is known all over the world for its open-mindedness and its feeling of brotherhood towards people from all nations. “Aloha” is a greeting and also a Universalist and theosophical concept. The term is equivalent to the Sanskrit word “Namaste”, which means “that which is divine in me greets that which is divine in you”. ( "divine spark")_ It also means “Shalom”, or “Peace”; and “Compassion”, and “Friendship”.

The so-called “Aloha spirit” indicates a mental state based on peace with oneself and peace with all beings. The speech, the philosophy and the actions of Mr. Obama seem to express something of this mantram and of this culture present in his youth.

His maternal grandparents, who played a central role in his education as a boy, not only lived in Hawaii with him, but they also were influenced in some moment by the Unitarian Universalist Church. That was a Church which worked for the fraternization of all religions and kept close ties with the Hindu society Brahmo Samaj. The Russian thinker Helena Blavatsky wrote a great deal about the Brahmo Samaj movement. She admired its founder. She criticized the mistakes made by its later leaders. Barack Obama himself wrote this on his maternal grandfather:

“…He liked the idea that Unitarians drew on the scriptures of all the great religions”.

According to Barack, his grandfather considered joining the Unitarians a unique opportunity: it was “like you get five religions in one”.

The idea of unity among religions is good and theosophical. However, it requires discernment, a severe respect for facts, a humble renunciation to illusion and unconditional love for truth. In that, Obama made mistakes. entire aticle...

Anonymous said...


Many have thought Obama is a Muslim. I disagree. He has strong Muslim sympathies from his upbringing, but a true Muslim could not support homosexual marriage because it goes against the Qur'an. Now some might say that is a ploy and Muslims are allowed to lie when it is for the cause of jihad. Obama, I believe was chosen to be all things to all people. Neither black nor white, neither Muslim nor Christian, neither American or Kenyan, neither homosexual or heterosexual ( talking about the rumors which who knows?) . The point is he is the most divisive person that we have ever had in the WH and yet he perfectly represents what America has become in recent history.

The theosophical path was paved for the nation to accept a candidate like Obama. Had he run even 10 years ago, he probably could not be sold to Americans as a President. Part of it has to do with demographics, the other with the education system and the religious system both of which have been infiltrated as Alice Bailey intended.

Obama is a mere figurehead. In reality he is run by the people behind him. He gave it all away when he said his mother was just as likely to take him to a Buddhist Temple on Christmas ( I believe- or something like this) as she was to Church. The bookshelves in his home were filled with all the different writings.

The US started the war on terror under Bush, and then brought in a figure who could go to the Muslim world and act as if he was one of them. Not sure how many of the Muslims are fooled by him but he did bow to the King of Saudi and has many Muslim Brotherhood types in his administration. I think all of this is part of the theosophical plan to install world government in some kind of technocratic dictatorship. Why was it so hard to find out about his past?

Unfortunately, I think the Pope is as much part of this as Obama. There are other players too but, the two of them have similar values on many issues ranging from the Palestinians, to climate change to income equality and so on They will both support the UN Millennial Development Goals and rumor has it that Obama wants to replace Ban KiMoon. Time will tell. I'm not saying this about the Pope because I am Catholic-bashing. I am just observing what he himself has said. Many Catholics are probably in disagreement with his views.

Anonymous said...

The Catholic Roots of Obama’s Activism


New Book’s Ironic Claim: Catholic Church Paid to Send Obama to an Alinsky-Founded Group’s Community Organizing Training (See the Documents)

Anonymous said...

From that article:


Mr. Obama had a small office with two cloudy glass-block windows on the ground floor of Holy Rosary, a handsome red brick parish on the South Side, where he would pop down the hall to the office of the Rev. William Stenzel, raise a phantom cigarette to his lips and ask, “Want to go out for lunch?” Besides sneaking smoke breaks with the priest on the roof, Mr. Obama listened to him during Mass. “He was on an exposure curve to organized religion,” Father Stenzel said.

and this:
To expand congregations as well as the reach of his organizing program, Mr. Obama went to Holy Ghost Catholic Church in South Holland, Ill.

and this:
As Mr. Obama helped expand the program from Catholic parishes to megachurches and Protestant congregations

and this:
Mr. Obama nevertheless maintained his Catholic connections, so much so that when he turned up in the basement of the Holy Name complex in 1987, “there was a need to clarify” that he was not a member of the flock, said the Rev. David Jones, who was at the meeting. And some members still tried to draw him in, in more ways than one.

Anonymous said...

and this:

Still, Mr. Obama had not lost all his friends in the church. As the president’s relations with Catholic leaders reached their nadir, Father Stenzel, Mr. Obama’s old smoke-break friend, visited the White House. As they walked into the Oval Office, Mr. Obama joked to his staff that the priest had given him his first office in Chicago. Father Stenzel reminded him that his old surroundings were far humbler: “The office I gave you had two rows of glass-block windows!”

Anonymous said...

It was Obama's longtime PROTESTANT pastor Jeremiah Wright who said: "God D--ned America!!!" That has been Obama's theme these past eight years - to punish America for her greatness.

Anonymous said...

PROTESTANT pastor Jeremiah Wright


The church’s pastor, Father Michael Pfleger, publicly welcomed Wright to the event. “We love you. We praise God for you,” the priest said to Wright. In later interviews with the press, the priest defended Wright from criticism.

Father Pfleger had invited Wright to the church’s African-American Speaker Series, which featured writer and civil rights activist Dr. Maya Angelou.

Dan Bryan said...

I think we are making too much of religion when it comes to the political.
The political for the most part are power-prostitutes and will get in bed with anyone that helps their political office and agenda.

I do believe it is good to point it out but for reference only, the Obama (Nobel peace be upon him) is all that you are saying here and less.

Anonymous said...

Rev Wright is an ACTOR, he 'played' a protestant in stage and TV.

Anonymous said...

Lucifer was the first and is still the most influential politician that ever was. He lobbies angels and they fell for the drama and deception. What makes us think Susanna's would not fall for it, she is a mere mortal, even if the catechisms claim that Jesus came to make her a god, she is only human.

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

1:54 AM
Much and many behind the scenes. We must be willing to do the unpleasant, but necessary, critical thinking to see who is leading the charges..backed by whom...and no longer so much consumed as to how the world got to this point, but rather what is the next course to be served up on their menu. Constance, and some others, have certainly given us plenty to see and explore to draw the right conclusions from a number of different angles to see how broad the global endeavor has been over a long period of time. Intentional or not, globally influenced and overtly global minded leaders from every sector, whether in the militaries, higher and lower government offices and institutions, religious leadership whether Catholic or Protestant (whatever folks call themselves all over the map these days), are "coming out" now as globalists and secure that their agendas have adequately softened up, targeted, and accomplished all the heavy lifting necessary to reduce the masses to believing globalism is the world's only hope, using him as a prop, it's mouthpiece, quite like none other. He will be rewarded for being the one to nail that last nail in that coffin, serving up America on a silver platter. Very much so.

Truly, and ultimately, it is the Bible that has led the way for us to know what we are seeing in the world today.

Constance Cumbey said...

The Catholic Church of the late 1960's was active in community organizing. Our neighborhood in NW Detroit had community organizers. They had a large community meeting at Precious Blood Church in NW Detroit and almost the entire very concerned neighborhood attended. The hall was packed. People were surveyed for what they considered the major problems of the area. Crime was #1. Neighborhood watch groups were organized and Mt. Carmel Mercy Hospital loaned space for radio equipment storage. Observers were to be "eyes and ears" and thus have a deterrent effect on crime including vandalism and breakins. I now suspect Saul Alinsky community organizing methods were involved. In fact I recall Alinksky's name being mentioned, however, more often at Wayne State University where I was then a student then at the the neighborhood association meetings. BUT the community organizers I met there and then were in my opinion very fine and sincere, dedicated people with pretty much altruistic motives. I personally was involved in some of the community efforts, including being then invited to be on the steering committee of the Northwest Community Organization. We were modeled after a similar effort in Chicago. This would have substantially predated Barack Obama's days. It was post-1967 riot era in Detroit. I frankly thought a lot of good was accomplished. People of many denominations and both political parties were involved in the community betterment efforts. AND, the connections I made then came in mighty handy when I was warning locally about New Age issues before my work went national in 1982. People in those circles listened to me in the crucial early incubator days of my work.

Neither to the right hand nor to the left, but strictly in the paths of the Lord.


Anonymous said...

Protestant Pastor says the gospel, we are all one through Christ:

The Gospel, the Roman Catholic, and True Revival by Richard Bennett, Former RC Priest

Jesuits thinker, Rev Wright, BLACK liberation theology

Liberation Theology=Jesuit


You have to have 'actors and liars' to lobby the people with BS. Wright was a master.

Constance Cumbey said...

In the 1980s Bishop Bernardin of Cincinnati and later Cardinal Bernardin of Chicago was obviously into many New Age causes. So was Cardinal Dearden of Detroit. CALL TO ACTION I believe was hatched in Detroit under Dearden's adminstration of the Archdiocese. Fr. Perrone of Detroit later launched in the 1990s as I recall, A CALL TO HOLINESS to counter the mischief of A CALL TO ACTION.

In my opinion, New Age interests are now big time on the move again in Catholic circles. They had their decline under the latter days of Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger. I will write more on this later. I have collected extensive amounts of data on it, but like Eliade, sometimes it is difficult to encapsulate all.


Anonymous said...

"BUT the community organizers I met there and then were in my opinion very fine and sincere, dedicated people with pretty much altruistic motives"

Exactly, and the deceivers use the people to do their dirty work by manipulating them with the Jesuit art of war tactics which mainly include witch-crafts like deception and drama, acting, theater arts, and finally when all else fails, trauma(terror) which induces fear and disassociation.

"The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it."
Joseph Mengele

Anonymous said...

"In my opinion, New Age interests are now big time on the move again in Catholic circles" The entire purpose of this blog is to promote this idea. It's a work of iniquity.

I think the Biblical evidence (which far outweighs Constance's research) is much greater in the area of the Rome is Babylon veiled by a thin layer of Christianity and is really the force behind Crowley's new age etc. Bowie was a Crowley fan and sung about him in his lyrics. SO naturally the RCC would celebrate him.

Anonymous said...

In any case our computer addresses have been recorded and since we have brown shirts in Ferguson and at land-stand offs at Occupy and Tea Party and Muslim rallies etc, etc. We can expect the raids soon on those who get it.

Anonymous said...

Man uses implant in hand to board plane in Sweden

Constance Cumbey said...

To 11:44 am

How to you spell S-L-A-N-D-E-R, L-I-B-E-L and F-A-L-S-E A-C-C-U-S-A-T-I-O-N? Not to mention S-E-L-F R-I-G-H-T-E-O-U-S?

I'm so very happy that it is GOD and not you as my eternal Judge!


Constance Cumbey said...

To Susanna, OMOTS, and 1:54 AM


Constance Cumbey said...

I guess I must be culturally deprived, but I have to confess I had not heard and/or didn't remember hearing of "Bowie" until his announced death the other day. I note he is/was approximately 4 years younger than myself, so I must have missed his years of teen-aged adulation.


Anonymous said...

3:40 PM

Pierre Teilhard de Chardin SJ (French: [pjɛʁ tejaʁ də ʃaʁdɛ̃]; 1 May 1881 – 10 April 1955) was a French philosopher and Jesuit priest who trained as a paleontologist and geologist and took part in the discovery of Peking Man. He conceived the idea of the Omega Point (a maximum level of complexity and consciousness towards which he believed the universe was evolving) and developed Vladimir Vernadsky's concept of noosphere.

"Can you say, opinion based on clear evidence." People love their sin and hate to be exposed so naturally others get emotional.

Marko said...

Anon 1:54 am....

"Obama, I believe was chosen to be all things to all people. Neither black nor white, neither Muslim nor Christian, neither American or Kenyan, neither homosexual or heterosexual ( talking about the rumors which who knows?) . The point is he is the most divisive person that we have ever had in the WH and yet he perfectly represents what America has become in recent history."

This is a great explanation of why he got elected, twice.

There are more people out there than you or I would like to admit who believe in nothing. And you know what they say: If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything. Or something like that...

Marko said...

This is off-topic, but if you want to watch something that will keep you awake tonight, check this out:

Watch update #16: Nuclear Roulette

Dr. Peter Vincent Pry, Jeff Nyquist, and Alan Dos Santos talk about EMP weapons in light of the recent nuclear test by N. Korea, among other things.

Susanna said...

January 20, 2015
Challenging the Rehabilitation of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Scott Ventureyra

Anonymous said...

"This is a great explanation of why he got elected, twice."

People are smart and care about their nations, they also believe in God, even in Europe. The CFR (jesuit controlled??) announced that Europe was too parochial when they voted down on a Syrian invasion a while back and frankly the machines can be hacked in 5 different ways. I argue that Obama never won.

Susanna said...


Just want to point out to people that Brazil is part of BRICS.

BRICS = Brazil, Russia, India, China And South Africa. As of 2011, these five countries were among the fastest growing emerging markets.

Alexander Dugin - the Traditionalist to whom Mark Sedgwick devotes several pages in his book Against the Modern World: Traditionalism and the Secret Intellectual History of the Twentieth Century 1st Edition- sees a BRICS led by Russia.

Alexander Dugin: The Fall of Turkey [Constantinople] with Imran Nazar Hosein
Published on Aug 24, 2014

Susanna said...

Both Mircea Eliade and Alexander Dugin were influenced by Julius Evola who tried to worm his way into the fascist regime of Mussolini and having failed in this endeavor sought to worm his way into the Nazi regime of Adolph Hitler.

The Traditionalism dealt with on this website is an early twentieth-century French philosophy that gave rise to an important worldwide movement.

The contemporary Traditionalist philosophy was first developed in Paris by René Guénon (1886-1951) in a number of books published over the ten years following the end of the First World War, but its origins can be traced to the sixteenth century.

The earliest Traditionalist organizations were established before the Second World War. The movement divided in 1948-50 after a split between Guénon and one of his most important followers, the Swiss Sufi shaykh Frithjof Schuon (1907-98). Guénon died in Cairo in 1951.

Traditionalism was developed in different directions by Schuon and by two other followers of Guénon, the political Traditionalist Baron Julius Evola (1896/8-1974), and the scholar Mircea Eliade (1907-86). Over the second half of the twentieth century, Schuon's Sufi order remained secret, but grew in influence in Europe and America, and in Iran under Dr Seyyed Hossein Nasr (1933- ). Mircea Eliade's "soft" Traditionalism had a far-reaching influence in American academia, but the connection to Guénon's Traditionalism went unnoticed. In Italy, the postwar writings of Julius Evola inspired various terrorist groups, but few outsiders made any connection between Evola and Guénon.

Traditionalism remains important today, in and beyond the West. The 1960s brought renewed interest in Europe and America, and Alexander Dugin (1962- ) has made Traditionalism central to the extreme right in post-Soviet Russian politics. Traditionalism is also of growing importance in the Islamic world.

Susanna said...

Round Table Discussion with Dugin......Eurasianism. The advent of the Imam Madhi is being syncretized with the Second Coming of Christ.

Sheikh Imran Hosein: Islam and the West [ENGLISH ONLY VERSION]



Susanna said...

Aleksandr Dugin’s transformation from a lunatic fringe figure into a mainstream political publicist, 1980–1998: A case study in the rise of late and post-Soviet Russian fascism


......Most sources agree that the Yuzhinskii circle had been founded in the 1960s at the flat of Yurii Mamleev (b. 1931), a well-known Russian mysticist, novelist and metaphysic. The occultist circle was named after the street, Yuzhinskii pereulok, in which Mamleev flat was located. Having been forced to emigrate in 1975, Mamleev went first to the United States where he taught at Cornell University and, in 1983, to France where he taught at the Sorbonne. In 1991, he returned to Moscow where he became a prominent collaborator of Dugin’s Arktogeya (Northern Land) association and “New University.” He also became an adjunct professor at Moscow State University teaching Indian philosophy. 11 Mamleev has been called “a representative of the aesthetics of evil,”12 and describes in his cryptic novels scenes of human perversion and degradation.13

After Mamleev’s emigration, the circle started, in the late 1970s, calling itself “Black Order of the SS,” and its leader Evgenii Golovin (b. 1936) Reichsführer SS. Golovin, a poet, philosopher, translator, literary critic and mystic, had studied philology at Moscow State University, and gained, as a student, access to the closed section of the USSR’s largest, Lenin Library. He discovered integral Traditionalism in the early 1960s, led the Yuzhinskii circle after Mamleev’s departure, 14 and became one of the earliest and, perhaps, most important mentors of young Dugin. He has continued to cooperate closely with Dugin after the break-up of the Soviet Union within, for instance, Dugin’s mentioned “New University.”15 Otherwise, Golovin is said to live the life of an eremite in a small flat in Gorki-10, close to Moscow.


Susanna said...


After its samizdat literature had been discovered by the KGB and Mamleev expelled, 9 the Yuzhinskii circle became more secretive and took new members only through some initiation ritual.16 Various reports have alleged that the circle’s members included, at different points, apart from Golovin, Dugin and Mamleev, the Islamist Geidar Dzhemal,17 the artists Anatolii Zverev and Vladimir Pyatnitskii, the poets Genrikh Zapgir, Yuri Kublanovskii and Leonid Gubanov, the philosopher Vladimir Stepanov, and even the famous writers Vladimir Sorokin and Venedikt Erofeev.18 According to one source, in 1978–1988, the group was led by Geidar Dzhemal, and, in 1983–1989, also by Dugin.19

The Azeri Dzhemal (b. 1947) was, at that time, apparently a close friend of Dugin, and had a biography somewhat similar to Dugin’s. In 1967, Dzhemal too had been expelled from his higher education institution, the Institute for Oriental Languages (where, at the same time, another future post-Soviet right-wing extremist Vladimir Zhirinovskii studied) for political reasons, and subsequently become an autodidact interested in Integral Traditionalism. In 1980, Dzhemal, Dugin and Golovin went for a month-long trip to the Zeravshan mountains in the North-East Pamirs.20 In the same year, Dzhemal joined the Naqshbandiyya Sufi Muslim order in Tajikistan. During the 1990s, Dzhemal became a prominent Islamist publicist in Russia, and co-leader of the microscopic Party of Islamic Rebirth. At one point, he was allied to Aleksandr Lebed and the Movement in the Support of the Army. In 1995, Dzhemal tried, unsuccessfully to enter the State Duma.9 Though the relationship between Dzhemal and Dugin was, at times, strained—for instance, when Dzhemal was affiliated for some time to Dugin’s rival, microscopic Eurasian Party of Russia of Abdul-Vakhed Niyazov—they have recently renewed their cooperation.


Susanna said...


For Dugin, the influence of Golovin was especially important, and one report says that it was Golovin, a professional translator and polyglot, who motivated Dugin to learn foreign languages. The same source says that “Golovin’s lectures on hermeneutics, Traditionalism and Eurasianism were received by Dugin as eye-opening.”9 Dugin later spoke of the circle as “the true masters of the Moscow esoteric elite.”21 Dugin’s first major contribution to the activities of the circle, apparently, was his translation of Julius Evola’s writing Pagan Imperialism into Russian language, in the early 1980s. 22 According to one source, in 1989, the Golovin circle started to publish a samizdat newspaper Poslednii polyus (The Last Pole) which was edited by I. Dudinskii, had a circulation of 3000–5000 copies, and appeared altogether three times. 23 Dzhemal, Golovin and Mamleev have continued to collaborate with Dugin after the break-up of the Soviet Union, and are contributing today to his various publications and other entire article...

Dan Bryan said...

Dear Constance,

The Witchcraft of the Narnia Chronicles
Here is a good critique of C.S. Lewis Narnia Chronicles.

paul said...

Anon 4:10
Wasn't Peking Man a hoax, like Pierre Blowhard DeChardan?

Anonymous said...

Obama, I believe was chosen to be all things to all people. Neither black nor white, neither Muslim nor Christian, neither American or Kenyan, neither homosexual or heterosexual

Excellent comment, Susanna - and raising the question, Who chose him?

Anonymous said...

I think the Biblical evidence (which far outweighs Constance's research) is much greater in the area of the Rome is Babylon veiled by a thin layer of Christianity and is really the force behind Crowley's new age etc. Bowie was a Crowley fan and sung about him in his lyrics. SO naturally the RCC would celebrate him.

Many militant leftists and atheists share the view that the Catholic Church is the most evil institution in the world, just as the KKK agrees that Rome is Babylon. No doubt these groups appreciate you doing their work for them.

Anonymous said...

Spot on! 9:56 AM

Anonymous said...

The Devil Who Sits In the Oval Office:

Constance Cumbey said...

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Anonymous said...

Bowie was a Crowley fan and sung about him in his lyrics. SO naturally the RCC would celebrate him.

Are you deliberately trying to portray Catholic-baiters as nitwits? If so congratulations, you are succeeding, for it doesn't take a doctorate in theology to know that the Catholic Church has no official teaching about David Bowie.

Anonymous said...

Re Anonymous 10:15 Who sits at the top of the Islamic food chain and who sits at the top of the New Age food chain? They worked together in the '40s and they work together now. Constance says one uses the other. Ignore the continuous distractions posted here. Someone must have put some of the puzzle pieces in place. And now on to other distractions.

Susanna said...

Anonymous 4:54 AM

Re:....and raising the question, Who chose him?

The communists.

Anonymous said...

What is the opinion of those here on pastor "Steve Anderson?" He identifies the US as a possible candidate for the whore of Babylon, but less credibility, he goes on rants against the Jews.

Anonymous said...

America Is End Times Babylon:

Anonymous said...

Who do you think said this 28 months ago?

We can see how many of the Euro-Atlantic countries are actually rejecting their roots, including the Christian values that constitute the basis of Western civilisation. They are denying moral principles and all traditional identities: national, cultural, religious and even sexual. They are implementing policies that equate large families with same-sex partnerships, belief in God with the belief in Satan.

The excesses of political correctness have reached the point where people are seriously talking about registering political parties whose aim is to promote paedophilia. People in many European countries are embarrassed or afraid to talk about their religious affiliations. Holidays are abolished or even called something different; their essence is hidden away, as is their moral foundation. And people are aggressively trying to export this model all over the world. I am convinced that this opens a direct path to degradation and primitivism, resulting in a profound demographic and moral crisis.

What else but the loss of the ability to self-reproduce could act as the greatest testimony of the moral crisis facing a human society? Today almost all developed nations are no longer able to reproduce themselves, even with the help of migration. Without the values embedded in Christianity and other world religions, without the standards of morality that have taken shape over millennia, people will inevitably lose their human dignity. We consider it natural and right to defend these values.

Answer: Vladimir Putin

Anonymous said...

This is Anon 5:52PM again. Yes, I see that the argument that the US could be the whore of Babylon makes a lot of sense. I do not understand why this pastor who has also identified this possibility is going crazy bashing the Jews.

Anonymous said...

4:54 AM

That wasn't Susanna, but I think it's safe to say that there are a powerful group of globalists who decide who get to run the most powerful nation on the planet. Of course he's gutted the military power and economic power, two necessary ingredients for establishing NWO.

There are the names we all know like Soros, but there are probably names we have never heard of that work behind the scenes. The sacrifice of America has been in the works for a long time. In 1988 the Economist Magazine seems to predict this with the phoenix bird coming out of the ashes of burning dollars. There is a great series on internet about America's occult foundations.

The first two world wars brought us League of Nations and United Nations. Maybe the 3rd will bring us global government. If the rumors are true and Obama is chosen as Secretary General he would just speak laws into existence like he has done in the US. Time will tell, but his Presidency has been one of change but not for the better.

Susanna said...

Anonymous 12:31 A.M.

The following has been posted a few times on this blog, but it bears periodical reviewing - especially given the activities of Putin's sidekick and "Neo-Eurasianist" Alexander Dugin, who DOES call the United States and the other "Atlanticist" countries "Mystery Babylon" and "the kingdom of the antichrist."


Does ‘Putin’s Brain’ Believe That The United States Is The Kingdom Of Antichrist?

Thursday, June 12, 2014

Anonymous said...

yes, George Soros. The Rothschilds, The Rockefellers, Zbigniew Brazazinski, George Shultz, Henry Kissinger, The Koch brothers, Madeline Albright, Paul Wolfowitz, and Freemasonry, but the most powerful of all is The Vatican and the Jesuits in particular, who control All the above, as well as ALL media, All entertainment, The UN, The CFR, The Trilateral Commission, and pretty much the whole world. The only one that they have to answer to is their ruler, Satan.

Susanna said...


The following National Review Online article is from a little lea than two years ago.

Putin Adviser Publishes Plan for Domination of Europe

by Robert Zubrin March 10, 2014

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...


Dugin is an ambitious opportunist and was advisor not to Putin but to "State Duma speaker and key member of the ruling United Russia party Sergei Naryshkin.[12]" citing an article in the Guardian, he was eventually fired after his "kill! kill! kill!" rant about Ukraine from the university he was at, and Putin made no move to support him. Dugin also came up with the statement "the metaphysics of the washing machine" I'd hate to stand next to him on a hot day.

Putin describes himself as without any ideology, just pragmatist and conservative. While Dugin is currently ingratiating himself with the Orthodox Church, this is more ethnic tradition than theological. If he keeps up his weird theology long enough to get attention, he may get fired (excommunicated) from the ROC also. Or just told to shut up.

(regarding Vatican controlling everything through the Jesuits, theorists might do well to view this backwards, sort of, that the various forces they see as Jesuit/Vatican agents are in fact infiltrators and controllers of the Jesuits and Vatican, as indeed had been stated was the plan in the 1800s. At some times in the past the papacy consisted of immoral vicious and semi pagan popes and the world didn't end.)

All that Putin has done that fits Dugin's ideas is consistent not so much with Dugin as with pre Dugin theorists, the Russian tendency to require a buffer zone around its heartland having learned from centuries of experience, see Caspian Report on youtube on this, and what makes sense from history and circumstances. Dugin like most third positionists/national Bolshevik/etc. theorists is a potentially dangerous joke that likes as much attention as possible. In one book or article, Dugin complained that putin was surrounded and controlled by people I forget what he called them, but they were not him (strike one against them in his mind) and not representative of his ideas (strike two in his mind against them). I suppose the university firing him and Putin not trying to stop this is strike three in his mind. I hope he doesn't decide to try to assassinate Putin's circle, which is getting shook up as happens periodically anyway.

Unknown said...

Mrs Cumbey: Years ago, I was writing letters to the editors for Medical journals opposing the stealthy pro euthanasia agenda which was being pushed by some famous "bioethicists"...(some lay folks know about Peter Singer, but the agenda is deeper and wider than most people think: indeed, I Thought I was paranoid until John Paul II came out with an encyclical that confirmed what was going on).

Well, anyway, when writing these trivial letters, often my computer would crash, or I'd be unable to write, or I made mistakes and once or twice had to sens a follow up letter to correct the references. Before one letter to a PC journal, it got so bad I had to fast for a day and say prayers before I could get my mind to think straight.

So I suspect this is demonic, and you need to have more folks pray for you. It also, of course, could be medical: Get rest, and a checkup.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"the propaganda that those who deny Christ are Israel despite the Holy Scriptures telling us the contrary" actually it doesn't tell us the contrary at all.

Romans 11:11, 17-22,28, 29 especially note "BOAST NOT AGAINST THE BRANCHES [Israel after the flesh that were cut out], BUT IF THOU BOAST, THOU BEAREST NOT THE ROOT [Israel after the flesh], BUT THE ROOT THEE."

""As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes' BUT AS TOUCHING THE ELECTION, THEY ARE BELOVED FOR THE FATHERS' [biblical patriarchs'] SAKES." Zechariah and Ezekiel support zionism, you don't need no stinkin' dispensationalism and phony Scofield.

re catechism claiming "Jesus came to make her a god," this is 2 Peter 1:4, participation in the divine nature a god by grace NOT A GOD BY NATURE OR ESSENCE. It may be however that confusion about this plays a role in RC and evangelical deceivability.

RayB prugatory vs. Christ's one time Sacrifice - what do you make of Luke 12:43-48, especially vs. 48?
all of these were believer's in Christ, His servants. yet they got punished for how they mishandled Christ's grace to them. In varying degrees. Now, this is probably an RC proof text for purgatory, but since in this parable the master of the household has returned, this is the last judgement. But if one has some flogging coming, it would help to pay off some IF one also turned from the sin one hadn't forsaken to serve Christ or had fallen back into it, in hell for a while, eh? This all or nothing mentality doesn't fly. An Orthodox interpretation is that at death one gets a foretaste of one's eternal future, absent prayers for you that God answers granting release from torments and granting repentance. notice the patterns in life are continued in death, the rich man didn't call to God but to Abraham, what happened later is of course unknown. prayers for the dead were part of Jewish practice and Paul prayed for Onesiphorus to have mercy shown him "on that Day" having mentioned his household instead of him and his household twice in that letter
then spoke of him alone, so he's dead. Everything said about him is past tense.

I don't follow a tradition. I accepted the Orthodox tradition because it fits the Bible better than the RC does, and RC fits the Bible better than the protestant does! When I was a protestant I figured out prayers for the dead were legitimate, because Jesus said all things are possible with God and that He has the keys of death and of hades (which is unseen ream, land of the dead, both nice and uncomfortable places). I Peter twice speaks of Jesus preaching to the dead while He was dead. both kerygma and euangelion are in these verses, it is not merely an announcement that is not an invitation as one protestant writer argued.

Anonymous said... Just a Cardinal Pell update Susannah. Thought you might like to read it. I have to say I'm a bit of a Pell fan. (and not just coz he's from OZ)


From OZ.

Anonymous said...


Excuse me while I vomit.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

awwww, you gonna twow up?

omots said...


While it may generate some interesting discussion, I would caution against using "Before it's News" as an info source. I thought Sorcha Fael had been outed a long time ago on this blog. Maybe I am mistaken.

Anonymous said...

It's like being pounced on by a dead sheep.

omots said...

Hundreds of Sorcha Fael sourced articles have been published on the Before It's News website. In my mind that de-legitimizes the entire source, which would include any "non-Sorcha Fael" pieces that site might publish.

Anonymous said...

If she were ever a sheep, 9:34 AM...

That olde she-Wolf sure doesn´t pounce but scuttles like a cockroach, defiling this blog with her New Age droppings. So, if Mary Infowoof Chritine Eekson (MICE for short) is looking for vermin, rather than run round in circles with her doctrines of devils here (chakras, et al), soiling this blog, she´d better clear her own house up first!

Anonymous said...

"Now, this is probably an RC proof text for purgatory"
What a stretch. You'll have to do a lot better than that one...
You back up your thinking, not the bible.
How often you mishandle the word and grace of God. And to add to your shame you tout your "I know it all" demeanor and attitude. Pouncing, to jump in and correct, but by your own words and so-called "authority".
Your posts are dead on arrival.

Marko said...

Regarding Christine's comment:

(regarding Vatican controlling everything through the Jesuits, theorists might do well to view this backwards, sort of, that the various forces they see as Jesuit/Vatican agents are in fact infiltrators and controllers of the Jesuits and Vatican, as indeed had been stated was the plan in the 1800s. At some times in the past the papacy consisted of immoral vicious and semi pagan popes and the world didn't end.)

Yes. And I would even generalize this concept a bit more and apply it to almost every observation about a small number of controlling "powers that be". There is NO small group of people controlling all the large institutions from the top, from behind the curtain, etc. There is a worldwide undercurrent of philosophy or a world view, coming from the pit of hell, that motivates certain people to infiltrate large institutions of power to try and influence them away from their traditional purposes and toward their own (or rather, the devil's own) agenda. They sometimes are successful, and sometimes not.

Sometimes history can be changed by one person. But not usually. Usually, it's when one person's bad ideas spread among a large group of people, and then that large group (groups as large as an entire nation or race) decides to act on them. The French Revolution, most wars, genocides, etc. are all of this nature. They are not "staged" events, orchestrated by a handful of Illuminati, or whomever, watching it all unfold "according to plan" from the sidelines, using this magic thing called the dialectic.

The dialectic has its uses, and has been used in history, and is being used now in various places, but when I see people ascribe everything that happens to it, it really annoys me.

Most of the time, wars just happen, because humans are selfish, greedy, hateful and prideful. They do NOT very often (if ever?) happen because some really wealthy people somewhere decided that to get richer, they would start a war between a couple of nations.

Most of the time, institutions that traditionally preserve civilization become corrupted. The reasons are the same as for why wars happen. Also, people are lazy. To keep the light of civilization lit, and especially Christian Civilization, requires a lot of work, and a lot of propagating of wisdom and knowledge. When that set of wisdom and knowledge is replaced with something else, decay and destruction sets in. This is how a small number of people, or even one person, can achieve change - by introducing new ideas to replace the old. But that change is possible mostly because of good men doing nothing. So if you want to blame a certain conspiracy for everything, blame the conspiracy of doing nothing.

Anyway, these mechanisms of change are, by my thinking, more a part of the changes we see happening in the world than is a rigid mechanism of control by a small cadre of powerful and wealthy men. History is a war of ideas, more than it is a staged play.

Anonymous said...

"So if you want to blame a certain conspiracy for everything, blame the conspiracy of doing nothing."

Isn't that the truth. It isn't that info is always so deeply hidden, it is passed over by people often in denial, or deeply apathetic. Many times, many things, are hidden in plain sight but most are not discerning for their own particular reasons.

So conspiracies in and of themselves are often drummed up to distract. People who don't choose reality or hate it will many times fall right in line for the distractions. And make a lifestyle out of it, as they cruise the internet to follow them.

The Bible (raw and untampered with) has always kept it real, but it's too real for most, apparently.

paul said...

Christine, Marko and Anonymous,

So there is no "hidden hand" or Illuminatti, or Freemason control over local courts, or the Supreme court, and 99% of all Hollywood producers aren't freemasons nor are 99% of the successful actors of same, and there is no real conpiracy in the fact that popular music today is an ongoing invitation to take drugs and drink hard liquor and have sex with strangers until you black out ?
And Psalm #2 is wrong when it says that "the kings of the earth have set themselves, and the rulers take council together against the Lord, and against his anointed saying let us break their bands asunder and cast away their cords from us"? And the Bank of England hasn't funded both sides of practically every war and conflict on earth in the last 200 years? And the Fed had nothing to do with the Great Depression? And the current rise of Socialism, and the destroying of the U.S. dollar bringing everyone into veritable slavery isn't part of a plan? And ISIS is just an organic grassroots movement of bloodthirsty murderous raping child slavers, which formed because we are apathetic ?
Oh, well, what a relief !

Are you kidding?
And the Vatican isn't in bed with the U.N., and neither have anything to do with the great dumbing down of education all over the world ? Conspiracy, what conspiracy?
Have you seen the statues in and on the Church of the Jesuits at the Vatican, where Mary is stomping on the head of
a woman (a church) ? There were plaques explaining the symbolism prior to Vatican I but they were removed after. There are also statues in the same place of Ignatius Loyola stomping on Martin Luthers' head and even a little cherub by Mary ripping up pages of a book... And another statue of Francis Xavier crushing the head of John Huss.
What a tragedy that the printing press came along right about then and let just anyone read the Bible. Damn printing machines!
So you don't believe that the Jesuits and the Knights of Malta were formed for the sole purpose of wiping out Protestantism?
Why would they need to be infiltrated? They ARE the infiltration.

Next year, 2017, the Roman church has declared to be a Jubilee of Jubilees; (based not on anything in the Bible but on the fact that it's fifty years since Vatican I, and 500 years since the Protestant Reformation), and a major MAJOR event is planned for October 31st in which all the Protestant churches will be "invited" to come back into the fold of the RC church.How nice. Anyone not attending will be deemed heretical and lost. That means most Protestant denominations of course. Meanwhile of course the Pope will continue to do his level best to "blend" all religions together, since according to him they all are essentially the same.
Personally, I say thanks but no thanks.

"Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me" (Psalms 40:7)

"Only be thou strong and very courageous, that thou mayest observe to do according to all the Law, which Moses my servant
commanded thee: turn not from it to the right hand nor to the left, that thou mayest prosper withersoever thou goest.
This book of the Law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shall meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success. ( Joshua 1:7,8)

There is nothing sacred about man made traditions.
Viva Martin Luther!
Viva Sola Scriptura !!!

Anonymous said...

For my part you are overstating the point to think I mean there are none. I said often drummed up. I did not say they are not there, just not as hidden as people think.

And not "conspiracies" as much as lawlessness that too many times gets a wink and a nod, a blind eye or silent in the face of it (that Marko was mentioning).

Nothing much is really done in a corner after all.

And you are right about man-made traditions. Generally speaking, they are drummed up as filler when people are not adhering as close to scripture as it advises they do, by letting it weigh in, or actually have the final say.

Susanna said...


Thank you for the heads up Your caution is well received.

I would not have ordinarily cited this source except for the fact that this particular article is in agreement with several other reliable sources - including the article from the National Review which I posted as a "P.S." at 2:13 P.M. - and the information from these sources has been consolidated into one article.

Susanna said...

OZ 8:10 AM

Thank you for the Cardinal Pell update. I am a Cardinal Pell fan myself. He is certainly fighting the good fight, isn't he?

Marko said...

"So there is no "hidden hand" or Illuminatti, or Freemason control over local courts, or the Supreme court, and 99% of all Hollywood producers aren't freemasons nor are 99% of the successful actors of same ...?"


It's this kind of painting with a broad brush that makes conspiracy theory to me so annoying.

I can say with confidence, without even looking into it, that NO, 99% of the successful actors and actresses in Hollywood are NOT Freemasons or Illuminati. (Define "successful", for one.) There would need to be an ABUNDANCE of proof, from multiple sources, for me to believe that. There aren't many good people in Hollywood, and yes, Hollywood was targeted long ago to be a conduit of influence against Christianity and traditional Western Civilizational values, but that doesn't mean that they are all (or 99%) Masons or Illuminati.

This is why I don't like conspiracy theory in general, because almost everything that happens is treated in this manner. There is no critical thinking. There is no in-depth investigation. Someone writes a book to "expose the conspiracy", and it agrees with a preconceived notion already formed in someone's mind that there is such a conspiracy, and therefore reinforces that notion. Someone writes a different book that disagrees with that notion, or tends to disprove it, and that is automatically seen as proof that the same conspiracy exists, and the author is part of the conspiracy, because he or she is trying to deflect attention away from it.

I'm not saying conspiracies don't exist. And I certainly don't appreciate you putting words in my mouth when you question my belief in Psalms 2, etc. What I *am* saying is that for the conspiracy theorist, historical events are taken hold of, analyzed against a known group of villains (which seemingly never changes), and tacked onto one of them, like pinning the tail on one of a dozen or so donkeys. That is lazy scholarship, if you can even call it that. History is much more complex than that.

paul said...

What strikes me about scholarship is that it leads around in circles, and no one ever proves anything, but merely creates a new controversy which is then debated and nothing is determined definitively. Scholars today just chase thier own tails.
Here's a theory for you: The entire academic world with it's degrees and matriculations and mortar beanies with tassles is an
invention of Freemasonry and Jesuits. PhD just means Piled Higher and Deeper. There are no absolutes and nothing can be proven in the modern academic world. Science knows more and more about less and less; only conjecture and refutation followed by more conjecture. Education has become a weapon, in the words of Robin Eubanks in her very astute book called "Credentialed to Destroy". She is referring to the fact that Education since about 1958 is a sham and a Communist bad joke.
As it applies to things sacred, what good is a PhD in Theology, or Divinity, for instance? What good is it? Does it guarantee that the holder is a Bible believer? Do doctors of Divinity heal the sick or perform miracles? Just the opposite. University professors are almost unanimous in their atheism even in so-called Christian colleges.
So excuse me if I'm not impressed by commentary which is so overly verbose that it can be considered "legitimate scholarship". Christianity and a sincere faith in the Son of God is not now, and never has been an intellectual pursuit.

Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the Kingdom of the heavens
Blessed are you who mourn now for you shall be comforted
Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth
Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God

The people who followed Jesus were uneducated, simple folk, ( Acts 4:13 ) and these are the ones that I have come to
enjoy the company of more than the proud college kids who don't know their right hand from their left. And yes almost every huge Hollywood star is at least a 32nd degree Freemason, if not a 33rd degree, all in the service of their lord Satan.

Viva Sola Scriptura !

Anonymous said...

Thanks for telling it like it is Paul. May the Lord bless your soul.

There are too many so called intellectuals here who spend much of their waking hours reasoning, and letting everyone know what they think about stuff, and almost no time just believing in simple faith.

Anonymous said...

When a person comes to know Christ, and receives the Holy Spirit, if they remain in fellowship with the Lord through His Holy Spirit,the Spirit ministers truth based upon Gods Word. That person begins to loose the scales from their eyes, and they begin to see this world for what it truly is, a world wholy decieved by Satan. They then begin to understand that they truly are "strangers" in 'this' world. Unfortunately many even who know the Lord, and certainly those who are religious, never truly come to understand the dichotomy. Rather they enjoy the fruits of this world and its pleasant fellowship, rather than risk the austerity that the narrow path may bring. So they go merrily about their own way unencumbered by worrisome thoughts, and they contemplate stuff, and figure things out with their fleshly minds. They engage in politics, and religion, and they fight the New Age, and any other percieved injustice. Never do they understand that the Lord is allowing much that is going on in this world to continue, until He returns with a rod of iron. He will break the nations into shards, and He will reform them to His desire. When He returns will he find faith on earth?

paul said...

Amen 6:57
One gets the impression from the unanswered question that no, he won't find faith when he returns, but we do know that it won't be too long after he returns that the earth will be filled with the knowledge of God.
Your comments bring to mind the Prophets of old; living apart from the crowd and only going into town to preach repentance and warn the people of coming judgement. I doubt if anyone was glad to see them when they did come walking into town.
Which in turn reminds me that the definition of holiness is to be set aside and separate, for God. Austerity indeed.
Friendship with the world is enmity with God.

omots said...

Pride can lead us to become prisoners of our own preconceived ideas. Case in point….the debate over Ted Cruz’s eligibility issue, which is an issue that has caused deep divisions among conservatives, including those who consider themselves “Christian”.

Recent polls show that one quarter of likely Republican voters believe Cruz to be ineligible. To me, it looks as though we are being played for fools, arguing like Pharisees over the letter of the law while missing the intent and spirit of the law.

I am not interested, nor will I engage in debating the eligibility issue on this blog. I am more interested in hearing opinions about where this will lead, who or what may benefit from such division, and if anyone thinks such divisiveness merely reveals the arrogance of man, or is part of some demonic “plan”, and/or is God ordained, i.e. prophetic?

Does this issue have anything to do with “Christian dominionism”, which I define as legalism in the extreme intended (by some) to prepare the earth for the return of Christ, or “the Christ” as some prefer?

Marko said...


More and more I have this sense that Ted Cruz is part of a Dominionist-Populist movement. There's just something that raises alarm bells with me regarding him, but I don't know what it is yet. Maybe I'm being too alarmist.

Our elections sometimes result from pendulum swings in voter mood. We've gone way to the left with Obama, and now I think the stage might be set for a big swing to the right. A swing as in a landslide akin to Reagan's win in 1980. But with that big swing, could we end up could putting someone into power who is a Dominionist?

Campaign video just put up yesterday:

And what's with the campaign logo? Looks like a combination of a flame and a flag. Holy Spirit outpouring on America? Restoration, revival, reconstruction?

omots said...

Thanks Marko, very perceptive re the logo.

I hadn't seen that particular ad yet, was obviously designed to appeal to Christian dominionists and those who are nostalgic for the America they believe existed at some point in the past. It certainly paints Ted Cruz as a savior.

Questions: Is it wrong to be hopeful that this nation can turn away from it's wicked ways? Does Ted Cruz believe in his own message, or is it all just fluff? Does he comprehend all that is required for an entire nation to repent? Is he sincere, or is he just another deceptive politician, one potentially more dangerous than all the others?

Everything I see points to a near future of further division and discord, which I believe is an indicator that we are indeed drawing closer to, if not already living in, the "end times". Yet I can't help but like Ted's message. Hmmmm....

Anonymous said...

I tend to agree with you, Marko and OMOTS. And yes, I do like Cruz but.........
I do believe the world is ripe and ready for the last of the last as the times of the fullness of the Gentiles is ramped up, and Israels' treatment by the world, that is also ramped up incredibly, and more so everyday as we are even now, speaking. Israel is The Sign (the big one) for our times according to the Bible as I am understanding it.

I actually question whether there will even be an election with Obama and all of his prep (built upon many decades of eroding American Sovereignty-it's very will to continue to be what it was founded upon) that may turn guns on American citizenry, keeping his place in power as things do the final transition to all things global?
This whole thing is fleshing out remarkably for him to enter the world stage somewhere (though
I don't think he is the actual man of sin, just a prelude for him-with others on the religious front doing their part also).

There are some real parallels in play these days, and I can't help but think that any of them played out to their max will be anything good.
God alone is good (and The Answer) and this whole world is groaning (louder all the time) under the sheer weight of all this degradation for Him to step in--from both the negative and positive sides of looking at it.
My hope is not in anything of man, no matter what face you put on it.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said... How Big Oil Conquered the World

after the 37:00 time point, this mentions tat Bilderberg, including Rothschild,
engineered the Yom Kippur war, a surprise attack against Israel, as part of a scheme
to drive up oil prices. Clearly, Rothschild is more interested in money than in
Israel. conspiracy researchers are often too simplistic when it comes to "the Jews."
I put that in quotation marks because anti semites, antizionists, anti Khazars or
whatever they call themselves, treat them as a bloc.

There ARE real conspiracies, including Bilderberg, and the New Age, but they won't
be understood as long as certain presuppositions are brought to the analysis as omots said at 9:53 "Pride can lead us to become prisoners of our own preconceived ideas." (someone here had the audacity to accuse me of attacking Dorothy for her Jewishness, to which I responded that that person is a filthy liar. a typical false accusation to which I have been subjected here over the years. I never said anything remotely resembling such a thing, and if the person was talking about my statement that her theology won't allow her to see the bigger picture that only Christian theology and eschatology can point you to, that is true of ANY non Christian religion as the content of the post should make obvious.)

marko said...


You echo the same questions and thoughts in my mind. I'd like to think of Cruz as a second Reagan, or as close to that as we're likely to ever get.

Speaking of Reagan, if I may reminisce....

I was in college in the fall of 1980. My roommate and I were the "unofficial" Republican headquarters in our dorm. We had a Reagan / Bush poster on our door, and I remember well the feeling of elation as we watched state after state go to Reagan.

He was the greatest president of my lifetime, in spite of his (and Nancy's) shortcomings. He stared down the Soviet Union, which got him a lot of points in my book. He is almost universally credited (along with Margaret Thatcher) for winning the Cold War.

From the time of his dealings with Gorbachev though, and "Perestroika", and on into the early 90s, I had mixed feelings about this supposed victory. I was again in college, in the fall of 1989, having returned to try my hand in journalism, and remember spending many evenings watching the news on TV as tens or hundreds of thousands of people protested against the Soviet Union in their respective Republics. I should have been studying for tests, or writing papers, but this was history in the making! What feelings of elation I had as I watched millions of people tell their Soviet masters to basically shove it. Those were good times for all of us anti-communists.


When you win a war, isn't something supposed to happen to the losing side? If the leaders of the Soviet Union were such criminals against humanity (and they were!), why was there no repeat of something like the Nuremberg Trials? What did we win, exactly? Was Communism gone, dead and buried? Everyone (especially conservatives) seemed to think so. But I didn't quite swallow it.

This is a good example, by the way, of wanting to believe something so badly, that when it apparently happens, you take it at face value, and no further investigation is done. We wanted to win the Cold War, we *knew* we would eventually win, so when the USSR collapsed, well, of course that meant we won, and there was no point anymore in worrying about that enemy.

Read the works of Jeff Nyquist, and others with a similar outlook, based on lots of research, and you will find that our pronouncement of winning the Cold War was premature.

As we know now, Communism is very much alive and well. The centers of power and control from whence that Communism emanated still exist, and more than likely they still exist in the same places - Moscow and Beijing. It still seeks to destroy the West, and America in particular. The seeds of division and revolution that were planted here in our educational system back when the Soviet Union still existed as our very visible and aggressive enemy have taken root, and the mature plants from that labor are still producing fruit.

"Black Lives Matter", the Occupy movement, the Furgeson riots and others - the list is almost endless - are tearing the country apart, and are all part of the same revolutionary spirit that seeks to divide and destroy what is left of America that is still good. And the connections to far-left, communist, or other anti-American groups and people (with lots of money, I might add) are many.

As James Simpson stated in a recent interview with Trevor Loudon, (and this goes back to some comments earlier here), large institutions that were initially created for philanthropic and good reasons were infiltrated, and large amounts of money are being siphoned off for all kinds of revolutionary, radical and far-left causes, most of whom seek to divide Americans on every level - race, income, gender, etc.

I really don't see much hope for this division to go away. I'm surprised, really, that we are still here as a relatively peaceful nation. I think this will be a very "interesting" year leading up to the elections. If we even have them.

Interview between James Simpson and Trevor Loudon:

Anonymous said...

First half of your post is okay Cristine @ 1:04 PM, but the parenthesis of last paragraph.....
Makes me think, why do I still even read her posts like, ever, since she will finds a way to make it about her?

Real or (and mostly) perceived slights, you throw those barbed defensive quills.
Get over yourself.

Anonymous said...


I agree that those who are gifted intellectually tend to be overly susceptible to pride, but you are nonetheless setting up a false dichotomy by ignoring creation in its fullness. The God who created simple, saintly folk also created the intellectual giant. One can be an intellectual giant and still be "pure of heart," but the inverse is also true, that one can be uneducated ("simple) yet be quite evil and corrupt.

Faith and reason do not contradict each other. I am very grateful for the intellectually gifted who comment here who use their gifts to serve God.

Susanna said...


Have you seen Alexander Dugin's website called ARCTOGAIA? Here it is.


Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said... "This fascinating early history is now more readily available to readers. Dr. Martin Erdmann has just re-released his landmark study on the earliest efforts to build the kingdom of God on earth, otherwise known as Dominionism. "

the dulles brothers were leading the charge. CFR and so forth.

something keeps bugging my mind. this triggered it again. I wonder if the antichrist when he comes to power will be taking over a technically Christian dominionist scene, of a postmillennial bent, and will apply secret second coming
secret rapture notions, eliminating the rapture part or staving it off to explain people not disappearing unless they did so by the stealth grab in the night and supposedly they will rule in heaven and now he the antichrist claims the rest will be on earth and he is supposedly Jesus Christ?

or something like that.

Susanna said...


Looks like our man Dugin has been a very busy boy over the past few years. Keep in mind that Mircea Eliade was from Romania and was involved with the Legion of Archangel Michael.

Putins Aide Visits Neo-Nazis in Romania, While the Far Right Forms an International Alliance

By Jennifer Baker on 11/22/2013

Dugin also paid a little visit to the head of the Golden Dawn in Greece.

Top Russian Advisor, Aleksandr Dugin, Communicating With N.G. Michaloliakos Via Letters- Defencenet: Οι επιστολές Αλεξάντερ Ντούγκιν – Ν. Γ. Μιχαλολιάκου

Susanna said...

P.S. Marko

Here is a nice little "photo-op" for former KKK leader David Duke who was photographed standing next to Alexander Dugin.

Russian fascist Aleksandr Dugin's dreams of dictatorship in Russia
27 February 2014

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"Obviously, neo-Eurasianists are planning to get rid of Putin and establish a full-fledged totalitarian fascist state. As Andreas Umland argues, Putin’s current project for the Eurasian Union is authoritarian and restorationist, while Dugin's project is fascist and revolutionary. However, even if their goals are different, Dugin sees Putin as a temporary ally. Moreover, “the first step to Dugin’s new empire is the restoration of the old empire sought by Putin”. In this sense, Putin, even if not directly pursuing Dugin’s plan, does perform steps which may – in the long run – lead to the implementation of Dugin’s project."

aha! even Dugin admits that Putin isn't his puppet however much Dugin wants him to be so.

Susanna said...

Christine, 6:47 PM

RE: aha! even Dugin admits that Putin isn't his puppet however much Dugin wants him to be so.

That is correct. Let's not forget that Putin is former KGB.

But Dugin has said that he doesn't want to be in the catbird seat of power. He is content to be the proverbial power behind the throne.

Marko said...

OK, now I'm confused.

Sarah Palin just tossed her support to The Donald.

I thought Palin was tied in with Dominionists. So shouldn't she back Cruz? Maybe he isn't the Dominionist I thought he was.

Maybe there's gonna be two "Kingdoms" of God fighting for control of America? Now *that* would be at the very least, interesting.

Isn't it nice to have so many vying for the "evangelical vote", as Greta said? Evangelical? She keeps using that word. I don't think that word means what she thinks it means. (With apologies to Princess Bride...)

Oh well. Back to the drawing board, as they say, to do some more research.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...


"But Dugin has said that he doesn't want to be in the catbird seat of power. He is content to be the proverbial power behind the throne."

the power behind the throne has more potential staying power than the man on the throne, and less likely to be targeted by opponents, as a cartoon said about our version of this, "presidents come and presidents go but the kissinbundy goes on forever."

Anonymous said...


Ted Cruz has a wife who worked for CFR and Goldman Sachs. Goldman who has a straight flow back and forth between the Treasury Dept and Wall St. is everything that is wrong this country. Ted is not a USA natural-born US citizen, no more than problem another one we all can think of. I fear this is part of the plan to break borders and sovereignty.

He had unreported "loans" from Goldman Sachs. We know the truth is no one can win an election here in USA unless they have strong backing from Wall St., Big Pharma and the defense industry, etc.

When campaigns cost what they do, they can no longer represent the will of average Americans. This is a huge problem. We are not a Democracy but a Republic, but the people that represent us now are part of a club. That club has nothing to do with our interests.

I'm a bit tired of candidates playing the born-again Christian card. It's a well known fact that Evangelicals are a majority in our country, so playing that card will help your campaign. I would rather see true campaign reform where we aren't offered the same small group of candidates who rotate in and out of office like Clintons and Bushes, and some of the others. If JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs don't back someone, chances are they'll have a hard time getting into office. Maybe Ted is a genuine born-again believer. Hard to say, but I remember when we all thought George Bush was too. Some of us now have our doubts. We are not going to get a "savior" in the White House and we're not a theocracy.

It would be nice to see someone who is competent and not connected to the political establishment run, but here are those in the shadows who really do pull the strings and we really don't have a government where the system of checks and balances works anymore, nor is there States rights. Our Presidents are figure heads who are controlled by those in the shadows who really make our laws. Whenever legislation is written, it's written by people in the industry concerned. We used to call this conflict of interest, but now its standard operating procedure.

I'm nor in love with Donald Trump either. Again, he's a billionaire who says a lot of right things, even though he says them in a very obnoxious way. He is appealing to the people who are sick of Washington insiders. The system is broken. According to Larry Nichols, if the RNC doesn't want Trump to win they can make it quite difficult. We'll see.

Not sure what to think of his candidacy. Is he a distraction or a genuine candidate who has a chance of winning. The system is rigged enough that no one can be independent of the wealthy corporate interests. If they are chances are they won't be around very long. Remember what happened to JFK. Trump is enough of a politician and pragmatist that he would play the game too, if he were allowed to get into office, but it's hard to picture any of them as President if the truth be known. It seems like they all have some kind of problem that makes them unelectable, either than or they are just not very strong candidates.

( Hillary-emailgate and Benghazi, Donald Trump-just being Donald Trump, Ted Cruz-citzenship-Mark Rubio-the same, Jeb Bush-being a Bush) . In a country of 300million we can't come up with better candidates than this? It reminds me of when Mitt Romney ran last time. His mormonism was a huge problem. Or putting McCain with Sarah Palin ( an old guy with a controversial woman). Is it possible that this 2 party system is just a huge distraction that we get to watch every 2 years for 2 years?

In all of the past elections at least since Jimmy Carter, it seem like the candidate has been chosen and not elected.

Sorry about the rant, but you get burnt a couple of times and then you wake up.

Marko said...

And now we have Glen Beck supporting Cruz:

Things are getting interesting, indeed.



Interesting website you linked to above (ARCTOGAIA). I need more time to look into it, but it does seem to tie things together quite nicely regarding the New Age, Eurasianism, Gnosticism, etc.

At the bottom I see that webpage is part of a webring (they still do that?? How old-school...) called "Tradition - Revolution". What's that all about? Those are typically looked at as opposites. Are they somehow trying to integrate them?

In one sense, our own American Revolution over 200 years ago was a "Tradition Revolution", ie, it wasn't a revolution against the current order, like the French Revolution. Rather, it was an attempt to preserve the current order against the "radical" taxation / tyrannical policies of the King of England.

omots said...

As I said previously, I will not get into a debate re the Cruz eligibility issue here on this blog because there really is no end to the matter until/unless any challenge to his candidacy reaches the Supreme Court.

I will say this though.... the bulk of citizenship law has always sided with both jus soli and jus sanguinis, or "birthright citizenship" (look up the definition) as meaning the same as "natural born" or conferring the same rights and privileges under the law. And then there is the 14th Amendment to consider...

On the matter of Ted's wife's connections to the CFR and big banks being an automatic disqualifier, that is the responsibility of the individual who may be concerned about those connections to do more research on. I agree that to attain the Presidency requires support from powerful people and big money powers, but, for what it's worth....Heidi Cruz was a CFR member only temporary, on assignment from the Bush admin, and while there she indicated her dissent from the anti-American views of the CFR. And also, for what it's worth, while Heidi worked at the CFR, Cruz called that organization, "a pernicious nest of snakes...working to undermine U.S. sovereignty."

My current view on the matter (subject to correction and change) is outlined on my blog page.

Anonymous said...

We don't come up with the candidates!

They grow up as tares in this wicked and adulterous nation.

Yes, let's 'get out the vote'!!!!

Marko said...


Thank you for illustrating so well what I meant when I called for more investigation regarding typical "conspiracy codewords" posts and comments, in this case "CFR".

We all need to do more of that kind of work. Like Anon. 2:03 PM said, faith and reason do not contradict each other.

Marko said...

But I will add: Sometimes faith takes us beyond reason. Sometimes God asks you to do something that human reason says is impossible, or not "reasonable". And in those cases, it's best to obey God rather than your intellect!

omots said...


Isn't it interesting that while the ivory tower globalists are busy calling for and building their "one world order"....everything we see happening on the ground indicates increased division!

God's judgement on the Plains of Shinar cannot be overturned by human will, or, as the Vatican's Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace has attempted to do, by REINTERPRETING Genesis 11:1-9.

Here's what the PCJP (Cardinal Turkson) declared:

“Through the account of the Tower of Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), the Bible warns us how the “diversity” of peoples can turn into a vehicle for selfishness and an instrument of division. In humanity there is a real risk that peoples will end up not understanding each other and that cultural differences will lead to irremediable oppositions. The image of the Tower of Babel also warns us that we must avoid a “unity” that is only apparent, where selfishness and divisions endure because the foundations of the society are not stable. In both cases, Babel is the image of what peoples and individuals can become when they do not recognize their intrinsic, transcendent dignity and brotherhood.

“The spirit of Babel is the antithesis of the Spirit of Pentecost (Acts 2:1-12), of God’s design for the whole of humanity: that is, unity in truth. Only a spirit of concord that rises above divisions and conflicts will allow humanity to be authentically one family and to conceive of a new world with the creation of a world public Authority at the service of the common good.”

Question: Is that really what the scripture means?

Anonymous said...

Critine, you wrote at 1:04 PM

"(someone here had the audacity to accuse me of attacking Dorothy for her Jewishness, to which I responded that that person is a filthy liar. a typical false accusation to which I have been subjected here over the years. I never said anything remotely resembling such a thing...)"

Could not your horrendous attack on Dorothy over a book to do with the New Age and Nazism (and your denial it was so) be rightly construed an attack on her Jewishness?

Oh what a selective memory you have, infowoof! Has the resident seered conscience aka psychic vampire been draining it? Or have the martians or the giants of Nibiru robbed it? Or perhaps you have become senile through dabbling in doctrines of devils (chakras, etc) and in your attempts at twisting Holy Writ?

Evenso, I put it to you, you are audaciously deceptive, deluded and deceitful!

Susanna said...

Marko 9:41 A.M.

Re:At the bottom I see that webpage is part of a webring (they still do that?? How old-school...) called "Tradition - Revolution". What's that all about? Those are typically looked at as opposites. Are they somehow trying to integrate them?

That is what "Traditionalism" is all about......the bogus esoteric "transcendent" UNITY of all things.....even thaose things that might contradict each other exoterically.

Do you recall the so-called "Synchronicity" that Bjorn and some of his friends appeared to be involved in???? Same circus different clowns.

Dugin's ideology has bee described as "Manichaean." The Manichaeans are said to have postulated the existence of two equal but opposite "Absolutes."

Anonymous said...

Ecumenical Quest for a World Federation (The Rise of Modern Dominionism)

You might find this interesting:

Dr. Erdmann's work was originally titled Building the Kingdom of God on Earth: The Churches' Contribution to Marshal Public Support for World Order and Peace, 1919-1945 (Wipf and Stock, 2005). It is now being republished.

Before the Religious Right there were decades of activity laying the groundwork for a merger of church and state. Power elite leaders such as John Foster Dulles and his brother Allen began to drum up religious fervor as a tool to build their utopian vision of a global international order. Their influential efforts would eventually gain more traction during the Eisenhower administration where both of these brothers ascended to prominent positions of power. By 1980 their vision would culminate in the rise of the Christian Right. (See Tuesday, January 19, 2016)

Dave in CA

Susanna said...


Russian Orthodox official, dismissed in December shake-up, reports media blackout on his views

January 13, 2016

A leading official of the Russian Orthodox Church, who was dismissed from his post in December because of disputes with Moscow’s Patriarch Kirill, has been denied access to Russia’s secular media, the AsiaNews service reports.

Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin, who had headed the Russian Orthodox Synod’s department for Church and Society, said that he has been denied an opportunity to explain his side of the internal dispute. He charged on his Facebook page that news agencies “are trying to avoid any of my statements from being carried on almost all Russian media.” He said that the media blackout must be the result of a “directive given by the Patriarch himself” with the support of Russia’s government leaders. The Russian cleric, who has criticized the tight partnership between the Orthodox Patriarchate and the Russian government, reported that a press conference he had scheduled with the news agency Interfax had been canceled. The Russian News Service reported on his dismissal, but never called him for a comment, he said. And interviews recorded before his dismissal have never been published or broadcast.


Susanna said...


And now here is another story from Radio Free Europe............


Orthodox Priest Gives Russians One More Thing To Worry About
By Daisy Sindelar
February 26, 2015

The Russian literary world barely batted an eye when a little-known writer, Aron Shemaiyer, published a dystopic e-novella, "Machaut and the Bears," last year.

But interest is now picking up, with the revelation that Shemaiyer is the nom de plume of Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin, the influential spokesman of the Russian Orthodox Church.

Suddenly, the plot of "Machaut" -- which describes the apocalyptic destruction of 2043 Moscow at the hands of Islamists, Ukrainians, and gays -- seems less like the ravings of a lonely keyboard warrior and more like a well-informed window on what scares the Kremlin most.

"'The press secretary to the president of the Moscow Confederation and Assembly of Revolution Leaders, Tasho Pim, has warned that people who fail to comply with the new ban on intolerant thinking will be subject to involuntary euthanasia,'" a news report announces in the opening scene, followed shortly by an ad for a "happiness generator" called the HaHaHa 25.0. (The full text of the novella is available here.)

What follows is a chaotic world Chaplin himself characterizes as a "liberal hell" --vegan breakfasts, dreadlocked African legionnaires, "intergender" ad executives who go by the personal pronoun "it," and, considering the author, a curiously detailed hookup involving graphic language and a "sex-generation belt."

By the end of the story, the Moscow Confederation has fallen amid fighting between Free Russia fascists, Caucasus militants, and Ukrainian nationalists; in appropriately Biblical style, the once-great city has been reduced to rubble by nuclear bombs.

Chaplin insists the spectacular ending -- which he praises as "absolutely Christian" -- is not meant as hyperbolic fantasy. To the contrary, he tells Nezavisimaya Gazeta, it's what will inevitably happen to Russia "if we continue to follow ultraliberal values into a dead head."

"These values can only end in totalitarianism because they're lifeless, they're antihuman, they rape the very nature of the individual and society," he says.

Russia-watcher Paul Goble suggests the hyperbolic tone of Chaplin's story reveals how nervous the ruling elite may be about the fragility of the Russian Federation. It also, he says, underscores a growing divide between Moscow and the rest of the country.

Chaplin, who recently edited a handbook by the Russian Orthodox Church offering behavioral tips for foreign migrants -- don't talk loudly, eat borscht -- says it remains the duty of all Russians to fight for the preservation of Russian culture.

"Russia is the third Rome," he says in an interview with the religious website

"Russia is the only center of unenslaved civilization capable of revealing itself as Christian. So our patriotism is not chauvinism or a call of blood...It's primarily an understanding of the importance of our unique Christian mission -- a mission, I'm convinced, that our people have been put on earth to fulfill."

Susanna said...

P.S. Marko


Susanna said...

The following EXACTLY reflects what the late Russian defector Sergei Tretyakov ( Comrade J) revealed with regard to NATO with the only revision being that now NATO is Russia's number one target instead of the United States.

Chaplin is also mentioned in the following article. Even though he was the official spokesman of the Moscow Patriarchate and had a very close relationship with Patriarch Kirill, IMHO, he sounds more like a spokesman for Alexander Dugin!

Putin’s Orthodox Jihad

December 27, 2014

Yesterday Russia announced a revised military doctrine, signed by President Vladimir Putin, that names NATO as the Kremlin’s main adversary and clarifies that Russia’s military reserves the right to respond to conventional threats with both nuclear and conventional weapons. This is no big change, since it only amplifies existing doctrine, but its explicit emphasis on NATO as the primary threat to Russia’s security has raised Western eyebrows, as intended. Anyone who thought the West, led by the United States, could lay waste to Russia’s economy through sanctions brought about by Russia’s aggression in Ukraine, without significant pushback from Moscow, is too naive to deal in such important affairs. The new year promises to be a busy one, with myriad forms of retaliation emanating from Moscow, some possibly very unpleasant, as I recently more...

Dan Bryan said...

Dear Susanna,

Putin’s Orthodox Jihad
This is a great piece, thanks.

I remember there was talk years back about cooperation with and joining as a power block (Russia and the USA)

The essence and focus of our project is already clear from the title "AMERICA-RUSSIA: from confrontation to alliance".
Today, mention of the word "alliance" with regard to US-Russian relations grates hearing unless the most calloused "native soil" and adherents of confrontation the United States and Russia in a spirit not yet definitively forgotten Cold War. Such, alas, a lot in both our countries. It would seem that the American tragedy of September 11, 2001 and was supposed to teach them that the Cold War had passed irrevocably:
Excerpt from the link:

In 2013 the FX network came out with their program 'The Americans' of which I believe was a show to soften Americans feelings for Russia.

Coincidentally, that same year Edward Snowden arrived on the scene and landed on Russia's doorstep. And after his opening of the books to Russia, they changed their posture to raise a front against the USA - rightfully so in my opinion.

I think the globalist were intending this union and may still be nurturing it?
I see Snowden as being anti-American of sorts, but also see it as some derision thrown into that effort in unity.

Anything that throws globalist plans into derision is a good thing, yes?

Psalms 2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Pray for derision!

Anonymous said...


I agree that the natural born citizen definition needs to be settled in court. Unfortunately, our Supreme Court today is not what it used to be. The Supreme Court has changed the definition of marriage, gotten involved with healthcare legislation that is bankrupting the country. Not a big fan of this particular Supreme Court and it looks like even members who would normally have taken conservative positions are under tremendous pressure to agree with the administration.

Ted Cruz's rant against CFR is about as meaningful as Hillary's rant against Wall St. The reality is, like it or not, the system is set up that the candidate who is backed by the big corporate banking interests is the one who wins. Heidi Cruz is a Wall St. insider and he received loans from her Firm that were unreported. It's not nearly as bad as Hillary Clinton's illegal use of a private server and her endless conflicts of interest with the Clinton Foundation, but the truth is that the system is rigged. It's not that Cruz is too good to be elected, it's that our elections are fraudulent period. Personally I don't want anyone connected with Goldman Sachs or Merrill Lynch running the country. They already have for too long and that's why the system is going to fall apart.

The system needs a complete overhaul. We will not and cannot get a good candidate until people get fed up and ask for a new government with new campaign laws. It's just that simple. John Kennedy was assassinated because he realized what was wrong. I wrote a much longer explanation of all that is wrong but I went over the limit, so I'll just say that unless Americans are willing to stand up and take back their nation, we will continue to have bogus elections that will entertain everyone but in the end produce candidates that are mere figureheads doing what the people in the shadows want them to do. The problem is that people have been willing to settle for too long, and now our country is probably mostly controlled by powerful interests who care little for you or me.

It might already be too late to change anything because the population is way too apathetic, and a bit under-informed. Too many actually listen to CNN, ABC, FOX, all who are run by the same powerful interests that run everything else.

omots said...

Anon 11:59

I believe we, as a nation, usually, but not always, get the kind of government we deserve. That is why I think Cruz is too good to be President at this moment in our history.

Of course "good" is a relative term. Maybe I should just say, that in my opinion, Cruz is the strongest Constitutionalist running, which is the best we can ask for in a President. That said, Cruz's neocon-dominionist views, if not tempered by reality, are potentially more troublesome to me than any omissions he made on his financial disclosure forms. But alas, I already know my vote won't count. Washington State's electoral votes are certain to go to the Dems, as usual.

The realist in me says that regardless of who wins the Presidency, I do not think this nation's slide towards Gomorrah can be reversed. Slowed maybe, but not reversed. Some of the others if elected, would certainly contribute to accelerating that slide. Maybe Jesus will return sooner if we all just throw in the towel and vote for Sanders!

Your cynicism and pessimism re "the system" are certainly understandable, many people feel the same way, including me. It is definitely broken. But please explain to me this hope you seem to have of a Phoenix rising out of the ashes scenario. You seem to imply that things can improve, get better, or get fixed...when it gets so intolerable, or after things fall apart, that only then will Americans demand "a complete overhaul", which, according to you, could happen when "Americans are willing to stand up and take back their nation". You also wrote, "we won't "get a good candidate until the people get fed up and ask for a new government".


What right does an uninformed, misinformed, immoral, amoral, self serving people have to demand anything? Again I say, we get the kind of government we deserve, which is why I think tyranny or anarchy may be just around the corner.

Putin's Orthodox Jihad scenario might be very attractive to some of our fellow citizens.

paul said...

There is NO WAY that an electronic voting booth system can be rigged or even tainted.
There is NO WAY that a person can become President of the US unless that person is thoroughly vetted
and found to be a patriotic American born citizen.
There is no way that that an American Presidential candidate could possibly be "in the pocket" of any
special interest group such as The Muslim Brotherhood; it's impossible, period.

And I'd like to take this opportunity to offer the next ten people who call, a chance of a lifetime on some
truly Prime Real Estate in sunny warm Florida. We're talking pennies on the dollar here, but you must hurry,
because these opportunities won't last long.

Anonymous said...

You speaka my language OMOTS @ 1:40 AM.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Just as a side note, those who are left posting here might have an insight on why others have left. Christine can't only be the reason. Understanding this might be a way to bring others back to important information about the New Age movement, unless those left do not understand that importance, focusing on their own beliefs. Documented information about the New Age network might only be a tiny reason for this site. There must have been good reasons for Cumbey to focus decades of her life on the topic. Any comments?

Marko said...

For anyone but omots: :^)

Cliff Kincaid's USA Survival just posted a new video on YouTube. Here's the blurb under the video:

J.B. Williams, co-founder of the U.S. Patriots Union and the North American Law Center, describes the failure of political will by Republican to impeach Barack Hussein Obama. The Republican National Committee just voted to table a resolution on impeachment. He also addresses questions about whether Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are eligible to run for president.

Susanna said...

Dear Dan,

Re:I remember there was talk years back about cooperation with and joining as a power block (Russia and the USA)

That is correct. The late Norman Dodd, who was the chief investigator in 1953 for U.S. Congressman B. Carroll Reece Special Committee on Tax Exempt Foundations (commonly referred to as the Reece Committee), said that this was exactly what was being planned....namely, a merger between the U.S. and the Soviet Union.

The Reece Committee was a branch of the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) and was investigating tax exempt foundations which were suspected of using their tax-exempt status to spread communism.

Here is the interview of Norman Dodd conducted by Edward Griffin so that you can listen for yourself. I have listened to the interview several times and find it just as riveting each time I hear it.

Norman Dodd - The Hidden Agenda For World Government

This morning Fox News reported that a British inquiry into the death of former KGB officer Alexander Litvinenko concluded that Putin probably approve of Litvinenko's poisoning.

Here is a report form the New York Times.

Putin ‘Probably Approved’ Litvinenko Poisoning, British Inquiry Says


As I said earlier, Alexander Dugin's ideology has ben described in an article at National Review as "Manichaean" insofar as he sees the world as being eventually divided into the "forces of good" embodied by the Eurasian Union and the "forces of evil" embodied by the Western "Atlanticist" countries- including Britain, the U.S. and other English-speaking countries......any Christian denomination that is NOT Russian Orthodox........


Susanna said...

P.S. Dan,

Russian defector Sergei Tretyakov - a.k.a. "Comrade J" - died under what many believe to be suspicious circumstances not long after his book was published. He died in June of 2010, but his death was not publicly announced until July of that year.

Comrade J: The Untold Secrets of Russia's Master Spy in America After the End of the Cold War Paperback – January 6, 2009

by Pete Earley (Author)

Susanna said...

P.P.S. Dan Bryan

Hot off the is an example of what Norman Dodd was talking about!

Exclusive: Former Pearson Exec Reveals Anti-American Agenda in Common Core

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 10:38

"Could not your horrendous attack on Dorothy over a book to do with the New Age and Nazism (and your denial it was so) be rightly construed an attack on her Jewishness?

Oh what a selective memory you have, infowoof!"

Oh what a selective memory YOU'VE got! I was the one who defended her against a horrendous attack from someone because she was mildly into kaballah. which for your uninformed information is a set of books that ranges from puzzling but biblical to full on almost satanic with the idea of God's Shekinah or glow of glory being a female entity that is His wife which is rejoined to Him during the sex act of married worshippers (and probably the same idea in Frankist heretical cult orgies).

I am not going to let such a damaging false accusation against me go unanswered. Go search the archives. I didn't do any attack on her. I pointed out that kabbalism as it has gotten into the Jewish mainstream is the mild version of no importance while someone else was screaming she was new age and into this evil stuff and so forth.

Anonymous said...


I don't have hope about the phoenix bird rising. I agree that we get what we deserve and God's judgement is coming to America and it will be painful.

The phoenix bird coming out of the ashes is an occult symbol which was used on the Economist magazine cover and at a mural a the UN Security Council which describes resurrection in the very worst sense of that word which is the globalists plan to make a NWO. I call this the beast system so I am not at all hopeful about it, but confident that Jesus will come back and crush it as it says in Daniel and Revelations. in the meantime we have to persevere in him and recognize that we are living in evil days.

Anonymous said...

I should add to that that America is the sacrificial lamb. Because our petrodollars have been spread around the world in the last almost 50 years, when they kill the dollar it will create havoc all over and this will give the globalists the opportunity to roll out their new system.

Dennis Cuddy thinks it will be under the next President but the dollar will die under this one ( or be severely wounded) and chaos will ensue. Dennis probably based that on the 1988 cover of the Economist. We also know that 2 previous world wars moved us closer to this objective. The 3rd is designed to accomplish it. I think God will allow this delusion to come over and people will accept it. Look how much they have accepted already. I wholeheartedly agree with you that it is judgment.

I don't trust any of the candidates or the system anymore. A lot of people in America are very naive and trusting. This would not be a bad thing if the system wasn't so utterly corrupt, but at some point if they don't wake up it will be too late, and we may already be too late. I know there are people that fast and pray, but even in Ancient Israel you had some righteous people and God still judged the nation as a whole when their sins were piled too high.

I think the blood of the aborted babies whose body parts were used for experimentation is crying out from the ground. This year when it was revealed that Planned Parenthood was selling the parts and aborting the babies for profit, there should have been a groundswell of outrage from the 4 corners of the country demanding that Planned Parenthood be shut down. The nation is sacrificing their children to Molech. From reports Satanists are often present at these abortions. I don't know but child sacrifice is satanic. This is not our only sin as a people. A lot of innocent blood has been shed by our nation and it's not because of the lack of gun control.

I could go on, but I'll spare you because I'm sure you are equally as disgusted. I don't think the system can be changed with out changing the entire government and we have the right under the Constitution but it won't happen.

I don't consider that the Phoenix bird rising. The Phoenix bird rising is when the globalists, the central banks, and others kill the dollar and usher in a new technocratic dictatorship which will attempt to control every aspect of our lives. I believe this is the beast system spoken of in Revelations and Patrick Wood has spoken about this too, as well as others. Didn't mean to be confusing.

Constance Cumbey said...

Still behind on catching up and monitoring board here -- sorry. Mixed week for health issues. In the meantime, a book I ordered for my research, THE RESILIENCE OF CHRISTIANITY by one Joseph Tamney arrived from Amazon. It is published by SUNY. Knowing of SUNY's prominent role in giving respectability to New Age issues, I decided to google "Tamney" and "New Age". I was more than shocked to come up with the following that I had not expected to see:

Joseph B. Tamney
Joseph B. Tamney was a liberal sociology professor, formerly at Ball State University, who specialized in studying members of religious communities. He also served as an editor of the journal Sociology of Religion[1]. As far as Christianity goes, his work completely ignores Conservative Christianity's doctrinal position[2] as a source of its growth and truth, instead likening its members' interest and commitment to the forces of radical Islam. He has harshly criticized Stanford University-trained psychologist Paul C. Vitz and the conservative attorney Constance Cumbey[3]. He has also harshly criticized the Roman Catholic church as anti-Marxist[4] and unsympathetic towards South American radical priests. In his last book The Resilience of Conservative Religion (2002), he put Christian conservatives into the same religious category as one of the most radical and most hate-filled Islamic figures of the late 20th century: the Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini[5].

He died on 25 October, 2009.

The source was "Conservapedia." I'll have to do some more looking around there. Maybe Susanna knows more about them.



omots said...

Thank you anon 12:03, 12:21

I am well aware of the occult/pagan/new age use of the Phoenix symbol, but it was also apparently used by at least some of the early church “fathers”, (i.e. Clement), to affirm that the pagan world already had a parallel belief, understanding, and/or hope in the concept of resurrection.

As noted by David L. Jeffrey in A Dictionary of Biblical Tradition in English Literature (1992) - “Not surprisingly, early Christian writers construed the phoenix as a symbol not only of resurrection in general but also of Christ himself and his resurrection in particular.”

The Phoenix is also associated with the term “order out of chaos”, which leads to even more speculation, since that specific phrase is closely linked with the 33rd level of Freemasonry. And of course, everyone remembers Rahm Emmanuel’s remarks, “Never let a good crisis go to waste. ” Yes indeed, Phoenix allusions seem to be a popular tool among politicians these days.

Marko mentioned Cruz’s logo… a red white and blue flame symbol, which is probably meant to convey a patriotic version of the Holy Spirit. But perhaps it is also a throwback to the Phoenix, especially considering so much of the dominionist mindset revolves around re-taking or re-building America (and the rest of the world) from the rubble of moral and social decline.

People everywhere are grasping at straws, falling for the false promise that MAN can somehow make this fallen world work, if somehow we all just pull together i.e. the U.N. "common destiny of mankind" thing, or maybe if we just empower the right sort of strong man who can fix everything by his sheer force of will.

Susanna said...

Constance, 2:08 AM



(1933-) Professor of Sociology, Ball State University (Muncie, Indiana); editor Sociology of Religion , 1995-2000.

Tamney's research in the sociology of religion has focused on the reasons for religiosity and on religious change. His publications emphasize a cross-cultural approach that is equally amenable to both quantitative and qualitative data. He works comfortably in the study of contemporary Christianity and in East Asian traditions. His major book-length studies are The Resilience of Christianity in the Modern World (SUNY Press 1992), an account of the persistence of Christian belief and practice in contradistinction to predictions of secularization theories, and American Society in the Buddhist Mirror (Garland 1992), an assessment of the appeal of Buddhism in the United States.

Tamney has published extensively in the major journals in the social scientific study of religion. His articles on religion in the United States emphasize religion-and-politics issues—the religious right generally and abortion-related topics specifically. Because Muncie is the locale of the historic "Middletown" studies conducted by the Lynds in the 1920s and 1930s, a significant portion of his research has used that site as a database. In non-U.S. settings, Tamney is a recognized authority on the sociology of Islam in Indonesia, the most populous Islamic country. He has also written on Confucianism, Taoism, and Buddhism in East Asia generally and in Singapore specifically. Tamney has traveled extensively in Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia. He was a member of the faculty of the University of Singapore from 1968 to 1971, prior to coming to his present position. He was chair of the Sociology Department at Marquette University from 1963 to 1967.

Especially after working in Singapore, Tamney has used modernization theory to understand religious change. In The Struggle over Singapore's Soul: Western Modernization and Asian Culture (de Gruyter 1996), Tamney describes the conflict among a capitalist dominant ideology, the state's "Asian" civil morality, and the response of oppositional groups espousing a counter-culture that includes religious and humanist values. Tamney's work emphasizes the continual need for religion to change, as society changes, to remain popular.

—William H. Swatos, Jr .

Tamney's hostility to conservative Christianity is likely because Christianity does not see itself as being merely one among many equally legitimate paths to the one "primordial truth."

I don't know anything about Tamney, but he sure sounds like a New Ager to me....possibly even a "Traditionalist" New Ager who embraces the Perennialist Philosophy.

I will do a little more digging around to see what I can come up with.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"Tamney's work emphasizes the continual need for religion to change, as society changes, to remain popular."

this views "religion" as a social institution, and ignores whether it is true or false. Even Christianity and the churches have become social institutions, and this is wrong, it is an outpost of the Kingdom of Heaven not of any kingdom or society on this earth.

religion of any category is apparently valued by this guy as a mere means of making things run smoothly, this is called "civil religion." While Christianity teaches values that do make righteous society work, it is also outside of and potentially hostile to that society insofar as the society is not righteous.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

what this writer complains of, and refutes using Scripture and The Fathers, is
also pretty well established in evangelicalism. A must read for everyone.

paul said...

I was just wondering; if the USA is guilty of killing by way of abortion, and it obviously is, then what about China, India, Russia, France, Germany, Brazil, Japan, Phillippeans, Canada, Egypt, Sudan, and South Africa, for instance?
I'm just saying, regarding the "America is Babylon" scenario, it's easy to point that finger at us, since it's a huge open debate here, and a hot-button issue.
What about all the places where they just don't talk about it?
Just sayin'.

Anonymous said...

Because America is the world's melting pot, like a biblical picture of the whole world. And because it soared highest, it's fall will be lowest.
I am not an I hate America proponent. I love my country. Reminds me of Ezekiel 23 where God draws a comparison to hold accountable and one even more so.
Heart-breaking....and, I believe, prophetic.

All the nations are a drop in the bucket according to God. No one will be left standing when He opens the books.

Only who (and what) is of Christ Jesus will stand in that day.

Anonymous said...

Most of those other nations have seen the great American Beast rise up from the sea. We are the powerful new kid on the block so to speak! Who can make war with the beast! In a big way we are idolized by most of the nation's of this world, yet hated by many also. There are no perfect nations. Israel is in rebellion. Which nation has no sin? Unfortunately I believe our sins surpass all other nations. We have gone from a nation, to a large degree anyway, that at one time feared God. Now we seek to do away with Him. Hollywood is perhaps the greatest force on earth in casting a spell over the nations. We export filth, perversion, rebellion, violence, and porn globally. We are drug addicted, fat, entitled, hedonistic, materialistic, adulterous, animalistic, rebelious spoiled rotten children. We speak as if from the moral high ground, but are really speaking from death valley. Our political system, along with the UN, opposes the will of the Lord for the nations continually. There is almost no virtue remaining in this nation. There is only a remnant of the Lord's people. I think the Babylon spoken of in scripture is for the most part speaking of the USA. However the spirit of Babylon has leavened all the nations on earth.

I hope for the Lord's mercy upon us. I'm broken hearted for the lost.

Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus!

paul said...

How many abortions in India on any given day, I wonder.
Maybe the whole world is Mystery Babylon. Maybe the seven mountains are the seven continents?
How are we any worse than everywhere else?
To me, the only thing that sets America apart from the rest of the world, is Hollywood, and the worldwide
anti-christian power that it wields. is the Beverly Hills a set of seven?

Anonymous said...

We do seek to spread the 'Gay New World Order' as Servando calls it!

paul said...

Is that Servando Gonzales ?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...
notice USA has the most of them in one country, in addition to this list

an earlier version of the first list includes San Diego and Los Angeles as built on seven hills.

Anonymous said...

"There must have been good reasons for Cumbey to focus decades of her life on the topic."

Because she's catholic? Why can't we see her debut EWTN interview, highly suspicious, as well as her love of the Judas posters here and her emphasis on J. Solono, with still no book. She and Iserbyt (RC) are old, when I am old I will not be working like a robot on the same-old-same-old. Constance has good reason to be angry with God.

Anonymous said...

---I will be in a death camp probably or dead or KNITTING.

Anonymous said...

"kkk, catholic baiter, distractor, militant leftist, atheist, nitwit"

All name calling all, all ad hominem attacks, all lacking any substance or valuable rebuttal. I'm so shocked, it's Constance's blog, I was so expecting excellence, Oh Wait, that was in 2014. I get it now. I woke up.

Anonymous said...

9:29 PM
Obviously this blog is not the place for you.
That was unnecessary roughness that misses what she has done (and is still doing) by miles.
It is you who is angry.

Anonymous said...

Very interesting history of the Phoenix bird. Was not aware of that. Here's some more history from Cuttingedge on the occult aspects:

Americans are looking for a savior that is not the Savior-Jesus. It is easy for people to think a new President or politician is going to save the day. The reality is they are imperfect men and some much less perfect than others under the control of a power system of interests that would make it hard even for a good man ( or woman now) to operate in the interests of the nation.

Too much power has been given to the Presidency ( or rather taken by it) with each successive President. As we know, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Unless the underlying system were to change, America will end up on the garbage heap of history with all he other civilizations that became too proud and finally decadent. Usually, at the end of great empires, Homosexuality becomes rampant and the decline starts.

To address Paul's question,whether or not America is Mystery Babylon;

America, is a melting pot and the UN on the soil of the East River represents the worst of the mixing of religions ethnos, and national boundaries. I'm not sure that America is mystery Babylon or the catalyst for mystery Babylon, some kind of world governmental system which will spring out of the UN.

The UN has it's headquarters in NY, but it's judicial branch at the Hague and it's other branch in Geneva. We know the beginnings of it are theosophist. The forth beast of Daniel is iron and clay, so something that really doesn't hold together well. They combine to one another in the seed of men but do not adhere could be a reference to the Nephilim that Jesus spoke of when he said it would be like the days of Noah.

Much is being done scientifically to mix DNA and to make some kind of "huberman" . With advanced technologies there are many efforts of defy death. Just yesterday WND had an article about advanced technologies to prolong life of the elite. Not being dogmatic here, but Mystery Babylon is the worst of all kinds of mixing religions, genes, nations in an effort to defy death and be gods.

NYC is the headquarters of UN and also one of the major stock exchanges in the world, but I'm not sure it fits all the description of Revelations Mystery Babylon. It certainly has a lot of characteristics. When we saw the Towers hit which were the World Trade towers, the world was in shock. A precursor to the destruction of Mystery Babylon?
We've exported a lot of junk to other nations like our Hollywood culture, the music industry, the dollar with either the phoenix bird or the eagle, not sure?? Because we have such a strong Judeo-Christian heritage we could have been a light in the world, and in the past I think we were, but now I'm not so sure. Kim Kardashian as a symbol of womanhood does not really reflect our biblical values. We sell our arms all over to rogue nations and oddly enough that has brought us ISIS- and occult goddess . I don't know if we are or not but there's a lot of bad things that we are doing as a nation.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said... I doubt the interview contained much more than is detailed here.

"Because she's catholic? Why can't we see her debut EWTN interview, highly suspicious, as well as her love of the Judas posters here and her emphasis on J. Solono, with still no book. She and Iserbyt (RC) are old, when I am old I will not be working like a robot on the same-old-same-old. Constance has good reason to be angry with God."

my my, one of these holier than the pagan RC harlot church types thinks anyone can have reason to be mad at God. talk about viewing Him as a genie to help you out!

Solana was a natural byproduct of believing the easy to believe mistake that the antichrist will arise out of a united Europe. HOWEVER he is and is surrounded by creepy enough stuff to take seriously as trouble, or indicative of trouble (like a fin in the water is indicative of a shark).

Anonymous said...

Ms Erikson, (re: your 1:09 AM post)

regardless of what the poster you are addressing has written, your suggestion to view God as a genie is blasphemous, disgusting and demonic. I suggest you seek out help quickly so whatever you have picked up and is in residencw can be exorcised quickly and you can receive healing from your personality disorder (bpd/ npd/ hpd, or a mixturef these?).

Anonymous said...

Anon. 1:26pm,

Christine was not suggesting to view God as a genie, she was suggesting that the person she is responding to was saying that. If you cannot make such simple and easy distinctions, then you should probably refrain from commenting anywhere.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 1:26

I suggest you read that again. I said "talk about viewing God," etc. which is obviously about anon 9:29 having apparently that attitude since that anon said Constance had reason to be mad at God, and this means the anon thinks in these blasphemous terms, and

I suspect this anon is one of my detractors as well at least one of whom has accused me of having this attitude to God, like if I'm not pro Hislop or whatever their position is, then I can't be with Jesus. If you and they have such trouble understanding things, or else don't care and want an opportunity to accuse, maybe you need an exorcism.

Susanna said...


I found a link to select pages of Tamney's book - the one in which he mentions you on pages 113-114 for which I have provided a link below!

I think his negative attitudes about Christianity and positive attitudes about non-Judeo-Christian religions are interesting given his affiliation with the Catholic University of America, etc.!!!

The Resilience of Christianity in the Modern World

Joseph B. Tamney

It doesn't appear that he even read all of your book!!!! I have.

Susanna said...


Joseph Tamney was mistaken when he took issue with your association of the New Age Movement with Nazism.

Unless they are ignorant of the scope of the New Age Movement themselves, people like Tamney apparently think that if they focus only on the "left wing" pagan elements of the New Age Movement, that people might not notice the more dangerous and sinister "right wing" pagan elements of the New Age Movement - like those currently being peddled by Alexander Dugin in Russia.

People who do notice are often ridiculed and labeled as "conspiracy theorists."

One of the more sinister characters of the "right wing" of New Age Movement was Julius Evola who was associated with the pagan gnostic "Traditionalist School" co-founded by Rene Guenon, Frithjof Schuon and Ananda Coomaraswamy.

The "Traditionalist School" can be traced directly to Madame Blavatsky's Theosophical Society vis a vis Rene Guenon, a disciple of Papus who was a member of the Theosophical Society before leaving to found his own Martinist/Rosicrucian Order(s.
Papus' complaint with Blavatsky's Theosophical Society was that it emphasized the Eastern esoteric traditions at the expense of the Western esoteric traditions.

Evola was heavily involved in the occult and practiced black magic. Mark Sedgwick discusses Evola in his book AGAINST THE MODERN WORLD as does the late Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke in BLACK SUN (Chapter 3 - Julius Evola and the Kali Yuga.)

One of the people influenced by Evola and who was in personal contact with him and corresponded with him until his death in 1974 was none other than Mircea Eleade, who is the subject of this thread. During the 1930's, Eleade had ties to the far right wing Legionary of Archangel Michael ( a.k.a. Iron Guard )in Romania....a group inspired by both Rene Guenon and Julius Evola according to Mark Sedgwick.

Julius Evola had ties to both the fascist regime of Benito Musolini and the Nazi regime of Adolph Hitler. Evola hs been called an "occult fascist."

Maximine Julia Portaz - a.k.a. Savitri Devi - a.k.a. "Hitler's Priestess," was also among those influenced by Evola and claimed that Adolf Hitler was an avatar of the Hindu god Vishnu whose divine mission is to close Kali yuga and usher in the new Golden Age - a new period of (Aryan) peace prosperity and harmony.

Savitri Devi in turn influenced the Chilean diplomat Miguel Serrano.

Savitri Devi was regarded as the "missionary of Aryan Paganism" and it is thanks to neo-Nazi publishers right here in the United States that her writings became prominent in neo-Nazi circles. Devi was a staunch advocate of "Deep Ecology" and animal rights. When Savitri Devi died, she was cremated and her ashes were placed in Virginia beside those of American neo-Nazi George Lincoln Rockwell.

Last but not least, another individual who has been influenced by Evola is the Russian "philosopher" and "Putin brain" Alexander Dugin.

By Alexander Dugin

Susanna said...

The following is from JULIUS EVOLA AND RUSSIAN TRADITIONALISM by Alexander Dugin.

3) Rome and Third Rome

One particular layer of Evola's thoughts is felt by the Russians to be of imminent and extremeimportance: his praise for the Imperial Ideal.
Rome represents the focal point of Evola's worldview.
This sacred living power which had manifested itself all across the Empire was to Evola the veryessence of the West's traditional heritage. To Evola, the ruins of Nero's palace and of Roman buildings
were like a direct testament to a physical, organic sanctity whose integrity and continuity had been
shattered by the Kafkaesque "castle" of the Catholic Vatican Guelph. [NOTE: For those not familiar
with Kafka's work, this is a reference to his book entitled "the Castle," which is about a man who takes
what should be a relatively simple job in a distant place surveying the land of a local noble, but who is
unable to begin -- much less complete -- his job owing to the opposition from the bureaucracy of his
own employer (whom he never meets in-person and only through a proxy or a proxy of a proxy) and
who is further frustrated by the fact that the Count's huge, oppressive castle is always visible from any
part of the town but that he can never actually go there to begin his task. Obviously this is a
metaphorical indictment against the overall judeo-christian system and how it relates to seemingly
unattainable salvation. Similarly, Guelph refers to a German/Italian coalition of the Middle Ages that
supported the royal house of Guelph against the Imperial German Ghibelline dynasty that was hostile
to the Pope and to Catholicism.] His Ghibelline train of thought was clear: Imperium against Church,
Rome against the Vatican, the immenent and organic sacrality against the devotational and sentimental
abstractions of faith, implicitly dualist and Phariseean.
But a similar line of thought is seemingly naturally felt by the Russians, whose historical destiny has
always been profoundly tied to that of Imperium. This notion was dogmatically rooted in the Orthodox
Concept of staret [NOTE: the starets were spiritual advisers, but not priests: Rasputin could be
considered one of these] philosophy - "Moscow: the Third Rome." It should be noted that the "first
Rome" in this cyclic orthodox interpretation was not Christian Rome, but rather Imperial Rome,
because the second Rome (or the "new Rome") was Constantinople, the capital of the Christian
Empire. Thus the same idea of "Rome" held by the Orthodox Russians corresponds to the
understanding of sacrality like the importance of that which is Sacred and such as the necessary and
inseparable “symphony” between the spiritual authority and the temporal realm. For traditional
orthodoxy, the catholic separation between the King and the Pope is simply unimaginable and close to
blasphemy, and this very concept is actually called the “Latin heresy.”
Again, one can see the perfect convergence between Evola's dogma and the commonplace mindset of
Russian conservative thought. And still again, the clear spiritual exaltation of Imperium in Evola's
books is of inestimable value to the Russians in terms of what they view as their true and traditional
identity. The "symphonic imperialism" of the Orthodox Russians easily brings to mind Julius Evola's
concept of "pagan imperialism," or rather "Ghibelline imperialism." more...

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Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...


while the mystique of imperium and nation and whatnot is an issue anywhere, and in Evola's mind - and that of the nominal Christian promoter of Christian civilization - are linked or the church is a mere carrier, preserver, uniter to accomplish
alleged national destiny,

Moscow as third rome came about after Constantinople fell, the torch was passed to Moscow, after Rome fell away into schism and semi heresy, and Constantinople fell to the Turks. That's all that is. nothing evolaish in itself.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

" the catholic separation between the King and the Pope is simply unimaginable and close to
blasphemy, and this very concept is actually called the “Latin heresy.”"

there was no such separation for a long time until it was forced by circumstances. the Isadorean Decretals, and Donation of Constantine both forgeries were used to make no separation thinkable and the church supreme. The symphony of Orthodoxy is totally different, two realms that work together but different.

Susanna said...

Esoteric Hitlerist:

An Interview With Miguel Serrano

.....Among Mr. Serrano's many remarkable friends were the Catharist scholar Rene Nelli, professor at the University of Toulouse, and the notorious poet Ezra Pound. Serrano sponsored the only monument in the world dedicated to Pound, located in Medinaceli, Spain........

Susanna said...


My objective was not to legitimize or defend that lunatic Dugin's (or Evola's) point of view. It was to show just how WRONG Joseph B. Tamney was in criticising Constance for tying the New Age Movement to Nazism.

That said, it should be pointed out that Evola was not advocating the reestablishment of a Christian "Third Rome." He was advocating the reestablishment of a PAGAN THIRD ROME.

The kind of Russian Orthodox Church Dugin would like to see is a paganized gnostic "Russian Orthodox" Church. Up to this point, Sufism/Islam has been the chief exoteric embodiment of the pagan/gnostic Traditionalist School. Dugin wants the Russian Orthodox Church to become the exoteric embodiment of the Traditionalist School and he wants to combine it with his "neo-Eurasianist" ideology.

See Mark Sedgwick's book AGAINST THE MODERN WORLD.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...


I didn't think for a minute you were trying to legitimize him, I just wanted to clarify for other readers here that Third Rome isn't his invention. There is a
strand (denounced by the ROCOR Holy Synod while in exile) of thought called sophiology or sopianism, which properly would mean study of wisdom but refers to
wisdom as some female almost fourth person of The Holy Trinity and has its roots
in the speculations of Vladimir Soloviev.

Susanna said...


Re: I just wanted to clarify for other readers here that Third Rome isn't his invention.

That is true enough. Even Stalin tried to make use of the "MOSCOW THIRD ROME" idea.

Sophiology is a philosophy having to do with wisdom, but there is a corrupted version that sees "Sophia" as a deity in her own right. Sophia had a major role in almost every sect of Gnostic Christianity.

Sophianism has been condemned as heretical by the Patriarch of Moscow.

You are right about Vladimir Soloviev.

Susanna said...

P.S. Christine,

Re: There is a strand (denounced by the ROCOR Holy Synod while in exile) of thought called sophiology or sopianism, which properly would mean study of wisdom but refers to wisdom as some female almost fourth person of The Holy Trinity and has its roots in the speculations of Vladimir Soloviev.

There was also a Catholic heretic from Canada whose alleged "private revelations" resulted in her trying to portray Mary as a "fourth person" in the Godhead.

Her name was Marie-Paul Guigere and she claimed to be the reincarnation of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Looking at the teachings of this lunatic fringe heretic who called herself "Catholic" until she was excommunicated, one can understand how some Protestants and other non-Catholic Christians unfamiliar with the authentic teachings of Roman Catholicism might be misled into thinking that Catholics worship Mary.

Army of Mary cast out
September 12, 2007

Calling it a “very grave situation,” the Vatican has excommunicated members of a controversial Quebec Catholic movement, the Army of Mary, for their heretical beliefs that derive from the writings of Marie-Paule Giguère, an 86-year-old mystic who claims to be a reincarnation of the Virgin Mary.

In a judgment delivered to the group on Monday, and announced yesterday, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith ruled that the ordinations of six priests in the Army of Mary this past June were illegitimate, because they were performed by a priest rather than a bishop. As a result, at least one recent marriage, performed by one of these new priests, is now regarded by the Vatican as null.

Further, the ruling says that anyone who participates in the Army of Mary, which has centres in Quebec City and Lac-Etchemin, Que., is in schism with the Catholic Church, and therefore automatically excommunicated.

The group has been in conflict with the Vatican for at least 20 years — its members claim to be fully Catholic, but with extra beliefs — and so it received the ruling with equanimity, calling it the “will of God.”...............


Susanna said...


........In her writings, Mme. Giguère described visions and messages she received from God, explaining that Mary, the mother of Jesus, is fully divine, and also that, as her modern incarnation, so is Mme. Giguère. Rather than the traditional Catholic Trinity — in which God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are each fully divine and part of a three-part deity — the Army of Mary now speaks of a “quinternity,” including Mary and Mme. Giguère.

This reverence of the charismatic Mme. Giguère, and the inevitable comparisons to Joan of Arc and Teresa of Avila, helped it to spread beyond Quebec, with missions across Canada and in France, the United States, Austria, Jamaica and Italy. At one time it claimed 20,000 members, but that number is now far lower, although Fr. Roy would not estimate.....

.....“There was always this suspicion that was around them, that they were doing something on the side, you know, teaching other things. It was always hard to tie them down, and I just tried to get them to come out and admit things,” said Terrence Prendergast, Archbishop of Ottawa, who was appointed in 2003 by Pope John Paul II to be a mediator in the dispute.

“They would say that they would not subscribe to some of the limitations that we would put on the creed.

“They would say we hold everything that the Roman Catholic Church teaches, and then some things that the Church is not yet ready for,” he said.

Yesterday, he criticized the belief that God has somehow willed their excommunication, which he called “victim theology.” entire article...

Army of Mary excommunicated by the Vatican

The reason I am taking the time to post this information about the "Army of Mary" is because this cult is still active. It claims to be morphing from the "Church of Peter" to the "Church of John."

This is a disturbing development because the "Johannites" were one of the major gnostic sects that were revived in 1804 by the heretical French priest Bernard-Raymond Fabré-Palaprat. It was inspired by the sect led by Simon Magus that worshipped John the Baptist as the "Messiah" instead of Christ whom they claimed was an "imposter."

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"The movement believes that its 94-year-old founder, Marie Paule Giguère, is the reincarnation of the Virgin Mary,[3] in open contrast not only with the Catholic belief that reincarnation does not exist, but more specifically that Mary was assumed soul and body into heaven by God, and therefore Mary's soul is not separate from her body, so that if she were to appear, it would have to be as herself, not as a reincarnation."

well well, looks like "tradition" would keep you from serious error of believing reincarnation and of listening to a demon in this case at least, eh, RC bashers?;_ylt=A0SO8odbaKVWLMIACaGl87UF;_ylc=X1MDOTU4MTA0NjkEX3IDMgRmcgNocC1kZGMtYmQEZ3ByaWQDS2lWbmhjdEZSb1NLWFd0YXB2eTFsQQRuX3JzbHQDMARuX3N1Z2cDMQRvcmlnaW4Dc2VhcmNoLnlhaG9vLmNvbQRwb3MDMARwcXN0cgMEcHFzdHJsAwRxc3RybAMyMARxdWVyeQNBcm15IG9mIE1hcnkgR2lndWVyZQR0X3N0bXADMTQ1MzY4MTE5MA--?p=Army+of+Mary+Giguere&fr=hp-ddc-bd&fr2=sb-top-search&type=bl-bir-6YN03__alt__ddc_dsssyc_bd_com&iscqry=

photo of her shows the classic thousand yard sorcerer's stare. the effect is mitigated in later photos by the glasses. a photo of her at a ceremony shows her very inappropriately carrying a bishop's crozier of sorts. Supposedly the reincarnation is of "the immaculate" God created and put in Mary and later put in this cult leader so the absurdity of hearing from Mary and hearing she is her reincarnation was explained, perhaps she raised the question. Visions and whatnot since 12. she would hear an "inner voice" something talking to her in her body, known as "locutions." this abnormal phenomenon is not like anything described in the Bible and regardless of lack of obvious heresy I don't think that it should be accepted. unfortunately, RC has accepted some mystics who had locutions. The presence of this should throw everything on hold. RC holds that these are all private revelations, not on a par with Scripture, you do not have to believe them, the most RC says is they are worthy of belief. Some things taught by such people, however, though not exactly heretical in an obvious sense, have become part of RC daily life and some services, etc. this is what happens when a believer in such becomes a bishop, seminary teacher or pope.

This can be duplicated by a living person projecting into another so that they hear a voice in the stomach as bodily processes that produce grumbles and gurgles are hijacked to the purpose. Which means even if she was not part of a cult or her parents weren't, someone who was could have decided this girl was vulnerable and workable.

Susanna said...

Christine 7:70 PM

Re: well well, looks like "tradition" would keep you from serious error of believing reincarnation and of listening to a demon in this case at least, eh, RC bashers?



Anonymous said...

Hebrews 9:27 is authoritative on all Christians and rules out reincarnation (at least, until Jesus returns with his faithful!)

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Anonymous said...

9:29 PM
Obviously this blog is not the place for you.
That was unnecessary roughness that misses what she has done (and is still doing) by miles.
It is you who is angry.

9:58 PM

I don't feel angry. Are you Alex Jokes? Did Constance not get her 'big' break on EWTN? Yeah, I think so. Alnisky was clear on this issue.

Anonymous said...

very clear...4:35 ...hours days weeks sooner or later they sense it..

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Saturday Night Live had 'Church Lady'. Here at Constance's we have 'The Cult Ladies'.

RayB said...

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said @ 7:50 PM:

"This can be duplicated by a living person projecting into another so that they hear a voice in the stomach as bodily processes that produce grumbles and gurgles are hijacked to the purpose. Which means even if she was not part of a cult or her parents weren't, someone who was could have decided this girl was vulnerable and workable."

Maybe "Susanna" can use her "traditions" to help us interpret this gem from "Justina"?

LOL !!!

Anonymous said...

Lol Ray

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

SNL is looking for you Christine + Susanna

Anonymous said...

MCErikson is creepy.

She could get a contract for her own show about paranormal religioddities.

Anonymous said...

Maybe in the good old US of A, Anon 10:25 AM, in most Western countries she'd get a padded cell (Resident seered conscience Vampire free), 3 square meals a day, regular meds and therapy, and a straight jacket!

Anonymous said...

Biblical Prophecy Reveals Pope's True Intentions Concerning the Jews

President Mahmoud Abbas. The man Pope Francis called "a man of faith and an angel of peace"

"Every drop of blood that has been spilled in Jerusalem is Holy blood as long as it was for Allah". Mahmoud Abbas

Anonymous said...


by Ellen Carmichael May 17, 2015

Anonymous said...

Main Stream Media Failure: Pope did NOT call Mahmoud Abbas an ‘Angel of Peace

*UPDATE*, with double-down

By: J. E. Dyer
Published: May 17th, 2015

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...
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Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

re: "repenting of...your claims...[Eccl. 12:6] refers to the chakra, and knowledge that chakras are a doctrine of devils!" would prevent psychic attack - no it wouldn't. believing subtle galgal exist does not open one to psychic attack, manipulating galgal might. LOOKS LIKE YOU FLUNK SPIRITUAL WARFARE 101 TOO.

They can functions as demonic doorways. they should NEVER be opened. some may be artificial instead of inherent. your brain can be a demonic doorway if misused also, that doesn't prove that believing the brain exists is bad.

astral projection DOES NOT PROVE reincarnation, merely that something exists aside from the body and would continue after death, same as Bible says, duh.

nibiru Planet X (now Planet 9) DOES NOT SUPPORT ANNUNAKI, ALIENS CREATING US, SITCHIN LIES ABOUT NONEXISTENT TABLETS AND MISTRANSLATIONS OF SUMERIAN OR ANYTHING ELSE, NOR DOES IT EXPLAIN THE FLOOD OR EXODUS DISASTERS LOCALIZED TO EGYPT. Planet X as in 10 was noted by Harrington in the early 1980s to pull DOWN on Neptune and Uranus, so orbits below and above never through the ecliptic. Not that big a deal.

“This praying mantis creature's civilization communicates difficult concepts
via the use of symbols that radiate emotion. ...The emotional aspect is relayed
via carrier waves that resemble sound waves, but are not part of the human
sound spectrum. These waves can be felt, but not heard.” - Linda Porter, Human Abductee, 1963, Covina, California SOUNDS LIKE LOCUTIONS TO ME. could also be infrasound.

non sequiturs.

chakras/galgalim DO NOT SUPPORT NEW AGE AND ARE NOT "DOCTRINE" BUT SUBTLE ANATOMY. they have no bearing on any doctrine they are manipulated in relation to.;_ylt=AwrSbmqRJ6BWbT8Atjal87UF;_ylu=X3oDMTEybGlqdjVyBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjExNTlfMQRzZWMDc2M- This is the old Nemesis theory. more support for it.

paul said...

Okey the superstitious wild eyed hippie Christine is back after posing as the rational orthodox Christine for a while.

" They can functions as demonic doorways. they should NEVER be opened. some may be artificial instead of inherent. your brain can be a demonic doorway if misused also, that doesn't prove that believing the brain exists is bad."

Say what?
Says who Christine? Says who?
Says you, you nutcase.

paul said...

What do you know about spiritual warfare?
Don't answer that.
You seem to be losing the spiritual battle so please don't hand out advice on "Spiritual Warfare 101", which doesn't
exist, but is something that you made up to try to bolster your own image.
Shut up Christine.
People who entertain demons are in no position to give spiritual advice.

Anonymous said...

She learns her creepy stuff from the father of lies cuz it sure isn't from the Holy Spirit.

Anonymous said...

What could or would Chritine ever possibly know about anything subtle?
She tries to jackhammer her doctrines here but I notice they don't "take" with the fellow bloggers. Maybe in her lil circle (population 1) it does........

Constance Cumbey said...

Dear KC

Regarding the second post: I saw that General Boykin evidently played a role. I watched the video -- they looked like fine sincere Christians. I'm fearful that using missionaries and humanitarian workers as spies might lead to the endangerment of both. I have archived the article.


Constance Cumbey said...


Interesting article with much to digest. Thank you.


Constance Cumbey said...

To all posting on Teilhard de Chardin:

Chardin was practically canonized in apostate Catholic, New Age, Theosophical, and many Protestant circles. As early as 1976 Protestant Word Book published Makers of the Modern Theological Mind series released a volume on him: Makers of the Modern Theological Mind - TEILHARD DE CHARDIN. It was written by Doran McCarty and edited by Bob Patterson. Written by a Baptist professor, it had a very flattering treatment of Teilhard. Teilhard was adored by the European occultists, including but not limited to the Bollingen/Eranos crowd of Oga Froebe Kapteyn and Alice Ann Bailey.


Constance Cumbey said...

To 2:17 re hand implants -- a real telling and disturbing wake up call regarding the signs of the times. Is it coming on us rapidly as the prophesied snare/temptation that would come over all the world?

I have heard much lately about how Sweden is trying to lead the way on a total cashless society.


Constance Cumbey said...

To 11:18

Re Rev. Wright speaking at Chicago Catholic Church and the Maya Angelou series. For the record, Maya Angelou also was a documented New Age activist and the New Agers were actively bragging about her when I discovered the existence of that Movement in 1981. She was given as an example of New Age people and writers in Mark Satin's NEW AGE POLITICS, 2d Edition (1979 - Dell)


Constance Cumbey said...

To 11:24

I thought your post was unfair to Susanna. What specific statement by Susanna or what specific catechism are you referencing?


paul said...

On this day:

Anonymous said...

We're is 11:24


Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:18 A.M.

Re: We're(sic) is 11:24


Fifteenth from the top


Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

Jonah In The Days Of Noah

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Constance is asking about "What makes us think Susanna's would not fall for it, she is a mere mortal, even if the catechisms claim that Jesus came to make her a god, she is only human."
this is 2 Peter 1:4, participation in the divine nature

this would relate to theosis or divinization becoming back in the image of God we lost in the Fall, regeneration, becoming a god by grace not by nature infused with God like something that has soaked up water but remains itself and not water but is now being water logged somewhat more watery.

Dan Bryan said...

Kazakhstan hopes to host four-way Ukraine talks this month

I believe we should keep an eye on what is happening in Astana.
For such a backward and poor country, somebody has poured allot of money building this place.

RayB said...

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said ...

"this would relate to theosis or divinization becoming back in the image of God we lost in the Fall, regeneration, becoming a god by grace not by nature infused with God like something that has soaked up water but remains itself and not water but is now being water logged somewhat more watery."

Another gem from our resident anti-Protestant, pro-Catholic flatterer. Susanna has to be thinking "with friends like these, who needs enemies?"

Dan Bryan said...

Constance Cumbey said... To 11:24
I thought your post was unfair to Susanna. What specific statement by Susanna or what specific catechism are you referencing?

Dear Constance,
Without additional comment, I believe 11:24 was referring to this portion of the catechism which can be read in context here:

460 The Word became flesh to make us "partakers of the divine nature":78 "For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God."79 "For the Son of God became man so that we might become God."80 "The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods."81

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...


do you actually read the Bible or just books that tell you what to think about it? 2 Peter 1:2-4 "...PARTAKERS OF THE DIVINE NATURE...."

RayB said...

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said to RayB:

"do you actually read the Bible or just books that tell you what to think about it? 2 Peter 1:2-4 "...PARTAKERS OF THE DIVINE NATURE...."


Please direct me to the passages of the Bible to support your following post ...

"This can be duplicated by a living person projecting into another so that they hear a voice in the stomach as bodily processes that produce grumbles and gurgles are hijacked to the purpose. Which means even if she was not part of a cult or her parents weren't, someone who was could have decided this girl was vulnerable and workable."

... or ... better yet ... please direct me to the "book" in which you learned such Occult nonsense.

RayB said...

Dan Bryan said @ 2:05 PM ...

"460 The Word became flesh to make us "partakers of the divine nature":78 "For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God."79 "For the Son of God became man so that we might become God."80 "The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods."81"

Very interesting post Dan. This sounds very much like the heretical teachings of Mormonism in which they believe they will become “gods” as well. The RCC does teach, of course, that their man-made "wafer" is magically transformed by the priest into the actual, divine body and blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. When they partake in their communion, they believe they are actually eating Deity. They also condemn any person that denies their position, as in the following:

"If anyone denies that in the sacrament of the most Holy Eucharist (communion wafer) are contained truly, really and substantially the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ, but says that He is in it only as a sign, or figure or force, let him be anathema." (An exhausted definition of "Anathema" = To be damned and put to death) p.79, Canon 1, Council of Trent.

By the way, the Council of Trent enumerates numerous "anathemas" regarding "heretic" Bible believers (i.e. true Protestants). The Council of Trent has NEVER been rescinded, and was further endorsed by Vatican II. Like the Chameleon that Rome is, Rome has changed its tactics and outward appearance, but its ultimate stated goal of ruling the world (both religious & politically) has never diminished.

Anonymous said...

“Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.” 2Peter 1:4 KJV


I have said, You are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. Psalms 82:6 KJV


Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? John 10:34 KJV

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...


I didn't learn that "occult nonsense" from a book, it was done to me. I told the person to never do this again. It is identical to what some visionaries of RC call "locutions" where a voice is not heard in the mind or ears but in one's body.
There is no biblical precedent for this being done by God. neither is it something I have heard EO saints ever experience. It is similar to what the Bible condemns when the voice comes out of the ground or somewhere, sometimes translated ventriloquism, and the word is ob or obe which is similar to the word obeah an African kind of witchcraft and may originate as a word from Egypt. the instrument the Obo has its name from its use in such rituals, deep vibrating tone.

It is my opinion that all things a mystic got by locution should be ignored, and frankly so should the mystic even if already canonized.

Ray, your biggest danger is that you think things are "occult nonsense" emphasis nonsense, as in, God prohibits it because it isn't real.

guess again.

God prohibits it BECAUSE IT IS REAL AND IT IS BAD. Just like theft and murder and adultery are prohibited because real and bad.]

Mormon doctrine may have evolved in some locations, to something more orthodox, but it does NOT say we can become infused with God's nature and energies like a rag become soaked with water or a plant that being watered grows better, but is still a plant and not water.

Mormonism teaches there is no real difference between the divine and human nature except by degree and by evolution. Adam became God, every perfected man can become a god and create his own solar system, and be god of his own planet, they think. This is downplayed even denied somewhat now, at least the Adam God theory is, but the overall picture is there.

This is NOT what RC or EO teaches.

This is NOT what 2 Peter 1:4 where he says that "you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust."

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Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...


how do you explain that Ignatius of Antioch, TAUGHT BY THE APOSTLE JOHN HIMSELF, taught the literal presence of Christ's Body and Blood in the Eucharist?

to the Smyrnaeans, referring to some heretics who deny the physicality of the Resurrection of Christ and in addition, "They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again."

Anonymous said...

To whom it may concern:

For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedek. Hebrews 7:17 KJV


And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. Genesis 14:18 KJV


John 6:53-70New King James Version (NKJV)

53 Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For My flesh is food indeed,[a] and My blood is drink indeed. 56 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. 58 This is the bread which came down from heaven—not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”

59 These things He said in the synagogue as He taught in Capernaum.

Many Disciples Turn Away

60 Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a hard saying; who can understand it?”

61 When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples complained about this, He said to them, “Does this offend you? 62 What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before? 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. 64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. 65 And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”

66 From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more. 67 Then Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you also want to go away?”

68 But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 Also we have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

70 Jesus answered them, “Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil?” John 6:53-70


26And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; THIS IS MY BODY. 27
And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; 28For THIS IS MY BLOOD of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Matthew 26:26-28 KJV


I have defended the Holy Eucharist FROM THE BIBLE ONLY! Now it is your turn to quote the exact passage IN THE BIBLE where it clearly and specifically states that Jesus didn't literally mean EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID. Jesus never indicated that He was speaking symbolically or metaphorically - not even when some of His followers began to leave Him.

If Jesus is God, and can turn water into wine, heal the sick, raise people from the dead ( i.e. Lazarus) and even rise from the dead Himself, why would he not be able to miraculously feed us with His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity under the appearance of bread and wine?

The whole point of being Almighty is that God can do anything He wants!

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