Monday, September 29, 2008

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES VOTES DOWN FINANCIAL BAIL-OUT BILL

"MEN'S HEARTS FAILING THEM FOR FEAR . . . "  Many are today.  Personally, I can hardly move a keyboard or a pen . . . absolutely worthless on this, my first day back at office.  Events are coming to such a rapid head, it is difficult to find words to express them, except perhaps by looking at the biblical book of Lamentations.  I have been struggling to finish Part VI of series -- all my facts are assembled -- but looking at the immensity of current world events, makes even some of that look trivial.  

May the Lord help us all as we enter these prophesied times together.  I am personally calling it a day -- my head needs to be a little less spastic before I can compose coherently.

Constance

Comments:
I find it very encouraging that God is in control. I also find it very interesting that now... in these end times... that the "money changers" are again causing grief in the soon to be Kingdom of God! Just as Jesus rebuked them in the temple (Mark chap 11) by using a verse from Isaiah 56... He will soon rebuke them again in a much harsher way!

Praise God and Jesus come!
 
Constance,

Here's a link to a Fox video describing the behind-the-scences players in the mortgage meltdown.

Sean Hannity discussed the topic on his radio show today; but I haven't been able to find out how it's archived or how to download it.

He played clips of Barney Frank; Charles Schumer; Chris Dodd; Nancy Pelosi, and Maxine Waters (no longer in Congress) praising Fannie and Freddie and saying that they saw no need for oversight and that warning of impending problems were not to be taken seriously.

I also ran across a piece on my local Fox station a couple of days ago. It came on during the 10:00 news and told of former President Clinton's former Fed Chair, Alan Greenspan's, and Congress's involvement in sponsoring new legislation and in waiving the rules and for the types of transactions that Fannie/Freddie and banks could legally do.
Somewhat odd in that I can't find it on a search of the site, anymore.

Talk about the chickens guarding the henhouse!

http://tinyurl.com/3f43uz
 
Have you heard anything on the bill for the Real Id in CA? Has the Governor not vetoed/signed it?
 
John W. Spring will be up on SB 60 of California and what Gov. Schwarzeneggar has done with it.

Constance
 
777 - God's number?
 
777, Yep, God's number. Scarier but more delightful all at the same time. Also the bailout was 700 and the percent was 7. Interesting indeed, everyone is always looking for the sixes, today was the sevens.
 
Constance and all,

These days we find our selves in are truly exhausting. Just as we can become weary at the end of a long days work, many of us may find ourselves exhausted as we enter the twilight of our final days of work before the Lords return. I personally keep you all in my prayers as I know personally fatigue is setting in.
For those of us watching the enemies actions knowing of their plan, the news of this bailout failure to pass congress should not be a huge surprise. Since they want all nations to be "interdependent" on one another the US can not stand alone. Economic failure seems to be the tool being used to make the US dependent on them and their global system, which they are ever shamlessly promoting.
All here should know the events about to unfold upon the world. As difficult and tiring as this may be, it pales in comparison to what many of us may endure over the next couple years. I pray the Lord grants us all the strength to push forward through these final days, and for that strength to be a witness of He to whom we belong. My love and gratitude go to all here, as many of you have been direct answers to my own prayers, and many times your testimonies and work have been what gave me the extra strength to push onward. I have no doubt even as I type this an eye is being kept on us by the enemy, so just for clarification, Jesus is Lord and I accept no substitutes!

JD
 
Jim Marrs claims to have heard rumors to the effect that McCain would drop out of the race, and the corporate bailout would lead to a suspension of the election around the week of Oct 5th.


Rumors are also on the lips of leaders in enmity with the United States. Who's repeating the rumors, and who's starting the rumors?

http://www.infowars.com/?p=4934#comment-562760

Hand of God

HE is the only one that can saves this country from the people that want him removed from the government. Our great nation will not stand if we delete HIM from all aspects of our government as the atheists want.

Yes, I do Love God.

He is my source of existence and Savior.

He keeps me functioning each and everyday.

Without Him, I will be nothing.
Without Him, I am nothing but with Him I can do all things through Christ that strengthens me.
Phil 4:13

Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.
Joshua 1:9
 
Anonymous 9:41,

http://tinyurl.com/4za7ld

Rush Limbaugh played the audio of this video today. It was very interesting Congressional meeting from 2004. Much of what Hannity played came from this meeting.

Deannie
 
I don't know if I can post because Google baffles me, but I want to say how much I appreciate those here. It is interesting that Constance takes this seriously. Some are simply blowing off the financial mess as a bump, not the end or winding down. I am just sad as all of you are. And hoping for the Lord to come now...I know Mr. Peters did not believe in that, and no one knows for sure. But I hope.
 
I've been keeping tabs on all the heads of state who are calling for a "new international financial order". See below and please add if you have seen more:

President Nicholas Sarkozy (he's even convening a summit)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080929/bs_afp/francefinancebankinguspoliticseconomy_080929215502

Prime Minister Gordon Brown

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0809/S00642.htm


Secretary General Ban Ki Moon (note quote on right side of website)

http://www.un.org/sg/

Leading government run newspaper in China:

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSPEK4365020080917?sp=true

What appears to be new is the calls from Western countries. The drumbeat is getting more steady and louder in the past few years. Back in 2000, China and a collection of developing countries called for a new international economic order:

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200006/16/eng20000616_43223.html

But, now we're seeing our allies call for it. In the EU:

http://www.infowars.com/?p=4955
Calls For New EU Financial Order Increase As Total Meltdown Becomes Likely

Sorry to add to anyone's stress. I just thought it might be helpful to put all these calls for a new order in one place.

Blessings in Him,

Deannie
 
re: 777 - Even I could state many thoughts, theories, interpretations whatever into this.

Speculations are empty.
Truth RULES.

What is the truth here?

Do you know that the powers, principalities & rulers of this world also manipulate numbers?

Do you think whatever happens in this world is from GOD?

God has given us His brethren the keys of the Kingdom - what are we doing with those keys? (cricket noise).

Let us seek truth and it will protect us.

Shalom,
Barb
 
Deannie,
1:12

Thanks. I'll play this audio for some folks I know.
 
This from Drudge today:

http://tinyurl.com/3fc3kk
 
I know how you feel Constance.

You in particular have contributed a huge amount to our understanding of the enemies plans and purpose. Be of good courage. Our God is faithful and always one step ahead.

Hallelujah,

Pete
 
re:777

I tend to agree with Barb that this is open to interpretation . 7 is the number of completeness. The bible also used the 7's in reference to Lamech who was 7th from Adam in Cain's geneology . Enoch was 7th from Adam in Seth's geneology. Lamech was evil, Enoch was good. Lamech was out for vengence 77 times over the 7's of Cain. He died at age 777. Many gnostics associate Cain with being the guy they revere-not Abel- Hitler seemed to be of this mind.

We need to pray for discernment,here, but in the end God's (OUR GOD- JESUS CHRIST)hand is in control and that's all that matters.
 
All,

NA Connections with GOP VP debates:

In addition to the Democratic Convention being held in Denver (and a link I posted re: a NA convention and its speakers/topics the week before the convention), it seems that Republican preparation for the vice-presidential debates will be held at Senator McCain's place
in Sedona, AZ, a well-known NA center.

Here's some info. on Sedona:
http://www.visitsedona.com/index.php?action=article&id=95

While trying to find our more about this, I found "The Sedona
Method." Tapes, seminars, etc. on how you're the power, and how the power within will cure all ills...."

Take a look at the flash feeds about notable endorsements (click on the link about more endorsements) to see who has bought into this. One is a man who has written "Awakening the Buddha Within." --The usual NA/Oriental philosophical slant.

http://tinyurl.com/4evzyl
 
Also from Drudge today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW9b0xr06qA

Children singing about Senator Obama. Drudge says, and I agree, it is remniscent of North Korea's "Dear Leader", yuck!

Listen to the words, watch the parents in the room and look think about the effort that went into this. It's twisted.

Deannie
 
Deannie-

I guess that is what they do in the Public schools instead of learning to read and write.

In case you are interested here are the lyrics:
WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE WORLD Music and lyrics by Lily Campbell, age 9

We're gonna spread happiness
We're gonna spread freedom
Obama's gonna change it
Obama's gonna lead 'em

We're gonna change it
And rearrange it
We're gonna change the world.


SING FOR CHANGE
Music and lyrics by Kathy Sawada

Now's the moment, lift each voice to sing
Sing with all your heart!
For our children, for our families,
Nations all joined as one.
Sing for joy and sing abundant peace,
Courage, justice, hope!
Sing together, hold each precious hand,
Lifting each other up;
Sing for vision, sing for unity,
Lifting our hearts to Sing!


YES WE CAN
Music and lyrics by Kathy Sawada

Yes we can
Lift each other up
In peace, in love, in hope
Change! Change!

sing...vote
 
An article in Newsweek by Eboo Patel (called the Rick Warren of Islam) ironically writes about Rick Warren. Apparently, Warren is no longer a Pastor but Patel calls him an "Interfaith Activist".

Quote:

"Rick Warren, Interfaith Activist
Rick Warren is our new Billy Graham - at the center of not only his own Christian tradition, but of American civil religion as well."

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/eboo_patel/2008/09/rick_warren_interfaith_activis.html


"This is a big deal, because it signals an important turn in the American Evangelical tradition - from viewing people of other faiths primarily as lost souls requiring conversion to viewing them as partners in the plan to make earth more humane and just. "Progressive Evangelicals" like Jim Wallis, Brian McLaren and Tony Campolo (read an interview here with Campolo on interfaith cooperation), have long been involved in interfaith efforts, but the mainline of that tradition has always been more wary. That could be changing.

That approach is American pragmatism at its best: a visionary leader engaging all possible partners in his plan to transform earth."

I don't know about you, but it's disconcerting to hear about "Evangelicals" trying to "transform" the earth.

I have heard that the obstacle to a one world religion is Christianity and Judaism and the obstacle to a one world government is the middle class. I would say the final assault on both is underway.

Blessings,

Deannie
 
Dawn,

Thanks for the lyrics. When it's written down you can really appreciate the new age flavor, huh?

Is this why you homeschool? It's one of our reasons.

Blessings,

Deannie
 
Has anyone ever heard of the "Cloward-Piven Strategy?"

There is talk to the effect that the current crisis has been deliberately orchestrated by the radical left in order to either bring about the collapse of our capitalist economy or to manipulate the outcome of the upcoming election by frightening people with a "crisis" that can be blamed on Republicans.

According to the reports about the bailout vote, the Democrats didn't need Republican votes to pass the bailout bill.

If the sky were really falling, and a dire emergency actually existed, how come the Democrats didn't just go ahead and vote in the bailout without Republican votes???

How come Congress agreed to shut down for the Jewish Rosh Hashanah holiday?

Even Senator Joseph Lieberman works on the Sabbath in an emergency.

In such an emergency, Senator Lieberman walks to work and tries to violate as few of the Sabbath ordinances as possible, but he nevertheless shows up for work on the Sabbath in an emergency.

For me, each day that goes by serves as further evidence that this financial "crisis" is at least partially a setup.

Here are some links so you guys can see what I am talking about. Sorry in advance for the length of this post.
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CLOWARD-PIVEN STRATEGY

Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis

First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse....read entire article...

http://tinyurl.com/48htvg
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BARACK OBAMA AND THE STRATEGY OF MANUFACTURED CRISIS

http://tinyurl.com/4dzmmq
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A MUST READ: THE CLOWARD-PIVEN STRATEGY AND OBAMA'S ROLE

http://tinyurl.com/3nol99
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IS THIS BANK CRISIS A CLOWARD- PRIVEN STRATEGY?

http://tinyurl.com/4ywxf5
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CLOWARD-PIVEN STRATEGY - THE LEFT AND OBAMA'S ATTEMPTS TO DESTROY AMERICA

http://tinyurl.com/43g5dg
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OBAMA, VOTER FRAUD & MORTGAGE MELTDOWN


The Cloward-Piven Strategy

Columbia University sociology professors Richard A. Cloward (1926-2001) and his wife, Frances Fox Piven, also influenced ACORN leaders. In 1966, the husband-and-wife team promulgated the Cloward-Piven Strategy to change the U.S. political landscape by overloading local, state, and federal agencies with welfare applicants making impossible demands and leading to violent confrontations with authorities. Cloward and Piven held that poor people can only advance when society is afraid of them. By advocating massive, no-holds-barred voter registration campaigns, they sought a Democratic administration in Washington, D.C. that would re-distribute the nation’s wealth and lead to a totalitarian socialist state. Their strategy to create political, financial, and social chaos that would result in revolution blended Alinsky concepts with their more aggressive efforts at bringing about a change in U.S. government. To achieve their revolutionary change, Cloward and Piven sought to use a cadre of aggressive organizers assisted by friendly newsmedia to force a re-distribution of the nation’s wealth. It would be telling to know if Obama, during his years at Columbia, had occasion to meet Cloward and study the Cloward-Piven Strategy.

In 1967, Cloward and Piven had recruited George Wiley to lead the National Welfare Rights Organization; and Wiley hired Rathke. The NWRO confrontations, sit-ins, and boycotts were highly successful. In 1975, when New York City was forced into bankruptcy as a result of overloading the welfare rolls with massive numbers of poor people, New York Mayor Rudy Guiliani called the Cloward-Piven Strategy “an effort at economic sabotage.” Nevertheless, the strategy worked and led to ACORN’s Project Vote. The Cloward-Piven Strategy and ACORN were major factors in passage of the “Motor-Voter” Act of 1994, which opened a can of worms.

Cloward and Piven were joined over the years by nouveau billionaires led by George Soros. Through his Democracy Alliance, they funded ACORN and Soros groups such as America Votes and Center for Community Change. If this is where Obama got his change message, we have a better idea of what kind of change he has in mind.

The new millennium take on the Cloward-Piven Strategy attempts to bring about this change by using Internal Revenue Service concepts that include tax-cuts to sugarcoat concurrent increases in collateral taxes on Medicare, sales, luxury, gas, user, licensing, property, employment. On the horizon are proposed taxes led by the Obama-sponsored Global Poverty Act that would tax every U.S. man, woman, and child $2,500 for a total of $845 billion to help the United Nations eliminate global poverty. The goal remains the same, to re-distribute the wealth of the nation....read entire article...

http://tinyurl.com/4836u6
 
Deannie-
Lack of teaching of the skills, indoctrination of ideas, and the anti-Christianity of the schools are all sub reasons why we homeschool. Our major reason is that we feel that God has called us to homeschool.

I believe that God gave my children to me to raise. Me. Not the Government. Not any other teacher. Ultimately, whether I put my kids under another person of authority, such as Sunday school teacher, I am still responsible for my kids.

Now that I have taught my daughter to read, I can believe that I could have missed out on that wonderful experience. For those who don't know, that process is better than when your children finally learned to potty by themselves.

Okay off my soapbox now.
 
Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis

http://tinyurl.com/3nkrp7

Alert others!

GOD IS STILL IN CHARGE FOLKS...even when we are tired and overwhelmed...take rest IN HIM not in men!
 
Susanna,

Brilliant post! I'm sending to all who will care in my circle of family and friends.

Deannie
 
Solana is all over the place...
http://tinyurl.com/5xe3u5

http://tinyurl.com/4aoxjx

http://tinyurl.com/3lw67k

http://tinyurl.com/3kuhqp
 
Gordon Brown Seeks a Global Finance Ministry

WRITTEN BY CHARLES SCALIGER

TUESDAY, 23 SEPTEMBER 2008 19:22
The ongoing chaos in the world’s financial markets shows no sign of abating, and governments, financiers, and their kept economists are now openly talking of a reprise of the Great Depression, unless something is done quickly.

In the midst of the hubbub in Washington over the proposed $700 billion congressional bailout, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown is arriving in the United States this week along with Chancellor of the Exchequer Alistair Darling to promote a long-term international solution: a new global regime for managing the world’s finances. In a speech to Labor Party members on Monday, Darling drew the tedious and inevitable parallels between the financial crisis and other global problems: “Just as one government alone cannot combat global terrorism, just as one government alone cannot combat climate change, so one government alone cannot deal with the consequences of globalisation.”

What Brownand Darling will propose, according to an article in the British newspaper The Guardian, is “a stronger international regulatory system, based around an early-warning system run by the IMF.” They will be traveling to the United States and Europe over the next few weeks in order to “create an international consensus for a tougher global system of regulation.”

Prime Minister Brown independently confirmed his commitment to the new plan, telling Labor Party members in Manchester on Tuesday that “global standards and supervision” are now urgently needed “because the flows of capital are global, then supervision can no longer just be national but has to be global [sic].”

What Brown, Darling, and doubtless many other members of the globalist coterie are contemplating is nothing less than a global financial ministry — to complement the global trade ministry, the WTO, already in place — that will supervise and regulate the activities of central banks, including the Federal Reserve, as well as all international financial and banking activities. To be sure, elements of an international financial regime are already in place with the Bank of International Settlements and the International Monetary Fund, but these organizations have no ultimate international statutory authority over how banks, investment funds, or governments may choose to conduct their financial affairs. While the details of the Brown-Darling proposal have not been made public, it is easy to envisage a new global authority with ultimate control over the global money supply, with regulatory oversight over all international public and private financial activities, and with the power to shut down or bail out any bank or other financial corporation at any time.

Just as America effectively surrendered her sovereignty over trade more than a decade ago with the creation of the WTO, so now she is in very real danger of losing her financial independence, with the unprecedented global financial turmoil the useful pretext.
 
CLOWARD-PIVEN STRATEGY
CRISSI MANAGEMENT
CRISIS = OPPORTUNITY
ORDER OUT OF CHAOS

pick one - they all come from the same source - same basic stradegy, definitely same sought after outcome.

GOD IS STILL IN CHARGE FOLKS - in this I rest

Solana is all over the place...- I have been wondering what his role behind all has been recently


DouginMI
 
Say what you want about Obama, the only one who wins if he's president in Solana. Of course, Solana wins even if McCain becomes president. So, I'm not feeling good about any of this. Hey, it looks like today the stock market has rebounded some. Maybe financial disaster isn't around the corner. Oh well, Solana wins regardless of the stock market.
 
It is extremely important to see the size of this link in the network behind Obama. Susanna provided the link.

Obama's people are working to have the general population dancing like puppets on the strings they are pulling, each string being an idea leading to a planned goal.

They have patience. The supposed need for the bailout was a plan put into operation many, many years ago.

The only foil for their schemes is
when people live by the virtues and avoid the vices humans are prone to.

http://www.newsmax.com/politics/obama_voter_fraud/2008/09/22/133091.html
Behind Closed Doors

"ACORN, as a private organization, is not required to publicize its activities, donors, expenditures, members, or myriad of front organizations. ACORN is a membership organization with an estimated 175,000 member families in the United States and up to 500,000 member families worldwide paying at least $120 per year. With a budget of $100 million or more, ACORN employs about a thousand people. Money flows in to ACORN coffers from the federal government, including the present Bush Administration, and from such foundations as Heinz, Annie E. Casey, Open Society Institute, Ben and Jerry’s, as well as from the Woods Foundation and the Joyce Foundation, on whose boards Obama sat in Chicago.

"Among the ACORN subsidiaries and satellites are the ACORN Institute, Project Vote, Service Employees International Union–Local 100, WalMart Alliance for Reform Now, ACORN Housing Corporation (AHC), Living Wage Resource Center, ACORN Law on the Web, KABF Radio, KRON Radio, Site Fighters, the quarterly journal Social Policy, Financial Justice Center, New York’s Working Families Party, Precinct Action League (PAL), Citizens Services Inc., Katrina Survivors Association, Citizens Counseling, Inc., and Clergy and Laity United for Economic Justice. In 2008 Wade Rathke and his brother, who admitted to embezzling nearly a million dollars from ACORN, made their departure from the Association."

Now students...can you tell which vices ACORN people are prone to?

Hint..check out the list of seven deadly sins.
http://www.whitestonejournal.com/seven_deadly_sins/
 
Deannie,

Thanks for giveng "legs" to the links I posted.

Here is a YouTube video that Obama & Co. has reportedly been trying to have banned from the internet. The music had to be changed to classical instead of rock because of a "copyright claim" by Universal Music Publishing.

It has already been reportedly viewed more than a million times.
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BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE: WHAT CAUSED OUR ECONOMIC CRISIS?

http://tinyurl.com/3e6bu9
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Here are links that tell the story about the "life and hard times" of the BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE video.

http://tinyurl.com/3ndks2
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By all means pass this video around as well. Make it "go viral!"
 
Susanna,

I like that video much better without all the music. I had to turn down the music and use my pause button a lot. My mind couldn't digest the information whilst listening to music. I wonder if that video going viral has anything to do with only 26% of respondents trusting government to "fix" the problem according to this Rassmussen report:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/just_26_have_confidence_that_lawmakers_know_what_they_re_doing_in_economic_crisis

or

http://tinyurl.com/54lab6


Deannie
 
Anonymous 4:44

Thanks for posting that part of the link about ACORN entitled "Behind Closed Doors."

It is important information, but I didn't want to take up any more space.

The only other thing I have to say is that this country seriously needs to repent and return to being "one nation under God."

It is those very deadly sins you mentioned that are the real root of this "crisis."
 
Hi Deannie,

Check this out. It's the latest update on the video. Just goes to show that WE can do a little "flooding" of systems ourselves. "Going viral" at its finest!
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UNIVERSAL RETRACTS COPYRIGHT CLAIM ON "BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE"-- ROCK ON ACTIVISTS!!!
TheMouthPeace Channel YouTube ^ | 9/30/2008 | GVnana

Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:05:25 PM by GVnana

TheMouthPeace is back in business!

See video at link!

http://tinyurl.com/4yuzw4
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I know the video runs a little fast. I had to pause it often myself to digest it. On the following thread are some links that correspond to the video.

http://tinyurl.com/44soef
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It is very possible that the video "going viral" may be a reflection of the Rasmussen Report for which you posted a link.

As for me, I think that many lawmakers know EXACTLY what they are doing - only they are NOT doing it for the benefit of the American people.
 
To Susanna:

That was the first I heard of that strategy. Thanks for a most informative and relevant post!

Constance
 
By the way,Deannie, the song that was playing on the BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE video when I first saw it was "Money for Nothing" by the British group known as Dire Straits.

http://www.last.fm/music/Dire+Straits

The song extolls the principle of "maximum gain with minimum effort."
 
Ron Paul's unique reasoning for voting no to the bailout:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBVB1Uc0nko

He says it will ultimately destroy the dollar and if the dollar collapses, the entire economic system is in much deeper trouble than we see now.

It's interesting that the dollar climbed when the bailout failed. One article I read attributed the dollar increase vis a vis the Euro to a failure of European banks. Perhaps itwas the bailout failing?

Deannie
 
Susanna,

Great post at 12:31! I was just going to post a link to the American Thinker article by Jim Simpson, but I think you got it there.

After reading that article, my opinion is that this "Bailout" is actually an economic terrorist attack on America.

We don't need any committee meetings investigating this. This should be investigated by the F.B.I. and Homeland Security and all elected officials, and bureaucrats involved should be investigated and prosecuted no matter how high up this goes.

As far as I'm concerned the whole Democratic Party should be charged with conspiracy to commit sedition!

HK
 
http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/09/29/ron-paul-warns-of-dark-ages-on-glenn-beck-radio-show-audio/2207/

Ron Paul on Glen Beck warns about dark ages if Congress doesn't fix the budget and its fundamental way of doing business.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/30/food.ethicalliving

Meat must be rationed to four portions a week, says report on climate change• Study looks at food impact on greenhouse gases
• Return to old-fashioned cooking habits urged

from the Drudge Report
 
Hi Constance:

Here is an interview with Frances Fox Piven ( of Cloward-Piven ) that was aired 2/06/08.

http://tinyurl.com/4bbmlk
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The Cloward-Piven team was so obsessed with destroying the U.S. free market economy that they went so far as to openly disapprove of programs that would train people on welfare with a view to enabling them to become qualified to enter the work force.
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The Myth of the Working Poor
Steven Malanga

"But the new thinkers quickly veer to the left of Harrington, following some of his more radical acolytes whose theories produced the War on Poverty's most spectacular disasters.

Harrington had seen the poor as victims because they could find no work; his more radical allies, especially a group associated with Columbia University's social-work school, argued that compelling the demoralized inner-city poor to work or take part in training that would fit them for work, instead of giving them unconditional welfare, was itself victimization.

Richard A. Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, for example, argued that America's poverty programs—"self-righteously oriented toward getting people off welfare" and making them independent—were violating the civil rights of the poor. Journalist Richard Elman claimed that "vindictive" America was "humiliating" welfare recipients by forcing them to seek entry-level work as taxi drivers, restaurant employees, and factory laborers, instead of giving them a guaranteed minimum income.

Sympathetic mayors and welfare officials responded to Cloward and Piven's call, boosting benefits, loosening eligibility rules, and cutting investigations of welfare cheating. Welfare rolls soared, along with welfare fraud and illegitimate births. The result was a national backlash that sparked the Reagan administration's welfare spending cuts.

But the Columbia crew left its enduring mark on welfare policy, in the principle that welfare, once a short-term program to help people get back on their feet, should be continuous and come with few restrictions and no stigma. A welfare mother, screaming at New York mayor John Lindsay (responsible for much of the city's rise in welfare cases), expressed the system's new philosophy: "It's my job to have kids, Mr. Mayor, and your job to take care of them." It was a philosophy that bred an urban underclass of non-working single mothers and fatherless children, condemned to intergenerational poverty, despite the trillions spent to help them....read entire article.....

http://tinyurl.com/47y77
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You see the mentality that prevailed here?

How DARE we expect an able-bodied "poor" person to work for his daily bread!

I saw this mentality here in Massachusetts - along with some of the "welfare queens" described by President Ronald Reagan.

If I am not mistaken, Massachusetts ran neck in neck with New York in terms of being among the easiest states in which to get on the welfare dole....until the 1996 welfare reforms were set in place.

http://tinyurl.com/3pxl62

http://tinyurl.com/4ap2np

http://tinyurl.com/2t64xx

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GUESS WHAT? WELFARE REFORM WORKS

http://tinyurl.com/4zvtep
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This welfare scheme serves as the perfect example of how "the poor" were - and still are - being used as "foot soldiers" for the socialist cause!
 
Hi hk-91,

Thanks and spot on in your view that the FBI should be conducting the investigations!

You might be interested to learn that according to recent reports, the FBI is conducting an investigation into Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and other financial entities that have gone belly-up.
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FBI Investigating Potential Fraud by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Lehman, AIG

http://tinyurl.com/4db6dq
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If you haven't heard about this already, you might also be interested to know that the Democratic Socialists of America have long been seeking to make common cause with the radical left wing of the Democratic Party.

http://tinyurl.com/yslyzm
 
Hi again, Constance,

I meant to tell you that if you want to use or share any of the information I've posted here, please feel free to do so - no strings attached. :-)
 
Hi Barb/shalom - Great point about Truth vs speculation. As it pertains to numbers and their significance (Biblical or otherwise), numerology is numerology. The only thing I’m counting lately is, all things but loss except for Him. You too, I’ll bet. And, when the time comes, if He gives me the understanding, I’ll calculate the other number …
-Rudi
 
Thanks Deannie for all those links on the "new international financial order" and the videos. Something’s stirring in the minds of men all-right. Between all the eye-opening ACORN, Cloward-Piven strategy info & videos that’s come from Susanna, and Dorothy recently, lyrics & links from Dawn & our anonymous commenter’s, plus Doug & Jolo0.sa insights, I’ll never get my yardwork finished. Thanks everybody. -Rudi
 
hk-91- Wonder what Ronald Reagan would have to say about all this.
Probably something like,
"Don't make me come down there!"
(I saw it on a T-shirt) :~) -Rudi
 
Susanna,

Did you see this:

"Further, according to House Oversight Committee staff, Emanuel has received assurances from Pelosi that she will not allow what he termed a "witch hunt" to take place during the next Congressional session over the role Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac played in the economic crisis.

Emanuel apparently is concerned the roles former Clinton Administration members may have played in the mortgage industry collapse could be politically -- or worse, if the Department of Justice had its way, legally -- treacherous for many."

From an American Spectator article:

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13967

I hope the FBI has more pull, though all bets are off in an Obama Administration.

Deannie
 
Susanna,

I went to grad school in Boston in the early 90s. I had a friend from Switzerland. One day as we walked in downtown Boston, I remarked about the litter and grafitti. I said people on welfare should be made to clean the streets for their checks. My friend was horrified and said that was slavery. I said, No they were being paid for the work. He said it would be degrading and immoral to make them work for it. I asked if when we graduated that would be degrading and immoral for him to work for pay. The pay differential meant that was a different case entirely. We never agreed and have since lost touch. I'm sure he is now a wonderful socialist bureaucrat.

Deannie
 
Constance,
You are in my prayers. God be with you and strengthen you. He has given you such a wonderful gift and you have been faithful to share it with others.
I can already hear Him say,"Well done thou good and faithful servant, thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: ENTER THOU INTO THE JOY OF THE LORD. Matthew 25:21.

I find great comfort in Psalm 2 ; 3 ; 37 ; 91, Isaiah 51
This is homework for all of us.

God bless each one of you and lets all say a prayer for Constance today. Keep your eyes on the LORD, Run to Him for strength, peace and power. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. He is a rewarder of those that diligently seek Him.

www.biblegateway.com
Online Bible

For Such A Time As This
 
I have a quote that exemplifies the kind of preaching I heard from the “church” Obama went to for twenty years. When a society is propped-up for so long by inflationary measures of socialism, what happens when the prop is removed? Violence! Violence is a “good” excuse for martial law.

“Sorry, but I don’t trust ANY congressperson AT ALL. Where was this piece of filth when the country was pushed into illegal WAR???
Every single one of them belongs in jail for the rest of their pathetic lives, including Ms. Kaptur.
You people are just upset because the chickens are coming home to roost. You didnt do or say anything while brown, foreign people were being murdered and raped by your “heroes.”
I am LAUGHING at Americans. I hope you suffer mightily. It is what you all deserve for being such selfish, greedy, willfully ignorant little a**holes.”

The rule of law has long passed by the wayside, our culture is pervasively without fear of God, and will survive or not by the fear of other forces.

"Each man will seize the hand of another, and they will attack each other. . . wickedness burns as a fire. . ."
 
Deannie,

Thanks for drawing my attention to that paragraph in the American Spectator article.

Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and John McCain are among those who claim to have tried in vain to rein in
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

If the FBI does its job, U.S. Rep. Barney Frank from Massachusetts who is head of the House Financial Services Committee may have a lot of "splainin" to do - especially if his ex (gay) "spouse," former Fannie Mae executive Herb Moses is tied to any and/or all of the corruption that may have occurred there. The following article is instructive:
______________________________

MEDIA MUM ON BARNEY FRANK'S FANNIE MAE LOVE CONNECTION

Democratic House Financial Services Committee Chair promoted GSEs while former 'spouse' was Fannie Mae executive.

By Jeff Poor
Business & Media Institute
9/24/2008

http://tinyurl.com/4qz38e
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The paragraph that especially caught my eye reads:

".....While Moses served at Fannie Mae and was Frank’s partner, Frank was actively working to support GSEs, according to several news outlets.

"In 1991, Frank and former Rep. Joe Kennedy, D-Mass., lobbied for Fannie to soften rules on multi-family home mortgages although those dwellings showed a default rate twice that of single-family homes, according to the Nov. 22, 1991, Boston Globe."
_____________________________

Remember Joe Kennedy? He is the Rep. from Massachusetts who has been criticized for negotiating oil deals with anti-American socialist President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela.


FBI investigation notwithstanding, Fannie and Freddie need to be either heavily regulated or shut down.

As for the welfare situation, I have worked for two large banks here in Massachusetts and regularly worked with welfare investigators whose job it was to expose welfare fraud.

Apart from having additional illegitimate children for the purpose of obtaining an increase in their welfare checks and using the welfare money to finance their drug addictions, there were instances of welfare recipients collecting welfare using one social security number and working at a paying job using another social security number. And that is just the women welfare recipients!

In answer to the question on why women welfare fraudsters are mentioned more frequently than men, the "aid for dependent children" (ADC) checks were usually made out to the mothers of the dependent children - not the fathers.

AID TO DEPENDENT CHILDREN (1935)

http://tinyurl.com/46m5qq

also

http://tinyurl.com/4k7swu
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Men were most likely to abuse the welfare known as "general relief."
Or they would steal "old age assistance" checks from peoples' mailboxes and try to cash them.

The way I would catch the thieves was to memorize the code numbers so that if someone came in with no ID trying to cash what he claimed to be a "general relief" check I would ask him what his date of birth was. If the code number on the check indicated that the check was either an ADC or "old age assistance" check and the person trying to cash said check was a male whose given date of birth indicated that he was NOT a senior citizen, you can be sure that he would be "off to see the wizard" tout de suite.
 
Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this World Net Daily article on Drudge.

Are we talking about a conflict of interest here or am I just being persnickety???
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VP DEBATE MODERATOR IFILL RELEASING PRO-OBAMA BOOK FOCUSES ON BLACKS WHO ARE 'FORGING A BOLD NEW PATH TO POLITICAL POWER'

http://tinyurl.com/538x72
 
Amen Setterman,
Was that a quote from Michelle Obama ?
At any rate your interpretation of it makes good sense.
When you push a Republican too far you get a Communist. When you push a Democrat too far you get a Fascist.
And Ron Paul is a Freemason and probably a Trojan Horse.
But God knows exactly what's going on. His judgments are all righteous and true.

Thank you for your faithfulness Constance. I hope you're feeling better today. Your redemption draweth nigh.
 
Setterman,

"The angel of the LORD encamps around those who fear him, and delivers them."

Psalms 34:7
 
Deannie,

Just thought you might find it interesting to learn that the scary "Dear Leader wannabe" video was pulled from YouTube but apparently someone was able to save it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2094716/posts

or

http://tinyurl.com/4jzlz9
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrfrdptVJEg

or

http://tinyurl.com/3g2ke2
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Dear Leader (Band)... eat your heart out!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dear_Leader_(band)

or

http://tinyurl.com/4jmplu

http://tinyurl.com/4o8gu7
 
THE SOROS SOLUTION

It involves the GOVERNMENT investing in troubled financial organizations.

But not everyone thinks the Soros solution is such a "neat idea."
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"Robert Shapiro, chairman of Sonecon, an economic advisory firm, who served as Commerce Department undersecretary during the Clinton administration, raised questions about Soros’s proposal.

He said that if the government bought stock in troubled firms, a problem would arise regarding how Uncle Sam would be represented as a shareholder.

“How does the government vote the shares?” he asked. “It puts them in a potential conflict of interest. Regulatory interests may hurt the bottom line.”

http://tinyurl.com/4ggvxm

No matter how you cut it, we are talking about nationalization here.

It occuurs to me that the French governement did something similar with regard to the EADS/Airbus companies.

Joint CEO of EADS, Noel Forgeard, who was placed into custody by French police on 28/05/2008 for further questioning over insider trading allegations at the aerospace group just before EADS/Airbus started to tank, was a creature of Jacques Chirac.

We might do well to watch and learn lest our own country be permanently dragged down to the same dead level of economic mediocrity (or worse) as the EU socialist inmates of "workers' paradise."
__________________________

November 16, 2006

AIRBUS BLAMED FOR POOR FRENCH ECONOMIC GROWTH

By Thomas Lifson
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Sorry. Here is the link to


AIRBUS BLAMED FOR POOR FRENCH ECONOMIC GROWTH
http://tinyurl.com/43859s
 
Rudi,
12:55

Thanks for the comment. Like my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, here, I try to post topics that are topical and enlightening (of the only "true" light)!

It's amazing to see how quickly things are progressing,and it almost surreal to think that you and I and all of the others here are living in this time.

Remember how Jesus said to the people of his day that many had longed to be alive to see what they saw (meaning, of course, Him and his ministry)? How could I be accounted worthy of that? Guess God knows more about me than I do, huh?

Here's a little link regarding the future proposed melding of the National Guard into the DoD and/or Homeland Security.

http://tinyurl.com/4qflda

How much more easy it will then be to declare and implement martial law.

P.S. Funny, like minds think alike--I was considering whether to put fall fertilizer on the lawn this week or next! :)
 
I see that my attempt to post the other night worked! Victory! But I had to post as anonymous because that was the only way it would work. Google won't tell me what my username or password is, and I don't have a phone number for Google to ask what they are.

My name is Mariel, incidentally, I am a retired teacher on disability living in the mountains of New Mexico with my wheelchair bound husband.

I met Constance many years ago when she was traveling after Hidden Dangers was published. I thought the New Age was OK then. I learned the hard way that it wasn't. I had no real guidance then, but had to work my way out of it by getting burned.

I have been reading this blog for quite a while.

Mariel
 
Hi jolo0.sa,
Thank you for another interesting link. It gets harder every day to keep abreast of current events. Everytime I think I get a handle on something and have a clearer picture of how it might unfold, there is a new twist. I'm glad we know the end of the story and the One who holds the future. -Rudi

Welcome Mariel!
 
I am attempting to sort out a number of seemingly disparate bits and determine if they are in fact connected.

One of the scriptures from the Revelation of John, refers to " those who were 'beheaded' for the witness of Jesus".

I have found my attention drawn over time to any events which involved beheading.
The much reported beheading of americans captured by various Jihadists of course spring to mind. So too do the reports of death by beheading sentences imposed by Saudi courts.

Recently in the Canadian province of Manitoba, a 'deranged' man savagely attacked a another man, apparently without provocation, on a Greyhound Bus, and stabbed him to death and beheaded him in view of the other passengers. The man has since been reported to be a schizophrenic. There was no warning and no details of the man's perceptual process have been reported.
On Zeph Daniels online radio program, in an interview with "Brother Thomas", reference is made to "demonic Flashing".

In an online magazine called "The Canadian" http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2008/09/29/02631.html
a Dr. John Singh references a 'John Lamb Lash' who among others is so rabidly anti-christian it almost made my head spin, describing the infiltration of earths human population by aliens who while appearing human were not. These aliens were supposedly repsonsible for all the disasters and crisis' occuring.

The picture I'm getting is this. Susceptible persons are being manipulated to believe aliens walk among us. These disguised aliens are wreaking havoc on the earth. They are bad, bad, bad. So too are christians, jews and muslims.

Where am I going with this string of nuttiness?

An episode of the telivision series CSI featured an investigation into an alien abductee movement. a group of these fringe persons, who truly believed their world view and their experiential perceptions, murdered a woman who they believed was an alien, a reptilian, masquerading as a human, (like Lash's Archons), and the method used to kill the alien/human was beheading!!

So here's my thought.

The NAM continues to defame christians, subtley, connecting them (us) to the secret infiltration of alien invaders.
Using advanced mind control techniques, susceptible persons are convinced they can see through the disguise and Beleiving they are doing humanity a service launch a war against all who are identifed as christians, and who, under the indoctrination of this system use the "only effective way to kill the aliens" Beheading

Quoting Dr. Singh, "Notably, the Gnostic specifically referred to Judaism, Christianity and Islams as the "Doctrine of the Aliens", that sought to use organized religion for social control and subjugation."

It would not surprise me to see the real enemies of humanity, turn the tables and point at christians, jews and muslims as being the enemy. We are well along this path already.
Is this coming. I wish I knew

Primegood
 
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