Did I Invent the New Age Movement? If so, I could surely make it go away! Ugly opposition from unexpected quarters to my long term labors
I once had a little respect for what I sometimes had opportunities to read from End Times Prophecy Report. No more! It is evidently edited/authored by one Jeremiah J. Jameson. Also listed as co-writers are an Elaine and Mondo Frazier. I've, to the best of my knowledge never met them nor otherwise heard from them. Those of you attempting to reach me know that I answer my phones and am, if able, willing to talk. I've spent most of my resources doing this work over the past 36 years (since discovering the subject in early 1981) and have refrained from begging or passing the hat for my work. I've refused to commercialize my work nor turn it into a cheap "ministry." I've shared my documentation freely with those who asked.
I've occasionally looked at End Times Prophecy Report. Today, I found something there that greatly saddened me. I reproduce it below as written. If they want to claim a copyright on their libelous piece, tough break. I claim fair use of the material.
Here it is:
THERE’S MORE THAN ONE WAY TO PROMOTE THE NEW AGESo, I invented the New Age Movement? I wish I had -- if so, I could surely make it go away! I do not know if Mr. Jameson reached this conclusion on his own, if he listened to "Queeny Cameron" tapes. I will trust God to defend my work. I also trust those reading it fairly to do so.NEW AGE END TIMES PERSECUTION: The Rider of the Pale Horse?
Constance Cumbey has made a name for herself as an investigative writer whose claim to fame is exposing the secrets of the New Age. However, those who carefully read Cumbey immediately realize she offers something besides revelations of the New Agers–a great deal more.
Cumbey is a spinner of narratives for the same forces she purports to expose, either wittingly or not.
In her book, The Staging of the New Age Messiah, Ms. Cumbey went to a great deal of trouble to set up her narrative of a New Age conspiracy which is feverishly working to bring about a “messiah” the Bible calls the “man of sin.” She includes her reasons why this conspiracy should want to help fulfill the Bible’s prophecy–and make no mistake: there is a conspiracy. The Bible speaks of it; and, this cabal does ceaselessly labor to bring about the fulfillment of end times prophecy.
However, any reader hoping to get to the bottom of end times questions by consulting Cumbey will find the truth elusive at best. Cumbey weaves her narrative tapestry using strands of psychology, conspiracy, self-fulfilling prophecy and more importantly, the words of the New Age gurus themselves.
Which brings up a question.
How does one go about convincing the reader that the New Age is the epitome of deception (it is) while at the same time offering the reader what the New Age has publicly declared?
That’s the schtick of Constance Cumbey: trust me because I have the truth on the New Age from the lying mouths of the deceptive New Agers themselves. It’s a recipe for more deception and that’s what the reader is in for. Nevertheless, she still leaves out a great deal and what she doesn’t leave out, she conceals behind her narrative wall.
Exactly who desires the appearance of the man of sin, for what purposes and what the Bible says about it all, is covered in her noxious smog of yarns, cunningly devised fables and cleverly-constructed counterfeits. Those who take what she has written at face value will come away convinced that the New Age is a dangerous crew. And while that may be true on the surface, the New Age is NOT the mystery of iniquity but only a small cog in its great machinery of deception.
Again, the New Age is dangerous.
For a counterfeit.
“For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:”—2 Thessalonians 2:7One only has to remember that if the New Age did not exist, it would have to be invented by the mystery of iniquity. One also should keep in mind that once invented, the dangers of the New Age would have to be promoted.
Enter one Constance Cumbey, who has performed yeoman’s work in that regard.
Cumbey does give the reader some useful information–if the reader is able to extract such information from the narratives the author has used to frame it. One example is the following quote by New Ager, Peter LeMesurier.
“The new mission to the youth of the world, then, will be an international movement dedicated to spreading the already developing ideas and values upon which the New Age is to be founded.”This info is useful because the “new mission to the youth of the world” is a priority goal of the Dominionist strands of pseudo-Christianity which the mystery of iniquity depends upon to help introduce its “messiah.” Readers can see this developing in front of their eyes. It is not the New Age which is accomplishing this but the cults of Dominionism (including the New Apostolic Reformation and the International House of Prayer). By a great coincidence, the programs and ideas of these pseudo-Christian cults and those of the New Age are nearly identical.
Again, if the New Age did not exist, the mystery of iniquity would have had to invent it.
Cumbey devotes thousands of words to what the New Age has to say but precious few on what the Bible says on the same subject. For instance, she studiously avoids answering the logical questions: WHO is it that is interested in a coming Messiah? WHO does the Bible say is interested? WHO is it that desires a man (of sin) who will usher in a worldly kingdom? The reader will find none of these or other pertinent end times questions answered by the cunningly devised fables of Constance Cumbey.
One may read Cumbey for entertainment value without much harm. However, the reader of her work will be further from the truth after reading her spin on most of the topics she covers.
Our advice is the advice of Jesus, paraphrased.
“Take heed that Constance Cumbey does not deceive you.”
I knew I would take persecution for the work I've done and over the years, I've taken much. Some is more painful than others. This one hurts! If he did it for honest motive, I forgive him. Otherwise, may the Lord rebuke him.
Stay tuned, but hopefully not to Mr. Jameson's station!
CONSTANCE
I've just received a link to a work by inventor/billionaire Elon Musk that has obvious prophetic implications. This is also one I wish I could make go away. I thank the person who sent it. She knows who she is!
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Constance
Elon Musk's latest project:
ReplyDeleteTesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk is setting his sights on something new: "neural lace" technology, which involves implanting tiny electrodes into the brain that could one day help humans function at a higher level.
His new company, Neuralink, will pursue developing these cranial computers, which at first would most likely be used to treat people with brain disorders like epilepsy and major depression. While Musk would not comment to The Wall Street Journal about Neuralink, several people with information about the company said he is actively setting it up and could have a significant leadership role. Musk has said it's important for humanity to not be left behind as advances are made in artificial intelligence. Catherine Garcia
From: http://theweek.com/speedreads/688711/elon-musk-launch-startup-aiming-develop-cranial-computers
or https://tinyurl.com/nyl2loj
Constance
ttps://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-launches-neuralink-to-connect-brains-with-computers-1490642652 Linked at Drudge
ReplyDeletettps://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-launches-neuralink-to-connect-brains-with-computers-1490642652 Linked at Drudge All Transhumanism. New Age.
ReplyDeleteConstance,
ReplyDeleteThank you for staying on task in spite of opposition that is coming from (supposedly) the "exposing the New Age" camp. The "friendly fire" aims to downgrade your work of these decades to upgrade their own perhaps? Their critiques only affirm what you have and are doing is right!
God bless you personally, your family, your practice, and your work of years that produced your books and this blog. I've learned a good number of things here at your place for just about 5 years now.
Yours is a name I trust for good information about this slippery, slimey, pervasive topic of the New Age. May you stay encouraged in the fight, enabled by wisdom and strength from the Lord.
The New Age is certainly unashamed of itself these days, and coming out of the woodwork (such as Musk's work and the works of many others that are exposed here). The world, at large, seems very nearly ready for what they are peddling.
But some aren't buying.
Again, thank you for your part in shedding light on the evil that is afoot.
The above propaganda says: Cumbey does give the reader some useful information–if the reader is able to extract such information from the narratives the author has used to frame it. One example is the following quote by New Ager, Peter LeMesurier. “The new mission to the youth of the world, then, will be an international movement dedicated to spreading the already developing ideas and values upon which the New Age is to be founded.” This info is useful because the “new mission to the youth of the world” is a priority goal of the Dominionist strands of pseudo-Christianity which the mystery of iniquity depends upon to help introduce its “messiah.” Readers can see this developing in front of their eyes. It is not the New Age which is accomplishing this but the cults of Dominionism (including the New Apostolic Reformation and the International House of Prayer). By a great coincidence, the programs and ideas of these pseudo-Christian cults and those of the New Age are nearly identical.
ReplyDeleteThe pseudo-Christian cults believe in and teach that "original sin" actually occurred, and that it occurred around 6,000 years ago, and that it caused the creation, which was originally pure (meaning animals and humans were vegetarians and did not suffer in any way, nor did they die) and that this earth that we are living on today will be restored back to its original purity ("the lion [once again] shall eat straw like the ox") and that saved humans will be physically resurrected (having flesh and blood bodies) and will live on the restored "paradise earth" forever.
This totally anti-science belief and teaching is why the "great falling away" is happening in Europe today and will soon be coming to America. New Agers to not believe in this ridiculous anti-science theology. Therefore, the New Age movement will produce the end-time "anti-Christ" messiah.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/1/12/1357344/-Empty-Churches-Go-On-Sale-in-Europe-as-Christian-Faith-Declines
Constance,
ReplyDeleteSorry that Mr. Jameson has severely misunderstood your work. Perhaps he hadn’t read your first book, or seen the copy of the full page newspaper ad on the back, which explains why the New Agers want a false messiah. Even still, I don’t see how he can read the 2nd book and come away with the views put forth in that article.
I trust Constance!!
ReplyDelete"The pseudo-Christian cults"
ReplyDeleteYes, there is much of that out there, sad to say.
The real thing has always had it's knock-offs.
So what you tout and promote here takes nothing away from the real Christians who know their God, and His word, the Bible. It's them, and the God they know, Jesus Christ is Lord to the exclusion of all else, that is stuck in your craw, and why you keep puking out your redundant, ridiculous posts.
Your psyche, your heart, soul, and your life, needs to be healed.
Jesus, the Real One, can do that for you.
Anonymous 10:44 Just in case you haven't looked at other research on New Age, here's some information. One of the most informative and well documented books is False Dawn by Lee Penn. You can read Penn's book freely at https://archive.org/details/FalseDawnByLeePenn The huge book is just on infiltration on the religious side. The political side is as complex. Here's an article he just shared on Facebook. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/mar/25/animal-life-is-over-machine-life-has-begun-road-to-immortality. That's part of transhumanism which is part of the New Age.
ReplyDeleteThere has been a very concerted effort to keep the topic away from the public. Who is behind that I don't know. In the first fifteen years of her sharing information when Constance appeared as a speaker and was guested on many radio and television stations, the infiltrated Christian community threw out a huge number of disinformation books meant to distract interested Christians from factual information. Academic books mentioning New Age concentrated on the new religion part of New Age in neutral ways, ignoring the political side. They slammed her and put her research in with the disinformation books. A very few solid researchers worked openly on the topic, but they tended to do so on their own, so no body of solid research was ever developed. Each researcher wanted to be heard and not to just refer to someone else. Since there was no community, almost all dropped away in the years since and no cohesive body of information was developed. The internet opened the floodgates and more disinformation has been spread by those who wish to keep others away from solid information about the movement. If you search hard, you can still find some of the good researchers.
The attacks on those who have done research on the New Age movement and have been publicly attacked would make a fascinating book
Thanks, 12:01 PM.
ReplyDeleteI agree there are two sides to the coin.
"Each researcher wanted to be heard and not to just refer to someone else. Since there was no community, almost all dropped away in the years since and no cohesive body of information"....
"If you search hard, you can still find some of the good researchers."
And I agree with you about these points you're making too.
"The symbolism of EU leaders gathering among the ruins of the ancient Roman empire could not be more telling, as the union struggles to renew itself in the face of rising populism, nationalism, the shock of Brexit, the US’s increasingly unpredictable policy, and renewed Russian threats."
ReplyDeletehttps://euobserver.com/institutional/13737
Constance, in the face of opposition, one only needs to look up?
ReplyDeleteMaybe the Constance should investigate the inquisition-er?
Possibly the End Times Prophecy Report is unaware that the NA religion is the glue that holds all of their hyper story book together, but refuses to admit it?
I would contend that the NAR, in particular Mark Chironna is a key player into mainstreaming the NA religion.
Chironna attempts successfully to take New Age theology and ‘Christianize’ it, thereby sanctifying it? Chironna once traveled the NA circuit with Barbara Marx Hubbard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e5oAexhQ4o
The whole show is on the following video below, starting at 30 minutes.
http://www.god.tv/piercing-the-darkness-prophetic-conference/if-it-wants-to-happen-it-needs-to-be-spoken
In any case you must be doing quite a service to be attacked? I'd consider it one of those badges, when applied often prick and jab you!
" Blessed are you when men shall revile you and persecute you and say all manner of evil against you, falsely for my sake. Rejoice and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven; for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you."
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I only wish I knew what their motives were. I am convinced I was professionally spied upon over the years and those spying me out successfully penetrated our networks, virtually shutting me out of most of my own work and successfully identifying most of the opposition. I am further of the opinion that the spying, if it existed, came from the auspices and financing of those connected with the Fellowship Foundation a/k/a International Foundation, a/k/a "The Family", a/k/a International Christian Leadership out of Washington, D.C. I would not be surprised if the writer of the piece I posted above had been influenced by those. He was not so far from reality and perhaps right for some of the wrong reasons when he also attacked the Discernment Ministries -- some of which are part of the problem as I now reluctantly see it.
ReplyDeleteConstance
"In what the Orthodox Christian Network calls an "alarming trend," The Wall Street Journal featured a page one article ... – Europe’s Empty Churches Go on Sale as the number of attendees has diminished over many years."
ReplyDelete"The Catholic Church predicts that [in the Netherlands] two-thirds of its churches will be retired from holy service within a decade and 700 Protestant churches are expected to be decommissioned within four years."
"While the U.S. has avoided a similar wave of church closings for now, recent trends lead religious researchers to say the country could face the same problem in coming years."
"Every piece of social data suggests that those who favor [the Christian] faith and [Christian] superstition over fact-based evidence [or over, scientific discoveries that contradict Bible scriptures and essential Christian doctrines based on them] will become the minority in this country..."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/1/12/1357344/-Empty-Churches-Go-On-Sale-in-Europe-as-Christian-Faith-Declines
TD, you need to do a better job in spreading your New Age faith and superstition, sourcing it correctly. The line "Every piece of social data suggests that those who favor [the Christian] faith and [Christian] superstition .." you put in quote marks and added your own words came from http://www.salon.com/2014/03/25/calling_the_christian_right_soon_you_will_be_outnumbered_partner/ with the title "Atheists have their number: How the Christian right is hastening religion’s decline"
ReplyDeleteYes, there is a decline in numbers of religious groups other than that of the Islamic and Orthodox Jews. There has also been a major decline in New Age and their offshoot Afrocentric bookstores. Both the former groups focus on a need for morality. Other religious groups are declining not because of the Christian right, but because of their emphasis on social justice where the government already runs the show. Who has time for duplicates. The failing religious groups were pushed to support the government in its aims. Don't you know anything about the New Age movement outside of your faith in it and acceptance of its superstitions. New Age gobbledegook has already been gobbled up by NGOs in the context of what they said would happen: the new religion is to be tied to a belief in science.
There is a new trend happening as reported in Pomerantsev's book in Russia. Christianity is being trivialized and pushed as another means of government control of the masses. That just might happen here in the US. Do keep an eye on it.
Constance, you wrote, "...and those spying me out successfully penetrated our networks,.." "our networks?" As there is no network of New Age researchers, you must be referring to a network of what others have called Christian fundamentalists, or believers in basic Christianity. Please clarify.
ReplyDeleteSalon says its article originally appeared at Alternet. I don't have time to find the specific piece, but this is the kind of reporting that leftist site does on religion. http://www.bing.com/search?q=alternet+churches&go=Submit&qs=ds&form=QBLH
ReplyDelete12:01 PM
ReplyDelete"A very few solid researchers worked openly on the topic, but they tended to do so on their own, so no body of solid research was ever developed. Each researcher wanted to be heard and not to just refer to someone else. Since there was no community, almost all dropped away in the years since and no cohesive body of information was developed."
I think this is an accurate description of the lack of a good published overview of what's going on.
And really, isn't it almost an impossible task, to try and tie everything together into one volume?
It's like the fable of the 6 blind men describing an elephant. Each one feels a different part of the elephant, and therefore describes the elephant differently, so you have to take each person's "telling" and add them together to get the big picture.
Constance's part has been and is important, but it is only part of the whole.
I am looking forward to Carl Teichrib's new book, which I think brings into the picture the transhumanism / technocracy angles, among others.
I have tried focusing on the political / worldwide socialist revolution angle, and how Environmentalism / Agenda 21 / GreenCross International / etc. is the next phase of -- to use Christopher Story's phrase -- "Lenin's Satanic Worldwide Revolution". "Green is the new Red", etc. The goals of all of those are quite often intertwined with the goals of the New Agers, and it's challenging to figure out exactly in what ways they are aligned, and in what ways they aren't. It's not a complete alignment, but the goals are the same - create a perfect world, having rejected the current one. A new Tower of Babel. And by "reject" I mean "destroy" - both the religious and philosophical foundations of the current world and those who "cling" to them.
Since it's a loosely-defined, worldwide network with all of these nexuses and cross purposes and goals, it's like the Master Plan has all these built-in redundancies and different paths to the same goal, which makes it next to impossible to derail. One arena might suffer defeat, but overall progress toward the final goal still proceeds along other paths.
Yes Marko, many have covered these areas and shared our information on this blog over the years. My experience says it does no good. Teichrib charges and he has a good following because of his making Christianity a major part of his research. You did a nice job of covering many parts of what is going on, but that should only indicate how many known researchers there should be in this field. The research on New Age can be connected with Christianity, but so could the research on communism. Yet there is a whole body of research on communism that is not completely tied to Christianity. New Age can and should be covered in such a way. People who become interested in New Age should be able to say: Read R's work on the history; Read S's works on the environment; Read T's work on the antisemitism connection; Read U's work on the tie to the League of Nations and the UN; Read V's information on the tie to the occult; Read what W has to say about the connection with Eastern Religions; Read X to learn about why it is opposed to Christianity; Read Y to see the international spread of New Age; Read Z to see what New Agers are saying now; Read what is happening politically in the US. And each person could be referring to the authority in that other field. This never happened and it's why the topic has no respect in the academic community. Who in the heck wants to take seriously a bunch of anonymous people.
ReplyDeleteNow it seems to be another thing that has happened is diversion. When someone starts to share information about a particular part of New Age we see Nothing Happening Over There. Read this as it's more important. No, the New Topic is about.... Ignore what was written before. New readers of the comments at this blog are mentally jerked all over the place, some times I think on purpose to discourage research into what is the New Age movement. I have no idea how or if this can be solved at this late date.
Anonymous 9:37 AM: The article that I quoted is entitled Europe’s Empty Churches Go on Sale. The article is about multitudes of Christians leaving their faith. In the quote: "The Catholic Church predicts that [in the Netherlands] two-thirds of its churches will be retired from holy service within a decade and 700 Protestant churches are expected to be decommissioned within four years." I added the worlds [in the Netherlands] to inform the readers that the quote was referring to the Netherlands and not to all of Europe. In the quote "Every piece of social data suggests that those who favor faith and superstition" I added the words [the Christian] faith to clarify that the faith that the article was referring to was virtually the Christian faith. The article says: "...but it is mostly Christians who are losing their faith. Several other religions have not experienced the same decline. Orthodox Judaism has remained relatively steady and primarily because of immigration, Islam has actually grown." The article did not even mention any other faith that had declined in population.
ReplyDeleteYou do not seem to get it, multitudes of Christians are leaving their faith because new scientific discoveries contradict Bible scriptures that essential Christian doctrines are based on. And New Age Gnostic "Christianity is compatible with modern day science. Where is your evidence that contradicts this statement of mine.
"Who in the heck wants to take seriously a bunch of anonymous people."
ReplyDeleteThat is why there needs to be (as a first step) a serious discussion forum somewhere that is set up for the purpose of sharing research and discussing it - pretty much like what we do here already, only with many more advantages, and fewer disadvantages: better moderation, ease of anonymous contact between forum members, and a way to categorize information for starters. It would be easier to follow certain topics or threads that you are interested in, and ignore others. I'd be willing to bet that most of you have been to discussion boards before or belong to one or more, so you know what I'm talking about.
The comments section of someone's blog on blogspot is really not the place to do this. That might mean giving up some measure of anonymity to the person running the discussion board (and *only* that person), but that is a small price to pay for being part of something larger than yourself. That's how I look at it anyway.
If I had more time, I'd also want to spend time putting together a "visual database" of links like David Horowitz created over at discoverthenetworks.org. Or, use a free online tool like this one:
http://www.nndb.com/
I wonder if this link works for others.... it's a glimpse at what this tool is capable of:
http://mapper.nndb.com/start/?id=23347
Marko, I wish I could agree with the possibility you describe. I think the time is over for any kind of resistance now that Trump is in office. Anything the few could do to share the truth would be monitored and infiltrated. Too much time has been wasted. The public has been sold on what might be called "alternate truth" by many who were trusted. I really don't know what I want to do or can do. I would again suggest the Pomerantsev material be looked at what is happening in the US.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.businessinsider.com/since-trump-won-the-election-us-citizens-are-hiding-from-the-internet-2017-3
You can keep the faith. You are younger.
To Thomas Dahlheimer,
ReplyDeleteYour post just above about churches closing in Europe, etc. might not be a surprise to you if you were familiar with Scripture. You might want to dust off your Bible, should you have one and ask God to show you what is of Him and what is not. The books of Daniel, Revelation, and in particular 2nd Thessalonians, Chapter 2 might explain much. From Daniel, chapter 7:
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
Further, also from later verses in the Daniel passage. Here I use the KJV, but you could use other translations as well:
Continued to Thomas Dahlheimer,
ReplyDeleteI exceeded my quota of 4096 characters for the last comment to you, and I am continuing with that here.
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21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. [that's 3.5 years! per this prophecy]
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
Keep that passage in mind with an open mind, particularly knowing that it is approximately 2500 years old or so.
Then, as to the churches closing, pre many of these events, bear in mind Jesus' words to his disciples (Matthew 24, etc) that many "would fall away and betray one another" and that the followers then would be hated.
Then, read II Thessalonians that warns that the gathering to God would not take place prior to events of the "falling away" (in the Greek, apostasia (apostasy) took place first.
Continued in next comment to you.
CONSTANCE
So, it is not so remarkable for your side that Churches might be closing and/or diminishing. It was clearly prophesied that this would happen before the end of time (or of "the age" as your community might express it.
ReplyDeleteWhat I had noticed about the New Age Movement since I started observing it in 1981 was that its aspirations and goals were very much mirror image opposites of what Scripture claimed. Virtually every thing Scripture told us to watch for was on the list of things to be done in the New Age Movement. The warned against spiritual (occult) practices popular in both ancient and current New Age circles are listed in Deuteronomy chapter 18.
I'll have to continue this in a subsequent post, but I want you to consider this carefully and yes, prayerfully. You see these things happening and yes, they are happening, but this does not constitute "truth" for your present apparent interpretation. It is strong evidence that the Scripture gives fair and honest warning.
Yes, there is, so to say, a controversy between Jesus and Lucifer aka Satan aka "The Serpent". I wish you had been in the audience when Benjamin Creme spoke to a packed Unity Church auditorium in Detroit, Michigan on November 4, 1981. He was confidently speaking of events he told his audience were in their immediate future. He led the audience in the recitation of THE GREAT INVOCATION that I'm sure you have often heard recited at New Age events you may have attended. I spoke over the audience with "The Lord's Prayer" with each and every stanza. When Creme got to the part of "may it seal the door where evil dwells" (referring to enemies of "the Plan"), I loudly said instead (and the acoustics were wonderful in that hall) MAY JESUS CHRIST RETURN TO EARTH AND END THE EVIL PRESENT IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT."
Strangest thing happened or didn't happen. Benjamin Creme had promised his audience he would have a transmission for them that night directly from "Maitreya the Christ" at the conclusion of their recitation of THE GREAT INVOCATION. It didn't happen! He waited and waited and it never came over him. That was "spookier" to me than the other strange events of that evening. If Creme had been faking it, he could have said anything and the audience would not have known. Creme was honestly waiting for the thing obviously possessing hin to speak. My interpretation: The name of Jesus Christ is feared by the spirits Creme was trying to invoke. Creme dismissed his disappointed audience saying "that is all, you are dismissed.
Consider this a friendly warning not to be on the wrong side of this obvious divide.
Sleepless in Michigan,
CONSTANCE
To 9:41
ReplyDeleteContrary to what you say, there indeed have been informal networks of those researching the New Age Movement. People hearing and people coming out of the New Age did work actively in so many places to research for themselves and warn others. Those networks were, in my opinion, scoped out and penetrated.
Constance
To 11:46,
ReplyDeleteThere is absolutely no substitute for knowing the entirety of Scripture for understanding the New Age Movement. The New Age thing did not jump out at me until I had read the Bible from front to back in its entirety.
Constance
Organizations can be relatively easily taken over by those with differing agendas. I have enough political experience to know this from personal observation. That is a major reason I did not start one.
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I love it when you come on over and take command at your own blog, Constance Cumbey.
ReplyDeleteYou may have been sleepless with all that on your heart to post here, but wide awake with good reason, as those were very well said words in reply to Thomas Dahlheimer!
And the true words of your post at 5:26 AM sums all up grandly!
Now I pray you get some well deserved rest :)
The UK gives notice of its quitting to the European Union! In two years time at most the UK will be out of the EU.
ReplyDelete"Contrary to what you say, there indeed have been informal networks of those researching the New Age Movement. People hearing and people coming out of the New Age did work actively in so many places to research for themselves and warn others. Those networks were, in my opinion, scoped out and penetrated."
ReplyDeleteConstance, could you give some factual information about the networks that you say existed? You used the word "our" so I presume you have that kind of information. However, the description "informal" covers a lot of territory, and can mean from two people on. I doubt The Family would have cared about a very small group of people, caring enough to penetrate such a thing. The word "network" suggests a much larger operation as used with computers. "A system of computers that are joined together so that they can communicate by exchanging information and sharing resources." The word network was in use before it described a grouping of computers, and probably was used because of the connection between a group of a larger number.
I know this is your blog, and you don't have to answer questions. Since the history of resistance to the New Age movement is important, how would you answer the question. And if there was such penetration, what was the result on the individuals in the network. As someone who by name leads all opposition to New Age, your views on the topic are important.
Constance, why do you think Dahlheimer posts here so continuously? Dahlheimer, why do you post here so continuously? The only response he continuously gets is being told to convert. Is it possible he is working to teach what the New Age movement is from the New Age point of view? I would hope that others would tell him why what he believes is not factually accurate and is dangerous. That is what fighting the New Age movement is about I think.
ReplyDeleteDahlheimer has been addressed directly about what is wrong with his worldview, his New Age beliefs. Different people and different approaches to answer him back, and now, Constance herself.
ReplyDeleteSince you're asking them why, why haven't you noticed the answers that called him to task that have countered the poorly made points he has written, 1:02 PM?
Constance,
ReplyDelete12:35 raises some of the same questions I had after reading that your 5:20 AM comment. I would find it interesting at least to know the story of who was scoped out, by whom, and what was the result. A revealing of the tactics used by the infiltrators would possibly be instructive to your readers on what to watch out for, not only as we fight the New Age, but as we fight deception in general.
Anonymous 1:26 Dahlheimer has been told over and over to convert because Christianity is the true religion, this along with quotations from the Bible. It's obvious he isn't going to do this. He is as firm in his beliefs as Constance, Ray B, Paul and others are in theirs. I can't remember anything that he has written that is documented, except for a few article links. It's all written as opinion which does make it harder to challenge. The New Age movement has been documented historically. It would make sense to show where his beliefs fit into the New Age pattern. Constance could probably do that best.
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ReplyDeleteThe One World Government elitists are in full panic mode! Populism (i.e. the independent sovereignty of nations)is sweeping Europe, and, hopefully, the EU will soon end up in the trash bin of history.
Read the following story: European Union Chief threatens to break up the USA in retaliation against Trump's support for BREXIT ...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-30/eu-chief-threatens-trump-supporting-brexit-vows-promote-break-us
To 12:15
ReplyDeleteIf you will read comments I left on the few past posts, you should learn more. There were extensive people working on the topics and researching it in California, Oregon, Washington, Maryland, Georgia, Kansas, Missouri. They were IMHO penetrated by some promoting "Discernment" that also had ties to Doug Coe's International Christian Leadership. They obviously obtained my mailing lists through flattery of those working with me and even books and resource materials from me. I learned in Oregon in 2006 that I had been betrayed and that's why my phone had been so uncharacteristically silent -- one of those professing to be my "best friend" and occasionally asking me to speak at a small event was busy urging the networks she had scoped out not to give me a speaker's platform. I started feeling like a real fool after I discovered she was speaking world-wide including Australia for a month at a time at obviously expensive materials. I gave ample resources where to read up on some of the suspects whose names I will withhold both to protect the guilty and the innocent (because many innocents were involved).
Indeed there were networks of those communicating on the issues such as Manifest Sons of God, Kansas City Prophets, etc.
Read the piece I put up about the conference held at Michigan State University in the 1990s. It turns out they were obviously putting it together with expensive planning meetings held at locations such as Atlanta, Georgia. One person meeting with them there, Anthony Buzzard, was a nominee for the Templeton Prize in Religion Award.
Planning meetings at distant locations for which the participants had to fly obviously cost money and much of it. Rental of the Michigan State University facility obviously cost money.
You can read my back posts where I left important clues and check some of the links I gave there for clues.
Constance
Marko,
ReplyDeleteI have long struggled over whether to write a full book about the resistance I had to getting the word out on the New Age Movement in Christian circles. What has so far restrained me are Jesus'words to his disciples about the wheat growing and somebody coming and planting tares. Jesus told his disciples to do nothing about the tares because in pulling up the tares, the wheat also might be harmed.
I'm clearly not smart enough IMHO to second guess Jesus on these words. Some of what I would have to write would send literal shock waves through some of the Christian community. I usually say something when it is necessary to keep somebody from deception. However, I don't want to lead others into disillusionment.
Constance
Constance 11:00 I know all of that history. It doesn't answer the question. All of us who have been major researchers have encountered heavy opposition from one person or group who we trusted. All of us have been betrayed in one way or another. So sorry you had to go through the same kind of thing, but that's what happens to those who try to be very honest with what we see going on. I myself know how difficult it is to speak out about those who have used and opposed my efforts.
ReplyDeleteIt would be helpful if you answered Marko's questions.
I honestly don't think anybody else received the organized resistance I received from the varied quarters I received it ranging from Fr. Mitch Pacwa, EMNR, Denver Seminary, Fellowship Foundation, International Christian Leadership, CRI, and so many others. You literally have no idea! Pioneers get shot in the back. Settlers often reap the rewards. I was a pioneer.
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Ray B, do remember that Hitler whose Nazism was a try at implementing the New Age movement was what now would be called a populist or a nationalist. What I see is a group of populist governments working together to create a globalist movement. The trusting population in each country so trusts their "populist" leaders the leaders can pull off anything they desire. Think of all the wonderful things Hitler promised his followers, and they believed him so full of hope. In fact, he did have a relationship with some other populists. It didn't work out.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't mean it's not being tried again.
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ReplyDeleteConstance, when there is no network to lean on in new territory, every one who starts being a researcher can be called a pioneer. Of course you were the very first, well except for that guy in Minnesota. He had much of the same material, but he didn't know how to market it. Since you say there were networks, there must have been other individuals who were targeted. I wonder why we didn't hear who they were.
ReplyDeleteI think the Brexit has prophetic importance.
ReplyDeleteHi Constance,
ReplyDeleteGosh the neigh sayers are still trying to discredit your work 30+ years later.
Vindication of your research is plain to see...you exposed secret plans etc that have over the years come out in the open (which is proof enough).
When they try to shut you up ...shout it from the roof tops.
Time for a new book.
Now at least you can self publish on Amazon, they can't silence the narrative.
Regards
Grant NZ
John Paul II was an ardent supporter of the United Nations. For a while, he was known as the world's most visible promoter of the New World Order. Former UN Under Secretary General Robert Muller (1923-2010) was a promoter the late Jesuit Teilhard de Chardin's evolutionary theology. Muller, who has been called the UN's "prophet of hope" wrote the "Framework for Planetary and Cosmic Consciousness." He referred to the United Nations as "the body of Christ." As a token of his esteem, John Paul II gave Muller a pectoral cross.
ReplyDeleteIn the early 1990s, John Paul II stated: "By the end of this decade we will live under the first one world government that has ever existed in the society of nations...a government with absolute authority to decide the basic issues of human survival."
Such a statement is consistent with other statements coming out of Rome since Vatican II. John XIII's Pacem in Terris (1963), the call was made "Men's common interests make it imperative that at long last a world-wide community of nations be established." Two years later, Paul VI, during his United Nations speech, would echo this, saying that the UN "is the obligatory path for modern civilization and world peace."
Archbishop Renato Martino, a former president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, said: The UN should be a "subsidiary world authority" to guarantee "a manner of world government that favors peace" and that "it is time to undertake a constitutional engineering of humanity so that the United Nations can carry out its irreplaceable role."
The UN's Temple of Understanding calls itself a "spiritual United Nations," and is another group that has NGO status at the UN. It was conceived in 1960, and besides Paul VI, other founders and supporters have included John XXIII, Mother Teresa, U Thant, Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlat Nehru, Trappist monk Thomas Merton, the Dali Lama, former-First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt, Dr. Albert Schweitzer, Planned Parenthood's Margaret Sanger, socialist Norman Thomas, Episcopal Bishop James Pike, and billionaire John D. Rockefeller, who largely bankrolled the seed money for the organization. Just as the United Nations constitutes the precursor of a one world government, so. too, the syncretistic Temple of Understanding can be seen as the basis for a one world religion.
ReplyDeleteSo this is what you want as your great hope for the globe, Mr. Dahlheimer?
ReplyDeleteSeeking to help bring the one world government and one world church to a full manifest.
As I recall you posted that you consider yourself cutting edge on this "frontier of the New Age" (which has been tried before multiple times on the earth).
This blog and others have warned and warned of the ramifications of who and what (now a multitude) has been undermining to destroy men of freewill created in the Image of God and that's okay with you.
To post here, aren't you preaching to the wrong crowd?
Your beliefs and actions toward those beliefs, will save everything since you know what is best for the whole world and all of it's people, do you?
You are a severe human being thinking yourself equal to God. Proving yourself the very example of the truth of original sin, while you reject the very truth of it.
Pro 29:1 He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.
Just a little bit more time and you'll see and know how wrong you have been.
Constance,
ReplyDeleteI understand your sentiment. I guess I'd rather see people disillusioned than misillusioned (new word, haha). In other words, I think it's better to destroy someone's false believe than to allow them to continue in their deception. But that's not the end of the matter.
The rest of the equation has to be to provide the truth to replace the vacuum that is left - we can't just say "Your belief in X is wrong"; we have to add "and the correct belief is Y", and Y should always involve pointing people to the truth of the Gospel, and to Jesus Christ, which you've always done.
This is something I've asked several people recently: How does a person be a watchman on the wall, exposing deception and darkness, and still be a bearer of the Gospel, which means "good news" (or "great news!")? I'm trying to find the best approach for myself that works - the best way for me to say "Well I have some bad news and some good news...."
Or maybe a different way of posing the question would be this:
How do we balance applying the truths of the parable of the wheat and tares to our lives, with the serious activities required of a watchman?
To 12:40
ReplyDeleteNow, I'm getting VERY ANNOYED. It's vis a vis "that guy in Minnesota" comments. That's the one, if I recall correctly, that you said had to prove I was anti-Semitic as I was quoting the same sources as him. He was indeed anti-Semitic. As I recall correctly, he was not kind to me either. As I told you that day back in 1983 as I recall when we first talked after I learned you had falsely accused me of anti-Semitism, I said to you, "if that's what he said, he lied. The Jews are clearly a target of the New Age Movement." You said (and I'm sure "anonymous" I know who you are) "I'm going to check out what you said and if you're lying, I'll be the worst enemy you've ever had. If you're telling the truth, I'll be your best friend." We happily were friends for years. However, I believe you took the extensive persecution I received as "fame". I appreciate the efforts you have made -- however, I also believe you have chased some good people away by jumping to conclusions as incorrect as I believe you may have originally harbored against me.
Constance
In three parts.
ReplyDeleteConstance, there are many things that annoy people. I've been annoyed and other verbs many times in this battle against the New Age movement. As you might undoubtedly recall, I was doing serious research in many areas beginning in 1979, years before I heard of you. In connection with that I was getting the multi-page newsletters referred to before your book came out. He never mentioned you as he probably didn't know you were involved in looking at the same things. Other than being on his free newsletter mailing list, I didn't know who he was and never spoke with him. My interest at that time was in exposing the Humanist movement which is extremely large. His information was interesting and didn't seem foolish to someone new to information about New Age. It was just factual information. Antisemitic comments popped up in a few of the newsletters which was disturbing. I'm not going to mention his name as this was long before the internet, and copies of his newsletters would only be in the hands of a few people. I copied and sent you everything he wrote, so you may still have them somewhere in your huge files. I didn't know you or what your connection with New Age was. As anyone who has read this blog for years knows, I'm Jewish and growing antisemitism is something that we should be very aware of. His newsletter was the first I had heard about Lucis Trust, etc. and there was no place to check out what he said, internet research not existing in those years. As a side note, though the Humanist movement was huge and went back to the 1930s, every library I checked only had reference to Humanism in the Renaissance in the card catalog. Librarians didn't know what I was talking about. I could only go the Humanist magazines, get their Manifestos that included signers I was aware of the Aspen Institute of Humanistic Studies because of the connection with Great Books. I also went to the Encyclopedia of Associations. Yet somehow librarians knew nothing about Humanism.
You know all of this already, so this is for the benefit of other readers here as accurate information about the exposure of New Age is important. When I lived in Kansas in 1979 I was involved in a major textbook fight against the school district. I heard from these friends that you were going to speak to them and what your topic was. Your book hadn't come out. Kansas and Michigan are quite a ways apart, so I questioned how they heard of you but received no answer. Yep, I warned them. I didn't want them to be taken in, only to have their credibility lost in the process. You called me up and said I should know that the movement was antisemitic, though you didn't explain. I said I would start checking things out. I am and have been an activist, finding out what is going in person at every kind of bookstore, to different addresses and to hear speakers, as well as in books. I gathered free material that I called street paper. The commandment is Thou shalt Not Bear False Witness, and that means about everyone.
Part two
ReplyDeleteYes, we were friends for many years and I shared everything I found, before the internet sending you very large packages of information, which I later learned from you that you sometimes lost or didn't get to open. No problem. I'm sure there were many people feeding you information at that point and you were also a full time lawyer. Over the years many things in our relationship troubled me, but I always felt the goal of exposing New Age was more important than my personal feelilngs about any person who said they were exposing it. I made contact with anyone I could to learn as much as I could about that antisemitic movement. If I had thought there was something that was a major problem with you or your information, I would have stopped working with you. Over the first 25 years I supported you, referred others to your research as your credentials were a plus in telling others about the movement. In addition I knew of no one who was digging as deeply as you were. Maybe there were others, but how could anyone know. Your claim about my response to attacks on you is false. Looking back though it does appear you were a target by name as your name was the only one associated with research on New Age. Every attack did give you and your work more publicity, so what could be the problem. Your feelings? Of course it was bound to happen as it happened to many others attempting to expose many other things the governments were involved in, as is still happening now.
There are many other things I could comment on, but there is no point to it as time has passed and the battle against the New Age movement has been lost. There is a huge amount of information available, but no audience for it. The why is a whole other story, going much deeper than any attacks on you personally. I have my own take on it as you have yours. My research library is somewhat smaller than yours. My contacts are far fewer for many reasons. One of my focus points was the reasons for the attacks on monotheism, both Christian and Jewish. It is very hard to expose the reasons for the New Age movement's attack on both in the circumstances that exist.
Part 3
ReplyDeleteThe attempt to destroy the importance of monotheism in cultures by those promoting a One World Government seems to have taken several forms since the early 1900s. One attempt was the promotion of atheism, example Russia. That is described in this book, The Plot to Kill God Findings from the Soviet Experiment in Secularization Paul Froese (2008). A second way was by replacement with pagan, occult, Eastern religions, gnostic beliefs, substitutes. We may be seeing a third way as described in Pomerantsev's book that is happening in Russia. That is mentioned in a comment at Amazon after Froese's book. "At the end of the book, Froese gives useful advice to would-be dictators - don't fight God, co-opt Him. Use the Western European model of weak religious monopolies and the established church may turn out to be a bulwark of your regime." From a review of the book at Amazon. This is a serious academic book. We need to be aware of the form we are fighting.
To 3:42 pm
ReplyDeleteYour book hadn't come out. Kansas and Michigan are quite a ways apart, so I questioned how they heard of you but received no answer. Yep, I warned them. I didn't want them to be taken in, only to have their credibility lost in the process. You called me up and said I should know that the movement was antisemitic, though you didn't explain.
This is not my recollection of what happened and I have an excellent memory. I didn't know you also called people in Kansas. You called TV 38 in Chicago after I appeared on their station for a 3 hour special on March 19, 1983, but before their documentary was done. When they came to Detroit to do their documentary they told me that they had received the phone call from you. When I called you, I told you exactly WHY, quoting sources such as specific pages in RUNNING GOD'S PLAN by Foster Bailey and THE EXTERNALISATION OF THE HIERARCHY by Alice Ann Bailey. No, Google was not around there and I did my own research spending my own money for the extensive library of proofs I had acquired. My own papers on this are now sitting in the Bentley Historical Library in Ann Arbor since U of M contacted me for archival purposes back in 2003. However, my recollection is still excellent. I will tell you right now that the Minnesota author was RON MILLER and his paper was DISTANT DRUMS.
Constance
Constance, your memory is faulty in this case. Mine is much better. I heard from my friends in Shawnee Mission, Kansas, that you were going to speak there. I was still in touch with them, particularly Elaine since I did a lot of work with Elaine in that textbook fight. She told me you were to be their speaker and the topic rang a bell in connection with Ron Miller's newsletters. Keep in mind I didn't know you or any of the research you were doing. All I knew is that you were going to talk about Lucis Trust etc., subjects in the Miller newsletter. They may have told me you were going to speak on the Rose show so I did call the station to also warn them. The Rose people told me that they had checked you out already. Simple question: Why would I have called the station before you appeared on the show if you had already called me? You called me after I talked with Elaine and before you appeared on the show. I know it was Distant Drums as I still have all the copies of that newsletter. Typing in caps is shouting. Keep your blood pressure down. Are the Distant Drums newsletters at Bentley? If they are I should be able to find them on the list of your papers there, something you might want to share with your followers on this blog.
ReplyDeleteYou and every one else who did research on New Age spent huge amounts of money and time to accumulate information. You had a built in audience with the Christian community as it was very active in the early '80s. The Rose program was on a 24 hour a day religious station. There were also Christian radio stations such as Southwestern. (I still have some of that material.) There was a large number of Christian bookstores. These as well as churches provided a built in audience for your new information. Unfortunately very few took seriously New Age as a neutral topic. It was always tied in with End Times and Revelation. When End Times survival went down the tubes in 2000, interest steeply dropped off. The Jewish community never took the topic seriously though I tried to wake up many in that community. It had become too tied in with End Times, etc. Since you were getting the information out about New Age, I did what I could to share what I found with you and to constantly give you credit as the main researcher. As I said earlier, I have taken the information about New Age seriously and personalities didn't stand in the way of getting it out. It's not needed to say more.
Here's another book I just came across of interest. Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law Hardcover – February 21, 2017
ReplyDeleteby James Q. Whitman I do wonder if those involved in promoting New Age had a role in this in the US as the Lucis Trust books make a big deal about races. I've always wondered how much "race" as defined by the Nazis had to do with New Age because of the Nazi occult connection. Maybe one of the readers of this blog has looked into it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sGetseFWcc
ReplyDeleteRick Warren NAR conncection alert, http://bereanresearch.org/calling-rick-warren-general-significant/
ReplyDeleteConstance, Like the other poster said, Jeremiah didn't read your books very well, didn't see that ad copy, and to say you don't say who wants the antichrist is ridiculous. What of Marilyn fgerguson's statements you quote? complaining of using New Age sources shows this character has no notion of investigation, of using brags admissions slip ups and internal only intended lectures and documents that get leaked to find out what is going on that is routine in other investigations. dot connecting and noting behavior. I ran into this complaint decades ago. says you publicize New Age ideas but so does he when he denouces them. Fr. Seraphim Rose wrote about this before you did.
I agree New Age is PART of the mystery of iniquity, but its purpose is to bring the antichrist but will fail he will turn up some other way. New Age (a spectrum of spiritual, occultic practices and politics incl. Nazism) has several segments whose interests do not align some despising others.
Overfocus on political misses spiritual and vice versa. Meanwhile, antichrist or no antichrist on the horizon, things are working up towards a persecution of Christians in Europe and maybe here to some extent going on
Middle and Far East and Africa.
I think people got persuaded against you by the soothing atmosphere in a lot of these groups and that a lot of individuals project.
Discernment ministries misinterpret "discernment" as strictly an intellectual activity (this exists of course) St. Paul mentions "discerning OF SPIRITS" among gifts of The Holy Spirit and sounds like a supernatural ability and detects more than specific obvious doctrines. Information and Research Resource would be a better term.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/elon-musk-billion-dollar-crusade-to-stop-ai-space-x
Elon Musk somehow thinks the neural lace connections of brain to AI would be workable against AI run amok, or else he is deceiving himself and partly seduced by the AI dream he fears. supposedly this keeps human brain on par with AI. On twitter, media analyst "Lionel" raises the issue of what happens when the connected computers and brains are hacked.
Genetic surgery (a big breakthrough is CRISPR but this goes to the 1990s and earlier) bypasses sex atogether. genes are snipped from one species and moved into another with this anything is possible transhumanism
has some interest in this.
Your salvation is not at issue but your health and sanity might be. lateral gene inheritance transfer goes on all the time because of viruses in nature potato genes are in humans. GMO is just a slop job forced version of this.
Someone might claim Gene modified you or your progeny as copyrighted property especially if a synthetic gene is involved.
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ReplyDeleteIn his book "An Age of Unreason: Catholics and the New Age" internationally acclaimed TV personality Fr. Mitch Pacwa, got it totally wrong. He wrote: "The New Age movement is not a form of Satanic worship but, like the feminist Wicca to which it is organically related, a form of amoral neo-pagan nature worship."
ReplyDeleteRef. http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=05-03-032-b#ixzz4d5fpLmtk
Nature is the natural, physical, or finite material world or universe.
Helena Blavatsky, the Mother of the New Age movement, wrote: “It is quite true that the origin of every religion is based on the dual powers, male and female, of abstract Nature, but these in their turn were the radiations or emanations of the sexless, infinite, absolute Principle, the only One to be worshipped in spirit and not with rites;..."
“How, then, can the Infinite and the Boundless, the unconditioned and the absolute, be of any size? . . . “That which is infinite and unconditioned can have no form,.."
[The nature is the finite universe and it has form.] ... [New Agers do not worship the finite universe. or nature, we worship the "infinite absolute Principle, the only One to be worshipped.."]
Mahatma Gandhi said: "Theosophy is the teaching of Madame Blavatsky. It is Hinduism at its best." Paramahansa Yogananda (1893–1952) was a Hindu who was widely revered as the father of Yoga in the West. When writing about Satan, who is known as maya in Hindu scriptures, he wrote:
"Maya [Satan] is Nature herself—the phenomenal worlds, ever in transitional flux as antithesis to Divine Immutability. In God's plan and play (lila), the sole function of Satan or maya is to attempt to divert man from Spirit [or convince man that he is NOT a Divine Spirit - the truth is, 'you shall be like God' (Genesis 3:6), Jehovah-Satan refutes this] to matter [individual humans believing that they are NOT, along with all other humans, essentially One Being and Spirit and that their bodies (made of matter) are a part of who they are], from Reality to unreality.
New Agers do not worship Nature. or the finite Universe, we worship the "infinite absolute Principle, the only One to be worshipped..."
Thomas Dahlheimer, your religion doesn't come with a moral code. Just admit it. It is strictly speculation, kind of stream of consciousness poetry. Rather useless for the real world. It's a let's explain the supernatural to the intellectual rubes, kind of the advertising that's called "baffle them with bullshit." For entertainment I prefer the woman whose autistic son goes up to heaven and is taught by the angels just to bring the messages down to earth spelled out by him on his i-pad. Some of it is great advice. That mother is really good as she tells the story. Makes me want to jump on the bandwagon. That story has some really good emotional kick to it. I'll wait until I see the son typing on his i-pad on one of the many videos done before I believe it. Maybe you could convince Maya to strike some prophesied lightning bolts on the Eiffel Tower or some other place. Give your religion some kick.
ReplyDeleteOMOTS has a new post WHAT’S WRONG WITH THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT?
ReplyDeleteFor those who haven't come across the story, here's a start in looking up Tahni Cullen
ReplyDeletehttps://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2016/09/surprised-by-autism-an-interview-with-tahni-cullen/
http://www.lightsource.com/ministry/its-supernatural/tahni-cullen-587930-full.html With Sid Roth
Maybe we can put together two things to help Trump at this time. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could believe Trump is getting supernatural help? It turns out there are many articles on the internet about the possibility of Baron Trump being autistic. Most of them say leave the kid alone. Well if Josiah can be getting messages, maybe so can Baron. Anything is possible with God they say.
Illinois,
ReplyDeleteYour recollection is faulty. I appeared on Kansas City programs approximately 2 1/2 months before appearing on TV 38 in Chicago. I never spoke to you until AFTER I did the 3 hour Illinois program. It was sometime after doing the Illinois program that we did the documentary of which interviews by me were a segment. Other segments were with others including Sylvia Beadleston of San Jose, California. You may well have talked about me to friends in Kansas, but the ones who broke it to me and precipitated my phone call to you were the two male interviewers from Chicago. I called you almost immediately after they told me about your calls to the Jerry Rose owned station. That was sometime after March 19, 1983. My Kansas City televised interviews were with Jane Parks and "Something Beautiful" program from there, but then nationally televised on CBN and PTL networks.
And indeed, I told you in my first conversation with you exactly why the New Age Movement was anti-Semitic and why my fighting the New Age Movement definitely did not constitute "anti-Semitism". I quoted chapter and verse to you from the Foster and Alice Bailey books in that firsti conversation.
This definitely is not important to the subject and I think probably everybody else is getting as sick of this online quibbling as am I. I was irritated by the false statement that I had not told you WHY the New Age Movement was anti-Semitic in our first conversation. Whether YOU remember it or not, I definitely did. How else did you know where to go look? You had not picked that up from reading Ron Miller newsletters.
Constance
Constance
Methinks Illonois's meds are muddling her mind somewhat... unless it's just wear and tear coupled with rust issues for not having put those well strained cogs into motion for quite some time!
ReplyDeleteCaps again Constance? Whatever. I know exactly what I am talking about. They told me you were a speaker. What a coincidence that they knew you enough to have you as a speaker or knew you as a guest on a show in Kansas. What a surprise when I met them again by chance at a certain kind of organizational meeting in a Chicago suburb very shortly after that. I didn't put the pieces together until a few years ago. Now you know what I know. No one else needs to know. Add all the extraneous details you want to. It doesn't change what I said. Isn't it wonderful that I'm one of the few still around who knew you before the book came out, fighting the New Age movement with a huge amount of research. It should please you no end that someone has moved along the research trail with you.
ReplyDeleteSharing the information on what can be found in the Bentley archives would be so helpful to other researchers on New Age. I do hope you give them that link. All researchers should stick together for the benefit of believers in Judaism, Christianity and the US in general.
As far as Distant Drums, I can believe that the both of you were working on the same information by chance. They say it happened to Edison and a guy in France and Alexander Bell and someone else. So good to know you fight antisemitism everywhere it can be found and have nothing to do with it because of the New Age movement which you work so hard to expose.
It is EVIDENT to anyone reading of sane disposition that Constance has used capitals so as to add EMPHASIS. I doubt the poor attempt by the bellows of the Illinois bully will quieten or cower Constance.
ReplyDeleteConstance's prose is seamless and convincing, unlike the disjointed ramblings of a jealous and raging woman who sees Anti-Semitism at every corner she turns... I'm surprised she hasn't yet gone as far as to accuse Moses himself of such!
Fascinating case study from WW2 history regarding Nazism and Communism:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcDvEKO4ybQ
Antisemitism is a part of the discussion, and they will be doing a program on that topic Tuesday morning, same channel.
Marko, I listened to the video and I disagree with Nyquist, although he seems scholarly. Much has already been written by others on how Putin controls information on a worldwide level from Russia. It is naive to think that Trump would be exempted from controlling attempts. What? To do a favor to Republicans in America? I have been doing research in this area and hope to share 12 links to others showing how Putin controls the spread of disinformation. It's called cyber warfare. You can start looking at what Timothy Snyder has recently written and shared, particularly on signs to watch out for to avoid being a victim of a tyrannical government. He also has suggested Pomerantsev's book. I can just see the ninnies saying "He said leftist things so nothing he says can be accurate." He did research on Russia and Germany and could do it in eleven languages. One of his books is Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin Paperback – October 2, 2012.
ReplyDeleteJust for fun it might be interesting to see this from a New Age point of view. We know the early movement out of Britain worked to promote two systems, communism and socialism, to see which would work out better. We know that the Nazis took the movement which was to be international and used the philosophy on a national level, truly upsetting those who wanted it kept to be international. America, separated from Europe and Asia by water and by the independence of the new world was a thorn in their side. Don't ask me to document this. It's not worth the bother for the small readership here. Just consider it for fun thinking.
In a review of Fr. Mitch Pacwa's book "An Age of Unreason: Catholics and the New Age" Donna Steichen wrote about the New Age theology of the internationally acclaimed prophet of the United Nations "Roman Catholic" Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (1881-1955). Steichen wrote:
ReplyDeleteTeilhard treats original sin as a condition inherent in the evolving universe rather than as an act of disobedience by our first parents, focuses on Christ’s Incarnation as an evolutionary advance rather than as the means of our redemption, and implies, at least by omission, that God is not separate from evolution."
What is the point Dorothy?
ReplyDeleteYour rehash seems to be begging credit or acknowledge from Constance and her readers that you feel deserving of, but feel you have been slighted somehow.Is that the case?
Otherwise why is this conversation going on, especially here?
I thought you were on the same page as Constance.
Maybe not.......
Your "friendly fire" makes you look bad.
TD @ 8:40 AM: Don't care who you quote. Go to the Source-The Bible God's spoken and immutable Word-humble yourself and learn from it. Then you'll know and have something worth posting.
ReplyDeleteIs this all your life is? Just taking up some space on blogs?
You post mere chaff. Is your life as empty as your "truth"?
That is how you come across.
2:59...
ReplyDeleteI'm just curious - on what point(s) do you disagree? I don't think he was suggesting that Trump would be immune from attempts to control his administration. I'll have to watch it again I guess to see if that's what he's saying. I don't always agree with him, and I think he misses things.
What I found interesting is that Soviet agents were in place both in Germany and in the US, influencing the foreign policy of both countries to benefit the Soviet Union. That indeed seems to have happened, since at the end of WW2, the Soviets had taken the eastern half of Europe.
As far as his scholarship credentials, in his field of study I know of no equal. He's been studying this same topic for 20 years now. He has talked to many people in Russia and Eastern Europe who have confirmed his main thesis, which is that the collapse of the Soviet Union was an orchestrated event, and that the "grand strategy" that existed in the Soviet Union since the revolution of 2017 is still there and being played out.
His focus is on the political side of things, and not the religious, but he is not ignorant of that aspect. In fact, I'm hoping whatever he has planned for tomorrow morning will start taking him into the religious side of things a little further than he has so far been willing to go.
His main reason for not going into the religious side is a concern that has been borne out here - that discussions soon devolve into fingerpointing and seeing which denomination / faction / whomever can paint all the others black the soonest. It is counterproductive.
Because of his avoidance of the religious aspects of the ongoing global revolution, he misses important connections. Or maybe he doesn't miss them, but just avoids mentioning them, and therefore gives the impression that he's missed something.
***Make that the revolution of 1917, above, 3rd paragraph. But who knows, since this year is the 100th anniversary of that horrible year, we could see some *interesting* things....
ReplyDelete10:43 No more conversation on that topic I felt it was necessary to speak on behalf of many researchers in the battle against the New Age movement, the many who have taken the topic very seriously and who now think they understand why the battle may be lost. I think it is, but I might be wrong. What you know or think isn't important unless you are one of them. The only page of importance is the one on which the public exposure of the New Age movement is written, not at this time the names of those who have written on it. You, in particular, might not learn anything new if Constance posts the contents of the Bentley library files, but I think it might give some new leads to others. Aren't you interested in what is already public known in an organized way about the New Age movement that is destroying freedom?
ReplyDeleteIllinois, I am not the poster to whom you so arrogantly wrote, "What you know or think isn't important unless you are one of them", yet just who do you think you are? Where are YOUR books, etc? All you offer is a Facebook page full of ramblings and vemom with little of value. If you had any glowing nuggets of value, new or original, to add (not pilfered from others research), then you must have thrown them without a look and kept the sludge! Your hubris and pride are matched only by your trail of debris here!
DeleteMarko, the information about Mueller and Schellenberg is new to me and I would have to know more. That information is close to a hundred years old. Both the Nazis and communists have ongoing histories that don't seem to intersect, yet do not seem to oppose each other. I don't think Nyquist or you propose that the Nazis were used by Stalin and the communists to bring so much evil into the world, so we should excuse the Nazi movement leaders for what they did. Nothing in the writings of the Soviet dissidents I've read shows Soviet links to Nazi efforts.
ReplyDeleteIt's interesting that because the Nazi movement is so fluid there is no dissident movement to expose them. The only have supporters. The communists are exposed by dissidents. Maybe if they are working together it's an example of how Constance has described the destruction taking place. The culture is being described by the termites from within, the Nazis, and the wrecking balls from the outside, the communists. We see the wrecking balls, but the termites are harder to spot.
Anonymous 2:54 ...I am responding in kind.
ReplyDeleteDear 2:54 PM,
ReplyDeleteHer claws came out for Constance, so why not claw others too while she's at it?
She goes about the "good fight" in the wrong attitude.
This shouldn't be a competition but sadly,she makes it one.
3:30 Dear friend: And you are? Anw what have you contributed to the exposure of the New Age movement? For how many years? Do share your story with everyone. Snarky comments don't count except for entertainment.
ReplyDelete"She goes about the "good fight" in the wrong attitude."
ReplyDeleteYou've got it in one, that's exactly it!
Yes, she's always poised to tear into someone off the cuff: at her age she should know better. A bitter sense of entitlement and a penchant to belittle others is her 'forté', yet such cutting remarks of hers may well prove to be her Achilles heel and ultimate downfall. I see a ditch coming her way... best not follow her is my advice.
Illinois at 4:05 PM,
ReplyDeletewhat dotty remarks you have made yet again! It's YOU who's chosen this topic page to TEAR into Constance and put the boot in, trying once more to belittle HER great achievements and ruin her reputation as you tried (and failed) all those years ago, as well as years of running gentle posters from her blog! So, the ONUS is on YOU to show just what contributed of an equivalent level, what notable achievements of equal caliber do you have under your belt! Where is / are YOUR book(s)? No, you are the antithesis of Constance both in achievement (despite your wasted years) and it terms of victorious humility, which no doubt you erroneously see as an oxymoron in your blind and deluded hubris.
How kind of Constance to let the babblers have freedom of speech. That it distracts from information being shared about New Age isn't a problem. Now every serious researcher, ask yourself why.
ReplyDelete4:27 Have I not said many kind things about Constance over many, many years. I have kept her name alive in circles unheard of by you because she has shared information about New Age. Now do tell who you are, what you have contributed and for how many years. Interested minds want to know.
ReplyDeleteIllinois at 4:05 PM,
ReplyDeletewhat dotty remarks you have made yet again! It's YOU who's chosen this topic page to TEAR into Constance and put the boot in, trying once more to belittle HER great achievements and ruin her reputation as you tried (and failed) all those years ago, as well as years of running gentle posters from her blog! So, the ONUS is on YOU to show just what YOU'VE contributed at an equivalent level; what notable achievements of equal caliber do you have under your belt! Where is / are YOUR book(s)? No, you are the antithesis of Constance both in achievement (despite your wasted years) and it terms of victorious humility, which no doubt you erroneously see as an oxymoron in your blind and deluded hubris.
Illinois, sadly, my last post seemed a little too highbrow for you, I've given you the benefit of the doubt and repeated it for you with a little more clarity.
ReplyDeleteWhere's YOUR book, Illinois? Stop ducking the question! Interested (?) minds are waiting...
4:27 PM, because there's a certain unpleasant woman of Illinois who's stirring her pot of mischief and if she can shift the blame on to others, as they call her out on her heartless folly, then, as far as she's concerned, so be it!
ReplyDeleteSome say things come in threes, well if that's the case, then this blog has Gnostic Christine, New Ager Dahlheimer, and the nastiest of all, know-it-all Dorothy!
"3:30 Dear friend: And you are?"
ReplyDeleteI'm not trying to be anybody (I do my part to help make others aware).
But it seems you are trying to be somebody by tearing down another to lift yourself up?
All your work will be for naught if that is your agenda.
"But it seems you are trying to be somebody by tearing down another to lift yourself up?"
ReplyDelete"All your work will be for naught if that is your agenda."
Spot on, 5:00PM! Exactly!
You folks are so cute. As the lady on Saturday Night Live would say... talk among yourselves. I'm glad I've given you something to talk about with your equals. As your song goes, "We belong to a mutual, admiration society, my buddies and me." As they say, there is someone for everyone.
ReplyDeleteWhere is my book? Where is yours. Are you suggesting Constance has done no research since her last book came out 30 years ago. Shame on you for putting her down in that way. I give her much more credit than that because I know she was a busy lawyer.
I hope you are looking forward to her sharing the link to the materials at Bentley. It's great stuff.
"Where is my book? Where is yours. Are you suggesting Constance has done no research since her last book came out 30 years ago"
ReplyDeleteWhere is YOUR book, Dorothy? Your all mouth and no substance! Constance has published MORE than one book! Yet you put her down as to when that was? Constance has a wealth of material proven here on this blog over the years, and built on the foundation of having published SEVERAL excellent books. So where's your book, Dorothy?
Just as I thought, YOU'RE just an OLD BAG of odious wind!
6:39, etc....
ReplyDeleteWhy all the vitriol?
One can publish many books, but that doesn't make them an expert in the field. Speaking generally, of course, and not in reference to those here.
One can also have much important research on a topic, but hasn't the time or resources or inclination to publish anything. That doesn't mean they have nothing to contribute. It certainly doesn't classify them as an odious bag of wind.
Constance and Dorothy may have their past disagreements, but I would hope they would put them aside for the greater good. Indeed, it looked like that was the case earlier, after they aired some of them, but then the snipers like yourself had to come along and try to derail things even more. Toward what end? What good is served by all the sniping?
I see in your supposed wisdom, Marko, you don't suppose your a sniper yourself? In case you hadn't noticed, this is Constance's blog, not yours, not mine, and certainly not Dorothy's. Now, unless you're slower than a snail doing backstroke, you'd have noticed Dorothy is here abusing Constance. If you're attitude is "don't get involved" then why are you doing so now? Take the log out of your own eye first pal!
ReplyDeleteDorothy is an insidiously nasty and jealous old woman, and no, your lack of diplomacy in your post at 2:32PM swiftly followed by Illinois dig at 11:29 PM ending in, "It would be helpful if you answered Marko's questions", shows exactly why you're opposed to anyone defending Constance's reputation against the unceasing vitriol and bile blasted over this blog by Dorothy for many years against Constance, Ruth and many others. Still you wouldn't know them would you Marko, seeing as you've barely been around a couple of years yet!
So no, I won't be bludgeoned into silence when I am defending someone whose blog it is against a vile and treacherous bully such as Dorothy, or her cohorts such as yourself despite your pretence at careful wording!
No good is served by you inflaming the sniping which lies squarely at Dorothy's door and first stirred up against the blog host Constance, by your feigned neutrality in the matter!
Go look in the mirror!
The article linked below relates to the one Constance posted earlier about Elon Musk.
ReplyDelete"Silicon Valley’s Quest to Live Forever"
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/04/03/silicon-valleys-quest-to-live-forever
Thanks Marko, the old windbags don't bother me. They are rather cute, like grumpy old men who haven't taken their antacid. I can just see them wobbling along, shaking their canes in the air. While it would seem embarrassing to have such a cheering section, Constance must care about them to let them go on and on. I truly doubt they know anything about the New Age movement. They just like to grumble.
ReplyDeleteI've taken the New Age movement very seriously for decades. There are very few around who still do take it seriously. No one owns the copyright on all information that comes out about the New Age movement. You should look forward to the link giving information on what's at Bentley. I found it by accident quite a while back, but since Constance is connected with it, she should be the one to share the link and comment on it. It's more informative than the books that have been promised since 1995 and could get a few more people interested.
Dorothy and everybody else -- I have had the link to the Bentley Historical Library files up as long as I have had this blogspot. I don't know why I am being accused of suppressing same. It is on my links as "UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN".
ReplyDeleteConstance
Dorothy, you couldn't have discovered it "by accident." I freely shared that information as I did just about everything else until you turned on me after you had a disagreement with the publisher of NEWSWITHVIEWS.com and was angered that I still took advantage of that outlet to get important news out. Although I have disagreements with some of that bunch, they have a much larger reader base and submissions to them are posted up with Google and Microsoft news outlets.
ReplyDeleteIn particular, I never hid it from you nor from anybody else. It has always been under my ongoing links as "University of Michigan." If you click on that you'll get an updated link. http://bentley.umich.edu/
Also, for my own papers there: https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/handle/2027.42/107674
I didn't put the link on my spot back when I started this blogspot to "keep it a secret" as you unfairly imply. I certainly never kept it a secret from you. Certainly I have no copyright on New Age Movement research nor do I want one, except on my own works. Even those, I have freely circulated.
Constance
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ReplyDeleteThomas Trollheimer @ 8:40
ReplyDeleteAgain and again you refer to the Bible in order to tear down the Bible in order to make your point: "original sin" is really something else, and "Christ's incarnation" is really something else, yada yada on and on.
Why is the Bible your springboard if your supposed higher truth is at all accurate? The answer is that the Bible has authority. The Bible has the authority that you and your pagan heroes don't possess. Your words are empty and lifeless, even if they are clever and tantalizing.
You can't make a single point without it being predicated on something in the Bible which you insist needs to be rearranged and changed.
Meanwhile God's Word is a great battleship which is unchanged and not even scratched by you continual demonic harping against it.
In the battle of true wisdom, buddy, you're unarmed.
Pope John Paul II wrote: ... It [the New Age spiritual philosophy] is only a new way of practicing Gnosticism...
ReplyDeleteThe information below is from an article about the movie Noah. The article is entitled “Noah” Promotes The Luciferian Gnostic Belief That The Creator Of This World Is Evil. The article is located at http://thetruthwins.com/archives/noah-promotes-the-luciferian-gnostic-belief-that-the-creator-of-this-world-is-evil.
In the new Hollywood blockbuster “Noah”, the Creator of this world is portrayed as an evil homicidal maniac that utterly hates humanity, and the Serpent is portrayed as the one holding the secret that will restore the “divine spark” to humanity. Unfortunately, most Christians have totally missed the Luciferian Gnostic themes that are being openly promoted by this film. ... Director Darren Aronofsky has expertly woven elements of Luciferianism, Gnosticism and even from the Kabbalah throughout the film. Over the years, hundreds of millions of people all over the world that watch this movie will be exposed to the Luciferian gospel without even realizing it.
In Gnosticism, the [name] Demiurge [refers to] the “jealous God” of the Old Testament.
There are many different strands of Gnosticism, but in the version that I call “Luciferian Gnosticism”, the Creator of this world is an evil being known as “the Demiurge” and the Serpent is a good being that possesses the secret knowledge (“gnosis”) that will help humanity rediscover the “divine spark” that already resides inside of them.
Gnosticism presents a distinction between the highest, unknowable God and the demiurgic “creator” of the material. Several systems of Gnostic thought present the Demiurge as antagonistic to the will of the Supreme Being: his act of creation ... is fundamentally flawed, [and] is formed with the malevolent intention of entrapping aspects of the divine [bodiless humans of an eternal un-created realm, who are Spirit] in materiality.
Dorothy, you're the only OLD BAG of odious wind here, oh, and the one who's economical with the truth here (or just losing her memory) while allegedly having 'accidents' whilst sat down at the computer (be careful not to get the keyboard wet)!
ReplyDeleteYou really are an insidiously nasty and jealous old bat, Dorothy! You are the Brutus, the Judas of this blog, capitalizing on misguided Marko's naïve yet perverse defense of you: you're a real low-life piece of work, Illinois!
Yes, Trollothy, your dribbles of incontinence and vicious ramblings here are deteriorating evermore rapidly in terms of having a firm grip on reality and truth: what an OLD BAG of odious wind you are!
ReplyDeleteA great pity!
What DOROTHY's written NO BOOK? What a jealous never had been has-been you are!
ReplyDelete8:54 AM & 9:04 AM
ReplyDeleteWhen you call someone down on content then I can come alongside you.
When you call someone down in their personhood, you are the one becoming odious.
Why are you so angry in taking personal stabs at Dorothy? It isn't yours anyway. This is for Constance to be rightly angered at. Not you. And Constance keeps the blows above the belt. You make yours below the belt. That is bad stuff, brother.
Constance, I respect you for the initial work you did on the New Age movement. I am well aware that you have a following. As I said, there is much more that can be said but I have said what I will publicly and have shared limited thoughts on the matter even privately because I did not want to detract from the focus on the New Age movement. Again, enough said. Don't put words in my mouth. I can speak for myself.
ReplyDeleteYes, we all know the library archived your material at their request. Quite an honor. The link you give isn't very searchable though. The one I am referring to includes many pages of detailed information. I never suggested you were suppressing any information, just that the detailed list never appeared. Many times when we were still talking outside of the blog I offered to clean out that deadwood in the links you have up so that up to date information could be easier to find. It didn't happen. Perhaps you can show readers how to get to that link which has so much detail from the link you posted. I don't want to play around with it. Maybe others can do it.
Bluntly put. You did initial work on the New Age movement, putting out two small paperbacks over thirty years ago. While they sold very well and were translated into foreign languages, not much has been done since then by way of serious, organized research on the very serious subject of the New Age movement. Since 1995 you've posted information on this blog and allowed others to use it to share what they've learned, a gracious thing that does take up some of your lawyer time. You posted information at News and Views. I will not comment on what I found about that site which I called to your attention and which you defended. You have a show on the Microeffect, an interesting radio station which you actually go as far as saying there are some things you disagree with. You are probably a great lawyer. However as the saying goes, you like everyone else put your pants on one leg at a time. Has a bio article ever been done on you? As important as your role was in giving out early information on the New Age movement, there should have been. I've been there since the very beginning and probably know more about you than those who can only act like back alley bullies.
You have made yourself a very public figure. Live with it.
Constance, I should have added this to clear up what you misunderstand. I found the link to the many paged information on what is in the Bentley library by accident. I found it after we stopped talking. Some things about New Age I learned from you. Like many others, we did our own research and added it to yours.
ReplyDeleteAs far as "turning" on you, it happened only one other time in thirty plus years when you refused to defend me after your buddies went on the attack. Please keep it honest.
Every bit of what you have posted of late on this site, Dorothy, should have been handled as an private matter. I think it is pretty low to come over here to Constance's blogspot and air your personal grievances.
ReplyDeleteJust so you know, this has backfired on you. It only made her look better...and you worse.
10:03 AM....
ReplyDeleteDitto to what you said. You are more gracious than I, were I to direct any comments toward the anon poster at 8:54 and at 9:04 and at way too many other timestamps over the past day or so.
If this were my blog, I'd have quietly deleted those comments and blocked the poster from further comments. (Yes, there are ways to do that.)
And to refer back to one of those comments, the only entities I am a "cohort" of is Truth, and Civility. The Dorothy Sniper makes me want to abandon the latter. Same even of the Christine Snipers. All snipers, really.
Defend truth, certainly, and tenaciously, but do it in a manner worthy of one who is named after Christ. "Let your conversations be seasoned with grace..." "When possible, live at peace with all..."
There is a balance to be found in good discourse, which is a prerequisite to good research, yes?
"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak position." -- Anon
Anonymous 1:31 As far as this blog is concerned, the only people whose respect I would seek are those who live the religion they profess and those who honestly work to expose the New Age movement because they understand how it is destroying freedom on an international basis. Constance gets all of the approval she deserves. If my honesty gives her more, so it is. It has nothing to do with me.
ReplyDeleteE.U. Leaders Sign Rome Declaration and Proclaim a ‘Common Future’ (Minus Britain)
ReplyDeleteROME — Proclaiming “Europe is our common future,” 27 leaders of the European Union signed a statement on Saturday in Rome declaring their commitment to integrating the Continent even as a series of crises has badly weakened the efforts and Britain prepares to leave the bloc.
The statement, known as the Rome Declaration and signed on the anniversary of the day the bloc’s foundations were laid 60 years ago, underscored the aspirations of a “unique union with common institutions and strong values, a community of peace, freedom, democracy, human rights and the rule of law.”
The ceremony took place in a hall in Rome that was richly decorated in frescoes depicting scenes from the ancient world. It is the same room where the Treaty of Rome was signed on March 25, 1957, by six countries. That event helped lay the groundwork for today’s union.
The ceremony took place in a hall in Rome that was richly decorated in frescoes depicting scenes from the ancient world. It is the same room where the Treaty of Rome was signed on March 25, 1957, by six countries. That event helped lay the groundwork for today’s union.
Read more at New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/world/europe/rome-declaration-european-union.html?_r=1
To Anonymous 1:01
ReplyDeleteYou say I refused to defend you when others turned on you? Absolutely not true and you know it. Paul Walter intended to sue you after you wrote some of his other authors and urged them to no longer publish on his page. I'm the one who went to him and talked him out of that -- you well know that. After that, you commenced fighting me and sometimes cluttering this blog comment section with what I consider snide and too often untrue statements. There is absolutely no question that we slowed down the New Age planners by over three decades by what they considered the premature disclosure of their work. Donald Keys who formerly headed Planetary Citizens, co-authored with Norman Cousins, was a president of World Federalists and was once a trusted associate of Lucis Trust's Foster & Alice Bailey themselves screamed at a gathering -- yes, information I did share with you after being sent the tape -- that "you know we've developed a backlash. There's that book, 'THE DANGERS OF THE RAINBOW.' Thereafter, he left and lived as a virtual hermit on Mt. Shasta for the rest of his life.
My main problem with you after the NEWSWITHVIEWS event for which you now falsely accuse you of "failing to defend" was that it was like walking on eggshels. You had thin skin and expected all else to have elephant hide. Moreover, you chased other valuable contributors such as Joyce, Rudi and others from the blog by making vicious and threatening comments to them. Your behavior towards Joyce in particular was repugnant to me even from a legal sense. It amounted to stalking.
Constance
IMPORTANT TO ALL -- LET'S LEAVE OFF THE QUIBBLING!!!
ReplyDeleteMy husband just called my attention to a small piece in our OAKLAND PRESS today. It reads:
Technology
Workers getting implanted with chips
STOCKHOLM - What could pass for a dystopian vision for the workplace is almost routine at the Swedish startup hub Epicenter. The company offers to implant is workers with microchips the size of grains of rice that function as swipe cards to open doors, operate printers, or buy smoothies.
The injections have become so poplar that workers at Epicenter hold parties for those willing to get implanted.
"The biggest benefit I think is convenience" said Patrick Mesterton co-founder and CEO of Epicenter.
Stay tuned!
CONSTANCE
How upgrading humans will become the next billion-dollar industry
ReplyDeleteFifty years from now, today’s humans will be obsolete, historian Yuval Harari says
Investors searching for the next transformative technology destined to turn a bunch of Ivy League dropouts into billionaires, and half the market into a loose slot machine, need only look in the mirror.
“The greatest industry of the 21st century will probably be to upgrade human beings,” historian Yuval Harari, author of the fascinating new book “Homo Deus,” told MarketWatch.
‘For the first time in history it will be possible to translate economic inequality into biological inequality.’
Such a divide could give rise to a new version of “old racist ideologies that some races are naturally superior to others,” Harari said. “Except this time the biological differences will be real, something that is engineered and manufactured.”
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-upgrading-humans-will-become-the-next-billion-dollar-industry-2017-04-03?siteid=bigcharts&dist=bigchartsZ
Haven't listened to it yet, but here's the video from just this morning with Jeff Nyquist, Nevin Gussack, and Italo Lorenzen (I think that's his last name) on the latest installment of "Update Brazil" called "Antisemitism, the Left and Russia":
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nRvx1nq1A4
Constance, if you want to stop the quibbling, don't give me something to which I must respond to clarify.
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ReplyDeleteThis information is impressive; I am inspired with your post writing style & how continuously you describe this topic.
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there is an australian soft-core 'talk' show called Q&A hosted on our abc tv network, a few months back they had this guest on; a dr. brian green if i remember his name right, they were talking about the future of humanity and AI etc, a yokel from the audience enquired about the possible dangers of "terminators" (y'know- like the movie)
ReplyDeletethis brain guy then responded with words to the effect of "the current state of humanity- is that a thing we even want to save?" (i'm not even making this up, that's how it went) then this brian guy starts going on about "if you could upload yourself into a silicon based system and live forever, wouldn't you? -i would!" ..so this is the same as kurtzweil's nonsense of the singularity project.. it seems to me, when the biosphere has been collapsed sufficiently, droves of faithless people, little more than animals, will sign up for all this..
ps: the bot verification is stupid :)
cheers from down under
Constance/Tripp/ Leapyear.
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