THIS JUST IN!! THE WALL STREET JOURNAL PUBLISHED THE SHARE INTERNATIONAL (BENJAMIN CREME - 'MAITREYA THE CHRIST') ANNOUNCEMENT THAT HE WILL BE 'EMERGING' AND DOING A MAJOR USA TELEVISION INTERVIEW IN THE USA 'SHORTLY AFTER CHRISTMAS.' Talk about 'the grinch who stole Christmas! The financial collapse seems tailor made for desperate people to fall for these anti-Christ lies. That the Wall Street Journal would lend credence by labeling it a "Christmas Miracle" is astounding. Here is the text of the Share International Press Release:LOS ANGELES, Dec 12, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- For years the world has been filled with miracles of all kinds. In April 1995 Time magazine devoted an eight-page spread to its cover story on miracles and concluded: "People are hungry for signs."Look now for the biggest miracle of all. In the very near future a large, bright star will appear in the sky visible to all throughout the world -- night and day.Unbelievable? Fantasy? No, a simple fact. Around a week later, Maitreya, the World Teacher for all humanity, will begin his open emergence and -- though not yet using the name Maitreya -- will be interviewed on a major US television program.In 1988, CNN and other media reported on Maitreya's miraculous appearance to 6,000 people in Nairobi, Kenya, on Saturday, June 11. A week before the event, a remarkable sign occurred: "On Saturday 4 June a big, bright star was sighted, unusually brighter than ordinary stars," reported Kenya Times editor Job Mutungi.For over 30 years, artist, author and lecturer Benjamin Creme has been preparing the way for the emergence of Maitreya and his group, the Masters of Wisdom. In May 1982, Creme revealed at a packed press conference in Los Angeles that Maitreya had been living in the Asian community of London since July 19, 1977.Awaited by all faiths under different names, Maitreya is the Christ to Christians, the Imam Mahdi to Muslims, Krishna to Hindus, the Messiah to Jews, and Maitreya Buddha to Buddhists. He is the World Teacher for all, religious or not, an educator in the broadest sense.As a modern man concerned with today's problems, Maitreya works behind the scenes of our changing world. The outpouring of his extraordinary energy has been the stimulus for dramatic developments on many fronts: the ending of the cold war; the break-up of the Soviet Union; the reunification of Germany; the ending of apartheid in South Africa; the growing power of the people's voice, leading to demands for freedom and justice; and the worldwide focus on preserving the environment.Maitreya's message can be summarized as "share and save the world". He will seek to inspire humanity to see itself as one family, and to create world peace through sharing, economic justice and global cooperation.With Maitreya and his group working openly in the world, humanity is assured not only of survival but of the creation of a brilliant new civilization.SOURCE Share International
Folks, this might be their move -- the one that was frustrated in 1982 - for real! Stay strong, stay in the Lord, and stay skeptical about Creme's / Betraya-Maitreya (whoever he turns out to be and you know my suspicions) probable "solution" to our economic problems. Could this be 'the hour of temptation to come upon all that dwell on the face of the Earth?" For the record: There is no Christ but Jesus. Once again, the pushers of the anti-christ are out and about, as when they ran those full page ads in 1982 proclaiming "The Christ is now here." Benjamin Creme did not come up with his London story until 5 days after a WRIF-Detroit radio debate he was not expecting with me was held. The newspaper ad campaign in 1982 cost upwards of $500,000.00. Nobody spends that type of money without very serious intent: but "Christ" and/or "Messiah", it clearly is not. Be very careful with this bunch. I personally witnessed a large Detroit audience of hundreds of relatively sophisticated and even wealthy people go under Benjamin Creme's spell when he was promoting this same "Christ" in 1981. Only upon witnessing that did I have any notion as to how Hitler had pulled off his bewitching of the German public: mass hypnosis!
Constance
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AND, remember to SAY NO to whatever Betraya/Maitreya presents, no matter HOW TEMPTING!
CONSTANCE
To Maitreya God says via Holy Writ:
"He will laugh thee to scorn."
Ecclesiasticus, 13. 2.
For some reason I could not help but think about how Constance told when Pat Robinson said that the Messiah would appear on television.
I have added to the story, so please refresh the page.
Thanks
Constance
Bomb Explodes At An Oregon Bank.
(CNN) -- "A bomb exploded at a Woodburn, Oregon, bank branch early Friday evening, seriously injuring a police officer investigating a suspicious device, Oregon State Police said."
"Police had brought the device inside the West Coast Bank branch after it was discovered outside, bank president Bob Sznewajs told CNN."
"Sznewajs said that two bank employees who were in another part of the bank when the bomb went off suffered very minor injuries, one who may have been hit by some flying debris and another who was "bothered by the sound."
"I know that all of our employees are fine," he said, adding that none of his employees had been allowed back into the front portion of the building, where the bomb exploded, "so we don't know what it's like in there."
"Woodburn police, an Oregon State Police bomb technician and the FBI were investigating the device when it went off, the state police said."
Link-
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/12/oregon.bank.bomb/
-SV
Hi Constance,
VERY INTERESTING Share announcement!
I just got an email notice from the WISEUSA crowd. Its an invitation to join in a
"Deep Listening Call" tonight December 12, 2008 (Of course I'm not going to join in on their on line meditation...I'll wait for the email report.) The purpose for this special meditation is:
"There is a rare astrological configuration occurring at that time - a "Grand Cross" involving the Sun, Moon, Saturn and Uranus. And it's also the full moon, making it a potent time to come together. Please join us as we enter into deep space together to listen for wisdom from the heart and soul of America."
I'm putting this up here because of the part in the Share International Christmas Miracle announcement that reads,
"People are hungry for signs."
Look now for the biggest miracle of all. In the very near future a large, bright star will appear in the sky visible to all throughout the world -- night and day."
I think it's worth noting the timing of the "rare astrological configuration occurring" and the Share announcement. I also had read this today at BeliefNet under the category "Astrological Musings" by astrologer
Lynn Hayes called 'The Christmas Star' This appears to be a big event for occultists in all sectors. -Rudi
http://tinyurl.com/6ovt5g
http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalmusings/astrology/
Regarding this TV interview:
I am obliged to "share" what I know, and that is, do not watch this. It is spiritually dangerous to look at this man's picture, say his name, to research him, to read about him, and most especially to watch him.
Protect yourselves people--do not go to his website, do not watch him on TV. If you happen to turn on the set and he is there, quickly turn it off and pray for spiritual protection.
Thank you Constance for the warning, I will pray that my family and my unsaved relatives not fall for Satan's lies.
Scripture tells us how the true Jesus Christ will return in Matthew 24:30-31 NIV says, "At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other."
I don't see any mention there of Christ being a "star" as the sign when He returns, but I suppose if all mourn and He comes in the clouds afterwards then I'll know.
I do see this verse applying to the Maitreya, 2 Thessalonians 2:8-10 NIV "And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved."
Huge - simply huge
If this indeed does transpire, the opportunity presented us is also huge - none of us should loose sight of that prospect either
DouginMI
Agreed, Doug.
Please heed the warnings given at 3:26 AM.
SANFORD STYLE
This is the BIG ONE. He's coming, he's coming.
http://share-international.org/media/newsmedia.htm
"What's next?
A major American television network has requested an interview with Maitreya, which he has accepted. This interview will take place at the earliest possible moment, to be determined by Maitreya. It is believed that the timing is relative to the global financial collapse Maitreya predicted and which is now coming to pass.
It is unlikely that Share International or any of its affiliated groups worldwide will have any prior notification of the time of this interview. However, once it has taken place, all pertinent details will be posted to this web site. This interview is expected to be followed by major network interviews in Japan and most probably in the UK, which will lead to an international press conference and, ultimately, Maitreya's 'Day of Declaration.'"
Somehow I missed him when he was in Chicago. (Just how did he magnetize Lake Michigan?)
http://share-international.org/maitreya/Ma_wwa.htm
He hasn't made any appearances since 2002.
It must be those Democrats who are hanging around with him.
"Creme has been informing the public about the gradual emergence of a group of highly evolved individuals who are here to help guide humanity through the present economic, political, social and environmental crises."
The strange thing is that the Wall Street Journal presented this as news. The only other large source picking it up was Yahoo Biz news. One explanation is that right now we are at the biggest full moon in 15 years because the moon is closer to the earth.
What's with Kenya? Maitreya made his first appearance in Kenya. We're still waiting to hear that Michelle Obama tape that was promised in October by API with its Kenyan connection. I wonder if the tape or Maitreya will show up first.
If it appears I'm taking this lightheartedly, remember that evil, whether man made or true evil, only has the power we give it.
Dorothy
Dorothy
But Dorothy,
I thought he made an appearance on the night of Nov. 4th in Grant Park.
Dorothy,
Why the WSJ? I have an idea.
As Constance has said many times, "Follow the money trail."
To Dawn (12:25 AM):
Yes, Pat Robertson once announced that Jesus was coming back "on" the air -- rather than "in" the air (as the Bible clearly states).
And Constance commented rather sarcastically something to the effect: "So, are we to believe that owning a television set is a prerequisite for viewing the Second Coming?"
In other words, are the poor people of Calcutta and Bangladesh to be denied witnessing the Second Coming simply because they don't own or have access to a television set? No, I don't think so!!!
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL THE EU CREW
http://www.shareintl.org/magazine/old_issues/2008/2008-12.htm#AmfM
"Will Barack Obama be the last president of the United States? I believe it was either Maitreya's associate or your Master who said that eventually the US presidency will be replaced by a group of wise elder statesmen and that former president Jimmy Carter (in office, 1976-1980) will be invited to join them if he lives long enough.
A. That is still the Plan so there is every chance that Mr Obama will be the last President."
Dorothy
If it appears I'm taking this lightheartedly, remember that evil, whether man made or true evil, only has the power we give it.
I will echo that with Hebrews 13:6
So that we may boldly say, the Lord is my Helper, I will not fear, what can man do to me?
DouginMI
Doug,
Dorothy is correct. You are correct.
God has already won this battle.
There are certain things though, even while knowing this, that you don't want to do. Such as participating in a trance channel reading, or playing with Ouji boards. You dont want to "open these doors."
Wow this is exciting.
..Signs and lieing wonders
enough to decieve , if possible,
even the elect.
I just had to erase a whole
passel of comments. i had my
finger on the send button. I
had made numerous sarcastic
comments about this Maitria
guy, which I thought where
true enough. Then a little voice
inside said Paul, this isn't funny.
He's going to deceive thousands,
maybe millions.
Even so, come Lord Jesus.
google elders the group is already working and jimmy carter is one of them, oprah is an associate member. blessings connie
Anon 9:44 said:
Yes, Pat Robertson once announced that Jesus was coming back "on" the air -- rather than "in" the air (as the Bible clearly states).
And Constance commented rather sarcastically something to the effect: "So, are we to believe that owning a television set is a prerequisite for viewing the Second Coming?"
In other words, are the poor people of Calcutta and Bangladesh to be denied witnessing the Second Coming simply because they don't own or have access to a television set? No, I don't think so!!"
I realize this but I am wondering if his statement would be used to promote this event to help deceive Christians that Matreya is the Messiah.
NEW AGE TEST
Answers will be provided on the next thread. (And no fair looking at Dorothy’s paper!)
1. Constancy Cumby’s book, Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow, was written as a warning about:
a. Leprechauns
b. Spiritual deception
c. Fundamentalists
d. Staring up at the sun too long
e. All of the above
2, The Alliance of Civilizations is:
a. An organization that teaches the “golden rule”
b. A group of enlightened human beings
c. A board game with really cool graphics
d. A pipe dream.
e. All of the above
3. H.P. Blavatsky taught the principles known as:
f. Theology
g. Theosophy
h. The Delphi Technique
i. Transcendental Meditation
j. All of the above
4. The majority of bloggers on this page could be classified as:
a. Fundamentalists
b. New Age Mystics
c. Infiltrators
d. Trouble makers
e. Truth seekers
5. Exposing the Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow is no longer important because:
a. Everyone is well aware of the dangers.
b. Maitreya has arrived
c. The danger wasn’t real in the first place
d. We’ve already lost, there’s no point
e. We’ve all ready won, there’s no point
f. Say what?
6. The “Golden Rule” is:
a. A clever scheme by the A.O.C. to unite the world’s religions under a universal guiding principle
b. The second greatest commandment upon which the law and the prophets rest
c. The movie sequel to “The Golden Compass”
d. The secret to successful community building
e. All of the above
7. Unity is achieved by
a. Overcoming entrenched theological differences
b. Focusing on a common enemy
c. Realizing that each and everyone of us is god
d. Realizing that each and everyone of us is the devil
e. None of the above
8. The best way to learn about the New Age is to:
a. Plant crystals up on Mt. Shasta
b. Read thousands of books on the subject
c. Meet Maitreya
d. Ask God to fill you in
e. Ask Dorothy to fill you in.
f. Don’t ask, it opens the door to the occult
9. The New Age is
a. Here
b. Just around the corner
c. Something that comes after a mid-life crisis
d. An imaginary friend
10. This blog site is good because it allows people to
a. Share information about the New Age
b. Share how the New Age differs from their personal beliefs
c. Rake people over the coals and inflict pain and suffering
d. Make some cyber friends and enemies
e. Both a and b
f. Both c and d
g. Test their knowledge
h. Lets the enemy know how much we know
i. Seek the answers from within
j. I've never seen a question with so many answers
Old Man,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
oops, I left one of the answers off of question #10....this choice falls in between b and c, but since I messed up, let's label it choice "x"...
x. Share international.
OLD MAN
You have a great sense of humor! As in Share Internationally? Wonderful ending.
Dorothy
Good thing we know who the real Messiah is, Yeshua, or we might be deceived...It's hard to imagine how the others will be able to tell the difference between the real and the fake with all the confusion out there..
Phil. 2:10-11 so that at the name of Jesus aEVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of bthose who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Even the ones who don't want to bow to Him now, will ultimately...
Shalom,
Joyce
A couple more reminders:
Matt. 24:5 “For amany will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many.
The antimessiah will be in Jerusalem at some point, which could deceive many Jews especially if he builds a Temple:
Matt. 24:15 “Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in bthe holy place (let the reader understand),
I don't think we can miss this:
Matt. 24:30-31 “And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. “And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.
I don't think this is going to be too hard to figure out..for those of us who read the Scriptures..
Joyce
To Dawn (10:44 AM)
Of course -- I'm sure that Pat Robertson's statement will most definitely "be used to promote this event to help deceive Christians that Matreya is the Messiah."
(I only elaborated on what Pat Robertson was teaching for the benefit of those who read this blog, who may not have been aware.)
To oldmanoftheski (11:07 AM):
LOL -- my favorites are:
8. e
10. b
Oops -- I meant to type
10. c
CONSTANCE KNOWS AND THEY KNOW CONSTANCE
Constance has reported over the years of her experience at the Creme lecture in Detroit where many prominent people attended.
It may seem strange that intelligent people would give credence to such possibilities. There are several possibilities. First it could be part of something supernatural that I'm not familiar with nor do I wish to become familiar with. Second, secret society activities make a nice cover for work that is not to be out in the open. Third if a powerful person says something is going on, there will be enough suck-ups around who will agree just to stay around the powerful person.
Wayne Peterson is a person who fits into the third group. He is someone who has a rather impressive resume who is also a follower of Maitreya. Constance says he is not just another kook on the block.
Here is an interview done with him in which he talks about his contacts with other powerful people who are or were into the Maitreya belief system.
http://share-berlin.info/pet_interv.htm
Here is his book at Amazon:
http://tinyurl.com/6zb8qa
New edition:
http://www.waynepeterson.com/NewEdition.html
Here's some bio:
http://share-berlin.info/peterson.htm
All of the information on Maitreya doesn't come from Creme.
http://www.maitreya.org/swastika/index.htm
Dorothy
The anonymous poster at 3:26 AM says we need to cover our eyes when Satan (or one of his clones) supposedly appears on TV.
Can Satan reach out from our TV screens and touch us? Hasn't he been trying to do so every night the damn thing is on?
Anon 3:26 seems to be saying that the deception we may be about to see will be all consuming, i.e. an occult initiation or some type of mass possession event that no one, not even Dorothy, will be able to resist.
I tried to make the "NEW AGE TEST" humorous, but also as a reminder that there is really no excuse for any of us to be caught off guard by all that is happening, or about to happen in the world. Having been made aware of the schemes of the enemy, we should be able to recognize "lord Maitreya" or any other planned deception for who or what it/he/she is. Cowering in fear and covering our eyes is not a choice for us. But neither do any of us have an excuse for being caught unprepared.
We've managed to keep each other awake so that we can help others by being salt and light in a darkening world. We're not just bloggers sharing our opinions here, we're trained soldiers who have had a lot of practice sharpening our swords. Sometimes we've inflicted a little pain on each other. That's just too bad. Consider the few emotional scratches we may have suffered as a necessary part of good training. Let's just hope we've practiced putting on the full armor of God and learned how to both defend and use our weapons against our real enemy when it really counts.
The battle belongs to the Lord.
Our redeemer lives.
Our God reigns.
We are His to command.
Old Man of the Ski
No one is suggesting that anyone "cower in fear" from this critter.
"Covering your eyes" or, better yet, turning off the television as soon as possible, is still very good advice when it comes to this man and his buddy. This has nothing to do with "discernment" per se.
I type this information not to be sensationalistic or cryptic, nor do I wish to start an argument or debate with you about its merits. It is written from my heart for readers to take or leave.
If I can find the correct words to anything more of practical relevance to what I've written above, I will add it later.
Any one know if Javier is set to give any interviews for US TV? I tried checking his agenda post the 25th but it is a blank slate.
Constance,
This is another fantastic find. You are definitely entrenched on the front line in this war. You and your husband are in my prayers, as I know how difficult it can be to deal with a life changing medical condition. How you manage to deal with your issues at home, your legal practice, and still find time to help educate others is truly a miracle. The Lord has shown just how gracious He is through you.
JD
The anon 3:26 comment is probably good advice, based on some of the things I read from people who were watching the Todd Bentley circus on tv or youtube.
Some felt an oppressive spiritual presence, and some were told by the Holy Spirit to stop watching. Whenever I watched a couple of short clips on youtube, I prayed first.
My first thought when I read this announcement (it amazes me that it was carried on the WSJ site), was this verse of scripture:
And they will say to you, 'Look, there!' or 'Look, here!' Do not go out or follow them. For as the lightning flashes and lights up the sky from one side to the other, so will the Son of Man be in his day. (Luk 17:23-24 ESV)
I do have to agree that Anonymous (@3:26 PM) has a point -- that we need to "pray for spiritual protection."
Even though most of us consider ourselves strong in our faith and "soldiers of Christ" -- we must never be so naive as to underestimate or dismiss the power of Satan either.
Of course, the power of Jesus Christ is absolutely strongest, but the less we allow ourselves to surround ourselves with the spirits of darkness and/or demons, we will all be that much better off spiritually.
Turning off the TV is always good advice.
Not looking upon an abomination, abominations, or the "ultimate" abomination, is also good advice, and scriptural. I didn't mean to insult you, Anon 1:59, or disparage your 3:26 warning (if indeed you are the same poster).
But we do need more information. If you have more to say, spit it out man.
Keep in mind, multi-colored flags go up whenever somebody tries to leave the impression they have some secret knowledge which they are willing to share when the time is right, or if/when they can find the "correct words"..... as if truth was floating around out there in the great beyond filtering down like fairy dust, or worse yet, was something that was under the sole proprietorship of an advanced race of enlightened beings.
Assuming you are the same poster as before, you now seem to be saying you were simply sharing a feeling that came from your heart. That's totally fine with me. I respect that. There's nothing more "insider" than conviction. But we should NEVER RUN FROM THE DEVIL! He's a predator, and one who can outrun us easily. We need to stand firm and resist him with everything we've got. Dorothy is absolutely right on this. Those that try to increase our fear, of anything but the Lord, are playing into the enemies hand.
As a side note: Does anyone else find it an interesting "coincidence" that televison signals will be 100% digital just in time for this upcoming event? Is it just to make it a "global thing", or would we see something different on an old analog broadcast? Just curious if this latest deception is technology dependent or not.
To oldmanoftheski (4:30 PM):
Re: "As a side note: Does anyone else find it an interesting "coincidence" that television signals will be 100% digital just in time for this upcoming event? Is it just to make it a "global thing", or would we see something different on an old analog broadcast? Just curious if this latest deception is technology dependent or not."
Amazing . . . I was wondering the same thing just this morning. Are there any "techies" out there who can help shed some light on this subject for the rest of us???
Also, anything behind the big push for all of us to buy these High Definition TV sets? My husband and I bought a 32" Sony HD TV for $499 the day after Thanksgiving. It's like "looking through a window" (When watching a football game, you can see each blade of grass on the field).
Old Man,
Your comments are fair and I understand where you are coming from. Secret knowledge? No, No, and No. What I have written is not from my intuition but comes from a very reliable source,whose judgment I trust completely in these matters, who warned me years ago exactly as I've written above.
When I said I would write more later if I could "find the words," I was thinking of a post that appeared on this website many months ago from a reader who had gone to this man's website and starting typing something into the comments section. As she started typing she immediately felt a malevolent presence, who she felt was somehow "pleased" that she was looking at the website (I paraphrase, but that was the gist of the post). She immediately closed down the browser and prayed.
I have been searching a couple of hours in the blog archives for this post but I can't find it. I will look again in the coming days.
I don't remember the name of the poster. If that person is one of the "regulars" and is reading this, hopefully they will come forward.
Also, by "from my heart" I only meant the affection I feel for the people here.
SWITCH TO HDTV.
The company line is that the switch is so that you can have a better picture, etc. The only thing I know about it is as soon as they are able they will be selling those analog stations.
If you don't have a tuner, Cable, or a HDTV you won't get anything.
You will no longer receive anything over your regular rabbit ears.
The "cray kooky conspiracy theorist" in me says that it is something more controlling than that. Like mind control through something transmitted through the HD signal.
OOps that should be that they are going to sell the analog frequencies not stations.
Dawn,
"Like mind control through something transmitted through the HD signal."
I think that's a possibility. I don't understand the physics of it, but I've read enough about "Nanotech" to realize that the technology that exists today is far more powerful than the average layperson realizes. What is reported in the media is, I believe, only the "tip of the iceberg."
Frankly I don't want to know more, because the little I do know scares the h*ll out of me. I think it's in everyone's best interest to hope for the best but assume (prepare yourself for) the worst in this particular case.
Dawn,
P.S. I can't discuss "End Times" with any of my friends. They would have me committed.
"Understanding the Next Phase of the Global Systemic Crisis" with Director of Research for the GlobalEurope Anticipation Bulletin, Franck Biancheri.
http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=29853
Anon 5:01
While we're waiting for you to share more of what you know, maybe you could give us a hint about this apparently "malevolent" source you seem to trust so implicitly?
My bet is that Maryanne, Young Grasshopper, is the researcher you're thinking of. I seem to remember her warning us about a website/book she found particularly nasty. I will ask her about it. But as for you...
If your intentions are good, and you are posting only out of "affection" for us as you claim, than my prayer and challenge is for you to have the courage to post what you know. Put up, or shut up. But then again, maybe you already have. (Per chance, that wasn't you at 6:24 was it?) Hard to tell.
To Dawn:
We already have cable. The only reason we decided to go ahead and buy the HD TV is that we have been told that, even with cable, when the change over comes on February 17th, our "picture" might look more like the "letter box" format on our old outdated set. Whereas, with the HD TV, we would have a full screen.
(e.g. The "letter box" format is what you would see when a wide-screen movie like "How The West Was Won" was shown on the TCM cable channel. You would see a rectangular picture with dark borders at the top and bottom of your screen.)
To oldmanoftheski:
There is no reason for you to behave in such a hostile way toward that previous anonymous poster, is there???
"maybe you could give us a hint about this apparently "malevolent" source you seem to trust so implicitly?"
Old Man,
Have my words got jumbled or what? When I said "malevolent presence" I was talking about spiritual oppression (exactly the same thing Cia W above was WARNING about the risk of when viewing Todd Bentley on Youtube, based on some stories she had heard).
Me (or anyone here) "trusting" such a presence - good grief, Old Man, you must be joking.
What I "know" is exactly what I said above and what was illustrated with the anecdote I recalled. And I don't think it was Maryanne - it was before she started posting here.
Please pull in your horns and stop the sarcasm. I am sorry I brought this up in the first place and I will not bring it up again.
Thank you and have a good day.
Franck Biancheri link:
http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=29853
Yes, Old Man of the Ski, I am also the person who posted this link.
Please allow me to clarify - it has no direct relevance to the main topic of this thread. I found it today while doing some economic research and found it very very interesting and relevant. Perhaps I should have posted it instead on the Lisbon thread.
I have never heard of this guy before today. A lot of the terminology on his website is very "Political" new-agey speak (Dorothy is the one with the finely tuned radar for sussing that kind of stuff, not me). He is very heavily networked, although all the names are unfamiliar to me.
On the other hand, he opposes the Lisbon treaty.
I don't have a handle on him yet, but the interview is interesting.
Anonymous 7:09,
Thank you for words of support. I was very taken aback by Old Man's response. I hope it was just a momentary lapse crossed with a misunderstanding, but it upset me nonetheless.
Again, thanks.
I just came over from the Cuddy thread where I left a comment. I am not going to read the comments here right now, but just wanted to say thank you to all the people who left me kind comments over there recently. It is very greatly appreciated.
In addition, this is really horrifying news! (About the Maitreya news on WSJ!) I am wondering if the Evangelicals will buy into this nonsense since Reinhard Bohnke predicted that Jesus was going to make an appearance in Nairobi, and a few days later Maitreya appeared! If anyone is in a church that supports the missionary work of Bohnke, you may want to warn your pastors about this!
God bless,
MAryanne
BOOK
It was figured out that there was confusion between the book Constance spoke about, The Armagedon Script, and the one Maryanne was concerned about, The Armagedon Conspiracy by Hockney.
In fact each title has two different books using it.
After talking with Maryanne, I came to understand that she didn't know about the book Constance was talking about. In addition, thinking about it I began to understand how her sensitive artistic nature gives her a different reaction to material I can view more distantly. The book she was talking about
The book she was talking about is a novel with a hypnotic effect if the reviewer at Amazon can be believed. It would explain why the book so startled her.
It is true. Evil is very seductive, luring individuals away from Good one step at a time. Having made a number of mistakes in the last 29 years, I know I have to keep my guard up and never take for granted that I know all there is to know and can quickly make all judgments based on what I know at a given point in time.
I admit I fit under the banner...Too old too soon Too late too smart.
Dorothy
I suspect the maitreya personna will emanate a "love and intelligence" that is powerful and deceptive. It will be the answer that those who are not sealed by the Holy Spirit will find difficult not to respond to.
Wondering...what name he will use in his grand entry.
just my 2 cents.
JAVIER??
The comments and inputs have greatly encouraged me. I especially enjoyed (and I am still reading, starting from bottom up and read some earlier from the top down --still have to get to many in the middle. Dorothy's, Paul's and Old Man of the Ski struck me in particular. I so enjoyed Old Man of the Ski's wry humor as expressed in the tongue in cheek questionnaire.
Constance
Anon 6 pm:
Perhaps we could start a support group. Everyone thinks we are nuts too. Even our Christian friend ignore us because we are pre-wrath (which is a discussion on another thread)
Anon 7:07- I am not an expert on this but I think it will appear as a box inside of the black boarder unless it was shot with HD cameras.
So all your old shows like Mr Ed and I love lucy would be shown this way
TV's switch to digital
There was a couple comments regarding the Feb. switch from analog to digital, one of which asked about the possibility of mind control or hypnosis being easier with the new technology. While I have no real knowledge of the technology aspect as far as sending or receiving signals(other than my HD picture is amazing) I do know a little about hypnosis and mind control.
To answer the question in brief, in theory yes this technology would make it easier and I will do my best to explain how. Your mind has things embedded in your subconcious that it considers absolute truth, one example would be my brain knows I am human, male, and has an embedded sense of right and wrong. For many of us our faith falls into this center of our mind because it conditions our actions. It's the reason when faced with a decision our concience kicks in and we know not to do something.
In order for hypnosis or mind control to work, the one implanting the desired result must get past the same mental gate that filters the above type of decisions. ie, I am not a dog, I am not a woman, etc. So the implanter needs to distract this part of the mind to get their suggestion through. This is why hypnotists lull their subject into a sleep or trance like state before implanting the desired effect. Another way is to repeatedly bombard the subject with statements that the subject already considers absolute truth. Over a short amount of time this effectively lulls the guard of this mental gate to sleep, then allowing the subject to implant thoughts in the subject which the subject from then forward may consider true. I say may because the subject can not have a previous opposing truth to the material implanted. ie As a believer, I could not be hypnotised to believe Al Gore was God, as this opposes absolute truths I already possess.
Now to the TV switch. TV can for many lull the rationale part of the brain to sleep. HD TV with its ever bright picture and dazzling color 1. Puts more strain on the eye, causing the brain to be preoccupied with constantly adjusting light
2. This extra light and color is all the more information for your brain to process, once again preoccupying the brain
All of this coupled with the right technique could be dangerous in the wrong hands. With the sensory over load of this technology together with some one using NLP or Erickson's Clinical Hypnosis would be catastrophic to the minds of a populace with out an opposing absolute truth. I have posted in the past regarding Obama's use of hypnosis in his speeches pre election. Many of the techniques which are now absent from his post election speeches (unless he is stating future goals that he may need support for) which have some links with much more of the technical aspects of how the hypnosis works. I hope this helped to answer the questions you had regarding the matter. To others sorry it got so long.
JD
Concerning HD TV
I just got AT&T Uverse and it is great, yet it got me thinking that now my TV has an IP address and so does my computer and my cell phone.
I find it interesting that IP address are in the following format: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx I'm thinking much like bar codes those dots could respent the number 6. The number 6 is used as part of an algroathem to seperated units of information.
I read an article about the new interent WEB 3 called "The Internet of Things to Come" where everything (and soon people) will have an IP address.
Maybe requiring everyone to have HD is just part of new WEB 3.
OK, this my be crazy but the dot (.) or 6 could be the 666 that seperates four units of information.
Maybe these are thoughts of an over active imagination, I'd like to hear your thoughts.
Deter
Thank you for the New Age test - I loved it. But I'm sure I don't know enough yet to actually pass it - so I may have to have some tutors for awhile.
I visited Creme's website and saw on the homepage for Share International, "Maitreya, the World Teacher, has not come alone, but with a group of wise Teachers who have long guided humanity from behind the scenes."
http://www.share-international.org/index.htm
Okay, didn't someone mention there's a group or club of wise thinkers? Are they the "wise Teachers" coming with this false Christ? I can say false Christ because the true Christ won't need a bunch of wise teachers to help Him or introduce Him.
Oldmanoftheski & Dawn--
I've wondered, as you two (and probably many more) have about the *real* reasons behind this move to the digital signal.
I don't think that you're reaching too far, Dawn, in thinking that these new tv sets and the new signal might be more invasive than we presently know. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if there is much more to the eye than there seems to be on the surface.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.608:
or
http://tinyurl.com/5d6gqd
Scroll down and look at Sec. 3 (a)
(1). Seems the idea is to get North America all on the same broadcast frequency.
Note, also, that broadcasters who fail to inform the public of this switch (as outlined in the bill) will face a fine
Canada is slated to end analog signal broadcast much later than we (August 21st, 2011). Australia is supposed to come onboard by
2013, and China is supposed to be broadcasting in DTV by 2015.
Here's a country-by-country list of current and future plans for the switch. This thing will truly be worldwide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_digital_television_deployments_by_country
or
http://tinyurl.com/26bce6
The switch to a digital signal was originally mandated by the FCC in November of 1999, and was supposed to be operational by 2006. Obviously there were some glitches along the way in getting it up and running by then.
Also, you might want to read how the CPB (Corporation for Public Broadcasting) and PBS approached this topic, in September of 2006.
http://tinyurl.com/67fn4o
Searches on the "DTV Working Group" (as noted in the Rep. Barton's-co-sponsored H.R. 608)--
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.608:
haven't yielded anything; but on the CPB/PBS link noted above , there's information on a "Digital Rights Working Group.
Also, here's a link to see how Asia is jumping on the Digital Broadcast bandwagon:
http://www.e-broadcastnewsasia.blogspot.com/
One of my reasons to believe in the rapture is because I believe that we will not be able to resist the hypnosis put forth through technology.
For a long time, many of my Christian friends disagree with me--they think there will be no rapture and we will go through the Tribulation. I tell them I think they will be brainwashed against their will, and God will not allow the Bride of Christ to have this happen. So he will take out the Bride.
I gather from reading these comments that some here may believe in the pre-wrath rapture? (Mid trib, or something to that effect)?
I think we are now IN the trib, and any time the rapture comes can't be too soon.
My hubby's first wife used to do the Maitrea meditation. She was drawn in by a bunch of those people who used her as a baby sitter then got rid of her when she was too sick to work--her son brought her home.
I don't think they can brainwash me but I have a healthy fear of the horror technology can do, in anyone's hands.
Maranatha, Our Only Hope, Jesus
Mariel
say, has anyone googled project bluebeam --- false apperance of our lord with holograms and elf{electromagnetic low frequencies}? is this connected with the armgdn script, or any of this stuff presently being talked about concerning maitreya and his hocus pocus show? personally if maitreya and his boys see me coming they better take and run cause i'm about to fix his wagon, so's to speak. yours truely, ozark. wonderin' bout project bluebeam, thats all. thanks! and p.s.{satans really startin' to bore me--- i mean all he ever even talks about is stuff that ain't true}.
Bobbie
Your comment of maitreya accompanied by other masters
reminded me of a book written long ago by a man named Beard T. Spalding,"Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East"
The book was deemed a fraud.
Sometimes I wonder if this maitreya being is a fraud as well?
Seeing Maryanne's name come up tonight, I happened to remember that Young Grasshopper had done a post a few months back asking the question "Is Obama Maitreya?"
I recalled that it was an interesting post and went back to her blog to see if it was still available. Evidently, she has put some of her old posts up again, including that one. She also mentioned that Obama was in Nairobi in the summer of 1988, when Maitreya appeared, which is rather odd.
Although I don't think Obama is Maitreya it's an interesting post, and gives the background into the evangelical that she was concerned about in her comment here tonight.
http://the-obama-nation.blogspot.com/2008/09/is-obama-maitreya.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/6xhbzr
http://www.leap2020.eu/English_r25.html
I personally find this easy to discuss -- but you have to meet people where they are -- maybe things are looking so apocalyptic here in Detroit with our obvious Depression that it is easier for people to see here than elsewhere.
Constance
Looks like Europe is happily planning to bring down our USA monetary system:
"GEAB N°29 - Contents
- Published November 17, 2008 -
Phase IV of the Global Systemic crisis: Breakdown of the Global Monetary System by summer 2009
The G20-meeting held in Washington on November 14/15, 2008, clearly demonstrated that this kind of summits is doomed to inefficiency because they concentrate on curing the symptoms (banks’ and hedge funds’ financial difficulties, derivative markets’ explosion, financial and currency markets’ dramatic volatility, ...) rather than the fundamental root of the current crisis, i.e. the collapse of the Bretton Woods system based on the US Dollar as sole pillar of the global monetary system… (page 2)
Read public announcement "
http://www.leap2020.eu/English_r25.html
I don't think this teacher will be the Mahdi to the muslims. This so called teacher is nothing like the conquering leader in the Koran. I dont see the muslims deciding to change their prophecies. It does feel false prophet like to me though. We know this prophet is of Lucerific inspiration either way you look at it. Look how well Lucifer has decieved the rest of the world with false religion, violence, sexuality. He is ready to try something big maybe here with this guy. Like Constance said, be ready. We could become the finatic terrorist really fast on this one. Choose your words carefully when discussing this. Keep Jesus in your heart.
Constance mentions how easy it is to get apocalyptic with the dire economy in her area. Easy here, too! Our town has been in recession for years. I am in Los Alamos where neglect has long been the watchword. The government treated us badly after the fire of 2000, and most of us can neither sell nor rent our homes. My family would have left if we could, and we are not alone in that.
But the Lord told me through the Bible that we are in the "Valley of Achor" here, learning in a quiet (very quiet) place how to "be a good wife" to Him. This Achor place really hurts.
Mariel
The world bes just too freaking divided and jaded for one fringe mystic to unite it these days. Creme / Maitreya hasn't been heard from since the early 1980s. Whatever hype they drummed up about him back then, nobody cares now.
I don't think this teacher will be the Mahdi to the muslims. This so called teacher is nothing like the conquering leader in the Koran. I dont see the muslims deciding to change their prophecies.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapeshifting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilocation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleportation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelg%C3%A4nger
Thanks JD.
Excellent post.
Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle;
be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray:
and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host,
by the power of God,
cast into hell Satan
and all evil spirits
who wander through the world
seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen
Anon 7:12,
"I am sorry I brought this up in the first place and I will not bring it up again."
Clever, very clever.
I'm calling your bluff.
You claimed previously,
"I am obliged to "share" what I know, and that is, do not watch this. It is spiritually dangerous to look at this man's picture, say his name, to research him, to read about him, and most especially to watch him."
Refusing to provide any details to back up your warning, you instead cite a mysterious anonymous source….
"What I have written is not from my intuition but comes from a very reliable source, whose judgment I trust completely in these matters, who warned me years ago exactly as I've written above."
Then you add still more scare tactics about a "malevolent presence" that another blogger who posts here had some experience with, which we have been told came about when she had contact with this same man’s website.
And finally, you refuse to provide any more relevant information, keeping all the rest of the bloggers here in the dark because of old man's insolence.
I wondered how long it would be before your ilk came here, depositing riddles and trying to instill fear, all the while claiming he/she was doing it out of "affection for the people here."
As I see it, this blogspot exists to expose deception and strengthen our discernment by providing knowledge which may help us stand firm in the day of testing.
You sir, have shared nothing but fear, and until you come clean, I will offer no more apologies.
Here is truth…
“When the wicked spring up like grass, And when all the workers of iniquity flourish, [It is] that they may be destroyed forever.” Ps 92:7
Old Man of the Ski,
You have contributed a lot of good research but you have a history of a "mean streak"" that jumps out not too often, but from time to time. This thread isn't the first time.
I can't remember you ever apologizing to anyone here about anything since you first contacted Constance some months ago and she asked you to be a guest on her radio show.
It must be a good feeling to be so confident that you are always right about everything.
I would like to throw this idea out there for the community's consideration:
Perhaps enough of us 'Constance Fans' could band together to form an IRC channel to facilitate further discussion and research on these important issues. I don't know much about it but I have started investigating the process (http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/changuide.html)
Just an idea.
Dan
he brings down the fire from the sky.....you can tell he's doing well by the look in human eyes.....better not compromise it wont be easy....... ozark
Hey, "old man" --
Someone needs to let you know that you are way out of line with your unreasonably angry responses to the "anonymous" poster (both last night and this morning).
Where do you get off thinking that anyone here on Constance's blog needs to be accountable to you???
You are behaving so unlike a "Christian" -- I am almost embarrassed at your behavior and total lack of sensitivity.
Yes, we can and should debate each other -- but EVERY poster here deserves respect and is fully entitled to his/her opinion.
You spoke about "raking people over the coals" inn your little quiz. Well, isn't that exactly what you are doing to this "anonymous" poster?
To "oldmanoftheski" --
Do you also think that Constance was using "scare tactics" when she stating the following in the last paragraph at the outside of this thread?
"I personally witnessed a large Detroit audience of hundreds of relatively sophisticated and even wealthy people go under Benjamin Creme's spell when he was promoting this same "Christ" in 1981. Only upon witnessing that did I have any notion as to how Hitler had pulled off his bewitching of the German public: mass hypnosis!"
Who is praying to angels and why??
THe HD switch is in this country - not totally gobal as fas as I am aware.
I had the same thought initially until I took a second look.
DouginMI
To Anonymous (12:49 PM):
Re: "Who is praying to angels and why??"
I don't think that ANYONE here on this blog needs to explain or apologize to YOU if they choose to ask St. Michael the Archangel for his help in battling Satan!!!
To oldmanoftheski:
If you really want "to expose deception" - why not expose that spooky 3:00 AM poster today (on this thread) with the very "new age" sounding name?
I'm very surprised that no one has mentioned it.
Anon 11:54, 12:32 et al.....
Constance openly shares her personal opinions and experiences, and we all respect that because she has also posted volumes of factual verifiable information to back up her conclusions. The anon poster whom I am accused of "raking over the coals" has stated he has a "malevolent" source, whom he trusts implicitly, a source who so far, he will not name. That seems to be fine with you. In which case, good luck.
Anonymous posters will be the death of this blog page. Perhaps you are all one and the same, who could tell? A poster with multiple personality disorder could argue with themselves and say anything. I'm right again of course.
To Anonymous 1:33
You are very right to be concerned about that 3AM poster with the weird name. If you click on the person's name you will be led to their blogger ID page. The picture on that page is horrifying. I clicked off of it very quickly and didn't read what they were interested in, because I already know. Definitely someone who needs a lot of prayer.
Hi Old Man,
I got your email and came over here to read the comments. No, I don't think that it was me that made the comment of experiencing a malevolent presence when I went to the Share website, because I just can't recall. That being said, I did go to the website over the summer when I first started coming here to Connie's blog, and didn't know anything about Share Int'l. I do recall that I got a major case of the creeps when I saw one of the links where Creme shift-shapes at a lecture. So I may have said something here afterwards. I simply can't recall, so you could be right, although I didn't feel any malevolent presence- just the heebie-jeebies.
Loved your quiz by the way. It really made me smile!
To everyone who may be interested in the Rev. Reinhard Bonnke connection to Maitreya's appearance on June 11th, 1988 here's a link:
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/kenyatimes.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/6evgpj
I expressed my concern to my pastor today because of the fact that so many evangelicals have a high regard for Rev. Bonnke and the missionary work he has done. My fear being that the enemy could use the "coincidence" of Bonnke predicting Jesus would appear on June 11th, to connect Jesus and Maitreya to Christians, especially liberal minded Christians who do not recognize how evil Share In'tl is. ( Sort of similar to Dawn's concerns about the Pat Robertson connection. The fact that Wall Street Journal published the article unfortunately gives the organization some credence.
Thinking about this some more...Maybe whoever is conjuring up these Maitreya appearances, knew that Bonnke had said that and used the opportunity for deceit. I think I've read that Bonnke had predicted it a few days before the actual appearance on Sat. 11th.
(Doesn't say much for Bonnke but I'm not going to judge the man since God will do that.)
BY the way, Obama was also in Kenya at that time, as someone here already mentioned. Perhaps he's one of the Men of Wisdom? Maybe him and Jimmy and the rest of them all decided to have a meeting that day since Rev. Bonnke provided the opportunity!
God in heaven, Oldmanofthe Ski:
"The anon poster whom I am accused of "raking over the coals" has stated he has a "malevolent" source, whom he trusts implicitly, a source who so far, he will not name."
Where has the anonymous poster written that he/she has a "MALEVOLENT SOURCE" ??
CAN YOU EVEN READ????
MALEVOLENT SOURCE???
Excerpts from posts from the Anonymous poster who Old Man claims has a "malevolent source" (these excerpts are all taken from posts on this very thread, that are available right here for your perusal.)
1. Excerpt one from Anonymous:
I was thinking of a post that appeared on this website many months ago from a reader who had gone to this man's website and starting typing something into the comments section. As she started typing she immediately felt a malevolent presence, who she felt was somehow "pleased" that she was looking at the website (I paraphrase, but that was the gist of the post). She immediately closed down the browser and prayed.
2. Comment about this excerpt from Old Man of the Ski:
While we're waiting for you to share more of what you know, maybe you could give us a hint about this apparently "malevolent" source you seem to trust so implicitly?
3. Respone to Old Man's comment from the anonymous poster:
Have my words got jumbled or what? When I said "malevolent presence" I was talking about spiritual oppression (exactly the same thing Cia W above was WARNING about the risk of when viewing Todd Bentley on Youtube, based on some stories she had heard).
Me (or anyone here) "trusting" such a presence - good grief, Old Man, you must be joking.
4. More LIES from Old Man of the Ski, in response to this comment:
The anon poster whom I am accused of "raking over the coals" has stated he has a "malevolent" source, whom he trusts implicitly, a source who so far, he will not name. That seems to be fine with you. In which case, good luck.
Everything I have written in this post can be confirmed be reading the very posts from which they are excerpted on this thread.
You can use the "Search" function on your keyboard and search for the word "malevolent" and you will see the original sources.
Old Man, your behavior is despicable and you owe everyone here an apology.
If you refuse to apologize, please cite exactly where ANYONE on this thread has claimed to have a "malevolent source" for ANYTHING.
I have been reading your posts for a long time, Old Man.
Are you an "infiltrator"? Yesterday, I would have said "No." (I'm not so sure today).
Are you a first class a**hole? Yes, based on what you have written on this thread, I am really beginning to think so.
Moriah Cowering Wind,
You're a sick pup, but you
already knew that.
Do you really think that ANYTHING
is shocking anymore? Between all
the punk bands and heavy-mental
bands and and all the death culture
floating around these days, do you
honestly think that anyone is shocked
or awed by you or your childish
need to be noticed?
You're lost but you're glad that you're
lost so it's not likely that you'll ever
be found.
Get over it.
NEVERTHELESS
Jesus Christ is the savior of the world
and he would save you if you want
him to and ask him to.
You're almost out of time.
Maryanne,
Welcome back! I hope you are feeling better and that your internet problems are levelling off.
Thanks for sharing your new research.
We are rooting for you and praying for you,dear.
ADDENDUM
What was ACTUALLY stated about Anonymous's "source"
What I have written is not from my intuition but comes from a very reliable source,whose judgment I trust completely in these matters, who warned me years ago exactly as I've written above.
Do you have people whose judgement you completely trust, Old Man?
Does the fact that you trust them make those people MALEVOLENT?
GET A GRIP.
WARNING TO CONSTANCE -- OLD MAN OF THE SKI
Constance,
Be careful with one of your posters here, "Old Man of the Ski."
As you can see from reviewing this thread, he is not trustworthy with regard to quoting people accurately, even when the original quotes are right in front of him..
I know you have met more than a few individuals like this in your travels, both from outside the Christian community and from inside it (including some "successful Christian authors").
I am very sorry to find myself typing this warning to you, but I feel obliged to do so.
You have taught me that "everyone deserves one kind warning" and that includes you.
Let's just say, based on what has transpired on this thread, I wouldn't want to be meeting Old Man and his pals for coffee near the Moody Bible Institute (LOL).
"Be careful out there," friend.
MARYANNE
The warning written above to Mrs. Cumbey is also intended for you since you correspond with Old Man of the Ski on email.
I worry that maybe you are too "open" and trusting with people sometimes.
Please read what Old Man has written here and take it on board.
You need to make your decisions but please look at all the information and keep it in mind.
May the peace of Our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
Oldmanoftheski
I just wonder if someone is using the Delphi techniques on you !
Thank you for what you brings.
Frances
To "Moriah - Conquering Wind" -- if you honestly think Creme hasn't been heard from since the early 80's, you haven't spent much time on the internet or in bookstores. He has issued a slew of new titles since then and there are 44,200 google hits on him. There are 195,000 Yahoo! hits on him! Wayne Peterson, a former diplomat and then Fulbright Scholarship Administrator is an activist for him.
Constance
Old Man of the Ski is not perfect, Dorothy is not perfect, Joyce is not perfect, and most certainly, I AM NOT PERFECT.
Old Man of the Ski has contributed much of value to this site. At times I have disagreed. Dorothy has contributed much of value to this site. At times I have disagreed. Joyce has contributed much of value to this site, at times I have disagreed. I like to think I have contributed much of value to this site. At times, some of you have disagreed.
There are not perfect blogspots and/or churches because there are no perfect people. With that being said, let's try being a little kinder to one another.
Respectfully,
CONSTANCE
Constance,
No one here has disputes that Old Man has contributed much to this blog.
I agree people here should be kinder to one another.
How does that rule apply to what Old Man has done on this thread?
Given that you are very fair, the same rules should apply to him.
It is all laid out in above in detail.
When you recount the detailed stores of how you have been misquoted, the facts are listened to and your stories are treated with respect.
I would hope that you would examine the evidence and do the same here instead of offering merely a conclusory "let's all get along."
I would like everyone here to get along. What Old Man has done here, however, is damaging and wrong. If he were to take responsibility for that and offer and apology, I am certain it would be accepted.
Add the name Rudi to your infernal "watch list" along with Oldmanoftheski, Joyce, Paul, Setterman, and on... and on...and on...and on...anyone here who has been "arrogant" enough to write their comments without preceding or concluding those comments with, apologies to any who might take offense. This has proved especially true should our comments be of a "religious" nature and not sufficiently reflect the all "inclusive" message insisted upon by the Alliance of Civilizations.
You take an uncomplicated, in all likelihood, easily resolved, blog comment made by Oldmanoftheski - made to an anonymous commenter, fan the flames a little,
and now take it upon your anonymous self, to start giving Constance anonymous warnings and anonymous advise on who she should watch out for??? You epitomize the word "busybody" and "troublemaker". Pretending to want peace, yet always stirring up smoldering embers. - Rudi
To Constsnce (4:20 PM):
I absolutely agree with you that we should all "try being a little kinder to one another."
That is the reason I jumped in to DEFEND the anonymous poster when I felt that "oldmanoftheski" was being unnecesssarily RUDE both last night and this morning.
We can all have a healthy debate with each other without tearing each other apart.
Here's an example in his post of 9:33 AM:
"I wondered how long it would be before your ilk came here . . ."
(as if that anonymous poster was a piece of trash or something).
His remark was absolutely uncalled for! And he also questioned the anonymous poster's sincerity and motives.
Then he ends his post with:
“When the wicked spring up like grass, And when all the workers of iniquity flourish, [It is] that they may be destroyed forever.” Ps 92:7
Also, there may be a very good reason why a poster needs to keep a source confidential, and that should be respected. That doesn't mean the post doesn't have validity.
Anonymous doesn't have to answer to "oldmanoftheski" - but just try telling HIM that.
Anyway, being KIND is a two-way street. There shouldn't be a double standard here.
Sorry, Constance - but I just needed to vent.
NOTE to "oldmanoftheski":
The anonymous posters are not one and the same person. There are at least two of us, probably more. So, please learn to deal with it.
I probably missed something -- sometimes I miss much -- please direct my attention to the evidence. What did "old man of the ski" allegedly do?
Constance
Dear Constance:
It all started near the top of this thread.
"Anonymous" posted a warning - making a point about "praying for spiritual protection" at 3:26 AM (Saturday morning).
It looks like "oldmanoftheski" posted his first response to that message at 1:35 PM that afternoon.
If you go back and read the posts, it will be easier for you to understand the unnecessary mocking and rude TONE that he took with "anonymous" - and I'm afraid it just deteriorated from there all the way through today (Sunday afternoon).
enough allready, sorry, but we could be seriously running the risk of learning something of extreme importance here if you all would kindly take the time to google project bluebeam and read google one and view other google you tubes of prjct bluebeam. i was hoping to get some feedback on this. its the armgdn script and then some...... or so it APPEARS!ozark
Listen folks, we had all better develop thick skins and PREPARE FOR MARGINALIZATION. It was prophesied and clearly it is coming. Therefore, if we can't take mild cynicism on this board, how will we ever survive real persecution.
Let's all grow up and think beyond this blogspot tempest in a teapot!
Constance
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Constance
Old Man
It occurred to me that you might think
I'm one of your attackers since I've
been referring to you as "Old Man"
all along, and so have one or more of
these wedge-drivers called you that.
Just for the record, I can't find a
single word you've said that should
have caused any offense.
These anonymi think that they're really
clever because they have no trouble
lieing and it's easy to drive in a wedge,
particularly when one is a jack***
to begin with.
These people hit below the belt.
They're cheap-shot specialists.
But having your waist girded with
Truth has a way of deflecting all
their underhanded, weak minded,
cowardly, hit and run tactics.
Dear Constance (1:01 AM)
While I am disappointed with your rather dismissive comments, I do want to thank you for taking up some of your valuable time to settle this -- even if you did provide "evidence" that your directive of "try being a little kinder to one another" doesn't necessarily apply to EVERY person on this blog.
However, I will move on and continue to post here, and submit articles of interest (along with their sources) as I have been doing for the past two years. I will also defend myself and others whenever needed.
Anyway, there are clearly major subjects of importance going on in the world -- so let's all move on.
-- From another "anonymous" poster
Until anon 3:26 reveals his mysterious source, we won't know one way or the other will we?
My guess is there's some type of loyalty oath getting in the way.
Paul,
We've both been duped into trying to refute "anonymous" posters. Would you agree with me that this is perhaps not the best use of our time?
Regular bloggers who choose a moniker or use their real names deserve respect. Even when we disagree or argue a bit, at least there's a track record showing consistent thought.
I've learned a valuable lesson this week, which is to have very little regard for anons.
WHO CARES!!!
People with strong opinions and very few facts to back up their opinions often use strong language in place of factual information. In the world outside of the computer they are known as blow hards.
Those who use a moniker to post here often act as if this blog is a private club rather than a website open to the public where people wander in and out. If Constance wants to let people post anonymously, it's her blog to make that decision. Not the decision of anyone with a nickname or a regular name.
This has been the most boring thread in a long time, probably a result of that largest full moon in 15 years. If anything would scare away that anonymous, it would be the threat of wasting time reading the drivel in this thread which only distracted from the information on the Wall Street Journal article on Maitreya.
Does anyone have more information on the Wall Street Journal piece? Or does doing actual research take too much effort when opinion takes only a fraction of that kind of time?
Dorothy
OLD MAN
It was pretty obvious that Anonymous 3:26 is someone to be ignored. Anyone who would come to a blog devoted to doing research on a topic and tell readers not to do research on an aspect of the topic without giving any factual reasons for the statement is either silly, has a low IQ or just wants to stir the pot. There are many comments posted almost every day that are ignored, and they may be posted by regulars or people who post anonymously.
Dorothy
RUDI
I went to the Wise USA and Gaiafields sites, but they didn't have a schedule that went into December. Is there a site you visit to get this information?
IMPORTANT:
While working through linkages to Wise USA and Gaiafields, I came across this planned February meeting. Do check out the sponsors, speakers, organizations, etc. for this meeting. Everything from Ron Paul to Barbara Marx Hubbard.
http://www.transpartisan.net/
Dorothy
To Dorothy & oldmanoftheski:
Just for the record: I can verify that anonymous (3:26 AM) did have a source for that information, that was posted near the top of this thread, but needed to keep that source confidential for personal reasons.
I'm sure that anonymous (3:26 AM) will never do that again - as it certainly wasn't worth all of the "pain and suffering" that was the end result.
LAST ANONYMOUS
An anonymous person vouches for an anonymous person who says they have an anonymous source. Go read my note to Paul on the Greek thread.
Dorothy
Dorothy:
We two "anonymous" posters happen to be good friends, who e-mail each other regularly, OK?
LAST ANONYMOUS
You've missed my point. Anyone who chooses to post as anonymous for whatever reason must understand that there are weaknesses to that method. If we are to concentrate on the information rather than the poster, then that information must be verifiable. Yes, it gives an extra burden to the poster. With all of the planned disinformation out there, only very foolish people would accept unverifiable information as valid. Too many people would be very willing to plant foolish rumors here to make everyone who fights the New Age movement look stupid.
Dorothy
According to the Dali Lama, Maitreya’s name means “Loving Kindness”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoTST0aB_M8
http://www.maitreyaproject.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya_Project
Wow is all I can say. The one thing that jumped out at me from all of the postings is the poster who wrote about being raptured out to keep us from being deceived. I truly believe that our God is a huge God and can protect His people, no matter what. Time and time again in the bible God has protected His people through trying times. Just because we are dealing with more technology now, doesn't mean He isn't up to the task. Just keep our nose in the bible and trust Him, no matter what we see about us.
Kathe from MI
I just read your book about a month ago and I have been telling everyone about it since. I'm glad to find a blog....
In this post you said that you had an idea as to who you think the Maitreya could be...could you post a link as to where I can read that information?
One of the most powerful statements you made in your book was that none of this is going to happen until the Lord allows it. You know, that is so right and reassuring...thanks
Yes,we must be on guard as never before.We all know about the messianic overtones and undertones in the recent election cycle.I looked around for that old photo of Maitreya and he had a beard so it was hard to connect him to you-know-who.But we will know when the time comes. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6054696301896752957&ei=-B9MSZqSL4OorwKo9cz6Cw&q=last+trumpet+ministries+profile&hl=en
Well, Rudi @ 5:11 pm,
Bravissimo!
I've been awhile for awhile but I can see I missed your latest performance.
You treat this blog like it's your personal private club. Anyone who says something with which you disagree is immediately ostracized and accused of utilizing the idealogies of the "Alliance of Civilizations."
When you stray off the topic of researching the New Age movement, you are like the head cheerleader in high school who enocourages the first-string football players to bully other students (science geeks, quiet kids, exchange students, "freaks and geeks," etc) who aren't members of your exclusive snotty little club of "popular kids."
I have to remind myself that you are a grown woman instead of a 15-year old bully with a learner's permit and the ability to perform backflips in a gym hall.
Looking forward to seeing more of your periodic mini-volcanic eruptions toward the "non-popular kids" at this blog.
I was wondering if Constance could answer my question about who she thinks the Maitreya is?
I am new to this blog and after reading all the contention on this blog, I'm wondering if I want to keep on?
Just some points for pondering, in Proverbs it says that "Only by pride cometh contention" and in James it says that "where envyings and strife is, there is confusion"....so my point is that let us stay focused on the true enemy so that we do not get confused as to what we must be doing. When Jesus was 12, he said he was "about his Father's business"...let us do the same.
I hope that I can be of value to this blog, but more importantly, I hope that I can learn from all of you.
Anyone who really knows and loves Jesus will know that He doesn't return via press release or TV interview. That said, so many do not know the one true God and will be fooled by a satanically inspired "sharing," which will only be a tyrannical form. With the economy going down the tubes, I would expect to hear talk about getting chipped. Pray for these souls and prepare for persecution in the form of being labeled as hate criminals. After all, who can be against "sharing?"
LIBERTY:
We should do nothing out of pride. Our God, is not the author of confusion. We must however contend for the faith. Especially in these last days, when confusion is increasing.
Jude 3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints
Shem1777- absolutely true. Pride is the enemy to all that is holy and righteous for pride goeth before destruction (Proverbs 16:18)
C.S Lewis in Mere Christianity said it best, "Pride gets no pleasure out of having something, only out of having more of it than the next man.....it is the camparison that makes you proud: the pleasure of being above the rest. Once the element of competition has gone, pride has gone"
That is why when we contend, not about the truth, but to be right. There is a difference in standing for truth and righteousnes by our actions and words. We can stand for truth by simply stating what the doctrine of Christ is and then humbly living it and allowing others to govern their own lives.
Agency was given to man in the begining of time. God will force no one to believe in him or serve him. So, when we use words of disrespect by name calling or making ourselves to be more superior in anyway, we fall into the grevious sin of pride.
I know that I have fallen many times into this trap.
Thank you for your thoughts and for the added scriptures that strengthen my resolve to shun contention, but stand firmly for the truth and allow the others to examine their own consience.
As for me, I really am looking for the answer to my earlier question...does anyone know what or whom she is talking about?
Liberty,
This thread is probably no longer being read by Constance, although the topic is still being discussed.
I suggest you put a post at the newest thread at the top of the blog, directing them back down here to your question.
After sending this to my brother I got the following response from him. Could someone please verify if this is a real Marketwatch post we are discussing or just what he says it is ?
"I did some basic research on the PR (press release)this morning. It was released by PRNewswire. Anyone can post a press release for free on PRNewswire, even you or I.
However, I researched the WSJ archives and there is no record of this PR ever being published by the WSJ. It’s common practice in blogs to post a reference to the source for published works, so folks like me can do their homework. The link in the blog actually points to Marketwatch.com as it was posted in the only blog that spoke of the press release. (http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/?s=creme) Marketwatch automatically posted the PR because it contains the words “share” and “international”, not because of its importance(??). According to Technorati, the PR wasn’t picked up by anyone else.
This guy is a clown and a fraud, nothing more than a street-corner fool standing up and saying he is the Messiah. File under IGNORE.
People need to really think for themselves.
Whether people accept this idea that such a teacher could be amongs us is not for me to convince or argue. I just hope each person would stop, breath deeply and actually think for themselves. Please, stop believing "authorities" and people of influence just because of who they are. These so-called "experts" are often mis-leading idiots, driven by personal desire for fame, money, or power.
Sorry I'm new...Who does Constance think Maitreya is, if that question is allowed?
"The tree is known by its fruit".
It is known that Maitreya has already inspired many leaders and ordinary people to demand more justice and positive cooperation in our political and economic spheres - to save the millions dying in hunger and poverty and to put human welfare above excessive profit making, in terms of priorities.
I find it odd when Christians attack him as a false christ, yet don't relate it to modern day problems. Maybe we will accidently listen to such a teacher, but in being decieved we will create a better world of balance and peace (and adhere to the original teachings of Christ 2,000 yrs ago), save the poor and the plant's environment. But, they say, we will have been "mis-lead"???
Is this really such a terrible thing to aim for?...to eliminate the need for war and to create a more secure and brighter future for our children. The narrow-minded, fundamentalist Christians will have some tough internal admissions to deal with as this plays out. But I hope they recognize Him sooner or later, even if He doesn't fit into their old, crystalized beliefs which include many mis-interpretations of the Bible.
Maybe it helps to know, I was raised for many years in the Catholic church and studied the Bible with fundamentalist christians, but now find truth and similarities in all the great spiritual traditions.
Let's just watch, wait, and keep an open mind...
I wonder if this planery anamolie is what Creme is referring to:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20081230/sc_space/celestialshowsetfornewyearseve;_ylt=ApATISxRBO4te_CdD2v6g9sazJV4
There is newer version of this which appeared in Yahoo news last week: http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20090126/pl_usnw/bright_star_heralds_appearance_of_world_teacher;_ylt=As226Kjk832kW8hMkH0Nt07Zn414
So what do you think of these photos of the miracle that are now posted on their site: http://www.shareintl.org/maitreya/Ma_starsign.htm#Anchor-Pictures-49575
A new star has appeared in the sky. (In our advanced age of technology this could be a man made device/satellite etc?) I have noticed it and so have my friends and co-workers. I would take this very seriously. Something Constance didn't say is that when the real Christ does appear to all the world he will descend from heaven. His first public appearance is not scheduled to be an American TV slot. Maitreya does have a sidekick, the Master Jesus, who allegedly lives in the Vatican.
As to the person who says that Benjamin Creme hasn't been heard of since the eighties...you are very out of touch my friend. The whole New Age/One World/Theosophical movement is geared to the appearance of this World Teacher - Maitreya. Creme makes regular public appearances where he is usually 'overshadowed' by Maitreya and there has been an increase recently in the news updates on the Share website. In the current issue he even mentions the lord of the world - sanat kumara!! The time has come to stand up and be counted
Constance, Obama is Maitreya.
READ the PROOF here:
Obama Maitreya
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Someone said this on this board: " Maitreya does have a sidekick, the Master Jesus, who allegedly lives in the Vatican."
I find this interesting because, if Maitreya is the Antichrist, this Master Jesus in Rome will obviously help him out with the backing of the full support of the Catholic church. Here is some thoughts and informations I think could bring some additional light to the coming prophecy developments.
A Vatican spokeman by the name of Father Balducci said that UFO's, (you can find Maitreya related to UFO's)are real but peoples disagree on who they are. His opinions is interesting when he said that he does NOT believe they are some "demonic manifestations".
We can agree to disagree, but after lot of researches I have come to the conclusion that they are demonic deceptions and will be used to help Maitreya gain worldwide acceptance.
The problem with this scientific and technological days and age we live in is that, most of the peoples have rejected the reality of the existence of Satan and his demons. What a field day to seduce these peoples that UFO's beings are advanced antities from other planets,etc. Being advanced over us they would obviously know more than us.
Also, if we are in a mess at many levels, it is normal that it will be tempting to listen to what they would have to say about the solutions to theses problems we are facing. As far as this Maitreya, they have clearly specified in there site of share international that when the economical crise will be close to a crash, Maitreya will appear on a US Network to give us his "sharing for justice" solution for mankind.
This appearing they say, will be preceeded by about a week by a star in the sky visible day or night. Why I bring this UFO infos from Father Balducci is because it is obvious that since he does not see the UFO's as demonic manifestation, he and the Catholic Church could be ready to accept this Master Jesus who is this "sidekick" mentioned above.
Now, I could be wrong about UFO - demonic link but, just suppose I am right, the Catholic Church could be used as a tool by this Master Jesus to try to seduce if it was possible the very elects. What is interesting about this is that the divinity of Jesus have been a stumbling block for the unity of all three major Monotheist religions, Judaism, Islam and Christianism.
Now, what if this Syrian Master Jesus in Rome start to do some miracles to prove that he is the real Jesus. Could the apostacy be that Christiandom would be convinced to abandoned the divinity doctrine to please the other Monotheists. That could bring a big unity for sure.
What if this Master Jesus with his miracles start to say that he is just a prophet and that the Godhood has been attained by Maitreya. This Master Jesus could very well be the False prophet of revelation who has two horns like a lamb but spake as a dragon.
We know the dragon is Satan, so quest how much power this Master Jesus could have when he make fire come from the sky. If this Master Jesus can seduce the Catholic Church, will it be strange afterward that he use is Satan power to bring mankind to accept Maitreya as the real and full God. The Catholic church will not need any pope if Jesus is there. Also, this present pope is quite old and obviously is too conservative to reject Jesus' divinity.
Now, some have said that christians are picky to be against someone like MAITREYA that after all only want to bring love, sharing, justice and peace to the world. They have not done a very good research because, this is just the surface. If you search you can easily find that even though they say he is just a "teacher" and do not bring religion, he REALLY has a religion which is the New Age belief that we are all God.
Those who know about the luciferian gospel that this organisation preaches, know that there is a religious background. Their site even dare say that he will not come as "The Christ" first in order to not bring divisions. He come as a modest "teacher" first but, wait till he declare what many already know. At the right time he will declare more when the public opinions will be ready.
For now, they think that it is hard to be against a simple teacher who want to help mankind on global solutions. Christians are not against justice, love, environment equilibrium, peace, etc. But, when these things are brought by a clever organisation who has a religious secret agenda to bring mankind into the "Christ Consciousness" initiation, the red light should come on.
The present pope is going in the middle east soon and he will visit two interesting sites. He will visit the "dome of the rock" and the "wall of Lamentations". It is obvious for those who have read a bit that, if Jesus was just a prophet, the other monotheists will have no problem with him. What if the scenario is that this friend of Maitreya in Rome convince peoples that yes UFO's are advanced being and the most advanced is Maitreya.
What if he does great miracles to prove that he is the real Jesus and by doing so convince a lot of people that Maitreya is God and should be worship. We know that everybody is God in their religion, but this Maitreya is already there. For us it could take a couples, maybe thousand more reincarnations, you get the point.
At their site they say that Maitreya is a higher degree initiate than this Master Jesus. A lot of things should be obvious to Biblical Christians. The main ones being that, the real Jesus IS God, being the eternal Son of God, the second person of the Holy Trinity. Also that whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ has the spirit of the antichrist. For share International Maitreya and Jesus are two separate individuals.
This Maitreya call himself " the Christ" even though they don't want to be reject like they were in 1982 and so, they just talk about "teacher" for now.
A second thing to notice is that the real Jesus will come with great power and glory "in the air" and descend on the mount of Olive. Now, what a difference than appearing "on the air" and coming down at the CNN station or another one.
It is clear that it is time to make sure that you have the real Jesus as saviour and that you are ready to die for him (Rev. when the antichrist reign for 42 months. Unless you have been brainwash to think that you gone a be rapture before the antichrist appear. But, this is a different story.
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