Monday, October 27, 2014

April 1981 New Age Journal Ad re "Maitreya" -- "adult man in modern city" then

Rummaging through my 33 year collection of New Age Journals, some preceding my discovery of the New Age Movement which I purchased at local New Age outlets, I found the following.  Mr. Creme then claimed that the figure he was promoting was a fully adult man living in a modern city in the world.  He did not out with his London story until five days after our first radio debate in May, 1981.  At that time, Mr. Creme was more than startled that I had rightfully tied him to the larger New Age Movement.  I have been reviewing my library and duplicate papers that were returned to me from University of Michigan, Bentley Historical Library reviewing and archiving of same.  I had not seen these earlier ads which predated my discovery of Benjamin Creme and his mission, but I have reproduced three of several ads in my collection of New Age Journals.  A variety of ads announcing the various speaking engagements Mr. Creme would be undertaking were listed on this ad.  One of them was even in my home town of Fort Wayne, Indiana.  This was prior to my hearing Benjamin Creme speak in Detroit on November 4, 1981.  I thought you might find it interesting, and this should serve to exonerate the young Pakistani man. RAJ PATEL, that many think was Creme's candidate.  Raj Patel would have been a 9 year old child in 1981 -- not a "mature adult." 

New Age Journal, April 1981

New Age Journal, October 1981

New Age Journal December 1981
Thought you might find this interesting.  Stay tuned!

CONSTANCE

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Constance Cumbey said...

If you are listening to Bob Larson, you really have problems!

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Looking at Vatican news today, it now appears to me that what is going on is a forum on the FAMILY not a New World Religion syncretistic type event. I'm still reading up on it.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Given same sex marriage and the confusion in many churches now on homosexuality, I would say that a defense of the traditional family was and is badly needed!

Constance

Anonymous said...

Yes Constance, it is a 'family' meeting. Necessary all round I would think.(Pope and Rick Warren etc).http://www.christiantoday.com/article/rick.warren.to.speak.on.biblical.marriage.at.popes.conference.today/43180.htm

Just leaving this 50 yr old piece which I'm sure has been left here in the past re the ecumenical movement in the RC Church.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html

Gathering the people of God together is not about any NEW kind of religion that suits a One World Govt (quite the contrary I would think).....It's difficult to get people to understand this.

From OZ

Anonymous said...

No response to my question at 6:43 P.M?

Reality is glossed over here by religion speak!

This blog has become of no value. It should be renamed: What Susanna, Constance, and the Pope think.

Anonymous said...

Krishnamurphy was Irish, the Dalai Llama is from South America, and I prefer proff in my pudding.

Anonymous said...

Poster at 10:56 P.M.

Matthew 7:22

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

You know the rest.

Anonymous said...

The Pope has left South America with his Dalai Llama and Susanna is strewing proff on their path.

Anonymous said...

While this thread has been going on, Muslims - who deny the divinity of Jesus Christ and take a much darker view of the Creator God than Jews - have been praying, by invitation, in the National Cathedral in Washington (last Friday, November 14). According to Islamic theology this cathedral is now Islamic ground. Thank God for Rep Gohmert of Texas who protested on the floor of the House and for a brave woman who went in openly and protested during the prayers:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/11/17/why-a-woman-drove-to-washington-from-tennessee-to-protest-muslim-prayers-at-the-national-cathedral/

Anonymous said...

Constance

On your 1:11am post-

It is a FAMILY forum.

ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!?!?!

Did you really expect them to bill this as "A Forum To Form A One World Religion?"

Your 1:06am post

I highly doubt the names you mentioned are going to have more influence in ushering in a one world religion than:

Pope Francis
Rick Warren
Kenneth Copeland
Joel Osteen
The Arnotts
Leaders of Jewish Faith
Leaders of Islamic Faith

All joninng with the Pope.

Then it is YOU, that OBVIOUSLY, does not see much.

Anonymous said...

http://www.christianpost.com/news/rick-warren-russell-moore-warn-against-current-sexual-revolution-defend-marriage-at-vatican-conference-with-pope-francis-129901/ More on the 'family' meeting.

From OZ

Anonymous said...

This is how you know the devil is very crafty. Even Constance can miss the forest that is in those trees. The forest is right before our eyes in the New Age New Order all of things religious! Pitting them against each other? Yeah, he's tried that ruse already. But he is very clever in a new different strategy now! (start whistling kumbaya here).

Come outside the camp if you are a Christian and join Jesus. That was always were He was found.....outside the camp. (people need to seriously ask themselves who is their allegiance to). Because many are called few are chosen and the way of life is on the narrow path.



Jesus said that.

Marko said...

Constance,

As I see it, the strategy of "pitting of fundamentalists (monotheists) against each other" might seem to be in play to some extent, but the animosity between Christianity and Islam goes well beyond some New Age strategy thought up by some of their more prominent proponents.

It is an historical division that goes back to Biblical times.

It may very well be that the Antichrist and world religion comes from Islam. The rapid spread of Islam and its slow-but-sure taking over of the West is well underway.

I find it interesting that the Bible speaks of the believers in the last days being beheaded for their stand in Christ. Interesting, isn't it, that that is the preferred method of execution of "infidels" by adherents of Islam?


Anonymous said...

The pope (and new friends)and the tea party have a lot in common. Both trying to change direction to lead folks on the bridge that leads to nowhere.



It is time for Jesus to come. It is soon and not later. Religion and politics have each had their go at it and now as a twosome, both are and will be, an epic fail. (danger ahead if anyone is interested)

Marko said...

Addendum / further clarification:

"might seem to be in play" is too much of an understatement. Obviously there is a lot of animosity between the monotheistic religions. I'm only questioning the tendency you have to see ALL such infighting as a result of what some New Agers said they would try to put in place (the Armageddon Script, etc). Some of it might be the direct result of New Age influence, but I think a lot of it isn't.

Anonymous said...

Archbishop Chares J. Chaput on the popes visit to the U.S.

"As I've said many times before, I believe that the Holy Father will bring all of us-Catholic and non-Catholic alike together in tremendously powerful, uniting and healing ways".

We see clearly that the pope is not only working to bring unity with protestants, but also with Mormons, Muslims, Hindus, pagans etc. etc.

However,

Luke 12:51-52

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.

So is the popes big push to bring unity something that Yahushua is supporting? Would the Lord want the sheep and the goats to pasture together? His sheep with apostates, New Agers, pagans, Muslims, Hindus, Budists etc. etc.???? Of course not!

So why is the pope seen as some great christian leader, and many of the very folks the pope is drawing together are spoken out against here? Why is the ringleader good, while those he is leading bad?

Total hypocrasy!!!!

Constance wake up! All your wonderful works to expose the New Age agenda, and those key players moving that agenda along, are being pushed into the abyss by one of the biggest players, if not THE biggest player of all.

Anonymous said...

Crisis = Opportunity.

Any of the "positive" moves on the world scene and in the negative ones too are doing the 'work' now.

Be shrewd brethren. Harmless as doves and wise as serpents. The Lord is at hand.

Anonymous said...

Marko, either way the evil one is using it.

Constance Cumbey said...

Dear Oz:

Thanks for your comments. I just read the Christian Today article and was interested to see that Helen Alvare was a spokesman. Probably 20 years ago more or less she was the speaker at an important Right to Life of Michigan event. I hosted a radio program, LAW TALK, on WMUZ Radio (a Crawford Station) for 13 years. She was a guest on my radio program and I had the honor of taking her to the airport. She was a delightful and well informed person. Thanks for bringing back that memory and I'm happy that she is apparently still keeping the family issues faith she eloquently spoke for then still alive and well.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Two truthful, well written posts at www.seraphicpress.com

How To Gruber for the PalNazis and Other Lessons from the Media

November 19, 2014 post

and

PalNazi Slaughter Jews in Prayer, Obama Gruber's For Islam

November 18, 2014 post

Constance Cumbey said...

To all:

It sure beat the attempted Synod "blessing" on same sex marriages. Lutheran churches in Scandinavia have sometimes even been forced to perform them.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

For the record, the WASHINGTON CATHEDRAL is under the Episcopalians NOT the Roman Catholics.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Here are the churches that are favorable and/or offered accommodation to same sex marriages (and as regards the "Reformed Catholic Church" and "Liberal Catholic Church" both are New Age entities. The Liberal Catholic Church was founded by Theosophist Henry Ledbetter):

3 Churches favorable to same-sex union and/or same-sex marriage
3.1 Episcopalian polities
3.1.1 Anglicanism
3.1.1.1 Anglican Church of Canada
3.1.1.2 Episcopal Church of the USA
3.1.1.3 England
3.1.1.4 Old Catholic, Reformed Catholic Churches and Liberal Catholic Church
3.2 Church of Sweden and Denmark
3.2.1 Argentina
3.2.2 Austria
3.2.3 Canada
3.2.4 Denmark
3.2.5 Germany
3.2.6 Iceland
3.2.7 Netherlands
3.2.8 Norway
3.2.9 Philippines
3.2.10 Sweden
3.2.11 United Kingdom
3.2.12 United States
3.3 Presbyterian polities
3.3.1 Church of Scotland
3.3.2 Presbyterian Church in Ireland
3.3.3 Presbyterian Church (USA)
3.4 Connexional polities
3.4.1 Methodism
3.5 Congregational polities
3.5.1 Baptist Churches
3.5.2 Quakers
3.5.3 United Church of Christ
3.5.4 Canadian Unitarian Council
3.5.5 Unitarian Universalist Association
3.5.6 Metropolitan Community Church
3.5.7 Mennonite Church
3.5.8 Pentecostalism
3.5.9 Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
3.6 Mixed-polity and other polity
3.6.1 Moravian Church (North America)
3.6.2 Swedenborgianism
3.6.3 Uniting Church in Australia
3.6.4 Protestant Church in the Netherlands
3.6.5 United Church
3.6.6 New Apostolic Church

Shockingly, Mennonite Churches in the Netherlands have performed same sex marriages.

The Catholics have their faults to be sure, but at least for the moment, on an official basis, they have held the line on abortion, euthanasia, and marriage between man and woman issues.

Constance

Anonymous said...

I will no longer send people to this blog. Has become confusion and we know who the author of that is (well some do).

Anonymous said...

Bravo!!!!

Spot on as Susanna says!

Anonymous said...

Constance 11:08 A.M

Yes, but the Vatican is in bed with everyone!

Anonymous said...

LOL! Nice joke about Deep Hack. He is for HeartMath, well, his version. TM is illegal in public schools as of 1979 law but let's watch Oprah and Deep Pit Cobra try and mainstream it with brain entrainment.

Well said Constance, termites indeed.

Anonymous said...

Constance is ABC, (anything but catholic) when it comes to exposing liberal religionists.

Anonymous said...

All these ignorant Protestants will fall in with the pope. Its happening now!

Anonymous said...

Life in Israel Today

thegoldenreport.net/?p=1651

Marko said...

I live in Mennonite territory. It's somewhat heartening to see a couple of local Mennonite churches "break" from the parent Mennonite Church over the issue of homosexual marriage or having homosexuals in the pastorate.

http://tinyurl.com/noa2eyg

Richard said...

Marko wrote: "For example, the Kings from the East that will cross the Euphrates River when it dries up (Revelation 16) was always thought to be China, because well, China has a 200-million-man army. But... it's looking more and more like it will be a confederation of nations, like China, Iran, and Russia."

Perhaps Japan, the Koreas, and SE Asia joining China?

Russia & Iran are certainly not 'kings of the land of the sun rising', as it is translated from Greek.

Then again, they could be allies of the Orient.

Constance Cumbey said...

Barbara Marx Hubbard and the Nuns -- obviously of deepest conern.

Jean Houston and Catholic conferences -- obviously of deepest concern.

Matthew Fox, Thomas Berry, Thomas Keating, Basil Pennington, Richard Rohr -- obviously of deepest concern.

Catholic Church promotion of deep ecology (Thomas Berry, Matthew Fox, et al) -- always of deepest concern.

Catholic Church promotion of Centering Prayer and other altered state methods -- DEEP CONCERN.

Catholic Church (and Protestant) promotions of "Dignity Masses" -- always of deepest concern and to be avoided.

Catholic Church promotions of various syncretisms (Maryknolls, Paulist, etc.) -- always of deepest concerna nd to be avoided -- at first this is what I thought this conference was based on the information I googled after reading the posting about the Rick Warren, Pope Francis items) - always of deepest concern and to be avoided.

Bro. David Steindl-Rast anything -- always to be avoided (he is a close friend of David Spangler and William Irwin Thompson) but has managed to sneak himself into some conservative Catholic publishing distribution channels

CATHOLIC PROMOTION OF TRADITIONAL FAMILY VALUES -- Context will clearly have to be examined before passing judgment. As persecution is spreading to those rejecting same sex marriage and homosexual values, all opposed are now coming under secular judgment and even persecution. Southern Poverty Law Center has now labeled even Dr. Ben Carson as an extremist because he opposes same sex marriage and homosexual values being foisted upon us.

TEST ALL THINGS, HOLD FAST TO THAT WHICH IS GOOD ... neither ABC nor NBC will do for that one.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

To add to my last list:

Yoga anywhere -- Catholic or Protestant -- always of concern!

Reikki anywhere -- Catholic or Protestant -- always of concern.

Feldenkreis anywhere -- Catholic or Protestant -- always of concern (local Jesuits in my corner of Michigan guilty of this one).

"Cosmic Christ" anywhere -- ALWAYS OF DEEPEST CONCERN (Teilhard de Chardin, Matthew Fox, Thomas Merton et al).

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

I'm trying very hard, with the help of God not to be ABC nor NBC but as the godly King Josiah, Neither to the right hand nor to the left, but strictly in the paths of the Lord!

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Knowing what I know about Doug Coe, Fellowship Foundation, Christianity Today, Paul N. Temple, etc., ad nauseum, it is hard to be as rapturous about the Evangelical community as one might think I should be.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Many are cold but few are frozen.

Anonymous said...

Yes Constance, thank God for people like Helen Alvare. I didn't realise you'd dealt with her.

Once upon a time 'family' went without saying and in no time at all that most basic societal structure is falling by the wayside. So, I sincerely hope that everyone involved in the meeting from the various denominations etc goes back to their churches, parishes, etc and keeps promoting the absolute importance of marriage (once only till death do they part) and family life. Marriage is actually sacred.




Feel very sad for what Ben Carson has had to endure because he dared to say out loud what is right and what isn't. Its an upside down world. Right is wrong and wrong is fabulous.

From OZ

Susanna said...

Dear OZ,

Ben Carson is considering a run for President of the United States. I would vote for him in a New York minute!

I am sure he is aware of what he will be up against.

By the way, there is an excellent movie about Ben Carson starring Cuba Gooding in the role of Ben Carson, a renowned brain surgeon who overcame obstacles to change the course of medicine forever. I have seen the movie and I think it is excellent.

GIFTED HANDS: THE BEN CARSON STORY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gifted_Hands:_The_Ben_Carson_Story

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1295085/

Susanna said...

Anonymous 3:06 P.M.

Brilliant!

I will bet the crime rate is temporarily down for now.

Anonymous said...

The powers that be won't let him become president. They never want another Kennedy. Kennedy was not perfect, but he wasn't sold out to Satan.

Marko said...

Re: Constance, 2:41, turning neither to the right or the left...

What about:

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." - (Ecclesiastes 10:2)

Biblical justification for conservatism! :^D

(That's what I tell my liberal friends, anyway.)

Anonymous said...

Hi Susannah, yes, I've seen the movie about Ben Carson with Cuba....I loved it.(I also admire his Mother).Dr Carson used to be over here in OZ for a while when he started out, my daughter works at that same hospital! I do try to keep up with all things Ben and it was this:http://mic.com/articles/31933/ben-carson-forced-to-withdraw-as-john-hopkins-graduation-speaker-after-comparing-gays-to-pedophiles

that made me feel sad for him. Everyone knew exactly what Ben was saying when trying to make the point about marriage being a pillar of society but of course certain ones get on the bandwagon and away they go. Thought it'd have been very right for Ben to speak considering he was finishing up at that time. And you'd think that the staff and students would know full well what Ben had been trying to get across when he made his comments.Also, seeings he's a doctor, a man of science, its certainly refreshing to hear him say out loud that God is responsible for our creation. Not some big bang, some stardust and time.................

From OZ

Anonymous said...

Marko,

It isn't biblical justification for conservatism. The right hand path seeks the Lords wisdom, and choses to walk in it. The left hand path is following the flesh, and all its desires. Politics is certainly the arm of the flesh from whatever side you choose.

It is hard to not mess with the liberals though!

Constance Cumbey said...

Add to my lists above:

LABYRINTH anything -- Catholic or Protestant -- strictly a New Age altered consciousness device -- no moatter how "ancient" claimed to be.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

And another addition: JACOB BOEHME and/or his disciple WILLIAM LAW anything! Again, this includes both Protestant and Catholic circles and even reaches down into fundamentalist/evangelical ones.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Marine Dad Takes Stand After Daughter Gets 'F' for Refusing Islamic Indoctrination

www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=28387

Constance Cumbey said...

On the air right now discussing these issues.

www.tmeradio.com

Join us!

Constance

Anonymous said...

'America and the Vatican Seeking a Global Covenant of World Religions'

www.end-times-prophecy.org/end-times-news.html

Anonymous said...

I have recently come across some information about a Taoist monk and practitioner Liu Ming who supposedly had a close relationship with Pope Francis as well as treating him medically while in Argentina.

Is this true? I can find lots of entries on the Internet but none that confirm if its really true.

Anonymous said...

To Anon10.56pm,

Don't you mean the Albigensians (also known as Cathars) rather than the Waldensians? The Waldensians were much nearer to biblical Christianity than medieval Rome was, whereas the Albigensians were heretical dualists (not that that justifies Innocent III's genocide against them).

Constance Cumbey said...

To 6:00 a.m. and ALL:

I just did my own googled search on the alleged relationship between the Tao medical practitioner and found this story on line. You might want to check it and reach your own conclusions. It looks to me like the Taoists of the world are bragging about it:

http://www.traditioninaction.org/bev/160bev10_30_2013.htm

Here is a tiny url link:

http://tinyurl.com/knoxwhz

Also, about the NOW THE END BEGINS website: I have reservations about it, especially now that I know it is a "Hebrew Roots" oriented site and is emphatically pre-tribulation rapture. But their links to ongoing news can be valuable. Check everything for yourself -- don't necessarily accept as gospel that site's interpretations of what they report.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Also, to all and to my family:

TODAY is our 40th wedding anniversary to my husband Barry!

Constance

Anonymous said...

Blessings to you Constance, your husband Barry, any all your family.

Anonymous said...

Congratulations to you and your husband Constance. Just wonderful.

From OZ.

Anonymous said...

The real origin of the New Age...

http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/

Anonymous said...

America on Deathwatch

parablesblog.blogspot.com

Saturday, November 22, 2014 post

Anonymous said...

Constance @ 4:59

What is your conclusion? Does the Pope have some new age friends and contacts that we didn't know about?

Susanna said...

Dear Constance,

Congratulations to you and your husband on your 40th wedding anniversary!

Anonymous said...

'Beginning of the End' of U.S. as 'One Nation'

the conservativewife.blogspot.com

November 24, post

Anonymous said...

Ferguson riots: Ruling sparks night of violence

www.BBC.com/news/world-us-canada-30190224

Anonymous said...

Ferguson: How to Burn, Allah, Burn

www.seraphicpress.com/ferguson-how-to-burn-allah-burn/#more-22999

Anonymous said...

No one has anything to contribute about Pope Francis and His Tao practitioner and friend?

Or that he was present and invited Episcopal Bishop Swing to celebrate the 10 year anniversary of the United Religous Initiative's presence in South America at HIS cathedral?

Where are the new age experts here? Or does that only apply if we are NOT talking about the Pope?

If Javier Solana had met with someone like that and had a Tao friend, we would be hearing all about it!!

Better yet, if Solana's father had even been in the same room with someone like that 50 years ago, we would probably have an entire thread dedicated to that.

Is the new age SELECTIVELY exposed here?

Anonymous said...

3:40 pm....

You have access to Google, I'm assuming. Nobody's stopping you from reporting what you find.

Regarding last week's megameet between all the nasty bad guys from C.H.A.O.S. (ie, the interfaith meeting with the Pope), from the ONE report I read (not a great sampling, admittedly), the Pope issued a call to be "radical". And not the "I'm a Marxist just like my daddy" radicalism of Obama, either. The culture of death that surrounds us has become so pervasive and perverted, that to stand against it and to stand for traditional Christian principles is now by definition, radical. If that's the only thing the Pope had to say, then I'm behind him 100%.

But I'm still waiting for all the people who went apoplectic last week about the interfaith meeting that was held to report back here all the awful, horrible things that were said.

Please don't misconstrue my sarcasm for lack of concern regarding interfaith meetings. But really, if it was such a Really Bad Event, surely there would be something of record that we could all be pointed to for further discussion or contemplation?

Here's my submission, from the one source I mentioned above:

http://spectator.org/articles/61007/protestants-should-heed-pope-week

Anonymous said...

Anon 5:29

I really didn't expect that anything bad would be reported at all. Wasn't expecting all these "awful" things. It played exactly as I thought, kinda flew under the radar, the peace, love, finding the common moral ground in family between most of the worlds major faiths of which more than a few on the guest list are crooks, frauds, and non-believers in the sense that they would deny Jesus as the Son of God and who He really was, which I've heard around here is a kinda simple test for "spirit of anthichrist".

And yes, I do have access to google and can report anything.

It's just really disappointing that you can't find anyone willing to engage in conversation about the new age unless you keep it to the usual suspects.

There have been catholic new age sources that have been exposed here, but,they are pretty obvious ones that information can be obtained rather easily.

This is not about being anti-catholic. I am anti-whoever tries to deceive and fraud through religion and spirituality.

No matter what denomination they embrace.

Anonymous said...

Give it a little time will ya?

These alliances are being built for a reason and that is to aid the social engineering of the globalists whether they do this knowingly or not. Next year the real effects will turn up. Just wait and see...

There is a huge difference between true unity and uniformity. Time will tell which this is.

Susanna said...

Dear Constance 4:59

FYI

"Tradition in action" is a radical traditionalist website which Catholics are advised to avoid. To put it as you often do, I wouldn't buy a used car from these people.

Here is the website review from Catholic Culture:

WEBSITE REVIEW: TRADITION IN ACTION
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/reviews/view.cfm?recnum=3026

The Ephesians 511 Blogspot appears to be the same circus with different clowns.

I don't believe what either one has to say about the "New Age therapies" Liu Ming allegedly administered to Pope Francis when he was Archbishop of Buenos Aires.

Even if he did, I would still have to ask what kind of a physician other than a snake-oily quack looking for his fifteen minutes of fame would violate the privacy of any of his patients by going public with the details of his patient's ailments and treatments administered as Liu Ming seems to have done?

The paper that conducted the interview with Liu Ming is an Argentinian weekly tabloid known as Perfil which is based in Buenos Aires.

This rag nearly went bankrupt before being morphed from a daily to a weekly publication and is not exactly renowned for its objectivity...much like Tradition in Action.


Anonymous said...

"I am anti-whoever tries to deceive and fraud through religion and spirituality"

Here is a good sermon on just that topic!

judahslion.blogspot.com

Monday, November 17, 2014 post

'Christian Television An Epic Spiritual Blight'

Craig said...

I'm somewhat familiar with the author, Rick Frueh, of Following Judah's Lion; but, I'll take exception to the following:

Even the so called orthodox ones like Stanley and Rogers and the others have been made partakers of their evil deeds because the allure and the wellspring of money via television is far too enticing...

I presume he means Charles Stanley and Adrian Rogers (the later deceased for nearly a decade). While no ministry is perfect, I don't think either of these are/were in it for the money. Rather, I think these two (and regarding the Rogers' ministry which rebroadcasts old sermons) intend/ed on shining light upon the darkness of those ungodly hucksters to which Frueh refers.

Sadly, the only ones named are the ones actually preaching REAL sermons. Why didn't he name names of the false teachers instead?

Constance Cumbey said...

To Anonymous 3:34 -- I looked at it and am still "rolling on the floor laughing!"

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Re my response at 4:59:

Does the Pope have some New Age friends we didn't know about?

If the article is true, there are apparently some issues -- the I Ching gift claim particularly disturbed me.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

To 3:40

What is your take on Paul N. Temple and half the Evangelical establishment. Paul N. Temple is the co-founder of the INSTITUTE OF NOETIC SCIENCES?

Does that not bother you? Yes, I'm bothered by the alleged New Age friend of the Pope, but far more bothered by the widespread control over most of Evangelical society by those Paul Temple and Rev. Moon bought and paid for.

Constance

Anonymous said...

Bishop Swing's great-grandfather?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Swing

Anonymous said...

Constance @ 10:29pm

Oh YES! That bothers me too!

It just doesn't bother me MORE than the Pope and his new evangelical friends and crooks.

They are also crooks and frauds and people should know he truth about them as well. But it's not very hard to expose them for what they are. They make it pretty easy.

I'm MORE worried about the ones who are very skilled at pushing an agenda under the guise of something else.

It's called deception. And I feel that the really dangerous ones, are those who are not so easily picked out of the crowd.

Not the obvious ones.

paul said...

I'm going out into the Morphogenetic Field and take down a dead tree today.
Hopefully my Karma will be a plus $ 450.00.

Anonymous said...

And not the falling limb kind of Karma.

Anonymous said...

Now if the popes new evangelical friends are crooks and phonies, then so indeed is the pope. This is the truth of the matter, that those with eyes to see, can clearly see. That those who truly understand the gosphel, truly understand.

Richard said...

Constance,

Thank you for your comments.

In what sense do you think Pember could have been deceived? I think he was knowledgeable of Eastern belief systems. Do you not think that the aerial phenomena (with which we know Satan and the angels have something to do) will play a role in the entrance of the Anticristos and his pantheism religion? The silly trend now is to say he will be Muslim!

My thought here is that the Christian world should consider that this Man of Sin in his desire to overthrow God could appear not from any nation on Earth, but rather from the heavens. Scripture and our researches point to the concept of a savior presenting himself at the onset of a great cataclysm, perhaps one of the upcoming nuclear exchanges, just as Christ will come in 'clouds' to stop the great war in Jezreel.

He said the deception would be so powerful that even the chosen would be fooled if possible. I cannot see some flaccid politico from the EU or the "Ottoman Empire" suddenly getting the attention of a world in such a crisis where nukes are going off.

An entity walking out of a celestial craft, yes.

Again, it is a speculation, but based on scripture.





Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC - UPDATE FROM THE EU - Might we be seeing the start of a single global currency & taxation?

Around the globe small and soloprenteurs of digital goods/services are (in the 11th hour) discovering for the first time that they have about five weeks left to comply with the new EU VAT laws on digital services which come into effect on January 1st 2014. It has come like a bolt out of the blue and already we're starting to hear some of small and start-up businesses within the EU say they will have to close down. Others, selling into the EU are saying they will probably decide to stop sales to EU countries rather than try to comply with the data collection requirements and tax registration and payment system.

Rita de la Feria is respected by tax folk around the world and writes the following review clearly explaining the history and planned future for the new EU wide taxation on e-services which includes books, downloads and much more and the future plans to extend this to physical goods

http://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/embed_code/40681204

It's a harsh ruling which has been planned behind closed doors with little or no concern for the smallest businesses of whom it hits the hardest. The passing of this through parliament and media reporting on this has always focussed on it being introduced to stop multinational corporations that trade online - such as Amazon or Google - from diverting all their European sales through low-VAT countries. Hidden in the EU paperwork it becomes clear that instead of levelling the playing field it will drive SMEs to the multinationals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/11254829/New-EU-VAT-rules-threaten-to-kill-UK-micro-firms.html

To witness some of this outrage visit Twitter #VATMOSS or view the comments at the petition here, https://www.change.org/p/vince-cable-mp-uphold-the-vat-exemption-threshold-for-businesses-supplying-digital-products?recruiter=188073916&utm_campaign=twitter_link_action_box&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition

I'm not a finance person and would be very interested to hear what any financial experts have to say.

~ K ~



Anonymous said...

Correction ... that should read January 1st 2015.

~ K ~

Susanna said...

To All:

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Marko said...

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Anonymous said...

Yes Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
God, by his grace and mercy, is good to all.

Anonymous said...

Obamacare offers firms $3,000 incentive to hire illegals over native born workers

www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/25/obama-amnesy-obamacare-clash-business-have-3000/print/

Anonymous said...

It is easy to see now, that even though the recent elections were good for the Republican party, nothing will even slow down the march toward globalism, and the complete destruction of our Constitution.

Even as I write this, tens of millions are readying to storm the malls, and retail stores of this nation in search of all those necessities that our collective souls lust after. They will fight, claw, and trample their way to the best deals. The powers that be see this herd mentality, and can rest assured that we are already toast!

That huge new flat screen television is the carrot on a stick.

Anonymous said...

Occultist Tracy Twyman Spills the Beans

theopenscroll.blogspot.com

November 27,2014 post

Constance Cumbey said...

Sorry, gone a couple of days -- and catching up with my thoughts on Ferguson and related OCCUPY MOVEMENT riots -- that's right, OCCUPY MOVEMENT~

Ferguson related riots are a subset of the OCCUPY MOVEMENT; THE OCCUPY MOVEMENT is a subset of the NEW AGE MOVEMENT.

I have made many pages of notes and documentation on this -- will be discussing it on my internet radio program tomorrow morning: www.tmeradio.com.

CONSTANCE

Anonymous said...

http://www.wnd.com/2014/11/top-occupy-organizer-trained-ferguson-protesters/

And we know that Occupy was a fave of Barb Marx Hubbard, Marianne Williamson etc etc etc and so on so forth......

From Oz

Anonymous said...

Speaking of New Age

Pope Francis in Turkey Calls For End All Forms Of Religious Fundamentalism

www.nowtheendbegins.com

November 28, 2014 post

paul said...

How did the Occupy people get so self righteous ?
How do all those people in Ferguson figure that they know better than the unanimous Grande Jury that had 3 African Americans on it ?
Isn't this all indicative of a huge percentage of the population being severely dumbed down and easy to manipulate ?
They believe the rumors online ( which is where they live ), over a Grand Jury !
God help us.

Anonymous said...

The pope praying side by side with Islam acknowledging Allah the moon god.

Unbelievable!!!!

Anonymous said...

The Occupy Movement doesn't have anything to do with the Ferguson riots.

Anonymous said...

Well said Paul

Anonymous said...

Allah is not the moon god; this is an oft-repeated mistake. Linguistically, the name just means "THE god", but Muslims now apply it to the God spoken of in the Quran. This is a view of the Creator God spoken of in the Old Testament - so cannot be a moon god as the moon is part of creation - but with a personality different from that revealed in the Old Testament. We can guess who gave Muslims the wrong idea of the personality of the Creator. (So Allah isn't him either; there simply is no volitional spirit being who created the world and man and who has the personality inferred from the Quran.)

The moon god theory came from the fact that this was supposedly the one god Muhammad didn't destroy in the Kaaba in Mecca, and was the most popular pagan god among the Arabs at the time. None of that is from trustworthy sources.

Anonymous said...

Yes he is the moon god. You are wrong.

Anonymous said...

4:12 PM

(Is that you, Christine?)
Because the point is the wrong god is the wrong god and what does someone who is supposed to be a christian hanging out in a spiritual setting/context doing with a muslim and their false god?

Your answer makes me think of Christine because she is good at making moot and/or needless or flat out wrong points.

Anonymous said...

Christine doesn't live here anymore.

Marko said...

Anon 12:54 pm....

I would disagree. In one news story I saw, there was someone wearing one of those "anonymous" masks in the crowd, which you see on the more arrogant, in-your-face Occupy types that tend toward anarchy and other disruptive actions.

If not on an organizational level, the Occupy movement, New Age movement, Marxist/Communist/Leninist and other revolutionary (or "anti-tradition") groups are allied philosophically and "spiritually". Spiritually in the sense that they are specifically opposed to Christianity in all its forms, which makes them on the wrong side of the spiritual battle that is going on all around us.

Marko said...

Constance,

Sorry I missed your show Saturday, which supposedly covered the tie-ins between Occupy and Ferguson.

Hopefully you can provide a summary here of what you talked about.

Anonymous said...

What is wrong around here?!?!

The Pope was praying in a mosque and FACING TOWARDS MECCA WHEN HE PRAYED and you all are interested in how the Ferguson riots relate to Occupy?

Are you serious?!?!?!

I still don't see the Pope "sitting anyone down" and straightening them out. I see him JOINING in Muslim prayer.

Can't wait to hear the excuses for this.

Even Paul's boy Shoebat had a write up on this, wondering what the heck the Pope is doing.

I'll tell you what he's doing. He's ushering in the beginnings of a one world religion.

And don't even try to explain. A CHRISTIAN DOES NOT face Mecca when he/she prays just to appease an anti Christ religion.

In Constance's own words for testing the "spirit of antichrist".

Anonymous said...

Dear 4.21pm, you wrote to Anon@4.12pm (me), "Yes he [Allah] is the moon god. You are wrong." That's plain speaking, so let me do the same: Prove it or retract. And to 5.00pm, no I am not Christine, and the point I am making about the identity of Allah is purely about that issue. If I wish to comment about Pope Francis' engagement with Muslims then I shall do it explicitly.

Anonymous said...

Constance, check out Ted Montgomery's hypothesized timeline concerning the 70th Week of Daniel.

It validates the ENPI as a beginning point for the 70th week.

Anonymous said...

CONSTANCE - we have a huge EU Commission political hot potato being passed around in the UK at the moment. (See my earlier post).

Twitter #VATMOSS

This new tax on digital services means sellers, large, small and micro, across the globe will have to register, collect and pay taxes on sales of all digital goods and services into EU countries. Yes!!! If I was to purchase one of your digital books from a website you owned, You would have to register with the EU MOSS and pay the 20% tax because I'm in the UK. (Selling through Amazon is ok as Amazon collect the VAT).

It's very complicated. Looks like global taxing. And the trail has totally moved beyond my comprehension as it's becoming so political. MPs and MEPs here in the UK are washing their hands of this and saying it's the EU Commission!

It's scarey where this could lead ... or even if it can now be stopped!

~ K ~

paul said...

I wonder if Lisa Fithian knows that according to God, "Those who sow confusion will reap the whirlwind"

paul said...

Yes Islam does worship Isis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4hh0Zxn5Xg

And, according to Kenneth Johnson, EVERY god and goddess in the world (other than Jehovah) is in fact the name of a king, queen or conqueror that lived and ruled as a HUMAN.
Every one of them is just a human who became "deified" by people after their death.
Apollo, Zeus, Isis, Ishtar, Diana, Baal, Osiris, Mars, Jupiter and yes Allah etc, etc...
In fact most of them had tombs and gravesides that could be visited in the time of the church fathers.
Did someone say Islam isn't pagan?
It's pretty obvious that they do not believe any of the Old Testament, other than a few cherry picked verses. Nor do they worship the God of Abraham,
despite that claim.
Pathetic isn't it ?

Anonymous said...

Paul,

There is "folk Islam" in many remote villages in some parts of the Islamic world that mingles quranic Islam with paganism. You can find horrible mixtures of some Christian beliefs with paganism in some places too. But the Quran states explicitly that the god it acknowledges is the creator God spoken of by Jews and Christians - it just asserts that Jews have twisted parts of the Old Testament and Christians parts of the New. Whereas we say that the Quran gets these things wrong.

Be careful about saying who Allah "is". There is semantic confusion between whether you are claiming that a volitional spirit being actually exists as spoken of in the Quran, and whether you are talking about the human belief in such a deity. Christians such as you (Paul) and me believe that the Creator does not have the personality spoken of in the Quran, so in that sense Allah simply does not exist. Yet "Allah" simply means "THE God" and a creator certainly does exist.

Words can gain baggage too if they are not names. Before Muhammad, the word "Allah" would have been an excellent translation of some of the words for God in the Bible. But it now comes with 1600 years of Islamic baggage and I wouldn't advocate it for a modern translation into Arabic.

Let us be glad that Muslims wish to worship the Creator, but let us out of love for them not compromise on telling them that they can learn about Him and His Son in the Bible and nowhere else.

Anonymous said...

CONSTANCE -

Rita de la Feria Professor of Law @DurhamLiawSchool | Programme Director @OxfordTax | Specialises on tax policy, VAT, and EU law | Mother of twins
Durham / Oxford / Lisbon

https://twitter.com/delaFeriaR has just tweeted ...

My contribution to (now urgent!) debate on #VATMOSS: "Implementation of VAT MOSS in UK" https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/article/

~ K ~

paul said...

Anon. @5:22
Thank you for your response.

You're saying that the Muslims in general think that the Jews "changed parts of it" and the Christians changed the New Testament? "It" is the Word of God.
The word of God came through the Jews.
I believe God did the entire text, editing, layout,
calligraphy and font, and He used Moses to do it.
(To the Jew first and then the gentiles who believe)
I have to to stop you right at the top of your kind note. Parts of what ? The Jews twisted parts of their own book?
So instead we should believe the works of a murderous thief/high jacker, who married a nine year old girl and built his own army of thieves, murderers and high jackers, while married to this girl who was the daughter of some tribal Poobah;
and claimed to have had a bunch of visions and started a new kind of, yes, Christianity 670-plus years after Christ? It's originally a cult of Christianity, I get that.
The Edomites and the pagan peoples that surround Jerusalem right now are the very infidels that Christianity is under vicious attack from. They are the definition of infidel and as usual Satan is a liar.
They go on and on about infidels and hardly anyone in the Christian world even uses that term
any more. We have forgotten and/or never been taught what life is like in a Muslim world.
Has anyone out there ever been taught in school what life is like in any islamic country ?
I'm a little older, 58, and I can remember when the curriculum in school was pre New-math pre New Age, Pre Common Freakin' Core.


Anonymous I do appreciate your response but it feels a little like I'm in a World Religions 101 class.

I disagree with most of your sentences until the end when I feel like you really don't realize the
brutality that's going on, Muslim against Christian
and Jew and the Christian and Jewish response is ...muted to say the least. Like cattle.
I was going to say that there is no Christian response anywhere in the world. Where is there Christians brutally, insanely, torturing and murdering Moslems ? Where?
But if you ask where is there Moslems committing
brutal atrocities in the thousands, you should know that it's all over the Islamic world and is now coming to a country where you live. It's mostly flying under the good time american news agencies though, because we're apparently better off stupid ignorant and happy. And the murderous acts mostly involve a limited number of people,
though Boko Harem is good at stealing entire schools of girls nowadays. The slave money is lucrative.
In the middle East
there is Hagar and Ishmael, and then there is Sarah and Isaac. They cannot live together. Israel is given to the Jews and Moab and Edom get all those other lands.

Anonymous said...

Jesus Christ is the Yes and the Amen of GOD. The old testament is the new testament concealed and the new testament is the old testament revealed. So don't try the old 'words' game on me. The bible is God's word period. The fake story of God has been in circulation since the fall of man as a counter, to what God said, but shown false for any interested in actual truth.

Either people believe that or they want to 'fudge it', rewrite it, privately interpret it, whatever, but it is God's Word about himself, making every other idea or take on him false. He gets the last word because he says so.

People can follow a false god or say they follow the real one, as per the bible, but with a false heart. This does not impact God, but them. Let God be true and every man a liar. Romans 4:3

Mohammed was a man, and he is in a grave. God's Son Jesus is not. He definitely has the last word on this and any and every other subject.

So whoever you are, you are barking up the wrong tree thinking I'll buy what you are selling about who God is and what to call him. Folks who are on the fence may buy it. So feel free to be as wrong as you like. Going counter to the Lord's Book puts you at odds with him. I hope you get in the bible with a sincere heart and find out who he really is.

Anonymous said...

Dear 5:22,

If you were speaking where I could hear your voice saying the things you are saying (writing) it would sound like you were talking with a mouthful of marbles.

Be careful not to swallow one of the "marbles" by being tolerant of any of the falsehoods of islam.

If you truly love people then speak clearly by sticking to the truth of the Bible with no apology and in a loving manner.

Anonymous said...

Yes, the Muslims are indeed infidels, that's about the kindest thing you can say about them. But, news of the pope, who is the leader of one point two billion souls praying in some famous mosque, facing Mecca, and, referring to Muslims as "brothers and sisters", most of the fighters of New Age here seem to think its not much of anything to be too concerned with? REALLY????? This man, the pope, is, I feel anyway, perhaps the number one candidate for 'THE' False Prophet, but well, no BIG deal right? We just need to keep close watch on those rainbows and unicorns folks!!!

Anonymous said...

yahoonews.com/pope-says-islamist-violence-syria-iraq-grave-sin-1025540.HTML

Pope says its wrong to equate Islam with violence.

"You just can't say that, just as you can't say that all Christians are fundamentalists"

Then he, (the pope) goes on to further bash christian fundamentalists.

Seems the pope is not well versed with the Koran? The so called 'moderate' Muslims are luke warm, or back sliden Muslims.

The pope is sure on a mission to bunch Islamic terrorists and fundamental christians in the same lump!

Time to wake up and see this deciever for the False Prophet that he is!

Anonymous said...

Dear Paul and Anon@10.24pm,

I am mystified why you think from my post at 5.22pm that I am an apologist for Islam in any shape or form or that I am compromising biblical truth. I am *explaining* some things about Islam and what Muslims believe. Half-truths make the most effective lies, just as they did in the Garden of Eden, and I believe that the half-truths in the Quran about the Creator God and His Son Jesus Christ have the same source. Islam is the greatest threat to Western civilization today and I deplore its 1600-year trail of misery, blood and terror. Do ponder, though, how you would build bridges if you met a Muslim and wished to preach to him. Respect for Jesus of Nazareth as a prophet (which He certainly is) and reverence for the Creator are a mutual start point, and to say so is not to compromise. Of course you must go on from there to preach the full gospel.

Anonymous said...

I would appreciate some input from anyone.

I have several business contacts over the years from people of Turkey and Pakistan who are of the Islamic faith. Some have become my friends. Not in the sense that we gather outside of work, but after years of interacting with them on a daily basis, they have indeed become friends who I care about and treat with as much respect as I would any of my friends whether Christian or not in valuing their friendship.

My issue, or confusion is that if I'm not mistaken (and I may be mistaken), that the Quran says that it wasn't really Jesus on the cross, that basically Allah played some kind of trick where the face resembled Jesus, but was in fact not Him on the cross, and that He was not crucified and risen 3 days later.

Isn't this the ultimate blasphemy?

I'm not saying that we should treat Muslims badly at all as I have stated that more than a few have become my friends.

It's just, where do you draw the line as far as association?

I would not ever pray with them in facing Mecca as I would personally feel that this is blasphemous given that they believe without doubt, that Jesus was not the Son of God. But, I would do anything else for them as I would do for any other friend.

This is not about picking on the Popes recent actions. It's about myself being confused on the issue of where do we draw the line.

There has to be others out there that are confused about this as well and I'm just looking for some genuine feedback.

paul said...

Anon 5:54
I just see your responses as lukewarm:
"..whereas we say that the Quran gets these things wrong...' etc.,
Gets them wrong? How about the Quran is a sack of manure and nothing in it is right?
or,
"...the muslims wish to worship a single creator..."
Really? So what if they claim that? They lie like rugs.
I just think it's time to drop the whole "Muslims are
monotheists just like us. They are "people of the book" mantra.
By their fruits we know them. They are liars and murderers. They high jacked caravans 1400 years ago and now they high jack planes and cars and buses. They also have highjacked words and concepts in order to sow confusion. The so-called peaceful ones are terrified women and children. Islam comes in three stages: 1.Stealth 2. Alleged Victimhood and 3. Conquerors. Right now in America we have stages one and two.
America should round them all up and deport them. Notice I say deport, not behead or enslave.
And certainly not torture for sport and then behead _Or rape and then sell into slavery.
Where is the outrage from all the moderate muslums over the rape, torture and murder of Christians every day in Nigeria, Syria, Sudan and many other places in the name of ulluh. It doesn't exist. When is an American Imam going to declare these things to be wrong? We invite them to have a nice Halel dinner at the White House.
They have declared war on us, remember? They reiterate that declaration of war every day in mosques all across this country.

When Iran lobs a nuke into Saudi Arabia and incinerates Mecca and then turns its sights on Jerusalem, then you'll believe Walid Shoebat and everything he is exposing about Islam.

Anonymous, maybe if you had a name I could distinguish you from all the other Anons and
understand where you're coming from.

Anonymous said...

Dear 6.25am, Sura (chapter) 4 of the Quran, titled An-Nisa (The Women), ayah (verse) 157 is as you say.

I suggest that you draw a clear distinction between Islam and Muslims. The former is a satanically inspired set of half-truths that enslaves people. Muslims are fallen humans in the image of God who desperately need the truth about Jesus Christ. They resist it but so do pagans and atheists. Offering them Jesus Christ, at cost to our own lives if necessary, IS the gospel.

St Paul (from 2 Cor 6): "What fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial?…What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God…Be separate, says the Lord." How separate? We should befriend people of other faiths as we find them in our daily lives; we should unite with people of other faiths against secular evils such as pornographic sex education in schools; we should debate people of other faiths in front of uncommitted audiences (including online) so that the audience can see the Christian position set out and defended. But there is no good in taking part in multifaith gatherings in which people discuss their own religions amongst each other. If prayer is offered at such gatherings, to whom? When people say “I want you to respect my beliefs” the proper reply is “I respect you because you are a human being (in the image of God); in particular I respect your freedom of conscience to hold your beliefs; but I don’t agree with them or else I would hold them myself.” I am called to love Nazis but not Nazism. Same with Muslims and Islam.

Anonymous said...

Paul,

Muslims ARE monotheists, but NOT just like us. The character you impute to the Creator makes an enormous difference. Frankly I wish that Christians showed as much reverence for Yahuweh in our worship nowadays as Muslims show to their Allah. Ultimately though it is all about Jesus Christ. We believe He is divine; Muslims don't. I have said that there can be no compromise on that. I have explained that the Quran is more insidious for containing half-truths than if it were self-evidently nonsense from start to finish. I publicize, in the congregation that I am part of, the fact that the Quran commands physical jihad and that "religion of peace" is a lie

I do consider how to build bridges to Muslims, because of the Great Commission and the fact that our battle is against principalities and powers, not flesh and blood (Ephesians 6). I hope you see that that does not make me a lukewarm Christian.

Anonymous said...

Pope John Paul 2 kissed the koran in the presence of Moslems on May 14 1999. The koran says Jesus didn't die on the cross and has no divinity.

Anonymous said...

Terrific answer back @ 8:32 AM Paul. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Dear Anon 8:48 AM.


Stellar response!

Marko said...

More regarding Ferguson riots and who was/is behind them:

Theresa Hamilton of Noisy Room (libertarian blog) has a great writeup.

The Ferguson riots are not what they seem and those behind them are professionals. One of the top organizers of the protesters for the Ferguson riots is Lisa Fithian, someone who was intimately involved in the Occupy Wall Street movement. She has been deemed “Professor Occupy.”


See the rest at:

http://noisyroom.net/blog/2014/11/30/the-movers-and-shakers-behind-the-ferguson-riots/

Anonymous said...

"When Iran lobs a nuke into Saudi Arabia and incinerates Mecca and then turns its sights on Jerusalem"

Nonsense. Sunni and Shia hate each other but both regard Mecca as a holy city.

Anonymous said...

http://www.christianpost.com/news/pope-francis-prays-in-turkeys-mosque-head-bowed-toward-mecca-130449/

This is a very interesting Pope. He'll be in US visiting Obama and the UN some time in 2015.

Anonymous said...

news.yahoo.com/pope-says-islamist-violence-syria-iraq-grave-sin1025540.html

ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE-
Pope Francis said on Sunday that equating Islam with violence was wrong and called on Muslim leaders to issue a global condemnation of terrorism to help dispel the stereotype.

"You just can't say that, just as you can't say that all Christians are fundamentalists. We have our share of them (fundamentalists). All religions have these little groups", he said.

Seems the Pope is not fond of christian fundamentalists!!!

"these little groups"

I don't think the Pope (THE False Prophet) has read the koran, nor has he read much of the bible. If he has, he doesn't understand it very well. "these little groups" do understand the gosphel. They are the remnant in these last days that take the narrow path to salvation through Christ Jesus alone! The Pope's leads his flock on the broad path that leads to loss. He (The Pope), has his big group.

Watch "little group", the Pope will be continuing to marginalize true believers, and to group them in with the Muslim terrorists.

Anonymous said...

"Pope Francis said on Sunday that equating Islam with violence was wrong"

Here is why he is mistaken: verses (among many others) 8:39, 9:5, 9:29, 9:41, 9:111, 47:4 from the Quran, all of which can be looked up in multiple English translation at

http://prophetofdoom.net/Qurans.Islam

These verses all call for "fighting" to further the Islamic faith (if it is not accepted freely). Is that spiritual or physical battle? The Arabic word for fight used here is Qatala, which is related to "kill". In case people still insist on talking of "interpretation" of words which are crystal clear, the definitive interpretation of how to live the Quran was Muhammad's. His interpretation of Jihad was physical warfare, as a glance at his life (as attested by Islamic sources) instantly confirms.

To talk of only Muslim "fundamentalists" as those who behave in this way is like saying that a Christian fundamentalist is someone who believes that Jesus was crucified for our sins and rose again. It is the core of the faith.

What about the peaceful verses in the Quran that contradict this way of living? As a self-contradictory book cannot have been written by an omniscient God, this is a knockdown proof that the Quran is not what it claims to be. The Muslim response, which is unconvincing, is to quote a verse (Q2:106) saying that Allah replaces older verses with newer when he thinks of them - the "doctrine of abrogation" (naskh). Unfortunately the peaceful verses all come from Muhammad's earlier time at Mecca and the warlike verses from his later time at Medina.

Islam is a religion of war. Read it in its own words, not anybody else's.

paul said...

Islam is a religion of war.
Yes, a god of forces.

Susanna said...

Just for the record, the "Christian fundamentalists" alluded to by Pope Francis are CATHOLIC FUNDAMENTALISTS ( a.k.a. "integralists" ) like Cite Catholique that morphed out of Action Francais whose principle thinker was Charles Maurras and is not recognised by the Catholic Church.

Definitely New Age!!!!

CITE CATHOLIQUE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cit%C3%A9_catholique
_______________________________

JEAN OUSSET
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Ousset
_________________________________

ACTION FRANCAIS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Fran%C3%A7aise
______________________________

CHARLES MAURRAS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Maurras

Richard said...

"Islam is the greatest threat to Western civilization today"

Islam is certainly dreadful, but it plays second fiddle to the monster that is the Single World Government/New Order of the Ages plot.

THAT is power. THAT is what puts that entity on the throne in Jerusalem. And it ought to put to sleep this trendy rubbish that the Antichrist will be Muslim.

Whatever this 'new global religion' will be, it will not be monotheistic.



Anonymous said...

"Whatever this 'new global religion' will be, it will not be monotheistic."

Exactly.

It will be a conglomeration: name your flavor in a one size fits all...

Marko said...

Can we have some scripture that tells us the "one world religion" in the last days will not be monotheistic?

What about in Daniel where it says the Antichrist will worship "a god of forces"? That's "A" god, singular. Monotheistic.

And what about the New Testament reference where the AC sets HIMSELF up as god? That's monotheistic as well.

Although.... the two passages seem to be a bit contradictory - one says he worships some other god, one says he sets himself up to be worshiped as god, even though both have traditionally been used to describe the same person in prophecy studies - the Antichrist.

I think "traditional" prophecy is increasingly in need of a major overhaul.

paul said...

Islam is not just a religion of war and terror:

http://shoebat.com/2014/12/05/islam-religion-homosexuality-pedophilia/

Richard said...


What about in Daniel where it says the Antichrist will worship "a god of forces"? That's "A" god, singular. Monotheistic.

No, the last world empire is an amalgamation of beliefs. A chance for humans to proceed to the next step on the pyramid to become divine. Yes, he honors that 'god' and he is energized and empowered by him. But that 'god of forces' is Satan, the lord of those who fly. This kind of fierce countenance is the super man, the pinnacle of what the great deception will be propagating to the world at that time, that we all can become gods.

Where is the scripture indicating he will force a monotheistic faith on the world?

"And what about the New Testament reference where the AC sets HIMSELF up as god? That's monotheistic as well"

Not necessarily. We are free to disagree. But there is a good probability that an 'alien' involvement will somehow come to pass, and its connection to the coming dictator is relevant. It could be that to fool the world into worshiping him, he proclaims himself to be the creator of mankind. Nothing could persuade us more than this. How? IF he has a connection to a so-called alien incursion.

Post script: He will appear with lying signs and wonders, or marvels. If this sorcery is a kind of high technology from above, then of course, no nation ON EARTH will be able to 'stand against him' or 'make war against him'. You think he if was a NATO politician or even more absurd, from Turkey, that no nation could challenge that? Of course nations could challenge NATO militarily.

I think he's going to have to mimic Christ and come down from a 'cloud'. What better manner to enter a dying world than from above.

Behold, He cometh with the clouds.

Anonymous said...

Our present day is a revisit of the tower of babel for the political realm and the religious one. And once again God will address it and there will be no mistake what He concludes.

And won't be a long wait either.

Anonymous said...

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