tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post1827733425292124461..comments2024-03-29T03:56:00.726-04:00Comments on My perspective -- What Constance thinks: The Anti-Communitarian League Website -- worth checking outConstance Cumbeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comBlogger188125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-77728938289854439852009-03-05T22:56:00.000-05:002009-03-05T22:56:00.000-05:00Constance has not authorized this request for dona...Constance has not authorized this request for donations to Micro Effect towards her radio program; My Perspective. We want to help Constance stay on the air. MAKE YOUR DONATIONS TO MICRO EFFECT, JOE MCNEIL AT P.O. BOX 164, KAMIAH, ID 83536 Let Joe know in a note either by email at the station or by snail mail with your donation, you are donating to My Perspective Radio program with Constance. Any donation would be appreciated. <BR/><BR/>Also you can donate through the CHIP IN box on the main page of Micro Effect Radio. It's a paypal donation. Just let Joe McNeil know you are putting this toward Constance's show only.<BR/><BR/>Some have already donated. Thanks! MargieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-37697050690930969012008-12-30T00:52:00.000-05:002008-12-30T00:52:00.000-05:00Shem1777 12:16pmThank you so much for posting the ...Shem1777 12:16pm<BR/><BR/>Thank you so much for posting the correct timeline for the burial and resurection of Christ. I had seen this explanation somewhere and was thinking of it while reading the other posts on this "contradiction". It's good to see it here.<BR/><BR/>God Bless you.<BR/><BR/>SuzetteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-44241385118443451912008-12-26T13:08:00.000-05:002008-12-26T13:08:00.000-05:0012/26/2008Joyce,Are you spamming; posting identica...12/26/2008<BR/><BR/>Joyce,<BR/><BR/>Are you spamming; posting identical (very long) messages in two places?<BR/><BR/>LenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-11076466800849155072008-12-26T13:05:00.000-05:002008-12-26T13:05:00.000-05:0012/26/2008Paul,I posted that in the interest of fu...12/26/2008<BR/><BR/>Paul,<BR/><BR/>I posted that in the interest of full disclosure. I was looking for a coherent statement of the view that all four apostles on the subject agree and this was it. <BR/><BR/>I agree with it as much as I agreed with your version.<BR/><BR/>I am preparing a response to it but will not post it for a few more days.<BR/><BR/>Have a nice weekend.<BR/>Len<BR/><BR/>In the meantime enjoy your support.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-32784664655445264032008-12-26T12:12:00.000-05:002008-12-26T12:12:00.000-05:00Len,Thanks for posting the entire article I posted...Len,<BR/>Thanks for posting the entire article I posted by Jack Kelly who quoted from Robert Anderson's calculations. I wanted to but thought it too much space to take up.<BR/><BR/>But I'm glad you did!<BR/><BR/>Although I don't understand the insult that Paul speaks of about you (and don't need to), I was blessed to hear his comment re: Robert Anderson and his opinion on the book "The Coming Prince".<BR/><BR/>Shalom,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-56722298316871137312008-12-26T09:56:00.000-05:002008-12-26T09:56:00.000-05:00LenFirst you insult me and imply thatI have no edu...Len<BR/>First you insult me and imply that<BR/>I have no education.<BR/> Then you proceed to give the <BR/>"correct" timeline based on Sir<BR/>Robert Anderson's calculations.<BR/>But your "corrected" timeline is <BR/>exactly the one which I gave you,<BR/>which proves you didn't read my<BR/>post but simply knee-jerked into<BR/>your usual superior posture.<BR/>I'm a big fan of Sir Robert <BR/>Anderson. "The Coming Prince"<BR/>is a masterpiece.<BR/><BR/>So, you can't stand me or my <BR/>inferior view, but you agree with<BR/>me ?<BR/>Is that what they call a Superiority<BR/>Complex ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-55820448788381932932008-12-26T01:35:00.000-05:002008-12-26T01:35:00.000-05:00Just a little word about Kabbalah that is being ex...Just a little word about Kabbalah that is being explained as "normative Judaism". Rashbi who was born in 80 a.d. and wrote the Zohar, one of the books of Kabbalah followed the failed and false messiah, Simon Bar Kokhba.. There are people that think this man is the reincarnation of people in the Tankakh ( Torah, Writings and Prophets) . <BR/><BR/>As the story goes, he hid himself in a cave for years and got the revelation of the Zohar. Now the difference between Rashbi and Yohanaon, the apostle of Yeshua, is Yohanan followed the Messiah who rose from the dead, and Rashbi followed someone that attacked the Romans but died and was never heard from again.. <BR/><BR/>Okay, let's look at how Kabbalah stands up to Torah:<BR/>Deut. 18:21 “1You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?<BR/>Deut. 18:22 “When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. <BR/><BR/>The fact that Rashbi was a follower of the failed, false Messiah Simon Bar Kokhba should be a big heads up that his very important work of Kabbalah,<BR/>"the Zohar" does not come from a true prophet of God...or he would have had the wisdom not to follow Bar Kokhba. <BR/><BR/>Let's see what Torah says about some of the other practices of Kabbalah. The Kabbalists Israel put a curse on Ariel Sharon. I'm not saying that it worked although I'm sure they think it did when he went into a coma. It looks like they tried to do the same to Olmert:<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/a78jjy<BR/><BR/>So what does Torah say about this kind of evil:<BR/><BR/>Deut. 18:10-11 “There shall not be found among you anyone awho makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one bwho practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who casts a spell, aor a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Now I just want to say that I know Jews that do not consider Kabbalah "normative Judaism". Let's assume though that the Chasidic and some of the Orthodox branch do consider works by a man who followed a failed Messiah "normative Judaism".. What would Torah have to say about that? <BR/><BR/>We know that the true prophets of Tanakh predicted Yeshua's birth, death and resurrection and return. That would include Moses, David, Isaiah, Micah, Zechariah, just to name a few. In fact all of Tanakh is about Yeshua. <BR/><BR/>This week the Jews in synagogues around the world will read the story of Joseph, who was betrayed by his brothers, sold for 20 pieces of silver ( Yeshua was sold for 30 and the Prophet Jeremiah predicted this), was unrecognizable to his brothers until Judah repented and was willing to take the place of Benjamin ( son of my right hand, son of my sorrows). Joseph had the bread of life, but was despised and rejected, betrayed and given to foreigners, like Yeshua was given to the Romans for execution. Joseph was the favored son of his father, Yeshua is the one and only Son of His Father. Joseph reunited the family. Yeshua will reunite the family when He returns. This wholeness is called Shalom. <BR/><BR/>Abraham gave his "one and only son" Isaac up to be sacrificed but said "God would provide the sacrifice".<BR/><BR/>Moses said there is one coming that was greater than he. He saw God face to face.. <BR/><BR/>Isaiah said that Messiah would be bruised for our iniquities and by His wounds we would be healed. <BR/><BR/>Zechariah said we would look upon He who was pierced and weep as one weeps for an only begotten Son. <BR/><BR/>Micah said He would be born in Bethlehem <BR/><BR/>John the Baptist, told us to prepare the way and make our paths straight for him. <BR/><BR/>David said not one of his bones would be broken, his garments would be divided. <BR/><BR/>He is called the second Adam because the first Adam sinned and sin entered the world. <BR/><BR/>Ezekiel said He would bring the two houses of Israel back together...which will be fulfilled in the future as Jewish believers in Yeshua and Joseph, who is in the nations and is unrecognizable to his brother will be recognized...as Judah comes to the realization that Joseph has the bread of life, even though he looks like a goy. <BR/><BR/>Folks this story is key in the reconciliation of All Israel. These are prophecies which will come to pass, but until Judah repents and stops following the false prophets...it will not happen. <BR/><BR/>Just a historical note here. The Jewish believers in Yeshua were still worshipping in the synagogues and going to the Temple till it was destroyed in 70 a.d. In 135 a.d. when the Jewish believers in Yeshua refused to follow the false prophet Simon Bar Kokhba, the real falling out between the other Jews took place. They gave a prayer in the synagogues that would have forced Yeshua's followers to renounce Him, so they stopped going to the synagogues. The other Jews thought the believers in Yeshua were traitors because they would not join forces against Rome with this false messiah. <BR/><BR/>This was the beginning of the split between the Jewish believers in Yeshua and the other Jews. Prior to that, they were considered a sect of Judaism. All the other messiahs of Judaism have failed. Shabbatai Zevi, Simon Bar Kokhba, Jacob Frank. In fact according to Jewish sources Luria, a famous Kabbalist paved the way for the false messiah Shabatai Zevi:<BR/><BR/>http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/Luria.html<BR/><BR/>Then the Chabad movement followed another false messiah :<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Mendel_Schneerson<BR/><BR/>So...when we look at the history of Kabbalah and its influence on Judaism, I am hard pressed to see it either as "normative" or very useful. On the contrary, it seems to have given rise to most if not all the false messiahs. It employs curses which are forbidden in the Torah, and none of its "prophets" have amounted to anything. <BR/><BR/>Today, it seems to be giving rise to people like Rav Michael Laitman, and Eliyahu Benedikt who are total New Agers. Laitman talks about Cybernetics and mixes easily with all kinds of other "mystics" from other traditions. <BR/><BR/>We won't even talk about the sexual content of Kabbalah which is disturbing to say the least. The reason that only men over 40 can study it is somewhat understandable..but God does not hide His truths from us.. contrary to what Kabbalah says. <BR/><BR/>This is what the false prophets of Kabbalah do:<BR/><BR/>Jer. 23:16 Thus says the LORD of hosts, <BR/> “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you. <BR/> They are leading you into futility; <BR/> They speak a vision of their own imagination, <BR/> Not from the mouth of the LORD.<BR/><BR/>Look what God says about these kind of "prophets"<BR/><BR/>Jer. 23:22-23“But if they had astood in My council, <BR/> Then they would have announced My words to My people, <BR/> And would have turned them back from their evil way <BR/> And from the evil of their deeds. <BR/>“Am I a God who is near,” declares the LORD, <BR/> “And not a God far off? <BR/><BR/>God doesn't have some hidden things only for 40 year old men to study:<BR/><BR/>Deut. 29:29 “The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but bthe things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law. <BR/><BR/>Nor is it so complicated that only the Kabbalists can show it to us:<BR/><BR/>Deut. 30:11-13“For this commandment which I command you today is not too difficult for you, nor is it out of reach. “It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who will go up to heaven for us to get it for us and make us hear it, that we may observe it?’ “Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who will cross the sea for us to get it for us and make us hear it, that we may observe it?’ <BR/><BR/>It doesn't sound like we need some secret wisdom to know what God is talking about. <BR/><BR/>God has revealed all to us and it is plain to see who Messiah is:<BR/><BR/>Prov. 30:4 Who has aascended into heaven and descended? <BR/> Who has gathered the wind in His fists? <BR/> Who has cwrapped the waters in His garment? <BR/> Who has established all the ends of the earth? <BR/> What is His name or His son’s name? <BR/> Surely you know! <BR/><BR/>Yes, the Name of His Son is Yeshua! <BR/><BR/>Kabbalist have supposed received special revelations and in fact they consider themselves the reincarnation of people like Moses, which is utterly absurd. There are no examples of reincarnation in the Bible, only in Hinduism. All the people that God spoke through in Tanakh and the Apostolic Scriptures spoke the truth plainly because we do not serve a God of confusion. There are no more prophets because God's Word says:<BR/><BR/>Heb. 1:1-4 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. <BR/>And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become as much better than the angels, as He has inherited a more excellent name than they. <BR/><BR/>and from Paul:<BR/><BR/>2Cor. 4:2-5 but we have renounced the things hidden because of shame, not walking in craftiness or adulterating the word of God, but by the manifestation of truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God. <BR/>And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. <BR/> For we ado not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus’ sake. <BR/><BR/>There is nothing hidden, that hasn't been revealed. God has spoken and He has spoke through His Son, <BR/>Yeshua the Messiah, so all of the so-called prophets of Kabbalah are false. <BR/><BR/><BR/>JoyceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-18792588311809437372008-12-25T22:35:00.000-05:002008-12-25T22:35:00.000-05:0012/25/2008Thanks, Barb,Again, neither of your lkik...12/25/2008<BR/><BR/>Thanks, Barb,<BR/>Again, neither of your lkiks did it for me, booth being about the "end times." But, persistent as I am, I put the title and authior in for a search and it popped up here:<BR/><BR/>http://demo.gracethrufaith.com/<BR/>wp-content/uploads/2008/05/<BR/>solving-the-three-day-three-night-mystery.pdf<BR/><BR/>For reference I will set the entire article here (I think Paul excerpted from it previously) and discuss it in the next message. It is not copyrighted.<BR/><BR/>Solving the Three Day Three Night Mystery<BR/><BR/>How long was Jesus<BR/>really in the tomb?<BR/><BR/>Tough Questions Answered<BR/><BR/>In Matthew 12:38 Jesus is asked for a sign that He’s the promised<BR/>Messiah. The religious officials had just accused Him of using<BR/>the power of Satan to perform His miracles, and so He described<BR/>the only sign they would see. “Just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish,” He said, “So will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth<BR/>(12:40).” By this He meant that they would only know for sure after<BR/>they had put Him to death, but His response resulted in a 2000<BR/>year controversy surrounding the time of His death.<BR/><BR/>What's a Sabbath?<BR/><BR/>Actually the controversy exists largely among gentile believers.<BR/>Most Jews familiar with their religion figured it out long ago. But to a gentile ignorant of the Jewish calendar, the phrase in John<BR/>19:31 identifying the day after the Crucifixion as a special Sabbath meant that Jesus was crucified on Friday. Even gentiles know that the Jewish Sabbath is Saturday and everyone agrees that He rose again on Sunday. There isn’t any way you can put three days and three nights between Friday afternoon and Sunday morning. Hence the<BR/>controversy.<BR/><BR/>Sabbath means holy day. There is one every Saturday in Israel, but<BR/>there are also several during the year that are date specific. That<BR/>means they are always observed on a specific calendar date,<BR/>regardless of the weekday. Think of Christmas. It always comes on<BR/>the 25th of December no matter what day of the week that happens to be. The special Sabbath John referred to is the Feast of<BR/>Unleavened Bread, and it’s a date specific holy day; always observed on the 15th of the [Jewish lunar] month they call Nisan. So the first<BR/>thing we learn is that the special Sabbath mentioned in John 19:31 wasn’t necessarily a Saturday.<BR/><BR/>In fact there are three special Sabbaths in the month of Nisan alone; Passover on the 14th, the Feast of Unleavened Bread which begins on the 15th and runs through the 22nd, and the Feast of First Fruits on the Sunday morning following Passover. All have both a historical and prophetic purpose and like all days in the Jewish calendar they begin<BR/>at sundown, following the pattern of Genesis 1. This also<BR/>confuses Gentiles since our day begins at midnight.<BR/><BR/>The Passover Lamb<BR/><BR/>In Exodus 12 where the Passover is ordained, God told the Israelites<BR/>to select a lamb on the 10th and inspect it for defects until the 14th. This means through the end of the 13th. Then at twilight slaughter and roast it, eating it that same evening. Using some of its blood they were to paint their door posts red to protect them from the plague coming upon Egypt at midnight. Following our calendar, these events would<BR/>have all occurred on the night of the 13th but for them the 14th began at twilight, when the sun set.<BR/><BR/>Tradition, Tradition<BR/><BR/>Some years before the birth of Jesus the Passover celebration had<BR/>been changed and called for a brief ceremonial meal to begin the<BR/>14th followed by a great and leisurely Sabbath meal on the 15th. This tradition is still followed today. The 14th became known as Preparation Day (Mark 15:42, Luke 23:54, John 19:31), because on it they made ready for the great feast day beginning<BR/>at sundown. It’s also called<BR/>the first day of Unleavened<BR/>bread in Mark 14:12. Matthew<BR/>identifies the day after the<BR/>Crucifixion as the day after<BR/>Preparation Day (27:62) so all four Gospels agree. Jesus died on<BR/>Preparation day, the 14th of their month Nisan, which is Passover. He<BR/>ate the ceremonial meal with His disciples in the Upper Room, and<BR/>then was arrested, tried, convicted, and put to death; all on Passover. While we commemorate these events on Good Friday, in the year of His death, Passover fell on a Thursday.<BR/><BR/>How Do We Know This?<BR/><BR/>A little over 100 years ago a believer named Robert Anderson<BR/>was head of Scotland Yard’s investigative division. He became<BR/>intrigued by the three days and three nights issue and enlisted the<BR/>help of the London Royal Observatory to investigate the problem since astronomers can locate the exact position of the planets and stars on any date in history. Since Passover always falls on the 14th, and since<BR/>the Jewish calendar is lunar (moon) rather than solar (sun) oriented, there is always a full moon on Passover. This fulfills Genesis 1:14. Plotting the course of the Sun and Moon they documented the day and date of every full moon. The Royal Observatory discovered that<BR/>the first Palm Sunday was the 10th of Nisan, Passover, the 14th was<BR/>therefore a Thursday, and Resurrection Morning was also a Sunday, the 17th. From Thursday afternoon through Sunday morning there are three days and three nights. Both the Jewish and Gentile calendars confirm this. It was written in the stars.<BR/><BR/>So in the week Jesus died two Sabbaths were observed: The Feast of Unleavened Bread on the 15th, and the regular weekly Sabbath<BR/>on the 16th. In Matthew 28:1 we read that at dawn on the first day of the week (Sunday the 17th) the women who were close to Jesus<BR/>went to look at the tomb. Luke 24:1tells us they were going to anoint His body for burial. The two Sabbaths had prevented them from doing so earlier. But He wasn’t there. He had risen. Being the Sunday after Passover, at the Jewish Temple it was Feast of First Fruits. At the Empty Tomb it was Resurrection Morning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-66886057447490293142008-12-25T21:39:00.000-05:002008-12-25T21:39:00.000-05:00Len,Try this one. http://www.prophecyforum.com/ke...Len,<BR/>Try this one. <BR/>http://www.prophecyforum.com/kelley/mystery.html<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/8x7pg8<BR/><BR/>Solving the Three Day Three Night Mystery by Jack Kelley<BR/><BR/>Q. – Is anyone else finding their “google” searches not providing the proper links?<BR/>The title and the subtitle will match but the link given to the site is wrong.<BR/><BR/>Shalom,<BR/>BarbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-54462153274312205372008-12-25T21:24:00.000-05:002008-12-25T21:24:00.000-05:0012/25/2008Dear Paul,Thanks for the lesson in Judai...12/25/2008<BR/><BR/>Dear Paul,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the lesson in Judaism. Close but no cigar! May I humbly suggest that, for the next lesson, you seek Jewish sources instead of a Christian one. I suggest a source like:<BR/><BR/>www.mechon-mamre.org/jewfaq/index.htm<BR/><BR/>First, you should know that a "day" for Jewish religious purposes, begins the evening before. We can learn that from Gen. 1 where we can read: "and it was evening and it was morning, one day." (Gen. 1:5)<BR/><BR/>That is the reason your explanation says: "These two Feasts were both collectively <BR/>called 'Passover' and/or 'Unleavened Bread',<BR/>and they still are." <BR/><BR/>If you study Exod. 12:6f you will see that the Passover lamb was slaughtered at *twilight* on the <BR/>14th and eaten at night so it was essentially on the 15th; the same day as the Festival of Unleavened Bread. <BR/><BR/>Second, you wrote: "It was/ is a celebration that goes on for a <BR/>whole week, (though they could work<BR/>after the First day of Unleavened Bread until it's last day, which began Pentecost which is fifty days long, or a jubilee of <BR/>weeks, or the Feast of Weeks.)<BR/><BR/>We do not work on the last day as well as the first, pursuant to your own biblical sources: Exod. 12:16 and Lev.23:5-8.<BR/><BR/>"And on the first day there shall be a holy convocation, and on the seventh day you shall have a holy convocation; no work may be performed on them, ---." (Exod. 12:16)<BR/><BR/>Third, we refer to Pentacost as the 50th-day celebration of Weeks/Shavuot so it does not begin on the last day of Passover.<BR/><BR/>Fourth, the biblical counting of the 50 days begins on the second day, not the last, pursuant again to your source, Lev. 23:15-16:<BR/><BR/>And you shall count for yourselves, from the morrow of the rest day (of the first day) from the day you bring the omer as a wave offering seven weeks; they shall be complete. You shall count until the day after the seventh week, [namely,] the fiftieth day, [on which] you shall bring a new meal offering to the Lord.<BR/><BR/>I will not comment on your Christian stuff other than to say that, if you undestood the reasoning behind the Passover sacrifice, you would not be so anxious to call Jesus "the lamb."<BR/><BR/>It is exactly because the Egyptians worshipped sheep and did not eat them. Just as you worship the Lamb, the Egyptians similarly worshipped lambs. They also hated shepherds for similar reasons. It was Egyptian idolatry that led to their lamb worship.<BR/><BR/>When Pharaoh told Moses he would let the Jews sacrifice to their God, but within Egypt, Moses replied: “It would not be right to do this, for what we sacrifice to the Lord our God is untouchable to the Egyptians. If we sacrifice what is untouchable to the Egyptians before their very eyes, will they not stone us? (Exod. 8:22)<BR/><BR/>Rashi, the great exigate, wrote, "for all shepherds are an abomination to the Egyptians" because the Egyptians worshipped sheep." This sets the stage for the events of the Exodus. <BR/><BR/>When God tells Moses and Aaron to tell each family to draw out a lamb (Ex. 12:3), we interpet it metaphorically as drawing out from the Egyptian idolatrous environment. The Midrash states: "So it was with Israel in Egypt that they were given to idolatry and did not forsake it, for it is written, 'But they did not every man cast away the abominations of their eyes. (Ezek. 20:7-8)’ Said the Holy One, blessed be He, to Moses: As long as the Israelites worship the Egyptian gods they shall not be redeemed. Go and tell them to forsake their evil ways and repudiate idolatry -- as it is written, 'Draw out and take you ---' that is to say, 'Withdraw your hands from idolatry and take you a lamb, and slaughter thereby the Egyptian gods and make the Passover."<BR/><BR/>The LORD stuck it to the Egyptians by singling out their lord for sacrifice. The principle was that, if Egyptians were going to commit idolatry by worshipping a lamb, then God's people will sacrifice these false gods and objects of idolatry; exactly opposing and denigrating the Egyptian belief system. It was self assertion, on the part of the Israelites, and repudiation of their masters.<BR/><BR/>Are you still sure you want too calll Jesus "the lamb?"<BR/><BR/>LenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-13421337227852565552008-12-25T17:09:00.000-05:002008-12-25T17:09:00.000-05:00Len, Why ask me ?The answer is in the Torah.Exodus...Len,<BR/> Why ask me ?<BR/>The answer is in the Torah.<BR/>Exodus 12 will tell you all about the Passover.<BR/>Leviticus 23: Will show you how The Passover,<BR/>as a "memorial every year by an ordinance<BR/>forever", like all the feasts, <BR/>was to be followed the very next day by the<BR/>Feast of Unleavened Bread, which is also <BR/>a memorial of that same event. <BR/> These two Feasts were both collectively <BR/>called "Passover" and/or "Unleavened Bread",<BR/>and they still are. <BR/>It was/ is a celebration that goes on for a <BR/>whole week, (though they could work<BR/>after the First day of Unleavened Bread <BR/>until it's last day, which began Pentecost<BR/>which is fifty days long, or a jubilee of <BR/>weeks, or the Feast of Weeks.)<BR/> Matthew , Mark, and Luke referred to <BR/>that season and festival in Jerusalem<BR/>in the various ways that it was referred<BR/>to by the various people. John gave the <BR/>most accurate discription from the point<BR/>of view of a devout Jew who just <BR/>happened to be Jesus' best friend <BR/>on earth. <BR/>The "Last Supper" was a preparation <BR/>for the Passover. To correct myself from<BR/>my previous post, this would have been <BR/>just after sundown on what we call <BR/>Wednesday. And to make the same <BR/>update of my own previous post. The <BR/>three day and three night count begins<BR/>at his burial just before sundown <BR/>on what we would call Thursday. <BR/>Jesus was the Passover Lamb; <BR/>The Preparation was because the food <BR/>had to be prepared against <BR/>not only the Passover,<BR/>but it's following day, the Feast of <BR/>Unleavened Bread and in this case,<BR/>on this particular year, they would <BR/>have had to prepare against even <BR/>the third day,which was the weekly<BR/>Sabbath. ( It's relation to the weekly <BR/>Sabbath changed every year )<BR/>Then, on the "Morrow after the Sabbath"<BR/>or first Sunday following Unleavened <BR/>Bread He arose in victory over death,<BR/>which would have been "perfectly" on<BR/>the Feast of Firstfruits, which is<BR/>what he is, also. <BR/> <BR/>God's Word is perfect. My words are <BR/>not, necessarily. But I would still<BR/>maintain that he suffered the pain <BR/>of hell for a whole night before they <BR/>crucified him. Such is the depth of the <BR/>Savior's love for us. The Father smote<BR/>the Shepherd and the sheep were <BR/>scattered. <BR/>But I'll bet that they had a Passover <BR/>seder that night right after he died.<BR/>They would have kept it despite <BR/>everything; their sorrow, their<BR/>disillusionment and their utter dispair.<BR/> He was "three days and three nights<BR/>in the belly of the whale" ( earth )<BR/>Thank you for pointing that out Len.<BR/>Reading the words of Jonah is a <BR/>description of his suffering:<BR/><BR/>Jonah 2:2 ..I cried by reason of<BR/>my affliction unto the Lord, and<BR/>He heard me; out of the belly<BR/>of hell cried I, and thou heardest<BR/>my voice.<BR/>( read the rest )<BR/>see also: Lev. 25 and Numbers 29Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-7524010255819343112008-12-25T16:03:00.000-05:002008-12-25T16:03:00.000-05:0012/25/2008Joyce wrote: "Don't worry. .If Yeshua is...12/25/2008<BR/><BR/>Joyce wrote: "Don't worry. .If Yeshua isn't who He said He was.. my prayers will not work, but if He is ...you will be blessed..How bad can that be..?"<BR/><BR/>I look at it differently, more confidently, pursuant to what King David said to Gad: <BR/><BR/>"I am greatly oppressed; let us fall now into the hand of the Lord; for His mercies are great; but into the hand of man let me not fall." <BR/><BR/>Len<BR/>(2 Sam. 24:14)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-19978317758683709032008-12-25T15:45:00.000-05:002008-12-25T15:45:00.000-05:0012/25/2008Paul wrote: "Pentacostsorry I meant to s...12/25/2008<BR/><BR/>Paul wrote: "Pentacost<BR/>sorry I meant to say He was with <BR/>the disciples seven weeks or <BR/>fifty days, minus one."<BR/><BR/>I got here after my last message. The Jewish interpretation is that the revelation at Mt. Sinai occurred the 50th day after the Exodus.<BR/><BR/>Shavuot is, in this sense, connected to Pesach/Passover and is considered by many to represent the culmination of the Passover season; hence, the name, “Weeks.” The significance of the connection is that freedom, per se, is a problematic gift unless it is accompanied by transcendent meaning and purpose. These were provided at Sinai where political liberation was transformed to spiritual dedication.<BR/><BR/>In Halakha, Jewish law, the amount of material on Shavuot is minimal; less than that for any other major holy day. This is because, of all the festivals, Shavuot is unique in that it lacks a particular ritual symbol. Pesach has matza, Succoth the succah/booth as well as the etrog and lulav (four species of vegetation). Rosh Hashanah has the shofar (ram's horn), and Yom Kippur is associated with fasting. The nature of, and treatment, of these symbols occupies much of the festivals.<BR/><BR/>For Shavuot, however, the symbol is the Torah itself. Incorporation of an alternative symbol might have conveyed the impression that it was the way to honor the Torah, whereas the Torah should be studied and applied to peoples' daily lives throughout the year. It should be applied in the home and in the workplace as much as in the synagogue. Accordingly, the tradition decided not to cloud Shavuot with a holiday-specific symbol so as to focus on the centrality of Torah.<BR/><BR/>It is Torah, not ethnicity, which has enabled Jews to survive as a people for thousands of years. Without Torah Jews would not be a people and Judaism not a religion.<BR/><BR/>We mark the seven-times-seven (49) intervening days by formally counting each one, in accordance with Lev. 23:15, much as one does when anticipating an exciting event. As the event approaches the excitement intensifies.<BR/><BR/>the Torah was given in a no-man’s land, the desert of Sinai, rather than in the promised land. The Jewish Sages reasoned that the purpose was to emphasize that the Torah did not belong to Jews alone but is available for all people. A world that is a desert, with respect to law, can be transformed into a garden of harmony among peoples by following the Guide of guides of human relationships.<BR/><BR/>In the same vein, the story of Moses’ father in law, Jethro, and the Book of Ruth, both of which are traditionally read on Shavuot, emphasize universal themes. Jethro and Ruth were not born Jews. Both, however, came to worship the God of Israel, who is also the God of all humanity. According to the Bible, the Messiah will be descended from Ruth, the convert, who was the great grandmother of King David. Ruth was a convert who voluntarily added the Jewishly mandated commandments to herself. <BR/><BR/>The last verse of the Tanakh (in 2Chronicles) features King Cyrus, also a non Jew. “Thus said King Cyrus of Persia: Lord, God of Heaven has given me all the kingdoms of the earth, and has charged me with building Him a House in Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Any one of you of all His people, The Lord his God be with him and let him go up (2Chron. 36:23).” <BR/><BR/>As Rabbi Benjamin Blech has written, “When the non-Jewish king, Cyrus, proclaims God as the God of Heaven and of earth, the Scriptures may come to their proper conclusion. ... That recognition marks the dawn of the day when the Lord of Israel will in fact be the One God of the entire world."<BR/><BR/>LenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-61559704371443377612008-12-25T15:27:00.000-05:002008-12-25T15:27:00.000-05:0012/25/2008In a continuation of his message Paul de...12/25/2008<BR/><BR/>In a continuation of his message Paul described significant “seven” Jewish biblical holy days. Let me modify them for greater accuracy.<BR/><BR/>1) Passover<BR/>2) Unleavened Bread<BR/><BR/>These are a single festival: Passover.<BR/><BR/>3) Firstfruits<BR/>4) Pentacost<BR/><BR/>Also a single festival known as “Shavuot – (Seven) Weeks.” (Not five! Even the Christian Pentecost is The <B>seventh </B> Sunday after Easter, commemorating the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the disciples. Cheeck it out.<BR/><BR/>5) Trumpets <BR/><BR/>The Torah describes this as the day of blowing of the shofar – ram’s horn. It is more commonly known as Rosh Hashana or the New Year and is the anniversary of Adam’s creation. <BR/><BR/>6) Atonement<BR/><BR/>Yom Kippur – Day of Atonement.<BR/><BR/>7) Tabernacles<BR/><BR/>Sukkot in Hebrew.<BR/><BR/>I'm not trying to convert you Paul.<BR/>I'm just stating a little bit of God’s Torah.<BR/>I really can't help myself<BR/><BR/>LenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-61465300975132234252008-12-25T15:12:00.000-05:002008-12-25T15:12:00.000-05:0012/25/2008paul said... “The Torah didn't have a "f...12/25/2008<BR/>paul said... “The Torah didn't have a "face". It was<BR/>abstract. A pure spirit doesn't have a <BR/>face or even a body.<BR/>Jesus was God incarnate.<BR/>The Torah "became flesh and dwelt <BR/>among us."<BR/><BR/>That is a problem that <B>EDUCATED</B> Jews don’t face because they assimilate the view of a transcendent God with mother’s milk. But having a visible god is its own problem and is considered by the Torah as idolatry. That is why God warned at the Sinai revelation:<BR/><BR/>Deut. 4: 9 But beware and watch yourself very well, lest you forget the things that your eyes saw, and lest these things depart from your heart, all the days of your life, and you shall make them known to your children and to your children's children, 10 the day you stood before the Lord your God at Horeb, when the Lord said to me, "Assemble the people for Me, and I will let them hear My words, that they may learn to fear Me all the days that they live on the earth, and that they may teach their children. 11 And you approached and stood at the foot of the mountain, and the mountain burned with fire up to the midst of the heavens, with darkness, a cloud, and opaque darkness. <BR/><BR/>12 The Lord spoke to you out of the midst of the fire; <B>you heard the sound of the words, but saw no image, just a voice.</B> ---<BR/><BR/>15 And you shall watch yourselves very well, for <B>you did not see not any image on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire. 16 Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation of any form, the likeness of male or female, 17 the likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the heaven, 18 the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters, beneath the earth.</B><BR/><BR/>Vss. 16-18 are a reprise of the Second Commandment.<BR/><BR/>Paul said “I'm just too flawed and weak in the flesh. In fact,<BR/>even those Pharasees couldn't follow it<BR/>to perfection.<BR/>But Jesus told us all: "Unless your right-<BR/>eousness EXCEEDS that of the Pharasees,<BR/>you will in no way enter into heaven"<BR/>Where does that leave someone like me?<BR/>It would be hopeless for me.<BR/>But the Bible says that he will impart<BR/>HIS righteousness to us. Indeed we<BR/>will possess and embody HIS own<BR/>righteousness. It's the only hope.<BR/><BR/>Do you think most Jews are any less flawed than you are? I am at least as flawed. But Jesus was not speaking for Judaism when he said that. Ezekiel, a true prophet, had a more accurate message of God’s to imperfect humans; one that says repentance and change bring salvation:<BR/><BR/>18: 27 And when a wicked man repents of his wickedness that he has done, and does justice and righteousness, he will keep his soul alive. 28 He will see and repent of all his transgressions that he has committed-he shall surely live; he shall not die. 29 And yet the house of Israel say, 'The way of the Lord is not right!' Is it My ways that are not right, O house of Israel? Is it not rather your ways that are not right? 30 Therefore, every man according to his ways I will judge you, O house of Israel, says the Lord God: repent and cause others to repent of all your transgressions, and it will not be a stumbling block of iniquity for you. 31 Cast away from yourselves all your transgressions whereby you have transgressed, and make yourselves a new heart and a new spirit, and why should you die, O house of Israel! 32 For I do not desire the death of him who dies, says the Lord God: so turn away and live!"<BR/><BR/>LenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-15554925801713912672008-12-25T15:11:00.000-05:002008-12-25T15:11:00.000-05:00Dear Len and Dorothy,Don't worry. .If Yeshua isn't...Dear Len and Dorothy,<BR/><BR/>Don't worry. .If Yeshua isn't who He said He was.. my prayers will not work, but if He is ...you will be blessed..How bad can that be..?<BR/><BR/>b'Shem Yeshua,<BR/>JoyceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-40136579682657034612008-12-25T15:09:00.000-05:002008-12-25T15:09:00.000-05:00...And also Abba, may the name of Yeshua be lifted......And also Abba, may the name of Yeshua be lifted up and glorified on this blog, the name that you have chosen above every other name in heaven and on the earth, that at the sound of this name every knee will bend and every tongue will confess that Yeshua is Lord to the praise and the glory of Your Name. Amen...<BR/><BR/>Thank you Abba, that Your Word is truth... and I ask your forgiveness for those who are eyes have be blinded so that they do not see the Light of the Gospel. May you open the eyes of their understanding so that they will know how high and how deep and how wide your love is...that you gave your one and only Son to be a ransom for <BR/>their sins..<BR/><BR/><BR/>Thank you Abba in advance for what You will do in Len and Dorothy and YS's life. Yeshua's Name, <BR/><BR/>I bless them all in the Your Son's Name!<BR/><BR/>JoyceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-84125412924710445432008-12-25T15:03:00.000-05:002008-12-25T15:03:00.000-05:00Len:It is apparent to anyone who reads Joyce's ran...Len:<BR/><BR/>It is apparent to anyone who reads Joyce's rants that she has some serious "issues" as a human being.<BR/>Nearly all who post here are Christians. This leads me to conclude that Joyce's primary objective is to stir up animosity toward the Jewish religion amongst Christians. <BR/><BR/>Let me explain to you how I see this at work. <BR/><BR/>Joyce's self-proclaimed identity as a "Jew" gives the Christians here who identify with her a safety valve by which they can say, "I know Joyce, she is a Jew, and therefore my beliefs about Judaism, and my words and actions in relation to Jews, cannot be anti-semitic."<BR/><BR/>She plays off their latent guilt and ignorance about Judaism in order to manipulate their emotions. Very few Christians want to be accused of antisemitism. Having Joyce as their cheerleader allows the Christians here who follow her to "have it both ways."<BR/><BR/>Joyce avoids difficult questions and dances and weaves here way around others. Her latest stunt, which she has unveiled strategically on Christmas Day, is to try to stir up a lynch mob by accusing you of "blasphemy." It's easy for some of the dimmer bulbs here to get behind this kind of lynch mob. After all, the mob is being led by a "Jew" named Joyce, who, like them, worships Jesus (Yeshua).<BR/><BR/>Do you see the pattern here?<BR/><BR/>Her antics only works with Christians whose critical thinking skills are underdeveloped. (Since mine are overdeveloped to a fault, she can't touch me, fortunately. LOL.)<BR/><BR/>You, by contrast, will address any question that is put before you. I may disagree with some of your answers (this is inevitable given our religious differences) but I admire your straight-shooting style.<BR/><BR/>At this point numerous readers here will undoubtedly have noticed that at the Cumbey blog we now have a "war of attrition."<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy<BR/><BR/>Peace be with you Len.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-9894537966627834952008-12-25T15:01:00.000-05:002008-12-25T15:01:00.000-05:00"Not only does she persist in general but is shock..."Not only does she persist in general but is shockingly intrusive in her insistence on praying for me personally, in the name of her god, after I pleaded with her to desist."<BR/><BR/>May Abba open the eye's of Len's understanding that he would see the Yeshua, the Light of the world, His Jewish Messiah.. In the powerful, awesome an holy name of My God, My Lord and My King, Yeshua!<BR/><BR/>The real Joyce ( not the imposter who signed in my name with ;o)) <BR/><BR/>I am not ashamed of the gospel of Messiah, it is the power of salvation of all who believer, first to the Jew, then to the Greek...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-79689989883186154882008-12-25T14:41:00.000-05:002008-12-25T14:41:00.000-05:0012/25/2008Dear Barb,I went to your recommended si...12/25/2008<BR/><BR/>Dear Barb,<BR/><BR/>I went to your recommended site:<BR/><BR/>http://content/uploads/<BR/>2008/05/<BR/>solving-the-three-day-three-<BR/>night-mystery.pdf<BR/><BR/>but got a Broken-Link message.<BR/><BR/>LenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-31118587555207511012008-12-25T14:32:00.000-05:002008-12-25T14:32:00.000-05:0012/25/2008Paul asserts: “There's nothing wrong wit...12/25/2008<BR/><BR/>Paul asserts: “There's nothing wrong with the timeline or the narrative. There's also NO discrepancy between the Gospels. None.”<BR/><BR/>I am always willing to learn, Paul. Here are the four KJV quotes; the synoptics, that show the last supper as a Passover seder, plus John which clearly shows, in 19:14, that he is crucified before the evening of Passover; before the seder.<BR/><BR/>What am I missing?<BR/><BR/>Mat: 26:17: Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover? <BR/>18: And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples. <BR/>19: And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover. <BR/>20: Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve. ---<BR/>27: 1: When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death:<BR/><BR/>Mark 14: 16: And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover. <BR/>17: And in the evening he cometh with the twelve. <BR/>18: And as they sat and did eat, Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, One of you which eateth with me shall betray me.---<BR/>15: 1: And straightway in the morning the chief priests held a consultation with the elders and scribes and the whole council, and bound Jesus, and carried him away, and delivered him to Pilate.<BR/><BR/>Luke 22:1: Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover. <BR/>2: And the chief priests and scribes sought how they might kill him; for they feared the people.---<BR/>13: And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover. <BR/>14: And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. <BR/>15: And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: <BR/>16: For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. <BR/>17: And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: <BR/>18: For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. <BR/>19: And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.<BR/><BR/>John 12: 1: Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead. <BR/>2: There they made him a supper; and Martha served: but Lazarus was one of them that sat at the table with him. ---<BR/>13: 1: Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.<BR/>29: For some of them thought, because Judas had the bag, that Jesus had said unto him, Buy those things that we have need of against the feast; or, that he should give something to the poor.<BR/>18: 27: Peter then denied again: and immediately the cock crew. <BR/>28: Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover. <BR/>29: Pilate then went out unto them, and said, What accusation bring ye against this man?<BR/>19:13: When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. <BR/>14: And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! <BR/>15: But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priest answered, We have no king but Caesar. <BR/>16: Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-91741361569571861552008-12-25T13:30:00.000-05:002008-12-25T13:30:00.000-05:0012/25/2008Joyce wrote: “He's been sent to the blog...12/25/2008<BR/><BR/>Joyce wrote: “He's been sent to the blog to speak against Yeshua, so I really don't think it's worth "dialoging"..My humble opinion. Len is not a professional "interfaith dialoguer" but he's an "anti-missionary type who was sent here to combat against a Jew talking about her Messiah, and now since I haven't engaged with him and others are he's being given room on the blog to try to undermine the name of Yeshua.”<BR/><BR/>Merry Christmas.<BR/><BR/>Not only is Joyce wrong but she is the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. I am contributing, as best I can, for one reason only: It is because she had the pulpit to herself proselytizing to Jews using pseudo-biblical reasoning.<BR/><BR/>I have made it clear, several times, that I will stop discussing religion entirely if Joyce stops proselytizing. Not only does she persist in general but is shockingly intrusive in her insistence on praying for me personally, in the name of her god, after I pleaded with her to desist. <BR/><BR/>How much more arrogant than this can someone be?<BR/><BR/>Then Joyce uses moral equivalence to attempt to drown me out. There are many intellectual “theologians” and archaeologists out there attacking the veracity of the Jewish Bible; the Tanakh. Therefore anyone who points out flaws in the New Testament is equivalent to those attackers.<BR/><BR/>Only Joyce is believable; no one else.<BR/><BR/>Joyce; I am ready to answer any of your Tanakh criticisms. Go for it.<BR/><BR/>All I ask in return is for you to deal with the issues instead of making cheap personal attacks.<BR/><BR/>LenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-81080714006066993282008-12-25T13:24:00.000-05:002008-12-25T13:24:00.000-05:00Thank you Anonymous 10:55 A.M., Here is a good te...Thank you Anonymous 10:55 A.M.,<BR/><BR/> Here is a good teaching on Tod Bentley et al. <BR/><BR/> UnsealedProphecy.net, september 23 postShem1777https://www.blogger.com/profile/08373550409557789255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-45878878773494740612008-12-25T12:22:00.000-05:002008-12-25T12:22:00.000-05:00Hey Joyce,Gotcha ;-)JoyceHey Joyce,<BR/><BR/>Gotcha ;-)<BR/><BR/>JoyceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-13371409572790384062008-12-25T12:17:00.000-05:002008-12-25T12:17:00.000-05:00HI Ron,That was awfully nice of you to give your n...HI Ron,<BR/>That was awfully nice of you to give your name, but I don't think it would be wise of me to send my Jewish friends to this blog. If your a smart fella, you should be able to figure that out..<BR/><BR/>JoyceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com