On October 27-28, 1995, Javier Solana established the Barcelona Process which was to culminate in the establishment of a Mediterranean Free Trade Zone in 2010. Over the past 14 years, I have watched it morph into these refinements:- European Mediterranean Union (2008)
- European Neighbourhood Policy (2007)
A palace was assigned for the operation in Barcelona, Spain.
Suddenly, this week, a well trained, young, ambitious Jordanian ambassador, Ahmad Massaadeh, has been named its first chief. This should be interesting to watch, particularly as Spain and Javier Solana's alter ego, Cristina Gallach, run the six month European Union Presidency -- the first under the Lisbon Treaty launch the first post-Lisbon Spanish Presidency. Catherine Ashton, the Socialist non-hereditary English Baroness is coming under criticism. I'm posting incoming news on this at my Twitter account.
Stay tuned!
CONSTANCE
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Well, well, this IS very interesting! I have been very impressed with Walid Shoebat's end-time scenario with an anti-christ coming out of Islam,and this gives a little nudge that way! What are the other thoughts?
Dozens of U.N. personnel killed by Haiti quake
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The United Nations said on Thursday that dozens of its personnel were killed in Tuesday's earthquake in Haiti, the worst loss of life the world body has ever suffered in a single incident.
Speaking to reporters via video link from Haiti's capital Port-au-Prince, senior U.N. official David Wimhurst said four U.N. police officials, 13 civilian staff and 19 military personnel were among the dead -- 36 altogether so far.
"Sadly, we must expect ... we will start to recover more bodies," Wimhurst said.
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said earlier that around 150 U.N. staff remained unaccounted for. He added that he had no news about the fate of the head of the peacekeeping mission in Haiti, Hedi Annabi of Tunisia.
Haitian President Rene Preval said on Wednesday that Annabi was dead. But U.N. officials later cast doubt on his remarks, saying they had no information to confirm it.
Annabi was in the five-story U.N. peacekeeping mission's headquarters in Port-au-Prince when it collapsed during the earthquake. U.N. officials said he was among those trapped in the rubble and it was not clear if he was alive or dead.
The U.N. force, which includes about 9,000 troops and police from more than 40 countries, was sent to the country in 2004 to try to bring stability after President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was ousted by armed gangs and former soldiers.
It has supported efforts to bring democracy to Haiti, run programs to disarm militant groups and helped the Haitian police. Haiti has been run by President Rene Preval since May 2006, when it returned to constitutional rule.
Ban and Wimhurst stressed that, along with efforts to rescue its own people, the United Nations was still working to maintain law and order and deliver aid in the poverty-stricken country.
This is Javier Solana's (Barcelona Process) operation and he is still VERY MUCH in the picture as the primary strategist. I'm not sure how this is sorting out here, but the entire thing is very interesting.
Constance
What the Jordanian connection includes:
- Prince Hassan Talal of Jordan, who has served as president of the Club of Rome and is extremely active with Javier Solana and ALLIANCE OF CIVILIZATIONS. He is also a close friend of USA Leonard SWIDLER, a New Age / New World Order / New World Religion activist from way back
One EU Foreign Minister (Luxembourg's) said last month that East Jerusalem was not part of Israel:
"East Jerusalem not part of Israel: European minister
07 December 2009, 18:22 CET
— filed under: Mideast, diplomacy, Luxembourg
(BRUSSELS) - East Jerusalem, which Palestinians want as a national capital, is "not part of Israel," Luxembourg's Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn said Monday ahead of a meeting with his EU counterparts.
"We all recognise, in discussions, that east Jerusalem is occupied, and if it is occupied then it is not part of Israel," Asselborn told reporters as he arrived for the talks in Brussels.
"I don't understand how Israel fails to recognise that Palestine is composed of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem," he added, pleading for Europe and the US to use "clear language" when pronouncing on the issue.
However Europe does not speak with a single voice on east Jerusalem, which Israel invaded and occupied in 1967 and subsequently annexed.
Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini upon his arrival for the talks, said unilateral pronouncements should be avoided.
"We support anything which encourages the two parties to sit down at the negotiating table again," he said.
In a first draft of a statement drawn up for an EU summit at the end of the week, Europe's leaders spoke in favour of "a viable state of Palestine comprising the West Bank and Gaza and with east Jerusalem as its capital."
Such wording angered Israel whose foreign ministry said it harmed Europe's ability to play a mediating role in the Middle East.
A new version of the draft text, seen by AFP Monday, drops the explicit reference to east Jerusalem as the capital of a future Palestinian state.
"A way must be found, through negotiations, to resolve the status of Jerusalem as the future capital of two states," according to the revised text, which remains subject to change before the EU heads of state and government meet in the Belgian capital on Thursday and Friday."
http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/mideast-diplomacy.1tl/?searchterm=None
Ahmad Masa’deh, Ph.D.
Ambassador of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan to the European Union
Ambassador of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan to the European Union , the Kingdom of Belgium, the Kingdom of Norway , the Grand-Duchy of Luxembourg and Jordan’s Representative to NATO, 2006-
Minister for Public Sector Reform, Jordan 2004-2005.
Member of various Jordanian reform high committees for the restructuring of the energy, telecommunication, public sector, aviation sectors in Jordan, 2004-2005.
Board Member of the Royal Jordanian Airlines Company, 2005-2006.
Practising attorney at law since 1993 representing prestigious local entities and international conglomerates, with focus on corporate and business law, foreign investment, international trade, restructuring and privatisation, and energy law.
Legal counsel at the London-based international law firm Rowe & Maw, 1999-2000.
Board Member of the Council of the World Trade Law Association in London, 2000-2002.
International Arbitrator on the Panels of Arbitrators of the World Bank (International Center for Settlement of Investment Disputes ICSID), 2001-2007.
Assistant Professor of International Business Law at the University of Jordan, School of Law, Member of the University Council, Member of the Law School Council, Head of the Punitive Council of the University, and Assistant Dean for Development of the Faculty of Law, Jordan 2000-2004.
Holds an LL.B. degree (with honours) from the University of Jordan, a Diploma in the US Legal System from Georgetown Law Center in Washington D.C., an LL.M. degree from the University of Virginia School of Law in Charlottesville USA, and a PhD degree from King’s College London, University of London.
Author “Investment and Competition in International Policy: Prospects for WTO Law”, Cameron May international law publishers, London, 2003.
Speaker at numerous international conferences and workshops.
from:
http://tinyurl.com/ydx6jye
I wanted to share this with the readership. Andrew Strom goes on to name names. Bravo! Finally, someone with some stature with Christendom with enough guts to do so:
KUNDALINI WARNING - Urgent
-by Andrew Strom.
I just saw the video of Rick Joyner announcing that Todd Bentley
is back ministering every night at Morningstar in North Carolina
and now they have so-called "revival" manifestations eerily similar
to Lakeland. They also announced that they are streaming these
big meetings every night on their new TV channel - and they are
greatly promoting the whole thing.
Now I am a tongues-speaking Pentecostal myself - but can I ask
a simple question here please? What kind of "spirit" was it
operating in the Lakeland revival - when the leader and main focal-
point of the meetings (Todd Bentley) was having an adulterous
affair behind the scenes? Was it truly the "Holy" Spirit that was
anointing something so sensual and unholy? And now that Todd
divorced his wife and married his mistress - are we supposed to
welcome him back and this "anointing" with him? What is going
on here? Rick Joyner has been warned very specifically by high-
level ministries not to do what he is doing now - bringing Todd
Bentley back into the limelight. And yet it seems he does not
care. Apparently the "manifestations" are all that matter.
So what exactly are these 'manifestations' if they are seemingly
at home in such an unholy environment? Are they from God at
all? (I am talking here about the violent "jerking", uncontrollable
laughter, bodily contortions, drunkenness, 'portals', strange "angel"
encounters, etc.) Why do we not see such an 'anointing' in the
Bible? Why aren't Jesus or the apostles promoting these
manifestations if they really are true Revival? Why instead do we
see these things all the way through the New Age and Hinduism,
etc? Do we not realize that many false religions have their own
version of "laying on of hands" that results in these very types of
manifestations? This 'spirit' is not in the Bible - but it is all the
way through Kundalini-type Hinduism! Don't you think this should
alarm us?
WHAT is KUNDALINI?
If you search for Kundalini and Shakti on the Internet, you will find
that multitudes of people in the New Age and Eastern religions
still experience these powerful manifestations. Often this is with
the help of a Guru, who touches them on the forehead so that
they can experience a "Kundalini Awakening".
As researcher Robert Walker wrote in 1995:
"The meetings which mystic Hindu gurus hold are called 'Darshan'.
At these meetings devotees go forward to receive spiritual experience
from a touch by the open palm of the hand, often to the forehead,
by the guru in what is known as the Shakti Pat or divine touch.
The raising of the spiritual experience is called raising Kundalini…
After a period when the devotee has reached a certain spiritual
elevation they begin to shake, jerk, or hop or squirm uncontrollably,
sometimes breaking into uncontrolled animal noises or laughter
as they reach an ecstatic high. These manifestations are called
'Kriyas'. Devotees sometimes roar like lions and show all kinds
of physical signs during this period. Often devotees move on to
higher states of spiritual consciousness and become inert
physically and appear to slip into an unconsciousness..."
continues...
continued...
...And as the guru Shri Yogãnandji Mahãrãja wrote:
"When Your body begins trembling, hair stands on roots, you laugh
or begin to weep without your wishing, your tongue begins to utter
deformed sounds, you are filled with fear or see frightening visions…
the Kundalini Shakti has become active."
In China there is a popular Kundalini-type movement called 'Qigong'.
When a Chinese Qigong spiritual master spoke in the USA in
1991, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that many in the crowd
began to experience "spontaneous movements". The master told
his audience, "Those who are sensitive might start having some
strong physical sensations - or start laughing or crying. Don't worry.
This is quite normal."
When you see videos of these "kriyas" or other Kundalini-type
manifestations, you would often swear that you are watching a
modern "Impartation"-type church meeting. (And I say this as
someone who believes strongly in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I just
don't believe in "alien" anointings infiltrating the Body of Christ!
There is a big difference between Kundalini and the real Holy Spirit).
Since 1993-4, I believe a foreign spirit has been allowed to invade
the church - first through Rodney Howard-Browne's ministry - then
Toronto, then the Prophetic movement (which I was part of at the
time) and on into Lakeland and many other ministries and
movements. I urge people now to "test the spirits" just as we are
commanded to in Scripture. Do not let just anyone lay hands on
you. This is a powerful spirit and it has the backing of a lot of
big-name ministries. In fact, these men and women are the very
ones responsible for allowing it to spread right through the body
of Christ. And one day they will be answerable to God for doing so.
We are specifically warned in the Bible that the Last Days will be
a time of "seducing spirits," false prophets, 'lying signs and
wonders,' and that we always need to watch for "angels of light"
masquerading as the real thing. Why does the modern church
not take these warnings seriously? Aren't we living in the very
days that the Bible warns about?
Right now I need to do something that I have never done in such
a way before. I have never before published a list of ministries or
movements to watch out for. But this time I have to. This sickness
has gone on long enough. I urge you to cut yourself off from
the following ministries and their tainted "anointings" my friends.
Even though some of these people say "good things" at times, it
is simply not worth having any involvement with them due to the
tainted anointing that they endorse or minister in themselves.
continues...
continued...
...Here is the list-
(1) Todd Bentley.
(2) Rodney Howard Browne - the so-called "Holy Ghost Bartender."
(2) Rick Joyner or anyone connected with Morningstar Ministries.
(3) John Arnott & any connected with TACF (The "Toronto Blessing").
(4) Peter Wagner of the 'New Apostolic Reformation' who claims
to be head of a worldwide network of 'apostles' - who publicly
endorsed Lakeland and will soon preach at Toronto TACF alongside
other "false anointing" advocates.
(5) Mike Bickle and IHOP Kansas City (-I lived nearby for over
two years - and know how much they are into all this stuff. Mike
Bickle promotes it in his book).
(6) Bob Jones - the Kansas City prophet whose ministry is utterly
tainted by it all.
(7) Patricia King and anyone else from 'Extreme Prophetic.'
(8) John Crowder & anyone connected with "Sloshfest."
(9) Bill Johnson of Bethel church, Redding - who says some good
things but publicly endorsed Lakeland and promotes the "false
anointing" very strongly behind the scenes.
(10) Heidi & Rolland Baker of IRIS Ministries - who do good work
amongst the poor in Mozambique - but who have also carried
and promoted this tainted anointing for years.
(11) Randy Clark, Wes & Stacey Campbell, and other key
figures from the "Toronto blessing."
(12) The Elijah List - and almost anyone featured on it.
Of course there are a huge number of lesser-known preachers
and ministries who carry or endorse this Kundalini-type "anointing"
around the world. But I have concentrated here on the most
influential that I know of. It really is an enormous issue in the
church. I urge anyone who is a supporter of any of the above
ministries to really check them out thoroughly. If you find (as I have)
that they carry or endorse this false Kundalini spirit in the church,
then please stop supporting them in any way - and whatever you
do, don't let them "lay hands" on you!
I am putting everything on the line to be "naming names" like this.
But I believe it is that serious. How on earth did we get to the point
where "kriyas" just like Hinduism are spreading through the church?
Please forward this email to everyone you know, blogs and boards,
etc. These people are trying to "relaunch" this whole thing right
now. Help us get this warning out. To see a video showing "kriyas"
and other Kundalini-type manifestations, please click on the
Youtube links below-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyW1UFzS2LY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaNiuRWHZrY
Please send feedback on this article to- prophetic@revivalschool.com
God bless you all!
Andrew Strom.
________________________________
I would personally add:
- Chuck Pierce and Glory of Zion Ministries
- Lou Engle
Ken Meier Detroit then and now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hR8koohuFk
I wish I could get the name of the movie and dancer, it evades my memory
Sam Roberts Detroit '67
it starts out with Mayor Cavanagh then the music video after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCi17SEPgpc
and the non music video version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfBk7URJAIA
Constance,
I sent more of the information Susanna and I have been working on to your gmail.
Susanna,
I think I may have found exactly what we were looking for.
Thanks Craig for your post concerning the warning. Most if not all of the people listed are part of the group that believe in Dominionism also known as the Kingdom Now doctrine. This doctine is quickly coming into the church.
JD,
You've got mail. I think you hit a home run.
Thank you, Craig . . .
for your 'Craig's list.' ;>)
From my AOL home page (01/15/10):
FEMA DROWNS MILLIONS OF HOMEOWNERS IN FLOOD INSURANCE PREMIUMS
By Charles Feldman
From the kind folks who brought you the Katrina debacle (OK, OK, I know! Mother Nature gave us the hurricane that wiped out New Orleans. But it was the Federal Emergency Management Agency, FEMA, that largely gave us the debacle part!) now comes a new act that has millions of home owners up in arms -- if not yet water.
Many homeowners are getting notices they must purchase flood insurance for the first time, even though they may live in areas never known to flood....as in, never!
These premiums can cost anywhere from $500 to a few thousand dollars a year. And, in a sweet-heart deal if ever there was one for insurance companies, flood insurance is a requirement for anyone whose mortgage is backed by the federal government.
And, yes, more than 50 percent of all mortgages in this country are now guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (who, by the way, ought to be married by now, don't you think?)
FEMA is relying on new maps drawn up to highlight areas that could --- let me repeat that word again, COULD --- get flooded in what is called a once-in-a-100-year storm! ("Just because you haven't experienced a flood in the past, doesn't mean you won't in the future" FEMA helpfully explains on its floodsmart.gov website.)
According to FEMA, a high-risk area has at least a 1 percent annual chance of flooding, which equates to a 26 percent chance of flooding over the life of a 30-year mortgage. Because "changing weather patterns, erosion, and development" can affect floodplain boundaries, the agency explains, it has spent the past several years updating its county-by-county flood risk maps.
Still, that's hard for many homeowners to swallow, especially if your typical weather concern is drought, not deluge. Here in mostly dry Southern California, one irate local politico told the Los Angeles Times, "I'm a little bit suspect of FEMA in light of their track record."
Some cities and municipalities across the country are fighting back and, in some cases, FEMA is backing down and delaying or redrawing its maps.
Famous last words on this go to Los Angeles City Councilman Bernard Parks, once chief of the LAPD: "We don't understand how all of this area becomes a flood zone," says he.
Yeah, good question, Bernie!
To see if your area is deemed a flood risk, consult FEMA's maps. That is, if you can make heads or tails of them.
Charles Feldman is a journalist, media consultant and co-author of the book, "No Time To Think-The Menace of Media Speed and the 24-hour News Cycle." Oh, and he doesn't have flood insurance!
Not surprising Newsweek has an article titled, "Why God Hates Haiti: The Frustrating Theology of Suffering" by Lisa Miller. Also not surprising that she quotes our "friend" Pat Robertson regarding God' punishment to Haiti for a blood oath during a slave revolt in 1791.
The article states, "But Robertson's is a fundamentalist view. It's so unkind and self-righteous—and deaf, dumb, and blind to centuries of theological discourse on suffering by thinkers from Augustine to Elie Wiesel—that one might easily call it backward.
There are opportunities in crises...
I believe that God is watching all of us now - to see how we respond to this crisis in Haiti.
He has a plan for every single one of us on this planet.
U.N.'s World Health Organization Eyeing Global Tax on Banking, Internet Activity
The World Health Organization (WHO) is considering a plan to ask governments to impose a global consumer tax on such things as Internet activity or everyday financial transactions like paying bills online.
Such a scheme could raise "tens of billions of dollars" on behalf of the United Nations' public health arm from a broad base of consumers, which would then be used to transfer drug-making research, development and manufacturing capabilities, among other things, to the developing world.
The multibillion-dollar "indirect consumer tax" is only one of a "suite of proposals" for financing the rapid transformation of the global medical industry that will go before WHO's 34-member supervisory Executive Board at its biannual meeting in Geneva.
The idea is the most lucrative — and probably the most controversial — of a number of schemes proposed by a 25-member panel of medical experts, academics and health care bureaucrats who have been working for the past 14 months at WHO's behest on "new and innovative sources of funding" to accomplish major shifts in the production of medical R&D.
WHO's so-called Expert Working Group has also suggested asking rich countries to set aside fixed portions of their gross domestic product to finance the shift in worldwide research and development, as well as asking cash-rich developing nations like China, India or Venezuela to pony up more of the money.
http://tinyurl.com/yjq5jyf
Obama Faith Council Debates Requiring Fed. Fund Recipients to Remove Religious Symbols.
WASHINGTON, D.C., January 14, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) -
President Obama's faith council came to no clear conclusion after an impassioned debate on whether religious organizations receiving federal funds should be required to cover or remove religious symbols in service areas, reported Washington Post religion writer William Wan Tuesday.
The council discussed the matter in a two-hour teleconference Monday, as it finalizes a draft report this week.
The members on the teleconference also chose Melissa Rogers, the director of Wake Forest University School of Divinity's Center for Religion and Public Affairs, as the faith council's official chairwoman. Rogers is considered an expert in legal issues pertaining to the separation of church and state.
Wan reports that Rogers offered three possible recommendations for the council regarding religious images for federally-funded groups: the icons could be disallowed; allowed only if no other religious neutral rooms are available and covering up such icons is impractical; or allowed with encouragement that organizations be "sensitive about the issue."
Catholic League president Bill Donohue said that the fact the council even had the debate "just tells us volumes."
"This is consistent with the animus against religion that we've seen from the beginning with this administration," Donohue told LifeSiteNews.com (LSN) Friday. The leading Catholic watchdog called to mind an incident in April when, per White House request, Georgetown University covered up a plaque with a cross and a symbol for the name of Jesus that would have appeared over Obama's head during a speech there.
Donohue called on the administration to close down the faith office whose purpose, he said, has been radically altered from the original vision of the Bush administration.
"We're talking about people who are charged with faith-based initiatives, to implement them - and their central concern is not how they can facilitate service to the dispossessed stemming from faith groups, their concern is how can they shield the bigots in our society from religious iconography?" he asked.
"This is worse than just simply an insult, they're a fraud - because they're posing as though they are the friends of faith-based programs, when in fact they're not."
Donohue said he wasn't sure of how much impact the directive might be expected to have on institutions such as Catholic universities, which usually receive federal funds - but said the debate betrayed a consistent motive in the Obama administration "to neuter the public expression of religion."
"When they hear 'religion,' they think 'church and state,' they think 'the separation of,' - they think how we can limit freedom as opposed to expanding freedom," he said. "The whole thing is so utterly twisted."
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2010/jan/10011506.html
Savvy
Constance,
You might want to read this.
Anglican Bishop: Vacuum Created by Christian Culture Collapse will be Filled by Radical Islam
Says in the 1960s Church leaders "all but capitulated" to rise of neo-Marxism
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jun/08060205.html
Savvy
Why would any professing Christian be uncomfortable having a cross and the name of Jesus behind him during a speech? I thought Obama calls himself a Christian. As I understand, he has yet to set foot inside a church since taking office. President Bush found a way to go to church and so did Clinton on occasion.
"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Matthew 7:20
From the Dallas Morning News (January 13, 2010)
Would-be robber in Frisco, Texas flees in the name of Jesus
Marian Chadwick used the heftiest weapons she could find when a man tried to rob her Frisco shop Monday night – her finger and the power of God. And they worked.
Chadwick owns Extravagant Necessities, a crafts boutique near Stonebriar Country Club. She was finishing a sale with her last customer of the day when a hooded man walked in, pointed a gun at her and demanded money.
Chadwick told him she had none. He pounded the gun twice on the counter.
"I got mad," said the 57-year old, pursing her lips. "The Texas part of me was challenged. So I pointed my finger and said, 'In the name of Jesus, you get out of my store. I bind you by the power of the Holy Spirit."
The gunman took a step back and told customer Kathy Vereen to drop to the floor. After she refused, Chadwick pointed her finger at the man and continued to chastise him. He walked out of the store cursing. He took nothing.
Chadwick ran out to look for license plates while Vereen called 911. The whole thing was caught on tape.
"We experienced the power of God; that's why we weren't scared," Vereen told Chadwick as they processed the incident two days later.
Chadwick has been deluged with phone calls and e-mails since that night. Her friends say she's crazy but admire her gumption. Acquaintances have called her their hero. Her husband keeps making finger-pointing gestures at his hips as if he were pulling a gun.
"Glock, smock," said Chuck Chadwick, referring to the pistol used by the gunman. "I'll get my wife to point at you."
The Frisco Police Department isn't condoning the women's actions. "Property is replaceable; life isn't," said police spokesman Greg Barnett. "It's better to cooperate than to do anything that will agitate or anger the suspect and possibly cause the encounter to become violent."
The man is wanted for other offenses in Dallas, Plano, Richardson and Allen.
Her husband may joke, but he's still taking deep breaths. Chuck Chadwick heads a security service company for churches and knows how these situations can play out.
"I probably would have told them to give him the money," said Chadwick, watching his wife talk to customers from his back-room office. "I don't know what I would do without her."
Both wonder if the situation would have ended differently had he been there. He's trained to act and often carries more than a forceful finger.
"It wasn't [the gunman's] time to die," she said. "That's why Chuck wasn't here."
Chadwick said her faith stems from a Christian upbringing in Dallas. Her life continues as a series of missions, said her husband. Chadwick finds local female artists and helps sell their goods in her store.
Faith may have supported her, but it hasn't spared her from inevitable aftereffects. Chadwick relieves the scenario at night. She wonders if she'd respond so instinctively again.
She's made a Valentine's Day card that also won't allow her to forget. A silver heart reads, "Your Special Someone." It's attached to a fuzzy picture of the gunman.
"We're going to find that man so he can have a meeting with Jesus," she said, wagging her finger again. "His life could change."
I wonder who I should donate
some money to, regarding Haiti.
I don't trust or believe anything
that comes out of the United Nations.
I think that right now the United
Nations is nothing better than a
front for New World Odor,
anti-American, anti-Christian,
Globalist, phoney bleeding heart,
Fascist-in-hiding bull***t.
So that rules out The WHO,
and UNICEF, and just about every
NGO. (Most NGO's emanate
from the United Nations)
Can anyone tell me that I
should trust the Red Cross?
I want the money to get to
disaster relief, not line some
clever, greedy middlemans'
pockets.
No offense intended either,
but don't tell me Catholic
Charities, please. Their work
is evident all over my town
and it is, sad to say, apparently
aimed at wrecking everything
American that it encounters.
Any suggestions ?
I found this disturbing.
From Share International:
Maitreya steps forward
The way prepared by His Herald the ‘star’, Maitreya, the World Teacher, has given His first interview on American television. Millions have heard Him speak both on TV and the internet.
His open mission has begun.
He was introduced not as Maitreya, the World Teacher and Head of our Spiritual Hierarchy, but simply as a man, one of us. In this way He “ensures that men follow and support Him for the truth and sanity of His ideas rather than for His status”.
He spoke earnestly of the need for peace, achievable only through the creation of justice and the sharing of the world’s resources.
This is the first of many such interviews which will be given in the USA, Japan, Europe and elsewhere, bringing His message of hope to the world.
| Benjamin Creme
14 January 2010
http://www.shareintl.org/index.htm
On the bright side:
The other day I saw one of
those lines crawling across the
bottom of the screen with news
updates on FOX News:
"World Bank post record breaking
45 Billion dollar profit for 2009."
Odd how no one read a report
or mentioned it at all...
Did anyone else see it ?
China: Population Control key to Climate Change Deal
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-12/10/content_9151129.htm
To Anon @ 11:55 & Anon @ 1:54:
You’re welcome!
Yes, all these folks and their “ministries” are promoting Dominionism / Kingdom Now teachings (please note that there are variations of specifics within these belief systems). And, this stuff has been infecting the church for about 60 years as this is part of what is known as “Latter Rain” (denounced as heresy in 1948 by Assemblies of God denomination) although the infection rate has been snowballing especially for about the past 25 or so.
I’m on an email list of one of these types as I used to trade comments with him on a couple different blogs including his own trying to win him over to Truth. He has recently moved to Detroit – right in Constance’s own back yard. This guy actually went to Lakeland as the hype was beginning to dwindle for healing. (Todd Bentley was no longer “ministering” apparently due to the unraveling of his marriage related to his extra-marital affair. For those not in the know: all is OK now since Bentley is now divorced and remarried to his adulteress; and, is hence, ready for “ministry” after a “restoration process.”) Reportedly, He went onstage with his wife who had a lifeless fetus in her womb. Bentley’s sometime replacement (the name escapes me) prayed for a “resurrection from the dead” for the not yet stillborn fetus. (There was a video of their appearance at Lakeland on his website at the time.) Well, there was no “resurrection.” It was quite sad, really.
Anyway, following is part of the most recent email from him. The emphasis is his:
This is an extremely volatile season—and we must be intentionally connected. Individual churches and ministries that are not strategically and continually together are vulnerable.
I’m not talking about being a part of a ministry network or denominational organization. That’s not enough. We must relationally be working together. We need a weekly city-church and national-church staff meeting. We must be very tightly unified.
**Prophetically, right now I actually see a picture of a ‘sitting duck’ in a pond, all by itself. It’s swimming around enjoying the comfortable environment of the water that it’s been accustomed to for years. I feel so strongly the days when we could get away with tending to our own individual mission at the expense of the greater city mission are coming to an end.
We don’t want this end to come due to an attack of the enemy—we must be proactive and alert on this side of trouble
I just received another news alert about another potential terrorist attack IN OUR STATE! There were two back-to-back issues at the airport in Detroit recently, and now I just saw that an airplane had to land in northern Michigan due to a bomb threat.
What is God saying to the church? How are we to respond? We can’t simply “work” our way through this season, we can’t only petition our way through, we can’t hope our way through.
We MUST hear God, compare notes, declare the word of the Lord and respond with precision—continually!
Here we have Dominionist overtones, hints of “Transformation” a la George Otis, Jr. and his “Spiritual Mapping,” a push for false ecumenism (unity at the expense of sound doctrine), false prophecy (“no, really, I did see a sitting duck!”), and the aberrant word of faith (or word/faith) doctrine.
JD:
Disturbing indeed! So, who is this "masked man" Creme speaks of?
Bilderberg member, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, Republican Texas gubernatorial hopeful, unveiled her border security plan on Tuesday...
HOUSTON (January 12, 2010)--Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison's plan for security along the Texas-Mexico border includes expanding state participation in Homeland Security programs that let local law enforcement officials enforce some federal immigration laws and that verify whether a person can legally work in the country.
Hutchison unveiled the plan Tuesday during a news conference at her Houston campaign headquarters.
She is challenging Republican Gov. Rick Perry for the GOP gubernatorial nomination, which should be decided in the March 2 primary, although a third candidate, Republican Debra Medina, could force the race into a runoff.
Perry's campaign criticized Hutchison's plan, saying she has failed to uphold the federal government's responsibility to secure the border.
The two candidates, as well as Medina, are taking part in the a debate Thursday in Denton, which will be streamed live on KWTX.com.
JD,
What a liar B. Creme is !
Rather than start from the "top"
with a propaganda campaign,
the way most despot wanna-be's
would normally do it, he's going
for a " we've already been on
TV and been seen by millions"
lie.
It's brazen, extremely bold, and,
it's psychotic.
You can't say he isn't
thinking big.
See: Mein Kampf, by A. Hitler
Someone should call his bluff.
To YesNaSpanishTown @ 2:33 PM:
Ah yes, 'our friend' Pat Robertson.
He's the one who once spread the word to Christians that Jesus would return "ON" the air - rather than "IN" the air - that the Bible meant that 'all eyes shall see Him' ON TELEVISION!!!
So, Pat - all those who live in poverty in third world countries - and don't have acccess to a television set - will be denied being a witness to the Second Coming??? (Yea, right . . .)
Another BIG reason why no one should listen to New Ager, Pat Robertson!!!
Paul:
Is this the information you were looking for?
From the Huffington Post:
WASHINGTON (AP)
The Federal Reserve says it made a record profit of $46.1 billion last year as the central bank made money off its extraordinary efforts to rescue the country from the worst economic and financial crisis since the 1930s.
The windfall gets turned over to the U.S. Treasury.
It marks the biggest profit on records dating back to 1914 when the Fed was created. The previous record profit - of $34.6 billion - was registered in 2007. In 2008, the Fed reported a profit of $31.7 billion.
The Fed says the increase was primarily due to increase earnings on securities it held last year.
From the Washington Post (01/12/10)
Wall Street firms aren't the only banks that had a banner year. The Federal Reserve made record profits in 2009, as its unconventional efforts to prop up the economy created a windfall for the government.
FDIC pushes to rein in banker pay
In crisis, Fed made a record profit
November trade deficit increases to $36.4 billion
The Fed will return about $45 billion to the U.S. Treasury for 2009, according to calculations by The Washington Post based on public documents. That reflects the highest earnings in the 96-year history of the central bank. The Fed, unlike most government agencies, funds itself from its own operations and returns its profits to the Treasury.
TO CRAIG:
EXCELLENT, TIMELY, and VITAL information! Thank you, thank you!
Constance
Dear Paul:
What about the Salvation Army?
Constance
I have been watching CNN's coverage of Haiti this evening and am becoming more and more disturbed about what I am seeing and hearing.
Anderson Cooper has spoken to the suffering people on the ground all day long...and they are asking him, "WHERE is the help...?"
What IS taking so long for help to arrive?
CNN also showed a dump truck unoading dead bodies into a local landfill (making just one of many trips).
There are many people who have died unnecessarily, because there is no medcine to treat them.
I am almost afraid to say this out loud, but it reminds me of what happened during "Katrina."
May God in Heaven please HELP these people.
HAITI AID EFFORTS HINDERED IN CRITICAL HOURS
Port-au-Prince, Haiti (CNN) -- As huge numbers of desperate Haitians struggled Friday in what could be their last hours of life, the supplies many needed remained stuck in planes, ships, and cargo holds, unable to get to them.
Adding to the desperation, medical personnel were seen leaving in droves Friday night from a makeshift hospital in Port-au-Prince after being told by U.N. officials to get out of the area. Medical staff had been treating 25 patients at the location.
"There is concern about riots not far from here -- and this is part of the problem," CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent Sanjay Gupta said. "They (doctors) want to take care of lots of patients that are actually in the tents and many more that are actually outside, but they are simply being told at this point to stop and try to get to some sort of secure location."
Sandra Pierre, a Haitian who has been helping at the hospital, said the medical staff took most of the supplies with them.
"All the doctors, all the nurses are gone," she said. "They are expected to be back tomorrow. They had no plan on leaving tonight. It was an order that came suddenly."
She told Gupta, "It's just you ... and an American soldier who retired who came here from Santo Domingo to help."
"With medicine, we are not talking about weeks and months down the line -- this is minutes and hours in terms of what is necessary," Gupta said.
Gupta later told CNN's "Situation Room" that medical personnel were told by United Nations officials to leave the makeshift hospitals around Port-au-Prince for "a secure location."
"There is concern about riots not far from here -- and this is part of the problem," Gupta said. "They (doctors) want to take care of lots of patients that are actually in the tents and many more that are actually outside, but they are simply being told at this point to stop and try to get to some sort of secure location."
For more, click on link below:
http://www.cnn.com/2010
/WORLD/americas/01/15
/haiti.international.aid/index.html
?hpt=T1
U.S. ADMIRAL SAYS AID DISTRIBUTION 'STYMIED'
ABOARD THE USS CARL VINSON (Jan. 15) – Supplies are not reaching victims of the massive earthquake that hit Haiti on Tuesday because of a coordination failure among military operations and humanitarian agencies, Navy Rear Adm. Ted N. Branch said today from the flight bridge of the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson.
The efforts of the military and relief groups to reach the estimated tens of thousands of homeless, injured or deceased have been "stymied" by coordination problems among aid groups and by damaged roadways that limit ground transportation, Branch said. "Coordination hasn't come as far as it needs to be. We need to get that process energized," he said.
Aid groups with supplies at the airport in Port-au-Prince don't have the means to distribute it, and no one is in place on the ground to receive medical supplies or water, Branch said. Meanwhile his own ship's 19 helicopters are idle on the flight deck, since they have no supplies to distribute. "We have the lift, we have communications, we have command and control on a sea platform, but we don't have supplies," he said. "Having seen firsthand this morning the devastation on the ground in Haiti, it is daunting the difficulties involved."
Branch was underway to San Diego around midnight Jan. 12 when he received orders from U.S. Southern Command to steer the Vinson to Haiti. The nuclear-powered ship raced at war speed from Norfolk, Va., to Port-au-Prince, picking up more than 10 Seahawk helicopters, six cargo transport helicopters, more than 700 cases of water and 700 additional military personnel to add to the 2,800 members of the ship's company, Branch said.
Now situated 10 miles from the beaches of Port-au-Prince, the Vinson began delivering water to the city's airport at 8:30 a.m. Most of the rest of the day was spent surveying for helicopter landing spots. Branch, who commands the first major U.S. military operation sent to Haiti since Tuesday's earthquake, faces steep challenges in finding aid delivery sites because of rubble, debris and the country's mountainous landscape.
"Frankly there's nowhere to put (supplies) down," he said. "Coastal development is pretty dense and we don't want to just drop it out of the helicopter. The landing zones, distribution zones, are in the battered terrain. The mountain areas are going to be much more difficult."
The 15 sorties launched from the ship today dropped off water at six landing spots around Haiti and picked up an American citizen and double-amputee found under the rubble of a hotel, said Cmdr. Muhammad Khan, who coordinates the Vinson's air traffic. "The only assets I can lend are helicopters," Kahn said.
Helicopters will fly to the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay – the closest U.S. base to Haiti – Saturday morning to leave the injured at Guantanamo's naval hospital and to pick up supplies to bring back to the ship. U.S. Coast Guard helicopters have delivered to the Guantanamo hospital 17 people, seven of whom continue receiving treatment there. The helicopters can't fly at night because none of Haiti's air control towers or power lines is lighted, Branch said.
Relief agencies are struggling to communicate with groups on the ground, Portland, Ore.-based Mercy Corps spokeswoman Joy Portella said in a phone interview. "In a disaster situation like this, the U.N. is usually coordinating, but with [so many] of their workers killed, the coordination effort has become more difficult. The general chaos element is a little higher here," she said.
Yes thank you Anon.
That was the article I saw, and it wasn't
the World Bank but rather it's
number one affiliate The US Fed,
aka the "Creature From Jeckyll Island."
What the heck does "It's
unconventional efforts to prop up
the economy resulted in a windfall
for the government" even mean ?
So it was just by accident that the
FED raked in 45 billion dollars ?
Nice work if you can get it.
Constance,
Yes I think you're right about that.
At least I want to believe that
the Savation Army is still legit.
Like "horrorscopes" and predictions by Nostradamas, Benjamin Creme's announcement is so vague, it could be any one. I guess we can rule out women. How much money does Creme collect through his Maitreya thing?
Dear Len, (regarding Yahshuah adding to The Law)
I am reposting this here from the previous thread because I was deeply troubled by my hasty and incomplete, erroneuos wording the the other day.
After I posted I was troubled deeply that I had made the statement that Yashuaha added to the law, which is forbidden, - to add to, take away from, or abolish. That is why many people do not see Jesus as the messiah, because the law, Torah, can never be changed. His Word is eternal.
It was written in stone....
I should have used the words "expounded upon" - meaning, explained further. My heart is deeply grieved that I made this error in regards to HaMashiach.
Although I would like to agree that there is a difference in acting out a sin and thinking of sinning, couldn't it be said that almost all sin is first thought out, then committed? Except perhaps for "crimes of passion"? It is good to begin with obediance because of the fear of consequences or just a desire to do the "right thing". But eventually one should have a true change of heart, where disobediance is distasteful. Where we abhor what Elohim abhors. Where what was once written in stone is now written in our hearts. This is what Yahshuah taught.
Peace and blessings
To Anonymous @ 8:57 AM
Sin is nothing else than a morally bad act, an act not in accord with reason informed by the Divine law. God has endowed us with reason and free-will, and a sense of responsibility; He has made us subject to His law, which is known to us by the dictates of conscience, and our acts must conform with these dictates, otherwise we sin (Romans 14:23).
In addition, there are sins of omission (as well as sins of commission).
A sin of omission is measured like that attaching to sins of commission, by the dignity of the virtue and the magnitude of the precept to which the omission is opposed as well as the amount of deliberation.
A person may be guilty of a sin of omission by failing to do something which he is unable to do, by reason of a cause for which he is entirely responsible, as when a person knows that drinking to excess will incapacitate him, and yet drinks.
Paul the Apostle refers to this sin directly when he states "For I do not do the good I want ..." (Romans 7:19).
Anon 9:21am
What if someone's conscience allows them to torture animals, abuse children or practice genocide?
By your arguement, anything someone chooses to do that they feel their conscience allows, must be ok because God would otherwise have put it in them not to do it.
What is the definition of divine law? What is the standard of determination for a difference in "conscience"? Where is it found? Only in the hearts and minds of men? Yah forbid!
Peace and blessings
DavidinBC,
Creme doesn't chase money, unlike most other nut cases like him. He seems to have an endless supply of cash from his own personal sources. This is one aspect which makes his message different from others. Have you seen or heard the first hand accounts from christians who have been to one of his lectures? If you haven't start with Constance's and work your way through.
Anon 9:37 am
Is Paul the filter through which you define the entire Word of Elohim? Who then is your authority - Elohim or Paul?
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
To Anonymous @ 9:44 AM:
Re: "What if someone's conscience allows them to torture animals, abuse children or practice genocide? . . .By your arguement, anything someone chooses to do that they feel their conscience allows, must be ok because God would otherwise have put it in them not to do it."
___________________________________
Anyone who would practice torture, abuse or genocide would be a sociopath with NO conscience.
Sociopaths have little regard for the feelings of others and manipulate others in order to get what they desire. The term "sociopath" is no longer used in psychology and psychiatry, and the disorder is now
called "antisocial personality disorder."
People who have this disorder often have no sense of right or wrong and many only receive treatment when forced to by the judicial system, an employer or family member.
To Anonymous @ 9:44 AM:
Divine law is the revealed law in the scriptures.
(Of course, for all those non-believers out there, I guess they can 'disect' away until they're blue in the face!!!)
Christ was either God or he was a bad man. A good man would never make the claims he did.
For he claimed to be God. He said, "Before Abraham was, I Am", thus speaking the word no Jew dares to speak because it is God's own private name, spoken by God himself to Moses at the burning bush. Jesus wanted everyone to believe that he was God. He wanted people to worship him. He claimed to forgive everyone's sins against everyone. (Who can do that but God, the One offended in every sin?)
Now what would we think of a person who went around making these claims today? Certainly not that he was a good man or a sage. There are only two possibilities: he either speaks the truth or not. If he speaks the truth, he is God and the case is closed. We must believe him and worship him. If he does not speak the truth, then he is not God but a mere man. But a mere man who wants you to worship him as God is not a good man. He is a very bad man indeed, either morally or intellectually. If he knows that he is not God, then he is morally bad, a liar trying deliberately to deceive you into blasphemy. If he does not know that he is not God, if he sincerely thinks he is God, then he is intellectually bad—in fact, insane.
A measure of your insanity is the size of the gap between what you think you are and what you really are. If I think I am the greatest philosopher in America, I am only an arrogant fool; if I think I am Napoleon, I am probably over the edge; if I think I am a butterfly, I am fully embarked from the sunny shores of sanity. But if I think I am God, I am even more insane because the gap between anything finite and the infinite God is even greater than the gap between any two finite things, even a man and a butterfly.
The New Age movement tries to orientalize Christ, by saying he meant that we were all gods, but Christ was Jewish, not Hindu. He taught prayer not meditation. The only way they can turn him into another avatar is to strip him of his Jewishness, and pit him against the Jewish God, which is what they have been doing.
Savvy
A Tree Is Known by Its Fruit
Lk. 6.43, 44
15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Mt. 3.10 · Lk. 3.9
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mt. 12.33
Obama’s bank tax is chump change – Celente
Russia Today (January 15th, 2010)
The tax on banks proposed by Washington guarantees Wall Street $US 4 trillion which means top banks will keep playing the same game in the future, economic trend forecaster Gerald Celente warned.
“Goldman Sachs is nothing more than a big hedge fund, period and paragraph. If they went under – people don’t have go to the ATM machine to get their money out of the Goldman Sachs bank, they do not have Goldman Sachs cheques, they are just fronting for Wall Street and all Wall Street is doing is gambling and their risks are covered by the American taxpayer,” said Celente.
“America was at its greatest when it was not about Wall Street but Main Street; when it was not about the Walmart but moms and pops and community; when it was not about factory farms but family farms. Everything in America has gone corporate,” grieved the forecaster.
Celente concluded by saying, “the merger of state and corporate powers, according to Mussolini, who knew a thing or two about it, is called fascism and fascism is coming to America.”
Food Security collapses in Haiti as machete-wielding gangs fight in the streets
Overnight, Haiti has gone from an organized, civil nation to a scenario of total chaos with gangs running wild through the streets, ransacking shops and fighting over food with machetes.
Looters scavenge for food and drink among rubble and bodies in Port-au-Prince.
Learning this, many an ignorant westerner might naively say, “That could only happen in Haiti. It’s because those people are so poor, so uncivilized. It could never happen here…”
Oh but it could.
Haiti isn’t so different from wherever you live — a city in America, Canada, Australia, the UK or anywhere else. Everywhere in the world, people will fight for survival when the situation becomes desperate. The only reason the streets in your town aren’t overrun with firearms and machetes right now is because food is plentiful. The electricity works. The water supply is functioning and police keep the relatively few criminals under control.
But wherever you live, your city is just one natural disaster away from total chaos. Hurricane Katrina proved it: Even in America, a civil, law-abiding city of people can be turned into looting, stealing and dangerously armed bands of gang-bangers.
And you know why? Because people aren’t prepared for disasters. Come to think of it, most people aren’t even prepared for a disruption in food and electricity lasting more than 48 hours. Almost nobody has spare food, water, emergency first aid supplies or the ability to physically defend themselves against aggressors. They are betting their lives on the bizarre idea that their government will save them if something goes wrong.
The people of Haiti are now learning what the people of New Orleans already know: Your government won’t save you. In a real crisis, you are on your own.
URL to article: http://www.infowars.com/food-security-collapses-in-haiti-as-machete-wielding-gangs-fight-in-the-streets/
Savvy,
Regarding Exodus 3:14
From reading the KJV,
It seems to me from looking
through my Strong's Concordance
with the Hebrew words all
beautifully transliterated and
anunciated, that what God said
to Moses would be pronounced,
something kind of sort of like;
'Anee Hayaw asher 'Anee Hayaw
The English word "that"
is the Hebrew word "asher", and
the fact that "asher" also became
our English word(s) for not only
"that", but also "what", "as", and
"who", it seems to me that he
was saying:
I am that I am
I am what I am
I am who I am,
and
I am as I am.
Maybe that's way off, I don't know.
But it also strikes me that later in that
same place God tells Moses;
"Tell them I Am has sent you".
-thus leaving out the adjective
and just saying I Am (in English)
So God shortened it up for
Moses and for the rest of the
human race for all time,
( unless of course I'm missing
something, which is likely ),
by calling himself
I AM, or in the Hebrew
'Anee Hayaw
The English "I" is the Hebrew word
#589, "'aniy" which comes from
the more primary word # 595
'anokiy _and the English word,
"am", is the Hebrew word #1961
'hayah pronounced haw-yaw'
Anon 1:25
It's called voluntary denial. People choose to live in the delusion that "it" whatever it is, cannot happen to them or where they live, and even if they entertain the thoughts, they quickly push it off to some distant future so they don't have to think too deep.
Today Haiti is CNN's coverage, tomorrow what could it be? The news report that Haiti's quake was an event that experts had predicted. Many experts have also predicted/warned about the Madrid fault, Yellowstone and California in the US. It's one quick view at USGS site to see how the earth is shaking.
Most people are asleep, by choice, even in the face of devastation like we are seeing in Haiti. Many don't even think about the government helping them, they think "it" won't ever happen. They'd rather occupy themselves with games, videos and "reality" TV. The Kardashians aren't going to give much comfort when the denial is over.
VW
Paul,
I AM refers to existence, God is existence or being. In fact the first primary fact in Philosophy is Existence. Something or Someone has to exist. The first principle is contradiction. A Thing cannot be true and not true at the same time. The first condition is truth. Our minds can know the truth.
Savvy
Following from the previous thread.
"Hebrew IS the inspired language. It's the language The Heavenly Father chose to reveal Himself through, why wouldn't He choose to reveal His only begotten son and the savior of the world through that same language? If He was up for that much of an overhaul, why didn't he give "Jesus" a greek mother?"
Then why does the New Testament have Greek Philosophy in it?
Let's examine Paul's dialogue with the Greek philosophers.
"In Athens ...[Paul] reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and the God-fearing Greeks, ...A group of Epicurean and Stoic [Greek] philosophers began to dispute with him ... brought him to a meeting of the Areopagus where they said to him, "May we know what this new teaching is that you are presenting? You are bringing some strange ideas to our ears, and we want to know what they mean."(Acts 17:18-20)
Here we see the the Bible talking about "the God-fearing Greeks." God is capitalized to make it clear which God the Bible passage is talking about. The location where he meets the Greeks is important. It was the hub of Greek Philosophy and is often mentioned in Greek tragedies. These were great thinkers, and they were open to what Paul had to say. The Bible said he "reasoned" with them. He didn't do spectacular healings like in other regions, he used his intellect and helped them use their intellect. Intellect is not a bad thing. Notice how the Bible acknowledges the open and honest searching questions of the Greek Philosophers. So Paul answered them.
..."Men of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious. For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO AN UNKNOWN GOD. Now what you worship as something unknown I am going to proclaim to you...From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live.
God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. (Acts 17:22-28)
Here Paul is honouring their search for Truth and telling them that their search has been completed and purified in Jesus. Paul did not say only Jewish people would seek him, he said that all people would seek him. He didn't say "your search was wrong ." He is saying that the "unknown God" that they have sought in their philosophy is the God of the Bible who is the Creator of everything.
Certainly the idols were inadequate and they knew it, that's why in the midst of them they had built an altar TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.
Paul also sees the brilliance in much of their quest, and he is quick to acknowledge when they talk about "AN UNKNOWN GOD".
"...'for in him we live and move and have our being.'
As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring.' "
(Acts 16:28)
Here Paul quotes the Greek poet Epimenides (500BC) and Aratus (300 BC)
Yes, Greek philosophy is found in the Bible!
Paul quotes the Greek Philosopher Aratus in Titus 1:12. He says "Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons."
Savvy
Following from the previous thread.
"Savvy made a good point too, although I disagree with the conclusion - that we need a church or sacraments. Yah created us as mortal, and the angels as spiritual. Why would He make the angels as spirit in heaven, without the tests of physical life and make us physical with the goal of becoming a spirit and going to heaven? Why not just make us all spirit in heaven to begin with?"
The Angels are not made in the image and likeness of God, only human beings are. Angels do have an intellect and will, and were created with free will, but they already made their choice, and no longer have free will. The Angels were not in heaven until their choice was made. They were created in Eternity, before time existed, before God created the world. They were only given one question: Do you wish to serve God or No?
Those who chose Yes, still do God's will, and those who chose No, still don't.
In Judaism, Angels don't have free will. Augustine and Aquinas agree with this view too.
What makes you think we will be spirit in heaven? Is Jesus only Spirit in Heaven. ?
I Cor 15 describes the resurrected body.
Study the post resurrection accounts in the gospels,
Jesus ate fish, Thomas felt the wounds in his body, Jesus plainly says "a spirit does not have flesh and bone" like you see I am. Paul tells us that Jesus gave them proof of the ressurrection, seeing a mere spirit is hardly proof.
I started this post with I John 1 because the apostles were witnesses of Jesus' resurrected body. John plainly says, hey we saw the resurrected Lord, in fact we handled him, we touched him.
One passage in the gospels plainly says a woman ( mary? ) clinged to him, that is hanged on him tightly. In the book of Acts ( 8 or 9 )
Stephen saw Jesus in heaven at the right hand of the father.
Body and soul are distinct realities, but they are one substance.
To split the two leads to dualism, which is an Eastern concept and not Jewish.
Why didn't God just save us spiritually in that case, why did he have to become flesh. ?
It's true that at the time of death, the soul leaves the body, but the Bible says our souls will be re-united with our bodies at the resurrection. And that we will have a glorified body. If we won't then , re-incarnation is possible, because our souls, can be transferred into another body.
Savvy
From World Net Daily:
"IF SCOTT BROWN WINS, IT'LL KILL THE HEALTH BILL."
WASHINGTON – A senior Massachusetts lawmaker says if Republicans win a special Senate election there next week, President Barack Obama's health care overhaul is dead.
Democrat Barney Frank told reporters Friday: "If Scott Brown wins, it'll kill the health bill."
The Massachusetts congressman said Democratic candidate Martha Coakley should have campaigned harder for the seat held for decades by Edward Kennedy. Nonetheless, Frank said he thinks Coakley will win Tuesday's contest. Latest polls show a close race between Brown and Coakley. Kennedy died last summer of brain cancer and Democrat Paul Kirk was appointed to fill the seat on an interim basis. Brown has said he would be the 41st vote against the health bill.
Anonymous 4:08,
We have a really hot election campaign going on here in Massachusetts to fill the senate seat formerly occupied by the late Senator Ted Kennedy.
If Republican Scott Brown wins that seat, it will be "the shot heard 'round the world."
Just a few days ago, Scott Brown supporters organized a grassrots online one day "Moneybomb" to raise funds for his campign.
The goal was modest.....a half-million dollars. When all was said and done, $1,303,302.50 was collected IN ONE DAY.....and from people all over the country to boot!!!
Obama is suposed to be coming here to Massachusetts tomorrow to support Coakley's badly run campaign.
So far Scott Brown is AHEAD of Coakley.....50%-46%. We are hoping and praying that Scott Brown holds his lead.
I find it very interesting and disturbing that UN troops ordered the physicians and nurses to leave the Haiti makeshift hospital last night. Only Dr. Gupta of CNN bravely stayed on and treated patients all night. Why did the USA hospital ship only leave today. I cannot help but wonder if population reduction goals are at play and if this tragedy helped those who would see the world's population shrink.
Constance
Sorry, I posted my last before noting several excellent posts relating to the same observations from some of you.
We've got a sharp, observant bunch here!
Constance
UMMMM... NOW would be a good time to check share-international
Supposedly Matreiya has stepped foward.
For what it's worth, I was in Aceh shortly after the tsunami. I went with a medical group and we linked up with an Indonesian church group. If you know of any church/mission groups or orphanages or schools in Haiti that might be a good place to make donations. Otherwise I was impressed by what Samaritan's Purse folk were doing in Aceh. Operation Blessing was also very visible in handing out food and supplies and setting up medical triage. The Salvation Army was also active and they still have a good reputation for handling funds and using them for what they are intended.
Rosa
If "Maitreya" is emerging, it must be happening at glacier speed. Conan and Leno are receiving more press.
omots
omots
Very funny!
What's the next spin? Maitreya had appeared as a guest on Leno (shapeshifted of course, humble as he is), leaving his handprint on the mirror in the mensroom.
VW
The following is somewhat surprising considering that it is from the left-leaning BOSTON GLOBE:
OBAMA HERE FOR COAKLEY, TRAILING A DIMINISHED AURA
WASHINGTON - The feverish excitement that propelled Barack Obama and scores of other Democrats to victory in 2008 has all but evaporated, worrying party leaders who are struggling to invigorate the base before Tuesday’s Massachusetts Senate race and November’s critical midterm contests, pollsters and party activists said.
President Obama’s scheduled visit to the Bay State on behalf of Democratic candidate Martha Coakley today, a rescue bid planned suddenly by the White House last week after Republican Scott Brown pulled even or ahead in some polls, will be a key test of the president’s ability to reenergize his dispirited party.
But the challenges to getting an enthusiastic turnout for Democrats in 2010 are huge. Young voters and left-wing Democrats have become frustrated with progress on the Obama agenda in Washington. Polls show that Obama’s popularity among younger Americans is down...read more........
http://www.boston.com/news/nation
/articles/2010/01/
17/democrats_struggle_to_rally_
base_for_upcoming_votes/
Cambridge Police Patrol Officers endorse State Senator Scott Brown for United States Senator
Updated On: Jan 15, 2010 (14:04:00) PRINT/SAVE EMAIL
The 212 member Cambridge Police Patrol Officers Association voted to endorse State Senator Scott Brown for United States Senator in next Tuesday's election against Attorney General Martha Coakley. CPSOA's President released the following letter today:
All Members,
Members of our Association have inquired and requested that we endorse Scott Brown in the upcoming election against Martha Coakley. Ms. Coakley along with some of her campaign workers have talked publicly about how her husband is a retired Cambridge Police Officer, giving appearances that she is being endorsed by the Cambridge Police. This may be an innocent insinuation but most do take this as our giving her our support and endorsement.
Yesterday, the CPPOA Executive Board voted to endorse State Senator Scott Brown in the upcoming election for US Senate. In an 11 to 2 vote, the Executive Board voted overwhelmingly in favor of the endorsement. We do not endorse anyone who advocates changes in the health care that take away any bargaining rights or increases our cost along with our contributions. Senator Brown does not support the Comprehensive Healthcare Reform Bill and promises to be the 41st vote to ensure its defeat. The current leadership at the state house, as we all know and have seen over the past two years, have an agenda to dismantle all of our hard earned bargained benefits and they will continue to dismantle these until there is a complete change from the top down. Martha Coakley is part of this Massachusetts leadership and she will continue with this agenda, only now it will be at the capital level and we need to stop it. So today, we the members of the Cambridge Police Patrol Officers Association endorse Scott Brown for the senate seat vacated by Senator Kennedy.
Fraternally,
Stephen Killion
President Cambridge Police
http://www.massmpc.com/index.cfm?zone=/unionactive/view_article.cfm&homeID=150036
WOW! Purple Shirted SEIU Members Holding Signs at Standout (FOR BROWN!!!)
by: Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno
Sat Jan 16, 2010 at 11:48:11 AM EST
http://www.redmassgroup.com/diary
/6658/wow-purple-shirted-seiu
-members-holding-signs-at-standout
1/17/2010
Before I post note that I try to put a date heaader over my posts because time alone is nnot definitive.
Paul wrote: "The English word "that"
is the Hebrew word "asher", and
the fact that "asher" also became
our English word(s) for not only
"that", but also "what", "as", and
"who", it seems to me that he
was saying:
I am that I am
I am what I am
I am who I am,
and
I am as I am.
Maybe that's way off, I don't know.
But it also strikes me that later in that
same place God tells Moses;
"Tell them I Am has sent you".
End quote!
There are various Jewish translations (when the Hebrew is translated, which is not always), but only one of my six Jewish Bibles has your version, and that one is based on the KJV.
"Ehyeh" is in the future tense so two of my traslations are "I shall be what I shall be." A third is "I will ever be as I am now." Two others just use the Hebrew, "Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh," presumably not tampering with a Divine Name.
Anyone who reads Arabic done a 666 check on this guy's name?
Did the UN rush to do 'damage control' after CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta 'blew the whistle' on the UN ordering desperately needed doctors to leave Haiti on Friday night for 'security' reasons?
Either way, those doctors (who left Dr. Gupta as the ONLY doctor there!) were BACK at 3:00 AM on Saturday morning. God bless you, Dr. Gupta!!!
Go to link below for full story...
http://www.cnn.com/2010
/WORLD/americas/01/16
/haiti.abandoned.patients/index.htm
l?hpt=T2
From the Financial Times (01/17/10)
CLASH OVER HAITI AID FLIGHTS
Fuel shortages, poor communications and a logjam at the Port au Prince airport on Sunday continued to hinder a massive international aid effort to Haiti five days after a devastating earthquake in which more than 100,000 are now feared to have died.
The United Nations humanitarian agency, Ocha, warned at the weekend that humanitarian operations might be forced to shut down in the next few days if fuel supplies were not replenished.
As Ban Ki-moon, UN Secretary-General, headed for Haiti to see for himself the extent of the worst humanitarian disaster that the world body has had to cope with in decades, concern grew over delays in the airlift to the capital’s airport, which is under US control.
Alain Joyandet, French co-operation minister, told reporters at the airport he had protested to Washington via the US ambassador about the US military’s management of the airport where he said a French medical aid flight had been turned away.
In Paris, the foreign ministry tried to quash a looming diplomatic spat by insisting Franco-American co-operation was proceeding as well as possible in view of the extent of the disaster.
Mr Joyandet’s complaint underlined the frustration of relief teams dependent on the single runway at the airport to ferry in supplies if they were to avoid 24-hour delays involved in bringing supplies in by road from the neighbouring Dominican Republic.
The French news agency AFP also quoted people trying to leave Haiti as complaining that the US was giving priority to its own citizens. The US military re-established operations at the airport after its control tower was damaged in the earthquake. Kenneth Merten, US ambassador, told AFP: “We're working in co-ordination with the United Nations and the Haitians. “Clearly it's necessary to prioritise the planes. It's clear that there's a problem.”
With telephone communications disrupted by the earthquake after wireless network towers were damaged, Digicel, the Caribbean mobile company, said before the weekend it was pressing to ferry its technicians and equipment to the island state after four planes were turned back.
Digicel’s chairman, Denis O’Brien, said: “We have been in contact with the United Nations and numerous NGOs who are telling us that restoring Haiti’s communications network is a vital first step in this relief effort.”
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Continued . . .)
The UN, with US support, was taking the lead in guaranteeing law and order in Haiti where hundreds of thousands have yet to receive food. The UN had 3,000 members of a 9,000-strong peacekeeping force in Post au Prince when the earthquake struck and units have since been drafted to the capital.
Canada said on Sunday it was sending 1,000 troops to Haiti to double its military presence there.
Canada would have hundreds of vehicles, seven helicopters and two ships available for the Haitian operation once the reinforcements were in place, Peter MacKay, defence minister, said in Ottowa.
The UN confirmed that Hedi Annabi, its civilian head of mission, and Luiz Carlos da Costa, and Doug Coates, its Canadian acting police commissioner, were among those killed in the collapse of the UN headquarters.
The UN’s World Food Programme said it planned to deliver emergency food rations to 40,000 people a day over the weekend as part of an emergency operation that would eventually reach 2m.
An aircraft carrying more than 20 tonnes of high-energy biscuits landed in the Dominican Republic from El Salvador and was heading to Port au Prince by road.
Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, former US presidents drafted in by incumbent Barack Obama to help with the aid effort, on Sunday appealed to Americans to donate to the relief efforts. Mr Clinton already serves as the UN’s envoy to Haiti.
After Rush Limbaugh, the rightwing talk show host, suggested Mr Obama was using his response to the crisis to burnish his image, Mr Bush said it was no time for politics.”There's a great sense of desperation. And so my attention is on trying to help people deal with the desperation.”
The UN Security Council was meeting on Monday to discuss the situation, and European Union ministers, at an emergency meeting today, were to call for an international conference to help Haiti.
EU ministers will assess the cost of providing relief for which the UN has launched a $562m flash appeal.
“This will have to be co-ordinated with the UN and international financial organisations like the World Bank. The ministers will also examine how much more needs to be done to help Haiti," said Cristina Gallach, EU spokeswoman.
Such vital information on this thread and on the previous thread, from so many. JD, Savvy, Susanna, Craig, VW, etc: thank you, all of you.
Mary Jean
For what it is worth, I am a youth pastor and my meager studies in Hebrew( not in school, just on my own), lead me to understand that I AM can be either, I am what I am, or I will be who I will be. A good english transliteration is, I am the self existent, eternal One. This is what sets God apart and above everything and everyone in His creation. He owes His existence to no one, whereas everything and everyone else owes their existence to Him. It is a statement that He is supreme over all.
ASI
I am currently reading with horror H. G. Wells' THE SHAPE OF THINGS TO COME which seems to be given healthy circulation these days by global governance / New Age folk. H. G. Wells was a major thought leader on global governance / world government concerns. He wanted to eradicate religion as we know it and replace it with a forced uniform one world religion. His book has a horrifying "fictional" scenario where the pope is gassed to death. Given pages 547-548 of the EXTERNALISATION OF THE HIERARCHY by Alice Ann Bailey combined with this, and bearing in mind the Daniel and Revelation prophecies of war against those who keep the faith of Jesus and the commandments of God, we might want to take a closer look at Wells' books THE OPEN CONSPIRACY: BLUEPRINT FOR A WORLD REVOLUTION and his later book, THE SHAPE OF THINGS TO COME.
Constance
I personally thought that both Anderson Cooper and Dr. Gupta did a tremendous job on "keeping them honest" and keeping us informed on the Haiti earthquake tragedy. I agree, God bless Dr. Gupta!
Constance
Constance,
I would will be emailing you privately regarding some information that I think is very pertinent to current events in Haiti. I prefer not to post publicly. The subject line will be Crisis and Opportunity.
Anony 8:48: I would love to see the information. Feel free to email at peacebringer@gmail.com. Can understand if not. Just really curious as to how this will be turned to Global opportunity.
Also noteworthy, the IDF and Israel's contributions to aide are largely ignored outside of Jerusalem post and other Israeli publications
FYI, I can tell you the "Livesays" and others are quite disturbed over the "media" types. A lot do not get past the airport such as Geraldo. Really find Hilary's appearance digusting. Tied up the entire airport for her "photo-op."
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