15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.This is clearly a product of those in the 2012 or "Ascension Networks." If this is headed where I strongly believe it is, there is no advantage either in this world or the world to come to avail oneself of the planned system:
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
6And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,And further, from Revelation 16:2, there were hideous sores as a last plague upon those who worshiped the beast and his image and/or took the mark:
7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
And the first went, and poured out his bowl upon the earth; and there fell foul and evil sores upon the men who had the mark of the beast, and upon them who worshiped his image.The New Age "global consciousness" networks are placing great stock in a coming new world economic system. Quoting from their first post of 2012, we read:
Choosing to understand what a global economic structure could be like, for example, is the first step to gaining access to more balanced, natural ways of relating on all levels and especially with the earth, nature and our true selves.
Even with the announcement about a new form of global currency, some of the comments are rightfully skeptical. We understand that.
My thanks to the anonymous blog poster who alerted me. The following is from the advocates of this system, Consciousness Media Network:
239 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 239 of 239"we are both physical and spiritual. We can communicate with each other on the material level."
Yes, when we are in the same room or on the telephone. Not otherwise. There is no physical/material mechanism for telepathy. I expect you are going to reply that physicists are narrow-minded brainwashed dogmatic clowns who need to consider new paradigms, but we know a lot about how to influence things at a distance: it takes forces,of which we have a very accurate description of four, none of which permits telepathy, and we know that any fifth force discovered will be too weak to do so. Even if you really do think that all our theories are total bunk, there are no reliable experiments which verify telepathy. Plenty of people believe in good faith that they are telepathic - I am not saying they are deliberate liars - but whenever such people submit to rigorous testing, they aren't. It happens again and again. People delude themselves. See Randi and CSICOP again.
Our spirits infuse our bodies, so there is no chance of telepathy using the human spirit. Demons in two people, perhaps, but I've never heard of it to the extent of facilitating conversations. Have you?
regarding scientists as brainwashed clowns and liars, NO, just you haven't figured everything out yet. one person put it this way, someday the last scientists would clamber over the last mountain range to find a bunch of theologians who have been waiting for them to catch up. Did you know that the guy in charge of the patent office in the late 1800s advocated closing that office, because everything had been invented or discovered that ever would be?
"Our spirits infuse our bodies, so there is no chance of telepathy using the human spirit. Demons in two people, perhaps, but I've never heard of it to the extent of facilitating conversations. Have you?"
That is a nonsequitur. As for conversations, yeah, I've had a bit, also learned to control my thoughts because a certain person could hear them. demons? I don't know. in one case it involved a fluidity of soul and breakdown of barriers, so that I and the other person were in what I call the psychic soup.
Now, once you are in that, the next step is the law of the jungle. The strongest mind and will rules. Not a good situation.
I shut it down fast, but not for that reason, for fear of all the crap (pardon me whoever anon) in my mind from various memories and sources giving a wrong impression of what I really thought or felt about things or being a bad influence. Under one situation I was in a real depleted state, and I could dialog with a dog. What he told me turned out to be absolutely correct, that he did indeed live at the place where I took him and was told he wasn't from there, but that the person who said this "doesn't know anything."
Very wierd. and not a state I want to be in.
Demons involved then? I don't know. on the occasions that this has happened I usually move into gospel preaching mentally, there is no inhibition from doing this.
Randi debunks well, but he doesn't know everything.
spirit and soul are fluid, and can move beyond the body, as anyone can tell you who has had the creepy experience of some clinically dead patient telling him about stuff in another room the patient shouldn't have known about. Kirlian photography is something you should look into, and to complain that this is merely an electrical phenomenon ignores, that what is recorded in the charged up and magnified state, matches to conditions in the body and mind.
Indeed, a famous psychic vampire fed by energy drain on her willing donor, and kirlian before and after photos showed aura damage that makes perfect sense, and also of a structure that explains how those over fed on themselves becomes vampiric. (this has nothing to do with animated corpses and such like.)
Now, back to issues like global currency.
I think unification under any but the returned King Jesus Christ is a bad idea. He can order whatever works right micromanaging even. We can't.
So a proper world government cooperation and referendum organization (destroy the UN and put something else in its place) should make sure, even if in some places it involves some internal changes within huge geography covering countries, that there are always sectors people adversely affected by policies in one can escape to, and that currencies are NOT global and single, and that there is insulation between economic systems, so that a failure in one will NOT impact any of the others substantially.
In other words, one of the proper purposes of global interaction, is to assure some buffers such as the globalists do NOT want to have in place.
"First you failed to give any names in a paragraph. Now you tell me I am asking the wrong question. It's all evasion. You made an assertion, that some advisors in the US government want to start World War 3, and you can't back up that assertion"
In the news is the statement, that some advisors are telling Obama to lighten up on Iran. Obviously the others are not. The ideas come from somewhere. I don't bother to keep track of which specific crook is in what job where it is a waste of time.
If you bothered to pay attention to information readily available, you would see what I say I am seeing. And since it is impossible that I could know about geopolitical alignments they don't know about, the only conclusion is that those who are NOT advising Obama to lighten up, and all in congress and candidates who propose to be tough on Iran, are up to no good.
stop being so gullible. no one seeks power without something wrong with them usually. anyone in govt. either elected or appointed can be assumed to be in regular human evil or corruption, to some extent, incl. all the legal sorts, maybe some illegal ones, or in some cases overt New Agers and occultists, unless proven otherwise. The only thing restraining them, is public opinion that might interfere with their careers, fame and glory, and pay and ever notice that revolving door between tehgulatory agency people and govt. people and military brass and the industries they are supposed to be independent of? retire from one they got a job in the other. occasionally it is vice versa. Rarely does this reflect an effort to use inside knowledge to protect the public interest.
again, google the subject. public records, not wild rumors, are out there. Sometimes you have to use the alternative media to find the links to the govt. records sites and such like respectable sources they are drawing on, but they are there.
Christine,
I don't need telling by a non-scientist that we scientists don't know everything. Why do you think we still do research?
Moreover it is not necessary to know everything in order to know some things. Like there is no possible physical mechanism for telepathy. Exactly as experiment has confirmed. Anybody can say "Randi doesn't know everything, scientists don't know everything". Such statements involve no effort and no skill. Getting trained in physics or illusionism and combining the two to create a protocol for testing people who claim to be able to talk remotely to their hamster is actually quite difficult. But whenever it has been done properly, nobody has ever passed the test. You are not different - please apply to Randi for testing if you really believe that you or your friend can do these things without breaking any of God's commands to believers. You sound very New Agey at times.
Is Christine a pseudoname for Joyce?
Anon said: "First you failed to give any names in a paragraph. Now you tell me I am asking the wrong question. It's all evasion. You made an assertion, that some advisors in the US government want to start World War 3, and you can't back up that assertion"
Christine replied: "In the news is the statement, that some advisors are telling Obama to lighten up on Iran. Obviously the others are not. The ideas come from somewhere. I don't bother to keep track of which specific crook is in what job where it is a waste of time."
Don't you realise how shifty you are being? You said that some advisors in the US government wanted to start World War 3, but you can't adduce any evidence for that and instead you are now talking about a war of *words* with one far smaller and less well equipped country, Iran. And your words would be "Yes, Mr Ahmedinejhad, whatever you say, Mr Ahmedinejad, please feel free to carry on building nukes to fire at Israel, and if you decide to close the Hormuz Strait then we shan't get in your way."
Nobody ever said the USA was perfect. (You certainly didn't.) That doesn't mean it can't be in the right over certain issues.
"Moreover it is not necessary to know everything in order to know some things. Like there is no possible physical mechanism for telepathy. "
by definition, telepathy is not physical. ergo, no need for a physical mechanism.
in my experience, these events are few, and uncomfortable, not something I cultivate quite the contrary, as I have said at least once, and another phenomenon, energy feed vampirism, I have experienced as fed on, from the neck chakra which is NOT in the neck but the lower head and jaw, high on the neck. Sudden wild pain, out of the blue, almost screamed, almost but not quite exactly like repressurization pain in a plane coming down. I won't go on a plane again. Accompanying odd action that suddenly made sense afterwards, and some questions and yep, I'd been fed off sudden, desperate depleted vampire.
It was a staggeringly real experience, and not like anything I had read of.
Some experiences cannot be reproduced reliably. Why should they be, since they are not part of normal day to day operation. The vampire at issue is a living human, who when operating outside his level of competence so to speak, will supplement. I taught him some ethics about it.
There are a lot of people in this subculture I might add, professionals and whatnot. Also some in the sanguinarian format, most of whom are into some satanic or wierdo chic, only a few really
need it, and they are probably drawing on energy through the blood. Quite creepy. People leading double lives.
I probably could talk to animals if I went to work on practicing the skill, I have no intention of doing so. It is too deranging to me, and I think it is irritating to the animals, but occasionally I have gotten some input from them, and my reaction shows the impression I had was correct.
What is far more interesting, is when they are able to make noises
that are clearly english words, pidgin, heavy animal accent, and totally make sense in context, like standing by the door and saying Me Out. or I wuv. I wan mor. One dog was studied who could make some seven statements, incl. barking oh dear oh dear when locked up. Some youtube videos of this are clearly fake, some are not so clearly fake, some are far more likely real than not.
I don't like psychic stuff. Too many problems, and my personal family history and the personal history of the people around me who have a bit of this about them, is such that I think it risks demonic involvement sooner or later.
"and instead you are now talking about a war of *words* with one far smaller and less well equipped country, Iran. "
EXCUSE ME?! have you read a single thing I said about their backup?
kindly tell me what "the BRIC nations" refers to and if you can't then shut up and start studying current events back to the 1990s.
Briefly any attack on Iran will bring Russia and China down on us automatically, and any serious attack on Pakistan will bring in China. These facts have leaked a bit into the western media. I notice stuff like this. you don't.
now get on google.
BRIC you will be informed is some informal trading agreement. Dig farther, you will probably find a reference to their holding some combined military exercizes back in the 1990s, which is when I first heard of them, or the second time I heard of them.
I repeat, an attack on Iran is an attack on Russia and China, and will be responded to in kind.
Are you aware that Russian warships are already moving in Middle Eastern waters to support Syria if need be, and are therefore in range to support Iran? or did you miss that bit that was in the regular news (of course, a blip you will miss if you yawn or go to the kitchen or the bathroom, this isn't the kind of stuff the news dwells on or gives any in depth analysis of).
How many of us are sure we have the power to resist the coming temptations? As I see reports from Barna Research about Christians giving in to cultural influences more and more, I wonder if we should start a conversation (perhaps on a new blog) about what true Christian conversion is and how rare it might be in today's world.
As 2 Thessalonians 2 comes into actuality, I realize we can no longer leave our spiritual welfare up to "professionals" any more than the populace could in Jesus' day.
Any responses?
I apologize anon. 11:24, for interrupting your thought...your concern is a good one, and one that I have had as well, but I must address Christine's bizarre commentary.
C:
I probably could talk to animals if I went to work on practicing the skill, I have no intention of doing so. It is too deranging to me, and I think it is irritating to the animals, but occasionally I have gotten some input from them, and my reaction shows the impression I had was correct.
This, for me, was the "last straw". I can no longer hold back. (I speak for myself, but I've a hunch quite a few more too.)
You have turned Constance's blog into "Christine's blog" and have insulted the intelligence of its readers far too many times, scattering fact with fiction and fancy and freakish meanderings. You have you own blog. Please keep your derangedness over there, and away from here.
I have learned much from the serious efforts to reply to your incoherency, but I no longer even read your posts, only the replies to them. In my opinion you are wasting everyone's time here. Other's may disagree, that's fine.
I feel better now. I feel better than James Brown. :^)
I am glad you feel better, as I have TWICE suggested before, let's get back to global currency and I have posted links regarding this.
I find it hard to leave either misinterpretations of what I have said, or very silly statements such as that bit about Iran's inadequacy, when the issue has been not their adequacy but the adequacy of Russia and China who will defend them, unanswered.
I am going to ignore answers on this thread, since it never stops.
global currency is a BAD idea no matter what hidden agenda is on,
it globalizes local problems
and supporters should be apprised of the global vulnerability it creates to counter the lovepeacebliss nonsense of the New Age in promoting it. globalization and world unification is a bad idea for the same reason, even without any evil hidden agenda, and I am surprised this is almost never talked about.
If there was no New Age conspiracy, such things would be bad in themselves because of the vulnerabilities they create.
When is someone going to try to fight all on that basis? the historical proof is out there, playing out in our faces in Europe and elsewhere. Why no anti globalization movement based on this reality, instead of sovereignty as if it were a thing in itself instead of a tool, or anti New Age which doesn't fly well with people who either don't believe it exists, or are affected by it?
I am not convinced of anyone in our presidential administration deliberately trying to start WW3
but I would say that if the president and his administration were to decide to attack Iran that they would at least be concerned about the possibility that Russia, China, North Korea, Pakistan, and Syria may become involved possibly igniting a world war.
Anon wrote: "and instead you are now talking about a war of *words* with one far smaller and less well equipped country, Iran. "
Christine replied: "EXCUSE ME?! have you read a single thing I said about their backup?...
any attack on Iran will bring Russia and China down on us automatically... These facts have leaked a bit into the western media. I notice stuff like this. you don't."
I notice it too, but have you never heard of bluff? Or of secret deals in the background that differ from what is in the public domain? Or of 11th hour horsetrading in which *both* sides shift their position? You badly need to read a primer on high-level diplomacy that includes historical examples.
But then again, Russia and China didn't approve of NATO doing airstrikes on Libya but they did not retaliate against us for it. Unless they are just saving revenge for a future time when they feel they can pull something off.
I've been waiting for Christine to drop the other shoe and she did. Yes, it has become the Christine Blog and she is very disruptive. It took a while for some of you to figure her out. I am dismayed by the lack of discernment of many on this blog. You bend over backwards to excuse the weird ideas of some people and keep exchanging comments with them when they should be ignored so they will go somewhere else.
Christine has serious problems (or is just here to distract you all with her convoluted ramblings.
This is Christine's main contender. I have learned from this thread that she shares an alarming number of views with New Agers, but I don't think it is helpful for posters to air their opinion of her, rather than of her views. She would not have written so much stuff as to dominate this thread in quantity had I not been pushing her; Constance has not asked us to stop; and how I spend my time is my own choice. If you think Christine has problems then the Christian thig to do is pray for her.
8:26
You hated Joyce when she was here
and now you can't let her go.
Christine:
Even if you do get back on topic, and you present "facts" that are disputable, will you even be able to consider that other viewpoints and sources of info might trump yours? Might you change your mind if shown to be incorrect? Or for you, are there no Black Swans?
Anon. 4:18,
Thank you for helping expose who Christine is, and what her views are (the two are not mutually exclusive as you would suggest). But haven't we all seen enough by now?
Yes we should pray for her. But Christianity also demands action, along the lines of "have nothing to do with them".
If you enjoy the back-and-forth arguing, she has a blog. Why not start up conversations over there? Those who wish can go over there and follow along.
I apologize for sounding like the "blog police" again. It's just my forum moderator background coming to the surface. Where I've moderated, a much tighter ship was run. I know Constance chooses not to do so, and is busy with lots of things, so I respect that. But I had to say something.
My question still remains: How much more do we need to see?
[Thu, Jan 12]
From Bjorn farmers site:
Wednesday, January 11, 2012
economic restructuring behind the scenes?
this links to my post "endgame" from dec 15.
Ben Fulford acknowledges today that the James Martinez video is indeed not a hoax. . Ben says:
“The 130-nation group that announced a new financial system through the Conscious Media Network on January 1st also contacted the White Dragon Society and said they will prove with action, and not words, that they represent extremely powerful interests. This writer initially, and apparently incorrectly, denounced the announcement as a psy-ops because this group was not identical to the 117 nation Monaco group previously reported about in this newsletter."
“All of these major factions will now have to reach an agreement. There will some serious horse-trading over the coming weeks before any sort of agreement is reached or public announcement is made but it appears a solution to the financial crisis is now on the horizon.” (1)
(1) “Benjamin Fulford: The Feds Have Sued for Peace and Detailed Settlement Negotiations Have Begun,” at http://the2012scenario.com/2012/01/benjamin-fulford-federal-reserve-faction-to-negotiate-with-white-dragon-society/
Posted by björn (farmer) at 10:44 AM
Nkosazana
Dear Anonymous 8:18 P.M.
I just want to let you know for the record that I am in agreement with you on the "telepathy" and "paranormal abilities" debate.
What you have been saying is pretty much what I have been taught.
Where such paranormal abilities are claimed, if there are no natural explanations and the possibility of fraud is excluded, then preternatural activity - whether angelic or demonic - is the likely explanation.
And since the holy angels do not illicitly intervene in human affairs, demons are the most likely culprits.
Anon at 11:24 PM said-
"How many of us are sure we have the power to resist the coming temptations? As I see reports from Barna Research about Christians giving in to cultural influences more and more, I wonder if we should start a conversation (perhaps on a new blog) about what true Christian conversion is and how rare it might be in today's world.
As 2 Thessalonians 2 comes into actuality, I realize we can no longer leave our spiritual welfare up to "professionals" any more than the populace could in Jesus' day.
Any responses?"
True Christian conversion is indeed very rare, anonymous. We cannot rely on pastors, in our churches or on tv, to "lead" us to the cross. I haven't set foot in a church in couple of months now. Every church I've gone to in my area doesn't preach from the bible. My son came out of "Sunday school" every time with a mouthful of candy and when asked what he learned, could NEVER tell me. He was in daycare, basically. No bibles are opened, the pulpit is given to new speakers every week, and it is.. unfortunately, a joke.
How is anyone to be saved in churches like these? To truly know what it is or what it means to surrender your life to Jesus, to truly follow him? To be filled with the Holy Spirit, to seek the Lord and HIS will for our lives? To read His word and apply it to our everyday?
It is very sad that it has come to this, but was foretold. We are living in the last days, and Jesus said this:
“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people." - Matthew 24:9-11
I keep trying to warn those in my family who believe in the pre-trib rapture (as I used to) that we MAY have to endure persecution in the near future, and no one wants to hear it. I am very aware of our brothers and sisters in Christ who are suffering around the world, for the Name. (visit persecution.com) Are we any "better", that we won't have to go through that? We must be aware of the persecution that will become more and more common to us as true believers in Christ. Its not easy to face that, but with our God, we will be able to endure- if we ask. If we TRUST.
I could go on and on but Anon I think you brought up a completely valid point worth talking about.
How do we know we won't be deceived? KNOWLEDGE and TRUST. Armed with the knowledge of God's word, which tells us what is to come. Trust in the Lord our God alone for all things. For salvation through Christ, for our every day needs, for the future- which is already written.
"You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved." -Matthew 10:22
Stand firm brothers and sisters in Christ! Love to you all.
Amen Susanna and Amen Jenna,
But Jenna, I wouldn't give up the
search for a true Christian house
of worship, because they still
do exist. I'd avoid huge buildings
and mega churches, and I'd keep
trying.
It's good to be in a body of believers
who don't need worldly trappings.
Let The Lords' Spirit be your guide
and the "still small voice" that is
the Spirit of Truth.
I think pride, with the accompanying tendency over time to become unteachable, either from other men or from the Lord, contributes greatly to one's being deceived.
"The pride of your heart has deceived you, you who live in the clefts of the rocks and make your home on the heights, you who say to yourself, 'Who can bring me down to the ground?'" -- Obadiah 1:3
I'm from London born and bred. I really love to hear recordings of the American old style preachers.
This one is just a few minutes:
'Memorise all of the scripture you can'.
http://tinyurl.com/85ored9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrV7c45TFrc&feature=channel_video_title
Jenna,
If you want a congregation where everybody is serious about Jesus, go to a land where the church suffers significant persecution, so that everybody either has or is willing to make genuine sacrifices for Him.
And if you aren't able to do that, don't worry, because persecution will come to YOUR land someday (true whichever land you live in!) and on a timescale of a few decades at most IMHO. One facet of preaching that will be important at that time is to explain that Jesus Christ is not abandoning His church, but purifying His bride.
Sorry for the short notice:
Tune into MY PERSPECTIVE internet radio in about 5 minutes. LEE PENN and I will be discussing what I call "variations on a theme" -- Catholic prophecies that could deceive the elect.
Constance
"You hated Joyce when she was here
and now you can't let her go."
You loved Joyce because she hated the Catholic Church.
8:00
Wrong AND wrong.
I loved Joyce because she spelled
out how Jesus is the King of the Jews
and the Messiah.
She didn't hate the Roman Catholic
Church and neither do I, although
she did point out wrong doctrine.
But you ran her off with incessant
accusations just like the one above.
You've got real problems, and I'd
write that right on the Dotted line.
Thanks for the response Paul, I know I do indeed want to steer clear from the mega churches.. But there aren't any of those where I live, its a smaller town. But still, I find issues in every church that I cannot ignore. I'm being discerning, not picky. When my husband and I take our unbelieving (but seeking) friend to church and even he is completely confused by what the messages are about.. That puts up a giant red flag.
I guess I just need prayer in this area. I really do want to belong to a local church. I will keep praying and seeking the Lord on this. Thanks for the encouragement brother :)
and Anon at 6:44 PM,
I completely agree with you, in lands where believers are persecuted, the gospel spreads faster and the underground church grows rapidly- praise to the Father! :) I know that for sure. Its happening all over the world as I type this.
It just seems that where I'm from (the US), it may do just the opposite when widespread persecution DOES come. I do think that's so very beautiful, what you said, that the Bridgegroom purifies His bride. He does and He is so GOOD. :)
Thanks again for the encouragement. Love to you in Christ Jesus!
Paul @ 2:04
Your posts are frequent, but apart from an occasional grudging word of approval toward one or two commenters here or there, never filled with anything but bile. You are frequently cruel toward people, and these are not the fruits of a Christian heart. If you were 19 years old it might be a little easier to understand but I believe you are a middle-aged man. Pathetic.
Paul:
You need to get a clue. There are many regulars on this blog who had a big problem with Joyce and are happy that she is no longer posting here.
Joyce's problem wasn't that she voiced disagreement with Catholic doctrine. Her problem was that she was obnoxious.
Anon 6:53
Thank you so much for the spiritual
lesson. I can't find anything bilious
that I've ever said, but I feel
certain that your wisdom as an
Anonymous poster is correct and
that I am, as you say, an immature
and a rotten person.
Keep firing away from the bushes,
and biting the horses heels so as to
try to make the rider fall over
backwards. It's very effective and
you never need to take any
responsibility from you covert
position.
Great ! Good luck to you !
Paul,
Self-examination isn't your strong suit. I've seen you hurt people a number of times at this blog.
And you claim to have had a conversion experience to Christ. Yeah right.
Again Anonymous,
Thank you so much for your
instructions and correction in
behavior. You always make mention
of correct Christian attitudes
and correct Christian thinking.
Thank you, thank you.
Paul,
It's all lip service, Paul. You have been corrected several times here over a long period of time, both harshly and gently, but you never change. You can do it through Jesus, but he can't do it for you. Your choice.
And again ANONYMOUS,
Thank you for sharing your
wisdom with me. What an honor.
Bless you bless you !
Well, I had not heard about this..My mother had a stroke on the 29th of December and died on Jan. 1, 2012. She would freak out about this video..She was the only one in my family that really tried to understand all of what I had been researching. I am not in shock however it does make me want to strt smoking again! Ha! We know that this is inevitable, through the prophecy that our Father in Heaven has given us. I will not be afraid, I have my peace, joy, and rest from my Lord and Saviour. My help comes from the Lord. I just pray that so many people will realize that there is a real spiritual battle going on, I think some christians dont even want to recognize it...Thank you for postiing this blog. Julie
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