Tuesday, December 02, 2014

GLOBAL INFRASTRUCTURE INITIATIVE

UPDATE:  Even earlier than Solana's Novenber 29th article, the White House issued a statement on November 11, 2011 praising the Global Infrastructure Initiative   You may read it by clicking on this tinyurl link

Did you know there is now a new global governance type initiative?  It is called the GLOBAL INFRASTRUCTURE INITIATVE?  Javier Solana reported as a global sign of hope in his November 29th Project Syndicate article.  The link supplied in his article is bad, but here is a good link to that Initiative.  The project is projecting a required investment of $3 Trillion US dollars equivalent ANNUALLY.  Query, how will that amount, should their initiative be "successful" be raised?  Do you see any way out besides a global tax?  I don't!

The leadership looks like a combination of governmental and big business allies.  They undoubtedly had a lovely meeting in a posh Rio de Janeiro setting last May, 2014.  The event was "by invitation only."  GLOBAL INFRASTRUCTURE INITIATIVE


According to Javier Solana, the GLOBAL INFRASTRUCTURE INITIATIVE will "will create a Global Infrastructure Hub to serve as a knowledge-sharing platform for governments, the private sector, development banks, and international organizations. . . ."


McKinsey & Company, the consultant/organizer, of the event is a player in another "globalization" scheme:  "the internet of things."  In 2010 their Quarterly publication posited the advantages of accelerated interconnectedness:

The Internet of Things
 More objects are becoming embedded with sensors and gaining the ability to communicate. The resulting information networks promise to create new business models, improve business processes, and reduce costs and risks.
March 2010 | byMichael Chui, Markus Löffler, and Roger RobertsIn most organizations, information travels along familiar routes. Proprietary information is lodged in databases and analyzed in reports and then rises up the management chain. Information also originates externally—gathered from public sources, harvested from the Internet, or purchased from information suppliers.
But the predictable pathways of information are changing: the physical world itself is becoming a type of information system. In what’s called the Internet of Things, sensors and actuators embedded in physical objects—from roadways to pacemakers—are linked through wired and wireless networks, often using the same Internet Protocol (IP) that connects the Internet. These networks churn out huge volumes of data that flow to computers for analysis. When objects can both sense the environment and communicate, they become tools for understanding complexity and responding to it swiftly. What’s revolutionary in all this is that these physical information systems are now beginning to be deployed, and some of them even work largely without human intervention.
Pill-shaped microcameras already traverse the human digestive tract and send back thousands of images to pinpoint sources of illness. Precision farming equipment with wireless links to data collected from remote satellites and ground sensors can take into account crop conditions and adjust the way each individual part of a field is farmed—for instance, by spreading extra fertilizer on areas that need more nutrients. Billboards in Japan peer back at passersby, assessing how they fit consumer profiles, and instantly change displayed messages based on those assessments.
McKinsey & Company get around.  According to Huffington Post, even the Vatican has engaged them as a consultant.

Cognizant Reports has issued an on line available report on the "Internet of Things".  You may obtain it from clicking here.

McKinsey & Company claims an alumni of upwards of 30,000 networked throughout the world.  Not bad for a company started by accountants in Chicago, Illinois in 1926 -- at the time that the world was being prepared for a "messianic" figure named Jiddhu Krishnamurti -- a dream that did not pan out for the Theosophists and their fellow travelers.  I do not yet know for certain if there were connections between the various occult networks and this firm, but I do know that many of their aims, proposed methods, and aspirations are the same.  McKinsey & Company is BIG and as their website proudly proclaims:

When James O. McKinsey founded McKinsey in 1926, he could not have imagined the reach his small firm would eventually have. Eighty-five years later, the firm has grown into a global partnership serving two-thirdof the Fortune 1000.
According to a Wikipedia article on the business, it has a highly secretive culture that is "almost like a religion" among its members and adherents:

A 1993 profile story in Fortune Magazine said McKinsey & Company was “the most well-known, most secretive, most high-priced, most prestigious, most consistently successful, most envied, most trusted, most disliked management consulting firm on earth.”[20] According to BusinessWeek the firm is "ridiculed, reviled, or revered depending on one's perspective."[68]McKinsey's culture has often been compared to religion, because of the influence, loyalty and zeal of its members.[56][62] Fortune Magazine said partners talk to each other with "a sense of personal affection and admiration."[20] An article in The News Observer said McKinsey's internal culture was "collegiate and ruthlessly competitive" and is sometimes described as arrogant.[55] The Wall Street Journal said McKinsey is seen as “elite, loyal and secretive.”[58] According to Reuters it has a "button-down culture" focused on “playing by the rules”.[69] According to BusinessWeek, “some observers” say that McKinsey has started to lose touch with its founding principles and become less personal as its size has increased.[44] The Guardian said at McKinsey “hours are long, expectations high and failure not acceptable.”[65] Fortune and USA Today both noted that the majority of McKinsey's consultants are white men.[20][63]

Well, I've just learned and plan to study more about this significant globalization initiative which might well ultimately affect both our pocketbooks and freedoms.   It decidedly is "on the move" while we seem to focus on "news" more often bordering on soap operas.  I'm keeping a wary eye on it.  You should too.

Stay tuned!

CONSTANCE

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Anonymous said...

Craig,

I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm saying simply that if they are using demographics then their figures are wrong, whereas if they are claiming to predict future political events having a bearing on population then they can't know.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

census projections are based I think on nothing but population and reproduction rates. I don't think they take into account
projected war, famine and plague and internal violence potentials. that doesn't mean someone isn't using this site to announce what is planned or at least hoped for.

I wouldn't put it past the New Age political element, to be willing to use jihadi islam to do some of its work. As long as they eventually have sufism to fall back on, if their primary anger is against Christianity and Judaism, an aggressive islam would do the job for them and they wouldn't mind becoming muslims for a while.

ISIS of course wouldn't like sufism, but just like the original ISIS gradually got undermined and sufism rendered acceptable, this could happen again. Secret cults can keep their own act going while the mainstream is ISIS like and does what the secret cult wants.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 8:02
"I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm saying simply that if they are using demographics then their figures are wrong, whereas if they are claiming to predict future political events having a bearing on population then they can't know."

That statement presupposes that the future cannot be calculated from the present and immediate past.

Unfortunately for that idea, the insurance industry has run and prospered on exactly that capability
for many decades.

The one thing they can't know for sure, is whether near immediate future events like pandemics and WW 3 and whatever else they are drooling over in anticipation, will get delayed or mitigated enough to mess with their projections.

Anonymous said...

OH! Finally we get why Clancy is no longer with us.

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Anonymous said...

The EU are seriously out to control and tax the internet across Europe!

Three speeches here from Vice-President Ansip -

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-14-2182_en.htm

Buzzwords coming out on all the new digital taxation, etc., are - "level playing field" "removing obstacles/barriers"

Passing mentions of the 'internet of things' and needs to'invest in the necessary infrastructure.'

~ K ~

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the eyes and the ears open for these things you are making us aware of ~ K ~ .

Constance Cumbey said...

Thanks, too ~K for all of your valuable inputs!

Thanks to those with the mathematical and statistical opinions. I will freely confess that one major reason I went to Law School was because it was the only curriculum in the whole university without a math requirement. I've been trying to remediate myself on mathematical issues most of my adult life!

Constance

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

following the trail to Hedges common sense page and looking at other articles, I ended up with this, BIG OIL AND THEIR BANKERS IN THE PERSIAN GULF: FOUR HORSEMEN, EIGHT FAMILIES, & THEIR GLOBAL INTELLIGENCE, NARCOTICS & TERROR NETWORK by Dean Henderson. I got the kindle version, the new and used are way too expensive.

you can download kindle for pc or mc free if you don't have kindle and read on your computer, you can read it in the kindle cloud or pin and download to read offline on kindle.

I have just started reading this, some early stuff I already know so he probably is on track with the rest.

Anonymous said...

Ooops - here's the link to the 3 speeches;

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/2014-2019/ansip/announcements_en

Thanks Constance & Anon - The peace of the Lord be with you.

~ K ~

Anonymous said...

http://www.nsf.gov/cise/aci/webinar/2014January27-CCIIEwebinar.pdf

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feds-plan-35-agencies-help-collect-share-use-electronic-health-info_821037.html

This is not future it is happening now

In case you want to know how your Medical/Educational dmv/gun registration/online records are being sucked up and shifted around in universality labs. I have listened to detailed meetings and they have no idea what they are doing. There are not not enough trusted 'STEM' (fascists) workers yet. It does not mean what it used too. We have stem jobs full and overloaded, they mean e-file workers, semantic deception, think "The Lives Of Others" now they guys in the SQL server rooms not in your basement.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/07/14/stem-jobs-help-america-win-future

I get the Ayn Rand National Science Institute link, funny and sad. Science is no longer facts but magic and propaganda fir the state.

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Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

checking around, other pre trib refutations are audible I had to reload mine. but mine hits pretty seriously, focussing on Matt 24 and 2 Thess usually used to support it, and equating the way pretribbers abuse Scripture with the same way heretics in general always do.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

The aforementioned book, has research very well sourced, and exactly with a few more details what I had learned over the decades past. However, he has a certain flaw. While he gives enough info on the Protocols of Zion to show any reader it is not a Jewish product, but masonic (note "of the 33rd degree" rarely mentioned by its supporters) he seems to over present it. The land seizure from Palestinians is mentioned without reference to the Arab attacks prior or the dishonest tribal and clan owners in trust of the lands that were sold out from under those who lived on them.

(A Russian Orthodox priest once told me, that an Arab who was an Antiochian Orthodox priest told him, "never trust an Arab, not even me.")

And he seems to buy Zechariah Sitchin's nonsense without pause, any normal person would want to dig farther, though even Michael Heiser was taken in until he found problems and finally published http://sitchiniswrong.org but perhaps that is because the shenanigans ascribed to the annunaki fit what the writer is used to in more recent times, so it has instant credibility with him.

Aside from this, the book's statements are documented at every turn.

basically what I figured out years ago, is that the anticommunist semi religion is a big scam, one set of satanic guys (in terms of core values and in a few cases probably overt cult activities) getting rich and powerful by fighting another group of satanic guys. Reminds me of what I read once, Lord Sandwich denounced lord whatsisname the founder of the HellFire Club, in Parliament, for blasphemy. Sandwich was a satanist himself.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like a bug to me Christine, YouTube is continually updating its runware in the background and a particular update might, for example, accidentally hobble videos uploaded from a particular type of computer/operating system combo, or at a particular date, or whatever. In that case, bet it's sorted within a few days. (It might even be a bug in your computer; are they silent at you local internet cafe?) YouTube also silences some videos for copyright violation, but it always says so; could be accidental spillover from that. Furthermore, if I wished to discredit somebody then I'd let them talk freely on YouTube about their belief in Martians rather than silence them.

Anonymous said...

Christine, respect to you for commenting critically on your preferred church system at 4.33pm. But conversion is a personal thing and those who don't want Jesus should be free to walk away (that's explicit in scripture), so even the best church won't convert more than a small proportion of the population; frequently we are told that most people will reject Him.

As for Balkan history, it is on a long timescale and you can make any set of people look bad by choosing to stop running the clock backwards at a particular date. Croatia was a brutal fascist State during WW2 that practised gunpoint conversion of Orthodox and Muslims to Roman Catholicism, for instance.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Once you have a bunch of people under your influence, and all the kids grow up in it, it is your fault if this kind of stuff in Serbia goes on. At some point the Orthodox Church dropped the ball.

Serbian nobility and many laity were secretly bogomil, a doctrine whose Christology was close to that of Islam, and whose less obvious problematic ideas were similar to some extreme baptist/calvinist types in demonizing mainstream Christianity. This meant that a big conversion to islam to save property was easy.

But those who didn't covert were at first on good terms with the Turks. war happy Serbs were mercenaries for the Turks in their wars, even when these Serbs were technically Christian. Turkish rulers, however depraved, were impressed with Orthodox architecture and sometimes miracles, and financed church building. Then came a bishop in Montenegro who argued that it is not good enough for the Serb to have his church he must have his land also. Revolts started with predictable reactions, given the similarly violent and prideful nature of the Turks.

Some time after that, someone appropriately enough named Vuk (wolf) proceeded to undermine the sheep even more, by teaching them to abandon knowledge of Church Slavonic and focus on Serbian. This meant a lot less of The Holy Liturgy could be understood.

Serbian ugliness way predates WW 2.

A heart and soul dedication of the population is perhaps rare, but an entrenched set of Christian attitudes and values could be expected. It isn't there. And Communism isn't to blame.

Anonymous said...

Okay sooo, Brain mapping is fully funded in the mega omnibus bill. We are on track for eugenics. It was Gore who started the conversation on liberal vs conservative brains and common core brought us an MRI machine in every public school. Obama gave sweeping new rights to psychiatrists. Even police officers can diagnose a mental illness on the spot. Hitler started with the mentally ill, some 70k murdered before starting on Jews. Please God let me be wrong.

technology for the social good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beNCzRE6pxo


It'a 'good' right?

paul said...

We're going to build a better Tower of Babel.

Anonymous said...

Yes, that's the nutshell Paul.

Anonymous said...

The Tower of Babel has been building for millennia. The capstone has not been set yet, but it will be soon.

Anonymous said...

Yes. Some "nimrod" will soon take the top spot.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 8:25

the demonization of Serbs in the media is reports relevant to culture, to the patterns of a large number of people, not to their religion. The religion in theory is fine, but it has been infiltrated among its clergy by confusion between Serbism and Christianity. The idea of the Church as Body of Christ has morphed into an attack on a Serb is an attack on Christ and similar nonsense. (Of course someone attacked for being a Christian would be a case of an attack on Christ, but that is another matter.)

The respective religions in the Balkans have nothing much to do with the problems, though they are used as excuses.

The problem lies in patterns that predate RC Orthodox and islamic presence there, and the RC did better at suppressing some of it than the Orthodox did. a good example is brigandage, glorified in Serbian folk attitudes despite Dushan's Code demanding the death of such and punishment of the village such were a part of because they were giving him shelter and partaking in his gain from robbery of outsiders.

the mafia culture and its blood feuds tracks to Balkan incl. Greek pop culture more evident in vilage backwaters now than cities.

Before the Bosnian war, muslims and ORthodox lived peaceably together, and muslims were very liberal, but the Serbian aggression changed that. People came in in busloads from Serbia proper to loot in Bosnia in places Serbs controlled, day trips for this.

Some Serbs rejected the evil way, there was a Serbian woman who led raids against Serbs encircling either Sarajevo or Srebrenica I forget which from inside the city. In the WW I period before during immediately after I forget, a Serb reported the abuses of the local warlords and he or another tried to protect Croats who were being abused.

Some decent feeling exists among individuals in any group, and in this case perhaps the man took seriously what he learned in Church. One or both of these events was reported online by the then aging witness of the events in the early 1990s, in a forum somewhere.

Anonymous said...

Christine, stop demonising the Serbs. Tito kept the lid on by force of personality which is why Serbs, Croats and Bosnians lived together without killing each other, but they didn't love each other and soon after Tito died and the Iron Curtain fell the lid came off. ALL sides comprise fallen human beings. You might know quite a lot of Balkan history but if your education has been selective then it doesn't help. I repeat what you have simply ignored: Balkan history is on a long timescale and you can make any set of people look bad by choosing to stop running the clock backwards at a particular date.

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Constance Cumbey said...

Going on internet air in just a few minutes and this will be topic today plus a little more on Common Core.

How's that for a rhyme?

Join me at www.themicroeffect.com and/or tmeradio.com.

Call in live at 888-747-1968.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Good show. I didn't know that about Mullins. I ordered some of his stuff once and was less than impressed. The Ezra documents were mostly unreadable and Mullins writings were not as clever as his speeches. I threw the stuff out.

Marko said...

Christine at 2:26 am....

You said:

basically what I figured out years ago, is that the anticommunist semi religion is a big scam, one set of satanic guys (in terms of core values and in a few cases probably overt cult activities) getting rich and powerful by fighting another group of satanic guys.

There is some truth to what you say, but it misses something.

Many anticommunists are not Satanic, and in fact are anticommunist precisely because of their Christian beliefs. As an example, please read Whittaker Chambers' "Witness". The odd thing with Chambers is that when he left Communism, he said he felt he was coming over to the "losing side". When he rejected Communism, he did so not only in a political sense, but in a spiritual sense as well. He recognized that Communism was based on the materialistic view of Man - one that leaves God out of the picture and says that Man is in control of his own destiny. (The Ayn Rand wing of anticommunism, which definitely IS Satanic, believes that particular view of Man, and perhaps that is what you refer to.)

Anticommunism may have it's nefarious adherents, but it is definitely not a scam. Communism (and all tyrannical philosophies?) have an anti-Christ element as part of their heart of darkness, whether admitted by those who side with them or not. It is only natural for Christians to be repulsed by Communism and other tyrannies.

Those who say that there can be a "Christian" form of Communism have failed to understand the evil, man-centered, Utopian nature of Communism, or have misdefined Communism to suit their own agendas.

Anonymous said...

12-14-14
FYI --Tonight on 60 Minutes they were talking about "mindfulness." Can you say NEW AGE?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Even those who PROFESS Christianity often are into a satanic kind of value system, i.e., elitism, getting rich and powerful, scorn for the poor, etc.

Yes, Marxism Leninism is a human centered as distinct from overt occultic kind of satanic mindset, a rebellion against God. Marx was the one who go atheism to be plank in the Communist International platform. It took some work.


The welfare state isn't what is bankrupting us it is the deals with corporations and the military industrial congressional complex. And welfare isn't communism, various forms way predate "socialism" and the Byzantine govt. and Church cooperated in charitable operations.
Confusing communism with the view of all in a country as family and you are expected to help the impoverished in your greatly extended family, has been a great undermining of a serious point that Jesus will raise at The Last Judgement.

I wonder if some, instead of being told they failed to feed Him when they saw Him hungry, or give Him clothes when they saw Him in rags, will be told that He had a roof over His head, clothes and food, and they took this away from Him, and they will say, when did we do this? and He will perhaps say when you got WIC and Social Security and rent control and whatever else radically cut or eliminated. I shudder at the thought.

Anticommunism becomes a religion in itself, and gives you, especially when equated with Christianity, an excuse to engage in your worst tendencies and blood lust, and blind cheering on of "our team." James warns that when there is strife (cliques, party loyalty) and zeal (self exaltation) there is confusion and every evil work. (the translations are per a book I read years ago, that was not pushing a political agenda.) All some quasi govt. royal like power corporate elite needs to do, to fight a challenge to its abuses, is label the challenge "communism" or "socialism."

I know where my head was when I slipped into "Christianity and..." as C. S. Lewis' Screwtape put it, and of course the other side of the "and" became dominant. It happened to be anticommunism and right wing economic theory. Been there done that repented of it.

The irony of equating the antichrist with Communism is, that you do NOT need any kind of socialism you could have full blown Chicago School economics going, and all you need for "the beast system" is that no one but a citizen could legally engage in commerce, and to be a citizen you had to worship the beast and take his mark.

all the evils that have been tagged as the antichrist may have been attempts by evil spirits to get this going, attempts that will fail until God is ready to allow its short term success. Of course these evils do much harm of varying kinds, and not seeing them as "the antichrist system" or whatever does not mean seeing them as good, or failing to fight them tooth and nail, to limit the harm they do.

It is NOT about individualism vs. collectivism, it is about right vs. wrong and sometimes individualism is one camp sometimes the other, and sometimes collectivism is in one camp and sometimes the other. To put these as the primary issue is categorically to create a false god, granted God started with one individual and made a second and that is a testimony to the individual as a key issue, but there is more to it than that. Submission to the monarchy of Jesus Christ is not about individualism or collectivism. All these things are properly servants of Jesus but extreme capitalist - ism and communism are both running independent of Jesus.

Constance Cumbey said...

Tonight CBS's 60 minutes featured a laudatory segment on still another New Age mind control technique called "Mindfulness." It is clearly based on Buddhist practices and is now being made part of management training and school children training via corporate sponsors including Google. Congressman Tim Ryan of Ohio has written a laudatory book on that New Age practice -- wants all of America to adopt it "to renew our land" and has received a $1 million federal grant to teach it to small school children!

Very dangerous,very aggressive and DON'T LET ANYBODY TELL YOU IT IS NOT NEW AGE -- IT CLEARLY IS!!!!!!!

CONSTANCE

Constance Cumbey said...

To Anonymous 7:54

Thanks! I watched the segment and rushed down to my computer. I'm composing an article for NewswithViews and here with my observations and opinions on this obvious new New Age cult based on some of the oldest elements of New Age -- Buddhist. Wonder how long before Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio and Congressman Tim Ryan of Ohio sit together lotus style on the floor of the House and do their respective "Om's"? Maybe they already have?

Anonymous said...

I came across this video this evening and thought it might be of interest to others interested in the history of the unelected law makers that are working today as the EU.

The NAZIS and FASCISTS who founded the THE EU and their influence today - Rodney Atkinson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nf5KeC4dAs

Rodney Atkinson's website; http://freenations.net/

~ K ~

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

It strikes me that the real danger inherent even in the original buddhist form, which is a kind of hyper alertness to the present moment, is that things are perceived "non judgementally." what does that mean? while its all very well to go, here is a plant, over there is something else, there is the stove catching on fire.... what do you do with the latter? calmly notice, there is this bad thing happening and cold bloodedly without fear go and deal with it? or just keep calm and sit there and not be "judgemental?"

a strong sense of guarded confronting and distinctness from your environment and from all else is part of the concept, but the concept itself is stage one, beyond which are progressive degrees of moving from that alert state to some blurred out mess called "illumination."

cultivating a sense of yourself distinct from not a manifestation of or "one with" all else is a good idea. The recognition things affect you and you affect other things is not the same as identification with them and viewing the self as illusion.

Of course, the goal is to first identify the self THEN reject it as illusion, the next step is what you don't want. The first step then is intended as a confrontation with the essence of the illusion, so called, and in fact should be cultivated as the identification of the reality, and standing on this reject the other stages.

keeping track of your breath is all very well to avoid hyperventillation but this is self control, should not put you in a trance. But that is what it is used for in this. Just because something calms you down doesn't mean it is good, there is such a thing as false peace, and the eradication of all reaction to anything can lead to failure to recognize evil as evil. I could see these techniques being used to "help" train people out of instinctive reactions of repugnance to perversion or cruelty or whatever.

I'm sorry to drone on, but some things are hard to find words for that are not misapplicable. Here is an article of interest.

http://shoebat.com/2014/07/14/buddhism-will-soon-just-dangerous-islam-will-threat-christian-world/

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

another criticism of interest. http://www.trimondi.de/SDLE/Index.htm

The Shadow of the Dalai Lama.

Haunting the mahayana buddhist scene, is the concept of the amoral enlightened one, that once you are enlightened enough, the rules don't apply. Hence some important figures in the development of Tibetan buddhism, were immoral and this is not seen as a problem.

Basically, this kind of enlightenment puts you beyond good and evil (or so you think).

Whether anything remotely like this figures in Theravada aka Hinayana Buddhism the original version, I can't tell, but I never heard of it outside the Mahayana context. Mahayana means greater vehicle, and they look down on Theravada and call them lesser vehicle.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.trimondi.de/EN/links.htm

This is important, and you might miss it without going through the whole online book, assuming it is part of it, I don't remember been a while since I read it.

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Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.trimondi.de/H-B-K/inhalt.hi.en.htm

HITLER - BUDDHA - KRISHNA
An unholy alliance from the Third Reich until the present day

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

sometimes Chinese communism is better than what is worse.

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

yes Babylon WAS reduced to ruins
this article shows that, contrary to a lot of modern interpreters,
Babylon WAS destroyed, not by Cyrus but by repeated invaders
after him. Since it was to be destroyed to not be inhabited again,
and is only ruins, only some outlying villages remain but not the
city, at one point travellers couldn't even see the ruins and
weren't sure it ever existed, this is not going to be end time
Babylon.

http://www.dabar.org/semreview/fallbabyprob.html

The theory that Jerusalem is end time Babylon fails because of
Revelation saying that it is spiritually called Sodom where Jesus
Christ was Crucified.

That leaves Rome as a possible, but NOT A ROMAN CATHOLIC
ROME! if Rome is end time Babylon in Revelation it is not a
Roman Catholic (or any kind of Christian unless maybe
hyper charismatic of the Bethel Church in Redding, CA
sort) Rome. The reason is, that this looks like a revival
of paganism (not disguised paganism as detractors of
Romanism like to call it) and Reconstructionist Paganism
is working there now. Reconstructionist Paganism take
archaeological and historical information, and attempts
to recreate accurately (not in a misty eyed New Age sense)
the paganism of pre Christian cultures, thus, Celtic
Reconstructionism, Slavic Reconstructionism, Aztec
Reconstructionism, etc. etc.

The Greek form was granted legal status in Greece some
years back, followed by a rash of fires I think was the
wrath of God. The Roman Reconstructionism is working
in Italy. Since I haven't been on the yahoo egroups that
specialize in any of this for several years, my information
is out of date, and unless the movements collapsed I can
only assume they are gaining more ground.

These appeal to ethnic pride and a sense of antiquity and
basically all argue that a people should worship their
ancestral "gods" and not Jesus Christ.

while there is evidence that "Babylon" was a nickname given by Jews to Rome, and that likely Peter did refer to Rome when saying "Babylon" since in those days Christian and Jewish pop culture were the same, that doesn't mean the Vatican has anything to do with this. (It is not even on any of the seven hills of Rome, and is outside both modern and ancient Roman city limits.)

There might be other options. Or Babylon the Great a mystery might
be what Mark S. Watson called a "moving stronghold," a spiritual
stronghold that relocates when its host is destroyed, and he and
others figure it is currently USA or at least New York City.

Wikipedia shows that of all the cities in the world built on seven hills, USA has TWENTY of them. The 20 cities listed incl. many I know
nothing about, but the ones I do know something about are part of the great evil so "Babylon" might refer to a network of cities involved in this, with NYC at the apex. Other possibilities exist, this might take longer to play out than most think.

Mecca as Babylon fails because nothing that happens to it would be
visible from the ships at sea, unless some cataclysm turns it into a
deep water port in future.

Anonymous said...

Here is a very insightful Christian perspective on Mindfulness, which is indeed Buddhism in disguise:

http://www.maranathacommunity.org.uk/download.aspx?file=Mindfulness.pdf

“The heart of man is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked” (Jeremiah 17:9). So if a non-Christian (at least) honestly and searchingly looks inside himself, this is what he will find. I believe the corruption is so great that doing this can drive people mad. Indeed I suspect that this is what happens when people who take drugs such as LSD have a ‘bad trip.’

Christians have the mind of Christ from the moment they are justified. Sanctification, however – learning to deploy it – is a lifelong process, and introspection can usefully be part of the process, in which we see our sin nature and inwardly crucify it so as to be resurrected. Our lives will provide further assistance to us in doing this, and we are to confess our sins to each other, which means acknowledging them and their motivation.

Introspection does not involve interaction with the forces of darkness. There is no risk of demonisation. But it is dangerously easy to load occult add-ons onto the practice, such as visualising light entering oneself (Satan masquerades as an angel of light – 2 Corinthians 11:14).

Anonymous said...

The problem with communism is the lack of private ownership, which disincentivises; and the abuse of power that is inevitable given a 1-party dictatorship and fallen human nature.

Problems with welfare/poor relief arise when the laws for its application contain no measure of personal discretion. Paul said that a man who refused to work should go hungry, whereas obviously a man who wants to work but is unemployed should not. So there is biblical sanction to distinguish between the deserving and the undeserving poor. In ancient Israel this distinction was made by having the local priests and elders decide who should get access to the grain stored as poor relief; there is no means test which would simply encourage the poor to live off this grain.

paul said...

Christine,
Your pomposity is amazing.

Why couldn't Mecca be seen burning from the Red Sea?
Mecca's religion and government are Babylonian through and through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4hh0Zxn5Xg

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Mecca is at least 50 miles inland. That doesn't mean it won't be destroyed, and it does have a lot in common with Babylon the great. Mecca is on some hills at 300 meter or more height, and hills are here and there between it and the sea of 300, 400 and 200 meters then a lower plain, which might obscure the view pretty well.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

islam is only babylonian when you look closely, it is very disguised. no polytheism, for instance. no temple prostitution. as for the govt. style being babylonian, no more so than european monarchies. or of other countries no where near it.

Anonymous said...

Good article on Rick Warren calling on Christians to unite with 'Holy Father'.

christiannews.net/2014/12/02/rick-warrens-call-for-christians-to-unite-with-catholics-holy-father-raising-concerns/

paul said...

Christine,
You wonder how many miles away a city can be seen when the whole thing is on fire from crude oil, when Islam is antichrist by it's very charter?
You seem also to think that the babylonians must have been polytheistic and that life under Nebuchadnezzar was, what, democratic?
The religion of Babylon was all about Marduk, to the point that when Cyrus invaded and conquered it in 539BC, he presented himself as the Servant of Marduk and the restorer of orthodoxy, in order to not offend the Priesthood of Marduk. Religion and the government were inseparable, just like it is in izlum today.
You strain at gnats.
Look at Revelations 17 and 18 again.
Mecca is the Great Whore and Turkey is the seat of
Satan. (Revelations 2:13 )

Anonymous said...

Constance Cumbey Embraces Allah

Constance posted:
"There may be evidence out there to the contrary, but so far, I have not seen really convincing evidence that "Allah" is not God."

"A MISREPRESENTATION of God does not necessarily in and of itself imply they are worshiping a DIFFERENT God -- they may be however, worshiping something created in their own image."

both of her posts can be found here at her blog:

http://cumbey.blogspot.co...gg-is.html?commentPage=2

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"You wonder how many miles away a city can be seen when the whole thing is on fire from crude oil, when Islam is antichrist by it's very charter?
You seem also to think that the babylonians must have been polytheistic and that life under Nebuchadnezzar was, what, democratic? "

Paul, antichrist is a MAN an INDIVIDUAL not a system, not a computer, a man.

Islam is an antichrist religion, Mohammed was AN antichrist as John says there are many now, aside from the main one.

I said ISLAM is not polytheistic and its monarchy and corruption is no
different from that of medieval Europe or other countries now and most of the world previous. No temple prostitution.

As far as I can see from lists presented, Saudi Arabia and USA are neck and neck on matching details.

as for poor living off gain, most rents chew up all your welfare before food and anything else. you really need to do your research. Welfare Queens are and always were rare, which is why they got attention.

"workfare" is an experiment along the lines you would probably like and while some have called it slavery I see nothing wrong with it.

There is a BIG problem....the safety of your children left alone (which may itself be illegal in some places) while you go to work that doesn't pay enough to not leave the older kids tempted to get into drug dealing. Neighbors include child molesters, pimps, corrupters of all sorts, etc.

Telling a woman to find a husband or else, which some people's attitudes add up to, is little more than pushing her to one client prostitution. And he might abuse the children.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 2:17 you are too rough on Constance, and assume she has read the koran and knows details of the way it was revealed, which I doubt given her busy life.

Constance, I have read the koran straight through TWICE, once in the official authorized Saudi English translation.

I can guarantee you there is a problem.

Somewhere online I found this information: "allah" means "the god," which means whichever deity claimant, the real one or a fake, that you are talking about.
"Hubar" was the main "god" of Mecca and the Kaaba had to do with him. There is a strong correlation between him and baal, making Islam repackaged baal worship, to use the words of the writer. so "allah" adds up to "baal" in that context.

"Gabriel" did not act like an angel in the Bible, who however scary at first sight always says "fear not" or something like that. "Gabriel" grabbed mohammed by the throat by way of saying hello. mohammed at one point worried he was possessed and so did some others, but his ambitious wife Khadijah persuaded him otherwise.

the nicey nice phrases in the koran are from the earlier relevations, it is NOT organized in terms of WHEN a sura was "revealed" but in terms of length. this demon told mohammed that it would replace some revelations with others that were better, and the violent tone replaced the conciliatory tone that was used when first trying to convert and when islam was operating from a weak hand.

The doctrine on Jesus is a mix of gnostic docetism and extreme arianism.

Mohammed got on better with the heretical versions of Christianity than with the Orthodox. Those wearing the round tonsure were to be killed, a different form was used by Nestorian monks and they were to be spared.

It took a while for me to consider that islam isn't just a messed up product of a crazy guy who lied a lot and some good mixed with bad in the koran. An agenda seems to have been in play - adding up to getting rid of idols, yeah, but punishing all who would put a focus on Jesus Christ of The Bible.

St. John of Damascus seems to have consider "hagarism" a Christian heresy, since it makes a big deal about Jesus, but only as a prophet not as God in the flesh.

Constance, if you were to go to a muslim country and convert a muslim, you and the convert would be liable to death. This is koranic not just shariah which sometimes is different even worse.

There are a lot of muslims who are not that into islam and are secularist or sloppy and focus on the idea of "allah" as merciful and let their decency tendencies given by YHWH play and even like the prohibited music, wine and don't circumcize their women and a few are so ethnic rather than religious oriented, they are non enforcing on apostasy laws. The Kurds are 10% Christian higher than any other group near them. Their women almost never wore the veil, only individuals here and there and you can't find it in old photos from the 1800s and travellers reports. There may be other tribes like this, but right now Kurdish held land is the only non Assad held land where Christians are safe, and they are trying to shut down jihadism in their own people.

Anonymous said...

http://abcsofdumbdown.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-greatest-christmas-present-to.html

Agenda 21 education data helping make national ID.

'don't worry if you are not a muslim' and I have a bridge to sell you in NYC, only ten thousand dollars.

That brain mapping we did said you have some bad thoughts and spots in the wrong place are you having terrorist thoughts? Actually we know every thing you think about based on your e-records but the 'brain map' helps us make it look like science more than spying.

Anonymous said...

CONSTANCE & All,

I've just received this important 200 page OECD report as recommended reading. I haven't read it yet but did want to pass on the link for all to see.

Addressing the Tax Challenges of the Digital Economy

http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/taxation/addressing-the-tax-challenges-of-the-digital-economy_9789264218789-en

"The spread of the digital economy poses challenges for international taxation. This report sets out an analysis of these tax challenges. It notes that because the digital economy is increasingly becoming the economy itself, it would not be feasible to ring-fence the digital economy from the rest of the economy for tax purposes. The report notes, however, that certain business models and key features of the digital economy may exacerbate BEPS risks. These BEPS risks will be addressed by the work on the other Actions in the BEPS Action Plan, which will take the relevant features of the digital economy into account. The report also analyses a number of broader tax challenges raised by the digital economy, and discusses potential options to address them, noting the need for further work during 2015 to evaluate these broader challenges and potential options."

~ K ~

Constance Cumbey said...

What the clearly defined New Age strategy was/is: Alice Bailey, Rays and the Initiations:

There are certain areas of evil in the world today
through which these forces of darkness can reach humanity.
What they are and where they arc I do not intend to say.
I would point out, however, that Palestine should no longer
be called the Holy Land; its sacred places are only the
passing relics of three dead and gone religions. The spirit
has gone out of the old faiths and the true spiritual light
is transferring itself into a new form whiLh will manifest on
earth eventually as the new world religion. To this form
fill that is true and right and good in the old forms will
contribute, for the forces of right will withdraw that good,
and incorporate it in the new form. Judaism is old, obsolete
ancl separative and has no true message for the spiritually minded
which cannot be better given by the newer faiths;
the Moslem faith has served its purpose and all true Moslems
await the coming of the Imam Mahdi who will lead
them to light and to spiritual vinory; the Christian faith
also has served its purpose; its Founder seeks to bring a new
Gospel and a new message that will enlighten all men
everywhere. Therefore. Jerusalem stands for nothing
of importance today, except for that which has passed
away and should pass away.


This what Alice Bailey was referring to in her so-called "Great Invocation" vis a vis "sealing the door where evil dwells," i.e. Getting rid of what they call "Peoples of the Book -- religions descending from Abraham."

That strategy is reaffirmed in Peter LeMesurier's ARMAGEDDON SCRIPT as well where he wrote:

The massed forces of the Old Age, however, will be unable to check their headlong onrush. In large measure they will go on to destroy each other in a massive, mutual venting of long pent-up aggression, much as the Essenes'
original Pentecost Declaration foresaw .


And thereafter, as they believe, THEY will be the New Age Phoenix to arise from our ashes and build their "new society."

Constance

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Constance, take note of this from Bailey's screed:

"the Moslem faith has served its purpose and all true Moslems
await the coming of the Imam Mahdi who will lead
them to light and to spiritual vinory;"

while it remains to be seen if such an event will occur, and if so if God will allow this to be THE antichrist or just shut him down because its too soon, the correlations between islamic and Christian prophecy - with the islamic prophecy in direct opposition to the Christian - is interesting. Should not be ignored.

http://www.michaelyoussef.com/michaels-blogs/the-antichrist-and-the-muslim-mahdi-part-2.html

http://www.gotquestions.org/Islamic-antichrist.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbxr4495Lj8

notice that "allah" is referred to as "lord of the worlds," which is similar to the Bible statement about the devil as "the god of this world," as distinct from saying God YHWH is "the God of heaven and earth."

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

the present media is heavily new age influenced isn't it? and it ignores muslim ethnic cleansing of Christians and massacres for the most part.

Beheadings that happen in the US (yes there have been some) are reported as if not muslim related. 150 American courts have chosen shariah law over American law in handling cases. One state at least has made this illegal now, and I think a federal circuit judge has also ruled this is wrong.

ANY state whose codes include the initial statement in the code book, that no law is enforceable or recognized or exists whatever term used, that is not written in the code book, ipso facto makes shariah invalid. yet judges often don't even know the law and are educated in the statements by lawyers and prosecuted (a point made by a lawyer I studied under briefly). I recall a prosecutor in CA who was looking to make bounty hunting illegal, I talked with her on the phone, pointing out that the penal code gives arrest power to anyone who bails anyone, but she answered it isn't necessarily transferable to agents, or words to that effect. YET THE PENAL CODE IN CA EXPLICITLY SAYS THAT IT IS. Law education is focussed on "principles" that are subordinate to statute law, instead of memorizing statute law as well!

A case of beheading one woman and trying it on another who escaped, accompanied with the islamist chant, was written up by the media as "workplace violence," because it happened at work, but it was clearly a jihadi act.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

a mushroom cloud could be seen from 50 miles since it is uphill of the viewers and rises far higher in the sky. Mecca itself isn't an oil pumping site I think.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Prophecy sometimes plays out more than once, many of the things in Prophecy have already happened, but not all.

Even if Shoebat's scenario plays out exactly, with Mecca destroyed, if Mark Watson's idea of a moving stronghold is correct, then Babylon the great mystery mother of harlots may simply shift to her other daughter, New York City etc.

Both scenarios could play out. eventually there will be a final Babylon. It is possible BOTH strongholds will fall in the same hour.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

the far right in europe is of course nazi inclined or connected. they are at the forefront of the needed rebellion against stealth and creeping overt jihad in Europe.

Which means, that the stealth jihad plan (100 year plan, with 6 years to go) may have had illuminati help, with a view to bringing nazism back as saviors of Europe.

The problem will be for europe and Christianity, how to use them to stop islamism, and how to get rid of them afterwards.

A big push is on in evangelical Christianity, to adopt a passive stance in general and seek only personal vainglory and profit. There is already too much pacifist no judging and let God do it all attitude among Christians all relying on verses taken out of context.

This means solid Christians are likely to be of little use in a crisis.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/12/11/the-us-congressional-declaration-war-against-russia.html

Anonymous said...

Christine said:

anon 2:17 you are too rough on Constance, and assume she has read the koran and knows details of the way it was revealed, which I doubt given her busy life.

You are kidding right?

If Constance has not read the whole Quran and is not versed properly, then she should NOT make such a ridiculous statement.

With all her groupies, it is very irresponsible to make such a statement unless she is properly versed.

Allah is NOT the same God!!!!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Constance has probably been deceived, as are many, by nice sounding stuff in koran out of context, and fine individuals who are muslim.

One thing caught my eye when reading it, aside from the anti Jesus' divinity angle, koran says a divorced woman cannot go back to her ex husband unless she has married another first.

This is the exact thing that YHWH calls abomination in Mosaic Law. someone rationalized this as being an effort to stop disguised wife swapping, but gave no source for this idea based in writers who knew the times and neighboring nations, etc., so I can't figure out if it is an absolute in itself, or if the law was targetting some practice itself an abomination, but the occasional ex wife remarried divorced/widowed return to first husband not abomination, or is it?

Either way, with Torah and koran in exact opposite on this, and no explanatory comment from supposedly same God, it doesn't sound like the same God.

how many are really well acquainted enough with OT and koran to notice this? the way protestants and RC both twist Scripture, I doubt very many are.

Marko said...

Christine (1:17 am):

Your link at 1:17 am goes to a propaganda website, much like RT (Russia Today), GlobalResearch.ca, and other similar sites which are either directly controlled by KBG assets, or heavily influenced by them.

Just search the author's name (Wayne Madsen) over at Accuracy In Media's website:

http://aim.org

Marko said...

Correction:

1:14 am, not 1:17.

Anonymous said...

Christina, yawn. She blabs from Aristotle's philosophy of the soul to Qabala's 'sacred name' movement, I see her name and my eyes skip her comments. She is a troll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

You get them when you are considered influential in communicating truth to X number of people. Constance is telling enough truth to too many carbon shells for JustIna to stand. New age witches float around the internet doing good works for Luci. Mostly they serve to distract and waste time or discredit. Constance does block or delete some of her junk but I would block it all if it was me. So Mine Eyes Pass over her crud.

She has made her choice, you can't help her.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Marko, it doesn't matter the site it matters the facts presented. The lack of purity on the part of this guy in your eyes is not different than other source's impurity that you would probably think okay.

That information was out there before I saw it from that site, I used it as the quickest source to find.

The information is correct. The background on the participants is likely correct as it is the sort of thing the writer would be concerned about, even if his track is different than yours.

you may be hankering after war with Russia, no one in their right minds with enough information wants that unless they think to build a new world order out of the resulting chaos, or expect to bring anti NWO Russia to heel. Consider the possibility of a nuke landing near you if you are near a military base. I am 25 miles from such and would be minimally affected so I don't care on a personal basis, but it is a bad idea in general.

you need to stop trusting sites, and start looking at and checking information, including and especially from whatever your trusted sites are. I don't trust wholeheartedly ANYONE.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"Christina, yawn. She blabs from Aristotle's philosophy of the soul to Qabala's 'sacred name' movement, I see her name and my eyes skip her comments. She is a troll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page"

aristotle on the soul? Qabala sacred name? what are you babbling gibberish about? it is not sacred name to use God's Name to make a point. What is that wikipedia main page link about it mostly talks about wikipedia itself and some kind of fly.

Constance has mentioned being of the opinion that America is Babylon. And aristotle and qabala have nothing to do with exposing the facade of islam.

OMOTS said...

There really is nothing new under the sun. The “Global Infrastructure Initiative” was foreseen long ago, as anyone who has studied the new age movement already knows.

I just finished reading “Common Sense Renewed” - c. 1986, by Robert Christian, a somewhat hard to find book written by a man using an admitted pseudonym and claiming to be the same anonymous individual who commissioned the Georgia Guidestones.

I believe the claim is credible.

Anyway, as I read through this theosophical treatise on how to fix all of the world’s problems, I realized that I had read these same concepts many times before, and then I began to recognize some of the exact same phrases and writing style of someone we (Constance and I) both had dealings with.

I believe the man behind the Georgia Guidestones and the author of “Common Sense Renewed” is the same man who wrote “Earth at Omega- Passage to Planetization”.

Although I cannot offer any proof, I am compiling evidence that the indomitable hermit of Mt. Shasta, the man who was at one time the spiritual conscience of the United Nations, a man who idolized the master of reason himself, "Tom Paine", yes, the mysterious Donald Keys, is indeed the same man who commissioned the building of the Georgia Guidestones.

Below is a tiny url link to the online version of "Common Sense Renewed". Compare it to “Earth at Omega”, and let me know your thoughts.

http://tiny.cc/a3ozqx

Olmanoftheski (a.k.a. OMOTS)

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

OMOTS in your article you said you "had several interactions with Donald Keys," I assume this meant face to face, did you meet any of his friends and acquaintances, did you visit his Mt. Shasta place? (Near as I can figure out he died back in 1990 or thereabouts.)

Did you run into or hear of anyone called Joseph or Joe Grey or Gray, tallish white man kind of eccentric perhaps intellectual type brown eyes hair color probably white would have been elderly but younger than Keys?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"The first of the eight Millennial goals is (and remains) to reduce and eventually eradicate poverty by promoting economic and social development in third world nations. Of course in order to accomplish any of the MDG’s, requires that the most prosperous nations of the world (primarily the United States) fund the development of the poorer nations." from OMOTS' page.

This is what we hear about all the time from the critics of this, but
there is more.

Seems what the IMF does, is give loans and charge interest and demand social network efforts be stopped. Privatization of water, forcing people to choose between outrageous charges for water (water itself not for piping it to you) and food, rent, clothing, medicine, has turned up occasionally.

The steep interest and more loans etc. drive the country being "helped" into more economic decline and more trouble for the poor who are supposedly to be helped.

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man details a lot of this, incl. assassinations of some politicians who won't go along with it or won't be corrupted with bribes and so forth.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Marko here's the govtrack copy of the resolution you dismisss because someone you disapprove of wrote about it.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hres758/text

you can see for yourself what it adds up to, and that it includes the false claim of Russian forcible annexation of Crimea.

Marko said...

Thanks for the link, Christine, to HR 758.

I fully support all of it. There are NO misrepresentations of the facts. In fact, there could be a much longer list of reasons to pass such a resolution, but I think the current list enumerated in the bill is sufficient.

Your refusal to see the facts as presented is because your world view assumes that WE are the bad guys, and that Russia is not. What a dangerous assumption! I hold no hope that you will change your mind, so I write for others who still are undecided on the matter.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: We certainly are no angels, and the sins of America and the West are piled high. Maybe God has planned to have enemy nations take us over or even destroy us, as part of His just punishment for our sins. That doesn't make the invaders or destroyers saints. The height of our "sin pile" has yet to reach that of the former USSR or China, in the mass murders of Christians and their own peoples over the years.

Russia has LONG PLANNED to destroy America, and have always had a strategy in place to do so. For any who care to take the time to study the matter (Jeff Nyquist being one of many who have done so), there is a continuity and pattern to Russian actions that demonstrate an adherence to that strategy which was NEVER abandoned - through the period of collapse of the USSR, and right up to the present day.

The tactics of executing that strategy are open to adjustment from time to time, but the strategy remains the same.

They see themselves as the proper inheritor of the epitaph "Shining City on a Hill", since America has seemed to abandon her calling to be that to the world. Hence all the "Christian" language you hear coming out of Putin's mouth. Nothing could be further from the truth. Future events will bear witness to this. Would that it be otherwise! But what must be, will be.

There will be a day when you might wish that our "military-industrial complex" would have understood the dangers coming, and had better prepared for the storm about to break. But, because of our sins as a nation (abortion being primary, I believe), God has blinded those eyes to the truth about Russia. Some are waking up (as HR 758 demonstrates), but it's probably too little, too late.

Still, God may have mercy, if we as a nation repent. I don't see that happening though.

I truly believe America will be gone by the time the new world religion and Antichrist come on the scene. Or we may still be here, but as either occupied territory, or as a nation in 3rd-world status - our wealth gone, disease and famine commonplace, and all the rest.

Call out to God, cling to Him, and you will be saved.

paul said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_bank

paul said...

The Ruble is collapsing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Russian_financial_crisis

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

It is not a world view issue, it is a matter of seeing what goes on as it develops. Maybe you only get wind of stuff after it is full blown, I am usually following events unfolding before they get on the lamestream news.

and I think the real "world view" issue is yours, you prefer a likely small group of sources who say what you want to hear.

the FACTS are, that regardless of what Russia may in past have wanted to do, since the "reset" NATO and the big oil and Heritage Foundation advisors turned the transition from controlled to free economy into a scene of looting Russian resources and wrecking normal supply lines. People who used to stand in line to get meat found there was no meat, though they still stood in line, while meat was dumped by the road elsewhere, because profit alone drove the situation.

I read these reports as they came out. If Russia wants to destroy NATO (which should have dissolved in the reset) it is because NATO, contrary to assurances, encroached and encroached. If Russia wants to destroy the USA it is because the USA is pushing NATO and our imperial and violence minded neo cons want an enemy to give them a sense of identity.

Not to mention all the immorality and corruption promoted in the name of freedom of expression, etc. Russia had a problem anyway, but western media doesn't help.

And who are the clients for all the prostitutes working abroad in NATO controlled lands? no market no product. prostitutes, pornography or drugs, blame the buyer! you couldn't have such things without a market for it.

Germany is getting sick of towing the American line via NATO, and has now said it won't just automatically go for whatever. As for laissez faire, the petro dollar is essentially forced on everyone. anyone who moves away from it gets invaded on whatever pretext, even legitimate reasons, that we never cared about until the petro dollar was challenged.

Why even have a global currency? it makes more sense to trade in one's own currencies.

With all this fuss about world government and world currency, why don't you get your head out of your freudian projecting ass and look at what USA has been doing? THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS AMERICAN TO THE CORE.

A unipolar world political system, which you think is fine as long as it is American hegemony world wide, is the world govt. groundwork you complain of others and New Agers wanting. Meanwhile, New Age mentality has been in play in our elites and euro elites, regardless of lip service paid to Christianity, for over 100 years.

Marko said...

Hi Paul,

That the ruble is collapsing makes Russia even more dangerous.

I ran across some interesting writeups yesterday. First, a post by Ann Barnhardt. Here's the money quote from that one:

Putin has been flexing his military muscle like crazy lately, with Russian fighters and subs probing and flat out incurring into European and North American airspaces and waterways on a near-daily basis. Putin is economically trapped, and is also nuts, and history tells us that when nut strongmen become trapped, they get out of it by starting wars. If Putin were to invade Finland, Estonia and Poland tomorrow, you and I both know that the former U.S. would do nothing to stop it.

http://tinyurl.com/py78uo7

Then there's this, from the Elliot Wave Theory folks (it's actually an excerpt from an article in Socionomics):

http://tinyurl.com/k7jls52

OMOTS said...

My interactions with Keys were limited to phone conversations, but it is possible he visited a certain Chippewa shaman whom I spent some time with. I may have sat next to him (Keys) during a sweat lodge ceremony without knowing who he was as I recognized him later from some of the rare photos taken at Shasta.

There were a lot of new agers, including folks from the U.N. and Findhorn, both of which Keys was very involved with, who materialized in Sun Bear's (Vincent LaDuke's) circle back in the early 1980's. A Pentagon level intelligence officer was also an "apprentice" for almost a year, as were several university professors and politicians. The new age is very diverse.

Anonymous said...

The new world order is old world business to the core. America fully joined it's ranks a while back. There was a time when America was not on board to that degree because as Lincoln ( I think but not quite sure) said it: it is impossible to enslave a Bible reading people.

Well, now you can see why the early seeds planted of the old world ways went about it's work quietly and methodically, as people in this nation began to fear the God of the Bible less and less, and the ancient hatreds and greeds and lusts for power of the past from the whole world (before there was an America mind you) who are all sold under sin-fully joined at the hip all the peoples of earth-(who have taken it (she has gone along willingly willfully-unrepentant as Marko points out perfectly) as has every other nation gone down the path we are on. We are not the baddest on the block, as though somehow the rest of the world should get a pass---come on really??? America too goes the way of all men. To the pages of history......to the grave. Grace was given to us to be a people who was given opportunity to do righteously, as the rest of the peoples have through time, and the freewill to leave God behind in the pride of that choice now sees grace depart.

All human powered endeavors and experiments and governances do fail in time.

It is because GOD ALMIGHTY said it would go this way and not the Christine theory of how the thing comes down. What arrogance on the part of those, like her, who self-righteously sit in judgment and accusation above all others, and strike as a snake hidden in the grass.

The real (and only) new order will come when the Prince of Peace steps down onto the earth. (shouldn't you already get that Christine? because you claim you are a christian)

Anonymous said...

Alice Bailey as quoted above: "the Moslem faith has served its purpose and all true Moslems await the coming of the Imam Mahdi who will lead them to light and to spiritual victory".

Nonsense! The Imam Mahdi is believed in by a minority of the Shia Muslims, who are themselves a minority of Muslims, the majority being Sunni. Of course a Caliph might claim that he was the Imam Mahdi and reunite all Muslims, but there is no sign of that at present.

Marko, Ann Barnhardt is half-right, half-hysteric. A couple of falls ago she wrote that "there's no way in hell we're making it to Christmas" meaning that the financial system would crumble within 3 months. I am in no doubt that it is someday going to crumble, and Ann Barnhardt is certainly worth reading - but selectively (as any protestant will understand!) And she is WRONG to say that "If Putin were to invade Finland, Estonia and Poland tomorrow, you and I both know that the former U.S. would do nothing to stop it." The point is that eastern Ukraine and Crimea, where Putin has recently been militaristic, (1) have large pro-Russian populations, and (2) aren't in NATO. Finland has proved itself, remarkably, able to hold its own against Russia in 20th century wars, while Estonia and Poland are in NATO and the NATO doctrine is that an attack on one is treated as an attack on all. That view kept Russia out of Western Europe when it was much more powerful than it is today.

Marko said...

Anon 12:31....

Yes, I read Ann B. quite selectively. But her posts are like a dose of cold water in a lukewarm world. Half-right, half-hysteric - that's probably as good a description as I've seen! :^) But when she's right, she's right in spades.

After thinking about it more, I agree with you that if Estonia, Sweden or Poland were invaded, we'd do *something*. I'm just not sure what, especially considering our present Commander in Chief, and most of our present military commanders. I could be wrong about them. Let's hope it never happens for us to find out.

I do like Ann's recent blog posts about reinterpreting pop music as songs from God to Man, or from Man to God. I've done that from time to time as well - heard some lyrics in a song that was written from a secular perspective and thought "Hmmm... those words would apply just as well if they were interpreted in a religious setting...."

Anonymous said...

Marko,

12.31pm here. I like doing what Charles Wesley did and putting Christian lyrics to the tunes of the popular songs of his day. I've got a good Christian version of "Stand by me" (So Jesus, Jesus, Stand by me...) But too many modern worship songs confuse AGAPE and EROS, and David Murrow (author of Why Men Hate going to Church) calls these the Jesus-is-my-boyfriend type of song. They contain words totally unlike anything that any believing man or woman in the gospels is recorded as saying to Jesus.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 12:31 "Nonsense! The Imam Mahdi is believed in by a minority of the Shia Muslims, who are themselves a minority of Muslims, the majority being Sunni."

the Shia put a different spin but BOTH expect the mahdi.

http://www.discoveringislam.org/sunni_mahdi.htm

anon 12:30 "All human powered endeavors and experiments and governances do fail in time.

It is because GOD ALMIGHTY said it would go this way and not the Christine theory of how the thing comes down."

The so called Christine theory is based on exactly the point you made. The details of how might differ.

If you read Daniel 7 and notice that not just me but several interpreters are starting to consider the winged lion is either Britain or Britain-America, you got a guarantee of some kind of fall, but one that isn't a full destruction but results in repentance. Eagle's wings taken from it, loses beastial power becomes more human like, acquires a human heart.

search youtube for the subject and you will find a few such interpreters.

Craig said...

Sony cyber attack prompted by "The Interview":

Sony Drops 'The Interview' Following Terrorist Threats

That's hardly surprising. I have to wonder about the collective intelligence of Hollywood.

Anonymous said...

C'mon Craig, the South Park team got away with Team America - World Police taking the p*** out of his daddy.

I see that the USA is suffering from another extreme weather event, a neat phrase whereby even extreme cold can now be blamed on global warming.

Constance Cumbey said...

So sorry gang, i've been quite ill -- sick in bed most of this week before Christmas. Started a bad cough Sunday night and had a very bad night. Saw doctor on Monday and bedrest was ordered since. I see the doctor again tomorrow. I had to miss a court date on Tuesday morning, something that I usually never do, even if sick -- but I was simply too sick to make it to my car, let alone to court -- and then there were issues of possibly infecting everybody else.

Constance

Anonymous said...

praying for u Constance

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

get some oil of oregano and echinacea root (not "aerial parts") and gargle with salt water.

OMOTS said...

Hope you are feeling better Constance. When you get a chance, please let me know what you think about my theory that the same man who wrote, "Earth at Omega - Passage to Planetization" (c. Jan. 1985) also wrote "Common Sense Renewed" (c. 1986). If anyone would recognize the style of writing, the similarities/ differences in language used, or the similarities/differences of the intent and content of each work, it would be you.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for this post Constance.

Anonymous said...

http://www.putnampit.com/reviews/hitman2.htm

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, (2004, San Francisco, Berrett-Koehler Publishers, 250 pp., $24.95).

...Since he stopped pitching nuclear power under oath (although he didn’t believe his own testimony), Perkins has written several other books, including: Shapeshifting: Shamanic Techniques for Global and Personal Transformation; Spirit of the Shuar: Wisdom from the Last Unconquered People of the Amazon; The Stress Free Habit: Powerful Techniques for Health and Longevity from the Andes, Yucatan, and Far East; and Psychonavigation: Techniques for Travel Beyond Time, in which “John Perkins relates his encounters with the Bugis of Indonesia, the Shuar of the Amazon, the Quechua of the Andes, and other psychonavigators around the world. He explains how the people of these tribal cultures navigate to a physical destination or to a source of inner wisdom by means of visions and dream wanderings. Learn to attract the inner guidance you seek.”

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

and this is relevant to what he had to say in Confessions of an Economic Hit Man how?

you think all that book was lies (and there is plenty of information out there that confirms his story, the value of his story lies in the compiled in one place details and first hand confession) because he isn't a pure as the driven snow protestant Christian?

get real. "conspiracies hatched in hell don't have angels for witnesses." Some prosecutor said that.

Anonymous said...

Well, it's nuclear or fossil fuels (of which plenty more are accessible thanks to fracking, and the resulting carbon dioxide doesn't seem to be raising the temperature) or lights-out. Green energy is produced when nature says so but energy is needed when man needs it and there is no known way of strong it on such scales so as to buffer between supply and demand.

Let the people decide; all I ask is an honest debate setting out what are and aren't the alternatives.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/human-interest/12-things-that-only-the-working-poor-truly-understand/

OMOTS said...

I am revising my theory....the author of "Common Sense Renewed", who is undoubtedly the same person who contracted for the building of the Georgia Guidestones, is NOT Donald Keys as I had originally thought. The man who wrote "Common Sense Renewed" (pseudonym "Robert Christian"), is, I believe, the same man who authored the FORWARD to Key's book, "Earth at Omega". That man is of course, Norman Cousins. I had hoped Constance would respond, or that there were still a few researchers here who could help validate my conclusion, or, offer evidence to dispute it. Unfortunately, it appears those with such talents have long ago abandoned this blog.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Looking over both online, there are some similarities, https://books.google.com/books?id=JRhl-vNcbooC&pg=PR4&lpg=PR4&dq=%22earth+at+omega%22+forward&source=bl&ots=9qyV5GrKpX&sig=-aNMnokES9a_m_Mu_-vntEJTU88&hl=en&sa=X&ei=aoyYVNmvGMncoASWxoLgDQ&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22earth%20at%20omega%22%20forward&f=false

http://govtslaves.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Common-Sense-Renewed.pdf

frankly I don't think you can draw a conclusion when a lot of the ideas are the common pool they draw on, though both mention Thomas Paine of course. Both writers are boring. platitudes and nonsense. Cousins seems to have a more aggressive call to arms so to speak tone.

More to the point, get a copy of Cousins' handwriting and compare to the signature and book number in the copy at google books. That will solve the issue.

OMOTS said...

Thank you, the handwriting comparison was a good tip, but wishing to remain anonymous may have made "Robert Christian" change his normal style to help conceal his identity. However, from the samples I could find, Norman Cousins signature does NOT appear to be similar to the signature of "Robert Christian", which is quite unique in style. I have not been able to find any samples of Donald Keys' handwriting for comparison. As you said, Constance, these were like minded men writing/sharing about common themes. Whoever "Robert Christian" was, he claimed to represent a "group of men" who were united behind the ideals outlined on the Guidestones. The evidence for Cousins being "R.C" includes, besides the "Tom" Paine refs and similar ideas presented throughout his many books and articles, (i.e. especially notable: his emphasis on a "world court" and "a new language") Cousins was diagnosed with several medical issues, including cancer in 1977, followed by heart disease. He had a massive heart attack in 1980 but lived on. The man who wrote "Common Sense REnewed" and called himself "Robert Christian"... claimed he was near the end of his life when he commissioned the Guidestones sometime around 1979. Common Sense Renewed was published in 1986 where the author claims he was near the end of his life and commissioned the Guidestones as a lasting monument to his (obviously shared) "universal" ideals. Cousins was an optimist and hoped, like Keys, that his shared ideals would eventually come to fruition. He managed to hang on to life until 1990, but nobody seems to have seen an obituary or know when Keys died. Do you still have connections to his family? Do you have any samples of Keys' handwriting? If any of your readers can find a sample online, it would be interesting to compare Keys to "Robert Christian". THanks for the response regardless.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"Do you still have connections to his family?"

Who is that addressed to, I didn't know anyone here had connections to his family.

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The homeless billionaire... Did anyone else notice his picture was made with stuffed animals? The man doesn't have a home but he has stuffed animals. Oh, wait, they are a lion and a lamb. How Biblical. If that isn't suggestive I don't know what is.

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