TECHNOCRACY RISING - THE TECHNOCRATIC, NON-DEMOCRATIC ALL CONTROLLING SIDE OF THE NEW AGE - GLOBALIST "NEW WORLD ORDER"?
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| Patrick M. Wood |
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| Front cover and spine of Patrick M. Wood's important new book, TECHNOCRACY RISING. |
In the early 90s the computer and science magazines told us that human interfaces would be coming and that they would be irresistible when they arrived.
Patrick M. Wood, himself a highly skilled and experienced financial planner and analyst has analyzed the machinations of a critical globalist organization, The Trilateral Commission, for many years. He and Anthony Sutton co-authored Trilaterals Over Washington in the 1990s. He has also carefully studied the long time emerging "Technocracy Movement" and its declarations. It has obvious parallels, if not complete collaboration with the various "Smart" and "Green" movements which plan to move us from a money based economy to an energy based economy. I have written several articles on this in the past that are archived both here and on NewswithViews.com.
Patrick Wood graciously sent me a review copy of his important new book. I note that Carl Teichrib, a fellow researcher I deeply respect, aided in Mr. Wood's research. I respect both men and I am pleased that tomorrow morning, 10 a.m. Eastern time, 7 a.m. Pacific time, Mr. Wood will be my internet radio guest on MY PERSPECTIVE at TMERadio.com. You may listen live, join us in the chatroom and/or call in for the two hour program by calling 208-935-0642.
I did not see mention in this book of Social Credit which in my opinion was another and perhaps even earlier phase of this development, but I plan to ask Mr. Wood for his opinion on that as well.
It should be a fascinating two hours. Join us in the morning, tune in and Stay Tuned!
CONSTANCE
514 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 514 Newer› Newest»anon 9:23
"By your 12:55 AM response, Christine, it is very obvious that what I quoted from scripture directly applies to you in the matter that was spoken of, because you have tried to excuse yourself from them, but they still stick. It is those words that make you come out swinging because of the power of them. They are not my words, they are the words of Jesus,"
I come out swinging because the Scripture that refutes you is ignored by you.
Matthew 18:15-17
"If thy brother trespass against you" then after various attempts to get him
to repent and he refuses,
"LET HIM BE UNTO YOU AS A HEATHEN MAN AND A PUBLICAN."
These were people to despise, be wary of, and avoid.
Those words "Let him be unto you as a heathen man and a publican" two
despised categories, ARE THE WORDS OF JESUS.
and you despise His words.
Christine, trying to respond to your incoherent comment of 1143am is like trying to nail blancmange to the wall. Let readers search the scriptures I quoted - to which you responded - and decide for themselves.
Anon@8.40am, you critiqued Christine as follows: "Jesus is indeed coming soon." Says Mary, even if this statement is 100% unBiblical. NO ONE will know the hour. Not one single one of us. However this is what William Blackstone wrote in his book Jesus is Coming, the book that inspired DL Moody. Zionism disarms Christians
No man might have known the hour 2000 years ago but you won't find a scripture saying that no man would ever know the hour as the time came nearer; and if not then why did Jesus give us the signs to watch for? In addition to the signs He gave on the Mt of Olives there is globalisation, a necessary precursor according to the Book of Revelation, and the return of the Jews to the Holy Land, necessary for the fulfilment of the outstanding prophecies about them. Add in Daniel's prophecy that the end would come like a flood and the fact that globalisation was unheard of just 300 years ago, before the Industrial Revolution, and it is obvious that the timescale to His Return is more like decades than centuries; but I wouldn't trust anybody claiming to know the year unless it was not more than 7 years ahead and Israel had signed a hitherto implausible peace treaty together with certain other conditions.
As for Zionism... the promise of the land of Canaan was to Abraham and specifically his descendants through Isaac and Jacob, and was forever (Genesis 17:8-21; 28:13-14; Psalm 105:8-11). When you deal with God, forever means forever. It cannot be reinterpreted spiritually after the crucifixion and it does this have anything to do with whether a Jew has faith in Christ, for Paul said of unbelieving Jews that, as far as the gospel is concerned, "they are enemies on your account, but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable" (Romans 11:28-29).
Zionism is scriptural.
anon 12:43
there is nothing incoherent about it. but you zone out rather than face that it refutes what is dear to your heart.
to make it really simple: as you yourself pointed out, elders and bishops are all
labellable as elders. to this can be added apostles, who called themselves elders.
THEREFORE THE CATEGORY ELDER INCLUDES APOSTLE, YET APOSTLE OUTRANKS THEM ALL.
THEREFORE WITHIN CATEGORY ELDER CAN BE RANKS, AND BISHOP IS NOT EQUIVALENT TO ELDER
NOT A BUNCH OF BISHOPS BUT ONE. IF MULTIPLE BISHOPS ARE REFERENCED ANYWHERE THIS
IMPLIES MORE THAN ONE CONGREGATION IN PLAY, BESIDES WHICH THE EPISTLES WERE MEANT
AS SOME SPECIFY, TO BE READ IN MANY CONGREGATIONS.
THEREFORE all bishops and apostles are elders. but not all elders are bishops or apostles. bishop is a special category of elder and the two offices are discussed together in one letter therefore they are distinct.
TITUS BEING OVER CRETE WAS BY DEFINITION OVER ALL CONGREGATIONS IN CRETE. This is precedent for the patriarch, a bishop over other bishops.
THERE WAS NO CHANGE MADE, SUCH AS YOU THINK. merely played out more of what was
already there, embryonic in some places explicit in Titus' case.
Timothy was to train up worthy men to teach others, this is an "eldership" role
so clearly they were to be at least partly appointed not just selected by a popularity
vote.
"Anon@8.40am, you critiqued Christine as follows: "Jesus is indeed coming soon." Says Mary, even if this statement is 100% unBiblical. NO ONE will know the hour. Not one single one of us. However this is what William Blackstone wrote in his book Jesus is Coming, the book that inspired DL Moody. Zionism disarms Christians
No man might have known the hour 2000 years ago but you won't find a scripture saying that no man would ever know the hour as the time came nearer; and if not then why did Jesus give us the signs to watch for?"
first off, I didn't post what was critiqued. There may be another mary on
board here, but I always post as Christine and never anonymously.
secondly, I agree with the critique.
thirdly, the signs Jesus gave was clearly about "drawing nigh" not right there
in the next 45 minutes or so. And He said day and hour, not week month or year.
The latter can be computed once the antichrist is clearly revealed as such by
his actions. there is no pretribulation rapture. 2 Thess. says Jesus will not
come back until the antichrist is revealed. This was in response to people
worried He had come back and they had missed it, an early secret rapture idea
I suppose?
And what refutes THAT refutes the modern notion that is essentially the same, or
anything that would fit such a model that it is refuted by the statement that Jesus won't come back until the antichrist is revealed.
tribulation is not the wrath of God. This is a core confusion driving a lot of this
pretrib and mid trib rapture stuff. the tribulation is cut short precisely by the
Second Coming, cut short of what was planned by the antichrist, cut short when it
feels to some like it will never end. not allowed to go on forever.
Christine, trying to respond to your incoherent comment of 1.13pam is like trying to nail blancmange to the wall. Let readers search the scriptures I quoted - to which you responded - and decide for themselves.
The pre-trib rapture is conspicuous by its absence from the events Jesus spoke of on the Mt of Olives. I agree with Christine about that.
"Christine, trying to respond to your incoherent comment of 1.13pam is like trying to nail blancmange to the wall. Let readers search the scriptures I quoted - to which you responded - and decide for themselves."
to which I responded with Scripture, and referring to titus and his position IS
citing Scripture even if not "chapter and verse" because you know where to go to
find it.
Titus 1:5 "For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order
the things that are wanting, QAND ORDAIN ELDERS IN EVERY CITY, as I had appointed thee." no indication they were to go totally independent without even a synod of
Crete the bishops and elders meeting to review things and handle complaints.
vss. 6 and 7 move directly to "bishops" so he a bishop over all Crete was to
appoint bishop category elders "in every city," this is the precedent for one
bishop over every city and over all congregations in that city. In those days of
small overall and smaller Christian population that would be one congregation in
a city, but in later times and especially now that would be impossible. you
couldn't fit thousands of people in one building at once.
ephes. 4:11-13 pastors and teachers and evangelists and prophets and apostles given
to us by Jesus Christ "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the
ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
"Till we ALL come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God,
unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:"
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE ANY CONGREGATION FROM THEN TO NOW? therefore no one can claim
competence either as an individual or as a congregation for total self rule.
I Cor. chapter 12 discusses the church as an organism, the body of Christ (His
actual physical personal body being in Heaven at the right hand of the Father, but
his metaphorical body is on earth, the church), which though addressed to one
congregation in that city of Corinth, would apply to all churches as part of one
organism in the world.
T Tim 3 discusses qualifications of bishops and deacons, chapter 5:1 referring to
an elder by context probably just means older men, since he says "rebuke not an elder, but
entreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;" so that is not about
an office.
Since the issue of men desiring the office of bishop is raised, it would look like
many bishops for Ephesus, but what was Ephesus like?
"The wall of Lysimachus has been estimated to enclose an area of 415 hectares (1,030 acres). Not all of this area was inhabited due to public buildings and spaces in the centre and the steep slope of the Bülbül Dağı mountain, which was enclosed by the wall. Jerome Murphy-O'Connor uses an estimate of 345 hectares (850 acres) for the inhabited land. Using an average population density of 400 to 500 per hectare, he calculates that Ephesus would have had a population between 138,000 and 172,500, with a preference for the higher figure.[33] J. W. Hanson estimates the inhabited space to be smaller at 224 hectares (550 acres). He argues that population densities of 150 or 250 people per hectare are more realistic, which gives a range of 33,600 to 56,000 inhabitants." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephesus
(check the sources cited in the article this is how to use Wikipedia or ANY
article, online or in a magazine or book.)
Given that in Paul's time it would not have been all Christian by any means,
he is talking about overseers of each congregation in the overall city, all
treated as one church in the city, comparable to some modern situation where
hypothetically you could have a denomination in San Francisco (a big city) which
original church got too big and had to have daughter churches, but remained part
of the original and each having its own clergy but all of them answerable to the
original church in that city and together with its clergy all part of the hierarchy
of that city.)
so right here, you see the groundwork laid for still connected (and why should
they not be?) separate congregations in one city.
I Peter is addressed to many congregations in many cities 1:1, and 5:1-3 "The elders
which are among you I exhort, WHO AM ALSO AN ELDER [PETER HERE COUNTS HIMSELF,
AN APOSTLE, IN THE CATEGORY OF ELDER],...FEED THE FLOCK OF GOD WHICH IS AMONG
YOU, TAKING THE OVERSIGHT THEREOF,
NOT BY CONTRAINT, BUT WILLINGLY; FOR FOR FILTHY LUCRE, BUT OF A READY MIND;
NEITHER AS BEING LORDS OVER GOD'S HERITAGE, BUT BEING EXSAMPLES TO THE FLOCK."
now here is addressed the issues of someone should not act as a tyrant, even
though he is of superior rank, but be an example to the rest.
Someone studying social order in animals called this sort of thing a low dominance
gradient. A high dominance gradient is exemplified in the kickass style of
baboon and rhesus troops, a low dominance gradient in the milder style of gorilla
societies. Everyone is comfortable around the silverback older male leader and
often all nap together.
3 John addresses one Gaius who apparently has been evangelizing with a group, but
then goes on vss. 9-10 "I wrote unto the church but Diotrephes, who loveth to have
the preeminence among them, receivethe us not.
"Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds, prating against us with malicious words;
and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them
that would, and casteth them out of the church."
Apparently Diotrephes didn't like that Gaius was converting people and establishing
congregations, and here John is going to exert his Apostolic authority to correct
Diotrephes, perhaps depose or defrock him.
now, consider. would God establish a situation that had no recourse in the case
of such injustice as Diotrephes exhibited? certainly just leaving Diotrephes and
going into schism would be a solution.
But is that desirable if not the last resort? What you propose leaves NO ROOM
FOR CORRECTION OF A PROBLEM IN A CONGREGATION EXCEPT SCHISM, when population and
geography do not dictate what is effectively schism, but done in peace with the
blessing of the parent congregation.
How can a situation like Diotrephes made, or worse, not develop later (it did and
does) after the Apostles were all dead? would they leave things without recourse
to an authority higher than the local congregation's leaders, or its own laity to
vote them out and replace them if they themselves were corrupted or the majority
of them were so such vote would not occur or end badly?
Historically the churches' leaders met in synod (Greek word for official meeting)
to review matters in the separate churches and to ordain and consecrate any new
leader appointed by them or chosen by vote. This was evident going on before
Nicea so had nothing to do with (the nonexistent overhaul of church practice and
doctrine allegedy done by) Constantine.
excursus on gorillas vs. baboons -this is not about evolution and
who are our alleged closest relatives (some fudging on the data
and definitions of what is the same gene by the way on the chimp
closeness to human)
this is simply comparing how different societies work, we already
know both forms of leadership exist in human societies, and
explaining the use of the term low dominance gradient, attempting
to apply it to the idea government of the church.
http://russia-insider.com/en/ukrainian-hacktivists-release-alleged-correspondence-between-poroshenko-and-soros/ri7624
If soros backs Kiev that should tell you something.
Living reality is not what Jeremiah said and who interpreted his words or how soon End Times is coming about or whatever blah blah is spun off the carousel of ideas running around in the heads of various individuals. The only ones who that involves are amateur interpreters of what is in the Bible. They should find appropriate websites. The Bible is right but so few take the words as they are. Skip the vague connections we are supposed to focus on. Reality is the history of the changes taking place around us that will affect us and our offspring. We have to face and help or abort New Age movements we see happening. The cotton candy world of ideas can keep everyone busy until all is lost. If you can contribute specifics about what is happening, please do. Don't be diverted or discouraged by lack of response.
Christine, even if you blow away every opponent with your biblical ideas, will it make a difference? Will it stop the growth of the New Age movement in any way? Look at the long term goals you want to see come about, though I'll admit I don't know what they personally are in your case. Whether they are in line with the stated goals of the site I don't know. All I read here might be described you personally vs others who have no interest in exposing what the New Age movement is doing. The result is time and space wasted.
what the new age movement religiously is doing is infiltrating churches
through the religiously indifferentist type of ecumenism that goes beyond
Christianity of any kind in inclusiveness, and the kind of ecumenism that
argues that the visible church must be one visible whole and doesn't
exist but must be built;
and through the charismatic movement and related emerging church (willing
to experiment with anything whose very name implies the second category
of undesirable ecumenism) and the mediative states of mind.
politically it is trying to have a unipolar world, which is being challenged
by Russia and China. economically it is doing the usual through the IMF
which also fuels eugenics purposes, since it demands austerity which means
likely death of many who are either physically weak or ill, or just "weak"
in that they and their ancestors to pass inheritance of wealth to them did
not have the money to finance themselves unaided (but the wealthy often do
have all kinds of subsidies for their businesses can you spell hypocrisy?)
the religious side is split between the ones who want to channel ascended
masters and serve them to create a synarchy kind of govt., which is rule
by "divinely" inspired leaders of an elite sort over everyone else; the
nationalists who want to use the occult to further their agendas, whether
monarchist with an RC or Orhtodox veneer, or democratic version; the
individualists who only want occult power and meditation to advance their
personal agendas; and the Agenda 21 crew who try to co opt tree huggers
but are technocratic related and want everyone caged in little apartments
and kept off the land with agribusiness factory farms providing food; and
the back to the land sorts who don't like the Agenda 21 effect of ending
small farming but in some cases don't realize that is part of the game.
These latter categories slop from religious to political.
the New Age Movement is the religious arm of the New World Order, there
being competing versions of the latter, and the NEw World Order is the
political arm of the New Age Movement. or you could say they are two
sides of the same coin. mysticism and "oneness" and so forth are promoted
to set the stage for political playing out of this, making people feel it
is an appropriate next step, and normal versions of religions that might
work contrary to this (though not all do) are suppressed or they try to do
so to counter their divisive effect. However a hidden agenda is to eliminate
Christianity and Judaism altogether.
Current situation is try to provoke WW 3 in Ukraine, because banksters and
suchlike profit off disasters. an economic crash here or anywhere means
valuable land and resources can be bought for pennies on the dollar.
I am sure they are up to something in Africa and the Middle East aside from
the obvious in the latter, I just don't keep that close track. All color
revolutions put radical islam or lately neo Nazi elements in Europe in charge,
which of course are both hazardous to anything but nominal Christianity.
the Trans Pacific Partnership is being pushed to maximize profits and minimize
interference from those, whether new age biased or not, who make legitimate
complaints about pollution and human rights violation, because enforcement of
existing laws about this could lead to lawsuits.
spirits or some kind of astral robot incl. a field of influence infect
Christians rendering them passive or frozen in their development if they
won't go whole hog heretic.
anon 3:50
if biblical issues don't get hashed out now and then and errors
corrected, the new age can exploit errors, or misapply truths.
why don't you supply some update on what NA and NWO are doing in
a better way than the overview I just gave?
I ask some of you to take a look at this with an open mind.
There doesn't seem to be anyone paying attention to Sarkozy since he lost the election in 2012.
I have never taken my eye off him because I was sure he would return. Although he is not a shoe in to win back the French Presidency in 2017, he sure is gaining more strength as this approaches. Do you know how rare it would be for him to run again and win in a major developed country? It's like Bill Clinton running again and winning? That would be extremely rare!!
If he wins in 2017, could this be the recovery from "the fatal wound" possibly referring to his political career?
A few very interesting facts concerning Mr. Sarkozy:
His full name is Nicolas Paul Stephane Sarkozy de Nagy-Bocsa.
The French meaning of the name Nicolas is "Victorious: Conqueror of the People."
The meaning of Paul is "Little"--a possible reference to the prophecy of the "little horn".
The meaning of Stephane is "Crown or Garland"--note the rider on the white horse in Revelation is given a crown.
The meaning of the name Sarkozy is "prince of darkness (or tribulation)."
To better explain the last name, the surname Sarkozy refers to someone from Sarkoz, which is a region of Hungary. According to various linguistic theories , the Hungarians inherited their non-Indo-European language from the Turks and/or Sumerians, which in turn may indicate that the name Sarkozy can trace its ultimate origin to ancient Assyria. In Assyria, "sar" means "prince" and "kusi" refers to inhabitants of Kush (Ethiopia/Sudan), also meaning "dark."
The meaning of Nagy is "Big or Great." I have not yet found a meaning for Bocsa, but I have found references to this surname in records from Transylvania.
The French President also carries the title of Co- "PRINCE" of Andorra.
He is of Sephardic Jewish descent on his mother's side from Greece. Many Sephardics settled long ago in areas of the Ottoman Empire as well as others, also including Assyria. There's that "ASSYRIAN" reference again.
There are many other interesting facts about the man, not least that his first real foray into public service after becoming a city counselour, was a victory as mayor after the incumbent mayor Achille Peretti conveniently died before the election.
You still don't see the big picture, Christine. You missed Jesus answer to Peter about how much forgiving we should be doing when He spoke that parable. You are wrong entirely in this, missing Jesus' point by miles! Jesus loved and forgave the heathen and the publican. He loves you and me doesn't He? For God so loved the world...Are we any better? He loved and forgave them but simply walked away from those who turned down his offer. That is still the freewill choice on the table that Christ offers until death comes and the time is up. Since there are those who do not want forgiven then they will get to stay that way forever, and go were the unforgiven/unrepentant belong-the wage sins pays-eternal death in hell. That part is on them. God does not love to see the wicked perish. Ezekiel 18:23.....He did everything to keep us out of there! Look at what this cost the sinless Son of God! God does not send people to hell----they decide against the Holy Spirit's appeal to the escape by way of the cross of Jesus and send themselves there instead. Like Jesus we should choose to forgive since He forgave us and proof that we are truly His. But your response explains why you have blown by the cross in past posts. The issue of forgiveness comes up at that sacred spot. And your anger at the question is saying you need to address it since, as of right now, you choose bondage to the chains of the guilty past(and present). Hers and yours too...
So whatever.
Your decision is yours and effects no one else of course, but is brought up only because right up to the present, your hypocrisy in all things biblical, is blasted all over this blog.
I missed the point did I? READ THE WORDS IN CONTEXT.
Matt 18: verses 28-30 sshow that the fellow servant
BEGGED FOR FORGIVENESS FOR THE DEBT but did not
receive forgiveness from the one already forgiven for
his debt.
and most of these trespasses people take to heart and
get all bent out of shape about are really not worth
being concerned about in the first place.
Luke 17 gets more specific, vss 3, 4
"if thy brother trepass against thee, rebuke him;
AND IF HE REPENT, forgive him.
"And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day,
AND SEVEN TIMES IN A DAY TURN AGAIN TO THEE, SAYING,
I REPENT: thou shalt forgive him."
exactly how does what I have described fit all this?
an how about not following others in evil but exposing
such, all the evil she pulled on other people often
able to do so only because they put up with her because
they loved me?
You have my prayers, Christine. I hope you will leave everything at the foot of the cross and walk away free of bondage and clean of heart, mind and spirit and finally be at peace.
Jesus loves you. He really does.
1:06
Revelation 2:9King James Version (KJV)
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
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Yeah, whatever keep talking.
anon 6:30
http://www.iamthewitness.com/listeners/Just.What.Is.The.Synagogue.of.Satan.htm
though this article is quirky in its stated bias, it has some interesting
info on the use of the word synagogue for their meeting places by
Samaritans AND BY GNOSTICS incl. Marcionites. also those engaged in
active persecution of Christians (which Jews did at the time) would
fit the description, as distinct from those just ignoring us.
That was way back in the first century AD. or first year or so of the
second century AD. So don't drag the Khazars into this, they hadn't
been involved n Judaism until the 10th century AD
searching Irenaeus pdf with the "find" program and I find no
reference to gnostics using the word "synagogue." So this
writer apparently can't read straight. The primary bias of the
article is to attack the RC and church in general as way astray
as soon as the Apostles died.
whatever. Revelation's letters to the seven churches were all
to churches in Anatolia (now Turkey) and the answer to the
mystery lies in the history of Jews and proselytes in Anatolia.
It might well be that there were some synagogues there, that
were syncretistic and paganized, which would have a double drive
to attack Christians - Jewish hostility against us as converts
from them who they wanted back, converters of theirs to us, and
competition in missions for the heathen (Jews only became non
missionary after Christian governments forced them to do so.
The present stance they are non proselytizing is a result of
history forced on them, and the idea they never were is false.)
and the second driver would be the spirits of the pagan syncretism
they had accepted to some extent, assuming this theory is correct.
digging around, I think this synagogue of satan remark
referred to ebionites, semi Christians who often denied
Jesus' divinity, and kept the Jewish laws. IT is highly
likely such would style their meeting places synagogues.
and that they would partner with Jews in opposing
Christians. Apparently they often held gnostic beliefs.
And that they would claim to be Jews, yet would consist
of people who had no Jewish background mostly, denied
in many cases that YHWH made the physical world, accepted
Jesus as Messiah but denied His divinity, and had not
undergone Jewish conversion.
When Jesus addressed Jews who were contrary in spiritual
nature to Abraham, He acknowledged they were physically
Abraham's seed, but then went on to address their spiritual
condition, often quoted without noting the first point,
which was the condition of one descended instead from satan.
The heavy use of metaphor in the less than concrete Hebrew
and Aramaic languages is ignored by such interpreters. as
is context.
Paul speaks of spiritual ISrael the church vs. Israel after
the flesh alone, unbelieving Jews. Though he says the latter
are not true Israel he doesn't hesitate to call them Jews
or ISrael. I suspect something more like a counterfeit
Judaism like the ebionites with Essene connections was what
was being addressed in Revelation.
But you really don't know do you, Christine?
Wisdom would say you really have nothing to say about this, so don't.
Well, it is for sure that you won't ever be accused of being wise.
God knows who is who and is none of your business actually.
What He says and does not say about a subject should probably just be left at that.
But of course you have to tell even God what is what.
He is very long-suffering with you, waiting for you to humble yourself.
11:32
humble yourself you arrogant pretender at defending God.
God has said something about a subject, and it had meaning
to those who heard it back then. What that meaning was is
unclear now. This is merely the start of trying to sort it
out.
An educated guess, based on Jesus' words in John to some
Jews who opposed Him, and who were arrogant enough to claim
they had never been in servitude when they were certainly so
in Egypt and then currently existed as a tribute paying state
not an independent state, ruled by a man who was not even an
Israelite (Herod and his son later) that this was probably
about spiritual not literal physical issues.
However it is odd phrasing incl. that part about making them
bow down to one of these two churches and know that Jesus
has loved that church. I expect sooner or later there will
turn up some evidence of a persecution attempt by Jews of
that city, that went strikingly wrong.
And it has no relevance to what is the situation today
regarding Israel.
Why don't you try reading ALL the Bible STRAIGHT THROUGH
or at least read AN ENTIRE GOSPEL in one day, and ANOTHER
ENTIRE GOSPEL IN ONE DAY.
Why don't you try some honesty for a change, instead of
lying about what people say, or even lying about what
JEsus said?
This is my final rebuke to you. I will have nothing more
to do with you, though it may be I will accidentally
be answering something you say IF I DON'T RECOGNIZE
YOUR CRAP BY STYLE OR CONTENT incl. the phony "loving"
tone, because you post anonymously.
Titus 3:10, 11 "a man that is a heretick after the first and
second admonition REJECT;
"KNOWING THAT HE THAT IS SUCH IS SUVVERTED, AND SINNETH,
BEING CONDEMNED OF HIMSELF"
AND
2 pETER 3:16B "WHICH THEY THAT ARE UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE
WREST [WRENCH, TWIST] AS THEY DO ALSO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES"
refers to points of doctrine and Paul's letters, but the
point is TWISTING SCRIPTURE and are unlearned and UNSTABLE.
and that I have rebuked you several times with Scripture
YET YOU DESPISE THE WORDS OF JESUS CHRIST.
and I am supposedly unbiblical on everything? no, I am
not. And since you who twist the words of JEsus Christ
and then claim that I ignore His words but you DESPISE
HIS WORDS when repeated to you over and over, you
tell me I am unbiblical on everything? that tells me
I am probably totally biblical on everything!
don't bother speaking to me again. I rebuke you in
JEsus' Name and I am not speaking to you anymore
unless you repent.
My, my somebody's defensive.....
It's that gorilla again.
I'm sure you've heard the saying, "fools rush in where angels fear to tread".
And one more thing..
You won't be accused of being loving, so who are you to talk?
The first and greatest commandment and then the second is like unto it is what Christine? (ever hear of this?)
If you really feared God you would have much more reverence for Him and His word and handle it carefully instead of just as mind candy.
And you would treat others without the rude blasts to speak your mind and be a good neighbor to this blog (and withdraw your foot from being at your neighbors door so often like the proverbs advise but instead you are beating your neighbor's door down to make them listen to you).
Constance feels pity for you and lets you keep posting (incessantly)so
you use her blog as your own aggrandizing pulpit--but really you should stick to just preaching to yourself.
And really Jesus still loves you and is waiting to forgive you :) Only He knows how long you've got so don't put Him off.
Can someone direct me to information about the New Age movement? It was suggested I check this place out. I don't want to interfere with whatever you are discussing, but I am looking for information on New Age.
If you want to learn about New Age, watch Pope Francis, and his pal Barack. They are the two biggest!
4:35 AM just start your own blog.
Christine has this one in her clutches.
Her gnostic takeover is complete.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Age
http://www.victorious.org/newage.htm
https://www.facebook.com/groups/hiddendangersoftherainbow/
this has pdfs of Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow and
A Planned Deception by Constance Cumbey.
the best place to learn about the NAM is the posts Constance
does on the front page of her blog. There is quite a bit of
disagreement as to what it is in the comments section, itself
the result of the many faceted quality of the NAM which makes
some think it is only one thing or only another thing so
fights break out and accusations fly.
http://fightthenewage.blogspot.com
The New Age Movement is just the spititual side of the New World Order. Lucis Trust and their world servers are main director. The UN Development program or Agenda 21 is the active program making it happen, Chap 36 in the education plan. The UN Broadband started going in during Obama's administration. This big Internet 2 pipe sucks up all data, healthcare records, educational records, every comment here and stores this info on Amazon and Google servers via your state university. The Catholic Church is all in as are pretty much every single church, especially Zionist churches. It is already here. Welcome to the New Age.
That's what I think, but knowing isn't the same as thinking. I am sure we are technically not allowed to know and thinking has been severly restricted and regulated.
http://www.reflectionsfromthewall.net/ this includes a section
on how the writer came out of charismaticism, incl. some scary
stuff.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmXP33E4M8
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trance
One more thing, channeling demons is now cool jnstead of horrifying and this is probably what they are really doing in the UN meditation room and probably where they get their plans. But I don't know I wasn't there.
Trance in its modern meaning comes from an earlier meaning of "a dazed, half-conscious or insensible condition or state of fear", via the Old French transe"fear of evil", from the Latin transīre "to cross", "pass over". This definition is now obsolete.[1]
perhaps when the meaning first was developed they had enough
sense to be afraid of "dazed, half-conscious or insensible"
states instead of seeking them out.
I'm in agreement with Christine's 4:13 post about deviances.
Constance
Correction, that was the 4:13 post by Christina re deviances.
Constance
"humble yourself you arrogant pretender at defending God."
News flash!
God does not need defending.
However, you do need to tell the truth to yourself, Christine, and privately get to the root problem of why you insist upon misrepresenting Who he is and misapplying what he said to excuse your own behavior. And while doing so, you do not humbly pose questions, you arrogantly make flat nonsense statements. With your attitude, even when you happen to be right, you are wrong by virtue of your blasting, nasty tone.
In fact, think on this one Christine, in all the "teaching" "advising" and "refutation of error" you "need" to do to educate the "spiritual idiots" you think we are, think on this....God does need explaining either. God wrote a book and we can read and by faith ask wisdom of the Source, who is God, not you. (there's another news flash for ya ;) )
You are one who darkens counsel by words without knowledge (Job 38:1-3) as God himself said of Job's friends (some friends)... They created hardship where it never should have been in all their "explaining" and self-righteous "advising" and misspoke about the Lord .
A lousy neighbor and "Job's friend" to this blog to keep the message meant to go from here from advancing by muddying the waters (while you fight God and good reason to boot).
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky
Okay, but HE said he was and always did. He did dedicate his book to Lucifer, one can't do that and not mean it. I have a copy. I believe in curses. He worked at the Chicago diocese for about 20 years. (a pretty cursed place when you add up the priests who molested kids from there and who went out to spread liberation theology). Alinsky was finally expelled and shortly there after Notra Dame took him in. I am not going to tell you how to think Constance and I am happy to disagree. He was studied hard and he was devoute enough that his parents thoughg he should be a Rabbi. I am not wrong each and every single time.
"Saul David Alinsky was born in Chicago, Illinois in 1909 to Russian Jewish immigrant parents, the only surviving son of Benjamin Alinsky's marriage to his second wife, Sarah Tannenbaum Alinsky.[6] Alinsky stated during an interview that his parents never became involved in the "new socialist movement." He added that they were "strict Orthodox, their whole life revolved around work and synagogue ... I remember as a kid being told how important it was to study."[4]
Because of his strict Jewish upbringing, he was asked whether he ever encountered antisemitism while growing up in Chicago. He replied, "it was so pervasive you didn't really even think about it; you just accepted it as a fact of life."[4] He considered himself to be a devout Jew until the age of 12, after which time he began to fear that his parents would force him to become a rabbi.
I went through some pretty rapid withdrawal symptoms and kicked the habit ... But I'll tell you one thing about religious identity...Whenever anyone asks me my religion, I always say—and always will say—Jewish.[4]"
Think what you will but I can easily find videos of Jews who still blame the Catholic church for the holocaust.
Yeah, not really kicking a habit at all really, except enough to get out of being a Rabbi.
anon 7:34
notice doesn't say that he always says, "ORTHODOX jewish" but that
he says he always says, just, "Jewish." There's a big difference.
and there is no particular problems attached to being a rabbi, like
with a priest. There might be some restriction on sex during High
Holy Days, maybe, I don't know. But there is no requirement you not
marry after becoming a rabbi as far as I know, and no requirement
you not be married, and a rabbi having an income and status seems
something useful in worldly terms. So why did he want to avoid this?
My guess is because he was already an unbeliever at heart. And
identifying with his people while being secular and agnostic would
get him kicked out by super Orthodox at least. Who don't recognize
reform as legitimate Jews.
So he kicked the habit of having any Jewish belief it looks like. If
it weren't for the gentile world and recent persecutors categorizing
all Jews as Jews he wouldn't even be counted as a Jew.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=481bgi5Du0s
He always identified himself as a religious Jew, period. As an admirer of Lucifer that could easily make him an occultist...as you say...and I certainly don't trust Alinsky to tell me he quit Kaballah anymore than I trust the new nsa bill. If Snoball was anything other than a fake whistleblower, he would be dead.
almost no Jew realizes the core problems of the kaballah, and
it is something no one is allowed to study until after they have
finished Torah studies and are at least 35 years old. Obviously
it is considered potentially destabilizing.
I doubt he was religious enough to study it, he picked up his
demon crap somewhere outside of that context. At the age he bolted
he would never have had access to kaballah except in non Jewish
sources. The most the average Jew gets of it is some vague things
easilsy assimilable to good works and so forth.
Why don't you read THIS IS MY GOD by Adam Wouk to get a more
accurate picture? meanwhile, because of blood and religion getting
linked, being linked from Abraham on down to now, it is very easy
for an apostate Jew to count himself as Jewish as long as he
doesn't convert to islam or Christianity.
a video
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dfVkWf-wfOQ
-One prominent Orthodox Jew, when introducing a speaker on the subject of Jewish mysticism, said basically, "it's nonsense, but it's Jewish nonsense, and the study of anything Jewish, even nonsense, is worthwhile."
( really?? why study evil?)
quote found here:
http://www.jewfaq.org/m/kabbalah.htm
Oh they play games and sematic deception is all part of the game. There is a sucker born every minute, I am no longer one of them is this area. However it did take my Jewish Marxist Grandmum and actually working with the bad guys for a few years before I could stomach the truth. Otherwise even I would believe you Mary Christine Erickson near Stanford U.
"I doubt he was religious enough to study it, he picked up his
demon crap somewhere outside of that context"
He probably picked it up at the same place you did, Christine.
https://www.questia.com/magazine/1P3-1557935251/information-age-populism
called a Jewish Activist above.
http://www.judeareform.org/tikkun-olam/links
"As a descendant & franchise of Saul Alinsky's IAF network, CAN first sets an agenda through cooperative sessions, then accumulates power through its members' relationships. Targeted institutions include all categories of local government and business (including non-profits)."
not considered Jewish huh?....okay sure.
as I said, except for surrounding curcumstances. Jewishness
being both religious and ethnic, you get the effect of a
non religious Jew or the religious saying "its our nonsense
so it should be studied" or words to that effect. Only under
persecution are you going to find Jews and gentiles agreed
on what is a Jew. Otherwise you got assimilated Jews being
considered not Jewish by Orthodox Jews. Adam Wouk describes
some who converted to Reform Judaism being repudiated by
their families, the death funeral ceremony read over them
in absentia, and them counted as dead and not to be spoken
of and never allow them around you. That was a long time ago.
http://fightthenewage.blogspot.com/2013/11/kabbalah-is-it-really-legitimate-for.html
Kabbalah - is it really legitimate for Jews? Not according to many Jewish scholars past and present
Now let's look at Kabbalah, and from JEWISH SOURCES WHO DON'T LIKE IT.
I collected these from online in various places.
this is a list of famous rabbis who rejected either all or classical parts
of Kabbalah
http://sagavyah.tripod.com/id77.html
Rabbi Saadiah Gaon wrote in his book Emunot v'Deot that Jews who believe in reincarnation have accepted a non-Jewish belief.
Maimonides (12th Century) discounted the mystical work Shiur Komah, with its starkly anthropomorphic vision of G-d, which is a popular kabbalistic text even in modern times.
Abraham ibn Daud, around 1110 to 1180; rejected reincarnation.
Rabbi Avraham ben haRambam, like his predecessors, writes at length in his book Milhhamot HaShem that the Almighty is in no way literally within time or space nor physically outside time or space, since time and space simply do not apply to His Being whatsoever. His book is almost undeniably targeted at the forbearers of much of kabbalistic thought.
Leon de Modena rejected reincarnation.
Rabbi Nissim ben Reuven (The Ran), 1320-1380; reproved the Nachmonides (Ramban) for devoting too much to kabbalah and is said to have been "no friend of mysticism."
Yedayah Bedershi, early 14th century; rejected reincarnation.
Rabbi Yitzchak ben Sheshet Perfet (The Rivash), 1326-1408; he stated that Kabbalah was "worse than Christianity", as it made God into 10, not just into three.
[Ed. note as a Christian I would have to say that this conversion to 10
is pretty bad, and a logical outgrowth of the Filioque as St. Photius The Great pointed out it could lead to polytheism.
Of course, the Jewish writer does not understand that the Three we worship are still ONE and misses certain
hints in the Torah and Prophets such as Isaiah 48:16.]
Hasdai ben Abraham Crescas, 1340-1410/11; rejected reincarnation.
Joseph Albo, 15th century; rejected reincarnation.
Rabbi Leon Modena, a 17th century Venetian critic of Kabbalah, wrote that if we were to accept the Kabbalah, then the Christian trinity would indeed be compatible with Judaism, as the Trinity closely resembles the Kabbalistic doctrine of sefirot.
[Ed. note this SUPERFICIAL similarity is probably why some Christians in the late Middle Ages/Renaissance took
a liking to Kabbalah. However, the similarity is very superficial and by no means exact. It is more of a parallel to
pagan pantheons of "gods" begetting "gods" which was then countered by those philosophers who were uncomfortable
with the bad behavior of the "gods" to allegorize it all, and these philosophers sensing there must be a primordial
uncaused cause, First or Prime Mover, etc. tried to reduce them all to being manifestations of one God, some of
these became Christians. One God Who subsists as Three Persons is still monotheism, but a Mystery that is
beyond easy comprehension. And it makes sense that the Creator of the only partly comprehensible universe
would be Himself beyond comprehension.]
Rabbi Yaakov Emden, 1697-1776, wrote the book Mitpahhath Sfarim (Scarf / Veil of the Books) which is a detailed critique of the Zohar. He concludes that certain parts of the Zohar contain heretical teaching and therefore could not have been written by Rabbi Shimon ben Yochai. Opponents of the book claim that he wrote the book in a drunken stupor.
Rabbi Samuel Strashun, 1794-1872, in Bava Metzia 107a, in his famous commentary to the Talmud, R' Strashun (the "Rashash" of Europe) points out a Talmudic proof against gilgulim. A rebbi in Kol Torah put out a book called 'dvar yakov' on tractate bava metzia. In commenting on this particular statement by the Rashah, the author of the book is goes off on how the Rashash could contradict "kabbalistic masters."
Rabbi Shimshon Raphael Hirsch, 1808-1888, among other things, specified that belief in reincarnation is one of the major distinctions between what were the religious opinions (hashqafa) of the Ancient Egyptions in contrast to the religious perspective (hashqafa) of the Jewish Faith. He writes that reincarnation was central to the Egyptian Faith.
Rabbi Yihhyah Qafehh, an early 20th century Yemenite Jewish leader wrote a book called Milhhamoth HaShem, (Wars of the L-RD) against what he perceived as the false teachings of the Zohar and "Lurianic Kabbalah."
Nechama Leibowitz, 1905-1997; renown modern scholar and commentator to the Tanakh - avoided making use of kabbalistic works in her commentaries.
Yeshayahu Leibowitz 1903-1994, the brother of Nechama Leibowitz; he publically shared and supported views expressed in Rabbi Yihhyah Qafehh's book Milhhamoth HaShem that much of popular 'kabbala' is idolatrious; was against allowing kabbalistic texts to influence halakhic practice.
Rabbi Yosef Kapach taught against allowing kabbalistic texts to influence halakhic practice.
Rabbi Jose Faur
the collector of this list says,
"Kabbalah means "reception" or "that which was received." This term was used in reference to the full body of Jewish Law, including Tanakh (Hebrew Bible / O. T) and the Talmudic texts which the Jewish people had inherited (received) from their ancient ancestors. The general meaning of the term remained unchanged until the late Middle Ages. Beginning with the supposed "revelation" of the Zohar in the 1300's (which, by the way, means that it was not part of what the Jews as a people had inherited (ie: received [Kabbalah]) from their ancestors up unto that time), the term Kabbalah slowly began to be applied to mystical teachings as promoted by certain rabbis....While there is no doubt that there is a true esoteric aspect to Torah learning -- referred to in Talmudic literature as Ma'aseh Merquva and Ma'aseh B'resheyth -- yet that which today is known as Kabbalah is neither learned nor taught according to the codified Talmudic laws (halakha) concerning how valid esoteric teachings are to be conveyed (see Hilkhoth Yesodei Torah); Nor does the modern idea of Kabbalah match the historical use of the term. Historical Kabbalah referred to publically known and publically taught Torah teaching which had been passed down generation after generation from the time of the Sanhedrin in accordance with the laws by which these teachings were to be conveyed -- and all without secretes and without unrectifiable contradictions. No concept of the modern Kabbalah (Zohar, etc...) was written about or referred to by any known Jewish leaders until the around the 1300's when this supposed pillar of Judaism was suddenly revealed to the world, without the authority of the Sanhedrin, needless to say. After the revelation of the modern Kabbalah, many innovations began to "revitalize" the Jewish religion and enlighten the masses to the "true" and "deeper" meanings of the commandments and halakhot (rabbinic laws). "
Other Jewish writers:
http://jewamongyou.wordpress.com/2012/05/17/why-are-jews-leftists-the-kabbalah/
"Long-time readers of this blog are probably already aware that I do not hold so-called Jewish mysticism,
AKA the “Kabbalah” in high regard. While living in Israel, I spent a lot of time and effort researching the origins
of this malignant tumor upon Judaism. The more I researched, the more clear it became that most of the
Kabbalah is based on forgeries, baseless fanciful thinking and thinly veiled ideas borrowed from ...various
ancient pagan religions.... One of the pivotal beliefs of the Kabbalah is that humans can affect the higher
spiritual realms through our actions, and even through the words we speak – such as in prayer. "
[NOTE THE FOLLOWING:]
"According to the Kabbalah, a prayer is not simply a creature speaking to his creator. Rather, it is a creature acting as an engineer and manipulating the various relationships between the various lofty spheres (called “sephiroth”).
The belief in an ability to bring about change in remote entities, through seemingly minor actions (before the invention of remote control, mind you), is not unusual in primitive religions. In fact, the first such religion that pops into the minds of many people is Voodoo.....
It never occurred to me, years ago when I rejected the Kabbalah, that this same type of critical thinking would some day lead me to reject Leftism....
"It’s ironic that the most conservative Jews, traditional religious ones, are now the most fervent believers in the Kabbalah. They cling to it because they consider it an integral part of Judaism – and Judaism defines their identity. Yet the remnant of authentic Judaism, which they still keep to some extent, protects their minds from the poisonous brew of the Kabbalah. At least to a certain degree....
It’s not difficult to reveal the true origins of Kabbalistic works such as the Zohar. They are blatant forgeries. What is difficult is to wean people of the defective thought processes that came along with it."
http://www.jewfaq.org/kabbalah.htm
"Other traditional Jews take mysticism with a grain of salt. One prominent Orthodox Jew, when introducing a speaker on the subject of Jewish mysticism, said basically, "it's nonsense, but it's Jewish nonsense, and the study of anything Jewish, even nonsense, is worthwhile.""
The following tidbits show that a tension has existed in Judaism
regarding Kabbalah. So those Jews here who are into it too much,
might want to rethink this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misnagdim interesting history of the fight between Hassidic
and non Hassidic Jews.
http://torahmusings.com/2013/07/is-kabbalah-heresy/
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/beliefs/Theology/Afterlife_and_Messiah/Life_After_Death/Reincarnation.shtml
refers to a 9th century famous Jewish Rabbi who scorned reincarnation.
http://torahmusings.com/2012/08/halakhah-kabbalah-and-history/
discusses the lower status of Kabbalah than Torah and Talmud. (however, when you
argue things based on a based on b based on c and build a house of cards,
you can end up arguing that something is the only way to serve God correctly
when it isn't, and may even be spoken of disapprovingly by Him in Torah and/or
Prophets, my own remark here.
Rethink it? Cheese we are being choked to death and enslaved by it. Yes, please, walk this way please...naughty naughty, now play nice wolves in sheeps clothing. I prefer solid legislation repeals and and and honest media with public discussion by solid spiritual warriors, but I sort-of-tried that and just got a ticket to 'get into a fema camp early card'.
Okay whatever. I am too old to do anything but pray anyway.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hWW27uwfH_E
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=32717
It is a game.
Why not let God sort out the Jewish people his way Mr Erikson?
You just sound more anti-semtic than usual with all your slicing and dicing.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies
Emotionally gut wrentching but I feel closer to the Almighty and even more sympathetic to Him and even more in awe of His mercy.
"Why not let God sort out the Jewish people his way Mr Erikson?
You just sound more anti-semtic than usual with all your slicing and dicing."
first off I'm not "Mr." Erikson that would be my late father. I am Ms. Erikson.
secondly, I have NEVER sounded or been anti semitic, and if you think anti qabalah
= anti-Semitism, then all those rabbis whose denunciations of qabalah I collected were anti-Semitic.
blow it out yer ass.
That you feel the need to pick them apart, like you do everyone else, is very anti-semtic of you Mr Erikson.
God knows his job.
take it up with Jewish author Herman Wouk and do a search
for "who is a Jew?"
Why do address me as male?
Whatever happened to Constance's request that Christine restrict herself to one post per day? And to Constance's later statement that she would restrict Christine in that way? It's Constance's blog but I feel let down.
Welcome to the Erikson Blog: What Christine, (aka Justine, aka Mary) Thinks, and also What Christine Feels, and also What Christine Speculates, and How Christine Defends Herself Against Anyone and Everything, as well as Why No One Can Reason With Her.
You have entered Mr Erikson's labratory. If you come here (and stay here) you become another one of the specimens.
No exceptions.
Even the Almighty is under review for analysis.
So take your place in line ("go to the end of the line" in Hillary Clinton fashion ;)) and keep your mouth shut.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0OI2IJ20150602?irpc=932
Think about this. The blog owners will first have to shut off the comment sections. The cost associated with the legal attacks from all the victims of insults could be incredibly high. Think about countries where people go nuts over the smallest perceived insult.
The global alexandria library, a smart grid, a web, a trap, now finally cut off from the bill of rights and possibly subject to international courts, well, in Turkey anything a local said was gospel. I remember one serviceman who was driving his maid home. The drunken driver of the beer truck hit them and killed the maid. The serviceman was charged with murder, found guilty and had to pay out as well as losing his job. Then there was the serviceman who was crossing the street and was hit by a teen who had stolen a car, anyway he was found to have been illegally jaywalking and his family had to pay for the car damage. These are just a few extreme examples of how Americans are treated in courts elsewhere. Women were told not to speak if arrested, never even dare show the bottom of our shoes, and men, no crossing the legs. It was Turkey, not Qatar for Christ's sake.
I hope people understand transparancy. The kind where your tiny city is required to have all of it's financial data on the global internet. Used to be, it was none of the feds business how your community paid the bills, now the world can be involved. My guess is that Al Gore's plan to tax thoughts may become the norm. This means blogs will be a thing of the past and another generation will be left to figure out who is behind their enslavement.
I don't think Constance can afford to pay taxes for all of Mary's thoughts, per comment.
http://cultbustersgalactica.yuku.com/topic/879/Bnei-Baruch-Kabbalah-Cult-Israel-and-via-the-Internet#.VW8bz2asNoM
"The vast majority of people who do study theJewish Kabbalah are mainstream orthodoxand Chasidic Jews of European descent."
http://www.workofthechariot.com/TextFiles/Back-JewishKabbalah.html
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http://www.jewishboston.com/17672-bnei-baruch-learning-center/blogs/6322-the-role-of-the-jews-quotes-by-our-sages
Nice. Case closed.
http://hsf.bgu.ac.il/cjt/files/electures/NAKabbalah2.htm
"But, before turning to examine contemporary Kabbalah as a postmodern spiritual phenomenon, I would like to discuss its connection to the New Age movement."
"As I mentioned earlier the resurgence of the new interest in Kabbalah coincides with the emergence of New Age Phenomena. In various New Age movements, especially in Israel, but also elsewhere,"
http://rense.com/general86/newagehit.htm
AND for complete details read Constance.
Ok, so we have seen and discussed the belly of the beast in the many facets and directions that the New Age has increasingly penetrated religion and in political circles from deep inside to far-reaching outside.
Question is, what are folks doing about it?
Christine, just wants to beat the subject to death, making it now the biggest yawn ever, and does zero with it except perhaps to go spread the yawn other places. How does that help?
Information overload is keeping the issue just running in circles with no set target (except us as her friendly fire targets).
The message should be current, concise, and targeted. Constance is trying and thankfully some others here keep eyes open to post links and pertaining commentary upon occasion at least, until hijacked by Christine just having a prolific long-winded conversations with her navel over here (and...lo and behold she has found her new age core!)
Would be funny if not so sad......
"...the Supreme Court identified secular humanism as a religion on at least two occasions: Abington v. Schempp and Torcaso v. Watkins.
In Torcaso the court spelled out that "religion" in the constitutional sense includes non-theistic, as well as theistic religion and the state is therefore forbidden to prohibit or promote either form of religion." [cites Helen M. Hughes, Inquiries in Sociology (Newton, Mass.: Allyn and Bacon, 1972), 37]
http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/newageed.html
http://www.chinacrimpingtools.com/Cable-Cutter/WX206A-hand-cable-cutter.jpg
"Question is, what are folks doing about it?"
It really is hopeless, pray and love the Lord.
I tried to effect policy in two states, one insane and left and one totally right. I do not believe it can be done. 1. I estimate informants out number people who have any motivation to help 2 to 1in every group or organization 2. The patriot movement was crushed in the 90s what is left is a controlled tea group pitted against a controlled occupy group (read 'You and the Police')3. Both political parties are fully controlled. 4. I have personally watched most alternative media become 'white supremacist' as each legitimate one was taken over, so truth is simply racist you see 5. Breitbart is dead, any reporter worth his weight is either labeled anti semite or dead. 6. Awsome Jews are called self haters 7. I live in a huge county, I found one church that is not Zionist, can't bring myself to go because I can't face anymore informants and it is completely impossible to teach people this, they think you are nuts, we already live like East Germans, Alinsky said the fear of the thing is worse than the thing its self, people just get scared and shut down with fear. 8. The new immgrants hate us, really they hate hate us, I used to help the new Latinos, and there is the language barrier they can not get it 9. Unaware Americans willing to stand up are being seduced into 'hate muslim groups' and events where their faces are being entered into the DHS facial recognition software for future use and to isolate them later 10. common core is making the new generation stupid 11. blogs like this record ip addresses and connections 12 Michigan was the only state who did try and stop the internet2 state net..
http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2010/06/the-perniciously-persistent-myths-of-hypatia-and-the-great-library
...broadband thing, but quickly caved, does anyone remember where their state layed that UN Broadband, they usually followed roads....a law to dig it up maybe?
No chance I think.
I am studying apologetics for when I go to a camp, unless anthrax, ebola, starvation, nuclear explosion or the flu or maybe a "muslim extremist" (assassin) gets me. We did have a family goodbye dinner.
http://pasyn.org/resources/sermons/rules-rabbis
January 2015
Stunning beauty: VIDEO, the synagogue, the Rabbis wearing religious shawls, the audience in their best religious dress, the lighting, the menoras, yes and they praise Saul David Alinsky the Jewish activist.
Hahahah secular huh? Hahahhaha. Brhahahha. Oh no Judaism has been hijacked by mystics like Islam has been hijacked by terrorists!!
It's a game. A "Snow Job" as Saul would say. I love watching him in videos on youtube, what a wise guy from Chicago! Yeah me not a sucker for 1 nice people 2 stab you in the back 3 claim their religion was hijacked 4 play victim. The no 1 thing a sociopath wants? Your sympathy. It's a game. Wait did this Rabbi in the video just compare Alinsky's writings to *gasp* The Almighty?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PdQHsq229TE
Hands down my favorite Alinsky interview on youtube. Hilarious! What a wise guy!
what you are focusing on, is the fact that Alinsky had a bigger agenda
than the issues he exploited for that agenda.
what you are missing, is that those other issues that he exploited, are
what these people are focusing on.
" From addressing societal ills in Chicago’s South Side neighborhoods, to the civil rights movement, from the antiwar movement of the 1960s to mentoring Cesar Chavez’s United Farm Workers, Alinsky was in many respects the founding father of modern community organizing"
if the so called Christian community had been all that biblical and Christian,
he wouldn't have had a problem to solve in order to advance his real agenda.
Or, we would have stepped in and done all that work.
as for the antiwar movement, the original opposition to Viet Nam was respectable,
the CIA stepped in and created the counterculture so that antiwar became
equated with filth, degeneracy and drug abuse. (and hallucinogenics and alternative
"spirituality," the latter being something the old American elites and CIA leaders
were into already.)
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/scroll down to Inside The LC The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/johnpaul.html
So you blame the victims of the on going snow job again? Easy for you isn't it? They asked for it, it was the CIA, lizard people, aliens maybe? But never the real perps, right Mary?
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/christian1.html
Oh my.
Yes well it is the internet, your link is a crappy as my link. So the video of the Rabbis praising Saul David Alinsky and his words in his mouth, count alot. Thes rest is who knows what is junk or not. I prefer their own words not CIA stories. Oh wait, it is Mary Christine, it is about you.
no its not about me, never has been about me (except when some slanderers
try to turn it into that) it is about whatever I am posting about. The
stuff you people have missed that have snowjobbed you.
blame the victims? what are you talking about? was civil rights and some
improvements in poverty and the effort to end a war that supported the
interests of big money and that was based on the lie of the Gulf of Tonkin
incident, that declassified papers have shown NEVER HAPPENED a case of
victimizing anyone?
how about reading Anthony Sutton (opposing) and Carroll Quigley (praising)
to see that the monopoly capitalism, whose idea of liberty is liberty from
competition, financed communism and hitler and everything else?
Try Tarpley and see that the things you blame on JEws were pioneered by
the Venetians, and the Jews just joined the game later. And "the Jews"
in that matter are a handful not most of them anyway.
http://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/pdf/1921_mauro_seventyweeks.pdfthis comes from the preterist archive, so is part of the body of works the preterists,
who deny any prophecy remains to be fulfilled, put to their use.
however, although he misses the cue that the four beasts are not the ancient
empires but modern ones, the point he makes about the seventy weeks and the
last week is telling. But only regarding THAT part of prophecy.
THE SEVENTY WEEKS AND THE TRIBULATION by Mauro.
I haven't finished the second part, but he makes the interesting point that
no interpreters of prophecy before recent to the early part of the 20th
century (maybe 100 years or less probably less) had related "the prince
to come" to the antichrist, or split the last week into at least 2,000
years. The desolation of AD 70 was originally supposed to happen 3 1/2
years after Jesus' Crucifixion and Resurrection, but because of HIs prayer,
:Father forgive them for they know not what they do" it was delayed
and thousands were converted by the Apostles' preaching among the
Jews. so a lacuna in time was added, but nothing as outrageous as
taken for granted now.
THIS IS NOT WHAT THE THREE AND A HALF YEAR TRIBULATION PERIOD IDEA IS
BASED ON, THOUGH IT OFTEN REFERS TO THAT, BUT TO THE TIME AND TIMES AND
A HALF IN REVELATION.
The ending of the sacrifices was the ending of their validity before God,
and a Talmudic source said that the ribbon that would change color on
the scape goat every year, ceased to do so for a number of years before
AD 70 - the same number that began at the Crucifixion and Resurrection
of Christ, though of course the Talmud didn't make that connection. I
don't have the source in front of me right now.
That doesn't rule out some end time Temple happening, but whatever the
abomination of desolation or that makes desolate is, since this is an
event apparently in future, something comparable to what was already
fulfilled in the days of the Maccabbees, it would have to do with the
antichrist likely enough. the second half of this book will probably
make a case for whatever it is. But the early Church Fathers knew
all that had happened that fulfilled Daniel's prophecy to a T regarding
the kings of north and south, yet expected it to replay to some extent
again later.
But a seven year treaty with Israel is probably not in the offing.
you guys (and myself till now) have been looking for the wrong indicators.
Meanwhile, look for Russia and China to become major presences in the
Middle East first, perhaps China is the four headed leopard, or perhaps
Russia will crush Turkey and Kurdistan (which would also fit the leopard)
will be established. Time will tell.
reading more, this guy is definitely a total preterist. But long
after AD 70 we have the beast the antichrist being predicted and
described in Revelation. And persecution of saints, tribulation
by definition. Also described in Daniel chapter 7. As I pointed
out, early writers expected some of Daniel's prophecies about
Antiochus Epiphanes and Herod to replay again.
dismissing waking as merely spiritual waking, not resurrection,
though it talks about waking from dust, is more of the
spiritualization of literal things that prophecy and bible truth
twisters always do. A jump is obviously done from Herod and AD 70
to a much later time, and Revelation fits this. John the Baptist's
preaching hardly awakened them from centuries of spiritual sleep
since many had been faithful to YHWH all that time, though he
awakened some to repentance from sin and faithlessness. But to
argue that awakening spiritually doesn't mean you will be saved
is absurd. Those who rejected Jesus could hardly be said to
have been awakened in the first place.
Rev. 12:13 and 14:5 use the phrase time, times and a half and
42 months which is the same thing. So clearly, this which was
written c. AD 100, is not a rehash of Daniel's prophecies
leading up to AD 70. There IS a replay going to happen to some
extent. Not exact, but the critically weird stuff will.
signs in the sun and moon and stars he "spiritualizes" into
referring to earthly human powers instead of the obvious literal
interpretation. This is important history, but by denying the
obvious resurrection passages of Daniel and spiritualizing
anyting thatdoesn't fit preterism, he goes astray.
Mauro's claiming that the king who does not regard the desire
of women (this is Herod) is against the Messiah who all women
want to give birth to, is weak because the speaking against
the most High would already apply to his effort to kill Christ
so the massacre of the innocents is probably not the issue.
http://www.mycrandall.ca/courses/NTIntro/InTest/Hist7.htm
details his interesting stresses with women and he had 9 wives
throughout his life.
Christine, why do you not comply with Constance's 3-time request to post not more than once daily?
can you spell hypocrisy? on your part. you ask me a question
expecting an answer, which would add to the existing violation
of her request.
how about her request no more than one Christine bashing post
a day either?
some things can't be dealt with in one post. Why don't you
discuss what's been posted instead of trying to make this be
about me? or is it that you think it is all about you?
"some things can't be dealt with in one post. Why don't you discuss what's been posted instead of trying to make this be about me?"
You've already done that. As for whether things can be discussed in one post, try it - good discipline and a mercy for the rest of us. You have in fact just added to what you admit is your "existing violation of her [Constance's] request". how about a little respect for the blog owner?
Here is how (and only one of many other examples) we know that you have, indeed, made it about you, Christine Erikson.
Pro 25:17 Withdraw thy foot from thy neighbour's house; lest he be weary of thee, and so hate thee.
You continue to blame others and excuse yourself, thus proving your wrong-doing in intent and action (going beyond the advise of this verse could even become a stalking issue). This is clear disrespect and disregard for others (even and especially God). Do you realize this is what your behavior says about you?
Obviously Christine's ramblings don't bother Constance. Other than an occasional poke, nothing. Other than the fact that Constance and Christine both begin with "C", I think there are parallels between the two individuals. Here's the first in my opinion. Constance says she isn't a Jew hater, but constantly supports a violently Jew hating network, the Microeffect, because it supports her program, thus giving the network credibility. Christine says she isn't a Jew hater, but constantly posts information that would turn others into Jew haters. She can get away with it because all opposition to her ramblings are drowned out and she posts endlessly with Constance's support. The first response will be that criticism of Jews is not across the board Jew hating which is true. It would be interesting to see if either could come up with some positive comments about Jews or Judaism.
Starting with hating her mother and herself, Christine tends to, in noticeable degree, to be misanthropic. It sure shows up here in her text and tone.
It is real popular to hate Jews, and though that really never left the scene, it is definitely a trend on the rise again.
Don't see it the same way with Constance regarding Jewish people, though.
Constance is gracious in my book.
"It is real popular to hate Jews, and though that really never left the scene, it is definitely a trend on the rise again."
The trend should decrease as soon as the internet is fully controlled and fake Bibles become more popular. Or as it becomes more and more a crime to think and feel a certain wat. Although I am not sure how one should be expected to 'like' being abused, enslaved, murdered, destroyed, deceived and more, but if you support that then you do, but again it seems like a 'nudge' or provocative to expect people to not only take it which most have too and most do and will, but to suggest they have to feel good about it or pretend it isn't happening is realy outrageous.
Even basic hate laws and thought control laws are fascist at the core. It is amazing how many people support fascism and thought and feeling control today. Maybe 2 to 1 with few left who want to be free. Too bad.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=APOAmxFEMkQ
cybernetics for the masses
Why Constance uses that particular venue you mentioned I do not know, but I do not believe she is anti-semitic, as she exposes in her reporting here and in her publications, those who have really bad plans involving the Jewish people (of course everyone period). And yes, some large numbers of people now, do not give one thought to this, and certainly that is too bad.
It is the times we are in. What has gone around multiple times is back for a finish.
God knows and knows what to do with all of this. We are seeing extreme happenings but it has to come to this and worse still, until it is done. A new beginning is coming and it will be Jesus bringing it when he comes as King.
The trend to destroy Catholicism, fundamental Protestantism and Basic Judaism will not decrease. It is hard wired into the New Age movement as shown by the Bailey books and trends around the world. Jews who leave Judaism behind may or may not become acceptable because Jews will always have a tie to Judaism. Catholicism and the Protestant community can be destroyed from the inside. As long as their are Orthodox Jews in the world, Jews will always be tied to Judaism if only by a hair. For thousands of years many Jews whose families have walked away from normal Judaism come back. They are known as Baal_teshuva. Just read in interesting essay in the book Requiem for Marx (1993) by the Ludwig von Mieses Institute. Author of Karl Marx: Communist as Religious Eschatologist by Murray N. Rothbard. (221-294) Until I read this very long essay, I had no idea how many Christian Messiahs were in the works in Christian utopias. These preceded communism which was to replace them. In the book is another good essay by Gary North, The Marx Nobody Knows.
Absolutely hard-wired that is true. But there has always been a remnant of the true and God knows who they are. God reminded Elijah that 7000 had not bent their knee to Baal. That will in the same sense, be true again.
There is a real Messiah coming.
Every counterfeit will go to dunghill no matter what brand they are.
So when can DHS be called racists? I am on their list of terrorists for being a believer in Christ? I am against collectivism so that would have made me enemy no 1 in the 50s to the same ADL. So if antisemitism is really anti slavery, anti Lucifer, anti secret society, anti collectivism, then say what you really mean by antisemitism. define it already, you mean Christian and possibly white right? Again, it's a game. Semantic deception is a tactic. The race card is a tactic as well. OH no you called me a name, now what? I am on a list, now what? Well, I can't go to the zoo, the facial recognition thing works. So what next, general harassment? I can't fly I bet ...but I have not tried. After that? What will you do if I still don't love my oppression? Shall I look to North Korea and see what happens to complainers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg5sjTxOB6I
https://archive.org/details/TheAnti-defamationLeagueAndItsUseInTheWorldCommunistOffensive.1947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivdjX6YQyHo
What happens to complainers?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3078006/North-Korean-dictator-Kim-Jong-ordered-poisoning-aunt-complained-husband-executed.html
(sigh)
You asked what is antisemitism?
1. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2348191/EXCLUSIVE-KGB-operation-seeded-Muslim-countries-anti-American-anti-Jewish-propaganda-1970s-laying-groundwork-Islamist-terrorism-U-S-Israeli-targets.html (I presume you know communism was very antisemitic before the wall fell. New Age is communism under a pretty picture of angels, etc. )
2. I presume you know about Dominion Theology and the Reconstructionist movement. If not you might want to get the book Vengence is Ours. Vengeance Is Ours: The Church in Dominion Jul 4, 1990
by Albert J. Dager $4.74new(10 offers)$0.01used(31 offers) The parallels between this form of Christianity and the early utopias are quite interesting. And they were early communism.
3. The book "Through the '80s" put out in 1980 by the World Future S0ciety (basic New Age) has several warning chapters on religion, including one called the Tyranny of the Righteous.
4. An early picture of New Age showed plans to turn the religious groups against each other.
The organizations working against the hold of religion certainly aren't seeing you as you see yourself. Reading your commentary one would think All Jews are liberals and all liberals are against Christians. If you look carefully you'll see the sides are much more complex. Know your enemy.
Once I was reading Jewish activist David Horowitz and he had a blog post (since taken down) by one of his fellow reporters that slammed 'the goy'. I should have printed it at that moment (but I was shocked) including the comment that said "this should not be posted on Horowitz". The protocols are legit. Most Muslims can't read so it was certainly NOT written as any propaganda. Long paragraphs writen in one sentence do make good propaganda. Beside even the encyclopedia Judaica, of which I have a copy, says that Arab and Jewsish intelectuals work well together. The Muslims are mad because Israeli Zionists mistreat Palistianians, regularly. Since the protocols are written with frankly, the longest sentences I have ever read basically one paragraph is one sentence and it took my college educated brain several attempts to even grasp this high level occultist brief, I am sure it was written by occculists many who are Jewish. Nice try. :) Again, not believing the snow job gets the name calling going and nothing else.
do not make good propaganda
4:52 disinformation agent
I admit once I was ashamed to read them, then I realized that was the brainwashing I received in grade school. It is just a book that all should read and decide for themselves. It is online now, but probably won't be someday.
"The only statement I care to make about the PROTOCOLS is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. THEY FIT IT NOW."
Tavistock spends lots of time promoting the left right paradigm. It is a hoax. I don't listen to Horowitz, Levin, Savage or Howard Stearn or anything from Rupert's Fox News. I asumed most people with a Biblical world view knew that it's about Jesus and those against Jesus which is everyone not for Jesus or rather against Jesus, as in the list above. So why would I listen to their commentary with any real concern?
excellent book Karl Marx: Communist as Religiouis Eschatologist. I am reading
the pdf version, and while this is hardly written by a Christian the writer is
sharp enough to identify and describe ideas whether he believes them or not.
And this description of what he calls "reabsorptionism" is a real good
description of Gnosticism in general and the New Age in particular. Sorry
for the odd typos, this happens when you copy paste from a pdf, but you
can get the idea.
"For it is the contention of this article that
the crucial goal-communism-is an atheized version of a certain
type of religious eschatology; that the alleged inevitable process of
getting there-the dialectic-is an atheistic form of the same reli-
gious laws of history; and that the supposedly central problem of
capitalism as perceived by "humanist" Marxists, the problem of
"alienation," is an atheistic version of the selfsame religion's meta-
physical grievance at the entire created universe.
As far as I know, there is no commonly-agreed upon name to
designate this fatefully influential religion. One name is "process
theology," but I shall rather call it "reabsorption theology," for the
word "reabsorption" highlights the allegedly inevitable end-point of
human history as well as its supposed starting point in a pre-creation
union with God.
As Leszek Kolakowski points out in his monumental work on
Marxism, reabsorption theology begins with the third-century
Greek philosopher Plotinus, and moves from Plotinus to some of
the Christian Platonists, where it takes its place as a Christian
heresy. That heresy tends to bubble up repeatedly from beneath
the surface in the works of such Christian mystics as the nineteenth-
century philosopher John Scotus Erigena and the fourteenth-century
Meister Johannes ~ckhart.'"
The nature and profound implications of reabsorption theology
may best be grasped by contrasting this heresy to Christian ortho-
doxy. We begin at the beginning-with creatology, 'the science or
discipline of the first days. Why did God create the universe? The
orthodox Christian answer is that God created the universe out of a
benevolent and overflowing love for his creatures. Creation was
therefore good and wondrous; the fly in the ointment was introduced
by man's disobedience to God's laws, for which sin he was cast out of
Eden. Out of this Fall he can be redeemedaby the Incarnation of
God-in-human flesh and the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross. Note that
the Fall was a moral one, and that Creation itself remains metaphys-
ically'good. Note, too, that in orthodox Christianity, each human
individual, made in the image of God, is of supreme importance, and
each individual's salvation becomes of critical concern.
Reabsorption theology, however, originates in a very different
creatology. One of its crucia1,tenets is that, before Creation, man-ob-
viously the collective-species man and not each individual-existed
in happy union, in some sort of mighty cosmic blob, united with God
and even with Nature. In the Christian view, God, unlike man, is
perfect; and therefore does not, like man, perform actions in order to
improve his lot. But for the reabs~r~tionists,
God acts analogously
with humans: GO^ acts out of what Mises called "felt uneasiness," out
of dissatisfaction with his current lot. God, in other words, creates
the universe out of loneliness, dissatisfaction, or,Igenerally, in order
to develop his undeveloped faculties. God creates the universe out of
felt need.
In the reabsorptionist view, Creation, instead of being wondrous
and good, is essentially and metaphysically evil. For it generates
diversity, individuality, and separateness, and thereby cuts off man
from his beloved cosmic union with God. Man is now permanently
"alienated from God, the fundamental alienation; and also from
other men, and from nature. It is this cosmic metaphysical separate-
ness that lies at the heart of the Marxian concept of "alienation," and
not, as we might now think, personal griping about not controlling
the operation of one's factory, or about lack of access to wealth or political
power. Alienation is a cosmic condition and not a psychological com-
plaint. For the reabsorptionists, the crucial problems of the world come
not from moral failure but from the essential nature of creation itself."
Orpheus = Plato = Babylonian man god --back to the mystery school ---again and this is spread via the Rosecrutions (Theosophists), Gnostics, Masons, and brotherhoods like Muslim and B'nai Brith etc. Wait, who was the whore of Babylon, the mother of all Harlots? That's right those naughty spiritual whores.
https://www.learnthebible.org/satan-the-musician.html
"In one sense therefore, Satan was the heavenly choir director and he led the songs of praise to the Lord that still ring in heaven. The inbuilt tabrets and pipes would definitely come in handy here.
Now, when Satan fell in rebellion against God, he did not lose the natural abilities that God had given him. Therefore, he kept the tabrets and the pipes. But now, he did not use them to bring glory to the Lord but to turn God's creatures against their Creator. His expertise is seen in the powerful influence he welds today in music."
Satan vs Orpheus
wiki..Orpheus's music and singing could charm the birds, fish and wild beasts, coax the trees and rocks into dance,[1
"The orthodox Christian line was set by the
great Saint Augustine in the early fifth century, and has been ac-
cepted ever since by the mainstream Christian churches: Roman
Catholic, Lutheran, and arguably by Calvin and at least by the Dutch
wing of the Calvinist church. That orthodox line holds that the
millennial Kingdom of God on Earth [KGE] is strictly a metaphor for
the Christian Church, which reigns on earth only in the spiritual
sense. The material realization of the Kingdom of God will only arrive
upon the Day of Judgment, and is therefore to be confined to heaven
alone. Orthodox Christians have always warned that taking the KGE
literally, what the late orthodox Christian theorist Erich Voegelin
called "immanentizing the eschatonV-bringing the eschaton down to
earth-is bound to create grave social problems. For one thing, most
versions of how the KGE will come into being are apocalyptic. The
KGE is to be preceded by a mighty Armageddon, a titanic war of good
against evil, in which the good will finally, though inevitably, triumph."
actually, the millenarian literal Kingdom of God on Earth or KGE is
brought not by man but by the return of Jesus Christ, so the social
problems he discusses do not exist if you take the context literally
as well as the idea literally. Dominionism post millennialism which is
the aforementioned amillennialism on steroids, does not take the context
literally only the KGE to its own egotistical (in the sense of larger
self, the movement or group one identifies with, so one's egotism is
disguised because not obviously individualistic) reasons.
I would not call Augustine great, I understand the appeal of his life experience and his popularity but I certainly see him as step one on many lists bosted by the occultists as their occult history and he is often next to Plato. Sure he seems like a saint next to modern Gnostic tv pastors, but great, nope.
http://www.intelltheory.com/map.shtml
"Par-
ticularly influential among later German Pietists was the French
mystic and theosophist Louis Claude de Saint-Martin, who in his
influential Des Erreurs et la Verite (1773) portrayed an "inner church
3f the elect" allegedly existing since the dawn of history, which soon
would take power in the coming age. This "Martinist" theme was
developed by the Rosicrucian movement, concentrated in Bavaria.
Originally alchemist mystics during the seventeenth and eighteenth
zenturies, the Bavarian Rosicrucians began to stress the coming to
world power by the church of the elect during the dawning millennial
age. The most influential Bavarian Rosicrucian author, Carl von
Eckartshausen, expounded on this theme in two widely read works,
Information on Magic (1788-92) and On Perfectibility (1797). In the
latter work, he developed the idea that the inner church of the elect
had existed backward in time to Abraham and then to go forward to
a world government ruled by these keepers of the divine light. The
third and final Age of History, the Age of the Holy Spirit, was now at
hand. The illuminated elect destined to rule the new communal world
order were, fairly obviously, the Rosicrucian Order, since major evi-
dence for the dawn of the Third Age being imminent was the rapid
spread of Martinism and Rosicrucianism itself.
And these movements were indeed spreading during the 1780s
and 1790s. The Prussian King Frederick William I1 and a large
portion of his court were converted to Rosicrucianism in the late
1780s, as was the Russian Czar Paul I a decade later, based on his
reading of Saint-Martin and Eckartshausen, both of whom Paul
considered to be transmitters of divine revelation. Saint-Martin was
also influential through his leadership of the Scottish Rite Masonry
in Lyons, and was the major figure in what might be called the
apocalyptic-Christian wing of the Masonic movement.33
The leading communist movement during the French Revolution,
however, was secularized."
what he doesn't mention, but is consistent with the title of the
first book mentioned, is that Martinism as a magic order claims that
the top level initiates must join with some spirit to facilitate
that entity's supposed evolution and they walk together from then on.
The Martinist Order joined forces with the Grand Lodge Masonic Order
or some similar name in France and the AMORC crew back in the early
2000s AD according to a Rosicrucian I talked with.
Is the a new age documentary?
http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwmovies/article/BWW-Reviews-ROOTED-IN-PEACE-Meets-The-Aquarian-Conspiracy-20150226-page2
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1551633/
https://socialconcerns.nd.edu/about/ReflectionsOnFr.HesburghandCenter.shtml
"We knew early on that Fr. Ted admired grassroots organizing efforts. He had even brought civil rights activist and community organizer Msgr. Jack Egan to the University to be his special assistant."
***Egan was trained by Jewish Activist and Lucifarian Saul David Alinsky himself in Chicago. There you go Constance. See sometimes thinking leads to knowing, HA. ***
I guess we are going back to disappearing comments. A rather long comment on the Protocols disappeared when I hit the Publish your comment button. So I'm back to writing it in Wordpad, copying it to the Leave Your comment section. Maybe the original was just too long.
PART 1 of 3
The Protocols are not new. They have a very long history. Start by looking what Constance has written about them in this blog.
Saturday, August 27, 2005
"I was not convinced of that until the next year. That was when Liberty Lobby sent somebody to me to talk me out of my opposition to their work. The somebody they sent was Cornelius Vanderbreggen, the man who had allegedly led Pat Robertson to the Lord. Inter alia, he told me of his fervent belief of the truth of the virulently anti-Jewish, THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION. This was the man who Robertson left Dede Robertson in late stages of her second pregnancy to join for 40 days in the wilderness at an InterVarsity summer camp."
Saturday, April 15, 2006
"[1]The metropolitan Detroit area featured three well stocked New Age bookstores when I started my research in 1982. They were the Mayflower; Middle Earth Books; and the Michigan Metaphysical Society’s store. The Mayflower carried numerous pieces of anti-Semitic literature such as “The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion” and Lady Jane Queensborough’s “Occult Theocrasy.” They, like the H. G. Wells’ THE OPEN CONSPIRACY were strangely labeled “Christian Book Club Edition” .
Friday, November 24, 2006
"His new catalog IS “New Age,” -- in the very skimpiest of disguises -- and in the very ugliest sense of the word. It carries as allegedly reputable works books by unashamed anti—Semites such as Des Griffin and Ted Pike. His table of contents carries a section, “Judaism, Jews, Israel, and the Talmud.” It even carries the “Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,” a forgery put into circulation by one Yuliana (Justine) Glinka, one of Madame Blavatsky’s foremost Parisian disciples. He presents a tape of his own: “The Hidden Agenda – the Ten Awful Goals of the Illuminati’s World Zionist Council.”
PART 2 of 3
Constance discovered two extremely good academic books on occult history, James Webb's The Occult Underground and The Occult Establishment. He wriote about the Protocols in his books, and other authors talk of him sharing information. If you do a Google or Bing search, you will find many listings with this information. Interestingly enough Webb had access to Theosophical Society files of one of the oldest theosophical groups in LaSalle, IL US. It was suggested to me by a member that this group was the group that brought Eastern religion ideas to the US at the World Parliament of Religions. The publisher, Open Court, put out the books as well as another by Webb. Many of us researchers made sure the books are in our libraries. I believe in one of these books he documents how members of the Theosophical Society brought the Protocols from Russia to Germany
PART 3 OF 3
I am recommending the book "Dismantling the Big Lie" by Jacobs and Weizmann (2003) 234 pages with 14 pages of bibliography. The authors give the full Protocols in the Appendix of the book. The book consists of an outline of each protocol, followed by the arguments of each and a refutation of each in order.
The history of the Protocols is this. "In 1864. a French lawyer, Maurice Joly, published a satire entitled Dialogue aux Enfers entre Machiavel et Montesquieu, ou la politique aux xix siecle (Conversation in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu, on the Politics of the Nineteenth Century") for which he was later to pay with his life. This satiric text of French politics made no reference whatsoever to Jews or Judaism, but did discuss the possibility that the masses were being politically manipulated for economic and other ends by superior persons." Information I came across but have since lost said a meeting of occult groups took place at that time and this was discussed. More details about the spread of the Protocols was available after the communists used the material in the Soviet Union to attack Jews, etc. Occult groups have a long history with socialist and communists plans.
Thanks Anonymous 9:32 It's a rather large list of names generally connected with New Age ideas and organizations we should be watching.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1551633/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm
We don't need Machiavelli or Montesquieu. We have both together all wrapped up in one Mary Christine Erikson. What she lacks
in accuracy and honesty she makes up for in verbosity and endless volume.
93 out 317 posts so far are from Christina.
Unbelievable this is still happening!!!
http://www.atimeofdeparting.com/books.htm
a couple of really good books, to judge by the table of contents and
sample chapters by Ray Yungen from lighthousetrails.com links
Running around the site posted by Christine, I found there was little about the political end of the New Age movement, understandable. I did come across something particularly appropriate to our times, and it was at http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/government-became-their-god/#yBk1SFbGYieP2wju.99
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"...Dittman’s story resonates with modern audiences, because the parallels between pre-war Europe and modern America are so striking. “When I was a girl in Germany, when the Nazis came to power, promises were made,” she says. “When I see Obama speak, and see the people inflamed when he raises his voice, I have nightmares about Hitler.”
"Dittman sees chilling similarities in the two leaders, Hitler and Obama. She remembers the “messianic” fervor that came with Hitler’s ascension to power in early 1933. “It’s the same thing, you see, after Obama got the nomination,” she says, noting the irony. “Newspapers in Germany wrote that he was the ‘Second Messiah’!” (See Obamamessiah.blogspot.com)(Because Obama has not worked out for them doesn't mean they have given up and will not put another in his place.)
“What happened in Germany is that they had come out of World War I devastated and humiliated. They were looking for a savior and this was what Hitler offered. But there are tradeoffs with a dictator.” (Note: our country is financially devastated now.) Markell says that several elements which were hallmarks of the Nazi power-grab are being repeated in the United States, including the removal of prayer in schools; changing “Christmas” and “Easter” to “Holidays” and “Spring Break,” socialized medicine and an emphasis on the environment. “Little by little in Germany, it brought tyranny,” says Markell. “The German people didn’t care about Jesus, because they loved this orator (Hitler). Government became their god — the very definition of a nanny state.” Dittman’s uncommon perspective connects the dots for her audiences today. She is especially knowledgeable of the interaction between a totalitarian regime and a country’s church leadership...."
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Several points - Government became their (the Germans) God. Christians and Jews who believed in Biblical morality, to the extent possible at the time, worked together to fight back against the "God" government. History is full of examples of danger when the religious became the government and vice versa.
what the politically focused and spiritually focused here (and everywhere)
need to realize is that you can't separate these two all that much. Sure,
the atheist element might not qualify as new age in the classic sense,
some will pooh pooh theosophy and pop occultism, but they will work for
such of the political side as they like. Others dislike much of the politics,
and need to see that it is the working out - complete with potential
homicidal purges and definitely with persecution of non mystical versions
of religions and totalitarianism - of the spiritual side. Those who are only
into their own advancement not "ascension" or anything but using magic or
astrology to get their own way need to realize that the demons back of
these are pushing for the rest of this and it is all a trap.
parts can be discussed separately, but to complain that any such discussion
when it doesn't deal with what part of the New Age you are most upset about
shows ignorance of the poster or a desire to derail or that it is offtopic
shows you don't understand the new age as much as you think you do.
It is Nazism, yes, but not only that. it is an attack on Christianity and
it is racist but it is not only that.
And it isn't as simple as socialism/collectivism vs. individualism, that
is a trap I fell into once, but it isn't biblical. and it doesn't fit
reality. or history.
Granted Christians are as sensitive about any negative aspects of their history as any group is. Nevertheless I would recommend anyone taking the New Age seriously should look at history as found in the Murray Rothbard essay, Karl Marx: Communist as Religious Eschatologist. Definition: a branch of theology concerned with the final events in the history of the world or of humankind.
Checking Amazon I found copies of the book, Requiem for Marx, are available inexpensively, $3.77 and up. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0945466137/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all It appears on Kindle now. There are two books with similar titles which are different. As was pointed out earlier, Kindle use is available free. For $2.99 you can read the book on your computer. Although Christine tried, there is no way a 73 page essay can be cut down to several paragraphs which appear on a website. The original essay details many movements where utopias were tried and how they became disastrous even though the original goals were presented as Christian goals.
One of the talk show hosts made an observant comment. He said callers used the name Saul Alinsky in an effort to present their views as being totally knowledgeable about what is taking place. History is much more complex. We need many more scholars knowledgeable about the New Age movement than we have now. Most, as one could say, "chew the same fat" over and over again. On this blog specifics are put down by everyone like their markers on a long race track, never being examined by anyone in any detail. Then everyone collapses in saying "Just follow Jesus. That's all that matters." Well in many of the specific movements detailed in the essay, the followers thought they were doing that. In the long run they ran into destruction. With the historical access we now have, we should be able to do better than that. But it's not happening..
anon 5:43
well said, especially that part about "following Jesus." given that
these monsters were using excerpts of the bible out of context and
applied wrongly to themselves and their followers of course, you can
sorta understand why letting people read the bible for themselves
was a controversial topic back then. This only made it worse.
Heresies all arose in the old days from among the clergy, who were
hardly illiterate and in those days the Bible was in Greek, the
language everyone spoke and many read.
as for bad scenes out of our history, I am not sure what you mean.
Those crazies were not really Christian at all. They fit the warning
Christ gave of people coming falsely in his name and saying they
were Him. Several of these leaders either did that, or claimed that
the New covenant was over and they were the newer covenant, so to
speak. behavior explicitly limited by God in the OT to a specific
time and place was applied however to their current situaitons.
Or if you mean the massacres, sorry, I can't agree that was bad,
those monsters needed killing. mercy to them would be mercilessness
to others.
Christine 5:15 Your post is totally unclear. It is that kind of gobbledygook that keeps anyone from searching further. You add demons to the description and that wraps it all up in a package for you. Are you suggesting that encyclopedias be destroyed and libraries be burned and a sign put up saying "Demons are behind everything going on so matter taken care of." How bizarre. No wonder you have no following except what Constance gives you.
Christine, please don't jump on my post of 5:43. There is absolutely no connection with what you write in 5:53 and that post.
Anon. 5:43 said:
"With the historical access we now have, we should be able to do better than that. But it's not happening."
It really is amazing, isn't it, that with all the access to information that the average person has, and the ease with which one may publish their own work, the quality of research one finds by googling the internet seems to be at an all-time low.
Nothing beats the hard work of finding reputable sources, doing some hard thinking about how to interpret the data that is found, and arriving at well-thought-out conclusions. Original thinking is even harder to come across. It has always been so, internet or no internet. In fact, I would say that with the arrival of the internet, the "signal to noise" ratio has gotten so low that it is much more difficult to get a decent education. The internet has made "lazy" research so very easy, but has not helped much at all with good research.
As you said, it shouldn't be so, but alas, it is.
Marko, I was comparing what is available now with what was available in the 1500s and 1700s for instance when people had to depend on self-designated authorities. I do understand your comment though. You might be interested in this article which was sent to me by an engineer. Group think is what we have on most websites dealing with a particular topic.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/rise-new-groupthink-power-working-alone-susan-cain
I commented to him "In my opinion one of the biggest problems of group think is the intimidation factor as well as human competitiveness. How does one keep control of an idea when others work to gain the credit for it." He answered "That's the whole point of patents but those cost money and even more to enforce and they don't work in all contexts."
Back at New Age on this topic, Group Think is what they are promoting in Common Core. It seems to me Group Think gives control to a dictator whether in the academic area or in the government where disobedience to the leader is considered the highest evil or in New Age, per Bailey, where those who cause separation from the group's thinking are considered the evil ones. Surprise! Surprise! Same thing happened through history. And to keep Christians interested in the topic, the good book says even the elect (just like them I think) can be deceived. Matthew 24:24. Messiahs and prophets need not be religious leaders. We have many secular ones running around the internet these days.
Agreed 6:02 PM.
In light of that I read this quote from Leonard Ravenhill recently:
The Holy Book of the Living God suffers more from it's exponents today than it's opponents.
AKA the Mary Christine Erikson Effect with most topics here, but especially, the Bible.
Anonymous 7:57 Christine is an example of a person who appears to have lived a very complicated life leading to her public image and actions now, but for whatever reasons she has not examined carefully what's led to her decisions. I do hope she gets the book I recommended.
That's all of us. At least 25 years ago, at a conservative meeting I attended, a young man pointed out to the group that most who do evil or wrong, give in to temptation, don't do it to do evil or wrong. He said people always find explanations or reasons for what they do that justifies to them why they are doing those things. Killers, thieves, adulterers, liars, manipulators, sexual deviants, cult leaders, etc. always have a reason in their heads to justify the action.
What scares me most about the New Age movement is that the religious establishment hardly ever speaks about morality any more. Where are the many books teaching religion is to go much further than the government in teaching morality and the reasons for those boundaries. Right now the government seems to set the moral standards. Not recycling is much worse to many than buying pornography. But that's another discussion.
anon 9:44
so now anyone who disagrees with your views on things and who doesn't agree
that your slipshod handling of Scripture is authoritative, is on a par with
killers etc. in that list?
just post what you think is relevant. I am not going to spend the money to
get the book.
I'm not going to put on a public record something which I may think is true of you but only you know if it is true. Go to the library. "The most difficult thing in life is to know yourself" ..Thales
What you think is my slipshod handling of Scripture is only in your head because you probably see something as in disagreement with authoritative you. Otherwise, you would document your allegation. Anyone who reads your posts knows your writing style...throw everything on the page and see if something sticks.
anon 10:52
my email is infowolf1@aol.com and you can make a fake email for yourself
on yahoo if you want that doesn't let me know who you are. send it on.
"The internet has made "lazy" research so very easy"
That very thing happens non-stop at this blog by a certain internet queen...
Not that I expect it will be remembered beyond this post itself, it is pretty obvious that readers know little about Jews and Judaism more than what they are given to think about, primarily by those who need someone to blame for all of the troubles in the world. http://www.jewishboston.com/Ask-A-Rabbi/blogs/6883-ask-a-rabbi-how-is-the-jewish-community-organized
When it comes to the religion of Judaism, there are basic lessons based on the Bible, known to Christians as the Old Testament. From there on it's commotion. Utopians knew the religion would be hard to remove from having an effect on morality started to destroy it from the inside in the late 1780s. Until then the Jewish community was held together by what is now called Orthodox Judaism. They began by pulling Jews away from the main group under the label Reform. When that didn't work they started another branch called Conservative. All this can be found in the books written by Rabbi Antelman. Well Jews, being a stiff-necked people, didn't want to give up leadership. Now we have many different religiously bound together groups in the Orthodox community as well as the liberal ones with names like Reconstructionist, Humanist, etc.
t's interesting that the site comes out of Boston where there is a famous doggeral.
And this is good old Boston,
The home of the bean and the cod,
Where the Lowells talk only to Cabots,
And the Cabots talk only to God.[2][3]
Like Christian Protestants, many of the Jewish groups think they are the only ones who speak to God, that their interpretations are the best of all. The Orthodox, the very conservative religious and political group, don't associate much with the other groups. The Reconstructionists, it seems to me, are very New Age, even though they adapt the customs and garb or the Orthodox. Their formation came out of a very, very liberal political group. Since Jews stay among thinkers similar to their own ideas, they have no idea what is going on among other groups of Jews. Only when ugly antisemitism rears its head to they start to band together.
Then those who want more information can go to http://www.jewishboston.com/community_directory where 615 secular organizations are listed by their interests. There are larger organizations composed of groupings, but there is no one overall group where all groups belong. It's laughable when one Jew is expected to answer for all Jews when attacked for being a Jew. No one would expect a Southern Baptist to explain and defend all Catholic beliefs for instance, yet this is what all Jews are expected to do regarding other Jews.
anon 10:37
thank you.
MCE that is laughable that you say thanks to that 10:37 AM post. You are one guilty of that very thing in your "othrodoxy"! We know your true colors......
anon 12:16
your hatred either blinds you to the fact that that person said pretty much the
same thing I did in a different way, or else emboldens you to lying slander.
Maybe you should read that book recommended to me and figure out what causes
YOUR behavior here.
Here's anti-Semitic fairy story designed to mock anti-Semites:
once upon a time there were two kingdoms, one had not enough
rain and the other had too much rain. The peoples of the
kingdoms blamed their respective Jewish populations for the
drought and the rain. The two kings being wise (after the
manner of wisdom displayed in Monty Python and the Holy Grail)
got together and decided they must have two different species
of Jew, one which causes drought and one which causes flooding.
So they decided that they would swap their respective Jewish
populations. The ones who caused drought would be sent to
the overly rainy place, and the ones who caused rain would be
sent to the not enough rain place.
and they all lived happily ever after.
you people who get bent out of shape about my attitude about
my biological so called mother and falsely say I just brought
her up out of the blue, should go read the 2012 blogs. The
earliest I think I ever mentioned her was in a context of the
subject of witchcraft where the subject of her tendencies began
to be phased in. Maybe slightly earlier but I couldn't find
anything. AGAIN IT WAS IN A CONTEXT NOT FOR ITS OWN SAKE.
As for where I live, I no longer live anywhere near Stanford,
more like across the state, and I only lived where I did because
I grew up around there. I never attended and had a gut level
dislike of the place and the sort of people frat trash and all
that seemed to be there. When I made that decision in 1969 I
didn't know anything about the New Age or whatever was going on
of that sort. Frankly, being in the middle of such an environment
probably made my biological socalled mother's hypnotic influence
capability stronger and my own chronic trance states then more,
well, chronic.
C. S. Lewis' Screwtape once said that instead of putting stuff in
peoples' heads, the demons do a lot of work by keeping stuff OUT
of peoples' heads, and that sort of thing definitely went on.
What is not to like is that you talking out of both sides of your mouth, Christine Erikson.
Your posts prove you a raving hypocrite and your reputation precedes you.
But your personal darkness does not belong here MCE.
Neither does your new age bent in thinking and talking about it, such as you just showed us in your 1:32 PM post.........again.
Get yourself to a shrink then, since you won't actually, prayerfully, read the Bible, seek the Lord's help, and apply it to your own life. Christ can still take care of demons. They appear to have never left you, just morphed to some religious variety, but you think yourself cured of them, when you obviously are not.
oh really? you consider that believing witchcraft or psychic attack
or whatever is real is "New Age?" YOU CAN CLASS THE BIBLE AS NEW
AGE THEN. you can dismiss all spiritual warfare and all efforts to
get rid of anything occultic that might have some curse or influence
on it and get it out of your house as New AGe.
MAYBE YOU ARE A SATANIST WHO WANTS PEOPLE TO THINK IT IS ALL
SUPERSTITIOUS NONSENSE AND THEY CAN FOLLOW WHATEVER BLURRING STATE
OF MIND OR DARK TRANCE OR WHATEVER THAT DOESN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC
LUST OR THEFT OR MURDER ANGLE ON IT WITHOUT QUESTION BECAUSE
SUPPOSEDLY NOTHING SUPERNATURAL BUT GOD EXISTS. And once you
claim Christ you got nothing to worry about?
Or maybe you are just a materialistic secularized quasi Christian.
whatever. you are to be pitied at best, certainly not respected.
your hatred of the subject reminds me of my biological so called
mother, who considered worshipping Jesus was idolatrous and
doubted life after death and denied the devil existed. Maybe you
are in her same league.
oh, yeah, on two occasions she ran. One time when I said
"Jesus is the overlord" and she groaned and ran. The
other time I said to the air "satan I bind you in Jesus'
Name" because there was this intense arguing going on
involving everyone in the room, and she turned and
scuttled up the hall. Apparently so interfaced to the
devil that when he (or a representative part of his
kingdom) ran she ran also.
Ephesians 6:11,12, 16
"Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against
the wiles of the devil.
"For we wrestle NOT AGQAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, but against principalities,
against power, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against
spiritual wickedness in high places.....
"Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to
quench all the fiery darts of the wicked." checking biblehub.com
most translations says "evil one" or "wicked one."
I suppose you are the one who ignorantly (or worse) said I was slandering
good women of the middle ages or whatever back in those posts.
And they didn't just grab herbal healers and persecute them
back then. herbal medicine was regular use including by
monks who kept medicinal herb gardens. the herbs famously
connected with witches were primarily good for doing harm.
here's something relevant to the spiritual side of the New Age
issue (which whoever was disappointed not to have more political
focus, which is strictly the fleshly side of it will probably
dislike)
http://www.gregoryreid.com/confused-by-an-angel-the-roma-downey-dilemma/
the argument back and forth about what role if any spiritualizm
played in Hort and Wescott and others misses a critical issue.
(either it is taken for granted by the writers, who ASSUME others
recognize this, or it is not considered.)
It is not whether these or other people deliberately, consciously,
followed orders or doctrines from mediums, cults or spirits.
The issue, that during their time in the occult scene, what attached
itself to them,
and left some key flaw
either introduced, or already existing but exacerbated and redirected?
what connection could pass as either God or their own wisdom?
What BLIND SPOT was introduced or reinforced?
Wescott and Hort had an irrational bias against the Textus Receptus.
I wonder where that came from. It was an intense hatred, not exactly
unbiased objective truth seeking scientific minded.
Sure it isn't perfect, but they went for the more imperfect on
ridiculous lines of thought, and their detractors of the Ruckmanite
(King James is inspired as a translation, and corrects all errors
in Greek and Hebrew so don't even bother with Greek and Hebrew)
sort make the issue look ridiculous (and Ruckman had his own demon
problems and I don't mean metaphorical).
Now this may seem offtopic, though some here will consider the NEw
Age is to blame for bad translations (to some extent it is). But
the reason for this, is that the lesson learned by observing both
sides of this craziness can be applied where you see this going on
in ANY situation.
So they don't have the sense to consider, that the Byzantine Text
type by definion arose in the locations the NT originals were at.
Or that the more used the less survives and has to be copied while
the less used and survives probably was despised.
But why such an intense bias before any research to begin with?
Why would watering down doctrine type phrasing be acceptable to them,
instead of a red flag?
Since the person who calls me "new age" has finally outed him or
herself as meaning by this, that recognizing paranormal reality
is "new AGe" I guess maybe I can ignore him or her for the most
part, because everyone will now see what a liar and materialist
motivated person this is. Having OUTED YOURSELF as an unbeliever
in the plain word of God and experience of many in calling on
Jesus' Name against such things, you have no credibility. Or
shouldn't have in anyone's mind.
Just where do you think you are? this blog is about spiritual and
political directed by spiritual evil. there is no room for your
double tongued nonsense here.
you would label those who fight the new age as new age if they
step into the realm of exorcism and recognizing and fighting
the deceptions of the enemy. you are quite clever in your twists
and turns like a snake and like Arius and other heresiarchs.
it is likely you are the same person who has (or by backchannel
chatter suggested) that I needed to focus on forgiveness (I already
said that I pray for my biological so called mother's soul now
and then and I think I said that I do not resent her for hating
me as she likely did for the trauma of the difficult birth, likely
a breech birth, but for how she chose to act it out, not the less
harmful rejection but the more harmful smothering) and then
repeatedly despised the words of Jesus Christ that when someone
will not repent you are to reject and avoid them like a heathen
or rip off tax collector or keeper of tavern of sleazy entertainment
aka publican.
you have outted yourself as new ager of the materialist category.
Spiritual warfare is a fact.
The Bible is full of examples of that and how the power of God moves through believers to conquer it.
You are not a living testament to this, however.
You invited the demonic to your life years ago and are not shed of it.
You are full of bitterness, anger, and malice toward your mother and then from there outward into other places with other people. So you can't claim this is spiritual warfare. Your new age bent on these topics prove you do not actually trust God-you trust your own way to deal with these things and that is why you have no power with God to get this changed. And this is key from the Word and what you need to put into practice (this cannot be lipservice)...........
............Psalm 66:18 says: if I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me.
That war is within you.
Let God clean your "temple" since you say you are a believer in Christ Who overcame in our behalf.
That would solve your many hatreds and let the power of God come by faith to your heart by the Blood of Christ to flow through and from your life and even into your words here.
WHAT DID JESUS SAY REGARDING THOSE CONFRONTED WITH
THEIR SINS AGAINST YOU WHO WILL NOT REPENT?
HE SAID TO REJECT THEM. To let them be to you as a
tax collector and a public.
DESPISED, LOATHED MONSTROSITIES IN THE VIEW OF ALL
WHO HE ADDRESSED.
As for directing malice outward elsewhere, I have been
VERY CHARITABLE, ascribing stupidity and ignorance
instead of malice. But I have reluctantly come to the
conclusions malice is there so I call you out and the
others as malicious.
And if you think that being thought stupid or ignorant
is more awful than being thought to be evil, then you
got a major sin of pride problem you need to deal with.
And so all of the information I posted disappears in the fields of the writing of Christine. That's why so little of value is posted here.
this is worth a repost.
Anonymous said...
Not that I expect it will be remembered beyond this post itself, it is pretty obvious that readers know little about Jews and Judaism more than what they are given to think about, primarily by those who need someone to blame for all of the troubles in the world. http://www.jewishboston.com/Ask-A-Rabbi/blogs/6883-ask-a-rabbi-how-is-the-jewish-community-organized
When it comes to the religion of Judaism, there are basic lessons based on the Bible, known to Christians as the Old Testament. From there on it's commotion. Utopians knew the religion would be hard to remove from having an effect on morality started to destroy it from the inside in the late 1780s. Until then the Jewish community was held together by what is now called Orthodox Judaism. They began by pulling Jews away from the main group under the label Reform. When that didn't work they started another branch called Conservative. All this can be found in the books written by Rabbi Antelman. Well Jews, being a stiff-necked people, didn't want to give up leadership. Now we have many different religiously bound together groups in the Orthodox community as well as the liberal ones with names like Reconstructionist, Humanist, etc.
t's interesting that the site comes out of Boston where there is a famous doggeral.
And this is good old Boston,
The home of the bean and the cod,
Where the Lowells talk only to Cabots,
And the Cabots talk only to God.[2][3]
Like Christian Protestants, many of the Jewish groups think they are the only ones who speak to God, that their interpretations are the best of all. The Orthodox, the very conservative religious and political group, don't associate much with the other groups. The Reconstructionists, it seems to me, are very New Age, even though they adapt the customs and garb or the Orthodox. Their formation came out of a very, very liberal political group. Since Jews stay among thinkers similar to their own ideas, they have no idea what is going on among other groups of Jews. Only when ugly antisemitism rears its head to they start to band together.
Then those who want more information can go to http://www.jewishboston.com/community_directory where 615 secular organizations are listed by their interests. There are larger organizations composed of groupings, but there is no one overall group where all groups belong. It's laughable when one Jew is expected to answer for all Jews when attacked for being a Jew. No one would expect a Southern Baptist to explain and defend all Catholic beliefs for instance, yet this is what all Jews are expected to do regarding other Jews.
10:37 AM
Sure, now ride someone else's coattails some more besides Constance Cumbey's, Christine. You want their credit because your credibility has been in a ditch for a long long time.
You are despicable in this type of behavior.
And wow does it show........
no you despicably malicious jammer of this blog, and since
when do you or anyone do anything BUT ride on others' coattails?
all rely on the predecessors who provided information to build on.
This was in response to a complaint which I thought might be
from this poster, that "all of the information I posted disappears in the fields of the writing of Christine. That's why so little of value is posted here."
So I thought I'd repost this. It IS important, and backs up in its way
what I said drawing on other sources.
I said right up front this is not mine but is a report and showed the
poster as anonymous, something I never am.
you are despicable in your slander. it is you who have no credibility AND SINCE
WHEN DOES HAVING A FOLLOWING ESTABLISH WHAT IS TRUE OR FALSE?
You are not the blog savior or hall monitor or any other anything, in your thousands upon thousands upon thousands of words!!!!!!!!!
So it won't work to act like it is me, or any we, who jam this blog. That is on your shoulders exclusively....... and copying and pasting that post won't fix all what you yourself undo here. Messages get lost in the morbundity of your serial postings!
You're killing it. Plain and simple.
Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy fits pretty close to what you do here at this blog.
ALL of the posts I've had to make to refute your nonsense was
YOUR fault, in reponse to you anons and others who were
requested by Constance to NOT post more than one Christine
(not Christina with an a) bashing post a day.
Poor you.
It's about you.
Miss can make it sick and fix it too.
Yep.
You are the "life" of this blog.
You don't have to respond Christine!
Christine, individuals humans may seem to be good or bad or somewhere in between as seen by other. Utopians, communists, socialists believed that each human came into existence in a body which was formed by experiences as time went on. They believe their work is to turn individuals in the community into the original untouched by experiences perfect beings. It's more complicated than that as the thoughts pass through hundreds and hundreds of different minds. You add experience with the supernatural world into the mixture individuals experience. Unless I am mistaken you seem to believe the supernatural aspects can and do control the total personality and do not need to act through the physical realm.
You are screaming out to others hoping they will see you and understand you as a truly good person who is trying to help others through what you've learned and your experiences. It's not working as you can see.
All of us have had to change as experiences in our lives hardened or softened us. Change may be hard for you, but it's your only release.
I have been through a lot of changes and much remorse.
" Unless I am mistaken you seem to believe the supernatural aspects can and do control the total personality"
not control unless allowed to do so and usually don't come unless sought for,
OR some door is open perhaps unknowingly opened and may consist of a relative
especially ancestor especially if living on site with you, and not "total personality."
"and do not need to act through the physical realm."
in some cases definitely are not so limited. If by physical realm you mean that
they influence someone's values and attitudes, who then, as part of the physical
realm, affects you. I don't want to go into examples. Both occur of course.
The paranormal presence will ramp up the intensity and cunning of whatever evil
is going on that is otherwise just part of the physical realm.
"You are screaming out to others hoping they will see you and understand you"
I am not trying to be "viewed" as something (but I object to being falsely
styled) my goal is to get attention on issues that tend to get suppressed.
"as a truly good person"
oh, please. Only God is totally good. I do not like efforts to derail issues onto
me and off the issues.
"who is trying to help others through what you've learned and your experiences."
only where that is relevant to theirs. And far more people than post here read
here, because my blog has over 40,000 total visits in several years, yet only
a couple of comments other than my own adding to an article I forgot I could edit.
So if that is typical, there is a far bigger audience here than ever speaks. That includes audience of your antics.
Well said 9:18 pm!
Anonymous 10:37 A.M.
Excellent analysis of modern Judaism! You are right, Christine. It deserved a repost! Thank you!
The aforementioned Rabbi Marvin Antelman's book TO ELIMINATE THE OPIATE gives an excellent overview of the forces attempting to undermine orthodox Judaism.
Here is a link to Volume 1 of Rabbi Antelmann's two-part book.
TO ELIMINATE THE OPIATE
www.barrychamish.com/.../Antelman_To_Eliminate_the_Opiate_vol1.pdf
Well 9:18, there are a lot like you in the world. You immediately recognize evil when you hear about it. Perhaps you could sell yourself out as an evil dowsing rod. "Dowsing is a type of divination employed in attempts to locate ground water, buried metals or ores, gemstones, oil, gravesites, and many other objects and materials without the use of scientific apparatus." You could be an evil dowsing rod without any intellectual input. Good money could be made in that business. Smell, taste, feel, sense, or "just know" would work for those already conditioned. You would just be verifying their thinking and so could get away with it.
As for me I've read books about the individuals who fail in prophecy about businesses, inventions, individuals, etc. and I would never try it. Over the years I've taken the time to try to understand the who, what, when, where and why people are attracted to things I find foolish. Doesn't mean I will agree with them. I just want to know what suckers them in and help them to understand the routes that got them there. For some reasons shouting "You are stupid," "You are wrong," "You are evil," doesn't work for me. I guess I just don't have enough authority credentials.
Anonymous 9:18 was a response to 8:54. Birds of a feather and all that.
Christine is the one to consult with about the divination stuff 9:15 PM. She is very current about it all.
from Christine: "I have beenVERY CHARITABLE, ascribing stupidity and ignorance
instead of malice". So we are to buy that?
She ascribes much malice along with all the other wrong things she is ascribing to people whose only crime is disagreeing with her.
So knock yourself going along with the trash she posts here but seriously you should go back and reread through Christine's posts (can you actually stomach that?) and notice her attitude and words to folks here and see why she is bringing trouble to herself, but mainly to this blog.
Christine wants to redeem herself by the repost but that is the wink and nod for her to continue the same tactics that draw ire in the first place. How special...
"The issue, that during their time in the occult scene, what attached
itself to them,
and left some key flaw "
Yes, Christine that is exactly what you need to address in your own personal life.
Cut to the chase and quit beating us over the head with it in explaining it and take the cure. His name is Jesus.
So some here don't mind the psycho-babble snake oil (very New Age) of Christine Erikson?
I'm in the wrong spot. I thought this place was where New Age indoctrinations are exposed and repudiated.
Many times you can learn much about the ongoing infiltration of New Age ideas into common culture by reading the headlines at
http://badblue.bitnamiapp.com/trendr1.htm a conservative headline site where I found
http://blurbrain.com/corporation-of-tabloid-that-dished-dirt-on-duggars-also-publishes-porn-for-neo-nazis/
http://www.thewrap.com/touch-tabloid-publisher-mired-tom-cruise-lawsuit-trades-nazis-porn-and-sometimes-both-exclus/
Attacking moral people who had a failure done by those who find Nazi porn acceptable as long as it brings in dollars. A very big corporation.
Deserves a repost don't you think?
And so we thank you, Christine for this exerpt of your many great posts.
"oh really? you consider that believing witchcraft or psychic attack
or whatever is real is "New Age?" YOU CAN CLASS THE BIBLE AS NEW
AGE THEN. you can dismiss all spiritual warfare and all efforts to
get rid of anything occultic that might have some curse or influence
on it and get it out of your house as New AGe.
MAYBE YOU ARE A SATANIST WHO WANTS PEOPLE TO THINK IT IS ALL
SUPERSTITIOUS NONSENSE AND THEY CAN FOLLOW WHATEVER BLURRING STATE
OF MIND OR DARK TRANCE OR WHATEVER THAT DOESN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC
LUST OR THEFT OR MURDER ANGLE ON IT WITHOUT QUESTION BECAUSE
SUPPOSEDLY NOTHING SUPERNATURAL BUT GOD EXISTS. And once you
claim Christ you got nothing to worry about?
Or maybe you are just a materialistic secularized quasi Christian.
whatever. you are to be pitied at best, certainly not respected.
your hatred of the subject reminds me of my biological so called
mother, who considered worshipping Jesus was idolatrous and
doubted life after death and denied the devil existed. Maybe you
are in her same league."
Now how on earth could this be deemed malicious since it is coming from Christine?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Joseph_Egan
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0iiNHBPFs6A
https://qjew.wordpress.com/tag/saul-alinsky/
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=481bgi5Du0s
"She ascribes much malice along with all the other wrong things she is ascribing to people whose only crime is disagreeing with her."
its the reasons you occasionally give and the tendency to go on the attack
no matter what I post and then whichever anon outted himself as unbiblically
denying the reality of the supernatural. a real Sadducee.
"Attacking moral people who had a failure" how typically new age to dismiss
something this serious as a "failure."
"one by those who find Nazi porn acceptable as long as it brings in dollars"
people like that like to catch Christians and conservative moralists when
there is a serious fall to call them hypocrites. When such people yell hypocrite
what they mean is that no attempt should be made to be moral just live openly
immoral, when The Bible refers to hypocrites it is saying they should clean up
their act and be more moral.
10:09 repost of my calling some anon out
"Now how on earth could this be deemed malicious since it is coming from Christine?"
the malice I refer to is the ongoing hatred towards me regardless of what
I post, based it seems on my being "new Age" by recognizing the existence of
paranormal evil not just regular human evil, and of course the unbiblical demand
for forgiveness of the unrepentant (and if alive an ongoing danger much less so
now she is dead but entirely harmless, I woke up over 4 years ago she was barely
visible crouching over me and some astral board pressing inside my chest on my heart. THIS WAS NOT
A SENSE OF WEIGHT IN THE CHEST it was like if you put a board on a balloon and
flatten the balloon I threw her off with my mind probably started praying, this
was before I moved into a blue house blue is a standing prayer to the God of Heaven
i.e., YHWH and is entity repellant or at least weakens them. demons can very very
rarely manage to use blue.)
you can see the malice when I post something no one would object to the litany
starts up demanding forgiveness of her, denouncing me in various terms occasionally
accusing me of being new age.
originally I was told I didn't understand the new age, the accuser refused to give his or her interpretqation of it, and the political spiritual mix definition I gave
was denounced as ignorant despite it being Constances' Wikipedia's and most others
definition.
"its the reasons you occasionally give and the tendency to go on the attack
no matter what I post and then whichever anon outted himself as unbiblically
denying the reality of the supernatural. a real Sadducee."
And so you are wrong again. Having no idea what I believe but loudly proclaim that you do. Very loose cannon way to go there MCE ;).
The particular point about the supernatural is not what I even disagreed with but you went on to judge me as a person anyway.
Just how on earth can your "experiences" and condescending attitude possibly help people, especially, when you use a ruler in one hand and a hatchet in the other, approach?
I bring up your miscreant behavior and ask how does that jive with being christian?
I ask how you can dabble in so much of the darkest details of the demonic and consider yourself clean and clear of it's influence (even describing episodes of questionable thinking and behaving in yourself) topped off with your unforgiving attitude towards people in general? Not only do you sound worse than a clanging cymbal, but you veer from the Bible's authority to "interpret for us" where you have no authority at all, and manipulate topics (and our words and not yours to twist) to keep yourself readied for the next barage of things to force your opinions-not facts. I'll remain anonymous for this very reason because you attack people not ideas. You want context? The Bible has the thought and context for this subject I am speaking to--let your words be few. God is in heaven and you are on the earth. Let that sink in will ya?
So it is evident to any thinking person that you have let your mind be a nest for many a foul bird, by our own admissions. Yes, I do believe in the supernatural and you display ugly spiritual tendencies much and often at the slightest perturbance by anyone who does not agree with you.
It gets you nowhere near any actually honest relating with people on a level that adds to discussion in the important subject this blog should be talking about-not your experiences-that we can't qualify in reality anyway. How bogus can you get with this way of being and doing since it is so dishonest and uncivil?
No, you diminish all that-even stop it cold-on a blog Not Yours.
"the malice I refer to is the ongoing hatred towards me regardless of what
I post, based it seems on my being "new Age" by recognizing the existence of
paranormal evil not just regular human evil, and of course the unbiblical demand
for forgiveness of the unrepentant (and if alive an ongoing danger much less so
now she is dead but entirely harmless, I woke up over 4 years ago she was barely
visible crouching over me and some astral board pressing inside my chest on my heart. THIS WAS NOT
A SENSE OF WEIGHT IN THE CHEST it was like if you put a board on a balloon and
flatten the balloon I threw her off with my mind probably started praying, this
was before I moved into a blue house blue is a standing prayer to the God of Heaven
i.e., YHWH and is entity repellant or at least weakens them. demons can very very
rarely manage to use blue.)"
Another demonic episode courtesy of Mary Christine Erikson.
I don't personally like how Christine's personal problems get in the way of discussion, and I mean more than factual information about New Age infiltration. Only Constance could solve that problem and she doesn't care to any more than Democrats care to solve the problem of excessive government welfare. It's much easier to appear giving. Yet on the part of the posters here solving the problem doesn't appear to be a priority. Christine has her own obstacles she can't seem to overcome. Yet I find myself at this point remembering the wise advice that goes "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." We all are not perfect human beings. We all have our own obstacles. How can we be better Christians and still solve the problems of humanity?
Constance,
Isn't it time for an intervention here?
Look at all those posts from Christine on this thread!!!!
The whole comments section is a war zone between Christine and her opponents.
As a Christian that I believe you are, would it not be in Christine's best interest to ban her from this blog??¿ Or at the very least, delete all her posts over the one per day limit?
How healthy is it for Christine to spend her entire waking day on her bottom, in front of the computer?
You live in California Christine, take to the streets, the whole state is full of New Age people!!!! Enjoy the sunshine. Get some fresh air!!!!
Constance. Please rescue your blog. But rescue Christine first!
http://www.theminimalists.com/internet/
For Christine if she was not a deliberate troll sent by Stanford U.
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/04/14899/
"I want to warn America to expect severe erosion of First Amendment freedoms if the US Supreme Court mandates same-sex marriage. The consequences have played out in Canada for ten years now, and they are truly Orwellian in nature and scope.
Canada’s Lessons
In Canada, freedoms of speech, press, religion, and association have suffered greatly due to government pressure. The debate over same-sex marriage that is taking place in the United States could not legally exist in Canada today. Because of legal restrictions on speech, if you say or write anything considered “homophobic” (including, by definition, anything questioning same-sex marriage), you could face discipline, termination of employment, or prosecution by the government."
I don't know anything about the witherspoon Institute, so if it has some New Age
angle of its own don't yell at me I don't generally check these things before
I post something that is worthwhile somewhere.
Remember I said this gay marriage thing is kinda artificial (not the exact
word I used) that it is unnecessary and people can get all the legal
advantages of marriage with signed legal arrangements? and it is puzzling?
Well, if you erode free speech on the basis of this "Discrimination" and at
the same time erode religion on the same basis using the free speech erosion,
could be that CONSCIOUSLY and DELIBERATELY antichristian and specifically
pro new age people are at the root of this stuff. Because it can be a round
about attack on Christianity and support of new age interests in one blow,
to demand marriage equality. While on the face of it, the superficial SINGLE
issue, this doesn't seem to be the case, looked at closer WITH A VIEW TO
THE BIG PICTURE, it is exactly that.
obviously these are not just perverts willing to quietly live and let live,
they want ACCEPTANCE and APPROVAL, but while this could be hijacked to new
age political purposes it may be that this was the original purpose, some
real good chess player who was also a pervert.
looking at the growing trend to use law to oppose opposition
to gay marriage and to perversion in general, we may have
to take the tack of being anonymous as possible, and ship
materials from some fake return address that seems pro gay
or something and distribute at night with lookouts to be
sure no one spots flyers put out or posted. Bear this in
mind if things get much, much worse.
http://www.meetup.com/cities/us/ca/palo_alto/new-age-spirituality
go out today mce
see? there's an example of the slander. AND HOW IT COMES IN RESPONSE TO A POST
THAT NO ONE HERE WOULD DARE ARGUE WITH (whatever you do in secret). Thank you for
proving my point.
And I don't live anywhere near Palo Alto anymore.
now, relevant to a dispute some time back, here is the proof breznski deliberately
lured Russia into the Afghanistan war, in this interview he ADMITS that he predicted
this result of US actions and did not regret the effect but was glad of it.
Brzezinski Interview with Le Nouvel Observateur (1998)...
Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs that the American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahiddin in Afghanistan six months before the Soviet intervention. Is this period, you were the national securty advisor to President Carter. You therefore played a key role in this affair. Is this correct?
Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahiddin began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan on December 24, 1979. But the reality, closely guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I WROTE A NOTE TO THE PRESIDENT IN WHICH I EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT IN MY OPINION THIS AID WAS GOING TO INDUCE A SOVIET MILITARY INTERVENTION. [emphasis added throughout].
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into the war and looked for a way to provoke it?
B: It wasn’t quite like that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, BUT WE KNOWINGLY INCREASED THE PROBABILITY THAT THEY WOULD.
Q : When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against secret US involvement in Afghanistan , nobody believed them . However, there was an element of truth in this. You don’t regret any of this today?
B: REGRET WHAT?
THAT SECRET OPERATION WAS AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
IT HAD THE EFFECT OF DRAWING THE RUSSIANS INTO THE AFGHAN TRAP AND YOU WANT ME TO REGRET IT?
The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter, essentially: “We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war." Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war that was unsustainable for the regime , a conflict that bought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.
Q: And neither do you regret having supported Islamic fundamentalism, which has given arms and advice to future terrorists?
B : What is more important in world history? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some agitated Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
Q : “Some agitated Moslems”? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today...
B: Nonsense! It is said that the West has a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid: There isn’t a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner, without demagoguery or emotionalism. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is t h ere in com m on among fundamentalist Saudi Arabia , moderate Morocco, militarist Pakistan, pro-Western Egypt, or secularist Central Asia? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries...
http://dgibbs.faculty.arizona.edu/brzezinski_interview
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=nationalities_working_group
1977-1981: Nationalities Working Group Advocates Using Militant Islam Against Soviet Union
Edit event
In 1977 Zbigniew Brzezinski, as President Carter’s National Security Adviser, forms the Nationalities Working Group (NWG) dedicated to the idea of weakening the Soviet Union by inflaming its ethnic tensions. The Islamic populations are regarded as prime targets. Richard Pipes, the father of Daniel Pipes, takes over the leadership of the NWG in 1981. Pipes predicts that with the right encouragement Soviet Muslims will “explode into genocidal fury” against Moscow. According to Richard Cottam, a former CIA official who advised the Carter administration at the time, after the fall of the Shah of Iran in 1978, Brzezinski favored a “de facto alliance with the forces of Islamic resurgence, and with the Republic of Iran.” [Dreyfuss, 2005, pp. 241, 251 - 256]
Entity Tags: Richard Pipes, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Nationalities Working Group
Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline, US International Relations, Neoconservative Influence, War in Afghanistan
http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/eBooks/Articles/1904%20HEARTLAND%20THEORY%20HALFORD%20MACKINDER.pdf
SCROLL DOWN FOR THE WHOLE ARTICLE, THIS IS WHAT BREZINSKI AND CO. ARE
FOLLOWING.
Christine, you are not unique. You are just another flawed human. We know that. Who cares about your last posts? How m any people will read them and follow up? Without followup, input and discussion it's just a bunch of words. Responding to you is just charity work on the part of others. The internet has hundreds of thousand sites that are full of such information in a much more intelligent context? You are sharing nothing of value and don't know that? Go and help people who live in a shelter or find some other kind of volunteer work? Go find that book through interlibrary loan. Do you even know what the inside of a library looks like these days? It's as if you put a word into an internet search, find something and say WOW! You could put the words chop suey into a search and see something you feel you can post here. I'm out of here for another couple of months at least. I'll do some charity elsewhere.
Foundations plan to pay news media to cover radical UN agenda (Agenda 21)
The United Nations Foundation created by billionaire Ted Turner, along with a branch of media giant Thomson Reuters, is starting to train a squadron of journalists and subsidize media content in 33 countries—including the U.S. and Britain--in a planned $6 million effort to popularize the bulky and sweeping U.N.-sponsored Sustainable Development Goals, prior to a global U.N. summit this September. where U.N. organizers hope they will be endorsed by world leaders.
The unprecedented media push is formally intended to start on May 25 but is already underway. It is intended to help breathe some new life into a sprawling U.N. effort--supported by, among others, the Obama administration--to create a global social and environmental agenda for the next 15 years.
It is taking place in parallel with an equally strong but unrelated media cheerleading push by supporters of strong climate change action to help set in stone a new global greenhouse gas emissions treaty at a Paris summit in December.
http://tinyurl.com/krl9vx2
Dave in CA
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jjIMoaUBHB0
Eliminating poverty and violence means eliminating the poor and people who try to survive. For news just google and hit the news button for anthrax, ebola, flu, avion flu, food poisioning etc. Just saw an add on craigslist for IT data workers for disasters coming soon like "avion flu". I imagine Turner in his office watching the numbers in real time. God is watching too. On the other hand CBN likes Ted.
http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/biblestudyandtheology/perspectives/carey_ted_turner.aspx
Most people who are awake already know their regional planning boards by now, loyalists to the bank and fake shortages of resources managers, global warming alarmists, recycling freaks as well as massive transportation boondoggle pushers, we know them. They usually show up in teams at common core meetings as well.
http://semcog.org/
http://www.politico.eu/article/cameron-europe-fight-ebola/
And Mr. A21has a say. (5 hrs ago)
The Nazi Spirit in the Arab World
thegoldenreport.net/?=1832
Colbert
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmhf6aetiyA
Weast
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uU5awHADEhE
Cash for work Isis displaced worker under Agenda 21
http://www.iq.undp.org/content/iraq/en/home/ourwork/crisispreventionandrecovery/successstories/cashforworkIraq/
I read about this is the New Schools documents which were promoted as the ideal schools. In my view the schools will simply act as reeducation camps, hospital, internet and all communications (monitored) kids education, food, daily work. They seem to enjoy the displacement of people. It just seems like turning people into beggers. We already have heard stories first hand about kids in MO taken out of class in public schools for dental care and an abortion without parents concent, and more. They have already been testing it.
Ask an Israeli about Zionist Christians (hint: they don't like them)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uMCV_fJR3X0
9:13 That is shamless propaganda for brainwashed American Zionist Christians.
http://therebelpath.com/2008/02/25/nazi-jews-yes-nazi-jews/
9:38 the first three are fine with Christian Zionists I didn't bother with
the rest not enough time. what is the problem? these first three at least
do not dislike Christian Zionists, they like anything good for Israel, what
do you expect? naturally they aren't into Christianity but there is no
hostility expressed.
the info on the Nazis and the grand mufti is "shameless propaganda?" can
you refute the photos and statements on it? facts are facts.
from the Jewish Nazi link
"Norman Finkelstein, a Jew, and the son of a Holocaust survivor, dared to write an excellent concise book, The Holocaust Industry, which while not going as far as the above video, dared to ask the question, “Who has benefited from all these Holocaust settlements?” He pointed out that his mother, had, to date, received approximately $250, while the super-rich front-men of the extortion operation like Edgar Bronfman [of Seagram & Sons] and Abe Foxman, the current head of the nefarious ADL organization, have made untold millions. Finkelstein’s reward? A smear campaign by the ADL to deny him tenure."
what do you expect of people with organized crime and bootlegging background?
NOTICE THESE RIP OFF ARTISTS ARE DEFRAUDING THEIR OWN PEOPLE, NOT US.
As for the rest, it is really screwed up. Trying to find false gods in the name
Israel ("IsRaEl") is totally false and linguistically ignorant. Egyptian isn't
a semitic language and ISRAEL IS FROM THE BIBLE, FROM GENESIS, THE NAME GOD GAVE
TO JACOB, and "el" isn't a name for Saturn, but the generic name for deity in
semitic languages and in the Bible is applied to YHWH. The nicest word to call
this is nonsense.
Jerry said, "these people who are led by the Nazi Spirit to destroy Israel – and all the Jewish people it becomes easy to see the master they serve."
Whom do Jews serve, the elites maybe?
and Jerry makes sweeping racist statements like:"Islamic Arabs are evil, that their plan for the world is to impose Sharia Law on mankind world wide." Jerry, who is behind multiculturalism and mass immigration?
http://thegoldenreport.net/?p=1832
Even Israelis don't like Arab haters like Jerry. Nazi spiritmis Lucifer spirit and it is everywhere anyway. God please save all peoples souls.
It's a game and God wins.
http://m.youtube.com/results?q=barbara%20spectre&sm=1
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uMCV_fJR3X0
Yes mce the video is clear he asks them all if these Zionist Christians hate muslims what do you say? Isrelis don't like it and only American Christians are targeted for brain washing to fear and hate muslims, maybe this has something to do with a certain war for a new world order, and a certain military being used? No thanks Jerry, shalom and may God have mercy on your soul.
"I have also said that I believe Jade Helm 15 is more than “just a training exercise,” and I think ISIS just gave us the clue."
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/did-isis-give-a-clue-about-jade-helm-15/#ad9gwYjSTGqY67AM.99
Will this nuclear temper tantrum come to the Americas again? Will Americans be filled with rage for Muslims if it does?
http://www.amazon.com/Trojan-Church-Gregory-R-Reid/dp/1606477331/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381016692&sr=8-1&keywords=trojan+church
http://www.amazon.com/Cry-In-The-Wilderness-Christian/dp/1466406720/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1381018160&sr=1-2
Anon 9:38 et al,
I've posted the below link before, and after reading it, I can't any way to come to the conclusion that the link between Nazism and Islam is, as you say, "shameless propaganda". It is one reason that I believe it's quite possible that the real antichrist may rise from a radical arm of Islam. Radical Islam worships a "god of force"... they want to force all into submission to their religion.
The following article was written in 2004, and explains the links between the "Green" of Islam, the "Brown" of Nazism, and the "Red" of Communism. It is quite an important article in the understanding of the current situation in the world.
Be careful in associating yourselves with anything anti-Zionist, anti-American or anti-Capitalist. Even with all good intentions, you could be one of those people that Paul Kengor calls "Dupes", which is the title of a recent book of his. (btw - Paul will be on Cliff Kincaid's Wednesday night program on his ROKU channel America's Survival. 9pm Eastern)
Article link:
http://blog.alexandredelvalle.com/archives/96-The-Reds,-The-Browns-and-the-Greens-or-The-Convergence-of-Totalitarianisms.html
Tinyurl:
http://tinyurl.com/6oef7m
Marko,
"and, at the same time, the charismatic leader of the English neo-Nazi movement, David Myatt, now become Abdul Aziz ibn Myatt, appeals to those nostalgic Axis members and to all enemies of the Zionists, to embrace with him the Jihad, the “true martial religion”"
I was just thinking about Myatt the other day wondering what he was up to.
I only glanced through the article so perhaps it includes this, but while
he leading a neo Nazi group, he was also a satanist who founded The Order of
Nine Angles or ONA which claimed that it advocated and engaged in human
sacrifice, but only targeted people with such socially inferior quality no
one should care anyway. (cowards for instance, a test is given they fail they
die and they don't know they are being tested, a scenario is set up,
according to their papers they published, whether this actually got done or
merely instructions as to selection of the "opfer" or victim were drawn up
is anyone's guess.)
last I heard of him back in the 1990s, he'd become a muslim and dropped out
of sight, at least as per the Internet.
"The majority of the extreme right is clearly turned towards the Arab-Muslim world, "
I am not surprised. studying the network I studied, I noticed that ibn Laden got
accolades from the American Front page which quieted down, perhaps due to the
purge done by the leader who got out of jail and took control. I can't recall his
name, a real bombthrower type, but always getting arrested for something so, thank
God, never got anything done much. I think he purged either the satanist element
per se, or the more incompetent element at least, which latter then went on to do
things that got my attention. Idiots sent someone with OCD after me - tires
loosened, two of them, on same side of car, TWICE. clutch cable cut, TWICE. oh yeah,
gotta do things in twos.
"an obsessive anti-Americanism that would not surprise the extreme left: “The military-industrial American complex, of which George W. Bush, that sociopath and notorious retard, is today the mouthpiece,...."
It wouldn't surprise me if some of the covert help to jihad from US sources
is precisely to make opposition to the military industrial complex, debt slavery
because of interest, and excessive aggression, look disreputable and even more
unchristian than usualy made out to be.
the same game was played in the 60's when the original opposition to USA in
Vietnam were respectables so the CIA ran out and created the counterculture,
so opposition to Vietnam was equated in the public mind with degeneracy, drugs
and drunkenness (and rock and roll).
http://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433802593&sr=8-1&keywords=laurel+canyon+dave+mcgowan
and other sources.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/raymond-ibrahim/turks-boast-of-historic-slaughter-and-rape-of-christians/?utm_source=FrontPage+Magazine&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6cb1b7589f-Mailchimp_FrontPageMag&utm_term=0_57e32c1dad-6cb1b7589f-157033169
mohammed mostly got his stuff because of some demon who got ahold of him.
however, he pulled stuff out of Old Testament, New Testament, Talmud
and probably local pagan and Zoroastrian related sources.
If you want to know who got the protestants to accept interest as not
ungodly and not a mortal sin (the real persuaders back of Calvin),
and persuaded the Roman Catholic church's more depraved renaissance
popes that interest was not ungodly and not a mortal sin, read Webster
Griffin Tarpley's Against Oligarchy free online at http://tarpley.net
the VENETIANS who track back to ancient Roman patrician families, or
some do, are at the root of the whole mess you think is Jewish!
Sure some Jews are involved, but the bulk of the game is not Jewish
and never has been. The Venetians took their game and metastasized
over to England the modern city of Venice is irrelevant.
Islam is the last Abrahamic religion to oppose interest usury used
to mean ANY degree of interest and Buddha and Plato wrote against it
also as abnormal. the Old Testament forbade interest bearing loans
to fellow Israelites, The Church argued that the new covenant being
more inclusive such a prohibition applied across the board.
the way an Islamic load goes is something like buying stock, you
lend money you own an interest and profit sharing in the company,
until they pay the loan back without interest. Mortgages used to
be of farming property, not houses. the lender took the property
and worked it and sold the results, until the borrower paid the
original loan back without interest. flat rate fees are another
matter.
ISIS WAS CREATED IN A US PRISON CAMP
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