Saturday, October 15, 2016

Obama, Hillary, Al Gore, et al firmly intend to implement Agenda 21 - What it really was about

I watched the Hillary Clinton - Donald Trump Presidential contender debate last Sunday night.  Many viewers, I'm sure, focused on the more titillating aspects of that debate -- the sexual connotations and alleged indiscretions of one of the candidates and the spouse of the other one.  I was more concerned with the agenda Hillary expressed, the type of Supreme Court candidates she intended to appoint, and the agenda she intended to pursue.

This is the cover of Elaine DeWar's 1995 book CLOAK OF GREEN.  The book is more current and relevant than ever -- it also is relatively expensive now to obtain on Amazon, but it is REQUIRED READING.  She correctly identified that what the Rio de Janeiro 1992 Earth Summit and "Agenda 21" was really all about was surrender of national sovereignties to a "Global Governance Agenda".  Get this book by any means necessary!


This week Al Gore enthusiastically joined as one of the stumpers for Hillary's presidency.  Donald Trump's Vice Presidential candidate, Governor Mike Pence of Indiana has been openly ridiculed by Hillary Clinton, her vice presidential candidate Governor Caine, and California governor Jerry Brown for "he doesn't even believe in evolution."  Hillary said in last week's debate that she would appoint justices who would maintain Roe vs. Wade (abortion) and "Marriage Equality" (same sex marriage).  Her participation in the Capitol bible study group she alleged organized is a sham -- she did this as part of Doug Coe's operation -- the C Street Center. She would work for "clean energy", i.e. put the Pennsylvania and West Virginia coal miners out of business, plus provided a "full employment plan" for New Age entrepreneurs seeking to enrich themselves by forced conversions to their "new products."

The televised reports that Hillary was a misjudged Christian who had organized a Capitol bible story is a sham.  That was done as part of her membership in Doug Coe's "Fellowship".  That was the organization founded by Abraham ("Abram") Vereide that had many in and of itself mystical occult links (Norman Grubb, Rufus Jones, E. Stanley Jones, Roland Gammon, Glenn Clark, and others). I wrote about much of that in past blog and NewswithViews articles, that operation thoroughly compromised itself with Institute of Noetic Sciences, Dalai Lama and other occult interests.  The article series here and there was entitled "The HiJacking of Evangelicalism".  As far as "prayer" is concerned, you spell it your way P-R-A-Y and they'll spell it their way P-R-E-Y -- at least based on my experiences, that is my opinion.  God help those who were/are innocently involved.

Far from "disappearing", the New Age revolution is now in full throttle.  The billionaire funded operations of the Tides Foundation, Threshold Foundation, and cohorts are heating up with their funded projects ranging from "Occupy Oakland" to carbon credit tracking.  Barring divine intervention, the delayed hopes they had for 1982 and beyond are about to happen.  Here's what brilliant Canadian researcher/author Elaine DeWar observed about that process in her 1995 book, CLOAK OF GREEN:

By the summer of 1991, the persons I'd met following the story
of Paiakan had long since turned their attention to this meeting.
Advertised as the World's Greatest Summit, Rio was publicly described
as a global negotiation to reconcile the need for environmental
protection with the need for economic growth. The
cognoscenti understood that there were other, deeper goals. These
involved the shift of national regulatory powers to vast regional
authorities; the opening of all remaining closed national economies
to multinational interests; the strengthening of decision making structures
far above and far below the grasp of newly minted national
democracies; and, above all, the integration of the Soviet and Chinese
empires into the global market system.
There was no name for this
very grand agenda that I had heard anyone use, so later I named it
myself-the Global Governance Agenda.
Page 249, Cloak of Green.

I'm going to be talking about these topics on my later this morning program.  Please join us at www.TheMicroEffect.com.  You may also consider entering the chatroom and/or calling in live with questions at 208-935-0094.

Stay tuned!

CONSTANCE



Comments:
WikiLeaks document dumps have revealed the rank bias against Catholics and Evanglicals on the part of the Hillary Clinton campaign.

In previous threads on this blog, a suspicious "Catholic" organization was discussed. It was called "Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good." WikiLeaks has very recently validated the suspicions voiced on this blog.

According to WikiLeaks, Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good was one of at least two "Catholic" dummy organizations set up by John Podesta to exert influence over Church teaching in the wake of the Obama administration's HHS mandate.

Head of U.S. Bishops Blasts Team Hillary for Meddling in ‘Internal Life of the Church’

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/14/head-u-s-bishops-blasts-team-hillary-meddling-internal-life-church/
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Catholic and Evangelical Leaders Pile On Outrage Over Clinton Campaign ‘Bigoted,’ ‘Christophobic’ Attacks

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/14/catholic-evangelical-leaders-pile-outrage-clinton-campaign-bigoted-christophobic-attacks/
 
Fake Catholic Groups and the "Catholic Spring" Emails

October 13, 2016

http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Item/5125/Fake_Catholic_Groups_and_the_Catholic_Spring_Emails.aspx
 
Thanks Susanna,
great posts
 
Hi everyone, just received this email below ...please pray for Ray.

AN URGENT PRAYER REQUEST FOR RAY YUNGEN

Dear Lighthouse Trails friends:

This is an urgent prayer request. Ray Yungen, our author and dear friend, was not released earlier this week from the hospital after a 7-day cancer treatment for his recently diagnosis of Hairy Cell leukemia. He began running high fevers and uncontrollable shaking. This morning, Ray has been admitted to the Intensive Care Unit because his system (kidney's etc) seems to be shutting down. We have just spoken with his ICU nurse there, by phone, who said that he is in perilous condition. Please pray for this dear brother. We know the Lord loves him, and Ray loves the Lord. We know we can trust the Lord with our lives, but we also know the Bible tells us to pray for the sick. It will be very hard on many people, including the authors and editors at Lighthouse Trails, to lose Ray as he has been a tremendous source of encouragement and spiritual support throughout these past 15 years.

Thank you in advance for your prayers.
The Editors at Lighthouse Trails

 
Pat Robertson Attacks Creationists Again

For many years, well-known Christians like 700 Club host Pat Robertson have claimed that belief in a young Earth makes Christianity look ridiculous. They even say that a literal interpretation of Genesis actually keeps people from turning to Christ for salvation.

Most recently he said this on the 700 Club: “The truth is, you have to be deaf, dumb and blind to think that this Earth that we live in only has 6,000 years of existence.” He also affirmed he believes in evolution: “There was a point of time that there was a particular human being that God touched — and that was the human that started the race that we are now part of.”

http://www.creationmoments.com/node/6730
 
Just my opinion...

This presidential election is THE most important in our nation's history. So, do any of us really have the luxury or option of staying home and not voting on November 8th?

We should be less concerned with 'Right vs. Left' and more concerned with right vs. wrong. As Christians, don't we have a moral responsibility to choose an anti-Globalism, pro-life candidate over a pro-Globalism, pro-abortion candidate?

The mainstream media's 'mission' to sway the outcome of this election 24 hours a day / 7 days a week should be absolutely transparent to anyone who is 'awake.'

Donald Trump is one man fighting 'Goliath'... the One World Order Global Elite (made up of both Democrats and Republicans). He is surrounded by enemies, who want to destroy him politically... and even kill him. Say what you want about Trump... but no one can argue the fact that he is a man of tremendous COURAGE.

Although both candidates are flawed... I would rather vote for someone who may have said inappropriate WORDS 11 years ago... than vote for a woman who has a well documented record over the past 25 years of attacking her husband's RAPE victims and attempting to destroy their credibility. (Imagine the irony... the first woman President who in reality does not actually support women?)

If you believe that everything is fine in America... vote for Hillary. However, if you believe that America is going to hell in a hand basket and moving far away from God... why not give a proven successful businessman the opportunity to see if just maybe he can (with God's help) turn things around?

 
Catholic bishops condemn ‘ugly’ and ‘anti-Catholic’ emails between Clinton team

October 14, 2016

Catholic bishops and political campaigners alike have condemned emails from Hillary Clinton’s campaign team which attack Catholicism.

The emails, released by Wikileaks this week, are disparaging about Catholic “middle ages” teachings.

Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia called the emails “ugly” and “contemptuously anti-Catholic”.

He was particularly angered by an exchange of emails between John Podesta, chairman of the Clinton campaign, and Sandy Newman, president and founder of the campaign group Voices for Progress.

Newman wrote: “This whole controversy with the bishops opposing contraceptive coverage even though 98 per cent of Catholic women (and their conjugal partners) have used contraception has me thinking … There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle-ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic church.”

In another email, John Halpin of the Centre for American Progress mocked the conservatism of Catholics, especially converts: “They must be attracted to the systematic thought and severely backwards gender relations and must be totally unaware of Christian democracy.” In a follow-up email he added: “They can throw around ‘Thomistic’ thought and ‘subsidiarity’ and sound sophisticated because no one knows what . . . they’re talking about.”

On his diocesan website Archbishop Chaput wrote ironically: “Of course it would be wonderful for the Clinton campaign to repudiate the content of these ugly WikiLeaks emails. All of us backward-thinking Catholics who actually believe what Scripture and the Church teach would be so very grateful.”

A less forceful statement from Archbishop Joseph E Kurtz of Louisville, Kentucky, President of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, talked of the importance of freedom of religion, which “ensures the right of faith communities to preserve the integrity of their beliefs and proper self-governance”.

“There have been recent reports that some may have sought to interfere in the internal life of the Church for short-term political gain. If true, this is troubling both for the well-being of faith communities and the good of our country,” he wrote.

“In our faith and our Church, Christ has given us a precious gift. As Catholics, we hold onto our beliefs because they come to us from Jesus, not a consensus forged by contemporary norms. The Gospel is offered for all people for all times. It invites us to love our neighbor and live in peace with one another. For this reason, the truth of Christ is never outdated or inaccessible. The Gospel serves the common good, not political agendas.”

Archbishop Kurtz concluded: “Politicians, their staffs and volunteers should reflect our best aspirations as citizens. Too much of our current political discourse has demeaned women and marginalized people of faith. This must change. True to the best hopes of our founding fathers, we are confident that we can and will do better as a nation.”

A Catholic political group, catholicvote.org, has called on Hillary Clinton’s campaign spokeswoman, Jennifer Palmieri, to resign. Its president, Brian Burch, said: “Hillary Clinton has already called half of her opponents’ supporters ‘a basket of deplorables’ and ‘irredeemable’ and now it comes out that her campaign spokeswoman dismissively question[ed] the sincerity of Catholic Americans’ faith.”

He continued: “Everyone has a unique faith journey, and it’s just insulting to make blanket statements maligning people’s motives for converting to another faith tradition. Had Palmieri spoken this way about other groups she [would be] dismissed. Palmieri must resign immediately or be fired.”.

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2016/10/14/catholic-bishops-and-campaigners-condemn-ugly-and-anti-catholic-emails-between-clinton-team/
 
Thank you Paul (from the previous thread).

There's an Update Brazil #46 out now, and it's even better (and more chilling). It's in a question / answer format, and touches on MANY things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vedW0DxFYuQ

War before the election? Possibly. War to provide cover for the wikileaks relevations. It sounds unlikely, but this corrupt machine is capable of anything.

 
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Praying for everyone in the USA at election time. Do you think anyone would notice if an Australian came and voted too? You'll need as many votes as you can get for Donald as all hell will break loose if Hillary gets in (literally).

From OZ

 

PLEASE take the time to watch this panel/discussion video by Judicial Watch (a bi-partisan government watch dog group), that covers the investigation by the FBI under the direction (and orders) of James Comey regarding Hillary Clinton's email scandal. All panel members are experienced in this field ... two have written well researched and documented books on the Clinton's corruption, etc.

PLEASE pass this along to anyone that you know of that is still "sitting on the fence" ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsgapaYCs40
 
To all:

I hope everyone will take the trouble to watch the video RayB linked us to. If it is from Judicial Watch, we can "take it to the bank." Thank you RayB!

Everyone might also want to check out the following WikiLeaks revelation. It validates Donald Trump's statement that we need "to investigate the investigation" into Hillary Clinton's e-mail scandals.

Report: State Dept Wanted ‘Quid Pro Quo’ with FBI to Change Hillary’s Classification Markings

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/15/report-state-dept-wanted-quid-pro-quo-with-fbi-to-change-hillarys-classification-markings/
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FBI Served with Request for Hillary’s Backup Device…Object Is in FBI’s Possession

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/13/fbi-served-with-request-for-hillarys-backup-device-object-is-in-fbis-possession/

 
I almost fell off my chair as I read this article quoting Philadelphia Archbishop Charles Chaput!!!

Philly Archbishop: Hillary Clinton a ‘Scheming, Robotic Liar’

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/15/philly-archbishop-hillary-clinton-scheming-robotic-liar/
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While Archbishop Chaput is no fan of Donald Trump,

Still, when November 8 rolls around, one Catholic prelate has made it clear he won’t be “with her.”

My own personal view is that while Presidents come and go, Supreme Court Justices are appointed for life!

If we want a clique of radical liberal black-robed hacks pretending to be Supreme Court Justices while legislating from the bench and chipping away at our Constitutional rights - including freedom of religion - then Hillary is the one to vote for.

But if we want a President who admits he is not a saint, but hears the voice of the people and will appoint Supreme Court Justices who will protect, preserve and defend the Constitution of the United States, then Trump is our man. At first I had my doubts about a Donald Trump Supreme Court until I saw a list of candidates Trump is considering for the United States Supreme Court. The late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Scalia is his standard bearer.

As a closing thought I would like to add that as repulsive as Donald Trump's lewdspeech was in terms of a video which recorded locker room jock talk to Billy Bush about eleven years ago (actual sexual misconduct and assault allegations have not yet been convincingly proven), I reject the media-manufactured "moral equivalence" between things Trump SAID and things Hillary and Bill Clinton have actually DONE!!!

When Donald Trump's eleven-year-old "poopy talk" is compared with Hillary Clinton allowing the Russians to gain control of 20% of our uranium reserves after a substantial donation was made to the Clinton Foundation, I don't think it takes rocket science to determine which candidate is fit for the White House and which candidate is fit for the "Big House."



 
Conservative Christians, Be Assured That President Hillary Clinton Will Declare War On You

Michael Brown
Posted: Oct 16, 2016

http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelbrown/2016/10/16/conservative-christians-be-assured-that-president-hillary-clinton-will-declare-war-on-you-n2232947
 
Susanna said ...

"As a closing thought I would like to add that as repulsive as Donald Trump's lewdspeech was in terms of a video which recorded locker room jock talk to Billy Bush about eleven years ago (actual sexual misconduct and assault allegations have not yet been convincingly proven), I reject the media-manufactured "moral equivalence" between things Trump SAID and things Hillary and Bill Clinton have actually DONE!!!"

Susanna,

Very well stated. I don't like or use this type of "jock talk," but have heard it quite often my entire life ... much of it by "fine upstanding citizens." One in fact, was a two term Governor and U.S. Senator from a major mid-west state, that had the public reputation for being a great "family man." As far as I know, this man was faithful to his wife, but seemed to like this type of talk ... I hreard it personally on a number of occasions. There is something weird about men that seem to like to talk like this ... maybe it makes them feel "macho?"

As a side note, years ago, I worked one the road where I came in contact with a lot of people, including women. Trust me, men aren't the only ones that are guilty of trash talk. I often heard things said by women that would make a sailor blush. And from what I've heard and read re: Hillary Clinton, she could win a Nobel Prize for this if one existed!

This election is pivotal; we will either go forward as a sovereign, independent nation, or we will morph into the despotic One World Government the elite has planned for us. BREXIT was a blow that they are still reeling from, a Trump victory could set their plans back for decades!
 
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/17/soros-paid-al-gore-millions-to-push-aggressive-us-action-on-global-warming/
 
The biblical prophetic speaks to us having a one world government, even if we do not like the idea. And Hillary is all for that globalist dream.

I have also heard of the presidents prophesy, that numbers the presidents with Obama being the last (not a biblical prediction) has any one heard of it?

I think we may very well end up with Hillary stealing the election, yet we hear and see indications that she may be seriously ill? So if she doe win by deception, then dies early in office, we will have the grandest of events with a Jesuit president and a Jesuit Pope.

If not that dissolving of the republic, then we may see it's end by war starting, with Obama declaring martial law, ending our democracy.



 
Jeff Nyquist had a vivid dream / vision back in the late 90s I believe. He said it was either a vision, or the pizza he ate just before bed. It might be out there on the internet somewhere. It implied that after Bush, the Republic ended.
 
Trump has been accused by CNN of whining because he has said the election is rigged. Of course he is right. There is a mad rush to register immigrants to vote. Courts have said it is discriminatory to require ID. There have been numerous reports about voting machines that change the vote once it is cast. Now our Dept of Homeland Security is supposedly securing the elections, but who heads up that Dept. Jeh Johnson, an Obama stooge.

We can focus all we want on our obligation to vote, but we cannot forget the old adage, it's not who votes but who counts the votes. There is one more item, our electrol college. Even if there are an overwhelming number of popular votes for Trump, we know that the electrol college is not bound by the popular vote. If there is a large discrepancy it could lead to riots.

There is always the war car, which Obama can play at the last minute and get us involved in something much larger in Syria or elsewhere. There could also be more race riots, throwing US into a State of Emergency.

Whatever Wikileaks is waiting to release, I hope it is so go that even the most loyal Clinton supporter will be forced to withdraw their vote.

I agree with Donal Trump's words on globalism, manufacturing and the Fed manipulating rates to help the Democratic Party. His character leaves a bit to be desired. As far as his escapades with women, who knows? He hasn't been charged with rape to my knowledge but if even a small percentage of the sexual assault charges are true, he still wouldn't be as bad as the Clintons who crucify the rape victims of Bill. That does not say much for our country, that we have two candidates that have a history of sexual assault and rape and then covering them up.

His words have condemned him, even if it was just talk. It's unfortunate that with all of his wealth and power he felt the need to talk like that. That's very poor judgement and shows a certain insecurity. A man who is secure in himself would not need to speak that way. The truth is that most politicians do this sort of thing and feel the need to have conquest with women, including the beloved JFK.

The election really seems to be about God's judgment on USA. We have not defended the innocent victims of abortion. We have not stood up against our unjust wars. We have not stood against sexual immorality. We have close our eyes to the corruption of our leaders and now we are reaping the results. I'm not speaking of every individual but/ rather corporately we have not done enough as a nation to ask God to intercede and stop this.

In the words of Solomon, if a people called by my name would humble themselves. pray and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear them from heaven, forgive their sin and heal their Land. Can God use Trump? He used Nebuchadnezzar to judge the Kingdom of Judah and he used Cyrus to give Judah back a Temple and to end their exile.

All of you who believe in the Bible, turn to God and pray for his mercy on our nation. Our sins are heaped high and we don't really deserve it but he is filled with compassion. If he doesn't heal our land, maybe he will give those of us who are grieved the strength to withstand whatever is coming?
 
BREAKING...

Assange's internet link intentionally severed by state party - WikiLeaks

October 17, 2016

WikiLeaks has activated “contingency plans” after its co-founder’s internet service was intentionally cut off by a state actor, the media organization said in a tweet.

The internet is one of the few, if not only, available ways for Julian Assange, who has been locked up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London for more than four years, to maintain contact with the outside world.

Facing extradition to Sweden over allegations of rape, which he denies, the Australian computer programmer has been holed up in the embassy in West London since 2012.

He claims the extradition is actually a bid to move him to a jurisdiction from which he can then be sent to the US, which is known to be actively investigating WikiLeaks.

The unverified claims of state sabotage come as WikiLeaks continues to release damaging documents, most recently thousands of hacked emails from Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager John Podesta.

Earlier this month, Assange claimed his organization would aim to publish documents “every week” in the run up to US Election Day on November 8.

Clinton’s campaign has made unsubstantiated claims that WikiLeaks is working with the Russian government to help defeat the Democrat in favor of Trump.

Last week the FBI reissued a statement saying it was working to “determine the accuracy, nature and scope” of cyber intrusions, but did not name any suspected perpetrators.

The ninth release of Podesta emails occurred on Sunday, bringing the total number of leaked files to over 12,000.

Among the hundreds of emails released are discussions about Clinton’s appeal among black voters, her email apologies, and Chelsea Clinton being described by one of her father’s longtime aides as a ‘backstabber’.

The batch also comes amid revelations of Clinton’s cozy relationship with the mainstream media, and how they work closely to control the media landscape and set up stories that show her in a favorable light.

Earlier this month, it emerged that Hillary Clinton reportedly wanted to “drone” WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange when she was the US secretary of state.

According to True Pundit, Clinton and the State Department were under pressure to silence the whistleblower in the months before WikiLeaks dumped some 250,000 diplomatic cables from 1966 to 2010, dubbed CableGate.

Unidentified State Department sources claimed Clinton asked “can’t we just drone this guy?”

https://www.rt.com/news/362985-julian-assange-internet-link/

 
Dan Bryan,

The number 4 is the number of the world (as in 4 directions north, south, east, and west for instance), the globe, in other words. Obama is #44 - is that a 4 doubled like added emphasis? And it appears to me that America now belongs to the world because our sovereignty is toast. America has turned it's back on God, wanting to go back to being great again, while not repenting and trusting the Lord of the Bible upon which she was founded, the Lord who made her great to begin with. 44...40 + 4. The number 40 in the Bible is the number of trials, tribulations and a 4 added to it...tribulations and the world coming together in those numbers........timely don't you think?

I don't know what others make of it, but it these numbers seem to be adding up to me.
The world seems ready for the Bible's prophecies to finish. They have been fulfilling all along, and many things are ripe for a finale when I read about it from the Bible.

Your thinking is a lot like mine in what you are mentioning.

Is America for the history books now? Is God done giving her mercy to continue as a nation and now His mercy reserved only for those who will not submit to the devil's master plan for the globe?
I think these are right questions to be asking.
 


I think God is done warning.





The jig is up.
 
PLANNED PARENTHOOD AT 100 - THE GROWING ABORTION BUSINESS AND LAWLESSNESS

On Planned Parenthood’s 100-year anniversary, October 15, tens of millions of Americans have now seen the shocking undercover video footage of the biggest abortion provider’s top-level leadership--medical directors, national program directors, even the Senior Director of Medical Services--callously negotiating the harvesting and sale of aborted fetal body parts.
Even Planned Parenthood’s political allies recognize that there is nothing defensible about Planned Parenthood’s illicit trade in tiny baby hearts, lungs, livers, and brains.
The board of George Soros’ Open Society Foundation said it best when they observed that the videos of senior leadership’s participation in fetal trafficking have “upended” Planned Parenthood, and that “the long-term consequences involve the substantial eroding of Planned Parenthood’s credibility and reputation.”
Planned Parenthood has never been able to deny the identities or statements of its own leadership, now captured on camera for all of history to see, although it has tried strenuously to assert that its leadership’s statements on the tapes are somehow extra-contextual.
Yet Planned Parenthood has never been able to explain in what context it is appropriate to “crush below” and “crush above” on some parts of a late-term fetus, or employ “a less-crunchy technique” of abortion in order to ensure the most valuable body parts can be harvested intact, or how it can be legal to “do a little better than break even” or “generate a fair amount of income” through supplying fetal body parts. While it is legal to donate human fetal organs and tissues, state and federal law prohibits their sale for profit.
The House Energy and Commerce Committee’s Select Investigative Panel is the only official investigation taking a comprehensive, nationwide look at Planned Parenthood’s harvesting and sale of aborted fetal organs and tissues.
The Panel has so far found probable cause that Planned Parenthood and its business partner StemExpress profited off the sale of fetal organs, used fraudulent and invalid consent forms to convince patients to give permission for harvesting, and engaged in “systematic violations” of HIPAA for five years in order to help StemExpress fulfill its order quotas for body parts.
StemExpress, a privately-held, for-profit biotech company in Placerville, Calif., harvests fetal organs at abortion clinics for resale to other research labs and publicly referred to its 5-year-long “business relationship” with Planned Parenthood. Less than a month after StemExpress was founded, it signed a contract with Planned Parenthood Mar Monte, the biggest and wealthiest Planned Parenthood affiliate in the entire country.
Inside Planned Parenthood’s clinics, StemExpress’ own technicians did all of the work of harvesting the body parts from abortions, from start to finish. StemExpress advertised this “plug-in solution” and “turn-key” business model as a “financially profitable” venture for the Planned Parenthood clinics. Planned Parenthood provided StemExpress with access to patients’ private medical charts in order to identify patients whose pregnancies could fulfill StemExpress’ customer demand for specific numbers, types, and gestational age of body parts.

 
(Continued...)

The Planned Parenthood-StemExpress contract “terms of services” are chilling, and appear unlawful on their face:
“The term ‘product of conception’ (‘POC’) means any fetal organ or other fetal or placental material taken from the human uterus during an abortion.”
“The reasonable costs associated with the services specified in this Agreement shall be fifty-five dollars ($55.00) per POC determined in the clinic to be usable.”
“Planned Parenthood Mar Monte will invoice Stem-Ex [StemExpress] monthly for the number of POC’s...procured by Stem-Ex. Stem-Ex will pay Planned Parenthood Mar Monte within two weeks of receipt of the invoice.”
Amazingly, the contracts do not contemplate any invoicing between Planned Parenthood and StemExpress for “reimbursement” of specific costs: the only payments mentioned are for the number of “usable” fetal organs that StemExpress can procure.
Planned Parenthood Mar Monte did 18,035 abortions last year--if each abortion yielded just one “usable” “product of conception” for StemExpress, Planned Parenthood Mar Monte stood to gain nearly $1 million every year from its sale of tiny baby hearts, lungs, and brains. StemExpress, for its part, would mark up the fetal organs 5 times from the $55 it paid Planned Parenthood to a final $595 price to its customers.
Perhaps this is why StemExpress is now committing criminal contempt of Congress, rather than hand over key financial documents on its partnership with Planned Parenthood in response to Congressional subpoenas from the Panel. As the political fog from the initial media controversy begins to clear, it is becoming more and more evident that Planned Parenthood is not only guilty of the allegations that the videos document, but has been far more deeply and troublingly complicit in the criminal trafficking of fetal organs and tissues than anyone first imagined.
Planned Parenthood is not above the law, and as more incriminating details about its baby parts sales continue to surface from the Select Investigative Panel, it is time for law enforcement to bring Planned Parenthood’s 100 years of lawlessness to an end.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/15/planned-parenthood-at-100-growing-abortion-business-and-lawlessness.html
 
Assange's internet link intentionally severed by state party - WikiLeaks

October 17, 2016

https://www.rt.com/news/362985-julian-assange-internet-link/
 
PLANNED PARENTHOOD'S 100TH ANNIVERSARY OCTOBER 15TH - THE GROWING ABORTION BUSINESS AND LAWLESSNESS

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/15/planned-parenthood-at-100-growing-abortion-business-and-lawlessness.html

 
REPENT, the 'new beginning' is near!....there is no end if you choose life........
 
From Newsweek...

Obama Orders Government Plan for ‘Extreme Space Weather’

U.S. President Barack Obama has called for preparations to be made for “extreme space weather events,” such as solar flares capable of causing catastrophic damage to Earth’s critical infrastructure.
An executive order was issued Thursday, October 14, that outlined the country’s contingency plan in the event such weather events lead to significant disruption to systems like the electrical power grid, satellite operations or aviation.
“Space weather has the potential to simultaneously affect and disrupt health and safety across entire continents,” the order states.
“It is the policy of the United States to prepare for space weather events to minimize the extent of economic loss and human hardship.”
Obama’s order warns that if large portions of the nation’s electrical power grid is knocked out by a large solar flare, it would result in cascading failures that would affect key services, such as water supply, healthcare and transportation.  
Preparing a response for an event of this kind is described in the order as an “all-of-nation endeavor” that requires cooperation between government agencies like NASA, the media, academia, the insurance industry, non-profits and the private sector.
The space weather referred to in the order also includes temporary disturbances to the Earth’s magnetic field caused by solar activity, as well as something known as solar energetic particles, which are ions and electrons ejected from the sun.
Solar flares are common occurrences and rarely cause any knock-on effects on Earth. They refer to brief eruptions of intense energy on or near the Sun’s surface that are typically associated with sunspots.
Perhaps the most famous incident of space weather having dramatic consequences on Earth was a solar storm in 1859 known as the Carrington Event. Auroras were seen as far south as the Caribbean and telegraph systems across Europe and North America failed.
Following the publication of Obama’s order, the secretary of energy is now set to consult with the secretary of homeland security to test and evaluate devices that could mitigate the effects of severe storm weather.


http://www.newsweek.com/obama-orders-government-plan-extreme-space-weather-509891
 
I received sad news tonight via Grant of New Zealand that an old friend and co-researcher on New Age Movement issues, Ray Yungen, died Saturday night. This is a tremendous loss to those doing honest research and warnings on New Age Movement issues.

Constance
 

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The number 4 is the number.......
I personally do not pay any attention to the study of numerology.
I think it may be interesting but in this infinite creation assigning 10 digits to its aspects one will see and find so many coincidences and so much synchronicity it is of absolutely no value to me, and have not seen one person come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ from its preaching or study.

We have had people die in my family every 15 years.
2015 it did not happen. Why? Was last year's skip a blessing or a curse?

Your questions can be answered in the example of God's long suffering toward that stiff necked and rebellious people, the Hebrews. When God's people cried out to him they were delivered. So we get what we deserve?????

I see the church playing the same game they played with Bush. They are looking for a strong man (women) to save them out of their troubles just as Israel did.

It was in the height of the glory of Solomon's temple God states this admonition that every one quotes:

2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name,.. humble...pray........ I will hear from heaven.

What we DO not quote or consider is the preceding conditional verse.

2 Chronicles 7:13
If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;

So as I see it the Lord may once again have to 'get our attention' with famine pestilence and lack and even war before he gets our attention....? before we will get on our knees and humble ourselves before him.....? before we cast our filthy prideful crowns of 'American Exceptionalism' at his feet?

 
Anonymous Anonymous said... 10:11 PM
From Newsweek...
Obama Orders Government Plan for ‘Extreme Space Weather’

U.S. President Barack Obama has called for preparations to be made for “extreme space weather events,” such as solar flares capable of causing catastrophic damage to Earth’s critical infrastructure.

It is the plan for American subjugation. Either Russia will be egged on to blast us with an EMP attack .... and if they don't we may do it ourselves and blame the space elves? In either case chaos and anarchy are their plan so that we scream for the elite to return from their tunnels and shelters underground and give us safety and security. If they are talking about it..... I believe IMO they intend to do it.
 
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Here, I think, is a possibility that is increasing in probability currently:

Russia escalates things to the point of sinking one of our ships, detonating (via terrorist proxies either here or abroad) a suitcase nuke or some other nasty device upon American/Western targets, or executing a direct, limited nuclear attack on various American/Western targets (one or two cities, or cruise missile attack on our ABM systems, lots of scenarios here), thereby bringing us to the table to negotiate some kind of "peace" agreement to their liking.

Make no mistake: Russia is willing and capable of doing such things. And we are NOT willing to retaliate in kind, because of the long-held belief by our decision-makers (ESPECIALLY the one with the finger on the button currently) that a nuclear war is not only unwinnable, but unthinkable. Of course he would negotiate some kind of peace arrangement. And it will not be to our advantage. It might actually be some kind of arrangement that is basically a surrender except by name. Despots and tyrants rarely like calling things what they are.

 
Dan Bryan,
Numerology is a game some people play. That is a secular exercise that isn't worth fooling with. Never got into that, myself.
But that is not what numbers in the Bible do. They are well above that, as is every word the Lord has spoken and put in His canon....and for His use, not ours.

They add up and they point a direction. Are they interesting? Yes. Are they what we count on above God's word. No.
Because it is allll of the many factors in the current scene in the world that are what we look at (watch as Jesus said) that we are to add up in regard to prophecy. The numbers in the Bible are specific to coincide. That's telling. There are many more, but anyone interested can look at that to determine for themselves. I just gave a taste of this.

I agree with who said God is done warning. (That does not mean the end of grace for individuals, but for nations, which are a drop in the bucket according to Isaiah). The nations are being homogenized just as God has said they would. Everywhere we can see this and the numbers are saying so, too. And it is not just any or all numbers, God does things with distinctions for His purpose.

America is prepped and ready to join the ranks for the global endgame that the devil has been and will engage in. The world is on board now with a few more details to finish to get all on the same page. America in every sector is very largely institutionalized now. Has this escaped people's notice? Israel got to the point it was beyond 2 Chronicles 7:14, have we?

Just wait a little bit longer and see if true. That is all the numbers I mentioned are showing to us to do.
And spread the Gospel, we should not stop doing that. More now than ever........
 
Turkey, Russia sign gas pipeline deal as ties improve
http://www.kfvs12.com/story/33353201/turkey-russia-sign-gas-pipeline-deal-as-ties-improve

Turkey is using Russia 'as a trump card' against the US — and Putin is cashing in
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-turkey-rapprochement-2016-10

There has been quite a chill relations between Turkey and the USA as we support the Kurds in opposition to Ankara's designs. Additionally it appeared that the US government was chearleading during the failed coup attempt, though some believe the coup attempt was a Erdogan generated false-flag type operation to solidify and increase power.


 
Wikileaks: Podesta’s Phony ‘Catholic’ Group Pushed Church Support for Iran Nuclear Deal

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/18/wikileaks-podestas-phony-catholic-group-pushed-church-support-iran-deal/


 
Susanna,

Now that the blinders are off on these two phony catholic front groups, has there been any significant puch-back by the Catholic church against these, and some of their rogue catholic components/people?
 
More on the "Fellowship:"

The Broad Way Unity Bridge

"[Joel] Osteen's meeting with [Pope] Francis on June 4 was part of a larger gathering coordinated by the International Foundation, also known as "the Fellowship." Osteen was joined by Utah Sen. Mike Lee, a Mormon; California pastor Tim Timmons; and Gayle D. Beebe, president of evangelical Westmont College."

http://herescope.blogspot.com (10/8/2016)

Dave in CA


 
Dan Bryan,

In addition to Archbishop Charles Chaput's pushback against the aforementioned phony "Catholic" front organizations, there is Kansas City Archbishop Joseph F. Naumann's pushback against the politically expedient "Catholicism" of Vice Presidential candidate Tim Kaine.

U.S. Archbishop: Beware of Tim Kaine, a ‘Cafeteria Catholic’ with ‘Contorted Reasoning’

A leading American prelate has urged voters to “be wary” of Democratic vice-presidential candidate Tim Kaine, a “cafeteria Catholic” who picks and chooses from Church teaching according to its political expediency....read more....

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/19/u-s-archbishop-beware-tim-kaine-cafeteria-catholic-contorted-reasoning/
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Archbishop Nauman was the prelate who asked former Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sibeleus to refrain from receiving Holy Communion because of her support for abortion.

Alexia Kelley, who was then the Executive Director of "Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good,” was one of the phony pro-Obama Catholic front organizations that strongly supported the appointment of the former Kansas governor Kathleen Sebelius as Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services.

Pro-Obama Catholic rewarded with government job at HHS

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/proobama_catholic_rewarded_with_government_job_at_hhs/
__________________________________________________________
 
MicroSoft did an "upgrade" on my Windows 10 to an allegedly "new and improved" windows 10 and in the process, wiped out my existing computer index that is taking a long and frustrating time to properly rebuild.

Any suggestions from you techies would be appreciated.

Constance

 
One of the obvious things on the Clinton agenda is to rid the world of Breitbart and "Citizens United."

Constance

 
Susanna,

Thanks for the links.
The articles are good but miss the mark IMO, I was hoping for something more forceful.
I have seen this political correct 'soft shoe' in the Protestant/Evangelical ranks as well.

I want too see the Church (if it were mine) to come out categorically and name the spades. Are priests neutered when they become bishops?

I would want them to expose and name the political Catholic Sheals, as to who they really are, political prostitutes.

At least you call them out as being a phony Catholic front group.
 
MicroSoft did an "upgrade" on my Windows 10 to an allegedly "new and improved" windows 10 and in the process, wiped out my existing computer index that is taking a long and frustrating time to properly rebuild.

Any suggestions from you techies would be appreciated.

If you are talking about your favorites files, you should have exported and downloaded these files prior to making the upgrade. Then you could have re-imported them to the new windows explorer.

If you take your computer to a repair facility, there may be a way for them to retrieve the old file? I am not sure, but it is worth a try.
 
Solana: Decline of the West and how to stop it in New York Times article dated October 19, 2016.

Why would he care? Hmmmm....
 
Dan Bryan, 3:13AM

You will get no argument from me about the need for a more forceful response from United States Catholic Bishops against the aforementioned phony "Catholic" front organizations.

Here is another article you might want to check out from THE CATHOLIC REPORT. It is one of the most reliable Catholic news sources there is.

These critters do not speak for all Catholics as they would have everyone think. I KNOW they do NOT speak for me!!!


Fake Catholic Groups and the "Catholic Spring" Emails

October 13, 2016

It is now impossible to deny that Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good and Catholics United have worked for years to undermine and manipulate Catholic leadership

http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Item/5125/fake_catholic_groups_and_the_catholic_spring_emails.aspx
________________________________________

October 16, 2016

Archbishop Chaput, USCCB Condemn "Catholic Spring" Efforts: "Our Beliefs Come to Us from Christ, ...not a Consensus Based on Contemporary Norms."

http://www.bigccatholics.com/2016/10/archbishop-chaput-usccb-condemn.html

cont...
 
cont.

Catholic League claims Catholic political groups are financed by George Soros

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/catholic_league_claims_catholic_political_groups_are_financed_by_george_soros/
_______________________________________

June 24, 2014

Marginalizing Catholic Teaching One Grant at a Time
Anne Hendershott

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2014/marginalizing-magisterium-one-grant-time
 
Regarding Catholic pushback... or any pushback against the Globalist, Utopian Radical agenda and the corresponding corruption that goes hand in hand with it, it warms my heart to see that there IS pushback (even if it still needs a shot of testosterone) in ALL quarters.

I have a T-shirt I got in the 90s that says this:

God Bless the Republic!
Death to the New World Order!
We Shall Prevail!

(Extra points if you know who said that at the end of their radio show....)

That sentiment is showing itself more and more these days, and people are starting to be not afraid anymore of being on some list, or being targeted by the IRS, or whatever.

As crazy as the campaigning is this time around, it is shining light on all the rodents and critters that needed to be exposed, and letting people know who has their interests in mind, and who doesn't. And that's a good thing.

 
Susanna,

I wonder if this report by Richard Pendlebury from the Daily Mail might be of interest to your ongoing research?

---

A charity involving Max Mosley that is aiming to set up a UK 'independent' press regulator has links to a Roman Catholic sect that has been accused of anti-Semitism. The Society of St Pius X, led by Swedish Bishop Bernard Fellay, is no stranger to such accusations, having granted a funeral to Nazi war criminal Erich Priebke in 2013 despite the Vatican refusing him a burial service. It is also a registered charity in the UK and shares a trustee with the Independent Press Regulation Trust, through which Mr Mosley is trying to finance the regulator, known as Impress.


Read more: http://tinyurl.com/jj4hja3

---

The report makes connections between SSPX UK and trustees Vernor-Miles father & son (former Catholic Herald owner) and Sir Oswald Mosley & Diana Mitford (sister Unity Mitford) close friends of Hitler & their son Max Mosley.

Following the Leveson Enquiry in 2016 and the recommendations for a new, independent, body to replace the existing Press Complaints Commission, which would have to be recognised by the state through new laws, the Daily Mail are obviously concerned about the highly possible formation of Impress press regulation.

There seem to be lots of 'dots' here that might mean much more to your research than they do to me. Or it could of course be a total red herring!

Wow, to public comments at bottom of report ... so many 'red arrows'! How very bizarre.

~ K ~



 
Vatican City, Oct 21, 2016 / 06:17 am (CNA/EWTN News).- On Friday, the Vatican announced it will be sending a representative to Egypt to set plans for the official re-launching of dialogue between the Holy See and the Al-Azhar Mosque and adjunct University, marking a seismic step in Catholic-Muslim relations.

Read more:
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/vatican-al-azhar-to-officially-resume-dialogue-73515/
 
~K~ 12:35 AM,

Thank you for the link.

The canonical status of the Society of St. Pius X as stated by Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and President of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, on 22 December 2013, is that the leaders of the Society are in schism, having departed from communion with the Church. The following corresponds with the article you linked us to.



Prominent members of the SSPX, including Lefebvre himself, have, at various times, expressed approval or support for a restoration of an absolutist French monarchy; the Vichy government (1940–1944); and the party of Jean-Marie le Pen.

On the basis of statements made by Bishop Williamson, the Anti-Defamation League has accused the Society of being "mired in anti-Semitism".

It was in an SSPX priory, where he had been granted asylum as "an act of charity to a homeless man", that French Nazi collaborator and war criminal Paul Touvier was arrested. On his death, in 1996, a priest of the society publicly offered Requiem Mass for him.

On 16 October 2013, the Society offered to perform a funeral for Nazi war-criminal Erich Priebke, but the ceremony did not take place due to protests by some 500 people outside the Society's Italian district house in Albano, near Rome. The local authorities of the Catholic Church had refused him a public funeral, citing a rule of canon law that, unless they gave some signs of repentance before death, a public funeral must be refused to manifest sinners to whom it cannot be granted without public scandal of the faithful. The society issued a statement on its website saying, "A Christian who was baptized and received the sacraments of confession and the Eucharist, no matter what his faults and sins were, to the extent that he dies reconciled with God and the church, has a right to the celebration of the holy Mass and a funeral."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Saint_Pius_X#Political_controversies
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Among the groups that have split form the SSPX are the Sedevacantists.

Among the more bizarre aspects of the schism are some of the illicit consecrations performed by the late Vietnamese Archbishop of Hue, Ngo Dinh Thuc who had direct ties not only with the late SSPX founder Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, but also with the people involved in the alleged apparitions at Palmar de Troya, the most notable of whom was Clemente Dominguez y Gomez, a.k.a. "Pope Gregory XVII."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clemente_Dom%C3%ADnguez_y_G%C3%B3mez
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By the way, it was one of Clemente's proteges, Michael Cox who ordained Irish singer/songwriter Sinéad O'Connor a "priest" in April 1999.

Ngo Dinh Thuc was the brother of the Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem who was assassinated during a coup on November 2, 1963 - nearly three weeks before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. At the time of Ngo Dinh Diem's assassination, Ngo Dinh Thục was in Rome attending the second session of the Second Vatican Council.

Thục was unable to return to Vietnam after the coup and spent the rest of his life in exile in Italy, France, and the United States.

During his exile, he was involved with Traditionalist Catholic movements and consecrated a number of bishops without the Vatican's approval for the Palmarian and Sedevacantist movements. As a result, he was excommunicated by and reconciled with the Holy See a number of times.



 
P.S. ~K~

Clemente Dominguez y Gomez, a.k.a. Pope Gregory XVII declared himself Pope and Emperor!!! During his "papacy," he proceeded to "canonize" Generalissimo Francisco Franco and Christopher Columbus as saints.


 
One of my favorite scholars and authors, LEE PENN, will join me for the second hour for MY PERSPECTIVE internet radio program today at www.TheMicroEffect.com. Join us by listening live and/or entering the chatroom. You may call with your questions to Lee, author of FALSE DAWN by calling into 208-935-0094. I'll have open lines the first hour of the program.

Lee and I will be discussing his updated research on the New Age Movement and current questions we both have on positions coming forth from the Vatican.

Constance
 
I've been told that Pope Francis requested Catholics to refrain from proselytizing. Is that true? I would like to hear from Susanna as to whether this is true, if she knows, or another example of pitting target groups off against each other. If it is true, in my opinion, it is a disturbing step in the direction of the "New World Religion."

Constance
 
https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2016/10/05/pope-churchs-mission-draw-people-christ-not-proselytize/
 
But, he's right in saying there's a war in the world against marriage and that the latest weapon is gender theory!

Constance
 

Full Definition of proselytize
intransitive verb
1 to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2 to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause

There was a big push against Billy Graham not to proselytize those that came to Christ during his revivals, especially if they were once Catholic. Once Billy Boy agreed, he then had the blessing of the RCC and included Catholic priests and nuns on his platform.

I believe The Catholic Church has always held that position?? [Susanna??]

The more disturbing of his statement to me was that "Church’s mission is to draw people to Christ," which is contradictory to scripture and that the working of the Father. John 6:44 Of course Jesus was speaking of the Heavenly Father.

If the Roman Church institution is necessary for salvation.
If the Eucharist is necessary for salvation in the Roman Church.
Then what is the Pontiff saying?
You can be in fellowship but not receive salvation (according to the Catholic Tradition??) [Susanna??]

It reminded me of the ecumenical reach toward Kenneth Copeland, when they told him they would be in fellowship as brothers..... but no one was coming home (to Rome)?
So the Pope blessed Kenneth Copeland.... but only half way? Being damned according to Cannon law?? [Susanna??]

If all faiths have a valid redemptive path to God, irrespective of the Cross of Jesus Christ, then his crucifixion was in vain, and a totally unnecessary act of torture and death. Just more Roman circus if you will.






 
Fox News Is Reporting Widespread Voter Fraud, Obama Says It’s Dangerous to Report It

http://www.independentsentinel.com/fox-news-is-reporting-widespread-voter-fraud-obama-says-its-dangerous-to-report-it/

http://tinyurl.com/gpjhq3h
 
Constance 1:34 AM

The way I learned it, when a Christian of one denomination proselytizes a Christian from another denomination it is usually called "sheep-stealing." Pope Francis makes a distinction between proselytism and evangelism.

I think the following article from The Catholic World Report pretty much nails it:

The Pope and Proselytism

How to differentiate between an unhelpful proselytism and a healthy evangelism?

August 05, 2014 03:30 EST

Dr. Adam A. J. DeVille

http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Blog/3291/The_Pope_and_Proselytism.aspx
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One more thing. As Pope John Paul II once said “the Church proposes; she imposes nothing” (Redemptoris Missio no. 39). Moreover, when a person is "converted" to Christianity, it is not any human person who does the converting. It is the Holy Spirit Who does it.
 
Dan Bryan,

We have been over the Catholic Church's position on non-Catholic Christians several times on this blog. Non-Catholic Christians are not regarded as being "outside the Church." They are regarded as "material schismatics." The reason why they are not called "heretics" is because their not being Catholic is not through any fault of their own. No one has a choice about the faith into which he/she is born. Heresy is derived from a word meaning "choice."

We have already discussed the fact that if a Protestant wishes to enter the Roman Catholic Church and has received water baptism in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit as a Protestant, it is not required that he be re-baptized upon entering the Catholic Church because the baptism he has received is considered valid by the Roman Catholic Church. The reason why is because the Sacrament of Baptism has been instituted by Christ. It is not a man made ritual.

The "Dogmatic Constitution on the Church - Lumen Gentium" (1964) is one of many documents to come out of the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council (often referred to as "Vatican II"). The Council was held in Rome between 1962 and 1965. Lumen Gentium" contains in its Chapter 1 an essay on "The Mystery of the church."

Sections 14 to 16 describe the potential for salvation of

Followers of the Catholic Church,
Members of other Christian denominations, and
Believers of non-Christian religions.

In summary:

"The Catholic Church professes that it is the one, holy catholic and apostolic Church of Christ; this it does not and could not deny. But in its Constitution the Church now solemnly acknowledges that the Holy Ghost is truly active in the churches and communities separated from itself. To these other Christian Churches the Catholic Church is bound in many ways: through reverence for God's word in the Scriptures; through the fact of baptism; through other sacraments which they recognize."

"The children who are born into these Communities and who grow up believing in Christ cannot be accused of the sin of heresy, and the Catholic Church embraces them as brothers, with respect and affection. For men who believe in Christ and have been truly baptized are in communion with the Catholic Church even though this communion is imperfect. ...it remains true that all who have been justified by faith in Baptism are members of Christ's body, and have a right to be called Christian, and so are correctly accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church."

Unfortunately, many of the aforementioned radical Traditionalist groups embrace the Feeneyite position that Protestants are going to hell in a hand basket for no other reason than that they are Protestants. On August 8, 1949, Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani of the Holy Office sent a protocol letter to Archbishop of Boston Richard Cushing on the meaning of the dogma extra Ecclesiam nulla salus (outside the church there is no salvation), which Feeney refused to accept. Father Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for disobedience after he refused to comply with a summons from Rome.



 
Dear Susanna,

Thanks for your explanation albeit for the Nth time.

 
All week no comment on my last weekly post. preening themselves w/o reading it? or under conviction and repenting? in case its the former and for the benefit of any reader deceived by them, a summary.

you cripple your mind Jesus says you are to love God with so how can you love God with your mind? you lean on your deceptive heart. Any false religion believer can have a sense of awe, and a witness in your spirit is just subjective imagining. "gird up the loins of your mind" 1 Peter 1:13 Love God "with all your....mind" Luke 10:27
"the mind darkened" results in UNRIGHTEOUSNESS Ephes. 4:18 (4:17 refers to gentiles walking in the futility of their minds, not by usng their minds but " Being darkened in their understanding" v. 18. Rom. 1:21 God has given us a "sound mind" 2 tim. of course its up to us to use it. 1:7 corrupt mind I Tim 6:5

RESULTS of your supposedly superior spirituality: misapplying Scripture as referring to something Jesus EXPLICITLY said referred to the opposite and insisting on defending this. Despite having quoted the entire passage with the introductory statement that the kingdom of Heaven is like (leaven and mustard seed) you say it refers to the abnormal growth of fake churches.

Nyquist Prophecy https://exemplore.com/fortune-divination/Dreams-and-Prophecy-for-America-2009
44 rulers of Judah and 44 US presidents implies US is new Israel which is bogus. The Washington vision was hoax, http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vision.asp (not always reliable but good detail) and http://www.ushistory.org/valleyforge/washington/vision.html soldier who overhead this wasn't there to hear it.

review of The Cloak of Green shows environmentalism is to promote global unification under neo feudalism, they would destroy the environment if they thought it would help that. I think if more people realized the game they would think twice. the majority are not serious Christians and these are the ones we have to persuade. some seculars new agers and cultists don't like some of the globalism elitism and interference with their personal life styles (Agenda 21 will mess with everyone) and can be got to stop working for it.

a Clinton guard/gofer told Larry Nichols she attends a "witch church" monthly in California. My guess is its the same networked "group" I learned of years ago with political and classy members. Kaine strikes me as maybe a priest type in it. That means Clinton is a place holder for him. IF elected, she will die leaving him president.

remember Physicist poo pooed the idea the ABM warheads could be swapped out for nuclear in a few hours and be offensive? PUTIN IS SAYING THEY CAN BE. And Physicist thinks theoretical physics can determine what is and isn't possible. yeah. right. https://www.engadget.com/2014/08/01/nasa-microwave-thruster/ considered impossible by theoretical physicists, so not tried for decades it was finally tried it worked no one could figure why. Then AFTER THE FACT someone tweaked the math to show it wasn't violating physical laws after all, but this was NOT PREDICTED by physicists and only mathized AFTER THE FACT. tinkerers rule, theoretical physicists drool.

Ray Yungen. http://fightthenewage.blogspot.com/2016/10/ray-yungen-has-passed-away-important.html incl.
link to important articles by him.
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/10/16/pat-wood-nightmarish-cities-of-the-future-agenda-21-make-this-go-viral/ forget communism this is what is really going on.
 
remember Physicist poo pooed the idea the ABM warheads could be swapped out for nuclear in a few hours and be offensive? PUTIN IS SAYING THEY CAN BE.

Hello Christine, this is Physicist. I am well aware that missile warheads can be interchanged. The cruise missiles that America used against Baghdad in the first Gulf War were conventional-tipped but had nuclear capability, as was stated openly at the time. So I dispute that I said what you say I did. Perhaps you are misremembering our dialogue in which you were confused about the respective capabilities of nuclear weapons and fuel-air weapons (which are conventional). That dialogue appeared in the thread underneath Constance's blog entry of March 1st 2012. If you can find, from that thread or any other, a quote of mine saying what you say I said then I'll apologise. Otherwise, I suggest you apologise for misquoting me. By the way, I expect better than a vague reply saying you can't find it. Constance keeps a comprehensive archive, and you have made a claim about what I said. The proper thing to do is either back it up, or back off.

And Physicist thinks theoretical physics can determine what is and isn't possible. yeah. right. https://www.engadget.com/2014/08/01/nasa-microwave-thruster/ considered impossible by theoretical physicists, so not tried for decades it was finally tried it worked no one could figure why. Then AFTER THE FACT someone tweaked the math to show it wasn't violating physical laws after all, but this was NOT PREDICTED by physicists and only mathized AFTER THE FACT. tinkerers rule, theoretical physicists drool.

In the dialectic between theory and practice that comprises physical science, sometimes theoreticians go to experimentalists and say "here's a new prediction we've worked out; please test it." If the prediction is experimentally verified then notch one up to the already prevailing theory; if it is found to be wrong - and that means replication of the result in multiple laboratories, because breakdowns are generally at the limits of experimental technology - then it's time for theoreticians to search for a new theory. Such challenges are welcome. Sometimes, conversely, experimentalists come to theoreticians and say "this happened and it surprised us; can you explain it?" (meaning explain it on the basis of prevailing theory). If the answer turns out to be Yes, then nothing changes. If No, then again it's time for theoreticians to search for a new theory.

So I don't dispute that sometimes the prevailing theory turns out to be wrong, and that the discrepancy is first found unprompted by experimentalists. Science journalists (although not professional physicists) typically summarise that scenario by saying that the impossible is happening.

But it doesn't happen very often. Has it happened in this case? The link you gave discussed an experiment conducted in 2014. It was conducted in air. Here is a report of an update conducted last year in a vacuum, thereby eliminating one possible source of error:

http://www.space.com/29363-impossible-em-drive-space-engine-nasa.html?cmpid=514648

Any effect is right on the threshold between noise and signal, for I quote: Siegel said he is seeing claims of thrust happening just a few times over many tests, with a frequency that is "not inconsistent with random chance." Further, the thrust that was produced in these rare instances was apparently just above the margin of error for measurement... Obviously, more work (which I welcome) needs to be done before a novel effect can reliably be said to be taking place. Your intemperate language shows your ignorance of how science moves forward.

Physicist

 
remember Physicist poo pooed the idea the ABM warheads could be swapped out for nuclear in a few hours and be offensive? PUTIN IS SAYING THEY CAN BE.

I am well aware that missile warheads can be interchanged. The cruise missiles that America used against Baghdad in the first Gulf War were conventional-tipped but had nuclear capability, as was stated openly at the time. So I dispute that I said what you say I did. Perhaps you are misremembering our dialogue in which you were confused about the respective capabilities of nuclear weapons and fuel-air weapons (which are conventional). That dialogue appeared in the thread underneath Constance's blog entry of March 1st 2012. If you can find, from that thread or any other, a quote of mine saying what you say I said then I'll apologise. Otherwise, I suggest you apologise for misquoting me. By the way, I expect better than a vague reply saying you can't find it. Constance keeps a comprehensive archive, and you have made a claim about what I said. The proper thing to do is either back it up, or back off.

Physicist

 

And Physicist thinks theoretical physics can determine what is and isn't possible. yeah. right. https://www.engadget.com/2014/08/01/nasa-microwave-thruster/ considered impossible by theoretical physicists, so not tried for decades it was finally tried it worked no one could figure why. Then AFTER THE FACT someone tweaked the math to show it wasn't violating physical laws after all, but this was NOT PREDICTED by physicists and only mathized AFTER THE FACT. tinkerers rule, theoretical physicists drool.

In the dialectic between theory and practice that comprises physical science, sometimes theoreticians go to experimentalists and say "here's a new prediction we've worked out; please test it." If the prediction is experimentally verified then notch one up to the already prevailing theory; if it is found to be wrong - and that means replication of the result in multiple laboratories, because breakdowns are generally at the limits of experimental technology - then it's time for theoreticians to search for a new theory. Such challenges are welcome. Sometimes, conversely, experimentalists come to theoreticians and say "this happened and it surprised us; can you explain it?" (meaning explain it on the basis of prevailing theory). If the answer turns out to be Yes, then nothing changes. If No, then again it's time for theoreticians to search for a new theory.

So I don't dispute that sometimes the prevailing theory turns out to be wrong, and that the discrepancy is first found unprompted by experimentalists. Science journalists (although not professional physicists) typically summarise that scenario by saying that the impossible is happening.

But it doesn't happen very often. Has it happened in this case? The link you gave discussed an experiment conducted in 2014. It was conducted in air. Here is a report of an update conducted last year in a vacuum, thereby eliminating one possible source of error:

http://www.space.com/29363-impossible-em-drive-space-engine-nasa.html?cmpid=514648

Any effect is right on the threshold between noise and signal, for I quote: Siegel said he is seeing claims of thrust happening just a few times over many tests, with a frequency that is "not inconsistent with random chance." Further, the thrust that was produced in these rare instances was apparently just above the margin of error for measurement... Obviously, more work (which I welcome) needs to be done before a novel effect can reliably be said to be taking place. Your intemperate language shows your ignorance of how science moves forward.

Physicist

 
And Physicist thinks theoretical physics can determine what is and isn't possible. yeah. right. https://www.engadget.com/2014/08/01/nasa-microwave-thruster/ considered impossible by theoretical physicists, so not tried for decades it was finally tried it worked no one could figure why. Then AFTER THE FACT someone tweaked the math to show it wasn't violating physical laws after all, but this was NOT PREDICTED by physicists and only mathized AFTER THE FACT. tinkerers rule, theoretical physicists drool.

In the interplay between theory and practice that comprises physical science, sometimes theoreticians go to experimentalists and say "here's a new prediction we've worked out; please test it." If the prediction is experimentally verified then notch one up to the already prevailing theory; if it is found to be wrong - and that means replication of the result in multiple laboratories, because breakdowns are generally at the limits of experimental technology - then it's time for theoreticians to search for a new theory. Such challenges are welcome. Sometimes, conversely, experimentalists come to theoreticians and say "this happened and it surprised us; can you explain it?" (meaning explain it on the basis of prevailing theory). If the answer turns out to be Yes, then nothing changes. If No, then again it's time for theoreticians to search for a new theory.

So sometimes the prevailing theory does indeed turn out to be wrong, with the discrepancy being found by experimentalists unprompted. All physicists know this, but it doesn't stop science journalists saying that the impossible is happening.

It doesn't happen very often, though. Has it happened in this case? The link you gave discussed an experiment conducted in 2014. It was conducted in air. Here is a report of an update conducted last year in a vacuum, thereby eliminating one possible source of error:

http://www.space.com/29363-impossible-em-drive-space-engine-nasa.html?cmpid=514648

Any effect is close to the threshold between noise and signal, for I quote: Siegel said he is seeing claims of thrust happening just a few times over many tests, with a frequency that is "not inconsistent with random chance." Further, the thrust that was produced in these rare instances was apparently just above the margin of error for measurement... Obviously, more work (which I welcome) needs to be done before any novel effect can be declared. Your intemperate language shows your lack of understanding of how science moves forward.

Physicist

 
Two part video of Ray Yungen and Mike Oppenheimer discussing the New Age and Mysticism vs. God's Word, below Oppenheimer's article;
"A Celebration of a Servant's Promotion". Ray Yungen passed away recently.

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=21638
 
Constance, your system is repeatedly binning a post of mine responding to Christine about microwave thrust. Please would you find the most recent version in your spam folder and securely post it? Also, what specifics have you about Norman Grubb, please? With thanks - Physicist

 
Dan Bryan,

You wrote, The more disturbing of his statement to me was that "Church’s mission is to draw people to Christ," which is contradictory to scripture and that the working of the Father. John 6:44 Of course Jesus was speaking of the Heavenly Father.

I'm not understanding what you mean here. Didn't Jesus Himself say, I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me (John 14:6)?
 
Craig, to clarify,

The work of the Holy Spirit Toward Salvation
John 16:8-11 We see the working of the Holy Spirit convincing men's heart of their sin.

The workings of the Father Toward Salvation
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The work of the Cross of Jesus Providing Salvation
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

These three verses are not mutually exclusive, but are part of God's economy of salvation.
So what I was saying is we are his vessels in obedience to delivering or preaching the gospel, but salvation's working power(according to scripture)is that of God and not of man or an institution.
 
"All week no comment on my last weekly post"

Because no one is breathlessly hanging on to your every word...(though it is all about you in your warped world---others have real lives to live with clear priorities and you aren't one of them)
In addition, why beat a dead horse when the point was actually made from the get-go?


And since when is it worth it to carry on dialogue with a fomenting demagogue?

 
Hey Physicist!

You said: "Perhaps you are misremembering our dialogue"





It's more like she is dismembering your dialogue.




Just part of why she has been muzzled to the once a week deal. LOL!

 
More on the sleazebag activities of Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good co-founded by John Podesta.



HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN FORWARDED PLAN TO WHITE HOUSE TO PROMOTE IRAN TREATY USING CATHOLIC PRELATES' INFLUENCE

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/22/hillary-clinton-campaign-forwarded-plan-white-house-promote-iran-treaty-using-catholic-prelates-influence/


A few days earlier, the following article was posted at Breitbart:

Wikileaks: Podesta’s Phony ‘Catholic’ Group Pushed Church Support for Iran Nuclear Deal

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/18/wikileaks-podestas-phony-catholic-group-pushed-church-support-iran-deal/


"In a stinging statement released October 13, 2016, the head of the U.S. Bishops Conference, Archbishop Joseph E. Kurtz, issued his own indictment of the Clinton team, calling them out for interfering in the Church’s self-governance for “short-term political gain.”"

http://www.usccb.org/news/2016/16-132.cfm







 
From Jihad Watch:

WikiLeaks: Alliance of Hillary, Iran, Soros and left-wing Catholics

October 23, 2016 8:21 am By Christine Williams
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/10/wikileaks-alliance-of-hillary-iran-soros-and-left-wing-catholics
 

Anonymous Susanna said...7:48 PM

"In a stinging statement released October 13, 2016, ....
http://www.usccb.org/news/2016/16-132.cfm

I am still waiting!
They did not name the organizations, thereby they did not full throatily disassociate from these groups.
They should lodge a complaint with the federal government about these rogue illegal non profit religious groups?

I do not particularly endorse the Roman Church, but I do sympathize with your frustration, Susanna.

 
Christine, regarding your comments about the microwave drive, in the interplay between theory and practice that comprises physical science, sometimes theoreticians go to experimentalists and say "here's a new prediction we've worked out; please test it." If the prediction is experimentally verified then notch one up to the already prevailing theory; if it is found to be wrong - and that means replication of the result in multiple laboratories, because breakdowns are generally at the limits of experimental technology - then it's time for theoreticians to search for a new theory. Such challenges are welcome. Sometimes, conversely, experimentalists come to theoreticians and say "this happened and it surprised us; can you explain it?" (meaning explain it on the basis of prevailing theory). If the answer turns out to be Yes, then nothing changes. If No, then again it's time for theoreticians to search for a new theory.

So sometimes the prevailing theory does indeed turn out to be wrong, with the discrepancy being found by experimentalists unprompted. All physicists know this, but it doesn't stop science journalists saying that the impossible is happening.

It doesn't happen very often, though. Has it happened in this case? The link you gave discussed an experiment conducted in 2014. It was conducted in air. Here is a report of an update conducted last year in a vacuum, thereby eliminating one possible source of error:

http://www.space.com/29363-impossible-em-drive-space-engine-nasa.html?cmpid=514648

Any effect is close to the threshold between noise and signal, for I quote: Siegel said he is seeing claims of thrust happening just a few times over many tests, with a frequency that is "not inconsistent with random chance." Further, the thrust that was produced in these rare instances was apparently just above the margin of error for measurement... Obviously, more work (which I welcome) needs to be done before any novel effect can be declared. Your tone shows your lack of understanding of how science moves forward.

Physicist
 
Until Constance recovers my post which this blogging site keeps binning, readers should be aware that Christine's comments on the microwave drive are intemperate and inaccurate - Physicist
 
Dan Bryan, 1:26 AM

Archbishop Charles Chaput names the organizations in the following article. Thank you for the sympathy vote. :-)

ABOUT THOSE UNTHINKING BACKWARD CATHOLICS
http://catholicphilly.com/2016/10/think-tank/archbishop-chaput-column/about-those-unthinking-backward-catholics/

For Archbishop Chaput, 'Catholic Spring' group did untold damage
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/for-archbishop-chaput-catholic-spring-group-did-untold-damage-88927/
 
Susanna,

I immensely enjoyed Archbishop Chaput's article about "Those Unthinking Backward Catholics."

Thanks!

Constance
 
Behind the Bronze Doors: Soros Radicals collude with Vatican

The purpose of the Soros/Vatican collaboration was to coordinate the Pope’s U.S. address with the Clinton campaign. Soros sought to align Clinton campaign talking points with the Pope speeches during his U.S. trip. The goal of the PICO grant seeks to reinforce mutual concerns between the Pope and Clinton’s campaign agenda and bootstrap the popular Pope to reinforce the campaign themes of the democratic candidate in hopes to influence the 2016 U.S. Elections. Soros is funding an array of Clinton campaign operations to the tidy sum of $25 million. Soros understands that it is crucial to split and dilute the Catholic vote by using the Pope’s social justice agenda as a proxy for the Democratic platform.

Not surprisingly, Vice Pope Cardinal Oscar Maradiaga Rodriguez coordinated the lavish welcome for the PICO delegation comprised of radicals from Black Lives Matter (Soros Funded), a pastor from the Ferguson commission, (F erguson riots funded by Soros), and SEIU union democratic party organizers. Apparently, radical social justice issues dominated the extensive three day parley at the Holy See:

The topic of salvation of souls is now replaced in Vatican meetings with the salvation of the Democratic party. Politics of the radical leftists Alinskyites dominate the discussions at the Vatican. Prominent curial Cardinals devote three days to the agenda of George Soros, self declared atheist, the most virulent global promoter of abortion, euthanasia, manufactured chaos, and the New World Order.

A New World Order is now entrenched at the Vatican.

http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/2830-behind-the-bronze-doors-soros-radicals-collude-with-vatican



 
Dear Physicist,

As I haven't banned any posts here recently, I'm going to the SPAM folder to see what might have happened and if I find it there, I'll mark it as "not spam" so it will be restored.

Thanks for letting me know.

Constance
 
Dear Physicist,

I just returned from the Comments Section and checked the "Spam" box and found 3 posts as you described. I marked all 3 "not spam" and they should now appear where you originally intended for them to be.

Constance
 
Thank you Constance. Once would have done as they all had similar content, but perhaps reading it three times will help Christine to understand it...
Physicist
 
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clintons-catholic-fan-club-1477353630
 
http://tinyurl.com/hhyl8ed

or

http://noisyroom.net/blog/2012/09/13/the-engineers-of-leaderless-arab-spring-occupy-wall-street/

In an AFP article last April, Michael Posner, Assistant Secretary of State, admitted that the US trained 5000 activists last February from Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, and Lebanon. The goal was to provide the technology to circumvent government obstruction and help activists create a ripple effect by training their colleagues in the arts of government destabilization. Posner said our Federal government budgeted $50 million to develop new technologies to protect activists from arrest by authoritarian governments.

Constance
 
Anonymous 12:51 AM

The article posted by Anonymous 12:51 AM is an example of a Traditionalist Catholic publication whose editors are sympathizers of the late Traditionalist Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X.



 
https://truthxchange.com/2016/10/the-interface-of-medieval-mysticism-and-buddhist-mindfulness-meditation/
 
"Turkey, Russia sign gas pipeline deal as ties improve.

http://www.kfvs12.com/story/33353201/turkey-russia-sign-gas-pipeline-deal-as-ties-improve"

And there are your 2 out of about 8 participants who will lead the mad dash charge toward the hills of Israel! Iran and some North African nations are the others.

The IDF will need God's help on that day like the birds need wings.
 
Constance,

I am empathetic about the pro-life issue, but on marriage equality. I think Christians need to give up the fight against it. We can certainly fight for our rights to teach our views, but we have lost on this front, because marriage has changed so drastically, that our views just don't make sense anymore legally. Our witness has to be with our countercultural lives, rather than with organized politics.

This includes not defending or making excuses for Trump's immoral talk or his sleazy business deals.

This is a pathetic election cycle, and neither Trump nor Clinton can save this country.

We are reaping what we can sown.




 
"Our witness has to be with our countercultural lives, rather than with organized politics."

Well said!

That's how Jesus did it and He could have taken Rome out!

Bad seed has taken root and is producing bad fruit. (and people love to have it so...)
The law of the harvest is going into full swing.
 
Anonymous 5:16
Who's "we" and "us"?
Speak for yourself. Marriage hasn't changed in God's eyes one iota.
And what the hell is a "countercultural life" ...and who cares?
You sound like a modern day facilitator and thanks but don't tell me
what camp I'm in because you don't know anything other than your
programmed facilitation. To Hegel with you.
You do not speak for me at all, nor can you herd me into either of your
pre-set boxes.
Buzz off anonymous parasite.
 
Anonymous 8:42
_And why do you answer yourself as if you were two different people?
 
Meant to say anonymous 6:36
 
Paul,
Huh?
This is 6:36 and I am a different Anonymous.
I know what marriage is from the Bible standpoint (of course it has not changed) and no one on the political scene these days will turn the tide to go back to the Bible. If our current culture does turn, it will be God that does it. Men can't fix sin and it is going off the charts out there, but God can turn that tide if He so chooses. I am of the thought that men are being given over for judgment as God says in Romans 1. God will do the reset to restore what sinful men have ruined, His time, His way. I think we have reached that time in earth's history, with no turning back (but God has the last word on that, not me). I believe Jesus is coming back soon, and I'm all in favor of that, living in these days that are like the days of Noah. Even so come quickly Lord Jesus.

Counterculture to me is how Jesus was not living as the culture of His day (because He is God) but was the direct answer against it. Radical. And the ensuing persecution that arises from that counter resistance to this day and age, of evil called good and good called evil, will draw a remnant to Christ because a radical church (filled with the Spirit of God) loves the Lord, and is counted an enemy by the world system, those that are in the world, but not of it. Jesus said godless men (and the godless society they have established) will hate the christian as they hated Him. Like fish swimming upstream, counter to the flow, that is how the church of Jesus Christ should stand up and stand out against the sin and error of our post modern times. No political anything or anybody will fix how wrong this has all become.

I say that with a true sadness in my heart as I watch our nation continue it's spiral downward, and at a faster rate every day. But God's kingdom will rise. That is good news in a day of constant bad news, well...to me, at least...
 
Paul, Anonymous,

Can one legislate righteousness? Maybe, but we have laws already on the books against sodomy, bestiality and many of the evils of the day; what good are they?

The Biblical stories of the OT legislated righteousness with the laws of God as given by Moses. They were not binding on the wicked or heathen only on the Children of Israel. How well did that work before they went into apostasy?

In the NT we see Jesus having his biggest problem with the religious, not Rome or the heathen.

As judgment begins first in the house of the Lord, we as his children should hold the proper fear (reverence, respect) of the Lord as the Day of the Lord approaches.
God's kingdom does rise but not without a cleansing?
1 Peter 4:17

Throughout the OT the heathen were used by God to punish his children as they went astray. Might we expect the same today?

 
Paul,

I never attacked the biblical view of marriage. I just said that we no longer live in a Christian culture, so things that once made sense, like male- female marriage, no longer does, because of cultural changes that have taken place.

And we who hold to biblical views on marriage will have to come up with a stronger defense for it, and not rely on the Republicans, to legally enshrine it.

The best witness would be our own lives, which means we don't get married three times, and then rally against a lifelong gay marriage, because it's yucky.

We need to start walking the talk, if we want to be taken seriously.







 
Our nation founded upon the Bible, constructed a constitution that was based from that very premise. Our constitution is now toast because we can no longer be regarded as a God fearing nation.
It has become a "free for all" in the race for who can be the most licentious nowadays.

Repeatedly bad human interference, and all of the collective ills that have come about (over time) do transition to God's intervention......judgment.
We cannot say we were not warned. Israel was repeatedly warned by the prophets God sent and we have seen God's truth presented to us multiple ways, that we have for all practical purposes now scrapped (christian not even in name only now in my opinion).
Your closing question in your 1:59 AM post, Dan Bryan, gives folks lots to think on. And the church needs to repent and come clean before the Lord to have a right witness to a lost world, indeed, the walk and talk, matching. That is what would be radical.....and effective (like Jesus).
 
Interesting, short video where Pat Buchanon exposes to a CNN anchor the media bias against Trump and conservatism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhyxAHCzq2k
 
Just a few thoughts ...

I heard an audio recording of Trump talking "off the cuff" to a reporter during a lunch break recently. It does not appear that Trump knew he was being recorded. Trump states that "Hillary will lead us into WW 3 over Syria, because it isn't Syria, it's Russia and Iran as well."

Hillary has repeatedly stated that she would institute a "no fly zone" in Syria. Recently, the Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff testified at a Congressional hearing that such a policy "would be impossible to enforce short of all out war with Russia."

Russia has no intention of fighting a conventional war with the USA. It has drastically upgraded its tactical MRV (Multiple Re-entry Vehicles) nuclear arsenal, which has the capacity to hit the mainland USA in 10 minutes, 14 minutes max to the southern USA. MRVs typically have up to 14 individual warheads, with the ability to wipe out an area the size of Texas. They have THOUSANDS of these. The attack launch would come over the North Pole ... take a look at a globe ... the USA is far closer to Russia than you might think.

Hillary Clinton is a power-crazed lunatic that will lead this country to its destruction. The Middle East is in flames largely due to her failed, inept policies. What's more, Clinton (and her VP) favors the killing of babies as they emerge from the mother's womb(known as "partial-birth abortions). Keep that in mind if you are thinking of voting for this monster.
 
RayB at 1:46 said:


Russia has no intention of fighting a conventional war with the USA. It has drastically upgraded its tactical MRV (Multiple Re-entry Vehicles) nuclear arsenal, which has the capacity to hit the mainland USA in 10 minutes, 14 minutes max to the southern USA. MRVs typically have up to 14 individual warheads, with the ability to wipe out an area the size of Texas. They have THOUSANDS of these. The attack launch would come over the North Pole ... take a look at a globe ... the USA is far closer to Russia than you might think.

RayB is correct about Russia's MRV nuclear arsenal. There was a story about it on the Fox News Channel ( Fox and Friends ) just this morning!

Hillary Clinton is also in favor of fully finding Planned Parenthood despite its selling of baby body parts.

Hillary Clinton on Planned Parenthood Selling Aborted Baby Parts: They’re “Important Services”

Steven Ertelt Jul 23, 2015

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/07/23/hillary-clinton-on-planned-parenthood-selling-aborted-baby-parts-theyre-important-services/
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In addition to what I posted above, it gets even worse. According to a highly placed, USA combat commander, the US military would "get annihilated" by what he refers to as "a far superior Russian, conventional force." In short, the USA would suffer an incredible defeat, which explains why Putin is showing no fear of the USA.

On a side note, I spoke over the weekend (at a Trump rally) at length with a Russian/Jew that lived under Stalin in Ukraine. He came here with his wife in 1979. We talked about Russia/USA relations along with Putin, etc. He emphatically believes the USA is attempting to start a war with Russia. He told me the USA has no idea what they are up against. He said that when it comes to fighting, there is nothing on earth like the Russian soldier ... I told him I agreed and that that has been proven throughout history. He also said that even though he didn't like Putin, he felt he was a very strong leader that will not be bullied, and that in comparison, Obama was "like a little girl."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-07/legendary-us-army-commander-says-russia-would-annihilate-us-head-head-battle
 
Update Brazil #47 - "Hillary's Middle East", with Stephanie Jason.

Excellent summary of how Obama / Clinton (mostly Clinton) backed the wrong folks, and destabilized the entire Middle East during the Arab Spring:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K50FEwI0_s

Jeff Nyquist has had some recent online discussions that are in agreement with Ray's assessments above re the Russian advantage in nuclear forces. They could overwhelm our outdated and minimal ABM defenses easily. If they struck first, they could easily take out a few strategic targets, and have us at the bargaining table basically negotiating a surrender.

Here is a recent edited and condensed interview between Jeff, Benjamin Baruch and Douglas Woodword. It contains some very important statements and is only 30 minutes long:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgE2FqYk6pk

I think if Trump wins, the time between the election and inauguration will be a very dangerous time.

 
Addendum to above final statement:

And if Hillary Clinton wins, the entire foreseeable future will be a very dangerous time!
 
Reece Committee researcher Norman Dodd DID say he was told that the objective of our own "Establishment" was to merge the United States with the Soviet Union.

The following is quite stunning in its similarity to what is currently happening.

According to Norman Dodd, it was the Trustees of the tax exempt Carnegie Endowment, who, in 1908, brought up a single question; namely, if it is desirable to alter the life of an entire people, is there any means more efficient than war to gain that end? And they discuss this question at a very high academic and scholarly level for a year, and they come up with an answer-- there are no known means more efficient than war, assuming the objective is altering the life of an entire people.

That leads, then, to a question: How do we involve the United States in a war?

This was in 1909. I doubt if there was any question more removed, or any idea more removed from the minds of us, as a people, at that time than war. There were certain of what we call "intermittent shows" in the Balkans, and I also doubt if very many of us knew, really, where the Balkans was, or their relation or possible effect on us.

We jump, then, to the time when we are in a war, and these Trustees. . . oh, before that, the Trustees then answered the question of how to involve us in a war by saying, "We must control the diplomatic machinery of the United States"; and then that brings up the question of how to secure that control, and the answer is we must control the State Department.

Now, at that point, research discloses a relationship between the effort to control the State Department and an entity which the Carnegie Endowment set up – namely, the Council of Learned Societies. And through that entity are cleared all of the appointments – high appointments in the State Department, and they have continued to be cleared that way since then.


cont.


 
cont.

Now, finally, we are in a war. Eventually, the war is over, and the Trustees turn their attention, then, to seeing to it that life does not revert in this country to what it was prior to 1914; and they hit upon the idea that in order to prevent that reversion, they must control education in this country. They realized that that is a perfectly tremendous, really stupendous and complex task – much too great for them alone. So they approached the Rockefeller Foundation, with the suggestion that the task be divided between the two of them.

The Carnegie Endowment takes on that aspect of education which is a domestic in its relationship. These two run along in tandem that way, disciplined by a decision – namely, that the answer lies entirely in the changing of the teaching of the history of the United States. They then approached the... five of the then most prominent historians in this country with the proposition that they alter the manner of the teaching of the subject, and they get turned down flatly; so they realized then they must build their own stable of historians, so to speak.

They approach the Guggenheim Foundation, which specializes in Fellowships, and suggest to them that when they locate a relatively young potential historian, will the Guggenheim Foundation give that person a Fellowship, merely on their say-so... and the answer is, they will.

Ultimately, a group of twenty are so assembled, and that becomes the nuclei of the policies which emanate to the American Historical Association. Subsequently, around 1928, the Carnegie Endowment granted to the American Historical Association $400,000 in order to make a study of what the future of this country will probably turn out to be and should be. They came up with a seven-volume set of books, the last volume being a summary and digest of the other six. In the last volume, the answer is as follows:

"The future belongs to the United States..... the future in the United States belongs to collectivism administered with characteristic American efficiency".

And that becomes the policy which is finally picked up and manifests itself in the expression of collectivism all along the line, of which the dividing of this country into regions, using all of the logic which supports the ultimate idea that in order that regional government, in turn, be effective, there must be a new Constitution of the United States.

That is the background, gentlemen, of this very serious question with which you all are now wrestling. I felt that, possibly, that might tend to help a little bit as you take on this high responsibility, which is tremendous. You must have been thoroughly impressed with the complexities which arrive and confront you if you do not go at this problem in terms of the origin of the idea and the real purpose behind that idea; and skipping all the way over to try to distill a system, or a working plan, whereby our society can cope with these complexities, such as they exist today. I am very appreciative of the opportunity to be with you. I wanted to make these points as brief as possible...


http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/regionalism/dodd.htm
 
P.S. I have Rene Wormser's book FOUNDATIONS: THEIR POWER AND INFLUENCE. Rene Wormser was the counsel for the congressional Reece Committee commissioned to investigate the great tax-exempt foundations. Despite opposition from the media and the financial elite, the committee discovered that the Rockefeller, Ford, and Carnegie Foundations were working in education, government, and the media to convert our country into a socialist nation. This book documents the power of the Tax-Exempt foundations and how they used that power to subvert a nation.

You can all read Mr. Wormser's book here for free online.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/129462864/Foundations-Their-Power-and-Influence-by-Rene-A-Wormser
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In his book, he writes:


The Council on Foreign Relations, another member of the international complex, financed both by the Rockefeller and Carnegie foundations, overwhelmingly propagandizes the globalist concept. This organization became virtually an agency of the government when World War II broke out.

— René A. Wormser, Foundations: Their Power and Influence, p. 209

There is other related material at the sidebar on the website.

 
Just a few quotes by some famous Americans ...

“We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.” – Bill Clinton

“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.” – David Rockefeller

“You and I both know that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson.” – Franklin Roosevelt in a private letter to "King Maker" Col. Mendel House, FDR Library, Private Papers

“In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.” – Franklin D. Roosevelt

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States -in the fields of commerce and manufacturing-are afraid of somebody. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” – President Woodrow Wilson (he later regretted signing the Federal Reserve Act into law).
 
https://twitter.com/jessicanimhain/status/791719127870300160/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


"I think the ENP is over"

So one wonders what takes it's place.
 

Surprise!

FBI Reopening Investigation into Hillary Clinton’s Private E-mail Server


http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/28/fbi-reopening-investigation-hillary-clintons-private-e-mail-server/
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WikiLeaks: Hillary Clinton’s Plan to Strip Religious Liberty Protections, Fund Abortion Overseas

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/28/wikileaks-hillary-clintons-plan-to-strip-religious-liberty-protections-fund-abortion-overseas/
 
Hillary Clinton Accepts Cash From CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations ), Leads 2016 List of Islamist Donations

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/10/27/hillary-clinton-tops-middle-east-forums-2016-islamist-donation-list/
 
Susanna,

Director Comey has been under intense pressure from inside the FBI and from retired former agents. Obviously, he has also felt it from us ordinary, every day Americans (the one's that Hillary "hates" ... according to Podesta via Wikileaks).

More revelations exposing Hillary's corruption continue to see the light of day ... such as your posts above reveal (keep up the good work!).

Now, the New York Post runs a big story on the ultimate collapse of ObamaCare ...
http://nypost.com/2016/10/27/the-agony-of-obamacares-collapse-has-just-begun/

While voter fraud is rampant, the overwhelming tide seems to be turning towards Trump. One thing is certain; if Trump loses, this will be a contested election ... he has the money and the fortitude to see to that.
 

Blockbuster audio recording of then Sen. Hillary Clinton supporting the "rigging of the Palestine election."

It is very obvious Hillary and her ilk hate having the people decide their future via free and honest elections!

http://observer.com/2016/10/2006-audio-emerges-of-hillary-clinton-proposing-rigging-palestine-election/
 
RayB 2:10 PM

Comey was the trophy "Republican" for the Democrats. However, he is reportedly no longer a registered Republican. In my humble opinion, he is little more than a corrupt bureaucrat disgracefully looking to protect his own interests at the expense of our national security. I think he was intensely pressured by other FBI agents to "do the right thing" or else!!!

I agree that the overwhelming tide appears to be turning towards Trump. I am hoping that he wins by such a landslide that there won't even be a question of voter fraud.

BTW, Hillary Clinton's friendship with Saul Alinsky was closer that she was willing to admit. He was said to have been her mentor!!!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hillary-clinton-mentor-saul-alinsky-explored-two-new-films-941304
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http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-newly-discovered-letters-hillary-clinton-saul-alinsky-marxist-community-organizer/

 
Just about ready to go on air with much in way of news this morning. Lee Penn will be with me the second hour.

Constance

 
«America Has Lost» in the Philippines
Asian Banana Republic snubs nose at the USA, Read more here:

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/10/25/america-has-lost-in-philippines.html

http://tinyurl.com/h2uyfj7
 
Susanna,

Re: your post @ 1:49, I agree 100%.

Hillary's background is one and the same of numerous "hippies" I knew back in the late 1960's. They all were completely assertive, carrying around with them Mao's "Little Red Book" and often quoting from it. Bill is far more pragmatic and just wants the attention, power and influence (along with money, and lots of it). Hillary is a true doctrinaire Communist that hates America (virtually all 60's radicals hated America) ... even Padesta emailed "we all know she has developed a hatred for everyday Americans."

True Communists are elitists that believe in living the life they deserve to live as enlightened leaders, while their stupid followers languish as peasants. This is what Hillary and her ilk have planned for not only the USA, but the entire world. She is (like the Bushes) an elitist internationalist that is working for the estab. of a One World Government.
 
RayB 4:29 PM

People from the Hillary camp call themselves "progressives," but "progressivism" is merely the new label for "socialism!!!" And as Vladmir Lenin was once quoted as saying "the goal of socialism is communism." Socialism is merely "communism lite."

Another myth that needs to be debunked is the myth that socialism is about "sharing the wealth."

HOGWASH!!!!!

Socialism is not about sharing the wealth. Socialism is about CONTROLLING THE WEALTH and doling it out exclusively to the cronies of those who control it.

One merely has to look at how the wealth has been "shared" in places like Detroit and other Democrat - controlled "plantations" in order to see how this "sharing" has worked out for the African Americans who have believed the socialist lies of the Democrats all these years.

The Establishment RINO's are not much better.

Neither are the radical leftists disguised as religious leaders - including Catholic priests and prelates - who, instead of preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ, have made it their mission to peddle the "gospel according to Marx" all tricked out in "Christian" terminology such as "social justice," etc. With "social justice" being not much different from the "panem et circenses" ( bread and circuses ) of Roman times.

"Panem et circenses" is the usual way in which dictators manipulate people into forgetting the loss of their freedom.

The "hipppies" from the 1960's were, in part, the product of the "Frankfurt School" that had been imported into the United States around the time of the second World War. It is from the Frankfurt School that we get "cultural Marxism."

I think I have posted the following Feb. 15, 2007 American Thinker article before, but it is worth posting again in light of current events.

CULTURAL MARXISM
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/02/cultural_marxism.html
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Here is another link sent to me today by a friend. I thought you might be interested in checking out. I have heard that the next tranche of WikiLeaks may be Hillary Clinton's.


The 100 Most Damaging WikiLeaks ( to Hillary Cliton ) So Far
http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/


 
Clinton Campaign Manager Admits Hillary Lied About FBI Letter To Congress [VIDEO]
http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/30/clinton-campaign-manager-admits-hillary-lied-about-fbi-letter-to-congress-video/







 
Poll: Over a Third of Likely Voters Less Willing to Back Hillary After FBI Bombshell

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/30/poll-hillary-clinton-fbi/
 
Clinton Foundation FBI Investigation Confirmed By Former Assistant FBI Director

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/10/30/clinton-foundation-fbi-investigation-confirmed-former-assistant-fbi-director/
 
Fmr U.S. Atty: Comey’s Hand Forced by FBI ‘Seething’ Anger at Botched Hillary Email Investigation

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/30/fmr-u-s-atty-comeys-hand-forced-by-fbi-seething-anger-at-botched-hillary-email-investigation/
 
Wikileaks: Robert Creamer ‘Close to Robby Mook’
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/10/30/wikileaks-robert-creamer-close-robby-mook/

Note that convicted felon Robert Creamer's wife, Jan Schakowsky, is a socialist and was a member of the Democratic Socialist Party. She is among the 70 Congressional Democrats that the American Socialists have named as being in their ranks.

American Socialists Release Names of 70 Congressional Democrats in Their Ranks

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2010/08/american-socialists-release-names-of-70-congressional-democrats-in-their-caucus/
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By the way, Creamer is one of the archtects of Obamacare and planned it while he was in prison.

CLINTON THUG CREAMER PLANNED OBAMACARE IN JAIL
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/clinton_thug_robert_creamer_planned_obamacare_in_jail.html

 
re my remark about physicist and an ABM discussion, it was a different anonymous, my apologies. because Physicist always posts as anonymous who signs at the end, I did misremember. not same subject at all as FAE. https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=11772087&postID=644652618371640640 May 2, 2012 is where the ABM converted to nuke is discussed. defense shield imminent threat therefore to Russia.

while searching some years to find the conversation, I notice some of my remarks over the years to many were harsher than necessary, I apologize for that.

"Christine's comments...are...inaccurate" I should have linked this article instead http://www.wired.co.uk/article/nasa-validates-impossible-space-drive

"British scientist Roger Shawyer ...built a number of demonstration systems, but critics... insist that, according to the law of conservation of momentum, it cannot work. According to good scientific practice, an independent third party needed to replicate Shawyer's results. ... a Chinese team built its own EmDrive and confirmed that it produced 720 mN (about 72 grams) of thrust, enough for a practical satellite thruster....The Chinese work attracted little attention; it seems that nobody in the West believed in it.

"However, a US scientist, Guido Fetta, has built his own propellant-less microwave thruster, and managed to persuade Nasa to test it out. The test results were presented on July 30 at the 50th Joint Propulsion Conference in Cleveland, Ohio. Astonishingly enough, they are positive." Also in 2014. I wasn't "inaccurate" unless the article is inaccurate. another article described someone figuring belatedly that mathematically its possible after all. Given this failure maybe science isn't infallible and we should consider creationism and electric universe theory.

And 72 grams isn't "just above the margin of error for measurement" when its enough to move a satellite.

"all that outside researchers really have to go on is the NASASpaceflight.com forum...Paul March, an engineer on the Eagleworks team doing the work, contributed to...forum. ... referred queries to his boss...who did not respond"
article Physicist linked. Frankly this reminds me of T. Townsend Brown's work a bit.

"..."All week no comment on my last weekly post" Because no one is breathlessly hanging on to your every word" you all kept answering week after week saying using brain showed lack of The Holy Spirit in my life until I posted the Scripture cites showing you have to use your brain.

(I MADE ONE POST EACH SUNDAY 12 AM OR AFTER finally no one but me and detractors posted so Constance thought all were one day) all defending the indefensible saying I didn't have the Holy Spirit to teach me the meaning of Scripture because I kept saying Luke says Jesus said the Kingdom of Heaven is like leaven and mustard seed, not the abnormal growth of fake churches is like leaven and mustard seed!

http://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/downloads/William_Branhams_Bogus_Healings.pdf heretic blasphemer and fraud important in lives of Coe, Shakarian, Oral Roberts, et. al.

http://www.trimondi.de/EN/front.html anti Tibetan Buddhist resources
 
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Keep them posts disappearing.
 
Turkey/Russia quickly normalizing relations, very friendly, actually.

Cavusoglu: Turkey is ready to accept Russian internal passports
https://russian.rt.com/world/news/329850-turciya-bez-zagranpasporta

The heads of the general staffs of Russia and Turkey discussed the situation in Aleppo
https://russian.rt.com/world/news/329805-genshtaby-rossiya-turciya-aleppo

Turkish FM ready to personally apologize downed Su-24 to the widow of a pilot
https://russian.rt.com/world/news/329799-chavushoglu-pilot-su24


Moscow and Ankara are moving towards the creation of a major energy hub in Turkey
http://www.rbc.ru/business/10/10/2016/57fbc9169a794705f457b88e



 
Well, something old, something new to worry about. Javier Solana and Strobe Talbott are literally licking their chops over the prospect of GLOBAL GOVERNANCE (WORLD GOVERNMENT) in the face of the confusions between the European Union and Trump prospects here in the USA.

Lest we forget, Javier Solana's original position with the European Union was carved out in 1998 with SECTION 666 of the Europa code. He then in his secondary position as Secretary General of the European Union proposed giving himself the power to declare an emergency for Europe -- a good way to take over Europe. That was done as "Recommendation 666". Herb Peters' book RECOMMENDATION 666 is about that -- we shared information during the writing of that book.

The New York Times article THE DECLINE OF THE WEST AND HOW TO STOP IT can be accessed here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/20/opinion/the-decline-of-the-west-and-how-to-stop-it.html

or http://tinyurl.com/h3h2swo

He has not gone away!

Constance
 
If you really want to know what Javier Solana is up to and how influential he remains, all you have to do is monitor his Twitter feeds. Talbott of course, also has a Twitter feed. Both men re-tweet each other’s comments quite frequently. Both men assert that Hillary MUST be the next POTUS, especially Talbott, who sounds like he’s on the verge of a stroke over the possibility of a Trump presidency.

Obviously, in the UNLIKELY event that Trump does win, he would certainly be a hiccup in their planned march towards global governance.

Interestingly enough, one of Solana’s recent TWEETS asserts that BREXIT was illegal under EU guidelines. Seems the Brits didn’t follow the rules when they voted to leave the union.

Here’s a few more recent Solana TWEETS. Enjoy.

Javier Solana: EU has a moral obligation to engage in world security. [11:38 AM - 2 Nov 2016]

Javier Solana: The idea that the directo FBI Comey wanted to help his political party is pretty terrifying [2:22 AM - 3 Nov 2016]

Javier Solana RE-TWEETED the Daily Beast: Republicans weaponize James Comey's FBI to kneecap Hillary Clinton: [Oct. 30 The Daily Beast]

 
Strobe Talbott's recent TWEETS are heavy on the so-called "Russia/Trump connection". In his mind, Trump and Putin both threaten the emerging global order. Talbott promotes the view that Trump and Putin are in cahoots, regardless of the lack of evidence.

Here's an example....

Strobe Talbott ‏@strobetalbott Oct 29

"Mr Putin’s target is the liberal international order." If he hits that target, we're in for a bad century. https://www.ft.com/content/e7db344c-9aca-11e6-b8c6-568a43813464 … via @FT

 
Agreed, Constance and omots. I've followed his (and his shadow Talbott) tweets for a while now and they're very telling. He watches like a hawk.
I also watch Mogherini, etc., coming and going and the EU might be in for some big shakeups. I think he is still often the behind the scenes hand in that glove.
Perhaps Solana might catch a break after all, to make his way back to the top.

We'll see.....
Everything doing the moving and shaking in the world seems up for grabs right about now.
 
I really don't see how anyone can subscribe to the notion that all this shaking up is being controlled by one super-secret, super-powerful entity running both sides - ie, "the dialectic". Sure dialectics has played - and still plays - a role in world events, but it's not the explanation for EVERYTHING!

You can believe all the NWO conspiracies you want to. But I gotta believe that there is real opposition, in low places AND high, to whatever the Globalists / New Agers have planned. I think it's that opposition that we are seeing really causing a stir. I think Trump is (probably unknowingly) a part of the populist movement to oppose any attempts at world government. He is quickly becoming the unofficial "leader" of this movement. Maybe the ones who orchestrated Brexit are other such leaders. Anonymous might be part of that movement as well, although they might be part of the New Age phoenix that rises from the ashes of the fires they are starting.

The real issue is this: Whenever someone talks of their plans for the world, do they have the POWER to back up the implementation of those plans? Because in the end, power will be needed to attempt the rebuilding of the Tower of Babel, which is really what's going on with the whole global government / New Age movements.

Does the EU have any REAL power, say, in the face of the Russian military? (Especially when taking into account nuclear strategic and tactical forces.) Or can Solana/Morgherini/etc do anything to stop China from, say, taking over Southeast Asia and the Pacific? I don't think they do. Not now anyway. A LOT would have to change in the power balance for that to change.

 
I MIGHT buy a used car from Federica Mogherini. NEVER from Javier Solana.

Constance
 
Marko,

I know it's hard and expensive to find -- try a library, but ELAINE DEWAR'S book is MUST READING. She tells how especially China and Russia were a strong part of Maurice Strong's "global governance" equation.

Constance
 
Huge set-back for BREXIT (and individual freedom) as Britain's High Court has ruled that Article 50 cannot be implemented without the approval of Britain's Parliament.

Now the issue will be put into the hands of the globalist/politicians that are bought and paid for by the one world government elite.

BREXIT won overwhelmingly by the vote of the people. Just as it happens in our own country, Britain's High Court has ignored the will of the people.

Make no mistake about this; BREXIT's defeat will be a great victory for those that are working to construct the evil, despotic, One World Government dictatorship ... all being packaged and sold under the banner of global "peace and safety."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/03/high-court-to-rule-on-brexit-legal-battle-and-theresa-mays-decis/
 


The court ruling will likely create a huge mess...especially since May seems intent on ignoring it. Cracks are appearing in the EU foundation regardless.


"U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May pledged to stick to her Brexit timetable after a court ruled that she needs Parliament’s permission to begin negotiations."

"The government immediately said it will appeal the decision, adding that it believes the legal process will allow Britain’s exit from the European Union by mid-2019. The prime minister’s spokeswoman, Helen Bower, said plans to invoke Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty by the end of March remained unchanged."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-03/may-unbowed-by-court-ruling-pledges-to-hold-to-brexit-timetable
 
I think it will be basically the same over on this side of the pond too, RayB.

Too much sovereignty was given away, no wait....thrown away, is more like it. The global machine is too advanced over there, and I think, people are too much about "peace and safety" here too. Somebody will have to use the emergency brakes real fast at this point to stop it.

Mogherini herself seems pretty benign, but the governance policies she is pushing (with Solana guidance) are not.
 
"Share International regrets to announce that Benjamin Creme, British artist, author and lecturer has died. He passed away peacefully on 24 October 2016 at his home in London, with his family around him."

I bet Creme is NOT resting in peace now. At least Don Keys and Mo Strong have some company.

 
Does anyone here know if the "knight", i.e. chess piece, is ever used as a symbol in occult circles? After reading this morning's sensational Drudge headlines re John Podesta and possible connection via Tony Podesta to Thelema rituals, noticed the "knight" is used as the centerpiece for the Podesta Group, which is arguably the most influential lobbying firm in Washington, with well established connections to Egypt via Tony Podesta. Is it possible these folks see themselves, or call themselves "knights" as in, Templars?
 
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/11/04/spirit-cooking-wikileaks-reveals-clinton-campaign-manager-member-of-weirdo-sex-cult-2/
It’s being called the “most bizarre Wikileaks email to date.” A leaked email from Clinton campaign manager John Podesta show John’s brother Tony inviting John and his wife Mary to take part in a “spirit cooking” dinner at the home of occult “artist” Marina Abramovic.
 
To Anon @ 11:25 AM ..

Satanism/Occultism/Wiccan is far bigger in higher up politics than most Americans could ever imagine. Same is true for the entertainment industry, in particular in Hollywood, Cable TV, etc. Obviously, it is huge in the "rock n roll" industry.

By the way, Cathy O'Brien (you can google her name on Youtube) made the claim YEARS ago that the Clintons were Satanists and that SHE was molested by Hillary in a Satanic ritual. Cathy was a brainwashed youth that was used in a political/Satanic sex trade involving underage youths. She and her husband (former CIA) have maintained this same testimony for decades ... and have dedicated their entire lives helping other victims.

Things in DC are FAR more worse (to the point of being almost unbelievable) than most people can wrap their head around!
 

Link to Youtube where Cathy O'Brien gives her account of the Clintons, the Mena, Arkansas Cocaine trade, etc.

You may be tempted to believe that this is too far fetched to be believed. More times than not, truth is stranger than fiction!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouQbkY_FYGc
 
My husband's cousin was a Delta pilot years ago and his wife, on one of her frequent flights to go join him, engaged in a lengthy conversation with a woman seated next to her. This was in the 1990's so a while back now, and the topic turned to marriage. The woman spoke about her open marriage and our relative, a devout Christian, was speaking against the idea, siting Scripture, and the woman said she was a Christian too. Of course, it was a stalemate on the topic but it was only a little bit later that the cousins' wife found out to whom she had been speaking.
It was Hillary Rodham Clinton. Her husband had recently become the governor of Arkansas.
Lots of things went very haywire in Bible Belt Arkansas...

And here we are today. Bad, gone to worse. Much, much worse.
 
Anonymous and RayB,


WikiLeaks: John Podesta Invited to Bizarre Occult Ritual, 'Spirit Cooking'


By Debra Heine November 4, 2016


...A newly released WikiLeaks email sheds disturbing light on the the spiritual proclivities of the Podesta brothers.

In the email, Tony Podesta forwards an invitation to attend a "spirit cooking dinner" from performance artist Marina Abramovic to his brother John Podesta, chairman of the Clinton campaign. Born in Belgrade, Serbia, Abramovic is considered "the grandmother of performance art."

A spirit cooking dinner is an occult ritual started by Abramovic that derives from the religion of "Thelema," founded by noted British occultist/Satanist Aleister Crowley
...read more...

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/11/04/wikileaks-john-podesta-invited-to-bizarre-occult-ritual/
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“Spirit Cooking”: Clinton Campaign Chairman Practices Bizarre Occult Ritual

http://www.infowars.com/spirit-cooking-clinton-campaign-chairman-invited-to-bizarre-satanic-performance/


I am wondering if this is tied in any way with the six visits Hillary Clinton reportedly paid to a "sex island" with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. "Crowleyanity" as it was called, involved "sex magick."

Report: Bill Clinton Wasn't Only One to Go to 'Sex Slave Island,' Hillary Went with Him--'Six Times'

http://ijr.com/wildfire/2016/11/728945-report-bill-clinton-wasnt-the-only-one-to-go-to-sex-island-hillary-went-with-him-six-times/
 
P.S.

Here is the Breitbart report.

ERIC PRINCE: NYPD READY TO MAKE ARRESTS IN ANTHONY WEINER CASE
Nov. 4, 2016
Clinton’s email server last week.



“Because of Weinergate and the sexting scandal, the NYPD started investigating it. Through a subpoena, through a warrant, they searched his laptop, and sure enough, found those 650,000 emails. They found way more stuff than just more information pertaining to the inappropriate sexting the guy was doing,” Prince claimed.

“They found State Department emails. They found a lot of other really damning criminal information, including money laundering, including the fact that Hillary went to this sex island with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton went there more than 20 times. Hillary Clinton went there at least six times,” he said....


http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/11/04/erik-prince-nypd-ready-make-arrests-weiner-case/
 
BREAKING: Marina Abramovic mentioned in BRAND NEW State Department emails with Huma & Hillary!
Secretary of State - FOIA Request Reponse

Posted on ‎11‎/‎4‎/‎2016‎ ‎6‎:‎34‎:‎25‎ ‎PM by TigerClaws

Contents at link.

There was also a revelation that the Clinton Foundation funded Maria Abramovic to the tune of $10,000.

No money for the Haitian hurricane victims, but $10k for the Satan rituals.......

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3489331/posts
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Many people don't realize that Haiti is a "vodou" capital of the West.

FYI................

HAITIAN VODOU
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Vodou


 
It is entirely possible that Hillary is in fact a Satan worshiper.

Larry Nichols is no joke ... he worked for the Clintons for YEARS and knows their hidden secrets.

Check this out ... Nichols claimed that Bill Clinton himself told Nichols that Hillary was attending some type of "witches church" in LA:

http://www.infowars.com/hillary-regularly-attended-witchs-church-clinton-insider-claims/


 


This just out .... Hillary has announced her choice for "Economic Czar" in order to really, like, get the economy moving.

Here's just a short clip, in which Hillary's plan is articulated by her Czarina:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScgFIKXKFkc
 
A “knight in shiny armor", or an "angel of light"?

“Spirit Cooking” is based on the “Cake of Light ritual” developed by the infamous Aleister Crowley. The Thelema ritual takes place in the kitchen of course, and involves the mixing of various bodily fluids with honey and baking it into a “cake” which is consumed after completing an initial blood ritual and committing various immoral sex acts.

We know Satanic High Preist Aleister Crowley was very involved with the Ordo Templi Orientis, or Knights Templars in Great Britian, and later, with branches of the order established in the United States.

Crowley said this about the Ordo Templi Orientis, which interestingly enough, sounds every bit like Sri Chimnoy, Don Keys, and other global spiritualists, including today’s Agenda 2030 sympathizers:

”It (the O.T.O.) offers a rational basis for universal brotherhood and for universal religion. It puts forward a scientific statement which is a summary of all that is at present known about the universe by means of a simple, yet sublime symbolism, artistically arranged. It also enables each man to discover for himself his personal destiny, indicates the moral and intellectual qualities which he requires in order to fulfil it freely, and finally puts in his hands an unimaginably powerful weapon which he may use to develop in himself every faculty which he may need in his work.” [Crowley, Aleister. The Confessions of Aleister Crowley, ch. 72.]

So, to answer the question posed by ANON 9:48.... these new emails detailing the Satanic depravity of Tony Podesta, coupled with the implied depravity of his brother John, tells me it’s a good bet that the “knight” used as a symbol for the Podesta Group is very likely meant to convey the brothers true, but secret, allegiance.

 
Anonymous 11:25 I posted the link knowing it would draw a lot of attention. I could have given much more information, but I thought it would be better to let others share what they knew, thus bringing the topic to the forefront. This is the way information sharing on the New Age movement works best. It worked better than even I expected it would.
 
This may have fit better in the last post about Brexit.
It is a look at the Political/Religious Organization of Lausanna Organization's take on Brexit. Favoring globalism and socialism IMO.

BREXIT and its Impact on European Mission

https://www.lausanne.org/content/lga/2016-09/brexit-impact-european-mission?utm_source=Lausanne+Movement&utm_campaign=26f4f3f63d-Movement-Connection-Oct-2016

http://alturl.com/ixk2y


 
Married, With Art
Tony and Heather Podesta Are a Study in Power Collecting

By Jessica Dawson
Special to The Washington Post
Thursday, September 23, 2004; Page C01

https://archive.fo/HhWH9

Posesta uses the occult, is therefore a king maker?
 
years ago, when Bill Clinton was running the first time, I read of two "messages" supposedly very different people got: A charismatic Christian got the word from "God" that He was backing Clinton and a wiccan or something similar got the word from "the goddess" that she was backing Clinton.

That should tell you right there that the power behind all the categories of occultism, whether "right hand" or "left hand" is the same, I suggest you use this in arguing with such people. (the events themselves can probably be located online somewhere but it will take a lot of trouble.)

AND that should tell you something is very wrong in the charismatic scene. If nothing else, the passive state of letting go, not using the mind, etc. etc. that is taught to let "the Holy Spirit" possess you (and one gal told me that yes it was a kind of possession, she used the term after some arguing) is precisely what the demons need (and God does NOT need) to work on you.

Jesse Penn-Lewis discusses this in War Against the Saints. you can probably find a pdf. This was from the 1830s revivals in England or Wales.

I deleted the request for Constance to check her spam file, so this is one post this week. Since being told to keep it to once a week I have done so, the posts Constance thought were in one day were each made at or after 12 am successive Sundays on that prior thread. one of my detractors said "see you next week" showing this is the case.

I also took a photo of this and the last deletion I made before doing so so that if someone wants to lie about what was deleted I can show what it was. the posts around it show enough to show what it was.
 
Christine,

All microwave-drive experiments conducted in air should be ignored now that some have been conducted in a vacuum, because the presence of gas molecules offers multiple ways to complicate the result. I quoted the 2015 in-vacuo results as giving effects that were marginal, ie right on the boundary of chance variations and of experimental technology. Quotes from the in-air experiments cut no ice.

Time will tell (we don't have to settle this in the next 24 hours) and I support further research. Based on the pattern of these anomalies and on precedent when that pattern has arisen elsewhere in physics, and also on my confidence in momentum conservation, I'd bet that nothing will come of it. But I'll be interested to see, and here is a golden opportunity if it is true for someone to win a Nobel Prize and/or get rich as a backer.

 
PS That is me, Physicist, above at 6.11am.
 
Just about ready to go on air at www.themicroeffect.com for my regular Saturday morning radio program. Join me there and call in to 208-935-0094. MUCH to talk about this morning!

Constance

 
If you bothered to check your blog, you would have read what everybody posted about the woman and Podesta. You wouldn't have been so clueless about the topic on your show this morning.
 
To 11:14 am

You are so kind and gracious -- NOT.

Constance
 
To 10:06 pm

Sorry I didn't read your post before Chris called in on my program this morning. I've been pursuing some of my other lines of research -- that should be of equal interest to readers here -- I'VE DISCOVERED THAT JAVIER SOLANA'S EU ALTER EGO, his spokesperson when he was running the EU, CRISTINA GALLACH is now a major undersecretary at the United Nations working directly under Ban Ki Moon. She took action to oust a press organization pointing out UN corruption and nepotism, INNER CITY PRESS. On two hours notice they were ejected from the UN building. CHANGE.ORG has petitions going to reinstate them.

A very interesting development -- and I suspect that Solana himself is equally enmeshed in the UN operations, albeit perhaps hiding behind Ms. Gallach's skirts!

Constance
 
Vis a vis the Podesta Spirit Cooking story, as I just read it, it appears that the actress invited him to dinner. It's not presently clear to me that he knew what "Spirit Cooking" was before going. That's the lawyer in me coming out -- If there is further evidence on this, it is of course of deep interest. I'm reviewing the press coverage.

Constance
 
Dangers in the Libertarian party as well. Check this!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/6/augustus-sol-invictus-stirs-florida-senate-race-ta/

or

http://tinyurl.com/gr66bcd

Constance
 
Tony Podesta and Marina Abramovic's "Spirit Cooking" does tie in with the original topic of this particular thread, i.e. "Agenda 21" and the political interests who intend to force compliance.

After all, John Podesta, aside from being HRC's current handler, was the U.S. High Representative to the U.N. planning commission that took the original Agenda 21 MDG's to a much higher level of global entanglement by morphing it into what is now known as "Agenda 2030".

A key component of the revised agenda is it's "universalism", the concept that no nation and no individual can/will be left out. In fact, John Podesta himself has emphasized the need to establish some type of universal I.D. system that can be assigned to, and track every individual no matter where they live in the world from birth to death.

Tony Podesta, John's brother and partner, admits to being a huge fan of the aforementioned Abramovic, who, despite her denials, is obviously enamored with occult ritualism. Her own artwork betrays her Satanic obsessions. The fact that Tony Podesta would forward an invitation to John about a ritual dinner at Abramovic's abode tells us all we really need to know about these people and their intentions.

 
I have noticed over the years that the disclaimer "It's only ART!" or "it's only ENTERTAINMENT!" has smuggled the New Age and its Satanism into every living room. Thank you though, Constance, for your robust legal common sense on the Podesta allegations! Eyes towards heaven; feet firmly on the ground...

I notice that Benjamin Creme has finally gone to his reward.


 
We have validation from Bob Woodward and reinforced by the Clintons themselves that Hillary practiced necromancy.
Now we see the Time and NYT evoking Eleanor on behalf of Hillary just days prior to the election

Hillary Clinton Channels Eleanor Roosevelt On the Stump
………on a spring day in 1995, according to an account published by Bob Woodward, the Washington investigative journalist of Watergate fame, Clinton ‘communed’ with Eleanor Roosevelt in the White House solarium. Jean Houston, an author with something of the New Age about her, was visiting the First Lady at the White House, and proposed, Woodward writes, that Clinton "search further and dig deeper for her connections to Mrs. Roosevelt." Clinton closed her eyes, and spoke to Roosevelt—and then she spoke as if she were Roosevelt herself. Houston later told the New York Times that this was more “brainstorming” session than séance, but all the same, a conjuring: “an imaginative exercise to force her ideas, to think about how Eleanor would have responded to a particular problem.” At the dedication for the Four Freedoms Park, in 2012, President Bill Clinton joked about this incident. He said, “As all of you famously learned when I served as president, my wife, now the secretary of state, was known to commune with Eleanor on a regular basis. So she called me last night on her way home from Peru to remind me to say that: That Eleanor had talked to her and reminded her that I should say that."
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-06-13/hillary-clinton-channels-eleanor-roosevelt-on-the-stump
http://tinyurl.com/zl469sd

Time: Eleanor Roosevelt, Hillary Clinton and the Legacy of Powerful First Ladies
http://time.com/4551325/eleanor-roosevelt-hillary-clinton-first-ladies/
http://tinyurl.com/hzprrqf

NYT: ‘I’m With Her’: The Strengths of Hillary Clinton
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/opinion/sunday/im-with-her-the-strengths-of-hillary-clinton.html
http://tinyurl.com/jqwcfro

 
Constance,

I just picked up your message this a.m. I would like very much to discuss with you Gallach's expulsion of the press. This is now the second time within a very short time period I'm hearing of the UN's expulsion of journalists. It recently happened to a Canadian journalist covering the climate change conference. The expulsion even alarmed the left leaning press.

http://tinyurl.com/jlz6q9o

I'll be working in the orchard today. I'll give you a call this evening.

Rich
 
RayB 7:26 PM

RE: Check this out ... Nichols claimed that Bill Clinton himself told Nichols that Hillary was attending some type of "witches church" in LA:

http://www.infowars.com/hillary-regularly-attended-witchs-church-clinton-insider-claims/


WOW!!!!!!! And she claims to be a "Methodist!!!!"
 
To 2:09 pm

Re John Podesta information. Very important AND DISTURBING. Thanks for making me aware of this -- we need to share this type of information and I thank you for it.

Constance
 
To Susanna 1:49 pm

Tongue in cheek, perhaps that's her METHOD?

Constance
 
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9273/balfour-declaration

Some important history here and many important anniversaries coming up for Israel in 2017.
 
Constance 2:17PM

I get the tongue in cheek, but it could very well be that this IS her METHOD.

Satanists are said to frequently adopt the strategy of posing as members of various Christian denominations. Not only to disguise themselves, but also to make a further mockery out of Christianity.

The following article was embedded in the article posted earlier by RayB.

Flashback: Occultic Hillary Summons the Dead, Refuses to Speak to Christ

Hillary was attending a Satanic church, says Clinton insider


Kit Daniels - November 4, 2016

Bill Clinton himself sought a Voodoo ceremony in Haiti prior to the 1992 presidential election and later in 1995 to ensure his second term.

“As time would tell, Clinton paid more than a politician’ s lip service to the practice of Voodoo,” reported the Canada Free Press. “According to the Haiti Observateur, ‘During a March 31, 1995 visit to Haiti under Aristide’ s restored rule, Clinton took part in a Voodoo initiative ceremony intended to keep him impervious to Republican attacks and to guarantee his re-election.’”
...read more...

http://www.infowars.com/flashback-occultic-hillary-summons-the-dead-refuses-to-speak-to-christ/
_______________________________________

VOODOO AND CLINTON'S FATE

Haitian sorcerers claim credit for his victories and defeats
12/14/1998

http://www.wnd.com/1998/12/3471/
________________________________________

 
As you have all probably heard by now, FBI "director" Comey has dropped the investigation into the new emails. His previous conclusion re: Clinton stands.

Watch former Clinton insider Larry Nichols predict this over a week ago ... along with why and how it was done ... Nichols appears @ 3:10 in the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS86sSnVHRA

We are now officially living in a rigged, crooked, Banana Republic. If Hillary is elected, we are completely doomed.
 
Pope Francis proposes 6 new beatitudes for "modern times" including this little gem...

"Blessed are those who protect and care for our common home [the earth]."



http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2016/11/01/six-new-beatitudes-proposed/
 
You can do that when you consider yourself a god.

 
Physicist, what is your source for the air vs. vaccuum tests and WHICH was at the presentation?

"all that outside researchers really have to go on is the NASASpaceflight.com forum...Paul March, an engineer on

the Eagleworks team doing the work, contributed to...forum. ... referred queries to his boss...who did not respond"
article Physicist linked. If this is all you have to work with then it isn't very solid.

re Constance "Dangers in the Libertarian party as well." libertarianism is a kind of satanism lite philosophy
gone political. Ayn Rand its fountainhead was an atheist and pro abortionist

Susanna, re Hillary as witch "WOW!!!!!!! And she claims to be a "Methodist!!!!"

the worst traditional witches and satanists are church goers often ministers or priests. Interesting that
Bill Clinton took communion in South Africa, I wonder if he swallowed the Host or retained it in his mouth and
smuggled it off to be used in a black mass or something similar. I just listened to Larry Nichols saying he had

wanted her to be interviewed coming out of church and saying she loves Jesus and she said that is something

she can never say. Even though it is to put it mildly extremely unlikely that the real Jesus would be answering

any channeling effort, she can't even stand His Name enough to try it, or to fake love of Him and Christianity.

except somehow she manages this (probably silent during prayers)

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/09/hillarys-prayer-hillary-clintons-religion-and-politics
Hillary involved with The Family. interesting. I wonder if some of them are secretly satanists.
http://www.religionandspirituality.com/view/post/12082179981585/Doug_Coe_the_Fellowship_Hillary_Clinton_an

d_Why_You_Should_Care/ "Doug Coe... caught on tape praising the personal relationships shared by Hitler,

Goebbels and Himmler....Coe expressed admiration for the dedication of Chinese soldiers who... were forced to

chop off the heads of their mothers as a demonstration of their commitment to the People’s Republic of China."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVrQkunIZXo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5071798 THIRTY-

THREE members organize the National Prayer Breakfast?! sounds masonic, which masons hork off the 33 years

of Jesus' time on earth, and this could be the excuse here also. Coe et. al. were also admirers of Willliam

Branham anti trinitarian.

Wonder if any led double lives or an occasional orgy and got blackmailed?

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n2243.cfm Doc Marquis ID'd Bill and Hillary and her outranking Bill, back in

2007. https://www.scribd.com/doc/271910613/William-Branham-and-Homosexual-Pigalle article mentions his

professional relationship with MSOG Ern Baxter.

http://www.insider-magazine.com/christianmafia.htm#_ftn3 scroll down to find Hillary's involvement article

ismostly history IMPORTANT. Coe goes to Bohemian Grove and the Renaissance Weekend is where the
Third Way idea got developed (as distinct from earlier wilder type third way ideas, this is more civilized). "one senior Pentagon official said, “the Fellowship has nothing to do with God or Jesus, it is a capitalist cult.”
 
Constance: please fish my reply to Christine out of your spam folder.

Christine: you will receive your reply. In summary, you quoted only one part of the link I gave, neglecting Prof. Seigel's comments therein that the magnitude of any effect observed was close to the noise threshold for the experiments performed in vacuo. I agree that the results are inconclusive and that more work needs to be done. That cuts both ways, of course, for your original post (above) took with glee the effect to be definite and all theoretical physicists as arrogant fools. I am glad that you are now closer to the truth, but you might admit that you have changed your position. If the language in your original post does not embarrass you, it should.

Physicist

 
"If the language in your original post does not embarrass you, it should."

Where there is no sense there is no feeling.
 
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