Thursday, July 09, 2015

General Vallely says "Army didn't know" - Aquino says, "everybody knew" about Aquino's early Satanism

NOTE TO READERS:  I have expanded and enlarged the material here, so please refresh your browser to view the critical materials below on the "Evolution of the Insignia of the Order of the Trapezoid."   

I will confess to being nearly preoccupied with the ramifications of the relationship beween Major General (Retired) Paul Vallely and Michael Aquino, one of the world's most prominent Satanists.  Vallely in a statement to some of his local supporters in my area claims that the Army asked him to investigate Aquino, presumably after he, Vallely, asked Aquino to draft a paper for him on Psyop (aka Brainwashing) projects.

Cover of Aquino's newest book, EXTREME PREJUDICE.  On page 197 numbered paragraph 20, Aquino writes that his religion (Satanism) was well known to all in the military since his commissioning in 1968 and never was the basis for any negative or adverse action.


As I nearly affiliated myself with a group of well meaning women who organized themselves under the suggestion and direction of Generals McInerney, Vallely and Boykin, I thought I should see just how far the infestation, were it to be found one, had gone.  Where was it heading?  Who would want a group of women uniformed, armed, and ready for "Egyptian Spring" cum "Operation America Spring" combat?  Why?

Almost as an afterthought, I asked the woman honoring me by offering me a seat on the board of directors of her organization that had been inspired by three patriotic American generals, "Who were the generals?"  The names McInerney, Vallely and Boykin were given.

I do an internet radio program on TMERadio.com networks each and every Saturday morning from 10 am to 12 pm Eastern Time.   I was preparing for that program when suddenly, at approximately 11:30 p.m. on the Friday night before, I decided to "google" the three generals.  As my beloved husband has a last name that starts with "Mac", I remembered "McInerney first.  When I clicked on that, up popped several pictures with "People also search for".  Included was a picture of "Paul Vallely.  As that was the second name mentioned to me, I clicked on that.  Honestly, I expected to find nothing but a long list of military honors and medals.  Instead, what popped up was a piece on "Major General Paul Vallely stained by past with Devil Worshipper."  He was referring to Michael A. Aquino.

My mouth nearly fell to the floor and I made an improvident 11:45 call to leave a message on the phone of the lovely lady who had invited me to be part of the organization.  I had personally researched Michael Aquino since the early to mid 1980s.  I had received 1985-1986 intelligence from a researcher who was also a former girlfriend of Michael Aquino (Linda Blood) that Michael Aquino was operating under "the protection" of a Brigadier General Paul Vallely.  Linda Blood wrote a brilliant book available from me by request in .pdf form.  Email me at cumbey@gmail.com and put "New Satanists" in the subject line and I'll send you the file which she graciously made freely available to all.

Aquino I had immediately recalled.  That there was a "Brigadier General" involved with him, I also remembed, but not the name until I searched my scanned archives (also archived by the University of Michigan Bentley Historical Library) and found Vallely identified as the then (1986) benefactor/protector.  It was part of a detailed and footnoted article I wrote for my then newsletter, Constance Cumbey's New Age Perspective, Vol. 1, No. 2, June 1986.

Who is Michael Aquino?  Why should anybody be concerned that he was touring NATO installations on behalf our military and co-authoring Psyop directives with a known "darling" of the Tea Party, General Paul Vallely (now retired) for our military academies?  The picture here will give you no small hint:


Michael & Lillith Aquino in their San Francisco chapel of their Temple of Set.  This "Church" dedicated to old Slewfoot himself was formed by Michael Aquino in 1975 because he basically felt that Anton Szandor LaVey's Church of Satan didn't go far enough in its beliefs in the mystical power of Satan.

Needless to say, I quickly made my concerns known to the leaders of the organization I had nearly joined.  I understand General Vallely was quick to respond and his response was passed on to me.  It is quoted below:

Back in early 1980s [he] was Commander of the 7th Psychological Group, a Colonel at the time, Colonel Paul Vallely was assigned by Army senior officers  to study what the Soviets were doing about mind control, or what we now refer to as Psychological Operations. Major Aquino was a very competent, a graduate of UC Santa Barbara with a PHD. The  now famous paper "From PSYOP to Mindwar: The Psychology of Victory". See link here:


Shortly thereafter, it was learned that Major Aquino was associated with the Temple of Set , based and registered in California, founded in 1975. The church was a Satanist sect and was actively recruiting members in the Army and the Army Hq was none-too-pleased. an Army  General then assigned Col. Vallely to investigate the case and report the findings to the Department of the Army in Washington.  Colonel Vallely was the one who conducted the investigation and determined the facts.
Ok.  Now Vallely sets a time line that not until after he did his Psyop (i.e. Brainwashing) paper with Michael Aquino, did he and/or the Military have knowledge of Aquino's Satanism.

What does Aquino have to say about this?  Very simply, on page 197 of his very newest book, EXTREME PREJUDICE, a book that paints the Temple of Set and Church of Satan as very innocent entities up against obviously evil and prejudiced Christians, he claims that his Satanism was well known to all in the military from the very inception of his Commissioning in 1968, 18 years before I wrote my newsletter on him and General Vallely.  That was also 12 years before General (then Colonel) Vallely commissioned the Psyop paper for "new and innovative ideas" -- from what they had to know was a most unnerving source.


This is an article by Michael Aquino on the "Evolution of the
Order of the Trapezoid insignia.  Note the unmistakable 666.


This is Aquino's symbol as it presently exists.  He creaed this version from the inspiration he
received while "meditating" / "invoking spirits" that possessed Himmler and SS forces at
Welwelsburg Castle, Germany.  See below for his explanation.  In this article Aquino states that the 666 was removed b y Anton Lavey.  When Aquino went through his "meditation" in that old Nazi castle, he (Aquino) restored the 666 as well as the flames of fire.  



Somebody's lying here!  In this case, I have to conclude that this time it is, unfortunately, General Vallely.   In the far fetched and unconvincing alternative, we may construe "military intelligence" as a term that here has a very oxymoronic meaning.  At any rate, I have no intention of allowing my own name to be used in matters promoted by General Vallely as long as he continues to advance his own pre-1980 claim of innocence as to Aquino's Satanic involvement.  The General claims to be a Catholic.  If so, I would urge him to reflect on the annual Easter re-affirmation of Baptismal vows:  Do you reject Satan?  I DO.  "And all of his works?"  I do.

Employing Satanic techniques as a "cost-effective" military method will not protect our country.  Worse yet, it will endanger souls.

Stay tuned!

CONSTANCE




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Anonymous said...

http://gawker.com/gop-committee-agrees-obama-didn-t-fuck-up-benghazi-

Anonymous said...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatekeeper

There are more gatekeepers than truth seekers

Anonymous said...

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/lopez_clare

I am still on topic, a reminder who she is in photo 5:

http://www.standupamericaus.org/politics-washington-dc/legacy-group-launch-mg-vallely/

Anonymous said...

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2014/09/16/clare-lopez-with-q-society-in-sydney-australia/

She gives the whole dog and pony show here if you are interested.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

hmmmm. remember maybe last year or early this year, I suggested that since
the Arab Spring revolts always end up with radical muslims in charge and
more persecution of Christians than usual, and since they have a CIA origin,
maybe they represent a covert "unholy war" by closet Satanists in USA
government (incl. the non elected and/or eminence gris category) against
Christians in the Middle East?

well, isn't it beginning to look like I'm right!

Anonymous said...

The brotherhood's work together MCE

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion scroll down to American section also.

civil religion has also been used to refer to the view of religion, especially
Christianity, as valuable not because it is true but because of social benefits
it provides (stability, obedience to God ordained authority, etc.) which arguments
were made as an aside not a central point to pagan emperors by Christian apologists,
but are made the central issue in a lot of Americanist talk past and present.

People who support this sort of thing and lead depraved lives on the side, may
often be something a little more than merely hypocrites, though they are that also.
A pure hypocrite, for lack of a better term, would be someone who merely says
one thing, does another and hopes to play both sides of the fence not get caught
and have public fame and glory or at least credibility in the respectable world.

But there are those, ranging from homosexual (bisexual) and promiscuous and various
corruption style people, who are very promotive of the Christian civil religion,
precisely because they DO value the social stability and enough law and order to
serve their purposes, do not want total chaos that might endanger their interests.
While this dual purpose was in some places in the past out in the open, double
standards not only for men and women but for whole classes and castes, in America
and Christianized Europe this game had to be more secret. popular culture values
opposed to chastity of men and opposed to calling out evil and suppressive of
the "snitch culture" so no one would "rat them off" but feel guilty for considering
it instead of obligated to report or publicly expose, and all kinds of pragmatic
corruption and "that's the way things are" were and are common and totally
unbiblical.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

When I see things like "heritage" and "destiny" and "American" in group names
I figure this is more of the same thing, mere civil religion. This is the trap I
fell into many years ago and God got me out of it.

the love of power is part of this, being part of a big movement on the right side
of history etc. etc., start with serving God by politics then gradually politics
replaces God. THE CONCERN FOR THE FAMILY IS ONLY PARTLY A MORAL ISSUE. A DRIVER
PERHAPS INDICATED BY THE CHOICE OF FOCUS BEING "FAMILY" IS THE DESIRE TO HAVE
A SMALL POND YOU CAN PLAY BIG FISH IN.

George Washington warned that every man would be a tyrant if he could be. That
applies to women also. The responsibility to God to raise children right, and
secondarily to society meaning everyone they could affect if they grow up wrong,
subtly shifts to RIGHTS over the children and a sense of ownership. Legitimate
concerns about the quality of education and culture in schools, leading to home
schooling, gets co-opted by a drive to isolation and having power over others in
your home.

The sharply distinct roles in the family that such usually propose does not change
this. A person who is on a lower rung can still feel powerful over their children
and the older children over the younger. All close ranks against the outside, and
because of brainwashing and excess, disordered storge type love, the person who
needs help against intrafamily tyranny may even back the tyrant. Or they for a
similar reason or fear of the parent, or of the older sibling, close ranks against
an outsider with a legitimate complaint against the family member.

this is what is known as "respecting persons" in the Bible which warns that God is
NOT a "respecter of persons," not one who considers rank or family relationship
or lack thereof between victim and victimizer in condemning someone for abusing
another. (such a relationship might make the situation worse for the perpetrator
in God's eyes, but never makes it better.)

Hierarchy is not a bad thing in itself. but the pride of identity and group or
personal power and the relegation of Christianity and Jesus Christ and God the Father
to a mere aide de camp to "civilization" is step one in the direction of developing
satanic values.

there is a respectable kind of Satanism that meshes well with proper society. There
is the wild eyed gun toting hippie pervert commie anarchist and/or biker and/or
stoner gange type Satanism that gets the press. Sometimes their personal or group
goals conflict. After all you can't take a walk on the wild side if there is nothing
BUT the wild side.

Anonymous said...

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2013/08/29/72-types-of-americans-that-are-considered-potential-terrorists-in-official-government-documents/


Interesting List of enemies of the state

False Flags do they have too much laughing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmzJoUX9EO4

Anonymous said...

This research is supported by the DHS Science and Technology Directorate's Human Factors/Behavioral Sciences Division

http://www.start.umd.edu/news/database-spotlight-profiles-perpetrators-terrorism-united-states-ppt-us

(best gangster accent) Yeah Joe how's that agent provocation program goin'? Uh ...duh...yeah Larry has that chart to show youse how wez r doing. Increased in the Christian Militancy 90% boyz, uh yeah good job guys, (laughing) send in the false flag and watch the increase monitor.

Anonymous said...

Parallel everything to the time of Jesus' ministry on the earth and you can see that it was all facets of the political world, the religious world, and the secular world, the entire world system, all put into a big blender and poured out against Him, for such a time as then, and fast forwarded, for such a time as this. Jesus did not move in their circles because He worked outside of it, but His impact upon each, made Him their enemy.
Look at the movers and shakers in each sector - all of these personalities, pundits and players, each with their moment in the sun, in their blended agendas and we see that there is nothing new under the sun.............what has gone around has now come around again----but much bigger, more encompassing and complete, and the final push is just around the next corner in world events.
Some good has come to the forefront, and God only sometimes get the headline (at the moment), but it is the bad that is ruling the day.

And we know the Bible called it long, long time ago.
The knowledge and the wisdom of the word of God and the Spirit of God in Christ who illumines it for us, is how we can detect what our times and those who are "in charge" to shape the world's thinking and doing, are really after. Just like they treated Jesus, so it happens today. Some are opposed outwardly and openly, some are opposed cloaking it inwardly, behind closed doors (while they name drop His name to their own benefit), some are just going with the flow because they worship the god of their belly, whatever (or whomever in this narcissistic, celebrity age) that happens to be.
It's been said that the enemy of the best is always the good. And I keep in mind that in these days evil is called good and good is called evil, as we are told in the book of Isaiah. I think we are most assuredly looking at this today in those who have what is for our "good" in mind. Thanks, but no thanks...........

The world, the flesh and the devil are going full out now.
God had won then...(the Cross of Jesus and His Empty Tomb are proof)....and God wins now.
(so glad I know how this ends).

The now the Bible is referring to is almost here.

Anonymous said...

Susanna is not spinning anything. The liberals I know admit that they have no use for Pope Francis, except to use his some of his views to beat the conservatives over the head with.

I not falling for the bait.

Anonymous said...

For those into the technical, psychological and mathematical data they use to these influence operations.

http://start.foxtrotdev.com/descriptives

http://www.start.umd.edu/publication/profiles-individual-radicalization-united-states-preliminary-findings

https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/PIRUS%20Research%20Brief_Jan%202015.pdf

DHS and University of MD funded by Guggenheim grants, these links, worth looking over, take all of that BS 'war on terror' into the twisted land of thought and behavior control, with influence operations and provocation. It's all minds wars and pawns in a game stuff. Over my head, I'll stick to the Gospel and the parts where Jesus NEVER had a gun.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Jihadi islam was not created by British or American intelligence. But it was
facilitated and used on purpose by it at times. It is of course a dandy threat
to the US to use as an excuse for totalitarianism. But it is a REAL threat.
I doubt anything Boykin or anyone of that crew has to say about it is a lie.
Its just that instead of such being an inconvenient truth, it is a CONVENIENT
truth. There is plenty of information way predating all this showing what islam
was like without western restraints. Whatever Shoebat's eschatological errors,
the present and past information is good. This is not really new stuff to me.
The rewrite of jihad as an internal fight against one's own evil inclinations
is a recent development in terms of centuries, after islam had no one to fight
that it could beat and had conquered everyone it could.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.technocracyrising.com/data_dominance_technocracys_final_hurdle?utm_campaign=datadominance&utm_medium=email&utm_source=technocracy

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://khouse.org/articles/2015/1247 Chuck Missler joins the Flat Earth Society by
way of universe as hologram theory.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I just posted this on Galatians4 I stumbled on checking up on Missler. Being
subject to blog approval, it may not post.

"Furthermore, men like MacArthur, Ray Comfort, Paul Washer, James MAcDonald, and many more of the "younger breed" Christian teachers don't understand Biblical salvation as being ONLY an acceptence of what Jesus did in our place on the cross. Repentence in terms of salvation, is simply to ACKNOWLEDGE THE TRUTH. This acknowledgement comes ONLY by the revealing work of the Spirit. A person who KNOWS Jesus IS BORN AGAIN. Turning from sinful things and giving ourselves in service DOES NOT save us!!!!!!!!!!!! The regenerating work of the Spirit saves us regardless of what we choose to do with our new life in Him. "

That's not what Jesus said. parable of the talents (a kind of coin not an ability)
Matt. 25:21-30.
separation of sheep from goats, note both call Him Lord. Matt. 26:31-46
The parable of the sower, note that only the first category could possibly qualify
as not having accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior at some point.
Matt.13:3-23
charismatic Christians and suchlike who were workers of iniquity
Matt. 7:21-23

and by the way, "Bible believer" yes there are carnal Christians because PAUL
SAID THERE ARE CARNAL CHRISTIANS I COR 3:1-3 looks like both letters to the
Corinthians are specifically addressed to carnal Christians. And you say there
is no such thing? try READING your Bible ALL a Gospel at once ALL an Epistle
at once, none of this bits and pieces stuff. you will be surprised at the result.

As for deception of nephilim, I think Missler may be part of a plot to make
Christians not mind the idea of roundups and extermination, such targeted for
this could be labeled "nephilim hybrids" not pure human and this supposedly
determined by some DNA testing that only the special anti nephilim forces in the
govt. taken over by dominionists and nephilim hunters know how to do. All of it
false, of course. https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3590123653277147765&postID=4487775335786086868&page=1&token=1437426048243

Anonymous said...

Jihadi Islam is Babylon Mysticism. Beheading is a satanic specialty.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.naturalnews.com/040859_Skynet_quantum_computing_D-Wave_Systems.html#

Anonymous said...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Heavens

Anonymous said...

It is not clear how long the army has known about Aquino's peculiar genus of satanism. But the San Francisco police have been exceptionally interested since about 1980. The interest crested in November 1987 when police raided a house where a three-year-old girl told police she had been molested by a sinister-looking man named "Mickey" who snapped pictures of her in the bathtub and sexually mistreated her in a room with black walls and a cross etched on the ceiling. The girl later spotted "Mickey" in the PX at the Presidio army base in San Francisco, where Aquino was stationed. The girl said she thought "Mickey" was Aquino. The girl also said she recognized Mrs. Aquino. Meanwhile, authorities had found evidence of ongoing child abuse at the Presidio day care center. A three-year-old had also been molested, and the cops turned up six cases of sexually transmitted infection in fifty-eight other charges at the center. A thirty-four-year-old civilian day-care worker at the "Presidio facility, who was also a Southern Baptist minister was arrested. At first, the charges were dismissed. But subsequently, Hambright was indicted anew on twelve counts of sodomy, oral copulation, and lewd conduct. Hambright later died of AIDS.

Albert Churchward in his book, The Arcana of Freemasonry, confirms that Set is the Egyptian name for Satan.

That Sut or Set was first primary god of the Egyptians, but was god of the South Pole, or Southern Hemisphere, is amply proved and borne out by the monuments as well as the Ritual. Set or Sut, according to Plutarch, is the Egyptian name of Typhon--i.e. Satan of the Christian Cult."

from: http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/aleister_crowley1.htm

So Levy is connected to Alistair Crowley. How did I miss that one?

Anonymous said...

SO back to Plato: mp3: http://www.historyofphilosophy.net/plato-myth/

To Plato we go and this is his take on all these false flags (above), or rather "noble lies" as he called them. He was condemning "myths" and the inventing his own "myths". Crap I just saw my life before me in the new Plato's republic, one (Alexandria Library AKA world wide web internet) link tells the truth, another condemn's it and offers more propaganda. we didn't go to the moon...the photo's are fake... they were faked to hide the UFO's...the aliens are coming...but only for the enlightened ones...pay not attention to the Libor scandal...it's the Jews...no it's the Muslims...

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/plato-myths/#PlaMytPlaTraBib

Anonymous said...

"The spirit of the Creator means beheading"

http://www.kabbalah.info/eng/content/view/frame/2880?/eng/content/view/full/2880&main

Cindy said...

"Aquino went on to describe how they believe that they, as Satanists, are now becoming gods. This was at the heart of Satan’s initial rebellion and now Aquino was parroting the essence of Satanism, which is a desire to usurp the true and living God’s authority and follow Satan into God-realization.

“We are not servants of some God,” declared Aquino, “we are our own gods!” Oprah Winfrey appeared to be shocked to find out that this was exactly what she believed as a New Ager, failing to realize that the New Age movement has it roots in Crowleyan Satanism even as Aquino’s Satanism."


It's clear from Scripture that true Christians are to put on the full armor of God to protect yourselves from the devil and his evil schemes.

We’re not waging war against enemies of flesh and blood alone. No, this fight is against tyrants, against authorities, against supernatural powers and demon princes that slither in the darkness of this world, and against wicked spiritual armies that lurk about in heavenly places.

And this is why you need to be head-to-toe in the full armor of God: so you can resist during these evil days and be fully prepared to hold your ground. Ephesians 6


From observation, many Christians try to wage war against flesh and blood alone without realizing what's behind the flesh and blood person in front of them.

Cindy said...

Many articles here about Aquino.

Anonymous said...

Group as in just a name people would call themselves, 'god's army' which religious extremism to DHS

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQAJXzeHvUI

Video above; Vallely calls for constitution crisis and demanding the resignation of the Obama team etc. Ok so what a dumb guy or a very sharp "agent of influence", even the WIKI says this can be the cause for civil war. Talk about a constitutional crisis in France and shall discuss the French Revolution which resulted in a four year blood bath.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_crisis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution

Basque Christians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basques

"Nevertheless, the Basques enjoyed a great deal of self-government until the French Revolution"

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 7:01

God's Army aka endtimes army aka Joel's Army is an idea been going around for
a while now, under various names. Though they talk about spiritual warfare,
they are so into militaristic phrasing that an easy transition to physical
action would be possible, and they figure they will be part of the tribulation,
purifying the church. they will kill off the lukewarm Christians meaning those
who don't have the latter rain/manifest sons of God/endtime overcomer/whatever its
name is this year anointing they have. http://www.bing.com/search?q=herescope+joel's+army&form=MSSEDF&pc=MSSE several articles. Constance exposed
this movement in A Planned Deception I think she mentioned them in the MSOG
context.

the DHS is not far wrong in some of the categorizations they look at. I wouldn't
want them around me either.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.discernment-ministries.org/JoelsArmy.pdf

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I see even Jewel Grewe didn't get it about Joel's Army she so excellently refutes.
late in the booklet, she thinks it is the army Christ brings with Him. NO!
READ THE CONTEXT OF JOEL'S PROPHECY! this is a malevolent almost demonic army
that is brought against sinning Israel, and will be sent to its destruction in
the wilderness somewhere if Israel repents. This is either a hyperbolic representation
of Babylonians or more likely something later, but it is something evil God uses
for His purpose, it is not the armies of Heaven!

Anonymous said...

Susannah, thanks for the links on George Pell (a couple of which I'd previously read). Here is another from earlier this year. http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/cardinal-pell-to-pro-lifers-synod-will-massively-endorse-tradition I feel that half the grief he receives is due to the fact that he actually is true to the faith. Doesn't deviate from the doctrine to suit himself but continues to promote it as it stands. I guess that trouble is bound to follow those who don't cave to whatever the latest trends are in Western Society these days but that is part and parcel of the daily fight as a Keeper of the Word.

From OZ

Marko said...

Anon. 5:35 pm....

Wow. I keep finding more and more evidence that the Presidio is a center of evil here in the US. Of course, it got a lot of notoriety when Gorbachev moved in, but there seem to be a lot of nefarious characters and organizations associated with the Presidio besides ol' Gorby. Thanks for adding one more name to the list.

Here's an interesting article that makes a lot of interesting connections:

http://www.kenraggio.com/KRPN-Gorbachev-PresidiumtoPresidio.htm

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/raymond-ibrahim-when-muslims-betray-non-muslim-friends-and-neighbors

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

well isn't this just special:

"One area is with paramilitary training of youth and indoctrination. "Jesus Camp" detailed what is actually a mild version of this in Assemblies of God circles; increasingly common are literal boot camps, including literal paramilitary training in the Assemblies' "Christian alternative" to Scouting. Movements popular in the Assemblies and its "daughters" tend to be even worse; Bill Gothard runs a literal paramilitary training facility for "Joel's Army" youth.

This also means that the US military has become an increasing target for infiltration. The very paramilitary training camp noted above has gotten quite official sanction by the general in charge of most of the US Air Force's military recon and IT security. This effort has become disturbingly successful; no less than two of the primary parties involved in the Abu Ghraib scandal including policymaker William Boykin are directly involved in the Assemblies and the "Joel's Army" movement within the denomination, and in many cases the US government has literally been paying for packing the chaplaincy of the US Army and Air Force with "Joel's Army" promoters. (Boykin is especially interesting in this regard; he has quite explicitly referred to Joel's Army theology in speeches to his fellow soldiers.) One of the major groups involved in infiltration of the military, Campus Crusade for Christ, has been known to promote this sort of theology as well."

Go to article to click on links in the paragraph above to get to several
articles. (This writer snivels about the massacres in the early phase of Moses' and
Joshua's conquest of Canaan, but this sort of thing God specifically limited to that
time and place, and the whole Joel's ARmy and related stuff, incl. Phineas
priesthood, at most a validation of individual vigilantism not a military action, is
definitely NOT part of the end times picture except among deceived Christians maybe.
Joel's prophecy is about an army of heathens which if Israel will repent, will be
driven back by God and DESTROYED by God, this is nothing any Christian should aspire
to be. CONTEXT in Bible reading anyone? only a few verses from the verses they love
to holler about, yet they miss them? they don't read in context.)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/05/21/519046/--Joel-s-Army-and-omnicide-in-the-name-of-God

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

the problem with articles like the above and linked articles, is that they tend
to lump all issues together, and of course so do the conservatives. Sorting it out,
however, is a clear trend to equate Christianity with politics, supremacy, etc.
and a total lack of ethics or commonsense. For instance, critics of "enhanced
interrogation" point out that you usually don't get good intelligence from this,
since the tortured will say whatever will get them a break. Clever interrogators
look at subtle reaction indicators (the sort of things that DO let you see someone's
heart contrary to misquotation and misapplication of the Bible) to weasel information
and put the target in binds they let stuff slip.

it was AFTER the delegation from Boykin and the supposedly Christian Chaplain Jordan
that the worst happened at Abu Ghraib, which incl. not only simulated but forced
actual sexual events AND THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPE OF A BOY BY AN ARMY INTERROGATOR IN FRONT OF HIS FATHER.

Satanic values of power, domination and submission and the kinky thrills thereof
are evident throughout the whole "Christian" values things about sex and sex roles
and are essentially, ends in themselves, not means to ends. Absolutes, God being
validated by HIs usefulness in His Bible supposedly supporting all this, the morals
and order they supposedly support being merely an excuse for either their exercise
or the ongoing sense of power ready to use at a moment's notice.

The perverseness of Focus on the Family is shown in the recommendation that sons
shower with fathers to get a sense of maleness supposedly this will prevent homosexuality,
and that daughters should have the heart and soul romance with fathers that in fact
belongs only with a potential mate! I can still remember that sickening article!

Susanna said...

Marko, 10:00 P.M.

Good link. Here is a two-part article by the late Dr. Stanley Monteith which mentions the Presidio and lots of other things as well.

May, 2005
THE OCCULT HIERARCHY
PART I Dr Stanley Monteith

http://osdir.com/ml/culture.discuss.cia-drugs/2005-08/msg00589.html
_____________________________________________________________________

The following article has been posted before, but it deserves to be reread every so often in light of present knowledge about the New Age Movement - if only because of the close affiliation between the occultists of the West and those of the East. It is not to be forgotten that Socialism did not originate in Russia. It originated in France!

Papus was a disciple of Alexandre Saint-Yves d"Alveydre who developed the political philosophy that came to be known as "Synarchy"......"rule by a secret elite." Moreover, it was Saint-Yves d'Alveydre who envisioned a Federal Europe that we now know as the European Union.

SYNARCHISM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synarchism
_________________________________________________

Occultist and Martinist Gerard Encausse ( a.k.a. Papus ), who functioned as a "bishop" in the Gnostic Church founded by Jules Doinel and was a person of influence at the court of Russia under Czar Nicholas II, is a perfect example of occult "cross pollination." And of course we must not forget that Madame Blavatsky was Russian and that Papus and many of his confreres were at one time members of the Theosophical Society which she founded!

Occult Roots of the Russian Revolution

http://www.gnostics.com/newdawn-1.html
_____________________________________________________________

Just before the "fall" of the Soviet Union, Gorbachev was already proposing a "new union."

How the West Got Moscow’s Eurasian Union Wrong
http://reconsideringrussia.org/2014/04/02/how-the-west-got-moscows-eurasian-union-wrong/
_____________________________________________________________

The Eurasian Union officially came into existence less than a year ago on January 1, 2015. The following is from the Gorbachev Foundation which was funded by many of the tax exempt foundations mentioned in the article you linked us to........most of which were at one time were under the investigation of the Reece Committee because they were suspected of using their tax exempt status to promote communism!!!

30 May 2014
Gorbachev: The Eurasian Union is not a replica of the Soviet Union
http://www.gorby.ru/en/presscenter/publication/show_29389/
________________________________________________________________________

V. V. Putin & Eastern Wisdom (From Synarchy to Shambhalah)

Like Tsar Nicholas II, President Vladimir Putin is known to be a devout Russian Orthodox believer with a strong interest in Eastern wisdom. A master of both sambo and judo, Putin has often spoken of how the martial arts – imbued with Asian philosophy – are intended to train the body and the mind. Though an Orthodox Christian, he is conscious of the spiritual authenticity of other traditional religions. And like Nicholas Roerich, who was born Orthodox Christian but later became steeped in Buddhism, Vladimir Putin may well sympathise with the view that the highest forms of all the world’s religions point to the same ultimate reality......

http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/v-v-putin-eastern-wisdom
October 18, 2014
________________________________________________________________________

The last sentence of the aforementioned article embodies the Perennialist philosophy embraced by the Traditionalist School co-founded by Rene Guenon, Ananda Coomaraswamy and Frithjof Schuon.

Susanna said...

Shock Video Catches Another Top Planned Parenthood Doctor Selling Body Parts of Aborted Babies

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/07/21/second-shock-video-catches-another-top-planned-parenthood-doctor-selling-body-parts-of-aborted-babies/
________________________________________________________

Oh, and by the way....the illustrious Dr. Nucatola who "starred" in the first undercover video is reportedly "an Obama administration advisor."

Planned Parenthood Doc Caught Selling Body Parts of Aborted Babies is an Obama Admin Adviser

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/07/20/planned-parenthood-doc-caught-selling-body-parts-of-aborted-babies-is-an-obama-admin-adviser/

Cindy said...

Thanks Susanna for the two-part article by the late Dr. Stanley Monteith.

Cindy said...

Planned Parenthood defector says loophole lets clinics profit from fetal organ sales

Susanna said...

Cindy,

Here is a video in which the late Dr. Monteith discusses the Reece Committee and the interview of the late Norman Dodd on the investigation of tax exempt foundations.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8irQifrpmEY
______________________________________________________________

I have Rene Wormser's book FOUNDATIONS: THEIR POWER AND INFLUENCE which is also mentioned at this video. It is very informative.

Rene Wormser, a lawyer who specialized in estate planning, was also involved as counsel for the Reece Committee which was a division of the House Un-American Activities Committee. I think you can read Wormser's book free here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/129462864/Foundations-Their-Power-and-Influence-by-Rene-A-Wormser
___________________________________________________________________________

Here is the riveting Norman Dodd video in case you missed it when it was last posted here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYCBfmIcHM


Cindy said...

There Is NEVER Only One Cockroach by Karl Denninger

"You know what the problem is when you're an organization and get caught as Planned Parenthood appeared to have last week?

If you go to the press and try to claim that it was a "one off" or somehow "contrived" you had damn well better be sure that there aren't more videos of the activity that you claim isn't really happening.

But...... it appears there are."

Anonymous said...

I am inclined to think that what Vallely is doing with his stand up group is in violation of the patriot act. Thanks to the person who recommended "Extreme Prejudice". "Organizing Resistance to the United States" falls under the patriot act as a crime or call it the "get the people who thought they really could do something to improve their country and didn't know they are to fall in line with the occultists or else" act. Stand members or the people they mislead could get you 25 years automatically. Thank God you didn't jump in Constance. I was also noted the many times Mossad was mentioned in just the first few chapters of the book, wow.

MCE you know as well as the rest of us that jihad-watch is the propaganda twin brother to Pam Geller's hate fest. She is a professional agent provocateur in my opinion. The DHS categories are misleading and read like a UN document, they sound so nice. I am confident MANY groups and individuals are being provoked by DHS and Mossad linked organizations based on zip code and the colored charts mapping out attitudes, values and beliefs. It's also a blueprint for the first thought crimes and BS 'crime prediction' stuff of minority report. It's heavy on Nazi style psychology as well funded research by an NGO. It's really too detailed and people who commit crimes should be punished AFTER they commit a crime and not as the result of an influence operation and bogus or manipulated prediction maps.

Anonymous said...

8:29 did you post the link ?

Anonymous said...

7:41 ...well duh Hagee is a Zionist. Assemblies of God is a counterfeit church. They follow the Lausanne Movement and the emergent church.

Susanna said...

Dear Cindy, 1:19 P.M.

You are most welcome.

Dr. Monteith also did a video in which he talks about the Reece Committee - a branch of the House Un-American Activities Committee which investigated tax exempt foundations suspected of using their tax exempt status to promote communism.

This interview by Dr. Monteith was conducted two years before the interview conducted by G. Edward Griffin in 1982. It is a riveting interview.......as is the Norman Dodd interview of 1982.

Norman Dodd Revealing The Tax Exempt Foundation Agenda in 1980 - Radio Liberty Interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK4fVyUtHSQ
_____________________________________________

The video mentions a book entitled FOUNDATIONS:THEIR POWER AND INFLUENCE by Rene Wormser which I have in my personal library. Rene Wormser, an attorney who specialized in estate planning, was the counsel for the congressional committee - the Reece Committee - commissioned to investigate the great tax-exempt foundations. You can read it here for free.


Foundations -Their Power and Influence
by Rene A. Wormser

http://www.scribd.com/doc/129462864/Foundations-Their-Power-and-Influence-by-Rene-A-Wormser
___________________________________________________


Norman Dodd (1899 - 1987) was a banker/bank manager, worked as a financial advisor and served as chief investigator in 1953 for U.S. Congressman B. Carroll Reece Special Committee on Tax Exempt Foundations (commonly referred to as the Reece Committee). He was primarily known for his controversial investigation into tax-exempt foundations

Here is the equally riveting 1982 interview conducted by G. Edward Griffin.

Norman Dodd On Tax Exempt Foundations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYCBfmIcHM

I hope you find them as informative as I did.



Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 7:11
you miss the most important negative about Pamela Geller, that she supports satanic
Ayn Rand, atheist and proabortionist.

the value of a hit piece does not depend on who posts it and at present Geller is
one of the best in the field.

as for DHS and UN all you say means nothing, the issue is not all or nothing, the
classic deception in itself, the issue is that many things on that list are spot
on accurate.

and when you look at the Christian dominionist end times army and so forth bunch
and that closet Satanist boykin is in it, I strongly suspect that these are what
the DHS list is targeting.

YOU HAVE TO GET OVER THE IDEA THAT THERE IS ANYONE OR ANY GROUP OR WEB SITE PERFECT
THAT THERE ARE IN FACT ANY GOOD GUYS EXCEPT JESUS HIMSELF.

and if you would research Islamic materials and what they say to their own, you
would see Geller etc. is correct. the only good moslems are the ones who don't
know much about their religion, only platitudes and core beliefs and nothing else
much.

the problem is not finding something wrong with a site so you can ditch it all,
the problem is figuring out who is less evil so you can work with them, and more evil
so you can avoid them, and figure out which category YOU are in so can move from
more evil to less and less evil.

Anonymous said...

Geller is Mossad. I proved this in 3:09 Boykin is an influence operative for Mossad and DHS.

You said:

"and if you would research Islamic materials and what they say to their own, you
would see Geller etc. is correct. the only good moslems are the ones who don't
know much about their religion, only platitudes and core beliefs and nothing else
much. "


HAHAHAHAH!! I was a Christian Zionist. I read it all. Moham got his junk from the Talmud. Islam is just more Babylon Mysteries with a twist of heretical Catholicism.

"and if you would research Talmundic materials and the Protocols of Zion and what they say to their own, you
would see Geller etc. is a Kabbalahist. the only good Mystic Jews are the ones who don't
know much about their religion Kabbalah, only platitudes and core beliefs and nothing else
much. "

NOW SEE THAT EXAMPLE OF how your own words would get ME CALLED A F*&&^$ anti-semitc if I said the same thing about Jews???? BUT YOU Mrs. Christian can say crap like THAT about Muslims in general and get away with it you hypocrite Gnostic witch!!!!

Susanna said...

Dear Cindy, 1:19 P.M.

You are most welcome.

Dr. Monteith also did a video in which he talks about the Reece Committee a branch of the House Un-American Activities Committee which investigated tax exempt foundations suspected of using their tax exempt status to promote communism. This interview was two years before the interview conducted by G. Edward Griffin in 1982. This video by Dr. Monteith is riveting.......as is the Norman Dodd interview of 1982.

Norman Dodd Revealing The Tax Exempt Foundation Agenda in 1980 - Radio Liberty Interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK4fVyUtHSQ

cont...

Susanna said...

cont...

The video mentions a book entitled FOUNDATIONS:THEIR POWER AND INFLUENCE by Rene Wormser which I have in my personal library. Rene Wormser, an attorney who specialized in estate planning, was the counsel for the congressional committee - the Reece Committee - commissioned to investigate the great tax-exempt foundations. You can read it for free here.

Foundations -Their Power and Influence

by Rene A. Wormser

http://www.scribd.com/doc/129462864/Foundations-Their-Power-and-Influence-by-Rene-A-Wormser
______________________________________

Norman Dodd (1899 - 1987) was a banker/bank manager, worked as a financial advisor and served as chief investigator in 1953 for U.S. Congressman B. Carroll Reece Special Committee on Tax Exempt Foundations (commonly referred to as the Reece Committee). He was primarily known for his controversial investigation into tax-exempt foundations


Here is the equally riveting 1982 interview conducted by G. Edward Griffin.


Norman Dodd On Tax Exempt Foundations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYCBfmIcHM

Anonymous said...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/09/07/899643/-Pamela-Geller-Israeli-Secret-Agent

I have to ask, Who is this woman working for? To tell the troops that their soon to be President of the United States is the Antichrist is not a good message to the troops. But wait a minute, let’s remember Geller has repeated called for people to "Support Israel." Geller claims, "The IDF is the most benevolent army in the world... (and) It all about the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews." All the while she calls the President of the United States "the Antichrist." Geller wants to divide and draw Americans into her war on Islam and gain their unconditional support for Israel. And apparently, some seem to have fallen for her rhetoric and are repeating whole sentences and paragraphs of Pamela Geller’s insanity. Geller claims on websites, videos, and in her lectures that she is a "human rights activist." Then she goes off on how Hamas and the Palestinians need to be "crushed," "eradicated", and "annihilated." These are not the words of a human rights activist. Rather, these are the words of her so called "benevolent" Israeli Defense Force and Zionist extremists. And so I have to ask once again, Who does Pamela Geller really work for?

Anonymous said...

http://www.answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/Vol1/5b.html

God loves them ALL Mary. Your blanket racist statement about Muslims is "extreme" as extreme as any statement about Jews. Remember DHS dislikes ALL forms of 'extremism".

Susanna said...

P.S.

Cindy,

At minute 51 of the Dr. Monteith video, he mentions having read Constance Cumbey's book THE HIDDEN DANGERS OF THE RAINBOW.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 7:45

I have read the Koran twice, there is very little Talmudic relevant most of it is
Christian heresies and serious confusion about bible chronology and events who did
what.

And the issue is not whether saying something can get you in trouble, the issue
is IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING TRUE OR NOT?

Pamela Geller is an ATlas Shrugged Ayn Rand worshipper. that makes her no more
Jewish in reality other than bloodline than she is a Christian.

Meanwhile what if she is Mossad? who else better to deal with the Islamic threat?

WHY DON'T YOU STUDY THE SOURCE MATERIAL? AND WHY DON'T YOU STOP SERVING BY HATING
JEWS?

occultism is always at the root of hating Jews. sure some of them are into the occult
and think Kabbalism which thinks God's glory(shekinah) is a separate deity and calls it female
and turns prayer and marriage into a sex cult and many have CONDEMNED kabbalah
in no uncertain terms. I posted a list of that earlier this month.

But whatever right or wrong about Israel, in Israel controlled land a woman can go
to the police about wife beating. in Palestinian aurhority land, she gets nothing.

So to hell with your concerns about Mossad.

And while you are bitching about Mossad, why don't you look at American intelligence
and all its dirt? NO ONE IS CLEAN THERE ARE NO HEROES.

Susanna said...

P.P.S.

Cindy,

Dr. Monteith also mentions around minute 53 that the heads of the tax exempt foundations were involved in the occult.

He expands on this theme in his book BROTHERHOIOD OF DARKNESS.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"God loves them ALL Mary. Your blanket racist statement about Muslims is "extreme" "

God also warns that if they don't repent someday He will bring the hammer down on
all the unbelievers AND BELIEVERS who live like unbelievers. God's love is not
unconditional in the sense this is usually applied, He will eventually reject and
punish and cut off the problem people of all races from the rest. He loves us all
enough to provide the sin offering (Jesus) should any repent. It is unlikely that
most will.

islam is a religion and political ideology it is not a "race." your statement
is bigoted and ignorant.

As for DHS I said I agree with them regarding some categories not all, and hopefully
it is not just one or two fits but several that put you on a watch.

Anonymous said...

"Meanwhile what if she is Mossad? who else better to deal with the Islamic threat?"

So you support the Hegelian dialectic created by Mossad. https://news.siteintelgroup.com/tag/106.html

Hey...uh hey yeah that group ISIS created by Mossad and the CIA...yeah hey can somebody call the Mossad and the CIA in to fix it....uh..sure they recommend a war between Christians and Muslims to fix the issue....okay with you guys? Yes, Christine says it's OK with her.

Anonymous said...

Call Pam and ask her to accept Jesus.

hahahahahahaha, she will spit in your eye.

Anonymous said...

Islam is a religion and so is Judaism.

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JbJD-Ainyk

The Truth About Isis propaganda Cia And Mossad

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUX3kZmp6oE

Smoking gun proof that ISIS is a CIA/MOSSAD/MI6 job???

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

a problem complicating the Mossad issue, is "fortress Israel." put that in a
search engine. The idea is, that if Israel ever makes peace with its neighbors,
then it will let its guard down, and lose if the neighbors' next generation
changes back to hostile.

So Mossad has at time financed Palestinian radicals whether the latter knew
it or not. A yes possibly they have contributed to some extent to ISIS as to
anything else THAT THE CIA HELPED BUILD.

But these forces were in play before Israel existed, go read a history on Islam
read about Shariah even from Islamic sources. and the Salafists and Wahabbis the
Brits decided to back (perhaps because as the CIA said in Afghanistan "crazies
make good fighters" and the Turks were slack in some ways so salafi feeling could
be engaged against them)

EXISTED BEFORE THE BRITS GOT THERE. They merely found and employed them.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Did St. Paul worry about doctrinal purity and getting them to accept Jesus
when he deliberately engaged the fight between the Pharisees and sadducees,
when he cried out that he was on trial about the resurrection, since the
Pharisees accepted that all will eventually be resurrected and the Sadducees
did not and also denied angels and any supernatural except God exists?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Did St. Paul worry about doctrinal purity when he used his Roman citizenship to
avoid a flogging and take his case to Caesar and a chance to preach in Rome?
There are issues that eventually Jesus will put under His feet when He rules which
are, however opposed to the Gospel or neutral towards it, can be put to the Gospel's
use or to survival without making a deadly compromise.

Did the rejection of Christ by the Pharisees make anything correct they had to say
incorrect? Jesus mostly condemned them not for doctrine but for hypocrisy and
attitude many Pharisee doctrines were in fact correct, but they added and twisted.

Remember what Jesus said about being part wrong and part right? "this you should
have done and not left the other undone?"

Cindy said...

Susanna,

"Dr. Monteith also mentions around minute 53 that the heads of the tax exempt foundations were involved in the occult".

Psalm 2 speaks of those who makes plans to "pursue their own vacant and empty greatness"?

It's not only the ones in the occult but some professing Christians find themselves as well trying to advance their own schemes and agendas.

Psalm 2

1
You are wondering: What has provoked the nations to embrace anger and chaos? Why are the people making plans to pursue their own vacant and empty greatness?

2
Leaders of nations stand united; rulers put their heads together, plotting against the Eternal One and His Anointed King, trying to figure out

3
How they can throw off the gentle reign of God’s love, step out from under the restrictions of His claims to advance their own schemes.

4
At first, the Power of heaven laughs at their silliness. The Eternal mocks their ignorant selfishness.

5
But His laughter turns to rage, and He rebukes them. As God displays His righteous anger, they begin to know the meaning of fear. He says,

6
“I am the One who appointed My king who reigns from Zion, My mount of holiness. He is the one in charge.”

You can read the rest of Psalm 2 here.

Anonymous said...

I thought God's favorite people are the Jews although we are not sure who "they" are and if they are a race other than the human race, or if they are orthodox or mystics and if God gave them Israel then what do they have to hire mossad for about anyway? They need satanists to help protect them against some Arabs who got along fine with them until they moved into Palestine with the blessing of Great Briton? What?

I have family members who died in WW2 in Europe fighting NAZIs.

The Jews whomever they are have the right to live any where on the planet, period. SO DO MUSLIMS and even you. It seems however some persons get to start foment wars and then put people who don't like wars on watch lists. Despite Boykin's position Jesus didn't have a gun.

Anonymous said...

Pam Geller and General Vallely on the same board of an organization and all the usual anti Shariah suspects.

http://theamericanreport.org/stop-qatar-now/

Geller's attorney and the man behind the anti shariah movement

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/31/us/31shariah.html

"Yet, for all its fervor, the movement is arguably directed at a problem more imagined than real. Even its leaders concede that American Muslims are not coalescing en masse to advance Islamic law. Instead, they say, Muslims could eventually gain the kind of foothold seen in Europe, where multicultural policies have allowed for what critics contend is an overaccommodation of Islamic law.

“Before the train gets too far down the tracks, it’s time to put up the block,” said Guy Rodgers, the executive director of ACT for America, one of the leading organizations promoting the legislation drafted by Mr. Yerushalmi."

These laws will only hurt regular American's and by then it will be TOO LATE.

and who is the real racist here, Geller's attorney says whites better than blacks?

"But it's not just Muslims who draw Yerushalmi's scorn. In a 2006 essay for SANE entitled On Race: A Tentative Discussion (pdf), Yerushalmi argued that whites are genetically superior to blacks. "Some races perform better in sports, some better in mathematical problem solving, some better in language, some better in Western societies and some better in tribal ones," he wrote."
from:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/david-yerushalmi-sharia-ban-tennessee

Anonymous said...

I am not looking for purity I am looking at a bunch of bigots. I was once blind but now I see. Thank GOD.

Anonymous said...

http://pamelageller.com/2013/07/betrayed.html/

Geller promoting General Paul Vallely's book on her website.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 9:14 and 9:18

since when is opposition to islam which is a political system disguised as a religion
bigotry it is not a race.

Given than Gen. Vallely has promoted himself as one who sees well the dangers of
jihad, can you expect anything else? Geller herself being a Rand follower might
even be a closet satanist herself. EVERYBODY's been fooled by Vallely and Co.

Part of the problem is like the sense of certainty and security you have when you
have God and His work calculated out as a set of laws of action and reaction you
can engage, society as a rigid structure, everything as a machine that you can
either manage, or see to it you are in the right situation relating to it.

This is part of the technocratic mentality side of the NEw Age, this is the danger
of scholastic rationalism that took over the Roman Catholic Church in the early
Middle Ages, this is a major part of the whole Pentecostal revival charismatic
and new apostolic scene.

Anonymous said...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/us/18berman.html

"In 2004, Mr. Berman published “Law and Revolution II: The Impact of the Protestant Reformation on the Western Legal Tradition.” This explored how the 16th-century German Reformation and the 17th-century English Revolution gave birth to a new civil order apart from religion. Soon, marriage certificates came from civil agencies, and church law governed only churches.

Mr. Berman often left the ivory tower. In 2005, he joined the religious broadcaster Pat Robertson in writing a brief to defend the Ten Commandments monument on the grounds of the Texas Capitol. He called the commandments a foundation of Texas law, and noted that the Declaration of Independence invoked God."

A woman once told me that Berman's writings were communist in nature.

So my question is this: If a court decided that religious law (anti shariah bill) could not be used in court then how can one exercise their constitutional rights in any court in a state with an an shariah bill (being as constitutional law is based on Biblical law according to a court case in TX staring Pat Robertson?)

Naturally the Constitution is NOT based on Biblical law at all example (and is only slightly based on the Mayflower Compact)

Thou shall have no other gods before me

vs

Freedom of any religion


Again Geller is trouble and simply saying she is just 'not so pure' is bogus.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I think it was Vallely's friend Boykin who wrote a book I got a kindle
copy of, which went out of its way to paint Kurds as baaad. Interesting.
Since they (except for the ones devoted seriously to islam and occasionally
produce jihadis) are devoted to a multiethnic, multireligious secular
society as the ideal and are the safest Islamic group to convert out of
islam in and become Christian. They have the highest percentage of Christians
among them, mostly by conversion and being raised in a convert family, of
all the ethnic groups around them. (excepting obviously the Assyrian and
Armenian.) One of their leaders in the 1930s during an uprising declared
himself Christian, helped shape some of the values that typify modern
Kurdish resistance and goals of Kurdistan as a future republic, and did not
have any major problem, didn't lose status and didn't get killed.

If you are so worried about bigotry, why don't you look at the law in Koran
AND in Shariah (which often goes beyond the Koran or contradicts it at times)
that anyone who converts from Islam, though it is not to paganism but to a
"religion of the book" is to be killed?

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"So my question is this: If a court decided that religious law (anti shariah bill) could not be used in court then how can one exercise their constitutional rights in any court in a state with an an shariah bill (being as constitutional law is based on Biblical law according to a court case in TX staring Pat Robertson?)"

Because an anti shariah law is against Islamic law, not against Christian laws
that manage to get into the penal or civil code. duh!


Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Geller is trouble because she is a Randian libertarian, which by definition
is NOT consistent with any version of Biblical law. "Thou shalt have no
other gods before Me" is consistent with rejecting Islam, which gives lip
service to the God of Abraham, but does not claim a Jewish identity (as
per Romans chapter 11 they should in an actual Christian based legal system
that prioritizes Christianity be under protection) and is aggressive against
Christianity and defines "allah" in terms and alleged statements that are
inconsistent with YHWH.

Anonymous said...

The real target of the law goes unnamed. “This [bill] doesn’t say ‘Sharia law,’”

http://www.thenation.com/article/true-story-sharia-american-courts/

I think the real target is the Constitution.

http://www.ispu.org/pdfs/ISPU_Sharia.Policy_613-1.pdf

page 7

"When religious freedom is limited for one group, it necessarily affects religious freedom for all groups. Although anti-Sharia measures name Sharia specifically, if allowed to stand, they can limit the freedoms of Christians, Jews, and other faith groups in the United States who turn to religious arbitration as the preferred method of dispute resolution. "

Anonymous said...

I have proved that I know more about this than you MCE. The whole human race is targeted, we are pawns in the game.

Anonymous said...

You can hit an Arab free; they’re free enemies, free villains—where you couldn’t do it to a Jew or you can’t do it to a black anymore.
         —Sam Keen, author of Faces of the Enemy


http://www.thenation.com/article/how-media-created-muslim-monster-myth/

Anonymous said...

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2010/10/13/gellers-wealth-from-corruption-fraud-mayve-facilitated-cop-killing/

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

religious freedom is not automatically limited for all groups unless the law
is so phrased as to allow that.

the law ALREADY limits religious actions that are contrary to state and federal
law, when the legal conflict is such that the state has a legitimate interest
the safety of the people etc. A good example would be killing someone for
conversion to Christianity, or forcing a dress code in public beyond basic
modesty already in laws.

The Constitution only forbids the federal govt. creating an established religion,
that is, some denomination getting tax funding and any requirement you have to
be a member in order to hold office or vote or whatever. It does not prohibit
states from doing this, and some did do this continued from their colonial days
into the 1800s.

federal or state money going to schools used to include money going to schools
run by churches, no one thought anything of it, then the RC schools were getting
such funds so the protestants wanting them out of the country (not possible) but
at least defund them (possible) made a stink about this violating the establishment
clause and it stopped, not just federal but state and local.

Sam Keen is irrelevant. Sure, this is true, and true in Viet Nam and anywhere you
have an obvious ethnic difference between fighting forces, and that is a problem
of the American people not of opposition to jihadi or any other islam.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Geller is a useful tool. Some tools are best got rid of when done being useful.
of course I don't mean murder, but if there is some scandal or legal issue that
could shut her antichristian Randian scene down then use it. after the Islamic
threat is gone.

Meanwhile, prohibition of shariah law is about saying no you don't get to argue
that you can sell your children either into an underage prepubescent marriage or
to outright prostitution or kill them if they are inconvenient or throw acid
in your wife's face or kill your family members who dare to decide they want to
choose their own spouses or reject the one you picked for them, or kill those who
convert to Christianity you don't get to do what is permitted or even ordered
(depending on which school of shariah is involved) simply because you are moslem,
you are not living in a shariah run land. you are under our laws.

as for arranged marriage in OT, the Torah depicts the father more as a bargaining
agent the new wife is described as being made happy hardly the effect of a forced
marriage.

Cindy said...

"A new challenge game is going viral. It’s about connecting with a dead spirit from Mexico named Charlie."

Read more about "The Dark Realm of the Occult here".

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"I note the Times profile reveals that Geller’s personal attorney is David Yerushalmi, who incorporated the non-profit entity under which she and Robert Spencer produce their blogs. This in turn allows David Horowitz to plow funds into their enterprise that have been given on a tax-deductible basis. Yerushalmi is also representing her in a $10 million defamation lawsuit brought by the family of Rifqa Bary, a teenage girl torn from her Muslim-American family by Christian evangelicals who inveigled her into converting to Christianity and running away from their home while still a minor."

In other words, a convert to Christianity is being hunted by her family (who
will probably kill her if they get her back, regardless of her age now and are
merely exploiting legal details) and their lawsuit is part of an article you a
supposed Christian consider worth posting.

As for the criminal enterprise, there can't be that many people committing felonies
or ducking bankruptcy and divorce issues with cars bought with fake ID to produce
that much money. The vast majority of the purchases must have been with real ID

the poster of this link http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2010/10/13/gellers-wealth-from-corruption-fraud-mayve-facilitated-cop-killing/ is being a hypocrite. The
Jewish source who whines about an issue centuries ago should consider that ISIS
would demand he and his children convert or die. that convert ended up a priest, so
had plenty of time to reconsider and obviously preferred Christianity.

you can't compare this to the moslem girl, who was likely a runaway to save her life.

I repeat TO SAVE HER LIFE. her family would have murdered her, and would have
a defense under Shariah and be DECLARED INNOCENT OF MURDER THAT IS OF UNLAWFUL
KILLING IF TRIED IN A FUTURE HYPOTHETICAL AMERICAN COURT THAT ALLOWS SHARIAH LAW
AS A DEFENSE.

they would be proven guilty, admit guilt, and be EXONERATED AS HAVING DONE A
JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE.

Anonymous said...

" the law ALREADY limits religious actions "

Which is why we never need anti shariah bills and attorneys like Geller's know this. That means they are up to trouble causing shenanigans.

"Yet, for all its fervor, the movement is arguably directed at a problem more imagined than real. Even its leaders concede that American Muslims are not coalescing en masse to advance Islamic law. Instead, they say, Muslims could eventually gain the kind of foothold seen in Europe, where multicultural policies have allowed for what critics contend is an overaccommodation of Islamic law."

They know that Shariah is not a threat. So what is Mossad up to with these laws? I was there when they said do not let the words "shariah Law, Islam or Muslims be included in these bills"

The history of hate crimes bills promoted by the ADL are reason to wonder what is really up with these anti shariah bills. especially considering that they give lip service to calling these anti shariah groups hate groups, while turning around and working closely with the same people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ogjcSTcRo0

Anonymous said...

You can't argue that American laws already protect people from shariah crimes and then argue that we should ban "religious laws from being utilized in court" which is what these bills really say. It could be in effect a complete transformation of our legal system in the near future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5B-0dzDzkw

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Shariah law IS a threat because it IS being worked on to be accepted in American
courts and HAS BEEN accepted in some courts. It is the plan of stealth jihad
to get its terms written into laws either incrementally or get it as a bloc
category of law made to be held binding on Islamic citizens of the secular state.
Ultimately the goal is to become a big enough power bloc they can change the
Constitution and make the USA an Islamic nation. And I don't have geller as the
source.

the bills however will include at this time rules that out of shariah. it will be
an incremental thing, getting people used to stuff.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"You can't argue that American laws already protect people from shariah crimes and then argue that we should ban "religious laws from being utilized in court" which is what these bills really say."

yes you can, because without this a muslim can kill his daughter for choosing her
own mate, marrying a non muslim or any family member for becoming Christian or even
visiting a church, and if "religious laws" are allowed as a defense he can stand
before the judge, tell him or her that he killed the person and why invoke shariah
and be declared "not guilty" because under shariah law he is allowed or even
ordered to do this.

Anonymous said...

10:27 Complete Bull Shit please do tell me which law in California allows a man to murder his daughter.

"Yet, for all its fervor, the movement is arguably directed at a problem more imagined than real. Even its leaders concede that American Muslims are not coalescing en masse to advance Islamic law. Instead, they say, Muslims could eventually gain the kind of foothold seen in Europe, where multicultural policies have allowed for what critics contend is an overaccommodation of Islamic law."

Their leaders said this and you foolishly argue against the people perpetrating these laws. You have an agenda.

Anonymous said...

Let's talk about stealth Mossad.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I DON'T KNOW OR CARE ANYTHIGN ABOUT THE CENTER FOR SECURITY POLICY. get their
book check the sources cited and read the cases and judge for yourself.
neither do I know or care anything about the dubiously named web site, but this
is a real good brief overview.

""Shariah Law and American Courts: An Assessment of State Appellate Court Cases,” published by the Center for Security Policy, is one of the most comprehensive studies I have ever seen. It covers more than 600 pages of material. The following summary statement is shocking:
""Our findings suggest that Shariah law has entered into state court decisions, in conflict with the Constitution and state public policy. Some commentators have said there are no more than one or two cases of Shariah law in U.S. state court cases; yet we found 50 significant cases just from the small sample of appellate published cases. Others state with certainty that state court judges will always reject any foreign law, including Shariah law, when it conflicts with the Constitution or state public policy; yet we found 15 Trial Court cases, and 12 Appellate Court cases, where Shariah was found to be applicable in the case at bar. The facts are the facts: some judges are making decisions deferring to Shariah law even when those decisions conflict with Constitutional protections. This is a serious issue and should be a subject of public debate and engagement by policymakers."

[my capitalization to get your attention]
ONCE THESE TYPES OF DECISIONS MADE IN AMERICAN COURTS BECOME PART OF PUBLISHED LAW
THEY CAN BE USED AS PRECEDENT LAW FOR FUTURE CASES. ANYONE ENTERING AN AMERICAN
COURT WILL BE BOUND BY DECISIONS MADE BY COURTS THAT APPEAL TO THESE CASES.

Law must be based on some transcendental standard. In the past, American law was a blending of biblical and natural law. The Supreme Court cases regarding polygamy demonstrate this fact. But with our new pluralistic attitudes, everything is up for grabs. And because we are trying to accommodate Islam so radicals won’t blow us up, Sharia law is becoming accepted as one legitimate law among many.

This does not mean that Sharia law is the only law the courts are using. International law is the new legal kid on the block. Of course, this would include Sharia. Consider Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s judicial philosophy:


Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is acknowledging the growing effect of international law on Supreme Court decisions, particularly in the areas of the death penalty, race admissions and gay sex: “Our island or lone ranger mentality is beginning to change,” Ginsburg said during a speech to the American Constitution Society, a liberal lawyers group holding its first convention. Justices “are becoming more open to comparative and international law perspectives,” said Ginsburg, who has supported a more global view of judicial decision making. Ginsburg cited an international treaty in her vote . . . to uphold the use of race in college admissions.

What makes today’s use of international law attractive to so many judges? Referencing international law gives the appearance of judicial legitimacy. It’s a poor judge’s version of “higher law” which in reality is nothing more than

“horizontal law.” One nation appealing to the judicial decisions of another nation is little different from Hugh Hefner asking Larry Flynt what he thinks about pornography.

An Emory University Law School publication noted that the Malak v. Malak case, which involved a Lebanese court decision, was cited as precedent in other Muslim child custody cases."

Read more at http://godfatherpolitics.com/2554/sharia-law-deciding-american-court-cases/#SiWDeZkAdm0VFGmx.99


Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"10:27 Complete Bull Shit please do tell me which law in California allows a man to murder his daughter. "

none of course AS YET. but if shariah becomes an accepted alternative legal system
which is mandated in state or even federal law as to be held as applicable, rather
than conflicting American laws, when a muslim is being tried for an action that is
legal in shariah,

then this is what will happen. THINK AHEAD. you can do this when confronted with
a new age globalist threat but you don't see it when from something else.

islam in theory is also against nation states of any kind. there is to be one
world government the caliphate and one law shariah, whose differences in the four
sunni and one (?) shia form are not great enough to prefer one to another except
that one mandates female genital mutilation, two others merely recommend it and one
says nothing one way or another.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

another problem is the standard of evidence in shariah, while the Koran only
requires four eyewitnesses to get a conviction in the case of a woman accused
of adultery, shariah mandates this for ALL crimes. a woman's testimony is only
half of a man's.

that is why typically a rape victim is punished, because her complaint is her
confession of her crime of having sex, and the defense, that she is forced, has
no witnesses to prove this and the perpetrator is unlikely to confess unless
the interrogators are smart enough to torture him.

this makes all the crimes possible easy and non prosecutable and if there is only
one or two or three witnesses its a no go and they are punished for false
accusation. ISLAMIC LAW IS RIGGED TO ALLOW ALL EVIL .

by contrast, while t wo or three witnesses (no specification on age or sex) in OT
Law to get a death penalty there is no certain limit like this regarding a crime
if the penalty to be applied is less. the law that says one shall not testify against
someone is shortly after followed by the proviso that it takes two or three to testify
that he die.
in the case of rape, the situation described is obviously without anyone's word
but the victim, it having happened where there was none to help her, so obviously
this limit about witnesses would not apply.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy5H0uunC2qMk0iOF4SHKUw

scroll down for several video categories and collections Acts17Apologetics
youtube channel

Anonymous said...

You quote Gaffney from Team B 11??? Boykin's friends?

http://theunitedwest.org/projects/team-b-ii-authors/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXHtP9I1ElY

Team B II members just happened to get rare footage inside the TX terrorist attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23uElG6UJBU


Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

you can expect Boykin's friends to be spot on a lot of the time. the only
way his game can work is if they are spot on most of the time. The problem
is how he will twist the solutions to the problem.

Anonymous said...

The only threat to America is mass immigration that happens to fast for people to assimilate coupled with internal influence operations and false flags that try and foment division and hate. I think they call it multiculturalism in Europe and it's a New World Order specialty. Muslims just want to be left alone. Most of the Muslims who do jihad lately have been "Christian Converts" another planned tactic I am sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VXBP-hQHis

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D5LmGVxwtI

Boykin's friends

vs

http://scholarlycommons.law.wlu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1362&context=crsj

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Sq7ZBbDGo

I think the case set a precedent for the government to be able to use secret evidence against "terrorists" and in light of the book "Extreme Prejudice" and their own CIA agent being accused of terrorism for doing her job, that book and story combine with this HLF, well, goodbye constitution.... so don't tell me Shariah is the problem, it's NOT.

Anonymous said...

http://freedomtogive.com/holy-land-five-case/

Maybe Anti Shariah means more death for Palestinians.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"The only threat to America is mass immigration that happens to fast for people to assimilate"

How about no intention to assimiliate? how about a plan almost 100 years old to
do mass immigration, breed like rabbits, convert as many as possible, and become
a power bloc in the respective countries that can legislate Shariah in?

" coupled with internal influence operations and false flags that try and foment division and hate."

there's plenty without that, and even those that do happen how many are in fact
efforts by persons engaged in taqiyya, allowed deception even to doing unislamic
things while on jihad that aid the Islamic world conquest cause?

Those events, false or not, have drawn admiration and imitation. Pew Pole results
show that a sizable percentage of moslems view jihadis as heroes.

" I think they call it multiculturalism in Europe and it's a New World Order specialty. Muslims just want to be left alone. Most of the Muslims who do jihad lately have been "Christian Converts" another planned tactic I am sure."

converts allegedly from Christianity defined as not heavily devoted to another
religion, Christian parentage and maybe attending a hogwash charismatic or else
a liberal church now and then, nothing to inspire one with demand for total dedication to give life meaning (a fleshly concern anyway). A dislike of the
experienced downside of modern culture (which is condemned by real Christianity
also) plays a role.

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHs-1qmLLfo

Christian Zionism and Islamophobia


Gosh golly gee who wants a Christians vs Muslim war?

Susanna said...

Cindy 9:00 P.M.

Re:Psalm 2 speaks of those who makes plans to "pursue their own vacant and empty greatness"?

Indeed it does....and there is also Psalm 127:1...

"Unless the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it. Unless the Lord keep the city, he watcheth in vain that keepeth it."

Susanna said...

Cindy 10:15 P.M.

In May of this year, the following warning was posted at Breitbart about the occult "Charlie Charlie" game which is a simplified version of the Ouija board.

Exorcist Warns that ‘the Charlie Challenge’ Invites Demonic Activity
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/05/28/exorcist-warns-that-the-charlie-challenge-invites-demonic-activity/

I personally own two of Father Fortea's books. He knows what he is talking about!

BVS said...

Dr. Stanley Monteith was a whack job.

At one time he was a member of Pat Robertson's (whack job) Christian Coalition (a bunch of whack jobs) and the John Birch Society (another bunch of whack jobs).

He is hailed as hero by a lot of questionable people including Alex Jones (big whack job).

I feel it is necessary to warn some readers as he is often portrayed as a hero here as well. For a few reasons:

He has read Constance's book(s) and been a guest on her show.

He is a supporter of Catholics.

If you support Constance and have read her books, you are treated like royalty around here.

If you are a supporter of catholic doctrine, you are treated very warmly around here.

Do your own research and see for yourself. I like good conspiracy theories as much as the next person but, this guy is SO FAR out there on a lot of things it's actually funny.

So, for those of you who don't know much about him, don't be so easily impressed with posts by the usual suspects that cite his books or articles.

He would not be so exalted around here if not for the reasons mentioned above.

ThePopeNoMonster said...

BVS,

Since this blog is made possible by Constance's books and fits the themes of said books, commenters who have read those books are better able to participate in discussions here. If they support those books, then they obviously agree with Constance's position on topics on this blog. It sort of makes sense that those people are "treated like royalty" because Constance can have a reasonable dialogue with those people.

You claim people are treated warmly if they are supporters of Catholic doctrine when in actuality people are treated warmly based on how they treat others. If you don't want people to be jerks to you, then don't be a jerk. This is called the Golden Rule. If you don't understand how the Golden Rule works, then you are not the Christian you think you are. The Golden Rule is embraced by all Christian denominations, or at least it should, including the Catholic church.

Maybe you need to go back to the Bible (assuming you are some type of Christian) and learn to grow up in your faith as the Apostle Paul suggests. The Apostle Paul also describes the fruits of the Holy Spirit. This seems like Christian 101. A tree is known for the fruit it bears. So far, the fruit coming from you is the kind that people would spit out.

Cindy said...

Reply to 9:28

"when in actuality people are treated warmly based on how they treat others."

I agree!


Yes, when some people plant injustice(including words or deeds) they harvest trouble, and this weapon (bullying anger) sputters into nothing.

Cindy said...

Susanna,

"Unless the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it. Unless the Lord keep the city, he watcheth in vain that keepeth it."

Yes--- Many have deceived themselves--- thinking they can cheat, mock, and make a fool of God. People only harvest what they plant, in other words they reap what they sow.

Susanna said...

Cindy, 10:53 A.M.

Well said.

By the way, you might also be interested in the following which was produced just about a month before Dr. Monteith passed away.

DR. STAN MONTEITH - NEW AGE UPDATE with CONSTANCE CUMBEY - AUGUST 29, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQa-_h4qpUw

Cindy said...

Susanna,

I'll be sure to watch it.

Cindy said...

Susanna,

I sent "DR. STAN MONTEITH - NEW AGE UPDATE with CONSTANCE CUMBEY - AUGUST 29, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQa-_h4qpUw"


to all my email contacts. Thanks again.

Anonymous said...

http://www.fairobserver.com/region/middle_east_north_africa/iran-is-not-the-threat-31075/

Anonymous said...

http://www.parliamentofreligions.org/


Going at it with fervor..............

Anonymous said...

http://soluschristusministries.publishpath.com/

Constance, how about a guest that's a former satanist? Not sure who, you decide that.

Cindy said...

Question--- which search engines do you all use to do your research on the internet?

In the interview "DR. STAN MONTEITH - NEW AGE UPDATE with CONSTANCE CUMBEY - AUGUST 29, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQa-_h4qpUw"
which was an excellent interview,

Constance mentioned the deep web--- so I was wondering if there are better search engines than Google.

I did find this site, Deep Web Search Engines.

Anonymous said...

http://lebanize.blogspot.com/

Gabriel was an Israeli TV reporter. Sh has been in the Clarion films linked to the Israeli government. She goes church to church collecting data on 'patriots' and fundraising. She often speaks at Heritage Foundation events (linked to NAFTA, Tavistock and a UNESCO ambassador to the US State Department--they scrubbed the link).

Her story is that her parents told her the reason they were suffering is because the "Arabs hated Christians" while she never mentions Israeli crimes against Lebanon. I once asked a pastor about how many phone calls he got from the local ADL protesting her visit to his church. Because she is listed as a hate group by them (despite the fact that the ADL board members work with ACT) and she often claims she is threatened and lives in fear, the pastor said NONE, nada, nill. Not one call from the local Muslim Brotherhood either. Her address was once printed in the paper. Not one reaction to this. She is a master at what she does. her specialty is schmoozing the old people.

Anonymous said...

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwotavistockbestkeptsecret.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Gabriel

Heritage defines the 'conservative' conversation. They pump out videos and propaganda telling conservatives how to think, what to say and they literally define the debate. That's what think tanks do. This controls the conversation and is a key component of a mind war. Sorry you and your friends don't like independent thinkers.

Anonymous said...

http://newsok.com/brigitte-gabriels-life-book-show-her-credentials/article/3670035

Haroon Moghul (Your Views, April 21) questioned Brigitte Gabriel's authority to speak on radical Islam due to her absence of scholarly publication or academic credentials. If Moghul would read “Because They Hate” by Gabriel, he'd know her Muslim knowledge is from personal experience as a Christian in Lebanon during the Muslim forced takeover, fearing for her life and her aging parents' while hiding in a backyard hole in the ground. Does she not have reasonable credentials?

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul E. Vallely is quoted as saying, “‘Because They Hate' should be read by all to understand radical Islam.” R. James Woolsey, director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 1993 to 1995, described “Because They Hate” as “A compelling and captivating personal story with a powerful lesson about threats to freedom in our time.”

Gabriel's personal story is happiness while growing up with economically successful parents until experiencing fear of radical Muslims as they took over Lebanon by might. She witnessed the deaths of people whose only crime was being a Christian. No scholarly publications or academic credentials? Seriously? “Because They Hate” shows the knowledge, accuracy and critical ability of the writer, the very definition of “scholarly.”

Are there better academic credentials than personal experience? “Because They Hate” is an eye-opener that every American should read to better understand who our true enemies are and the need to guard against their threats and actions.

Ott Johnson, Stillwater

Anonymous said...

I read it. I don't recommend it. However the CIA and Gen Paul Vallely and Mary Christine Erickson do.

Anonymous said...

"As usual, people who had lived peacefully beside the Christians
for years and years turned on them. "

Should read "When Zionists took over Israel, people who had lived peacefully beside the each other for years and years turned on the supporters of Zionism."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIT9sLz29iQ

RayB said...

What do you think about this little trick to fool the flock? They've been using this type of smoke and mirrors illusions for hundreds of years. Lately, it seems they have stepped this "magic" up a little ... remember the pope and his "half miracle" when the blood in the vile partially liquified?

Also, this has a New Agey-Occult feel to the entire thing (in my opinion) ... see what you think:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/holy-miracle-watch-virgin-marys-6113110

Anonymous said...

Claire Lopez, Brigitte Gabriel, (Team B II basically), Heritage Foundation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

"According to intelligence reports" (like the CIA and Mossad, which we all trust here implicitly) radical Islamists make up x amount of the population and the peaceful people are irrelevant. That's an outrageous statement. But she gets applause.

BG's argument is based on the false idea that 911 was caused by Muslims. If the truth about 911 was mainstream (and the evidence suggests that about half of the public knows this was a psychological operation) then she would have to retire. The whole idea crumbles if we are brave enough to look at the Platonian Nobel lies and myths that keep the elites in power. Once people realize the mind wars are created by false flags, then this looks a lot like sophisticated propaganda. Given the history of Nazi Germany and Gobbels, I am NOT holding my breath. AND I am going shopping, having coffee, getting my nails done and making small talk with my neighbors because like the Bible taught me, the people don't want to know.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

RayB

I think the pope and the current keepers of this artifact are deceived. A little
research on this shows that the blood liquification miracle is almost nonexistent
outside of a geographic region that that town is in. An alchemic (early chemistry
stumbled on while trying to make gold in the process synthesized gems and other
stuff and discovered some elements) trick could make blood or something similar
that liquefied when shook. This was apparently used to make a fake miracle to get
tourist (pilgrim) trade in town, and taken to other towns whose clergy were in
communication with each other.

That said, there are other miracles that are far less dubious. For instance, at
the Orthodox ceremony commemorating the Baptism of Christ, the Jordan river flows
backwards for a while at that location.

RC brought a lot of miraculous relics into disrepute by the presence of fraud,
and of duplicate (ergo most or all of them fraud) skulls, too many bones, etc.
of saints. St. John the Baptist for one must have been a most unusual looking
fellow, who took a lot of effort to decapitate, having had at least four heads
if all relics are real. The real head is likely in Iraq.

St. Elisha's bones brought a dead man back to life, so obviously the counterfeit
phenomena are mimicking a real phenomenon. 2 Kings 13:21 (4 Kingdoms 13:21 LXX).

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

the error you pro muslim writers here are making, is to assume that just because
something can be and is being exploited means it is wholly false and created.
And when you have been terrorized and are either looking to warn or are looking
for shelter, its any port in a storm. Most people would know nothing about Vallely's
connections, I had long forgotten his name if it ever meant anything to me at all,
my focus having been on Aquino himself in those days. Boykin and the rest I never
heard of or cared about. It is only in a context that these shark fins breaking
the surface of the water are recognizable as such.

yes the 9-11 pilots were muslim, and the relationship with Bush, Cheney, Halliburton
and the Bin Laden family is part of the reason to believe 9-11 was an inside job,
which facilitated a lot of evil. Deliberate aiding of jihadi interests in order to
profit off them, while you think you are in a safe zone that can never be affected,
does not prove you created them in the first place. These people were looking for
any advantage, and the CIA help to their kind in Afghanistan was a case of any
port in a storm from their perspective.

Constance has been criticized for being on The Micro Effect and the typical people
there and on News With Views (though a few are pretty good) are such that if I
didn't know about her work already, the fact she is listed with them would make
me not bother to read her work unless bored and curious, and then I'd change my
mind about her, but not the rest of them, case by case assessment.

Mass movements (as these category "conservative" are or want to be) always consist
of very odd bedfellows.

While the New Age talks about us being gods in a blurry blissed out (and usable
as psychically influenceable or even as channels or jump points by spirits and
aggressive focused telepaths), the Satanist and related crew think of godhood in
a more aggressive and focused way. And are often in conflict with each other, as
individuals or groups, in a survival of the fittest and attempted supremacy mode.
The latter are tools, politically and paranormally of the latter.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"Heritage defines the 'conservative' conversation. They pump out videos and propaganda telling conservatives how to think, what to say and they literally define the debate. That's what think tanks do. This controls the conversation and is a key component of a mind war. Sorry you and your friends don't like independent thinkers. "

I agree, with this statement, but not necessarily anything you are concluding
from it if you are one of the other anons.

Heritage Foundation I understand was part of what wrecked Russia, after the fall
of communism it pushed an instant transition to entrepreneurial unregulated
capitalism, in a culture with no background (incl. the tsarist time) for this sort
of thing. The only reason people didn't freeze to death in winter, was because
the housing they had, however poor, wasn't owned by someone who could kick them
out when they couldn't pay rent. People who used to get meat after standing in line
for hours found there was no meat to be had, because it wasn't profitable to bring
it there. Russia was being looted of its resources until Putin stepped in. This
is why he is so popular.

As for Israeli crimes in Lebanon, that was not against Christians (except for those
incidentally for some ethnic idolatry identifying with and working alongside the
muslim radicals some such are in Hamas or Hezbollah I think) but against muslims
who had been making a lot of trouble, AND WAS SO EXCESSIVE IN THE CASE OF THE
CAMPS THAT SHARON RAIDED, WHEN "CHRISTIAN" FALANGISTS WENT IN AND RAPED AND
MASSACRED THAT HE WAS DISCIPLINED FOR THIS. A little detail I stumbled on last year.

There would not be such hatred of Israel if it weren't for Islamic imperialism and
sense of Islamic ownership per se of everything especially where they already are
entrenched. "Palestine" was never a nation state, it was Jordanian property that
Israel took, and "Palestine" was always a crossroads of empires changing hands over
the millennia. Nothing special, borders change, conquerors come and go in the world
but.....islam conquered it so it is holy land and suddenly the Dome of the Rock
is super holy when it had no such background in past centuries, just one more semi
holy place not on a par with Mecca.

Anonymous said...


I didn't know people could fly CGI planes. Planes wings are light. They can not penetrate steel buildings. Jet fuel can't burn for months nor can it melt steel.

September Clues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORu-68SHpE

Solving 911 ends the war
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbh_Z6lU4QU&feature=youtu.be

More Nobel Lies include

Sandy Hook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD0z275nQnM

Oklahoma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpNIMSDwvOw

The Titanic (the Olympic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOFBIEX2dVM

JFK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSakrYOpJ5s

and on and on and on

Matthew 10:26

26"Therefore do not fear them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. 27"What I tell you in the darkness, speak in the light; and what you hear whispered in your ear, proclaim upon the housetops.

Sure, people can be put in jail, made fun of, ridiculed, insulted, marginalized, beaten, starved, murdered, threatened, intimidated and silenced and the internet can be brought under control. That won't hide the truth for very long and it won't delay God's judgement. All things work for good.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

anon 2:13

I saw the second plane hit live on TV and by email know of someone who was
one of many that saw the planes hit. That doesn't mean that some force
multiplier wasn't in play also.

The either/or mistake saves a lot of players from exposure.

Anonymous said...


Bush Addresses the U.N. - tells the world no 911 discussions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K5M0xtxQVQ

Bush Accidentally Admits Real Iraq War Plan

Bush: "Chaos is the greatest ally."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soc7S-pQZ6M

Rumsfeld slips up and admits flight 93 shot down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNuosBnlw5s

Anonymous said...

We can all see the planes on TV. That's how CGI works and in September Clues a CGI expert shows you how we saw them in glaring fine detail but I don't know anyone who can stomach the painful feelings and the psycho ops people now this, therefore I think we will live with these lies until Jesus comes. This was with the full cooperation of the media channels and only the top producers went on air to describe it, this allowed the lower employees to not be involved.

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdvZavctiDo

The Gobbels Experiment (hero of Aquino, no doubt about that)

Narrated by Kenneth Branagh. "Arguably the most gifted of Hitler's henchmen, Joseph "Goebbels was an enigmatic genius whose successful manipulation of mass political opinion was unprecedented. His rise to power, and that of the Nazi Party itself, will forever stand as one of history's most terrifying examples of the reach of propaganda, a tool with which Goebbels's name is virtually synonymous. In their fascinating documentary, the filmmakers provide a rare and chilling glimpse into a brilliant but toxic mind. Rejecting commentary, they allow Goebbels to speak for himself (in the voice of Kenneth Branagh), via the extensive diaries that he kept from 1924 to1945. Rare clips from German film and television archives illustrate the readings. At a time when much of our news and entertainment media is controlled by a handful of corporations, The Goebbels Experiment is a cautionary reminder that equal access to the machinery of ideas may be society's most critical goal." - Jeannette Catsoulis, The New York Times"


The question is this: Are we under Nazi media control and mind wars that have sought a level even higher than Gobbels could ever, ever dream of?

Susanna said...

Marko,

I thought you might be interested in checking out the following:


Russian Bombers Flew Within 40 Miles of N. California Coast

Tu-95 Bear bombers intercepted off Mendocino on day Putin calls Obama

July 22, 2015

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russian-bombers-flew-within-40-miles-of-n-california-coast/

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

that doesn't explain individuals who saw it happen. and the immediate explosions
on impact. That doesn't mean the planes alone did it.

The either/or mistake keeps you in the dark, very few things are either/or.

Meanwhile, guess who first suggested that no planes were involved at all?
(seemingly as a joke against the truthers, that maybe they will suggest this next
but apparently some took him up on it).

The whole truth movement was hijacked by people fighting over HOW and taking the
focus off WHO except where it drifted onto Mossad. Look right at home for WHO
(other than actual pilots) and yeah, I think a missile hit the Pentagon, maybe
missed having fired at the plane that didn't make it or two missiles one hit the
plane another hit the Pentagon.

The MOTIVE was a mix, the usual perfect storm of combined interests, including
destruction of records especially those in building 7.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAAztWC5sT8 9/11 False Flag Conspiracy - Finally Solved (Names, Connections, Motives)

Susanna said...

P.S. Marko,

When certain U.S. NGO front organizations can't cut it with the Russian government, and are classed as "undesirables," then Houston, we have a problem.

Under Kremlin pressure, 'undesirable' U.S. charity pulls out of Russia

http://news.yahoo.com/under-kremlin-pressure-undesirable-u-charity-pulls-russia-143738019.html
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Gee. I wonder if THEY listened to the Norman Dodd interviews???

Susanna said...

P.P.S.

The "big reveal" here is that the Soros Foundation was on the list. I wonder if Soros was messing with the ruble???

Susanna said...

Did a little snooping around and......sho 'nuff......Soros is suspected of messing with the ruble.

George Soros Is Shorting Ruble? A Lesson For Today’s Currency Crises: Black Wednesday 1992 – When Intervention Failed

by IWB · December 16, 2014

http://investmentwatchblog.com/george-soros-is-shorting-ruble-a-lesson-for-todays-currency-crises-black-wednesday-1992-when-intervention-failed/

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.oilempire.us/no-plane-timeline.html

Meanwhile I'm trying to find the video where Rumsfeld mocking the truthers
suggesting they will next claim that no planes hit the WTC

Susanna said...

This is unbelievable!!! I thought Soros was the communist!!!!

Communists want Soros Foundation branded ‘undesirable’ group

Published time: 4 Jun, 2015 11:31Edited time: 4 Jun, 2015

Two senior lawmakers from the Communist Party caucus have asked Russian prosecutors to use the recently introduced law on “undesirable” foreign groups against George Soros’s Open Society organization.

“The anti-Russian activities of Soros’s foundation must be recognized as undesirable before they assume the destructive forms that we could observe in Ukraine, Georgia and other countries,” MPs Valery Rashkin and Sergey Obukhov said, appealing to the Prosecutor General.

The Communist leaders claimed that the Open Society NGO had conducted “persistent anti-Russian activities for decades and that it happened both in Russia and in other countries. They said that the group was allegedly promoting hatred against Russians in Ukraine and also launched some “proxy subversive operations” in the Russian Federation.

In particular, the two MPs blamed George Soros’s NGO for the destruction of the Russian education system, manifested in the much-criticized system of single state exams for schoolchildren ( Russian version of "common core???") as well as underfinancing of schools and institutes.

The Law on Undesirable Foreign Groups that came into force earlier this week charges the Prosecutor General’s Office together with the Foreign Ministry with the task of creating an official list of “undesirable foreign organizations” and outlaw their activities in the country. The main criterion for putting a foreign or international NGO on the list is “the threat to the Constitutional order and the defense capability or security of the Russian State.”
....read more...

https://www.rt.com/politics/264869-russia-soros-undesirable-foundation/
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Too bad the Reece Committee didn't succeed in expelling certain "undesirables" who were suspected of being similarly engaged in un-American activities here in the USA.

BVS said...

ThePopeNoMonster

Because I think Monteith was a whack job I'm not a Christian?

Because I think he is so highly thought of here because of his reading Constance's books, I'm not a Christian?

Because I think Catholics are treated so warmly here, I'm not a Christian?

You or anyone else do not have to agree with me, that is your choice. I suspect that most commentators here do not agree with me on my earlier post.

There is absolutely no dissension here from anything Constance publishes. And I'm not talking about the occasional fight between her and Dorothy. If this is to be a members only blog, where no one should dare speak against Constance or the RCC, then such should be stated.

But it's not. Although it should be and your response is proof of that.

There was nothing in my post that was nasty, or non Christian.

I think the guy was off his rocker. As I said earlier, I didn't expect a lot of you to agree. And that's fine.

I think Catholics are treated extra warmly here. That's not nasty. If you don't agree, that's fine.

So, I don't follow the Golden Rule?

If following the Golden Rule means never opposing RCC doctrine or Constance then, I choose not to follow your Golden Rule.

There was nothing nasty about my post. Maybe strongly worded in my view on Monteith but, certainly not nasty.

But that's how it is around here. Question Constance, Susanna or the RCC and you must be an unfriendly, unchristian person.

What a joke!

Susanna said...


From Newsweek:

Soros Foundation Outlawed By Russian Parliament

By Tanya Lokshina 7/10/15

http://www.newsweek.com/soros-foundation-outlawed-russian-parliament-352251

Susanna said...

Under Kremlin pressure, 'undesirable' U.S. charity pulls out of Russia

Reuters
Jul. 22, 2015

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-under-kremlin-pressure-undesirable-us-charity-pulls-out-of-russia-2015-7
_____________________________________________

Susanna said...

Russia's FSB to Help Compile 'Patriotic Stop-List' of Undesirable NGOs
The Moscow Times
Jul. 03 2015

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russias-fsb-to-help-compile-patriotic-stop-list-of-undesirable-ngos/524994.html

Anonymous said...

I did add a link to a video September Clues here. This video from the CGI expert (not me) shows, seeing is believing and since people saw the planes they need to see that these planes were real, but were in fact CGI.

This trick was easily done and NOT DONE WELL so the evidence it compelling. It goes like this in the video. 1. wide shot of Manhattan no plane 2. close up with plane about to enter the building 3. plane nose shoots out the other side 4. the only "helicopter" view for all three channels suddenly goes to black (nose thing was a mistake because the layer with the plane was not shut off in time obviously) 5. resumed "live shots" The images were layered and posted over the other. It is explained in fine detail in the video. This required the media outlets to know about this nobel lie and all took the "live feed" from the movie studio or what ever, and the layers and again, only big executive producers relayed the play by play action over the airwaves.

People are living in fear of being caught and going to jail, this information can never be main stream. And it won't be. Like the video "all wars are bankers wars" says, fractional reserve banking follows a path ...people borrow, governments borrow, when that ends WAR must happen. It was a false flag to make a war and especially design a police state with surveillance and total control. Nothing new, but it happened in Germany, why not here?

Soros is in the Lucis Trust world servers video. This is my favorite video of Soros with Ken Griffin, who basically funds the Chicago TEA party by himself from what I was told. Ken also ran the Chicago Public Education Fund formerly run by Ayers and Obama under the name the Annenberg Challenge. At the banker level, the ideology and party lines blur into the 'very religious banker' Marx or Engels, Communist or Capitalist don't matter category.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhUipXkP-6A

Anonymous said...

Soros 'helping the Nazi's was the greatest part of my life', weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Qr7TnWG74

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

" Susanna said...
This is unbelievable!!! I thought Soros was the communist!!!! "

that's because you people don't understand what communism is and isn't, or that
the real game in "socialism" is rule by megacapitalists and suppression of
competition and of anyone who isn't producing or spending, and because you don't
understand that Russian communists can and do concern themselves with the interests
of Russia per se aside from other issues.

Its not your fault, really, you've all been relying on people like Heritage
Foundation, John Birch Society, Cliff Kincaid and related others to give you the
definitions you work by. Without question.


paul said...

You people. LOL
Christine, GOT GRADIOSITY?

Susanna said...

BVS,

On what grounds are you assuming that I have changed my opinion on human-induced climate change?

Why haven't you posted the comments that show EXACTLY where I have done a 360?

Nevertheless, I will give you the benefit of the doubt regarding your sincerity and answer your question.

I have not changed my opinion.

Not only that, but I have very clearly explained that as a Catholic, I do not have to agree with the Pope's scientific opinions, his economic opinions, his political opinions or even his religious opinions insofar as they are his opinions......as Pope Benedict XVI explicitly pointed out in his series entitled JESUS OF NAZARETH.

Strictly speaking, I am obliged to abide by the Rule of Faith ( Scripture and Sacred Tradition ) which includes obeying the Pope in matters of faith and morals.

When a Cardinal is elevated to the rank of Pope, he doesn't start actively "defining" matters of faith and morals all over the place. Except on the very rare occasion when the Pope defines something "ex cathedra," we are obliged to hold fast to the faith that we have already been taught. Were this not so, the church would not have been able to properly function during those dark periods when the chair of Peter was vacant or the Pope was corrupt.

When all is said and done, the Pope did not teach me my Catholic Christian faith. My parents did.

The Pope himself is subject to the Rule of Faith, and while he can expand on our understanding of the faith, he cannot change or contradict the faith transmitted to the Apostles by Christ which has been handed down to him by his predecessors.

Neither does my faith depend upon the personal sanctity of those who are charged with the mission of preaching and teaching it. It depends on Christ who is the absolute ultimate Head of the Church. Whatever authority the Pope has is a delegated authority.....delegate by Christ. Papal infallibility does not necessary guarantee impeccability ( inability to sin) as history unfortunately shows.

But even if I disagree with the Pope about his opinions which are not infallible, this does not entitle me to be disrespectful in my disagreement......any more than I would be entitled to be disrespectful to any other person.

With regard to human-induced climate change, I do not agree with the Pope's opinion that it is "settled science."

Among the culprits who I believe are badly advising the Pope in this matter is Monsignor Sanchez Sorondo who is reportedly a good friend of the Pope and like the Pope, is from Argentina.

There are a couple of Catholic writers who have quipped that with friends like Msgr. Sorondo the Church doesn't need any enemies.

It is Sorondo who had no scruples about insultingly equating the human-induced climate change skeptics with the "Tea Party" and the big "oil interests".....but had a major hissy fit when asked why he was cozying up to entities who were not only enemies of the Church but also advocated policies that were against Church teachings - such as population control ( including abortion) as a solution to human-induced climate change.

Vatican official defends collaboration with UN
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=25554
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Susanna said...

cont...


The following is from Catholic News Service.

SANCHEZ-UN-SCIENCE Jul-15-2015 (437 words) xxxi

Bishop: Vatican is free to work with everyone, UN is not the 'devil'

By Carol Glatz

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1503060.htm
______________________________________________________________

Note that in the aforementioned article Sorondo was quoted as saying that "everyone was invited, but when a group headed by skeptic Lord Christopher Monckton showed up they were not allowed in.

A Vatican official's disgraceful diatribe

By Phil Lawler (bio - articles - email) | Jun 04, 2015
http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otn.cfm?id=1092
_________________________________________________________________

The Wrong Way to Respond to Critics
by Stefano Gennarini 5 . 29 . 15

http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2015/05/the-wrong-way-to-respond-to-critics
_________________________________________________________________

Anonymous said...

She is exclusively the brilliant one of this blog, Paul.

The rest of us, in her grand opinion, are just a few steps up from an amoeba.

;)

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I started climbing out of the primordial ooze and growing legs and arms
back in the late 1980s or early 1990s. I been there, done that.

Susanna said...

P.S.

Note that people like me are what are scathingly referred to as "climate change skeptics."

Not because we reject the Church's traditional teachings on practicing good stewardship in our use of the things of this earth, but because we do not accept the idea that human-induced climate change is "settled science" - especially after the fiasco known as "Climategate" exposed the fact that data had been fraudulently altered to fit the global warming narrative

President of Vatican Academy Attacks Climate Change Skeptic
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/02/president-of-vatican-academy-attacks-climate-change-skeptic/
______________________________________________________________

I found the following rather interesting.

Vatican Big Goes Hard Against U.S. Tea Party Climate Skeptics

Later in the interview Sanchez once more smeared American conservatives, when asked whether Pope Francis agrees that climate change can be assigned to human activity:


This I do not know. But I suppose yes, because he would not write an encyclical just to say that man is responsible for the earth but that everything is fine! Perhaps, you believe, like those who live off oil, that everything is fine? The Academy says otherwise, as do all the rest of scientific academies in the world. Only a few scientists paid by lobby groups think differently....
read more...


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/19/vatican-big-goes-hard-against-u-s-tea-party-climate-skeptics/
________________________________________________________________

Cindy said...

Deep Web Search – A How-To Site
Deep Web Search Tools for Everyone


Some may be interested in checking this site out on how to do deeper research than just using Google.

Anonymous said...

Personally, I'm hoping that she will share her treatise on the subject of Mars, again.
She believes there is intelligent life there, likely because she can't find it among us here at "whatever in blue blazes Chritine thinks".
She will be doing us a huge favor to cover that subject in more depth with us, don't you people agree?

Susanna said...

BVS

Junk Science and Cheap Moralism on the Tiber

Written by William M. Briggs, The Stream on 26 May 2015.

http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/junk-science-and-cheap-moralism-on-the-tiber.html
_________________________________________________________

Given my admittedly limited knowledge of all that is taking place at the Vatican - especially the Curia - the most charitable thing I can say given what I do know is that the Pope is being ill served and ill-advised.

I don't know how all this is going to play but I hope that you and everyone else here is now clear now about where I stand re: human - induced climate change.

Anonymous said...

Cindy, Thank you for the link to the Deep Web site. I started to randomly explore it, but quickly learned that I should have read the general information first. Beginners should heed the warnings given in the About pages. Skilled researchers undoubtedly will be aware of the pitfalls, but those new to searching, as I am, really need to know what they are getting into. Again thank you for opening that world of information to many of us.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/07/22/hacks-on-the-highway/

Susanna said...

Thank you from me as well, Cindy, for the Deep Web link.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

http://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(15)00216-5/abstract

transgender youth (not operated on or given hormone therapy pre op)
have normal hormones for their birth assigned gender, so it is a
psychological problem not a physical one.

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DexLCszj1wM

Once and for all people: "climate change" or "global warming' or "Conservation" "conservation banking" or economic development or stable economic development or energy development, or as Edmond Rothschild said at 52:20 after being introduced by Maurice Strom,

"In order to further the ideals of the WORLD WILDERNESS CONCEPT, and to prevent this concept from remaining just an ideal it is of paramount importance to find ways of funding and promoting it's rational."

Folks, that's climate change voodoo science he is talking about.

"STABLE DEVELOPMENT" now called "SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT".

http://www.haymarketbooks.org/pb/Marxism-and-Ecological-Economics

http://americanpolicy.org/2013/03/03/sustainability-marxism/

David de Rothschild Discusses Cost of Fixing Climate Change with Presentation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYH3dSxCyCw

He says climate change deniers "GET OUT" it is not a debate anymore!!

The SCAM behind NAIS - "Our Land: Collateral for the National Debt"

http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-SCAM-behind-NAIS--Ou-by-Derry-Brownfield-081130-795.html

Cindy said...

The Deep Web link was new to me too. When I listened to Constance being interviewed, I heard her mention "deep web" and that phrase just stuck in my mind so I went searching on google search and stumbled upon the Deep Web link :)

I thought too the information about doing research was well worth checking out--- since I'm one of those who have only doing surface research.

How to Research
Research – 99% don’t have a clue

Anonymous said...

If you go to the deep web you are handing your computer over to the CIA. Why don't you just stop it? You have no experience in such a thing. Constance warned about READING Transformation of America because of the sick content. What the hell is wrong with this blog are you ALL CIA operatives, what are there now TEN bad guys for every ONE good guy?

... Oh come on little children come to the dark web...hahahahahbrhahaha....Barf this is a post about Aquino, knock it off.

Try and get real lives. How about some Bible reading time? Thanks.

3 Disturbing Deep Web Experiences


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq94QMVbO-w

Anonymous said...

http://www.xeper.org/


Just send them everything about you, address, DNA sample, finger prints,


Letters of Inquiry:

Executive Director
Post Office Box 470307
San Francisco, CA 94147
U.S.A.
email: ed@xeper.org



Anonymous said...

passwords, IP address, what is on your computer, all your photos...

Cindy said...

"If you go to the deep web you are handing your computer over to the CIA"

I can't stop laughing--- yes the CIA will be interested in what I'm researching, I'm sure.

Still laughing!!!

Cindy said...

passwords, IP address, what is on your computer, all your photos...

People who have blogs are able to get people's IP addresses.

As far as photos--- that would be my grandchildren.

Now, I understand if there are photos of child porn or other illegal stuff on your computer--- that person would have reason to be concerned.

What’s the Difference Between the Deep Web and the Dark Web?

Cindy said...

"... Oh come on little children come to the dark web...hahahahahbrhahaha....Barf this is a post about Aquino, knock it off."

I find it interesting "you used the phrase" "the dark web". I didn't use that term--- the term I used was "the Deep Web".

Cindy said...

How the Deep Web Works

Anonymous said...

I wonder who will have the last laugh.

Anonymous said...

OK, reconfirmed with my professional certified expert friend. Don't go to the deep web, dark web, they say it's the same thing, there's no compelling reason anyone needs to go there unless you are a government spook, NSA, CIA OR a State trained or otherwise Black Hat professional hacker and you are behind dozens of proxy servers to hide your identity.

Period. There is nothing funny about it.

Anonymous said...

It's like going to downtown Detroit naked. Enjoy!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"People who have blogs are able to get people's IP addresses."
depends on the blog and what facilities are available to the bloggers from
the blog providers.
IP addresses are often "dynamic" which means they change use to use, and
dead end not in your computer but in an ISP which then of course can go through
its records to find more.

All this hysteria over the deep web - don't you know there is no way to keep
your stuff out of NSA hands? forget the CIA they're the whipping boy for the
NSA and have their own agendas of course and the stuff the NSA used to work
on may have been transferred to the NRO National Reconnaisance Office or ORganization
or whatever it is.

why do you think they scream bloody murder every time (very rarely) someone
comes up with some new cyber security that a cryptanalyst can't easily break?

Mostly your security lies in being lost in the shuffle in millions and zillions
of electronic communications, most of which are never examined, unless a "sniffer"
program recognizes a word or phrase it is supposed to look for and downloads the
communication for a human to look at.

Some people used to tease the NSA by deliberately putting sniffer terms into a
talk full of useless boring things and some poor NSA guy (or gal) would have to
read it.



Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

so stay out of TOR that was essentially created to make things safe for
pedophiles and cheaters and closet perverts.

some of the "deep web" links like dogpile are just search several engines
at once all of which are each none of them "deep web."

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

any place you can't access without a password qualifies as part of the deep web,
for instance.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

my mistake about TOR is didn't start that way, it became that way.

"Oddly enough, Tor is the result of research done by the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory, which created Tor for political dissidents and whistleblowers, allowing them to communicate without fear of reprisal.

Tor was so effective in providing anonymity for these groups that it didn't take long for the criminally-minded to start using it as well.

That leaves U.S. law enforcement in the ironic position of attempting to track criminals who are using government-sponsored software to hide their trails. Tor, it would seem, is a double-edged sword." http://computer.howstuffworks.com/internet/basics/how-the-deep-web-works5.htm

interesting that it was the Naval Research Lab aiming to help whistleblowers,
maybe that was in a better time with better people running things, or maybe some
other agenda was in play. This would certainly allow people to communicate with
moles in special access programs that they, although of higher rank, were not
supposed to be in the loop of which.

Anonymous said...

Doing the bellycrawl through the web is your specialty isn't it MCE?
Dark things take up all of your mind, and all of your time.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

4/14/1972 – New York, NY: Ten members of a local mosque phone in a false alarm and then ambush responding officers, killing one.
1/19/1973 – Brooklyn, NY: Muslim extremists rob a sporting goods store for weapons, gunning down a police officer who responds to the alarm.
7/1/1973 – Bethesda, MD: An Israeli diplomat is gunned down in his driveway by Palestinian terrorists.
7/18/1973 – Washington, DC: Nation of Islam members shoot seven members of a family to death in cold blood, including four children. A defendant in the case is later murdered in prison on orders from Elijah Muhammad.
10/19/1973 – Oakland, CA: Nation of Islam terrorists kidnap a couple and nearly decapitate the man, while raping and leaving the woman for dead.
10/29/1973 – Berkeley, CA: A woman is shot repeatedly in the face by Nation of Islam terrorists.
11/25/1973 – Oakland, CA: A grocer is killed in his store by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/11/1973 – Oakland, CA: A man is killed by Nation of Islam terrorists while using a phone booth.
12/13/1973 – Oakland, CA: A woman is shot to death on the sidewalk by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/20/1973 – Oakland, CA: Nation of Islam terrorists gun down an 81-year-old janitor.
12/22/1973 – Oakland, CA: Nation of Islam terrorist kills two people in separate attacks on the same day.
12/24/1973 – Oakland, CA: A man is kidnapped, tortured and decapitated by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1/24/1974 – Oakland, CA: Five vicious shooting attacks by Nation of Islam terrorists leave three people dead and one paralyzed for life. Three of the victims were women.
4/1/1974 – Oakland, CA: A Nation of Islam terrorist shoots at two Salvation Army members, killing a man and injuring a woman.
4/16/1974 – Ingleside, CA: A man is killed while helping a friend move by Nation of Islam terrorists.
3/9/1977 – Washington, DC: Hanifi Muslims storm three buildings including a B’nai B’rith to hold 134 people hostage. At least two innocents were shot and one died.
7/22/1980 – Bethesda, MD: A political dissident is shot and killed in front of his home by an Iranian agent who was an American convert to Islam.
8/31/1980 – Savou, IL: An Iranian student guns down his next-door neighbors, a husband and wife.
11/6/1989 – St. Louis, MO: A 17-year-old girl is stabbed to death by her parents for bringing ‘dishonor’ to their family by dating an ‘infidel’ African-American.
1/31/1990 – Tuscon, AZ : A Sunni cleric is assassinated in front of a Tuscon mosque after declaring that two verses of the Qur’an were invalid.
11/5/1990 – New York City, NY: An Israeli rabbi is shot to death by a Muslim attacker at a hotel.
1/25/1993 – Langley, VA: A Pakistani with Mujahideen ties guns down two CIA agents outside of the headquarters.
2/26/1993 – New York, NY: Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers.
3/1/1994 – Brooklyn, NY: A Muslim gunman targets a van packed with Jewish boys, killing a 16-year-old.
3/23/1997 – New York, NY: A Palestinian leaves an anti-Jewish suicide note behind and travels to the top of the Empire State building where he shoot seven people in a Fedayeen attack.
4/3/1997 – Lompoc, CA: A prison guard is stabbed to death by a radical Muslim.
3/17/2000 – Atlanta, GA: A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner.

http://shoebat.com/2015/07/22/and-you-thought-islams-war-against-the-west-didnt-get-started-until-911-think-again/

when Jefferson cut a deal with Barbary pirates, they still raided American ships
he asked why, because, they said, their religion requires they go after infidels.
So he read the Koran, and instituted the onboard fighting team called Marines
and sent ships with these fighters on board after the Barbary Pirates. That's why
Tripoli is mentioned in that Marine song.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

Attacks following 9/11

Sept. 11, 2001 – Nineteen al-Qaida terrorists hijacked four American passenger planes in a coordinated attack on U.S. soil. Nearly 200 Americans were murdered by the terrorists who hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 and flew it into the Pentagon, collapsing its western side. Meanwhile, two other planes, American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175, were flown into the North and South towers of the World Trade Center in New York City. Both 110-story towers collapsed, killing 2,752 people. A fourth plane, United Airlines Flight 93, was flown by terrorists diverting the flight to Washington, D.C. However, passengers fought the hijackers, and the plane crashed in a field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, killing 40 passengers.

Feb. 16, 2002 – Muslim snipers Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad kill Keenya Cook in Tacoma, Washington. The snipers would kill 21 more people in a crime wave that stretched from coast to coast.

March 19, 2002 – Jerry Ray Taylor, 60, is shot by snipers Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad at a Tucson, Arizona, golf course.

Sept. 5, 2002 – Paul J. LaRuffa, 55, is shot and wounded by snipers Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad in Clinton, Maryland, in the parking lot of his restaurant.

Sept. 14, 2002 – Muslim snipers Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad wound Rupinder “Benny” Oberoi, 22, outside a liquor store in Silver Spring, Maryland.

Sept. 15, 2002 – Snipers Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad would Muhammad Rashid, 32, outside a liquor store in Brandywine, Maryland.

Sept. 21, 2002 – Snipers Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad kill Million A. Woldemariam, 41, outside an Atlanta, Georgia, liquor store. Snipers also kill Claudine Lee Parker, 52, outside a liquor store in Montgomery, Alabama. The snipers shot Kellie Adams, 24, in the neck as she approached a liquor store in Montgomery, Alabama, where she worked.

Sept. 23, 2002 – Snipers kill Hong Im Ballenger, 45, outside a beauty store in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. They also kill James D. Martin, 55, outside a supermarket in Wheaton, Louisiana.

Oct. 3, 2002 – Snipers kill James L “Sonny” Buchanan, 39, while he mows a lawn near a car dealership in White Flint, Maryland. Premkumar A. Walekar, 54, is murdered while he pumps gas at a station in Aspen Hill, Maryland. The snipers kill Sarah Ramos, 34, as she sat outside a shopping center in Silver Spring, Maryland. They also murder Lori Lewis Rivera, 25, while she vacuums her car at a Shell gas station in Kensington, Maryland. While she attempts to cross a street in Northwest Washington, Pascal Charlot, 72, is shot and killed by the snipers.

Oct. 4, 2002 – Snipers wound Caroline Seawell, 43, as loads her car with her purchases in a Fredericksburg, Virginia, store parking lot.

Oct. 7, 2002 – Snipers wound 13-year-old Iran Brown outside a Nejamin Tasker Middle School in Bowie, Maryland.

Oct. 9, 2002 – Snipers kill Vietnam veteran Dean H. Meyers, 53, while he pumps gas in Manassas, Virginia.

Oct. 11, 2002 – Snipers kill Kenneth H. Bridges, 53, as he pumped gas at a station near Massaponax, Virginia.

Oct. 14, 2002 – Snipers kill Linda Franklin, 47, in a Home Depot parking lot in Falls Church, Virginia.
same source.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

many many more attacks listed over the years since 9-11 same shoebat link.

Constance Cumbey said...

I'm busy working on the next NewswithViews, Part II that I hope to have up there on Friday. Met with some significant people tonight in terms of getting word on concerns out to some who might be able to do something about it.

In the meantime, vis a vis the timeline, Stephen Flower's book glorifying Satanism, published by Bear & Company (Matthew Fox co-founded) had this, inter alia, to say about Aquino in the period of time before he and Vallely co-authored their paper:

Over the five-year period from 1970 to 1975, the Church gained
members from all over the world. Local Satanists wished co organize
and hold rituals in emulation of events at LaVey's Black House. Now
the Church needed an administration. Much of chat administration
was handled by Diane, who often responded to correspondence
under the name "Lana Green." During this period, another important
administrative role was taken on by Michael Aquino. Upon his return
from Vietnam in 1970, he was named a Priest of Saran and a member
of the Church's ruling body. the Council of Nine. From late 1971
to midsummer 1975, he was the editor of The Cloven Hoof, the chief
in-house publication of the Church.


As I said in the newsletter, this activity almost made Jim Channon's evil in and of itself FIRST EARTH BATTALION look like a Sunday School picnic by comparison.

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Sorry, Stephen Flowers' book is titled LORDS OF THE LEFT HAND PATH. It was originally published in 1997 by Runa-Raven Press. It was re-published in 2012 by Bear & Company. I understand Barbara Clow, Matthew Fox & crowd sold a substantial part of their interest in Bear & Company to Inner Traditions" -- part of a New York City occult bookstore. Inner Traditions is located at One Park Street, Rochester Vermont 05767.

We are looking at some very deep dark evil here!

Constance

Constance Cumbey said...

Article by Javier Solana talking about his view of the Iran Agreement (he sees it as successful) and claims no small part over the years in its achievement.

http://www.newvision.co.ug/news/671221-diplomacy-s-long-distance-race.html
http://tinyurl.com/ncvlp2f

Constance

BVS said...

Susanna

I have previously posted that I was a former catholic of 30+ years- catholic school my whole life, altar boy for 7 years, and staunch defender of the faith.

I mention because I had previously posted this as an anonymous commenter and decided to post under a name to avoid confusion with other anonymous commenters.

I have also stated that most of my family are Catholics and many of them are good, decent people who I love very much. So, I understand catholic matters of faith very well.

I find it very hard to believe that Pope Francis doesn't know exactly what's going on. I think it's naive for anyone to think that he is the victim of others around him that may be providing him with false or misleading information.

The RCC has more than enough money to surround him with the best advisers. I'm sure that his advisers consist of some of the most intelligent and educated people on the planet whether members of the clergy or civilian. I'm pretty sure it's safe to say the Pope knows exactly who the supporters and detractors are on every subject or statement he issues. He knows exactly what everybody is saying out there.

Let's say that he doesn't and is being misinformed about climate science.

To lend his voice to this cause is irresponsible and makes him complicit in the very things you have spoken against previously. His encylical has rallied millions of people and furthered this cause tremendously. By holding conferences to persuade opinion and "get results" at the Paris conference as well as his plans to speak to the U.S. Congress (I'm sure the climate issue will come up during his address) and most importantly speaking to UN on the issue in September, he is in effect, giving credibility to those that perpetrated this fraud to begin with. I'm talking scientists, corrupt politicians, and those who would seek to implement a form of global governance under the guise of climate control. He must know this as he is probably surrounded by better staff than most Presidents or world leaders.

Reflecting on my previous post, it may have been inaccurate for me to say you have done a 360 as I have not seen any comments you have published that would indicate such, but, it's your silence on the issue in the past several months that makes you complicit as well.

Having said that, upon reflection, in my zeal to be heard on certain issues, I may come across as harsh and unchristian. That is something that I must work on.

Having seen many of your posts over the years and how you conduct yourself, I am pretty sure you are a good, decent person. If it seems that I have questioned your character, I apologize for that as I must realize that words sometimes offend as much as actions.

But, as respectfully as I can say, I strongly disagree with your silence on the issue, or your reluctance to speak out against the agenda as you once did because, you don't want to disrespect your pope.

Susanna said...

BVS,

I am not reluctant at all to speak out abut the agenda behind the fraud that is human-induced climate change.

I don't know what you mean by my "silence" since I have always been willing to weigh in on things Catholic whenever asked to do so BY CONSTANCE.

When I do, it is to explain the Catholic position or to clarify things that non-Catholics might not understand. If I am not more vocal, it is because this is not a "Catholic" blog and out of respect for my non-Catholic Christian brothers and sisters here, I do not in any way wish to come across as if I am trying to "convert" anyone.

Re:I find it very hard to believe that Pope Francis doesn't know exactly what's going on. I think it's naive for anyone to think that he is the victim of others around him that may be providing him with false or misleading information.

There a lot of other people who share your view. This is like the Galileo fiasco in reverse. In the case of Galileo, it was Galileo who was promoting what was then regarded as a THEORY by the Vatican as if it were "settled science." Of course, we know how THAT all worked out, don't we?

Specifically with regard to the Pope, since I don't know what is going on at the Vatican and since I cannot know what the Pope is thinking I have no intention of speculating about the REASONS why he is doing what he is doing.

And unless I can back up what I am saying with hard evidence I choose not to say anything at all. As the hilarious radio host Howie Carr often puts it "Never let your mouth write a check that your butt can't cash." Words to live by. LOL

RE:To lend his voice to this cause is irresponsible and makes him complicit in the very things you have spoken against previously. His encylical has rallied millions of people and furthered this cause tremendously..........

This is what a lot of good conservative Catholics are saying and they are being "dumped on" because of their views by their own fellow Catholics.

What many do not seem to understand is that there is a difference between the traditional Catholic teaching on the obligation to practice good stewardship in the use of the things of the earth and the so-called "human-induced climate change."

From what I can see, the THEORY of "human-induced climate change" is being used to disguise a socialist global political agenda. Monsignor Sorondo is only allowing those people to attend the conferences who share his own pro-climate change point of view.

Re:Let's say that he doesn't and is being misinformed about climate science.

I don't think the Pope believes he is being misinformed. I am willing to stand corrected if I am mistaken, but I think Msgr. Sorondo chose the people who sit on the Vatican advisory boards. For example Mary Ann Glendon, (from Massachusetts) former Ambassador to the Holy See was replaced by the stridently pro-climate change Margaret Archer who also became President of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences was a Sorondo pick......even though articles portray her as "being picked by the Pope."

The Chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences (PASS)and the Pontifical Academy of Sciences is currently none other than Msgr Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo.

When I see articles that say someone was "picked by the Pope," I usually vet the article more closely to find out who REALLY picked whoever it was who was "picked."

So when all is said and done, I don't know how everything is ultimately going to shake down, but until then, I prefer to reserve judgement. There are other things I happen to know about the Pope - things I am not going to mention at this time - which lead me to want to give him the benefit of the doubt.

In the meantime, this does not in any way alter my Catholic Christian beliefs in matters of faith and morals.

Have a great day.

Anonymous said...

Constance,

Did you notice that the Iran Deal (he alone got that ball rolling 06/06/06) was another gift for Solana's birthday on 07/14/2015 ?
Timing is always very interesting concerning this man, isn't it?

Cindy said...

"Flowers shows that the left-hand path is not inherently evil but part of our heritage and our deep-seated desire to be free, independent, and in control of our destinies".


1-6 Why the big noise, nations?
Why the mean plots, peoples?
Earth-leaders push for position,
Demagogues and delegates meet for summit talks,
The God-deniers, the Messiah-defiers:
“Let’s get free of God!
Cast loose from Messiah!”
Heaven-throned God breaks out laughing.
At first he’s amused at their presumption;
Then he gets good and angry.
Furiously, he shuts them up:
“Don’t you know there’s a King in Zion? A coronation banquet
Is spread for him on the holy summit.”

7-9
Let me tell you what God said next.
He said, “You’re my son,
And today is your birthday.
What do you want? Name it:
Nations as a present? continents as a prize?
You can command them all to dance for you,
Or throw them out with tomorrow’s trash.”

10-12
So, rebel-kings, use your heads;
Upstart-judges, learn your lesson:
Worship God in adoring embrace,
Celebrate in trembling awe. Kiss Messiah!
Your very lives are in danger, you know;
His anger is about to explode,
But if you make a run for God—you won’t regret it!

Anonymous said...

A gallop poll shows that Pope Francis's approval rates are slipping among both American conservatives and liberals, but for different reasons.


"Among conservatives, the drop-off has been especially sharp: Just 45 percent view Francis favorably today, as opposed to 72 percent a year ago.

“This decline may be attributable to the pope’s denouncing of ‘the idolatry of money’ and attributing climate change partially to human activity, along with his passionate focus on income inequality — all issues that are at odds with many conservatives’ beliefs,” Gallup analyst Art Swift wrote Wednesday when the survey was published.

But liberal fervor for the Argentine pope, who was elected to great acclaim in March 2013, has also cooled, dropping an average of 14 points.

Some observers have predicted that many who embraced the pope’s candor and his views on a range of social justice issues would temper their ardor as they realized he would not change Church teachings on hot-button issues such as abortion or contraception or gay marriage.

Stephen Schneck, head of the Institute for Policy Research & Catholic Studies at Catholic University of America in Washington, blamed pundits on the right and left, like Rush Limbaugh and Rachel Maddow, for “politicizing” the pope’s teachings.

“He’s not a conservative or progressive, not a Democrat or Republican. So stop trying to clobber him with those yardsticks,” Schneck wrote in an email. “How many times do our pundits need to be told that he’s carrying the same message as John Paul II and Benedict XVI?”

Schneck said that as the visit approaches, he expects Francis’ poll numbers “to rebound to his strong, earlier levels — that is, if both the right and the left will stop dragging him into their partisan squabbles.”

http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/07/22/pope-francis-us-approval-rates-slump-sharply-led-by-conservative-dismay/

Susanna said...

P.S.

BVS

Here is the article from Breitbart which states that it was Msgr. Sanchez Sorondo who personally picked Margaret Archer to head the Pontifical Academy of Sciences.

President of Vatican Academy Attacks Climate Change Skeptic

.....The kerfuffle began last month when Gennarini sent a series of questions about the workshop to the Chancellor of the Pontifical Academies of Science and Social Sciences. In responding, Argentinian Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo accused skeptics of global warming of being Tea Party flunkies and paid lobbyists of the oil industry. Gennarini published this odd exchange on the website of First Things, a journal of religion and public life, which subsequently drew the ire of Archer.

Margaret Archer, a 72-year-old former sociology lecturer at the University of Warwick, is the second-highest ranking woman in the Vatican. She was personally chosen by Bishop Sanchez Sorondo last year to replace the highly respected Harvard Law Professor Mary Ann Glendon as President of the Academy. Glendon is considered by many to be a pro-life hero and, in a widely publicized move in 2009, turned down the Laetare Medal at the University of Notre Dame, after learning that she would be sharing the stage with President Barack Obama, who supports abortion on demand.

Archer took great offense at Gennarini’s column about his exchange with Bishop Sanchez. In language resembling that used by liberal lobbies, she called it “a hate message” despite the fact that nothing about the piece expressed any sort of animosity toward Sanchez and instead merely questioned the Academy’s move to invite advocates of abortion and population control to speak at a high-profile Vatican event.

Archer, in turn, questioned Gennarini’s credentials while holding up her own. She writes, “We are respected academics who take full responsibility for our actions and have, according to our Statutes, the duty and privilege of advising the Church on matters of Social Doctrine and its application. I am appointed by the Pope and responsible directly to him. I’m afraid that leaves you and your cohort out in the cold.”

Parroting the same charges leveled by Bishop Sanchez Sorondo, she queries, “which lobbyists meet your salary bill?” Without ever answering Gennarini’s central thesis, Archer charges him with having “a minimalistic version of the [Catholic] Creed, consisting of a single item: ‘We believe in the ethical depravity of abortion.’”

In point of fact, the Center for Family and Human Rights that Gennarini represents, whose stated mission is “to defend life and family at international institutions and to publicize the debate,” supports a wide range of activities aimed at promoting human dignity, and Gennarini himself has written on a variety of issues including human development, demographics, marriage and family, and the United Nations
......read entire article....

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/02/president-of-vatican-academy-attacks-climate-change-skeptic/
_____________________________________________________________

I am reposting the link to the First Things article referred to above so you won't have to go hunting for it.

The Wrong Way to Respond to Critics
by Stefano Gennarini 5 . 29 . 15
http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2015/05/the-wrong-way-to-respond-to-critics
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Susanna said...

Anonymous 11:17 A.M.

Re:A gallop poll shows that Pope Francis's approval rates are slipping among both American conservatives and liberals, but for different reasons.

And so it begins.....

Susanna said...

BVS

Here is the Breitbart article that states it was Sorondo who Personally picked Margaret Archer.


President of Vatican Academy Attacks Climate Change Skeptic

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/02/president-of-vatican-academy-attacks-climate-change-skeptic/
________________________________________________________________

Many are saying that with "friends" like Sorondo, the Pope doesn't need any enemies.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure if this link has been left (had a look back a bit but didn't see it)

https://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/why-the-catholic-behind-the-planned-parenthood-videos-went-undercover/ and the second video put out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjCs_gvImyw

This is just unbelievable.

From OZ.

Cathy said...

In the meeting on climate change and modern slavery, the Pope warns against the idolatry of technocracy

http://visnews-en.blogspot.com/2015/07/in-meeting-on-climate-change-and-modern.html


Vatican City, 22 July 2015 (VIS) – Yesterday afternoon Pope Francis greeted the participants in the meeting “Modern slavery and climate change: the commitment of cities” and in the Symposium “Prosperity, people and planet: achieving sustainable development in our cities ”...

The Holy Father gave an impromptu address in which he reiterated that care for the environment meant, above all, adopting an attitude of human ecology and that “Laudato si'” was not simply a “green” but also a social document.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

the pope's take on economics are not socialist but in line with medieval church
and Jesus. That conservatives are upset shows either they are too used to such
talk being a guise for plans that actually can harm the poor or else they are
not nearly as Christian as they think.

an awful lot of "American" and European capitalist values are simply idolatry of
greed, power, and "promethean" radical independence. Ayn Rand was one of la vey's
inspirations, he once said his church of satan was just randianism plus ritual.

what keeps conservatives blind is that they equate all capitalism and what keeps
Marxists blind is that they equate all capitalism. there is small business and
competition and somewhat larger enterprises, and then there is the wannabe
monopolies and finance capital and huge industries and cartels and the mentality
behind it, which would replace feudalism and royalty with themselves and the
rest of us be peons, and uses various methods to accomplish this.

Anonymous said...

Once again, you are using your "one size fits all" approach to critique all conservative people, Cristine Erikson.
You do this to every group of people because they are not your category of people.
In fact, no one is your category, since you are the better caliber person, in your high and mighty opinion and discourse. Because others are different than you they are automatically suspect of all of the worst evils.
Since when are you The Judge?

Even when I can see what you see and agree, I end up disagreeing with you, because your "judgments" boil down as very biased and fall flat at striking the real target-the real issues at hand. And of course, you are loud and long, and too often make sure that we know how wrong absolutely everyone is, according to your version of "law" (from which you have conveniently exempted yourself I notice).

Do you ever shutup long enough to judge yourself "o ye of the biggest mote in the eye of all" ???

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I have been in the conservative mentality scene in the past I know what
its like.

as for " And of course, you are loud and long, and too often make sure that we know how wrong absolutely everyone is, according to your version of "law" (from which you have conveniently exempted yourself I notice)."

kindly explain what this confused statement refers to.

Anonymous said...

I have as well.
Your posts are loud (scream pitch when you are talking down on "you people")
Your posts are long (Constance herself has noted this) explain less and let us decide on material.
You are on the computer so much to "tell us like it is", do you go out of your own bounds to help somebody/anybody else from that armchair of yours? You talk, talk, talk about the failures of others, so when all we get is talk it appears that is all you've got. If you really are a charitable person you would begin your charity at ceasing from being so flatly judgmental of others.

Clear enough? It should be....and if you were taking time to judge your own self instead of others you would not have asked or needed it explained----to you!

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

I am referring to this "your version of "law" (from which you have conveniently exempted yourself I notice)."
what do you mean "law" are you trying to drag soteriology into this and if so did
you know that if you READ the Bible like you would any other book you would find
that Paul refers to circumcision and food permanent restrictions as law?

I speak from experience, and I have said before I have "been there done that
repented of it" referring to the whole conservative cult mentality thing. I already
judged myself.

Susanna said...

Dear OZ,

It is my understanding that there are more videos to come......even worse than the ones already shown. Planned Parenthood is shaking in its shoes!!!

Anonymous said...

Quit trying to pigeon hole for the sake of arguing in those hairsplitting little details you like to get lost in. When one is guilty of breaking one portion of the law (in how he does and does not love his brother as himself), then he is guilty of all (how do you fare there is the question you can and should be asking yourself).
You should have already read and known this, and that is what I refer to.
Judge yourself in that big picture view and see if you are lacking, just like everyone else you judge to be lacking. Cristine, you certainly don't mind assuming or accusing wrong in others so perhaps, you should see the actuals in you.
The tiniest motes can get in the way of our vision, imagine a "whole forest of timber" in a life....
Should keep you quiet for a while as you ponder that one.

Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

hairsplitting details are where its at and even that thing you quote is a case
in point, and you like to throw a large kind of thing like this in order to
duck or silence criticism. I thought you were accusing me of applying legalism
to others the way you phrased it. that we are under grace not law so no standards
apply.

I don't see you doing this to Susanna, Constance or anyone else so I can only
assume I am on target. and saying "you people" is not screeching . you are too
sensitive. why don't you examine yourself and see if I am on target or not?

Anonymous said...

Your one size fits all judgments are the problem (and you don't see this about you? really?)

That has everything to do with your own personal attitude in that apparent lack of respect (esteem) toward others. There's a verse about obedience in that matter-go look it up...
Last I checked it was God who does the judging, and he makes not even one mistake, unlike you in your blanket approach in dealing with others, whether it is with individuals, people groups, or even nations.
It is not to silence criticism, as you love to assert so you can defensively posture yourself, but rather, that you would be one who can or will, at least, make the attempt at being across the board fair minded, which you are often not. Start with looking at your own motives before you assume or accuse. Can you, will you, do that much?
So, you figure it out, why you are so often being cast in a negative light.
People have no reason to listen to clanging cymbals.



Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"Last I checked it was God who does the judging, "

ahah! I knew you were working from some kind of unbiblical bias now its out.

"judge not" taken out of context. it is not about not judging but about not
doing the same things you judge others for, and by that judging show you
know better.

I will spare you my verbiage.

http://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/judge_not_heresy.php

http://kgov.com/should-christians-judge

http://so4j.com/judging-others-should-christians-judge

and if you want less verbiage still you can put judge and bible into a search
engine and find the specific verses and then go to the Bible for context.

Anonymous said...

"I will spare you my verbiage."

Thank you, God.


Are you done???
Perhaps you should seek employment with the global governance crowd, as you seem to think you're qualified to be in the thought police brigade in this dour episode of your needless arguing.

In yet another, in the ditch exchange of yours, we have you posing as the "be all end all" person of the blog, then? You are the gatekeeper at the door of all truth?
I am sure the last time I checked it is God who judges motives (and all behavior). We, in reality, each in our own limitations only have behaviors to look at, and should defer to God's standard which is Jesus himself in what we cannot see, which is another person's heart, their thoughts. Apparently, your measurement of others is based on you, and what you think, comparing me or other people to yourself? That should be speaking volumes to you..(and truly unbiblical, don't you understand that? why are you not judging yourself in this very thing? and my original point)

Measure yourself by Jesus.
When you are humble, and know you don't measure up to Him, then you will have an inkling as to how to view your neighbor-the rest of us. In that humble stance the ground will be level.
Somehow you keep missing this very thing.




Christine Erikson (aka Justina) said...

"I am sure the last time I checked it is God who judges motives (and all behavior). "

I Tim. 5:24 and review the material in the links. Also review self defense material
you can find online, the issue of projecting an image making you viewed as less
easy target, and what predators look for in a target, and what to look for in others' subtle
indicators body language, facial expression, tone, position vis a vis you and
the rest of the room or location, etc.

yes you can read people. read up on interrogation that is nonviolent and far more
effective since the microgestures microexpressions that give away hidden things
are studied to tell whether they are lying or not.

and enough posted material you can get a picture of a pattern and a pattern means
something. To those whose only motive is fame, glory and "leadership" meaning
getting a following, everyone else is assumed to be after the same things. Rarely
is actual devotion to a purpose regardless of gain or loss to oneself even
considered.

I think if an NSA or other intelligence analyst read your misinterpretation of the
Bible, as being a way to operate all the time, he or she would hit the floor
laughing.

The Bible is true, and fits experience. Where it doesn't, a misunderstanding or
mistranslation is in play.

"A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished."

Prov. 22:3

Anonymous said...




Ahem...
This is only a blog.
This is the virtual world, Cristine.
You have none of those things to go by in this instance, so your attitude, position, and posture in your text is overkill.
We do have your multitudes of words that present readable patterns because you use so many of them and out of context and sorry to say, your tone is generally ungracious. Judge yourself is what you should do before you attempt that with others.

In the proverbs it also says: in the multitude of words there lacketh not sin.
You have repeatedly demonstrated this here as the proverb indicates in subjecting this blog to your massive multitudes of words. Some real lacks have shown you up. So why think yourself superior then?

Get some fresh air for once. You think your virtual world, armchair lifestyle is real communication? Talking the bible like a parrot and not walking it out in real life, but only "relating" through a computer screen, has the potential of becoming totally bogus.
And may just make the sound anyone can recognize:
clang, clang, clang.



Anonymous said...

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-defends-embattled-planned-parenthood-n397476

Well Susannah, I'm not surprised to see Hilary defending Planned Parenthood here!

http://dailysignal.com/2015/07/23/planned-parenthood-pulls-names-of-corporate-donors-after-coca-cola-ford-and-xerox-object/ Seems certain companies are making sure their names are NOT linked to Planned Parenthood as giving donations of any kind.

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