My perspective -- What Constance thinks

To JD and rest:

There is an article in the latest ECONOMIST magazine about India's campaign to give every resident an IDENTITY NUMBER based on biometric identifiers. The article stresed how it would help with "microcredit transaction", buying, selling, fraud prevention, health care, etc., etc.

It is frightfully close to the prophesied events of Revelation!

Constance
 

To JD and rest:

There is an article in the latest ECONOMIST magazine about India's campaign to give every resident an IDENTITY NUMBER based on biometric identifiers. The article stresed how it would help with "microcredit transaction", buying, selling, fraud prevention, health care, etc., etc.

It is frightfully close to the prophesied events of Revelation!

Constance
 

See the climate of the times for Israel with this article appearing in an Indian magazine:

http://www.frontline.in/stories/20110211280305300.htm
"Project Jerusalem"

Constance
 

Where is everybody?
 

Constance,

Thanks for the clue in on the article in the Economist. I also wanted to get a look at the bits coming out of Davos, but have been away from the computer for most of the weekend. I am looking at a few other things on Universal Identification Numbers that are directly tied to GS1, and most of them have some form of biometrics associated as a "security" feature.
 

Why is it that no one commented on what I posted before? Can you please give some comments with regard this guy. They call him Maitreya, and looks like the same as Creme's guy. If you've seen this already please tell me.

http://www.soulsearchers.co.in/publication/books/maitreya-the-world-teacher/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTqVGHwRqX8&feature=related

So is he the one?

Pat from Manila
 

Dear Pat from Manila,
That is not the maitreya, he is a fake maitreya, he looks like a clever cult leader and in no way could he convince the western world that he is the return of Jesus.

How best to describe a counterfeit of a fake? That's the real conundrum...
 

Pat I think I have figured out how to explain a fake of a counterfeit.

The maitreya is a fake Jesus, and this man is a fake maitreya.
 

ok anon. Thanks. Buddhists use the name Maitreya a lot but I think this guy used it in the "Creme" sense. Creme's Maitreya is a project. I guess they send many "Maitreyas" and see which one will be accepted and is effective then they will fit the description. Trial and error.

Anyway, thanks for the reply.

Pat from Manila
 

Breaking news: What is happening in Egypt may not be as "spontaneous" as it looked. El Baradei had been meeting and planning with Facebook organizers of turmoil before it occurred, per a front page article in the New York Times today. There is considerable reporting that what might be happening is a "global revolution." I am reminded of the language in Marilyn Ferguson's THE AQUARIAN CONSPIRACY quoting from this passage of Nikos Kazantzakis,

"And I strive to discover how to signal my companions before I die, how to give them a hand, how to spell out for them in time one complete word at least, to tell them what I think this procession is, and toward what we go. And how necessary it is for all of us together to put our steps and hearts in harmony.
To say in time a simple word to my companions, a password, like conspirators.
Yes, the purpose of Earth is not life, it is not man. Earth has existed without these, and it will live on without them. They are but the ephemeral sparks of its violent whirling.
Let us unite, let us hold each other tightly, let us merge our hearts, let us create - so long as the warmth of this earth endures, so long as no earthquakes, cataclysms, icebergs or comets come to destroy us - let us create for Earth a brain and a heart, let us give a human meaning to the superhuman struggle.

Interestingly, Kazantzakis is also a hero to the German online highly anti-Semitic Skadi Forum. What comes to mind immediately is the passage form Daniel 11:38, "HE SHALL HONOR IN HIS ESTATE A GOD OF FORCES, A GOD WHOM HIS FATHERS KNEW NOT."

Constance
 

Cyborg Contact Lenses

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/01/cyborg_contact_lenses.html
 

Re: Constance comment at 1:18pm,

I'm beginning to see an underlying Kabbalistic concept on most of this stuff -- that of a "divine spark" in all of existence. This, of course, points to panentheism. I've written about this last month in an article. See section titled "Divine Spark" (read the last paragraph of the preceding section first):

http://notunlikelee.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/misplaced-trust-part-ii/

Even the Big Bang Theory seems to be based upon this -- a quote from the article:

Richard Elliot Friedman in "The Hidden Face of God" provides a view of the similarities between the so-called “Big Bang Theory” and Kabbalah in regards to how both viewpoints believe the earth was formed. In his work, Friedman states that adherents to BBT believe we are stardust; and, similarly some versions of the Kabbalah believe we are divine stardust[45].

I was reading about this same concept yesterday in Bailey's Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle.

From my viewpoint, I believe this all goes back Isaac Luria's Kabbalistic doctrine of the Ein Sof -- a belief that God diffused himself throughout the solar system and hence once all the "sparks" are liberated then "God" can be One again. We will all be "one" with Him again. I don't think I'm explaining it very well; but, if you'll look it up on wiki or perhaps other better sources, you'll see what I mean.
 

Craig,

Michael C. Dowd and his wife, Connie Barlow, are huge into the evolution and stardust thing. (Thank God for Evolution and The Great Story) They are very popular speakers on the Emergent Church circuit now, appearing with Brian McLaren and others.

...and he is a former Pentecostal pastor giving him much credibility--ostensibly.

YesNaSpanishTown
 

YesNa,

That's interesting. I really haven't kept up with the whole Emergent Church thing; but, I have read (and can see) that there's a convergence of the hyper-charismatic and the Emergent streams.

Coincidentally (Providentially?) I found the Friedman BBM/Kabbalah reference while searching for something unrelated. In the endnotes to the article is a link directly to an online version of this book.
 

COMMITTEE PASSES PLAN FOR INTERNET ‘KILL SWITCH’ IN U.S.

S. 3480 would create a new government agency called the National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications. The NCCC would have sweeping powers to control the Internet, including the ability to shut down the web for a 30-day period. Considering that at least 60% of Americans get their daily news fix from the Internet, this is a staggering proposal.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/committee-passes-plan-for-internet-kill-switch-in-egypt-u-s/

or:

TinyURL.com/4urxbw8


Craig and YesNa:

See the following sites for excellent content on the Emerging / Emergent Church and Prophets / Apostles New Reformation heresy:

http://www.spiritoferror.org/

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/


Dave in CA
 

Anyone looking at Kabbalah and the term Ein Sof should first look to basic Jewish sources for interpretations. I'm sure Christians would not suggest reading the Islamic interpretation of Christianity before studying Christian works.

http://www.jewfaq.org/kabbalah.htm

http://theollendorffcenter.org/principles.html
Judaism teaches us that all human beings are created in the divine image and therefore are linked to God by the Divine Spark within them.

There is no copyright on words. Anyone can take a word or an idea and use it as they wish. The only penalty is being called a liar. Occultists also use the symbols of Christianity to sell their own ideas.

There are both Jews and Christians who are more occultists than followers of their own religions.

As far as Ein Sof, the idea is not that the sparks are parts of God as if everything is a big jigsaw puzzle. The spark is more like the feeling you get when you love someone. If the entire universe collapsed into one black hole, God would still exist. God is not the sum of all of the parts of the universe in Judaism.
 

COMMITTEE PASSES PLAN FOR INTERNET ‘KILL SWITCH’ IN U.S.

S. 3480 would create a new government agency called the National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications. The NCCC would have sweeping powers to control the Internet, including the ability to shut down the web for a 30-day period. Considering that at least 60% of Americans get their daily news fix from the Internet, this is a staggering proposal.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4urxbw8

or:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/committee-passes-plan-for-internet-kill-switch-in-egypt-u-s/


Craig and YesNa:

Here are two excellent sources for information on the Emerging / Emergent Church and the Prophets / Apostles New Reformation herecies:

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/

http://www.spiritoferror.org/

Dave in CA
 

Craig and YesNa:

One of the locations on Lighthouse Research's site for Emergent research:

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/researchtopics.htm#E

Dave in CA
 

Craig and YesNa:

Sorry, the whole URL didn't post for the Lighthouse Trails research on the Emergent Church - this should help.

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/researchtopics.htm#E

Dave in CA
 

WOW!! Craig and YesNa:

Two times the url for the above was fine in preview and but didn't show when posted. So here it is tiny:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4wcq8mw

Dave in CA
 

Dorothy,

I understand there are different views on the Kabbalah which I state in the article itself. Perhaps I should have qualified the beginning part of my initial comment on this a bit better.

You'll see that I specified it was Isaac Luria's Kabbalistic view of Ein Sof I was referring to. And, in the article I wrote Martin Buber's is close to if not the same thing.

From the first link you sent, the Zohar is referenced:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zohar

...Its scriptural exegesis can be considered an esoteric form of the Rabbinic literature known as Midrash, which elaborates on the Torah.

So, admittedly, it goes beyond the bounds of the Torah into mysticism.

However, I was speaking of Lurian Kabbalah:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Luria

Rabbi Luria's ideas enjoy wide recognition among Jews today. Orthodox as well as Reform, Reconstructionist and other Progressive Jews frequently acknowledge a moral obligation to "repair the world" (tikkun olam). This idea draws upon Luria's teaching that shards of divinity remain contained in flawed material creation and that deeds by the righteous help to release this energy.

Also, from the link regarding Ein Sof:

The characteristic feature of Luria's system in the theoretical Kabbalah is his definition of the Sefiroth and his theory of the intermediary agents, which he calls partzufim. Before the creation of the world, he says, the Ein Sof ("Without Ending") filled the infinite space. When the Creation was decided upon, in order that God's attributes, which belong to other beings as well, should manifest themselves in their perfection, the Ein Sof retired into God's own nature, or, to use the kabbalistic term, God "concentrated" Himself (Tzimtzum). From this "concentration" proceeded the "infinite light". When in its turn the light "concentrated", there appeared in the center an empty space encompassed by ten circles or dynamic vessels (kelim) called Sefirot, ("Circled Numbers") by means of which the infinite realities, though forming an absolute unity, may appear in their diversity; for the finite has no real existence of itself.
 

Dorothy,

Interestingly, I had referenced Tracey R. Rich's site (the first link you posted) in one of my previous articles as I thought she had good, solid information. The article was on the period between the time of Malachi and just after the destruction of the 2nd Temple (70AD).

Also, I have recently purchased some books by Gershom Scholem in an effort to learn more on the Jewish Kabbalah. Plus, I now have James Charlesworth's two volumes on "OT Pseudipigrapha" so as to learn more about this period. Further, I'm reading a bit about the Dead Sea Scrolls and how the Qumran interpreted OT texts. (The Qumran had a copy of I Enoch and other pseudepigraphic literature.)

Now, if I could find the extra time to actually read all this...
 

Craig. Excellent work my friend. God bless you.
 

Craig, I know you go out of your way to be careful about your sources. I am more concerned about those who see the word Kabbah and know nothing about Judaism and the various branches and how they come to the wrong conclusions.

Wikipedia is quite leftist and really is not a neutral source where Judaism is concerned. There have been a number of exposes about this. Wiki has to be used very carefully.

I know it is very difficult to understand what is involved in basic Judaism. Orthodox rabbis use Hebrew to communicate, speak and write, and this doesn't translate easily into English. If I sent you a writing by an Orthodox rabbi, you would see what I mean.

Get the book Religion After Religion to understand how Sholom, Eliade and Corbin were working toward the same ideas at Eranos.
 

Pete,

Thanks for the kind words. God gets the credit as He has certainly provided the way for me to go. I merely followed. At least that's the way it seems to me. I don't think I could have put all the various things together without His help/leading.
 

Dorothy,

Doing a quick search for the book Religion After Religion, I cannot find one at a somewhat reasonable price. I've no problem buying used. Maybe I'll be able to find one here locally as I've found the other Scholem titles one of which is on the Zohar and it's rather short. Hopefully, I'll have time to read it this week.

I will also have to find a good source for Isaac Luria's material. I know of a guy who believes there's a "Christianized" version of Lurian Kabbalah in hyper-charismaticism. If I can get a better understanding of this (using good sources) I intend to write on it.
 

If Dorothy means what I write below, then she is right. There is a vast distinction to be made between true Judaism & any form of Kabalah which is demonic to the very core in all its versions.Those 'rabbis' which do meddle in Zofar/Kabalah or any form of Kabalistic material, are occult practitioners & consulters of demonology; they have no right to call themselves Jews. There are many rabbis, however, who reject kabalah in all its forms, it is important to remember this.
 

Craig, use interlibrary loan through your local library to get Religion After Religion. This academic book is heavy reading and you probably will get what you need by scanning it and copying pages.

More importantly, I hope you do a quick look at Eranos information on the internet. Constance pointed me in the direction of the history of Bollingen many years ago. Put Bollingen, Eranos and Bailey in a search. My guess is that very few people reading here even know who Eliade is.

Constance's information is like an encyclopedia on New Age. Things she wrote about in her 30 year research history are brand new to many people who only joined the search for information recently. She needs access to the academic community where what she knows would have a larger impact. What she can present on a blog is far different from what from what she has experienced and learned about the extent of the New Age network. Much of what I know has come from leads she shared.

One of the problems researchers such I am have is we do not have easy access to work which has been done by the academic community. I found many pertinent used books at Powells which is near the University of Chicago campus. They buy books which professors have been sent for review. I've been lucky that way.

Most readers of this blog seem to just want information that validates their Christian beliefs. While that might be a worthwhile effort, more needs to be done to expose the historical networks of New Age.
 

Anonymous 12:21,
while you may mean well from your point of view, it is much more complex than that. You can't put a chain around what people are allowed to speculate about, understand or imagine. You can tell someone they must accept your understanding about life, but you can't convince them by force or name calling that you are right.

Some questions that are explained by science these days existed through history, but not all. Who are you behind your face and skin and how did you happen to be born now? Why don't you look like your neighbor? Why do some feel good in a forest and others couldn't care less? How did the universe happen? Why does a person have premonitions? Where does the feeling of love come from and can you see love? Why are some people manipulative and others not? Why does the sky look blue? Why are some people born fortunate and others suffer? What is on the other side of a blue sky? Why do my eyes work as they do? Why do people grow old? Why did a wife or husband stray? Why was someone born in America rather than France? Why does someone bond with parents and others do not? There is no end to these questions.

Mysticism, the occult, philosophy, social science, etc. are inventive ways to make sense of these and other questions. Where these inventive ways of thinking hurt an individual or a community, they must be challenged in a rational way. Shutting down thinking by calling names as you have done just results in a forced shutting down of what can be learned. That kind of dictatorial belief system when used by governments results in denying freedom and respect for individual thinking.

Any individual or group who thinks it has all of the answers about human life believes themselves equal to knowledge about the entire universe, equal to God.

Judaism is based on faith that God has intervened to guide the Jewish community and an analysis of how to implement that guidance. It doesn't claim to have answers to all of the questions that can be asked about the physical world. Kabbalah and mysticism are speculations about the things that are not answered. Speculations are just that, not final answers.

If I were you I would be very careful about what you call evil. It is an attack that can backfire if those in authority do not like how you think.
 

Dorothy,

As a Christian, I must confess that I'm most interested in things from a Christian perspective. I'd be untruthful if I stated otherwise. From the research I've done, most esoteric doctrine has been recycled throughout the centuries with new portions appended to make them more appealing to the current generation.

There are conflicting bits of info; but, apparently, the Kabbalah has been in use since 200BC by some accounts and even earlier by others.

Some Christian mystics have adopted portions of the Kabbalah as an addendum to their own esoteric doctrines. From a Christian point of view, it appears that mysticism is a jumping off point for doctrine which strays further and further from Christian Truth.

While I am no Bible scholar and, admittedly, I know less about the OT than the NT, I do know that the nation Israel was constantly "corrected" by Jehovah as she strayed from the One True God to other gods when she began mixing in elements of other belief systems. And, Jehovah would sometimes use Israel's own enemies to bring her back to the True Faith.

Abraham, by faith, took his own son Isaac to be sacrificed in obeying the command of Jehovah. Apparently, he knew God would somehow provide a solution --perhaps a resurrection of Isaac from the dead (this was a prefiguring of Jesus' resurrection from the dead). In the NT (in the book of Hebrews), it is written that God counted this faith of Abraham as righteousness.

My point here is that it was simple faith/obedience which kept the nation Israel in commune with Jehovah. Is it possible that the Jewish Kabbalah, an admittedly mystic addendum to the Jewish faith, could be a parallel to the Christian problem of straying from the True Faith?

I will have to check out Eranos as I know nothing about it. And, I may take your advice to go to a local library for research.
 

Dorothy

You said:
"If I were you I would be very careful about what you call evil. It is an attack that can backfire if those in authority do not like how you think"

Isa 5:20 says "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

I am curious about your position on Kabbalah, you seem to be advocating Mystisism.

Regards
 

To Constance (1:18 PM):

Re: Mohamed El Baradei

He is being called "the Globalist Pied Piper of the Egyptain Revolt...."working for the very same globalists and NGO’s that autocrat leader Hosni Mubarak has dutifully served for nearly 30 years.

This is a grass roots movement being carried out by impoverished young Egyptians finally standing up in unison to a regime that toadies to the west yet allows its people none of the freedoms associated with living in a modern and prosperous nation. But that doesn’t mean the revolution we currently see unfolding on the streets of Alexandria, Cairo, Suez and cannot be co-opted by the very same globalist forces who have been pulling Mubarak’s strings for the past three decades.

The US military-industrial complex has known for at least three years that Egypt was teetering on the verge of regime change, and they certainly were not going to let anyone outside parties take control after Mubarak’s fall. That’s why the American Embassy trained rebel leaders to infiltrate opposition groups from the very beginning, as the Telegraph reveals today.

Enter former top UN official and staunch Mubarak adversary Mohamed ElBaradei, who recently returned to Cairo in a bid to lead the protest movement.

ElBaradei serves on the Board of Trustees of the International Crisis Group, who today issued a press release protesting the decision on behalf of Egyptian authorities to place ElBaradei under house arrest.
 

(Continued....)

International Crisis Group is a shadowy NGO (non-governmental organization) that enjoys an annual budget of over $15 million and is bankrolled by the likes of Carnegie, the Ford Foundation, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, as well as George Soros’ Open Society Institute. Soros himself serves as a member of the organization’s Executive Committee. In other words, this is a major geopolitical steering group for the global elite.

The fact that their man ElBaradei is being primed to head up the post-Mubarak government should set alarm bells ringing in the ears of every demonstrator who is protesting in the name of trying to wrestle Egypt away from the clutches of new world order control.

Indeed, even Mubarak himself is now seemingly catching on to the understanding that his usefulness to the global power elite has run its course, remarking during a national address Saturday that the protests were “part of a bigger plot to shake the stability and destroy the legitimacy” of the political system.

Even more ironic is the fact that another powerful globalist who sits on the board of International Crisis Group, Zbigniew Brzezinski, warned last year that the international hierarchyof which he is a key component was under threat from a “global awakening” that would be led by young radicals in third world countries. Having accurately predicted the wave of revolt now spreading like wildfire across the globe, Brzezinski and his fellow globalists are preparing to pick up the pieces in order to continue business as usual, while the people who risked their lives for real change will be the victims of a monumental deception. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

http://tinyurl.com/6j4a2sb
 

All,

I want to wish well to any who are in the path of this massive blizzard. I know that the next few days will not be fun for those of us who are, but I want to remind everyone to exercise caution. The worst has yet to hit, and forecasters are already calling this a "storm of the century" type of event.
 

I learned to my dismay yesterday that one gentleman sent nearly $1700 to the online crooks thinking it was me. He sent me the bill for repayment for the money he had wired. I called the FBI after I received his letter and copies of his receipts for the wired money. They told me HE was the victim and the complaint would have to come from him. As a lawyer, that's illogical because it's my name that was forged and my identity that was impersonated to this well-intentioned aider in what he considered to be my distress. I was in distress, but from the email / google storage theft and erasures. I hope there aren't more lurking out there. Because my entire email address had been erased in the process, I couldn't even counter their moves with a warning email of my own as they had deleted my address book.

Constance
 

Dorothy and I have had our disagreements over the Kabbalah. We agree on much else, including the dangers of the New Age Movement. I agree with Craig's position on it -- I do believe that the Kabbalah and the clear Torah mandates of Deuteronomy 18 are incompatible.

Constance
 

Pete,
Orthodox Judaism put a wall around the Kabbalah when they said no one under the age of 40 should look at it and that it was ordered to not even look into it before one studied the Torah and Talmud. Even then it was considered dangerous because it could confuse the mind.

I don't read Hebrew so there is no way I could learn what's in it. So I tried reading about it and it made no sense to me. I couldn't relate any of the ideas to real life. Now it may be that my IQ just isn't high enough.

Should I make judgments about something I can't understand in the least when some Orthodox scholars who can understand what they read haven't totally banned these speculations, although censorship is part of Orthodox beliefs. It's not like the Catholic Church where there was an Index.
http://www.users.cloud9.net/~recross/why-not/Forbidden.html
http://tinyurl.com/4elk4va

Who should and where to draw the line on what one should or shouldn't read has become more difficult with the expansion of communication and transportation.

How does one stop Christians from putting their own spin on what Kabbalah is? Should conspiracy type material become forbidden because some consider it dangerous?

I know people who fear going into New Age or occult type bookstores. (Yes, there is a difference.) They would never go in one. I've gone into many to learn what is going on with the New Age movement.

Your question Pete is very simplistic. You've not said whether or not you can read Hebrew, whether you understand the concepts in any of the books that comprise what is called the Kabbalah. You've not explained what you see as evil in the Kabbalah. You've not explained whether you are a scholar who has studied philosophy in any way. Are you a Christian scholar of mysticism?

All I know about you is that you use the name Pete and have taken a quote out of context. Is there a reason I should discuss serious complex matters with you?
 

Constance, you know your position on what you think the Kabbalah is, but just what do you think my position is?
 

Tell you what Pete. I agree with you in that I think Christians should stay far away from even thinking about all of the Kabbalahs, much less writing about them. Too many Christians can't even get the books of the Jewish Bible right. See what you can do about that. Since I'm not Christian, your efforts won't affect me.

http://www.kheper.net/topics/Kabbalah/ChristianKabbalah.htm
 

Dorothy

I was asking for your position on the legitimacy of Kabbalah because Kabbalistic thought has so heavily influenced New Age philosophy. If you denounce NA yet still support Kabbalistic teaching, you are sending mixed messages that may cause some confusion. Its like saying "I don't do spiritualism but who fancies a seance?"
If you are unsure of your position then fine. I just hope that you are aware that God forbids such practices. Deut 18:10-12

God bless.
 

Pete, thank you for telling me God has authorized you to speak for him.

Now you have to convince me you know all there is to know about the New Age movement. You've already convinced me you know nothing about any form of Kabbalah. If you did, you would have answered my questions. It's pretty clear you didn't understand what I wrote.

Pete, you mean well. If you stick to specific things where you can give details, who, what, when, where and why, you'll be OK. When you start making grand pronouncements you end up sounding like most of today's liberals.
 

Hi Pete,

I think you'll like this.

There is a strange fragment of Scripture which is not easy to understand until you see it in the Jewish background as it was at that time, the apostle says: “No one can say ‘Jesus is Lord’ but by the Holy Spirit.” That sounds strange in itself if you take it out of its context, its historical context. Anybody can say ‘Jesus is Lord’ without the Holy Spirit; anybody can say that, you need not be a Christian to say that. But here it is, “No man can say ‘Jesus is Lord’ but by the Holy Spirit.” You put yourself right into the Roman and Jewish world as it was at that time, and you stand up and say, ‘Jesus is Lord’; you’ll need all the power and courage and boldness of the Holy Spirit to do it. You put your very life into jeopardy when you use those words about Jesus! All the forces of evil, spiritual and temporal, will make you a marked man or woman in that world. If you say, ‘Jesus is Lord’ the cross waits for you and you will need the Holy Ghost for that. No one, in that realm, could dare to say it but by the power and support of the Holy Spirit.
It was no easy thing to declare the Deity, Lordship, Godhead of Jesus Christ in those days; it is not today in worlds of idolatry, in lands of heathenism where Satan has his seat. Some of you know that. The fact is this: that this is a matter which, when it is really, really spiritually embodied in a people (not a part of a Christian creed, something that you just say over and over week by week as a form and formula) but when that thing is as it was at the beginning, embodied in the power of the Holy Spirit; all Hell is out to destroy that testimony. So you can have the language and the phraseology of the testimony without the reality. Have the reality, and you are a marked people, you are marked down by the enemy to be crucified, whatever that may mean. The testimony of Jesus begins there.

http://www.austin-sparks.net/english/books/books_alpha.html
 

Hi Dorothy

This is not the place for a debate on Kabbalah.

I stated that I was curious about your position on Jewish mysticism in the interests of transparency.

You seem unwilling to reveal this so I will not pursue the matter any further.

Regards
 

Anon 6:22

You are right, I like it. It is very true.

Thanks
 

Pete, you never explained why you needed to hear my position on the Kabbalah. You seem to know nothing more about it than "Kabbalah is evil."

You wrote:
You seem unwilling to reveal this so I will not pursue the matter any further.

Excuse me but that is a very foolish statement, and I cannot let you get away with trying to put words in my mouth.

1. Kabbalah is a very broad topic.
2. There are many different Kabbalahs. Kabbalah is not a word that has a copyright. People, particularly Christians, for centuries have made up things and called them Kabbalah.
3. The Jewish Kabbalah has nothing to do with your quote from Deuteronomy. Orthodox Jews keep the commandments.
4. The Jewish Kabbalah is the only one that concerns me.
5. I tried to delve into bits and pieces of it through English translations, but it made no sense to me. I am not foolish enough to make grand pronouncements about things I do not understand. If I can't understand something after trying, I leave it alone.
6. There are many Orthodox rabbis who are scholars and have spent decades studying Judaism. If they say they understand the Jewish Kabbalah after decades of study, I'll let them judge the writings. They are in a much better position to judge whether the writings are consistent with other parts of Judaism.

Now if you and Constance want to take a stand on the Christian Kabbalah, more power to you. Leave me out of it.

My position is not hidden. It is very clear. I try to learn as much as I can before I take a stand on things. Jumping to conclusions is very stupid.
 

Pete, this article might help you to understand what you think is the Kabbalah that is related to New Age and the real tradition.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/kabbalah/kabbalah82.html

In an article on its Web site, the Bnei Baruch World Center for Kabbalah Studies said: "Today, many well-known celebrities have popularized a New Age pop-psychology distortion of Kabbalah that has more in common with the writings of Deepak Chopra than with any authentic Jewish source."

But to Wolfson, what is being offered today is not the tradition but a distorted "pop version that is far more a form of New Age occult astrology and magic than a genuine expression of Kabbalah."
 

Dorothy,

I know you addressed this to Pete; however, this concerns me:

Orthodox Judaism put a wall around the Kabbalah when they said no one under the age of 40 should look at it and that it was ordered to not even look into it before one studied the Torah and Talmud. Even then it was considered dangerous because it could confuse the mind.

First, this sounds like Gnosticism to me which is akin to what the esoterics do -- one must reach a certain "level" before one can progress to the next; and, the next level's knowledge is only for those at that level or higher. To receive this knowledge is to accept that you must keep it secret and apart from the uninitiated.

In the Torah are these words:

http://www.breslov.com/bible/Deuteronomy4.htm#1

1 And now, O Israel, hearken unto the statutes and unto the ordinances, which I teach you, to do them; that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which HaShem, the G-d of your fathers, giveth you.
2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish from it, that ye may keep the commandments of HaShem your G-d which I command you.

You should not add to G-d's Word. And, from the Ketuvim (The Writings or Wisdom literature) are similar words:

http://www.breslov.com/bible/Proverbs30.htm#5

5 Every word of G-d is tried; He is a shield unto them that take refuge in Him.
6 Add thou not unto His words, lest He reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

And, going back to the Torah, there are words of blessings for obedience in Deuteronomy 28 followed by warnings of judgment for not adhering to G-d's commandments including confusion:

20 HaShem will send upon thee cursing, discomfiture, and rebuke, in all that thou puttest thy hand unto to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the evil of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken Me.

28 HaShem will smite thee with madness, and with blindness, and with astonishment of heart.

Or:

http://bible.ort.org/books/pentd2.asp?ACTION=displaypage&BOOK=5&CHAPTER=28#P1

28:20 God will send misfortune, confusion and frustration against you in all you undertake. It will destroy you and make you rapidly vanish because of your evil ways in forsaking my [teachings].

28:28 God will strike you with insanity, blindness and mental confusion.
 

curious... when was the new aged mystic version of the Kabbalah invented?

the tree of life?

the seal of Solomon?

I know that they were always jewish mysticism ....Aleister Crowley, also known as both Frater Perdurabo used them, and so did I when I was unsaved...
 

also known as both Frater Perdurabo and 666 the beast*
 

Craig, could you please let Jews teach Judaism. Could you let our Jewish scholars study Judaism? Do you really think they are incompetent and need the help of lay Christian interpreters? Do you think lay Jews can do a better job of setting standards for Christians than Christian scholars can do? Probably not.

It may sound like Gnosticism to you, but you aren't a scholar of Jewish Kabbalah or Gnosticism as far as I know. Is University learning a form of Gnosticism because students must take a series of classes before they are allowed into upper level classes? There are no levels in Judaism. Serious students of Judaism take the advice of their scholars because there is a four thousand year history of learning.

ORT has no problem with Jewish Kabbalah. Don't pick and choose sections of their writings that you think will support your views. One of the differences between scholarly Judaism and lay Christians is that with the former the Bible is viewed in its entirety as opposed to the latter where verses are used out of context.
 

Dorothy:

Is University learning a form of Gnosticism because students must take a series of classes before they are allowed into upper level classes?

OK, fair enough.

However, as I wrote earlier, Kabbalah is, admittedly, an addendum to Judaism. And, citing Deuteronomy 28 is not merely proof-texting as this promise of blessings for obedience and curses for disobedience has been played out (known as the Deuteronomic Cycle) throughout Jewish history.

Yes, I'm no scholar of Judaism or even Christianity for that matter. However, the Christian faith is based partly upon the Old Testament or the Tanakh. The OT may be in a different sequence; but, it's the same book.

Given that, I do know a little about the Tanakh/Old Testament as it is also referenced in Christian New Testament passages. There are New Testament passages which declare that Scripture is authoritative and should not be added to or subtracted from. This is the same as in the OT/Tanakh as I have illustrated.

There are those within Christianity who claim to be scholars who are clearly at odds with basic Christianity. Is it not possible that those who are promoting Kabbalah are doing a similar thing? While there are Jewish scholars who promote the Kabbalah, there are those who oppose it; so, who's to say which side is right? The answer must lie in the Tanakh for that is the basis for the Jewish faith just as the Christian Bible is the basis for the Christian faith.

One of the central tenets of Kabbalah is reincarnation - a doctrine rejected by other Jewish scholars. So, clearly the Kabbalah is not universally accepted.
 

Dorothy

You seem to think that because you or I do not read Hebrew, or that we are not Scholars of Judaism, we have no authority to speak on it. That argument does not stand up.
You campaign against the NA, yet you are not a High Priestess of the Earth Battalion of Rainbow Warriors. At least as far as I know.
Kabbalah is both occult and Gnostic and I'm talking of the westernised AND Jewish types. I have studied it from time to time, both as a New Ager in the eighties and subsequently as a Bible believer.
You may not know what you are talking about but allow those who do, to make an authoritative statement.


God bless
 

Craig, I agree Kabbalah is not universally accepted by all Jews. However the reasons for rejection by Jews are not the same as the reasons given for rejection by who see it as something evil. Some see it as heresy and others see it as speculative stupidity. You might find this reading of Kabbalah Criticism by Bloom of interest.
http://tinyurl.com/4nnn6px

I've been aware of these views and might agree if I could absolutely trust the reviewers to be neutral. On the other side are serious Orthodox Jewish scholars who have different opinions. These scholars are meticulous in following the 613 commandments.

I'm left with having faith in basic Judaism just as you have faith in basic Christianity.

This does not stop me from condemning beliefs that are detrimental to individuals or communities when I see proof. Proof includes deceptive, manipulative, and lying behavior. I've found plenty of this in the New Age movement and in cult operations. I've seen it in religious leaders and the secular world. I've seen it in conspiracy writings. At my age I've seen too much of it.
 

Pete, it's a free country and you can talk all you want. It doesn't make you an authority on anything. I've researched the New Age movement for thirty years, actively and passively. I consider myself a major authority on the movement.

A participant in one part of the New Age movement is not necessarily an authority on the movement. Most believers in New Age ideas are just naive suckers. If you've been following what Constance has written, you should know that.
 

Dorothy

If you were really an authority on the New Age, you would know that the Mystical Judaism which you defend, has profoundly influenced the NAM as well as most other aspects of western culture. You have a foot in both camps Dorothy therefor your witness is unreliable.
I am not taking away from your dedication to exposing the NAM but you are confused. You are clearly older than me and I respect that but don't be so set in your ways to that you are closed to the truth.

Regards
 

Pete, you have your opinion of me and I have my opinion of you. I guess nothing will ever change.
 

PositiveID Corporation Appoints Ambassador Ned L. Siegel to Its Board of Directors

Mr. Siegel, Who Also Served the United Nations, Has Strong Relationships in Israel Where the Company's Easy Check Breath Glucose Detection Device is Being Developed

more at link

http://tinyurl.com/45q324s
 

At my apartment here in San Antonio as I was finishing up my morning shower this AM the electricity went out. I come to find out this is part of "rolling blackouts" which will going on till 3pm today. No warning, no nothing. Smart grid in action?

My coworker told me a few days ago she saw on TV an expose on Enron which tied them to the electrical crisis of California in 2000 and 2001:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_electricity_crisis

Probably old news to some on here; but, it was news to me.

While it's very cold right now for South Texas, this is not the coldest it has been in my nearly 30years of living here. I smell a rat.
 

Didn't parts of Texas get ice? Could this explain the rolling blackouts? Maybe the simplest explanation is the best one. Unless you're Glenn Beck.
 

Electricity,

Yes, parts of Texas received ice (not San Antonio); but, this is not the first time and it JUST happened -- it's not like this has been for a protracted amount of time.
 

Dorothy,

I'm pressed for time; so, I'll respond re: the link you posted hopefully this evening.
 

Secular blog on revolutions in the EU neighbourhood [the very thing the ENP/ENP(I) was designed to mitigate]:

http://tinyurl.com/awrxta
OR
http://blogs.euobserver.com/popescu/

According to one unsubstantiated report, the U.S. and E.U. are discussing military intervention.
 

Here's the story on the outages in Texas. The story was on Drudge.
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local-beat/Power-Grid-Taxed-Rolling-Blackouts-Ordered-115093224.html?dr

http://tinyurl.com/46oeh7w
 

I am in the Dallas area and monday night we had an significant ice storm. Roads are treacherous even though the Dept of Transportation is supposedly working around the clock. Temperatures are in the teens which we have not seen for years. When roads get icy here a significant percentage of the people won't go to school or work so there is an even bigger demand for energy.
We are having rolling blackouts but I don't see it as a conspiracy.

I could be wrong but this year sure makes me doubt the whole global warming hypothesis:)

AT
 

AT,

I could be wrong; but, I don't believe the DFW area is on the same gride as San Antonio. And, while it's cold here (about 24 right now), the cold snap just came in yesterday early morning and there's been no precipitation. I'm sure there's a higher than average demand for power right now; but, we didn't have rolling blackouts in the summer.

This is the first I've heard of "rolling blackouts" here in SA; but, again, I could be wrong -- it may have happened and I was just unaware.
 

I live in Houston and it's true...

ERCOT Orders Rolling Blackouts Across Texas

The Electric Reliability Council of Texas has ordered rolling blackouts across the state during the arctic blast.

The agency said the blackouts were needed to compensate for a generation shortage due to numerous plant trips that have occurred because of the extreme weather.

The blackouts will last 10 to 45 minutes per neighborhood. The locations and durations of the blackouts will be determined by local utilities.

CenterPoint Energy said it began the rolling blackouts about 5:45 a.m. and an average of 330,000 customers are affected at a time.

"This is a statewide emergency and CenterPoint Energy is complying with direct orders from ERCOT," said Scott Prochazka, division senior vice president of CenterPoint Energy's electric transmission and delivery operations. "Although we realize this is an inconvenience for our customers, these controlled rolling outages are planned emergency measures designed to avoid potentially longer, and more widespread power outages. We will continue these rolling outages until we receive direction from ERCOT that the electric supply in Texas has stabilized."

CenterPoint Energy said it has predetermined which circuits/power lines will be taken off-line or curtailed across its entire service territory but has not released a schedule to the public.

For more...
http://www.click2houston.com/news/
26708768/detail.html
 

Update @ 2:23 PM (CST)...

ERCOT ENDS ROLLING BLACKOUTS

http://www.click2houston.com/news/
26708768/detail.html
 

VIOLENT CHAOS IN CAIRO

Pro-Mubarak protestors are armed

http://edition.cnn.com/2011
/WORLD/meast/02/02
/egypt.protests.scene/index.html
 

U.S., U.K. Companies Help Egyptian Regime Shut Down Telecommunications and Identify Dissidents

http://tinyurl.com/6ku2afl
 

BREAKING....

Senate repeals part of ObamaCare Law

http://www.politico.com/news/storie
s/0211/48726.html
 

Anon 3:41....

The rolling blackouts ended? Just like THAT?!? Hmmm.... there must be a reason. And a nefarious one at that!
 

RE EUROPEAN NEIGHBOURHOOD POLICY. HERE IS LINK TO DOWNLOAD 'FEMISE EUROPEAN UNION REPORT "EUROPEAN NEIGHBOURHOOD POLICY AT THE CROSSROADS":

http://www.femise.org/PDF/Femise_A2010gb.pdf

Constance
 

To all:

Checking on "Rene Wadlow," I discovered this Lucis Trust / New Age front in Jerusalem named "Hechal.org."

Here is a link to its site:

www.hechal.org.

Constance
 

Rene Wadlow is important in the New Age scheme of things. I just discovered he is in my second book on the appendix containing the list of Planetary Citizen Advisory Council members. He was mentored by Salvador de Madariaga. He is active with Lucis Trust and is a Theosophist. He represents an NGO called "World Citizens" at the United Nations. My attention was drawn to him in the last couple of days because of an article of his getting wide play in the news on "Tunisia: The People's Revolution‎"

Weekly Blitz - Rene Wadlow - 1 day ago
The people's revolution is on the march. .... Rene Wadlow is Representative to the United Nations, Geneva, Association of World Citizens.

Weekly Blitz

World Citizens Call for Coordinated World Food Polic‎
Media For Freedom - Jan 8, 2011
World Citizens Call for Coordinated World Food Policy Rene Wadlow* “Since the hungry billion in the world community believe that we can all eat if we set ...

Media For Freedom
Egypt: The Sphinx and the People's Revolution‎
Media For Freedom - Rene Wadlow - 3 days ago
Rene Wadlow, Representative to the United Nations, Geneva, Association of World Citizens. Copyright mediaforfreedom.com.

Media For Freedom
Tunisia: The Last Days of Ben Ali‎
Toward Freedom - Rene Wadlow - Jan 18, 2011
Rene Wadlow is editor of the online journal of world politics www.transnational-perspectives.org and an NGO representative to the UN, Geneva.

It is my opinion that they think the Middle East events are the "chaos" that will create the dynamics for a "global revolution" that will usher in their long awaited "Age of Aquarius." Wadlow is extremely active on all fronts!!!!!

Constance
 

Here is something he did in 2010 for the "DIAMOND LIGHT" AQUARIAN AGE COMMUNITY:

http://aquaac.org/dl/10nl1art3.html

this guy is a major player into it deep. Something BIG is blowing in the wind on Middle East / Cairo / Jordan events right now and Wadlow is a pretty good indicator of where the New Agers are in the scheme of things!

Constance
 

Following Constance's lead at the last link she shared led me to
http://hechal.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=604&Itemid=283

http://tinyurl.com/5uaag5s

The positions taken are straight out of Alice Bailey material. It's hard to read because the format does not break down the information into smaller paragraphs.

The connection is even clearer when one checks out Uta Gabay who founded the Hechal organization. See
http://www.methuselahproject.net/contents.htm

Christians reading this might ask what this has to do with them. The ideas being sold are the same ones being introduced into the Christian community.

Constance shared how she was led to the link to Heschel from something else she was researching. I don't want to step on her toes and believe she will share the important information she found at her own pace.
 

I posted my comment only to find she just shared this important information. Important stuff I would not have found on my own.
 

Constance and All:

Salvador De Madariaga : Conscience of the League of Nations

René Wadlow

Salvador De Madariaga. Morning Without Noon (London: Saxon House, 1974)

Salvador De Madariaga (1886-1978) was called, half ironically, half seriously,
‘the conscience of the League of Nations’ by Sir John Simon, the chief UK delegate to the League of Nations Council and Foreign Secretary. De Madariaga was chairing the Council at the time of the Japanese attack on Manchuria, and he was convinced that this attack, the first major violation of the Covenant by a Council member, Japan, was a key test for the League.
He later chaired the League efforts to deal with this Manchurian crisis, as he did with the League efforts to deal with the Italian attack on Ethiopia (Abyssinia, as it was then called).
Salvador De Madariaga had a free hand as chief delegate of Spain during the Republican years (1931-1936) before the Civil War and General Franco’s victory ended Spanish influence in the League. Spain was not considered a ‘Great Power’; it was not a permanent member of the League Council, but it was large enough and had friends in South America
(Spanish America as De Madariaga calls it), so that Spain was often chosen to lead League efforts when a ‘neutral’ state was needed.

From these memoirs of De Madariaga, written when he was 80 and recalling the period from 1921 to 1936, one gets a good view of the inner workings and the spirit of the League of Nations. They are memories rather than documented research as most of his personal papers were destroyed when Franco took control of Madrid where De Madariaga had a house and office. Nevertheless, they are a vivid picture of the period and the early functioning of a world institution of which the UN is the continuation in the same buildings. The main League of Nations building for most of its Geneva history is now the office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, and the Palais des Nations, finished just as the UN was ending its life, is now the UN’s main European headquarters.

Salvador De Madariaga had a first-hand knowledge of the League, having joined its Secretariat in 1921 when it was being created as the first world civil service by Sir Eric Drummond and Jean Monnet. De Madariaga come from a distinguished Spanish family. His father was a military officer who believed that Spain had lost the Spanish-American war to the USA because of a lack of technology. Thus he encouraged his son to have an international technical education, and Salvador De Madariaga went to the elite Ecole Politecnique and the Ecole des Mines, both in Paris and ended with an mining degree which he never used. However, it gave him a certain image of having technical knowledge and so he was chosen to head the Disarmament Department of the League in 1922 as some people mistakingly thought disarmament was a technical problem. As De Madariaga argues in his book Disarmament (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1929) written just after leaving the League Secretariat “ disarmament is an irrelevant issue; the true issue being the organization of the government of the world on a co-operative basis.”....

cont....
 

cont...


De Madariaga left the League Secretariat in 1928, largely because the League had accepted to fire Bernardo Attolico as Under Secretary-General and replace him by Paulucci di Calvoli Barone, a chief assistant of B. Mussolini. There were always persons from the Great Powers in influential League posts, but they were usually intellectuals who believed in the values of the League and not national civil servants. De Madariaga had met Mussolini twice in Rome during disarmament talks. It was De Madariaga’s habit of making quick instinctive judgements of people, and he did not like Mussolini from the start. De Madariaga became a ‘premature’ anti-Fascist. The fact that the League would place a Fascist civil servant in a key position was for De Madariaga a step backward for a real world civil service. As he writes “Here began the downfall of the Secretariat. The Fascist Under-secretary’s room became a kind of Italian Embassy at the League (Save that the Ambassador’s salary was paid by the League), linked directly with Mussolini and openly accepting orders and instructions from him. Paulucci in himself an attractive and friendly person, was nevertheless zealous enough to go about even during official League gatherings sporting the Fascist badge on his lapel.”

As luck would have it, just as he was thinking about leaving the League Secretariat, Oxford University was looking for a professor of Spanish literature for a newly-created chair. Although he had never taught, through League friends, he was named Alfonso XIII Professor of Spanish Studies at Oxford. Once when asked when he had studied Spanish literature, he replied “I didn’t need it before, so I shall study it now in order to teach it.” He held this chair until King Alfonso XIII, who had nothing to do with the chair, was pushed from power.

In 1931 the Spanish Republic was born. The new Spanish Republic leaders, divided among themselves along political lines, were united in wanting the Republic to be represented by intellectuals so that they could explain the aims and values of the Republic. De Madariaga was named Ambassador to France but also asked to represent Spain at the League of Nations since League duties were not considered as a ‘full time job’, and he had League Secretariat experience.

Thus De Madariaga returned to Geneva, one of the few government delegates who knew the workings of the League Secretariat. De Madariaga, when he had been in the Secretariat, because he spoke Spanish, English, and French and was an excellent speaker, had become the chief ‘lay preacher’ for the League and had travelled throughout Europe and the USA giving talks to present the work and the ideals of the League...

cont...
 

cont....

...Geneva was a smaller city at the time and much of the intellectual life related to the League. The League had created the Committee for Intellectual Co-operation as an effort to build an intellectual network of support for the League. De Madariaga gives interesting pen portraits of people he had met in the League effort of intellectual cooperation: Paul Valery, R. Tagore, Albert Einstein, Bernard Shaw, H.G. Wells and others. Knowing leading intellectuals also opened doors to political figures in many countries. De Madariaga’s knowledge of a country’s politics went beyond his contacts with the delegates to the League.

The highlights of De Madariaga’s League efforts were the complicated entry into League membership of Mexico which had been barred by Woodrow Wilson who had bad memories of the Mexican Revolution. Although the USA was not a League member, Mexico had been barred by an annex to the Covenant. De Madariaga had to work so that Mexico would accept League membership without asking for it — such is the craft of diplomacy!
The two most crucial roles were the League efforts at the time of the Japanese attack on Manchuria and the Italian attack on Ethiopia. His detailed accounts merit reading as to the difficulties of multilateral responses to crisis situations

De Madariaga resigned as Spain’s chief delegate to the League as the Republic disintegrated, and Franco took power. From 1936 on he lived outside of Spain, mostly in England and Switzerland and only returned to Spain to visit after the death of Franco. He devoted himself to countering those forces of aggressive nationalism which had destroyed the effectiveness of the League. As he wrote “If peace and the spirit of Europe are to remain alive, we shall need more world citizens and more Europeans such as I tried to be.” De Madariaga encouraged Henri Bonnet, who had been the League Secretariat member in charge of the Committee for Intellectual Co-operation and who was then living in the USA to create in 1939 the World Citizens Association which he did with the young lawyer Adlai Stevenson and Quincy Wright, a leading professor of international relations at the University of Chicago.
De Madariaga helped to create a World Citizens Association in London, also in 1939 — both efforts were too late to block the tide of war. After the Second World War, De Madariaga helped create the College d’Europe in Bruges as a training field for Europeans, especially for those thinking of working in European institutions. He continued his literary and historical interests, writing especially on the founders of ‘Spanish America’. He did some teaching, and in 1955 spent a year at Princeton University in the USA where a new “Special Program in European Civilization” had just been created. His lectures covered the literary analysis of his
Portrait de l’Europe (Paris: Calmann-Levy, 1952). As his student, I was also interested in disarmament and the functioning of the League of Nations so we had many interesting talks. His was a witty and perceptive mind.

http://www.internationalpeaceand
conflict.org/profile/dervish
 

Constance and All:

If anyone has already posted any of this information, I apologize ahead of time. :-)

HAMMER ON THE MOUNTAIN: THE LIFE OF HENRY STEEL OLCOTT

By Rene Wadlow

http://www.theoservice.org/node/279
_______________________________

THE ISRAEL PALESTINE CONFLICT: NECESSARY WORLD EFFORTS PRIOR TO A U.S. SPONSORED CONFERENCE

Rene Wadlow

http://www.carnegiecouncil.org/
resources/ethics_online/0015.html
_____________________________

KHALIL GIBRAN: SPIRITS REBELLIOUS

Posted by Rene Wadlow on October 28, 2009 at 2:02 am

http://www.theosophy.net/profiles/blogs/khalil-gibran-spirits
__________________________________

KHALIL GIBRAN

Khalil Gibran (born Gubran Khalil Gubran[1] bin Mikhā'īl bin Sa'ad; Arabic جبران خليل جبران بن ميخائيل بن سعد, January 6, 1883 – April 10, 1931) also known as Kahlil Gibran, was a Lebanese American artist, poet, and writer. Born in the town of Bsharri in modern-day Lebanon (then part of the Ottoman Mount Lebanon mutasarrifate), as a young man he emigrated with his family to the United States where he studied art and began his literary career.......

....Much of Gibran's writings deal with Christianity, especially on the topic of spiritual love. His poetry is notable for its use of formal language, as well as insights on topics of life using spiritual terms. Gibran's best-known work is The Prophet, a book composed of twenty-six poetic essays. The book became especially popular during the 1960s with the American counterculture and New Age movements. Since it was first published in 1923, The Prophet has never been out of print. Having been translated into more than forty[13] languages, it was one of the bestselling books of the twentieth century in the United States.....read more......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalil_Gibran
__________________________________

Here is an interesting blog....

TRIUNE OF LIGHT - ASHRAM OF SYNTHESIS,HEALING NETWORK, ESOTERIC ORGANIZATION

...with a post that mentions Russian painter, explorer and cultural activist Nicholas Roerich by Rene Wadlow entitled....

THE BRIDGE OF BEAUTY AND UNDERSTANDING

By Rene WADLOW, Representative to the United Nations, Geneva, Association of World Citizens

Only the bridge of Beauty will be strong enough for crossing from the bank of Darkness to the side of Light - -Nicholas Roerich

The United Nations General Assembly in resolution A/RES.62/90 has proclaimed the year 2010 as the International Year for the Rapprochement of Cultures...read more...

http://www.triuneoflight.org/musings/bridge-of-beauty_ReneWaldlow.html

See also....


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I do rather detect a little "eau de Gramsci" in the above article. The key word for me was "cultural activist."
 

Here, Association of World Citizens is #10 on the list.
Lucis Trust is #26.


10 Association of World Citizens, Rene Wadlow, chief representative,


26 LUCIS TRUST, Switzerland, Ghislaine de Reydet, Secretary General,

http://www.wscfglobal.org/show
StoryMediaArchive.php?id=6
________________________________

GHISLAINE DE REYDET - This one should be familiar to you, Constance.



TRIANGLES ( a publication of Lucis Trust)

http://www.lucistrust.org/en/
content/download/1045/10620/file
/142.pdf
________________________________

Here is LUCIS TRUST LTD in London.
There is even a video showing the building located at 3 Whitehall Court, London.

http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/
ltd/lucis-trust,limited(the)
________________________________

Apparently, this is Ghislaine De Reydet on Facebook.

http://af-za.facebook.com/family/De-Reydet/1
_________________________________

Here are a couple of addresses and a list of Lucis Trust Trustees.

Uerel Naser
Beatrice Kersten
Dale McKechnie
Sarah McKechnie
Christine Morgan
SLW Nation
Laurence Newev
Peter H. Peuler-
Linda Quest
Ghislaine de Reydet

http://tinyurl.com/4tgnjqj
_________________________________

Check out the list of "luminaries" listed at the following

THE BRIDGING TREE

Editor: Larry Elwood Auld
Associate Editor: Robert Alan
Silverstein
Contributors: Barbara L. Valocore,
Rene Wadlow, Corinne McLaughlin,
Gordon Davidson, Sharon
Franquemont


http://www.lifebridge.org/pdfs
/
BridgingTree_vol4_no1.pdf
 

Constance, Susanna, and Dorothy,

Great work! When I saw the name Rene Waldow, I knew I had seen it recently involved with something else I was looking at. That something is Transformational Education. Waldo is a leading member of the Association for World Education. A group that works with the UN, UNESCO, ICAE, and IAED to develop curriculum standards that prepare students for world citizenship. There are a lot of interesting cross ties in this one organization. From non proliferation, to various educational groups, to green technologies and urban development, there is a lot going on there.

http://tinyurl.com/49b6ap7

Of interest also, may be AWE leader Jakob Erle. Erle is also the director for the Danish Egyptian Dialogue Institute, a group dedicated to the "de-radicalization" of Egypt. One of the most prevalent groups dealing with human rights and cultural issues in Cairo.

http://tinyurl.com/4tarvel

Of note DEDI was one of the front groups involved in the uproar over the Danish Cartoon depiction of Muhammad. So my question is if DEDI may be stirring the pot again in Cairo?
 

Many THANKS to SUSANNA and DOROTHY for those scholarly inputs. I do have MORNING WITHOUT NOON in my personal library. I have read most of the book with no small interest. I acquired it, as I recall, about 4-5 years ago, ordering it on line from Amazon.com.

The Wadlow connection ties many loose ends together, at least for my understandings.

Constance
 

And MANY THANKS to JD to for HIS scholarly input!!!

Constance
 

Susanne also found these pieces written by Wadlow:

http://www.carnegiecouncil.org/resources/ethics_online/0015.html

http://tinyurl.com/5sx94j7
Title:
The Israel-Palestine Conflict: Necessary World Efforts Prior to a U.S.-sponsored Conference

http://www.theosophy.net/profiles/blogs/khalil-gibran-spirits
http://tinyurl.com/4cgugwq
Title:
Khalil Gibran: Spirits Rebellious

http://www.theoservice.org/node/279
Hammer on the Mountain: The Life of Henry Steel Olcott
Fri, 03/20/2009
(Olcott associated with Blavatsky..dm)
by Howard Murphet, Quest Books, 1972, 339pp.
Book review by Rene Wadlow

"There is, in a period of transition, a need for individuals with the specific talents of organization and the ability to translate doctrines into social policy. Henry Steel Olcott was such an individual.

"The last quarter of the 1800s was a period very much like our own — a period of transition with no firm guidelines as to the shape of the period to come. It was a period, like ours, of cross currents, of strong positive and negative movements."

I just found this one, probably of interest to Christian readers here. It's an interesting website titled
Service Projects for Humanity.

http://www.theoservice.org/taxonomy/term/36

The Divine Seed: The Esoteric Teachings of Jesus
Sat, 12/18/2010 - 00:13
by Pekka Ervast (Wheaton, IL: Quest Books, 2010)
book review by Rene Wadlow
 

I was and am very suspicious of Messianic Judaism and became even more so when I discovered that there was the same kind of Messianic outreach to the Muslim community, i.e., you can be a good Muslim and a good Christian at the same time.

Well, here's the other side of the coin exposed by a Protestant leader.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default.aspx?id=1286950

'Chrislam' in Protestant churches
A Protestant renewal organization is concerned about the recent efforts of some mainline Protestant churches to produce an ecumenical reconciliation between Christianity and Islam.



According to a recent blog post from The Last Crusade, Memorial Drive Presbyterian Church in Houston, along with other congregations in Atlanta, Seattle, and Detroit, preached sermons and held Sunday school lessons on the founder of Islam, Mohammad, whom Muslims consider a prophet. Qurans were also placed in the pews next to Bibles.

Proponents of the movement, which has been dubbed "Chrislam," claim that Christians cannot love their neighbors without having a relationship with them.

Alan Wisdom, director of the Presbyterian Action committee and vice president for research and programs at The Institute on Religion & Democracy (IRD), contends that Islam should never be viewed as an equal to the gospel of Jesus Christ. Moreover, Qurans should never be placed next to God's Holy Word.

"I think that that implies some kind of equal authority there, and I don't think that's the case," Wisdom explains. "The Bible is God's unique revelation to us. The pulpit of a church is for preaching the Word of God, and we believe that that is the scriptures of the Old and New Testament. When we go to worship God, we worship Jesus Christ, and we can't mix that worship with any other allegiance."
The IRD committee director adds that while he believes it is important for Christians to study and understand religions like Islam, he does not think believers should ever cross the line and blend Christianity together with a religion that is antithetical to Christian teachings.
 

One of the most important pieces in the puzzle, IMO:

FCC Unanimously Approves LTE Standard

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/25/fcc-unanimously-approves-lte-standard-for-nationwide-public-safe/
 

More to the story on those rolling blackouts yesterday here in Texas...

Mexico Supplies Electricity To Wintry Texas

MEXICO CITY (AFP) – Mexico's state electricity company on Wednesday started supplying electricity to the US state of Texas, where demand shot up amid unusually cold temperatures and caused power outages.

Mexico's Federal Electricity Commission "was determined to support Texas with electrical energy faced with the problems the state is suffering due to climatological conditions," a statement said.

An energy transfer of 280 megawatts began at midday (1800 GMT) via the north Mexican border cities of Nuevo Laredo, Reynosa and Piedras Negras, it added.

Texas Governor Rick Perry said in a statement that power and emergency management experts were working with utility providers to ensure power was restored as quickly as possible.

"Until that happens, I urge businesses and residents to conserve electricity to minimize the impact of this event," Perry added.

An epic winter storm Wednesday buried more than a third of the United States in drifting snow, sleet and ice that brought air and road travel to a halt.

Snowstorms also paralyzed air transport, blocked operations in factories and caused schools to shut in the Mexican city of Ciudad Juarez, across the border from El Paso, Texas.

Ciudad Juarez mayor Hector Murgia said the temperatures of around minus 13 degrees centigrade (8.6 Fahrenheit) were the lowest recorded in almost 50 years.

http://tinyurl.com/4nlvozf
 

Dorothy,

I think you've missed the point when you say that Chrislam and Messianic Judaism are connected. The Quran contradicts the Bible. It's impossible to have agreement between people who believe in the Bible with people who follow the Quran.

On the other hand, the first followers of Jesus were Jewish. They continued to follow the kosher food laws and the feasts that the Jews of their day followed. Today Messianic Jews are simply going back to the Hebrew roots of Christianity. They are not trying to mix two different religions from two different books. After all Jesus was Jew. Let's not forget that.

Why you are willing to give Kabbalah, Jewish Mystism the benefit of the doubt, but you have doubts about people who want to follow the written Toah just like you do. The only difference is that they believe Jesus is the Messiah and you don't. No need to be suspicious of these folks.

I agree with you. Chrislam is bad news, but Jewish people or even Gentiles who believe in Jesus and want to do exactly what he did are okay in my book.


If you have a problem with people believing in Jesus, I can see why you would get upset with Jewish people like yourself who decide he's their Messiah, but to compare them with these folks who are confusing the Bible and the Quran is a whole different ballgame.

Jimmy
 

Jimmy 4:18
I would suggest you do some research on Messianic Judaism and what takes place in their places of worship. I would also suggest you check out what those same groups are doing when they outreach to Muslims and tell them they can be good Christians and Muslims at the same time.

I presume you've heard that the one world religion promoted by New Age leadership intends to take sections of each religion that they like and blend them into one huge hodge podge. They do not like straight Christianity any more than they like straight Judaism or Islam.

If they are to be blended, then it has to be done through a series of steps that appear acceptable to those being blended.
 

Unfortunately Dorothy, you're willing to accept a very dangerous hodge-podge indeed! That is, mixing Judaism with the evil ancient Babylonian mystery occcultism that is Kabalah!

May you repent of such support for sorcery.

You pretend to be anti-'New-Age' yet support the very cess from which it sustains much of its source, that is kabalah!
 

Anonymous 10:49
I should worry about anonymous people who make silly comments when so much serious information has been posted on this thread? Why don't you spend some time adding to what has been researched instead of making goofy comments off the top of your head. You're just staying anonymous because you don't want anyone who knows you to see how ignorant you are.
 

Unfortunately Dorothy, you're willing to accept a very dangerous hodge-podge indeed! That is, mixing Judaism with the evil ancient Babylonian mystery occcultism that is Kabalah!

May you repent of such support for sorcery.

You pretend to be anti-'New-Age' yet support the very cess from which it sustains much of its source, that is kabalah!

DEAL WITH IT!
 

Drudge really picked a good picture to go with Obama's declaration of belief in Christianity. Have a look at
http://www.drudgereport.com/

Saint Obama? Who knew except the followers of
http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/
 

Michael Savage today wrote and talked about Solana in connection with the riots in Egypt.

http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/files/filesSavage/Savage-ObamaGivingMiddleEastToIslamistRadicals-Rev03.pdf

http://tinyurl.com/4qj3wnt

Surprised me to hear the name Solana and the connection with the ICC coming over the radio
 

Look Dorothy...
I was the first one to post about "Chrislam" on here, so do not pat yourself on the back and think yourself a deep researcher, anyone with brains knows you are trying to bury the posts against the Kabbalah.
 

Anonymous, since you already posted on Chrislam, please share when that was so that your knowledge can be added to that which I posted.
 

Actually, another synonymous name for followers of so-called "Chrislam" would appear to be "Messianic Muslims."

It operates along the same lines as Messianic Judaism insofar as it professes belief in Jesus as Messiah while retaining its Islamic identity

RADICAL MISSIONARY APPROACH PRODUCES "MESSIANIC MUSLIMS" WHO CLAIM TO RETAIN THEIR ISLAMIC IDENTITY

Church planting initiative aims to keep 'offense of cross' but lose 'offense of culture'

Missionaries in regions of the world where Christianity is unwelcome are experimenting with a controversial approach--making converts who hold on to many of their traditional religious beliefs and practices.

"Messianic Muslims" who continue to read the Koran, visit the mosque and say their daily prayers but accept Christ as their Savior are the products of the strategy, which is being tried in several countries, according to Youth With a Mission (YWAM), one of the organizations involved.

Reactions to the practice from other missionary leaders have ranged from "sympathetic criticism" to "enthusiastic support," according to a report in "The International YWAMer," the mission's staff newsletter, which details how the tactic is being applied by a church planter in Asia.

He told of around 50 members of a Muslim family who had decided to become followers of Christ, forming a small fellowship. "They continued a life of following the Islamic requirements, including mosque attendance, fasting and Koranic reading, besides getting together as a fellowship of Muslims who acknowledge Christ as the source of God's mercy for them."

They also meet according to mosque traditions in a style that the leader said would "horrify" many Western Christians. But he said that the strategy was biblical, referencing the early church in Jerusalem where "Jewish followers of Christ became more zealous to keep the law and Jewish customs."

The leader--writing under a pseudonym for security reasons--said that there were issues that needed to be addressed to avoid syncretism, such as Mohammed's place in the new believers' faith. But these were "a matter of process." He wrote: "As the believer's heart changes, he or she places less and less importance on these issues that seem to contradict the gospel. In fact we have found at times the opposite, that we need to encourage the person not to reject his culture and thereby burn bridges with his past."read more...

http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/2000/04/Radical-Missionary-Approach-Produces-Messianic-Muslims-Who-Claim-To-Retain-Their-Islamic-Identity.aspx
______________________________

MESSIANIC MUSLIMS?

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.
com/orrel5.html
 

Trying to find more information about the International Crisis Group, I saw that Rich Peterson posted this paragraph.

http://www.pineline.blogspot.com/
back on September 19, 2010.

"None of us would have known anything about the Dove World Outreach Center’s plans until the September 6 online edition of the Wall Street Journal quoted General Petraeus as saying that the Koran burnings would endanger U.S. troops. Incidentally, Petraeus is now defending himself against Pentagon officials who charge he crossed the civilian-military line. The very next day following the Journal’s report, the International Crisis Group posted a media alert on the Alliance of Civilizations’ Global Expert Finder web site. The International Crisis Group functions as a crisis management tool within the AoC network. The purpose of the Global Expert Finder is to provide journalists with information on how to report on issues surrounding cross-cultural and inter-religious tensions."
 

P.S.

"Chrislam" and "Messianic Judaism" are connected insofar as both are controversial missionary strategies
being used by groups like YWAM ( youth With a Mission )to convert people to Christianity while allowing them to retain certain elements of their former non-Christian identities.

There is a similar strategy being developed to convert Hindus.

YOUTH WITH A MISSION
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth
_with_a_Mission

I am not saying this in any judgemental way. I am merely presenting it as factual information for those who have never heard of it.
 

Need an expert commentary? The AOC will provide one for you, even if you want both sides of the issue.
http://www.unaoc.org/content/view/559/73/lang,english/
 

P.P.S.

FYI

Youth With A Mission partners with World Vision.

World Vision partners with UNICEF which partners with UNESCO.

The first director -general of UNESCO (1946-48) was Sir Julian Huxley, an ardent defender of Darwin's evolution, and who wrote the 1948, "UNESCO: Its Purpose and Its Philosophy."

"The general philosophy of UNESCO should be a scientific world humanism, global in extent and evolutionary in background...its education program it can stress the ultimate need for world political unity and familiarize all peoples with the implications of the transfer of full sovereignty from separate nations to a world organization...Political unification in some sort of world government will be required...Tasks for the media division of UNESCO (will be) to promote the growth of a common outlook shared by all nations and cultures...to help the emergence of a single world culture....Even though it is quite true that any radical eugenic policy will be for many years politically and psychologically impossible, it will be important for UNESCO to see that the eugenic problem is examined with the greatest care, and that the public mind is informed of the issues at stake so that much that now is unthinkable may at least become thinkable."

I think that it would be a little naive to refuse to even consider the possibility that a little cross-pollination has occurred within the aforementioned "partnerships."
 

YWAM has had quite a bit of problems not least of which is promoting bits of hyper-charismaticism including their version of "spiritual warfare" known as "spiritual mapping."

Doing a quick google search, I found this which looks like it accurately assesses this problem; however, that was on first blush. Just a caveat:

http://www.leannepayne.org/articles/displayarticle.php?articleid=1
 

CHRISLAM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrislam

MESSIANIC MUSLIMS
http://ajewwithaview.wordpress.com
/2010/01/14/messianic-muslims/
 

...I should add that this whole doctrine of "spiritual mapping" and "strategic level spiritual warfare" is built largely upon the unbiblical notion of "territorial spirits."

I should also add that this article cites Gregory Boyd as a proponent of this. Boyd is known as an "Open Theist" which means he believes God does not know the future in total; ie, Boyd in effect denies God's omniscience.
 

YWAM seems also to be promoting Dominionism. That should be no surprise given the other info presented.

I should also state this definitively in reference to the info Dorothy and Susanna shared: a "partial" conversion is no conversion at all.
 

Craig,

WOW, Craig. I had never heard of "spiritual mapping." I just checked out the article you linked us to......which, by the way, is an excellent article.

While we know that the devil exists and that Our Lord has delegated His authority to His ministers to cast them out in His name, we need to be very careful not to make any assumptions about the demonic realm that we have no right to make.

Evangelicals are not the only ones who have to deal with this species of unbiblical little cliques within its ranks. There is a creepy little sedevacantist "Catholic" clique down in southern Connecticut that specializes in "demonology" and "exorcisms." Some of their methods are redolent of practices that one might more commonly associate with magic and the occult. Definitely neo-gnostic.

At the end of the day, I am reminded of the words of Our Lord to the "seventy-two" in St. Luke's Gospel when they seemed to be almost bragging about the fact that demons submitted to them in Christ's name:

17 The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.”

18 He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. 20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”

Luke 10:17-20
 

Constance, check your spam folder for disappearing posts.
 

Magnetic Polar Shifts Causing Massive Global Superstorms

NASA has been warning about it…scientific papers have been written about it…geologists have seen its traces in rock strata and ice core samples…

Now "it" is here: an unstoppable magnetic pole shift that has sped up and is causing life-threatening havoc with the world's weather.

For more...

http://tinyurl.com/6xvu89k
 

Susanna (and all):

I only provided the caveat on the above article as I didn't fully vet her sources. The basic info looks accurate. Mike Oppenheimer goes into detail regarding George Otis, Jr.'s Transformations video/dvd (I have a copy of this). In it, Otis claims that once towns/villages/cities have accomplished this "spiritual mapping" this territory is now completely rid of demonic spirits leaving it "Christianized."

The claim is that crime is then reduced to zero or near zero. However, all one has to do is a search on crime statistics on, for example, Hemet, California to find that this obviously was not so. (I also know an individual who lived there just after this town was already "mapped.")

http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain66.htm

This is a method for Dominionism.

Also, here's a transcript of a conversation between Oppenheimer and Steve Mitchell on this subject:

http://www.letusreason.org/Pent63.htm

This whole thing brings up an issue: what about demons -- are individuals demonically possessed/oppressed in our present time? It would seem likely that if individuals were during Jesus' earthly ministry, then some would be today as well.

I bring this up based in part on the goal as detailed by Alice Bailey ("overshadowing" of individuals) and a quote I used in one of my recent articles from a pro-Kundalini practitioner:

“Kundalini rising is sometimes a violent experience, radically changing one’s subtle energy field (making it much less subtle!) and consciousness and perception of energy. The experience can be (and often is in the West) mistaken for insanity (usually acute schizophrenia) or emotional or physical breakdown on a fairly large scale.”

From here:

http://www.dharma-haven.org/oas/kundheal.htm

Given the spirits behind kundalini, I think it probable that individuals could become demon possessed/oppressed as a result of coming into contact. Which then raises the question of proper deliverance for those individuals affected.

I have absolutely NO experience in this area. Comments?
 

YWAM: bad mojo.
Some years back they were important into our small town by a local pastor. They came in "slaying in the spirit" the young people. And the minister who brought them in didn't pan out too well himself. He got his church into big debt with foolish spending and he was removed from his position. He endorsed some people who were later big embarrassments to the church. He was a promoter of ecumenical groups in the town, bringing together people who were unequally yoked.
 

I just listened to Dr Stan Monteith interviewing Jennifer Pekich on Radio Liberty. She mentioned that one of Rick Warren's tame gurus (I forget if it was the Jewish, Moslem or 'Christian' one)was pushing the sa-ta-na-ma mantra.

Knowing how occultists like to play with words, I googled it. First search term - Angelfire Ministries - check it out. Then a video by someone who called themselves by an anagram of Sanat Kumara.

These people are really blatant. The smoke of Satan really is rising in the sanctuary of Saddleback. Always has been, I expect, but now it is plain for all with eyes to see.

Keep up the good work Constance.
 

To Ruth (6:03 AM):

Thank you so much for sharing this information with us.

Yes, the word 'sanat' is just a scrambled version of SATAN.
 

I have not monetized this site myself; THEREFORE, I would appreciate those pushing commercial sites, "gold purchases," etc., NOT to post here -- or if you do post here, skip the obvious links to the commercial sites! I will delete those as soon as they become known to me.

Constance
 

I once heard George Otis (the elder) speak in Washington, D.C. at a workshop for National Religious Broadcasters. The year was somewhere between 1986 and 1988 -- I was there all three of those years. He said we were going to make the EARTH much better than the GARDEN OF EDEN, IN TIME, IN SPACE AND IN HISTORY. This was the George Otis, I believe of Otis Elevators, and I believe he is the son of the Otis of whom you speak.

Constance
 

The Biblical specifications were what enabled me to detect and sniff out the New Age Movement. When I saw some prophetic indicators, e.g. calls for a cashless economic system, global redistribution, "New Christ", channeled "prophets", etc., I started to suspect there was more lurking out there. It was not difficult to find. They were much more open about it then when they thought they had no "backlash" as Donald Keys expressed it in his book EARTH AT OMEGA: PASSAGE TO PLANETIZATION. Incidentally, the publisher of that book was one very critical convert out of the New Age Movement. I am going to put this up on the newer article as well.

Constance