"The National Intelligence Council is pleased to release Global Governance 2025: At a Critical Juncture. The report, produced in conjunction with the European Union's Institute for Security Studies, is a follow-on to the NIC's 2008 Global Trends 2025 study. Global Governance 2025 provides an informal contribution to an important international debate on the way forward for global, regional, and bilateral institutions and frameworks to meet emerging challenges such as climate change, resource management, international migration flows, and new technologies. While not policy prescriptive, the report shares a strong belief that global challenges will require global solutions. The report's primary purpose is to help policymakers in the US and abroad to chart a course for effective management of international problems. In addition, we hope that it will stimulate a broad-ranging debate among academic and nongovernmental experts.
Global Governance 2025 is innovative in many ways. It is the NIC's first unclassified report jointly developed and produced with a non-US body. The report is a culmination of a highly inclusive process that involved consultations with government officials, media representatives, and business, academic, NGO, and think tank leaders in Brazil, China, India, Japan, Russia, South Africa, and the UAE."
Keep hanging on to your seatbelts. The ride is getting VERY BUMPY!
Stay tuned!
CONSTANCE
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A WARNING ABOUT FR. JACK ASHCRAFT
Constance,
On the following website which apparently belongs to Fr. Ashcraft, http://www.apologia.spruz.com/, there is disturbing information. It is "Sponsored" by Our Lady of the Moon School of Wicca, Witchcraft, and Reiki (see link at the bottom of the page - warning, if you open this link, it is a very disturbing witchcraft site).
I can't imagine how Fr. Ashcraft could explain this one.
Just thought you would want to know.
The Tooth Fairy
What, exactly, is The Byzantine Catholic Church? Is it different than Roman Catholic? Is it Greek Catholic? I went to the site but was not able to find the Wiccan stuff or the Reiki.
Tooth Fairy is correct. Go to the bottom of the page and see the 'sponsored by' link. Pull it up and have a good read.
What does this stuff about Friar Jack Ashcraft have to do with the article posted by Constance?
Just looked up that website and sure enough here's the link at the bottom. Punch it up and take a look.
http://ourladyofthemoon.com/classes/
HK
Is that a sheepskin cassock that the
Fr. (Fakir?) is wearing ?
Dear Tooth Fairy,
I am looking at the site for the first time now. It appears to be anti-New Age. However, I opened the link below and I must confess I am DUMBFOUNDED. Fr. Ashcraft frequently posts here and I would like to hear from him on this. He told me he had some false websites put up by enemies after he broke with Bob Larson. Is this one? Or is OUR LADY OF THE MOON actually his sponsor? I would like to know.
Constance
I am even more DUMBFOUNDED that there are no comments whatsoever on the VERY HEAVY material I got out of my sick bed to post during the night on the EU-USA collaboration on a single world government/governance.
Constance
I've placed a telephone call to Fr. Ashcraft. Answering machine was on. I'm waiting to hear from him. The claimed "sponsoring site" is truly a work of EXTREME EVIL.
Constance
Stuff almost makes Barbara Marx Hubbard look nice and she isn't!
On a google search for "Our Lady of the Moon tradition" I found this one as well. I went to the site and this time it listed as a sponsor "Women's Empowerment Ministries." Something VERY WEIRD is going on here!
"Workers For Jesus Ministries Blog
... Workers For Jesus Ministries Created by Ev. Johan C Beetge. Sponsored By: Our Lady of the Moon Tradition, Report Website | Terms of Use | Privacy Policy ...
workersforjesus.spruz.com/blog.htm?a=&cat_id=51BFAAD5... - Cached"
The cached verson of the "Workers for Jesus Ministries Blog" has as sponsor "Our Lady of the Moon tradition."
I'm working hard to get to the bottom of this!
Constance
Well, I'm sure for the Obama administration there is a sense of urgency because of a good chance of a political change in Congress. I wonder, when and if, the Congress changes to a Republican majority, if there will still be a push towards global governance on our end. My hunch says yes.
Yesterday, the History Channel was running a series virtually all day about futuristic technologies. One episode of interest was that of mind control experiments conducted by our own government. I need to find a link to this because it speculated that using different aspects of the energy/light spectrum that it could be possible to direct messages into the brains of certain individuals. Sounds a lot like how Benjamin Creme has described how Maitreya is supposed to communicate with his followers.
Also of note, the latest episode of Law and Order Special victims Unit had a girl who had an RFID implanted in her arm so her parents/caretakers could track her. Later on in the episode the main detective characters met up with the RFID company spokesmen. He talked about the device on the girl was specifically more for animals, but that there would be future human applications. I just happened to catch it. Talk about revealing strategies and right in a very popular television series.
This reminds me of what somebody posted to the old PRODIGY site about 20 years ago,
"'THE GODDESS' is LUCIFER IN DRAG!"
Constance
Dear Constance-what a shocker to see the joint call for Global Governance accross the Atlantic-weird! South Africa mentioned as well. We are in for a bumpy ride, for sure.
Have you seen this?
Second Vatican state to be established in Jerusalem
Could this be????
Okay, let me answer this as I was as dumbfounded as some of your members here. I set up the website at spruz since they offer free hosting and support. Just a few days ago we looked at the site and found exactly what your readers did; the link to a wiccan organization. To say the least we were upset and angered by this. So I personally sent an issue ticket to Spruz support clarifying our position in a nutshell and asking for this "sponsor" (which we had no knowledge of and would NEVER agree to) to be removed. The following is the response we received in return:
"We have replied to ticket #91071Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:41 AMFrom: "Spruz Support" Add sender to ContactsTo: "tenebraejournal@yahoo.com" Your ticket number 91071 has been updated.
The current ticket status is: Answered.
To respond to this ticket please click the link below
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David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
A copy of the original ticket email and response has been sent to Constance as well for her own verification. We changed the settings as directed but to no avail. Our next move is to take our website to another server, possibly Ning and simply pay the premium.
Let there be no question; I am NOT affiliated with any occult or New Age organization in any way, shape or form. I have been a very vocal opponent of these movements and have been the target of some rather nasty attacks as a result. Even if one reads our content at the Spruz site you find that it is most clearly anti-New Age, anti-occult and anti-Globalist.
I appreciate the vigilence of your readers and assure them that we are aware of the situation and have been trying to get to the bottom of it ourselves with no results from Spruz other than what you've seen here. I sincerely hope you will consider joining our new forum at Ning and helping to make it just as vigilent as this blog.
Oh, the call for a world government is pretty big but other than noting it and pointing it out to others just what are we going to do to stop it? The Bible tells us there will be a global government, global religion, global money system. It looks like we're seeing it being put together in front of us but what can we do? There is No difference between the Rs and Ds. It's just The Dialectic they use on us all. I'm so depressed I can hardly get up out of bed myself. I don't know what we can do.
http://ourladyofthemoon.com/classes/
Well, there it is. You'd think the guy would be hurrying to send his explanation.
Thank you for calling me Constance. We just recently became aware of said "sponsorship" ourselves. We chose Spruz since they offer free web hosting and support. Then a few days ago we noticed this "sponsored by" at the bottom of the page. Needless to say we were outraged, as this is wholly incompatible with our theology and worldview. I personally contacted Spruz to attempt to rectify the situation. The following is the response I received, as well as my initial complaint"
"We have replied to ticket #91071Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:41 AMFrom: "Spruz Support" Add sender to ContactsTo: "tenebraejournal@yahoo.com" Your ticket number 91071 has been updated.
The current ticket status is: Answered.
To respond to this ticket please click the link below
http://spruz.com/?page=support&cmd=s&status=open&tid=91071
We value your business and work hard to make sure all tickets are handled as quickly as possible. Below you will find your ticket details.
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David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
I have sent the original email to Constance for her own verification. We attempted to follow the directions given regarding changing our settings from "religious" to "family-church", and, as your readers have noted, this has resulted in no change.
We are moving our forum to Ning as a result of this, and will pay a premium much less than what we would pay at Spruz. Let me be clear that I have been a very vocal opponent of the New Age, Paganism, the Occult and Globalism as anyone who knows me can tell you. It has earned me scorn, smears and villification. If one even reads our forum it becomes pretty clear we are not associated with such organizations. I strongly discourage Christian groups from using Spruz since the very same situation could easily befall them.
I also sincerely hope your readers will join us at our new forum and contribute their vigilence there as well.
Thank you for calling me Constance. We just recently became aware of said "sponsorship" ourselves. We chose Spruz since they offer free web hosting and support. Then a few days ago we noticed this "sponsored by" at the bottom of the page. Needless to say we were outraged, as this is wholly incompatible with our theology and worldview. I personally contacted Spruz to attempt to rectify the situation. The following is the response I received, as well as my initial complaint"
"We have replied to ticket #91071Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:41 AMFrom: "Spruz Support" Add sender to ContactsTo: "tenebraejournal@yahoo.com" Your ticket number 91071 has been updated.
The current ticket status is: Answered.
To respond to this ticket please click the link below
http://spruz.com/?page=support&cmd=s&status=open&tid=91071
We value your business and work hard to make sure all tickets are handled as quickly as possible. Below you will find your ticket details.
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David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
I have sent the original email to Constance for her own verification. We attempted to follow the directions given regarding changing our settings from "religious" to "family-church", and, as your readers have noted, this has resulted in no change.
We are moving our forum to Ning as a result of this, and will pay a premium much less than what we would pay at Spruz. Let me be clear that I have been a very vocal opponent of the New Age, Paganism, the Occult and Globalism as anyone who knows me can tell you. It has earned me scorn, smears and villification. If one even reads our forum it becomes pretty clear we are not associated with such organizations. I strongly discourage Christian groups from using Spruz since the very same situation could easily befall them.
I also sincerely hope your readers will join us at our new forum and contribute their vigilence there as well.
Thank you for calling me Constance. We just recently became aware of said "sponsorship" ourselves. We chose Spruz since they offer free web hosting and support. Then a few days ago we noticed this "sponsored by" at the bottom of the page. Needless to say we were outraged, as this is wholly incompatible with our theology and worldview. I personally contacted Spruz to attempt to rectify the situation. The following is the response I received, as well as my initial complaint"
"We have replied to ticket #91071Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:41 AMFrom: "Spruz Support" Add sender to ContactsTo: "tenebraejournal@yahoo.com" Your ticket number 91071 has been updated.
The current ticket status is: Answered.
To respond to this ticket please click the link below
http://spruz.com/?page=support&cmd=s&status=open&tid=91071
We value your business and work hard to make sure all tickets are handled as quickly as possible. Below you will find your ticket details.
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David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
I have sent the original email to Constance for her own verification. We attempted to follow the directions given regarding changing our settings from "religious" to "family-church", and, as your readers have noted, this has resulted in no change.
We are moving our forum to Ning as a result of this, and will pay a premium much less than what we would pay at Spruz. Let me be clear that I have been a very vocal opponent of the New Age, Paganism, the Occult and Globalism as anyone who knows me can tell you. It has earned me scorn, smears and villification. If one even reads our forum it becomes pretty clear we are not associated with such organizations. I strongly discourage Christian groups from using Spruz since the very same situation could easily befall them.
I also sincerely hope your readers will join us at our new forum and contribute their vigilence there as well.
Thank you for calling me Constance. We just recently became aware of said "sponsorship" ourselves. We chose Spruz since they offer free web hosting and support. Then a few days ago we noticed this "sponsored by" at the bottom of the page. Needless to say we were outraged, as this is wholly incompatible with our theology and worldview. I personally contacted Spruz to attempt to rectify the situation. The following is the response I received, as well as my initial complaint"
"We have replied to ticket #91071Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:41 AMFrom: "Spruz Support" Add sender to ContactsTo: "tenebraejournal@yahoo.com" Your ticket number 91071 has been updated.
The current ticket status is: Answered.
To respond to this ticket please click the link below
http://spruz.com/?page=support&cmd=s&status=open&tid=91071
We value your business and work hard to make sure all tickets are handled as quickly as possible. Below you will find your ticket details.
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David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
I have sent the original email to Constance for her own verification. We attempted to follow the directions given regarding changing our settings from "religious" to "family-church", and, as your readers have noted, this has resulted in no change.
We are moving our forum to Ning as a result of this, and will pay a premium much less than what we would pay at Spruz. Let me be clear that I have been a very vocal opponent of the New Age, Paganism, the Occult and Globalism as anyone who knows me can tell you. It has earned me scorn, smears and villification. If one even reads our forum it becomes pretty clear we are not associated with such organizations. I strongly discourage Christian groups from using Spruz since the very same situation could easily befall them.
I also sincerely hope your readers will join us at our new forum and contribute their vigilence there as well.
Thank you for calling me Constance. We just recently became aware of said "sponsorship" ourselves. We chose Spruz since they offer free web hosting and support. Then a few days ago we noticed this "sponsored by" at the bottom of the page. Needless to say we were outraged, as this is wholly incompatible with our theology and worldview. I personally contacted Spruz to attempt to rectify the situation. The following is the response I received, as well as my initial complaint"
"We have replied to ticket #91071Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:41 AMFrom: "Spruz Support" Add sender to ContactsTo: "tenebraejournal@yahoo.com" Your ticket number 91071 has been updated.
The current ticket status is: Answered.
To respond to this ticket please click the link below
http://spruz.com/?page=support&cmd=s&status=open&tid=91071
We value your business and work hard to make sure all tickets are handled as quickly as possible. Below you will find your ticket details.
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David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
I have sent the original email to Constance for her own verification. We attempted to follow the directions given regarding changing our settings from "religious" to "family-church", and, as your readers have noted, this has resulted in no change.
We are moving our forum to Ning as a result of this, and will pay a premium much less than what we would pay at Spruz. Let me be clear that I have been a very vocal opponent of the New Age, Paganism, the Occult and Globalism as anyone who knows me can tell you. It has earned me scorn, smears and villification. If one even reads our forum it becomes pretty clear we are not associated with such organizations. I strongly discourage Christian groups from using Spruz since the very same situation could easily befall them.
I also sincerely hope your readers will join us at our new forum and contribute their vigilence there as well.
Thank you for calling me Constance. We just recently became aware of said "sponsorship" ourselves. We chose Spruz since they offer free web hosting and support. Then a few days ago we noticed this "sponsored by" at the bottom of the page. Needless to say we were outraged, as this is wholly incompatible with our theology and worldview. I personally contacted Spruz to attempt to rectify the situation. The following is the response I received, as well as my initial complaint"
"We have replied to ticket #91071Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:41 AMFrom: "Spruz Support" Add sender to ContactsTo: "tenebraejournal@yahoo.com" Your ticket number 91071 has been updated.
The current ticket status is: Answered.
To respond to this ticket please click the link below
http://spruz.com/?page=support&cmd=s&status=open&tid=91071
We value your business and work hard to make sure all tickets are handled as quickly as possible. Below you will find your ticket details.
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David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
I have sent the original email to Constance for her own verification. We attempted to follow the directions given regarding changing our settings from "religious" to "family-church", and, as your readers have noted, this has resulted in no change.
We are moving our forum to Ning as a result of this, and will pay a premium much less than what we would pay at Spruz. Let me be clear that I have been a very vocal opponent of the New Age, Paganism, the Occult and Globalism as anyone who knows me can tell you. It has earned me scorn, smears and villification. If one even reads our forum it becomes pretty clear we are not associated with such organizations. I strongly discourage Christian groups from using Spruz since the very same situation could easily befall them.
I also sincerely hope your readers will join us at our new forum and contribute their vigilence there as well.
Fr. Ashcraft
http://unitedparanormalinternational.ning.com/
Just Googling Father Jack Ashcraft brings up some bizarre stuff. Paranormal stuff. He may be located in KY, just beyond Cincy. The exorcist stuff should have been a hint.
As I recall the Book of Daniel, "THE END WILL COME WITH A FLOOD . . ." meaning, as I believe, it will come over us so fast we will hardly know what hit us.
This prophecy may be being fulfilled in our ears!
Constance
Thank you for calling me Constance. We just recently became aware of said "sponsorship" ourselves. We chose Spruz since they offer free web hosting and support. Then a few days ago we noticed this "sponsored by" at the bottom of the page. Needless to say we were outraged, as this is wholly incompatible with our theology and worldview. I personally contacted Spruz to attempt to rectify the situation. The following is the response I received, as well as my initial complaint"
"We have replied to ticket #91071Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:41 AMFrom: "Spruz Support" Add sender to ContactsTo: "tenebraejournal@yahoo.com" Your ticket number 91071 has been updated.
The current ticket status is: Answered.
To respond to this ticket please click the link below
http://spruz.com/?page=support&cmd=s&status=open&tid=91071
We value your business and work hard to make sure all tickets are handled as quickly as possible. Below you will find your ticket details.
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David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
I have sent the original email to Constance for her own verification. We attempted to follow the directions given regarding changing our settings from "religious" to "family-church", and, as your readers have noted, this has resulted in no change.
We are moving our forum to Ning as a result of this, and will pay a premium much less than what we would pay at Spruz. Let me be clear that I have been a very vocal opponent of the New Age, Paganism, the Occult and Globalism as anyone who knows me can tell you. It has earned me scorn, smears and villification. If one even reads our forum it becomes pretty clear we are not associated with such organizations. I strongly discourage Christian groups from using Spruz since the very same situation could easily befall them.
As for my involvement with exorcism; much like Bishop Robert McKenna organizations call upon me for clarification of just what does/does not constitute demonic activity. Infrequently I have been called upon to perform the rite of exorcism for individuals who seemed to be under demonic attack. I'm certainly surprised to find something quite obviously within the theological construct of Catholic theology used as a method of attack.
I also sincerely hope your readers will join us at our new forum and contribute their vigilence there as well.
BORN TO WATCH website has up to date links and information on Ehud Olmerrt call for an "international trusteeship" over Jerusalem.
Here is link they provided to Jerusalem Post story. This is BIG NEWS.
http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?ID=189074&R=R1
or
tinyurl
http://tinyurl.com/2buw5nn
CONSTANCE
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Thank you for calling me Constance. We just recently became aware of said "sponsorship" ourselves. We chose Spruz since they offer free web hosting and support. Then a few days ago we noticed this "sponsored by" at the bottom of the page. Needless to say we were outraged, as this is wholly incompatible with our theology and worldview. I personally contacted Spruz to attempt to rectify the situation. The following is the response I received, as well as my initial complaint"
"We have replied to ticket #91071Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:41 AMFrom: "Spruz Support" Add sender to ContactsTo: "tenebraejournal@yahoo.com" Your ticket number 91071 has been updated.
The current ticket status is: Answered.
To respond to this ticket please click the link below
http://spruz.com/?page=support&cmd=s&status=open&tid=91071
We value your business and work hard to make sure all tickets are handled as quickly as possible. Below you will find your ticket details.
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David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
-continued in next posting
I have sent the original email to Constance for her own verification. We attempted to follow the directions given regarding changing our settings from "religious" to "family-church", and, as your readers have noted, this has resulted in no change.
We are moving our forum to Ning as a result of this, and will pay a premium much less than what we would pay at Spruz. Let me be clear that I have been a very vocal opponent of the New Age, Paganism, the Occult and Globalism as anyone who knows me can tell you. It has earned me scorn, smears and villification. If one even reads our forum it becomes pretty clear we are not associated with such organizations. I strongly discourage Christian groups from using Spruz since the very same situation could easily befall them.
As for my involvement with exorcism; much like Bishop Robert McKenna organizations call upon me for clarification of just what does/does not constitute demonic activity. Infrequently I have been called upon to perform the rite of exorcism for individuals who seemed to be under demonic attack. I am not involved in paranormal research of any kind, and as those individuals will tell you, I have been very critical of their activities and have made some angry by clearly telling them that they are contacting demons, not humans. Again, I merely respond to questions and concerns regarding Christian theological responses to the issues they raise, and am not the only Christian presence there attempting to share the Gospel.In fact, I have had the opportunity to be on international television with a group to perform an exorcism and REFUSED! I am very critical of their activities and they understand that. I'm certainly surprised to find something quite obviously within the theological construct of Catholic theology as exorcism and demonic activity used as a method of attack. I am in good company with Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Fr. Antonio Fortea, and others.
I also sincerely hope your readers will join us at our new forum and contribute their vigilence there as well.
RE; FR. Jack ASHCROFT' website.
Might it be possible that the link has been added by the website server?
Like Constance I googled "Our Lady of the Moon" and it appears on many Google cached results as a site sponsor. At first glance these sites seem to be 'template' sites ... I'm guessing they might be free or real cheap deals.
The 'Whois' Reverse IP results for 'our lady ...' show 1782 sites use the same IP. Phishing/Scam sites, Shared Hosting and Parked sites can all be on the same server. It's looking like it might be the server to me and not the individuals who are hosting their sites on the same server.
Maybe a techie savvy kind heart could shed more light on this?
~K~
Just a thought.
~K~
Oooh I see Fr. Ashcroft has replied while I was typing. :)
~K~
It seems the first half of my post went missing. I'll try again:
Thank you for calling me Constance. We just recently became aware of said "sponsorship" ourselves. We chose Spruz since they offer free web hosting and support. Then a few days ago we noticed this "sponsored by" at the bottom of the page. Needless to say we were outraged, as this is wholly incompatible with our theology and worldview. I personally contacted Spruz to attempt to rectify the situation. The following is the response I received, as well as my initial complaint"
"We have replied to ticket #91071Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:41 AMFrom: "Spruz Support" Add sender to ContactsTo: "tenebraejournal@yahoo.com" Your ticket number 91071 has been updated.
The current ticket status is: Answered.
To respond to this ticket please click the link below
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David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
Finally! If there are any questions after this please feel free to contact me.
God Bless,
Fr. Ashcraft
For some reason each time I post the email correspondence between myself and Spruz, wherein I make it clear that we cannot use their services under these conditions, it disappears. It certainly posted, as I reviewed it. I am starting to be suspicious that someone besides Constance has access to this blog and is deleting it. Fortunately I've sent the original email to her, so if this is the case and someone is playing games it won't work.
Third Attempt to post this:
Thank you for calling me Constance. We just recently became aware of said "sponsorship" ourselves. We chose Spruz since they offer free web hosting and support. Then a few days ago we noticed this "sponsored by" at the bottom of the page. Needless to say we were outraged, as this is wholly incompatible with our theology and worldview. I personally contacted Spruz to attempt to rectify the situation. The following is the response I received, as well as my initial complaint"
"We have replied to ticket #91071Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:41 AMFrom: "Spruz Support" Add sender to ContactsTo: "tenebraejournal@yahoo.com" Your ticket number 91071 has been updated.
The current ticket status is: Answered.
To respond to this ticket please click the link below
http://spruz.com/?page=support&cmd=s&status=open&tid=91071
We value your business and work hard to make sure all tickets are handled as quickly as possible. Below you will find your ticket details.
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David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
Global Governance objective date of 2025 is oh so misleading. They set such distant dates to attempt to ease people into the idea, without panic and fear. But I firmly believe the time line is far shorter. Once the ducts are in a row,...it will not take very long to make a move in these area. With Constance I believe they are at the point of fast tracking us now into the global plan.
FAO - Fr. Ashcraft.
I did briefly see your other post and then it was gone.
The peace of the Lord be with you.
~K~
Okay. The correspondence between myself and Spruz has been deleted a THIRD time now.
I'm very sincere in wanting to answer this issue and make it clear, through complete transparency in posting the email correspondence, that we are NOT affiliated with that organization. It has become apparent that someone here does not want me to clarify this situation and put an end to the pseudo-controversy. Thus, if anyone would like the correspondence please contact be directly. I will also provide wou with the entirety of my response which I have attempted NUMEROUS times to post here.
To the anonymous 10:30:
Read the last few chapters of Revelation. It doesn't matter if we can't stop it. In the end, God wins! Start with Revelation 19.
Fr. Ashcraft,
The men you mention, Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, and Fr. Antonio Fortea, are/were all Roman Catholic priests. Are you a Roman Catholic priest or a priest in the "Eastern Rite" (one of the Eastern churches in full communion with the Roman Catholic Church)?
By whom were you ordained and when? What is the denominational affiliation of your current parish? Is your church in full communion with the Roman Catholic Church?
Apologies for rattling off so many questions but the information you have provided thus far raises more questions than it gives answers, and as Constance often reminds us, "God is not the author of confusion." I'm sure we can both agree that clarity in the above matters is essential.
The Tooth Fairy
This is what Fr. Jack Ashcraft attempted to post that he refers to -- he sent it to me earlier by email - Part 1:
"Constance,
I'm not certain what is happening at your blog, but for some reason I can't post my response. I've tried no less than ten times and it always navigate sme to a blank page with a 404 error. I would like to ask that you post my reply which follows, since I'm unable to reply myself:
Thank you for calling me Constance. We just recently became aware of said "sponsorship" ourselves. We chose Spruz since they offer free web hosting and support. Then a few days ago we noticed this "sponsored by" at the bottom of the page. Needless to say we were outraged, as this is wholly incompatible with our theology and worldview. I personally contacted Spruz to attempt to rectify the situation. The following is the response I received, as well as my initial complaint"
"We have replied to ticket #91071Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:41 AMFrom: "Spruz Support" Add sender to ContactsTo: "tenebraejournal@yahoo.com" Your ticket number 91071 has been updated.
The current ticket status is: Answered.
To respond to this ticket please click the link below
http://spruz.com/?page=support&cmd=s&status=open&tid=91071
We value your business and work hard to make sure all tickets are handled as quickly as possible. Below you will find your ticket details.
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Part 2 - Ashcraft email
"David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
I have sent the original email to Constance for her own verification. We attempted to follow the directions given regarding changing our settings from "religious" to "family-church", and, as your readers have noted, this has resulted in no change.
We are moving our forum to Ning as a result of this, and will pay a premium much less than what we would pay at Spruz. Let me be clear that I have been a very vocal opponent of the New Age, Paganism, the Occult and Globalism as anyone who knows me can tell you. It has earned me scorn, smears and villification. If one even reads our forum it becomes pretty clear we are not associated with such organizations. I strongly discourage Christian groups from using Spruz since the very same situation could easily befall them.
As for my involvement with exorcism; much like Bishop Robert McKenna organizations call upon me for clarification of just what does/does not constitute demonic activity. Infrequently I have been called upon to perform the rite of exorcism for individuals who seemed to be under demonic attack. I am not involved in paranormal research of any kind, and as those individuals will tell you, I have been very critical of their activities and have made some angry by clearly telling them that they are contacting demons, not humans. Again, I merely respond to questions and concerns regarding Christian theological responses to the issues they raise, and am not the only Christian presence there attempting to share the Gospel. I'm certainly surprised to find something quite obviously within the theological construct of Catholic theology used as a method of attack.
I also sincerely hope your readers will join us at our new forum and contribute their vigilence there as well."
Part 2 - Ashcraft email
"David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
I have sent the original email to Constance for her own verification. We attempted to follow the directions given regarding changing our settings from "religious" to "family-church", and, as your readers have noted, this has resulted in no change.
We are moving our forum to Ning as a result of this, and will pay a premium much less than what we would pay at Spruz. Let me be clear that I have been a very vocal opponent of the New Age, Paganism, the Occult and Globalism as anyone who knows me can tell you. It has earned me scorn, smears and villification. If one even reads our forum it becomes pretty clear we are not associated with such organizations. I strongly discourage Christian groups from using Spruz since the very same situation could easily befall them.
As for my involvement with exorcism; much like Bishop Robert McKenna organizations call upon me for clarification of just what does/does not constitute demonic activity. Infrequently I have been called upon to perform the rite of exorcism for individuals who seemed to be under demonic attack. I am not involved in paranormal research of any kind, and as those individuals will tell you, I have been very critical of their activities and have made some angry by clearly telling them that they are contacting demons, not humans. Again, I merely respond to questions and concerns regarding Christian theological responses to the issues they raise, and am not the only Christian presence there attempting to share the Gospel. I'm certainly surprised to find something quite obviously within the theological construct of Catholic theology used as a method of attack.
I also sincerely hope your readers will join us at our new forum and contribute their vigilence there as well."
Part 2 - Ashcraft email
"David has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/22/2010 1:39:04 AM:
The sponsored by area is based on your site category that you have set. Upgraded communities are able to sponsor site's based on the category they are in. You could change your site from Religion and Beleifs to Family - Church. You can change it on: Settings > Manage Settings page on your site manage bar.
The other option would be to upgrade your site, as pay sites do not have the Sponsored By section.
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FatherModerator has added the following comment to this ticket on 9/21/2010 8:28:11 PM:
Our website is a Catholic site. We were surprised to find that the bottom of our main page, on the left side, lists our sponsor as "Our Lady of the Moon", which when you click on it takes you to a Wiccan organization. How do we change this since we cannot possibly use your services under the current sponsorship?"
I have sent the original email to Constance for her own verification. We attempted to follow the directions given regarding changing our settings from "religious" to "family-church", and, as your readers have noted, this has resulted in no change.
Part 3 - Ashcraft
We are moving our forum to Ning as a result of this, and will pay a premium much less than what we would pay at Spruz. Let me be clear that I have been a very vocal opponent of the New Age, Paganism, the Occult and Globalism as anyone who knows me can tell you. It has earned me scorn, smears and villification. If one even reads our forum it becomes pretty clear we are not associated with such organizations. I strongly discourage Christian groups from using Spruz since the very same situation could easily befall them.
As for my involvement with exorcism; much like Bishop Robert McKenna organizations call upon me for clarification of just what does/does not constitute demonic activity. Infrequently I have been called upon to perform the rite of exorcism for individuals who seemed to be under demonic attack. I am not involved in paranormal research of any kind, and as those individuals will tell you, I have been very critical of their activities and have made some angry by clearly telling them that they are contacting demons, not humans. Again, I merely respond to questions and concerns regarding Christian theological responses to the issues they raise, and am not the only Christian presence there attempting to share the Gospel. I'm certainly surprised to find something quite obviously within the theological construct of Catholic theology used as a method of attack.
I also sincerely hope your readers will join us at our new forum and contribute their vigilence there as well."
Call for 'Global Governance'
"...momentous change was ahead, with the gap between increasing disorder and weakening governance structures widening." (Create the problem)
"...a multipolar system is emerging and that matching the new distribution of power with new rules and
institutions will be critical to preserving international peace and stability." (Create the solution)
Though I am not in the habit of responding to fairytale characters, such as the Tooth Fairy, I will respond in brief regarding my affiliation. I had thought I made my position fairly clear on both our former forum under the posting "Why I am a Sedevacantist", and then explaining my position as a sedevacantist further on the program with Constance. So, not surpisingly my mythological friend, I am a sedevacantist. In brief, a sedevacantist is a Catholic (they may be laity or clergy) who does not recognize the current heirarchy of the Vatican, since they are manifest heretics. Thus we do not operate within the confines of the dioceses of the Novus Ordo Church. (That term alone should raise the eyebrows of anyone who researches the New Age; for what else could the conspirators of Vatican II, themselves proven Freemasons, Theosophists and heretics, call their revolution but the "New Order"?) We further do not recognize any of the pretenders to the papacy after the death of Pius XII. Our parishes are independent of the Novus Ordo apparatus (thankfully), and maintain traditional Catholic theology and practice. There are hundreds of chapels and churches throughout the US that also adhere to the sedevacantist position. Thousands throughout the world, in fact. So, the question from our standpoint for the Catholic to ask is not whether traditionalists are in union with the Vatican, but whether the Vatican is in union with traditional Catholic theology. The answer is a resounding no. Byzantine Catholics are historically "uniate". However, again as a sedevacantist our union is with the traditional faith and the popes who taught and defended that faith, not the heretics of the Novus Ordo Church. I honestly don't have the time to check in here as often as some people post, so I can't say that I will answer any further questions in a timely manner. I would suggest that, if you want more information on sedevacantism, you visit: http://www.sedevacantist.com/
I am not affiliated with the owners of that site, we just happen to agree on the issues as sedevacantists. God bless you.
Constance, I apologise if you have already seen this & referred to it before.
I found this booklet on the one of the links you posted.
http://www.dni.gov/nic/PDF_2025/2025_Global_Trends_Final_Report.pdf
I hope you are recovering and will soon be back to full health.
R.
Yes, you are right Constance, the Book of Daniel does state that.
Daniel 9, vs 26 & 27
Daniel 9:26-27 (King James Version)
26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
R.
Re: Fr Ash-craft [11:19 AM]
Bishop Robert McKenna? Sorry to point it out, but he's not related to the witch and New Ager Paul McKenna is he?
http://www.paulmckenna.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_McKenna
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/
newstopics/celebritynews/8009931/Paul-McKennas-family-are-entranced-by-Michael-Jacksons-ghoulish-house.html
Tooth Fairy, who are you? Please provide evidence and explain coherently your reasons for using a pagan pseudonym. It is a pseudonym, n'est pas?
What is your real name and why are you concealed in the shadows?
Yours,
defence lawyer for the accused.
Defence lawyer,
There is nothing "pagan" about a Tooth Fairy so please cease and desist from your slander. The moniker is merely "whimsical" and was inspired earlier in the year by another contributor named the "Easter Bunny."
If you want "pagan" you should see some of the weird stuff some of these Sedevacantists are into.
The Tooth Fairy
to Anonymous 3:10 -- Thanks. Also, even faster is the link under the title which will bring up this very report.
Constance
I would so very much like to hear from SUSANNA on the "sedevacantist" issues.
Constance
The EU/USA 2025 report has Javier Solana's fingerprints, no palm prints ALL OVER IT. The EU ISS is run by one of his female proteges, Nicole Gnesotto.
Constance
Dear TF,
So you were whimsically inspired by the "Easter Bunny", were you?
And I put it to you that by your going by the implications of your response, that you, ipso facto, believe there's nothing pagan about the Easter Bunny either?
Despite someone posting here under such an appellation as Easter Bunny, let me make it clear I am not referring to this poster here, but the Easter Bunny which may or may not have been an 'inspiration' to the person adopting the name, though I doubt it was.
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia:
http://oce.catholic.com/index.php?title=Easter
"3. The Easter Rabbit
...lays the eggs, for which reason they are hidden in a nest or in the garden. The rabbit is a pagan symbol and has always been an emblem of fertility (Simrock, Mythologie, 551)."
and according to the Christian Answers webpage,
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-t020.html
"The Easter Rabbit or Hare
The rabbit is well known as a sexual symbol of fertility.
In various parts of the world, religions which developed from Babel also associate the rabbit with periodicity, both human and lunar (Egypt, China, etc.).
As you may remember, the Mother Goddess Semiramis (Easter) is associated with the Moon. In other words, the Easter bunny symbolizes the Mother Goddess. Annual Spring time fertility rituals are associated worship of the Mother Goddess and Tammuz, the reincarnation of her husband Nimrod."
Still waiting for an explanation,
Defence Lawyer
THE EU ISS was mentioned in RECOMMENDATION 666 -- Don't know if Nicole Gnesotto is still running it, but it clearly is Solana's creature from the deep lagoon.
Constance
Paragraph 19 of Recommendation 666 of the WEU, to be precise:
"Ensure that the WEU Institute for Security Studies can continue its activities in the service of WEU and the European Union;"
So much for the WEU being "shut down." BALONEY!
Constance
The Brookings Institution (Strobe Talbott, Javier Solana et al, ad nauseum) are clearly on board on this "2025" or much sooner as they have said repeatedly before (in 2008, Javier Solana said it was IMPERATIVE they have the machinery in place by 2009! -- this was in a Brookings report!
CONSTANCE
Dear TF,
I may sound rather legalistic in my former posts, but seeing as you prosecuted a response from Fr Ashcraft, I thought leagal representation was due on his behalf, and so in the capacity of his establishing his defence I therefore feel my approach necessitated.
I trust you understand it is nothing personal, as I trust your response to Fr Ashcraft were not either.
Defence Lawyer
From Javier Solana's mouth 2008 regarding what we are now seeing:
"The aim of this project is ambitious
and urgent: to launch a new reform effort
for the global security system in 2009 ...
For the global system is in serious trouble.
It is simply not capable of solving the
challenges of today. You all know the
list: terrorism, non-proliferation, climate
change, pandemics, failing states ... None
can be solved by a single government
acting alone.”
— Javier Solana, High Representative for the Common
Foreign and Security Policy, European Union;
MGI Advisory Group Member
AHEM, from the current joint EU USa combined efforts: Solana's fingerprints, palmprints and BOOTPRINTS are all over it! --
'3 The Managing Global Instability Project—an initiative of the Brookings Institution, New York University’s
Center on International Cooperation, and Stanford University’s Center for International Security and Cooperation—
is conducting a series of case studies of Russian, Chinese, Indian, and South African approaches to fragile states.
Some early findings have emerged from this work, which we have cited in the main text and this annex."
Interesting how the post preceeding my last has been removed.
I shan't bother repeating it all, but will place links with summaries here.
http://oce.catholic.com/index.php?title=Easter
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia:
"3. The Easter Rabbit
...lays the eggs, for which reason they are hidden in a nest or in the garden. The rabbit is a pagan symbol and has always been an emblem of fertility (Simrock, Mythologie, 551)."
Furthermore, according to Christian Answers,
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-t020.html
The Easter Rabbit or Hare
"The rabbit is well known as a sexual symbol of fertility."
"In various parts of the world, religions which developed from Babel also associate the rabbit with periodicity, both human and lunar (Egypt, China, etc.)"
"As you may remember, the Mother Goddess Semiramis (Easter) is associated with the Moon. In other words, the Easter bunny symbolizes the Mother Goddess. Annual Spring time fertility rituals are associated worship of the Mother Goddess and Tammuz, the reincarnation of her husband Nimrod."
Defence Lawyer
This site shows what Fr Ashcraft was talking about
http://www.novusordowatch.org/archive2004-03.htm
Question:
Which is it?
Fr. Jack AshCRAFT said...
or
Fr. Jack AshCROFT said...
Two different names have been used to sign up for Google Blogger. Check previous comments section - there are two different names used for remarks submitted by
Fr. Jack Ashcroft/Ashcraft.
-Rudi
As part of my family uses 'Ashcroft" and the other "Ashcraft", and since we pronounce it as "croft", I sometimes post my name phonetically-i.e. "Ashcroft". However, my immediate family spell it "Ashcraft". The phonetic spelling helps avoid what otherwise becomes all sorts of odd ways to say my name, despite the relative simplicity of it.
No huge mystery or conspiracy to find there. As an aside, I would like to thank whomever is sending me the hate mail. My email is filled with nasty comments, name calling and false accusations. Again, this confirms for me that leaving the fundamentalists behind was the best and most Christ centered thing I could have done. I sincerely pray that Christ will reach you and transform you from hatred to wisdom, whoever you are.
To Fr. Jack Ashcraft (7:30 PM):
Re: "I would like to thank whomever is sending me the hate mail."
Father: With all due respect, please explain to us exactly how someone asking you for clarification translates into 'hate mail'?
Fr. Ashcraft
I would say we don't know you well enough to take your word that you are receiving hate mail or any other thing you are saying about yourself. That's why people ask questions. It's a reasonable thing to do. You use the title Father. That is something that someone might use to give extra credibility to what they are saying, so it's only reasonable to ask questions about the title. If you posted anonymously or with some alias on various topics, no one would give a hoot who you are.
The victim card has been overplayed in recent years by the way.
Dorothy
A plague on (almost) all of your churches! I belonged to a number, Roman Catholic, Evangelical, mainline Episcopalian, studied to join Greek Orthodox but couldn't be accepted because husband was not a Christian (he became a Christian) Messianic. Also was a New Ager, studied to become a Jew, and my childhood non-Christian church was Unitarian. A say all of these things are of the idiot Novus Ordo or whatever Fr. Jack calls them! Well not all--"almost" all.
We need church to teach the gospel, but after we grow up, most churches just drag us down and pervert the gospel.
It's lonely out here, but Jesus was a lonely man too.
Peace, Fr. Ashcroft. Peace everyone else. The prophecy horror just goes onward to its conclusion.
God is in charge.
Mariel
Anon,
Please note that my comment regarding the hate mail I'm receiving was prefaced by the following words: "As an aside.."
Usually this indicates that the following subject is a side issue or topic not directly related to the previous discussion. Using this basic understanding of the words "as an aside" it becomes clear that the comment was not directed at someone named "anonymous" asking for clarification (as ironic as that is).
Since I have yet again had posts deleted, preventing me from adequately responding to questions being asked (as has even been noted by one other poster here), I have no choice but to discontinue my dialogue here. Anyone wishing to continue the conversation with me is invited to do so by contacting me directly, where the person attempting to control the flow of information cannot reach.
I love you tooth fairy~! you came about during the days I was going off on this forum.
You are a solid person in my book, don't ever change.
Strong Bad
Fr. Ashcroft,
There is no one sitting outside of this blog just waiting to see what you write in order to delete what you may post. If it was an automatic delete, you would never get through. You aren't that important in the scheme of things.
You do seem to have a very long concocted history that has started unraveling. There are some very astute researchers here as you are learning. However since you are leaving no need for further dialogue it appears.
Dorothy
I Google searched Spruz sponsorship and found this piece of information.
http://tinyurl.com/22t89a5
Bottom line is that anyone can purchase sponsorship blocks on Spruz and Fr. Ashkroft has been left holding the bag having an unwelcomed sponsor. They've perhaps had a good laugh over this a few times now.
Speaking from personal experience, from time to time people who take great offense at my profile email me. They are offended because Google lists my sun sign as scorpio. I am told how inappropriate this is for a Christian.
The sun sign is a part of the Google blogspot feature which I cannot change. I leave it there because for various reasons I want to list my age for the readers. I ignore that part of the profile. I expect those who read my posts will find astrology inconsistent and incompatible with what I write. Hence, I expect they will ignore this part of the profile also. Once I've explained, if I hear back that they are still deeply offended then that is not my problem.
I'm glad to have a forum where I can share my research without having to pay--especially since this research is already very costly and it comes out of my own pocket.
Now if Google were to start doing to me what Fr. Ashcroft just experienced with Spruz, I would explore a web hosting site such as GoDaddy.
Fr. Ashcroft has been made aware of his situation and answered his sponsor's messaage is inconsistent with his. He also said he is taking action to correct the situation. I hope his record is taken into account before ripping him to shreds
Rich
After networking with a handful of researchers over the years, all of whom I blieved to be solid, I was astounded and deeply saddened to find one among us who honored Shiva.
Since I don't know Fr. Ashcroft, I cannot speak for him as being "solid". I do sincerely hope he is. I will look at his internet material for consistency before I form an opinion.
Rich
I find it interesting that United Paranormal International has a post by Father Jack Ashcraft "Looking for an Established Author". One moment its there and within a minute's time it was deleted. I do have it screen captured and it still can be viewed by clicking on the cached version.
Rich,
I apologize. I didn't realize that was of interest. I was looking for someone with knowledge of writing to help me write a book on spiritual warfare, with some minor details from exorcisms I performed. If you would like access to UPI I can make sure that happens so you can view anything I've posted there.
Dear Constance,
The following article gives a good overview of the sedevacantist movement which is a subset of the Traditionalist movement
SEDEVACANTISM
Sedevacantism is the position held by a minority of Traditionalist Catholics who claim that the Papal See has been vacant since either the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958 or Pope John XXIII in 1963.
Sedevacantists believe that Paul VI (1963–1978), John Paul I (1978), John Paul II (1978–2005) and Benedict XVI (since 2005) have been neither true Catholics nor true Popes, by virtue of allegedly having espoused the heresy of Modernism, or of having otherwise denied or contradicted solemnly defined Catholic dogmas. Some of them classify John XXIII (1958–1963) also as a Modernist antipope.
The term "sedevacantism" is derived from the Latin phrase sede vacante, which literally means "the seat being vacant", the seat in question being that of a bishop. A specific use of the phrase is in the context of the vacancy of the Holy See between the death or resignation of a Pope and the election of his successor. "Sedevacantism" as a term in English appears to date from the 1980s, though the movement itself is older.
Some small groups of Traditionalist Catholics give allegiance to alternative Popes of their own. Since they hold that the Holy See is headed by their nominee and therefore is not in fact vacant, they are not sedevacantists in the strict sense, and are sometimes called "conclavists". However, the term "sedevacantist" is often applied to them because they reject the generally accepted papal succession....read entire article....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Sedevacantism
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One of the earliest proponents of sedevacantism was the American Francis Schuckardt.
FRANCIS SCHUCKARDT
Francis Konrad Schuckardt (July 10, 1937 – November 5, 2006) was an American Traditionalist Catholic independent bishop and the first known bishop of the sedevacantist movement in the United States. Sedevacantism holds that Pope Paul VI —sometimes going back to include John XXIII— and his successors are not valid Popes. Schuckardt founded the Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen (CMRI) and the Tridentine Latin Rite Catholic Church (TLRCC), considered by some former members as being a cult....read more...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Francis_Schuckardt
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CONGREGATION OF MARY IMACULATE QUEEN
The Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen (CMRI) (Latin: Congregatio Mariae Reginae Immaculatae) is a sedevacantist religious community. The primary mission of CMRI is to promote its interpretation of the message of Our Lady of Fatima. It is has also gone by the names of Tridentine Latin Rite Catholic Church, Fatima Crusaders, and Oblates of Mary Immaculate Queen of the Universe.
History
The Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen was formed in 1967in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, by Francis Schuckardt with the assistance of Denis Chicoine. In 1969, with the approval of Bishop Sylvester Treinen, of the Diocese of Boise, Shuckardt formed the group into a religious congregation of sisters and brothers.
With the implementation of the reforms of the Second Vatican Council, Schuckhardt and his group came to the conclusion that Paul VI was not a valid pope and therefore sought services from priests who shared his theological position. In the early 1970s Schuckhardt received ordination as a priest and as a bishop from Daniel Q. Brown, an Old Catholic bishop who apparently converted to Schuckhardt's brand of Catholicism.
In the late 1970s CMRI acquired the old Jesuit scholasticate Mount Saint Michael in Spokane, Washington, making it their congregation's center.
In 1984, Chicoine publicly accused Schuckardt of alleged drug abuse and gross personal immorality, which appeared in the secular press. In June 1984, Chicoine, with the backing of the majority of the congregation's clergy and laity, ousted Schuckardt.
Post-Schuckardt
In autumn of 1984, the priests sought out a bishop to ordain clergy for CMRI and found Bishop George Musey of Galveston, Texas, whose episcopal lineage can be traced to Archbishop Pierre Martin Ngô Ðình Thuc. On April 23, 1985, three of the four remaining priests "formally and publicly" took an "Abjuration of Error and Profession of Faith ad cautelam" before Bishop Musey in case, through their previous actions, they had incurred any ecclesiastical censures. Bishop Musey then conditionally re-ordained them, although he publicly stated he personally had not doubts as to their validity of their earlier ordinations.
In 1986, CMRI held its first General Chapter establishing a formal set of Rules and Constitutions. In the same year, the Rule was approved by Bishop Robert F. McKenna, OP, whose episcopal lineage can also be traced to Archbishop Thuc.
In 1989, Father Mark Pivarunas was elected Superior General of the Congregation. Father Pivarunas received episcopal consecration in 1991 by Bishop Moises Carmona, also of the Thuc lineage.
Pivarunas currently serves as Superior General. Bishop Schuckardt (before his death) and his followers dispute Pivarunas' position as Superior General inasmuch as Bishop Schuckardt, the founder of the Congregation, had never officially resigned as Superior General and further claimed to have excommunicated Pivarunas, which would disqualify Pivarunas, according to traditional Catholic Church law, from holding that position.
Present day
The Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen serves 29 churches and chapels in the United States, Canada and New Zealand. They also operate the Mater Dei Seminary in Omaha, Nebraska, while the Sisters' motherhouse is located in Spokane, Washington (Mount Saint Michaels Mission)......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Tridentine_Latin_Rite_Catholic_
Church
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Schuckardt's Tridentine Latin rite Catholic Church has won a place at Rick Ross's cult hall of fame.
TRIDENTINE LATIN RITE CATHOLIC CHURCH
http://www.rickross.com/groups/
tlrchurch.html
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As was stated above, Bishop Robert McKenna is of the Archbishop Thuc succession.....validly but illicitly consecrated.....and ipso facto excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church.
McKenna operates out of Monroe, Connecticut and was closely associated with the late Fr. Malachi Martin and also with the famous "demonologists" Ed and Lorraine Warren......and other peculiar characters like Rama Coomaraswamy, another sedevacantist who, like his father, Ananda Coomaraswamy espoused the pagan/gnostic Perennialist philosophy and tried to merge it with Roman Catholicism.
Rama was illicitly ordained a priest by Jose Ramon Lopez-Gaston reportedly with Father Malachi Martin as co-consecrator!
ROBERT MCKENNA
Robert Fidelis McKenna, O.P. (born July 8, 1927) is a Dominican bishop residing at Our Lady of the Rosary Chapel in Monroe, Connecticut since 1973. He is known for his traditionalist Catholic positions. He is also known from the Fox TV-movie The Haunted, which is about the Smurl haunting where McKenna conducted two exorcisms......
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Life
He was ordained a Roman Catholic priest for the Dominican Order in 1958 by Cardinal Amleto Giovanni Cicognani. After the Second Vatican Council, while working as a translator and scientific researcher for his religious Order, he became increasingly concerned with the ramifications of the Vatican reforms, and finally removed himself from those in his Order with whom he felt he could no longer associate in good conscience. He continued as a Dominican priest while joining other priests in the Orthodox Roman Catholic Movement (O.R.C.M. or ORCM), a traditionalist Catholic organization founded by Fr. Francis E. Fenton that represented itself as preserving authentic Roman Catholicism from what its members viewed as radical modernist changes in doctrine and liturgy. The ORCM still exists as a corporation for legal purposes, but has long ceased to be used to represent a religious organization. As early as his October 1985 issue of Catholics Forever, Fr. McKenna referred to his involvement historically as "in ORCM days".
Fr. McKenna was consecrated a bishop on August 22, 1986 in Raveau, France by Mgr. Michel Guerard des Lauriers, O.P, one of the bishops consecrated by Bishop Ngo Dinh Thuc without papal mandate.
Exorcist
Bishop McKenna was also a noted exorcist. While performing exorcisms is not in itself noteworthy for a Roman Catholic priest, some of his cases were also investigated by psychic researchers such as the Warrens, and some of his cases have been sensationalized against his wishes. He attempted exorcisms in the Smurl haunting case, which case was described in various books and in the Fox TV-movie The Haunted. Another exorcism he performed in 1985 in Warren, Massachusetts was featured in the Boston Herald and later recounted by the same reporters in the book Satan's Harvest. Furthermore, he believes that "the official establishment does not believe that the devil exist anymore... they do not believe, and when they do, they don't want to get involved." Due to his advanced age, McKenna has given up taking any more cases...read entire article...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Robert_McKenna
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The infamous case of demonic possession of Maurice "Frenchy" Theriault in Warren Massachusetts occurred not far from where I live and made the front pages of the newspapers here in 1985. In fact, I still have the news clips.
There must have been something to it because the late Bishop Timothy Harrington of Worcester, who had ecclesiastical jurisdiction over the case, gave permission for an exorcism......NOT to excommunicated Bishop McKenna.....but reportedly to the famous healing priest Father Ralph D'Orio. Mckenna performed another exorcism later because he claimed that the one performed by Father D'Orio was not de regeur.
While McKenna claimed to have succeeded where Father D'Orio had failed, Maurice "Frenchy" Therriault nevertheless wound up taking his own life after he nearly succeeded in murdering his wife.
A CASE OF POSSESSION IN WARREN
http://www.masscrossroads.com/
warren.html
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SATAN'S HARVEST REVIEW
http://www.sff.net/people/
doylemacdonald/r_sahar.htm
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Among the more infamous sedevacantists whose sedevacantism morphed into conclavism was Clemente Dominguez y Gomez who became antipope Gregory XVII.
CLEMENTE DOMINGUEZ Y GOMEZ
Clemente Domínguez y Gómez (May 23, 1946 – March 22, 2005) was a self-proclaimed successor of Pope Paul VI, and was recognised as Pope Gregory XVII by supporters of the Palmarian Catholic Church Catholic breakway movement in 1978.
His claim was not taken seriously by mainstream Roman Catholicism, the vast majority of whom were unaware of his existence.
Clemente Domínguez y Gómez, who was born in Seville, Spain, became closely associated with the Palmar de Troya movement, which had its origins in an alleged apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary on March 30, 1968 in El Palmar de Troya, a little village near Utrera in the Province of Seville. He claimed to have experienced visions of the Virgin Mary from September 30, 1969. He claimed that the Virgin in her messages condemned heresy and what was called progressivism, namely the reform of the Catholic Church underway as a result of Vatican II. His followers claimed he possessed the stigmata, the wounds of Jesus after crucifixion, on his hands. However, the Catholic Church cast doubts on the legitimacy of the alleged visions and apparitions.
Clemente Domínguez' claim to be the Pope of the Catholic Church remains unaccepted by Roman Catholics, who accepted Pope John Paul I (1978) and Pope John Paul II (1978–2005) as the true successors of Pope Paul VI. Pope Gregory XVII is generally regarded as an antipope.
Controversially ordained
In December 1975, Clemente Domínguez founded his own religious order, The Carmelites of the Holy Face, allegedly upon instructions from the Blessed Virgin Mary in an apparition. Domínguez, who assumed the name Fr. Ferdinand, was ordained bishop by Roman Catholic Archbishop, Ngô Ðình Thuc Pierre Martin. Archbishop Thuc was subsequently excommunicated for his ordinations, which were deemed valid but illicit. (Although Archbishop Thuc had the power to ordain he did not have the authority to do so from Pope Paul VI, which is a requirement for licit episcopal holy orders in Roman Catholicism.) The ordinations and the validity of Domínguez' "mission" were disputed by the Spanish Roman Catholic hierarchy.
In May 1976, Domínguez was blinded in a car accident. He claimed further visions, including visions from Jesus, who he claimed told him: You shall be the Peter to come, the Pope who will consolidate the Faith and the Church in her integrity, who shall battle against heresy with great power, for legions of Angels shall assist you... me Great Pope Gregory, Glory of the Olives... He also claimed that Christ had named him His sub-Vicar, with the automatic right of succession to the papacy after Pope Paul VI. On August 6, 1978, Pope Paul died and Domínguez claimed the papacy, proclaiming himself Pope Gregory XVII.
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There is no pope. Conclavists are idiotic. The Palmerians are insane-agreed. And Dr. Coomaraswamy was a heretic-no disagreement here. These are all examples of sedevacantists who went bad. Completely agree with you on that.
And one more quick point; Francis Shuckhardt wasn't a valid ANYTHING. He was an Old Catholic, which all traditionalists view as invalid.
To Fr. Ashcraft:
Now I'm puzzled. I'm the only one with privileges to delete posts here and I have deleted none. It appears you had problems getting them up initially which was also a mystery to me. I tried to help when you told me you were having troubles posting. You are perfectly welcome to post here as are the others.
Constance
Constance,
I'm not sure what the problem is. However, I am not alone in noting that my posts would be here and then the next were deleted. Another member noted that she had seen my post and then it was seemingly removed.
That is to say the least highly suspicious. I appreciate your kindness in allowing me to post here. Personally I feel that this thread is degenerating into a petty attempt to discredit me based on nothing more than a bad situation with a free forum provider and disagreement with my position as a traditionalist, sedevacantist, and for some, a Catholic. I have been transparent, sent you the original email regarding the Spruz account, answered the subsequent questions put to me, all to no avail. In fact, it has become almost an amusing bit of a "witch hunt", if you'll pardon the expression. I also suspect that some of this is fueled by my criticism of the network you broadcast with, and I know you witnessed the outright ugliness and hatred I was the target of atthat chat room despite being cordial myself. I still highly respect and value your work and opinion, but find little to be gained from remaining here as a source of disruption merely by my presence. That detracts from what you are trying to accomplish here anyway. Against my better judgement I stayed after saying I wouldn't, but that has been a mistake. I apologize to you for that. I certainly hope we can work together in the future and may God bless you and Christ be with you.
Constance,
And then there are the sedevacantist Dimond brothers and their Most Holy Family Monastery.
MOST HOLY FAMILY MONASTERY
Most Holy Family Monastery is a non-profit sedevacantist organization run by Michael Dimond. The Roman Catholic Church opposes it and its positions. Roman Catholic laymen rebut their theological claims, point by point.
The diocese of Lincoln, Nebraska, condemns them as anti-Catholic. The Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights commented on their January, 2009, pamphlet attacking Pope John Paul II as a heretic, chiefly for ecumenicism. The Catholic League is a lay organization, separate from the church, but endorsed by a number of American Archbishops. It describes its mission as advocacy, like the ADL or NAACP.
History
It was founded in 1967, in Berlin, New Jersey, by a self-proclaimed Benedictine monk named Joseph Natale (born 1933), originally as a community for handicapped men. Natale entered the Benedictine Archabbey in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, in 1960 as a lay postulant, but left less than a year later to start his own Holy Family Monastery. According to an archivist of the Saint Vincent Archabbey in Latrobe, Natale left before taking vows; he never actually became a Benedictine monk.
Throughout the late 1960s and early 1970s, Natale denounced the Second Vatican Council and the New Mass, and by the mid-1970s the community had become separate from the Catholic Church. By mid-1980s, there were ten monks in it, but by 1994 the number declined to three. Shortly after a conference in 1994, John Vennari left to work for Fr. Nicholas Gruner.
Natale died in 1995, and Michael Dimond (official name Frederick Dimond[6]), who joined at the age of 19 in 1992, was elected the Superior. Soon after, he relocated to Granger, New York (close to Fillmore, New York), where Natale owned more than 90 acres (36 ha) of donated land.
Natale himself was never a sedevacantist, although his successor Michael Dimond turned to that belief in 1998 or 1999 after he expelled one of the members of MHFM, Richard Ibranyi, in 1997, for being a sedevacantist. Shortly after, Frederick's biological brother Peter Dimond (official name Robert Dimond) joined the monastery.
Dimond supported Gerry Matatics when he held similar beliefs.
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Religious practices
Because none of them were ever ordained, and they believe that the New Mass is invalid and a false worship, they receive the sacraments from a Byzantine rite Catholic Church that is in communion with Benedict XVI, in Rochester, New York, in layman's clothes in lieu of their Benedictine habits for this occasion. Peter Dimond wrote: "In receiving the sacraments from certain Byzantine priests for over the last decade – i.e. from priests who are not notorious or imposing about their heresies – I've received what I consider to be tremendous spiritual graces."
Claims of miraculous experience
According to Michael Cuneo, who researched the various traditional movements in the USA, Natale claimed that he had the gift of prophecy in these words:
Even before Vatican II was finished, I knew, and knew absolutely, that it was part of a Communist conspiracy to destroy the Church. The bishops at the council wanted to democratize Catholicism, they wanted an egalitarian theology, and most of them were secret communists and Masons. They knew exactly what they were doing. My community here was the first one in the United States to see the council for what it really was, and we rejected it completely.
Regardless of what you have been told, John Paul I did not die of natural causes. He was murdered. Shortly after his election "I went into a kind of trance" and was told that John Paul I would be murdered because he wanted to return the Church to its traditions. He was murdered by his own. The Communist infiltrators in the Vatican and the College of Cardinals, working together with the Masons, killed John Paul I. At the same time I also had a vision of John Paul II, and I was told that he would be the next pope and also that he would be an authentic pope, even though most of his actions would be controlled by Communist advisers and manipulators in the Vatican.
Five years [from 1994] is about all the time the world has left.
A former member claimed that he heard angels singing when he joined the monastery.......read more..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_
Holy_Family_Monastery
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Racketeering charges allowed against Western New York monks
http://findarticles.com/p/articles
/mi_qn4180/is_20090406/ai_n31516182/
I'm puzzled as to most here. I posted some of the most CRUCIAL material here since the blog started. Herb Peters would have jumped all over this one -- and all of the discussion is about Fr. Ashcraft.
What gives?
Constance
The last post by Susanna (and many thanks to her for the invaluable information -- thorough as she always is) reminds me also of a Protestant operation in Lenox, Massachusetts, now shut down called THE BIBLE SPEAKS.
Constance
Starting to see my dilemma Constance? I suspect someone is toying with this blog.
The Dimonds aren't even respected in the traditionalist community. Bad example. Plus they're anti-Semites. They would fit in well in that respect at a network I'm aware of.
Constance,
I remember THE BIBLE SPEAKS well.
It was located here in Lenox, Massachusetts up in the Berkshires and was led by a man named Carl Stevens, Jr.
There was a big Brouhaha when heiress Betsy Dovydenas sued Stevens for the return of her donations, claiming that Stevens bilked her out of more than $6,000,000.00.
After "Betsy" won the lawsuit Stevens tendered his resignation at a private meeting of Bible Speaks leaders and announced that he was moving to Baltimore.
A few days later, when Judge Queenan appointed a trustee to oversee the church's reorganization under chapter 11, the church announced it would shut its doors"
Not long after, Stevens set up shop again in Maryland.
Stevens died June 3, 2008.
ELIZABETH DOVYDENAS VS. THE BIBLE SPEAKS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Elizabeth_Dovydenas_vs._The_Bible_
Speaks
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CARL H.STEVENS JR.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_
H._Stevens_Jr.
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GREATER GRACE WORLD OUTREACH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great
er_Grace_World_Outreach
Regarding the "Global Governance" business, this is why we can't allow fiascos like the Copenhagen Treaty or other initiatives that are merely fronts for global control to be enacted into law here in the United states.
The report was issued 3 1/2 years to the day after Solana gave the kickoff speech for the global governance project, "Managing Global Insecurity" on March 21, 2007.
Constance
I see some duplicate posts and am going to eliminate same.
Constnce
I'm puzzled as to most here. I posted some of the most CRUCIAL material here since the blog started. Herb Peters would have jumped all over this one -- and all of the discussion is about Fr. Ashcraft.
What gives?
Constance
Constance,
I can only speak for myself, but to be honest, since the entire Bjorn fiasco, where his occult ties were unmasked (for which, to my knowledge, he has not repudiated -- how are his wife and family?) my guard has been up with anyone who claims to be fighting the New Age movement.
You had Ashcraft on your show the other day thus lending him credibility. In addition, he uses the title "Fr." yet has still not revealed by whom he was ordained and when. He gives the ambiguous impression that he somehow has a mandate from the Roman Catholic Church, yet he has hardly proven this to be the case.
What happens on a small-scale level is every bit as important as the "big picture." In fact, if we cannot face honestly the deception in our own midst how can we possibly fight evil effectively on a large scale?
At the end of the day, when we stand before the White Throne of God, I suspect we will be asked how we treated people on an individual level before we will be asked "did we properly analyze large-scale policy developments?" This includes protecting those in our inner circle from deception.
It also includes reaching out personally to them in times of difficulty, not just asking for them to reach out lovingly to us (through prayer, for example), even and especially when to do so involves some sacrifice and is otherwise a "pain in the a*rse" we would rather not bother to interrupt our busy lives with.
Which leads me to one more question: Where is Doug in MI and SV? Both have mentioned health/family difficulties before. I wonder how they are.
Just my Two Cents.
The Tooth Fairy
Fr. Ashcraft,
In some places you have the term "OSB" after your name which in the Roman Catholic Church stands for "Order of St. Benedict."
http://independentmovement.us/index.php5?title=Current_Priest_A
Are you formally associated with the Roman Catholic Benedictine order and if so, in what capacity? If not, what does "OSB" mean after your name?
The Tooth Fairy
I love you too, Strong Bad! I suspect that like many of the other precious contributors here (Dorothy, JD, Susanna, Mariel, SV, Dave in BC, Rich Peterson, etc.) you also have a great love of the Truth.
Thanks for your vote of confidence.
The Tooth Fairy
Rudi,
I'm glad someone is paying attention!
SPIRITUAL WARFARE
For the non-Catholic Christians reading (and I know there are many), I wanted to mention that there ARE some Roman Catholic priests who are real exorcists. One of the most well-known is an American, Tom Euteneuer, former president of Human Life International. Fr. Euteneuer graduated at the top of his class at Quantico but cut short a promising career as an officer in the U.S. Marine Corps to become a Catholic priest.
He has recently published a book about exorcism. Here is more information about him:
http://www.hli.org/index.php/about/hli-president-fr-thomas-euteneuer/244?task=view
I would suggest that if anyone is in need of advice about demonic oppression/spiritual warfare from a Catholic perspective, they approach an established expert like Fr. Euteneuer, not someone with "dodgy" and "ambiguous" ties to the Roman Catholic Church. It is too serious a matter to play around with!
The Tooth Fairy
Constance,
I posted a link to a story about Sweden becoming a cashless society and there was no response.
So many thing swirl around EU activities it becomes hard to get aroused by each new manifestation of one world government.
I agree with Tooth Fairy. There are things that can affect us and what we accept on a day to day basis which often have a larger impact on our lives. For instance if one's health care provider starts pushing New Age alternative health ideas, it becomes more important to know what is going on than knowing what the latest thing the EU has brought about.
Both things are important but we have to decide how to use our time any given day. We have to decide what to expose and share with others.
Dorothy
Tooth Fairy,
Father Jose Antonio Fortea is another well-known Roman Catholic exorcist from Spain. I even have one of his books.
In Paraguay, one of his books outsold THE DA VINCI CODE!
Father Fortea is the "real deal."
FR. JOSE ANTONIO FORTEA
José Antonio Fortea Cucurull (born in Barbastro, Spain, 1968), priest and specialized theologian in Demonology. He studied Theology for his priesthood in the University of Navarre. He received the degree of licentiate (licenza) in the field of History of the Church at the faculty of Theology of Comillas. In 1998 he defended his thesis (tesina) entitled Exorcism in the Present Age under the direction of the Secretary of the Commission for the Doctrine of the Faith of the Spain Conference of Catholic Bishops.
He is a member of the clergy in the diocese of Alcalá de Henares (Madrid). He combines his work as a theologian with his activity as pastor of Saint Mary Magdalene Parish, in Anchuelo (Madrid).
Author of several books about Demonology, demonic possession and exorcism, every year he gives lectures in dioceses and universities around the World. He carries out his ministry of praying for persons who claim to be afflicted by the Devil in Our Lady of Zulema Parish in the diocese of Alcalá de Henares (Madrid, Spain). Because of the lack of exorcists, cases come all around the nation and other countries to his church and with a general permission of his bishop he prays for them.......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%
C3%A9_Antonio_Fortea
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The following is a May 11, 2005 interview with Father Fortea published by ZENIT:
EXORCIST ON SATAN NOT HAVING LAST WORD
http://www.zenit.org/article-12990?l=english
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SPECIALIZED CATHOLIC WEB ABOUT POSSESSION AND EXORCISM ( English language version)
http://www.fortea.us/english/index.htm
Susanna,
Thank you for that invaluable information on young Fr. Fortea!
I was perusing the forum he links to on his website and, interestingly, in one of the discussions our good "Fr. Ashcraft" is identified as a "FAKE PRIEST" (See thread entitled "Fake priest can't stay away"):
http://www.voy.com/160688/728.html
I don't know much about Jack Ashcraft apart from what I have read here at the blog, but the fact that a gentlemen as distinguished as Fr. Fortea (who is obviously both a scholar and a REAL priest!) links to a discussion forum where participants are issuing warnings about Jack Ashcraft does tend to cause me to sit up and notice!
The Tooth Fairy
Constance, Dorothy, Susanna, and anyone else interested.
Given the original theme of this thread, I thought I would post some things on the front of establishing global governance by the USA and EU. As many are now aware, I have been following the role that information and economic integration between global players is having on the landscape. As I have shown in my previous articles the EU and US have already agreed to integrate economies, information systems, and even military operations.
Most of this has been done through the Transatlantic Economic Council. Below you will find a link to documents showing how these players have agreed to uniform standards on Carbon Accounting Standards, e-mobility, Smartgrids, IPR Protection, financial market reform, privacy cloud computing, e-health records interoperability, nano-technology, etc.
The document Constance shared shows long term projections, with a projected finish date of 2025. Quietly regulations and integration measures are being put in place NOW! Below are some links that everyone interested in the subject should get familiar with.
http://tinyurl.com/24gselc
http://useu.usmission.gov/tec.html
http://tinyurl.com/28yfmjn
http://tinyurl.com/2ehck3t
http://tinyurl.com/3yluog2
Tooth Fairy,
Here is more on the illicitly ordained sedevacantist priest, the late Rama Coomaraswamy - a close associate of Bishop of Bishop Robert McKenna who was exposed by my friend the late Carrie Tomko for embracing and propogating the gnostic/pagan "perennialist philosophy while at the same time professing Roman Catholicism.
RAMA COOMARASWAMY
.....Coomaraswamy was involved with not only the Traditionalist Catholic movement, but also with Perennialism (also called "Traditionalism") whose main exponents were René Guénon, Ananda Coomaraswamy (Rama's father) and Frithjof Schuon. He was a member of the Foundation for Traditional Studies and was a regular contributor to the foundation's journal Sophia.
William Stoddart and Mateus Soares de Azevedo discuss Coomaraswamy's double involvement in an article for the Canadian journal Sacred Web (No. 18, 2007). The topic was also covered by a blogger, Carrie Tomko,[3] specializing in investigation of the occult infiltration of Catholicism, and picked up by, among others, J. Christopher Pryor, a Lefebvrist who operates the Perennialism LeFloch Report.[4] Interestingly, Rama Coomaraswamy had never broken away from Perennialism and propagating it, along with Frithjof Schuon and Coomaraswamy's own perennialist disciple, William H. Kennedy, even when he was associated with Lefebvre's seminary....read entire article...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama_
P._Coomaraswamy
RE: The "Fake Priest" postings. They were posted by people who were a Hellenistic pagan, a New Ager having a relationship with the pagan, and a man convicted of possession of child pornography; each of whom were upset with various topics of my radio program which exposed these various activities as evils. Amusingly enough, I am a member of the private clergy forum there. The bad part is that there has been no moderation there for some time now, so there is no process in place to check what is a clearcase of slander and libel. I did discuss theissue with an attorney who informed me of the cost to pursue legal action against the individuals who posted the slanderous lies, and the cost was way beyond my means. I've already told Constance about these false accusations against me, which sproute dup at the same time I publicly confronted Bob Larson. I believe there may have been a connection there as well, though I cannot prove that at this point. What is clear to me, and those associated with me, is that there has been a concerted effort to silence me by some nefarious sources for some time now. They include Evangelical televangelists, anti-Semites (recall that I left an anti-semitic movement when I became a Christian and thus, am a "race traitor"), rabidly anti-Catholic fundamentalists, pagans, New Agers, and a convicted child pornographer. So, you're free to accept the lies of that sordid cast of characters if you wish (like attracts like after all), but you're aligning yourself with the very forces you pretend to fight.
Fr. Ashcraft,
By whom were you ordained and when?
Do you have an endorsement for your work from Fr. Fortea or from your local Roman Catholic bishop?
When you refer to the "convicted child pornographer" are you referring to Bro. Ignatius Mary of the Legion of St. Michael, by any chance? If not, to whom are you referring?
The Tooth Fairy
BRO. IGNATIUS MARY
I want to clarify something about my earlier post. Bro. Ignatius Mary runs (or used to run) a small apostolate that deals with spiritual warfare.
I have never heard anything bad about Bro. Ignatius Mary, or anything to suggest he is not a devout and repentant Catholic who has struggled with his own "demons" (sin). Here, in his own words, is his comment about his criminal background:
Bro. Ignatius was charged on ten counts (ten pictures) of “possession”, not distribution, of child pornography. Only two of those pictures actually proved to be child pornography (of teenage girls). Thus, he plead guilty on those two counts, taking responsibility for his actions. This was accepted by the court
You can read more at his website:
http://www.saint-mike.org/detractors/?cat=30
Sorry, that post titled "BRO. IGNATIUS MARY" should have been signed by me.
The Tooth Fairy
Constance I think part of our seeming apathy is not unconcern as much as it is recognition of the fact that many of us are not surprised at documentation of what we all clearly see, expect, and understand to be happening. One world rule is hovering over us with its putrid breathe clearly recognizable. It is however very notable that it comes out 3 1/2 years after Solana "prepped" us for it. The man is just always there isn't he? The master of intrigue isn't just behind one closed door, but seemingly behind most closed doors! --Nkosazana
poo and wee
I concur with "Tooth Fairy" on his opinion of Fr. Euteneur. No great mystery on the Ashcraft/Ashcroft radio -- I have been suffering with a bad ear ailment for the past 2 1/2 weeks, not to mention FAR from finished unpacking from a chaotic move. (JD is my blog witness -- he has seen it up close!)
"Fr. A" and Dorothy were evidently communicating with each other about anti-Semitism on THEMICROEFFECT.COM and Fr. A. (whom I assumed to be a Greek Orthodox priest) volunteered here that because of the anti-Semitism which he concurred with Dorothy regarding, he would never go back to THEMICROEFFECT.com. He suggested he had much better alternatives for me. I suggested on line here that he try to call me which he did and one half hour into a long conversation, I noticed I was only an hour from air time and had no guest scheduled. I had once been interviewed by him on his radio program, and so I asked if he would like to return the favor and be my guest on very short notice.
The tenor of this conversation has gotten ugly. My biggest puzzle on the whole thing was a claim that Fr. Ashcraft's posts had been "deleted." I am the only one who can do that to the best of my present knowledge and I had not.
My interpretation of his calls to me were that he was unsuccessful in trying to post -- not that he posted and same was deleted.
That part puzzled me.
Toothfairy, I am neither perfect nor infallible and have never claimed to be. I have sometimes promoted people I later had to repent for doing so.
As I remember the scripture, "BUT IF YE BITE AND DEVOUR ONE ANOTHER . . ."
Bjorn has his deep faults and we have our deep disagreements, but the information he sometimes puts out is important. I don't know his full motives for doing so, "but for whatever motive they are preaching the gospel, still the gospel is being preached . . ."
I would respectfully, TOOTHFAIRY, to another big tactic of the New Agers,
D - I - V - E - R - S - I - O - N and I am suspicious whenever that occurs. Tempests in a teapot can sometimse be diversinoary, and LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT FAULT CAST THE FIRST STONE.
Are you, "Tooth Fairy," without fault? I, for one, am not and neither is anybody else of whom I am presently aware.
Constance
Constance,
I never claimed to be "without fault" and you know this. What you are doing here is using a legal rhetorical trick (surprise, surprise), trying to imply that I have no right to criticize you because I myself am imperfect.
Let's assume arguendo that your point is a valid one, and apply that same logic to an analogous situation and see what happens. Okay, here goes:
What right do YOU, Constance Cumbey, have to criticize Dave Hunt, or Paul N. Temple, or Eustace Mullins or Javier Solana? I mean, are YOU YOURSELF without fault?
Get real, Constance. I may be a fairy but I'm not stupid.
I have the right to criticize you, just as you have the right to criticize me. The mere levelling of a criticism, even when unwarranted or otherwise unfair, does NOT imply that the one from whom the criticism originates is in any way "perfect" or above criticism themselves.
The Tooth Fairy
Looks like Father Ashcraft has it right:
Hindus have applauded Pope Benedict for including verse from ancient Hindu scripture Upanishads in the Good Friday Meditations and Prayers led by him at Roman Colosseum.
Acclaimed Hindu statesman Rajan Zed, in a statement in Nevada (USA) today, said that it was a remarkable gesture from Pope and invited him to study more ancient Hindu scriptures, which were very rich in philosophical thought. He or other Hindu scholars would gladly provide the help and resources in this regard, if asked, Zed added.
Zed, who is president of Universal Society of Hinduism, also commended His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI for inclusion of a verse from India’s Nobel Laureate Rabindranath Tagore’s Gitanjali and reference to peace icon Mahatma Gandhi in these prayers.
This year’s “Way of the Cross at the Colesseum” Meditations and Prayers on Good Friday led by Pope, included well-known verse from Brahadaranyakopanishad ("Lead me from the unreal to the real, from darkness to light, from death to immortality."), line from Tagore’s Gitanjali ("Give me the strength to make my love fruitful in service."), and reference to Mahatma Gandhi.
Rajan Zed stressed that all religions should work together for a just and peaceful world. Dialogue would bring us mutual enrichment, he added.
Pope Benedict heads the Roman Catholic Church, which is the largest of the Christian denominations. Hinduism, oldest and third largest religion of the world, has about one billion adherents and moksha (liberation) is its ultimate goal.
http://www.indiancatholic.in/news/storydetails.php/11821-1-1-Hindus...
Anon 6:56, you seem to have a problem with poems being read at a Catholic religious service. What is the problem exactly? Did Pope Benedict say that Christians should start worshipping Ganesh and get ready to be reincarnated? I don't think so.
What denomination are you? And what exactly is your point about Pope Benedict? "Lead me from the unreal to the real, from darkness to light, from death to immortality." and "Give me the strength to make my love fruitful in service." are compatible with Christian doctrine. So is a lot of Plato's writing and he was a pagan now wasn't he?
Try some analysis here instead of innuendo. Oh wait, it's so much easier to scrape the bottom of the barrel and try to smear the Catholic Church now, isn't it?
Inuendo and gossip seem to be the method of determining how we treat people at this blog.So I thought that would fit right in. What? Now suddenly inuendo and gossip isnt good enough when we're not attacking a priest we disagree with? Huge double standard. I saw the garbage here from start to finish. not one single shre dof proof that Father Ashcraft did a single thing wrong but because someone spread gossip and inuendo this blog repeats it and its accepted as fact??? Either you people suffer from mental illness, your hateful by nature, or you have some kinda interest in shutting his message out. I took the time to look at Novus Ordo watch and that website puts verified facts out there that show the vatican is new age. So who is the real wolf in sheeps clothing? The priest exposing it and getting attacked for it, or the fruitloops attacking him? I see wolves all around this place.
"I see wolves all around this place."
And I see a fake priest whose been caught out by a group of smart cookies, heh heh.
Yeah you nuts think you found a 'fake priest" based on inuendo and gossip?? LMFAO! I looked at everything you fruitloops put up there and dont see a single piece of evidence, just inuendo, gossip, name calling and the typical internet libel. And then you deleted his posts when he tried to answer your stupid lies. LOL Someone here doesnt want the truth out. Looks like Satan works with you people as an ally not an adversary. I know you deleted his responses since I seen it myself. Nice try nutjobs. You people put satan to shame with your lies. You can play all these games you want, you can call a good priest names all day long, you can libel, slander, and lie but in the end hes right and you have one helluva judgement day coming when Jesus comes back. Hate to be in your shoes.
Loads of stuff here proving Father Ashcraft is right:
http://www.novusordowatch.org/
Looks like the Novi "Catholics" here went on a smear campaign against a REAL Catholic priest. Hardly surprising since they are of their father the devil.
I am a traditionalist and one year ago accepted the sede position myself. Fr. Ashcraft and priests like him are fast becoming the target of the Modernist heretics of the Novus Ordo for even attempting to take the message that the Vatican is apostate to the people here and elsewhere. Priests like him should be embraced and lauded by real Catholics. Instead they find themselves maligned and calumniated by Fundamentalists and their New Order Church counterparts who blindly accept the heretical blathering of the Vatican hijackers. Having met the Father myself on several ocassions I know him to be a kind, and caring priest. I attended two Masses over which he presided, and his genuine care for souls is evident in his demeanor. I am repulsed by the mob mentality and blind acceptance of what others have noted here as mere malicious gossip without any valid evidence to support the attacks. If Constance Cumbey, who I've liked as an author up to now, would do anything resembling Christian in this situation, she would delete the slander as someone deleted the good Father's responses. I'm not holding my breath though as charity, honesty and simply doing the right thing have been woefully absent from this website.
-M.L.
M.L.,
I don't think anyone here has stated or even implied that Jack Ashcraft doesn't have friends or admirers or that he is incapable of caring for people.
The implication that there is some kind of conspiracy afoot to silence Ashcraft on this blog is undermined by the very fact that defenders like yourself (who characterize Roman Catholics who believe Pope Benedict to be a real Pope as children of satan - nice Alinsky tactic!), are allowed to freely post. I may not agree with Mrs. Cumbey's approach on everything, but she does give "free speech" a pretty free reign at this blog.
There do appear to have been some initial technical problems with some of Ashcraft's posts, but that does not prevent him from contacting Mrs. Cumbey again via email with his responses to the questions about him that are outstanding, nor does it prevent him from creating a "Q and A" on another website which would clearly put the matters in dispute to rest.
The questions remain, however: by whom was Jack Ashcraft ordained and when? And further, is he associated formally with the Benedictine Order, as the use of the initials "OSB" after his name implies? Does he have formal endorsement from respected exorcists and Roman Catholic Priests such as Fr. Euteneuer or Fr. Fortea?
Finally, as Susanna (who is not by any stretch of the imagination a "Novi Catholic") has meticulously documented, there are many Sedevacantist sects/denominations. Of which one are you a member?
The Tooth Fairy
Yes, we have been allowed to freely post, but Fr. Ashcraft (your impertinence in refering to him as you do is noted) has not. I and others here have noted that his posts addressing your questions were deleted almost immediately after they were made. We witnessed this ourselves. I have no reason to lie, nor would I lie for Fr. Ashcraft or anyone else. I will state what I saw though and I as well as others here saw those posts deleted. Someone here isn't being honest and it appears to us that someone (whoever deleted his responses) has some interest in making him the center of a web of deceit designed to malign his character.It is interesting that it is the same exact lies from the same exact forum being resurrected again. Very suspicious.
First he was attacked about his forum. He provided evidence to refute the scandalous claims of his being an occultist, and he was still attacked on that same basis. Even one of those of us defending him here was accused of being someone who goes to "channelers". For the record, Fr. Ashcraft is not a Benedictine. He is a member of the Order of St. Basil, though to be clear it is a branch NOT in union with the Novus Ordo (read New Age) Vatican heirarchy. So your friendly neighborhood Novi heretics here won't be too happy with that and no doubt will use it as just another platform for abusing his reputation.(And heretics they are! Simply do the research and it is easy to see. The Post Vatican II heirarchy and theology are patented Tielhardism!)That order also uses OSB.
I have seen his ordaining bishop once (it was maybe 15 years ago) and I don't honestly recall his name. My memory isn't what it once was, as I'm not a spring chicken.
Now with respect to Euteneur and Fortea, THEY are not valid Catholic priests as there is serious defect in the Novus Ordo ordination rite which calls them into question. Aside from that, why would any traditionalist priest (even more a sedevacantist) even want the endorsement of heretics? I note that Fr.Ashcraft states he is a member of the private clergy forum there but never did he imply he was given the "stamp of approval" from Fortea. I seriously doubt he would want the support of heretics.
Asking questions is fine; attacking a priest on the basis of what is simply gossip and backbiting from Fr. Ashcraft's New Age and Occult foes is just reprehensible-even more so for people who think themselves Christian!
My particular parish isn't an issue here, so I don't feel the need to address that. I do however attend an SSPX mass at the moment since that is the only valid mass in my area. If Fr.Ashcraft were in my area I would not hesitate to attend his parish since I know him to be a good priest, staunch Catholic, and determined foe of the New Age, One Worlders and Novus Ordo heresy.
- M.L.
M.L.,
Thank you for your response.
First of all, since I have never heard of any "Order of St. Basil" that is not in full communion with Rome, I would not be in a position to be either "happy" or "unhappy" about it. It does seem curious, however, that a group that wants to clearly distinguisitself as NOT being communion with Rome would adopt an acronym that is so closely identified with a very important Roman Catholic monastic order - the acronym "OSB." Using such an acronym fosters ambiguity, not clarity, which (and I'm sure you appreciate this) is not part of Catholic tradition.
As regards Ashcraft's ordaining bishop - if Ashcraft has nothing to hide, and was validly ordained as a Roman Catholic priest, this information should be available freely on the internet. Your claims that those who question his credentials are spreading lies to damage his reputation and have diabolical motivations for doing so is fatally undermined by the fact that--at least from what I can see online--Ashcraft has offered nothing to refute said "slanderous" criticisms.
This could all be cleared up very easily if Ashcraft would respond specifically and directly to the rumours about him with facts, evidence, and explanations. This is exactly what Brother Ignatius Mary did on his own website when he found himself the subject of an internet attack.
As regards Fr. Fortea and Fr. Euteneuer -- it was Ashcraft himself who, on this very thread, invoked young Fr. Fortea's name in order to elevate his own reputation:
I am in good company with Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Fr. Antonio Fortea, and others.
If Ashcraft believes Fr. Fortea is neither priest nor a real Roman Catholic, why does he refer to him as "Fr."? And why does he put himself in the same company as Fr. Amorth and Fr. Fortea? If he believes these men are heretics, shouldn't he be seeking to DISTANCE himself from them?
Once again, if Ashcraft would simply address these issues point by point and email them to Mrs. Cumbey, I am sure she would be gracious enough to post them here for all to see, just as she did with his previous mail.
When you consider all the above points taken together you can see what a house of cards Ashcraft has built for himself and why I and many others here find him evasive and untrustworthy.
The Tooth Fairy
M.L.,
Thank you for your response.
First of all, since I have never heard of any "Order of St. Basil" that is not in full communion with Rome, I would not be in a position to be either "happy" or "unhappy" about it. It does seem curious, however, that a group that wants to clearly distinguish itself as NOT being in communion with Rome would adopt an acronym that is so closely identified with a very important Roman Catholic monastic order - the acronym "OSB." Using such an acronym fosters ambiguity, not clarity, which (and I'm sure you appreciate this) is not part of Catholic tradition.
As regards Jack Ashcraft's ordaining bishop - if Ashcraft has nothing to hide, and was validly ordained as a Roman Catholic priest, this information should be available freely on the internet. Your claim that those who question his credentials are spreading lies to damage his reputation and have diabolical motivations for doing so is fatally undermined by the fact that--at least from what I can see online--Ashcraft has offered nothing to refute said "slanderous" criticisms.
This could all be cleared up very easily if Ashcraft would respond specifically and directly to the rumours about him with facts, evidence, and explanations. This is exactly what Brother Ignatius Mary did on his own website when he found himself the subject of an internet attack.
As regards Fr. Fortea and Fr. Euteneuer -- it was Ashcraft himself who, on this very thread, invoked young Fr. Fortea's name in order to elevate his own reputation:
I am in good company with Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Fr. Antonio Fortea, and others.
Another thing I find puzzling: If Ashcraft believes Fr. Fortea is neither priest nor a real Roman Catholic, why does he refer to him as "Fr."? And why does he put himself in the same company as Fr. Amorth and Fr. Fortea? If he believes these men are heretics, shouldn't he be seeking to DISTANCE himself from them?
Once again, if Ashcraft would simply address these issues point by point and email them to Mrs. Cumbey, I am sure she would be gracious enough to post them here for all to see, just as she did with his previous mail.
When you consider all the above points taken together you can see what a house of cards Jack Ashcraft has built for himself and why I and many others here find him evasive and untrustworthy.
The Tooth Fairy
M.L.,
Thank you for your response.
First of all, since I have never heard of any "Order of St. Basil" that is not in full communion with Rome, I would not be in a position to be either "happy" or "unhappy" about it. It does seem curious, however, that a group that wants to clearly distinguish itself as NOT being in communion with Rome would adopt an acronym that is so closely identified with a very important Roman Catholic monastic order - the acronym "OSB." Using such an acronym fosters ambiguity, not clarity, which (and I'm sure you appreciate this) is not part of Catholic tradition.
As regards Jack Ashcraft's ordaining bishop - if Ashcraft has nothing to hide, and was validly ordained as a Roman Catholic priest, this information should be available freely on the internet. Your claim that those who question his credentials are spreading lies to damage his reputation and have diabolical motivations for doing so is fatally undermined by the fact that--at least from what I can see online--Ashcraft has offered nothing to refute said "slanderous" criticisms.
This could all be cleared up very easily if Ashcraft would respond specifically and directly to the rumours about him with facts, evidence, and explanations. This is exactly what Brother Ignatius Mary did on his own website when he found himself the subject of an internet attack.
As regards Fr. Fortea and Fr. Euteneuer -- it was Ashcraft himself who, on this very thread, invoked young Fr. Fortea's name in order to elevate his own reputation:
I am in good company with Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Fr. Antonio Fortea, and others.
Another thing I find puzzling: If Ashcraft believes Fr. Fortea is neither priest nor a real Roman Catholic, why does he refer to him as "Fr."? And why does he put himself in the same company as Fr. Amorth and Fr. Fortea? If he believes these men are heretics, shouldn't he be seeking to DISTANCE himself from them?
Once again, if Ashcraft would simply address these issues point by point and email them to Mrs. Cumbey, I am sure she would be gracious enough to post them here for all to see, just as she did with his previous mail.
When you consider all the above points taken together you can see what a house of cards Jack Ashcraft has built for himself and why I and many others here find him evasive and untrustworthy.
The Tooth Fairy
M.L.,
Thank you for your response.
First of all, since I have never heard of any "Order of St. Basil" that is not in full communion with Rome, I would not be in a position to be either "happy" or "unhappy" about it. It does seem curious, however, that a group that wants to clearly distinguish itself as NOT being in communion with Rome would adopt an acronym that is so closely identified with a very important Roman Catholic monastic order - the acronym "OSB." Using such an acronym fosters ambiguity, not clarity, which (and I'm sure you appreciate this) is not part of Catholic tradition.
As regards Jack Ashcraft's ordaining bishop - if Ashcraft has nothing to hide, and was validly ordained as a Roman Catholic priest, this information should be available freely on the internet. Your claim that those who question his credentials are spreading lies to damage his reputation and have diabolical motivations for doing so is fatally undermined by the fact that--at least from what I can see online--Ashcraft has offered nothing to refute said "slanderous" criticisms.
This could all be cleared up very easily if Ashcraft would respond specifically and directly to the rumours about him with facts, evidence, and explanations. This is exactly what Brother Ignatius Mary did on his own website when he found himself the subject of an internet attack.
As regards Fr. Fortea and Fr. Euteneuer -- it was Ashcraft himself who, on this very thread, invoked young Fr. Fortea's name in order to elevate his own reputation:
I am in good company with Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Fr. Antonio Fortea, and others.
Another thing I find puzzling: If Ashcraft believes Fr. Fortea is neither priest nor a real Roman Catholic, why does he refer to him as "Fr."? And why does he put himself in the same company as Fr. Amorth and Fr. Fortea? If he believes these men are heretics, shouldn't he be seeking to DISTANCE himself from them?
Once again, if Ashcraft would simply address these issues point by point and email them to Mrs. Cumbey, I am sure she would be gracious enough to post them here for all to see, just as she did with his previous mail.
When you consider all the above points taken together you can see what a house of cards Jack Ashcraft has built for himself and why I and many others here find him evasive and untrustworthy.
The Tooth Fairy
M.L.,
Thank you for your response.
First of all, since I have never heard of any "Order of St. Basil" that is not in full communion with Rome, I would not be in a position to be either "happy" or "unhappy" about it. It does seem curious, however, that a group that wants to clearly distinguish itself as NOT being in communion with Rome would adopt an acronym that is so closely identified with a very important Roman Catholic monastic order - the acronym "OSB." Using such an acronym fosters ambiguity, not clarity, which (and I'm sure you appreciate this) is not part of Catholic tradition.
As regards Jack Ashcraft's ordaining bishop - if Ashcraft has nothing to hide, and was validly ordained as a Roman Catholic priest, this information should be available freely on the internet. Your claim that those who question his credentials are spreading lies to damage his reputation and have diabolical motivations for doing so is fatally undermined by the fact that--at least from what I can see online--Ashcraft has offered nothing to refute said "slanderous" criticisms.
This could all be cleared up very easily if Ashcraft would respond specifically and directly to the rumours about him with facts, evidence, and explanations. This is exactly what Brother Ignatius Mary did on his own website when he found himself the subject of an internet attack.
As regards Fr. Fortea and Fr. Euteneuer -- it was Ashcraft himself who, on this very thread, invoked young Fr. Fortea's name in order to elevate his own reputation:
I am in good company with Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Fr. Antonio Fortea, and others.
Another thing I find puzzling: If Ashcraft believes Fr. Fortea is neither priest nor a real Roman Catholic, why does he refer to him as "Fr."? And why does he put himself in the same company as Fr. Amorth and Fr. Fortea? If he believes these men are heretics, shouldn't he be seeking to DISTANCE himself from them?
Once again, if Ashcraft would simply address these issues point by point and email them to Mrs. Cumbey, I am sure she would be gracious enough to post them here for all to see, just as she did with his previous mail.
When you consider all the above points taken together you can see what a house of cards Jack Ashcraft has built for himself and why I and many others here find him evasive and untrustworthy.
The Tooth Fairy
M.L.,
Thank you for your response.
First of all, since I have never heard of any "Order of St. Basil" that is not in full communion with Rome, I would not be in a position to be either "happy" or "unhappy" about it. It does seem curious, however, that a group that wants to clearly distinguish itself as NOT being in communion with Rome would adopt an acronym that is so closely identified with a very important Roman Catholic monastic order - the acronym "OSB." Using such an acronym fosters ambiguity, not clarity, which (and I'm sure you appreciate this) is not part of Catholic tradition.
As regards Jack Ashcraft's ordaining bishop - if Ashcraft has nothing to hide, and was validly ordained as a Roman Catholic priest, this information should be available freely on the internet. Your claim that those who question his credentials are spreading lies to damage his reputation and have diabolical motivations for doing so is fatally undermined by the fact that--at least from what I can see online--Ashcraft has offered nothing to refute said "slanderous" criticisms.
This could all be cleared up very easily if Ashcraft would respond specifically and directly to the rumours about him with facts, evidence, and explanations. This is exactly what Brother Ignatius Mary did on his own website when he found himself the subject of an internet attack.
As regards Fr. Fortea and Fr. Euteneuer -- it was Ashcraft himself who, on this very thread, invoked young Fr. Fortea's name in order to elevate his own reputation:
I am in good company with Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Fr. Antonio Fortea, and others.
Another thing I find puzzling: If Ashcraft believes Fr. Fortea is neither priest nor a real Roman Catholic, why does he refer to him as "Fr."? And why does he put himself in the same company as Fr. Amorth and Fr. Fortea? If he believes these men are heretics, shouldn't he be seeking to DISTANCE himself from them?
Once again, if Ashcraft would simply address these issues point by point and email them to Mrs. Cumbey, I am sure she would be gracious enough to post them here for all to see, just as she did with his previous mail.
When you consider all the above points taken together you can see what a house of cards Jack Ashcraft has built for himself and why I and many others here find him evasive and untrustworthy.
The Tooth Fairy
M.L.,
Thank you for your response.
First of all, since I have never heard of any "Order of St. Basil" that is not in full communion with Rome, I would not be in a position to be either "happy" or "unhappy" about it. It does seem curious, however, that a group that wants to clearly distinguish itself as NOT being in communion with Rome would adopt an acronym that is so closely identified with a very important Roman Catholic monastic order - the acronym "OSB." Using such an acronym fosters ambiguity, not clarity, which (and I'm sure you appreciate this) is not part of Catholic tradition.
As regards Jack Ashcraft's ordaining bishop - if Ashcraft has nothing to hide, and was validly ordained as a Roman Catholic priest, this information should be available freely on the internet. Your claim that those who question his credentials are spreading lies to damage his reputation and have diabolical motivations for doing so is fatally undermined by the fact that--at least from what I can see online--Ashcraft has offered nothing to refute said "slanderous" criticisms.
This could all be cleared up very easily if Ashcraft would respond specifically and directly to the rumours about him with facts, evidence, and explanations. This is exactly what Brother Ignatius Mary did on his own website when he found himself the subject of an internet attack.
As regards Fr. Fortea and Fr. Euteneuer -- it was Ashcraft himself who, on this very thread, invoked young Fr. Fortea's name in order to elevate his own reputation:
I am in good company with Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Fr. Antonio Fortea, and others.
Another thing I find puzzling: If Ashcraft believes Fr. Fortea is neither priest nor a real Roman Catholic, why does he refer to him as "Fr."? And why does he put himself in the same company as Fr. Amorth and Fr. Fortea? If he believes these men are heretics, shouldn't he be seeking to DISTANCE himself from them?
Once again, if Ashcraft would simply address these issues point by point and email them to Mrs. Cumbey, I am sure she would be gracious enough to post them here for all to see, just as she did with his previous mail.
When you consider all the above points taken together you can see what a house of cards Jack Ashcraft has built for himself and why I and many others here find him evasive and untrustworthy.
The Tooth Fairy
M.L.,
Thank you for your response.
First of all, since I have never heard of any "Order of St. Basil" that is not in full communion with Rome, I would not be in a position to be either "happy" or "unhappy" about it. It does seem curious, however, that a group that wants to clearly distinguish itself as NOT being in communion with Rome would adopt an acronym that is so closely identified with a very important Roman Catholic monastic order - the acronym "OSB." Using such an acronym fosters ambiguity, not clarity, which (and I'm sure you appreciate this) is not part of Catholic tradition.
As regards Jack Ashcraft's ordaining bishop - if Ashcraft has nothing to hide, and was validly ordained as a Roman Catholic priest, this information should be available freely on the internet. Your claim that those who question his credentials are spreading lies to damage his reputation and have diabolical motivations for doing so is fatally undermined by the fact that--at least from what I can see online--Ashcraft has offered nothing to refute said "slanderous" criticisms.
This could all be cleared up very easily if Ashcraft would respond specifically and directly to the rumours about him with facts, evidence, and explanations. This is exactly what Brother Ignatius Mary did on his own website when he found himself the subject of an internet attack.
As regards Fr. Fortea and Fr. Euteneuer -- it was Ashcraft himself who, on this very thread, invoked young Fr. Fortea's name in order to elevate his own reputation:
I am in good company with Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Fr. Antonio Fortea, and others.
Another thing I find puzzling: If Ashcraft believes Fr. Fortea is neither priest nor a real Roman Catholic, why does he refer to him as "Fr."? And why does he put himself in the same company as Fr. Amorth and Fr. Fortea? If he believes these men are heretics, shouldn't he be seeking to DISTANCE himself from them?
Once again, if Ashcraft would simply address these issues point by point and email them to Mrs. Cumbey, I am sure she would be gracious enough to post them here for all to see, just as she did with his previous mail.
When you consider all the above points taken together you can see what a house of cards Jack Ashcraft has built for himself and why I and many others here find him evasive and untrustworthy.
The Tooth Fairy
M.L.,
Thank you for your response.
First of all, since I have never heard of any "Order of St. Basil" that is not in full communion with Rome, I would not be in a position to be either "happy" or "unhappy" about it. It does seem curious, however, that a group that wants to clearly distinguish itself as NOT being in communion with Rome would adopt an acronym that is so closely identified with a very important Roman Catholic monastic order - the acronym "OSB." Using such an acronym fosters ambiguity, not clarity, which (and I'm sure you appreciate this) is not part of Catholic tradition.
As regards Jack Ashcraft's ordaining bishop - if Ashcraft has nothing to hide, and was validly ordained as a Roman Catholic priest, this information should be available freely on the internet. Your claim that those who question his credentials are spreading lies to damage his reputation and have diabolical motivations for doing so is fatally undermined by the fact that--at least from what I can see online--Ashcraft has offered nothing to refute said "slanderous" criticisms.
This could all be cleared up very easily if Ashcraft would respond specifically and directly to the rumours about him with facts, evidence, and explanations. This is exactly what Brother Ignatius Mary did on his own website when he found himself the subject of an internet attack.
As regards Fr. Fortea and Fr. Euteneuer -- it was Ashcraft himself who, on this very thread, invoked young Fr. Fortea's name in order to elevate his own reputation:
I am in good company with Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Fr. Antonio Fortea, and others.
Another thing I find puzzling: If Ashcraft believes Fr. Fortea is neither priest nor a real Roman Catholic, why does he refer to him as "Fr."? And why does he put himself in the same company as Fr. Amorth and Fr. Fortea? If he believes these men are heretics, shouldn't he be seeking to DISTANCE himself from them?
Once again, if Ashcraft would simply address these issues point by point and email them to Mrs. Cumbey, I am sure she would be gracious enough to post them here for all to see, just as she did with his previous mail.
When you consider all the above points taken together you can see what a house of cards Jack Ashcraft has built for himself and why I and many others here find him evasive and untrustworthy.
The Tooth Fairy
M.L.,
Thank you for your response.
First of all, since I have never heard of any "Order of St. Basil" that is not in full communion with Rome, I would not be in a position to be either "happy" or "unhappy" about it. It does seem curious, however, that a group that wants to clearly distinguish itself as NOT being in communion with Rome would adopt an acronym that is so closely identified with a very important Roman Catholic monastic order - the acronym "OSB." Using such an acronym fosters ambiguity, not clarity, which (and I'm sure you appreciate this) is not part of Catholic tradition.
As regards Jack Ashcraft's ordaining bishop - if Ashcraft has nothing to hide, and was validly ordained as a Roman Catholic priest, this information should be available freely on the internet. Your claim that those who question his credentials are spreading lies to damage his reputation and have diabolical motivations for doing so is fatally undermined by the fact that--at least from what I can see online--Ashcraft has offered nothing to refute said "slanderous" criticisms.
This could all be cleared up very easily if Ashcraft would respond specifically and directly to the rumours about him with facts, evidence, and explanations. This is exactly what Brother Ignatius Mary did on his own website when he found himself the subject of an internet attack.
As regards Fr. Fortea and Fr. Euteneuer -- it was Ashcraft himself who, on this very thread, invoked young Fr. Fortea's name in order to elevate his own reputation:
I am in good company with Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Fr. Antonio Fortea, and others.
Another thing I find puzzling: If Ashcraft believes Fr. Fortea is neither priest nor a real Roman Catholic, why does he refer to him as "Fr."? And why does he put himself in the same company as Fr. Amorth and Fr. Fortea? If he believes these men are heretics, shouldn't he be seeking to DISTANCE himself from them?
Once again, if Ashcraft would simply address these issues point by point and email them to Mrs. Cumbey, I am sure she would be gracious enough to post them here for all to see, just as she did with his previous mail.
When you consider all the above points taken together you can see what a house of cards Jack Ashcraft has built for himself and why I and many others here find him evasive and untrustworthy.
The Tooth Fairy
M.L.,
Thank you for your response.
First of all, since I have never heard of any "Order of St. Basil" that is not in full communion with Rome, I would not be in a position to be either "happy" or "unhappy" about it. It does seem curious, however, that a group that wants to clearly distinguish itself as NOT being in communion with Rome would adopt an acronym that is so closely identified with a very important Roman Catholic monastic order - the acronym "OSB." Using such an acronym fosters ambiguity, not clarity, which (and I'm sure you appreciate this) is not part of Catholic tradition.
As regards Jack Ashcraft's ordaining bishop - if Ashcraft has nothing to hide, and was validly ordained as a Roman Catholic priest, this information should be available freely on the internet. Your claim that those who question his credentials are spreading lies to damage his reputation and have diabolical motivations for doing so is fatally undermined by the fact that--at least from what I can see online--Ashcraft has offered nothing to refute said "slanderous" criticisms.
This could all be cleared up very easily if Ashcraft would respond specifically and directly to the rumours about him with facts, evidence, and explanations. This is exactly what Brother Ignatius Mary did on his own website when he found himself the subject of an internet attack.
As regards Fr. Fortea and Fr. Euteneuer -- it was Ashcraft himself who, on this very thread, invoked young Fr. Fortea's name in order to elevate his own reputation:
I am in good company with Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Fr. Antonio Fortea, and others.
Another thing I find puzzling: If Ashcraft believes Fr. Fortea is neither priest nor a real Roman Catholic, why does he refer to him as "Fr."? And why does he put himself in the same company as Fr. Amorth and Fr. Fortea? If he believes these men are heretics, shouldn't he be seeking to DISTANCE himself from them?
Once again, if Ashcraft would simply address these issues point by point and email them to Mrs. Cumbey, I am sure she would be gracious enough to post them here for all to see, just as she did with his previous mail.
When you consider all the above points taken together you can see what a house of cards Jack Ashcraft has built for himself and why I and many others here find him evasive and untrustworthy.
The Tooth Fairy
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M.L.,
Thank you for your response.
First of all, since I have never heard of any "Order of St. Basil" that is not in full communion with Rome, I would not be in a position to be either "happy" or "unhappy" about it. It does seem curious, however, that a group that wants to clearly distinguish itself as NOT being in communion with Rome would adopt an acronym that is so closely identified with a very important Roman Catholic monastic order - the acronym "OSB." Using such an acronym fosters ambiguity, not clarity, which (and I'm sure you appreciate this) is not part of Catholic tradition.
As regards Jack Ashcraft's ordaining bishop - if Ashcraft has nothing to hide, and was validly ordained as a Roman Catholic priest, this information should be available freely on the internet. Your claim that those who question his credentials are spreading lies to damage his reputation and have diabolical motivations for doing so is fatally undermined by the fact that--at least from what I can see online--Ashcraft has offered nothing to refute said "slanderous" criticisms.
This could all be cleared up very easily if Ashcraft would respond specifically and directly to the rumours about him with facts, evidence, and explanations. This is exactly what Brother Ignatius Mary did on his own website when he found himself the subject of an internet attack.
As regards Fr. Fortea and Fr. Euteneuer -- it was Ashcraft himself who, on this very thread, invoked young Fr. Fortea's name in order to elevate his own reputation:
I am in good company with Fr. Malachi Martin, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, Fr. Antonio Fortea, and others.
Another thing I find puzzling: If Ashcraft believes Fr. Fortea is neither priest nor a real Roman Catholic, why does he refer to him as "Fr."? And why does he put himself in the same company as Fr. Amorth and Fr. Fortea? If he believes these men are heretics, shouldn't he be seeking to DISTANCE himself from them?
Once again, if Ashcraft would simply address these issues point by point and email them to Mrs. Cumbey, I am sure she would be gracious enough to post them here for all to see, just as she did with his previous mail.
When you consider all the above points taken together you can see what a house of cards Jack Ashcraft has built for himself and why I and many others here find him evasive and untrustworthy.
The Tooth Fairy
Fr. Ashcraft (again I note your impertinence that is part and parcel of internet slander and gossip!)did not "create" the Order of St. Basil, nor did the traditionalist sedevacantist movement. If you had attempted to use those incredible research skills I hear so much about on this blog (and which seem to extend no further than to dubious forum postings filled with inuendo and what is no doubt legally libelous) you would have found that the Order is quite old. It is also known as the Order of St. Basil the Great and sometimes under the initials "OSBM" and "OSB". Fr.Ashcraft has always been clear that he is not a Benedictine. The fact that you and your cronies here don't know that doesn't make him evasive. It simply makes you ignorant of the various religious orders. Again, would you continue to attempt responses at a forum where your posts were deleted and the posters were clearly intent on spreading gossip? I wouldn't. I and others saw that even after he started trying to respond he was STILL attacked. Example; the forum. Even though he provided evidence that he had no knowledge of the "sponsor" and complained about it he was still attacked about the forum. Even those of us who know him and defend him were accused of being involved in channeling or accused of being him posting under fake names. Its sick the spirit of accusation and slander here! You people are just hateful. No, truth isn't the goal. I sincerely believe malicious gossip is the passion here.
Fr. Ashcraft has never claimed to be a Roman Catholic priest. Not even once. Or did you miss that through the posts that were allowed to remain here? He is a Byzantine Catholic priest. That is, a priest of the Byzantine (Eastern) Rite, with its own liturgy, its own rubrics, its own canon law, etc. Why would he need to answer the accusation of not being a Roman Catholic priest when he has always been clear that he is a Byzantine Catholic priest? Just a bit of reading comprehension would be nice. Or is that out of line to expect where the sin of malicious gossip prevails unabated?
He has responded to all of these old tired lies in the past. He attempted to do that here and, as several of us saw, his posts were deleted. You can claim all day long they weren't, but we saw them! Lying isn't going to make that any different. You have no proof of the slanderous accusations since it is lies from start to finish. Since it doesn't start on a foundation of fact, all of your accusations (they have never been couched as mere questions, and even when they were, it was in the context of accusation!)are based entirely on gossip. Since that is clearly the case you must face the fact that you are simply spreading gossip and malicious slander. A fact which I'm sure has escaped the members of this blog. Cumbey included. For all of the Christian posturing here I see little evidence of the fruits of the faith.
It is sickening that you would even invoke Collete's fake religious name. He is not a brother. He isn't even recognized by his local Novus Ordo ordinary. Don't believe me? Make the phone call yourself and find out. He didn't tell anyone the truth about that or his CHILD PORNOGRAPHY convictions until he was exposed for attacking others on various forums. I recently took a good look at the information on him. Funny that he was claiming to offer ministry, sex addiction counseling, etc. several years before his conviction. He has no standing as a religious with his Novus Ordo diocese or bishop whatsoever. Hardly a reliable or trustworthy source of information for anything.But hey, if you want to place yourself in the same group as a child pornographer have at it!
(see next posting for the rest)
I'm guessing you aren't aware of the fact that there are traditionalist Benedictines, Franciscans, Carmelites, etc. The Novus Ordo doesnt own the "copyright" on these orders. They are Roman Catholic orders, not Novus Ordo groups. So your logic is a bit odd. The fact is that the Order of St. Basil has been around for a VERY long time in various rites of the Church, both Eastern and Western, and has used "OSMB" and "OSB" depending on the particular rite. The fact that you arent aware of that doesnt make it ambiguous or unclear, it just reveals your ignorance of religious orders. Do you know how many varieties of Franciscans there are out there and the identical OFM usage? So your comment is ignorant or disingenuous in my opinion.
Regarding your claim that Fr.Ashcraft needs to verify he's a Roman Catholic priest, when did he ever claim he was Roman Catholic? Never! He has always been clear he is Byzantine Catholic. It was you and your cohorts here who leveled that assertion against him. How could he even try to answer that when he's never claimed it and didnt either. And get real TF-not every darned priest has a website listing his bishop and a line of succession. Thats just nuts. And like I said I saw his bishop. He's a Byzantine Catholic bishop and lives in Europe, that much I remember.
Fr.Ashcraft answered all these tired old lies when they first surfaced almost two years ago.The fact that you werent there to see them doesnt mean he evaded them. And several of us here know for a fact that Fr.Ashcraft attempted to answer these lies yet again and his posts were DELETED! We saw the posts there and then they were removed. No getting around that fact. So that lame "evasion" line is just that-lame!
Like I said I cant speak for Fr.Ashcraft but why the heck would he even try to come back here and answer the same lies over and over again especially when his posts were deleted when he first tried to. I mean he was treated like garbage from the word go. First the claim was he MUST be an occultist because of that thing on the free network that he had nothing to do with and no control over. When he gave evidence that he had tried to address that before you even knew the thing existed it still wasnt enough! He was still attacked on that and even someone who posted to support him was accused of being involved in channeling. Does all of that really send the message that truth is what is sought after? Not to me. Not to anyone with half a brain.
I'm guessing you aren't aware of the fact that there are traditionalist Benedictines, Franciscans, Carmelites, etc. The Novus Ordo doesnt own the "copyright" on these orders. They are Roman Catholic orders, not Novus Ordo groups. So your logic is a bit odd. The fact is that the Order of St. Basil has been around for a VERY long time in various rites of the Church, both Eastern and Western, and has used "OSMB" and "OSB" depending on the particular rite. The fact that you arent aware of that doesnt make it ambiguous or unclear, it just reveals your ignorance of religious orders. Do you know how many varieties of Franciscans there are out there and the identical OFM usage? So your comment is ignorant or disingenuous in my opinion.
Regarding your claim that Fr.Ashcraft needs to verify he's a Roman Catholic priest, when did he ever claim he was Roman Catholic? Never! He has always been clear he is Byzantine Catholic. It was you and your cohorts here who leveled that assertion against him. How could he even try to answer that when he's never claimed it and didnt either. And get real TF-not every darned priest has a website listing his bishop and a line of succession. Thats just nuts. And like I said I saw his bishop. He's a Byzantine Catholic bishop and lives in Europe, that much I remember.
Fr.Ashcraft answered all these tired old lies when they first surfaced almost two years ago.The fact that you werent there to see them doesnt mean he evaded them. And several of us here know for a fact that Fr.Ashcraft attempted to answer these lies yet again and his posts were DELETED! We saw the posts there and then they were removed. No getting around that fact. So that lame "evasion" line is just that-lame!
Like I said I cant speak for Fr.Ashcraft but why the heck would he even try to come back here and answer the same lies over and over again especially when his posts were deleted when he first tried to. I mean he was treated like garbage from the word go. First the claim was he MUST be an occultist because of that thing on the free network that he had nothing to do with and no control over. When he gave evidence that he had tried to address that before you even knew the thing existed it still wasnt enough! He was still attacked on that and even someone who posted to support him was accused of being involved in channeling. Does all of that really send the message that truth is what is sought after? Not to me. Not to anyone with half a brain.
Your comment (yet another accusation) that Fr.Ashcraft invoked Fortea to boost his own ego or whatever is more evidence of slander. You completely ripped that statement from its context which was that he was actually attacked for exercising his priestly ministry in exorcism. The insinuation was that we should have known he was an occultist because of that. Never mind how just plain stupid that idea is for the moment. The thrust of Fr.Ashcrafts comment was that if he is somehow an occultist or nut for exercising his priestly ministry, then so are these men. The fact that he called Fortea "Father" in my opinion was good. He showed respect even though he doesnt accept their validity (my words not his remember). And also in the context of the conversation he's dealing with Novus Ordo adherents who look to these men as leaders, so again it is pointing out that if he is an occultist for doing this, then so are your leaders. And he said he was invited to the clergy forum there. What better place to spread the word of the real faith than right there! Thats how other Novus Ordo priests and bishops came out of it, like Bishop Mendez who realized the error of the Novus Ordo.
I want to address that "brother" Ignatius stuff. He is not a brother even by Novus Ordo standards. He has no standing with the local ordinary or his diocese. Dont believe me? Call. I did. He's as legit as anyone else who wants to put on a bath robe and assume the name Brother Billy Bob. He didnt come clean about his convictions for CHILD PORNOGRAPHY until AFTER he was exposed for it and had no choice. Hardly a source of moral fiber.
The fact is that Fr.Ashcraft was attacked by a bunch of self proclaimed pagans, a New Ager and a child pornographer for his staunch traditionalist positions on issues of faith. They posted under fake names at an unmoderated forum where they knew they could get away with it. The goal was to slander him and they did. He answered it back then (on his old website that is long gone). Im sure he figures like I do that this kind of gossip is hardly worth getting into all over again. I dont blame him if so. There was no evidence of these stupid lies then and there isnt now. In truth there is nothing to answer or refute. Not one fact at all. And as I said before he did try to give you people answers but his responses were deleted. Dont try to hand me any bull that they werent because we saw it happen. You people put yourselves firmly in the camp of the very people you claim to work against. Pagans, New Agers and the morally corrupt. And after being on Cumbeys show you can add anti-Semites and Neo-Nazis to that list. What great sources and associates you people have surrounded yourselves with. Sometimes we're known by our enemies. Since these are Fr.Ashcrafts enemies he must be doing something right. Satan doesnt work this hard against his own. This is what happens to good priests who fight the lies of Satan.Christ and Truth dont reign here. Gossip, slander and hate do. I'll pray for your salvation.
The first part of my response was deleted. Im done. Now Im not even allowed to post. What a joke.
Wow..everything was deleted now. You people amaze me.The dishonesty is just amazing.
All my posts were deleted for an entire day, so don't think you are that special.
The Tooth Fairy
Well I just found this blog from another one. I've read all of the posts here and happen to be someone who is familiar with Fr. Ashcraft, though I don't know him personally. I have also attended Mass at two churches where he presided. I've spoken to him on several occassions regarding issues of politics and even the new age. In that respect he is in agreement with most of what I've read here. His radio program targeted those very people who did set out to slander him. I was involved in trying to defend him at the nasty little forum someone posted here. Those people were some of the lowest of the low. You should be ashamed of yourself for repeating what is nothing more than lies and gossip used to discredit him. It didn't work then with anyone with half a brain, and it hasn't worked now. Constance Cumbey should be reprimaded and ashamed for doing to someone else exactly what she claims was done to her. Now Mrs. Cumbey, you are part of the problem. The shoe is on the other foot. Doe sit make you feel good to have these lies posted here to attack a fellow Christian? Even more so one who has defended you and promoted your work? In every case of Fr. Ashcraft being attacked we find a sorry cast of characters behind it. Child pornographers, pagans, New Age types, occultists, neo-nazi's, and now an oddball group of fundamentalists who post endlessly to each other, slapping each other on the back for such "astute" research, when in fact it is nothing more than the typical internet rumor and slander. I add my voice to that of another person here and say to Mrs. Cumbey, if you have any decency in you at all you will remove the lies and gossip from this website. I don't really expect that, since I personally have no regard for fundamentalists and have found them to be a deceptive and unstable lot. However, in the final analysis I can at least be true to what I know. And even though he made it clear to us not to come here and defend him,I can't allow your lies to stand without rebuttal, since Fr. Ashcraft is a fine upstanding priest and man of God. While I am at it; why the demand for him to prove he is a Roman Catholic priest? He's never once claimed to be. He's a Byzantine Catholic priest. Seems strawman arguements are also very well used here. I won't be back so any response from the peabut gallery here will go unread. Though I doubt that matters since you seem to enjoy posting for your own pleasure anyway, rather than for any honest discourse.
Sam
Re your post, and I quote:
"Workers For Jesus Ministries Blog
... Workers For Jesus Ministries Created by Ev. Johan C Beetge. Sponsored By: Our Lady of the Moon Tradition, Report Website | Terms of Use | Privacy Policy ...
workersforjesus.spruz.com/blog.htm?a=&cat_id=51BFAAD5... - Cached"
# posted by Constance Cumbey : 8:59 AM
The cached verson of the "Workers for Jesus Ministries Blog" has as sponsor "Our Lady of the Moon tradition."
I'm working hard to get to the bottom of this!
Constance
# posted by Constance Cumbey : 9:01 AM
I am the owner of the website http://workersforjesus.spruz.com
As you are according to yourself an
attorney of law, you should know not to spread false information, as that can lead to law suits. My website is not sponsored by any moonlady. Furthermore, if you had any intention to investigate, you would have contacted me, as all my detail is on the website.
As for the sponsor at the bottom of the site, any halfwit can see that it is a standard free Spruz.com template, used by many sites with no connection to any sinister or unholy agendas.
In fact, as you are using Blogger, what guarantees do you have that Blogger wasn't designed by some satanist?
If anyone has an agenda, I think it may be you, trying to damage those trying to Glorify God.
I Pray God forgives you for this.
By the way, here is my email: johan@workersforjesus.co.za
I thought you think that fr Amorth makes dubious claims? You say so in your Facebook page. Now you say you are in standing with him?
Father, you are under attack by the enemy. Proof you are right. Blessings to you as "men hate you and say all manner of evil against you." Your ministry is needed. The devil would love to silence you!
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