Thursday, October 09, 2008


The financial picture is much murkier and dangerous than mere bad mortgages, bad as they were. High stakes "swaps" and derivatives were popular gambling forms in trillion dollar unregulated "gold rush." I learned of this ungodly market years ago -- in fact, that's what forced me to learn Excel -- to keep up with a disbarred attorney who applied for work for me under federal parole supervision. Tim Mucciante was a high flying attorney who had impeccable table manners, handled himself with elegance and defrauded sophisticated New Yorkers out of millions. While he was still in prison, at the referral of Jewel VanderMerwe, I handled a small legal matter for him. Later he made telephone contact with my office manager and sold himself for employment to her as a penitent with legal skills. She told me he was willing to work for $14 per hour and begged me to hire him to keep up with my then very large caseload. I was startled to find evidence that he was structuring deals with debt swaps with clients I was counseling for possible bankruptcy relief. He left my office, going to the office of another attorney he convinced he could enrich. I was convinced then that this was a scheme that could bankrupt companies and even nations. It appears I was right.

The last I read of Mr. Mucciante, he was in prison in Utah for another defrauding crime connected with swaps.

I became familiar with the literature and theories of the swap industry and was dismayed but not surprised to learn this was the real factor behind the collapse. Naturally, that unregulated industry comprised of some of the greediest folk on the face of this earth would like to see all the blame go to the bad mortgages where clearly SOME of the blame goes, but it is a much bigger issue.

I will have much more to say about this later, but the 60 minute series which is linked under the headline above will give you an excellent introduction. It was speculation in derivatives that brought much of England's economy to its knees years ago. George Soros has made much of his fortune in the swaps and derivatives market, although I understand he has testified recently to Congress that this is what may have caused the collapse.

Stay tuned!

Dow closed down 678 .


I know that you are well read in citizenship, but have you looked at Phillip Berg's site?

Hope I'm not re-establishing something that's been hashed out.

I took my money out of the market late August- Few! Not sure what to do with it, but buy big macks and put them in the freezer!

JB in CO

You are exactly right. There are $Trillions, with a "T," in swaps. I agree it's not the mortgage failures that's the biggest issue.

My concern is that there is no way to save the swaps once they start to fold. All the bailouts to the key banks and brokerages has been, I believe, to help save the swaps. If they fail the financial system will absolutely be in meltdown mode. They can't print fast enough to solve this problem. If they could, the dollar would be toast any way.

Thanks for all of your incredible work. I read you blog and columns daily and pass on your information to others.

Thankfully our Lord is bigger than all the swaps and will be our source no matter what happens.

All God's best,

Dave in CA
1. Barack Obama's mother was clearly a citizen of the United States when he was born. Even if he was born when she was 12, rather than the 18 she was, that would still make him a citizen.

2. His Kenyan father was in Hawaii on a scholarship attending college. Scholarship students usually are not wealthy enough to take off.

3. It appears Papa could not get away from the familial responsibilities with his young wife and baby Barack fast enough -- highly unlikely in my family law experience (which is highly extensive -- 33 years worth!) that he would have spent the money for TWO round trip plane tickets from Hawaii to Kenya and return.

4. I have viewed pictures in the past of what purported to be Barack Obama's mother and father -- it was clearly a University setting in Hawaii -- not Kenya, Africa.


6. All my life I have despised anti-semitism, racism and snobbery. I am fearful that this is somewhat bordering on this -- not as to Dorothy who supported Keyes for both President and U.S. Senator from Illinois in the past -- but, I would like to put the discussion to bed on the where Barack Obama was born issue. As far as demanding he go get documents -- folks, I do have political experience. I do practice law on busy days where I get what I called "fried brain syndrome." I would have trouble finding my own birth documents right now (no, I was born in Indiana, not India or Kenya) -- and on one of those "fried brain days" -- LEAST OF MY WORRIES -- FORGET IT!

We've got bigger issues than
Barack Obama's birth certificate and our beating the drums on it will only stir up the sympathy vote for him. If he is elected, we might just have to deal with him for at least 4 years, so let's be the loyal opposition, not Liberty Lobby type hate specialists!

To Dave in California:

Thanks for your astute observations and very kind words!

This may yet be the bigger and not well understod story of this crisis. The mortgages paid for with monopoly money are just part America's particular crisis, not the whole story.
Even if it's your blog, it's not matter of your opinion. It's a matter of law. It's only one of many concerns about Obama, but one that shouldn't be ignored. If Obama is to be considered a natural born citizen, let's see the law involved. He can get a copy of his birth certificate. He doesn't have to find it in some drawer in his grandmother's rec room.


This just in from the Brookings Institution -- REMEMBER -- they are Javier Solana are working to establish GLOBAL GOVERNANCE by 2009:

Reform the IMF or Create a New Global Agency

Colin Bradford and Johannes Linn stress the need for financial leaders to seek a more vigorous role for the IMF in the global financial crisis, and urge leaders to create a new agency to help deal with the urgent challenges if the IMF cannot take the leading role."
LET'S PUT THE BURDEN OF PROOF ON THOSE PROCLAIMING HIS MOTHER WAS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN! Let's see the law saying he is not a citizen -- burden of proof to prove a negative -- sounds very much like what I was put through by my critics claiming there was no New Age Movement!

This is just the start of the fall out - the commercial real estate market is yet to take its hit - yes it seems scary, but have we not all been expecting something of this magnitude to happen?
Praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ keep the faith, keep His testimony and do not love life more than Him.


I left you a message on the last thread. Can you check it out?


For someone who is/was so concerned about JS's parentage, ancestry, origin, etc. I'm a little surprised you are willing to overlook the very legitimate questions/doubts re Obama's family history/origins.

But then again, with the new global commons and open border mentality, I guess we shouldn't be concerned about archaic concepts like "sovereignty" and "citizenship". Barack Obama is, after all, a citizen of the world, and I guess that's all that really counts these days.

Likewise, if Solana does turn out to be one of the Revelation beasts, no one is going to care about his earthly family origins either. We'll just have to deal with the lout for the next, four, er, three and a half, er, okay, maybe seven years.

[And just FYI, I did vote Ron Paul this last primary, which does not make me an anti-semite or a racist. Fact is Alan Keyes also got my vote, (and some of my money) a couple of elections prior.]

You have to see this video of Louis Farrakan calling Senator Obama the Messiah.


I wonder if this will be before or after Damascus is destroyed?

I read and replied to your post on the other thread. Thanks for pointing it out here.

Young Grasshopper - What do you know about Julie Meyer? (Not affilated with Joyce Meyers) I stumbled across her after studying up on Pastor Mark Arnold (regarding McCain and Palin - Palin being a present day Esther) and I don't know....I felt she was genuine and was moved and can't get her messages out of my head regarding her prophecy and message about McCain/Palin. Let me know your insight. I was MOVED to TEARS today during my quiet time (I do daycare) and I can't get the message out of my head. I believe in the power of prayer AND I KNOW that GOD is in CONTROL of ALL - but Oh my Oh my - I just don't think we are ready for an obama-nation and I know that the country deserves what we get BUT I PRAY THAT GOD will FORGIVE if we can turn it around. I just pray that we get a reprieve from the obama nation.

How well do you think these kids will fit into an Obama nation (maybe his youth corps)? It's a NYT article about eco indoctrination of our children and it's frighteningly effective.

Pint-Size Eco-Police, Making
Parents Proud and Sometimes Crazy
I believe the swaps problem will lead to the final implementation of a world financial system much like the WTO -- the usual suspects are all calling for this to happen.

The recent simultaneous interest rate cut across the western nations is the first fully public action by this new fully functional financial world order.

Look for more action in this direction as the problems continue to unfold and as the pumping of $Billions, if not 100's of $Billions, every day into the financial system (most of which is not reported by the news) has minimal effect on the situation.

The well-publicized $700 Billion (sorry, $850 Billion) bailout is only a small part of what's been given out by the Fed and Treasury.

Dave in CA
This election is all about the "tipping point".

Obama clearly represents the new paradigm.

Candidates Paul and Keyes clearly represent the "bitter clingers".

We had to get here sooner or later.
Oh Wow!!! Is this crass campaign video for Obama for real? It was mentioned on the BBC news site but even I, an open minded, fairly well travelled Brit couldn't stomach it through to the end!



Oooh - I've re-visited to check the links and now see it comes with a warning!
Ahtisaari (Solana buddy on the Balkans) wins Nobel Peace Prize 2008!
Solana is apparently trying to conceal his parents because of Nieves Mathews open acknowledgment of the deep occult connections in the family (Sufism, Krishnamurti, etc.) That is a far cry rom where he was born. The issues are very different on Barack Obama where now people are suggesting that perhaps his American born 18 year old mother lacked citizenship! Unless Obama's mother was not his mother, I find the issue lacks merit.

Dave in CA.

Astute observation you made.

The world is totally coordinating its efforts in ways we've never witnessed before in history. Having been out of the market for about 10 years, I was surprised to turn the TV on yesterday to CNBC and see all sorts of names come up that I didn't know even existed, such as the Dow Jones World Sustainability Index and the NYSE

Clearly, we are there. With Obama about to be elected (probably by a landslide in view of how well ACORN is registering dead people) the last piece of the puzzle will fall into place for full blown global governance to take effect.
Obama's mother:
The following quote from "Dreams of my Father", indicates Obama's mother was very much an occultist similar to Solana's mother:

"For my mother, organized religion too often dressed up closed-mindedness in the garb of piety, cruelty and oppression in the cloak of righteousness.

This isn't to say that she provided me with no religious instruction. In her mind, a working knowledge of the world's great religions was a necessary part of any well-rounded education. In our household the Bible, the Koran, and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology. On Easter or Christmas Day my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites. But I was made to understand that such religious samplings required no sustained commitment on my part. Religion was an expression of human culture, she would explain, not its wellspring, just one of the many ways — and not necessarily the best way — that man attempted to control the unknowable and understand the deeper truths about our lives. "

I've also read she spent time living in a Buddhist temple.
Apparently someone else agrees with Constance's assessment that Sarah Palin is a modern day Deborah.

Thanks Mary, for leading me to this video. Julie Meyer prophesizes that Ohio will hold the key to the elections.

JB and fan's of Miriam Franklin need not watch, as all the bogeymen in the world will be brought to light regarding latter rain and such.
Anon 1:49

"And I will make mere lads their princes, and capricious children will rule over them, and the people will be oppressed, each one by another, and each one by his neighbor; the youth will storm against the elder and the inferior against the honorable." Isaiah 3:4-5 NASB

After reading your posted link, this scripture popped in mind...

Italian Prime Minister has suggested world market close while world leaders rewrite the world financial system. On Drudge now.


A New Bretton Woods for those of you who remember that bit of history.

Take a look at

Obama using fraudulently doctored video to make it appear that Israel wants Americans to vote for Barack Obama

It has to do with the Jewish group working with Sarah Silverman, the little piggie that should have her mouth washed out with soap.


October 10, 2008

PAWNS IN 'FRAUD': Freddie Johnson, yesterday in Cleveland, and Lateala Goins told of filling out voter registrations multiple times in the ACORN scandal revealed by The Post yesterday.CLEVELAND - A man at the center of a voter-registration scandal told The Post yesterday he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times, in apparent violation of Ohio laws.

"Sometimes, they come up and bribe me with a cigarette, or they'll give me a dollar to sign up," said Freddie Johnson, 19, who filled out 72 separate voter-registration cards over an 18-month period at the behest of the left-leaning Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

"The ACORN people are everywhere, looking to sign people up. I tell them I am already registered. The girl said, 'You are?' I say, 'Yup,' and then they say, 'Can you just sign up again?' " he said.

Johnson used the same information on all of his registration cards, and officials say they usually catch and toss out duplicate registrations. But the practice sparks fear that some multiple registrants could provide different information and vote more than once by absentee ballot.

ACORN is under investigation in Ohio and at least eight other states - including Missouri, where the FBI said it's planning to look into potential voter fraud - for over-the-top efforts to get as many names as possible on the voter rolls regardless of whether a person is registered or eligible.

It's even under investigation in Bridgeport, Conn., for allegedly registering a 7-year-old girl to vote, according to the State Elections Enforcement Commission.

Meanwhile, a federal judge yesterday ordered Ohio's Secretary of State to verify the identity of newly registered voters by matching them with other government documents. The order was in response to a Republican lawsuit unrelated to the ACORN probe in Cuyahoga County, in which at least three people, including Johnson, have been subpoenaed.

Bribing citizens with gifts, property or anything of value is a fourth-degree felony in Ohio, punishable by up to 18 months in prison. And it's a fifth-degree felony - punishable by 12 months in jail - for a person to pay "compensation on a fee-per-registration" system when signing up someone to vote.

Johnson, who works at a cellphone kiosk in downtown Cleveland, said he was a sitting duck for the signature hunters, but was always happy to help them out in exchange for a smoke or a little scratch. He'd collected 10 to 20 cigarettes and anywhere from $10 to $15, he said.

The Cleveland voting probe, first reported by The Post yesterday, also focused on Lateala Goins, who said she put her name on multiple voter registrations. She guessed ACORN canvassers then put fake addresses on them. "You can tell them you're registered as many times as you want - they do not care," she said.

ACORN spokesman Kris Harsh said the group does not tolerate its workers paying people to sign the voter-registration cards.

ACORN's political wing has endorsed Barack Obama for president, but Ben LaBolt, a spokesman for the Obama campaign in Ohio, said ACORN has no role in its get-out-the-vote drive.

During the primary season, however, the Obama camp paid another group, Citizen Service Inc., $832,598 for various political services, according to Federal Elections Commission filings. That group and ACORN share the same board of directors.

In Wisconsin yesterday, John McCain blasted ACORN. "No one should be corrupting the most precious right we have, that is the right to vote," he said.

It's a right Johnson will exercise. "Yeah, I've registered enough - I might as well vote."
EU's internet of the future

I know many here check the fulfilledprophecy website, but I saw a new post there regarding what the EU has called the internet of the future. Thought I would post it for those that don't check the site. It seems they want everything to be interactive and from the language used there will be no more anonimoty. Interestingly enough they want it all to be interactive with RFID technology and want it globally governed! This should come as little to no surprise to those following Solana and his puppets, but here it is with the full on push from Sarkozy.

"Religion was an expression of human culture, she would explain, not its wellspring,"

The devil worshippers believe the wellspring is (in order of metaphysical depth):

"life"/libido/orgone/noosphere/"spirit realm"

These are all words that refer to the demonic pentecost.
anon 10:47,

you're right I shouldn't have watched that. I couldn't understand if she needed to go #2 or arise in O-Hi-O and give a tip to some one named Scales.

JB in CO

You make me laugh. I watched that video too. Wow, that woman looks like she's enjoying being onstage almost as much as Barack Obama!

Too bad about this, since she might actually have some very important information to relay.
Has Solana made a breakthrough with Russia:
More concerning Julie Meyer...
Why some people keep getting richer, no matter what happens to the rest of us...
"He waxed great towards the East . . . ????

"Council of the European Union: EU HR Javier SOLANA confirms the withdrawal of Russian forces from the zones adjacent to South Ossetia and Abkhazia
"Brussels, 10 October 2008
Friday 10 October 2008, by Emanuele G. - 29 letture
"Javier SOLANA, EU High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP), issued a statement today confirming that the European Union Monitoring Mission in Georgia has verified that Russian armed forces have dismantled 12 checkpoints and one military base in the zone adjacent to Abkhazia and five checkpoints and one signal post in the zone adjacent to South Ossetia:

“I am happy to announce that EUMM patrols have confirmed that Russian armed forces have completed their planned withdrawal from the areas adjacent to Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

"This withdrawal will, we hope, allow internally displaced people to return to their homes and contribute to the normalisation of living conditions in these areas.

"I further hope that the presence of EUMM monitors in these areas will decrease tensions, contribute to a sense of security and enhance respect for the rule of law.”,9101.html
I saw the ACORN scandal on TV this morning, but I am afraid that may be overshadowed by the Alaska report on Governor Sarah Palin, saying the Commission found her guilty of abuse of power contrary to Alaska law.

It should be noted for the record that there were POWERFUL forces in Alaska out to get her on any pretense because of the corruption she successfully fought in the past. You don't do that without making POWERFUL enemies willing to put the worst spin on anything!


Let's speculate a bit farther, could this be an even stronger catalyst for the eventual mark of the beast? Level the playing field, everyone, now we're all one currency and a clean slate...
Do you really believe that you can climb to the top without connections ? There are photographs of Palin'shusband making a sign o freemason
and another strange photo of her and her daughter crossing the legs while standing. I found them on the Cuttingedge but you must be allowed to see these articles. (25 dollars 1 year)

Palin is related to the Royal Family
If the State trooper had tasered a 12 year old African American the Governor would have been fired for having not fired him
This is defiitely the opportunity for the 1 world system, which maybe why years ago heads of Visa nd Master Card said they would be ready for the cashless sociey by 2012, they get an early run at it. No one climbs to the level of aristocracy without connections - no one.
Here is a thought - and a comparison I despise using but here goes; what if Obama was more of the John the Baptist type, making the way straight?
By the way, I watch the USGS earthquake map daily and compare with vocanic activity - it is intersting to me what transpires in conjunction with world events.


I believe many may be right here in the thought that many countries are working together toward a new system. Everyone should know by now that Pres. Bush just ended a meeting of the G-7 held at the white house. Whats not being said though is what was proposed within that meeting. The G-7 also incorporates many of the same countries that recently have called for new global economic institutions, as well as a couple that have called for a week long shut down of banks and trade markets. I don't know if this shut down will happen, but I personally am taking steps to prepare now just in case. I have to believe that in a meeting that only lasted 30 minutes, they had to come to a consensus over what should be done fairly quickly. This makes me think that they propably discussed options that have already been put on the table by members. A couple weeks worth of cash, food, and other neccesities might be a good idea to have at this point.

Dr North has found evidence that the EU has been planning this for some time. The EU, by the end of this crisis, may stand to control the nationalised credit of EU countries, which makes it extremely powerful and dangerous: i.e. to the point where not even the masses revolting in the streets like the Poll-Tax saga could dislodge the EU because the EU will simply cut the credit supply off to wayward countries. The EU would have the power to literally starve us into submission.
Is it just me or did Henry Paulson say he was working with "the powers that be, as well as NEW POWERS", in his speech yesterday ?
The whole thing sounded like an announcement that the New World Odor is upon us, which I already knew, but find it interesting that they seem to need to hide their identity less and less.
Here's hoping that Freemasons Bush, Paulson, Bernanke, Putin, Ahmadinejad and company can work together with Bilderbergers Brazinski, Kissinger, Reich, etc., as well as the tireless people at the World Bank, aka IMF, aka BIS, aka The Money Changers, who are all basically the same "merry crewe" anyways, to bring about their long awaited
moment in the sun. As if this weren't orchestrated from the top. Thank you Rothchild family, as well as all the other sworn enemies of God and his son Jesus Christ. This is your hour and the power of darkness.

Jesus said: "Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid..."

I don't think I've ever been so glad that I am a Christian.
The G-7 proposals will do the same for monetary policy as the WTO has done for international trade. Currently banks are afraid to loan to one another because they don't know how much CDS risk the other bank is carrying. They're also hoarding cash in case they need it for their own CDS risk - hence the credit freeze we keep hearing about. The Fed is trying to ease the credit freeze by guaranteeing interbank loans (each country's central bank will fulfill this role on a national level). Britain's government has proposed a mechanism by which the world's central banks will coordinate efforts to encourage lending between international banks. They've already been able to coordinate interest rate drops. Countries have already ceded their sovereignty over trade to the WTO and we will soon cede our sovereignty over monetary policy. Once this happens the hands of our government will be tied with respect to any future crisis.

Re: DouginMI comment at 9:21 a.m. about Obama possibly being a herald, it seems that is what Louis Farrakham was saying in the YouTube video at:, where he refers to Obama as a herald of a coming messiah. I think I saw a report that Obama was in Kenya in 1988 at the same time as meytreya was reportedly there. On another topic, what puzzles me is why some Christians seem to act as if our hope is in the political system. From what I observe, it seems that politics is either corrupt and/or corrupting, a form of idolatry. Also, I find it interesting that apparently the U.S. Constitution is a dead letter. However, it seems the ends justify the means, but then Jesus' trial was illegal too. Cannot the Creator of the Universe whom we claim to worship handle anyone of these men that we can get so concerned about? If not, it would not make much sense to worry then, would it?
"a simple fact: your brain can't lie."

could this be a means of deciding who gets to be a member of the club of 666 and who doesn't?


So much is happening, so fast, and we only see the surface features.... Looks like the "mother of all perfect storms" brewing.

Our faith will certainly be tested. Be prepared, stay vigilant, and for heaven's sake, keep looking up!

PS. There was some good news today, earliest snowfall in Boise's recorded history! global warming around the great NWst! SB
Is anyone here an old hippie?

I know, bad topic. Anyhow, I went to see "Mama Mia' about a month ago, and laughed till I cried at the sheer nonsense of it all. I often paint to Abba music because it makes me feel happy! Here's a beautiful slide show combining the Abba music Chiquitita (meaning 'my friends') with photos. I realize it's not Father Seraphim but if any of you find fault with this, tough doo-doo! It made me feel happy!

Personally, I think we all need a break from all this doom and gloom.

Young Grasshopper
GH - Love IT - And love you!!! Thank you!
Please forgive me if this has been discussed here college aged sons are obsessed with an internet film called "Zeitgeist" and now there is a second film out which reveals the people behind the film.
Does anyone have any other information on the "Venus Project"?
Anonymous 7:41

Looks like some sort of failed futuristic project. Its headquarters is for sale, so the people who created this futuristic compound must have gotten tired of living in the most remote and isolated part of Florida's interior with the gators, snakes, bugs and incessant heat. I live about an hour and a half away on the coast and believe me, no one (scientist or not) in their right mind would set up house there unless they are either seeking absolute privacy or are nuts.

Check out the shack that represents Venus, FL, on Google earth. Not much of a future paradise if you ask me.

Mary;Thanks! Love you,too;0)
YG Right on!

Last night I turned off the computer and TV and turned my thoughts to an early snowfall in the mountains. I broke out my old "Best of Jackson Browne" CD, kicked back and enjoyed an ice cold Fat Tire Ale. (That was after I read the scriptural passages Sarah noted, mowed the lawn for the last time, collected a dozen eggs from my fat and happy chickens, harvested the last of my corn, counted my .300 mag shells, and checked the winter wood supply for the upteenth time.)

God is good. He told us the end right from the start. The wheat will be separated from the chaff soon enough. Even so, hard to believe we are so close. I'm not a pre-tribber, but boy, am I looking up, hoping I'm mistaken about that.
Anon 7:41,

From what I have seen around, Zeitgeist was made by someone claiming that disasters and a major financial restructuring were about to happen. It was a promise of shelter more than anything, but from what I understood there was a $500k buy in. Which is propably why Hopper found their facility in Venus closed. From all I have seen on it, it appears to be someone who had read a few new age books saw the economic landscape and tried to cash in. The film and movement are very negative on all things government. They are also negative regarding anyone with any semblence of wealth, or any religous affiliation. Have you actually seen the film or read any of the literature?


I know from your comments on the Obama citizenship lawsuit that you don't think it has much , if any , merit.

For what it's worth here's a video clip of the lawyer who filed it explaining the lawsuit.

I think he does make a rather compelling argument.

Here's the link:

It is at least worth watching in my opinion.

"Even so, hard to believe we are so close."

Chuckling as I read that. I'm just finishing up breakfast and going out to stack what I think will be the last woodpile ever.

I'll be looking over my pasture while doing it, and be comforting myself in prayer as I work at it.

The facts as they unfold are so clear that I try to keep a good perspective by keeping ever closer to the One who is behind them.

I'd like to share an often repeated remark my pastor would make, "It is never the degree of difficulty we face, it is the extent of provision we posess that really matters". That quote combined with many a verse of scripture that support it has kept my heart stable in these most astonishing times.

When I count my rounds I've taken up the habit of associating them with blessings in Grace that we have. The only downside I've encountered is that my numbered "shiney stones" don't quite stack up to the infinite number of blessings, which in itself has a comforting aspect, not to mention you don't have to keep the blessings dry.

One thing for sure is that we will never have the opportunity to serve the One who has givin us life eternal, in as important a capacity as we are privileged to serve Him at this point in space/time history. My we all be found faithful servents, tired, weary, yes however we none the less press towards the mark.

Thanks for sharing your day.

Here is the rest of the information related to the “International Year of Astronomy” (IYA2009). Keep in mind, that IYA2009 is an initiative of the International Astronomical Union (IAU) and UNESCO.

The International Year of Astronomy 2009 is supported by eleven Cornerstone Projects.
While searching for additional information about one of the “Cornerstone Projects” called, ‘The Portal To The Universe’, I found another website which featured an announcement for IYA2009, as well as a prominent listing for ‘The Portal To The Universe’ (the Cornerstone Project ‘Portal To The Universe website is not yet on-line for viewing) The website I was directed to is called “Cosmos Portal”.
“The Cosmos Portal is working in concert with the “IAU Portal to the Universe” project to provide authoritative and trustworthy information about astronomy and space science, combining scientific review with the power of Web-based collaboration.”

The “Cosmos Portal” is accessed through another website called “Digital Universe”. Both are “Empowered By MANYONE”

“MANYONE is building the Public Internet Media System — a service that empowers non-profits, companies, agencies and individuals to build and operate financially self-sustaining community and web portals.” The company is backed by a wide array of investors. One I was able to specifically identify is The Robert G. Hemingway Foundation.

Explore the MANYONE site and take note of, in particular, THE FOUNDATION and its Board

Besides Paul Hawken, Maurice Strong, and Jayne Goodall is
Ann Druyan : Founder and CEO of Cosmos Studio, wife of the late Carl Sagan, 2004 winner of the “prestigious” Richard Dawkins award.

Druyan’s thoughts on science, religion etc.:

ASHOK KHOSLA –Club of Rome, World Conservation Union and the International Institute for Sustainable Development - and served as an adviser to, among others, the World Bank, the United Nations Development Programme and the Indian government.

The home page for “PRINCIPAL Voices" opens up another can o’ worms.

The Human Rights Encyclopedia is a component of the online Human Rights Portal of the Human Experience Coalition, collaborating with the Digital Universe Foundation and ManyOne Networks. It will work in conjunction with two other elements intending to provide human rights organizations with a common and interconnected, internet-based communication platform for finding authoritative information, information sharing, recruiting, and activism.

Here are a few additional media write-ups about Digital Universe

Improving on Wikipedia? Tuesday, May. 15, 2007 By PETA OWENS- Liston

Lawrence Lessig joined the Advisory Board in March 2006. (Founder Creative Commons, Stanford Law Professor, Founder Stanford Center for Internet and Society, He has had a hand in many projects related to the “Wikimedia” empire and has keynoted events with Jimmy Wales. He’s also a huge Obama supporter. He has a blog where you read and hear more.

Joe Firmage, Bernie Haisch, and Larry Sanger are the founders of the Digital Universe. Larry Sanger was the co-founder of Wikipedia with Jimmy Wales. Bernie Haisch is a astrophysicist and is listed as a “luminary link” on the Institute of Noetic Sciences website.

The Digital Universe is described as, “a next generation multimedia Internet medium.”
Digital Universe is in partnership with MANYONE NETWORKS.
ManyOne Networks is guided by the Earth Charter


HK-91 - You and Oldmanoftheski have given me new insight into
multi-tasking. Counting the rounds and the blessings at the same time. Love it. The lawn is mowed, the firewood is stacked, but a coyote got the last of our chickens months ago. -Rudi
Hi Constance, Dorothy and everyone,

Just returned from vacation. Missed everyone here.

Constance, from all the data I have seen, it appears that Obama was born in Hawaii.

I think the confusion regarding Obama's birth place arises from the fact that Obama's mother traveled around a lot AFTER Obama's father returned to Kenya ALONE upon graduating from Harvard.



Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro (November 29, 1942 - November 7, 1995), known as Ann Dunham and Stanley Ann Dunham [pictured] , was an American anthropologist, left-wing social activist, and the mother of Senator Barack Obama.

She was born in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, to Stanley and Madelyn Dunham. Her father (who gave his only child his name) was a furniture salesman in downtown Seattle, Washington, and her mother worked for a bank. After a year living in Seattle, her family moved to Mercer Island, Washington, in 1956 so that 13-year old Ann could attend the Mercer Island High School that had just opened. At the school she was on the debate team and graduated in 1960.

Her family moved to Hawaii and Ann attended the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where she studied anthropology. When Ann Dunham arrived in Hawaii, she was a full fledged radical leftist and practitioner of "critical theory".

She also began to engage in miscegenation (inter-racial relaionships) as part of her attack on society. Susan Blake, one of her friends has stated she never dated "the crew-cut white boys," She had a world view, even as a young girl. It was embracing the different, rather than that ethnocentric thing of shunning the different. That was where her mind took her. In Hawaii she met Barack Obama, Sr. from Kenya in her Russian language class.

Barack Obama, Jr. was born August 4, 1961. Barack Obama, Sr. left Ann and their son in 1963 to attend Harvard in Boston. Press reports claim Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. were divorced around this time; however, no evidence has yet been presented to show they were ever married. The senior Obama obtained a masters degree in economics at Harvard and returned to Kenya in 1965 where he obtained a position in the Kenyan government. He was killed in an automobile accident in 1982.

Two years later, when her son was five, Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian oil manager and practicing Muslim whom she meet at the university. In 1967 they moved to Jakarta, Indonesia. While in Indonesia Ann got a job at the American embassy teaching English. Barack's half-sister, Maya Soetoro was born in Indonesia.

Ann, Obama and his sister Maya moved back to Hawaii. Ann Dunham soon returned to Indonesia with Maya but divorced Soetoro in the late 1970s. Dunham traveled around the world, pursuing a career in rural development that took her to her Ghana, India, Thailand, Indonesia, Nepal and Bangladesh.

In 1986 Ann Dunham worked on a developmental project in Pakistan. Later that year Ann and her daughter traveled the Silk Road in China. In 1992 she earned a Ph.D. in anthropology from the University of Hawaii. Her dissertation, "Peasant blacksmithing in Indonesia: Surviving and Thriving Against All Odds," was 1067 pages long. She worked for the Ford Foundation and promoted Microlending.

During Obama's campaign for the 2008 presidential election he portrayed his mother as a conservative girl from Kansas; however in reality she was a radical leftist and cultural Marxist. She lived in the Seattle area; spending her teenage years in Seattle's coffee shops with other young radical leftists. Obama claims his mother's family were conservative Methodists or Baptists from Kansas. However his mother's parents were members of a left-wing Unitarian church near Seattle. The church located in Bellevue, Washington was knick named "the little red church," because of it's communist leanings.
The school Ann attended, Mercer Island High School, was a hotbed of pro-Marxist radical teachers. John Stenhouse, board member, told the House Un-American Activities Subcommittee that he had been a member of the Communist Party USA and this school has a number of Marxists on it's staff. Two teachers at this school, Val Foubert and Jim Wichterman, both Frankfurt School style Marxists, taught a critical theory curriculum to students which included: rejection of societal norms, attacks on Christianity, the traditional family, and assigned readings by Karl Marx. The hallway between Foubert's and Wichterman classrooms was sometimes called "anarchy ally."

Dunham has been described by her friends as "a fellow traveler..." meaning a communist sympathizer. entire article.......
HK-91, oldmanoftheski, and anyone else,

Contrarians all, aren't we, those that cling to the old rugged Cross and He who hung on it :)

My husband and I were discussing the events of the world, and when I described us as the Bible-believing, Constitution-holding, 2nd Amendment backed, homeschooling, independently-thinking heterosexual, married, property-owning, middle-class Christian, he laughed and said "I don't think I have ever been described so succinctly and been what the world and government hates at the same time!"

More and more I am amazed at the Lord's leading, at this particular time, teaching the historical and oh-so-relevant nature of the Constitution is not to be missed, and bringing forth the examples and absolute truth and literalness of God's Word, well, this is an incredible experience!

Discovering Constance's website and blog and the intelligent conversation here with you good folks has been another blessing of discovering, as Elijah was told by God, "Yet I have reserved seven thousand in Israel, all whose knees have not bowed to Baal, and every mouth that has not kissed him.” 1Kings 19:18

We are truly blessed.

To all:

Has anyone noticed how little the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. is mentioned by the Obama camp?

I thought that this was a rather odd omission and that it might behove me to do a little digging to see if I could learn why.

Here is what I found at various websites including that of the National Black Republican Association.


By Frances Rice

It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: Slavery, Secession, Segregation and now Socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860's, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950's and 1960's.

During the civil rights era of the 1960's, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman's issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was President Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.

Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Senator Al Gore, Sr. And after he became president, John F. Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Attorney General Robert Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.

In March of 1968, while referring to Dr. King's leaving Memphis, Tennessee after riots broke out where a teenager was killed, Democrat Senator Robert Byrd, a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, called Dr. King a "trouble-maker" who starts trouble, but runs like a coward after trouble is ignited. A few weeks later, Dr. King returned to Memphis and was assassinated on April 4, 1968.

Given the circumstances of that era, it is understandable why Dr. King was a Republican. It was the Republicans who fought to free blacks from slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Republicans passed the civil rights laws of the 1860's, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Reconstruction Act of 1867 that was designed to establish a new government system in the Democrat-controlled South, one that was fair to blacks. Republicans also started the NAACP and affirmative action with Republican President Richard Nixon‘s 1969 Philadelphia Plan (crafted by black Republican Art Fletcher) that set the nation‘s first goals and timetables. Although affirmative action now has been turned by the Democrats into an unfair quota system, affirmative action was begun by Nixon to counter the harm caused to blacks when Democrat President Woodrow Wilson in 1912 kicked all of the blacks out of federal government jobs.

Few black Americans know that it was Republicans who founded the Historically Black Colleges and Universities. Unknown also is the fact that Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois was key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964 and 1965. Not mentioned in recent media stories about extension of the 1965 Voting Rights Act is the fact that Dirksen wrote the language for the bill. Dirksen also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing. President Lyndon Johnson could not have achieved passage of civil rights legislation without the support of Republicans.

Critics of Republican Senator Barry Goldwater who ran for president against Democrat President Lyndon Johnson in 1964, ignore the fact that Goldwater wanted to force the Democrats in the South to stop passing discriminatory laws and thus end the need to continuously enact federal civil rights legislation.

Those who wrongly criticize Goldwater, also ignore the fact that President Johnson, in his 4,500 State of the Union Address delivered on January 4, 1965, mentioned scores of topics for federal action, but only thirty five words were devoted to civil rights. He did not mention one word about voting rights. Then in 1967, showing his anger with Dr. King's protest against the Viet Nam War, President Johnson referred to Dr. King as "that Nigger preacher."

Contrary to the false assertions by Democrats, the racist "Dixiecrats" did not all migrate to the Republican Party. "Dixiecrats" declared that they would rather vote for a "yellow dog" than vote for a Republican because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks. Today, some of those "Dixiecrats" continue their political careers as Democrats, including Democrat Senator Robert Byrd who is well known for having been a "Keagle" in the Ku Klux Klan.

Another former "Dixiecrat" is Democrat Senator Ernest Hollings who put up the Confederate flag over the state capitol when he was the governor of South Carolina. There was no public outcry when Democrat Senator Christopher Dodd praised Senator Byrd as someone who would have been "a great senator for any moment," including the Civil War. Democrats denounced Senator Trent Lott for his remarks about Senator Strom Thurmond. Senator Thurmond was never in the Ku Klux Klan and defended blacks against lynching and the discriminatory poll taxes imposed on blacks by Democrats. If Senator Byrd and Senator Thurmond were alive during the Civil War, and Byrd had his way, Thurmond would have been lynched.

The thirty-year odyssey of the South switching to the Republican Party began in the 1970's with President Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy" which was an effort on the Part of Nixon to get Christians in the South to stop voting for Democrats who did not share their values and were still discriminating against their fellow Christians who happened to be black. Georgia did not switch until 2002, and some Southern states, including Louisiana, are still controlled by Democrats.

Today, Democrats, in pursuit of their socialist agenda, are fighting to keep blacks poor, angry and voting for Democrats. Examples of how egregiously Democrats act to keep blacks in poverty are numerous.

After wrongly convincing black Americans that a minimum wage increase was a good thing, the Democrats on August 3rd kept their promise and killed the minimum wage bill passed by House Republicans on July 29th. The blockage of the minimum wage bill was the second time in as many years that Democrats stuck a legislative finger in the eye of black Americans. Senate Democrats on April 1, 2004 blocked passage of a bill to renew the 1996 welfare reform law that was pushed by Republicans and vetoed twice by President Bill Clinton before he finally signed it. Since the welfare reform law expired in September 2002, Congress had passed six extensions, and the latest expired on June 30, 2004. Opposed by the Democrats are school choice opportunity scholarships that would help black children get out of failing schools and Social Security reform, even though blacks on average lose $10,000 in the current system because of a shorter life expectancy than whites (72.2 years for blacks vs. 77.5 years for whites).

Democrats have been running our inner-cities for the past 30-40 years, and blacks are still complaining about the same problems. Over $7 trillion dollars have been spent on poverty programs since President Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty with little, if any, impact on poverty. Diabolically, every election cycle, Democrats blame Republicans for the deplorable conditions in the inner-cities, then incite blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicans.

In order to break the Democrats' stranglehold on the black vote and free black Americans from the Democrat Party's economic plantation, we must shed the light of truth on the Democrats. We must demonstrate that the Democrat Party policies of socialism and dependency on government handouts offer the pathway to poverty, while Republican Party principles of hard work, personal responsibility, getting a good education and ownership of homes and small businesses offer the pathway to prosperity.

The story also appears at Human Events

More on Black Republicans:


Needless to say, the radical liberals are having a colossal hissy fit over the failure of their historical "revisionism by omission" regarding the fact of the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. being a Republican!

As a result of similar historical revisions and propaganda, it isn't often that anyone has the chance to learn about the values and points of view of conservative African American Republicans - values which are very similar to our own.

I would even dare to suggest that for the most part it is assumed that there isn't even such a thing as an "African American Republican."

As for me, I have said it before and I will say it again. My intense dislike for the idea of Senator Obama as President of the United States is NOT about the color of Senator Obama's skin. It is about the color of Senator Obama's RED TO THE CORE socialist politics.....the kind of politics that would dare to deny the very existence of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and ultimately sell African Americans down the river if it served the cause of world socialism!

At the end of the day, socialism - of whatever racial or ethnic flavor, and in spite of all of its bogus "messianic" promises - is not about the economic or social elevation of one's fellow men.

It is about envy and hatred.... and about dragging everyone down to one dead level of social mediocrity and economic misery where everyone is socially or economically "on the dole" and beholden to a power elite that rarely if ever lives by the rules it imposes on everyone else. ( i.e. "limousine liberals")

October 09, 2008
Thanks, Google! Now Perhaps Barack Can Explain His New Party Membership

Search engine giant Google rolled back the clock to their oldest available index today to celebrate their tenth anniversary, and guess what I found?

In the New Party's March 1996 Update.

Winning in Wisconsin

The New Party continues to roll through Wisconsin, with victories this month in municipal and county primaries in Milwaukee and Madison. Progressive Milwaukee is backing three county board, one city council, and one school board candidate. Progressive Dane (Madison) is endorsing nine county board candidates. All NP-backed candidates won their primaries.

Chicago Campaigns

The Illinois New Party is working intensively on Willie Delgado's state representative campaign. Delgado is part of an emerging Latino network in Chicago. We're also backing Danny Davis in a Congressional race, Barack Obama for state representative, and judicial candidate Patricia Martin. In addition to the electoral work, the NP in Chicago is supporting a local living wage campaign and an effort to prevent the placement of a waste site on the West Side.

And then there is the October 1996 New Party Update:

New Party members are busy knocking on doors, hammering down lawn signs, and phoning voters to support NP candidates this fall. Here are some of our key races:

Arkansas: The Little Rock New Party has a full slate of candidates up for election in November. LRNP steering committee member Michael Booker is running unopposed for re-election to the Arkansas State House. Two NP members - Paul Kelly and Genevieve Stewart - are running for at-large (city-wide) city council positions. And in a head-to-head battle between the New Party and the conservative right, NP member Jayne Cia faces the Arkansas state chair of Empower America (Jack Kemp and Bill Bennett's organization) for a Justice of the Peace (county board) position.

Illinois: Three NP-members won Democratic primaries last Spring and face off against Republican opponents on election day: Danny Davis (U.S. House), Barack Obama (State Senate) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary).

In the Populist:

New Party members and supported candidates won 16 of 23 races, including an at-large race for the Little Rock, Ark., City Council, a seat on the county board for Little Rock and the school board for Prince George's County, Md. Chicago is sending the first New Party member to Congress, as Danny Davis, who ran as a Democrat, won an overwhelming 85% victory. New Party member Barack Obama was uncontested for a State Senate seat from Chicago.

And from The Columbus Free Press, the reprinting of a New Party press release:

Illinois: The first NP member heads to Congress, as Danny Davis wins an overwhelming 85% victory yesterday (he got a higher percentage of the vote in that district than the President). NP member and State Senate candidate Barack Obama won uncontested. Interestingly, it appears that the local Democratic machine is trying to distance itself from our folks. At a "Democratic Unity" march on Chicago's West Side, a flyer invited community members to join with a host of local democratic candidates. The only two west-side Democrats not listed: NP members Danny Davis (U.S. House candidate) and Michael Chandler (Alderman and Ward Committeeman).

It is now well documented that Barack Obama ran for office and won uncontested as a New Party candidate, but what is the New Party?

In 1996, for all intents and purposes, "ACORN and the New Party were essentially the same body."

That would be the same ACORN that Barack Obama has close ties to today, the same ACORN that Barack Obama funneled $800,000 to this year, and which is under investigation in at least a dozen states for voter registration fraud.

Is it too much to ask of "real" journalists to ask the campaign why Barack Obama ran as the candidate to the left of even the most radical left-wing of the Democratic Party, and has since tried to downplay that radical association?
Sent to me by J.

American Thinker who someone on this blog referred me to has articles at an academic level. There are many showing the negative side of Obama's life.

There is a good indication that he didn't even write his first book and that Ayers did.

Since the early '80s when I looked at Carter's lack of credentials, I've suspected that the one worlders have had a stable of potential candidates that they could promote into high office in the US through the use of the media. These individuals are mentored through the system in order to get some credentials, but in reality are weak.

In a world of competent, intelligent, well networked individuals, it is so strange that those elected to the office of the president are charismatic non-entities.

The article on Obama's mother and her background can show how Obama was called to their attention.

Warning not for kids or sensitive eyes
From J
From Drudge
Pic of Obama with his New Party Socialist buddies

Winning won't change that mentality.








I can only speak for myself, but I, for one, would like to hear a lot more from African American Republicans.

If you wonder why Obama is like cotton candy, sweet and full of hot air, here's why. After you eat the candy, all you are left with is a dirty stick.

Obama does it the Chicago way. That means using millions of dollars in tax money to create the illusion that something good is happening when it isn't. The last I read Obama has 700 people on his campaign staff. How many are spinning out the worthless cotton candy and other are using the David Axelrod dirty tricks approach. Between the two, realism is dead and Obama seems untouchable.

Susanna, the statistics show 95% of the black community is in Obama's camp. My guess is that they see the presidency as some sort of affirmative action goodie that they they are entitled to after so many years. Logic goes out the window.


I hear what you are saying, and I am not saying that you are wrong ( we can only report on what we have seen and heard, after all ) but how can we be certain that the statistics are accurate and not just more propaganda being peddled with a view to demoralizing conservative African Americans and making them feel like the proverbial "skunk at a lawn party" just because they happen to be Republicans?

Similar to the way conservative Republicans are made to feel here in Massachusetts, by the way.

But assuming that you are correct, and conservative African American Republicans represent only 5% of the voting African American community, I would still want to hear what they have to say and would also want to do what I could to give them as much visibility as possible.

I am sure that as a conservative Catholic voter I am probably in the minority, but I am not in the habit of voting for "Catholic" political candidates who support moral relativism and world socialism.

Ergo, it has been an uplifting experience to learn about conservative African Americans who do not vote for African American political candidates who likewise support moral relativism and world socialism.

African Americans who have worked hard to realize the "American Dream" don't want their hard-earned money stolen from them by "looters" - vis a vis confiscatory taxes - any more than any other hard-working American - including me and my family.
Conservatives across the board are generally saying the same thing, no matter what other label is attached to their person. Skin color doesn't affect IQ and there are as many intelligent blacks as there are whites proportionately.

Undoubtedly many in that community understand even better than we can what is going on with Obama. They know who is scamming them.

The problem is that it's a minority solidarity thing. Minorities tend to stick together in the face of what they see is a majority population. Jews do it. Mexicans do it. Puerto Ricans do it. Cubans do it. In a contest between community solidarity and idealist values, many find it a hard choice to make and will go in the direction of solidarity. Sticking to ideals is a solitary thing while solidarity brings emotional support from family and friends. It is very difficult to be a minority inside of a minority when heart says one thing and brains say another.

These days I don't know what are the core beliefs, if any, of the black community in any neutral way. All we get is spin from one representing group or another. I don't assume any individual is such and such. One never can tell.

From what I've seen any conservative is welcome in the conservative community. I have to tell you though there were many well-meaning pro-lifers who were so excited and happy to see someone Jewish marching in a pro-life parade that their comments really made me feel like an outsider. Human's a funny thing.


Speaking of "skunks at a lawn party," check this out. It was on Drudge. It speaks volumes!

You bring up an interesting point. I wonder why (at least here in Oklahoma) we haven't heard from JC Watts.

Part of the reason I believe is no one in the Media is interviewing them. They don't fit into the agenda. Look at what happened to Alan Keyes.

I read something somewhere (and you may have been the one who sent it to me) How little Obama mentions Martin Luther King. That the reason for this is because King was a Republican.
PROMIS Breaks Stock Market??

Did a purloined case management software package play a significant role in the global financial meltdown?

The US government has been engaged in a lawsuit over a piece of software it 'stole' from the developer, and which 'may have' enabled Osama Bin Laden to have 'inside information' about US activity, especially training exercises scheduled for September 11, 2001.

In a twisted tale of lies and coverups, the software originally developed to allow US state and federal prosecutors to exchange information accross local systems based on a wide assortment of computer languages, was reportedly stolen, modifed and sold widely to many countries and corporations, (including Lougheed Corp, which boasts Dick Cheney's wife on it's B of D.)

There are claims in suits before the courts that the program found it's way to Russia who supplied it to Bin Laden.

If true, this would explain how it was possible to attack the WTC towers at the exact same time an identical war games simulation was being executed causing a complete incapacitation of the defensive capabilities of the USA. And how an identiacl 'co-incidence' occurred in England with the Subway Bombings.

A further use was made of PROMIS to monitor stock trading in real time. A suggestion that it could also be used to act upon stock market activity by initiating trades in response to observed activity raises this question....

Were there corporations and governments, relying on PROMIS to 'manage' the market that effectively CAUSED the collapse?

Is there a potential to place the complete control of the economic affairs of the global community under the direction of a database management mega-processor?
Remember the distributed processing pioneered by Google, and the new Super Internet "GRID" developed for the Hadron Collider project. It is not uneasonable to this writer to think such a thing desirable to some and a possibility if not already a reality.

A critical treatment nof the topic is found here,

a google search for PROMIS will yeild a world of intrigue

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