UPDATE: I talked at length with Mr. Grosscup before the program without mentioning transhumanism to him. On the program, I decided to raise the subject. I was delighted to learn that he had studied it academically and because of his alarm at its ramifications, entered into his First Amendment advocacy work. I apologize for raising any unfounded suspicions and I am delighted to know that Mr. Grosscup is one of us! He gave our listeners some new and important information about Verichip and a partnership they are forming with the U.S. government to individually microchip and/or tag every animal for individual identification. MY FRIDAY GUEST IS AUTHOR WARREN SMITH AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING BOTH THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT AND THE 'EMERGING CHURCH' AND WHERE IT IS GOING!
Constance
At Dr. Monteith's recommendation, I had invited Hope Marston to do last Friday's radio program on the use of the 911 crisis to abrogate American constitutional First Amendment Rights. Because of the Robert Kennedy speech that evening, I made a decision to reschedule and invited her to join me for tonight's (5 p.m. to 6 p.m. Eastern Time) program. She is traveling and unavailable. She suggested that Ben Grosscup, their regional director do the program instead. I said that would be fine and we are presumably on for tonight.
Googling my guest in preparation for tonight, I have every reason to suspect that tonight's show might be exciting beyond our wildest expectations. He is, it appears, either into or deeply studying the transhuman movement. See my column of July 16, 2007.
Since writing the initial part of this, I have had the opportunity to chat with Mr. Grosscup. We confined our discussion to the Patriot Act and its abuses which in fairness I had promised would be the major focus of the program tonight when I first set it up with Ms. Marston. He does have much to say of real importance about the serious diminishment of our civil liberties and the threat to us all from domestic spying. I will make that the primary focus of our program tonight and see if we can't get him back another time about the "transhuman movement."
It should, needless to say, be a most interesting hour. Stay tuned!
36 comments:
The program today should prove to be very interesting. Perhaps he would comment on the 'Transvison' conference which was held in Chicago the week of August 23, 2007. It was titled: "Transhumanity Saving Humanity: Inner Space to Outer Space" Not surprisingly, the presenters included Barbara Marx Hubbard. Keynote speaker and presenter was Aubrey de Grey, Ph.D. (Acclaimed longevity scientist)
http://www.transvision2007.com/
Sponsored by the World Transhumanist Association
http://www.transhumanism.org/index.php/WTA/index/
National Nanotechnology Initiative
http://www.nano.gov/
On another note, in this article titled,
"The quiet success of European Defence" - article by EU HR Javier Solana published by Schlossplatz (Hertie School of Governance) in spring 2007, 21 March 2007
I found several statements by Javier of particular interest:
"One thing is certain: Europe knows it cannot be an island of peace and tranquillity if we are surrounded by instability and extremism. Dealing with this dynamic security environment has required a paradigm shift"
Within the article body is this quote,- which I believe is from Schlossplatz (Hertie School of Governance):
***"In June 1999, he was appointed to the newly created post as the EU's High Representative for Foreign and Security Policy. Five years later his mandate was renewed and he was furthermore appointed the Head of the new European Defense Agency. Mr. Solana is set to become the EU's first foreign minister when the Constitutional Treaty enters into force."
http://tinyurl.com/ys5lgz
Of interest in todays news:
(I'm afraid to violate the copyright as stated at this Forbes.com Thomson Financial News Content Site but read the article linked to below for an interesting ***STATEMENT ABOUT THE TREATY CREATING A NEW PERMANENT PRESIDENT OF THE EU AND EU FOREIGN MINISTER***)
http://tinyurl.com/2cbqfn
EU-Mediterranean partnership hindered by Middle East conflict:
http://tinyurl.com/2c853r
FM Livni addresses 9th Euro-Med Conference Plenary Session
6 Nov 2007 http://tinyurl.com/3a9lyt
PM Olmert: Annapolis will be a starting point
4 Nov 2007 http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA
Intersting topic, I still have my doubts that all of the "accidents' of data sharing and/or unauthorized releases of data are actually "accidents". If there is enough of this information disseminated throughout the general public, it will produce a drive to uniquely identify the user of any given system, credit card, bank account- ect, ect.
DouginMI
just posted a summary
on the conclusion paper
of the Euromed conference:
Sarkozy or Solana?
http://freiberg.blogspot.com
Check out the " Fair Use" doctrine. Quoting from articles in this comment section is not illegal -- at least not yet!ce
Constan
I don't know where to include this comment: is anyone following the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST)? Watch Phyllis Schlafly talk about it on You Tube. LOST would establish an international organization based in Hamburg to manage the world's oceans - both for navigation purposes and resource exploitation. If you've read The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow, it goes a long way towards control of resources and redistribution of wealth. The Bush Administration is pushing it through the Senate this week.
Quite often I find interesting columns at the Renew America site.
Here is one on the new education law with its promotion of Socialist sex.
The Catholic church object to some of its provisions. Here's the response they got:
"In response to the Church's reaction, Gregorio Peces-Barba MartÃnez, a Socialist heavyweight and one of the authors of Spain's constitution, in August wrote a scathing editorial in the nation's most widely-read newspaper, the left-leaning El Pais. Peces-Barba warned that if the Church doesn't stop attacking the education course, "it will be necessary to address the topic of the actions and situation of the Church and establish a new status, that puts them in their place and that respects the autonomy of the civil authority."
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/duncan/071106
Do I smell and AOC oder coming out of Spain's education proposals?
Dorothy
Hi Dorothy- yes I personally think that is the stench you just perceived - it is winding it tentacles into evry aspect of the global system quickly - I often hear veiled or vague references to it in many speeched or articles.
The OST treaty - that one is almost law - the final push is on.
DouginMI
Yes the final push is on.
And with the on-going help
of the Hollywood Harlot,
in this case Nicole Kidman
and company, the future
that they envision is
one of occult magic and
fortune telling and an end
to all that bothersome
Christianity.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58541
Yours truly,
Paul
So does anyone have any thought about the surge in Ron Paul's popularity?
With his views - I do not think that those who are in pursuit of the global project will let him become a viable candidate which in turn would cause them to impliment yet another "chaotic" incident in the US or will look upon him as an individual to extract those who's views they consider "radical" with the ability to draw votes away and there by electing the candidate they have already crowned?
Just curious
DouginMI
Never forget - all "magik" (mis spelling purely intentional)wands are made from - you guessed it "hollywood"
DouginMI
Ron Paul does seem to have a very active following. In our area Paul signs are up when there are no signs for other pres candidates. He had big contingents in local parades. His followers must be very organized because they stack stack national polls. In addition it appears they have set up fake websites.
http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/11/spoof_forums
or http://tinyurl.com/346egu
Deceptive tactics bother me a lot.
Too many people forget Paul is a small time politician. Generally in the government arena he is a loner, and loners do not get things accomplished. He is not a messiah, a leader who will break the chains of big government, though too many people see him as that because of his plain speaking manner. This does not mean I support any of the candidates at this time.
Frankly I don't know who is leading his crusade, who is supplying the money and organization. Can anyone supply that information? I know that he has attracted some questionable groups to his side. Those who are against the New Age movement need to examine the political part of the movement that comes from the right.
Here a write-up from a former long-time staffer.
http://afk.townhall.com/g/62e31d0c-9338-4b8d-8638-7042ac083cc0 or
http://tinyurl.com/3xupbk
Dorothy
Hi Dorothy,
agreed, most individuals do not understand what a president can and can not do. They listen to the speeches, tune into what they like, drop the rest and rally around the flag.
I do not personally support any of them either. in fact I have not been able to bring myself to vote for presidient in the past 5 elections. There certainly is alot of auxillary support out there for Ron Paul.
I do see by a CNN report - I did not have to wait too long to see what some of the so called "evangelical leaders" support. Pat Robertson picked Gulliani.
Personally - my own thoughts - I still think Bush is not leaving, marshal law will give him up to 7 more years, and yes - I hope I am wrong.
DouginMI
As some of you may know, I was kicked off Israel Forum when I didn't bow to the Dershowitz promoting crowd. Prior to that I wrote much on the New Age movement there. A Christian using the name Savvy started the thread. He's back and doesn't know I was kicked off.
He's written two very interesting long posts on the technological ideas connected with NA. Those interested in Transhumanism will find them fascinating. Also, check out the book
Converging Technologies for Improving Human Performance put out by our government that he refers to.
http://israelforum.com/board/showthread.php?p=259462#post259462 or
http://tinyurl.com/3bxmxl
From one of his comments:
"I came across this site on DNA activation. Apprently New Age Leaders are asking their followers to undergo DNA activation to raise their level of consciousness, between now and 2012.
http://www.lifetechnology.org/blog/2...-and-2012.html or http://tinyurl.com/3ybhh8
If you do decide to sign on to Israelforum, please tell Savvy that I was kicked off.
Dorothy
Doug,
Ron Paul for president!
What if everyone, or even
half of those who didn't
vote in the last five elections
decided to vote and vote for
a true Constitutionalist and
one who has a more level
playing field to work with
because of this ubiquitous
internet with it's as yet un-
regulated pier to pier
networking system which
is exactly where the
Alliance of Civilizations
crowd is getting all it's
chutzpa in numbers, what if
we did vote in a third
party candidate or even a
Rebublican like Ron Paul ?
He's been against the
war in Iraq from the git go
but more importantly he
is pointing the finger at the
right parties: the Fed, IRS,
world bank, and the Neo
Cons who have nearly
wrecked America.
I agree with you Doug,
a vote for any of these
big time candidates is
a waste of the trip.
I'm going to go and try
to atone for my last vote
and the Primaries and
polls don't matter.
Take back America
Throw the Bums OUT
Yours truly
Paul
Hi Paul - yeah, I understand - and I have read some of Ron Paul's stances - we shall see what transpires and what the choices (so called ?) we are given will fall - I also think that there should be as much attention to senate and house races as there is for presidential.
DouginMI
Sometimes it pour information. Some of you might wonder if the New Age movement is dying out because you don't hear it discussed in the MSM. Well, Wikipedia is here to help. Here is a page with links to all manner of New Age activities. And it doesn't even cover the political end of the New Age movement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:New_Age
Dorothy
Green is Universal:
'Traditionally conservative movement moving to embrace ‘creation care’
“This is going to be an issue which evangelicals are going to look at when they cast their ballots,” Cizik said.
"EPA, evangelicals join forces
Cizik was in Minnesota on Tuesday to publicize the NEA’s partnership with the Environmental Protection Agency’s Energy Star for Congregations program, which seeks to persuade churches to become more energy-efficient."
“Climate change threatens human lives, and the environment is clearly on the mainstream of the evangelical agenda,” the Rev. Jim Wallis, president of the liberal evangelical group Sojourners/Call to Renewal, told the assembly.
I found it disturbing in the context of this article to read the reporter saying,
"But only Republican former Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas — otherwise considered among the more conservative candidates in the race — has explicitly aligned himself with the creation care movement."
Anyone interested in what Mike Huckabee has actually STATED in regard to this issue can read about it here:
http://tinyurl.com/328m33
He isn't,in my opinion, saying the same thing the "creative care" "global warming" "evangelical" crowd is yammering about. A more "fair" reference to Huckabee's position would have pointed out that it is "energy independence", (something most of us regard as a necessary goal our country must strive for) not "creation care", "save mother earth" "our planet is in peril" propaganda. I see this as an attempt by the powers that be, to put a kibosh to Huckabee's popularity in the polls.
Pat Robertson's endorsement of Giuliani is another example of an "evangelical" who has by his actions, given a public denial of what he professes to believe. I know Constance probably wasn't surprised by this endorsement.
http://tinyurl.com/36ep45
Matthew 15:18
"But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man."
"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."
2 Corinthians 11:13-14
Proverbs 27:19
"As in water face answereth to face, so the heart of man to man."
Forgot the link to the Green is Universal article-
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21656644/
Russia Freezes Europe Arms Treaty - Javier Solana and NATO Scrambles
Russia has decided to suspend, freeze, temporarily put on hold, scrap, the European arms treaty known as The CFE Treaty (Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty).
Javier, NATO and The U.S. scramble.
Russia is planning to re-deploy security measures near its western flank.
Fast and furious are the times we live in.
Sifting the news
P.S. Constance did you get my email?
Here's one of the links.
http://tinyurl.com/3xzyw3
Doug, it doesn't seem to matter who wins; the general will of Americans is who will tell me what I want to hear, what will you give me, and do not take anything from me, not in my back yard, and have no vision for what it will take to secure the nation's well being. For me, the gesture of my vote will be Ron Paul.
Rudi, some years ago Pat Robertson ran in the NH primary; I didn't vote for him because he made prophecies that didn't come true.
"Cursed be the man that trusts in man. . . The heart is deceitful above all things, and deserately wicked: who can know it."
Yours in Christ:
Setterman
On politics, it was interesting to see George the first, G.W.'s father say on Fox news that our economy is great, Russia is no problem and China is his greatest hope. Wow! My sense of reality is shaken!
Setterman
Hi Setterman, did he also say "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain?"
Just amazing to me, and the fact that there is a sizable audience who believe the lies, in either the political or "religous" camp - amazing - warning:don't drink the kool aid
DouginMI
Anyone remember Pat Robertson's "lions Paw" salute on the cover of Time magazine?
Amen Setterman
Cursed is the man whose trust
in in man.
But it says right near that
"Blessed is he whose trust
is in God" so I don't put
too much trust in Ron
Paul either, just enough
to vote for the man.
It has occurred to me
though that a vote for
anyone who's against
the cntrl ba*k could
lead to a free ticket to
an all seasons camp.
I hope not.
Paul
If you have not done so, I encourage you to read the links that Dorothy left about Ron Paul.
One think I am really watching is how is the media treatment of those who are running.
for example, right now they are portraying Huckabee as the underdog. Unable to win. Anyone who knows anything knows that Americans love an underdog. They love someone defy the odds. So my question became why are they selling us him this way?
Next on Ron Paul. I knew he was not "pro-Israel" but always thought it was equated to "USA first" in his speeches.
The question doesn't become who we want as president more than who does God wants president. If these are in deed the last days I expect it to get much worse. Someone who will be very pro NWO.
I could be wrong.
Dear Constance,
After reading Eric Donaro Rittberg's
"expose" about Dr Ron Paul,
I have to say I'm even more
enthusiastic about him than
I was before.
Mr Rittbergs' whole point
seems to be that Dr Paul is
NOT a shill for AIPAC, et al,
and that he isn't bending
over backwards like Nancy
Pelosi to please them.
AIPAC is not God's
people on earth. Israel,
the true Israel, is not the
Zionist gang of thugs
that currently occupy
the land of Israel.
They were put there
by the Rothchilds and
really, God never has
needed their help.
Jesus kicked those
same type of con men
out of the Temple
two thousand years ago.
Yours,
Paul
Paul, thank you for showing us, by your comments, one branch of Ron Paul's supporters. Perhaps you can tell us why Ron Paul would support you.
Dorothy
Constance,
Please check your e-mail.
Rich
Dorothy,
I hadn't thought of that.
If he supports the Constitution
and returns America to it's
original sovereignty by
getting rid of the Fed, and
thereby paying down the
national debt, which is
essentially a debt to the World
Bank, a debt of interest,
essentially, then he will have
done everything that I
personally would hope
for out of the leadership
of this country, politically
speaking.
He would then be in the
same category as both Abe
Lincoln and John Kennedy,
who both tried to print, did
print, United States money
shortly before they were
murdered.
Baron Rothchild once was
quoted as saying that he
"didn't care who ran the
country as long as he gets
to print the money"
Both Lincoln and Kennedy
were murdered for that reason
and the money that they
printed was immediatly
taken out of circulation,
literally before they were
in their graves.
The solution that this country
needs is in the Constitution.
We only need to apply it.
Ron Paul might be just another
shill for The Crown, I don't
know. But he's saying what I
want to hear, and I don't believe
it's a crazy notion.
This is where America began.
Fighting against the Tyranny
of the bankers. Jesus indentified
them as moneychangers and
kicked them out.
Ron Paul doesn't know me from
Adam so...I just want him
to save my country.
Thanks Dorothy,
Paul Farrar
PS
see:
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/eng.htm
Paul
Form Hebrews Chapter 11:13-16
13: These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
14: For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
15: And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
16: But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
Paul F, until you see my further comments, don't assume you understand my position re Paul. I am not trying to mislead you.
Dorothy
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