UPDATE: NEWS FLASH
CNN news just announced (1-8-2013, 1:30 p.m.EST) that Disney World is now issuing "MAGICBANDS" to identify and track everybody there -- where they go, what they buy, etc. The announcer wisely said, "there's a creep factor there, too. Would you want everybody tracking your every move? The CNN talk show host, a man, said everything he does is already tracked so he guessed he wouldn't mind.
Like Brother Seraphim Rose (Fr. Seraphim Rose) was fond of saying, "It is later than you think. Hasten now to do the work of the Lord!"
Constance
Well, I'm cruising my private library again and found my long lost copy of THE FIRST GLOBAL REVOLUTION. That was a report to the Council of the Club of Rome by Club of Rome Co-Founder Alexander King and his associate Bernard Schneider. It was released in 1991, ten years after I began my expository work warning against the New Age Movement in all of its manifestations.
THE COMMON ENEMY OF HUMANITY IS MAN
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. In their totality and in their interactions these phenomena do constitute a common threat which demands the solidarity of all peoples. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap about which we have already warned, namely mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.
It is providential that the book was already part of my library. Used copies of it are selling for approximately $65 on Amazon and new ones for upwards of $215.00. Wonder why they aren't releasing it for mass publication? I think I can intelligently guess!
Stay tuned!
CONSTANCE
134 comments:
In case you were wondering about the New Age slant of that book, check this out from page 233 of THE FIRST GLOBAL REVOLUTION:
The imperative need now is to attempt to master and
stimulate technology within a human framework, so as to contribute to the general and sustainable
wellbeing of all peoples in this and succeeding generations, within a holistic, global and even
cosmic comprehension and to balance material advances by
cultivating social, moral and spiritual attributes.
Sounds distinctly "New Age" to me. How about you?
Constance
Constance - I came acrosss this PDF of the book. http://ia600408.us.archive.org/31/items/TheFirstGlobalRevolution/TheFirstGlobalRevolution.pdf
Other formats available - http://archive.org/details/TheFirstGlobalRevolution
A few pages are missing.
~ K ~
PDF page 86 displays the text you highlighted to us.
Original page in this edition - page 75.
~ K ~
Dear ~K~
Thank you for that link. The chart is even clearer than the one in the first edition I have. Also, the 1988 quote from the Duke of Edinburgh is very telling. I note with interest that one of my chief critics, "Sir" Martin Palmer was one of his chief advisors and presently claims to head a trillion dollar consortium of churches' moneys used for environmental causes. These snakes sure seem to slither together!
Constance
Left out of this report as far as I notice are little things like how a lot of stuff is driven by banking and other elites and regionalism is just a variation on empire. Everything is treated as the result entirely of spontaneous whatnot. the subclinical Nazi presence, personified in some Club of Rome membership, is also ignored. True, market forces ignore general interest potentially, but on the
other hand these forces are tweaked in bad directions by elites global and local which makes things worse.
If a redo of such a study was done, which brought deliberateness into play, the results (and targetted defined enemy) might be rather different. This is of course what, in a fragmented way, is being done by alternative researchers.
Ironically, some of the issues addressed would be helped by falling back on medieval and early Christian principles which attack pride, greed, ambition, wealth hoarding, ignoring of the poor, and also forbid taking any amount of interest on a loan. (temporary use of mortgaged goods or land until original debt repaid without interest or a flat one time fee would be the alternatives.)
UPDATE: NEWS FLASH
CNN news just announced that Disney World is issuing "MAGICBANDS" to identify and track everybody there -- where they go, what they buy, etc. The announcer wisely said, "there's a creep factor there, too. Would you want everybody tracking your every move? The CNN talk show host, a man, said everything he does is already tracked so he guessed he wouldn't mind.
Like Brother Seraphim Rose (Fr. Seraphim Rose) was fond of saying, "It is later than you think. Hasten now to do the work of the Lord!"
while the mark of the beast is obviously something easily visible not a chip, this technology could be used for tracking "disunity" elements like us Christians and rounding us up by some New Age Nazi regime.
Christina,
I DISAGREE with your interpretation. Tracking technology is clearly what is implied by the Biblical prophecies. It most likely would require some type of a chip for implementation.
My friendly warning to you and all is to err on the side of caution!
Constance
of course err on the side of caution, but The Bible really doesn't imply anything except that unless one can prove one has worshipped the antichrist one cannot legally engage in any kind of business or even buy at a store (or bazaar). For John to see this it would have to be visible, and you don't need anything but a tattoo.
A dry run in the form of a document certifying one had worshipped the emperor was done in a few cities in the Roman persecution times, something on the forehead or the hand, would have to be a tattoo or such mark.
"In" is the same as "on" if I come to you with some court document it may be balanced ON the palm of my hand, but it is normally described as IN my hand because carried in the hand. Nothing can be carried on the forehead unless taped on and a tattoo makes more sense.
you don't need high tech to mark people as part of a designated group or category, this is ancient tribal and cult stuff.
The beast is a man not a system. While high tech stuff would be handy for enforcement, it is not needed, and hopefully won't exist by then and a beast free black market might exist.
Also, the number or a symbol could be used and the number is not a designator of the wearer as one person distinct from all others, like the SSN, but as one of a group of people.
Yes err on the side of caution (and implants in animals have been known to cause cancer which is another argument against it, also various possible abuses and system failures and misreads, etc. can be used as arguments against this), but it is at most a distant prototype of something the modern antichrist forerunners (NAM) might indeed be wanting to have in place.
But remember, a colossal earthquake affecting the whole world comes before all that, around the end of Revelation chapter 6, after the fourth horseman. This kind of destruction would likely take down most of the modern stuff.
Christina,
The Earthquake is the 6th seal of Revelation, just before the 7th seal which includes the 7 last plagues -- basically punishment on the beast and his kingdom. The redeemed are shown standing in heaven between the 6th and 7 seals. The angel says to John, "who are these." John says, "Sir, thou knows." The angel then says that these are they which came OUT of great tribulation -- they have washed their robes in the blood of the lamb and have made them white. In essence, they will suffer no longer. The 7 last plagues biblically appear to be punishments on the beast and his kingdom. I would assume most of the technological work of the rebellion would have been completed by then.
The antichrist/beast, for sure is a man -- the Revelation prophecy is abundantly clear on that as are the Daniel and 2d Thessalonians are.
BUT, the beast uses and employs the technology and the system implementing it!
I think it is VERY VERY DANGEROUS to assure people that the computer implants can't be it.
Constance
I am not assuring I am just very dubious, and no reason a real evil thing, either dry run of this or some other evil couldn't be accomplished with it.
I think computer implants should be resisted, whether they are being developed to help the antichrist or not, whether he will use them or not.
But the same scenario could play out, high tech or low tech. For that matter, if it will be high tech, then you can't figure everything is safe if civilization is destroyed.
Revelation 13:16-17 explains that in order to exist economically – salary, buy food, pay taxes, and so on – everybody must take a mark on their forehead or hand. Other leaders are content to have their image on the currency, but Antichrist brands people. This is plausibly a microchip implant holding identity information, linked to your bank account in a cashless system. Perhaps it is an electronic ration card. Already pets are routinely chipped, we use credit cards for ever more transactions, and governments push for ID cards. Combining the three would end most black markets (including drugs), end all tax fraud, and end all robbery for cash in a system that, moreover, precludes identity fraud. Presumably you will have to swear allegiance to Antichrist to get the mark; it means that you are his, and God warns that you will end up in the same place as him (Rev 14:9-11). Perhaps this mark, together with a network of transceivers, is capable of informing the authorities where you are at all times, or even of doing you harm at the authorities’ command. It causes terrible skin rashes (Rev 16:2), perhaps due to a radioactive internal power supply which we are falsely assured will have no side-effects.
"the same scenario could play out, high tech or low tech. For that matter, if it will be high tech, then you can't figure everything is safe if civilization is destroyed."
I reckon that we are in for a re-run of World Wars 1 and 2 on a larger scale. Tremble at the magnitude of prophesied events for which those wars were simply a minor fulfilment. Suppose that there is a cataclysmic world war; today there are many possible flashpoints, and various possible antagonists (USA; EU: Islamics; Russia; China). Chaos is the result, worldwide, with a combinatio of hi-tech and lo-tech at once. Do you remember how WW1 was called "the war to end wars"? And how after that came the rise in one part of the world of a charismatic dictator who sought to rule the world by starting another war and aiming to annihilate the Jews...?
If this scenario is accurate, do not be too hasty to call any man soon rising the Antichrist: he might lie farther ahead.
Thank you, Anonymous.
Excellent comments!
Constance
Constance, what do you think about this?
From World Net Daily (01/08/13)...
TEXAS JUDGE FINALLY RULES ON MARK OF THE BEAST
A federal judge in Texas has issued a ruling that a student’s religious objections to wearing a badge from a school ID program that utilizes radio chips to identify students and faculty and monitor their movements are secular, and therefore, not a concern to the school or court.
“Plaintiff’s objection to wearing the Smart ID badge without a chip is clearly a secular choice, rather than a religious choice,” wrote U.S. District Judge Orlando Garcia in a case brought by the Rutherford Institute on behalf of student Andrea Hernandez, who has been attending John Jay High School in the Northside Independent School District in San Antonio.
“The accommodation offered by the district … removes plaintiffs religious objection from legal scrutiny all together.”
The court record shows that the Hernandez family “felt the chip in the badge was ‘the mark of the beast’ and had a religious objection to the ‘tracking’ of his daughter. Mr. Hernandez also believed that the card prohibited his daughters’ ‘rights’ as a student,” the judge wrote.
The family also objected to a deception suggested by the school, that Andrea would wear a badge like other students, but without a chip, because that would make it appear the family was part of the chip ID program.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/judge-finally-rules-on-mark-of-the-beast/
Constance,
Thank you SO MUCH for the info. regarding the "MAGICBANDS" !! We live without cable and never heard the news anywhere else, but will gladly share this terrible news with all of our friends. Any hopes our children had of one day visiting DISNEY destinations are now permanently gone, but that's okay. Maybe God is just preparing us for the future denials.
Yet, one can only guess how this too, will be twisted into a an "added perk" or "benefit".
THIS IS A MUST READ FOR EVERYONE!!
"666 will be embedded, its number hidden, into a chip which you will be forced to accept just as you would any vaccination."
Message date: 6-1-12
www.thewarningsecondcoming.com
The sheer bulk and frequency of the messages makes them dubious and there is nothing in them a devout and well read subconcious couldn't cobble together to deceive oneself with.
"Maria was told by Jesus that she is the 7th Messenger, the 7th Angel sent to reveal to the world the contents of the Seals in the Book of Revelation which can only be opened by the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ. He will open the Seals and reveal, in advance, the contents. Maria has to publish them as each Seal is opened. He has told her she is the end time prophet."
that doesn't sound right.
"At present Maria is receiving spiritual guidance from the Catholic Church."
I certainly hope so.
Given all the recent news hype about this years flu, it makes me wonder if this wasn't just "part of the NAM" plan.
Check these out, too:
"Their wicked plans also include a new global vaccination which will create disease all over the world"
(6-17-12)
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"Then there will be the introduction of a global vaccination, which will kill you, if you accept it" (10-13-12)
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"This vaccination will be a poison and will be presented under a global healthcare plan" (11-9-12)
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See www.thewarningsecondcoming.com
"He will, by the power of the occult, perform what will be seen to be cures for people who are terminally ill"
(12-30-12)
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"The Temple of God will be desecrated beyond recognition"
(1-1-13)
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"The Times ahead will be challenging for all Christians"
(1-4-13)
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"Satan will be bound during My Reign and will no longer deceive God's children" (12-19-12)
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www.thewarningsecondcoming.com
Again, only time will tell how accurate Maria's messages are....but so far they're been dead on. And I most definitely agree with Fr. Rose!!
Oops! I meant to say:
but so far they've been dead on.
Anony. 11:24 PM
By the way, let us remember the people mentioned in Revelation between the 6th and 7th Seals were holding palms---and palms are associated with martyrdom. Just look at old artwork depicting martyred saints. St. Philomena is one that comes to mind.
Pray this prayer daily:
O My Jesus you are the light of the earth
You are the flame that touches all souls
Your mercy and love knows no bounds
We are not worthy of the sacrifice you made by your death on the cross
Yet we know that your love for us is greater than the love we hold for you
Grant us O Lord the gift of humility so that we are deserving of your New Kingdom
Fill us with the Holy Spirit so we can march forth and lead your army
to proclaim the truth of your Holy Word and prepare our brothers and sisters
For the Glory of Your Second Coming on earth
We honour You
We Praise You
We offer ourselves, our sorrows, our sufferings as a gift to you to save souls
We love you Jesus
Have Mercy on all your children wherever they may be.
AMEN
That's a great prayer Anon. 8:28. Thanks!
Anonymous said...
THIS IS A MUST READ FOR EVERYONE!!
"666 will be embedded, its number hidden, into a chip which you will be forced to accept just as you would any vaccination."
Message date: 6-1-12
www.thewarningsecondcoming.com
11:01 PM
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On the About page at said website it says, "Jesus has told Maria that the messages have been revealed to her as The Book of Truth – the last series of Divine Messages being imparted to the world before The Second Coming and have been foretold in the Book of Daniel and the Book of Revelation. They are of divine origin and are given out of the pure love that God has for all his children."
In the Bible Rev. 22:18 it says, "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book."
There is much on this About page that does not ring true. Thank You for caring and sharing what you believe to be useful but I'm gonna try and keep my eyes on Jesus and not Maria.
~ K ~
Those still reading here need to understand again the connection between the Nazi movement and the New Age movement. I doubt very few reading here have done any research on the Nazi time period and how things changed over the years. Things don't just happen by chance. Circumstances are planned. The German community didn't have some kind of DNA in their genes which made them support the killings they did.
If this story doesn't chill your bones, knowing the other killing connections that have taken place, time to grow up.
http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_John_Noveske_mysterious_death_car_crash.html
Sitting on your buns waiting for end times isn't going to protect you from an evil government. There were Christians who did the same thing prior to WWI and WWII. There are very good reasons to live a good Christian life, but for protecting oneself against massive evil it won't work. It might help you hide from what is going on though, and as an escape, that can be good for you personally.
what do you suggest we do?
Anon 10:30
What an irresponsible thing to say for someone who thinks she's being so mature.
How the heck do you know that prayer won't work in this case ???
How the heck do you know how many people had their prayers answered during the Holocaust ???
Your atheistic slip is showing you self aggrandizing,
self important, silly person.
You've spouted this same line of faithless reasoning
before and I called you out then and I will again if need be.
You are at complete odds with God's Word when you
say that prayer won't help in the face of this great evil.
God is a perfect and righteous judge, always.
You see, through the lens of whatever history you've read, the times of the 1940's and you think that you understand what went on but you don't have any inkling of what was in the hearts of even one of those people. And you don't know the first thing about all the millions of people who didn't make it into your history book(s). What do you know about all the people who survived and how many of them prayed without ceasing to Jehovah God ? No stats for that.
It was a war, Dorothy. It was a World War; other known as "hell-on-earth".
You have no right or reason to declare sincere prayer to be ineffectual.
Besides that, what are you doing other than "sitting on your buns" writing comments ?
God is a righteous judge; always. AND his mercy endures forever.
Paul, do you think you and this generation discovered prayers can work? How many prayers does it take to change things? How many prayers are needed by the Christians over in Syria to change things? You want Jesus to be your nanny. Well, Jesus is saying You are on your own now; you are an adult; I will always be with you, but it is now time to see what you can do." He brought you into the world, raised you with advice and laws and now it is time to see what you can do with them.
It appears to me God has more respect for his children than you have respect for him.
No, I don't have to tell you what I am doing. Each person has to find his own way based on what he knows to be true. If yours stops at telling others to keep praying, I'm not going to tell you that you are wrong for yourself. Based on what I've learned, I know something else.
Paul, are you saying that all people who prayed had their prayers answered or that they didn't deserve to have their prayers answered for one reason or another that they didn't know about but that Jesus knew in his being? Are you saying that so many people didn't pray or pray enough to result in such mass killing? That those who didn't pray justified why they were killed?
Or maybe you are just telling people to trust in the government and pray at the same time, may the best side win?
Or maybe you are a stooge for the NWO people, keeping people pacified, using emotional methods you are sure will manipulate them because they already trust those methods.
Given that in the past you tried to bull about things going on in your town that weren't true but were just scare tactics used to make you appear knowledgeable, what are we to think!
Paul, I didn't see any reference to prayer being of no use in that original post, but merely that godly living won't necessarily save your hide, which the lives of martyrs can tell you.
There are more important things than staying alive.
I read once of an atheist who loved to tell of a woman in the firebombing in Dresden in WW 2, who was holding her baby up above her head out of reach of the flames and praying to God, but the flames rose and they died.
What never crossed the stupid atheist's mind, was that that was the best time for them to die - totally focussed on Jesus Christ.
He may not save your physical life, but will save you from spiritual death and resurrect you at the last day.
Now, what exactly were the fake events going on that person's town, I missed all this, what are you talking about?
As for your psychologically ignorant rant about not knowing what was going on with those WW2 people minds, sure a lot of praying probably did result in things being no worse than they were and Germany lost by the skin of its teeth, and the SS never died, US partnered with a lot of them for anticommunist and greed for knowledge reasons and because US-Brit elites were often on their side. If Hitler hadn't issued debt free currency they would probably have let him stay in power.
Yes we DO need to pay attention to gradualistic changes and directions and patterns and trends and take appropriate action.
influence while we can, fight the developments while we can, and if all hell breaks lose, run and hide or stand and die.
Someone must be watching this blog who is worried about too much information getting out. There is another game being played. I posted a comment. It didn't appear and I wondered why. Checking it out, I found it appeared way down the page after another article with its series of comments and not where it should have appeared. It appeared after the 9/22/12 article. There is no way I was looking at that previous article. I am reposting it in following this comment.
Anonymous said...
Do you really want to know how conservative opposition is so controlled? Ask yourself why all of those conservative talking heads never take you past themselves to websites that give out solid information about what is happening? Even here unless someone posts a link to another website in the comments section the advance of information drops with the lead article.
Get out there, find out what is going on and share it with as many people as you can, even though the going is hard. Use any lead to talk with strangers, friends, co-workers. Drop it if there is no interest at the time rather than irritate others. At the very least you will have given someone new information they can't ignore.
A friend gave me this lead which came from a Christian source, Brannon Howse's show http://www.worldviewweekend.com
http://sadhillnews.com/2010/07/16/liberty-slips-away
"Immigrant and South Dakota State Director, Kitty Werthmann, shares trends and truth. Kitty recognizes where America is headed because she lived under a regime that experienced a similar period in history..."
Everything we are going through was gone through at the time of the Nazis. Please share this link with as many people as you can. It may wake up a few people about this repeat of the New Age movement goals. Obama is just the "likeable" puppet for a much larger movement. Think how much Hitler was adored by the masses.
12:48 PM
How "good" that people care about all these issues about man's inhumanity to man but has anyone noticed that earth's history is a cumulative thing? Is that the best you've got? Ah yes, the Sovereignty of God pitted against man's responsibility question...
This whole thing is ramping up-because it will one day all wrap up-and it is soon rather than later.
God is "shouting" through the urgency of all these things so the issue (still) is why is God allowing all this? We humans can tend to lose the meaning there in the multitude of detailed issues and unwittingly reduce it to minutia all the while failing to see we are on the brink as we only "beat the air" to fight it all-broadly speaking-not calling upon God. This is to humanity's shame...
So...in the course of all of that we individually must choose about who we are going to believe--ultimately God or ourselves(our governing ideas-our belief system traditional biblical or new age("to put faith in faith")---our own wits. God Himself is forcing the choice, letting evil in us contributing personally to the world's ills (that needs the forgiveness of Christ Jesus the Only Provision for right standing with God the Judge) to antagonize (convict) us into that choice-and-He uses evil like a tool or an instrument in His Hand in the broad and general sense with all people.
It has to come to something-all this grief and wrestling on each generations plate. One Day God Himself will sew the whole matter up and we-if-we have not gotten right with Him-will find we were really working for the very evil we proposed we were against. So which is it? Each can answer that themselves as I am not the One to answer to.(Isaiah 53 deals with the scope of this issue for the each and for the all). If faith is rightly placed in the All Powerful God then the prayers of broken suffering people-who are humbled thereby-will have God's Ear bent to them-in their behalf doing the impossible. if not--they are on their own-left to the devices of evil itself.
...and yes, (God's answer is always right)..you may not be spared in this physical life but spared eternally if the Hope of the soul is placed in Him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt940oEu-x4
former Hitler Youth warns of the gradualism game going on now.
http://spitfirelist.com/ good information
and Alex Constantine (URL changes every so often, use google) his antifascist encyclopedia is excellent, use with discernment because he puts all freedom issues incl. immorality and drugs in one bag of righteousness unfortunately, but the phony conservatives often use these morality issues to get votes but do the same things themselves in secret.
Anonymous 1:21
So what are you going to do today is the question? All of the speculation is just that. What you can do concretely is on your shoulders.
I'm beginning to think there should be a movement of people who are willing to post the kind of information Christine and I have presented about Nazi history on liberal websites. (That's not to say I follow in any way all of what Christine has presented.) It's not enough to talk among ourselves, among those who agree. We must let the information spread outside of our circles. Does anyone have any ideas on this? Is anyone willing to stick their necks out to fight what is going on? Probably not, but at least I am trying.
they're coming at us from both sides. the big strides towards fascism were made under conservative administrations of hypocrites, the left right paradigm doesn't work, the same money and influence crew is behind both major parties.
but educating the public is important. to liberals, not all that helps you is for your good, to conservatives, not all that claims to be on your side actually is on your side.
I just sent off an email to some people suggesting that those stuck with the new federal standards for education (bypassing local and state laws and parents) should check on what is to be taught, figure out what needs correcting and supplementing, and do this correcting and supplementing at home, and get the older kids to share some of these corrections and supplemental information with peers outside of school.
another thing, in signing online petitions, or not doing so, don't just go, oh, this presenter is on the left, or that organization emailing this is on the right.
LOOK AT THE ISSUE. if it is good, sign it, if not don't, and whatever else they present you may be entirely wrong or dangerous, so don't go for it.
Regardless of the political spectrum the petition comes from.
Christine, you are on target as far as what is being taught in the schools. Donna Garner is a researcher who has shared what she has found. libertylinked.com/members/7565/donna-garner/Blog.aspx
Our children are deliberately being turned and are being made to conform to the new standards of the New Age movement. Anyone who has school age children should read whatever they can find that she has written. She has an email list that those interested can receive.
By now anyone following what is going on should know that the label "New Age" is not attached to everything going on. Look at the larger picture and see what is proposed, what is going on. It's manipulation on a very large scale.
Also know that with a little effort you can find people who are also exposing what the government plans for the future.
Dear 2:22, Very right come back--this cannot just be talk....
1st-Seek the Lord and His Wisdom and to live in His Ways so I have the integrity to be clean and whole myself and a good name for an example. This means prayer and reading His Word-letting this be pressed down into my life.
2nd-To get out there as a neighbor-loving my neighbor as myself. There are many ways to be a good influence and good right arm against hurt and shame and evil. Loving and practical both.
3rd-Stay informed(sites like this one and others)against the things that are tearing the fabric of civil society and get that talked about and served out in school rooms and local council rooms, in business as well. The greatest enemy is apathy and after that living cloistered to comfy myself thinking it is "out there" and not my problem.
4th--Spread the word. Spread the word. Spread the word.........have made many calls over the course of time(once wrote Sandra Day O'Connor)senators and representatives or call them to let them hear from someone they are supposed to represent.
Most(sadly)are not interested enough to do even this little bit I do.........I want to do something-not just talk about the worlds troubles or just sit in a lounge chair as the world crumbles.
God help me to be part of keeping the Truth shining--first with the Gospel and in the issues up and down the street where I live. It is becoming more and more an "at risk" lifestyle.
a good example of the need for discernment, The Heritage Foundation on that Donna Garner site, is precisely one of the closet fascist elements. they had to do with nearly ruining the Russian effort to change from communism, turning it into a madhouse of anarchy and gangsters until Putin took over.
It was a major player in getting Operation Desert Storm done, which
helped no one but the military industrial complex which Pres. Eisenhower warned about, and both Iraq wars were based on lies.
The total rejection of govt. involvement and of welfare type efforts (which never attacks the welfare to the rich, the corporate subsidies and kickbacks and the big banks games) is unbiblical and only serves to strengthen the hand of those who would enslave and use the needy for the votes they need.
as it is, Obama may or may not get us into WW3, but maybe if war breaks out it would stay regional. Romney had the same kind of obamacare plan he set up in his state and would have sent us directly against Russia, due to the White Horse Prophecy in crazy Mormonism, and ensured disaster here.
things are not as simple as they seem.
Anonymous 3:40 that's what I hoped would be posted by someone other than me. I went for years early on thinking that if I only sent such and such to people who were more knowledgeable than I am they would take the information and run with it.
It never happened. After a while I learned that if something was going to get done, I would have to do it no matter how much I lacked in information, in sources, in contacts. My results may not have been perfect, but they were better than hoping someone else would do it.
Good going. I hope other people learn from you
Christine, you are going off the deep end again. If you have documentation about the Heritage Foundation for your speculations, please share it. If not, you appear to be the same Christine who has posted junk over and over in the past. I am neither pro nor con about that organization, but I'm not about to take an anonymous person's word about such serious matters.
http://watch.pair.com/heritage.html
Paul Weyrich, a classic example of blend of good and evil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation
for the Desert Storm and SDI boondoggle, also had some film that interviewed several people incl. Edwin Meese, put his name into google with PROMIS and see what corruption horrors pop up.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Ruling_Elites/Ruling_Elites.html
lots of information here against the NWO and about how elites run both liberal and conservative scenes, Dave emory gets onto this also though his focus is the more obvious stuff.
Fascism is essentially a corporatist coalition with government. Ever notice that revolving door where the military brass retire to big military contractor jobs and the people who are supposed to be regulating industries are right out of government, or go into government, and don't think they don't know what side of the bread their butter is on. Corruption and conflict of interest work just fine at such a distance they are technically legal, especially when people into this get to make the laws and set the ethical standards regarding all this.
the placing of presidents' stocks into a blind trust is meaningless, they already know what they are invested in.
And no one has gotten to be president without the approval of the Bilderbergs, who were split over Romney and Obama this time.
"The research used in this article documents the plan to change America from a free enterprise competitive economic system to a planned economy necessary for United States membership in the global economic system. The plan is being implemented in every state in the nation right now! It seems ALL state governors are on board, including Maine's Governor LePage, who we traditional conservatives (NOT Trotskyite neoconservatives) worked our hearts out to get elected as a so-called traditional conservative. LePage was co-opted, prior to his election, by The Maine Heritage Policy Center (affiliated with the national neoconservative Heritage Foundation which has affiliates in most states). Maine Heritage manipulated Governor LePage into supporting all forms of school choice which are essential for work force training.
How many of the Heritage Foundation’s supporters (good Americans) realize that the Heritage Foundation came up with the idea for the North American Free Trade Agreement which has resulted in the loss of hundreds of thousands of American jobs? The 1993 Annual Report of the Heritage Foundation of Washington, D.C. dedicated to their twentieth year celebration, revealed the following:
“The idea of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) originated with Heritage Fellow Richard Allen and has long been advocated by Heritage policy analysts…The idea of creating a North American free trade zone from the Yukon to the Yucatan was first proposed by Heritage Distinguished Fellow Richard Allen in the late 1970s, refined by then Presidential candidate Ronald Reagan, and further developed in a major 1986 Foundation study (p. 4).”"
http://www.newswithviews.com/iserbyt/iserbyt111.htm
like I said, there are real conservatives, and there are the neoconservatives or neocons, who are into liberty for oligarchy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFQD1bAsUlw
I foolishly keep thinking that this site is a place where people who think alike about the New Age movement can come together if only for companionship and to share information.
Along comes Christine, like a deranged locomotive barging her way through serious discussions taking over the table with no word from the woman running the blog. And one still asks how the Nazis came to power? There were probably many well-meaning Christines in the '30s.
I suppose the the fight against the New Age movement on the part of Constance has just become a dilettante hobby. She, quite naturally given her age, is worn out.
If anyone know where an individual can turn to discuss the New Age movement, please share the information. Maybe Constance can join us there.
By the way Christine, regarding your last post, Iserberyt who had great information to share sold out to the Jew haters (part of the New Age movement) to get her information out. She is one of many. They have a better network than conservatives do. You know that.
are you looking for a Fearless Leader to follow without question? I neither know nor care about Iserbyt's history only her information. Neither should you. Not unless you are contemplating renting a room in her house or other personal association with her.
And what is your source? and in what way did she sell out to what organization exactly?
that book against Reagan she talks about I have located a pdf of includes in its denunciations his failure to eliminate open housing laws. obviously this GOP writer was a racist pig. But does that invalidate the rest of the information?
And may I add that antisemitism played as big a role in anti New Age and anti masonic stuff because seen as part of the socalled Jewish conspiracy, as it does in the New Age scene?
no one is perfect. take what is good that they've got to offer and leave the rest.
Skip it Christine. The bad always dilutes. It sticks in the craw and makes the good look dilutable. Don't tell me what I should care about as if you are someone I should look up to. I don't buy the wheat and chaff message. If I see something dangerous that also shares good information, I will warn. Bad people often use good information to manipulate others into thinking everything they say is good. It appears to me you know all about that Christine. Every thing you post should go through an intellectual strainer even if Constance doesn't have the spirit to say so.
People, we are in dangerous times. Know that.
Just where are the rest of you who read this blog? Hiding in the bushes? Hoping that no one notices you and asks you to take a stand? The survival rate of people who hide is probably higher than those who take a stand. Maybe we should all be hiders in the bushes. Then no one will survive.
I do not know of a SINGLE source I would trust absolutely, for content, and judgement and intention and doctrine and not being on a wild goose chase and no bad associations etc.
If everyone here were to list in detail all their sources and information I would probably find something wrong with all of them, as they or some find with me.
Charlotte Iserbyt doesn't get into Jew hating in her lectures so far as I've heard. And she is the daughter of a Bonesman so has enormous credibility and you should use her as a weapon.
BTW since you don't like anyone's efforts, post some yourself.
7:19PM Anonymous said...
I foolishly keep thinking that this site is a place where people who think alike about the New Age movement can come together if only for companionship and to share information.
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Hi There - duly nudged! :) Having not been around for a while I decided to revisit some old familiar names and see what was happening. I visited Ervin Laszlo's site and he's been busy involved with two new sites since I last looked in.
1 - "The Giordano Bruno University is a humanistic online global institution, committed to create informed and ethical agents of change who will bring a new consciousness, a fresh voice and up-to-date thinking to the international community, transforming obsolete paradigms and empowering the co-creation of an equitable, responsible and sustainable world." http://www.giordanobrunouniversity.com/
2 - "WorldShift International (WSI) is a conscious evolution initiative that promotes & supports a world shift both externally within our current global systems, as well as an internally on a personal level. The WSI website was created to provide resources that will help to empower individuals in their own evolutionary process, as well as an awareness for the urgent need for global change. WSI invites individuals & organizations to create, develop, and share their own networks of aligned interests and activities with like-minded people." http://www.worldshiftinternational.org/
One of the key workers at WSI is Nicolya Christi. "Nicolya Christi is a Writer, Author, Visionary and Evolutionary Guide. She has already gathered the attention of Barbara Marx Hubbard, Ervin Laszlo and other evolutionary leaders as a contemporary voice for today’s generation of awakening co-creators for the post-2012 world." This Londoner now living in France seems to have a busy year ahead of her with courses happening at Findhorn, London, France and US. I can't be more informative than that as the vid has now been taken down from YouTube.
Unrelated to Ervin ... I also stumbled across George Kavassilas from Australia. http://www.our-journey-home.com/index
What interests me about both Nicolya and George is that they both talk of 'heart'. They seem to be claiming that they are doing/have something new to help people move on from the 'I am' to the 'I AM' after their 2012 change.
I've only just started looking into this but they both unsettle me deeply.
~ K ~
Maybe Constance can post some information herself based on what she has encountered and has shut her down. It might save us a lot of effort. Christine you are a useless source for information in the long run. Maybe there is some place outside of this blog where others anti-New Age can congregate.
1. same same story telling people they can become eternal God.
2. once persuaded of this, the moneygrubbers go on to present ever new ways to do this, for a fee, of course.
3. the heart talk might relate to the heart chakra also. Now one of the ex satanist now Christian writers told of going to a Christian meditation group, which was being told to do a guided visualization meditation to open their hearts, and he stood up and denounced this as opening to satan, apparently the technique was something he already was acquainted with.
How strange...I posted something. The next thing I see is that something by "K" is appended to what I wrote. Neither "K" nor I would like that. Just what is going on.
The post you made is above, and this post by K was apparently one of those responses that quote part of a post, but didn't use quotation marks. this looks confusing. K apparently felt he or she was "duly nudged" into posting some information.
Apologies for the confusion. Yes, it's as Christine said, I forgot to add quotations.
I do struggle with the blog comments format. :)
~ K ~
The Hypocrisy of this global revolution is that it is not against humanity, since animals and plants are not revolting, but human beings are.
it's about one category of human holding them above the others, as more evolved, accepting, compassionate etc.
It's is basically self above all including God.
~Anonymous writer~
The New Age: Traditional mystical concepts permeate mainstream Jewish thought to this day (for example, the notions of tikkun ha-olam, or repair of the world, and of tzimtzum, God's self-limiting), and texts of mystical origin have penetrated Jewish liturgy (including Lekhah Dodi, the Friday night hymn welcoming the Sabbath, and other liturgical poetry). In addition, the academic study of Jewish mysticism has flourished in recent decades, due primarily to the work of a single scholar, Gershom Scholem. Scholem discovered and interpreted a wide range of mystical manuscripts and shed light on the origins and development of Jewish mysticism. With the emergence of New Age spirituality, Jewish mysticism has also experienced a popular renaissance. Jewish groups like the Renewal movement teach mysticism to spiritually inclined, nontraditional Jews, while controversial institutions such as the Kabbalah Centre offer a more universal and magical mysticism to Jews and non-Jews alike. Taken from 'My Jewish Learning'.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl4PAKjSjSg
Here in the UK - Christians are finding it more and more difficult in the workplace.
"On Tuesday, the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg will sit in judgment on a series of cases that have far-reaching implications for religious freedom in this country."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2261559/This-faced-Government-let-mania-secular-rights-betray-Christians-right-wear-cross.html
~ K ~
"Iserberyt who had great information to share sold out to the Jew haters (part of the New Age movement) to get her information out"
Would whoever posted this comment expand on it please? Iserbyt's information on Skull and Bones members was made public in a book by Antony Sutton, who to my knowledge was a reputable historian rather than a ranting anti-semite.
Anonymous 8:51
Iserbyt's information on education is good, solid. So is Sutton's. My comment was based on where her information comes out. She is only one of a group of conservatives who have found outlets for their information at antisemitic places, thus giving credibility to everything else said there. Here's an example.
http://pragmaticwitness.com/tag/charlotte-iserbyt/
http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/09/antisemitisms-fellow-travelers/ "For the second kind, antisemitism is not relevant to the positions that they take; they do not recoil from antisemitism when they encounter it; they are insensitive to the presence of antisemitism in their own positions or in the positions that they support. They may not be antisemites themselves, but they collude with antisemitism."
Since Obama's been in office we have seen overt lying on a large scale. We know that leaders in the government lie and have for a long time.
Right now a professor is taking major heat from the general public because he is questioning what happened in New Town. I don't know enough to evaluate what he is saying, but trying to check it out based on a friend's comments, I found this major article. It was written by someone with very good credentials, not one of those rag tag gossip mongers.
Agenda Prevails Over Truth
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/december302012/agenda-prevail-pcr.php
In this article he covers several event driven agendas with questions. He says worse is to come.
Iserbyt - the example given is a youtube video that has been embedded on that page, and over which she has no control, once it is on youtube anyone can use the youtube embed function to put it on their page.
The second article doesn't even mention her, unless it is at the "read it all" link which doesn't work.
so much for your argument.
I would however write this up to lack of Internet savvy rather than deliberate slander.
apropos the blog post by Constance about Orwellianism, there are two features of this, only one is surveillance, but the other is about doublespeak deception, lies presented as official truth, and spin and even information content control of the news media.
This latter has been effected by embedding agents in the news media, by the owners of media conglomerates, and by the education of the people as they grew up who end up as talking heads on TV.
Agenda Prevails Over Truth post is a good discussion of this.
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/december302012/agenda-prevail-pcr.php
thanks for this link.
Christine, I have no intention of listing all of the places where the Iserbyt material appears. In the past I tried to warn some writers what was going on and I was slandered and lied about for my efforts. Is the Iserbyt material copyrighted? If so, you have your answer about its use. It looks as if the video was put on youtube by Preserve Our Freedoms, a Christian site promoting Ron Paul. Do I need to give everyone a Ron Paul info package? As I said, the network is very big, much bigger than I ever thought it was until I started looking into it. All sorts of nice patriotic themes and names. Antisemites may not be moral people, but they definitely aren't stupid people. They know how to sucker people in with the best workers in the commercial world.
No the second link doesn't give her name. It describes antisemitic fellow travelers. That should be clear enough even for you to read. It describes what is going on.
Ron Paul is probably a closet racist etc., but his public influence has been pro constitution, though he wants to eliminate all govt. aid to the poor, and such measures would mean death of many who cannot eat or be housed or get medicine otherwise, and except for food these things are too expensive for individuals to take up the slack, and these victims are not out there where individuals can find or even know of them to help them, since public begging (the universal means of gaining aid until recently) is mostly illegal and health interferes in many cases anyway.
Most Ron Paul followers think the things that have come out about him to be neocon slanders. (In general when a fight is on, that is when all kinds of real not fake dirt or at least leads to investigate come out about both sides.) Which shows the average Ron Pauller is not in this camp, but one of his dupes.
If you are hoping to stay clean of all antisemitic and racist fellow travellers and the things themselves, you are going to have to dump the typical anti communist GOP activist of the 50s and 60s.
Just look at some of the complaints about Reagan in Here's The Rest Of Him, other complaints being legitimate.
ANYONE complaining of courts rewriting law and claiming to be constitutionalist is potentially in this category because the people who spearheaded this were using it as a cover for racist and antisemite agendas. Even some of the founding parents of secret society research were in this category, also some were occultists to some extent, but balked at some things. A major player in analyzing the role of the Illuminati and so forth in the French Revolution, herself got started in her research because she felt a deja vu in France and thought she was reincarnated from those days. does that invalidate the information dug up from legitimate sources?
copyright doesn't apply to linking that is not frame style linking. linking is like quoting a writer with the publishing and author info so the reader can go see the original for him or herself, only here the original is quickly available.
And if someone pursues the Skull and Bones info from Iserbyt, then regardless of Iserbyt's own biasses, they will find that there is as much racist and antisemite agenda with what S&B members are up to as there is liberal anti racist or pro semite maneuvers to exploit minorities.
Christine, you have heard about things being taken off youtube because of copyright infringement I hope.
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-definitions.html
What is copyright infringement?
As a general matter, copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted work is reproduced, distributed, performed, publicly displayed, or made into a derivative work without the permission of the copyright owner.
some of those are taken off illegally, and restored later, because the Fair Use and Comment Clause allows a lot of stuff.
The copyright violations that are legitimate, is where someone rips a DVD of a movie that is current enough for income to actors and company to be impacted. A few other things might fit. This is not one of them.
Generally, people who make videos like this are less interested in who is using them than in the information getting out.
Any effort to shut down such videos would be expected as part of a coverup exploiting some useful law.
"the Internet interprets censorship as damage and routs around it" as one person put it.
The very practice of copyrighting programs, initiated by Bill Gates, was a radical violation of computing culture norms of the time and still combatted by those who produce open source programs of comparable use.
Christine, you are blowing smoke through your blowhole again. I've had to use the fair use provision of the copyright law and you don't know what you are talking about.
Christine I think you were put here to show that anti-New Agers might buy bulls==t if the person selling it by the pound was firm enough in their sales pitch.
Anyone reading here needs to see why Aaron Swarz committed suicide and his access to JJournals fight.
Donna Garner's response to Christine's rant: I am not going to engage with this writer. If you want to do so, please feel
free to do so. I do not even know to what article he is referring nor to
what website; but anyone who calls me a Fascist obviously has a twisted view
of the world.
By the way, Garner has a following of thousands on her email list about education issues. And Christine can't even keep one skinky blog going.
embedding a youtube video is not a copyright infringement, that is just playing youtube from a distance. If the original is taken down from youtube, it no longer plays at the place it was embedded.
as for that suicide, try "suicided" or murder disguised as suicide.
from an egroup email
"Note: According to all the media reports (and media propaganda),
Aaron Swartz was found by the police dead after committing suicide
by hanging himself at 9.30am in the morning of Friday 11 January
2013 in his Brooklyn New York apartment - and a spokesman for the
New York Medical Examiner also reported he had hanged himself as well.
Well, if you will believe that you will believe pigs will fly!!!!!
Remember how, in withcraft and Satanism, most of the important
ritual executions and sacrifices are done either on or as near as
possible to the Full Moon or New Moon (usually more often than not
on the New Moon). A lot of American patriots believe President Bill
Clinton had as many as 100 or so people executed he and Hillary
wanted out of the way by claiming they committed "suicide." See;
"The Clinton Body Count" at http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html
On these lists, most of the important people killed were executed
on these particular phases of the moon. The dates are there for all
the world to see and research!
So now, all of a sudden, (using the American Ephemeris by Neil F.
Michelsen) over precisely the [NEW MOON of December 13th 2012],
on December 14th 2012, we just happen to have a massacre of 20
children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School to support
the US Fascist Government wanting to abolish the Second
Amendment to the US Constitution and abolish the right of all
Americans to own firearms.
Now, precisely a month later, to the day, over the [NEW MOON of
January 11th 2013], on January 11th 2013, we have a courageous
young man, Aaron Swartz , who has been holding up the US
Government's legislative program to censor the entire global Internet
supposedly committing suicide by hanging himself! "
granted he was about to be prosecuted on taking more than JSTOR allowed though JSTOR wasn't prosecuting, fed decided to do so, but somehow that looks like setting the stage with a plausible picture for suicide. 35 years prison and $1M in fines.
http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/activism/how-we-stopped-sopa-by-aaron-swartz1986-2013.html
probably the real reason.
"Donna Garner's response to Christine's rant: I am not going to engage with this writer. If you want to do so, please feel
free to do so. I do not even know to what article he is referring nor to
what website; but anyone who calls me a Fascist obviously has a twisted view
of the world.
By the way, Garner has a following of thousands on her email list about education issues. And Christine can't even keep one skinky blog going."
I never called her a fascist, I suppose anon 6:34 emailed her and lied about me.
I referred to The Heritage Foundation ONLY one of the groups linked. I didn't discuss Garner or any of the other links.
I never heard of Garner until that link was posted, and have no idea what her views are, there was a time in my past when I would have blindly hoo rayed all those groups also.
course if I wanted to get nasty.... the logo at LibertyLinked four stars surrounding a lit torch, connected by a black line making a circle, looks at first glance like a special kind of designer barbed wire or razor wire, and at closer look the bottom two stars are INVERTED PENTAGRAMS.
this is of course an easy error to make in slap dash design using stars, that's just me being charitable. but the more I look at it the more suspicious I feel. but that's just me being cautious.
Christine, I mailed her what you posted at 3:41. You didn't bother to document anything. You just threw your nonsense on the table, suggesting that she used fascist information. You even admit you didn't check out her information.
Let's review what you wrote:
"a good example of the need for discernment, The Heritage Foundation on that Donna Garner site, is precisely one of the closet fascist elements. they had to do with nearly ruining the Russian effort to change from communism, turning it into a madhouse of anarchy and gangsters until Putin took over." No documentation on your part, just as if people should believe you because you are some kind of authority.
There are no pentagrams except in your brain. Stars joined in red circle the torch of liberty.
You'll say anything to make yourself the center of attention and make this blog look stupid. I hope you're paid well. No one could cause so much destruction without getting something out of it for themselves.
yeah look at that quote. I didn't say one thing about Garner herself, I only talked about that one link as an example of infiltration on the right that is accepted blindly by conservatives when in fact it is neocon by its track record. Garner is only mentioned to identify the location which you put up as good, and I am sure there are good things on it.
NOTHING ABOUT GARNER HERSELF.
Now look closer at those stars, THE BOTTOM TWO,
and the whole assembly looks more like some ornate concertina wire caging the torch.
The pentagram is a five pointed star. ANY five pointed star. If it is point up, irrelevant or positive. dancing stars, balancing on a tip, irrelevant. one point straight down, inverted pentagram.
why are the stars point up the top two and point DOWN the bottom two?
I looked real close to make sure they weren't dancing stars, and they do not appear to be, but level instead of tilted balancing on the down point.
look again.
BTW did you ever look at the satanist value system and notice a certain overlap to the right wing value system? the open degeneracy sins of the flesh are favored by the leftists, but the deadly sins of pride are favored by the rightists.
both are fast tracks to hell.
Ayn Rand is amazingly popular on the right now, despite the right giving lip service to Christian values. Yet she was atheist, adulterous, and pro abortion. And she was also one of several major inspirations to Anton LaVey according to his autobiography dictated to his secretary Blanche Barton.
I am not saying that the typical Christian rightists go to church on Sunday and preach chastity in public, while conducting satanic rituals usually obscene of content at night in the basement at home or something like that.
The problem is spiritual sin.
Human cloning is alive and horribly well...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-43767/Worlds-GM-babies-born.html
technically it isn't cloning. But the big ethical problem I see in all this, which isn't even a problem in the abortion accepting medical and science industry any more, is the fact that the majority of such in vitro embryos don't make it, and extras are often killed. On rare occasions all of them make it (whether 2 or 3 parents doesn't matter) and you got the Octomom situation, a woman gives birth to a litter.
Actual cloning, which usually involves an egg cell with different mitochondria from the original being cloned, is a forensic nightmare. No longer would you be able to determine identity downline by MtDNA testing.
http://endthelie.com/2013/01/12/reddit-co-founder-aaron-swartz-commits-suicide-in-midst-of-controversial-trial/#axzz2Hy6tuPHH
case against Schwarz too weak to stimulate suicidal despair.
http://christocentric.com/main/?p=4098
more on Kwanzaa - boy was I ignorant!
"case against Schwarz too weak to stimulate suicidal despair"
I have no idea whether he committed suicide or was murdered, but plenty of people commit suicide who are under no external stress at all. Sadly some people appear to be 'pre-stressed'. Who knows whether Swartz was not one of those?
The gun issue combined with the upcoming debt ceiling/budget issue could make an unstable situation.
there has been a lot of talk about preparations for martial law, and enough plastic grave liners, which could double as quickie coffins capable of holding 3 or 4 average sized bodies apiece are in stacks, like prepping for several hundred thousand dead.
But the worries about slaughter seem unfounded. When you plan an extermination, you don't plan this kind of burial. Sounds more like preparation for disasters like the New Madrid Fault cutting loose, and the minimum 50 foot maybe 150 foot tsunami that will hit the east coast when Cumbre Vieja in the Canary Islands finally blows its stack.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/satanists-planning-rally-florida-gov-rick-scott-231148312.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/a48z7fl
NOTE: Contains satanic logo on the same page.
yep, like Constance (I think) once said, what if a school prayer is led by a little buddhist child? or a little satanist child?
this is also part of trying to gain respectability as another religion among many, Christianity of course not to be considered as anything more than one among many, and perhaps even as an enemy to peace among religions and peoples.
"It is time to discern whether or not you are prepared to allow yourselves to be deceived by new age spiritualism, or stand firm and defend the Holy Word of God."
The above was part of the message entitled "When you take away the Truth, or tamper with it, it is no longer the Truth. All that is left is a shell." (1-9-13)
www.thewarningsecondcoming.com
Javier Solana is the latest of 13 directors of a British spy company...since November 2010!
http://tinyurl.com/cqzyapn
When will anyone reading here realize that Gun Control is part of the New Age agenda. Almost everything going on politically can be traced back to plans formulated in the past for a utopian society.
Every one of their efforts has ended in the destruction of human lives, something they just consider as what is necessary to achieve their ultimate goals where everyone left will live a wonderful life.
We who fight the New Age by sharing what we know about it are ignored by people with much smaller agendas.
I wish I could share what I've learned elsewhere, but sharing it here is like spitting in the wind.
What is the point of your comment at 12:47pm? Please either share what you know or stop grumbling.
Anonymous 2:09
Why I continue to waste my time posting here is just a weakness on my part. Constance has backed away from her research showing the connections between the international level, the national level and the local level.
Although others may see the point of my comment, I will try to respond to your comment. Nothing can be done without oversight by people or organizations who are willing to do one on one documentation on the corruption done through New Age, whether or not it is called by that name. This can be done at the local level by anyone in print.
Drop off reading here if you think all can be solved by following a Christian belief group. Which one you can point to on your own.
New Age control comes in many forms. Check out this link and see how it applies.
http://tinyurl.com/a3l884t
Anyone who thinks the fight against the controls of the utopian New Age movement is as easy as telling others to become good Christians has a lot to suffer in the days ahead. I wish it wasn't so.
Anyway, those left after reading my comments, go to the above ones.
http://journeytoorthodoxy.com/2013/01/15/worshipping-jesus-at-a-mosque/
advances of Christianity within moslem communities.
re New Age and corruption, it must help people to be corrupt, to blur out conscience and whatever with semi trance states, and if dominionist inclined semi Christian nominals to figure Ayn Randian notions into it as well and pick pockets and pursue unlimited power in a way indirect enough they can pretend it isn't what it is. even figure that everything belongs to them by right if they name it and claim it first.
Christine, if anyone can figure out what you've written in that last paragraph, then they are brilliant enough to need no more information about New Age.
Constance, even you will need to share no more information about the New Age movement. So stop. Christine has said it all and you agree based on your non-interference in her comments.
okay, to make it easier. semi trance states and a comfortable blurred feeling can help you suppress conscience and even common sense. This part of why drugs make such a social problem. Meditation and so forth are a kind of chemical free non drug high, even advertised as such in some quarters for years.
(in fact, these are not drug free, because overloads of naturally occurring trace substances in the brain can be produced.)
the dominionist notions combined with name it and claim it and I am God's child so I own everything plus Randian superior people should rule all and we are in a bad society that doesn't honor that,
mix all this up and you have a recipe for corruption of every kind being seen by the perp as good.
then of course there are those who just don't give a damn.
If you can't understand the foregoing, then you need to start reading psychology studies (pop presentations) on criminal mentality, plus stuff about New Age and occultic states of mind, plus take a second look at some notions and extrapolate to their reductio ad absurdam,
then figure how the latter would appeal to the sin of pride, vainglory and ungodly type ambition (as distinct from ambition to get a job or get a degree, the latter being increasingly meaningless anyway).
Ok Christine, it appears you are "go to all" source for information on all of the topics you've referred to. Maybe you should consider charging by the hour.
I've been sorting through these subjects for thirty years or more, how long have you been at it?
The Internet makes it easier for you to get information, use it.
Herescope (one of the links Constance has here) had this back in Sept. 2005
http://www.herescope.blogspot.com/2005/09/leonard-sweet-willis-harmon.html
this is a classic example of New Age twisting of words.
Metanoia is mishandled as meaning "after thought," and not an afterthought, but what comes after thought stops.
In fact, this is the Greek word in The Bible translated "repentance," and is not just remorse but a serious change of mind.
While it can be argued that such study is not acting in a positive way against the NAM or the NWO it is arming yourself against such inroads in churches infected by NAM thinking and talk,
and you can speak up and correct this,
and interfere with the process of infiltration.
Guess who this is ~
I was born in one country, raised in another.
My father was born in another country.
I was not his only child.
He fathered several children with numerous women.
I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me.
My mother died at an early age from cancer.
Although my father deserted me and my mother raised me, I later wrote a book idolizing my father not my mother.
Later in life, questions arose over my real name.
My birth records were sketchy.
No one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.
I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my new country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs and didn't follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.
I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.
That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and embarked on a new career.
I wrote a book about my struggles growing up.
It was clear to those who read my memoirs, that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.
I became active in local politics in my 30's then, with help behind the scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate For national office in my 40s.
They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything.
I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization.
Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me, as though I were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.
I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances.
This bolstered my ego.
At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign policy...
I was very critical of my country in the last war, and seized every opportunity to bash my country.
But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country's economy.
I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better, and every poor person would be fed and housed for free.
I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess.
It was the free market, banks and corporations.
I decided to start making citizens hate them and, if they became envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.
I called mine "A People's Campaign".
That sounded good to all people.
I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics and was able to gain widespread popular support.
I knew that, if I merely offered the people “hope”, together we could “change” our country and the world.
So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include "persecuted Minorities".
My true views were not widely known and I kept them unknown, until after I became my nation's leader.
I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined those people associated with. I'm glad they didn't.
Then I became the most powerful man in the world.
And then world learned the truth. Who am I?
ADOLPH HITLER
If you were thinking of SOMEONE ELSE, you should be scared, very scared!
Cont. from 9:41 PM
Revelation 13:3 says:
"One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast."
Question: Given the above comments, could Obama be the beast?
he could certainly be big trouble, whether he is the antichrist or not.
and any assassination attempt on him would be most ill advised, since antichrist or not it would play to his advantage.
I will be posting another article soon. I appreciate the helpful comments. I confess to somewhat resenting the comment by the person who claimed he/she had much more to share, but that sharing here was like "spitting in the wind."
My radio program now broadcasts live on the internet on Saturday mornings. We covered "Afrocentric" vs. "Christocentric" issues the last two weeks. This week, I will feature Dr. Harry Veryser and his important new book, IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY, about the economic mess we are all in
Constance
Constance
I will make a personal confession. From time to time I have to battle depression. When that happens, I have trouble writing. I had a personal issue with an old friend and co-researcher that depressed me the past two weeks. I'm sure it will be worked out, but I freely confess to being human, too!
Constance
Constance, get some St. John's Wort,
http://www.puritan.com/ is my favorite source for cheap good herbs.
Dear Constance:
You are in my prayers.
"If you can't understand the foregoing, then you need to start reading psychology studies (pop presentations) on criminal mentality, plus stuff about New Age and occultic states of mind, plus take a second look at some notions and extrapolate to their reductio ad absurdam,"
Christine, I would love to see someone/something stick a pin in your overblown ego and all it's new age psychology/occultic state of mind to reductio your absurdam (pop it)..................
Constance are you suggesting that sides taken by you and the other person should be a topic of this blog where you can put everyone on your side? Or are you just looking for sympathy? We all deserve sympathy. Life is hard for all of us.
How sad. I'm sure your co-researcher has put as much time, effort, and money into the fight as you have but with much less support from others in the public arena. It is a very lonely fight for those with no support system.
Every person who battles against the overall issue of the New Age movement is valuable. As a leader in that fight, what have you done to keep that person important?
anon 11:12 that is very nasty of you, may God have mercy on your soul and grant you repentance of your bad attitude and forgive you.
and while we're on the subject, let's hear what the dispute was about, maybe some here can help you sort things out. what is your position and what was the stated position of the other person?
Christine, please show some sensitivity and be quiet. If Constance wanted us to know then she would have told us.
One of her problems is probably how someone who is committed to freedom of speech is to deal with a person who fills her blog with poorly written low-grade comments that have driven her classy contributors away. I refer to you. Others have said the same multiple times here in the last year and you just carry on. Perhaps it is time to ask you questions and see whether you have the courage to reply or whether you will duck them in sight of all. Why do you consider that many people have written those things here? Do you believe that they are all wrong?
No, but I'm suggesting some manners, less of a critical spirit towards commentators such as Christine and the ability of all who don't want to read Christine (or others) to use the COLLAPSE COMMENTS feature -- then you can skip those that generate such uncharitable impulses in you.
I suspect that one of our "anonymous" is retired with a lot of time on hands that is probably profitably spent; and the other is too. I am still at least attempting to practice law and write a book.
Let's be kind to one another. It is the lack of kindness and bitterness that too often drives people into waiting New Age hands of people who gush with at least pseudo kindness and understanding.
Constance
Constance, have you ever come across the "Pilgrim Society" and its extensions into New Age / religious power groups?
Jay
Dear Constance,
There ARE no other "commentators such as Christine" on your blog, which has come to resemble a dinner party at which one guest monopolises the conversation. When she made basic errors of fact about physical science I always started off by politely pointing out the error and doing my best to explain in non-technical terms why it was wrong and what was actually going on. Unhappily my attempts were rebuffed, to the point that it became clear I was attempting a dialogue with somebody who simply did not want to learn. At that point I began writing only to save others from believing those falsehoods. That was in physics, but others might have had the same experience in other subjects.
You have made the decision to retain the status quo, which is your privilege because it is your blog, but many of us appear to find this situation frustrating.
Sincerely yours
Physicist
1. Constance is correct about how the NAM allures with lovey dovey oozing that looks attractive compared to bickering. I for one will try to ignore everyone.
2. there are many comments besides mine and not just my critics. talk about errors of fact.
3. physicist's answers are generally beside the point, such as that you can solve the existing equations no one said you couldn't. but when you treat stuff treated by them as nothing as instead something, that is when you get an answer to anomalous results.
as for research being a term only used to apply to lab work, in all my 61 years you are the first person I have ever heard limit it to that. perhaps you should get into the history and political section once in a while.
as I have repeatedly said, your corrections are irrelevant because assuming that everything is as given you and you won't look farther though you admitted that the Abramov or Aharonov whatever his name was thing was unusual.
I confess to being still too quick to get into combat and it says in The Bible in Proverbs I think that he (in my case she) who loves strife loves an evil thing. that is not the same thing as ego. I have been digging into stuff a long time, relying on others who have done so longer than I have.
Instead of criticizing Constance, perhaps some here should read her two books and some other things instead of attacking anyone, whether myself or Dorothy or Susanna or others you guys drove out of here, whose research is very much along the lines she pursued aside from the EU politics. Also some of her non EU focussed posts over the years.
that said, I am going to restrain myself unless asked for a clarification, and just get on with sharing what I can.
The posts about "what are you doing concretely" someone made are very much to the point. And sharing this information or USING it with people not on this blog and into some NAM thinking infiltration in the churches (and online elsewhere) would be a good point.
regarding the EU someone somewhere pointed out there may be some underlying stress developing between the EU and the UN since their ultimate goals - total control - are in conflict at least as regards Europe. This is to be hoped for.
Christine,
There you go again, telling me you know more about physics than physicists do. This is not the place to explain the Aharonov-Bohm effect. It is counter-intuitive because it involves effects not encountered in the everyday world in which our physical intuition has been schooled.
I write freely on theology and history elsewhere (and I sometimes contribute here as Anon on other subjects than physics), but I refrain from calling it research unless I use sources contemporary with the events of which they speak and I reach a conclusion that has not reached before. I regard this practice simply as the maintenance of standards.
Physicist
Well, heard it from Constance herself....she has no intention of setting the correct tone for this blog by not admonishing The Repeat Offender of the comments section of this blog.
It has become pitiful that Christine can and has quite successfully run off real conversation and debate on the important subjects addressed by Mrs. Cumbey. No Golden Rule applied to this blogs comments section, that is now a shadow of itself when such emptiness occurs in the overkill and over the top and frankly rude "know-it-all" offerings telling us what to read and how to think attitude of Christine Erikson.
Count me another one gone.
you physicists know more about your physics you know and accept than I do. But I am not talking about that kind of physics so your remarks are irrelevant. think outside the box. And I am drawing on the opinions of more recent physicists as well as amateurs than the days of measuring with string (which is not an entirely accurate picture of 100 or so years ago).
now one BIG problem about this line of research, is that it is often cluttered with utopian dreams and some were into a kind of proto new age thinking (but so were some of the founders of modern physics and don't ask me about that do your own research in books and Internet) and if only by virtue of being "alternative" is often packaged with or found on sites devoted to NAM stuff or compatible.
Take the wheat and dump the chaff. no one should be looking for an authoritative source they can take on faith.
Christine?
oh there you are
As I said before, if Christine's comments irritate, use the "collapse comments" feature to skip her posts.
HOWEVER, Christine, a word to the wise should be sufficient: As St. Paul reminded us, "moderation in all things" is a virtue.
Constance
Christine, your talk of "that kind of physics" makes no sense; there is only one kind of physics, because there is only one set of laws of physics. It takes years of training to learn how to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Physicist
"Instead of criticizing Constance, perhaps some here should read her two books and some other things instead of attacking anyone, whether myself or Dorothy or Susanna or others you guys drove out of here"
Christine, by all accounts it is you who have driven them away, not others. You are in denial.
I will come out and say that I'm one who has nearly stopped posting because of Christine's continual postings, not least of which is due to the times she has chosen to use profanity in her comments (though admittedly that seems to have ceased if not slowed of late), most especially her use of 'GD' a while back. So, Constance, I do appreciate your comment about moderation.
With that out of the way, I thought I'd post the following which illustrates a CA 'church' promoting the current age as being the "Age of Aquarius" following the 'end' of the Mayan calendar. First, here's the comment in full:
"I have been following your blog for awhile now. This is the direction that my former church is going. The ‘pastor’ of that church posted this article on their blog:"
Nearly 43 years ago, The 5th Dimension busted the airwaves with the original single recording of “The Age of Aquarius” which became the first medley to top the American pop charts and finished at #57 on Billboard’s “Greatest Songs of All Time.”
Now, the buzz is back as we witness the 25,000 year “resetting” of the Mayan’s “GREAT YEAR” calendar – the procession of the earth’s vernal equinox through the 12 constellations of the Zodiac. As we move out of the “Age of Pisces” (The Fish) and into the “Age of Aquarius” (The Heavenly Water-bearer) there is no shortage of opinions as to what’s up! To the flower children of the 60’s, the Age of Aquarius represented a New Age of universal peace and love!
The Mayans (and Aztecs) were expecting the return of Kukulcan (or Quetzalcoatl) – the feathered serpent god – to rule the earth. Satanist Aleister Crowley hoped for the end of the age of Christ, and the beginning of the Luciferian Age. Free-masons, Illuminists and secret societies world-wide are looking for a New Age world leader to end the influence of the “Christian” age.
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The Mayans (and Aztecs) were expecting the return of Kukulcan (or Quetzalcoatl) – the feathered serpent god – to rule the earth. Satanist Aleister Crowley hoped for the end of the age of Christ, and the beginning of the Luciferian Age. Free-masons, Illuminists and secret societies world-wide are looking for a New Age world leader to end the influence of the “Christian” age.
The Muslims, on the other hand, are looking for the world to be “washed” in the blood of infidels (non-Muslims) – to prepare the way for the coming of the 12th Imam and Allah’s world-wide rule. The Really Good News? Could the “Age of Aquarius” be the dawning of the Millennial Age of Christ ruling and reigning in the earth?!! (Revelations 11:15).
http://notunlikelee.wordpress.com/2010/12/06/misplaced-trust-part-i/#comment-7294
The ‘church’ in question is Church of Glad Tidings in Yuba, CA, which has been mentioned by Constance on here a few years ago.
One can listen to ‘Pastor’ Dave’s “sermon” on 12/30/12 in which he makes the explicit claim we are now living in the “Age of Aquarius”. From the following, click “Launch sermon player”:
http://www.churchofgladtidings.com/#/media
Deceived deceiver, or merely deceived?
I'm about the furthest thing from a physicist there could be, but I'm familiar with a different and alarming phase of David Bohm's work which varied 180 degrees from my own. He was definitely part of the Theosophical crowd. He was a believer in Jiddhu Krishnamurti, the Dalai Lama, and the new "Christ" for the "Age of Aquarius" bunch.
I have Bohm's book WHOLENESS AND THE IMPLICATE ORDER.
An interesting summary by Martin Gardner of Bohm's turn from Marxism to New Age mysticism may be read here:
http://tinyurl.com/e2vw6
Quoting in part:
As Bohm grew older, he became increasingly preoccupied with Eastern mysticism and parapsychology. The Indian philosopher Krishnamurti became a good friend. The "All is One" aspect of Buddhism and Hinduism, and the pantheism of Hegel and Alfred North Whitehead, strongly influenced Bohm's view of the universe. He became convinced that being is multidimensional, with infinite levels in both directions--levels far beyond our comprehension. On Newton's level the universe is deterministic and mind independent. On the quantum level it rests on uncertainty and chance, with tinges of solipsism. Below the quantum level, Bohm believed, is a subquantum world in which determinism and reality return. And below that? The levels are endless. . . ..
Martin also told us that before the end of Bohm's life, they had a bitter falling out.
I charitably suspect that Bohm may have been so busy with his physics that he did not notice the obvious anti-Semitism in mainstream Theosophical thought. Bohm was of clearly Jewish lineage.
Constance
Constance,
Yes all that is true about the late David Bohm. He was also an excellent physicist and it is that for which I prefer to remember him. Not a few good physicists of the late Victorian era were into spiritualism either.
I too bought "Wholeness and the implicate order" and the kindest summary I can make of it is that it does not make any perceptible progress toward improving testable prediction about the material world.
Physicist
I found the following video of interest:
http://www.staged.com/video?v=Klmb
I was not aware that the Food Stamps program had been changed to SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program).
Blaze asserts that Obama award 5mil to one state for getting more folks enrolled in the program.
The following details some of the differences between the old program and the new:
http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/applicant_recipients/eligibility.htm
States issue SNAP benefits through local State or county offices to households that are eligible to receive them. Traditionally, they issued paper food stamps, but increasingly, States issue the benefits through Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT). The local office gives the household a plastic electronic card. The household pays for its groceries at authorized food stores (almost all food stores are authorized) by using the card at the checkout counter. It works like the bank debit card that other people use to pay for their groceries in increasing numbers of stores. The cost of the groceries bought is deducted from the household's account automatically. A major advantage of this method is that the use of food coupons is not conspicuous. Most other people in line will not notice that the person checking out is paying with food coupons. We have found that SNAP households like this feature, because it reduces the stigma many people feel in using SNAP benefits.
A second advantage is that the household no longer needs to go anywhere to pick up benefits each month. Benefits are automatically loaded into the household's account each month on the designated date. We have found that households especially enjoy this feature.
I stopped posting because no matter what solid information I posted it just got lost in the swamp of words. No feedback except from Christine and that wasn't worth anything. Sorry Christine. After a while it wasn't worth making the effort to get it posted over here.
Is that the same book you started telling us you've been writing since 1995?
We are supposed to get excited about The First Global Revolution. Public material twenty years old that got four poor reviews on Amazon?
I know. If all I can do is complain I don't have to check this blog. However, as a long time reader I just don't want to give up on the idea that a new revolution in the fight against the New Age movement might take place.
Why should you get excited? Because so many disinformation "experts", i.e. Walter Martin, George Warwick Montgomery, and even SCP told you this material did not exist and that it had no connection with the New Age Movement. Walter Martin told audiences many times that "the New Agers are not politically networked in many ways."
Unfortunately, many have either believed that or the other disinformation that folks are just now discovering it. I have been reporting accurately on that for 32 years. I don't have foundation funding and I do have a disabled husband. I did it over many obstacles that even you have no idea about.
As the old spiritual goes, "nobody knows what trouble I've seen, nobody knows but jesus".
I was ready years ago on my book on Solana, but when the disinformation about his grandfather Salvador de Madariaga being his uncle because their grandfathers were "cousins," and confusion was injected on his family tree, I withheld because I wanted total accuracy myself.
Frankly, anonymous, I suspect I know who you are and your sourness has alienated as many on this blog over the years as did Christine's and Joyce's comments.
Well, thank you for now making me angry. Depression slows me down. Anger sometimes speeds me up and increases my productivity. I got angry when I read H. G. Wells THE OPEN CONSPIRACY and the other New Age literature. I've been angry when I wrote most of my NewswithViews articles that were received as substantive information, i.e. "The Hi-Jacking of Evangelicalism," "Strange Alliance," etc., etc.
Pray for me, all of you, that the anger does not become an ungodly one!
Constance
Thank you, CRAIG, for the timely and excellent information on the SNAP program!
Constance
Solana pedigree confusion - I wonder
if this is because of incest being
slipped up and almost admitted and backpedalling?
Or was there some adoption shift in the family which would change descent line for some dynastic or inheritance issue?
Also some cultures don't use kinship language the same way we do. Even here, there can be variations, my grandmother's sister is my great aunt, but I always called her Auntie Anne.
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