Saturday, March 07, 2015
MICHIGAN WOMAN LOSES HEALTH CLUB MEMBERSHIP AFTER COMPLAINING ABOUT MALE (TRANSGENDER) IN LADIES' LOCKER ROOM
That just happened to a woman in the usually conservative Michigan city, Midland. Midland is also the home of Dow Chemical. According to an article posted on THE BLAZE, Yvette Cormier was shocked to see a man in the local PLANET FITNESS dressing room. She complained to the management and warned others it was happening.
Was she rewarded for being a good citizen looking out for the safety of women and children using that facility? NO! Her membership in PLANET FITNESS was REVOKED for violating their "no judgment policy."
As reported in the Blaze article and to local TV investigative reporters, this was the response of PLANET FITNESS to the woman's well justified fright:
Cormier said that when she complained to the front desk and later corporate, the gym said they embrace whatever sex a person identifies with — which is sometimes not what they were biologically assigned. The woman, however, kept telling other women about the policy.
Cormier ultimately was informed by a gym representative that her membership had been revoked for violating Planet Fitness’ trademark “no judgement” policy. , , ,
The gym later released a statement saying they are “committed to creating a non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members.”
“Our gender identity non-discrimination policy states that members and guests may use all gym facilities based on their sincere self-reported gender identity,” the statement said. “The manner in which this member expressed her concerns about the policy exhibited behavior that management at the Midland club deemed inappropriate and disruptive to other members, which is a violation of the membership agreement and as a result her membership was cancelled.”No Judgment? I think I would never want to belong to a Health Club such as this where some in management evidently have NO SENSE!
Well, my own gym membership - Silver Sneakers now -- is with LA Fitness. I don't have much gym time, but I guess I will now have to watch carefully. I might be the next politically incorrect victim of this aggressive LGBT nonsense. I wonder -- did any of them ever hear about the 1960's - 1970's virtue called "Discretion" -- not putting your sexual adventures -- whether heterosexual or homosexual in everybody else's face? We might all get along a lot better if that old virtue were restored and human sensitivities, sensibilities, not to mention common decent human morality were respected.
I' still working on Part VII of the HiJacking of Evangelicalism., That article will focus in on Glenn Clark, founder of Camps Farthest Out.
Once you move away from biblical definitions of gender and sexual relations there are no limits and everything goes. This movement is an attack on God and his word.
Some people in your profession, Constance, will make a fortune defending these perversions and setting new legal precedents. Wait until the Supreme Court votes on homosexual marriage in June. It's going to become very difficult for normal people and particularly for those who want to follow the Bible. The recent lawsuits brought against bakeries, florists and property owners who are morally and religious opposed to providing services for homosexual marriage give us a pretty good indication of where things are heading.
If God judged Sodom and Gomorrah....
To the men who feel like women and visa versa, I feel very sorry for them, but they need counseling because it's a denial of reality. They need to find out why they don't accept themselves the way God created them in his image.
a kind of intermediate nobiity, "The most famous Junker was Chancellor Otto von Bismarck."
maybe he is influenced by his family history and is thinking of eventually uniting Europe like Bismarck
united the many states of Germany?
Russia is a great excuse. This also would fit not only a personal family traditional attitude, if it exists,
but the ultimate goal of the Nazis who planned the EU as a fallback measure while expecting the collapse
of Nazi Germany, and those who had a hand in its actual foundation.
It is already terrible and a few righteous have stood up. When it becomes the law of the land we're in trouble. It looks like the majority of the Supreme Court is ready to go along with this.
History shows us that civilizations that become decadent always fall. It's the pride before the fall.
How to respond to defenders of gay kiddie porn on ABC
In reading your link I found this also at Barnhardt.
It's definitely food for thought.
You can complain about both. Evil in its many forms. As for Planet Fitness, I would never seek a membership there. You're better off getting a gym membership in North Korea. At least in North Korea you know you have to conform or else.
Former EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana is set to present the findings of a report titled, More Union in European Defense. The report calls for a new European protection method, which would have “a political and military ability to autonomously conduct intervention operations beyond the EU’s borders.” The report also calls for the establishment of a military EU headquarters in the bloc’s de facto capital, Brussels.
According to the report, a common security policy would bring savings to the bloc’s member states, which altogether spends €190 billion annually to maintain 28 national armies, consisting of roughly 1.5 million service personnel.
Are we still "retired"? Who is really still calling the European shots? Sure wish Herb Peters were still around to bounce this one off on!
Am I shocked? Not in the least. I could not agree more Constance. Too much was set in motion early on by this man to not weigh still as their mentor. he is still high sought after and a big vacuum being created is waiting to be filled so I do not count him out.
Actually, my name is Mark, but lots of people have called me Marko throughout my life, so I've just been using it online for as long as I've had an online presence.
Can you explain what the *current* worry is over the EU having an army? Are they planning to invade someone?
I just don't get it. And yes, I've read Herb's "Recommendation 666", which is quite fascinating. But it still does not raise as much a concern for me as the armies of China and Russia and the rest of the countries who are part of the ongoing Worldwide Socialist Revolution (which in a broad sense includes radical Islam as well), whose creators hobnobbed with, learned from, taught, or are the same as, so many founders of the New Age movement as well. (Fabians, Theosophists, etc, like H.G. Wells, Bertrand Russell, et al....)
Europe, currently, has for all practical purposes already experienced the "first wave" invasion by Islam. Another five years or so, and that invasion will be complete. Or, some other invasion might occur from the East. From that perspective, it's long past due for them to put an army together.
While it is true that Europe is further down the path of corruption and immorality than the US, we all got that way because of an older enemy who planned our demise. So really, there are two enemies - the ones who planned and executed the West's ruin, and those who are in power in the West who are the RESULT of that ruin. Both are evil.
The roots of all that ruin and corruption, of course, can be traced back to our spiritual enemy and the enemy of God - Satan.
To understand completely where I'm coming from, please watch the movie Agenda. I think it's available to rent, or here it is on YouTube, with subtitles, (hopefully you don't find the subtitles too annoying). It encapsulates very well the nature of the calamity upon us. And the one area it needed to investigate further is one that was touched on in the film - namely, the plan to subvert the churches and Christian morality. It is THIS part where the New Age fulfills its role. I'd like to contact the filmmaker and ask him if he'd be willing to do a part two that takes on that topic.
Anyway, the YT link:
Please watch the WHOLE THING before commenting. It really is necessary to see the whole picture.
Christopher Story wrote a book about the EUSSR - a pan-Eurasion union from the Atlantic to Vladivostok. Germany figured prominently in this formation.
autonomously conduct intervention operations beyond the EU’s borders.”
Which means the same people running the show over Europe and USA would still have the equivalent of a NATO force to do "interventions" and not have to worry that Germany will pull out.
Germany was making overtures to Russia and BRICS recently, and earlier was saying it wasn't going to rubber stamp whatever NATO wanted.
"...savings to the bloc’s member states, which altogether spends €190 billion annually to maintain 28 national armies, consisting of roughly 1.5 million service personnel."
Sounds like bait and switch false advertising. Why wouldn't the same cost or more be dragged out of the member nations to support the common army?
Marko, interesting point about that book. The whole thing looks like the theosophical branch of EU-ism is in
conflict with the more sensible trends in Germany, and trying
to gain control complete or closer step to it the unification of europe that Nazis were planning in
expectation of German failure towards
the end of WW II, with the modern German trend to think for itself being a bit in conflict here. the
theosophical thinking is closer to the original Nazi mysticism without the nordic pagan false gods
trappings. the idea of evolution and a superior human to be born of this. Agenda 21 is entrenched in places in Europe, I understand.
I wouldn't be surprised if some support for jihad is secretly coming from all this, to give a good excuse to remove usually darker skinned people from Europe and expulsion of moslems would at some near future point be a necessity, regardless of what hidden agenda is going on.
google stealth jihad for details. The atrocities by these people are covered up in europe by the press a
lot, and the same, with coverup, is beginning here in the USA. Rape is now a major problem in Sweden,
usually by the moslems. Women are dying their hair black and one woman took to walking a pig on a leash to
lessen the danger, where years ago there was no danger.
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What this would mean of course, is not an end to war except that between nation states or federal governments another form of government some advocate that might in fact work in the Middle East but would be a step in the wrong direction almost anywhere else.
It would mean war type actions keeping the peace so to speak inside the global security system. Probably a lot of local purges (read massacre) and other measures to control dissidents.
I can neither ignore the prophecies, nor the obvious symbolism that went in setting up Solana's job in the first place: Section 666 of the Europa code; Recommendation 666 of the WEU (10 nation military federation). For sure, your guess is potentially as good as mine, but there were too many mysteries and obfuscation in the past -- Solana came from out of nowhere in November 1995, after years of being on the USA's subversive list for his organizing anti-USA rallies while involved with the Foreign Students Association while studying in Virginia. He sent Spanish warships against Canada in 1995, but later that same year was again out of nowhere made the new head of NATO.
You might watch the admittedly home made video I made and posted on Youtube -- I made the video in 2006 and just found it on my system last weekend, without realizing the momentous developments that would arise with him this week. There is tremendous anger in England over the proposals for a Pan-European army that would exclude England.
For some strange reason, that makes English folk who remember WWII VERY NERVOUS. I can't imagine why!
As for EU forming military, information I'm hearing is that EU is not very happy with US pushing hard on Ukraine. There are very important economic and energy ties with Russia, especially Germany who is between a rock and hard place with the Greek possibly exiting the euro. Lot of implications here, for economic distress. Wonder if the EU military idea is to quell riots in the streets when the economy falls apart.
Haven't looked at the report yet, but it looks like the NATO/EU relationship might be under pressure. Remember Merkel and Sarkozy negotiate a peace deal over Ukraine and US wants to send weapons which is a clear escalation.
Right now, the negotiations of Greece's debt are very tricky. A default will undoubtedly through the whole European experiment into danger, because other nations have a lot of debt too, like Italy, Spain and Portugal.
The behind the scenes wars in both Ukraine and Syria are about strategic interests. Over and over we are seeing US and Russia and China at odds. The manipulation of all the financial markets is the worst it's ever been with Central banks playing lots of games. If the markets fall, chances are they will fall together because we are all so interdependent, paving the way for the world currency we have anticipated. Economic unrest leads to food shortages and violence and chaos. Just look at Greece.
Our geolocation provider now reads European Union for visitors to your site whom it knows are in the EU, but for whom it cannot determine the country.
The EU stats are separate from a single country stat. For instance, if you have 140 EU views, and 60 views from Spain, you do have 190 views.
My response was, “when exactly was this practice instituted? I don't recall seeing this until just today - that doesn't mean you've not been doing this for a while, just that I've not noticed it. But, I have to say that I'm having difficulty understanding why your geolocator would have more difficulty determining country of origin within EU countries than, say, African or Middle Eastern countries.”
Following my response came this reply:
You're correct - it was a recent change as we worked to spruce up the stats page. Previously, these users wouldn't have been listed in the Country stats.
I don’t know how “recent” this change was made; however, the WordPress site stats show a rolling year, and, when I checked this I saw over 800 EU ‘hits’. Given that this was a “recent change,” does this mean these approx. 750 or so ‘hits’ were added to the previous totals; i.e., does my site stats actually reflect a higher amount than they did before this new EU category was instituted? I have another query up asking this question: “When viewing my year summary I find 800 "European Union" hits. Are you saying these additional 700+/- hits were added to the annual total? That is, am I to understand that had this new practice not been instituted I'd have had 800 less hits over the past (rolling) year?” We’ll see what the response is.
I’m not sure what to make of this.
Looking at my website stats - and I currently don't even have a blog or anything, it's just a static placeholder for now - European Union is 6th on the list at 1%. Top one is India (??) at 54%.
He's a red herring, always has been. I wouldn't even consider him a red herring now because he is so done. He's been done to death over the last 20 years. He is someone to take your eyes off the ball. Always has been.
Not the Benjamin Creme crap AGAIN?
He is an ABSOLUTE joke internationally and is only taken seriously mostly by his weird fans and followers.
He is a nut job and thought to be so globally as just about all his claims are/were RIDICULOUS and WRONG. He has a pathetic track record as being accurate.
He is another one that people are wasting their time in even paying the least bit of attention to him.
Haven't you noticed that we live in a world that suffers fools gladly? (and the power hungry, and the washed up, overly rewarded for failed policies but still a high-minded elitist 'father figure' types too?). Maybe that is the modern way to be a progressive nostalgic or even a nostalgic progressive? ("hasn't the world come so far!")(LoL)
You know---utopian thought.....they want the best of all worlds--kid in a candy store. Has a sick tummy but still must desire and try everything available.
This field is narrowing itself as we speak so give it a little more time. The clear favorite will emerge.
you are only looking at the physical side of things. Creme failed because too many people prayed for God to stop
him, but the coterie of evil spirits claiming to be "ascended masters" and passing themselves off as angels of light when dealing with Christians is still an issue.
The point of the post is a weapon to use against the false manifestations of the hypercharismatics/MSOG/New Apostolic Reformation/modern Apostles and Prophets/etc.
Because this shows who is really back of that stuff. And the Bethel Church of Redding, CA and any derivatives with its "angel" called "emma" supposedly the same one Branham the anti trinitarian had and gold dust showers.
Hardly, and I live there. Most Brits want to quit the EU so we can hardly complain if they federate and then do what all federations do ie set up an army. The real trouble is the attempt to sideline NATO, which kept Western Europe free of the Soviets from 1945 until Moscow blinked. Thank you America!
I totally disagree with you that prayer stopped Benjamin Creme.
I do not discount the power of prayer. It is/was his sheer ridiculous beliefs and really never being accurate at all and the fact that he is a TOTAL nut job.
Anyone that claims to have seen his power of suggestion in person, whether it be one of his followers or someone for investigative purposes, well, have no business being there as the bible warns us to stay away from occultic practices. Even the most dedicated Christians can be subject to suggestion when it comes to the occult.
And although I think his views and practices are satanic, it doesn't mean he's that big of a deal. Satan just uses him to reach a small segment of people when compared globally. And they are usually just as whacked or weird as he is.
How many people have you met or know personally who are really into Creme? Not many. I've been researching for years and have never met anyone into him or VERY FEW that knows who the quack is. Not that many online know who he is other than his followers as most credible people researching gave him a passing glance years ago and that's it. Why? Because he's not someone to be taken too seriously and he is no real danger other than to those who follow him or get to wrapped up into paying attention to what this moron says or does.
Besides, I think the whole "ascended masters" thing is a LOAD of CRAP. I think to even believe in that is occultism itself.
"Besides, I think the whole "ascended masters" thing is a LOAD of CRAP. I think to even believe in that is occultism itself."
Good job pegging the whole of that matter 4:49 PM.
There are some humorous maps of the world according to how various kinds of people, incl. some of ours, think of the world. They don't resemble the real maps.
while believing in "ascended masters" as being "ascended masters" is occultism, believing in the existence of demons who can make nice and will say anything is biblically correct.
"power of prayer" however IS an occultic concept. It is not prayer that has the power, but GOD Who has the
power and prayer is not supposed to be sent to people in need or against trouble, but to God Who is asked to
do something about whatever.
it really doesn't matter if anyone much is into him and his plans, the problem is that IF the world order
were in place (which God has
prevented and hard work has slowed) and IF the religious or lack thereof situation was right for it (which God
has prevented and hard work like Constance's has slowed) THEN you could have some paranormal
manifestations and that wacky creep he worships be presented.
One of ex New Agers become Christian met him and was very underimpressed. But I recall
reading, that when Krishnamurti was sailing to the USA as he came near he felt all his sense of power and
mission as messiah leave. In those days, Christianity was much stronger here, and more people seriously
praying to God about anything (as distinct from "contemplatively" praying.) The
person who referred to this incident, after which Krishnamurti repudiated his messiahhood, but failed to become
Christian, suggested that the strong Christian presence in those days meant a greater presence of The Holy
Spirit and that this "atmosphere" for lack of a better word was what kicked the spirits and/or programming out of him.
I think something like this also has continued to hold back the overt attempt. Meanwhile, though most New
Agers are just into a mindset not the classical theosophic doctrines and might also be underimpressed, that
makes them more vulnerable to influence. Constance has suggested a mass possession event might be
possible, or at least attempted.
But this should be interesting for everyone, incl., sorry Susanna expect more flack, THIS:
Vis a vis that story on Pope Francis and "chip implantation," I just went to the link which now confesses the story was a spoof.
The stories on Hanna, Wyoming, Pope Francis, etc. are satirical fiction.
There are real places that have done it -- but if we pass on fiction as fact, it will be like the little boy who cried wolf! When the real wolf came, nobody believed him.
Let's not pass on such garbage until such time as the garbage becomes real news -- not clever penmanship.
Satire is alright in its place, but let's label it as such.
I even read a while back an interesting critique of Hillsong, and ensuing flood of praise and worship nusic coming from there. Did it (the critique, which wasn't favorable) go too far? Maybe. Maybe not. Time will tell.
Satan's minions can inhabit some pretty innocent-looking things. Even godly-looking things. Learning / having discernment is key. Be as shrewd as snakes, and as innocent as doves.
HILLSONG UNITED CHURCH STEEPED IN ILLUMINATI AND NEW AGE SYMBOLISM
I am in complete agreement with you on The Toronto Blessing and Todd Bentley. If I'm not mistaken, John Arnott is the one who as an "apostle" commissioned Todd Bentley as a "revivalist". They have been very good friends in the past.
Then, why were John and Carol Arnott guests of Pope Francis last year? Along with the likes of Joel Osteen and Kenneth Copeland? It surely wasn't to show them and example or teach them anything.
The pope had no business associating with such scum. Sure, Jesus hung out with tax collectors and prostitutes at times in order to reach them and save their souls. But he did not hang out with religious leaders who had no intention of changing their practices and beliefs as well as continuing to do business as usual.
This is not personally directed at you. Your post about The Toronto Blessing and Todd Bentley reminded me of some issues I have with people like this being warmly welcomed by the pope.
I wish the investigating of these things would be addressed here in a thorough fashion. I don't mean just a quick look only for some to declare that the pope was setting a good example for them because, that is not what he was doing. All one needs to do is research this topic and it becomes painfully obvious.
It would be nice if some around here, and again, not addressing you personally, would not walk on eggshells regarding such issues for fear of offending Susanna or Constance who is a good friend of Catholics lest you be persecuted as a "catholic basher".
The catholic issues that really need exposing are not the ones exposed here. The few that have been addressed are ones that you can easily Google with a few keystrokes and receive a large number of hits. These are obvious and relatively easy to find.
If we can talk about The Toronto Blessing and Todd Bentley and how they are false teachers then, we should surely be able to discuss why the pope was/is communing with them.
Cliff Kincaid has been hammering on him rather relentlessly, as if the Pope were some evil Marxist with nefarious plans for the church.
In my opinion, esp. after listening to Olavo de Carvalho last night in an interview with Cliff, it's more a case of Pope Francis just not being very bright, and having a desire to achieve something great for God. There is nothing inherently wrong with either of those things, and the second one is a commendable thing - one every church leader should have, in fact.
But in combination, they can make you susceptible to manipulation, which is, I think, what is happening.
The high levels of the Vatican have fro quite some time, I believe, been infiltrated by enemies of the Church. Last night Olavo said, and it makes sense: Pope Benedict XVI resigned pretty much because he felt like a "prisoner" within the walls of the Vatican, and this was because he was unable to fulfill what he saw as his mission. He was unable to do so because of how much the Vatican had been infiltrated, and the infiltrators kept his hands tied, so to speak.
So essentially, I don't see Pope Benedict as some master evil planner, trying to round up all these various false teachers, etc, under a "one world religion" umbrella. He just wants to make a name for himself, and really has no idea (yet) of the nature and expanse of the struggle he has become a part of.
That's my take currently. Events and history may show that take to be incorrect. It probably is. I don't spend lots of time studying the Vatican. But there have been plenty of warnings about what is going on. A book I've been wanting to read for a long while, and haven't yet, is "The Keys of This Blood" by Malachi Martin. I think it would explain a lot.
BTW, Olavo's website (which is actually a group of thinkers and writers) is:
An excellent resource it is! I've not been there in a while, and it looks much better than it used to be.
And the Bible says this is what to being looking for because Christ and His Gospel message are thrown under the bus in favor of kingdom building that is man-made because man-centered, and designed to achieve a humanistic (though "Christian/Religious flavored") end. It is anathema and we must call it such.
This is why, to see the "bigger picture" of what is happening, the New Age is a just a *part* of it all. To try and fit everything going on as "part of the New Age Movement" just doesn't work.
The New Agers have their plans and people of influence, just like the Marxists/Socialists have their plans and people, and the elites have their plans and people, and perhaps there are other groups and subgroups that can be defined as well. They all intermix and intertwine at various points, and all flow from a hatred of Christianity and God, and all are wanting to build "heaven on earth" by human methods.
I would reiterate something I've said before: THERE IS NO "TOP DOG" GROUP THAT CONTROLS IT ALL.
In de Carvalho's interview last night, he talked about the Sao Paulo Forum, started c. 1990, whereby a bunch of bad people were brought together, some of whom didn't get along with each other, but decided to put their differences aside in their hatred of America, Israel and the West.
This is what we face - multiple threats on multiple fronts.
I am looking into the Olavo thing now. Dugin bothers me because, IF my information is correct, he belongs in the "national bolshevist" camp which
has its origins in some satanists in the USA in the 1980s, though what form it takes in his case is open to question. Third Position its also
called, and often racist. One Third Positionist leader however purged a lot of satanists and racists from his group, though what his own secret
inclinations are is anyone's guess and he spent too much time getting himself locked up for one thing or another to clarify much.
The affinity between the charismatics and RC is partly the groundwork laid decades ago, when the pentecostal thing reinvented itself as "charismatic" and jumped denominational boundaries. And partly the "contemplative prayer" and "lectio divina" soaking in Scripture to get into a mood sort of thing. these are credited to The Desert Fathers, but THIS IS FALSE. They did not do this. For them contemplative prayer was to contemplate and focus on Scripture and Jesus Christ while working or whatever, and lectio divina was reading Scripture in order to put it into practice.
What is called these things now was developed in the medieval monasteries, in an overreaction to the sterile rationalistic scholasticism, more recently got imported into protestantism and now is going full circle.
Another big problem is Jerome's mistranslation of Genesis 3:15 as having the woman instead of her seed crush the serpent's head. Neither the Septuagint or the Masoretic say this. It laid the groundwork for the whole marian scene now.
NEVER DO THE VISIONARIES TEST THE SPIRITS. The closest thing to this was when a child threw holy water at "the virgin mary" who seemed mildly pleased. But Fr. Gabriele Amorth says that not all demons back off to holy water, though all or most will to blessed oil of exorcism. Pope John Paul II was getting visits from Jesus and Mary. A leaked account included a time sensitive prophecy that didn't come to pass.
These visions get going long after the contemplative prayer and visualization in prayer got standard, though the usual visionary outside of a monastery or convent wasn't doing this, but they occurred in places already with a reputation for haunting.
Before Jesus opened the way to heaven, the angel Gabriel had to fight contrary angels to get to Daniel, but when he arrived he was THERE he didn't need to build up over days or hours to a solid manifestation like he needed to get power from the environment or people.
YOU DON'T HEAR OF LOCUTIONS IN THE BIBLE, more likely in contemplatives. This is where instead of hearing words, you FEEL them in your body. Someone human did this to me once, I told him to quit it. (never mind if it requires demon involvement to do this, the point is, you don't need to be a demon or the Virgin Mary or Jesus to do this.) THESE PEOPLE JUST ASSUME THAT IF SOMETHING ISN'T OBVIOUSLY DEMONIC IN APPEARANCE AND CROPS UP IN A CONVENT IT IS JESUS OR MARY.
Locutions, automatic writing, longwinded lectures, stages of manifestation, these are typical of two things:
occult manifestations, and Roman Catholic mysticism.
An Orthodox writer observed that most of Roman Catholic mysticism is loaded with symptoms of prelest (Russian) aka plani (Greek) which is SPIRITUAL DECEPTION. This is a large concept, ranging from personal self deception to demonic deception to possession. Mostly the latter two.
An Orthodox priest was visited by a monk from Athos, who told him of visions and visitations he was having and that he prayed using visualization or mental imagery, and other monks did also. The priest was horrified but just told him to pray without mental pictures. Having done so for a while, the monk reported he no longer had the visions or visitations. Whether these were delusions, or demons making use of something he was generating by doing these visualizations is anyone's guess.
on his return from the USA. apparently it struck a note in some people I noticed when digging into some odd history in CA.
Oddly enough ( I am not sure anything is odd enough for this political category) national bolshevism was
highly anti Putin almost to the present time. Or at least Limonov is, and he seems to have been on the wrong side of just about everything.
So maybe that says something good about Putin.
Limonov got in trouble trying to raise some revolutionary army in Kazakhstan, although the plan of a grand Eurasian empire is supposed to have Russia at the helm. The bio reads as ludicrous as information on the American Front and Boyd Rice before he decided was descended from Jesus Christ via the Merovingian king Dagobert (ergo I suppose eligible for the throne of any country that would have him though I don't recall this being an issue maybe it is a self image issue) and similar Third Position operations in the US. American Front was the group that a later leader purged of satanist and racist riffraff when he took time out from getting sent to prison to manage the organization.
And he is Putin's close advisor, so maybe that says something bad about Putin.
interesting debate between Olavo and Dugin, I haven't got near done reading it yet but it has some interesting stuff.
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I hope all is well with you -- Massachusetts suffered greatly this past winter.
Somebody once from Seattle who watched me speak at Seattle University in early November 1983 (she now lives in Montana) sent me a video of a Brother Michael Dimond. Some of his material is compelling on the DVD disk she sent. I know you mentioned him in the past as a sedavacantist, but some of his material on defense of Creation, divinity of Christ, Jesus as the ONLY Christ, is the best I have seen anywhere sofar, even from Creation Scientists, many of whose work I respect.
The Southern Poverty Law Center has condemned him. I take many of their positions almost as a reverse indicator. Beyond racism and groups like Aryan Nations, which I also condemn, they have condemned almost every decent person standing for traditional sexual morality and against abortion.
It's been some time since you mentioned him on this site -- have you reviewed all of his work -- are there items worthy of consideration by Catholics and Protestants alike?
I value your opinion.
There are allegations of pedophilia against the SPLC boss and if he is a homosexual it would explain a lot. It may be that he only went after the high profile racist sorts because they usually oppose abortion (at least for
white women, want to increase white population) and homosexuality (at least the effeminate sort). From there after estabishing his good reputation for bankrupting the White Aryan Resistance by a lawsuit, he went on to tackle conservatives of all sorts.
Thank you for your concern about my well-being.
All is well here, but I have had a lot going on lately - and have not been able to spend as much time online as I would like.
To reply to your inquiry, Michael Dimond is, as you know, head of a sedevacantist organization known as Most Holy Family Monastery.
Although he is outwardly very pious, probably believes most of what he says and seems to want everyone to believe that he is "more Catholic than the Pope," neither Michael ( a.k.a. Frederick) nor his brother, Peter ( a.k.a. Robert ) are even real Benedictine monks.
Michael may call himself a "Benedictine monk," but he is a "Benedictine monk" of his own devising.
In fact, this inconvenient little truth was what led to their being sued by a man named Eric Hoyle who entered the monastery expecting to become a Benedictine monk and turned about everything he had over to the monastery - to the tune of about $1.6 million.
He then reportedly learned that the Dimonds were not authentic members of the Order of St. Benedict - which meant that he could not become an authentic member of the Order of St. Benedict if he continued his "novitiate" at that monastery.
Another thing to note is that when Michael is not bashing the post Vatican II Popes, he is bashing Protestants.
His attitude towards Protestants is redolent of that of the late Father Leonard Sweeney, who, as you know, was excommunicated.
I would say that this is something worth being considered by Catholics and Protestants alike.
But don't take my word. Check out some of the charming titles on the Holy Family Monastery webpage.
You are absolutely right. Dugin is bad news. In fact, it looks to me like Dugin is to Putin what Josef Goebbels was to Hitler.
There's something familiar about this:
Long-term plans for the creation of a joint European Union force have been tabled that backers say could lead to more efficient defense spending and greater military integration between the bloc's 28 member nations.
Europe's response to Russian aggression and ISIS terror has been shaped in part by budget cuts as governments tackle huge deficits in the wake of the 2008 credit crisis.
Analysts argue that a shift to collective defense would allow NATO states in Europe to defend members even if the United States is preoccupied with other conflicts or unwilling to act.
"Europe must accept that the world regards the E.U. as more than just an economic union," Raimund Kirch, editor in chief of the Nürnberger Zeitung, wrote in an editorial. "Therefore, it must develop an independent moral and military power, in order to survive between the bi-polar forces."
It's like I've seen these words before...hmmm.
Stefan Soesanto, of the RAND research institute in Brussels, argues for an "enhanced interoperability among European soldiers" which in the long term could also lead to more independence from American dominance within NATO.
He wrote in a recent analysis that if "10-25 per cent of the armed forces [in Europe] were to comprise soldiers from other NATO members, the continent could turn itself into the proverbial fortress of Europe, and be able to naturally create the building blocks for multinational divisions, brigades, and battalions, to emerge under NATO command."
The neo-Eurasianism being embraced by Vladimir Putin and Alexander Dugin is what is behind the Ukrainian situation because without Ukraine, there can be no Eurasian Union.
The Eurasian Union is being organized as a rival to the European Union. This may be why Europeans are suggesting a Pan European military force. The exclusion of the UK is interesting. In keeping with Alexander Dugin's neo-Eurasian scenario the next big global conflict will be continental between the "Eurasists" and the "Atlantists" which includes the Unites States and the UK.
To quote Dugin:
Order of Eurasia against Order of Atlantic (Atlantides).
Eternal Rome against Eternal Carthago.
Occult punic war invisibly continuing during millennia.
Planetary conspiracy of Land against the Sea, Earth against Water, Authoritarianism and Idea against Democracy and Matter.
Dugin is incorporating a "Traditionalist" New Age spin into his neo-Eurasianism and seeks to make the Moscow Patriarchate the latest vehicle for the propagation of this Traditionalism and its New Age Perennialist philosophy.
THE EURASIANIST THREAT
"Somewhere toward the end of this year people should see the beginning of a change in various areas of the world. What has been seen as harmful will in the end be seen as beneficial."
This was given by "The Master" through Creme (sounds like someone is watching too much Doctor Who). Anyway, does this really mean anything? So much that comes out of Creme is like that of a fortune cookie--it could mean anything. What type of change? Isn't there always a change going on somewhere in the world?
I don't know but pay attention. It might be something.
DUGIN'S EVIL THEOLOGY
Scroll down to the Q&A section. Apparently, Maitreya is now in the Middle East working out peace with different religious communities.
This is from the Washington Examiner:
Aleksandr Dugin's Eurasianism is the volatile theory behind Vladimir Putin's drive into Ukraine
By Mark Tapscott | March 3, 2014
whatever exploitation of the situation might be being made by anyone Dugin included, the NATO encroachement over the decades is what is behind it. The conditions for reset included none of this happening,
this has been denied by NATO etc. but recent exposure of some documents or recordings whatever or admissions of individuals involved in these reassurances given to Russia shows that this gentleman's agreement did exist, and was what made the end of the Cold War possible.
These agreements have been violated.
Dugin is probably someone that Putin keeps on a long chain, useful for some insights but nothing to go whole hog over to.
IF there is a New Age agenda in the Eurasian Union, and the Ukraine thing, it is being pursued by creating the provocative conditions that will result in a push for this.
Frankly, I think a kind of blind westernism that causes people to go into a trance is involved in this concern over a rival to the EU. First you guys worry the EU is the predecessor to the antichrist, now instead of being glad to see a rival to its power and that of the NWO and banksters who run it (most of whom are not Jewish) you get upset. Why?
As for New Age influences out there, let's Americans look in the mirror.
BTW I ran into this interesting angle on the Vereide thing. Seems before evangelicalism was hijacked obviously, part of the focus on Christianity in Americanism was a play to prevent reforms that were consistent with biblical ideas, even if not from such. to equate Christianity with greed and elitism.
Vereide played a big role.
not to mention the near endemic pop occultism which many here are probably unaware of, but I have known about it most of my life for instance, the prevalence of dowsers in use to find water to dig wells by farmers, astrology, palm reading, and assorted eager interest in Indian medicine men and anything exotic. http://www.amazon.com/Power-Quest--Book-One-Obsession-Paranormal/dp/1460907426/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1426481528&sr=8-5&keywords=america+occult+power is a good source on this.
The IMF and so forth do nothing but loot and the BRICS effort to do without it and the euro american scene which is run by it and is its host is a good thing. The partners in it may not be ideal people. Neither are the people involved in the western coalitions. For a look at how cynically amoral the US could get in paranoia about communism, look at this.
I forget the name of the book but at the end of WW II two options were on the table regarding Russian communism: rollback (continue the war with them as target) or containment. elegant subhumans like Kennan and others pushed for the latter, and the reason of course was that it gave all kind of room for maneuvering, making money, having adventures at the expense of the people over whose heads the adventures were conducted, and so forth.
While attacking and occupying Russia is never a good idea, if your troops aren't raised in such an environment, driving them out of eastern europe would have been another matter.
Thanks for the information on Michael Dimond. Some of his material on proofs of Biblical truth are excellent in my opinion - maybe he should specialize in that area.
I had found the pleadings on the Hoyle lawsuit last night. It looked like the lawsuit was dismissed -- the judge said the webpages had given ample notice that the "monastery" was not connected with official Catholic orders.
I always find it disturbing when people turn over large sums of moneys to various sects and cults -- that was going on with THE BIBLE SPEAKS in Lenox, Massachusetts. One of the J. L. Hudson heirs eventually recovered some of the $7 million she donated there in a judgment.
I haven't yet ascertained if there were further proceedings in the Hoyle suit, but I certainly found that interesting -- and disturbing.
If you can't see the HEAVY New Age, World Federalist, NWO, Theosophical influences on the European Union operations, particularly as headed by Solana in the past (and apparently now back in the saddle again - he boasted in past he knew how to make himself invisible when necessary) -- you haven't been looking or else are not very well informed.
Something is seriously wrong when such extreme monetary offerings are requested or accepted. In any case, since he quit his novitiate he should be eligible to have his money returned. Maybe this should be another issued raised in a refile.
why be upset when there is a rival power opposed to it, especially since the EU is New Age? Even if the rival power is New Age influenced, its just as well if these people fight among themselves.
seems to be connected to a copy of C. S. Lewis The Abolition of Man
he seems to be publishing a lot of stuff on google books
http://books.google.com/books/about/Studies_in_Domestic_Violence.html?id=orA9BAAAQBAJ click on Aubrey Durkin name and you get some similar, so may be the same as this person http://aubreydurkin.hubpages.com/
just put the cursor before what you want to copy, right click and hold while you move over the link info, it will highlight, then release hold and position cursor in highlight and right click to get a menu, click on copy and then go to the URL line you fill in in a blank tab or new page and put cursor there, right click and chose paste.
Facebook link on the hub pare goes to https://www.facebook.com/alderaan20?_rdr
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That's the vision pharma tycoon and futurist Martine Rothblatt shared Sunday with several thousand attendees during one of the more popular events of Day 3 of SXSW Interactive.
"There will be continued advances in software that we see throughout our entire life," Rothblatt told a packed audience in the cavernous Exhibit Hall 5 during her keynote speech. "Eventually, these advances in software will rise to the level of consciousness."
Rothblatt is the founder of Sirius Satellite Radio, current chief executive of United Therapeutics and was recently named by Forbes as the highest-paid female CEO in America. She is a transgender activist and a trans-humanist philosopher who believes technology will one day grant humans eternal life.
At the keynote, Rothblatt described how the inevitable emergence of cyber consciousness – when machines act with a sophistication and thought level equal to that of humans – will not be overnight but a more subtle evolution.
"Every company will try to out-Siri Siri until we have consciousness," she said, referring to the Apple/iOS application that works as a personal assistant and navigator. "It will be like water that rises and rises and rises and, before we know it, we're in an ocean of cyber consciousness."
Artificial intelligence and robotics have been key – and controversial – themes at this year's SXSW. A slew of panel discussions and keynote speeches on the topic have drawn thousands of attendees, while films screening at the film festival portion of SXSW, such as Ex Machina and Creative Control, have addressed it in their plot lines.
The themes have also prompted protests outside the conference warning of an over-reliance on artificial intelligence to the detriment of humans. In one, a group of protestors held signs reading "Stop the Robots" while chanting "A-I Say Goodbye!"
Rothblatt said robots and humans don't have to choose sides – such as in the plotlines seen in popular Hollywood movies – but will live in a peaceful co-existence that will make them virtually indistinguishable from one another.
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You are correct. The judge dismissed the case and Michael Dimond has been gloating about his victory ever since. Like you, I also find the Hoyle case disturbing. And even if Michael is a snake-oily con artist, it doesn't sound like Hoyle is exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, does it?
Another interesting tidbit is the little dust up which occurred at the Most Holy Family Monastery in the 1990's when one of the members began to claim that he is one of the two witnesses ( he didn't say which ) mentioned in the Book of Revelations.
Since it is still raining and snowing up here, I am guessing it must have been Henoch. :-)
The person who sued The BIBLE SPEAKS founded by Carl Stevens was Elizabeth Dovydenas.
After the judge ruled in favor of Elizabeth Dovydenas, The Bible Speaks
declared bankruptcy, lost its property in Lenox, Massachusetts and and relocated to Baltimore.
I ran a search and found the followingon a woman
named Aubrey Durkin at Hubpages.
Joined 6 months ago from Tucson, Arizona
Hello! My name is Aubrey and I am pursuing my Masters in Forensic Psychology. I hold a Bachelors of Science in Biomedical Technology. I am researching alternative income options and sharing my experiences with you. I have a total of four blogs to date on WriterTown, Hub Pages BlogSpot. Topics range from Forensic Psychology, alternative income methods, and travel. I will continue to submit content. Enjoy!
Scroll down to the articles, one of which is entitled:
Amazon Trick to Move Inventory
Another article is entitled:
5 Pros and Cons of Publishing Public Domain Content
Click onto the titles to read the articles.
I hope this helps.
I was able to get to the archive site, and access all the various versions of your book for free.
Try again and see if it's OK? Maybe your browser was just being temperamental.
There was a PDF, a zipped copy of the PDF, a dejavu version, and epub.
It's straightened out because I sent messages and left phone messages telling Internet Archives that I was the sole copyright holder of the material and it was on their site with my blessings. I left similar messages with Google Play. People are free to copy it, quote from it, reproduce it for their friends, burn disks, etc., but there is to be NO EDITING and NO SALE FOR PROFIT. Somebody else had published it without my prior consent and had placed restrictions on it. To do that they had to sign an affidavit with Google that they had rights -- which they did not. I reluctantly had to set the record straight, just as I had to do with Amazon Kindle a few months ago. Amazon's legal department would not give me the name of the person who violated by copyright by placing it there. Amazon is encouraging me to get it there myself under my own contract with them and if I ever get a break, I'll do that. I rather suspect it was the same person publishing on Amazon and Google because the publisher's Facebook and other pages indicated she was into "cheap Kindle books". At any rate, it's back up now for the free downloading. I left my phone number for the person publishing ("Aubrey Durkin") per my Google Receipt for the $1.05 I had to spend to buy my own book on line, but it was worth it to learn what had happened. I wish Ms. Durkin would call me -- maybe something could have been worked out in terms of a non-exclusive license, but I've never heard from her to the best of my present knowledge.\
Didn't a certain very pushy someone recently start a website without your consent which you subsequently told her to remove, which she said she did, but which, I'm thinking, may have had links to purchase your works, which may have still been dangling out there in cyberspace?
firstly, Dorothy suggested that with all the arguing and clutter there should be a collection made of the research links posted here, which get buried in the verbiage. And not just mine either.
secondly, I started such a collection, with some of the comments that seemed informative. I thought I had it stashed as private since it was unfinished. Somehow it wasn't, and it was commented on here. Constance asked about it, but did not ask it be taken down. I OFFERED TO DO SO IF SHE WANTED ME TO, BUT SHE DID NOT ANSWER ME, so I did nothing. I DID NOT SAY I HAD DONE SO.
There was a facebook page started by me to further interest in her work, about Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow which incl. a pdf FREE copy. This I subsequently converted so she is the SOLE ADMINISTRATOR.
There are no links on either to anything to buy unless there is a research link someone posted to a book NOT BY HER on amazon.com I don't recall if there is such or not. I doubt it.
As for pushy you people should look in the mirror.
You are being deposed as blog sheriff and chief interrogator, having your rear-end handed to you, so kindly post your links and cease the forcefulness with anyone and any topic.
If you don't the consequence will be on you.
what links are you talking about, the collection from the start of this blog through AD 2007? I never got farther than that, a few things worth looking at again many links dead and I had to redo them with archive.org.
An interesting analysis by Shirvan on youtube Caspian Report explains the Russian mentality based in centuries of experience, that taught them they have to have a buffer zone. This is probably more of a driver to the Eurasian Union than any mysticism is.
Your reign is over.
Your abuses are legend and now monitored by Constance herself for deletion if need be. (thanks Constance!)
So consider it grace that you are not excused from here.
You've been told to post your links, contribute and keep it pithy and pertinent.
Stop the bellyaching about others and make sure you have cleaned up your own act.
That is what you got your rear-end handed to you for.
Hopefully all this you've done is now the past.
The New Age Movement (under whatever current monikers used) could well be described as the granddaddy of cults. It is not a single movement -- it is a "movement of movements". It is the only movement out there that is actively working through its core leaders for "The Reappearance of the Christ" -- a "Christ" they cheerfully admit is not Jesus. There were so many dedicated attempts to put the Christian world to sleep on the issue -- and when push came to shove, the attempts were obviously coming from traceable New Age groups providing funding and influence themselves, e.g. Institute of Noetic Sciences (interlocking directorate with Fellowship Foundation, Doe Coe & Company, Washington, D.C.); Unification Church (interlocking funding with Tim LaHaye operations, Jerry Falwell operations) -- World Future Society and Congressional Clearinghouse for the Future, etc., ad nauseum. Clearly the worldwide Occupy Movement is traceable in funding and goals to New Age sources, e.g. the TIDES FOUNDATION.
We haven't heard much from Dorothy Margraf recently, but she was correct when she said the New Age Movement surrounded us virtually like water.
The Environmental Movement is nearly totally controlled by New Age sources -- the "Evangelical Environmental" movements are so thinly disguised New Age fronts infiltrating and compromising the Church into Earth Worship as to be a joke.
Yes, there are other elements, forces, and motives out there, but in my opinion the New Age Movement (far bigger and badder than Walter Martin & Company deemed fit to tell you) is the Mothership of most.
"While Dugin is not irrelevant, his star at the Kremlin actually faded a decade ago, though he gets some Kremlin attention because his father was a GRU general. Far more important to divining Putin’s worldview, however, is Ivan Ilyin, a Russian political and religious thinker who fled the Bolsheviks and died an emigre in Switzerland in 1953. In exile, Ilyin espoused ethnic-religious neo-traditionalism, amidst much talk about a unique “Russian soul.” Germanely, he believed that Russia would recover from the Bolshevik nightmare and rediscover itself, first spiritually then politically, thereby saving the world.
Putin’s admiration for Ilyin is unconcealed: he has mentioned him in several major speeches and he had his body repatriated and buried at the famous Donskoy monastery with fanfare in 2005; Putin personally paid for a new headstone. Yet despite the fact that even Kremlin outlets note the importance of Ilyin to Putin’s worldview, not many Westerners have noticed."
It might be real interesting what comes of this meeting.
Re:Yes, there are other elements, forces, and motives out there, but in my opinion the New Age Movement (far bigger and badder than Walter Martin & Company deemed fit to tell you) is the Mothership of most.,
It is the veritable "Rick's Café" (recall Casablanca) of Gnosticism and occultism.
I KID YOU NOT!!! LOL
Marko, who happens to be a friend of mine - one with whom I occasionally correspond, knows that he doesn't have to "walk on eggshells" or worry in the least about offending me if he voices his concerns about things having to do with the Pope or with the Catholic Church. He also knows that I do not have to own his opinion as a condition of friendship.
For my part, I do not believe that Mark is a Catholic basher or a Pope basher just for voicing his concerns.
The problem with people here who do not know me outside of this blog and are not my personal friends (and I don't mean this in any pejorative sense) and who, unlike Mark and a few others, do not know anything about how I think or where I am coming from, is that they seem overly quick to assume that whenever I challenge and/or correct certain insinuations and allegations made against the Pope, it is because I am personally "offended."
Let me set the record straight right here that it is not because I am personally offended.
It is because the people making such comments do not ordinarily back them up with the kind of evidence that would stand up in a court of law.
Moreover, to make comments to the effect that the Pope "doesn't have any business" keeping company with whomever he chooses is downright laughable.
I wonder what these same people would say of Our Lord if He were walking amongst us today eating and talking with "sinners?"
Would they say, "Crucify him????"
Re: In my opinion, esp. after listening to Olavo de Carvalho last night in an interview with Cliff, it's more a case of Pope Francis just not being very bright, and having a desire to achieve something great for God. There is nothing inherently wrong with either of those things, and the second one is a commendable thing - one every church leader should have, in fact.
I am not always in agreement with Cliff Kincaid, but to give credit where credit is due, he has written some stellar articles and I do think he means well.
After reading what you said about the Carvalho interview, I must say that I don't think it is so much a matter of Pope Francis not being very bright as it is his not being able to speak English.
There have already been several occasions where things he has said have been outright mistranslated. And as Pope Emeritus Pope Benedict XVI once said in THE RATZINGER REPORT: "A translation is also an interpretation."
Pope Francis' "preferential option for the poor" does not make him a Marxist. And anyone who thinks it does really needs to go and reread the Gospels.
We must never forget that it was the Marxists who hijacked this teaching from Christianity vis a vis Liberation Theology which Pope Francis did battle with as Jesuit Provincial in Argentina.
He was virtually sent into exile by the Argentinian Jesuits in revenge after his term as their provincial was over and he would have likely remained there had it not been for Pope John Paul II who summoned him from his exile in an obscure little village and made him Bishop, then Archbishop and finally Cardinal of Buenos Aires, Argentina.
The hypocritical Marxist rhetoric about "the poor" when tricked out in "Christian" terminology ( a la Antonio Gramsci) can be made to appear convincingly albeit superficially "Christian," but in practice, it does not translate into a voluntary and charitable "sharing of the wealth" among the poor.
This is because Socialism is not about voluntarily and charitably "sharing the wealth" with the poor. Socialism is about coercively CONTROLLING THE WEALTH and doling it out only to those who are willing to sell their consciences for bread (a.k.a. "toe the party line.")
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Said Constance Cumbey. Hahahah As she allowed Mary Erickson to rule her blog comment section, hahahah. It's like and alcoholic in denial. Too funny and how absurd...
Age holiday "Earth Day."
Here is a link that works and when I get back from Court, I'll try to fix it for all. This is a link for the .pdf version:
Thanks for the alert!
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Brothers and Sisters, this is my story on how i successfully became a member of Illuminati. My name is Philip Robin, i live in Texas USA. Few years ago i lost my parents to a car accident and my mom was very ill after the death of my dad. Taking her to the hospital was hell for me because we were poor so i begin to grave for wealth and power because money rules the world.
This prompted me to look for a society and join where i can get wealth, power and fame so i meant a friend who said he read about a post on a blog online on how to become a member of the great Illuminati so i was very interested, and i collected the contact details of the agent from my friend but behold it was a scam. I got another contact from my girlfriend i contacted, and i made some payment for my initiation, But behold again it was a scam i lost thousands of $$$ to these fake agent who pretended to help people become a member of this great cult. So i lost focus and interest in becoming a member because i don't know if the nest agent i would be introduced to will also be a scam. So on a very good day i meant with my cousin who told me that his best friend have successfully become a member of the brotherhood, so i was very interested and i begged him for the contact of his friend. So he gave me his friend's contact and i contacted his friend and explained myself to him so he promised to help me. He introduced me to agent Thompson Mark who is incharge of the Illuminati recruitment in USA. so i emailed agent Thompson Mark on firstname.lastname@example.org and he replied me requesting for some of my information but i was afraid at this stage because i thought he would ask me to pay some money again, and off cause i was not having anymore money to pay. But i was very surprised when he told me that i don't have to pay a dine to become a member of the great brotherhood of Illuminati so i was curious to know more and he explained all to me that those who live in USA don't pay to become a member except those who live overseas i.e outside USA so in a hurry i did all that was required and i was initiated into the brotherhood. as i speak with you i am a confirm member of the brotherhood of Illuminati and i am very wealthy now and famous. So i bring the good news to you all. if you are in USA please you don't pay a dine to become a member but outside USA, you might be requested to pay some fee. so if you are interested and want to become a true member without being scammed in a hurry contact agent Thompson Mark on this email: email@example.com and if you are outside the USA contact the international agent with either call or whatsApp on +2349024338906 GREAT BROTHERHOOD! GREAT ILLUMINATI.
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