My prayers are with all those adversely affected by these actions. I'm also sharing with you an old Barry McGuire youtube video song -- Eve of Destruction, It seems very pertinent today.
I fear that this could well be the start of World War III. Putin has threatened swift retaliation against any foreign power interfering with his invasion. There are those inside Russia who were also horrified and bravely demonstrating against it. I've been watching Al Jazeera's Youtube channel which has had fairly extensive coverage of the events. Rich of Medford recommended it as a somewhat better source of relatively unbiased coverage. There was reporting there that anti-war protestors in Russia had been arrested.
Often I have suspected we might be in the time of the Biblical seals of Revelation opening. The 4th seal was the Rider on the Pale Horse. Disease, fightings killings were shown there as taking many lives on Earth. The pandemic has remained upon us with still many, many serious illnesses and deaths since early 2020. New variants of that disease continue to appear. Recently, it was announced there was a serious new and highly contagious variant plaguing Denmark. All the other forms and variants quickly spread. This one will probably do so likewise here and abroad.
Such a sobering time and so many things happening. We need to remember what time it is and to put our trust in the Lord.
Stay in prayer and stay tuned!
Constance
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 963 Newer› Newest»An astute insight from Brandon Smith in the article about a large scale false flag cyber attack:
The globalists are unlikely to spend the past several decades building up one of the most complex technocratic control grids in history to track and dominate the public only to then annihilate it all in the blink of an eye with nukes. What is more likely, in my view, is a massive cyber-attack that targets the functionality of the internet itself, and it would have to happen relatively soon.
I wonder if anybody in the comments section is very good at understanding internet security and might be capable of writing a guest blog post about Cyber Polygon and send it to Constance for her consideration to post it her. I'm not qualified. Just a thought. I don't want to see us tear down her blog. Maybe we could help her build it up.
RayB, you've said similar things before:
It’s important to understand that most conflicts between the East and the West are engineered conflicts and the leaders of BOTH SIDES are not really at odds with each other. Rather, these wars are Kabuki Theater; they are wars of convenience to achieve covert ends while mesmerizing the masses with moments of terror and calamity. For anyone who has doubts about this, I highly recommend they read the thoroughly researched and evidenced works of professional historian and economist Antony Sutton, who quite accidentally stumbled onto the facts surrounding the globalist conspiracy and went on to expose their habit of playing both sides of nearly every war over the past century from the Bolshevik Revolution to WWII and onward.
Brandon Smith wrote this in his article, Order out of Chaos: How the Ukraine Conflict Is Designed to Benefit Globalists.
https://noqreport.com/2022/02/24/order-out-of-chaos-how-the-ukraine-conflict-is-designed-to-benefit-globalists/
Antony Sutton wrote about Skull and Bones.
Remember when George W. Bush and Kerry were running against each other but were both members of Skull and Bones? Remember how passionately some of us felt against George W. Bush. Yet look at Kerry now, who I voted for years ago, yuck. Lame and globalist and pushing for the Green New Deal and fretting that while people are dying in the war he still hopes Russia will be good boys when it comes to carbon credits.
But what about George W. Bush now? How do you like him now?
Why Did the World Economic Forum Just Delete the Cyber Polygon Project Off of Their Website?!
https://rumble.com/vwh7p7-hy-did-the-world-economic-forum-just-delete-the-cyber-polygon-project-off-o.html
J said: I'm taking another long break from posting.
But has posted 13 of the last 14 posts!
LOL
10:14 AM,
Obviously I changed my mind. Does it matter? What about the content of what I posted?
I felt sickened that maybe it was partially my fault that the blog commenters were turning on Constance.
Last night I was so disoriented and unmotivated. I don't know where my new resolve and clarity came from this morning. Sorry?
I'm not done yet. I'll say this and then I'll be done for a while. If X becomes the only friend Constance has among the commenters, you'll leave her with a serpent whispering in her ear. He is just like Wormtongue in Lord of the Rings.
She hasn't been following X as much as we have. I don't think she keeps up with the very high volume of comments on her blog at all times, and if she did, when would she have time to research or write anything?
I think she deserves another chance. She shouldn't be judged so quickly and so absolutely. If you push her she'll push back. It's her personality. It's how she did what she did. I couldn't have done it. She's a fighter and one who has been more isolated during COVID and then lost her husband. Recall she lives in Michigan and thus went through a lot of isolation during 2020. Isolation affects people. It's why prisoners are punished by putting them "in the hole."
"Just as Constance can't seem to imagine Paul Ryan supporting a pro-choice nominee, I can't imagine Biden nominating a pro-life nominee.
"I was more upset about Constance saying the only reason one would oppose Biden's nominee would probably be racism. I couldn't believe she would say that. The blind trust of Paul Ryan and Biden's nominee seemed stunning to me as well.
I see Constance as being closer to somebody like Joe Manchin, who is more like a 1950s era Democrat. It's a politics from yesteryear.""
This is 9:47 PM
Thanks for what you wrote.
I certainly understand where you are coming from.
The old Democrat guard is gone!!!
The problem: we have to draw a line of what & who we will support, enable, & defend. She moved closer to the progressives of late. Maybe reluctantly, maybe not. But is alarming to see her scoot closer to that camp that is absolutely, unabashedly, pro-abortion, all levels, all stages of human life-regardless-and the rest of the agenda that goes with it that is pro-queer whatevers of every alphabet kind, (and do read Jonathan Turley's writings on why Biden's appointee has some real issues from and with Constitutional ground, it is very telling) and the fiscal injustices of socialist, marxist reparations entities (that CRT is after) as it appears, is supported by that judge's (Biden's appointee) rulings already.....so it ALL part and parcel.
Sadly, Constance won't leave Trump out of it, that she has let that color her world--yes there are new age intrusions into the right--fight that--but not against those who still stand against the tyranny of the socialist globalist left and the deeply compromised status quo right!! They all love their governing way too much--and baby is out with the bathwater to stay with their thinking. And why babies die by the millions in this country. Have lost all semblance of righteousness & become monsters to do it. Shapes up more every damn day like the suits vs. the boots, the "empty suits" of D.C. & the "dirty boots" of regular America.
I find it alarming too, we are branded by the left as racists when we clearly are not-and she is talking their narrative to cast that accusation so casually on us with that ugly broad brush? That is not Constance of even 2 years ago.
Something has changed.
Do post when you feel you want to. I'm glad for your input. Don't listen to the naysayers. X is drunk on leftist poison speaking "christianese" social justice narratives ("can't we all just get along" poison that never turns toward better but worst), & you & some others are andedote to that.
And maybe Constance will come to her better senses again.
I pray, hope so. Compromises are not speaking well of her. And you are right that X needs a true conversion-2 Tim 3:5 fits him like a glove.
We must go outside the camp (like Jesus did) to stay, to stand, with righteous things, those things our Bibles tell us are so and if we are going to be real with that we must obey, stand with it.
Maybe she isn't willing anymore, just keep the established things & people (wretched D.C.) in the hopes of being kept comfortable in circumstances-I have seen older folks really resist & compromise because they don't like the upset of change--even for good things..I don't know if that is her story or not.
So, I am going to have to stand by the Bible--and it will cost me (and you). Hebrews 11 is full of instances of those kind of people. Who is on the Lord's side??? That is our question in my understanding.
And J, really..it isn't about politics in the long run-it isn't right or left in the bigger picture. anyway. The fast track or the slower one in left and right is still the wrong track overall.
I leave you with this blessed reminder: John 16: 33
"These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”
I felt sickened that maybe it was partially my fault that blog commenters were turning on Constance. Said J
That's ridiculous!!!! There have been commenters with major disagreements with Constance for many years.
J, your a nice person. You do seem to get unglued very easily however.
Guilt, and obsession are destructive. I know personally.
"He is just like Wormtongue in Lord of the Rings."
You got that right, J.
And another example to describe x is like Squealer the pig in Animal Farm.
Oh my goodness how this fits:
Every tyrant has his sycophants, and Napoleon has one in Squealer, a clever pig who (as the animals say) "could turn black into white." Throughout the novel, he serves as Napoleon's mouthpiece and Minister of Propaganda. Every time an act of Napoleon's is questioned by the other animals — regardless of how selfish or severe it may seem — Squealer is able to convince the animals that Napoleon is only acting in their best interests and that Napoleon himself has made great sacrifices for Animal Farm. For example, after Squealer is questioned about Napoleon's stealing the milk and windfallen apples, he explains that Napoleon and his fellow pigs must take the milk and apples because they "contain substances absolutely necessary to the well-being of a pig." He further explains that many pigs "actually dislike milk and apples" and tells the questioning animals, "It is for your sake that we drink that milk and eat those apples." His physical "skipping from side to side" during such explanations parallels his "skipping" words, which are never direct and always skirt the obvious truth of the matter at hand. As the novel proceeds, he excuses Napoleon's tyranny and sullies Snowball's reputation, just as Napoleon desires. The most outrageous demonstration of his "skipping" is when he convinces the animals that Boxer was taken to a veterinary hospital instead of the knacker's.
Dear J:
Please KNOW that the 'fault' (responsibility) does NOT fall on your shoulders.
In every 'family' there are strong differences of opinion. In recent days, more than one of us has openly expressed our frustration with Constance... but, no one is trying to 'tear down her blog' (although X is doing a good job of 'divide and conquer').
It was Constance ~ who by exposing the New Age Movement in "The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" nearly 40 years ago ~ taught ALL of us to dig deeper for information.
However, lately... some of us have reached different conclusions about various subjects (e.g. Covid vaccines, Donald Trump, Ukraine, etc.)
I have been posting here for the past 15 years and I don't plan on going anywhere... if for no other reason than to SHARE information with those 'silent observers out there' who may not ever post a comment... but will decide for THEMSELVES where the grains of TRUTH lie.
Meanwhile, I am praying for wisdom and understanding for ALL of us. AMEN.
False Flags are REAL / the U.S. has a long history of LYING to start wars
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2018/april/17/false-flags-are-real-us-has-a-long-history-of-lying-to-start-wars/
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Who is Volodymyr Zelenskyy?
He's the slapstick comedian with the physicality of a young Dudley Moore. He's the much-loved actor in a hit show about a teacher who becomes president. He's the Ukrainian voice of Paddington Bear in the recent movie series.
And now he's playing the role of a lifetime as president of his country, leading the nation with a certain dogged resolve in the face of the Russian invasion.
https://www.euronews.com/culture/2022/03/02/president-zelenskyy-the-actor-and-comedian-now-playing-the-role-of-a-lifetime
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Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelenskyy, born 25 January 1978, is a Ukrainian politician, former actor and comedian who is the sixth and current president of Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy
To J at 9:11 AM
When George W. Bush ran against John Kerry... the fact that BOTH were members of Yale Skull & Bones is PROOF that the GLOBALISTS want (more like demand) 'controlled opposition' in the White House!!!
GWB's father, George Herbert Walker Bush was a member of Yale Skull & Bones, too.
And Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar (which is also a secret society).
So... you can just imagine how UPSET (understatement of the year!) the Globalists were when Donald Trump managed to get himself elected President in 2016. HOW DARE HE... SINCE HE IS NOT ONE OF US!!!
AND... The Globalists were going to make sure that didn't happen AGAIN in the November election of 2020.
AND... How interesting that recent evidence is NOW revealing a STOLEN election in November, 2020.
AND... Those belonging to secret societies ALSO belong to the Bilderberg Group, the CFR (Counsel on Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission (with Democrats & Republicans 'on the same page' / as in 'controlled opposition').
So much for the WILL of the American people... and our so-called democracy!!!
Clarification: That second last paragraph should read "Council on Foreign Relatons."
March 5, 2022 from the American Thinker:
On Ukraine, Biden has painted himself into a corner
By David Reynolds
As a retired oilfield training engineer, I have traveled to 38 different countries. I have worked in Russia and China. I have never been in Ukraine but I have been in Romania, which is just across the border. Not once in my travels to these countries has any of their citizens come to me and said, “We love Americans and want them to like us. To promote greater friendship with America, we make American visitors feel welcome. To do so, we give them large sums of money. We would like to give you three million dollars. Yours is in this package. We hope you enjoy it and remember your friends here.”
It’s different when you’re Hunter Biden. Hunter, who had little or no experience in management and none in the oil industry, went to Ukraine and a Ukrainian oil company instantly hired him with a salary of eighty thousand dollars a month. While Hunter was there, then-Vice President of the United States Joe Biden happened to notice that the Ukrainian government was investigating the oil company his son worked for. Joe felt the investigation was unfair and brought pressure on the Ukrainians to stop the investigation and fire the investigators.
Next, Hunter happened to make friends with some Russians and meet the Moscow mayor’s wife. Hunter, who is an outgoing young man, impressed her. She felt sorry for him having to struggle through life on eighty thousand dollars a month, so she reached in her purse and handed him three million dollars. She didn’t have any spools of thread in her purse, so there were no strings attached.
(continued)
Back home, Hunter’s Daddy Joe was getting ready to make a trip to China. There was plenty of room on the plane, so he asked Hunter to join him on the trip. Hunter, thinking the trip would give him the opportunity to have a few drinks and an authentic Peking duck dinner, gladly accepted the offer. While Hunter was walking around looking in the Forbidden City, he happened to meet some Chinese who out of kindness gave him thirty million dollars.
Hunter told friends that he gave half of the money to his dad, the “Big Guy.” The Big Guy, though, has said he didn’t know anything about Hunter’s business operations. As the father of two engineers who make decent salaries, I believe I’d start asking questions if either one of them came to me and said, “Dad, I’ve really been lucky and made a lot of money. I want to give you a few million dollars.” Of course, Joe is a bit senile so it may not have occurred to him to ask where the money came from.
Now, let’s update the Biden experience. Putin started moving troops to the Ukrainian border and it looked as if he was planning a military operation against Ukraine. We don’t know if Biden asked Putin to stop the operation or not, but he didn’t have sufficient influence to get Putin to stop.
(continued)
In his next move, Biden went to his friends the Chinese, who are on good terms with the Russians, and asked them to talk Putin out of invading Ukraine. The Chinese, who would not be affected by a Russian military operation in Ukraine, promptly went to Putin and told him that Biden had told them he won’t do much about it if Putin invaded Ukraine.
Now, Putin has invaded Ukraine and Biden hasn’t done anything that could be regarded as more than a slap on the wrist and people can’t understand why. Here’s why: Biden can’t do anything because he has painted himself into a corner. If he makes any serious moves affecting either Russia or Ukraine, there are three nations that have the ability to air the dirty laundry about how the Biden family gained its wealth. This would lead to Bidens’s impeachment and several members of his family going to prison.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/03/on_ukraine_biden_has_painted_himself_into_a_corner.html
Posted verbatim and without comment.
J,
You do realize Brandon Smith is a heretical dominionist. He has been a member and writer for the anti-American unpatriotic Oath Keepers for years based out of Eureka, Montana.
They are not based in reality. They choose to live in fear while preparing themselves for a pure Marxist - eat the rich -dystopian fantasy they hope to instigate.
Maybe you stated this already but are you a dominionist?
x
p.s. - Who are you to criticize my faith and call me names? I haven't even seen that dark arts movie to get that reference. Shame on you. I have been nothing but respectful towards you personally. So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth?
Repost due to its importance.
The Pfizer Vaccine Only Has 1,291 Side Effects!
A judge FORCED the FDA to release Pfizer's clinical data and it's worse than you can possibly imagine
by Emerald Robinson
Mar 4, 2022
The FDA was forced by a judge to release clinical data on the COVID vaccines back in January and so 55,000 pages of documents were just released. The FDA had originally wanted to hide the data for 75 years and release it in 2096 because, of course, the FDA is basically engaged in a criminal conspiracy. The COVID vaccines should never have been approved. This was obvious from the very beginning when animal trials were skipped in the Trump Administration’s ill-fated “Operation War Speed.” And now it’s undeniably true. We have the clinical data, and it’s horrific.
Hiding out in one appendix is the clinical data for Pfizer’s vaccine — which lists 1,291 ADVERSE SIDE EFFECTS IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER, and, it's 9 pages in SMALL PRINT.
Let’s give you just the bad things that can happen to people who took the Pfizer vaccine that start with the letter “a” to enjoy:
Go to the article here in order to see just a sampling of the PARTIAL list:
https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/the-pfizer-vaccine-only-has-1291?s=r
NOTE: No wonder the FDA was fighting to have this information SEALED for 75 years !
J called it. She is wise about many things..
And a whole lot of us here concur.
You have shown us repeatedly who you are by the associations you keep.
By the evil you excuse and even promote. By the stands you take, who you get behind and cheer on.
Your smear of us who differ from you, and it's constant so deal with it when we dish it back to you, x.
You are a friend to no one here.
And no friend to Jesus. That's why you can participate with evil people and plans as you have shown us that you are all to happy to do.
2 Tim 3:5 fits you like a glove.
"I have been nothing but respectful towards you personally."
Not true.
You were insulting to J regarding something she referenced posting about a family circumstance.
I thought at the time..well, it looks like J's turn to be smeared by x.
You have been scathing. Nasty. And all unnecessary, but that doesn't stop you.
Your reputation stinks here.
And RayB is right..you're an outlandish liar. You pointedly make your deeply held prejudices felt, your virtue signaling negativity, is arrogant, you speak terribly against people and circumstances you do not know, even remotely, but that doesn't stop you either.
And your junk sources (very often refuted immediately), over the top misapplied stats and strawmen/red herrings to wage wars with words, are laughable.
You're not an easy going guy, you're a bitter, spiteful, self-righteous, attention hound.
You have given this blog lots of material to dump right back in your lap.
Way to "christian", bro.
BIG TECH LOVES NAZIS NOW: Facebook reverses position on previously censored neo-Nazi “Azov Battalion” of Ukrainian military, will now allow it to be praised amid Russian invasion
Like all left-wing big tech platforms and their Democrat cheerleaders, Facebook is run by monumental hypocrites who pick and choose sides in issues based not on any moral compass but rather on political expediency.
For example, the platform has regularly banned and censored Nazi personification and worship, which, of course, most people agree is a good thing. But after Russia invaded Ukraine last week, Facebook has reversed course and is making a “narrow exemption” — again, for political purposes.
As reported by The National Pulse, the platform “is reversing a ban on users praising Ukraine’s Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion, previously included in the platform’s Dangerous Individuals and Organizations policy, amidst Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.”
According to internal memos from the platform, which regularly censors mainstream conservative content, Facebook will “allow praise of the Azov Battalion when explicitly and exclusively praising their role in defending Ukraine OR their role as part of the Ukraine’s National Guard.”
Internally published examples of speech that Facebook is now going to accept include “Azov movement volunteers are real heroes, they are a much needed support to our national guard”; “We are under attack. Azov has been courageously defending our town for the last 6 hours”; and “I think Azov is playing a patriotic role during this crisis,” noted The Intercept, which was the outlet that obtained the company memos.
“For the time being, we are making a narrow exception for praise of the Azov Regiment strictly in the context of defending Ukraine, or in their role as part of the Ukraine National Guard,” a spokesperson from Facebook’s parent company Meta explained.
“But we are continuing to ban all hate speech, hate symbolism, praise of violence, generic praise, support, or representation of the Azov Regiment, and any other content that violates our community standards,” the spokesperson added, in a statement to Business Insider, according to The National Pulse.
The shift in policy comes after years of heavy censorship of stories exposing, or that were critical of, the Democrat Party and its major players. Twitter, for instance, literally blocked stories ahead of the 2020 election exposing Joe and Hunter Biden as being corrupt patrons of Ukraine and China, and locked the newspaper reporting it — the New York Post — out of its account.
Meanwhile, the social media platforms also bar criticism of Big Pharma companies, the Chinese Communist Party, and any ‘unacceptable’ views and legitimate science regarding the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccines — but suddenly, Facebook will permit praise of a Ukrainian military unit that is know for it’s “hardcore right-wing ultranationalism and the neo-Nazi ideology pervasive among its members,” The Intercept noted.
“Russia’s all-out assault on the truth intensified this week, with the country’s leading independent radio station, Echo of Moscow, silenced, and the website of an independent streaming television channel, TV Rain, blocked, as both broadcasters refused to echo the government line that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is not a war,” according to The Intercept in a separate report.
Russia is edging Europe toward a third world war.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-03-05-facebook-reverses-position-censored-neo-nazi-azov-battalion-of-ukrainian-military.html
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-03-04/what-isnt-being-talked-about
Worse than we think....
Calling out X at 3:00 AM
Re: "If you called me a BLM libertarian it really wouldn't bother me. I'm not black but I'm much more sympathetic to their plight than all the maga/qanon fabricated fears. At least they were protesting real persecution of real people versus maga/qanon attempting a coup based upon the outlandish completely unsubstantiated lies of a known lifelong reprobate.
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X says that 'it really wouldn't bother' him to be called 'BLM' even though . . .
This article from August, 2016 (6 years ago) provides evidence that evil Billionaire George Soros FUNDED Black Lives Matter.
https://thenewamerican.com/hacked-documents-soros-funded-black-lives-matter/
Why didn't Soros use his money to 'better the lives' of Black people???
While BLM could have used that $650,000 to actually improve the lives of black residents of America’s inner cities by initiating job training, educational, and violence prevention programs, the money was used for its intended purpose: the fomenting of more “unrest” in the form of violent “protests” that were little more that staged riots. And it has been successful in shifting political power. It has also, undoubtedly, fomented the war on police, leading to the deaths of police officers and the black citizens they work to protect.
"While BLM could have used that $650,000 to actually improve the lives of black residents of America’s inner cities by initiating job training, educational, and violence prevention programs, the money was used for its intended purpose: the fomenting of more “unrest” in the form of violent “protests” that were little more that staged riots."
While President Donald Trump worked with many different kinds of leadership in black communities to bring real advancement to their neighborhoods-reverse the trend of lockdowns of oppression to keep them on the "plantations" of Democrat politics and grant them real opportunities and why so many of the black community voted for him because they saw real hope through what he and their communities were able to work together to do.
The shift in political power was trying to change to betterment but Soros dollars, did then what it still does today...all it can do to keep black people oppressed, upset, angry and depleted...all to gain unbridled political power.
Soros, and those who support what he does, will answer.
Hell is gonna be so hot.
"But what about George W. Bush now? How do you like him now?
9:11 AM"
I felt ambivalence before.
Now I just feel that I can't stand to look at him.
A Globalist is a globalist is a globalist is a globalist... whether it's a Bush Republican (father or son); a Clinton Democrat (Bill or Hillary); an Obama Democrat; or a Biden Democrat.
They are not interested in serving the Americaan people ~ only themselves. Follow the money.
Very well said, 6:56 PM!!!
Ultimately, we are not in a battle between Democrats vs Republicans.
We are in a spiritual battle between GOOD vs EVIL
And there is good and evil in BOTH political parties.
The real reasons why Ukraine is so important To Biden, Clinton and their ‘global crime cabal’: Ukraine is their ‘little crime playground’ where their devastating secrets are hidden
And while we could never see what’s happening in Ukraine going on for 10 to 20 years with Russia’s unstoppable hypersonic nuclear missiles and the potential of an EMP or two that sends America and Europe back to the dark ages thrown into the mix, we get several HUGE pieces of the puzzle into what is REALLY going on in Ukraine, and why, if we look back at news stories over the past several years.
As we’ll explore within this ANP story, Ukraine is nothing less than the ‘Playground‘ of the ‘global elite crime cabal‘ that ‘runs the world‘, with huge amounts of drugs and human trafficking being run out of the country, along with their ‘world disinfo/control‘ operation, and Ukraine also gives them a ‘front doorstep‘ into Russia, not a word of any of this reported by their ‘controlled‘ mainstream media.
Each of the videos at the bottom of this story take looks at various aspects of that ‘Ukrainian cabal playground‘ that Joe Biden is risking America’s nuclear annihilation over, with the 1st video below featuring US Army Colonel Doug MacGregor joining former US Senator Trey Gowdy on Fox News and telling him and America that the Ukrainian government is deeply corrupt, and Biden and America definitely shouldn’t help them.
Yet it appears another one of the ‘real reasons‘ that Biden will most likely get America involved in the ‘quagmire‘ there is because there are some absolutely devastating ‘Biden family secrets‘ hidden in Ukraine, as well as secrets held by the ‘global crime cabal‘, secrets that Russia could possibly get ahold of if they take Ukraine if they haven’t all been destroyed by then.
And just listen to the desperation and panic in the voices of Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi as heard in these linked twitter videos. What are they hiding? After everything that’s now happening we can surely see that the globalist crime cabal playground runs deep in Ukraine.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-03-04-reasons-ukraine-important-biden-clinton-crime-cabal.html
"https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-03-04/what-isnt-being-talked-about
Worse than we think....
6:27 PM"
Don't miss this.
Meanwhile, in U.S. Bio-weapons labs in Ukraine......
Is there more to the Ukraine/Russia conflict than meets the eye?
Russia specifically firing on U.S. military "defense?" installations (Bio Labs) in Ukraine.
https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/02/24/is-there-is-more-to-the-ukraine-russia-conflict/
Just realized I didn't post the link to 4:47 PM
Here are results on one of them there "hokey" cures, aka horse paste, aka the treatment that became unavailable, due to threats of loss of license for prescribing it here in the good ol' USA and other freedom-loving 'democracies' 'round the globe. Oh, and the study was from January 1, 2020 through July 11, 2021, so we're getting it a bit late it seems. Well, perhaps not really, since the pandemic is pretty much over and we've got that war as distraction, conveniently. And we know all about the short attention spans these days, anyways. Heck, I think it's even racist somehow in some quarters to even talk about this here "hokey" thing. But, Dr. John Campbell is talking about it (well, he kinda looks and sounds "hokey", doesn't he?). And the vlog has the de rigueur banner directing us to where to find the "latest information" from the Ministry of Untruth, lest we be led astray:
Ivermectin in Florida and Brazil
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X,
If you think I might've been ignoring you, you just might be correct.
Who would have ever thought that the Good Old USA had 8 ... count them ... 8 USA Military Bio Weapons Laboratories scattered around in Ukraine? The very same Ukraine that is a border country of Russia. It kind of makes me wonder that maybe Putin knew more about Ukraine than the thoroughly informed Americans do (note heavy dose of sarcasm).
Mr. Evil himself, George Soros, and the rest of his Globalist ilk, are all enthusiastic supporters of Ukraine ... another item to ponder.
PS: Has anyone seen the vile video of Ukraine President Zelensky 'playing the piano'? WARNING: it's gross, as in sicko gross.
Maria Bartiromo blasts Moderna over allegations of patenting a genetic sequence derived from COVID three years prior to plandemic
Must see video of Maria's interview with Moderna's president...
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-03-06-bartiromo-blasts-moderna-patenting-covid-genetic-sequence.html
RayB,
Be sure to thoroughly explore the articles. There is incredible insight in them. Even looking at the pictures that say are current 2022 pictures that our media replicates, but you can see the same pictures are actually from 2015, other dates. There is a ton of information there and several pieces of archived info by Ukraine Embassy. Things that "fact checkers" say is not true (because they've been deleting them on Google) but in fact it is. It is archived documentation and shown on the Embassy page.
The media's complicity is, of course, very purposeful. Also the meetings at the U.N. months before the war began where Putin addressed concerns of the U.S. Bio Lab military "defense" installations are archived also.
The world is certainly being sold a bill of goods. Soros (and Biden) is heavily invested in Ukraine..what does that tell us???'Putin is up to no good, I'm sure..our government and Europe are up to no good as well...all the the expense of the regular folks of Ukraine.
Lots of weird going on.....
I think it is all setting the stage for that huge "reset".
530
Craig,
No worries.
I like dr Campbell but this analysis is kind of odd. Remdesiver wasn’t approved for use until Oct 22, 2020 and covid didn’t even really start until March of 2020 so why they were studying a comparison of ivermectin and Remesiver way back before the pandemic even started in January 2020?
Also, I’ve not read the entire study but comparing anyone that’s taken ivermectin (average age 51.9) to much older patients that were sick enough to be prescribed Remdesiver isn’t really telling us all that much. Maybe I’ll look it over more this week if more as people more interested in debunking weak studies make more detailed analysis.
The Brazil study had already been widely criticized as lacking.
Compared to well over 95% effectiveness of covid vaccines it still seems our health officials made the correct call.
X
While RayB keeps hitting those Qanon & Russian propaganda talking points.
X
X,
The Brazil study had not yet been peer-reviewed. It has now been. The specific criticisms had to do mainly with supposed exaggerated claims in the pre-print version.
The fact that Remdesivir was not yet approved does not mean it could not have been used in a clinical trial, does it?
RayB and J:
Please don't miss this video / interview with Juan O'Savin for his perpective on what is happening in Ukraine (and much more)!!! Very interesting...
https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2022/03/juan-o-savin-crucial-situation-update-with-meri-crouley-must-see-video-3768682.html
A friend of mine, retired now occasional traveler (not so much recently), found this Russian vlogger a few years ago. He posts about daily Russian life. Here he discusses the current financial situation for the average Russian. It's bad. And he uses strong language to express this (the delicate are forewarned):
RUSSIA VS SANCTIONS: how they affect regular Russians
at 7:22 PM
How would you know?
You're too busy, preoccupied, licking elite's toes..
Latest VAERS statistics on Vaccine deaths, due to "adverse reactions." Keep this in mind; as bad as these "official" figures are, THE REAL DEATH COUNT IS MUCH WORSE!
65,615 Deaths Now Reported in Europe and the USA Following COVID-19 Vaccines – CORPORATE MEDIA REFUSES TO PUBLISH THIS DATA
"Here at the beginning of March, 2022, official government health statistics in Europe and the United States are reporting that 65,615 people have now died following COVID-19 injections."
"These are “passive” reporting systems, so the true lives lost is much higher. One study estimates that the unreported factor for COVID-19 vaccine injuries and deaths is 41X, which would put these totals at closer to 2.8 MILLION deaths, and that is just in the U.S. and certain countries in Europe."
https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/65615-deaths-now-reported-in-europe-and-the-usa-following-covid-19-vaccines-corporate-media-refuses-to-publish-this-data/
Yes, Craig at 8:07 PM...
Also, sanctions always hurt the ordinary every day people, who didn't sign up for this war... and have no control over decisions made by their country's leaders.
Oliver Stone's Recently Banned 2014 Movie "Ukraine on Fire"
Ukraine. Across its eastern border is Russia and to its west Europe. For centuries, it has been at the center of a tug-of-war between powers seeking to control its rich lands and access to the Black Sea. 2014 s Maidan Massacre triggered a bloody uprising that ousted president Viktor Yanukovych and painted Russia as the perpetrator by Western media. But was it? Ukraine on Fire by Igor Lopatonok provides a historical perspective for the deep divisions in the region which lead to the 2004 Orange Revolution, 2014 uprisings, and the violent overthrow of democratically elected Yanukovych. Covered by Western media as a people s revolution, it was in fact a coup d état scripted and staged by nationalist groups and the U.S. State Department.
More...
https://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2022/03/oliver-stones-recently-banned-movie-ukraine-on-fire-2528574.html
MIND GAMES: War in Ukraine designed to distract people away from COVID plandemic and vaccine deaths
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-03-05-ukraine-war-distract-focus-from-covid-plandemic.html
"J said...
...while Jesus was alive, He said that Satan was bound at that time. That was why he was able to cast out demons. The Apostles learned to their joy that He gave them authority to do the same.
Another reference to "bound" made it clear that it meant the nations could no longer be deceived. The context was about spreading the gospel.
It wasn't a "white magic" type of Wicca understanding. We should let the Bible interpret the Bible."
I don;t know where you get this white magic interpretation idea from. I am relying on the Bible, always did, and if I noticed some very few things the new age exploits were supported by the Bible that is your problem. This link showsJesus LIMITED satan while Jesus was there dealing with a situation.
https://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2011/01-05a.html
cites Luke 10:17-20 NIV
'17 The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.”
18 He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. 20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”"
Again this doesn't show the devil as fully bound but can be trampled on by those empowered to do so.
AS USUAL, there is this sloppy phrasing "while Jesus was alive" uh, like He isn't alive now? I think it would be better to say "before His death and Resurrection." I have fallen to this habit of speaking also in the past, but Jesus is permanently physically resurrected, alive.
there would be no temptation of demonic sort if the devil were fully bound. Someone suggested the millenial binding has ended but what we hear about now was going on at variou times all along, and since when do you see everyone in all nations converted to Jesus Christ?
"Anonymous said...
Hal Lindsey is more on target than Christine's interpretation.
Revelation 20 blows her interpretation to pieces."
That is exactly the Scripture I base my interpretation on, that satan is only fully bound after the Second Coming WHICH HAPPENS IN REVELATION 19.
even alternative media says Russia annexed and invaded Crimea. I watched the events on MSM which now forgets it.
Crimea declared independence from Ukraine, then asked Russia to take it back in, having been Russian for 300 years until Kruschev changed that.
"I figured Rayb and all the others here still neck-deep in the multitude of Q conspiracies, such as "The Big Lie" 2020 election, child sex trafficking in Ukraine and all the anti-vaxx disinformation among others might benefit from reading the story of someone that got out of Qanon. Not all of you have parents still around to help deprogram you, but try to lean on and into other family members as you extract yourself from the grip of new age belief."
THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE NEW AGE BELIEF IN THIS LIST. (And New Age is partly right on a very very few things and uses them as bait to trap you in the rest.)
QAnon's conspiracies are already well atested before QAnon got going, it merely exploited them. And the hope that someone might be doing something about it. The mrna vax thig got to be an issue after QAnon of course, but the sources are medical doctors and people who worked for Pfizer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymdIC5EJgQk
The story of Russia and Ukraine and the cause of the military operation.
"Natural News" is new age oriented as a site, but individual articles and sources are often another matter. Its not a favorite of mine however.
Truth through Humor ... J P Sears does a number on Klaus Schwab:
Is Klaus Schwab the Most Dangerous Man in the World…
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/is-klaus-schwab-the-most-dangerous-man-in-the-world/
NOTE: No doubt, someone will come along and make the claim that Schwab (and Soros, the CFR, the WEF, the world's Central Banks, the Club of Rome, and Communist China, etc., etc.) are all getting their marching orders from one Javier Solana, who is just 'waiting in the wings' for just the right moment in order to announce to the world that he is 'god,' and then the whole world will believe him and then 'worship' him as 'god.' Of course, it all seems so plausible. Old Javier had better hurry up because he'll be 80 in July, and, worse yet, he isn't looking very healthy. Another slight problemo, we also need to get that fictional 3rd. Temple built el pronto, in that it is there that old Javier will be declaring himself to be 'god.'
I hope I'm not missing anything ... I'll go and do a deep dive into my Scofield Reverence Bible in order to find out what I should believe and I'll temper that with some Hal Lindsey along with a handful of 'Left Behind" movies.
Here is Christine posting intelligently, and with capital letters and punctuation! Yet she is limited to one post a week? While troll X posts unlimited ultra left wing propaganda in mass quantities?
Care to explain why Rich?
Anon 9:55 AM
This is Constance's blog. I am not about to order any restrictions upon anyone. If you take issue with another poster pick up the phone and call Constance yourself.
RayB @9:41 AM
In 2007 and 2008 I spent the summer traveling around Europe. I met many locals, and I often asked them if they had heard of Javier Solana? Roughly 1 in 10 had heard the name, (and that is a generous estimate), but I can only remember one of them, that knew what office he held!
At the same time, Europe was gripped by Obama mania. Often, when someone asked me where I was from, and I told them the U.S., they would give me a big smile,and a thumbs up, and say OBAMA!!!
UKC News: Is West`s Virtue Signaling on Ukraine Mass Formation Psychosis?
21stcenturywire.com/2022/03/04/ukc-news-western-virtue-signaling-on-ukraine-is-mass-formation-psychosis/
Alabama Gas Station Manager Says He Removes Five Or Six Biden 'I Did That's Stickers From Gas Pumps Each Day
legalinsurrection.com/2022/03/alabama-gas-station-manager-says-he-removes-five-or-six-biden-i-did-that-stickers-from-gas-pumps-each-day/
Chuck Schumer Pushes $1.5 Billion for Gun Control: 'We Need Full Impact'
https://neonnettle.com/news/18164-chuck-schumer-pushes-1-5-billion-for-gun-control-we-need-full-impact-
Thank you, Christine, for your well thought out comments. I went searching again for what I could find about the exegesis of Bible verses about the binding of Satan.
Ligonier Ministries was associated with the late RC Sproul. This is the best exegesis of the binding of Satan that I have found so far. It is written from an amillennialist perspective.
The Binding of Satan
https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/binding-satan
"Of course, it all seems so plausible. Old Javier had better hurry up because he'll be 80 in July, and, worse yet, he isn't looking very healthy. Another slight problemo, we also need to get that fictional 3rd. Temple built el pronto, in that it is there that old Javier will be declaring himself to be 'god.'"
I don't think he, or whomever he has groomed for that role as man of sin, (or will know until such time as it happens that whomever is of Satan because satn will enter the man of sin to do what he will, but I don't think he'll need the 3rd temple because part of the deal with Israel will be to promise they can build it, but he will betray them. (Jesus does that when He comes to rule is what I believe anyhow) but he need only to go stand on a sacred spot (a spot regarded as sacred to people)--somewhere at or on Temple Mount to declare that the world doesn't need God--but him and his big plans for peace and security for Israel and the world because peace at that place (of the 3 big religions should end all wars perhaps?)..so he'll be speaking great swelling words of what his global power can do for the entire world. (btw Moses was 80 when he led Israel of old). The man of sin's age won't matter if he is empowered by the devil..
We shall see what God does in how things shape up. I personally think this is not far out at all now. And another cycle of "covenant" dealings with Israel will be coming up again on the EU roster. If it is according to God's plan as He spoke in His Word, it will unfold precisely as God has said it will...that we part know for sure.
To X regarding Brandon Smith. I had no idea he had any association with the Oath Keepers. I searched and found that he is. I found not one shred of evidence that he is a Dominionist. I have found a few hints that he has Christian beliefs. He openly wondered if divine intervention rendered COVID-19 less deadly in practice than it was in the Event 201 gaming of the pandemic.
I read through dozens upon dozens of articles but did not find a single one in which he advocated political violence. I did find that he advocates for community preparedness and separation of conservatives from progressives.
What interested me was that he predicted the Ukraine war, and now he is predicting Cyber Polygon was a gaming of a planned cyber attack.
The supply chain will be impacted even more. The economy is under great stress. COVID-19 responses had already put it under great stress. Rising oil prices are making it worse. Supply chain problems from internet outages will put even greater stress on the economy.
Obviously the greater the economic stress the more likely a Great Reset would be possible. The phoenix from the ashes, order out of chaos, crisis=opportunity, etc.
I agree 2:29 PM
It won't be long now until the AC is revealed. It's palpable!
Craig,
I was looking today at all the University of Miami doctors cited in that Ivermectin study you cited wondering why it was done by 4 plastic surgeons, one urologist, and a single doctor of infectious disease. That one infectious disease guy, Dr. Jose Gonzalez (actually it's Gonzales) Zamora appears to be the only actual expert who has been regularly interviewed as a covid expert throughout South America. I'd just started a cursory look into his background to see if there was any readily apparent bias (like membership in Dr. Kory's group of quackery) when I saw all this on his Twitter feed.
https://twitter.com/JoseGonzalesZa1/with_replies
On Dec 17, 2021 he tweeted this: "Treatment with IVERMECTIN has been the main factor that led to the worst public health DISASTER in the history of PERU, but it continues to be administered in EsSalud for COVID-19."
On February 18th, 2022 Dr. Zamora tweeted this: "Clinical trial published today in JAMA magazine. Results: IVERMECTIN DOES NOT WORK. Where are the scientists of twitter fans of ivermectin, did they lose the INTERNET?"
On March 5th, 2022: @JoseGonzalesZa1 tweeted this in response to that study Craig posted going viral: "I am ONE of the authors of the study. This "retrospective" study looks for ASSOCIATION, not causality. Now that we have randomized clinical trials, we can say with certainty that IVERMECTIN DOES NOT WORK AT ALL FOR COVID. I recommend to read the conclusions of the abstract."
Here's the study he was referring tweet:
Efficacy of Ivermectin Treatment on Disease Progression Among Adults With Mild to Moderate COVID-19 and Comorbidities
The I-TECH Randomized Clinical Trial"
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2789362
Extract:
Conclusions and Relevance: In this randomized clinical trial of high-risk patients with mild to moderate COVID-19, ivermectin treatment during early illness did not prevent progression to severe disease. The study findings do not support the use of ivermectin for patients with COVID-19."
x
p.s. - For a full debunking of the remdesiver study, including more tweets from Dr. Zamora which retrospectively refute his own investigation see (I did not see this until now - but they cover things I also mentioned seeing in that study as problematic)
https://pubpeer.com/publications/C22C85359DADC1C9CFEEE56B2EA7E6
THE NEW YORK TIMES, FLOUNDERING IN THE DEEP WATERS OF TRUTH AND DESPERATELY TRYING TO STAY AFLOAT IN THE SHALLOWS BY CONTINUING ITS HISTORY OF LYING FOR ITS CIA MASTERS, HAS JUST PUBLISHED A FRONT PAGE OF PROPAGANDA WORTHY OF THE FINEST HOUSE ORGANS OF TOTALITARIAN REGIMES
https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/82061/the-new-york-times-disgraceful-and-deceitful-attack-on-rfk.html
Quack doctor X. X-spurt of a different kind of Horse Paste.
The raw organic kind.
🐴
“Fictional third temple”
Do you all just throw out scripture you find inconvenient?
Revelation 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Putin's invasion grinds to a halt
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10585145/Ukraine-war-Zelensky-declares-god-not-forgive-Russians-target-civilians.html
The Holy Place.
Yes, but it is there already without the Temple surrounding it..yet.
The Temple Mount is considered holy and why orthodox Jews don't want Jews up there for fear of standing at a place on it that is holy and incur a curse for doing so.
This by the way is a very interesting take about the Holy of Holies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaxGnuUIeDQ
Th golden dome is currently where the court of the Gentiles was..and not considered sacred.
I think the Temple Mount will get measured and divided up (as per Rev 11) by Anti-Christ to appease the Jews, the Christians (apostate Christianity maybe represented by the Pope?) and the Muslims as political capital in the interest of "peace and security (safety)", and set the stage for the biggest betrayal of all at that place which would amount to touching the "apple of God's Eye".
On the north face is a "face" : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golgotha--again_(2819155401).jpg
(And it appears "to be looking at us"--wow)
There is a parking lot there now but you can still see the striking image of the skull in the side of the hill....
At 4:31 PM and set the stage for the biggest betrayal of all at that place which would amount to touching the "apple of God's Eye".
And I meant to include regarding this statement - tantamount to - equivalent of..the abomination of desolation.
Somebody where they really really! don't belong.
Will AC stand like that i a place like that as in Matt 24 (also compare to Luke 21 and Mark 13)
???
One has to wonder........
Anon @ 3:35 PM ...
No one is "throwing out Scipture." Unlike the rest of the New Testament, Revelation is written with a LOT of symbolic language. When reading it, that fact needs to be kept in the forefront.
Regarding your reference to Matthew 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)" The 'holy place' has been INTERPRETED to mean the 3rd. Temple by Dispensationalists. However, historically, that is not the orthodox interpretation. For your consideration (and for others):
THE ABOMINATION AND THE FLIGHT OF THE CHRISTIANS
One of the most amazing aspects of the Siege of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. was that not one single Christian perished in the conflict, the reason for this being as we shall see, that they heeded a warning prophecy of Jesus uttered over forty years earlier, concerning the Abomination of Desolation. Let us trace the events as they are outlined for us in the writings of Josephus.
Strange events and portents of doom had begun to take place in the city of Jerusalem as early as 62 A.D. Strange sounds were heard and lights seen shining over the Temple in the dead of night. The huge Eastern Gate which had been barred for years with iron planks had opened at midnight and during the Feast of Pentecost that year there had been a minor earth tremor. Then there appeared in the city a seemingly demented prophet, the son of Ananius, who daily cried out a message of warning and impending doom in the city streets:-
"A voice from the East, a voice from the West, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, a voice against this whole people. Woe, Woe to this holy house and to this people."
(continued)
When the Jews subsequently broke into revolt some four and a half years later, his previously apparently insane ravings began to have a ring of truth to them and when the Roman armies of Cestius Gallus surrounded Jerusalem and prepared to lay siege to it, the Christians recalled the warning prophecies of Jesus, uttered a generation earlier. Here are three accounts of His message as recorded in the Gospels.
A) "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whoso readeth, let him understand). Then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains. Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take anything out of his house. Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days. But pray ye that your flight be not in winter neither on the Sabbath day for then shall be great tribulation."
Matthew 24:15-21
B) "But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not (let him that readeth understand) then let them that be in Judea flee to the mountains. And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house neither enter therein to take anything out of his house. And let him that is in the field not turn back again to take up his garment. But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days. And pray ye that your flight be not in winter, for in those days shall be affliction:'
Mark 13:14-19
C) "When ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judea flee to the mountains and let them which are in the midst of it depart out . . . for these be the days of vengeance.,"
Luke 21:20-22
(continued)
By harmonising these three Gospel accounts we see that where Matthew and Mark referred to the Abomination of Desolation, Luke referred to the Roman armies; they were one and the same thing. The Christians in Jerusalem realised this, but surrounded by the Legions of Cestius Gallus, flight seemed to be impossible. Then by a miracle, or as Josephus puts it, "for no apparent reason," the Roman commander and his forces withdrew. The forces of the Jewish Zealots pursued the retreating Romans, attacking them with such ferocity that they were faced with total destruction. The Jews believed they had won a great victory, but the Christians knew that the
Legions of Rome would return, and that now was their chance to heed the words of Christ. They fled the city of Jerusalem and its neighbourhood, not even taking time to gather their possessions. They took to the mountains, and eventually according to the historians Eusebius and Ephiphanius they reached safety at Pella and other places beyond the River Jordan. Not one Christian perished in the bloody siege which followed.
What became of the prophet of woe? Josephus tells us that after proclaiming his message for some seven and a half years, he was killed by a stone from a Roman siege engine as he stood on the walls of the embattled city, still proclaiming woe to it and to the Holy Temple.
Taken verbatim from:
Abomination Of Desolation ~ The Historicist View
https://www.christianforums.com/threads/abomination-of-desolation-the-historicist-view.7847174/
The Temple Institute says it can be built without destroying other structures.
https://www.jpost.com/jewish-world/jewish-features/can-third-temple-be-built-without-destroying-dome-of-the-rock
The Abraham House construction started in 2020 and is now open in 2022. The construction of the third temple is not out of the question.
https://www.adjaye.com/work/the-abrahamic-family-house/
RayB's explanation makes no sense to me as I read the scripture in context. 70 AD doesn't fit.
Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
RayB 4:48 PM,
Excellent summary. I would add that the New Testament calls the bodies of believers the temple in at least five different places.
Revelation 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the BODY OF BELIEVERS of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the court which is without the BODY OF BELIEVERS leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Yeah, makes perfect sense now. X is sounding more trustworthy than you all now.
It makes sense in context of the transition from Old Covenant to New Covenant.
P.S. What makes no sense is that the animal sacrifices that were only shadows of the once and for all sacrifice of Jesus would need to be reinstated by Jesus when He returns.
Anon @ 4:51 PM ...
Many that hold to the following viewpoint do not know that there will be "blood sacrifices" during the 'Millennium.' Consider the following:
Dispensationalism (aka, Scofieldism, Darbyism) and Premillennialism declares that the 3rd. Temple MUST be rebuilt, because it is there, that for 1,000 years, Christ will "teach the nations," and, that the ritual of the BLOOD SACRIFICE of animals will be reinstated. Some claim that these sacrifices will 'only' be for the purpose of showing the people the 'seriousness of sin,' while others claim that it will actually have 'some' propitiation for sin.
The Bible clearly teaches that Christ died ONCE in a never to be repeated sacrifice for the sins of His people.
In a very real sense, the reinstitution of animal sacrifices is a denial of Christ's sacrifice on the cross ... because ... it is an ADDITION to that perfect sacrifice.
It is very similar to Roman Catholicism's false doctrine of the Sacrifice of the Mass (as well as "Purgatory"), in that it denies the ALL SUFFICIENCY of Christ's never to be repeated, perfect sacrifice on the Cross.
Historically, orthodox Christianity, based exclusively upon the authority of Scripture, declared that when Christ returns, He will immediately set up His ETERNAL Kingdom.
J @ 5:13 PM ...
"I would add that the New Testament calls the bodies of believers the temple in at least five different places."
WE ARE the TEMPLE OF GOD, precisely why the Papacy, for hundreds of years, was declared to be the seat of the Anti-Christ, because it declared its supremacy, in a god-like manner, over the souls of all of mankind.
And, your 5:30 PM is definitely worth repeating:
"What makes no sense is that the animal sacrifices that were only shadows of the once and for all sacrifice of Jesus would need to be reinstated by Jesus when He returns."
Blood sacrifice still continued after Jesus death but that became meaningless. The construction of a third temple doesn't mean blood sacrificed would be honored. Nor would I expect a defiled temple to remain standing once Zachariah 14:12 occurs.
5:49 PM
They are already doing them. of course it counts for nothing, but they don't know that yet.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/passover-sacrifice-reenacted-by-jewish-priests-in-training/
Revelation 11:
1And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Uhmm, wait a minute...."saying, Rise, and measure the BODY OF BELIEVERS of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.".......is not what the verse says.
42 months= 3 1/2 years
And who gets a crack at 3 1/2 year counterfeit ministry? (and where?)
Anti-Christ will be pretending his ministry will be equal the Lord's real ministry (that was for 3 1/2 years long time ago), and will be blasphemy of course.
Some parallels but counterfeit, by the "angel of light" who fills the man of sin with his evil spirit to counter God.
Ezekiel 40 is the new temple that the Prince is at.
It is the temple of the 1000 year reign of Christ.
I said nothing about sacrifices by the way..Jesus has already "paid it all"
and Hallelujah to that!
The Romans trampled Jerusalem underfoot for 42 months.
Yes, I know. It happened at the end of the world. And Nero was the antichrist.
It happened in the latter days of the Old Covenant.
Which was the end of the world, right? That's what the disciples asked Jesus. They didn't ask when will the end of the world of the old covenant be.
J,
I think that that RayB is talking about did happen...but typical in Scripture many times there are dual pictures, dual fulfillments.
One on a smaller localized scale -- the next one on a grander scale to finally and totally complete the prophecies.
One was then (what he referenced) and one is future.
One happened at 70 A.D., the other will be to "finish the transgression" in "the times of the Gentiles" which I believe we are about to witness soon, (and the Temple (mount) is trampled at that time, Jews flee again (I think 2/3 of them perish?), and Jesus reclaims those of present day Israel, that will find out what they had gotten wrong, they will repent and mourn knowing they and their people had rejected their Messiah..(Zech 12:10)..and look upon Him Whom they had pierced. These will have an experience something akin to the Damascus Road experience of Paul, in other words they will see the light of Christ and no longer deny Him, will be saved miraculously in the physical realm and become spiritually eternally saved too.
The Lord knows those that are His.
I reject the multiple levels of fulfillment argument in the context of Matthew 24.
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
The signs
Many shall come in my name. - Christians were being persecuted. I doubt there were those claiming to be Him.
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars – Everyone wanted a piece of Rome?
Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom – same as above.
There shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places – not sure that happened either.
This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. – That hadn’t happened yet.
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place – All the above didn’t apply to 70AD. Why would Jesus suddenly jump time frames? To confuse us?
"The Romans trampled Jerusalem underfoot for 42 months.
6:11 PM"
So will a revived Roman Empire (the EU is a great picture of this and I believe AC will rise from among them) trample it in the future (near future because there are many things taking shape that appear so) - fulfilling the times of the Gentiles as the Lord describes it?
In the New King James version of the Bible, the apostles asked Jesus when the end of the age would be. Not the end of the world. Which Bible version are you reading?
In any Bible version, this question would immediately follow Jesus telling them about the impending temple destruction.
I have two KJV versions that read the same.
"And what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" The sign of thy coming is a reference to Jesus physical return. The time frame obviously was not 70AD. No-one here has given me a compelling reason to believe Jesus suddenly jumped time frames.
6:43 PM,
I would just suggest comparing and contrasting the various end times theologies to determine which one you think does the best exegesis. If you've already done that we'll just have to agree to disagree. I've done it and I believe in PPA (partial preterism amillennialism). It took me a long time to be convinced about it. In the end, for me, it was a matter of believing the Bible's teachings rather than man's teachings. But Revelation is not easy, and I could have it wrong. What made the biggest difference for me was to let the Bible interpret the Bible. It's hard to understand Revelation without understanding its Old Testament allusions. It is very rich in those. Most of us study the New Testament much more than the Old.
Whichever way you interpret eschatology, if you believe in Jesus, He assures you that those who believe in Him will not be ashamed.
New King James and ESV are my usual go to.
Yes J, the chapter starts that way. But reading on through the chapters Matt 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 also speaks future event (in addition to 70 A.D.), so there is more, because those chapters go on to speak of Jesus' return after those things He describes happen. The 2nd return of Christ who defeats AC is yet future. There are to be many anti-christ's through all the eras, then there is a finale with the man of sin in his own 42 month (3 1/2 yr) counterfeit "ministry". The rapture of believers happens sometime before that event (Jesus' Return) but not on a pre-trib timetable. He will call up the Church from the clouds but when He returns He will touch down and the earth will split east to west. I believe pre-trib is wrong. (I once believed it but more careful reading convinced me to abandon that)
I guess we will agree to disagree. I arrived at my conclusion by several readings through the Bible. I'm not going to start digging in to all the various theological arguments on this. This is how I interpret it applying the most plain meaning of what I've read. It may sound simplistic but it is how God has spoken to me. I'm not going to jump time frames to make things fit as I like. And I'm not going to accept it doesn't really mean that because it's symbolic.
J,
Brandon Smith (possibly not his real name) is apparently not a Christian (which is kind of what I said as most NAR church-goer's aren't Christians either). He appears to be just another paranoid prepper peddling nonsense, including qanon nonsense while selling survival-wares. He appears to be heavily involved in the "Liberty Movement" a militant, anti-government white nationalist movement that's disrupting life and creating chaos in many small towns, particularly, in the Northwest.
He wrote this as a response to a comment on one of his articles asking him specifically if he was a Christian.
"written by Brandon Smith , December 08, 2016: @Nipper
I would probably be considered a heretic in the Christian community because I don't believe in establishment churches. I think religion should be personal rather than collectivist in nature. I do defend the basic principles of Christianity regularly, but the rest of my beliefs I prefer to keep to myself. I used "god" because my goal is to talk to many people with many different beliefs, even the ones I disagree with.
source: https://web.archive.org/web/20170203231153/http://alt-market.com/articles/3079-understanding-evil-from-globalism-to-pizzagate
"Whichever way you interpret eschatology, if you believe in Jesus, He assures you that those who believe in Him will not be ashamed."
AMEN.
Really, I don't care if we disagree (probably mainly do agree), I think talking about it helps a lot because we see much coming on the horizon and as I said before and you agreed..iron sharpen iron...speaking to each other can help us learn from one another. I'm all for that.
Many surprises I think God has in store wand why we must watch. Jesus said to--not figure it all out--but be awake look at everything and compare it to Scripture and we will see Him unfold it for us (and in a very timely manner--we do need to ask Him, pray for His Spirit's light upon darker passages) He did say He has told us before hand--that was to disciples then--and disciples now. We will be right and wrong too because we are finite, but we will get everything right when Jesus reveals it all and when we see His face
I have looked in depth to compare those 3 Gospel chapters (Matt 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 and gone further to look for clues that pertain to Anti-Christ in Daniel, Ezekiel, Zechariah, and Revelation specifically). It paints a picture of a finale--the end of that age where AC is defeated and then the 1000 year reign of Christ commences.
I also believe what ancient Jews believed and Peter wrote.
A day is as a 1000 years and a 1000 years as a day. (2 Peter 3:8)
1000 years for each one day of creation.
The Jews say the 6000 years is not quite finished (they claim this is year 5782), but some Jews rewrote the calendar to leave out 240 years surrounding the time of Jesus to erase His history. (Now why did they go that far to rework their calendar? Denial of Christ was what defined them sad to say)
Look at this:
I think we are in the 6000th year-exactly how far in I don't know but I just went looking and found this--this is amazing : 5782 + 240 = 6022
Things that make you go hmmm.....
So when does this age end and the last 1000th year begin when the Lord comes back to reign on the earth??
Soon, in my estimation.
X 7:35 PM,
Interesting response from Brandon Smith. We are agreed that he does not sound like a Christian. Some day he could become saved.
Do you have any opinion about his article predicting that Cyber Polygon was gaming a cyber attack that will come from Russia some time this year? (A worse attack than we've seen before, one that will put even more severe strain on the supply chain.)
J,
If you find time and if you find the interest you may really enjoy this very short read of a Hungarian rabbi who came to Christ, reading the "forbidden" chapters for Jews in the book of Isaiah and portions of Daniel. He read in Daniel to realize when Messiah should come to earth and what Messiah would be like in Isaiah (the Lamb of God). The math showed him when Messiah had come (abt 2000 years ago)--it was the very time that Jesus came--when He rode into Jerusalem on the donkey colt and revealed His mission on earth (our Savior).
He came to the Lord in the awe and wonder of it all realizing Jesus is his Savior.
He began a ministry in Brooklyn NY called Chosen People ministries and it is wonderful.
Their mission is to reach Jewish people for Christ..and they do!
It's awesome. Have had some folks from that ministry come to our church and share about all that.
If the Jews realized the New Testament is revealed in the Old and if more Christians realized how the Old Testament concealed the New we would all be looking at things better there wouldn't be so much sectarianism as we find today.
http://baptistbiblebelievers.com/BookList/STORYOFAMODERNMISSIONARYTOANANCIENTPEOPLE.aspx
7:37 PM,
Very interesting thoughts about the Jewish calendar.
At times I have wondered if we are approaching the time prophesied by Revelation 20.
As a partial preterist amillennialist I believe most of the book of Revelation already happened but that part yet remains.
I believe it describes Jesus rescuing His church after it has been surrounded by the enemies of God.
Revelation describes a city without walls being surrounded. Jesus called His disciples the light of the world, a city set on a hill. Jerusalem has walls.
In this coming in Revelation 20, He doesn't come in judgment against His city without walls. He comes to rescue.
Stephen said in the temple in Jerusalem in Acts that Jesus would soon be coming in judgment. Jesus is God, and God came on the clouds in judgment in the Old Testament many times. In Leviticus Israel was warned of judgment for disobedience. He said he would punish them seven times, and the seven seals and seven bowls of Revelation are well known
It would be impossible ever to end a discussion of this topic. It is a very rich subject.
8:07 PM,
That's so fascinating. I'll take a look at it. Thank you.
Event Date
Creation 4004 BC
The Flood 2348 BC
Tower of Babel 2246 BC
Abraham 1996 BC
Joseph 1745 BC
Moses and the Exodus 1491 BC
David 1085 BC
Monarchy Divides 975 BC
Assyrian Destruction of Israel 722 BC
Babylonian Captivity of Judah 586 BC
Jesus 4 BC
The 4000 years is creation until the birth of Jesus.
Jesus life, death, burial, and resurrection until now 2000 years.
6000 years.
Time is short..very short.
Share the love of Jesus Christ with the perishing.
What they are I once was.
Once I was perishing, but now I am saved.
If Jesus can save me (and you), then He can save anybody :)
8:23 PM J
You are welcome.
Enjoy.
J,
I don't find "Brandon Smiths" analysis that just because there was a pandemic game just before the pandemic (so they knew it was coming) and now "they" are doing a computer cyber attack preparedness game so "they" must, likewise, know it's coming to be very persuasive.
Pandemics happens.
Hacking happens.
Government hacking and warfare happens.
Our hospital systems and emergency response systems & personnel regularly game large accidents like airplane crashes and/or terrorist attacks (both chemical and explosives) in order to mock prepare for those and/or like situations that COULD arise.
"Anonymous" right now is attacking Russian installations and bragging about successes on Tik Tok.
I don't think it's a reach or problematic that thinkers and/or non-thinkers engage in any such "games" in an attempt to discern weaknesses and create contingency plans. Wealthy groups like think tanks probably do it because wealthy people crave stability (so they don't lose their wealth).
In the year 2000, I think, I was on Mackinac Island way up in Michigan when the island lost power for several days. It wasn't the end of the world. It was an adventure and actually made it more nostalgic. My brother was in New York, New York in 2003 when the mid-west/east coast grid lost power and the hotel he was at had everyone set up sleeping outside and it was a cookout on the streets of New York and though WE were all worried about them, they actually enjoyed it in hindsight. It's offputting and anxiety laden to go through such events but we are far more adaptable than we think.
On a larger scale it COULD get bad and ugly but most of the time these things happen regionally and are short-lived. If humanity could survive Hitler and Genghis Khan we can survive not having our phones, computers and electronics for a week, month or even a year. Apocalyptic movies aside, mankind generally unites in difficulties.
It'll be ok. God is sovereign.
x
Dear J:
Just want to share this article I recently came across on the subject of 'the binding of Satan' and I would be interested in your feedback.
https://www.andrewcorbett.net/articles/book-of-revelation/the-binding-of-satan/
"mankind generally unites in difficulties"
X, miss Pollyanna. You should read your Bible, after asking God for wisdom. Your brand of 'wisdom' is sensual, and devilish.
We have been programmed to be divided.
Your preaching a secular humanistic sermon.
You play a different strategy with different posters here. You play J, with "easy going" X. But your still nasty to the core! Always as deceptive as THE serpent.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/03/07/emergency_room_doctor_i_apologize_to_great_barrington_declaration_proponents_you_guys_were_correct.html
Dr. Joseph Fraiman criticized COVID-19 mitigation efforts and said society has to question if we want a public policy that is "obviously producing large harm and offering only a minimal benefit at best." In a Zoom session with other doctors, Fraiman apologized for criticizing proponents of the Great Barrington Declaration and said he hopes other doctors realize they made a mistake. Dr. Joseph Fraiman is an Emergency Medicine Physician based in Louisiana.
"These policies were harmful. Initially, I was - I don't want to say I was ignorant but it was irrelevant because there were lives on the line, I'm an emergency doctor. There were lives on the line. No, we have to do it. But if the policies didn't make a big difference and they only caused harm then you have to start rethinking what we're doing," Fraiman said.
"You take the data that is clearly in front of us and if it is only causing harm and at best can only save a few we need to think about it. At best, an aggressive lockdown policy, imagine it reduced hospitalizations and death by 20%. 20% of deaths and hospitalizations were reduced. If that were the case, then maybe we could come here and debate. Is the harm caused by those lockdowns worth that benefit? And how do we negotiate that benefit through navigating through our freedoms?" Fraiman asked.
"The reality is hospitalizations and deaths were not reduced by 20% by any policies," Fraiman said. "Because if they were we would have had studies at this point that would have consistently identified that. And that just has not occurred at all. So, I think as a society we have to decide if we want to continue a public policy that's obviously producing large harm and offering only a minimal benefit at best. It's currently unmeasurable."
"Also, personally, I would like to apologize to the three other scientists sitting with me here on Zoom, the proponents of the [Great] Barrington Declaration," Fraiman said. "Initially, I did think y'all were crazy, or dumb, or maybe you just didn't understand what I was seeing. But I now realize -- I'm sorry because I believe now you guys were correct. And you were correct from the beginning and I wish that more people, including myself, have realized that sooner. And I hope more people realize that soon enough."
Our government drove the covid madness and awful aftermath, not real science, doctor "science" Fauci by name the face of all that is wrong with how it was handled and has blood on his hands. Rand Paul nailed him in his many abuses of the truth and his underhandedness with our public health and rightly so.
Good for this doctor to be able to apologize. Many good doctors, like himself, got caught up in it. People are catching on to it.
And many good doctors were severely penalized for speaking up against the government's heavy hand in the whole issue. "Fauxchi" should be run out of this country--he's just the beginning of who should forced to leave, be exported to China....
J,
Brandon Smith must have moved to Eureka at about the same time as and, likely along with Chuck Balwin, lead pastor of the Liberty Fellowship.
His Alt-market.com archives take his activism back to 2011 about that same time though Brandon Smith claims to have moved there from Pittsburg, PA.
Supposedly "Pastor" Baldwin moved to the "Flathead Valley" of Montana with 18 family members so Brandon Smith is possibly related. Eureka is just up the road one hour from Kal
Interesting backstory...
Chuck Baldwin, a 35-year Florida “guns and God” pastor and a leader in the antigovernment “Patriot” movement, moved his apocalyptic mission to Montana in 2010, forming a new church in a burgeoning center for antigovernment and white supremacist extremists. Baldwin’s arrival in the Flathead Valley, where his Liberty Fellowship is drawing an array of radical-right congregants, followed years of activity on the far right. He was the presidential candidate of the Constitution Party in 2008 and its vice-presidential candidate in 2004. In recent rants, he’s raged against any form of gun control and warned darkly of an imminent and violent confrontation with government forces. The U.S. as we know it is going down, Baldwin insists, and patriotic citizens must lead the charge to save it.
https://libertyfellowshipmt.com/Home.aspx
x
p.s. - Note - this "church" is run out of a hotel conference room.
If anyone has insomnia I suggest they read just a couple of paragraphs of any post by X and they will soon be in a deep sleep.
Be warned however--read too much of X and you could lapse into a coma.
Speaking of pedophiles...
RBG - DeSantis and Gaetz
https://youtu.be/dFsUd2HyQxI
“If Ron DeSantis will turn a blind eye to Matt Gaetz, makes you wonder what else he’s covering up,” snarks Ron Be Gone, in a new anti-DeSantis campaign video promoted on social media Thursday.
The video rolls out more than a minute of those images of Gaetz and DeSantis together in professional, social, and media-appearance settings, building the impression of a bromance between the two — at least until recently.
Gaetz is the Republican Panhandle Congressman struggling to deal with growing reports that he’s a central figure in a sex trafficking investigation that already has another old friend of his, former Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Greenberg, reportedly arranging a plea deal with federal prosecutors.
DeSantis was close enough to Gaetz while they served together in Congress that DeSantis had Gaetz serve as one of the co-chairs of the newly elected Governor’s’ transition team in 2018 and 2019."
That's not evidence, that is a Drive by Smear @ 12:22 AM, and speaks very poorly of YOU.
X 9:19 PM,
Of course God is sovereign, and we will be okay by belief in Him, primary allegiance to Him, and obedience to His commands.
I watched people unite after 9/11, but then what followed was the Patriot Act and the War in Iraq.
I see people uniting now to be pro-Ukraine and anti-Russia. But I suspect that after this is over, in hindsight, we will see that we were fooled again.
If we unite in faith in God that's one thing. Uniting with faith in man or faith in government is another. Something always goes wrong with it. We always get played.
10:17 PM,
I started to read Andrew Corbett's article about the binding of Satan. I'll give feedback after I've finished it.
10:17 PM,
I think Andrew Corbett's writing about Revelation is unusually clear. I may disagree with him about whether gifts of the spirit have ceased. He says they could only have ceased if you believe in full preterism. I'm frankly uncertain about it.
I downloaded a pdf of his ebook, The Most Embarrasing Book in the Bible. I think it's impossible to understand Satan's partial restrictions by being "bound" in this present age without the context of other scriptures. I found this very helpful and very clear.
This is from page 135. Under the Old Covenant Satan could –
1. Enter God’s presence (Job 1, 2)
2. Constantly accuse God’s people of sin (Zech. 3:1; Rev. 12:10)
3. Rightfully condemn God’s people (Jn. 3:18; Rom. 5:16; 8:1)
4. Rule the immediate spiritual realm of earth (2 Cor. 4:4; Eph. 6:12)
5. Intimidate God’s people with fear (1 Peter 5:8)
6. Steal, murder, and lie (Gen. 3; Jn. 8:44)
7. Possess the willing (1 Sam. 16:14; Jn. 13:2, 27; Acts 5:3)
8. Transform his appearance (2 Cor. 11:14)
9. Buffet believers (2 Cor. 12:7)
10. Hinder the work of God (1 Thess. 2:18)
Some will query this list where I have provided New Testament references to detail Old Testament activities. Again I emphasise the ramifications of Hebrews 8:13 which reveals that the Old Covenant did not end at the Cross but overlapped it until the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple.
Therefore, what the New Testament describes of Satan’s activity has direct relevance to the Old Covenant’s understanding as well. But we need to make the following observations about how Satan’s progressive downfall was assured by the Cross of Christ.
Because of the Cross, Satan-
1. Can not rightfully condemn God’s people of being in sin (Rom. 8:1).
2. Can no longer claim to be Lord of the earth.
Because of the Ascension, Satan–
1. Can no longer enter into the Third Heaven.
2. Can no longer accuse God’s people of sin before God.
Because of the close of the Old Covenant and the binding of Satan, he can no longer–
1. Prohibit entire nations from turning to God.
2. Deceive entire nations.
3. Destroy the Church.
When Christ’s return culminates His Kingdom, Satan will be forever damned in the Lake of Fire.
Returning to the question of what it would mean to release Satan in Revelation 20. In context, the outcome of the releasing of Satan will be that he deceives the nations to go to war. The enemies of God will surround the people of God. The church can never be destroyed. The gates of hell can't prevail against it. Members of the church are in every nation on earth in the present day. It therefore can't be conceivable that entire nations will ever again be prohibited from turning to God. The meaning of Satan's release, in context, seems to mean deceiving the nations to go to war. But not just war of nation against nation as in WW II. War of the enemies of God for the purpose of persecuting God's people. That's just my reading. This reading of Revelation 20 and Gog and Magog would mirror Alice Bailey's "The Plan" to get rid of the "people of the book." This is just my take on it right now. It's the only way everything I know, of both our present age and of Bible teachings, all line up consistently.
The open question would then become when God will let "The Plan" proceed far enough that it becomes necessary for Him to rescue His church.
X, @ 11:29 PM said, describing Eureka Montana:
"burgeoning center for anti government and white supremacist extremists"
I have lived in the "Flathead Valley", Eureka Montana, for three years. In those 3 years I never met a "white supremacist". I did however meet a lot of christian people though. That area is in the middle of the N.W. bible belt. The vast majority of people moving to Montana, Idaho etc. are from California. If those folks are "anti government", who can blame them? The population influx was so great, that some pacific northwest counties have a majority of California residence.
A good friend of mine is a pastor there, he is native american, and I know three others as well. None of which are "white supremacists".
You go ahead X, and get all your propaganda from the main stream media. Make sure you continue to throw in plenty of exaggeration, and unsubstantiated slander as well. We have come you expect no less from you.
The people who live there are some of the nicest people you will ever meet.
9:34 AM
Isn't 'The Plan' being implemented now? I think it is. If the scamdemic coincides with the conquering of the white horse, then the Lords return is not far off.
I don't know. It seems clear that the globalists will keep trying. They seem relentless, starting the Ukraine War just when it seemed like we might get back to normal after COVID. If they don't succeed in WW III or a devastating cyber attack and Great Reset, what will follow? They seem hellbent for now on continuing to try to implement a Great Reset.
J you have some really skewed theology. The old covenant was over when the curtain ripped in the temple when Jesus died. People could not be saved anymore by animal sacrifice.
You again apply the destruction of the temple as past and not future without a leg to stand on. You have failed to show in Matthew 24 (using Matthew 24) where Jesus jumped time frames from future to past. It doesn't happen.
"This reading of Revelation 20 and Gog and Magog would mirror Alice Bailey's "The Plan" to get rid of the "people of the book."
Your time frame is off again. Alice Bailey never intended for the people of the book to make it one year year much less 1000.
10:11 AM,
Do you mean the use of the phrase "end of the world" in the KJV in Matthew 24? Does it matter what this would have meant to a Hebrew audience in the age when the Jerusalem temple was still standing and in the original language?
Our Protestant ancestors meant by "Sola Scriptura" that by a plain reading of the Bible, people could understand the basic teachings necessary for their salvation. They didn't mean that anybody living anywhere at any time could read the King James version of the Bible and take the first meaning that seemed plain and literal to them and understand any detail perfectly.
10:15 AM,
I don't think Alice Bailey intended anything. Her channeled demon intended something. But God's intention matters more than her demon's intention.
Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? AND WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN OF THY COMING, and of THE END OF THE WORLD?
https://biblehub.com/greek/synteleias_4930.htm
Matthew 24:3 N-GFS
GRK: παρουσίας καὶ συντελείας τοῦ αἰῶνος
NAS: of Your coming, and of the end of the age?
KJV: coming, and of the end of the world?
INT: coming and the completion of the age
Matthew 28:20 N-GFS
GRK: ἕως τῆς συντελείας τοῦ αἰῶνος
NAS: even to the end of the age.
KJV: [even] unto the end of the world.
INT: until the completion of the age
You are attempting to divorce Jesus’ second coming from this question and apply the end [end, completion] of the [age, world] to an out of context time frame.
As I read the scripture surrounding the abomination of desolation, it is future tense.
Verse 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come (pertains to time of the end).
Verses 15-20 relate to abomination of desolation along with instructions what to do.
Verse 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. (Immediately following AoD there shall be great tribulation, future tense.)
For Jesus to have spoken of end of time events immediately preceding His coming then flip the time frame to 70 AD is completely out of context. I’m not sure why you would do that other than to accommodate a bad theological view. Now to say it wasn’t intended to be clearly understood makes your case even worse.
I don't agree with your assumption that "the end of the age" could only be synonymous with "the end of the world."
Speaking of "the world" and "the earth" remember that X took "polluters of the earth" in Revelation literally and plainly and used it to argue that God is against the global warming deniers. Look it up and see how how theologians understand "the earth" to mean the same thing as "the land" or "Israel."
The context of the scripture is the end at the time of Jesus return.
It makes no sense to twist and divorce the verse into separate meanings of time frames. Linguistically that makes no sense. Jesus isn't the author of confusion. I find your theological argument garbled and nonsensical.
To X @ 11:29 PM:
Your description of Rev. Dr. Charles Baldwin and the ministry and people of Liberty Fellowship, in the Flathead Valley of Montana is outrageous. To infer that Baldwin and Brandon Smith are related because they live an hour's distance from each other - what Bible scripture do you base that on? and you have a problem with church congregations meeting in a hotel conference room? What does a church meeting place have to have in order to be "holy" in your book? Roman architecture? A steeple on top?
Dr. Baldwin is not "a leader in the antigovernment Patriot movement." He preaches against QAnon, anarchy, and participating in the antichrist world system. He believes in individual liberties, the right to keep and bear arms, and upholding the United States Constitution.
11:28 AM,
I don't intend to confuse anybody. I had a lot of unlearning to do as I studied prophecy. RayB got me started with historicism, and that at least got me understanding most of the book of Daniel. I moved from historicism to PPA (partial preterism amillennialism). It was a long process. I will not say more about it here. Anybody can study it on their own if they choose. I wouldn't expect anybody to change their minds from just a few of my comments. If we're asking questions and thinking about it, then we can each go from there, with individual study and prayer and consultation with trusted pastors or teachers. Nobody should make up their mind about this type of thing from a blog comment thread. It's just a conversation. I don't think I have anything more to add at this time.
Hmmm... Are the Globalists working toward changing what America hears in the way of 'news' whether we are watching Fox News or CNN? (Can't help but wonder if one day soon, the only 'news' America will hear is what is 'acceptable' to the Globlists.)
__________________________________________________________________________________________
CNN's new boss Chris Licht is 'working towards cease-fire on network's aggressive coverage of Fox News' and wants to push hosts away from Trump-era 'opinionated and emotional' reporting and back to hard news
Chris Licht, 50, has already begun closed-door conversations with key figures at the conservative news network, two sources close to the matter said Tuesday
Licht plans to nix the network's left-leaning commentary when he assumes the role of president this May, the sources said
Licht made it known to the staffers that he is working towards a ceasefire on his network's now-notorious negative coverage of the competing news station
Licht told staffers that he plans to push hosts away from 'opinionated and emotional' reporting that became prevalent during Donald Trump's presidency
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10589941/CNNs-new-boss-Chris-Licht-working-cease-fire-networks-aggressive-coverage-Fox-News.html
At 11:54 AM,
He bases on his own proud take of how much better he is that anyone who disagrees with his "superior" self.
There is no book in the canon of Scripture that is written by or called "x" but he has a god complex to spout against others so relentlessly, to troll endlessly, it does not stop him though it is without an actual verifiable knowledge to judge anyone else, because he is himself, outrageous.
Pride goes before a fall, ends up in destruction, so pray for this massive fool's salvation.
He has no chapter and verse to back his toxic self up, but he is a better "christian" in his mind, than the rest of us put together to his way of thinking.
That's why his posts are DOA...why they need a good flush back to the sewer where they come from.
To J at 10:42 AM
Re: "I don't think Alice Bailey intended anything. Her channeled demon intended something. But God's intention matters more than her demon's intention."
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Yes, J... I agree with you!!!
P.S. 11:28 AM,
The overriding issue is primary allegiance to Jesus Christ. Whatever eschatology you believe in, if you serve Jesus Christ first, then you are getting the most important point of all. This would have been true for the Jews in the time of Jesus, for the churches in Asia Minor around the time of 70 AD, for the Reformers, and it's still true today. Jesus didn't make it too hard for us to understand the most important things we need to do. He will not allow us to be deceived about those most important things so long as we love the truth; and He is the way, the life and the truth.
The Old Testament prophets weren't even primarily all about predicting the future. They were more about telling the people what would happen to them if they did not repent. The message of repentance was the more important part. There were also messages of hope for what would happen after repentance. But repentance was central.
A crystal ball is not necessary, and a combined PhD in history and theology is not necessary. The basics are more important than the more advanced topics.
"I don't intend to confuse anybody. I had a lot of unlearning to do as I studied prophecy. RayB got me started with historicism"
I'm not the one confused and twisting scripture. Now I know its source.
X was mixed up when you came to me,
Too broke to fix, said, "Daddy, I'm missing my baby."
Neegrah missing my baby....
I was stitched up by the hands of fate,
Said how X gonna make it on his own if luck is a lady?
Maybe Neegra a lady!
X was going down for the THIRD time!
Barry heart was broken, was not open to your suggestions;
Neegrah had so many question....
That you just kissed your obsession!
lyrics by Miguel Jorge, paul
12:35 PM,
What are your sources for understanding prophecy?
cont'd
X guessed that Cupid was in disguise,
The day N!gger walked in and changed his life;
Neegrah think it's amazing,
The way that his love can you set X free...
So now X will walk in the midday sun,
Never thought that Barry Savior come,
I think it's amazing,
I think it's amazing,
X think Neegrah amazing!
{Chorus}
Da da da, da da da, dadada da, da da da, da da da duh duh duh
12:09 PM
Hi J, this is 7:37 and 8:09 PM who had a nice discussion with you last evening.
I am glad you study to understand the Bible and share what you do here.
Yes, this is only a blog and we can't bring everything here anyway, as we need our own quiet time to study and let the Word speak to us so I am glad that is what you advocate, above your own take on Scripture. That is key to gaining the very understanding we all lack somewhere along the line. I guess we do disagree since I see much unfinished business between the Lord and his "adulterous wife" Israel and how His relationship with her has a future restoration and I feel much is not fulfilled in the book of Revelation just yet. And the Lord's bride has to be fitted into her wedding gown, that's coming too.
I think we are more likely to be waiting to see more of chapter 6 unfold and then move (rather quickly) from there. The advancement of globalism's "great reset" will look like what commences in that chapter so there is a lot to go on yet future (near future in my understanding anyway) before we get to revelation 20, and this is my take.
Because God's Word is inspired I find even His math has to add up, it has to be very important in how things play out on His timetable, and again I also think there are many prophecies that have more than one fulfilling--some have seen a "micro" aspect in fulfillment but will go "macro" in these days that are end times to put the finishing touch on them, closing more chapters as it proceeds to the day when all will burn up, all will burn it says, and the new heaven and the new earth are actual, so time has to prove that, what the Word says and how it plays out in real time is what we can definitely watch.....
....but all that aside it is sharing the Gospel with a hurting and dying world, with our neighbor, and as the Lord leads, that needs the most of our time and attention in what I feel, and there is a certain urgency that comes with it.
And I love how the canon ends--come quickly Lord Jesus! What a hope is ours.
Thanks for good discussion and your good manner while doing so.
I appreciate that.
X swear he won't tease you....
Won't tell you no lies,
Don't need no Bible,
Just stare in my eyes!
Neegrah waited for Asians,
Now that we're friends,
Every mans got his patience,
And here's where Joe's ends.....
X want your sex
X want your love
X want your ex,
drinkin' milk from above....
{Chorus}
It's natural,
it's chemical (let's do it)
It's logical
Habitual (can we do it?)
It's sensual,
but most of all
it want X wants....
Thank you 12:52 PM. I appreciate your good discussion, too.
12:15 PM (Continued)...
Remember when Rupert Murdoch 'passed the baton' on to his more liberal son, Lachlan Murdoch 4 years ago (in May of 2018)... making him the Chairman & CEO of Fox Corp?
Then after, Trump failed to win re-election ~ Intercept.com ran this headline on November 6, 2020...
AS TRUMP IS DEFEATED, THE MURDOCHS TRY TO DODGE BACKLASH FOR FOX NEWS
The Murdoch family, owners of Fox News, oversaw a pivot against President Trump as his defeat loomed.
http://historicism.com/Guinness/Romanism/Index.htm
This was the book RayB introduced me to, Romanism and the Reformation. It has an excellent exegesis of most of the book of Daniel. Ultimately I disagreed with continuous historicism. But I still appreciated the exegesis of most of Daniel. It was very readable.
If you understand Daniel, at least you'll understand why most proponents of their system of prophecy have believed the last beast had to be Roman in some way.
It's just that the Reformers believed the Holy Roman Empire was the head that grew back after being wounded.
The futurists said a revived Roman Empire in Europe would represent the head that grew back after the beast's head was wounded.
Preterists and partial preterists believe the beast was ancient Rome.
I just wanted to say this to clarify RayB's contribution to my thinking since I felt like a negative insinuation was left hanging.
Profound post by J that deserves to be repeated:
J said...
X 9:19 PM,
Of course God is sovereign, and we will be okay by belief in Him, primary allegiance to Him, and obedience to His commands.
I watched people unite after 9/11, but then what followed was the Patriot Act and the War in Iraq.
I see people uniting now to be pro-Ukraine and anti-Russia. But I suspect that after this is over, in hindsight, we will see that we were fooled again.
If we unite in faith in God that's one thing. Uniting with faith in man or faith in government is another. Something always goes wrong with it. We always get played.
8:06 AM
https://www.c-span.org/video/?518497-1/house-republicans-call-oil-drilling-make-shortfall-russia-imports-ban
Just a couple of thoughts ...
Whenever 'debates' about the end times occur, I almost always am reminded of the warnings of Peter found in Chapter 3 of his 2nd. Epistle. To be brief, look in particular to what he has to say in verses 14-16:
Peter writes in his 2nd. Epistle, Chapter 3 with references to end times prophecy (I encourage you to read the entire chapter):
14 Wherefore, beloved, SEEING THAT YE LOOK FOR SUCH THINGS, BE DILIGENT THAT YE MAY BE FOUND OF HIM IN PEACE, WITHOUT SPOT, AND BLAMELESS.
15 And account that the long suffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother PAUL ALSO ACCORDING TO THE WISDOM GIVEN UNTO HIM HATH WRITTEN UNTO YOU;
16 As ALSO IN ALL HIS EPISTLES, SPEAKING IN THEM OF THESE THINGS; IN WHICH ARE SOME THINGS HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD, WHICH THEY THAT ARE UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE WREST, AS THEY DO ALSO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.
(Block lettering added for emphasis)
NOTE: I have mentioned in here before that I have dealt with a number of people that are associated with cults. This has prompted me to study what these cults are teaching in order to be better prepared. I can state this to be true, without exception; virtually ALL of the cults that I know of lay a very heavy emphasis on end times prophecy. Why is that?
In fallen, human nature, there is often a deep seeded desire to 'know the future.' The cults (aka, Satan) understand this, which is precisely why they put such a profound emphasis upon it.
All I am saying is this; take Peter's (God's) warning seriously. DO NOT easily jump to conclusions that are based upon what SOMEONE is telling you. Besides, Peter warns us that it is better to "BE DILIGENT THAT YE MAY BE FOUND OF HIM IN PEACE, WITHOUT SPOT, AND BLAMELESS."
"A man's pride shall bring him low: but honor shall uphold the humble in spirit."
- Proverbs 29:23
Where Does the U.S. Get Its Oil?
After international economic sanctions resulting from its invasion of Ukraine, Russia’s economy is more dependent than ever on oil sales. How much does the United States buy?
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has sparked international condemnation, with heavy sanctions imposed by the West aiming to isolate the country economically. Russia’s gross domestic product is driven by its energy sector, which has largely been spared the financial penalties. It supplies around 40% of Europe’s natural gas. And while Moscow has said it will continue to deliver gas to the market, concerns remain about supply and prices.
Russia is also the third-largest oil producer in the world, responsible for roughly 10% of the global output. And the U.S. is the largest consumer of oil. So is the U.S. as dependent on Russia for oil as Europe is for gas? Data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration tracks where the U.S. imports from the most.
Of the 7.86 million barrels per day the U.S. imported in 2020, the majority came from its North American neighbors: Canada, with 4.13 million barrels (52.5%), and Mexico, with 750,000 (9.6%). But imports coming from outside North America are significant. Russia, with 540,000 barrels a day (6.6%), was the top non-continental contributor. Roughly 11% of the imports came collectively from OPEC countries, including 520,000 from Saudi Arabia.
Article posted 02/28/22...
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-28/where-does-the-u-s-get-its-oil
Brandon Smith, though not a Christian, claims (in 2011) to attend "Pastor" Balwin's "services" and mentions the relocation projects gaining steam in the Northwest Rocky Mountains. I certainly left a lot of distance from him being related to "Pastor" Balwin since he stated he came for Pittsburg, Pennsylvania.
Looking again at Liberty Fellowship's website...their "about us" specificially denies being a church at all preferring not to register as a tax exempt organization.
Chuck Baldwin is/was quite ecumenical at one time as he is very proud of supporting opus dei roman catholic Pat Buchanon back in his Florida republican days.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170410160000/http://www.alt-market.com/articles/345-a-message-to-the-splc-from-a-montana-extremist
Also...as far as racism and the Liberty Movement...why aren't they big supporters of the libertarian BLM movement?
I'm sure there are 1,000's of great people and wonderful Christians in Flathead County. It only takes a few overt racists and for others to just not care much at all to make a place such as that completely inhospitable for "others". It's certainly an (unspoken) characteristic of the area that actually drives many to "relocate" there in the first place.
Anyway...you have to live there, not me, so you should be more aware of the history of white nationalism that has historically & deliberately taken up residency in your area.
The History of White Nationalism in Montana: 1985-2015
https://youtu.be/i0SPp9C6now
x
I've been to Big Sky and snowmobiled through Yellowstone back when it was legal to do so....thus, when I said you "have to live there" I didn't really mean it derogatorily. It's a beautiful landscape.
Sorry for the implication.
I'm not a fan of Chuck Baldwin and KJV only independent Baptist churches or "fellowships".
x
X brilliantly asks:
"Also...as far as racism and the Liberty Movement...why aren't they big supporters of the libertarian BLM movement?"
BLM is a "libertarian movement?" ROFL !
Black Lives Matter is a Marxist revolutionary movement that is committed to violence in order to achieve their anarchist goals ... and they have a well documented history to prove that that is no exaggeration.
Just when you think X can't get anymore ridiculous, he comes up with another zinger.
J,
I appreciate the discussion as well. You've had my wife and I talking about these matters.
Then right on schedule your topic becomes relevant to something I ended up looking into....
"Pastor" Chuck Baldwin's Liberty Fellowship's Statement of Faith includes the following:
(Liberty Fellowship) - "LF opposes Socialism, Neoconism and Zionism. Accordingly, we do not support the socialistic Welfare State or the Neocon Warfare State. Neither do we believe that the modern Zionist State of Israel represents either historical (Biblical) Israel or prophetic Israel. Accordingly, we reject Scofieldism and dispensational futurism."
Is this similar to all or most KJV churches?
I've read up on "Scofieldism" and find that all interesting too.
By indicating what they do not believe...is that fully saying what they do believe? (It's their "statement of faith", right?)
I'm undecided on the subject, today. We are in the process of joining a new church so I look forward to discussing such matters with our new Pastor at some point in time.
x
X 5:12 PM,
I'm not familiar with the Liberty Fellowship or KJV churches.
Dispensationalism is the most popular teaching on eschatology in North America since shortly after the modern nation state of Israel was founded. It was not a traditional orthodox creed.
The only things stated in the traditional creed are beliefs in a second coming of Jesus Christ, a bodily resurrection and a final judgment.
You are right to point out, call out, the confusion of X, RayB.
Because he needs to tend to his own knittin' and clean up that mess in his own head.
He has no business trying to "play Holy Spirit" about anyone's faith especially since he is so confused himself, coherent 75% of the time only once in a while, as J rightly pegged him..(and she was being kind)
He is an "amateur providence" with hypocritical censorious self-righteousness Pharisee tendencies that go off the chart often around here and lacking so much grace it can't be seen that he actually believes in God's grace at all.
If I was dying and he was my only medical assist, I would beg that nobody send him to my bedside, he's that caustic.
He really should just shut up.
Shut. Up. Till he learns to see things from a truth and grace together perspective.
Jesus is the perfect balance of that (John 1:16), of course, not a one of us are...
but that very loud clang, clang, clang, coming out of his echo chamber is deafening.
We mustn't take the Bible literally shall we? It wasn't meant for us plain folk to understand?
RayB,
Your 4th generation Bill Lind attacks on BLM demonstrate your age, racism and naivete.
Despite the foolish notions of a few young leaders within the Black Lives Matters organization at large, the vast majority of the people that showed up in the millions to peacefully protest against inner-city police violence against mostly young black men in their own communities did so organically and not as any allegiance to Marxist notions. They were overwhelmingly expressing Libertarian sentiments.
Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and political freedom, minimize the state; emphasizing free association, freedom of choice, individualism and voluntary association.
For that matter...I could just as easily say "The Patriot Movement, MAGA's Rural Lives Matter, the Rancher's Lives Matter, the John Birch Soceity, and the Liberty Movement are all Marxist revolutionary movements that are committed to violence & chaos in order to achieve their anarchist goals and defeat the "elite" all of which serve the Marxist agenda to divide and conquer along racial lines and inspire hatred of our nation in the name of "patriotism"... and they have a well-documented history to prove that that is no exaggeration."
For example, the MAGA insurrectionist Oath Keepers have actively criticized private social media companies for purging their accounts and would prefer social media companies to be "collectivized" and made by the Federal Government to permit all of their hate speech.
You should be aware, the Patriot movement had often co-opted Black Lives Matter slogans and even tried to reach out to activists. In 2014, a Patriot movement-organized Cave Junction meeting included a presentation about fake courts, billing them as being a “people’s answer to Ferguson.” After the Malheur occupation, there were a spate of “Rural Lives Matter” and “Rancher Lives Matter” rallies, which used various Black Lives Matter slogans. At the February 2016 rally in Harney County, Oregon, Patriot movement activists held signs with Finicum’s photo and the slogan “#AllLivesMatter,” while chanting “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot.” At a March 2016 rally in Portland, Oregon, for Malheur occupation prisoners, Nate Seim (brother of Washington state internet broadcaster Gavin Seim), called on Black Lives Matter and Native American activists to join forces with them. His call was, unsurprisingly, rejected.
x
p.s. -- I'm not condoning violence by any side for political expediency, but local BLM anger and frustration with local police makes a lot more sense to me than the anger and frustration of so-called US Patriots at their own government while, often, claiming to be Christians. Further, "patriot" anarchists are a lot more politically powerful and threatening to our republic than snot-nosed idealistic college kids with nothing...yet...to lose. Marxism is, as it should be, no longer a real threat to society. Both the extreme left and the alt right lead to the same eventual place...authoritarianism. If you don't want to play the NWO game...don't participate in it.
The only one with authoritarianism ideas here at this blog is you, x.
That is why you berate others for not bowing their knees to your government gods.
Your nazi heel clicks get awful loud here.,,follow fauci, follow the "science" follow the mandates, follow Biden, support the marXists, follow you to become non-racist, there is no conspiracy the globalists are good for you, get the jab, believe the Bible the way you do, etc etc etc..
ad nauseum.
You're a nasty piece of troll work because you are extreme.
In spirit, you are no different than the nasty poet who trolls here.
God will take care of error in people, in His way, in His time.
It is not "X"'s job.
I'm thankful that God doesn't leave us to the mercy of the merciless, like that poor misled man is.
It all started because of an article by Brandon Smith warning about a likely upcoming cyber attack. Now somehow we need to be on the defensive about a church and a militia in Montana.
Nobody has to defend anything. I went down a rabbit hole.
It's just interesting to me where these things come from and the depth/vastness of their history, including a former Presidential Candidates.
As far as the anonymous poster... I think if I were not a threat to the MAGA & Opus Dei NWO authoritarian strategy, then they would not consistently go out of their way to attack me. They attack me, because I am doing something right.
x
"If I was dying and he was my only medical assist, I would beg that nobody send him to my bedside, he's that caustic."
Death by x would be gruesome, downright torture.
Black Lives Matter, peaceful, wholesome, X-type "Libertarians" on full display:
Over and over and over again, these peaceful "Libertarians" chant "Pigs in a blanket ... fry em like bacon."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQrnEdjQWKI
NOTE: this isn't the only time that BLM called for the killing of police.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/victoria-nuland-mentions-ukraine-biological-research-facilities/
Oh, you mean those U.S. Bio-Weapons Labs they have been denying and deleting material from?...
Vaccine passports are the opposite of inclusivity (from Livestream #117)
DarkHorse Podcast Clips
Salient snippet:
@ 7:20 “…[T]he messaging continuing on as if the evidence had not shifted on these vaccines is—it is hard to avoid the interpretation that something is holding onto these mandates because of their utility in manipulating us and turning us against each other rather than their epidemiological reasonableness…”
This is not verified. I discussed it with somebody who understands internet security better than I do. He said that it might not be true. If true, it would not make it easier for Russia to launch cyber attacks. But it would make it harder for others to launch counter cyber attacks against Russia. Possibly it could be a preparatory step toward Russia launching an upcoming cyber attack.
Is Russia Disconnecting from the Global Internet?
https://www.financemagnates.com/fintech/news/is-russia-disconnecting-from-the-global-internet/
Craig @ 8:37 PM
"their utility in manipulating us" Exactly!
It's still on my Boston news morning, noon, and night! Get vaxxed!
They have Doctor's on regularly pushing the vaxx.
A Doctor yesterday morning, saying Ivermectin not the answer. Still best to be vaxxed!
I'm looking for a place in the woods to live out my old age. My Waldon Pond!
https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/03/08/obama-led-ukraine-biolab-efforts/
The Ukraine bio-lab theory appears to be a qanon conspiracy being pushed by russian and chinese state trolls.
Here's an article from last june with a map of the most serious bio-labs locations around the world that leaves Ukraine bio-lab-less, let alone have multiple bio-labs.
In war who knows. Just smells like Putin disinformation desperation.
Fifty-nine labs around world handle the deadliest pathogens – only a quarter score high on safety
June, 2021
https://www.kcl.ac.uk/fifty-nine-labs-around-world-handle-the-deadliest-pathogens-only-a-quarter-score-high-on-safety
x
p.s. - Also...if there were bio-labs there...where's the paper trail? There was all sorts of info about Wuhan, including secret department of defense department financial procurement documentation. You can't simply hide funding for these supposed Ukraine labs.
U.S. pours cold water on Poland's 'untenable' offer to hand over all their MIG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine: Pentagon risks rift within NATO and 'raises serious war concerns for alliance' in the face-off with Putin
Biden administration officials said the Polish announcement had taken them by surprise
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10591379/Poland-gives-MIG-29-planes-hand-Ukraine.html
CRYPTO Tipping Point Has Arrived As Corporate Banks SHATTER Public Trust!
https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2022/03/situation-update-mar-8-2022-crypto-tipping-point-has-arrived-as-corporate-banks-shatter-public-trust-mike-adams-must-video-3621461.html
"The Ukraine bio-lab theory appears to be a qanon conspiracy being pushed by russian and chinese state trolls.
Also...if there were bio-labs there...where's the paper trail?"
Undersecretary Nuland admits there are U.S. Bio Labs funded by the Pentagon.
Stop being so damn lazy, disinfo clown x and look it up.
Our own government is up to no good like China and Russia are up to no good.
The powerful are up to their eyeballs in evil, and unleash it on the rest of us.
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2005-10/threat-reduction-program-extends-reach-ukrainian-biological-facilities
BTW, you did not go down a rabbit hole earlier.
You went up your own @&&hole and posted from there.
I see your still stuck.
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/they-called-it-a-conspiracy-theory-but-united-states-just-acknowledged-existence-of-bio-labs-in-ukraine-article-90097467
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1565587/us-concerned-russia-wants-to-seize-ukraine-bioresearch
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/03/08/undersecretary_of_state_victoria_nuland_us_working_to_keep_russian_forces_out_of_ukraines_biological_research_facilities.html
https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-demands-us-explain-biological-programme-ukraine-2022-03-09/
The Biden admin wasn't taken by surprise over the fighter jets. Blinken said over the weekend the US gave it a green light. They don't even try to conceal their lies anymore.
X's theme song.
https://youtu.be/5L_eC9Nd39w
Another 'difference of opinion' over whether Volodymyr Zelensky is a Nazi. Maybe this BBC interviewer needs to be reminded that George Soros is also a Jew, who betrayed his own people during World War II and beyond... and that Zelensky and his grandfather are obviously two different people (what one person does has absolutely nothing to do with what the other person does!!!). Also, how come no one in the lamestream media ever mentions the fact that Zelensky is 'a former actor and comedian'... who has only been president of Ukraine since May, 2019?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy
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Comrade clueless! Putin's ex-spy propagandist tells the BBC that Jewish Volodymyr Zelensky is a 'Nazi' and says the war 'is going to plan' in extraordinary showdown with Nick Robinson over 'preposterous' claims
Asked whether Zelensky is a 'Nazi', Putin loyalist Maria Butina, 33, said: 'According to his actions, absolutely'
In response, BBC radio host pointed out Zelensky is Jewish and his 'great-grandfather died fighting the Nazis'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10593635/Nick-Robinson-slams-Russian-MPs-preposterous-claims-Ukraine-heated-BBC-interview.html
The entire world is being 'played' on the world stage... and, either way, the Globalists WIN!!!
Hitler is a Jew, and was a Nazi.
So just because your a Jew, doesn't mean your automatically not a Nazi!
11:02 AM
Yes, exactly!!!
The media is always trying to place someone in a 'box' (or category) that may or may NOT apply (or be accurate).
Anon @ 11:02 AM ...
Claiming that Hitler was a Jew is an incredible stretch, because there is absolutely no concrete evidence to back that claim up. For those that don't know; the theory is that Hitler's paternal grandmother worked as a servant for a wealthy Jewish family. During that time, she became pregnant and gave birth to what would become Hitler's father. On the birth certificate, no name was given for who the father was, making the child's birth officially listed as "illegitimate." It is an incredible leap to connect the 'father' of the child automatically to a member of the Jewish family. The 'father' could have been another male servant, or someone not even connected to the household.
Even if it were so, Hitler was NEVER raised as a Jew, but rather, was Baptized and raised as a Roman Catholic, and, during his lifetime, was considered to be a "son of the Church" by Rome itself; "once a Catholic, always a Catholic" due to the Catholic doctrine of infant Baptism. Hardly the credentials for being a "Jew."
The argument as to what exactly constitutes a "Jew" is an ongoing debate. Some Jews claim it is strictly due to blood lines, while others claim that a Jew is a Jew because of their religious beliefs. (That's why when a Jew converts to Christianity, a public, symbolic 'burial' of that person is sometimes conducted, on the basis that they are no longer considered to be a Jew).
Brings another subject to mind; many claim that if someone is against the secular tenets of Zionism, that automatically makes that person an anti-semite. That is very far from the truth. The fact is, there are MANY Jews living in Israel today that are opposed to the Zionist political practices of the official Jewish State. Are they anti-semites?
Also, one of the most persecuted classes of people in Israel are vocal, Orthodox Rabbis who are very much opposed to Zionism, because they believe it to be thoroughly secular. They also claim that the State of Israel's creation was "illegitimate" due to the fact that the land was taken by force, and not by the manner in which God had stated it would be obtained in the Old Testament, i.e., through obedience to Him. Furthermore, they claim that the 'land' currently occupied does not comport to the 'land' as described in the OT. They have a point. They also oppose the apartheid policies wagered against the Palestinian people. Does that make the Orthodox Rabbis "anti-semitic?" Of course not!
Two more quick points ...
One, we are ALL related to each other due to the fact that Adam was the father of the fallen human race, making us in a real sense, all related to each other. One tie that binds us all; SIN. We are all sinners by birth.
Two, God looks upon, and deals with, each person as an INDIVIDUAL, and so should we. That is why racism is so abhorrent, and, anyone making such a serious charge against an individual or group of people without any foundation, is committing a grievous sin, and needs to be confessed and repented of.
America = Weak, Woke & 'leaderless'...
China Threatens to Use Dreaded N-Bomb Against the United States!
"The US was rocked by a military and diplomatic earthquake on Monday after Chinese leaders revealed that the Middle Kingdom has constructed an N-bomb capable of reaching the mainland United States, and is prepared to use it."
“If America persists in imposing its imperialist designs on China and the Chinese people, then China will not hesitate to respond with immediate deployment of the N-bomb,” Xi Jinping said in a speech to the Communist Party Congress.
https://www.revolver.news/2022/03/china-threatens-to-drop-dreaded-hard-r-n-bomb-against-united-states/
I think the main point here is that the Globalists and the media USE racism in their goal of 'divide and conquer'... because every 'crisis equals an opportunity' for the Globalists to play BOTH SIDES against each other.
Either way, the Globalists always WIN on the world stage.
Meanwhile, the people of the world are being 'played' big time.
12:26 PM at RayB
You made some really good points. Thank you.
You may not agree and certainly there can be viable viewpoints each with some part of the picture correct, but that way I see it this way is because it is how things are shaping up in current circumstances and in looking at the way the world is forming, once again, a global "beef" against Israel, it is clear a showdown on the world stage is coming (and prophetic). The UN, the EU, the "International Court", etc., (those self appointed talking heads all of them with a view that counters the Bible (but they are used as a tool in His hand for a time and place in history and God will deal with them at the time of His choosing) want to resoundingly censure Israel for abuses that do not really add up to that accusation, while other countries are egregiously abusing people, openly and unapologetically, and going without censure and punishment, is glaring. That is the "justice" system of this world for you.
If God allows something by His permissive will to be, it can only be because He sovereignly has a plan and purpose for it so He signs these things as they "come across His desk" so to speak, so that they are--they actually happen. Secular Israel has a place in the grand scheme of things, fact is, secular Zionism formed as God has allowed it to, and has been a way, a vehicle, to get Jews (worldwide) back into the land which really does fulfill a future prophecy. That land (is God's and He knows among those people who are His) will be the scene of huge upheaval, but also huge redemption, to conclude some business the Lord has outstanding with His rebellious people connected to that land by God's Word at it's inception.
From the Lord's Word and standpoint, not all Israel is the Israel of God, and God will step in and deal with that when He is ready. Meanwhile the times of the Gentiles are in progress and advancing--all toward the conclusion that God spoke long time ago. He won't miss one detail.
The devil hates with all of hell's passion, the Jewish people, they are a reminder of God's power and promises from the get-go, that he would love to undo and keep them from being brought into God's fold when God takes the scales from their eyes (but can't) and the Bride of Christ, those redeemed who know to Whom they belong to (not this world!).
Things are really going to come to a crescendo for the true Christian, and the true Jew, because the Lord will bring them both a rescue only He can pull off.
Thank God for the cross and the empty tomb, where God took care of heaven's business and showed His Almighty Power, and will mop up the floor with the devil, in more of His earthly "business", when He returns.
And we have front row seats.
How I see this at present......God can and will make all known to us in time.
"keep them from being brought into God's fold when God takes the scales from their eyes (but can't)
I meant to say--but the devil can't prevent them to be brought in--to clarify
"anyone making such a serious charge against an individual or group of people without any foundation, is committing a grievous sin, and needs to be confessed and repented of."
Around here, "X" and the "poet", have a lot to repent of, for just what is described in that statement.
Constance's "probably racist" statement about people opposing Biden's nominee is pretty much over the top, too.
EXCLUSIVE: How these American premature twins escaped the war in incubators: Lenny and Moishe were born 8 weeks early in a Kyiv hospital that has now been destroyed and were smuggled out in an extraordinary rescue dubbed 'project Gemini'
Lenny and Moishe Spektor were born in Kyiv 11 days ago via a Ukrainian surrogate called Katerina
They are the first children of Sasha Spektor, 46, and his wife, who live in Athens, Georgia
The couple were still in the US when Katerina had an emergency C-section on February 25th at 32 weeks
The babies weighed 4lbs when they were born and spent their first nights in the basement of a church
US Army Lt. Commander Bryan Stern of Project Dynamo evacuated them in an ambulance on Monday
He hired a driver, translator, neo-natal nurses and ambulance team to drive the boys to the Polish border
They carried them in incubators concealed in bags and had hand warmers and hot water bottles on hand in case the ambulance lost power
The hospital floor where the boys were born has now been wiped out by Putin's attacks
The boys are safe in Poland with their father - they can return to the US when they have gained more weight
Spektor moved to the US in 1989 as a Jewish refugee from what was then the Soviet Union. He named his sons after his grandfathers, who fought the Nazis in WWII
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10594603/How-American-premature-twin-babies-escaped-war-Ukraine-incubators.html
The Jews are who God says they are.
He knows them by their DNA because He made them.
He knows those that are His, that are Jews that have been, are being, and will be, saved. He knows who is physical and spiritual Israel both. Again, God knows those that are His (and in each, and every era, until the last one).
God does the sorting. It's not ours to do that.
I keep a wait and see look on world events.
God will clarify all this for us.
Meanwhile, we love our neighbor as ourselves...
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/victoria-nuland-ukraine-has-biological?s=w
Oh what tangled webs we weave.....
https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/03/09/russia-to-the-u-s-we-have-found-your-biological-weapons/
Be careful not to choke too much on this info disinfo troll, x..
@ 5:25 PM
Just musing here but....
...has the whole world become what seems to be one giant Bio-Weapons Lab and all the rest of us have become their lab rats?
Staging practice runs for experiments on us like Event 201 (and previous, no doubt) that are not just for practice anymore?
2:46 pm
"Around here, "X" and the "poet", have a lot to repent of, for just what is described in that statement."
Not at all. It's not really that serious of a charge...as we all have tribal instincts and bias towards our group but some, like RayB, take it to extremes and/or wear it as a political ideology. When he does and I call him on it, I provide a foundation for such claims.
For example, the notion that ANY organized group of black persons, any individual person of color who ever supported BLM a single day their lives are marxists is systemic racism designed to stoke and label such persons and any legimate claims or grieveances they may have with red scare.
It's actually class and race warfare itself and likewise marxist itself.
Ray earned the label. He's the one that can repent.
x
It is my understanding the bio-labs in Ukraine were level 3 labs which the US assisted Ukraine setting up under President George Bush to help former soviet block countries, that were then independent, secure any and all biological and/or other dangerous materials left behind in such countries themselves (to prevent such from falling into the wrong hands -- like the black market and terrorists).
Seems to me to still remain interesting Russian and/or Chinese propaganda.
x
anon said: "Constance's "probably racist" statement about people opposing Biden's nominee is pretty much over the top, too."
there was a foundation for saying "PROBABLY" too...
The Maga/Qanon folks here never complained of sexism when Trump indicated he would be replacing RBG with a woman.
x
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/uranium-producers-soar-after-us-said-weigh-sanctions-russian-nuclear-giant-rosatom
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html --- 2015 remember Hillary's deal through a Canadian businessman and donor and her yellow cake to share with Russia (Obama approved and made the pathway for)? The mine in the article is very close to where my family lives in Wyoming.
..the one that can repent.
We all know it won't be you.
But your pride will take you down.
So long. It wasn't nice knowin' ya.
606 pm.
I recognize your attempt to associate this with Obama overrides your discernment; but, Senators....especially Jr. Senators in the minority party (2005-2006), don't really "set that up".
Controlling, reducing, destroying and safely storing weapons left behind by the former soviet union throughout eastern europe was all part of the BiPartisan Soviet Nuclear Threat Reduction Act of 1991, signed into law by George H.W. Bush December 12, 1991.
Nunn-Lugar 25th Anniversary Shows Cooperative Security Worked
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault-nunn-lugar-russia-programs/2016-12-12/nunn-lugar-25th-anniversary-shows
Giving Ukraine even more money to quickly dispose of more than 15,000 TONS of ammunition, 400,000 small arms and 1,000 anti-aircraft missiles as well as the reduction and safe storage of chemical and biological dangers in the year 2005-2006 was pushed by Richard Lugar (R) as the then Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee and signed by President George W. Bush in 2006.
The fact that Obama tagged along with the chairman of his committee, Dick Lugar, in 2005 as a 6 month old Senator is irrelevant. He probably voted for the bill, like most other Senators at the time and President George W. Bush signed it to actually make the funding happen.
Note also, Obama never himself travelled back to Ukraine as President.
https://history.state.gov/departmenthistory/travels/president/obama-barack
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7:33 PM
So?
He was cutting his political teeth-the beginnings are one thing, but what had this become on his watch when President? And since, since he (and Soros etc) are pulling Biden's puppet strings..
And I care nothing about what you think so keep posting your delusions about how stellar the job you think your Dem president and his regime are doing. Have fun ;)
3:55 PM,
The Jews are who God says they are.
He knows them by their DNA because He made them.
He knows those that are His, that are Jews that have been, are being, and will be, saved. He knows who is physical and spiritual Israel both. Again, God knows those that are His (and in each, and every era, until the last one).
God does the sorting. It's not ours to do that.
I keep a wait and see look on world events.
God will clarify all this for us.
Meanwhile, we love our neighbor as ourselves...
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Israel does seem special. The Jews do seem special. Satan has been trying to destroy them ever since they existed. He was trying to prevent the promise being fulfilled of Jesus being born as the seed of Abraham and as the woman's seed that would oppose the serpent's seed and as the king from the line of David.
It is unusual for a people to preserve their identity after being led into captivity and scattered in the nations of the world. It is unheard of for the scattered to regather.
If the Rothschilds played a role in the regathering, God can work through the heathens, too.
I completely understand why people believe the Jews and Israel are special.
But what does the Bible say?
John the Baptist told people that God could raise up sons of Abraham from the rocks if He wanted to. He urged them to repent.
The Apostle Paul said that a true Jew is one with a circumcised heart. The promises were made to Abraham's seed, who was Jesus Christ; not to Abraham's seeds, all genetic offspring. This shouldn't be surprising. In Genesis, Eve was promised that her seed would oppose the serpent's seed. She hoped it would happen immediately with one of her own sons. It was about Jesus Christ. She didn't know it. It was kept a secret, a mystery. Jesus was the mystery of the Old Testament. Throughout the New Testament, the Apostles told their churches the ways in which various prophecies from the Old Testament were being fulfilled by Jesus Christ during His ministry. Abraham and David had looked forward to a better promised land (heaven).
When the temple burned in Jerusalem in 70 AD, the geneological records perished with it. The high priests of the temple had to come from the line of Aaron. Their DNA was very preserved. It had to be kept pure. If the wife of a priest committed adultery she was burned. Adultery meant adulteration, or impurity, or the creation of impure offspring. It was a physical shadow and type, foreshadowing the spiritual adultery of Jerusalem and the burning of Jerusalem.
Only the high priests from the line of Aaron would be permitted under the ancient Mosaic law to perform sacrifices in a rebuilt third temple in Jerusalem.
Would the ark of the Covenant be found and placed in the Holy of Holies, in the inner sanctuary, too?
After the Romans burned Jerusalem, when the Jews who remained alive were led into captivity, they became scattered. It's unlikely that Aaron's priestly line was preserved in its pure DNA all this time. Even if it happened, it would be impossible to prove it, with the perishing of the geneological records in the burning of Jerusalem.
You've said several times that God is revealing what we need to know as we need to know it. I will not believe it unless there is an authentic revelation of the sealed seven thunders of Revelation. Everything else but the seven thunders was not sealed. It meant it was immediately applicable during the time of the Apostle John.
But the seven thunders were sealed so there must have been more to come. I believe it's wrong to speculate about what the seven thunders said. There must have been a reason why John was forbidden to write them. We're just not supposed to know. We're not allowed to know every secret of God.
Until we have an authentic revelation of the seven thunders, and the seven thunders say something that confirms any part of Dispensationalism, I don't think we should read Dispensationalism into the Bible.
I think we should hope for the Jewish people to become converted to Christianity equally as much as other peoples.
What is disturbing about Dispensationalism is that it undermines the sovereignty of God. It implies He failed and did not predestine from the beginning what would happen. But the Bible said the lamb was slain from the foundations of the earth. It was always predestined. To imply that God's Plan A failed and so then God had to come up with a Plan B is to undermine His sovereignty.
The Bible tells us that the first Christian converts were the Hebrew people. Only after the twelve apostles, one for each tribe of Israel, had finished bringing the gospel to their own people, did the apostle Paul turn to the gentiles.
The Apostle Paul wrote about an olive tree with gentile branches grafted onto it. He said the same God who broke off some of the Jewish branches could graft them back on later at His will. Paul even said that God planned to provoke them with jealousy that the gentiles were being saved so that more of the Jews would become saved. Paul grieved for his people but fulfilled his commission to be the Apostle to the gentiles. The unrepentant of Jerusalem had ample warnings, 40 years to repent after Jesus died.
Jesus told them while He was in their midst and before His crucifixion that the innocent blood shed from Abel to the prophets would be avenged upon that very generation. A generation in the Bible is considered to last 40 years. In Revelation John identified the destroyed city as the same place where our Lord was crucified and where the prophets had been killed.
The original church creeds never taught that all of Revelation was yet to be fulfilled. They only taught a Second Coming of Jesus Christ, a bodily resurrection and a final judgement day. Revelation speaks of more than one judgment and more than one resurrection.
P.S. Not only does Dispensationalism undermine the sovereignty of God. It undermines the redemptive work of Jesus Christ. It makes of Him a king without a kingdom. Therefore it makes Him no king.
Amen J
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