Wednesday, June 25, 2008

"GLOBAL WARMING" and IRAN TO PULL ECONOMIC ASSETS FROM EU?

UPDATE:  IT APPEARS THAT THE USA MAY BE SUCCUMBING TO EU'S SOLANA'S PRESSURE.  The United States pentagonhas now declared "global warming" a "national security issue."  This is straight out of Javier Solana's March 14, 2008 paper!  HOWEVER, there was an earlier 2003 Pentagon report by "Futurist" (translate:  "Cultural Creative" / "New Ager") Peter Schwartz.  Fascinating.  Is Solana writing for us?  Is Al Gore writing for Solana?  Are Peter Schwartz and the World Future Society writing for all?  Stay tuned!



According to an article which you may read by clicking here, Iran plans to punish the European Union for the sanctions it is imposing against it for the Iranian nuclear power plans.  Javier Solana has been the world's primary designated voice on the Iranian issues.  It should be most interesting to see how Javier Solana, the European Union, and the other agencies designating Solana as their voice will react.  Stay tuned!

33 comments:

Constance Cumbey said...

Detail on the Iranian situation, including threats against the USA may be gleaned from this tinyurl:

http://tinyurl.com/5csehg

Constance

Anonymous said...

Wondering if this will affect Solana's emergency powers he sought and got with Year 2000 Recommendation 666 in the WEU?

Anonymous said...

Holly Peters had a link to a story that EU people were blaming "neoconservatives," allegedly "well funded" for playing a powerful role in the Irish referendum results.

OK, guys, where's the money? Do we have powerful allies we don't know about? Are there people wise to Solana here that we should meet?

http://euobserver.com/9/26386

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:

"Iranian's homosexuals are looking hopefully to Solana for protection."

So are Cuba's. Read this:

http://tinyurl.com/6p4mgj

and this......:

http://tinyurl.com/3tx9lu

Anonymous said...

Sorry for the deficiency in my last post -- the French FM blames UNITED STATES "neoconservatives" for the Irish defeat of the Lisbon Treaty referendum!

http://euobserver.com/9/26386

Anonymous said...

Britain Ratifies EU Treaty

http://tinyurl.com/5gzvsq


EU treaty: Leaders praise Gordon Brown's courage
By James Kirkup and Bruno Waterfield in Brussels
Last Updated: 8:52PM BST 19/06/2008

http://tinyurl.com/5a3jqt

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 12:23,

Those pesky neocons. I'd say rather people who love freedom. I've been reading Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism". He discusses various forms of fascism and says:

"What unites them are their emotional or instinctual impulses, such as the quest for community, the urge to "get beyond" politics, a faith in the perfectibility of man and the authority of experts, and an obsession with the aesthetics of youth, the cult of action, and the need for an all powerful state to coordinate society at the national or global level. Most of all, they share the belief - what I call the totalitarian temptation - that with the right aount of tinkering we can realize the utopian dream of "creating a better world".

See this WSJ article about the Democratic National Convention for an example of this premise in action. Note the trash brigade, greening workshops and attempts "to build habits that will endure long after the convention". Also see: "It's the new patriotism," Mayor Hickenlooper says.


http://tinyurl.com/6b73ej


As I was reading, I realized one of the things about liberalism that I hate is the denial of individual liberty and its forced community. It also occured to me that perhaps this is one reason Biblical Christianity is hated so much - the focus on the individual and one's personal relationship to Jesus Christ and individual salvation. Maybe this is why there is less hostility to Islam. As an outside observer, it seems Muslims are more accustomed to this forced community and totalitarian intrusion in their lives. I believe for them salvation is inshallah but they must conform to the 5 pillars of Islam - which somewhat forces community on them.

Just a thought.

Deannie

Anonymous said...

This moring on the news constance Israel told the US if we dont bomb Iran before bush gets out of office they will.

Anonymous said...

Kofi Annan has a new organization called Global Humanitarian Forum

here is the link to their site:

http://www2.ghf-ge.org/

And and article where Annan calls for "climate justice".

http://tinyurl.com/4gr3ll

"The major polluters come from the advanced developed countries, notably the United States, and it is only fair that the polluters should pay for the damage they cause," Fust said.

What damage you ask: "they are the victims of increasingly violent storms, drought and floods,"

Whoever takes the White House, I foresee massive new taxes on Americans.

Deannie

Anonymous said...

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/

There is a piece on the subliminal over at the Obama campaign website. There are over 1,200 comments about it. Most are probably just comments about Obama's weaknesses, but there may be some interesting information there also.

Dorothy

Constance Cumbey said...

IN THE YEAR 2010 . . .

Interesting facts:

The WEU and the EU have dual coinciding presidencies for both periods:

1. Spain
2. Belgium

Solana, of course, is the Secretary General of the WEU and Secretary General of the Council of Ministers of the EU -- and maybe even more powerful than that if the Lisbon Treaty or an equivalent ever goes through.

2010 is the year of the "EU HEADLINE GOAL", i.e. full militarization of Europe!

Stay tuned!

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

I'm working on getting Holly Peters Pivec back on MY PERSPECTIVE for Friday's radio program . . . had a nice talk with her mom, Linda Peters, Herb Peters' widow.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Well, well well, surprise, surprise. Check this out.

PARTNERSHIP

Medvedev Wants ´Serious´ Pact With EU

Medvedev, who has pledged to continue Putin`s course, signalled a less confrontational course with Europe......read more...

http://tinyurl.com/4bqpxq
_____________________

Has anyone ever read NEW LIES FOR OLD by former Soviet KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn?

http://tinyurl.com/4cwyqh

Rudi said...

Although we only “know in part” and “see through a glass darkly” I can’t pretend to not recognize within these interconnected, VERY current Summits, Proposals and Forums, Alliances,and Dialogues a common thread. As I read, there is an overwhelmingly obvious collaboration of individuals, International organizations, Clubs ( Club of Rome, Budapest, Madrid) Kings, Princes, Presidents, and High Level Group operatives, focusing on the Mediterranean and Middle East- Jerusalem in particular- over the next several months. Several weeks ago, we were examining the Jerusalem Peace Academy and their "Inter-religious Peace Summit" in Jerusalem held June 16-20 2008. The main focus of the Summit included their proposal for peace in the Middle East which specified making Jerusalem a “separate entity, a ‘corpus separatum’, like Vatican City,” (Shared by all) to be run by a single ADMINISTRATOR
“appointed by the religious leaders of the three religions (henceforth called the Judeo-Christian-Islamic Council). …The religious leaders will come to an agreement about rebuilding Solomon’s Temple, …” (Read pdf of proposal above in its entirety. Info above found on pages 123-124 )

http://tinyurl.com/3later

The WorldShift Network,
(Co-founded by, Prof. Dr. Ervin Lazio (Club of Budapest President and Founder) along with Wolfgang Riehn and Johannes Heimrath, presents the following information under the “NEWS” heading on its website:

"From June 26-29 Dr. Ahmed, Dr. Benedikt,(Jerusalem Peace Academy founder,and Inter Faith Foundation) Rabbi Melchior, Dr. Audrey Kitagawa, (Trustee of the Council for a Parliament of World's Religions) Sheikh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi (L'Istituto Culturale della Communitá Islamica Italiana and member of the World Wisdom Council) and Wolfgang Riehn (WorldShift Network) are guests at the Crans Montana Forum in Monte Carlo in order to continue the dialog." (Please see Joyce's previous comments and links)
"There (sic)a special session about the situation in Near East and opportunities for peace will be co-chaired by H.R.H. Prince Turki Al Faisal Al Saud (Chairman King Faisal Center for Research and Islamic Studies). Interreligious dialogue is one of the core concerns of the WorldShift Network.

PLEASE see “Scenario for a Common Vision – Jerusalem Peace Initiative”

http://www.
worldshiftnetwork.org/home/

This "news" from the WorldShift Network site is clearly speaking of the same CransMontana event Joyce brought to our attention in her comments yesterday - the "3rd Annual Dialogue between the Civilizations in the Mediterranean Crans Montana Forum: “The New Role of the Mediterranean”.
Thank-you Joyce!
Check out the list of participants for the “Dialogue Between Civilizations in the Mediterranean” forum and compare it to those names listed
as members of the Clubs of Rome, Budapest, and Madrid. Also compare to the list of members of the High Level Group for the Alliance of Civilizations and the board members for the Jerusalem Peace Academy,leadership within the Global Marshall Plan and Mikhail Gorbachev
World Political Forum.

AOC/HLG members

http://tinyurl.com/67de4g

http://www.jerusalem-academy.org/index.html

http://www.clubofbudapest.org/index.php

Club of Rome NEW WEBSITE!
http://www.clubofrome.org/

http://tinyurl.com/5vd2y8 (COM)

http://tinyurl.com/6eglgj (WPF)

There are innumerable political, environmental, “scientific”, economic, social and
“Spiritual” globally minded individuals and global governance organizations that I could list.
You would notice similar goals, projects and names in all. Dare I call it a Conspiracy????
I also found some new developments today, regarding the European Neighborhood Policy/Barcelona Process, and The Mediterranean Union efforts underway. I hope to post the info before the weekend. The timing, in relationship to the events mentioned above are remarkable to say the least. –Rudi


“The Pharisees and Sadducees came to Jesus and tested him by asking him to show them a sign from heaven. He replied, When evening comes, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,' and in the morning, 'Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. Matthew 16:1-3

Anonymous said...

I know this is off topic, but please, people, pay attention to this. This is so important and it's really amping up. They're planning to spread this...I have been doing some reading which makes me wonder if this 'anointing' is a sort of 'mark', or if it is at least preparing people to accept another 'mark'.

http://tinyurl.com/4gf3ac

http://tinyurl.com/4thcty

You know who backs Bentley? (I've been talking about this so much I can't remember if I posted this here or not.)

http://tinyurl.com/4g724r

Yeah, Bill Hamon and Christian International Ministries.

And you'll get a whole interesting list when you google "Bill Hamon, manifest sons of god". But I'm sure Constance already knows this.

The MSOG is behind the filth that is Todd Bentley's work.

For those of us in North America, it's going on right under our noses. We need to keep an eye on these people and on what they're planning because they are all part of that whole new age/one world religion thingie and they are very, very busy right now, making plans to spread their stuff. If there is anyone we get an opportunity to snatch out of the fire, we need to be alert to the chance to do so.

I've had this thought for a while, about how Jesus likened his church to a 'temple'...and here is this abomination right there inside. Todd Bentley and his friendliness with demons. He invokes them. He helps people invite them into their lives, into themselves. And Christian leaders are ENCOURAGING HIM. This is an outrage.

No, I don't think Todd Bentley is the antichrist, not by any means. However, I do think he is a servant of same. I think he's paving the way.

Anonymous said...

I'm getting afraid this oil non crisis is preparing us for something ominous.

Watch this video on Agenda 21 (Dr. Stanley Monteith is the moderator)

http://tinyurl.com/6f5qjl

Then check out the articles about housing in the suburbs becoming untenable due to gas prices. (If you Google it, you kind find untenable suburban house articles throughout the western world - not just the US.)

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/24/business/exurbs.php

Keep in mind Maurice Strong's quote: "Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class - involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, air conditioning,and suburban housing are not sustainable." and also:

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our job to bring that about?"

When I first saw this video on Agenda 21, I thought it was a bit over the top. Now, I'm not so sure. See how our travel for enjoyment is under attack with the follwing sites:


http://tinyurl.com/46c49p
British Airline Pilots Association

During the last five years air travel has been under attack,being accused
of being the main cause of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other ‘greenhouse
gases’in the atmosphere.
These attacks have made it relatively easy for the UK Government to
double airline passenger tax with scarcely a murmur from the public.
And airline passengers are now being made to feel guilty about taking
holidays abroad.
Pilots have long felt aggrieved that their industry is being used as a
scapegoat for global warming.

And this is from a government organization in Australia that makes public policy recommendations vis a vis global warming.

http://tinyurl.com/4gj92a

Garnault Climate Change Review

"In view of the already significant contribution of aviation to global warming and the ‘deep
cut hard emission targets’ that are already being set by some nations, it is likely that other
more equitable measures will eventually need to be taken to restrict air travel."

And this from a strategy paper by environmentalists:

http://tinyurl.com/67oc74


"If this takes off, so to speak, the repercussions for the politics of air travel and climate could be considerable. One of the great unspoken political certainties will become unglued - we can't act against air travel because "we" all do it so much. We may still be doing it but once it's an undesirable habit, then negotiating alternatives - in fuels or systems or taxation, will become a whole lot easier."

And this article from the UK Telegraph arguing for air travel restrictions:

http://tinyurl.com/6dgweb


"It would also be the clearest possible signal that the golden age of flying is coming to an end. We'll miss it; even we jelly-kneed phobics will miss it. We're living through the greatest period of cheap air travel that there has ever been, or ever will be.

Since no one in government has the courage to tell us that truth, we'll have to tell it to ourselves. Our grandchildren will one day ask if it was true that, in our day, we could fly almost anywhere, any time we wanted, for next to no money. "Yes," we'll say. "And the best thing of all was, we hardly ever crashed.""

You must have all seen that United is laying off 950 pilots and reducing flights.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080623/bs_nm/ual_pilots_dc

Did you catch how the environmentalists demonize an activity and then regulate it into obscurity? Think tobacco.

What is disturbing is the rapidity of the change. It seems world leaders are feeling very confident.

Finally, I was interested to see Hans Kung on the board of Kofi Annan's new organization. Annan's new organization is specifically concerned about climate justice. Kung's expertise is bringing about ecumenical spiritualism. It's all coming together nicely hhhmm?

Deannie

Anonymous said...

Rudy,

This Hans Kung, who sits on the board of Annan's Global Humanitarian Forum, was directly involved in the development of the Dialogue of Civilizations and he wrote the document "Towards a Global Ethic: An Initial Declaration" that was adopted by the Parliament of the World's Religions.

"From Kung's perspective, traditionalist religions have an ethical obligation to cease to exist. In his 1991 book Global Responsibility: In Search of a New World Ethic, Kung declared1 "Any form of ... church conservatism is to be rejected.... To put it bluntly: No regressive or repressive religion - whether Christian, Islamic, Jewish or of whatever provenance - has a long-term future." Furthermore, according to Kung, there will be no room for religious diversity, because, "If ethics is to function for the well-being of all, it must be indivisible. The undivided world increasingly needs an undivided ethic. Postmodern men and women need common values, goals, ideals, visions."

http://tinyurl.com/5adkwc

Deannie

Anonymous said...

Rudi,
Thanks for highlighting that info. I hope everyone takes a careful look at all those links. We are living in amazing days!

I'm traveling and unable to look at more, but I will as soon as time permits.
Shalom and blessings,

Joyce

Anonymous said...

Deannie put together some interesting threads.
Here in Western Australia we have recently experienced a natural gas explosion which has cut off 30% of the gas supply to industry. There is a lot of pain being experienced by businesses. This at the same time that petrol and diesel prices are steadily rising.
How odd that this explosion should happen on a remote island 100 km offshore way up north. Apache are saying that full supply will not be able to be resumed until Christmas.
Many questions have been asked but it has never been suggested that it might have been a terrorist act. They must be absolutely sure that it isn't then. How do they know that?
Anyway it sure fits in with Deanne's main theme - the war on energy...and civilization.

Phil

Anonymous said...

Welcome back Rudi!!

Glad to see you posting again.

Leana

Anonymous said...

Lynn,

Since I was totally clueless with regard to Dr. Bill Hamon or the beliefs he espouses, I decided to run a search on the subject.

I would like to share some links I found that you and others might find interesting and useful if you are not already familiar with them.

I don't know if I would necessarily describe your comments as being "off topic." In the sequel to the controversial book HOLY BLOOD HOLY GRAIL entitled MESSIANIC LEGACY, the authors describe the various political ideologies that have served as "ersatz religions" and admit that the various modern political regimes had not yet been entirely successful in concocting the perfect formula for "activating the religious impulse" of the people.......for the cynical purpose someone once described in terms of "getting people to behave themselves even when no one was looking."

Again, I humbly acknowledge that you are "light years" more informed than I am about Dr. Hamon, so if I am not on the right track here, would you please set me straight? Thanks in advance.

In Christ,
Susanna

http://tinyurl.com/42yvca
http://tinyurl.com/6kkfxv
http://tinyurl.com/5jd9b3
http://tinyurl.com/3g5xr9

For what it's worth, the following is from the Daily Kos:

http://tinyurl.com/5dy342

I found the following data on "Manifested Sons of God" particularly unsettling:

http://tinyurl.com/4n29yl

And this...........

http://tinyurl.com/5vpec5

http://tinyurl.com/3t9vc8


GNOSTICISM
http://watch.pair.com/rain.html'


Constance cumbey's book "A Planned Deception, The Staging of a New Age Messiah," is mentioned here in the same article under the section entitled......

NEW AGE PARALLELS
http://watch.pair.com/rain.html


The Irvingites are mentioned in the following article on "Neo-Montanism, an early Church heresy embraced by Tertullian (155-222 A.D.) Some of the Irvingites who migrated to the Continent were known to have been involved with a man named Eugene Vintras, an apostate Catholic who is regarded as a neo-gnostic/satanist by conservative Catholics.

http://tinyurl.com/3ses7c
___________________________


1835-1901 - Irving founds Catholic Apostolic Church

http://tinyurl.com/6rbwsk

What many may not be aware of is the fact that some of the "Charismatic (Roman) Catholics" are buying into this as well.

If an attempt were made to create a so-called "North American Union" as a counterpart to the European Union/wannabe "Superstate," isn't it possible that the ruling elite might try to exploit the traditional religious impulse in the American people ( we were founded as "one nation under God") by promoting a pseudotheology based on false ecumenism, signs and wonders and "Dominionism?"

http://tinyurl.com/52695y

Lynn, you have almost perfectly reflected C.S. Lewis in his remarks on Fascism and Communism:

"Fascism and Communism, like all other evils, are potent because
of the good they contain or imitate.... And of course their
occasion is the failure of those who left humanity starved of
that particular good. This does not for me alter the conviction
that they are very bad indeed. One of the things we must guard
against is the penetration of both into Christianity.... Mark my
words: you will presently see both a Leftist and a Rightist
pseudo-theology developing -- the abomination will stand where
it ought not...."

--C.S. Lewis

Anonymous said...

Susanna,

CS Lewis was right about a rightist and leftist psuedo theology developing. The leftist theology has been evident to most Bible believing Christians for a long time. The right is a little harder for many to discern.

Check out this article on Berit Kjos' site about dominion theology. You will find C.Peter Wagner and the Apostles group there. He and they were in the video clip provided by Lynn.

http://tinyurl.com/5m8wfa

Deannie

Anonymous said...

Deannie,

You posted:

"CS Lewis was right about a rightist and leftist psuedo theology developing. The leftist theology has been evident to most Bible believing Christians for a long time. The right is a little harder for many to discern."

How right you are! I have long observed the seemingly exclusive "eyes left" mentality when it comes to pointing out heresies.

If the "heresies on the right" are a little harder for many to discern, this is because, as St. Augustine once put it in so many words; if something deceives, it deceives by its likeness to the truth.
___________________

"For if reason be found contradicting the authority of Divine Scriptures, it only deceives by a semblance of truth, however acute it be, for its deductions cannot in that case be true. On the other hand, if, against the most manifest and reliable testimony of reason, anything be set up claiming to have the authority of the Holy Scriptures, he who does this does it through a misapprehension of what he has read, and is setting up against the truth not the real meaning of Scripture, which he has failed to discover, but an opinion of his own; he alleges not what he has found in the Scriptures, but what he has found in himself as their interpreter. "

St. Augustine
Letter 143 (A.D. 412)

It is to be noted that for nine years before his dramatic conversion, St. Augustine was an adherent of Manichaeism, a gnostic system that postulated the existence of two equal but opposite "absolutes" (a.k.a. "two gods").

Augustine never progressed beyond the degree of "auditor" (lowest degree in the Manichaean hierarchy) and after his conversion, he became a staunch defender of the Christian faith against Manichaean encroachments.

Interestingly, it is also to be noted that when Satanists wax philosophical, they often wax Manichaean.

Anonymous said...

Susanna,

I'm glad someone was paying attention. I was kind of getting to the point where I was feeling like a lone voice out here, and I finally said to myself, "Well, I said it...and maybe just because no one replies doesn't mean they weren't listening. Not to mention that I'm probably preaching to the choir, LOL"

I'll have to look up your links maybe this evening or even tomorrow. I've had quite a time with computers today. I foolishly saved a web page that looked like innocent text and I think it was not, so it's been a day of scanning my 2 computers and consulting malware experts. I THINK it's OK. The darned thing was trying to use my dialup modem to connect to the internet through a dialup account we don't even use anymore, but our dialup modem isn't even connected. So the offending file has been deleted and several malware scanners aren't finding anything wrong. So hopefully that's the end of it. I save web pages all the time, but I sure won't be doing that again. (Yes, I scanned it with my resident AV after I saved it, but it didn't find any problem. I started getting suspicious when a dialup icon kept popping up.)

Anyway...I'm burned out on computers at the moment...and just plain battle weary overall!

Do the rest of you feel like that sometimes, too? Just overwhelmed when you think about all that we are surrounded with?

I WILL get to your links. The information I found was shocking and horrifying to me. I feel sorry for any pastors out there who are sincerely just trying to do their best and have to deal with this.

Rudi said...

Hi Deannie-
The Cephas Ministry link with the
"One World Worship by means of the United Nations?" was excellent. Thank you - I had not read it before. I especially found the
Global Ethic/Hans Kung/UN most intriguing.Just last night I was refreshing my memory at
Kungs Global Ethic Foundation Homepage.
I find the "history and aims" with it's "Global Ethic project" of particular interest.

http://tinyurl.com/4rk7ek

http://www.weltethos.org/dat-english/index.htm

As usual, I found myself back on the "Never-land Express" re-visiting the "Earth-Charter", UN Millennium Development Goals, Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and on, and on, and on.
The NGO Committee on Spirituality, Values, and Global Concerns (NY) was eye-opening with it’s upcoming event:
Week of Spirituality, Values and Global Concerns
October 20-24, 2008

http://www.csvgc-ny.org/

One final link (only 13 pages)to the "The Earth Charter and Religion" - Strategy Discussion Paper (Public Version, Dated 2 April 2007) -Rudi

http://tinyurl.com/4dm399

http://www.earthcharterinaction.org/pdfs/ecireligionstrat2007.pdf

Hi Leana -Thanks,I missed you guys! - Rudi

Anonymous said...

Regarding the oil non-crisis as mentioned by Deannie earlier, I just received an email with a link to a video by Lindsey Williams.

Unfortunately it is 75 minutes long (I watched for about 30 mins) and was made in October 2007. What I did watch included a prediction then that gasoline prices would rise to #4 to $5 per gallon in the US in a fairly short while. He was right of course. He also mentions Dr Stan Monteith as a colleague.

http://tinyurl.com/33l95c

How did he come to know so much? He was a chaplain on the oilfields of Alaska all those years ago.

There are many other videos by him available on the site and most are only 8,9 or 10 mins long.

Phil

Anonymous said...

Anonymous,

Regarding the Lisbon treaty, the Irish "NO" vote, and the denial of a referendum in England.... you KNOW the British rank and file is livid when they start singing the praises of Sinn Fein!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous posted:

"Kofi Annan has a new organization called Global Humanitarian Forum"

Could another "oil for food" scam be in the works for when and if the EU starts drilling for oil off the coast of Cuba???

Or is somebody going to have the intestinal fortitude to enforce the Monroe Doctrine if it happens -a la the late JFK???

Anonymous said...

Lynn,

Not to worry. You are not a "lone voice crying in the wilderness" although it might sometimes seem that way.

Thanks to you, I am now learning everything I can about MSOG and all the critters involved.

Anonymous said...

Lynn,

What's up with that "special anointing oil" that had to be "flown in from Africa" mentioned in the article entitled:
TODD BENTLY COMMISSIONED AT LAKELAND OUTPOURING: SOME THOUGHTS???

Why on earth would it have to have been "flown in from Africa?"
_____________________

"Then the commissioning (Knighting) got started…

This was the biggest bunch of nothing I ever saw. All the false Prophets and Prophetess’ gathered on stage, while Peter Wagner led it off by speaking. I won’t repeat what he said, its included in the quotes from the Charisma article above.

They then gathered around Todd anointing him with some ’special anointing oil’ which was flown in from Africa. He shakes his head back and forth–finally falling down. While lying prostrate, with the head still going, they all take turns speaking individual prophecy’s over him.

About the ‘Branham anointing’ on him…portals opening up even more for Todd, the same anointing Christ has is Todds….on and on it went–giving him the power over other nations/countries….Unity is going to come forth in the whole body of Christ because of this Kingly impartation, …"
One of the prophetess' came forward hissing and shaking her head back and forth........"
_________________________

Given the "hissing" of the "prophetess," could it have been "snake oil???"

Anonymous said...

Everyone.

Please visit this site and scroll down.

http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/documents/index.html

Jordan Maxwell.com

He was on www.infowars.com Friday and will rerun over the weekend and archive.

Lots about Catholics, NWO, etc.

FYI.

kck

Anonymous said...

kck,

First of all, what I am about to write is not to be taken to mean that I am questioning your motives. In fact, unless it is proven otherwise, I am going to assume that you were NOT fully aware of the type of material that was included on that link you posted.

After clicking onto the link, I noticed that the material "about the Roman Catholics" consists of an infamous work by Alexander Hislop entitled THE TWO BABYLONS: PAPAL WORSHIP REVEALED TO BE THE WORSHIP OF NIMROD AND HIS WIFE - described on the website as "The very important hidden history of the Vatican."

It was a Franciscan priest, Father Benedict Groeschel who once said that if anyone wanted to say bad things about the Roman Catholic Church, he didn't have to go around making stuff up; all he had to do was to tell the truth.

After clicking onto the link for the online version of THE TWO BABYLONS, one will find that the actual text of the book is preceded by a caveat.

The bottom line here is that while both clerical and lay heretics and evildoers do indeed exist within the Roman Catholic Church, it does not follow - either from history or from the Bible - that the Roman Catholic Church has a monopoly on heresy or evil.

Neither does any other Christian communion.

In my own experience, moreover, I have found that those "accusers of the brethren" who have been the quickest to throw stones at others are usually the ones who have the most to hide themselves.

The following are links to critical evaluations of THE TWO BABYLONS - the last link being to the Ralph Woodrow Evangelistic Association - in case anyone is interested.

http://tinyurl.com/45m2ah

http://tinyurl.com/6gbcye

http://tinyurl.com/5u46fx

http://tinyurl.com/b6ubr

Anonymous said...

Susanna, kck has posted links to this kind of material before about the Catholic church.

www.cuttingedge.org also gets a lot of press at this blog.