Saturday, November 13, 2010

The Hidden Dangers of our Present Quarrel

Rich of Medford has assembled this valuable video resource for us.  You may watch it below.  This is both THE ARMAGEDDON SCRIPT and ALICE BAILEY in action.  The war is on "religious fundamentalism" pitting the fundamentalists of the world against each other and thereafter using the New World Religion Coalition (aka "Moderates") to wage war on "extremism."  It's not at all unusual to start with one segment and then move on to the others once the dangerous precedent has been set.  Hitler did this in World War II, using the Jews, but planning thereafter to go after all "Jewish based religions," i.e. Christianity.  I, for one, do not wish to play into their game plan!

Stay tuned!
Constance



Comments:
A few nutcases notwithstanding,
everybody knows that true
Christianity wages it's war
spiritually, using spiritual
weapons only.
It always has: the girding of
Truth, the breastplate of
righteousness, the sword of
the Spirit, the feet shod with
the preparation of the Gospel
of peace, and the helmet of
salvation.
To equate fundamental
Christianity with fundamental
Islam is to have no understanding
of either.
Jesus said: "My kingdom is not
of this world."
Maybe the Dominionists and
Mormons, ( who just stopped by
my house as I was writing this),
are getting set to fight the
Moslems, I don't know, but
I've got my hands full fighting
my own sinful nature and hardly
intend to declare war on anyone,
good or bad.

God knows how to protect
his own.
 
Excellent video clip.

What struck me is the urgency issue with the statement, "within the time we have to do this" i.e., stop fundamentalism. The AoC alliance is ramping up.

Dave in CA
 
Paul:

There was clearly a PROPHESIED WAR against those who keep the Faith of Jesus and the Commandments of God. See Daniel 7 and Revelation 13 amongst others. We are not going to win all those battles and we will be prevailed against for a time, times and half a times. There will be many who may lose their faith because of a false interpretation that we never lose!
Besides, the biblical profile of who was taken in by end time deception and who was not was THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH. It was not necessarily PERFECT TRUTH.

Constaance
 
Dave, you are so right!

Constance
 
While you people are concerned about Alice Bailey these people are at the door and Christians are dying NOW!
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/08/muslim220806_600x400.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/ysj25j


Paul, are you saying that Christians should never join the military?
 
What rubbish these people talk. The scriptures of the various faiths are mutually inconsistent, so OF COURSE if you accept one then you disagree with the others. To call that disagreement 'hate' is a NA dirty trick. My faith, New Testament Christianity, tells me to disagree in love. (Whereas the qur'an...)
 
I've also noticed a growing militance within the Dominionistic charismatic ranks within Christendom. And, on Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) the other night during one of their fundraisers I heard a 'sermon' by one Jamal Bryant in which he said something like the following. These may may not be exact quotes as I was half asleep and had to write them from memory as I got up. For those not familiar with this stuff, you must keep in mind that those in the extreme charismatic wing refer to a 'tangible anointing' which is "imparted" from one to another as the Holy Ghost/Spirit which in reality looks an awful lot like Kundalini. Also, "water" is a euphemism for manifestations of the "spirit" as some self-identity this extreme charismaticism as "the river" and other similar names having to do with water:


“God wants to separate the chaff from the wheat.”

“It’s time to get rid of those who are afraid of the Holy Ghost. It’s time to get rid of those who are afraid of the anointing. Turn to your neighbor and say, ‘Are you afraid of the Holy Ghost?’”

“It’s time to separate from those who get on their knees because these are the people of ‘tradition.’ Ask them to leave.”

“God wants people who are like dogs – those who are not afraid to drink the water (the Holy Ghost/Spirit) with their hands.”

 
The elephant in the room that no one at this blog talks about is social conditions. The real unemployment rate in the U.S. is closer to 20%. In order for evil forces to gain political power, social conditions must deteriorate to a "tipping point" whereby people will elect anyone so long as they feel it will get the economy back on track. A desperate populace will accept authoratarian rule in return for a sense of normality and promise of a stable economy. If you don't believe me look at prewar Germany.

I guess it's easier to turn away from social conditions and instead blame people for their own hardships,believing that unemployed people are "lazy," dependent, or not resourceful enough. That's real New Age thinking though- that the individual is entirely in control of his own destiny without reference to objective circumstance (such as the six people chasing after every one job opening). I am reminded of the teaching from EST, "You create your own reality."

An eloquent comment that caught my eye the other day:

What little employment is coming back is in low-paying service jobs--hospitality (waiting tables and pouring beer), retail and customer service. These jobs require disposable income somewhere else in the economy so that people can afford to buy salad shooters and eat at restaurants. We spent the bulk of the Bush years trading down on jobs--manufacturing workers and IT techs earning middle-class incomes having their careers off-shored to Asia.

The US employment future is nothing but service jobs as far as the eye can see, with a sprinkling of accounting and teaching jobs thrown in. This is the jobs profile of a third-world country. And as former Reagan Treasury official Paul Craig Roberts has testified, we're doomed as a country if we continue to off-shore. A nation of bartenders and clerks can't pay the taxes needed to service the debt, much less support the military we keep on call 24/7 to ensure our oil.

Roberts has advocated ending off-shoring by taxing corporate profits with a Value Added Tax. The VAT would be applied to corporations based on where they're adding value--corporations that have high domestic content would pay no VAT; companies that off-shore would pay a high VAT. since the tax is applied to corporate profits, it doesn't change the price of products. And it attacks the root of the off-shoring problem--companies that off-shore keep the savings and apply them to stock prices and dividends. Once it's no longer profitable to off-shore, the jobs will come back. Needless to say, Repubs (and their friends on the Chamber of Commerce) HATE this plan.

 
Shadowstats.com unemployment:

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
 
I believe Barbara Ehrenreich is an atheist or agnostic but nonetheless she has highlighted the connection between New Age thinking and how American culture blames people for their own failures (in health, economics, or otherwise) without reference to social conditions:

Promoting the idea that happiness is within your grasp is in the interests of corporations trying to bamboozle an overworked and underpaid workforce. It's also favoured by churches trying to get rich quick off the American dream. Ehrenreich traces the fad from Calvinist self-control through Christian Science to blatant assumptions of the holiness of cash. Informing the uneducated and unmedicated that their plight is all their own fault is followed up by instructions for making anything you desire – from a new TV screen to a trip to Mexico – "materialise" through mind control. The censorship of negative opinion combines perfectly with the American policy of each man for himself in the best of all possible worlds

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/jan/09/barbara-ehrenreich-smile-lucy-ellmann
 
It must be that all of the information on the New Age movement and its networks has been shared and posted as far as the followers of this blog are concerned.

A friend suggested I start a blog with the information I've gathered over the years. She suggested one without comments so that it couldn't be hi-jacked. I just might do that. I avoided doing that because I felt more readers here are better than possibly no readers somewhere else. I've got to think about this.

Dorothy
 
Good idea Dorothy. Count me in as a reader.
 
I'm a fairly new lurker to your blog and thought this would be a good time to add my .02.

I believe you are dead on with this. I watched this speech a couple of months ago.At the time I thought to myself the foundation is being set to one day (soon) label every Christen as an "extremest."

To me this whole Islamic center at ground zero issue was simply doctored by the elite. The agenda being to shove the idea of religious intolerance to the masses.

Some of us out here do know what is going on.With the lords help I see the satanic net being cast over the world, and it's starting to tighten.

I am glad god uses people like yourself and Dr. Monteith to spread the truth.
 
Anon 5:27,

I have to take exception to your comment. My primary focus is economics and social conditions, because these are what are changing the politics. They are also what is causing and will further cause people to accept the full reality of the technological system that is emerging. The guest piece I am writing for Constance will delve into a very real reality on this end that few seem to be discussing.

I agree it doesn't seem to be a popular topic around here. It's not as easy to understand the broad picture, even though certain elements are right in front of people. I hope with the next two articles to change at least some of that.
 
Is there a pattern here?

Swedish Kids on God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H45P8X1mThw&feature=related

Sweden is an Atheist nation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUhP1_1Xy0A&NR=1

Open your eyes Sweden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ6VI_bc1j4&feature=related

Welcome to Sweden - Manipulation & Reality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl6OluJnT7Y&feature=related

CBN: Malmö, Sweden: Growing Muslim Influence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnP-XzB_U0

No moral code for base group.
Destructive moral code of opposition group has legs.

Has this happened before? Think about it. It's time to review the Nazi connection to Muslims.
 
anything in the media is a lie, it is funded and produced by the elites, this vid and alices book are no different, constances book included...

i am totally against the forced teaming being pushed down our throats here using the resources of the new agers

even the pagans warn about being forced in to a team, it is one of the things martial artists constantly warn their students about, grifters force team ppl to help them "cash in" checks and money, the nigerian 419 scams come to mind...

what my father warned me about salesmen, is happening on this blogspot...

today i saw the salvation army giving away items to the poor, they were stationed outside the local catholic high school, and many muslims were in line for a handout, to me this is the wave of the future, and i will resist it with every fiber in my being, i will not be sold for fables or gold ...
 
Americans were being prepared for today's economy years ago when Bush the Elder began the America 2000 government school program. That was a Global program and the Elites anticipated this situation in which Americans would be mostly doing service worker jobs. When Clinton took over the name of the program became GOALS 2000 but the program was the same. Bush Jr. came on and it became NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND. Because we are becoming Totalitarian. Yes. This was all planned, including our crashing economy. We can't all serve fast-food to each other can we? Most of the people I know still think it's going to turn around and all will be well. (DEMISAL is the word I must type to post. As in DEMISE?)
 
JD,

I will look forward to your guest article. Hopefully it will generate some discussion around this subject.

I have seen a lot of information posted here at the blog about emerging technologies, but not about the social conditions that are driving rollout of these technologies.

The technologies are new but the problem I am talking about, social inequality (which leads to political instability), that will drive the acceptance of these technologies is ancient and timeless.

Pat in Manila mentioned Orwell's book 1984 on the previous thread in the context of how people can be conditioned to love their own slavery. Dorothy has also mentioned this before.

I am of the view that Americans have been conditioned to believe that nearly anything bad that happens to anyone else is the result of their own bad choices or fauilty thinking (see Enrenreicn article) in order to avoid looking at the systemic problems in the American economy that have been building since the 1970's. Some people make bad choices, but this is not true in the main. This is where New Age thought is at its most stealth and broken through most effectively into mainstream thought. To see this clearly we have to look critically at both the Democratic and Republican parties, something many Americans are not able or willing to do, usually because they have strong ties to one party or the other.

As Pat in Manila also mentioned, Satan is very clever and will attack in various ways using anything he can. It is with this in mind that I would say that a politician can hold a moral viepoint (pro-life, for example) along with a New Age one (see above - blaming people for their own difficulties) simultaneously. I am only mentioning this because I have not seen it discussed on the blog.

I hope this clarifies a bit better where I am coming from.
 
Here is the post from Pat from Manila that I mentioned. It kind of got lost in teh blizzard of posts on the last thread but I thought it was quite articulate:

To anon A1

Sorry I'm not very articulate but I'll try.

By looking at the current circumstances, it is very unlikely that the Catholic Church would hunt down all the others. The "Catholic Personality" collectively is not even persuasive nor aggressive.

If you think the world will end through an established POWERFUL religion then almost all Christian denominations and Eastern Religions don't seem to be qualified.

If you've read or have an idea about the book The Brave New World or 1984, you can see that even without a forceful indoctrination the whole of humanity can be brainwashed to love their own enslavement.

Many secular countries would embrace Marxism to some extent as if it is the only possible and applicable solution to a Godless,secular or relativistic nation. Just look at Creme's site, Share International and you would see how this his new age philosophy is intertwined with Marxism implicitly. (Though it is very explicit if you're familiar with it.)

I just tried to explain things as I see it. But I hope to show you how atheism can set up itself to be a world power similar to religion.

If power, I mean force, then I don't think many established religions would qualify to rule the start of the end of the world. If it's secular,relativistic, agnostics, they are not passionate enough about life either, certainly they fuel the start of the end but they may not necessarily want to dominate the world since they are very busy with their iPod's and parties.

That leaves us then to only one possibly (the only 1 I can think about for the moment) which is a military power with both secular and spiritual aspects. Purely atheistic country leaders are not loved in the "free sense" say Mao Tse Tung. Marxism has been an atheistic position that claims to have a goal, while other positions claim to say that since there is no God we do what we wanna do. See that there can be a unity among unbelievers just to destroy the good though they themselves are doctrinally opposed.

My humble conclusion. Satan will do all means to destroy us. He doesn't need to be doctrinally consistent, in fact he just needs to be consistently inconsistent with God. He uses the NAM to fill our spiritual void, and a forceful distribution of wealth to bridge our material needs. Both fundamentally thrive on relativism which denies the absolute value of truth, consequently the denial of the absolute authority and the distinct identity of God.

Pat from Manila

 
A friend suggested I start a blog with the information I've gathered over the years. She suggested one without comments so that it couldn't be hi-jacked. I just might do that. I avoided doing that because I felt more readers here are better than possibly no readers somewhere else. I've got to think about this.

Dorothy,

A blog like this would allow you as the writer to stay focused on the issues. You could either turn comments off or allow people to register before they post comments. This could make for a very interesting and focused forum for looking at broader New Age issues that could stand alongside Constance's forum, which tends to focus on European politics.
 
To those who keep bickering about which church is right.

What is more important? To defend the Catholic Church as the only root to salvation, defend all other denominations or stand up to preach JESUS as the ONLY way to salvation. No church, sect, cult, religion, denomination can save us.

It is JESUS alone who saves us. We don't need church to receive Jesus as our personal Saviour. The way into His immediate presence is now available to all through His blood that was once and for alltime poured out for us to forgive us eternally.

All we need to do is to change our thinking, believe mentally that Jesus is who He said He was (The Son of God, the Word of God made flesh, ie fully man and fully God, born by the Holy Spirit within a virgin, not created but always existed as ONE with God, died for our sins, risen physically from the dead, coming back again

After accepting these things intellectually, you need to receive these things into your heart emotionally, for it says that "even the demons believe but are not saved". You need to be born-again by allowing Jesus into your heart (after confessing to God direct that you are a sinner who needs salvation). You will then be changed into a new person inside to follow Jesus.

Look Church etc is an extra and is designed to help in the discipleship process, but it DOES NOT save you. Church is designed for fellowship, but it DOES NOT save you.

Yes we need to be aware of lying deceptions like NA but it will not take true born-again believers out of God's Kingdom because they cannot be spiritually unborn once they have been born into His kingdom. We are not talking about a NA Christ who is created in us once we become divine. That teaching is error but we are talking about the Jesus who died for our sins living in us from the moment we believe in Him.

Those who embrace NA show that they NEVER truly believed, repented in the first place.

We are supposed to focus our attention on Jesus and His commandments. If we do this then NOTHING will separate us from God. Jesus said "if you love me, obey my commandments" "to those who believed in Him, Jesus said if you follow my teachings you will know the truth and the Truth will set you free". Jesus is the Way, the TRUTH and the Life. His TRUTH and He (as the Truth) will set us free from things like NA. Our job is to focus on JESUS only.

By the way (Constance) the love of the truth is surely referring to the words of Jesus? Truth is subjective to every single individual. Your truth is different from mine and may be opposed but we both love it. The plumbline for truth HAS to be what Jesus calls truth.
 
Allah is God and there is no other! Thank you for being so kind and understanding us Mrs.Cumbey.
 
Slumdog,
I'm not going to try to define what
constitutes a "just war".
A man named Augustine did that
much better than I ever could,
hundreds of years ago.
But don't forget that our present
military is a professional one.
It's driven by $.
I'm just saying, don't equate
political battles with spiritual ones.

This coming war is being stoked
and promoted by people who
are in no way loyal to this country.
Just the opposite:
Do you think Henry Kissinger and
Zbigniew Brazazinski and the
CFR, and the BIS and the World
Bank and the British Crown and
George Soros, etc etc.,give
a flying hoot about America ?

I love this country and I would
join the military to protect it,
just as my father and brother did,
IF it were being run by someone
who loves this country, but it ain't.
Nowadays, wars are produced and
directed for money, just like the
nightly news.
I don't even believe that Obama
has the best interests of America
in mind. He's just a puppet, as was
Bush and Clinton and Bush and
Carter; Freemasons all, and liars.

Nevertheless, God Bless America.
 
Sabina,
If you are Moslem, then I'm sure
you know that you are not supposed
to be making any friends of the
likes of Christians.
That's how I know that you are a
phoney. You're only here
to tear down Constance as you've
been doing for some time now.
 
Some internet info I found on the internet on Ishmael:

"" Ismael was not the destined heir of the covenant; yet, as he belonged to Abraham's family, he was submitted to the rite of circumcision when the patriarch circumcised all the male members of his household. He was then a lad of thirteen (xvii). Abraham's tender love towards Ismael manifested itself on another occasion. He resented Sara's complaint to him, when, on the great festival given at the weaning of Isaac, she requested Agar's and Ismael's summary dismissal because she "had seen the son of Agar the Egyptian playing with [or mocking] Isaac her son". Ismael was Abraham's own "son", and indeed his first- born. At this juncture, God directed Abraham to accede to Sara's request, comforting him with the repeated assurance of future national greatness for Ismael. Whereupon the patriarch dismissed Agar and Ismael with a modicum of provision for their journey. As their scanty provision of water was soon exhausted, Ismael would have certainly perished in the wilderness, had not God shown to Agar a well of water which enabled her to revive the dying lad.

According to God's repeated promise of future greatness for Agar's son, Ismael grew up, lived in the wilderness of Paran, became famous as an archer, and married an Egyptian wife (xxi, 8-21). He became the father of twelve chiefs, whose names and general quarters are given in Gen., xxv, 12-16. Only one daughter of Ismael is mentioned in Holy Writ, where she is spoken of as one of Esau's wives (cf. Genesis 28:9; 36:3). The last incident known of Ismael's career is connected with Abraham's burial, in which he appears associated with Isaac (xxv, 9). Ismael died at the age of one hundred and thirty-seven, "and was gathered unto his people" (xxv, 17)."
 
To those who keep bickering about which church is right.

What is more important? To defend the Catholic Church as the only root to salvation, defend all other denominations or stand up to preach JESUS as the ONLY way to salvation. No church, sect, cult, religion, denomination can save us.

It is JESUS alone who saves us. We don't need church to receive Jesus as our personal Saviour. The way into His immediate presence is now available to all through His blood that was once and for alltime poured out for us to forgive us eternally.

All we need to do is to change our thinking, believe mentally that Jesus is who He said He was (The Son of God, the Word of God made flesh, ie fully man and fully God, born by the Holy Spirit within a virgin, not created but always existed as ONE with God, died for our sins, risen physically from the dead, coming back again

After accepting these things intellectually, you need to receive these things into your heart emotionally, for it says that "even the demons believe but are not saved". You need to be born-again by allowing Jesus into your heart (after confessing to God direct that you are a sinner who needs salvation). You will then be changed into a new person inside to follow Jesus.

Look Church etc is an extra and is designed to help in the discipleship process, but it DOES NOT save you. Church is designed for fellowship, but it DOES NOT save you.

Yes we need to be aware of lying deceptions like NA but it will not take true born-again believers out of God's Kingdom because they cannot be spiritually unborn once they have been born into His kingdom. We are not talking about a NA Christ who is created in us once we become divine. That teaching is error but we are talking about the Jesus who died for our sins living in us from the moment we believe in Him.

Those who embrace NA show that they NEVER truly believed, repented in the first place.

We are supposed to focus our attention on Jesus and His commandments. If we do this then NOTHING will separate us from God. Jesus said "if you love me, obey my commandments" "to those who believed in Him, Jesus said if you follow my teachings you will know the truth and the Truth will set you free". Jesus is the Way, the TRUTH and the Life. His TRUTH and He (as the Truth) will set us free from things like NA. Our job is to focus on JESUS only.

By the way (Constance) the love of the truth is surely referring to the words of Jesus? Truth is subjective to every single individual. Your truth is different from mine and may be opposed but we both love it. The plumbline for truth HAS to be what Jesus calls truth.
______________________________
Another Protestant pushing "Bible only" (Sola Scriptura) as uniquely containing the Fullness of Truth. You claim to be opposed to "bickering" yet you engage in baiting. It is rants like yours that keep this "Protestant-Catholic" meme going. You dont see Catholics here out of the blue posting rants about how Catholicism is the Only Way and Protestantism is false.

It is baiting posts like these, that push the superiority of Protestant theology, that cause the dissension on this blog.

For the umpteemth time, Catholics believe JESUS founded the Roman Catholic Church. You don't believe that? Fine. Let's agree to disagree. As a Roman Catholic I respect your right to adhere to Sola Scriptura but stop pushing it on me as though it is objective truth. In short, stop baiting me.
 
test
 
Hi Dorothy,

You have so much valuable information and I've urged you to start a blog for years -- I'll promptly link to it when you do.

Go for it!

Constance
 
Paul,
You are wrong. Historically we have been friends to both Christians and Jews. Ask the ultra-Orthodox and they will tell you the truth. Please do not try to continue your anger with me. Keep it confined to those who do not like Islam and attack Mrs.Cumbey for respecting our faith.

And I am not "moslem"..I am a Muslima. My faith is Islam.
 
Well then Sabina,
I guess you don't read the Q'ran.
It says:
"Believers, take no friends to
yourselves of the Jews or the
Christians."
Right ?
Islam's very bloody history as a
religion speaks a lot louder than
your present politics.
And your telling me not to
comment to you, but to "keep it
confined to ..." is a real gem of
misdirection.
Anyway I have no desire to
dialog with you either.
Just so you know, we aren't all
so dumbed-down as to buy
your mantra about peaceful
co existance with Jews and
Christians. Some of us know
that what you're referring to is
Sharia law.
No thanks. That isn't peace.
Also, and more importantly,
Jesus Christ died for your sins
and mine. He loves you, and me.
It's all about what we do in
response to this love that
God sent to all mankind as a
free gift. We cannot earn it.
You should join the thousands
of Moslem people who are daily
coming to Christ all over the
world.
 
Who mentioned Sharia besides you? I do not believe in utilizing Sharia law. I am much more along the lines of thinking as Irshad Manji.

http://www.irshadmanji.com/

You are very full of invective and slanderous language. I pray you find the love of Allah and peace.
 
Dear Sabina

I have spoken to many muslims in my time. I used to play cricket with a Pakistani team. I know what a Muslim sounds like. You are not a born muslim or you are a converted Western Muslim, but you do not understand your religion yet.

You are just a nominal muslim OR you are pretending to be one just to stir things up and make Constance appear correct in what she says.

However, if you are genuine (I doubt it) blessings to you in Jesus Name and may you come to know the REAL truth in Jesus as the only one who has risen from the dead,
not to die again and is STILL
alive.

If you are not genuine, bless you anyway and may you be convicted by the power of God for your deceptive spirit.
 
This is amusing. Now you presume to have insight into my ethnicity? I was born in India, raised Muslim and know my faith very well. You are just one of those who hate my faith and hate Mrs.Cumbey for not taking your position. You can make any odd claim about me you wish to make. The truth is not harme dby your accusations. Prophet Isa(pbuh)never claimed to be Allah. He was a real prophet, so please do not abuse him in this way.
 
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