I hope to have the long awaited Part VI of my Hi-Jacking of Evangelicalism series up by this weekend both here and on NewswithViews.com. Stay tuned!
Constance
News and views of Constance Cumbey concerning "Radical Middle", New Age Movement, Communitarianism, "planetary humanism," "global governance," European Union, Javier Solana, Jeremy Rifkin, "New Age Politics," law in the USA, combined with life in general -- sometimes humorous, sometimes not!
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Thursday, October 02, 2008
Barack Obama's New Group of World Servers?
Berit Kjos has a compelling new article up on NEWSWITHVIEWS.COM. You can read the full article by clicking here. I will confess here that I have not been as disturbed about Barack Obama's candidacy as some of my best friends have been. I have dealt with Detroit's African-American community for years and have had positive interactions with them. Many of them have been my best supporters on the New Age Movement issues. I have, however, had my fair share of concerns about a community group called ACORN. I have been aware of ACORN as long as I have been aware of the existence of the New Age Movement. It is somewhat of a cross between militant New Age and Marxism. The prospect of ACORN having a controlling grip on the White House is almost (but not quite) as terrifying to me as are the Doug Coe/Paul N. Temple and Rev. Moon ongoing spheres of influence with past and current administrations on both sides of the political aisle. Berit has some important things to say and I hope you will read them carefully and do your own research as well.
Constance and group - can you tell me if the Church will be a part of this social unrest or not?
ReplyDeleteSeems to me this is the same, or similar, direction Rick Warren is taking the youth of the church, his church.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous 12:34:
ReplyDeleteYou can safely predict that Sojourners and Evangelicals for Social Action as well as the tree-hugging Richard Cizik and crew will be at that party!
Constance
You know as I was watching the republican convention, there was a movie about McCain- right at the end of that short documentary was a very strange and out of place comment- "the stars are aligned, change will come" I wonder why this New Age comment was tacked onto the end of the Senator,s life story???? Did anyone else notice this?
ReplyDeleteVideo can be seen here if you listen right around the 6:40 mark on you will hear what this change is-
http://fishbowlamerica.com/?p=1018
so while Obama's ties to New Age are more obvious- what about McCain???
Gert
Constance, thank you for all your work!
ReplyDeleteMaria T.
There was a financial expert from Harvard on Fox and Friends this morning who didn't think the bailout was a good idea because of the probability that a lot of the bailout money would go overseas.
ReplyDeleteThis is because foreigners own a large portion of the debt issued by America's two mortgage giants, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and have been assuming that Fannie and Freddie securities came with an implicit backing from the U.S. Treasury.
While I was surfing around, I found the following:
_______________________________
October 2, 2008
France seeks €300bn rescue fund for Europe
http://tinyurl.com/52ksbn
__________________________________
Note: €300bn (read $500 billion)
Hmmmmmmmmm
CONNIE
ReplyDeleteThe only ones saying any criticisms of Obama are based on racism are supporters of Obama. Having followed criticisms of him for many years now I have yet to see criticisms based on his race.
I do hope you were not dismissing all of the factual information I've presented on Obama, assuming all criticisms were based on his skin color. More likely you were afraid to call it because you didn't want to be judged as racist by Obama supporters.
On your show and here in the comments I've presented more information on Obama than Kjos does in her column. This includes support of his run for the position of president of the United States by high level New Agers.
Here in the Chicago area there are many of us who have refused to be taken in by the crooks in Chicago politics, no matter their skin color. Obama is the "son" of Chicago politicians, those of all colors, who lack religious morals.
Dorothy
Anonymous 12:34 PM said...
ReplyDelete"Constance and group - can you tell me if the Church will be a part of this social unrest or not?"
Good question. The answer lies in
where one's treasure is. Where one's treasure is, there will their heart be also. He will keep in perfect peace the one whose heart and mind are fixed on Him. We can be:
"hard pressed on every side -
but not crushed"
"perplexed, but not in despair"
"persecuted, but not abandoned"
"struck down,but not destroyed"
My husband who is close to retirement and has been with his employer for over 20 years received word yesterday that 27 employee's within his division will be let go with-in weeks. We who profess faith may very likely have the opportunity in coming days to practice what we preach.
-Rudi
"the stars are aligned, change will come"
ReplyDeleteOnly heathen fools heed the stars.
Anonymous 12:34,
ReplyDeleteFor what it's worth, I'm going to repost this from a few days ago:
An article in Newsweek by Eboo Patel (called the Rick Warren of Islam) ironically writes about Rick Warren. Apparently, Warren is no longer a Pastor but Patel calls him an "Interfaith Activist".
Quote:
"Rick Warren, Interfaith Activist
Rick Warren is our new Billy Graham - at the center of not only his own Christian tradition, but of American civil religion as well."
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/eboo_patel/2008/09/rick_warren_interfaith_activis.html
"This is a big deal, because it signals an important turn in the American Evangelical tradition - from viewing people of other faiths primarily as lost souls requiring conversion to viewing them as partners in the plan to make earth more humane and just. "Progressive Evangelicals" like Jim Wallis, Brian McLaren and Tony Campolo (read an interview here with Campolo on interfaith cooperation), have long been involved in interfaith efforts, but the mainline of that tradition has always been more wary. That could be changing.
That approach is American pragmatism at its best: a visionary leader engaging all possible partners in his plan to transform earth."
I don't know about you, but it's disconcerting to hear about "Evangelicals" trying to "transform" the earth.
I have heard that the obstacle to a one world religion is Christianity and Judaism and the obstacle to a one world government is the middle class. I would say the final assault on both is underway.
Blessings,
Deannie
To Constance and Dorothy,
ReplyDeleteRegarding accusations of racism for people who do not support Obama.
For me personally, politicians who try to play the race card with me are barking up the wrong tree because my 2nd great grandfather and a distant cousin were Union Veterans of the Civil War and both came back disabled veterans.
They were not only Vermont abolitionists, but they also put their lives on the line for what they believed in.
Ergo, I don't have any ancestral guilt to expiate. I am only responsible for my own behavior, and I have never been accused of oppressing any African Americans.
With regard to why I will not vote for Obama, I will paraphrase Michelle Malkin's comeback when someone implied she was a "racist."
It's not about the color of your skin, Senator Obama. It's about the color of your socialist politics......RED!!!!!
CHICAGO STYLE POLITICS
ReplyDeletehttp://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76714
DOROTHY
Speaking of the stars being aligned:
ReplyDeleteHere is an article in the Politico about a psychic named Elzabeth Joyce who says the stars are NOT aligned for Governor Palin tonight.
Dorothy you may be interested to know that the Politico (read widely by people in Washington) is giving a voice to paranoid rumors of rioting in the streets and no election by attributing them to this psychic.
Here's the link:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14219.html
Blessings,
Deannie
Barack Obama part of ACORN? Are you sure? The following comes right off of his "Fight the Smears" page:
ReplyDeleteBarack Obama Never Organized with ACORN
Discredited Republican voter-suppression guru Ken Blackwell is attacking Barack Obama with naked lies about his supposed connection to ACORN.
• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.
• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992.
In his capacity as an attorney, Barack represented ACORN in a successful lawsuit alongside the U.S. Department of Justice against the state of Illinois to force state compliance with a federal voting access law. For his work helping enforce the law, called “Motor Voter,” Barack received the IVI-IPO Legal Eagle Award in 1995. (For more about Barack’s career, check out our Obama bio.)
Ken Blackwell is best known today for disenfranchising Democratic voters in his dual role as Ohio Secretary of State and chair of George Bush’s Ohio campaign in 2004. To see him shed crocodile tears for the integrity of the vote while making accusations about Barack and ACORN with absolutely no basis in fact is disturbing.
Blackwell’s attacks against ACORN and community organizers continue a vile Republican pattern of mockery and viciousness against this noble profession. Community organizers are the very individuals Republicans should be celebrating for helping people to help themselves rather than depending on the government.
Very, very anonymous; since all of you here are determined to smear Obama's name!
I have no need to smear Obama's name -
ReplyDeleteHis actions,his voting record, his teachers, his mentors, his converts and even his own words speak for themselves - why would I need to add anything to except the bright light of truth to that mix?
And no, McCain does not offer anything better to me either.
I think that is coffee brewing - smell it?
DouginMI
Dear paranoid Anonymous above,
ReplyDeleteNo one here thinks exactly alike.
Many here are Christians , many are not.
The only color I see when I watch Barack Obama
is, as Susanna just mentioned above, RED.
The man is a Socialist through and through, but
you're mesmerised, so go ahead and vote for him. I'm a registered Democrat but I can't vote for him, no way. I'm just old enough to recognize a Pinko when I see and hear one
Enjoy your lifelong volunteer duty. Maybe you can get paid to agitate.
ANONYMOUS 4:09
ReplyDeleteIt's pretty obvious that you are part of the Obama Truth Squad. Until you document your comments from a neutral source, they remain just biased gossip.
Dorothy
FUNNY COMMENT
ReplyDeleteI heard that when Biden asked the Chuck Graham in the wheelchair to stand up, he expected Obama the Messiah to be in the audience and cure the guy, but Obama was a no show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mzbuRgnI4
Dorothy
Hi all,
ReplyDeleteI'm "anonymous from 12:45", and I neglected to substantiate my comments with links --
Tony Blair's Call for youth:
http://tinyurl.com/4mx3j9
Rick Warren part of Tony Blair's Advisory Council:
http://tinyurl.com/44pqwu
Rick Warren's purpose for a "global expansion of God's Dream":
http://tinyurl.com/4e4ff5
Also, my step-sister-in-law's daughter attends Saddleback, having gone to Africa last year, and my stepmother's church just became Purpose-Driven, so we are watching it.
Thanks so much for the red flags and flares, everyone. Someone needs to be looking up.
sarah
ACORN, OBAMA AND THE MORTGAGE MESS
ReplyDelete.....ACORN recognized very early the opportunity presented by the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) of 1977. As Stanley Kurtz has reported, ACORN proudly touted "affirmative action" lending and pressured banks to make subprime loans. Madeline Talbott, a Chicago ACORN leader, boasted of "dragging banks kicking and screaming" into dubious loans. And, as Sol Stern reported in City Journal, ACORN also found a remunerative niche as an "advisor" to banks seeking regulatory approval. "Thus we have J.P. Morgan & Co., the legatee of the man who once symbolized for many all that was supposedly evil about American capitalism, suddenly donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to ACORN." Is this a great country or what? As conservative community activist Robert Woodson put it, "The same corporations that pay ransom to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton pay ransom to ACORN."
ACORN attracted Barack Obama in his youthful community organizing days. Madeline Talbott hired him to train her staff -- the very people who would later descend on Chicago's banks as CRA shakedown artists. The Democratic nominee later funneled money to the group through the Woods Fund, on whose board he sat, and through the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, ditto. Obama was not just sympathetic -- he was an ACORN fellow traveler.
Now you could make the case that before 2008, well-intentioned people were simply unaware of what their agitation on behalf of non-credit-worthy borrowers could lead to. But now? With the whole financial world and possibly the world economy trembling and cracking like a cement building in an earthquake, Democrats continue to try to fund their friends at ACORN? And, unashamed, they then trot out to the TV cameras to declare "the party is over" for Wall Street (Nancy Pelosi)? The party should be over for the Democrats who brought us to this pass. If Obama wins, it means hiring an arsonist to fight a fire.
http://tinyurl.com/3ew4e6
VIRGINIA TEACHERS UNION SPARKS OUTRAGE WITH 'OBAMA BLUE DAY'
ReplyDeleteNEW YORK: Virginia Republicans are in uproar over state teachers union's effort to get educators to show their support for Barack Obama during school hours.
Virginia Republicans are in an uproar after the state teacher's union sent an e-mail to its members encouraging them to wear blue-colored shirts to school to show their support for Barack Obama....
......."Schools are not a place for politics and not a place for staff to wear political buttons," New York Department of Education spokeswoman Ann Forte told FOXNews.com.
"We don't want a school or school staff advocating for any political position or candidate to students and we don't want students feeling intimidated because they might hold a different belief or support a different candidate than their teachers," she said....read entire article....
http://tinyurl.com/5yul3t
ARE FOREIGN DONATIONS POWERING THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN?
ReplyDeleteJust how much in donations from foreign countries is pouring into the Obama campaign coffers is a question one FEC auditor would like to have answered.....
....Obama was forced to return $33,500 to a pair of Palestinian brothers who bought T-Shirts on the campaign's website - a clear violation of FEC rules and the law. The campaign claims to have returned the money but the brothers deny they have received a refund. There have also been numerous questions about other donations that appear to come from the Middle East - not surprising given Obama's connections to Tony Rezko (whose Middle East connections are mindblowing), Nadhmi Auchi, and other wealthy Arabs who might see an Obama presidency in a favorable light.
Then there was the curious case of a supposedly home grown video that was produced by a PR firm in Los Angeles owned by a huge, left wing, French media conglomerate. The money for the film and for the PR firm evidently came from Europeans.
There is little doubt that foreigners are licking their chops at the prospect of an inexperienced, naive, weak American president who will subsume American interests and cater to the whims of the UN while deferring the big questions to the Europeans. This isn't even taking into account Obama's strange policy toward Israel (where he says one thing but all his advisors say exactly the opposite) and the belief among Muslims that because he grew up in Indonesia, he will not be as forceful in prosecuting the war on terror....read entire article....
http://tinyurl.com/3jkzp4
Hi Dorothy,
ReplyDeleteI've never discounted anything you had to tell me - I deeply respect your research and observations. It's just taking me a little while to catch up to your level of expertise on Obama -- the Global Poverty Act was a major eye opener for me -- his pro-abortion advertising which has been heavy in Michigan even more so.
Constance
Regarding Obama; it is quite frustrating how even the media, here in Australia, will print detrimental articles about Palin and McCain yet somehow consistently overlook Obama's gaffes. Palin's lack of international inexperience seem to be the focus here yet she is actually more qualified than Obama. At least she knows that Pakistan is an ally and how many states comprise the US! Amazing!
ReplyDeleteHomophobic horse 2:41
ReplyDelete...obviously you're comment is aimed at the sham "religion" of astrology, and in that light you are absolutely spot on.
However, we are to be watchful for some very real "signs" in the heavens and on the earth...
Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Astronomical "signs" do qualify as "biblical". No man knows the day or hour, but we can't be blind to the season. Fact: our nearest star, the sun, is in an unusual decrease. With everything else coming to a head, I'd say all such "signs" are worth noting.
http://tinyurl.com/5a34hd
Solar wind decrease, from NASA..
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/3gmk93
A new Global Order of financial power...
ReplyDeletehttp://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-3554670,prtpage-1.cms
Bank lobby calls for global action on credit crunch
3 Oct, 2008, 0808 hrs IST,
WASHINGTON: An influential international banking lobby group has called for urgent and bold actions globally, particularly from European nations, to
stabilise troubled financial markets.
A systemic, internationally coordinated response in the US and Europe was essential at this point, even requiring large - if temporary use - of government funds, Charles Dallara, director of the Institute of International Finance (IIF), said Thursday.
"The global financial system is facing the most extraordinary challenges of the last eight decades, requiring prompt, internationally coordinated actions if a global recession is to be avoided," said an IIF letter drafted Thursday to finance ministers and central bank governors meeting in Washington next week at the International Monetary Fund (IMF).
Dallara said the IMF needed to play a leading role in addressing the financial turmoil and would have to urgently change to be effective in dealing with the financial crises of the 21st century.
He also called for the inclusion of emerging economies in the G-7, the group of leading industrialised democracies, echoing a call by
French President Nicholas Sarkozy at the UN General Assembly last week.
While acknowledging that US Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's $700 billion financial rescue plan "can have a catalytic effect on markets", Dallara said it wasn't enough. The US House of
Representatives could vote Friday on a second version of the emergency bill that failed Monday, sending markets plunging.
Dallara called Paulson's proposal "a turning point" because it showed the way ahead for governments to step in, in times of crises.
In its letter to the IMF, the lobby group noted that the world was at a crucial point in international regulatory development.
"Either we fall back into national approaches resulting in a fragmentation of the global regulatory environment, or we reach out to strengthen international coordination," it said.
Dallara told reporters that it was clear the IMF needed to change, and the financial meltdown showed that this was the time for it.
"There has been no better opportunity in the last 60 years, and no greater need, for the IMF to change," Dallara said.
He suggested that at its meeting next week, the IMF should frame a resolution to guide a compatible global approach to the turmoil and
perform the role of multilateral coordinator.
He also spoke of the benefits of European governments creating a common pool of funds that would tide them over future financial crises and assist banks that were burdened with toxic assets.
The ongoing credit crisis has made it clear that countries needed to take a broader, macro-economic view of finding innovative solutions, Dallara said, adding that "emerging markets deserve a larger presence at the decision-making table and in the G-7", referring to the group of leading industrialised nations.
"The G-7 has served the global financial system well for over two decades," the IIF chief said. "But, just as the G-5 gave way to the G-7 in the mid-1980s, so it is time to expand the G-7 to include ... several systemically important emerging market countries as full partners."
In an address to the UN General Assembly last week, France's Sarkozy called for adding new members to the exclusive G-8, which is the G-7 plus Russia, to reflect demands of emerging countries.
Under such proposals, the G-8 in particular could become the G-14, with new members like China, India, Mexico, South Africa and Brazil,
the emerging economic powers among developing countries, Sarkozy said. The group currently is comprised of the US, Germany, Italy, France, Canada, Japan, Britain and Russia.
Sarkozy said the world is still governed by 20th-century institutions. "Let today's major powers and the powers of tomorrow unite to shoulder together the responsibilities their influence gives them in world affairs."
To Anonymous 4:09
ReplyDeleteI am interested in the truth and certainly share your Blackwell concerns. Point me to your references. I do believe there is legitimate community organization work, so I would be interested in knowing which organizations employed Barack Obama in that capacity.
Constance
I have met and heard of Blacks active in the New Age Movement. Phyllis Warren, the woman I referred to in my book was African-American and extremely active in the New Age Movement as well as Detroit's Unity Church AND a Detroit Pentecostal church (Bethesda). BUT, if they read the fine print of the New Age Movement as closely as I have, they would realize they should have no viable stake in that movement which glorifies the continued upward evolution and ascension of THE ARYAN / CAUCASIAN race!
ReplyDeleteOprah Winfrey should read the fine print. She is as my dear Detroit black friends would say, "the wrong paint job" to rise to the top of the New Age Movement. However, with all her money, they may have proclaimed her the other favorite color of the New Age Movement: GREEN!
CONSTANCE
DEBATE COMMENT
ReplyDeleteWe have to look to the really knowledgeable people to see the things we average people can't catch. I really enjoyed this debate. Palin won. While I don't like his politics, Biden came across as likeable. More importantly, however, he didn't tell the truth.
http://minx.cc/?post=274757
14 lies in 90 minutes might not, however, be a political first.
Biden's 14 Lies
Fresh from the McCain people.
JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES TONIGHT
Dorothy
This caught my attention in the list at the link I just posted.
ReplyDelete13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
http://www.g20.org/G20/
"Although the G-20 is an informal forum, its discussions generate great interest.
"Even though the participation in the G-20 meetings is limited to the members, some members of the media are invited to the G-20 Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors Meeting, once a year.
"By the end of each Ministers’ and Governors’ Meeting, all agreements reached and results achieved throughout the year are made public. "
We need to hear more about this. Just what do we give up in order to cooperate? No press at the meetings? Is this why the rush to bailout package passed before the next meeting in November? After all the world banks may be getting first dibs on the bailout money because of the paper they bought from US corporations.
Dorothy
I read the Bible in the french version Martin 1855. It is derived from the Geneva Bible. One particularity is the way this man of God translated the Hebrew. This Bible is not very known.It is printed in the USA. Thank you for this ! (Dallas)
ReplyDeleteThis morning I read psalm 11 and the first vers struck me. I have withdrawn to the Lord (je me suis retiré vers l'Eternel).
I thought I should share this psalms with you. It is short but really for our time.
Psalm 11 KJV
1In the LORD put I my trust: how say ye to my soul, Flee as a bird to your mountain?
2For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the upright in heart.
3If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
4The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
6Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.
7For the righteous LORD loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright.
Frances
OBAMA'S 'NOT EXACTLY'S
ReplyDelete> 1.) Selma Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google' Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)
> 2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
> 3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
> 4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone.
Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.
> 5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
> 6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....
http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African
> 7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in islam'' http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559
> 8.) My School In Indonesia was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
February 28, 2008 . Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'
> 9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
> 10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
> 11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
> 12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
> 13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
> 14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My outlook on Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
> 15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
> 16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
> 17.) Oops, I Mis-voted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your mis-vote.
> 18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
> 19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
> 20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.
> 21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
> 22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
> 23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
> 24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
> 25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
> 26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
> 27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
> 28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
> 29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel .
> 30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.
> 31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
> 32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.
> 33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
> 34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.
> 35.) I don't Have Lobbysists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
> 36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
> 37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.
> 38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it
> GOD HELP US IF WE JUST SIT IDLY BY AND LET THIS PERSON BECOME OUR NEXT PRESIDENT. IT WOULD BE SUICIDAL FOR US TO DO NOTHING TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING. PASS THIS ON TO ALL THE ONES YOU VALUE, JUST AS I AM DOING. IT'S TIME THE 'SILENT MAJORITY' TAKE A STAND! GET OUT AND VOTE! PLEASE!
Richard E. Dixon
Attorney at Law
4122 Leonard Drive
Fairfax, VA 22030
703 691 0770 fax 703 830 7630
OTHER Things in the BAILOUT BILL
ReplyDeleteI am sure that many of you have heard about all the sweetners in the bailout bill to make it pass.
I was mad when I heard about the wool research, money for wooden arrows, etc.
Then last night I got furious, they had a congressman on from Iowa saying that they put in the bill money for those Iowans to help them with flooding.
That my friends seems like blackmail.
DEVELOPING...
I am trying to find the source. But I heard on the radio about an article from "Army Times" that there will be troops to have a division here in USA to help deal with civil unrest for the next year.
WHILE THE USA IS BUSY WITH ELECTION AND FINANCIAL CRISIS...
ReplyDeleteIt appears while the United States is busy with elections and the financial mess, things are shaking up abroad.
The PA has reportedly accepted a deal proposal by Olmert, the only problem seems to be Olmert no longer has the stroke to achieve his plan.
http://tinyurl.com/3oxnx7
This deal includes complete withdraw from Golan Heights, over 90% of Judea and Samaria, as well as giving Palestine 5% of sovereign Israel.
On the EU-Solana front, why build an army when you can pool with NATO? It appears EU and NATO have reached an agreement to pool resources in the way of helicopters and aircraft carriers, in an effort to deal with the ongoing crisis in Chad and Darfur. Could this be a preview of the type of strength Javier could have at his request?
http://tinyurl.com/4q3888
JD
I would like to make a comment about the previous post. I am a fairly new poster and I hastily clicked without clarifying. My apologies. The author of the list of "Obama's 'Not Exactly's'" is noted at the bottom of the post--Richard E. Dixon of Fairfax, VA. YesNaSpanishTown is not the author.
ReplyDeleteRichard E. Dixon is also NOT YesNaSpanishTown. I simply copied and pasted the info.
I am curious to know Dorothy's response to these items. Are these accurate?
Dawn,
ReplyDeleteHere is the link to the Armytimes article:
http://tinyurl.com/3sendx
sarah
Thanks Sarah,
ReplyDeleteI don;t know why I was having trouble finding it.
Constance,
ReplyDeleteIn response to:
"...However, with all her money, they may have proclaimed her the other favorite color of the New Age Movement: GREEN!"
__________________________
And as we all know ( or SHOULD know).....
GREEN IS THE NEW RED!
To all:
ReplyDeleteYesterday, I posted the following:
"There was a financial expert from Harvard on Fox and Friends this morning (Oct. 2) who didn't think the bailout was a good idea because of the probability that a lot of the bailout money would go overseas.
________________________
October 2, 2008
France seeks €300bn rescue fund for Europe
http://tinyurl.com/52ksbn
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I just spotted this on Drudge:
FRENCH PM SAYS WORLD "ON EDGE OF ABYSS"
".....Fillon said President Nicolas Sarkozy would propose at the emergency meeting measures to unfreeze credit and coordinate economic and monetary strategies.
European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet sounded an alarm on Friday's expected vote in the U.S. Congress.
"(U.S. Treasury) Secretary (Henry) Paulson's plan obviously must be passed," he told Europe 1 Radio.
"It must be. It is necessary."
Bad news mounted in the European financial sector.
In Switzerland, UBS AG, hardest hit among European banks by its exposure to subprime-related holdings, said it would cut 2,000 investment banking jobs -- on top of the 4,100 positions cut in the past year.
Worries grew that even if Washington agrees on the package, it will not be enough to resolve deeper-rooted weakness. New data showed that a U.S. recession is nearing and Europe's economy is worsening.
"Investors expect the U.S. House to approve the bailout, but even if that happens, it would have a neutral impact on the market as its effectiveness is still questionable," said Takahito Murai, general manager of equities at Nozomi Securities in Tokyo.
A collapse in the U.S. housing market and resulting "bad mortgages" has undermined confidence in the financial sector, with inter-bank lending and credit to businesses and private individuals all but seizing up. Central Banks have injected billions of dollars to maintain some flow of funds.
UNILATERAL ACTION
Divisions have emerged within Europe over the past week, with Ireland offering guarantees on bank deposits, prompting a flight of capital from British lenders to Irish banks, and Greece promising to safeguard savers' cash.
EU partners said Ireland's move could break competition rules and threatened the unity necessary to ensure an ordered approach to turmoil ahead........Read entire article.....
http://tinyurl.com/43z23r
Shame on Ireland for not allowing themselves to be dragged down to the same dead level of financial misery as their European "betters."
Another thing......this is one more piece of evidence that not only a good chunk of that bailout money is "earmarked" for overseas, but also that the bailout may not be enough!
Gee. It almost looks like a "subprime flavored" Cloward-Piven Strategy gone global?
Paul,
ReplyDeleteObama is not a communist or a socialist anymore than FDR was. And I wouldn't classify FDR as a socialist. Certainly, he's more liberal than McCain. JFK wasn't a socialist either, but he gave his famous "Ask not..." speech. Americans coming together, not relying always on the government, and attempting to solve their own problems in their own community is not just for communists and socialists. I thought the "Red Scare" was over.
By the way, Obama is not a fascist either. He is not another Hitler-wanna-be. He is not creating another Hitler youth organization, as Dorothy has eluded to. He's advocating community service by young people instead of drugs, gangs, and violence. It's doubtful he could even ignite some neo-Nazi group because he has the wrong skin color.
Has he associated with possible new age folks? Probably, it's hard to avoid all people when your running for president. Even John McCain couldn't avoid this.
And one last thing--Obama is not a Muslim!
Sorry DouginMi and Constance, but McCain has already given up on your state.
God Bless,
Your very anonymous; just call me WhiteGuyforObama
Hey white guy for Obama,
ReplyDeleteI've got to confess that I really was a huge fan of Obama's too. Then I discovered Jill Stanek and her story before the senate about babies left to die because they had been intended for abortion but unfortunately (for the babies) survived. Realizing that Obama would not defend these children that cannot defend themselves made me question whether or not he was sincere in really caring for the down-trodden here in the US and around the world. Would he really defend the poor or even middle-class me and give me all the great big HOPE he promised when he can't even take up for a tiny defenseless baby's right to have life? It's hypocritical to discriminate in terms of who deserves care, don't you think?
I do not like Mc Cain either and have decided not to vote in this election. That because I think Bush has done incredible damage to this country and as much as McCain sings a different tune, I hear the same voice.
So vote for Tweedledee instead of Tweedledum if you like, but he's a phony and liar just like all the rest.
Hi WhiteGuyforObama,
ReplyDeleteI know you have no clue who I am but for the record not even in an aletrnate universe would I conceieve of voting for McCain or Obama.
I am curious to find out what Mr. Jerome Corsi will find on his mission to dicover if Obama was born in Kenya as the facts seem to bear out so far. Yes, burden of proof has not been met, but we shall see. If he was - will you be willing to stand up WhiteGuyforObama and say he is a liar? Or have you drank the kool-aid?
The Muslim issue - lets see - we have either a closet Muslim or at the very least an individual who holds to some abhorant and heretical form of what may in some circles be refered to as christianity and I am using that in the loosest context you may imagine.
Communtarianism strikes a chord on many of his thoughts and ideas.
Has anyone stopped to say that the platform and ideas he is running on are democratic - thit is not Obama's platform as the sales job indictaes. McCain will say republican platform - funny Obama does not, too much of a negative connotation?
I am supposing from now until he is crowned by his minions as their conquerer we will continue to see theses individuals drop ina and express how much Obama says he will do.
But I digress, my origianl thought as to this election remains intact as I have stated in prior posts.
With the integrity and nerve to sign my own post.
DouginMI
PS - either way WhiteGuyforObama, what you are failing to realize - McCain or Obama, you loose.
Here's more from Obama's fight the smears.
ReplyDeleteHi everyone!
Barack Obama was actually sworn into the Senate on his family Bible. He's regularly attended church with his wife and daughters for years.
That's the truth -- Barack Obama is definitely a committed Christian.
I don’t know who starts these nasty rumors about his faith, but they’re really insulting to people of all faiths.
Learn the facts and see photos of Barack swearing into the U. S. Senate on the Bible:
http://my.barackobama.com/baracksfaith
Together we can make sure these negative and divisive attacks don't affect this election.
Thanks for your help.
What all you all gonna do from here on out? Stay holed up in your homes cowering with fear? Not even going to vote? I don't support McCain for President, but that leaves Ron Paul and Ralph Nader. C'mon, that's throwing your votes away!
Look, I'm new to your new age thing and Bible prophecy. From reading past blog entries you all use to focus on Javon Solana or something like that. That's a bit scary. I think I'm gonna find that Hidden Dangers book to learn more. It sounds a little nutty to me, but hey, I'll be open.
Now, all the comments aren't even about the new age thing, but Obama this and Obama that. The dude is not the antichrist! Maybe your Solana friend is. I always wondered about that EU.
WhiteGuyforObama
Let me explain,
ReplyDeleteI'm voting for Obama not because he's perfect. Every politician has some baggage. Only Jesus was perfect. America needs a change. Bush has been a disaster. The thought of another Bush makes me cringe. Obama is much farther from Bush than McCain.
Dorothy,
Your dear Sarah Palin also told some whoppers. Where was the substance? From reading all your comments (you and everyone) the new age thing will keep growing regardles of who's president. Shoot, they both voted for this idiotic bail-out. Like I said, McCain and Palin are not as much of a change as Obama and Biden. I was very impressed with Biden and am more confident in him. Obama made a good choice. Although, I thought Michigan has a Democratic female governer. She would've be a good choice, too.
WhiteGuyforObama
WhiteGuyforObama,
ReplyDeleteFor us Christians who believe the Bible and understand what the Bible teaches about issues such as abortion - we cannot in good conscience vote for someone who supports these things. It is important to know where each candidate lines up according to the clear teaching of scripture pertaining to issues of Biblical morality. Christian must take an active stand against unrighteousness. As a Born Again Christian I will be voting for McCain and not Obama this November.
OMG you have to be kidding me... I live in Michigan and our unemployment is higher now that it ever has been decades. She has run this state into the ground with her liberal policies.. Glad I can say I didn't vote for her, she is one reason I will never vote for a Dem.
ReplyDeleteSaraG
Dear 5:44
ReplyDeleteAmen to that.
SaraG
Yes, the New Age sounded nice and harmless when I first got into it, but it is NOT. It is not even nice for those who are not Christians. They demand loyalty just as much as your local fundamentalist church does.
ReplyDeleteWe were ostracized by our former church when we got doubts about its New Age elements, and we had been leaders in that church. We have been lonely ever since, over twenty years, and it's hard to be lonely when you are elderly, as we are.
We see right through Obama. That was easy after having to learn to see through the New Age.
Mariel
Sarah Palin came out for the two-state Israel solution at the debate last night. Not so good if one is a Christian. God said not to divide His land, and the division talked about by Bush and Rice is to give away Judea and Samaria and the Golan, making defense impossible or only possible by WMD.
ReplyDeleteMariel
REPLY TO WHITE GUY FOR OBAMA
ReplyDeleteThere is a difference between McCain and Obama although they seem to be moving in the same direction.
In one respect, both are realists rather than idealists. McCain has been in the seat of power for many years and wants to stay there. He knows how things operate at that level.
Obama comes out of Chicago politics where everything is corrupt and mafia connected. Chicago has spread its dirt to cover the state at this point. There is no Republican party or opposition in Illinois. This has been Obama's breeding ground. This is where he has learned and practiced his skills. This is where he has learned to lie and manipulate while smiling and to accept whatever orders he is given from the Chicago dons. Like a good soldier he knows his place and knows what he has to do to keep him in the system.
Chicago is more corrupt than Washington D.C. where there is still representation from those who hold different views.
In Chicago there would have been no votes against the bailout allowed. There are no opposition aldermen.
Being the corrupt brainless dweeb that he is, having no standards to uphold, he will do whatever the one world promoters ask him to do. He will then turn around and in a silky voice tell the public that he "tried" to do such and such for them but that we all must make compromises. He will claim that any opposition to his practices is based on racism. He will go along with his leaders who will pull whatever dirty tricks are needed to silence any opposition, Chicago style.
McCain know right from wrong and just may stand up against wrong political actions occasionally. Obama never will.
Dorothy
So Congress passed the bailout bill at the second attempt -
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/3r2m3x
"The House, which sparked market and political turmoil by rejecting an earlier version of the bailout on Monday by 228 votes to 205, voted 263 to 171 to pass the largest US government economic intervention since the 1930s."
2+6+3 = 11
1+7+1 = 9
Another 9/11 number!
Phil.
Mariel,
ReplyDeleteMy evangelical fundamentalist church has never demanded my loyalty. Our preacher preaches the Gospel and anyone can take it or leave it.
You should look around for a simple Bible believing denomination, and I think smaller is better.
Probably no church is perfect as no human being is perfect, but there are still a few good souls who just
preach salvation and reconciliation through Jesus
the Christ.
"The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesy"
( Rev.19:10 )
Respectfully,
Paul
All--
ReplyDeleteSenator Obama and Lawsuit
http://tinyurl.com/52unbz
Don't know if the certificate is real, or not. The point is the hiring of this *particular* attorney with his *particular* connections as previous bullying tactics.
Kinda' like the veiled (then retracted as "misunderstood") threat of legal action against anyone who published anything false (read "negative, but true:) against the Democratic candidate.
Google's new "blog tracker" ranks Constance's blog 4th when using "Javier Solana" as the search term.
ReplyDeleteSolana's Enemies and Co-Conspiritors--
ReplyDeleteAll,
Came across evidence of lingering hatred towards JS from the webpage of expat Kosovars living in Hungary. Seems that some disgruntled teenagers (that's who the authorities are blaming) put up fake obituary posters for Dr. Solana.
English page:
http://central.blogactiv.eu/2008/09/30/serbs-mourn-solana/
or
http://tinyurl.com/3fd5ot
Hungarian page:
http://srbija.blog.hu/2008/09/29/solana_halott
or
http://tinyurl.com/3snm49
No, I don't read or speak Hungarian--I just liked the layout of the page :)
Just like the Irish, with their "no" vote, earlier, Solana is racking up enemies along the way!
Also,
"Piggybacking" on Constance's comment regarding JS's name coming up in conjunction with Share, Int'l., here's a link about BC's workshop on "Transmission Meditation," to be held in London on November 23rd.
http://www.shareintl.org/events/upevents.htm
November 23rd is a Plutonian ingress day, as noted on the pagan calendar--
http://www.pagancalendar.co.uk/month.php?getdate=20081101
Here's some info regarding things that have happened (not, of course, from a Christian perspective) when Pluto is approaching Capricorn. Take note of the paragraph beginning "As Pluto nears Capricorn" to the end of the article. How topical! Seems that when this happens, people become confused and in turmoil; and are looking for a "way out."
http://tinyurl.com/yvr5gl
or
http://planetwavesweekly.com/parallel/articles/pluto_capricorn.html
The Share site also lists transmission meditation sites around the world, so I clicked on the Spanish one, as Dr. S. is Spanish.
Here's the Spanish site:
http://tinyurl.com/4yzomk
and, here's the site "somewhat" translated into English by Babelfish:
http://tinyurl.com/4p6bkn
What a tangled web we weave...
How different from our Lord's noting that he did not teach anything in "secret"!
Remember, friends, that God is light and there is no darkness in him.
7:23 PM
All,
ReplyDeleteNot on the topic of OB; but definitely on the topic of a one-world/watered-down/ecumenical religion:
Muslims Dedicate Mosque to Jesus Christ
http://tinyurl.com/3pjhwp
Note the site--those mediterranean countries that are part of the EuroMed agreement.
Censorship Towards Islam
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/3gkehj
"Non-Partisan" Voter Drive for Obama
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/4mbprx
And ACORN doesn't seem to be involved. Guess there are many others wiling to take up the slack.
Dorothy, it doesn’t surprise me that Chicago is corrupt; Massachusetts, the home of the swimmer and the farce of his white-wash, the home of the page manager Studds, Barney Frank and he didn’t know anything about the sex ring out of his home, never mind the powerful unions and the over-whelming control by ONE party. I doubt that these are the only examples we’d find in these United States.
ReplyDeleteObama supporters:
Jerome Corsi has proven a number of FACTS regarding Obama of which a few quotes, anyone of which disqualifies Obama, makes his running for President a sad statement of how far our socialist pandering society has fallen. However, when we hate this imperfect, but beautiful country which learned to set women free, establish child labor laws, and as some of our forefathers did, died or sacrificed so much to set African Americans free as well, we are hating the best of societies.
"After endorsing Obama to take her Illinois state senate seat, Alice Palmer arranged a function for a few influential liberals in the district at the Hyde Park home of Weather Underground activists Ayers and Dohrn to kick-off Obama's political campaign. [page 137]
• In 1995, Bill Ayers co-founded the Chicago Annenberg Challenge with a $50 million grant program for the Chicago public schools. Ayers selected Obama to be the first chairman of the board of the Annenberg Challenge, a position Obama held for eight years, until 2003, a period during which Ayers remained active with the Challenge. [page 138]
• Obama and Ayers both served on the board of the Woods Fund, at the time the Woods Fund made a $40,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network (2001), followed by an additional $35,000 grant (2002). The Arab American Action Network collaborated with the American Friends Service Committee to hold an exhibition in Chicago on "Al Nakba," translated as "The Catastrophe," meaning 1948 and the founding of the state of Israel. [pages 140-143]"
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75478
Not ENOUGH?
"Obama joined up with Rev. Wright and Trinity United Church of Christ precisely because Wright's outspoken profession of black-liberation theology matched the radical political ideology Obama himself professed as a result of the lessons he had learned from his life experience. [page 177]
• Rev. Wright continues to remain close to Farrakhan as witnessed by the Empowerment Award given Farrakhan in 2007 by Trumpet Newsmagazine, published by Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. [page 194"
Just let it SLIDE. Enough Germans let Hitler slide and what was the end of Germany? What will be our end?
All--
ReplyDeleteRan across the most unusual legal terms of agreement for accessing a site I've ever seen!
It's the APS: Arizona Public Service, an energy-producing entity for the state of AZ and other states in the Southwest.
Now, usually I'd list a URL. HOWEVER, the Terms of Agreement stated (I'm paraphrasing) that you were not to transmit a link by any means! In order to have people access the site, you were *encouraged* to tell people by word of mouth.
Search for APS Arizona Public Service, if your're interested in seeing the site. Then, click on the Terms of Use in the lower lefthand corner to see if you want to go further and access the site.
The reason I'm posting this is because the phrase, The Power to Make it Happen" on a graphic of a man on a telephone pole seemed like a kind of "buzzword" to me.
So...,I search on the term, and up comes:
"The Power to Make It Happen: Mass Community Organizing and How It Works" by Donald R. Keating. 1975. Green Tea Publishers.
Also, there's a little Flash graphic with the words "Change Their Future" on the page. Well, we all are well aware of the current "change" mantra.
I suppose nothing is as it seems, nowadays.
Dear Mariel:
ReplyDeleteI caught the "two state solution" too and was disturbed by that answer. My guess is that was fed her by the briefing team . . . but still, if she knows prophecy, that should be an obvious one. Maybe with 5 kids and a full time political job, she hasn't had as much time to stay on top of it as the rest of us. She SEEMS sincere . . .
Constance
For the record and out of fairness to Rev. Jeremiah Wright, I do believe I recall him specifically condemning Farrakhan in his 2008 NAACP speech in Detroit which I watched recorded on CNN. I am going to see if I can find that or a transcript.
ReplyDeleteI have to confess, he was much more entertaining than Al Sharpton -- I didn't disagree that terribly much with much of his Detroit speech -- I didn't hear the Press Club one in Washington the next day, so I can't presently comment on that.
Constance
I have come across the most vile book imaginable- in terms of defiling the Old and New testaments! I refuse to name it here, as it is very dangerous, but the reason I am talking about this book tonight is that I just came across proof of something that I suspected before even reading the book, but which I gleened in much more depth ironically after reading the book. I don't think that's a coincidence.
ReplyDeleteI am convinced that the Gnostics and their New Age counterparts are trying their best to KILL God, and His divine son Jesus, through their scientific work at CERN. If you have not read about the "God Particle" and what they are trying to do through the Hadron Colider, here is a quote from Faith World, a Reuters blog,
"One of the most brilliant simplifications I’ve ever come across is the term “the God Particle.” Physicists think this subatomic speck of matter, if it is ever found, could explain the mysterious code at the origin of the physical world. To know this would be to “know the mind of God,” as Einstein wanted to do."
Link here:
http://tinyurl.com/436gtv
I have come to realize that the purpose of the Hadron Colider is to find the Higgs Boson and field. If they can find it they will attempt to kill God by murdering his divinity by saying his creation can be reproduced by man.
If you are a scientist or physicist you may understand this article better than I by reading this Nat'l Geographic article:
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/god-particle/achenbach-text/1
However, whether you understand the scientific stuff or not, what I am certain about is this: Once they get the Hadron Collider working again (it malfunctioned thankfully a few weeks ago), I believe that they intend to start talking about this God Particle stuff in terms that people can understand very, very soon! Why? To plant seeds. The seeds will lead to doubt about our faith if they are successful. If they are not successful in destroying our faith I believe they intend to use the collider to destroy the world. Again, this was encoded in the book that I just finished reading. I am telling you this because I believe it is connected to the end times events that are rapidly approaching .
How did I get all these ideas? I came across the weirdest link back in June-ironically when I first started researching Barack Obama in earnest,as well as evolution, and that led me to all of this stuff. I don't think I should share the link here, but the link I found contained a conversation between one of the 10 highest so-called Illuminati masters in the world sharing some secrets within this book (obviously written by them or an agent provocateur as Dorothy would say) on a particular website that has studied the Ark of the Covenant and ancient religions to an in-depth degree. The website is very credible due to the fact the owner is a well known author and journalist. He (the Illuminati member, not the author) claimed that a book had been written in heavy code that had the answers to the truth behind everything since the beginning of time. It talked about a Voynich manuscript and the fact that David Ickes had gotten some of his info right, but was mistaken about the true enemies to humanity. Intrigued, I downloaded the book for free (imagine that) in order to read the horrific thing.
I did read the whole thing but praise God have survived the deception that the book produced initially. This is why I don't want to share the links.
I am only posting this to warn you that the Hadron Collider/CERN/The God Particle/Higgs Boson search are launched by gnostics intending to deceive the world and especially believers in Jesus Christ, as well as Yahweh, and convince them that our God is a fake. The stuff they came up with in that book was compelling, which is why I realize how dangerous it is. I am sorry if I have offended anyone by spelling God's name out in full. But I needed to make myself clear.
I know I sound like a nutcase, but try to remember this comment in upcoming weeks and months.
Please pray. I am certain that we are at the cusp of the end, and that many are going to be deceived, and that it won't just be their New Age church that is feeding them poison!
U.S. ARMY TROOPS TO SERVE AS U.S. POLICEMEN?
ReplyDeleteBy Chuck Baldwin
October 1, 2008
NewsWithViews.com
According to the Army Times (dated Tuesday, September 30, 2008), "Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT [Brigade Combat Team] will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks."
The article continued by saying, "But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.
"After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one."
The Times column also reported that the Army brigade "may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control . . ." It seems that the Army's new domestic duties also include "traffic control" as well as subduing "unruly or dangerous individuals."
The brigade will be known for the next year as a Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF (pronounced "sea-smurf").
I am assuming that the planners and promoters of this newfound function for the Army brigade envision the Army assisting local first responders in dealing with natural emergencies such as hurricanes, earthquakes, and the like. Good intentions notwithstanding, to assign domestic police duties to the U.S. military is extremely disturbing.
To understand my concern for this new "homeland Army brigade," it is important that we rehearse the principles of liberty as they relate to standing armies.
One of America's most sacred principles has always been that the U.S. military was never to be used for domestic law enforcement. The fear of standing armies ran very deep in the hearts and minds of America's founders. The tyranny and misery inflicted upon the colonies by British troops weighed heavily upon those who drafted our Constitution and Bill of Rights. In their minds, the American people would never again be subjected to the heavy weight of army boots. Furthermore, they insisted that America would have a civilian--not military--government.
And after the fiasco of the abuse of federal troops in the South following the War Between the States, the doctrine of Posse Comitatus was enacted into law. The Wikipedia online encyclopedia says this about Posse Comitatus:
"The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services ... from exercising nominally state law enforcement police or peace officer powers that maintain 'law and order' on non-federal property. . . .
"The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the United States National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. . . .
"The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act substantially limit the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement."
The Posse Comitatus Act was passed in 1878 and was universally accepted as being a very just--and extremely important--law of the land.
But in 2006, President George W. Bush pushed a Republican-controlled Congress to pass the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007, which included a section titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies." This section provided that "The President may employ the armed forces to restore public order in any State of the United States the President determines...." In effect, this bill obliterated Posse Comitatus.
When the Democrat-controlled Congress passed the 2008 National Defense Authorization Act, however, the restrictions of Posse Comitatus were restored. But when President Bush signed the Act into law, he attached a signing statement (Executive Order) indicating that the Executive Branch did not feel bound by the changes enacted by the repeal. Translated: President Bush wiped out Posse Comitatus by Executive Order.
Now, just a few months after expunging Posse Comitatus, President Bush has authorized an Army brigade to be assigned the new role of dealing exclusively with domestic law enforcement and related duties. This evokes serious questions.
Who will give the order to send U.S. troops against American civilians, and under what circumstances? What will the rules of engagement be? How will "unruly" and "dangerous" be defined? How will soldiers be asked to deal with "crowd" or "traffic" control? And perhaps the biggest question is, Once we begin to go down this road, where will it lead?
For several years, the federal government has been accumulating to itself more and more authority that was historically understood to reside within the states and local communities. More and more, our police departments have taken on the image and tactics of the armed forces. And to a greater and greater degree, the rights and liberties of the American people are being sacrificed on the altar of "national security." It seems to me that to now ascribe law enforcement duties to the U.S. Army only serves to augment the argument that America is fast approaching police state status.
If Hurricane Katrina is the template that our federal government is using as a model for future events, Heaven help us! Do readers remember how National Guard troops were used to confiscate the personal firearms of isolated and vulnerable civilians shortly after that hurricane devastated the New Orleans area? Do you remember how representatives of the federal government were calling upon pastors and ministers to act as spokesmen for gun confiscation? Is this what the new Army brigade is preparing for? And do President Bush and his military planners envision an even broader role for military troops on American soil?
Add to the above rumors of thousands of plastic caskets--along with thousands of portable prison cells--being shipped and stored across the country, and one is left to ask, Exactly what is it that our federal government is planning?
I think there is an even bigger question, What exactly will members of our armed forces do if and when they are commanded to seize Americans' firearms, arrest them at gun point, or even fire upon them? How many soldiers and Marines love liberty and constitutional government enough to resist such orders, should they be given? And how many officers would resist issuing such orders?
Remember, it is the job of the armed forces to kill people and blow up things, not to do police work. Then again, Presidential administrations from both major parties have been using the U.S. military as U.N. "peacekeepers" for decades now. So, was all of this preparation for what is yet to take place in the United States?
God forbid that any of the above should actually take place in our beloved land, but I believe it would be naïve to not see that the actions and attitudes of the federal government over the past several years do nothing to assuage such fears.
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin472.htm
Comment on the Jordanian mosque article...
ReplyDeleteJordan is not tolerant at all. Believers are regularly harassed and persecuted in Jordan..
Hi Young Grasshopper,
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, you've got it 100% right. I came away with the same thought as you have. After I read the main article about the temporary halt of the operations of the Hadron Collider I noticed within the body of the article they have links to 5 chapters from
"The Big Bang Machine" It was clear to me there is no attempt to disguise what these scientists are hoping to establish as "scientific fact"
They refer to it as "The Big Bang" machine for a reason.
“In the beginning was the big bang..”… “And to get back there, they're getting ready to blast subatomic particles so energetically that the extreme conditions of the freshly born universe will be re-created on Earth.,, Goes on to talk about “The God Particle”
Much more than simply an atom smasher. “…find evidence of a hypothetical particle — the Higgs boson — which is sometimes called the "God particle" because it is believed to give mass to all other particles, and thus to matter that makes up the universe.” Thanks YG.
-Rudi
Chapter 1:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24525554/
September 20th article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26802846
“He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.” Colossians 1:17
FOUND AT THE-OBAMA-NATION BLOG
ReplyDeleteMaryanne (Young Grasshopper) has taken down her valuable blog. Maryanne, you are going thru burnout as we all do at one time or another. Taking a stand against evil is not a fun hobby, and those of us who do it seriously feel under tremendous pressure at times. Some can only do it for a short period of time. Others attempt to last. Without the information put out by someone who has tried to inform, we would all be left in darkness. I know that without some housewives in Kansas who informed me about Humanism in 1979, I would not be here. It took them several years before they let me know what they knew because they thought I was just too liberal to be on their side. We have lost touch and I doubt they know now the chain of events they started.
Now for more Obama information found in the comments at the YG blog.
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/jungsturm-barack-obama/ or
http://tinyurl.com/3pufrl
The real Obama Nation is a dung pit, and only by the help of others do we see the pieces uncovered. Constance has documented that a NA leader said the New Age movement was first tried with a disciple on the Rhine. How many parallels with that movement do we have to see appearing before our eyes here in the US to accept that it is happening again. Is the school in the video the only place this kind of military style indoctrination is taking place? Even if it is the only one it is disturbing.
I have been following the information on Obama intensely and yet this is the first I heard of this. How much more don't I know?
Thanks Maryanne.
Dorothy
THANKS JOLO01.SA
ReplyDeletefor all of the helpful leads. It's obvious you spend time working at research.
As you and Deannie show, one of the problems with astrology is that the symbols can be used to prop up almost whatever the reader wants to see in them, thus impinging on another's free will, leading to self-fulfilling prophecies.
From one of your links:
KUWAIT CITY : Kuwait Human Rights Society (KHRS) Chairman Dr Adel Al-Damkhi has asked the government to put pressure on the officials of ‘YouTube’ — a video sharing website — to delete all derogatory statements about Islam and Muslims from the site, reports Al-Seyassah.
Reminds me of the actions of a certain politician who is using a lawyer who does the same thing.
Will we have to set up a secret code to talk with each other in the future? As in "if I talk about a can of peas you will know I am talking about Obama."
Dorothy
Hey all,
ReplyDeleteThe peas are rotten.
The can is is inside out
REPEAT
The peas are rotten
The can is inside out
Shirley
Also:
ReplyDeleteDo not trust the sliced peaches!
Also, the can is rusty and has holes.
Also,
The snows of Kilamanjaro are beautiful this year,
and the good doctor is asleep all day with a
green cat (calico).
Mike
Whoops !
ReplyDeleteMeant to post as anonymous
Above two post are anonymous, not paul
YG-
ReplyDeleteI want to take the time to say thank you for your blog. I am sorry that you took down your information.
I understand that you felt that you were possibly judging the can of peas. I don't think that is the case. At least, I never felt that when I read the information.
You merely were showing us what has gone into the can of peas.
I think what you have discovered, once you opened the can of peas it really was opening a can of worms.
God Bless and don't stop writing and researching important information. One person can not do it all. You are a vital part of this process.
Sorry Dorothy, your living in the past. You can't get me to believe Chicago politics is any less corrupt than any other major urban area. Maybe a long time ago.
ReplyDeleteSorry, the abortion issue is not my issue. When people start bringing up that topic, either pro or con, I cover my ears.
WhiteGuyforObama
YG…. Constance, et al….
ReplyDeleteMen’s hearts failing them for… what?
A man in my church fellowship joined the Hitler Youth at age 10. As the tide of the war turned against the NAZI’s, they put a uniform on this little boy’s back and a rifle in his hands and sent him and all his little buddies off to the Eastern Front to “bolster” the battered troops. It was kind of like sending chickens to the butcher shop at that point.
My friend was captured almost immediately (fortunately for him considering the alternative) by the Russian army and spent a year and a half in a Soviet prison. (Oh what joy he must have had!)
Following Hitler’s defeat, just after his 12th birthday, this boy was released and eventually made his way back to his home town in Germany. He tells of walking the bombed out streets looking for anyone he might know. He found only charred ruins and every person he had ever known was dead.
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
As far as “signs” go….solar scientists say our own star, the sun, has entered a prolonged and unusual period of “calm”…and that’s not a good “sign”. Genetic engineering, the (yawn) wholesale slaughter of the nearly born, the “Hadron Collider” black hole machine, the rise of world leaders such as Solana and Obama…..all these, and yes, especially the insatiable and prideful quest for “knowledge”, are all “signs” that this generation is well beyond the “tipping point”.
Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Rev 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
That’s war my friends. We have no freakin' idea how bad it's going to get before our Redeemer returns. It's only words on a page that we can't really relate to at this point.
REPLY TO WHITE GUY FOR OBAMA
ReplyDeleteYou wrote:
"Sorry Dorothy, your living in the past. You can't get me to believe Chicago politics is any less corrupt than any other major urban area. Maybe a long time ago."
Trust me. I would never try to convince you that Chicago politics is less corrupt than any other major urban area. Fitzgerald and company, working day and night for decades, couldn't achieve that miracle.
Dorothy
Lyndon Larouche isn't mincing his words today:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.larouchepac.com/news/2008/10/03/larouche-there-no-excuse-support-bailout-bill.html
paul
White Guy,
ReplyDeletePlease don't take this the wrong way, but why do you put your faith in the words of a man and his spin machine? Many here have not only shown proof from objective sources that say Obama is not what he appears to be, and all you seem to be able to do is spout quotes from his web page. If you wish to change the views of others I would start by providing objective proof, not just a tag line from a web page. Obama cannot wash away his history, Odinga is a prime example of this. For clarifications sake, I will not support any liar in washington, Obama, McCain, or other. If you take any of them simply at their word with out doing any further research then you have ALLOWED yourself to be deceived. On election day I plan to write in Jesus Christ, you can call it throwing away a vote, but at least I will have let the powers that be know where I stand!
JD
White Guy,
ReplyDeletePlease don't take this the wrong way, but why do you put your faith in the words of a man and his spin machine? Many here have not only shown proof from objective sources that say Obama is not what he appears to be, and all you seem to be able to do is spout quotes from his web page. If you wish to change the views of others I would start by providing objective proof, not just a tag line from a web page. Obama cannot wash away his history, Odinga is a prime example of this. For clarifications sake, I will not support any liar in washington, Obama, McCain, or other. If you take any of them simply at their word with out doing any further research then you have ALLOWED yourself to be deceived. On election day I plan to write in Jesus Christ, you can call it throwing away a vote, but at least I will have let the powers that be know where I stand!
JD
White Guy,
ReplyDeleteIf you have been following this blog for any time, you will have seen repeated links to pictures, videos, articles that either hint, or out right proclaim, Senator Obama is Messiah.
While I've not heard that Senator Obama has personally made such hints or claims, he has done nothing (to my knowledge) to stop such talk. (Although one wonders about his comments on the falling of the oceans and a light will shine down and people will have an epiphany - those certainly have Messianic overtones.)
I am born again Christian and the fact that he has done nothing to end this blasphemy is all the proof I need that he is not a genuine Christian. No genuine Christian would ever countenance such blasphemy on their behalf! Until Senator Obama forcefully repudiates this blasphemy, all claims at Christianity ring hollow. He may not be a Muslim, but he is most certainly not a follower of the true Savior, Jesus Christ.
Blessings,
Deannie
Constance and all,
ReplyDeleteFirst off, thanks to Dorothy and Rudi and Dawn, and all the others who have always helped me here. Regarding my blog, I think the enemy did get inside of my head while I was reading that horrific book, and perhaps that's why it(the blog) came down. Whatever, I want to seek God's will in what I do, before I do anything else with the blog.
To Constance ,
I've got a theory about the paradox regarding Oprah and Obama and the New Age. Yes, Hitler was trying to create a super Aryan race that had no room for blacks. But he failed. Why? The truth as I see it, is that these Jesus hating Gnostics with Blavatsky and her likes worshipping their light-bearer Lucifer have much to do with a concept that falls in line with Obama's rapid rise to power. The concept is called meritocracy. Meritocracy is elitism, but it's more about intellectual elitism (gnosis) than physical elitism. Hence all the talk about light-bearers and Obama being a highly evolved being that surrounds Obama's mystique is connected to this concept. These people behind this concept/movement are obvious in their connection to New Age/ gnosticism, and also seemingly connected with Illuminati principals. These may be the same people who are also deliberately bringing down our economy to reach their goals.
If you want to understand this stuff more, I'd suggest that you connect the dots between meritocracy, social Darwinism, and Thomas Malthus (whose name ironically means demon.)He was the real father behind the environmental/sustainable development movement in the world that promotes abortion, euthanasia and homosexuality to reduce the world's population. Just be extremely careful and prayerful if you get into any in-depth reading of this stuff- it can be very deceptive.
Back to Obama and how he fits in-this Malthus concept fits perfectly with why Obama had to stay staunch in his radical vote for what's basically infanticide. IMHO, the elements in Obama's campaign go much further than marxisim, and that's what's been so confusing. This is all about the garden of Eden and the poisonous seed that was produced there which is hell bent upon destroying those extremist Jews and Christians who go against their true God, who is Lucifer, the Gnostic's angel of light and knowledge. Finding the Higgs Boson particle has everything to do with the root of mass, as Rudi said, and in finding it (which they won't) they intend to destroy the evil creation which is us and our God, who is the TRUE god, if you're listening here Mike.
Jesus' words and actions were and are pure light,pure goodness and pure illumination of the real truth through and through. The bible verses that Oldmanoftheski brought forth are extremely relevant here, and I thank him for that.
BTW, was the guy who signed himself Mike really Paul? Just curious.
McCain a liar? I'm not supportive of McCain's politics, obviously, I think their "wrong headed" like Bush. However, McCain believes in what he says. He is a good guy, like Biden said, but he's too close to Bush.
ReplyDeleteBelieving Obama is the Messiah? Maybe some crazies out there. My faith and hope lie in Jesus Christ, not Obama or any president. I just think Obama would make the better President. Who do you say is the Messiah?
Well, folks, I'm done with this blog site. Only like minded allowed. Just don't sit at home cringing about the end of world. Rejoice, Lord Jesus is coming. Oh, whether your for Obama or not, at least get out and vote. Might be your last time if you people are right about all that prophecy stuff.
God Bless,
WhiteGuyforObama
“The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows us his handy-work”. Psalm 19:1
ReplyDelete… And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring… ( I dare say, a telescope won't be necessary to view this)
Man, in his pursuit of knowledge i.e. “finding our origins” are embracing the spirit of their predecessor, Lucifer. The Most High God is not being honored by these scientists as the supreme Creator He is. Man is being elevated to the position of god, the true God is brought down and redefined as a “particle” or "force". It is no longer difficult for me to understand how a man will be “worshiped and honored” as “God” by humans.
2007-2009 were designated as the “International Year of Planet Earth” (IYPE)
Planet Earth received the honor for 2008. 2009 has been declared the “INTERNATIONAL YEAR OF ASTRONOMY” (IYA2009)
http://www.astronomy2009.org/
While the very vastness of the Universe causes me to acknowledge, and reverence it’s obvious Creator, the majority of these “brilliant” personalities are acknowledged atheists, who envision this year long event as a medium which will, “help the citizens of the world rediscover their place in the Universe through the day- and night-time sky, and thereby engage a personal sense of wonder and discovery…and understand how scientific knowledge can contribute to a more equitable and peaceful society.” This current “sacred universe” “origin of man” focused research parallels to the smallest detail, a Pantheistic world- view. Carl Sagan, the now deceased, famed “Grandfather” of “COSMOS” has said,
“ A religion old or new, that stressed the magnificence of the universe as revealed by modern science, might be able to draw forth reserves of reverence and awe hardly tapped by the conventional faiths. Sooner or later, such a religion will emerge.” (Pale Blue Dot) FYI watch the short video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47EBLD-ISyc
For a clearer perspective on what a
Pantheistic worldview entails and to understand the parallels:
http://www.pantheism.net/
While I've watch the following video numerous times over the past few weeks, last night it was coming through with a lot of static and interference. Maybe due to high traffic at the site, I don't know.
It is a dramatic introductory trailer available on the IYA2009 home page. As the short video progresses the following words appear:
“400 Years After Galileo Pointed His Telescope To The Sky
Scientists, Hobby Astronomers, And The Public Will Join Together…
…To Celebrate A Year Which Will See The Universe Brought Down To Earth”
(The phrase above brought to mind the occult phrase, “As Above, So Below” What do you think Farmer?) I have some additional related information to add to this topic but for the moment,having taken up enough space here, I’ll wait a bit. -Rudi
Two to listen to and view:
ReplyDelete1. http://www.europac.net/media/PeterSchiff_10-01-2008.mp3.
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZMtROqL0rI&watch_response.
Some members of Congress were told martial law would result if they failed to vote for bailout:
ReplyDeletehttp://digg.com/business_finance/Rep_Brad_Sherman_Congress_told_Martial_Law_if_vote_is_NO
Watch this video of Congressman Brad Sherman D-CA.
Deannie
I just had another thought and wondered if it made any sense. I have started to wonder if that enigmatic seal that's been placed as background on every one of Obama's website pages is intended to be prophetic.
ReplyDeleteI wrote about the seal in length a while back on my blog and it was the first thing that made me initially suspicious of BO, well before most other people ever were.
Here's a partial of what I wrote on my blog:
I wrote that I suspected the white bird to be a phoenix, the occultic bird rising from the ashes that recently played such a prominent part in the Beijing Olympics.
In case the white guy for Obama is still lurking, here's a little insight into the Phoenix.
After its death, the Phoenix Bird arises to live anew. Thus, the Phoenix portrays a Messianic type ministry, in that it arose again. Therefore, this legend parallels Jesus’ Resurrection. This is the reason the Masters of the Illuminati seized upon the Phoenix Bird as one of their symbols of the coming New World Order of Antichrist. They plan on staging the False Christ, whom we will know is Antichrist. Thus, the symbol of the Phoenix Bird perfectly fulfills their plan and can perfectly serve as the symbol of that Man of Perdition.
The following are quotes from a couple New Age occultists privy to information about Illuminati symbols:
“Lest you think this tie-in of the Phoenix Bird to Lucifer is one occultist's imagination, listen to Barbara Walker, a radical feminist. She says that the Egyptians and Phoenicians believed that the Phoenix Bird was the representation of a god who "rose to heaven in the form of a morning star, like Lucifer, after his fire-immolation of death and rebirth…”” [Walker, Now Is The Dawning ", p. 281]
"The Phoenix ... is believed to be a divine bird going back to Egypt ... This Phoenix destroys itself in flames and then rises from the ashes. Most occultists believe that the Phoenix is a symbol of Lucifer who was cast down in flames and who they think will one day rise triumphant.
Now back to the hidden picture on Obama’s website:
The bird is turned to the left, unlike the eagle on the seal of the one dollar bill, whose head is turned to the right. What I have learned is that since the Phoenix Bird is looking to his left, we know that he is carrying the world to a new location despite the fact that the peoples of the world are opposed to where they are being taken. In occult symbolism, when a bird is pictured looking to his right, it means that he is supportive of something and when he looks to his left, he is in opposition. The bird is sitting on top of the circular Obama logo of the crescent sky and morning star rising above the stripes, which I believe represents the world as well as the morning star rising. So apparently, the Phoenix Bird is seemingly carrying the world captive and taking it to the new location, which is the New World Order of Antichrist. The wings on the bird are spread in active flight which indicates that this new location is going to be arrived at quickly, and without much further delay.
Here are some new thoughts that I've had since writing that post.
Could the spear that we see going through the torn flag represent the Spear of Destiny? In New Age circles the Spear of Destiny is supposed to be the sword that was plunged into Jesus' heart after he was crucified. New Agers attribute supernatural powers to the Spear of Destiny and in fact Hitler is reputed to have attempted to possess it to win his war. So , it would be in keeping with the sick minds of these people to use the symbol of the Sword of Destiny to bring down the power and sovereignty of the US.
I was also perplexed by the Z above the stars on the Obama seal.
If you look above the bird you'll see the words, Z Pluribus Unum. We all know that E PLuribus Unum was considered a motto for the US until 1956, when it was changed to “In God We Trust”. According to Wikipedia, it says that these words in Latin mean, “Out of Many, One.” So what does the Z mean? Today it occurred to me that it may represent Zion. There are many references to Zion and The Phoenix in the upcoming 2012 Olympics, by the way. According to the dictionary Zion means a couple things, but most striking is that Zion represents the Jewish homeland. It also means utopia.
What then is the significance here? Could it be that the Antichrist will arise out of the Middle East Peace Treaty that will negotiate Jerusalem? Where the abomination that causes desolation will show his true colors? Is the Z PLuribus Unum an indication that Obama intends to broker this peace process?
Or maybe Obama is trying to tell people he's really a Jew. Will he do what Haille Selassie did and come out and tell people that he's a descendant of Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, who was of course from Ethiopia? To this day the Rastafarians believe that Selassie was the Alpha and the Omega, the Messiah. Just like Obama, Selassie was remiss in doing nothing to discredit the idea, nor did he dismiss the people's adoration of him in the Caribbean.That is a shame, but goes to show what can happen if you claim the right lineage.
Finally, someone here on this blog, possible Joyce, mentioned that the right wing of the bird looked just like a jet airplane.
So if we use the theory above that the hidden seal is a prophecy put out by the Obama campaign,to let the gnostics/New Agers of the world see he's claimed position that he's THE ONE, then no wonder he's had no resistance anywhere from the liberal media. The seal's "prophecy" seems to be saying that Obama's logo in the bird's talons represents a phoenix (Antichrist figure) taking the Obama Nation (United States) to the place where the final capstone will be put in place. The Peace treaty in Israel will be brokered, his true identity will be revealed, and America as we've known it will be in ruins. (torn flag).The bombing of the twin towers was the first significant step. The collapse of the dollar will be the next in ruining America for good. Lucifer himself, the white star rising, will use the spear of destiny (sacrilegiously representing Jesus) to enslave the citizens.
Okay, I've written plenty for one day, and I apologize for taking up so much room. But would welcome other people's thoughts on this idea very much.
Obama is not exactly who he says he is...
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/3lkoky
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1847053,00.html?cnn=yes
ReplyDeleteTime Magazine article about how Pentecostal churches exacerbated the subprime mortgage crisis.
Young Grasshopper,
ReplyDeleteI was just on Senator Obama's website. It was very hard to see that logo you discussed because it only appeared infrequently and briefly as I transitioned from one web page to another. Do you have a screen shot of it? The whole "movement" thing creeps me out - especially with the videos of the children that Dorothy provided. When we combine that with all the Messianic blasphemy, it is a very disturbing picture.
Deannie
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll163/mcouncil_2008/obamaback.jpg
ReplyDeleteNever mind,I answered my on question. Here is link.
Deannie
All--
ReplyDeleteSenator Obam's Major Campaign Contributors (PACs)
http://tinyurl.com/5r8ten
Any names look familiar?
Having seen the Obama logo. What struck me was the EU type stars encircling the bird. Rather inappropriate for an american I would have thought
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cephasministry.com/nwo_symbols.html
ReplyDeleteLong time lurker, but I had to post this. I was just looking for pics of a phoenix to compare and came upon this!!! Look at the paragraph under the second heading. I don't know this site or if it's credible, but interesting nonetheless.
c.alt
C.ALT,
ReplyDeleteInteresting post, if true could add a diferent twist on Obama's logo.
C.alt,
ReplyDeletehttp://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17395
WND article on the lapel pin worn by Cindy McCain and Hillary Clinton. (Apparently also worn by Tipper Gore and Barbara Bush).
Deannie
The interesting characteristics of the awaited Mahdi are stated as the following:
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/4hn6at
Sunni & Shia Sources-
(1)Name is Muhammad
(2)He is tall
(3)Facial features similar to those of Prophet Mohammad
(4)He receives his knowledge directly from 'God'
Sunni only sources-
(1)He is fair complexioned
(2)He has a broad forehead & appointed nose
(3)He speaks with a slight stutter
(4)He occasionally hits his hand upon his thigh when he stutters
(5)His age at the time of emergence is 40 years like Muhammad
More Characteristics:
http://tinyurl.com/3nekm7
(1)Lineage: from the children of Fatima
(2)Handsome; divine light of his face reaches for his head and the black of his hair
(3)Sign of Prophet on his shoulder: between his shoulders resembling spots between his two shoulder blades on the part of the left shoulder blade
(4)His Complexion: Dark skinned but fair
(5)His Stature: His body is like that of the children of Israel (his manners look like that of the children of Israel)
(6)His Height: Normal(most prophecies state that he is tall)
(7)His Age: Thirty- to in his forties
(8)His beard: His beard is copious and thick
(9)Various Other characteristics:
(a)good moral character
(b)much loved by everyone
(c)will be a 'contender'
(d)have the power of 'guiding'
(e)innate knowledge
(f)vicious 'propagandas' will be spread against him
(10)His physical Appearance:
(a)broad forehead
(b)small nose
(c)big eyes
(d)glittering even-space teeth
(e)Right cheek has a mark resembling a pearl (other prophecies say mole)
(f)stutters; slow of speech; taps left knee with right hand
Youtube of Obama Stuttering:
http://tinyurl.com/3jo56w
With all of his "seals", "signs", and "slogans", it sure seems to me that he's working overtime to send some pretty specific messages.
-SV
"Alpha (A/a) and Omega (W/w) are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet. When they are used together, they have a similar meaning to our expression, “from A to Z.” They symbolize that Jesus is the first and the last, the beginning and end of all things "
ReplyDeletefrom gpumc.org
Z is the twenty-sixth and last letter of the modern Latin alphabet.
WIKI
The atomic number in chemistry and physics is conventionally represented by the symbol Z.
In the US presidential seal the eagle is holding olive tree branches representing peace in Obama's the branches appear to have fallen.
Under the big O is the shield similar to the one on the presidential seal. Behind it is the flag pierced by the spear. Anytime a flag is shown from what I have read it must be in front(oh, and not pierced I would imagine).
The clouds behind the flag look kind of like a mushroom cloud to me(Maybe related to the atomic Z thing). I thing it is also clouds on the bottom left, like the whole thing is engulfed maybe.
Notice the stars, and take in to consideration where the clouds are to be able to count them, six on the right and seven on the left and three at the top but they are smaller and not filled in. Any significance??
This must have a meaning. No one especially in the spot light would ever let a symbol like this go public unless there was a meaning behind it.
c.alt
Anon 6:35 It won’t matter, because we will do anything to rebel against the truth. Remember the guy who just told us he is a “Christian” and is for Obama? Well, in the face of facts his response was: “I just think Obama would make the better President.” For many the Devil makes for a better God; check out “HELLS BELLS” by Eric Holmberg if you don’t believe me.
ReplyDeleteObama's stutter- I didn't realize that he had such a bad stuttering problem until I watched the speech he made before the press, finally denouncing Pastor Wright. His stutter was so bad and so obvious that day that I actually felt sorry for him.
ReplyDeleteTo SV and all,
ReplyDeleteWow. This is frightening. Take a look at this picture of Obama smiling. He has a distinct mole on his right cheek. I've only noticed it infrequently because they obviously cover it with make-up, but you can't miss it in this picture. It's right next to his nose. In the picture it appears to be on his left cheek, but all photographs are the reverse of the truth. In other words, I have a dimple in my right cheek, but it appears to be on the left cheek in photos of me.
http://barackobama.imagelibrarys.com/2008/10/barack-obama-smiling-picture-16.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/3g6wam
Correction! Before everyone gets all crazy!
ReplyDeleteThe photos of myself that I just looked at before posting the last comment were in an album that I'd put together through scanned photographs. The scan, like a mirror image, will reverse the picture, but a photo won't. So therefore I was wrong and the mole is really in Obama's left cheek. Whew!
sorry!
What do you think the odds are of this case seeing the light of day....
ReplyDeleteBerg vs. Obama
http://tinyurl.com/5yljet
THE PUBLIC IS UNINFORMED
ReplyDeleteThese are just thoughts sharing why you might not be able to get through to others with the information you've learned here and elsewhere.
What do you think is the average age of people who have a sense of history? Who has a sense of morality? A sense of geography? Who asks questions because of intellectual curiosity? My own experience says that it is on a descending line based on age. That puts the election in the Obama camp where lies and appearances rule as few can make the contrast with reality and fantasy.
The generally believed idea now is that changes take place in large sweeps such as Hitler coming in and by force of his character turning Germany into a Nazi nation. The reality is that the culture is changed in small ways, ways enabling individuals think they have come to the conclusions on their own. When people believe their emotional responses are based on their intellectual ability, it is almost impossible to get them to change. They would have to admit what they know is wrong.
I was reminded of this again when I saw a series of articles on Breitbart this morning.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27023066/from/RSS/
Jewish Modesty Patrols Sow Fear In Israel
The theme fits the AOC goals. There is little factual material in the story that supports the idea that what is happening is widespread. I then looked at the other links. Without a historical sense of context, these are the things that shape the views of the average individual these days.
Dorothy
Dorothy,
ReplyDelete"THE PUBLIC IS UNINFORMED"
Thanks for this post! I have so many Christian friends who are enthusiastically embracing many facets of New Age that I get discouraged, at times, with their complete lack of discernment- nor do they even desire the revelation of truth regarding the very things they are embracing!
-SV
Dawn, and Anonymous 11:11
ReplyDeleteI ran across this article in August, from my own research regarding US emergency powers and how, as a Bible-believing, Constitutional Christian, I am to respond. It is a good companion article to Chuck Baldwin's article (and the Armytimes article to a lesser extent).
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/hawes4.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/49bqkj
A very thoughtful and articulate assessment of a proper response, one that gave me comfort in the realization that I am not the only one concerned if my ability to protect my family will suffer an attempt to be permanently removed, in some real or contrived "emergency".
At the least, what remains after all the "infringing" that has taken place so far...
sarah
Young Grasshopper-I am truly sorry to see your blog come down. You have valuable insights into the Obama icons. Here is a question for you. How do you "read" the banner in the video of the Children singing for Obama. Its the creepy video now off you tube. It is still visible, however, on multiple sites. At first I thought it looked very homemade, but the more I analyzed it, the banner is a professional painting made to look like a classroom poster. The Obama logo is superimposed on an earthlike globe with white and blue stars using stenciling perhaps with a lot of other medium. Maybe pastels? I dunno but the creepy red and white rays seem to look like the echo of the the Obama logo itself, that is the classic NA symbol of Earthrise over the Sun. We know this supposed grassroots video was an actual expensive video production. The banner is too dominant to not have been done professionally. Why do I see "conscious evolution" ala Barbara Marx Hubbard in action here with the kids? How disturbing a manipulation of thses children.
ReplyDeleteThanks Sarah (8:41 PM) for sharing the link to the article. As you wrote, it most certainly WAS a very thoughtful and articulate assessment. The entire article was good, and in particular I really appreciated the following from his conclusion:
ReplyDelete"Contrary to the propaganda you’re likely to hear in the event of a martial law situation, neither Romans 13, nor any other passage of scripture, can be twisted to the effect of forcing Christians to buckle under to, participate in, or otherwise sanction, illegal actions or outright atrocities committed by the state." -Rudi
My husband who is close to retirement and has been with his employer for over 20 years received word yesterday that 27 employee's within his division will be let go with-in weeks. We who profess faith may very likely have the opportunity in coming days to practice what we preach.
ReplyDelete-Rudi
Sorry to hear this one Rudi.
REQUEST TO CONSTANCE
ReplyDeleteBack when you were putting together your powerpoint presentation on Solana and Kosovo, you made mention of a military-civic operation. Would that information be pertinent here when some are talking about possible military activity among the civilian population? The exact language escapes me. I can't find reference to it on the blog.
On your first page you have a line about items for downloading. I can't figure out any of it. Help!
Thanks for the thumbs up SV.
Rudi, time goes by fast. One way or another everything gets resolved. If bad things happen and all becomes bleak and mentally painful, know that time really does heal all wounds (and wounds all heels). No matter what happens, you can make it work out. At least that has been my experience.
Dorothy
Roma,
ReplyDeleteWe don't know yet who those 27 employees will be. We are praying, and thank-you for caring. -Rudi
Dorothy, Thank you for your words of encouragement. -Rudi
"All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen."
Ralph Waldo Emerson
"God is our refuge and strength, an ever-present help in trouble."
Psalm 46
Last week I read this article that extrapolated and warned how Damascus would be destroyed just before the invasion of Gog of the land of Magog; worth reading Bill Salus’
ReplyDeletearticle.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76484
This morning I came across Israel warning: "We will use disproportionate force against these villages (in southern Lebanon) and cause enormous destruction because from our point of view these are not villages but military bases," he added.
The military commander said "what applies to Hezbollah applies even more to Syria."
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=71191§ionid=351020203
Dorothy,
ReplyDeleteYour assesment in your 1:04 post is spot on. At 28, I find it next to impossible to reach anyone within my age bracket. My brother, who is 4 years younger, is next to impossible to speak with. Even when cold concrete facts are presented, he prefers to be ignorant and believe what the world is spoon feeding him. He has become proud of his sinful self, this saddens me more than words can explain. I can only pray that with him having heard the truth, as things escalate from one day to the next, something will resonate within him and he will hear the Lord calling. Unfortunately there will be many whom harden their hearts to this calling.
Rudi and others,
I am praying fo all through these trying days. Job loss, as devastating as it may be, may only be the first in many trials that may befall us over these coming days. I am not attempting to down play the harshness of job loss, as I have recently been laid off and am finding it next to impossible to find gainfull employment in my field. Through this time though, God is standing by me as new avenues are being opened. To which all praise goes to Him!! We may be being put to the fire here so to speak, so remember to look up as our redemption draws closer!
JD
BIBLE SCHOLARS - any thoughts please?
ReplyDeleteI came across this article 'The Rival to the Bible' today on the BBC news site;
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3vlfwj
"What is probably the oldest known bible is being digitised, reuniting its scattered parts for the first time since its discovery 160 years ago. It is markedly different from its modern equivalent. What's left out? ...
these different parts are to be united online and, from next July, anyone, anywhere in the world with internet access will be able to view the complete text and read a translation."
~K~
Fannie, Freddie, CDS auction!!!
ReplyDeleteWhy our financial mess could be getting a lot worse quickly!
Let me say ahead of time that I saw this and wanted to share so that all here could understand the full implications of what may happen in the next couple weeks.
A series of auctions being held today to estimate the total of worth of assets in Fannie Mae and Freddie Macs CDS contracts(or Credit Default Swaps).
In laymens terms a CDS is a contract not unlike an insurance policy. A bank pays x dollars a year into this policy with a promise that said "insurer" will off set any or all defaulted debt the bank may face in the future.
The estimates for Fannie and Freddies CDS contracts have ranged from hundreds of billions to 1.2 trillion dollars. Most of their CDS contracts are held by other banks through out the globe. In other words if bank A holds 6 billion in CDS contracts for either of these companies, they could be made to pony up their share over the coming weeks. Thus, possibly causing bank A to fail followed by bank B who holds bank A's CDS contracts and so on and so on. These numbers could quickly spiral out of control as the US bailout bill alone propably won't cover the estimated debt here let alone other banks.
http://tinyurl.com/5xlym8
I know this sounds awful, but I felt it needed to be shared.
JD
~K~,
ReplyDeleteNot to worry. This codex is no surprise to scholars; the only "recent" thing about it is that it's being digitized. Of course, this doesn't mean nobody ever studied it before, but news agencies think they've got another "lost Bible" to exploit and convince people it's some new discovery.
http://www.bible-researcher.com/codex-aleph.html
Excerpt: It is believed to be from the fourth century, but somewhat later than Codex Vaticanus. Prior to its publication Tischendorf had given a descriptive account of the manuscript with a sample of its readings in Notitia editionis Codicis Bibliorum Sinaitici auspiciis Imperatoris Alexandri II. susceptæ ... Edidit Ænoth. Frid. Const. Tischendorf, &c. (Leipsic, 1860).
The text of Sinaiticus (written in four columns to the page) contains an unusually high number of readings which have clearly arisen by transcriptional error, most of them by careless omissions. Aside from these, however, the text closely resembles that of Codex Vaticanus, and so the discovery of Sinaiticus had the effect of increasing the already high reputation of that manuscript.
http://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/04/06/a-survey-of-new-testament-documents/
Excerpt: The reliability of the New Testament is a value indicative of the fantastic catalogue of manuscripts that have been preserved and kept since the beginning of the church at the time of Christ. For the record, and as an addendum to my previous post, I would like to briefly survey some of the most important and ancient manuscripts from among the many available to scholars today.
As I mentioned in my previous post, we depend upon copies of the original scriptural documents, or autographs, as none of them still exist. Now, before this statement fills us with doubt or skepticism regarding the integrity of the message translated from one document to another, it is helpful to keep in mind that no autographs exist of many sources which we depend upon to reconstruct the history and culture of ancient civilization. In other words, the absence of autographs is common and not a mortal blow to the endeavor of discovering the original words or meaning of many ancient documents. Consequently, the more manuscript copies are available, especially those close in proximity to the writing of the original, the more accurate the reconstruction can be. For more on how this principle establishes the reliability of the New Testament documents, see my previous post.
The manuscript that many scholars estimate is closest to the autographs, classified as P46 (otherwise referred to as the Chester Beatty Papyrus II, after its owner), contains all of the Pauline pastoral epistles, and has been dated at the end of the first century. If this dating is correct, it places P46 within twenty to thirty years of Paul’s original letters and would be the largest and oldest collection of New Testament manuscripts currently in our possession. The next document in chronological order, referred to as P52, is dated around 110-125 AD and contains John 18, verses 31-34 and 37-38. This document is a fragment to say the least, but it was part of a larger manuscript copy of the Gospel of John, produced within twenty to thirty years of the original. The following are a selection of some of the other important New Testament papyri:
The Oxyrhychus Papyri
This group of documents was literally recovered from the ancient garbage dumps of Egypt! In 1898, archaeologists Grenfell and Hunt discovered the site in Oxyrhychus, Egypt, which included an enormous amount of written information, including legal documents, literature, business receipts, and letters, as well as over 35 New Testament manuscripts. Many of these manuscripts were fragments of larger works. Included were P1, containing Matthew 1, P5, containing John 1 and 16, P13, containing Hebrews 2-5 and 10-12, and P22, containing John 15-16.
The Chester Beatty Papyri
This collection of documents was found and purchased from an Egyptian dealer in the 1930’s, and bears the name of its owner. As I mentioned above, two of its manuscripts, P46 and P52, are recognized for their age and proximity to the autographs. In addition to those two, P45, which contains portions of the Gospels and Acts and P47, which contains Revelation 9-17, are included.
The Bodmer Papyri
Also named for its owner, M. Martin Bodmer, and purchased from an Egyptian dealer through the 1950’s and 1960’s, this collection includes P66, from 175 AD and containing the majority of the Gospel of John, P72, of the third century and containing both 1 and 2 Peter and Jude, and P75, from 200 AD containing portions of Luke 3 through John 15.
Codex Sinaiticus
This manuscript is a complete edition of the New Testament. It was discovered by Constantin vo Tischendorf in a monastery located near Mount Sinai. It is dated around 350 AD.
Codex Vaticanus
Preserved in the library of the Vatican since 1481, this manuscript was not available for examination until the mid-1800’s! It has been dated prior to Codex Sinaiticus, and includes the entire Old Testament and the New Testament through Hebrews 9:15 in Greek. Still today, Vaticanus is considered one of the most reliable sources of the autograph text.
HOW TO SOLVE THE FINANCIAL MELTDOWN
ReplyDeleteDoesn't anyone remember how to solve all this? Think positive. Concentrate real hard on what you want and it will happen. As above, so below. Everything is in your mind. If we all get together at one time and send our energies to the stock market, it will go up again. Don't forget we are all gods, part of the great energy of the universe. Smile. God wants us all to be rich so go for it. Don't be negative. Judging Wall Street brokers is judgmental, and that's bad. There is nothing bad in the world..it's just how you perceive things. Who needs money? If everyone recycles it will all work out.
We will all meet at 2:30 in little Triangle transmission groups and send our energies to Wall Street today. Join us in spirit.
.....well, maybe not.
Dorothy
Good one, Dorothy!
ReplyDeleteMcCain advocated "League of Democracies"
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/06/EDEC13B48B.DTL
All--
ReplyDeleteRegarding the (creepy) symbolic illustration on Senator Obama's website, perhaps it's an eagle, not a phoenix.
Here's a photo of an American Harpy Eagle which is one of the biggest raptors on the planet. If it is this bird, you could still slyly say to your detractors that this is, indeed, an eagle--just like on or current presidential seal--it's just that *this* eagle is an "eagle of change!"
http://tinyurl.com/53ur4k
Note, also that the Harpies were greek spirits who were known for snatching people away and for their subsequent sudden disappearances. Note the Greek term for this occurance-- a term very familiar to all we Christians.
http://tinyurl.com/4yh63q
Also, about Anonymous (SV) 11:27's comments on Shia and Sunni beliefs about their Mahdi--("Lineage: child[ren] of Fatima"), I've read that the Shia consider the Fatima site to be theirs, and that it was "hiajcked," so to speak, by the Catholics. Fatima was the Muslim's prophet Muhammed's favorite daughter.
Here's a link to how the apparitions and the site are (were?) to be changed into an all-inclusive, ecumenical site for worship.
I put that in the past tense, with a question mark, because the link I'm putting up reports on a conference that was held in 2003.
"children of fatima (site and islamic name;" "harpies and snatching away;" "ecumenical/one-world religion;" and the Democratic candidate who is proud to be a "citizen of the world"
The clock's ticking.
Jesus is Lord.
All--
ReplyDeleteJust a thought on the "stuttering" mentioned on the shia/sunni mahdi characteristics list and its possible connections to Obama.
Some Jewish sages say Moses has a stuttering problem. "Stuttering" doesn't appear in the KJV, as such; but there appears to have been some vocal/verbal hesitancy to become GOD's spokesperson to Pharoah and his (Moses's) bretheren.
If not actually stuttering, here's a link to a plausible alternate opinion of the cause of difficulty:
(Note: I don't view all the translations as equally valid).
http://www.innvista.com/culture/religion/bible/compare/speech.htm
Either way--a false prophet and a real prophet!
Dorothy,
ReplyDelete1:06
Remember some group got together a few years ago and boasted that they had stopped some immenent catastrophy because of their chanting?
Sorry, I'm not more helpful, here. It's hard to remember specifics, when, paraphrasing some wag of not too long ago "the demand [for messiahs] outstrips the supply"!
How come we haven't heard anything from the Korean "Lord of the Advent," or that Hispanic guy whose adherent point to their head (as a symbol of their being "rational" believers in their leader's deity--not blind adherents); or the Raelians; or the Priory of Sion bloodline folks (male messiah) vs. the female lineage group? Or how about that great man of faith and universal "ommmmmmness," the Dalai Lama?
Oh, my goodness--how come St. Oprah hasn't said anything yet? Maybe she's waiting for Marianne or Eckhard or Deepak to tell her what's next!!!
Truth, Way, Life--come!
All--
ReplyDeleteOops! Here's the link for my 2:04 comment about Fatima becoming a shrine for all religions.
http://www.understandthetimes.org/commentary/c19.shtml
MORE IDEAS TO FIX THE ECONOMY
ReplyDelete(in response to Dorothy)
You forgot that maybe the banks just need to go to "The Secret" homepage and do the following. First, click on 'ask a genie', get what you ask for.
Then print the pretend check for the amount of money you need and put it on the safe, the universe will grant your request!
J0L0
ReplyDeleteThey've been doing the group thing for at least 20 years. The earliest I remember was the Harmonic Convergence in 1987. The last that comes to mind was the group that surrounded the Wall in Jerusalem to send peace to the Middle East. Lucis Trust Triangles go on all the time.
There must be very realistic planners in the New Age movement or else the movement wouldn't have grown as it has, although the reasons they work so hard are very flawed. Just as clever thieves are realistic though they work for bad goals.
The leadership shows no respect for their followers, using manipulative techniques to make people their followers. They promise the followers what they say is an easy way out of difficulties that come into everyone's life.
The reality is there are no utopias. We all have to work in one way or another for what we are to get. This is an extension of
"By the sweat of your brow, you will eat bread until you return to the earth." No easy way out.
We're on the same page.
Dorothy
Dorothy,
ReplyDeleteI tried your method today, and the stock market still went down. It went down regardless of my positive thinking. The world doesn't revolve around my positive thinking, I guess. This financial crisis is another great opportunity for the New Age Movement. How did Hitler rise? Germany suffered a worse depression than even the U.S. It really was Hitler's golden opportunity. Does history truly repeat itself?
So, how many global crises are out there now? The global economy, global warning, global terrorism. I know I'm missing another.
In one month Solana will get to figure out which instrument to play, either the Obama or the McCain. I'm ticked off at both of them for agreeing to that awful bailout. We'll never pay that thing off!
Dorothy,
ReplyDelete3:49
Same page; same church; same pew!
And..., I never liked peas as a kid.
Responding to JD at 11:51's post today, I went downstairs into our family room, shut the door, cut off the lights and used it as a "prayer closet."
Praised God; prayed for my family's finances; the souls of those I hold dear; and that the world see that only Jesus (the real one who came in the flesh) is the solution.
Same page, same church, same pew
jolo,
ReplyDeleteI seem to be in almost a constant state of prayer these days. I too pray for all things you mentioned and that above all else His will be done. I am greatfull that in these days, I am beginning to see new names pop up here and there. The Lord's grace may be the only refuge we have in the coming storm, this includes the grace He shows to others.
Jd
"As above, so below"
ReplyDeleteDorothy,
This is a New Age tag line I've seen repeatedly over the years. What interpretation do they give to it?
It could easily be interpreted in an orthodox Christian or Jewish way, for example, as another way of saying "Thy will (given from above by the creator must) be done (below by the creatures.)"
I know that's not what the New Agers mean by it though. So I would appreciate your insights here. What are they talking about?
I'M A NEW AGE FINANCIAL GURU
ReplyDelete...and no one had to send the energy to Wall Street. At 2:30 EDT on the little chart at finance.yahoo.com the market started going up and it went up just under 500 points.
Of course it is a coincidence, but if I was one of these charlatans just how good would I look to a believer.
Dorothy
AS ABOVE SO BELOW
ReplyDeletehttp://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/a/below_above.html
Dorothy
Dorothy, JD--
ReplyDeleteAlthough the times are dark and are darkening, the depth of the diabolicalness of this whole situation is revealed to us ultimately, through the Lord, who has everything going according to His light-filled plans.
Isn't it amazing to you that there are people plotting to overthrow everything we hold dear--paraphrasing Paul--all that is "true, honorable, just, edifying, pure,...."?
What do the anarchy and social collapse plans of the spirituall blind breed? Martial law; the breakdown of civilized society; the institution of new "norms;" "pandemonium," (see in this the pagan god "pan" and "demon")?
To what end???? If Satan were to win we would see an enslavement without hope that would destroy men's minds, souls, and bodies.
Remove the fancy cars, clothes, vacations, trust funds, etc. and turn the clock backwards about 10,000 years and can't you just see people RAGING, and dancing without inhibitions around some pagan pyre? Throwing their children to Molech or some other monstrosity and committing blaphemy after blasphemy?
How in the world can anyone believe that humanism can help us?
And yet, there are some/many who still believe this. Satan's sin was the sin of pride--and we sure haven't lost its baleful influence here in 2008.
Here's are two links to a whole lot of spiritually-blinded prideful people.
News With Views "Conspiracy" ties:
http://tinyurl.com/4eybwr
and
Notable Rhodes Scholars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notable_Rhodes_Scholars
Cecil Rhodes was a oneworlder, if ever there was one.
To me, the names that jump out are:
Robert Penn Warren
Daniel Boorstin
Howard K. Smith
Byron White
Stansfield Turner
James Billington
Paul Sarbanes
David Souter
R. James Woolsey
Wesley K. Clark
Robert Reich
William Jefferson Clinton
Strobe Talbott
Franklin D. Raines
Kurt L. Schmoke
Michael Kinsley
E.J. Dionne
Russ Feingold
George Stephanopoulos
and
Naomi Wolf
Praying, praying...
AS ABOVE SO BELOW:
ReplyDelete"The purpose of all rituals in ceremonial magic is to unite the microcosm with the macrocosm to join God, or gods when invoked, with the human consciousness."
Thanks for the link, Dorothy. Too obtuse for my small non-mystical brain I'm afraid.
My reading is that humans can, through performing certain rituals and holding certain beliefs, control earthly events to meet our own ends. God is there ("above") to serve man ("below").
This certainly turns on its head any notion of sin or moral responsibility to a God who created us, makes His will known to us, and to whom we will all have to ultimately answer.
Joe Six Pack
CREME AD THAT APPEARED 9/25/08 IN THE CHICAGO READER
ReplyDeleteWATCH FOR THIS MAN
Incorruptible, Wise, Simple of Speech
He will advocate sharing the world's food and resources more equitably among nations...
Every year millions of people die needlessly from starvation, disease, and war. Millions more struggle to survive on less than $1 a day. As long as this injustice persists, we will never know peace.
He will call for massive emergency relief...
An immediate program to provide basic necessities for the poorest areas of the world--perhaps in the form of a global Marshall Plan--will be the first of many changes needed.
He will speak about the critical condition of our planet and offer solutions....
Pollution is the #1 killer in the world today and new reports say the consequences of global warming will come sooner and be more catastrophic than expected if we fail to act in time.
With his help we will see that all life is one...
Acting as one human family, we will rebuild our world along more just and compassionate lines, and thus create the only basis for lasting peace.
His public work will begin soon...
As millions worldwide take up is call for peace through sharing, he will acknowledge his role as World Teacher, the one awaited under different names by people of all religions and by those who simply wish for a better life for all - a Teacher for all humanity.
WHO IS THIS MAN?
Theemergence.org/Chi
Obviously this is Creme Maitreya Share stuff.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/19/opinion/main4460105.shtml?source=RSS&attr=HOME_4460105 or
http://tinyurl.com/3kgwlt
Start reading at
"Nice try. The Candidate of Hope is hoping that while he caterwauls about our lost billions, you won’t notice that he has already proposed the most jaw-dropping transfer of wealth in American history: taking nearly a trillion dollars out of the pockets of American taxpayers and doling it out to the world’s worst regimes through its most corrupt intermediary, the U.N. "
How does Obama plan to pay for this transfer of wealth?
www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28875
Obama's Tax Plan: Welcome to 1929
by Peter Ferrara
10/06/2008
My comment: It's not what they tell you. It's what's missing when they talk.
Dorothy
Paula - thank you for those helpful links.
ReplyDeleteI remain concerned that this is to be published online next year and that it's extra books 'might' become yet more fuel for the NA agenda.
Thanks again. :)
~K~
Dorothy,
ReplyDeleteBINGO!
Thanks for those links above, when I was reading your comment, I also recalled reading this over at WND, and this was in February -- yes, it's old.
http://tinyurl.com/3y7cdn
______________________________
Exactly, it's what they DON'T say that is so deadly. And further, if they don't tell you everything, then they can't be accused of lying either, can they?
sarah
Glad to be of service, ~K~. No doubt about the NA using anything they can to their advantage. They know that even a flash in the pan that's quickly disproven serves the purpose of influencing the "surf and skim" reader.
ReplyDeleteDorothy,
ReplyDelete6:26 post was excellent. It seems we have 2 men on oposite sides of the planet almost bidding for the job Benjamin Creme is looking to fill. On one side Obama, who is trying hard to keep himself qualified while not appearing to suspicious to the US constituents.
On the other is Solana, whose puppet Sarkozy has recently called for global solutions to the financial crisis. All the while making moves to expand his(Solana) power over the EU. This could be a neck and neck race! lol But wait, didn't John speak of two beasts, each with their own worns representing different kings, why yes I believe he did.
JD
Read about the letter Iran sent to Javier Solana:
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/3p9tda
This is a very recent event.
I was checking up on the Esalen Institute and reading about their series on "Beyond Fundamentalism Conferences." The latest was held in March 2008 and was entitled: Abrahamic Family Reunion Focus Group.
ReplyDeleteAddressing the Rise of Global Fundamentalism is the objective of this series which addresses a different religion each year. Those of you on this site who are Christians might be interested to read this:
http://www.esalenctr.org/display/fundamentalism/sherman06.cfm
Dorothy and other Jewish bloggers might find this one interesting:
http://www.esalenctr.org/display/fundamentalism/sherman06b.cfm
Interesting that the key in the most recent conference is melding of East and West, i.e. the new age is the key to bridging the Abrahamic faiths.
Blessings,
Deannie
I don't know if anyone posted this one about the summary of remarks by Solana at the informal meeting of the EU defense ministers, at his website. He gives his support to Sarkozy's suggestion that the EU countries exchange army officers so the armies can be more interoperable. Nov 10 is when the EU ministers of Defense meet to make a final recommendation. Of course, it will be voluntary; if a country doesn't want to participate, it won't be forced.
ReplyDeleteEUROPE/GERMANY FINANCIAL CRISIS
ReplyDeletehttp://tiny.cc/g7zEa
Better check and see if Javier Solana can declare emergency powers in an economic crisis.
For those who are interested in the Esalen Institute's conferences on Global Fundamentalism, you should check out this website for the Fetzer Institute:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.fetzer.org/Programs.aspx?PageID=Programs&NavID=2
If you follow its links on sprituality and science you get here:
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cssr/mindandreality/participants.html
Remember the bizarre "science" at Princeton? It appears that professors from MIT, Harvard, Duke, UVA and others are at it too.
Deannie
AYERS QUOTES RANDY NEWMAN ON HIS BLOG
ReplyDeleteThe end of an empire is messy at best….
and this one is ending like all the rest.” Randy Newman
http://www.randynewman.com/tocdiscography/a-few-words
"Well, Pluto’s not a planet anymore either
"The end of an empire is messy at best
And this empire is ending
Like all the rest
Like the Spanish Armada adrift on the sea
We’re adrift in the land of the brave
And the home of the free
Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye."
Dorothy
Hi Deannie- Thanks for the links to the Esalen and Fetzer Institute
ReplyDeleteinformation. Lots to read and play catch up in both. -Rudi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpicD6UIq8A
ReplyDeleteMark Warner running for Senate in VA says pro lifers, homeschoolers, Christian coalition are a threat to American way of life.
Deannie
Been offline all day and too tired to read all that's new here. However, amid all this good knowledge transacted here, I have one good report.
ReplyDeleteAt exactly 3:00 today EST, I burped and my husband farted. Can you imagine how many burps and farts were echoed collectively across the globe? Thankfully, our collective digestive tracts rebelled at exactly the same time across the globe as the New York Stock Exchange recorded the biggest loss (800 points) in modern times, and then magically the tide turned , the oceans retreated, and the New York Stock Exchange retracted its losses into gains!
Instead of reading The Secret, please go out and buy hotdogs and sauerkraut. The spewing of hot air we'll all produce by eating inexpensively will do much to reduce sustainable development and relieve the pressure of the profane (hint=us) upon sweet Mother Gaia's sensitive nasal tracts;- the snot she projects (hint:orbs) will disintegrate and thus the air will clear, pollution will dissolve and we will all realize that we are the ones we've been farting for.
Moral of the story:
"I weep for you" the Walrus said:
'I deeply sympathize.'
With sobs and tears he sorted out
Those of the largest size,
Holding his pocket-handkerchief
Before his streaming eyes.
"O Oysters" said the Carpenter,
"You've had a pleasant run!
Shall we be trotting home again?'
But answer came there none-
And this was scarcely odd, because
They'd eaten every one."
Sorry, this is the result of sleep deprivation and too much stimulation by Oscar Meyer.
M.J.
Here is another initiative of the Fetzer Insitute:
ReplyDeleteThe Law Program explores ways of helping lawyers, judges, law professors and students reconnect with their deepest values and intentions, through meditation, yoga, and other contemplative and spiritual practices. We run retreats and events which provide a framework for considering ways in which contemplative awareness can enhance and enrich our professional and personal lives, and bring them more into balance.
Effective Lawyering: The Meditative Perspective
April 2-5, 2009
Spirit Rock Meditation Center, Woodacre, CA
Registration opens December 2008
No wonder our Judicial decisions are a mess.
Deannie
The New Age and Law. You have to see the books available. Here is a sampling:
ReplyDeleteThe Affective Assistance of Counsel: Practicing Law as a Healing Profession
Transforming Practices:
Finding Joy and Satisfaction in the Legal Life
Worship and Wilderness: Culture, Religion, and Law in Public Lands Management
Law Practice As Spiritual Path
The Contemplative Lawyer: On the Potential Contributions of Mindfulness Meditation to Law Students and Lawyers and their Clients
by Leonard L. Riskin
7 Harvard Negotiation Law Review 1-66 (June 2002)
This article was the centerpiece of a Symposium on Mindfulness in Law and ADR at Harvard.
Putting a Premium on Meditation:
Law School’s Program Offers Students a Labyrinth, Yoga
by Stephanie Francis Cahill
ABA Journal E-Report, February 15, 2002
No Justice, No Peace. In court: Lawyers and Judges who practice dharma
by Mary Talbot
Tricycle: The Buddhist Review, Fall 2000, pp. 44.
If Harvard Law is buying into this New Age nonsense, is there any hope for a literal interpretation of the US Constitution?
Deannie
Setterman,
ReplyDeleteDid you see todays article in WND:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76484
Exposed: Iran nukes take Damascus road
Channel seen as way to bypass United Nations sanctions
Here's the reason for Damascus' decimation.
DON'T TRY AND TAKE CREDIT MJ
ReplyDeleteThe market turned at 2:30 EDT not 3:00 EDT. It was my thinking about sending energy to Wall Street that did it which I announced in advance at 1:06 pm.
There's always some darn trouble-making, credit stealing New Ager wanting to take credit for the results.
Dawn I wrote a check for $150,000 and put it on top of my purse. How long do I have to wait for my purse to fill up?
Dorothy
Top insurer forces employees to study Buddhist teachings
ReplyDeleteManagers' retreat requires chanting 'om' in dark room
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1222017478856&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
ReplyDeleteVery disturbing article from The Jerusalem Post
Re: McCain video "stars are aligned change will come"
ReplyDeleteThey're probably just trying to convert over some Obama people who are in a somewhat brainwashed state and looking for that trigger language.
Amazing coincidence:
ReplyDeleteBarack Obama - Nairobi Kenya summer visit in 1988.
Maitreya - seen in Nairobi Kenya June 11 1988
RE:Dorothy 11:27
ReplyDeleteLaughed my hynee off!
Just on Fox:
ReplyDeleteJerome Corsi being "detained" in Kenya.
US warplane forced to land in Iran.
MJ
Anon 1:53 AM
ReplyDelete"They're probably just trying to convert over some Obama people who are in a somewhat brainwashed state and looking for that trigger language."
Well put. Here's what my own niece had to say about Obama in an email received yesterday...
"When Obama is President, I really think there will be a change in mentalities all around the globe. People will perceive America in a different way, not as a war hungry nation. I believe there will be less tension and everyone will tend to focus on economic development and growth of the world as opposed to who’s going to fight who. The tension will still exist, but will fade with time."
Such blind idealism brought back memories of my youth.
I remember trying to hitch-hike through San Francisco back in the mid seventies. It seemed every middle aged male in the city was willing to stop and pick me up. Fearing for my virginity, I decided to make my way to the Greyhound bus station downtown. While waiting for a bus, a group of Moonies tried to recruit me by sending some cute girls to sit next to me. They told me what a cool thing they had going on at their place located just outside the city. Of course they all had that glassy eyed pie in the sky look, so even though I was tempted, I declined the offer to go with them. But I thought about it for a long time after, wondering what I was missing. (I actually really did want to lose my virginity, heterosexually that is).
Mass hypnosis is a terrible thing. Seems pain and suffering is the only cold water remedy that has the slightest chance at waking these people up. Our Lord has promised to provide the wake up call. It's not called the "Great Tribulation" for nothing.
Anyone hear about this?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6992
The last time we had a "military exercise" this big 3 huge buildings collapsed in NY, one of which was reported as collapsed 20 minutes before it actually happened.
I've posted on Project Blue Beam as have others here, and I think this may be a large scale Blue Beam project exercise. If it's not it is definitely large requiring a "mock" martial law exercise.
JB in CO
GOING BACK IN TIME
ReplyDelete"In honor of our 10th birthday, we've brought back our oldest available index. Take a look back at Google in January 2001."
http://www.google.com/search2001.html
Thanks to J.
Dorothy
I wonder if the prophet Ezekial saw this coming between Russia and Israel. Definitely worth checking out.
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/4vfasd
SaraG,
ReplyDeleteI think my link is the same as yours or it's a similar story. Either way, it's a must read.
Anonymous 3:00
Say can someone let me know if Sherry Shiner is a legit source of information?? Somehow I stumbled upon her site and read her blogs but am feeling a bit uneasy over it.
ReplyDeleteRussia and Solana, One prepping for war the other looking for interdependence.
ReplyDeleteAs Russia is preparing for a large military exercise, simulating a nuclear war with the USA (right off our coast non the less)
http://tinyurl.com/4nzp7c
Solana is speaking to EU members regarding the importance of cooperation among all nations in the union as well as globally
http://tinyurl.com/3ntxc2
JD
Mary,
ReplyDeleteI think your ill ease is very legitimate. I just checked out her blog and a tiny bit of her website, and whatever she's smokin' is quite powerful!
Orgone blaster? I wonder how many poor people she has taken in with this BS? She's charging people money to buy some phony trinket amulet to ward off the evil aliens and giants and Chinese. If ever my discernment sniffer was working overtime it was when I saw what this unscrupulous individual is up to.
Do I believe the alien/UFO business is going more mainstream? You'd better believe it. The New Agers are already discussing that an alien spacecraft will come and take out millions of people. I think the New Agers are just covering their bases for when the real rapture occurs. Please don't read this person's writings anymore, as they are as dangerous as the rest of the occultic garbage that's everywhere now.
Jerome Corsi, highly respected World Net Daily Senior Staff Writer and author of the No. 1 New York Times best-selling book, "The Obama Nation" is being detained and held "incommunicado" in Nairobi, Kenya by the government of Kenya.
ReplyDeleteHe was picked up by the authorites at his hotel at 9:45 AM and detained at Nyayo House, the provincial headquarters for Nairobi.
Corsi is quoted as saying, "Just as we were about to start the 10:00 AM press conferernce at the Grand Regeny Hotel in Nairobi, Kenya -immigration officials approached us and detained us. Tim Bueler, my publicist, and I are now in the immigragion offices and our passports were taken. The immigration officer told the press, 'There is no problem, and Dr. Corsi is a friend of Kenya'."
Even though Corsi has not been arrested or charged with any offense, Carlos Maluta, a senior immigration offical was quoted by the Associted Press as saying, "We still haven't decided what to do with him."
Corsi had scheduled the news conference in which he planned to announce the findings of his investigation into Bsrack Obama's connections to the country.
Obama has a long history of connections with Kenya, where his father worked as a government economist. Corsi documented the history in his book and went to Kenya to find answers to lingering questions - particulary about Obama's links to Kenya Prime Minister Raila Odinga.
Corsi had promised that his news conference would "expose details of deep secret ties between U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and a section of Kenya government leaders, their connection to certain sectoral groups in Kenya and subsequent plot to be executed in Kenya should Senator Obama win the American presidency."
Corsi told World Net Daily he has been assured he will be released soon. Until then, World Net Daily remains very concerned.
For more information, click on www.worldnetdaily.com
(Please excuse the spelling mistakes in my 7:39 PM post.)
ReplyDeleteJerome Corsi, highly respected World Net Daily Senior Staff Writer and author of the No. 1 New York Times best-selling book, "The Obama Nation" is being held "incommunicado" in Nairobi, Kenya by the government of Kenya.
He was picked up by the authorities at his hotel at 9:45 AM and detained at Nyayo House, the provincial headquarters for Nairobi.
Corsi is quoted as saying, "Just as we were about to start the 10:00 AM press conference at the Grand Regency Hotel in Nairobi, Kenya -immigration officials approached us and detained us. Tim Bueler, my publicist, and I are now in the immigration offices and our passports were taken. The immigration officer told the press, 'There is no problem, and Dr. Corsi is a friend of Kenya'."
Even though Corsi has not been arrested or charged with any offense, Carlos Maluta, a senior immigration official was quoted by the Associated Press as saying, "We still haven't decided what to do with him."
Corsi had scheduled the news conference in which he planned to announce the findings of his investigation into Barack Obama's connections to the country.
Obama has a long history of connections with Kenya, where his father worked as a government economist. Corsi documented the history in his book and went to Kenya to find answers to lingering questions - particularly about Obama's links to Kenya Prime Minister Raila Odinga.
Corsi had promised that his news conference would "expose details of deep secret ties between U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and a section of Kenya government leaders, their connection to certain sectoral groups in Kenya and subsequent plot to be executed in Kenya should Senator Obama win the American presidency."
Corsi told World Net Daily he has been assured he will be released soon. Until then, World Net Daily remains very concerned.
For more information, click on www.worldnetdaily.com
Anon 12:53, in May I sent this posting, and after reading your link to the Jerusalem Post I think it is appropriate to repost it; very sad. I was watching Gary Cooper in the “Fountainhead” and it reminded me of just how few there are who will stand for truth and justice; just look at what passes for leadership in this country! There are too few sergeant News.
ReplyDeleteNIV “You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish.” John 11:50 Let me dare to reword this to fit Israel’s relationship to the world, the current existential imperative: You do not realize that it is better for you that one nation die for the world than that the whole world perish. I am afraid that is where we are headed.
All--
ReplyDeleteNew 3 year old goddess:
http://tinyurl.com/4t6rle
Isn't the Dalai Lama supposed to be reincarnated when he's really young, too?
So..., are they in competition?
GH - thanks for answering. You know after I sent off the question I thought that gee what am I even thinking questioning if such a site could be true???? Then after reading your response I broke out in laughter at the craziness of Orgone blasters...why not just put your trust in the LORD, Jesus Christ, and not rely on some crystals with metal. I can't stop laughing now at the idea. Do you think though that her theories on China could have some validity to it??? What about the Haliburton claim that Haliburton is putting prisons all over the US to put people like us in when the end times come.?
ReplyDeleteWOW, 170 COMMENTS -- GREAT GOING.
ReplyDeleteI learned I do have to be in court in morning, so my NWV article which will be simultaneously published here won't be ready until tomorrow night. Thanks for waiting!
Constance
1. Obama can't help where he was born.
ReplyDelete2. Even if he was born in Kenya, which I don't believe, it wouldn't affect his U.S. citizenship -- if one is born the child of a U.S. citizen, he/she is one.
3. I am distressed about Obama's abortion, particularly his partial birth abortion, support.
4. Should he be elected, he will be our President and I will pray for his administration.
5. I resent the way the scoffing press has beat up on Sarah Palin, calling her religious beliefs "quirky" and "strange."
CONSTANCE
HOWEVER, if Corsi was in Kenya checking out connections other than Barack Obama's alleged birthplace, I would say that was probably fair game.
ReplyDeleteThe VERBAL information conveyed to me was that he was looking for proof that Obama had been born in Kenya -- a theory I personally consider sheer nonsense.
Constance
Just read Mariel's comments on Sarah Palin's support of the 2 state solution for Israel. I heard that, too, and it equally disturbed me.
ReplyDeleteConstance
Mary,
ReplyDeleteI agree with Young Grasshopper but you might be excused for your initial question if you began here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmOn-YQzxvw
This is Constance being interviewed by Sherry on her talk show. I heard Constance interviewed by Sherry and then went to her site. Once you look around and see all the nonsense about Orgone blasters you have to discount it all.
Dorothy once taught me on this blog that there are so many credible, excellent sources, why mess with questionable ones.
Blessings,
Deannie
Excerpts from Berg v. Obama..
ReplyDeleteBarack Hussein Obama, a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Dunham, a/k/a Barack Dunham
Obama claims he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961 and it is uncertain in which hospital he claims to have been born. Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, his half-brother and half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. Reports reflect that Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy (which, apparently, was a normal restriction, to avoid births during a flight). By these reports, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew home and registered Obama’s birth. There are records of a "registry of birth" for Obama, on or about August 8, 1961 in the public records office in Hawaii.
Obama’s mother would have had to have lived ten (10) years in the U.S., five (5) of which were after she reached the age of fourteen (14). At the time of Obama’s birth, his mother was only eighteen (18), and therefore did not meet the residency requirements under the law to give her son (Obama) U.S. Citizenship. The laws in effect at the time of Obama’s birth did not recognize U.S. Citizenship at birth of children born abroad to a U.S. Citizen parent and a non-citizen parent, if the citizen parent was under the age of nineteen (19) at the time of the birth of the child. Obama’s mother did not qualify under the law on the books to register Obama as a "natural born" citizen.
The Nationality Act of 1940 provided for the loss of citizenship when a child became naturalized in a foreign country upon the naturalization of his or her parent having custody of such child. Obama’s mother expatriated her U.S. Citizenship when she married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia, and relocated with her son (Obama) to Indonesia.
Mary,
ReplyDeleteHere is a link regarding some of the Halliburton information:
http://tinyurl.com/9aqnn
take care,
sarah
CONSTANCE RE OBAMA
ReplyDeleteYou've made your reputation by documenting every statement you've made about the New Age movement. Yet you believe we should take Obama's word about his citizenship.
http://www.pdfdownload.org/pdf2html/pdf2html.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flds.ws%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2008%2F10%2Fberg-amended-complaint.pdf&images=yes
or http://tinyurl.com/4w3ky9
Go to page 22 and see the list of five items that are being requested by the Plaintiff. Why will the Obama campaign not provide documentation, expecting the American citizens to accept documentation that is very questionable.
It's as if someone asked you to lend them $10,000 and that you should accept their word that the person was really a billionaire and would pay you back next week.
Don't lower your standards Constance.
Dorothy
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/08/syria.russia
ReplyDeleteFrom Syrian fishing port to naval power base: Russia moves into the Mediterranean• Military foothold part of closer ties with Damascus
• Move could deter Israel from attacks on Syria
Deannie
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/3153999/George-Bush-to-summon-leaders-to-emergency-finance-summit.html
ReplyDeleteBush to coordinate world response
http://www.bloomsberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=aIcEL0jjSK74&refer=home
Sarkozy says they want a new world to come out of this
Both from Drudge.
Farmer has important info for us and we owe him so much. The warning signs are in avalanche mode.
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“...The problem with radicalisation, however, is not only about opposing Islam to Christianity. It is a matter of tolerance and compatibility of cultural and religious traditions in general. We should keep in mind the fact that this problem exists within the Muslim community. But the same can be argued about Christians and Christianity..." (sic)(same Link)
In the following quote from the American Thinker blog, the Christian culture is viewed and relegated to being not just a toaster, but dangerous; convincing people that we are not only wrong but criminal is becoming easier. “Religion would be okay -- so long as it stayed separate from matters of state and law. I don't care if my neighbor believes in the flying toaster god. But I don't want the Toaster Commandments in my kids' schools or Toaster apologists leading me to war against the Pizza Sauce heathen. “
“Finally, I think you really need to consider the existential threat to society presented by the Pizza Saucists. They believe The Crust was made in just six days and are Anti-Choice when it comes to the use of fennel.”
This does not make me laugh.
http://www.sofiaecho.com/article/new-radical-islam-in-bulgaria-claims/id_32160/catid_66
So - do I get it right - the problem exists in both Believe systems?....
That was also what Erdogan suggestet - speaking under
the "two horns and the eye"-symbol of AoC in the middle of the twelve:
Excellent 11:56p.m. post Dorothy. I agree.
ReplyDeleteMary and others,
ReplyDeleteRegarding Sherry Shriner, its also important to note, she claims that the people who inhabit Israel are not the jews. She further states that the aryan race are the true descendants of Abraham. Her religous stew seems to be about 50% conspiracy theory, 45% NA mumbo-jumbo, and MAYBE 5% biblical study for which part she picks and chooses which verses she chooses to adhere. She also teaches that Paul was a false prophet, but that is a totally different subject all together. All of these things are blatantly posted on her web page. I too have heard the interview Constance did with her, and even during it there were several comments made regarding some of this material, too which Constance seemed very uneasy. Maybe Constance can shed a little more light on this as she was there, but for the most part Sherry's blasphemous propaganda is there for all to see.
JD
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/archives_prove_obama_was_a_new.html
ReplyDeleteDorothy,
What do you know about this? Apparently, Senator Obama was a member of the New Party. Do you know these people?
Deannie
To Constance,
ReplyDeletePlease shed light on your Sherry Shriner interview. Should we all go out and buy a couple dozen Orgone blasters? The again, I had a house talk to me and had my first encounter with orbs in that same house, so maybe Sherry's not completely bonkers.
Someone directed a comment to me a few days a go, and I apologize for not seeing it until now.
Regarding the poster on the wall behind the Obama singing kids, here's a link for some interpretation of occult symbolism:
http://www.radioliberty.com/Symbolsandtheirmeaning.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/3l3ng3
If you go down to Eye of Horus you'll see it encircled with sun rays. These sunbeams are similar to the Obama -looking logo on the Lucis trust website.
See:
http://www.lucistrust.org
Also go down to the ankh which is an Egyptian cross symbolizing rebirth.
If you go to the Obama singing kids video, you'll see the drummer has a symbol like the ankh on his drums. The symbol on his drum also looks a lot like the Thule society symbol, but that wouldn't make much sense since the Thule society supported Hitler's Nazi Party, and Hitler of course wanted just Aryans on the planet. Now my take on that, as I mentioned here a few days ago, is that the whole Atlantis/Aryan society has much more to do with an "enlightened" race (gnossis) than a "light-skinned" race. That would make Obama acceptable to these crazy New Age Atlantis-loving people seeking to make humanity ONE, as Benjamin Creme talks about. More on that in my next comment.
Has anyone seen this Youtube video of Benjamin Creme?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY80O09_VmM&NR=1
Pay particular attention to what he says at the very end of the video about the US having too much wealth and how that relates to 9/11. He goes on to talk briefly about global economics and redistribution of wealth. After listening to that video it's very hard to believe these people are not involved in creating havoc in the global markets right now to bring about their ends.
Now one more thing and please be honest with me. Take a look at the picture of "Maitreya" in the newspaper article that appears in this video. It goes by really quick so you've got to pause the video as soon as you see Maitreya. Maitreya, according to Creme, made an appearance in Narobi, Kenya during the summer of 1988 (Incidently, Obama was there that summer,too.)
Cover the moustache and beard with your hand and also the turban, and then look at just the eyes, nose and eyebrows. Does anything look familiar to you?
As an artist, I see a resemblance to a certain person, but then again, I also saw a mole on the wrong cheek on Sunday. So be honest with me, folks.
The scary thing about all this Maitreya stuff is that I have watched some Rev. Reinhard Bonnke videos that record his evangelizing throughout the world and especially Africa. I know there are those here that disagree with me, but I honestly think Rev. Bonnke is a decent, spirit-filled evangelist, who has led thousands of people to Jesus in third world countries. I listened to his words and watched his actions and saw no heresy in what I saw on those tapes. Yet here is a link to an anti-Bonnke article where Bonnke predicted that people would experience the presence of Jesus and many miracles on a Saturday, in Nairobi, Kenya in June , 1988.
And it happened. When the mysterious white-robed, bearded figure appeared, he apparently said that the people of Kenya were blessed. They bowed down and called him, 'Jesus'. Read about it here...
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/kenyatimes.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/3rd8nr
BYW, does anyone know anything about this Mary Akatsa person mentioned in this article?
At any rate, I am sticking to my guns that Bonnke loves Jesus and has sacrificed his entire life evangelizing the Word in Africa, Mexico,Greece, etc. and brought many to Christ as a result. So if I am correct about Bonnke, what does this mean?
Did Creme hear about the miracle and played off it?
Or did the false prophet/Maitreya make a supernatural appearance and fool many into thinking he was Jesus? And if so, then certainly this doesn't bode well for Rev. Bonnke.
Finally, where does Obama fit into this mess? In my opinion , there's a resemblance and a connection. I wrote about the Maitreya /Obama connection in my blog about a month ago, and I've decided to re-publish that particular post on my blog in connection with this comment. Go here to read:
http://tinyurl.com/4qwmwh
In conclusion, I can see how deadly all this could be in terms of shaking people's faith and deception galore.
Lord help us all.
One last thought regarding my last comment : In view of the fact that the Maitreya/Jesus person/apparition told those people that Kenya wold be blessed, it makes the hooplah over Obama's birth place even more intriguing.
ReplyDeleteDEANNIE NEW PARTY
ReplyDeleteSorry. I never checked out this group. Anything I would find now could be found by you or others.
Dorothy
CORSI
ReplyDeleteHannity interviewed Corsi who said he got papers out of Kenya showing that Obama worked by email with Odinga giving him advice on how to run Odinga's campaign. Stories on World Net Daily.
Dorothy
The speculation on Obama's birthplace are pure nonsense. Obama's mother was clearly a U.S. citizen SINCE HER BIRTH. This is ample to give him "natural; born U.S. Citizenship" (as opposed to naturalized) even if he had been born in Timbuktu or on a cruise ship!
ReplyDeleteCONSTANCE
Hi Dorothy,
ReplyDeleteWe agree on MSNY things, I have MANY problems with Obama but his CITIZENSHIP and his MOTHER'S CITIZENSHIP are not part of them. I have been a licensed lawyer in Michigan since October 23, 1975. I certainly hope to know what citizenship is. His mother was BORN in the USA. There is no evidence whatsoever that she ever relinquished her citzenship and even if she had, she was clearly a citzen when Obama was born.
Constance3
It is difficult to say where Sherry Shriner is coming from. The word "delusional" comes to mind. She believes the Apostle Paul is a heretic. I heard that she and Constance have serious disagreements, but Constance believes everybody is entitled to one kind warning. Constance believes Sherry is sincerely deluded, as I heard it from her, but nevertheless sincere in her fashion, sincere in her way.
ReplyDeleteBarack Obama's skin is way too dark to be the person in the alleged Kenyan photos, which, BTW, I have always believed to be fakes!
ReplyDeleteConstance
http://www.share-international.org/background/miracles/MI_nairobi_pictures.htm
ReplyDeleteMaitreya in Nairobi
Maitreya in Nairobi
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/54p3wx
Sorry, try this TinyURL
Those Maitreya photos definitely look fake to me, too. However I still think there's a resemblance. Maitreya looks darker to me than Obama so goes to show we can't rely on internet photos.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Constance that the idea of Obama's citizenship being questioned is over the top. I also thought it highly unlikely that Obama senior would bring his pregnant American wife to Kenya if he already has a Kenyan wife and kids there. However, Ann Dunham does seem to me like the kind of young woman who would very much have wanted to visit her husband and father of her future child's land of origin, so the idea of her traveling to Kenya in the summer of 1971 seems realistic in view of her personality. But it's also highly unlikely Obama senior would risk the confrontation that would occur if wife #2 found out about wife #1 and vice versa, so I think the whole Kenya birth thing is far fetched ,too.
Quite awhile ago I posted this:
ReplyDeleteSome of you may have listened to RUSH; I remember several years ago a woman on his program engaged him in a rather lengthy debate. I believe her name was Linda. She told the radio audience that conservatives had lost because the universities were filled with professors having flawed premises. Rush, ever the material optimist, told her we had victory in sight and sent her a "sleep comfort" bed so as to get a good nights sleep. This is exactly what unsaved "conservatives" have been doing to our nation for years.
Here is proof:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77278
Hopper,
ReplyDeleteI have noticed several inconsistencies with the economic story that appear on the surface as if this colapse may be of the contrived variety. If you check my previous post regarding the CDS contract issue, which has gotten next to no coverage by the MSM. There was also an article I read regarding naked short selling (authors term not mine), which basically stated that there have been over 200 companies in which stocks were sold, to which IOU's were issued as opposed to an actual stock. Thus driving the price of said stocks down, without ever actually providing real stocks to fill these IOUs. The companies in which these were sold seem to be the ones failing currently ie, Lehman Bros, Fannie, Freddie, Bear Stearns, the list goes on. This article from Forbes explains much better than I can. These things are not being reported by most major media outlets though, which is why it seems suspect.
http://tinyurl.com/449fhk
JD
OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's necessary to copy the relevant pages from the complaint as anyone who wants to read them can do so.
Kenyan relatives of Obama say he was born in Kenya. (#38) There is no question that the mother was a citizen, but a question whether Obama is as she did not live in the US for the required amount of time before his birth. See #76, page 23.
That's all Obama has to do to stop the questioning is produce the documents. The fact that Obama is such a liar in all of the other aspects of his life just make it impossible to accept his word about this very important problem.
Dorothy
http://www.investmentnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081007/REG/810079894
ReplyDeleteEmboldened by Treasury's socialist activities, Democrats in Congress eye 401Ks. The adjectives that come to mind: greedy, power hungry, socialists.
Deannie
JD,
ReplyDeleteHere is another article about derivatives from the same Financial Sense site that Dorothy recommended.
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/amerman/2008/0917.html
It looks pretty bleak.
Deannie