Friday, December 23, 2016

Holiday dangers for American churches

According to a report from USA TODAY, ISIS/ISIL has issued a list of USA churches to be targeted for holiday attacks.

Quoting from its article, we read:  The Islamic State is urging its followers to attack U.S. churches and has published names and addresses of thousands of prospective targets, according to a report in the news website Vocativ.
Messages posted in Arabic to the group’s “Secrets of Jihadis” social media site called "for bloody celebrations in the Christian New Year." The post, under the name Abu Marya al-Iraqi, said the Islamic State, also known as ISIL, hopes to tap lone wolf attackers to “turn the Christian New Year into a bloody horror movie,” Vocativ reports.
The series of messages appeared on Telegram, a messaging app that allows users to send encrypted messages to one another. The group also uses social media to provide instructions on constructing and igniting explosives.
The information on U.S. churches was based on information already available online and includes a public directory of churches across all 50 states, Vocativ said.
Another post urged followers to attack churches, hotels, crowded coffee shops, streets, markets and public places and provided some examples in the U.S. Canada, France and the Netherlands, Vocativ said.
This is sobering news indeed.  It also reminds me of the ultimate New Age strategy of pitting target groups against each other.  Alice Bailey wrote in THE EXERNALISATION OF THE HIERARCHY (page 545):

"That the Jews should be rid of fear is of major
importance; that they should know and recognise the Christ
as the Messiah, and therefore find for themselves that the
religion they follow is destructive of many of the finer
values, is likewise of major importance; that orthodox
Judaism, along with all the other faiths, should realise
that there is no desire to make them Christian (in the
ordinary sense of the term), but that they should all move
tOWards some loving synthesis and eliminate their mutual
antagonisms and rivalries is equally urgent, and this statement
includes the Christian faiths as well. That the Vatican
cease its political scheming, its exploitation of the masses
and its emphasis upon ignorance is as important; that the
manifold divisions of the Protestant churches be bridged is
imperative. If none of these things happen, humanity is
headed towards a religious war which will make the past
war appear like child's play; antagonisms and hatreds will
embroil entire populations and the politicians of all the
nations will take full advantage of the situation to precipitate
a war which may well prove the end of human history."

It looks like that religious war is here -- or at least credibly threatened.

Stay tuned!



Anonymous said...

Islam is NOT a "sister religion".

Constance Cumbey said...

I hope you understand I was quoting Lucid Trust (Lucifer Trust) and their nefarious 'what if' plans. The statements were about what would happen to the world if the various New Age / occult game plans were not aƧcepted.

Constance Cumbey said...

That should read "Lucis Trust" and not Lucid Trust.

Anonymous said...

Constance: the words of the Lucis Trust represent nothing more than guesses by occultists, not divine prophecy! Islam is not a sister religion and the fact that it wishes to blow up churches is simply another demonstration of it.

paul said...

This is off topic, but I couldn't resist this gem today from Joe Biden, who has already begun his run for President in 2020.

_"In the campaign, you didn’t hear a word about that husband and wife working, making 100,000 bucks a year, two kids, struggling and scared to death. They used to be our constituency.”

Isn't that precious? Joe really gets it, doesn't he?
The poor 100K working stiffs. How will they ever get by?

Anonymous said...

That's double what our single income household brings in and we live well, actually. We live within our means and save and pay for things as we go with no credit cards or oodles of bank loans. Our home is nearly paid off and our vehicles aren't new, but nice. Recent remodel on our house was paid for out of pocket, and have and save for retirement. Not a whole lot of thrills, maybe, but a good decent life, I'd say....blessed-that is what we are.

I did not know we were so "down and out" but if Joe biden says so then must be...... ;)

Anonymous said...

He's not going to get anywhere . Too busy sticking his foot in his mouth and inappropriately touching young members of the opposite sex.

As for the threat on churches, there is this list but it's evidently been around for a while and so far it rests just a list. I don't think we should be complacent about it.

Your point is well taken, Constance that because of years of wars now in the ME a war of religions has been created. With the election of Donald Trump and the right wing candidates gaining ground in Europe, we could see hell break loose.

Constance Cumbey said...

The USA threw Israel to the wolves yesterday. The McNeill family is taking a well deserved Christmas weekend off from the radio network, so we won't be on the air live today to discuss this -- stay tuned to next Saturday.


Constance Cumbey said...

To 8:54 pm: Do you know the difference between occult boastings and execution of their plans -- which happen to be the inverse of biblical prophecy -- everything the Bible says "watch for" they in effect say, "we're going to do." Whether you care to acknowledge it or not, Jews, Christians, and yes, MOSLEMS, are targets of New Age schemers. The goal of a "New World Religion" that writes monotheism out and replaces it with ardent Luciferianism is alive and well. Among other biblical passages, the books of Daniel and Revelation tell us that these type of religious wars will indeed occur. The strategy has long been well repeated by many in New Age circles including but not limited to Barbara Marx Hubbard, Neale Donald Walsch, Peter LeMesurier and other. They would not have to worry because the massed forces of the Old Age would go on to fight each other in a massive mutual venting of long pent up aggression." Then, the New Agers believe they will be the Phoenix to arise from our mutual ashes and build their new society. Congratulations to them, it will last, for a whole 3 1/2 years. Enjoy their reign, such as it is.


Constance Cumbey said...

By the way, Joe McNeill of network and his family took a well deserved weekend off so today I didn't do the program and they played a Canadian end of year program instead. I expect we will be back on schedule 10 am to noon, Eastern Standard time (7 am Pacific time) next Saturday morning.


Constance Cumbey said...

By now, I hope all of you have noted the ominous development of yesterday. Barack Obama threw Israel to the woods by failing to exercise the USA's veto power in the oft-repeated attempts at UN Security Council condemnation of Israel. This was to the consternation and anger of many on both sides of the political aisle. I'm sure Grant of New Zealand will have much to say as well about his country's role in this sorry process.


Anonymous said...

Yes, taking note, Constance.

And why 2017 is going to be one to see major upheaval of the whole issue in this ancient hatred the Bible has detailed. Trumps pick as ambassador and moving the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem will not bode well with those doing all the hating (if it even gets to come to fruition)....
Entirely prophetic because Zechariah 12 told us Jerusalem is the cup of trembling and the burdensome stone for the whole world.

That shortened time, the 3 1/2 year reign of terror as none other, may be coming up faster than we know.

Anonymous said...

Merry Christmas to everyone!

Anonymous said...

Whether you care to acknowledge it or not, Jews, Christians, and yes, MOSLEMS, are targets of New Age schemers. The goal of a "New World Religion" that writes monotheism out and replaces it with ardent Luciferianism is alive and well.

I'll acknowledge it if it's true, Constance. Show me some evidence.

Islam denies the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth, and the spirit behind it is therefore an antichrist spirit according to St John's epistles. Islam presents a picture of the one Creator God which is deeply distorted - he is remote and fickle and offers no help to people. Who is the father of lies? Don't you think the father of lies is capable of coordinating NA and Islam against his people, Christians? Why do you think that New Agers are insistent that Islam is a religion of peace when all history and its own scriptures reveal it to be a religion of war? New Agers and Muslims dislike each other, of course, but dislike is characteristic of the kingdom they are unknowingly in. The man who has been president before your eyes for the last 8 years is a perfect example of this coordination; Wake Up!

Anonymous said...

PS I mean evidence that Moslems are targets of New Age schemers. I accept that Jews and Christians are.

Anonymous said...

"If none of these things happen, humanity is headed towards a religious war which will make the past war appear like child's play"


If Satan can't convince the world to come together, act as one, realize our "commonality", our "human potential", blend our religions into one set of by "universal" principles (that Satan himself has devised, and men have dutifully spelled out in the U.N.'s 2030 Agenda).....then the end times as pre-recorded in the Bible will occur....God Himself will pour out judgment, the likes of which no one can fathom.

So get to work people, Satan doesn't have a lot of time.

I believe the "Plan" is mere wishful thinking and should not be confused with prophecy. No "Plan" devised by Satan will overcome or derail God's plan.

Anonymous said...

Satan planned to crucify the King of Glory but God's ways are higher. Sometimes it looks as if Satan is gaining ground, but God knows the ends from the beginning and the evil one will not succeed. He can kill mortal bodies, but he can not steal our eternal life.

If someone is sealed with God's spirit he/she has nothing to fear. I do believe Satan is ramping up his activity because he knows his time is short. For those who are watching CERN do have a look at Anthony Patch's work on this. He calls it the new tower of babel because over 66 nations are cooperating on one of the most expensive projects and the scientists involved are trying to open up another dimension and send things through and receive. This sounds pretty diabolical to me.

In addition there is the dancing Shiva in front of CERN and they have performed a mock human sacrifice there. Now why would someone do that unless they were tapping into the Aleister Crowley type rituals to gain some kind of occult power.

For those not familiar they claim to have found the "god particle" which is the smallest partical of life which they colide together at high speeds with the hope of opening up a hole in the universe. I am not a physicist so my explanation may not be great but you can look at their site and then listen to Anthony:

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

ISLAM is inherently antichristian not blinded holdover Jews from OT revelation but arose in days of NT revelation and rejected it! no excuse and no supporting covenant.
four video play list Why we are afraid a 1400 year old secret and three others. quotes from the two most authoritative hadith
collections ex muslims and David Wood.

A Pew poll found that on average 65% of muslims consider jihadis heroes.

Islam denies Jesus' divinity, denies His death ergo also His Resurrection says Judas took His place
disguised as HIm on the Cross and "God has no son" they say and has special hatred of Jews.

"MONOTHEISTIC?" monotheism means nothing. WHICH god claimant is the one considered the
only god? The True God is not a god concept but a specific Person or one God in Three Persons.
you could consider satanism monotheistic for that matter.

The hadiths what Mohammed said and did are islam in practice and shariah basis many moslems
don't know much shariah, what islam means by justice is islam rules the land oppression is islam
doesn't rule common sense not definition. ISIS teaching similar to madrassah foreign powers
supported slacker islam and stopped slavery (exists saudi arabia qatar) so a big feature of the
unchastity and even homosexuality of islam is absent from common culture.

(legal for you is what your right hand possesses) and a boy is not a man only adult men together
are to die and you need four adult male muslim eyewitnesses (or confession) to convict on any
crime MAKES ALL VICE ENDEMIC NO WITNESS rape complaint gets you punished since you
confessed fornication and your defense has no witness support.

Mohammed was afraid Gabriel was a djinn a demon Khadijah talked him out of this the behavior
of the entity was not friendly. What Is the Mainstream Media Hiding?
this would be legal as long as the father of the kids agrees to it under shariah.
left out of this report is that fornication is not fornication in shariah if done with someone one
has bought. (who your right hand possesses incl. war captives.) islam the religion of loopholes missing children American end up sold to Saudi Arabia with
American government looking the other way

Anonymous said...

You are right about Islam, Christine.

paul said...

Merry Christmas
Amen 7:24 and 12:25,
and, it must be a very special day. I agree with Christine.

Lord God give everyone here a special measure of discernment
in 2017 as we are forced to wade through lies and deception
from many different corners.
Let us keep our eyes on Jesus alone as we navigate these
treacherous waters in the days ahead.
Keep us in your will and in your Way.

Thomas Ivan Dahlheimer said...

"Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer. The tradition, influenced by Gnosticism, usually reveres Lucifer not as the devil, but as a liberator, a guardian or guiding spirit or even the true god as opposed to Jehovah." "Lucifer in this context is seen as one of many morning stars, a symbol of enlightenment, independence and human progression,..." "For Luciferians, enlightenment is the ultimate goal. The basic Luciferian principles highlight truth and freedom of will, worshipping the inner self and one's ultimate potential. Traditional dogma is shunned as a basis for morality on the grounds that humans should not need deities or fear of eternal punishment to distinguish right from wrong and to do good. All ideas should be tested before being accepted, and even then one should remain skeptical because knowledge and understanding are fluid. Regardless of whether Lucifer is conceived of as a deity or as a mere archetype, he is a representation of ultimate knowledge and exploration: humanity's savior and a champion for continuing personal growth." ref.

Anonymous said...

And lucifer (or satan) was, and is, and ever will be, the greatest, epic failure of the entire universe.

The Lord Jesus Christ Reigns as King! All Glory, and Power, Wisdom, Knowledge, and Dominion, are Forever........HIS.

Anonymous said...

Dear 12.25am,

I am an active research physicist with a doctorate in the subject. Calling the Higgs particle the "God particle" was done by popularizers of science and perhaps by secular scientists looking for a hookline analogy ("master particle" would have been a more responsible name), but nobody seriously confuses a subatomic particle with a volitional spiritual being. Patch's point here is what? And what exactly is meant by a "hole in the universe"?

For those who are watching CERN do have a look at Anthony Patch's work on this. He calls it the new tower of babel because over 66 nations are cooperating on one of the most expensive projects and the scientists involved are trying to open up another dimension and send things through and receive

That is an absolute misrepresentation of what goes on at CERN. CERN is an international collaboration because it is so large; smaller countries are encouraged to join up in order to encourage science in them, as the laws of physics are the same in all countries.

Some theoretical physicists advocate theories that only make sense if there are more than three spatial dimensions. They argue that the higher dimensions are "rolled up", the way the second and third dimensions of a pencil are, compared to its length when viewed on the large scale. If that is so, the higher dimensions come into view on very small length scales. CERN hopes to test these theories. I am not a fan of these theories, actually (nor am I affiliated with CERN), but to say that CERN is hoping to "send things through and receive" to and from a higher dimension is simply nonsense. What is the basis for this claim? Can anybody source it from any CERN publication?

That Shiva statue at CERN was a gift from the Indian government. I regret it, but I do not believe it is a big deal. As St Paul says, an idol is nothing at all. The mock sacrifice prank by some students there was a very foolish prank indeed, but it caused physical harm to nobody and was unauthorized and condemned by CERN.

Nearly all of the New Age trash that gets associated with CERN is written by science journalists looking for an angle to sell copy.


Craig said...


If I could get your comment on the following, that’d be great. It involves an individual I’d mentioned before, the one with the doctorate in philosophy who claims God is limited in His omniscience (which I presume means He doesn’t [fully] know the future – a la process theology). How do physicists envision the period prior to creation (Big Bang) with respect to time and space? How “empty” was it?

Anonymous said...


How empty was what? (Serious question, intended to get you thinking...)

The key - and difficult - fact to get your head round is that not only space began at the Big Bang (which is easy), but time. This means that any question involving the phrase "before the Big Bang" is without meaning, as "before" is a time-word.

Some points to try to make this easier: (1) Einstein showed that space and time are intimately related, so that if space began at the Big Bang then it is fairly reasonable that time did too; (2) Asking what was before the Big Bang is like asking what is north of the North Pole (mathematically, the analogy is quite close); (3) This resolves very neatly the who-created-God regress problem, for the question supposes that God was created by some super-God before God created the universe, yet "before" is a time-word. The regress never gets going.

Whenever I have used the word "time" above I have always meant clock time, chronos in Greek, but there is also kairos in the Bible. Perhaps this can help in some way; perhaps space and chronos-time have heavenly analogues, in which the analogy to chronos is kairos. This is speculation (and I'd want to know the Hebrew words as well as the Greek), but it might be useful.

The omniscience issue I don't see as related. For that you need a decent theologian; no science knowledge is necessary.


Craig said...


Thanks so much for your response. I assumed numbers 1, 2, and 3 (and you had answered this once before, as I recall, but couldn't find it), but I wanted to be 100% sure that I wasn't missing anything. As I thought, ya can't have time without space, and ya can't have space without time.

The title of his (self-published) book is God, Time and the Limits of Omniscience: A Critical Study of Doctrinal Development, so I've a feeling the author has somehow related time and omniscience (and the author has stated on his blog that God doesn't {fully?} know the future). I just asked him a simple question regarding what "time" was ‘prior’ to creation, even going so far as asking if this "time" is different than our linear time, and he responded by pointing to his book. Not very helpful.

I think what one believes about the relationship between linear time and eternity can have an impact on one views how God relates to creation (and vice verse); and, this is what I think is at play here.

Anonymous said...


I have to vehemently disagree that Anthony Patch is just trying to sell books. He documents his claims and I might not be doing him justice.

There was also a mock human sacrifice performed at CERN and a quite occult performance at the opening of a Swiss tunnel, which could very well be associated with Cern. Cern's own scientists say that they want to "make contact" with a parallel universe.

Since the time of the Nazis there has been scientific research done that has prophetic implications.

Remember these are their scientists saying this, not me.

Anonymous said...

Also as for the gift from the Indian government , the dancing Shiva symbolizes destruction. Symbols in the minds of occultists do mean something and are not random.

In case you missed these:

I do think there are areas that science should not venture in. Playing with dimensions and playing with DNA crosses a boundary that man should not. From ancient times man tapped into fallen angel technology to do things like build ziggurats, pyramids, nuclear bombs and so on.

The one question I would ask, do you know what these scientific activities could produce?

Dan Bryan said...

Well Christmas has come and gone.
I believe we have seen some classic 'Fake News'.

The purpose of which was to trigger some Islamic nutcase to 'Act"
The second purpose is to instill in people a sense of terror.
The third purpose is to have the populace screaming for more security aka subjugation by the state..

Anonymous said...

Dear 12.44/12.53am

If you want a Christian take on a subject, there is some merit in listening to Christians who understand it. What about the physics that goes on at CERN? At present you are quoting secular people who understand it (ie, scientists), secular people who don't understand it in depth (science journalists) and a Christian who massively misunderstands it (Patch, whom I never accused of commercialism - I think he is a hysteric).

The mention of extra dimensions in one of your references is exactly as I have explained (re the pencil). As for the multiverse, the word has several meanings, unfortunately. Here is the theory to which you refer:

Please note that this is simply science, the testing of a prediction about physical aspects of reality. I go with the "Criticism" section of the latter reference: this is an extremely speculative theory.


omots said...

I am surprised that Physicist failed to come up with a scientific definition for God's "omniscience" and instead punted the idea to "theologians".

If God existed before time and space were created, then He exists both in and outside of time and space. Seems to me that's a scientific concept, though it's a hard one to wrap your head around.

The Bible tells us that God is eternal, and that He sees the end from the beginning, "a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like a day", etc. He is the Alpha and Omega, and there is nothing that can be known that He doesn't know and nothing created (existent) that He didn't create, which includes the laws of how this present universe operates, which "scientists" are so preoccupied with discovering, if only in hope of mitigating the effects of entropy, (or "the curse", for those more theologically inclined).

Omniscience therefore, is simply the intimate knowledge of and responsibility for the sum total of all that ever was or ever will be. Is that merely a "theological" concept, or does it reflect reality which science is seeking to discover and understand once and for all?

Perhaps the confusion is where does one draw the line between theology and science? Both systems try to understand reality. But at least in my view, both have their weaknesses and limitations, because man has weaknesses and limitations.

Theology that is accurate and sound cannot be in violation of the laws of the universe (science). Likewise, science cannot discover anything which God did not create. All science can do is catalog His handiwork, and play around with various aspects of His creation, often without understanding what we are really doing.

Anonymous said...

Amen, OMOTS.

It still seems to boil down this way in my mind..
..people (with inquiring minds want to know, right?) tend to think and say (to God) "show me...and I'll believe" but God, being Eternal God Who is Alpha and Omega, had said already from the very start (in the beginning) "believe Me........and I'".

Only God can and does pull that off.

This is the way it is, whether we talk theology or science, just living period.

Anonymous said...

“The arrogance of scientists is even more obvious when it comes to members of the 'general public', namely those who have no degrees, institutional positions or scholarly publications. For such individuals to comment about science --about what topics should be researched, how it should be done, the meaning of scientific results, or to propose a new theory--is commonly considered to be a joke."

When a scientific discovery is made, or new technology is revealed…

“'Experts' [often] dismiss comments by concerned citizens as uninformed. They dismiss key social dimensions to debates as irrelevant. They assert that the 'facts', as determined by scientists, have primacy… no matter that scientists may have preconceived ideas, limited knowledge or be funded by vested interests, all of which can undermine the alleged objectivity of 'facts'. Scientists [generally] think they know best.”

[excerpt from “The Arrogance of Scientists” – c. 1993, Martin/Beder]

Anonymous said...

Craig said...


I got a response from the author yesterday:

[T]emporality is a function of person, of consciousness. So there is no distinction between eternity and time, Greek words of analysis, but not part of the Hebrew notion of continuum (there is no Hebrew word for time as an abstract). Christian theology distinguishes “time” from “eternity” and sets up an artificial distinction that causes us to postulate an ex-temporal God. I trace this to the Greek distinction developed from the idea that time is essentially a measure of change. We experience time in the outside world this way, but Husserl demonstrates the internal time consciousness is also temporal transition regardless of outside change or not. So, if time is an element of consciousness, then God’s consciousness is eternal and time is therefore eternal. Our idea of time as material change is a subset of eternal. Because it is a subset of this larger category, there is no difficulty at all with God’s interaction with His creation. But as Pike demonstrates, postulating an ex-temporal God creates logic contractions that cannot be overcome with theologian manipulation. Please read the book. This is but a tiny piece of a very extended argument.

My response:

I have to ask, does all matter have consciousness as well (I have a book by new age/occult author Alice Bailey, whose title answers it from her perspective: The Consciousness of the Atom); and, if not, does this render matter non-temporal?

My perspective is that, since Einstein proved that time and space are intimately related, and that, according to physicists, space does not antedate creation (Big Bang), then time (temporality) does not either. Moreover, time/temporality is not a subset of eternity, in my view. God has always existed in the eternal realm, currently exists in the eternal realm; and God, though omnipresent, immanent in His creation, is not at all affected by His creation, including temporality. God’s consciousness is such that it conceives all things, past, present and future simultaneously; this is why He is described as the First and the Last, the Alpha and Omega. Just as we understand that God has no beginning (First, Alpha) – otherwise, who would have ‘made’ God? – we understand that God has no ending (Last, Omega). In other words, these self-designations (“I am the First and the Last”) are ways of expressing His eternality, His infinite existence as YHWH.

Craig said...


Just for the record, I posted my response to the aforementioned author yesterday, before I'd read your comment. I agree with the basic thrust of your comment - interesting that we both used "the Alpha and the Omega".

I think you may be misunderstanding Physicist's intent in answering my question, at least as I construe his intent. I think he was strictly addressing my specific question from the perspective of a scientist, not wishing to add his own theological views regarding omniscience (note his final clause in comment to me), which, as a physicist would be beyond his field. That's not to say he couldn't postulate an answer, using his physics background.

Anonymous said...


Anthony Patch is not hysterical and has brought up some very important issues related to CERN. To dismiss his observations with the word hysterical means absolutely nothing, because you have not really addressed some of the very most basic concerns about the firing up of the Hadron Collider or the bizarre symbols surrounding it or the comments by other scientists like Hawkings who have concerns about the project. Yes, the Indian government knows very well what the dancing Shiva represents.
The symbols in front of CERN and the mock ritual sacrifice like the bizarre opening of the Swiss tunnel are not accidental. Occultists always do things in plain site. This has spiritual implications from their perspective. For a curse to be effective, it has to be broadcast. If you notice our whole society is filled with types of occult imagery, and it's deliberate.
The US dollar bill wold be a prime example. Remember when folded correctly 9/11 appears, but even without folding you have the all seeing eye and the occult phoenix bird, not to mention other symbols.

I for one don't think scientific research should pose a threat to our universe. We see with everything from aerial spraying, which you can deny but I have actually documented it and so have others, to DNA manipulation there is little respect for God's creation. This is because Satan would love to destroy God's creation. Nuclear weapons could put the world back into its gaseous state and yet mankind developed it. Once something like nuclear energy is created, mankind is forced to live with the risks and harm it poses. I'm not just talking about wars, even something like Fuaishima which is polluting the ocean.

There are no proper ethical controls on modern science and some of this can and will lead to the destruction of the planet, with the help of the one who comes to rob and steal and destroy, Satan.

You have also not explained some of the occultism behind the scientific work of the Third Reich, which has continued to this day. Even some of the most basic technology like GPS tracking which could supposedly provide some benefits allows every person on the face of the planet to receive an "electronic mark of the beast". Much of what is done in the name of science and technology is demonically inspired and will contribute to the rise of the beast system, spoken of in the Bible but there is nothing new under the sun. From the time Nimrod set to make a tower to the heavens, man has found technology to make him as a god.


Anonymous said...

Kurzweil is involved in diabolic technology with the hope of one day soon, "living forever" by downloading his mind into a computer chip. Recently there have been articles about robots for sex, so ew can see how science and technology are being introduced here that are man's attempt to rebel agains the Creator, the God of the Bible and to bypass the redemption that we have because of what Jesus did at the cross.

We see that scientific discovery is married with the spiritual because these discoveries do have spiritual implications. They also pose risks to mankind in ways that cannot be quantified. I would go so far as to say, that they represent eating from the tree of knowledge because certain kinds of experimentation are attempts to mess with God's creation, as if man knows better. This is just sheer arrogance. There is always a thin line at times between accomplishing good and crossing over into the domain of creation or destruction of the creation which is God's exclusively. Cloning would be an example of science gone awry. Nuclear power is a double-edged sword. It produces cheap energy on the one hand, but has the capability to destroy God's creation.

Man can and has gone to far many times throughout history, and this is because of a lack of humility and a lack of fear of God which is the beginning of wisdom. Of course this planet was never meant to be paradise or we wouldn't have the prophecies of Revelations which talk about the contamination of the waters the earth being burned up, animals and fish dying etc, etc. God in his omniscience knew that man with the help of Satan would bring about his own destruction thus he made the way of salvation in Jesus the Messiah, which confounds those who are wise in their own eyes.

Anonymous said...

Back to normal goings on at this blog.

Constance Cumbey said...

Off line for a few days during holidays. Obviously, Israel has been thrown to the wolves by the USA under Barack Obama. So disturbing, its almost hard to digest.


Anonymous said...

Dear 12.16/12.17am,

Patch has little knowledge of basic physics; that much is obvious from his website. If you want a Christian take on CERN, go to a physicist who is also a committed Christian. I am one such. If you don't believe me then there are plenty more. But don't get your info about CERN from people who don't understand properly what it does.

You said: "You have also not explained some of the occultism behind the scientific work of the Third Reich". It is improper of you to hint that I am covering up in some way. From the start I was discussing CERN alone. I am happy to discuss physics in the Third Reich if you wish. (There wasn't much, because all the Jewish physicists left!) Regarding teh biological sciences, I have no special knowledge and (unlike Patch) I know not to spout off in public about what I am not well informed of.

All knowledge can be used for good or evil, and man's heart is evil. But before you bewail the bad, remember what your life is like compared to that of people before the Industrial Revolution.


Anonymous said...

The Countering Propaganda and Disinformation Act was signed Friday.

Marko said...

Update Brazil #55 is very informative:

Diana West and Jeff Nyquist cover "fake news", Pizzagate, and the fake birth certificate up on the White House website, among other things.

Anonymous said...

Marko, good information. I do think she is being deliberately naive where Trump is concerned. Pedophilia charges seem to be a Russian method to attack those they want to destroy. She knows it was used to attack Bukovski who was cleared. It is possible the Clinton time was over as determined by those who control the Republicans and Democrats which is why the Pizzagate information came out. Trump's connections with the Russins is so out in the open. Time for people to reread the Cuddy books or read his articles at News and Views.

Richard said...

Anonymous said "Kurzweil is involved in diabolic technology with the hope of one day soon, "living forever" by downloading his mind into a computer chip. Recently there have been articles about robots for sex, so ew can see how science and technology are being introduced here that are man's attempt to rebel agains the Creator, the God of the Bible and to bypass the redemption that we have because of what Jesus did at the cross."

And they shall wish to die, but death shall flee from them.....

Some suspect that the 'hell' they will receive will be the 'cloud' to which they upload themselves, a matrix existence with exactly what they wanted: a place without God. And there will be no escape, forever.

You are spot on. These technologies are from the dark side, no doubt. It's coming from one place, and we are not able to handle it because of our corrupt nature. When the rebel host descend to earth some day, we will probably see a next level 'tech' that people will kill for. And every single one of these damn owners/executives at powerful tech companies are dabblers in this witchcraft.

Trump has spent his LIFE chasing and making billions (his god). You say 'He wants to give back'. Pray he does good things for us, but don't count on it. Remember that he is there because THEY allowed him to get in. Perhaps we will fold in the single world order more softly with him.

Things will play out and take their course, with Israel the centre of this theatre.
Let us also keep our eyes fixed on the skies on 23 September of next year.

Craig said...

Comic relief. Thanks to OMOTS, who sent me another satire piece from this site, as I was perusing further, I came across the following:

Columbia University Distributes Microaggression Whistles To Student Body

NEW YORK, NY—Sources confirmed Monday that school officials at Columbia University have instituted a new program to help students alert professors and other undergrads to potential microaggressions, with each pupil at the prestigious university being given a whistle to blow whenever they witness a microagression or begin to feel microaggressed against themselves.

Columbia students are reportedly encouraged to blow their whistle and flail their arms wildly about in the air whenever they hear triggering phrases such as “Where are you from?” “Nice weather today,” or “Hello.”

University president Lee Bollinger stated the initiative is already paying dividends, with numerous reports of near-constant loud whistle blasts constantly being heard in common areas, dorm rooms, bathrooms, dining halls, and classrooms.

“One of our history professors warmly greeted his class and asked how their weekend was,” Bollinger said, “without realizing he was microaggressing students who are uncomfortable with the Gregorian calendar. So they were able to slam him with ear-shattering whistle blasts for the rest of the class period.”

“Our university is now a constant cacophony of whistle blasts. Progress!” he added.

Anonymous said...


I don't think one has to be a scientist to make observations about experimentation that is not ethical. Other than your title I'm not sure what your exact credentials are but that is not important. What is important is that man has a sin nature, and it is that very nature that causes him to "eat" of things that he should stay away from . It's not that I don't support progress, but where are the ethical guidelines for the scientific community to follow? There don't seem to be very many.

Unfortunately these technocratic scientific types will want to rule over us with their beast system. When paper money is abolished, the science and technology of electronic tracking will be used to enslave all those that are deceived enough to receive the mark. Anthony Patch believes it will change human DNA and render us unredeemable. I 100% agree with that hypothesis because it will be like the Days of Noah, and the fallen angel technology and New Age deception no doubt that our "alien ancestors" are visiting planet earth will likely be part of the deception. Recently John Podesta talked about disclosure.
Alien abduction accounts which are similar across the world, are nothing more than demonic deception. This has been proven by people who cry out the name of Jesus, and the so-called abduction stops immediately.

If you look at someone like Steven Greer , he is trying to make contact with these beings that are supposedly superior to us and want peace on the planet. Steve uses New Age channelling to reach out to them, much in the way Blavatsky and others who became demon possessed did. He is going to all the spiritually charged portals on the planet, where lots of occultism has already been documented throughout the centuries.

Science can be used for good and for evil, and without a biblical worldview guiding science it is more likely to veer towards evil.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Trump is culturally Christian but not "born again". I know he has done good things for the Vets, that is a plus, but I'm not deceived enough to think his election was an accident. He will be the one who has to preside over economic chaos and he will do what he is told. Kissinger is not backing Trump by accident.

I am happy that he spoke out against the UN, but this will escalate the conflict and it will not be pretty. The 23rd is between Rosh hashanah and Yom Kippur, so I suppose you are talking about this:

A lot of Christians think everything is going to be great and America is going to be great again. I'm not one who believers that this. The plans are still in motion. The chaos will be used to create NWO, but thankfully Jesus is coming back and for all those who know him, who don't take the mark but who are sealed with his spirit we have nothing to fear. Things could get a bit wild while we're waiting.

Anonymous said...

"Science can be used for good and for evil, and without a biblical worldview guiding science it is more likely to veer towards evil"

Much of what is called organized religion can be used the same way, too.

They that really worship Him, must worship in Spirit and in Truth, not half truth, and not in the spirit of a man, but by the Spirit of God who has been given the reins of the heart, the mind and conscience which He has reclaimed and recreated to know and be known by Him.

The natural man cannot truly know spiritual things, nor the workings of His universe.

Dan Bryan said...

DOD is funded to create and engage what 'they' consider to be disinformation and propaganda. I do not think it will take long before it is used to squelch internal freedoms of information and decent within the USA using the 'refined' tools.

Sec. 1259C) Establishes a Global Engagement Center to lead and coordinate efforts to track foreign propaganda and disinformation efforts intended to undermine U.S. national security interests, and to develop strategies for countering such campaigns. Authorizes the center to provide grants to support civil society groups, journalists, nongovernmental organizations, federally-funded research and development centers, private companies, or academic institutions in analyzing, reporting on, and refuting foreign disinformation efforts.

Anonymous said...

You all might be interested in this....

Walter Veith from Crete to Malta series part 4 of 5


paul said...

I love Walter Veith.
I highly recommend all 5 of the series.
The man is a serious scholar of multiple disiplines.
His take on the history of theater from Sheakespeare
and it's development and effect on our modern
entertainment industry is awesome.
Check out his duel presentations with Ben Carson.

Anonymous said...

"The natural man cannot truly know spiritual things, nor the workings of His universe."

That's a WOW line, but it will never be able to stop thousands and thousands from believing they are the exceptions.

Anonymous said...

@ 7:32 PM
That's the truth. There are many "exceptional" people trying.

Many fine folks are trying to explore and understand, that's commendable, but people who are wise (not wise in their own eyes) soon understand that what they know already is near nothing compared to what there is to be known.

At best, barely a drop in the bucket.

Anonymous said...

Nice recovery 8:39 though I agree with your initial comment. Exceptions to your statement are not necessarily exceptional people. Those who are exceptions to your statement often fail to realize that they should precede their statements with "I think this is what is meant" rather than "God says" followed by words never found in the Bible.

Anonymous said...


Jimmy Carter is calling for Obama to implement the 2 state solution before he leaves office.

After the Kerry speech and the vindictive move by Obama, nothing would surprise me.

Anonymous said...
Little steps.

Anonymous said...

Illinois will be pleased, 12:26 AM.

Anonymous said...

Dear 12.28am,

I'm glad you no longer contradict what I am saying about the physics done at CERN. As for theodicy, I take the same view as any other evangelical Christian, while about the biological sciences I have nothing to say.


Anonymous said...

Soros sold out his own Jewish people and he is on the moral high ground to tell the world how to live and get along???

That's more than chutzpah. This guy is evil.

Anonymous said...

I wrote a comment about Alex Jones and Aleksandr "The American Empire Must Be Destroyed" Dugin a few days ago but it seems it was flagged as spam.

This is a development probably of utmost importance to those who follow Dugin (and the CommuNazi/Perennialist crowd) and for those who are into the Gog/Magog/Russia thing.

Alex Jones and Aleksandr Dugin having a chitchat together on Russian national TV:

I noticed this a few days ago on Dugin's blog but it has now been featured on InfoWars.

Also Alex Jones knew full well who Dugin is, here's a 2014 InfoWars article on Dugin:

Anonymous said...

Thank you Paul - 6:08

I watched Walter Veith's Total Onslaught series several years ago and have just recently found him again. I will look for the one with Ben Carson.

Thank you for the heads up.


Anonymous said...

Paula White is out of Florida, but I'm sure the progs in the Democratic crowd out of Illinois will be pleased. Trump had more in common with them than he did with conservatives before he ran. Here's the rest of the lineup.
Rabbi Heir is not a religious leader. He is more of a Jewish cultural leader. Trump is sure getting his money's worth out of the R100,000 he gave to the Grahams before the primary. Anybody know who the others are?

Anonymous said...
Maybe Trump will be given the title of most entertaining president of all time. That would be good. Nothing disastrous. Just entertaining. I look forward to that speech and how it will be critiqued. It will be good to get away from the reality of New Age which is depressing.

omots said...

Larry King conducted two very informative interviews about cyber warfare on RT today. For those who don't know, America is a sitting duck when it comes to cyber-security. The good news, if there is any, is that so are all the other developed nations of the world.

Bill Marczak starts off and John McAfee's segment begins at about the 5:45 mark. There's really a lot to be gleaned here, well worth the time.

Anonymous said...


Not sure how you pulled that out of my comments. My point is that one doesn't have to be a scientist to observe evil within science. God gives his children wisdom when we seek it. Some observations are just a matter of common sense.

My other point was that science can go too far, and often does and is not for the good of mankind or the planet, and sometimes is downright harmful, and sometimes is in clear violation of the Creator's plan.

As for CERN, scientists have expressed their concern for this type of machine and what problems it could cause and I think those concerns are more than legitimate.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 10:17 Thanks for the lead to Project Syndicate While your opinion of Soros is rational, that site hosts many academic columnists who present economic analysis on which current government decisions have been based. If one looks carefully planned cultural changes are addressed in some of the articles such as the essay by Peter Singer and the article on gender equality. Have you noticed others that I might have missed?

Anonymous said...

Dear 12.20am

Please name one person who is both a committed Christian and an acknowledged research physicist (not just a "scientist" - biology and physics involve totally different expertise) who is concerned about the spirituality of the physics experiments done at CERN. And I mean the spirituality of the experiments, not the spirituality of the people doing them (for CERN includes people of most belief systems). Otherwise, please stop subtly changing the subject.


Anonymous said...

12:56 AM, Project Syndicate spouts elitist manure all the time. They are so jolly proud of themselves.
Every author and topic printed is or is being bent, toward evil.

Let's us see what they're thinking and all the "good" they are planning for the whole world, for us, the idiot masses. The think tank talking heads proport themselves to be cutting edge, but is only the same tried and never true, old manure cycling again.
Methinks many heads are stuck somewhere where the sun doesn't shine.

Anonymous said...

We don't even know who you are.

Anonymous said...

Dear 1.25am,

You too are anonymous! I don't mind if you ignore me. I'll call out nonsense wherever I see it.


Anonymous said...

Is that "Illinois" at 1:25 AM? What a dotty comment you've made... we all know who you are!

Anonymous said...

Excellent challenge, Physicist at 4:00 AM. You've well and truly checkmated those who would have it otherwise. Good stuff!

Anonymous said...

PAULA WHITE has sadly given False Prophecies. Paula White's False Teachings are the: Prosperity gospel, and Word of Faith. She lives a Lavish Lifestyle, and is Promoting this Lifestyle which is Contrary to God's Word. Paula White mangles the Biblical Teaching of Christ's Atonement on the Cross for our Sins & Turns the True Gospel it into a Teaching about Prosperity! In the Paula White Interview with Larry Huch (top video below) they both deny that JESUS is the Only Begotten Son of God. It's all about Money, Money, Money! Check out the Heresies of Paula White, and also Larry Huch in the Videos below. False Teaching without a doubt! We pray she turns from her ways.

Paula White

Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus warns, "Not everyone who calls out to Me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the WILL of MY FATHER in Heaven will enter. On Judgment Day MANY will say to Me, ‘Lord! Lord! We PROPHESIED in Your Name and CAST OUT DEMONS in Your Name and PERFORMED MANY MIRACLES in your Name.’ But I will reply, ‘I NEVER knew you. Depart from Me, you who Practice Lawlessness."

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Or Christine on the sly. She harangues Physicist about not revealing his identity. Which is stupid, of course. Basically we are all anonymous here, except Constance and just a few others who have given more info of themselves, but we can all hide behind text. We have to take things at face value and go with what is true and challenge falsehood. That is all Physicist is doing...or need do.
To that I say thanks physicist!

Anonymous said...

It is in part because of Christine that I wish to remain anonymous.


Anonymous said...

It certainly has all the hallmarks of Christine's rage and vitriolic New Age gnostic venomous signature about it, doesn't it?!!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

The DNA change fears (and nephilim worries) are a demonic deception being promulgated by those
addicted to fleshly excitement designed likely to cause despair among many and even violence towards
the innocent by some.

"...change human DNA and render us the Days of Noah,..."

Jesus said it would be like days of Noah because of unbelievers taken by surprise, nothing else.

your DNA has nothing to do with redeemability

EARTH AND KINGDOM OF HEAVEN neither will transgenics or DNA morphing by CERN or anything
else. (Rev. 5:13)

Being fallen we are ontologically corrupt, body and soul and spirit. a little genetic wierdness can't make
it much worse.

Enoch and others never mention corruption of bloodline only lust. only the first generation hybrids
were cursed, no later generations of partbreds.

Genesis says ONLY Noah was pure in his generations (means spiritual moral purity in generations
he lived through)If only Noah was pure genetically, then his wife and sons weren't we are not pure
human. And that ALL flesh had corrupted its way or been corrupted.

Rev. 5:13 "And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such
as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory , and power,
be unto Him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever." also note a category of
angel called "the four beasts" which have an animal like form. "creature" doesn't mean human used NT
to refer to foods, to institutions, to anything except human except as human is part of the category
created being. check Strong's online.

(animals are souls also per Genesis listing them as having the breath of life, saying this refers to humans is
a desperate scramble to do eisegesis, and makes the absurdity that humans with the breath of life died
but humans without it didn't die but lived and Ecclesiastes 3:21 says animals have spirits. it is not having
a spirit that makes us in the image of God it is character and implications of the bodily format.)

got nephilim genes? do you love Jesus? do you determine to follow Jesus regardless of contrary thoughts
you might have? stop worrying about your genes. If ONLY Noah was pure human then none of us are
because his sons weren't.

Physicist stop ducking by subtly changing the subject Anonymous last Q about PHYSICAL dangers
of CERN lot of physicists have expressed fear not about spirituality of some experiments which wasn't
mentioned secret plan of a few scientists and the ability of the device to deliver what they want are
different issues.

I NEVER ONCE DEMANDED TO KNOW PHYSICIST'S NAME, I asked any who knew to ask Cambridge
vet his credentials and tell me answer but NOT tell me his name. wierd cultish unprofessional notions of
"privacy" so I got curious. I think he is Justin or David Wark of Oxford, likely David. might be wrong. I don't
post anonymously. I'm not the only person you people have pissed off it seems

Anonymous said...

She's finally reared her ugly head: knew it was her tormenting physicist... !

Anonymous said...


This is Physicist. I never thought it was you I was tangling with above about CERN. It is now, however! I'm content to let others decide which of myself and the Anon in question was shifting the subject, above. And my surname is not Wark.

Anonymous said...

Re, your coarse and unwholesome language, some verses you'd do well to heed, MCE:

Ephesians 4:29
Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.

Jeremiah 23:10
For the land is full of adulterers; For the land mourns because of the curse The pastures of the wilderness have dried up. Their course also is evil And their might is not right.

James 1:26
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is worthless.

Luke 6:45
"The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart.

James 3:9-12
With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the likeness of God; from the same mouth come both blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be this way. Does a fountain send out from the same opening both fresh and bitter water?

Matthew 12:36-37
"But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment. "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

1 Peter 1:15
but like the Holy One who called you, be holy yourselves also in all your behavior...

1 Peter 3:10

Ephesians 5:4
and there must be no filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks.

Hosea 10:4
They speak mere words, With worthless oaths they make covenants; And judgment sprouts like poisonous weeds in the furrows of the field.

Psalm 109:17
He also loved cursing, so it came to him; And he did not delight in blessing, so it was far from him.

Romans 3:13-18

Romans 12:14
Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.

Proverbs 10:31
The mouth of the righteous flows with wisdom, But the perverted tongue will be cut out.

Colossians 3:5-13
Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry. For it is because of these things that the wrath of God will come upon the sons of disobedience, and in them you also once walked, when you were living in them.

Proverbs 15:1
A gentle answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.

Colossians 4:6
Let your speech always be with grace, as though seasoned with salt, so that you will know how you should respond to each person.

Psalm 10:7
His mouth is full of curses and deceit and oppression; Under his tongue is mischief and wickedness.

Anonymous said...

@3:01 AM

Up in the wee hours to get an early crack at insulting somebody aren't you?

I glanced and saw how long your post is, saw your all caps line aimed at Physicist, and skipped it, saying to myself: "I don't need a nap".

You still take the prize for biggest yawn here at What Constance thinks, boring people to pieces with What MCE thinks...

Anonymous said...

Yes, she's a nasty piece of work, isn't she 4:27 PM?! MCE, with her sidekick "Illinois", really takes the prize for 2016 Troll of the Year award ... and she's made nasty start to 2017 too!

Anonymous said...

Dear Constance,

please ban (Mary) Christine Erikson aka Justina from this site. In her last post, right towards the end of this page (in which she attacks and falsely accuses physicist, swearing and cursing) she states all Noah's sons were not fully human, implying Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior must have had nephilim genes via his mother too. This gnostic nonsense of hers is utterly sickening and highly offensive. It may lead the young seeking Jesus Christ astray.

"got nephilim genes? do you love Jesus? do you determine to follow Jesus regardless of contrary thoughts
you might have? stop worrying about your genes. If ONLY Noah was pure human then none of us are
because his sons weren't."

She is once again twisting Holy Scripture. Until she seeks deliverance and truly repents, turning from her living in sin lifestyle,
Please ban her!

Thank you!

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