Thursday, August 18, 2005

Is the old 'Cold War' reheating?

Russia and China in joint war games -- Where is the EU?

I have been involved in a very intense case that continues. 'War Games' are probably familiar turf for any trial and/or family lawyer. I am both. This morning I saw a headline that looked right out of the 1950's:

"Russia, China in first joint war games"

For those of you wishing to read the article, the link may be reached by clicking on the top headline of this blog. The headline is from a Mideast Source, Aljazeera, This is starting to sound like practice games for Armageddon in a more literal than figurative sense of the word.

According to the Aljazeera news service report, this joint exercise is called "Peace Mission 2005." The main target is the United States.

China has been prospering in no small part with USA dollars. The EU has, as I have noted in several past blogs searchable on my archives on this blogspot, has been actively considering lifting its ban against selling weaponry to China. Now it appears that Russia, long time at odds with its far eastern ideological counterpart, is trying to make money by selling weaponry to China as well.

I think it is a real and horrible possibility that the European Union is handing power to Javier Solana to equalize itself with the United States. There is an interesting passage in the biblical Book of Revelation. It concerns the destruction of a powerful global Babylon. Those at sea bewail her destruction, whatever and whoever "she" is. They say in effect, "now who's going to buy our merchandise?"

The EU's Javier Solana has long said that "the plan is to use NATO assets with European control of those assets." A powerful Solana predecessor and mentor, Jacques Santer has long called for the EU to dislodge the USA as a competing superpower in the 'coming struggle for global resources in the 21st Century.'

If we are taking as true the prophesied biblical timeline of 3 1/2 years for the reign of the global despot commonly called by Christians the anti-Christ who is also the prophesied figure of Daniel who breaks a reconfirmed seven year treaty with Israel halfway through its term, a possibility is that China may not particularly like having its best market for its merchandise interfered with. If this is the case, a possible fulfillment of the Revelation Armageddon/Megiddo passage of the beast and his armies fighting an army of 200 million men suddenly seems much more plausible.

Speaking of that part of the world, Javier Solana and allies, including James Wolfensohn have been very busy removing nearly 40 year old Jewish settlements from a part of Israel known to all as the Gaza Strip. The EU's Solana has been recently busy preparing Iraq for European hegemony via its judicial and law administration systems. It appears that Iran is busy setting up potential nuclear devices and having shot our wad on Iraq's phantom non-existent 'weapons of mass destruction' weaponry, there is little we can actually do to stop it.

There is an interesting Isaiah prophecy concerning this Babylon, whoever and whatever she is. I personally believe that a city in Iraq is NOT the fulfillment -- it is more likely a global superpower. It goes like this: "I will stir up the Medes against them who regard not silver and as for gold, they delight not in it."

So many times in ancient biblical days, the accounts are that God used alien, hostile nations to resurrect the basic truth that our only security is in Him. There are also passages that all written must be fulfilled. If one or both of these are going down, I am not prepared to say. It looks remarkably similar on so many fronts now that things are, as the New Agers might say, "harmonically converging." It even looks like their New Age prophesied "Maitreya," could be in New Age vernacular, "emerging."

Jesus compared end time events to "birth pangs." What characterizes such? They come closer together with increasing and deepening intensity. There have been times that looked like such before, i.e. World War I, World War II. New Agers such as Marilyn Ferguson have long since written of their planned global agendas that what distinguishes this time from past non-successful times is that global communications have encircled the globe beyond any possibility of retreat. She may be right.

I don't know if this is the time or not, but I do know this. If God is ready, we'd better be. The sky is clouding and it's starting to rain. It's time to get our spiritual houses in order and by the grace of God, "climb on that ark." As the tsunami disaster that ushered in 2005 attests, destruction can come speedily.

That time may well be here. I personally pray I am ready.

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I suspect EU's Solana have agreement with China and Russia, to give them economic benefit, in return Russia and China will support Solana's New World Order.

But this international order will collapse, we read in Daniel, that the beast will have problem from the North(Russia?) and East (China, East Asia?) Both China and EU are competing for oil and gas supply from the Middle East. EU is also dependent on Russia for oil and gas. This conflict may arise out of energy crisis.

Daniel 11:44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

Daniel 11:44 seems to say the conflict is between EU and her North and East power. USA seems to be removed from the picture.
Greeting all;

The Medes(Russia)is preparing the kings of the East(China and all nations east of the euphrates river)for battle against the west(EU).
The EU has to drop to 10 nations. The eastern european nation will one day go back to Russia. We are witnessing it with the rejection on the EU constitution(1 reason is the Easterners EU taking Westeners EU jobs.

Where is the USA in all of this. the bible isn't clear, but the USA will have to take a side.

The Eu and the Medes the two powers before the coming of the Lord will compete for the rulership of the earth.

Read Revelation 16 and 9

Revelation 16:12
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.

Revelation 9
1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.

13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,

14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Peace in the Name of The Great God Jesus

Ozell, Thanks for your comments -- we all "see through glass darkly" so to speak for the present and certainly time and events will tell; HOWEVER, it appears to me that the ten nations are the Western European Union which is a ten nation federation. They handed Javier Solana their power on November 20 1999. He has had it unbroken ever since and has gone from power to power. If you would like my CD on this, email me a mailing address where I can send it to So far there is no charge and you may copy the PowerPoint Show presentation on the disk freely for others.
Welcome back Constance, good to see you here again. Am lifting you in prayer. American Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told Arab leaders on Thursday that the United States will pressure Israel to conduct further expulsions. She told the New York Times she "empathizes" with the pain of Israelis but "it cannot be Gaza only." Palestinian Authority (PA) national security advisor Jibril Rajoub told a London-based Arab newspaper that Rice assured him Israel will make further concessions.

[israelreporter editor's note: On the very day of the State of Israel's greatest pain, we have the Hamas gang promising renewed terrorism "after December 31" (see earlier post) and the U.S. Secretary of State Rice promising the arab world that Israel will continue to rip its nation apart, destroy the lives of tens of thousands of law-abiding citizens, empower terrorist leaders, and relinquish strategic assets unilaterally.]

"...Around this church site Orthodox faithful have gathered for centuries on the feast of the Holy Trinity, and together with them Roman Catholics and Muslims, bearing the cross of St. Jovan Vladimir and a stone each for the return and restoration of the church.

The destruction of this chapel of the Holy Trinity at the request of Muslim deputies and in the immediate vicinity of Kosovo and Metohija where local terrorists who are unfortunately compatriots of this deputy have destroyed 150 Orthodox churches and monasteries in the past six years will have far-reaching consequences for peace and order in Montenegro...."

Does anyone else see a pattern that involves Javier Solana's hand?
Constance, what do you mean "I pray I am ready" ? What is one supposed to do to get "ready"? Store MRE's and water? Build a nuclear fallout shelter? Become a hermit? Please explain what you mean.
Ozell, you said:

"Where is the USA in all of this. the bible isn't clear, but the USA will have to take a side."

Of all the revelations of creatures representing certain empires, the only ones the scriptures identifies by name is the two horned ram (Media-Persia) and the one horned goat (Greece). These are mentioned in Daniel. In another of Daniels visions, it appears Media-Persia is cast as a different beast - a bear, and Greece as a leopard, but they are not named. The winged lion is left to the reader to identify. But that is obviously a prominent symbol of ancient Babylon. The 'dreadful and terrible' beast was only called "the fourth kingdom" but not otherwise identified except by it's characteristics, such as it's "great iron teeth". Most understand it to be the Roman Empire. The specific identity of the 7-headed beast of the end time is, likewise, a matter of evaluation of the characteristics described within the context.
Every one of these creatures represents the great empire powers that have direct interaction with Israel during the centuries. There is one more creature, depicted as a woman. Her identity also requires evaluation of the characteristics given by the Revelation. It is interesting that of all the empire/creatures in the prophecies, the one covered at the greatest length and with the most detail, by far, is the woman, "the great whore". In fact, John said he "wondered with great admiration" when he saw her. You might not identify her from any one, single characteristic detail. It is the net evaluation of the many characteristics and clues that finally drives home what or who this 'MOTHER OF HARLOTS' is.
It is found in Revelation 17 & 18.

James 1:5
"If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him."

Pray for wisdom. Make a list of the characteristic details. Pray more for wisdom. Look to see what is the best fit of that set of characteristics. Pray more for wisdom. What you discover may change not just your understanding of the prophecies, but of God, of yourself, and of everything.

Revelation 1:3
"Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."
The only real preparation can be summed up by "Get ready to meet thy Maker." All else is illusory!
to be ready for the last days is is to be ready to meet Jesus soon.
In my opinion the difference is for post-trib, mid-trib views they will expect to meet Jesus through death and persecution. But for pre-trib view, they will meet Jesus suddenly, in their daily routine of life.

I think God could have choose to show us clearly how the last days will unfold in the bible, He could have list down in the bible, in point form, even with dates, on what will happen, then it will end all dispute and debate among Christians. But I think He make it not so clear for two purposes,

1. So that we can read and study the scriptures diligently to find out the truth, it is like sorting out a big jigsaw puzzle.

2 To test us, whether we are gracious to each other's different views, and be kind to one another.

A pre-triber
No matter how it comes down, you trust God. He's got the BIG PICTURE, we've got the little picture. No matter how it comes down -- pre-trib, mid-trip, post-trib, it was in His perfect will!

I do believe that a false dichotomony has been drawn between pre-trib and Post-Millennial -- the could well be two sides of the same coin: Under the first scenario, we go directly from our modern conveniences, microwave ovens, fax machines, etc to Gloryland. We face no persecution, no tribulation; Under the Post-Millennial (Dominion Theology scenario, we increase in power and glory until we own all the earthly mansions, latest gadgets, etc., etc.) THESE ARE TWO SIDES TO THE VERY SAME COIN -- Neither side is prepared in the least for prophesied persecution and the clear reading of Daniel 7 where it was prophesied that "the beast" would "wear out the saints of the most high" and that this would last 3 1/2 years.

The scriptures clearly warn that many will fall away and betray one another and you will be hated of all men for my (Jesus') name's sake. Maybe those doing the betraying are those who feel that the whole thing is now baloney because events did not match their pre-trib or post-millennial expectations. One of the strongest warnings in Scripture is found in II Thessalonians, Chapter 2. It warns against deception in end time events and says, LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU, for the gathering together (rapture) will not take place except the falling away (Apostasy) happen first AND THE MAN OF PERDITION BE REVEALED.

I have been watching and documenting clear apostasy since 1981 and it was going on well before I started observation. It is intensifying, especially as the Environmental Movement and Agenda 21 issues permeate the Church, moving it ever so slowly but surely toward earth worship.

As I have said before, may the Lord help us all. I am rooting for the pre-tribbers, but I am preparing for the persecution.
Constance, you are so right and so filled with true Revelation from the Holy Spirit. I beleive that the Lord has prepared a people, such as you, Herb Peters and others to warn the church about the apostasy within and about the reality of the persecution and tribulation. For the blogger who wants to know how to prepare: first prepare spiritually by giving up on the worldly system of false prosperity and start seeking God earnestly and constantly (not only in spare time). As for physical preparation, yes, stock up on food water and get self sufficient, get out of dept, be willing to live with a lot less, especially if you have young children. I can see myself dying for Christ because I know that the Word prophesies that we may have to. But, I have a hard time just sitting around waiting for it to happen because I have the urge to take care of my chidren. Therefore, I started preparing physically about 5 years ago. This means in a few months, I will be able to live without working but still feed my family and have a comfortable place to live, albeit without the modern gadgets, for about 12 years. Jesus said "watch so that you won't be caught unaware!" Maranata!
We certainly seem to identify persecution through a 1st world, american-centric viewpoint. Christians in the rest of the world have certainly been going through persecution for a long time, see: Dafar, Rwanda, Russia, etc.

As to USA in the Bible, the book of Daniel chapter 7 refers to the lion with wings of an eagle which some believe is a reference to England, whose symbol is a lion, with the USA coming out of it. In Rev chapter 12/13 there is reference to the Woman with wings of an eagle being protected in the wilderness which some believe is Israel who is protected by the USA. Now our recent behavior toward Israel may contradict this but in general we have been Israel's greatest ally. God help us if we forsake Israel. For more on this, see Irvin Baxter's website He has interviewed Constance on his radio program.
"It is intensifying, especially as the Environmental Movement and Agenda 21 issues permeate the Church, moving it ever so slowly but surely toward earth worship. "

This is very true. If you read the book of Exodus, I think some of God 's plagues on Eqypt is to judge
their gods. So God wll judge the gods of New Age Movement.
I think there are 2 main gods of NAM, worship of SELF and Mother Earth.
I think God judge the worship of SELF by giving painful sores for those who receive the 666 marks. And He judge the worship of Mother Earth by destroying the environment, trees, seas turn to blood, water supplies make bitter etc as recorded in Book of Revelation.

a pre-triber
Hi Constance,

I agree with you that the 10 nations are the Weu. The one exception is Britain cannot be a part of. It is not a Catholic nation. Britain has to get out of the Weu and EU. They may be part of some splinter partner\group like the Eu-Med partnership etc but as a core member they have to go.
Here is the proof of this statement.

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

:13These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

One of the earlier names for the EU was the Common market. The Weu\EU will eventually make nations accept there(by force)if they won't willingly become common in there way of thinking.

Mrs constance I would be very happy to receive your CD. I read from Your blog and Herb boards everyday just to see what the people are thinking. Not to many people understand and see what Jesus has allowed us to see, outside of the bible study class I to belong to, few people understand. Its very refreshing to communicate with people that have a deep understanding in prophecy and endtime events.

Peace to you and all in Jesus mighty name.

Hi Tronicus,

I agree with what you wrote. I would like to add that the USA has played her role in Prophecy. She is also one of the daughters of babylon, She is not the one in Revelation 17&18. She can be found in Daniels along with Australia, Canada, and New Zeland just to name a few.

Daniels tell us about Babylon's destiny

Dan 2:36 This [is] the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.

:37 Thou, O king, [art] a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.

:38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou [art] this head of gold.

Jer 27:6 And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him.

:7 And all nations shall serve him, and his son, and his son's son, until the very time of his land come: and then many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of him.

:8 And it shall come to pass, [that] the nation and kingdom which will not serve the same Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, and that will not put their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, that nation will I punish, saith the LORD, with the sword, and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his hand.


LEGS OF IRON-The First(Old)Roman Empire

TOES OF IRON&CLAY The European union

Deadly Wound = fall of the Roman Empire in 476 A.D.

Deadly Wound Healed = The Resurrected Roman Empire headed by the Beast & the False Prophet.
-----------------------------------1.BABYLON -LION WITH EAGLE WINGS




The United States,Canada,etc are also the son's of Nebuchaddnezer(babylon). Before the arrival of the Europeans to the Americas, the Europeans were worshipping or being persecuted by the Great whore(RELIGON)who chase them out of Europe. The fleeing Persecuted eventually created dauhters(religon) of the whore when she set up in the America's and everywhere else. In the land of Ham(africa) and Asia the prevaling worship was all pagan except for the few faithful who was serving God the best they could.

You can traced everthing back to Nebu(babylon) or if you are very particular to Nimrods(babylon)

peace in the name of Jesus

This blog seems to have turned almost completely to end times speculation rather than the sharing of information about the political and religious ends of the New Age movement. Would anyone know of any other blog that focuses on the changes going on across the world as a result of the move toward acceptance of occult thinking in both those areas. While information about Javier Solana is unique to this blog, I am also interested in sharing other information about the New Age movement which continues to grow.
The EU as currently structured, is neither Protestant nor Catholic. It is ONE PAGAN EUROPE under SOLANA!
I am writing an article, "Where have all the New Agers gone? To the New Age cum Radical Middle cum GLOBAL GOVERNANCE". Remember, Javier Solana and Tony Blair are two of the main players in this network, Solana leading!

To keep up with the subject yourself as I write (it is already lengthier than it should be for a blogspot!), why doesn't everybody go check out Mark Satin (remember, he is the author of NEW AGE POLITICS) and his "Radical Middle website" where he talks so happily about their successful global networking into 'global governance.' That site is

As I think back about Walter Martin and Elliott Miller saying the New Agers were not consciously politically networking, the fact that this type of disinformation was spread at such a high and respected level in the Christian community nearly makes my blood boil.

Check it out!
Radical Middle? Check this one too:
Greetings Constance!

In a post that you made in July you stated the following:

"I will be releasing a very heavy article very soon about a variety of compelling recent developments -- in and out of the European Union. Things are happening so fast now on so many fronts -- sometimes hard to digest it all."

Where are you in the process of releasing "the article."

Also, I would encourage you to look into the recent developments regarding the EU's banking/financial reforms, particularly that a standard Eurozone ACH that is to go into affect in 2010. While I have not had time to look into the connections that this issue might have with the machinations of JS, I do know that this will make it a lot simpler to monitor/control financial transactions. What's interesting in regards to the EU's move to a standard ACH transaction, is that it coincides with several implementation time frames for Check21 here in the US.

Anyway, just something to consider. By the way, I really enjoyed your CD. Very informative!
I am thankful for your thoughts on the Russia/China exercises. I believe the human mind automatically goes into denial concerning the potential realities that exist in our world when we read such articles. Regrettably,we American believers have been spiritually short-changed by the majority of our leaders in preparing our minds for tribulation in the world. We forget that Jesus promised us that don't we?

Anyway, for the past 4 years I have been doing alot of prayerful study of the scriptures without my "American glasses on". I think many of us see the scriptures through our culture instead of seeing our culture with "biblical glasses on".

What I have seen through biblical glasses concerning the past, present and future of America to date can be found at I hope you'll visit and provide me your fedback. I agree with Constance that we all see through a glass darkly-you can take a look at what's in my glass now there.
Constance, you mentioned the beast wearing out the saints of the Most High in Daniel 7. You are absolutely right but that is a poor verse to try and support a post-trib view. If you recall there will be 144,000 jews preaching the gospel during the tribulation which will bring many to Christ. So while the antichrist may be persecuting the saints of God, that does not mean the church. Paul commands us in Titus to look for that blessed hope not the tribulation. Don't confuse the saints of the tribulation with the church.
Remember our fundamental goal is to preach the gospel and to lead as many as we can to Christ. Time is indeed short!
May the Lord bless you
As fundamentalist we need to be ready at all times.If Donald Rumsfield has declared a war on fundamentalism you can bet he means us christians as well. Be ready for Jesus always, always , always. Rember our redemption drawth neigh. Keep up the good work Constance. I thought Herb's recent two articles were intresting
You can bet Rumsfield has declared war on us fundamental christians
Jesus Christ Is Lord and no others.

The news article above describes a different opinion of the Gaza pullout by Israel and leaves me believing that maybe George W. Bush and company haven’t joined fully with Solana and the Europeans in wanting to destroy Israel. I would be worried if the New Age Pagans were in control of the USA again as they were during the Yugoslavia invasion when our military was used by Solana led NATO. Does anyone understand we helped Muslim and Nazi terrorists overthrow Christians in Yugoslavia? Yes, I did say Nazi. International NeoNazi fighters joined the terrorism forces in 1996 according to the 1997 book THE BEAST REAWAKENS by Martin A. Lee. NeoNazi leaders in Germany are quoted several times saying a united Europe will be needed to reach their goals. They are certainly on the same page with Solana and are supporting him. This book shows the racist attitude of pre WW II Germany is still a major problem but does not mention Norse racist militant paganism and their Gods Odin and Thor that are shown in other books. GODS OF THE BLOOD THE PAGAN REVIVAL and WHITE SEPARATISM by Mattias Gardell is an excellent one about white supremacists in the USA showing we are culturally moving in the same paganist direction as pre war Germany.

I would rather watch this thing with Israel and Solana play out a little more before I bury my head in the sand and accuse a professing Christian president of ungodly things.

Has anyone noticed white supremacists are now voting for Democrats and spouting off the same radical political rhetoric as the extreme wackos of the political left, like Cindy Shehan protesting at the Bush ranch. A news article about a lady who came to join in the fun at Crawford TX named her son Thor. Could that be about the hammer God Thor mentioned above. David Duke, the long time Nazi, has written in support of these nuts. And everyone calls the white supremacists right wing, How strange.

Are these people New Agers? I think they are but with a different flavor. I too am here at this blog to learn more about New Agers, but I do see a New Age connection to the EU and Solana. New Age deception in the church is one I find repelling. We go to church trusting to be taught true Christian ways but we don’t always get the truth.
With all due respect to Jim, considering the input Bush,Sr. made on the New World Order and Madrid Mideast Peace Conferences organized by Solana in Madrid in the early 1990s, I am not quite as relaxed about the President and his role on all this. I heard Donald Rumsfeld describe what was happening as "the World" battling extremism. Are we next? I deeply suspect we just might be? One is allowed to have a religion in the New World Order. One is just not allowed to believe it true. If somebody is into something New Agey or atheistic -- they may tell you theirs is true. That is called DIALOGUING. If you tell them your is true, that is called PROSELYTIZING.

Get it?!
Sorry the link in the previous comment may not work. Let me try again.
Thanks Jim for bringing needed new material to this blog. After Rice's comments about Israel having to make further concessions, I have serious doubts about whether Bush wants the state of Israel to shrink to.
I give up on the link to the article for now.

Constance I share your concerns about Bush Sr. and the new world order. Very interesting to note all his public comments about his faith were vague and never said he was born again believer as has his son. I realize I could be very wrong to trust him but I see him or someone else who trusts Jesus Christ as what may be our only way to avoid the New World Order. After reading some of your recent articles I am starting to think anti-christ will start his thing sooner rather than later no matter what. I also pray my family and I will be ready.

The Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League are two of the most prominent groups who keep track of hate groups. They refer to them as Extremist groups. So do Government officials. I did not hear Donald Rumsfield make his statement about Extremists but if I did I would think nothing unusual about it. Iwould expect him to refer to our terrorist enemies as Extremists, but never Christians. We indeed are at war with Extremists and you may remember shortly after 9/11 officials expressed concern about our own hate groups joining with the terrorist who attacked us.
There is and has been for many years collaboration between our own hate groups and others around the world including hate groups in Europe and Islamic Extremists, as well as Rulers of some Arab countries. These Extremists here are strongly anti-Government and revolutionist. Some share the New Age desire for the New World Order. Others are against it. Solana and his desire to eliminate Fundamentalist religious groups are certainly a departure from the term Extremist.

There is lots more but I would rather read a revised edition of Hidden Dangers Of The Rainbow. I enjoy this blog site with all the excellent articles and comments. Carry on
Constance said,

"Neither side [pre-tribbers and post-millenialists] is prepared in the least for prophesied persecution and the clear reading of Daniel 7 where it was prophesied that "the beast" would "wear out the saints of the most high" and that this would last 3 1/2 years."


I definitely agree that the passage says that "the beast" will wear out the saints, but if you you examine the context in which all of the prophecies are given, they are concerning Israel and HER REDEMPTION.

Check Daniel 9 and I think verse 24 where it basically says that they are to annoint the most holy and seal up prophecy so that they can bring in everlasting righteousness. The whole context of Daniel is about what when will Israel get her redemption/messiah. Double prophecies are given: deliverance from the present Babylonian captivity and then deliverance from the persecution that will come (from Daniel's standpoint in time) in "latter days". Israel--the Jews missed the coming of their Messiah and in turn brought out their second Diaspora. We (Christians) are redeemed--they're not. As a pre-tribber one has to acknowledge the 2,000+ years parenthesis between the cross and the signing of the covenant between "the beast" and Israel, that is clearly overlooked further down in the passage of Daniel 9:27 where it mentions the messiah will be cut off, but not for himself--then it jumps OVER 2,000+ years to the future where the abomination of desolation occurs. This is perfect harmony with not one mentioning of the Church by name in the book of Revelation. CHURCH SAINTS are not referenced in Daniel AT ALL. Now if you said, MESSIANIAC JEWS and the Gentiles that are saved during the tirbulation as the saints that "the beast" wears out, then that would harmonize perfectly with the scope and context of the passage in Daniel that you quoted.

But that's just my take. :)

It's good to hear from you again Constance. I'm so happy!


There are saints who are dead now, there are saints that are alive and will be when Jesus returns. There are saints who will go through the great tribulation, some who will die and some who will give there life for Jesus to be a example for the uninformed people during that time. There are saints who are more informed that others and have better understanding of God's word. These are called the elect or very elect. These saints will not go though the tribulation period because of there understanding of end time events and the instruction Jesus left. Here are a few verses to support this statements, other verses people have touched on already so I wont post.


Ps 50:5 Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.

Rv 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Rv 16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

Rv 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

HERE are saints that cant be decieved and are called the very elect by Jesus.

Mt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

This is how you become a elect or very elect. (Foreknowledge)
having knowledge of a situation before it happen.

1Pt1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
5: Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Now that you have the forknowledge yuo know to flee when you see the anti-christ revealing, he will start the great tribulation at his coming.

Mk 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
19: For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

Your foreknowledge will instruct you to flee into the wilderness with the woman(the church) prepared of by God for the 3-1/2 years from satan.

Rv 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

14: And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Now we see those who did not heed to the instruction left by God to flee. The one's who did not beleive in fleeing or the place prepared by God, they did not go to the place prepared and satan turned his attention to them.
These people believed in a rapture of the church, which has no biblical proof.

17: And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rv 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus

People the Lord is very exact on what He wants us to do. He is not a respecter of people. He will do harm to those who do not obey his instruction as you read in the bible how the saints are killed by the beast and false prophet.

Jesus left this verse to seriuosly consider.

Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Jesus cant change the way he delivered the saints in the past is the same way he shall deliver them in the future.

Please ponder these few scriptures I can provide many more.

peace to all in the Mighty Name of Jesus

Jim, take a look at what is happening at the academic level and give a look at Lucis Trust material. In Lucis Trust material evil is defined as that which causes separation. Jews are demonized in these writings because they have remained separate over the years, and indeed the Orthodox community continues to remain separate, even from secular Jews.

What causes separation? The belief that one has the correct position, and fundamentalist religious people definitely think they have the the final answer. When fundamentalist religioius people feel an attack on their religion is taking place, they may take positions that are militant.

What is generally not explored is the fact that the activist Muslims have a deep belief in their religion. They see the West and its religions as corrupt and they feel they must hold their ground and expand or they will be swallowed up by international forces. They also believe they have God behind their actions. They are the model being used to show the dangers of religious fundamentalism.

They fit the Lucis Trust definition of what is evil.

But also according to the Lucis Trust definition, Christian extremists are the kind of people who fight the secular government of the US, causing a separation among the people in the US.

By Lucis Trust standards, the people who are good are those who are willing to work toward a blending of all religions in something like the United Religions Initiative.

Mortimer Adler wrote that to have a world government there must be a common culture and Judaism and Christianity are not acceptable because they have a moral code tht can't be proven. The Eastern religions are just fineby the standards he proposed.

With the Muslim activists as an example, we are being treated to continuous lecturing on the dangers of religious extremism, as seen in fundamentalist Jewish and Christian activity. It is continuously being suggested that they may go the route of the extremist Muslims.

At the academic level we see such material as
(Allow the mouse to pick up any extension of the link outside the border. On your Krauthammer link you should just put it in, ignoring the borders you see here. I picked up the article by putting the two sections in one after the other.)

Those posting the long end times commentary here might be considered extremists by others. Jehovah's Witnesses at one's door might be considered extremists. Those who are pro-life are considered extremists by the media people.

The scale will tip when enough modified people are convinced that those labeled extremists are a danger to the country. A lot of preparation is going into that scale tipping at this point.
Pat Robertson is up to his eyeballs in New Age activity as described by Constance. Now watch the little game plan taking place. This article was sent to me by a fellow researcher. Robertson is viewed as a representative of fundamentalist Christians. Here multi-millionaire Robertson suggests that Chavez needs to be killed. He will never do it of course, but let's say that one of his less than intelligent followers takes a whack at it. See how bad fundamentalist Christians look with their connection to Robertson, and if someone does take a try, well, you can imagine.

Pat Robertson Says U.S. Should Kill Venezuela's Chavez, AP Says

Aug. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Television evangelist Pat Robertson told viewers the U.S. should kill Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to prevent the Latin American country from becoming a ``launching pad'' for extremism, the Associated Press said.

Chavez, 51, has repeatedly accused President George W. Bush of backing efforts to topple his government, a charge the U.S. denies. The U.S. has alleged Venezuela is using its oil to undermine democracy in Latin America. Venezuela, the U.S.'s fourth-largest oil supplier, has threatened to cut off supplies.

``We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability,'' Robertson said yesterday on the television program ``The 700 Club,'' AP reported. The cleric founded the Christian Broadcasting Network, based in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

Killing Chavez, who is visiting Cuba, would be cheaper than starting a war, AP cited Robertson as saying. The U.S. can't allow Venezuela to become a ``launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism,'' he said, according to AP.

(AP, 8-23)

To contact the reporter on this story:
Alex Morales in London at

Last Updated: August 23, 2005 05:23 EDT

You will note that Bush promised $50 million to the Palestinians for resettlement of Gaza, but never mentioned any help for the Jewish refugees.

What was given up when the settlements were taken away and given to the Palestinians? Oh yes, Western Jews raised $14 million to pay for the greenhouses that are to be turned over to the Palestinians.

1. Needless to say, there is plenty blame to go around for the tragedy of Gush Kativ. Gush Katif, whose 800 cows constituted the second largest dairy farm in Israel. Gush Katif, which produced 95% of all Israel’s exports of bug-free lettuce and greens, 70% of all Israel’s exports of organic vegetables, 60% of all Israel’s exports of cherry tomatoes, and 60% of all Israel’s exports of geraniums. Gush Katif, whose total sum of exports from greenhouses was $100,000,000, which is 15% of the total agricultural exports of the whole state of Israel—this Gush Katif is gone—given to Arab terrorists now boasting of their victory over Israel.

All built by the Israelis on land considered useless and never developed by the Palestinians when they had it.
Thanks to all. The Lucis Trust article is informative. Do they really expect people to believe Baptists are suicidal terrorists.
The George Bush picture from the news article in the previous comment really grabs me. I put a copy on my desktop. I am pro-Israel and I do appreciate your comments.
From Europe we get the following very long essay telling us how dangerous the Religious Right, composed of Christians and Jews, is. This article will help you understand that New Age is a worldwide movement. The group sounds very much like the far right and left does in this country.

Do some searching of the website to see how certain ideas link together.
So then I go and forget the link. Well here it is.
As you may know, the Nazis loved animal rights. They weren't very keen on human rights however. The New Age movement features animal rights as part of its package of good ideas. New Age is a resurgence of the Nazi philosophy. Here's a story out of the UK which shows how love of animals can triumph over concern for other human beings. And just makes anyone think that the zeal they show for animals won't be carried over into contempt for people who do not think "correctly", as shown in the story which the link goes to.
The following is a link to a website which carried an imporant article by Joyce Morrison on the issue of rewilding. If it isn't the lead column, you can scroll thru the website to find the article. While some are watching the beast mentioned in the bible, other beasts may attack one's small pets or children.

MORRISON: And you thought there was no such thing as “Rewilding America"?

Wednesday, August 24, 2005

By Joyce Morrison

"Illinois lists the Gray/Timber Wolf as threatened," writes Morrison. "People in Illinois didn’t even know we were supposed to have wolves. Strange how the sightings have increased in the past few years which would indicate the wolf re-introduction is well underway."
OPINION - By now most everyone has heard about the plan to introduce elephants and lions and other wild animals to the United States.

Instead of going to the Serengeti Plains, we will have Discovery Channel in our own back yard. This bizarre plan grew from a retreat at Ted Turner’s New Mexico ranch.

“Lions eat people,” said Cornell University ecologist Josh Donlan, the lead author of the proposal. “There has to be a pretty serious attitude shift on how you view predators.”

Lion, elephants, tigers, zebras and the whole works will be introduced and you can bet people will be thrilled and excited about it.

Ted Turner and his friends have the money to give us that “serious attitude shift” and make us “think” it is the greatest thing we could imagine since sliced bread. In reality, we will be paying for the transformation.

In February of 2005, three wilderness bills cleared the Senate Committee. There are wilderness areas everywhere. Even Chicago has a wilderness. (article continues at the link). Again, note that the New Age movement would have us transplant care for humans to care for animals.
Folks let's get the word out on Javier Solana. Their's folk's on the street haven't even heard of javier. I try to speak to other believers about solana. Alot of people are intrested but most seem to go on their merry little way. It's either they don't know what hour it is or maybe they just don't seem to care or be concerned. Folk's we need to get busy and get the word out about what's happening not only in our own country but also across the globe. Love in christ C.C.
After many, many years of watching the changes taking place in the world, I can only say don't bother. Take care of yourself. Christians, Jews, whatever, will be destroyed in the future but until then no one really cares. They are too busy living day to day. After the destruction happens, they will complain that no one did anything. There will be people sitting by their keyboards talking about end times even then.
i think it is good to tell christians about Javier, but for non-christians, don't waste time telling them about Javier, you should tell them about Jesus Christ!

a pre-tribber
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