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Joyce wrote: “Our righteousness comes f...5/19/2009<br /><br />Joyce wrote: “Our righteousness comes from Yeshua's perfect obedience to Torah and then His substitutionary atonement. Once our sins are removed, of course we should walk in conformity with the identity already given to us. “<br /><br />Jesus obedience does absolutely nothing for you if you are disobedient. And vicarious atonement is a contradiction of God’s word.<br /><br />Moses offered to take the hit for his people who worshipped the Golden Calf but God rejected his offer:<br /> <br />Moses pleaded: “--- erase me from the record which You have written." But God replied to Moses, <br />‘HE WHO HAS SINNED AGAINST ME, ONLY HIM WILL I ERASE FROM MY RECORD (Ex. 32:32,33).’”<br /> <br />Also, on vicarious sacrifice:<br /> <br />“The fathers shall not die for the children, neither shall the children die for the fathers; EVERY MAN SHALL DIE FOR HIS OWN SIN.” (Deuteronomy 24:16)<br /><br />And Jeremiah! This is about God returning the exiled Jews to their land following the destruction of the in the 8th Century BCE. They are returning because they sincerely repented for the sins which led to exile in the first place. In Judaism confession (to one’s self and God) and repentance earns atonement on Yom Kippur. We don’t need anyone to die for our sins because God tempers justice with mercy. <br /><br />Jer. 31:28 In those days, they shall no longer say, "Fathers have eaten unripe grapes, and the teeth of the children shall be set on edge." 29 But each man shall die for his own iniquity; whoever eats the unripe grapes- his teeth shall be set on edge.<br /><br /><br />And Ezekiel :<br />20 The soul that sins, it shall die; a son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, and a father shall not bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.<br /><br /><br />Also Ezekiel on the power of repentance -- just a few lines later reads: <br />“As for the wicked man, if he should repent from all the sins he committed, and keeps all My laws and does what is just and right; he shall surely live. He will not die. None of his transgressions will be remembered against him; because of the righteousness he has practiced, he shall live. ‘Do I desire the death of the wicked man?’ says the Lord, God. It is rather that he shall turn back from his ways and live.” (18:21-23) This idea is repeated again and again till the end of 18 with the final sentance being, <br />“REPENT AND LIVE.” <br /> <br />No perhaps you can show me where God said it is OK to have someone, even a son of God, sacrifice himself for his friends. And the fact that Jesus did not sacrifice himself but was murdered -- and died saying, "Lord, Lord; why have you foresaken me." are besides the point. Right?<br /> <br />>>Just because I'm forgiven, doesn't give me the right to keep sinning. That would be a mockery of God's free gift. Justification has ALWAYS been by faith, not by works. --- read Hebrews 11 and that will explain it well. Faith is what pleases God. If we have real faith, the works will follow, so that's what James means by "faith without works is dead". It's not that our works justify us, rather good works is a fruit of having faith. <br /><br />James had it right and Hebrews 11 was close – but no cigar. Jeremiah wrote: <br /><br />“And the Lord said: (It is) because they have forsaken My Law, which I set before them, and have not hearkened to My voice, nor walked by it. (Jer 9 12 )”<br /><br />"Law" means "works" while "hearkening" means "faith." The order of the two complaints of God seems to indicate that God would not mind not hearkening to His voice if people did not forsake His Law. Christians in general, and you in particular, harp on "being saved" as if that was the only important thing for a religious person. Why? <br /><br />Jews do not have faith and observe the commandments just to be saved. We do these things just because they are right; we do them for their own sake. The Talmud says:<br /><br />“Do not be as slaves, who serve their master for the sake of reward. Rather, be as slaves who serve their master not for the sake of reward. And the fear of Heaven should be upon you.”<br /><br />We love, fear and serve God -- we do “works” because we take pleasure in them and feel close to God; not just to be "saved," whatever that means. This is sufficient reward in itself without any other compensation. It is our relationship with God, while we are alive, that is paramount. "Works" are not an activity apart or remote from God. Rather every commandment serves to call us to His presence, before His countenance, in order to perform within His sight a service pleasing to Him. Every such "work" brings us closer to Him and should so enrich us with His approval that this realization of His nearness and approval makes us so happy that doing the "work," the service to God, is a reward in itself. It never occurs, to the religious Jew, to seek additional reward.<br /><br />Proverbs cites “fear of the Lord” as the beginning of wisdom and not faith. (Prov 1:7)<br /><br />When God commanded Moses to “speak to the rock” to bring forth water Moses struck the rock instead. God then told Moses that, because he did not have faith he would not bring the people into the land. (Num 20:7-12) The evidence for faith was works in this case.<br /><br />In Chap 2 Hosea quotes God as follows: “21 And I will betroth you to Me forever, and I will betroth you to Me with righteousness and with justice and with loving-kindness and with mercy. 22 And I will betroth you to Me with faith, and you shall know the Lord.” He mentions righteousness, justice loving-kindness and mercy before faith.<br /><br />>>Yeshua's Priesthood would be different than Aaron's <br /><br />Aaron was a priest of the tribe of Levi. If Jesus was of Judah (as was David) why do you call him a priest?<br /><br />>>Religion doesn't change anyone's nature. <br /><br />Speak for yourself, Joyce. Proverbs begins:<br /><br />Prov 1:1 The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel, [are]; 2 To know wisdom and discipline, to comprehend words of understanding; 3 To receive the discipline of wisdom, righteousness, justice, and equity; 4 To give prudence to the simple, knowledge and discretion to the youth. 5 Let the wise man hear and increase learning. The understanding man shall acquire wise counsels 6 to understand an allegory and a figure, the words of the wise and their riddles. 7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and discipline.<br /><br />Religion is man's efforts to reach God. In Yeshua we don't "convert to a religion". We have new birth, <br /><br />What wisdom and discipline do you obtain from your “new birth;” what learning, what change in your “nature?” According to you; none!<br /><br />>>Christian Churches have jumped to conclusions that I believe are wrong. These biases are centuries old and have become institutionalized. <br /><br />Notwithstanding the slight adjustments you make, you are part and parcel of those churches in spirit and basic mode of worship.<br /><br />>> Paul was writing letters.. He probably didn't think they would ever be interpreted in the way that they are. <br /><br />You don’t need to make excuses for him. Christians understand him perfectly.<br /><br />>>What do you think it means when God says, He will cleanse our iniquities and put His Torah on our minds. It's not US doing it. It's God. This is the renewed, or improved or better covenant that He made with Israel.. How is this accomplished? In Yeshua. Most people in churches are not taught this but Jer 31:31-33 is very clear and so are many other passages. <br /><br />I suggest you read “Redemption and the Power of Man.”<br /><br />Judaism and Christianity differ on man's moral capacity.<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/qwsosu<br /><br />LenLennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-46379872975859010562009-05-19T11:55:00.000-04:002009-05-19T11:55:00.000-04:005/19/2009
Joyce wrote: “Paul never said Israel ha...5/19/2009<br /><br />Joyce wrote: “Paul never said Israel had to be converted to Christianity. He said they had to accept Yeshua's atonement for their sins. You want to pay for your sins by your good works, when if you believed that Yeshua paid for yours, YOU WOULD ALREADY BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS.”<br /><br />The best way to respond to your blatantly and tranparently false assertion is to quote Maimonides example of failed repentance:<br /><br />Anyone who makes a verbal confession without resolving in his heart to abandon his sin is like one who takes a ritual bath while grasping a defiling object. The bath is useless unless he first casts the reptile away. (Mishneh Torah/Repentance 2:3)<br /><br />You have an obvious problem with identity. You refuse to acknowledge that Jews are synonymous with Israelites today, and you refuse to acknowledge that people who believe in Jesus are Christians even if they use Hebrew words.<br /><br />Joyce>>The righteousness that I have been given is because of the blood that was poured out by the Lamb of Pesach. <br /><br />The Paschal Lamb was forbidden to gentiles (Exod 13:43-49). Moreover, if you understood why a lamb was chosen you would not be so eager to identify Jesus with it as you and other missionaries are wont to do.<br /><br />It is exactly because the Egyptians worshipped sheep and did not eat them. Just as Christians worship the Lamb, the Egyptians similarly worshipped lambs. They also hated shepherds for similar reasons. It was Egyptian IDOLOTRY that led to their lamb worship.<br /><br />When Pharaoh gave Joseph permission to have his family come to Egypt, Joseph told his family that shepherds are abhorrent to Egyptians (Gen. 46:34). When Pharaoh asks what they do Joseph tells them to respond that they are "men of cattle." Breeders of cattle were not despised, as were shepherds. The implication to be given is that they were fallen cattlemen who, due to the famine, had been reduced to shepherding. Pharaoh would demand that they live in a remote province of Goshen, far from the native population.<br /><br />When Pharaoh told Moses he would let the Jews sacrifice to their God, but within Egypt, Moses replied: “It would not be right to do this, for what we sacrifice to the Lord our God is untouchable to the Egyptians. If we sacrifice what is untouchable to the Egyptians before their very eyes, will they not stone us? (Exod. 8:22)”<br /><br /> Rashi, the great exegete, wrote, "’for all shepherds are an abomination to the Egyptians‘ because they worshipped sheep.” This sets the stage for the events of the Exodus. <br /><br />The Lord decided to stick it to the Egyptians by singling out their lord for sacrifice. The principle was that, if Egyptians were going to commit idolatry by worshipping a lamb, then God's people will sacrifice these false gods and objects of idolatry; exactly opposing and denigrating the Egyptian belief system. It was self-assertion, on the part of the Israelites, and repudiation of their masters.<br /><br />When God tells Moses and Aaron to tell each family to draw out a lamb (Ex. 12:3), we interpret it metaphorically as drawing out from the Egyptian idolatrous environment. The Midrash/exegetic parable states: "So it was with Israel in Egypt that they were given to idolatry and did not forsake it, for it is written, 'But they did not every man cast away the abominations of their eyes. (Ezek. 20:7-8)’ Said the Holy One, blessed be He, to Moses: As long as the Israelites worship the Egyptian gods they shall not be redeemed. Go and tell them to forsake their evil ways and repudiate idolatry -- as it is written, 'Draw out and take you ---' that is to say, 'Withdraw your hands from idolatry and take you a lamb, and slaughter thereby the Egyptian Gods and make the Passover.’"<br /><br />LenLennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-58379913699938336562009-05-19T01:48:00.000-04:002009-05-19T01:48:00.000-04:00Len,
Okay, off the New Age and back to the Bible.....Len,<br />Okay, off the New Age and back to the Bible.. <br /><br />Paul never said Israel had to be converted to Christianity. He said they had to accept Yeshua's atonement for their sins. You want to pay for your sins by your good works, when if you believed that Yeshua paid for yours, YOU WOULD ALREADY BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS. <br /><br />The righteousness we have in Yeshua is His righteousness. Just as sin came into the world through one man, Yeshua paid for the sins of all, which is why when He was on the tree, He said "it is finished".. translated.. Sin and death are taken care of. He overcame them, through His death and resurrection. <br /><br />Now, if Yeshua paid in full for my violations of Torah, and now as a new creation with His identity, should I violate His Torah? Heavens no! <br /><br />The righteousness that I have been given is because of the blood that was poured out by the Lamb of Pesach. Just as when the angel of death passed over the houses of the Israelites in Egypt, none were killed, when I receive Yeshua's atonement for the price of my sins, I am not only declared just, but death has no hold. <br /><br />In Bereshit is says that God planted a garden in delight from before the very first. The garden He planted was in Himself. We were made in His image, but the fall created separation. That separation meant that mankind did not have God's righteousness.<br /><br />This concept of reflection is woven throughout the Torah. The mishkan reflects the throne room. We are made in God's image, and Yeshua is the fulness of deity in bodily form. <br /><br />Man was created in the image of God. He was created to be a reflection of His creator, but with the fall the image of man corruption entered in. Death, sickness, fear, insecurity, jealousy, all that enters when we are in a state of separation entered humanity. <br /><br />These things were so bad at one point God floods the earth and starts over with Noah's family and ultimately Abraham's. The idea was not just that we would "act right" because we had be fundamentally changed, corrupted by sin. Our very nature was different because we had eaten the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil. <br /><br />Legally speaking, the world was now under the control of the evil one, until such time as the kinsman redeemer would redeem a people for Himself. He chose Israel to be the nations of priests, through which not only would this redemption come visa via Messiah, but to teach all the other nations, so they too could know the truth. <br /><br />All Israel was lost. Judah had sinned and so did the House of Israel. The Northern kingdom was scattered and assimilated into pagan nations. Judah had lost its way. The leaders of the nation were divided corrupt, they were under Roman rule when Yeshua showed up on the scene. <br /><br />God did not permanently scatter Judah because they preserved Torah, and the Living Torah, Yeshua came through the line of Judah, even though Yeshua was born of the Ruach HaKodesh, not of the corrupt seed of man. He who appeared to Moses in the burning bush, the I will be what I will be came in the flesh to redeem us. <br /><br />The same God who redeemed us from the power of Pharaoh, and Eygpt, would redeem us from sin, the ultimate slave master. Why is that so difficult to understand? Only because of your upbringing, but it would be the first time Jews didn't understand God. If we listened in the first place we would have gone directly to the Promised Land from Egypt, don't stop at go and collect $200 dollars...but the fact is we blow it over and over and over and over again. If you were obeying Torah fully, shouldn't you be living in the Land, celebrating the 3 feasts there? Why do you still live in diaspora? ( I'm not criticizing you, just pointing out the truth is we don't always hear and obey) <br /><br /> We have sinned over and over and over. God is patient, long suffering, but He is not stupid. He knew we could not redeem ourselves. This is the good news, not that you have to stop being a Jew. That's just simply not true. <br /><br />Yeshua became the sacrifical Lamb, so that through His death the works of darkness could be destoryed, so that the kingdom of HaSatan would be legally redeemed and become the Kingdom of God, so that death, which is separation could be swallowed up one day, once and for all. <br /><br />Righteousness of Yeshua, we don't work for. We receive it by faith, just as Abraham did when He believed God's promises. The giving of Torah did not do away with God's promises to Abraham. It teaches us how to hit the mark, so we don't stop aiming at the mark, but I don't know anyone who lives out Torah perfectly because we can't. <br /><br />Our righteousness comes from Yeshua's perfect obedience to Torah and then His substitutionary atonement. Once our sins are removed, of course we should walk in conformity with the identity already given to us. <br /><br />Just because I'm forgiven, doesn't give me the right to keep sinning. That would be a mockery of God's free gift. Justification has ALWAYS been by faith, not by works. <br /><br />If you have the Apostles writings in your home, read Hebrews 11 and that will explain it well. Faith is what pleases God. If we have real faith, the works will follow, so that's what James means by "faith without works is dead". It's not that our works justify us, rather good works is a fruit of having faith. <br /><br />If I believe in Yeshua, I will try to obey His commands, and His commands are Torah, because He is the Living Torah, the Living Word, that came to dwell among us. <br /><br />Who could overcome HaSatan? Certainly not a human being. God's election of Israel was to bring forth Messiah, first for Israel and then for the nations. <br /><br />In Bereshit is says that the seed of the woman would crush the head of the serpent. The seed of the woman, the seed of Israel crushed the snake, the one that deceived the nations. <br /><br />God knew that all of our righteousness is like filthy rags, compared to His righteousness, so He redeemed us Himself. This is true love. <br /><br />Now because He did this for me, I have no problem obeying Him. I desire to walk in what He already credited to my account. Do I do it perfectly? No, but living sanctified lives is a life long process. My justification comes from Him, my sanctification comes from learning how to walk according to the Scriptures.. <br /><br />We learn that the High Priest can only go into the Mishkan or Temple once a year, and he has to go through a lot to do this. Why? Because there is this separation. Just as God placed cherubim with flaming swords over the entrance to the Garden, we see the cherubim over the ark and over the mercy seat. In the ark are the elements that point us to Yeshua, the manna ( the bread of life) the Tablets ( the Word) and the staff representing the Priesthood. <br /><br />Yeshua's Priesthood would be different than Aaron's because He would enter into the throne room of heaven, which the kiddush kiddushim was only a reflection of. His blood would cleanse the mercy seat at the very throne of God, making His sacrifice superior and good for all time. He only had to do this once in order to reverse what had be accomplished by the snake in the Garden. <br /><br />If obeying Torah perfectly, like Yeshua was possible for mere mortals, then we could achieve the holiness of Yeshua, but the problem is that we were born with our human nature, and in Him, we receive His nature. <br /><br />Religion doesn't change anyone's nature. Religion is man's efforts to reach God. In Yeshua we don't "convert to a religion". We have new birth, so if you are born a Jew, you are still a Jew, just a born-again Jew who now has his Messiah's righteousness. If you are born Greek, you stay Greek, but you have Messiah's righteousness and you can attach yourself to His people, Israel. <br /><br />This is a little long, but you ask good questions and I want to answer them thoroughly. Paul is greatly misunderstood, even Peter says this. <br /><br />He was addressing, in his letters, specific problems that existed in his day in specific assemblies or cities. Sometimes, without knowing the background of what was going on in a particular place, Christian Churches have jumped to conclusions that I believe are wrong. These biases are centuries old and have become institutionalized. <br /><br />Context is an important part of Scriptural interpretation, as you well know. We are often not given the context because Paul was writing letters.. He probably didn't think they would ever be interpreted in the way that they are. <br /><br />People have misunderstood expression like "judiazer" or "under the law" and this causes misinterpretation of whole large passages of text. <br /><br />Paul was addressing a lot of things that were taking place in the Second Temple environment, that were unique to that period. He was not hostile to Torah, by any means and did not want Jews to become something else. They were still meeting in synagogues unless they were kicked out. <br /><br />The very kicking out allowed the gospel to go to the nations where the Lost Sheep of the house of Israel were located, as well as to the nations themselves. God's scatter of the Northern Kingdom several hundred years before was no accident. God knows what He was doing. The Northern Kingdom was ALREADY divorced because of their adultery. How would He bring them back? Trust me, God always has a plan. Some rabbis can't decide whether they will come back or not, but that would make God a lier and He is not a lier. He promised to bring them back, but they would have to be justified. <br /><br />What do you think it means when God says, He will cleanse our iniquities and put His Torah on our minds. It's not US doing it. It's God. This is the renewed, or improved or better covenant that He made with Israel.. How is this accomplished? In Yeshua. Most people in churches are not taught this but Jer 31:31-33 is very clear and so are many other passages. <br /><br />This explains a bit of my position on your question, but I probably don't speak for everyone here. <br /><br />Shalom,<br />JoyceJoycenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-71840270378094608372009-05-14T18:15:00.000-04:002009-05-14T18:15:00.000-04:00JD,
Here is some more information on Jon Gordon t...JD,<br /><br />Here is some more information on Jon Gordon that I thought you might want to see.<br /><br />ERWIN MCMANUS: A SECRET BEHIND THE SECRET<br /><I>Jon Gordon is the author of a book called The 10-Minute Energy Solution. Ironically enough, Ray Yungen wrote about Gordon and his book in A Time of Departing. <B>He wrote about it to show further proof of Ken Blanchard's embracing of the New Age, for you see Blanchard had endorsed Gordon's book.</B> Listen to what Yungen said: <br /><br />In early 2006, a book hit the market called, The 10-Minute Energy Solution by Jon Gordon. The book is filled with suggestions on how to improve energy levels through meditation, yoga, breathing exercises, and other such techniques. Throughout the book, Gordon quotes favorably from the Dalai Lama, meditator Daniel Goleman, Thich Nhat Hanh, New Agers Marilyn Ferguson and Wayne Dyer, and from A Course in Miracles. Gordon promotes panentheism (God in all) by saying things such as: "You came from this source [speaking of God] and you are this source."<br /><br />Jon Gordon is as New Age as it gets. On Tuesday morning we read an article from Gordon's recent newsletter. The article is titled "The Secret Behind the Secret." In discussing the new film, The Secret, Gordon states: <br /><br />The law of attraction [what The Secret is based on] is important to share and it's a big part of my new book, "The Energy Bus," which tells the story of a man who uses the law of attraction to help turn around the negativity, fear, adversity, and challenges in his life. In understanding the law of attraction many are now realizing that they are involved in the creation of their lives; that their energetic thoughts, beliefs and actions have an impact on the world and in imprint on the energy fabric of the universe. <br /><br />You see, Gordon likes The Secret because he believes that God is in all creation. And The Secret teaches that God is in everyone; actually it teaches that we are God. Listen to The Secret: <br /><br />We are the creators not only of our own destiny but also of the Universe ... We are all connected, and we are all One (p. 175). <br /><br />No matter who you thought you were, now you know the Truth of Who You Really Are. You are the master of the Universe. You are the heir to the kingdom. You are the perfection of Life ( p. 183). <br /><br />You are God in a physical body ... You are all power ... You are all intelligence ... You are the creator ( p. 164).<br /><br />Few could deny, after hearing these statements that The Secret is pure occultism, especially when we realize that the author of the book is a disciple of "the teachings of Abraham," 1 which is a group of spirit guides (demons). But listen now to what Jon Gordon says next in his article. To him who has ears, let him hear: <br /><br />While having dinner the other night with Erwin McManus, author of "Soul Cravings" and a person who has had a profound impact on my life, we discussed The Secret and Erwin made a great point that we need to explain there is a secret behind The Secret. <br /><br />God gave us free will and the power to choose. In choosing to have faith and believing in a brighter and better future, cultivating a grateful and appreciative heart, and practicing forgiveness we open ourselves up to amazing possibilities. We become a vessel God can use to mold into the people we were born to be... who share the love we were meant to share. <br /><br />We are co-creators of our life with God. We are both creating and being created at the same time. The universe is not some magic genie that's says, "Your wish is my command," bringing you any car, house, or amount of money you desire. The Secret does not exist to satisfy your every wish but to help us become the kind of people God can use to make His ultimate wish come true - Heaven on Earth and inside each one of us. <br /><br />Erwin McManus resonates with The Secret and with Jon Gordon.</I>...read more....<br /><br />http://www.lighthousetrails<br />research.com/mcmanus<br />secret.htm<br />_________________________________<br /><br />In the "Yoga - cise" paragraphs below, one is reminded of THE GOLDEN COMPASS in which so-called "daemons" in animal form and of the opposite sex were attached to everyone beginning as children.<br />THE GOLDEN COMPASS<br />http://tinyurl.com/2v7kb2<br /><br /><br /><I>Addicted to New Age energy<br /><br />Jon Gordon is a New Ager, who openly promotes Yoga, Qigong, Tai Chi, meditation, and more on his website <br /><br />( http://tinyurl.com/24tx3j ). <br /><br />On page 8 of his article, "The Energy Addict's 7 Day Plan For Raising Healthy & Positive Kids," Gordon even promotes Yoga for children:<br /><br />Yoga-cise <br /><br /><B>Children’s yoga is becoming very popular and it is great to teach them at a young age. Many of the yoga postures are named after animals and this makes yoga fun for children.</B> You can either buy a children’s yoga video or look for a children’s yoga class in your city or town...... <br /><br />Gordon wrote the books Energy Addict: 101 Mental, Physical, & Spiritual Ways to Energize Your Life (September 2004), and The 10-Minute Energy Solution (December 2005), both of which were endorsed by Ken Blanchard<br /><br />(http://www.jongordon.com/<br />books.html ).<br /><br />And in Blanchard's latest endorsement of a Jon Gordon book, he leads the reader to get onboard "the right bus;" a bus fueled by New Age "positive energy": <br /><br />If you want to fuel your family, your career, your team, and your organization with spirit, read this book. Jon’s energy and advice will leap off the page and help you cultivate positive energy in everything you do—and you will make the world a better place for your having been here. Thanks, Jon, for pumping us up and making sure we get on the right bus. [The Energy Bus, January 2007,<br /><br />http://www.jongordon.com/<br />theenergybusbook.html <br /><br />In the Expanded 2nd Edition of his book, A Time of Departing, Christian author and apologist Ray Yungen has this to say about one of Jon Gordon's books and his spirituality: <br /><br />...in early 2006, a book hit the market called, The 10-Minute Energy Solution by Jon Gordon. The book is filled with suggestions on how to improve energy levels through meditation, yoga, breathing exercises, and other such techniques. Throughout the book, Gordon quotes favorably from the Dalai Lama, meditator Daniel Goleman, Thich Nhat Hanh, New Agers Marilyn Ferguson and Wayne Dyer, and from A Course in Miracles. Gordon promotes panentheism (God in all) by saying things such as: "You came from this source [speaking of God] and you are this source." [Lighthouse Trails Publishing, 2006, pp. 164-165]<br /><br />Gordon's panentheism is further illustrated in his August 1, 2005 The Energy Addict newsletter, where he attempts to reduce the Biblical Creator and Sustainer of the universe to a mere "source and force" or "whatever":<br /><br />The way I see it, God, the universe, intention, or whatever you wish to call the source and force from which everything emanates and gives everything life is really big and has a lot of energy-perhaps an infinite amount of energy. This energy makes the world go around. It moves our legs, lights up the stars and fuels every living creature on earth. With so much energy in the universe I often wonder why as energy beings many of us expect so little of ourselves and the world around us. As an Energy Addict we must tap our share of infinity. There is so much energy in the universe even if we tap a big share, there will still be plenty of energy for everyone else.</I>...read more....<br /><br />http://www.letusreason.org/Ecumen15.htm<br />_____________________________<br /><br />Friday, June 20, 2008<br /><br />JON GORDON, AUTHOR OF THE NO COMPLAINING RULE IN HIS OWN WORDS<br /><br /><I>“After college until about 32 I was drawn to new age writers, Buddhism and quantum physics. I always saw the world in terms of energy. I never liked organized religion and never went to church. Never felt at home there. I thought Jesus was a great teacher and messenger and enlightened being......<br /><br />.......“Then after a conversation I had with a Buddhist energy healer (not the usual way most people find Jesus) it all became clear to me and I walked out of his office committed to following Jesus. I was baptized on Palm Sunday, 2007. People think that only Christians can point you in the right direction but for me it was the fact that God used everyone in my life to show me the way. God brought me to my friend Daniel. He brought me to Erwin McManus. He brought me to Rob Bell. He brought me to the Buddhist energy healer. He brought me to Jesus. And now he is bringing me to those who are stuck and need God more than ever.”</I>http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/2008/s08060135.htm<br /><br />______________________________<br /><br />While Jon Gordon doesn't appear (so far) to have any direct ties to the Institute of Noetic Sciences, Ken Blanchard, who has promoted his books, does appear to have such ties.<br /><br />THOUGHT LEADER GATHERINGS<br /><br />The Twin Cities Thought Leader Gatherings have included individuals from the following organizations:<br /><br />(Among those included are individuals from the Institute of Noetic Sciences and The Ken Blanchard Companies. Click onto link below.)<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/oc25v6 <br />___________________________<br /><br />DISCOVER AND MANIFEST YOUR ULTIMATE DESTINY SYMPOSIUM<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/qgsnzy <br /><br />____________________________<br /><br />BOTH Ken Blanchard and Institute of Noetic Sciences co-founder (along with Paul Temple) Edgar Mitchell are "graduates" of the so-called "Hoffman Process."<br /><br /><br />KEN BLANCHARD AND THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT<br /><br />".....The list of Hoffman Process graduates is impressive and sometimes surprising. It includes the likes of international management guru Ken Blanchard and Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell. It contains an abundance of psychiatrists (like TM doyen and author Harold Bloomfield) as well as professors of psychiatry" (ibid., emp. mine)...read entire article.......<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/ptrhht <br />__________________________________<br /><br />KEN BLANCHARD AND THE HOFFMAN QUADRINITY PROCESS<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/r4hxdj<br />________________________________<br /><br />Check out page 54 at the following "noetic.org " link<br /><br />http://www.noetic.org/<br />research/files/Bleep_Study_<br />Guide.pdf<br />________________________________<br /><br />Here are some related links where "new labels" for "old errors" are listed.<br /><br /> ENERGY MEDICINE<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_medicine<br />_____________________________<br /><br /><br />LIST OF BRANCHES OF ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/pyyn5p<br />_______________________________<br /><br />JON GORDON'S ENERGY TIP: THE SCIENTIFIC BENEFITS OF PRAYER<br /><br />http://www.jongordon.com/<br />012306TheScientificBenefitsofPrayer.htmSusannanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-59358247674918070042009-05-14T15:59:00.000-04:002009-05-14T15:59:00.000-04:00JD,
Can't they just get energy like the rest of u...JD,<br /><br />Can't they just get energy like the rest of us...a cup of coffee! Having been in similar work situations myself, I can honestly say, none of those techniques build teamwork. I had to endure "Healing Racism" once. All these techniques do is spread New Age ideals and make someone a ton of money.DavidinB.C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-65393927244722253192009-05-14T15:05:00.000-04:002009-05-14T15:05:00.000-04:00Prayerful,
Thank you for your kind words.
Susann...Prayerful,<br /><br />Thank you for your kind words.<br /><br />SusannaSusannanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-52255924064439764492009-05-14T08:39:00.000-04:002009-05-14T08:39:00.000-04:00prayerful,
Thank you, if the situation arises,...prayerful,<br /><br /> Thank you, if the situation arises, its good to know of people in this field. I live in Michigan, so I am almost certain that between you and Constance I wouldn't have a problem finding an attorney. LOLBleedin Red White and Blue Baby!https://www.blogger.com/profile/06867605129975323481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-15541236065181118402009-05-14T08:30:00.000-04:002009-05-14T08:30:00.000-04:00JD
Matt Staver's Liberty Counsel org.
is an except...JD<br />Matt Staver's Liberty Counsel org.<br />is an exceptional resource if a legal issue occurs.<br /><br />Liberty Counsel has offices in Florida, Virginia and Washington, D.C., and we also have attorneys who practice in courts all across the nation. We provide assistance in cases that advance religious freedom, the sanctity of human life and the traditional family. Click here to send a donation. <br /><br />Mailing Address: PO Box 540774, Orlando, FL 32854. Telephone: 800-671-1776. Email: Liberty@LC.org <br /><br />IMPORTANT: If you need assistance with a situation involving religious freedom, the sanctity of life or traditional family values, call our office. Do not rely on email, because your request may not reach us due to technical reasons. Include your phone number in case we have difficulty reaching you via email. We always try to answer every request personally. We respect your privacy and will not share your contact information with any other organization. <br /><br />Susanna your awesome!<br /><br />prayerfulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-29333126657405646432009-05-14T03:27:00.000-04:002009-05-14T03:27:00.000-04:005/14/2009
Joyce wrote: "We cannot pick and chose ...5/14/2009<br /><br />Joyce wrote: "We cannot pick and chose from the Bible and accept some passages and reject others. Replacement theology has done this and rejected God's eternal promises to Israel"<br /><br />Dear Joyce and Sarah,<br /><br />I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth. You say so many nice things about Israel and God's promise to it that I am tempted to leave well ennough alone. <br /><br />Since Joyce and Sarah invoke Rom. 11 as evidence against replacement theology I must call attention to the fact that Paul set forth his own style of replacement theology there and elsewhere by giving with one hand and taking away with the other. <br /><br />What is it, if not replacement theology, to infer as Paul does in Vs. 11:6-11, that the righteous "remnant" of Jews is that set of them, "chosen by grace --- nothing to do with good deeds" who have "seen the truth" about Jesus? that the righ accuse Jewish Jews of "unbelief" as Paul does in Rom. 11:23?<br /><br />What is it, if not replacement theology, to say about the remnant of Jewish Jews, as Paul does in Vs. 11:12, that the world "would benefit from the conversion of them all?"<br /><br />What is it, if not replacement theology, to accuse the remnant of Jewish Jews of "unbelief" as Paul does in Vs. 11:23, and "disobedience" as he does in Vs. 11:31 because we do not buy the "good news," and to say, as he does in Vs. 10:33, that "only thoose who believe in [Jesus] will have no cause for shame?<br /><br />What is it, if not replacement theology, to say as Paul does in Vs. 10:9-13, that only those Jews who believe in Jesus will be saved and that "Scripture makes no distinction between Jew and Greek" only when both the Jew and Greek "call on the name of [Jesus]?"<br /><br />Contrast all this with the truly universal Tanakh which says that "God is near to *ALL* who call Him" (Psalm 145:18) You do not have to be Jewish to be saved; just righteous. That includes Christians who do not try to convert Jews by deception.<br /><br /><br />James himself contradicted Paul on the importance of deeds when he wrote, in Chap. 2:<br /><br />14: What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? <br />15: If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, <br />16: And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? <br />17: Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. <br />18: Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. <br />19: Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. <br />20: But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? <br />21: Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? <br />22: Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? <br /><br />That is why the Talmud says:<br /><br />1. “The righteous of ALL nations have a share in the world to come.” You don’t have to be Jewish to be righteous.<br /><br />2. “A Gentile who occupies himself with Torah is equal to the high (Jewish) priest.”<br /><br />3. “I call heaven and earth as witnesses: whether a person be Jew or Gentile, man or woman, man servant or maid servant, according to their DEEDS does the holy Spirit dwell upon them.”<br /><br />Peace and blessing,<br />LenLennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-70780039394581757122009-05-14T00:42:00.000-04:002009-05-14T00:42:00.000-04:00P.S.
JD
As you know, I am Catholic.
The Cathol...P.S. <br /><br />JD<br /><br />As you know, I am Catholic.<br /><br />The Catholic Church has recently come out against Reiki being offered in Catholic hospitals.<br /><br />http://www.catholicculture.org/<br />news/headlines/index.<br />cfm?storyid=2429<br />______________________________<br /><br />I made a few comments about this on a couple of previous blogs to the effect that phenomena such as Reiki and "Animal Magnetism" which was popular in the 18th and 19th centuries are collectively regarded as "<B>energy therapies."</B>http://tinyurl.com/2nrt4e<br /><br />It would appear that "Animal Magnetism is being referred to nowadays as "electrobiology."<br /><br />http://www.bartleby.com/81/5705.htmlSusannanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-52654551365120230962009-05-14T00:23:00.000-04:002009-05-14T00:23:00.000-04:00JD,
I am so very happy to have been able to help ...JD,<br /><br />I am so very happy to have been able to help you out.<br /><br />In addition to what I have already said, I have to say that if this looks like something that is going to involve your wife being threatened with the loss of her job as a result of her refusal to participate in what amounts to a RELIGIOUS program disguised as something else, you might want to quietly consult a lawyer who specializes in this sort of thing NOW in order to find out what you can do in the event of such a thing coming to pass.Susannanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-53767972360146355162009-05-14T00:19:00.000-04:002009-05-14T00:19:00.000-04:00Update from yesterdeay's NY Times
5/14/2009
May 1...Update from yesterdeay's NY Times<br />5/14/2009<br /><br />May 13, 2009<br />Mideast’s Christians Declining in Influence <br />By ETHAN BRONNER<br />NY Times<br /><br />JERUSALEM — Christians used to be a vital force in the Middle East. They dominated Lebanon and filled top jobs in the Palestinian movement. In Egypt, they were wealthy beyond their number. In Iraq, they packed the universities and professions. Across the region, their orientation was a vital link to the West, a counterpoint to prevailing trends. <br /><br />But as Pope Benedict XVI wends his way across the Holy Land this week, he is addressing a dwindling and threatened Christian population driven to emigration by political violence, lack of economic opportunity and the rise of radical Islam. A region that a century ago was 20 percent Christian is about 5 percent today and dropping.<br /><br />Continued:<br />http://tinyurl.com/o2y4a7Lennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-74142789143738604442009-05-14T00:11:00.000-04:002009-05-14T00:11:00.000-04:005/14/2009
This paper is five years old but, if an...5/14/2009<br /><br />This paper is five years old but, if anything, thhings have gotten worse for Christians since then.<br /><br />The Beleaguered Christians of the Palestinian Authority<br />By David Raab<br />Jewish Viewpoints | March 16, 2004<br /><br />The Christian community in the areas administered by the Palestinian Authority (PA) is a small but symbolically important one. About 35,000 Christians live in the West Bank and 3,000 in Gaza,1 representing about 1.3 percent of Palestinians. In addition, 12,500 Christians reside in eastern Jerusalem. <br /><br />This population is rapidly dwindling, however, and not solely as a result of the difficult military and economic situation of the past two years. Rather, there are numerous indications that the Christian population is beleaguered due to its Christianity. Taken in context of the condition of Christians in other Middle Eastern countries, this picture is especially credible and troubling. <br /><br />A Second-Class People<br /><br />Under Islam, Christians are considered dhimmi, a tolerated but second class who are afforded protection by Islam. Dhimmitude is integral to Islam; it is a "protection pact" that suspends "the [Muslim] conqueror's initial right to kill or enslave [Jews and Christians], provided they submitted themselves to pay tribute."2<br /><br />However, the reality of Christianity under Islam has often been difficult. "Over the centuries, political Islam has not been too kind to the native Christian communities living under its rule. Anecdotes of tolerance aside, the systematic treatment of Christians...is abusive and discriminatory by any standard....Under Islam, the targeted dhimmi community and each individual in it are made to live in a state of perpetual humiliation in the eyes of the ruling community."3 As described by a Christian Lebanese president, Bashir Gemayil: "a Christian...is not a full citizen and cannot exercise political rights in any of the countries which were once conquered by Islam."4<br /><br />Continued:<br />http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp490.htmLennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-78103859627210169142009-05-14T00:02:00.000-04:002009-05-14T00:02:00.000-04:00NEWS ANALYSIS
Pope in Bethlehem: A missed opportun...NEWS ANALYSIS<br />Pope in Bethlehem: A missed opportunity<br /><br />Pope overlooked murder, persecution of Christians<br /><br />Posted: May 13, 2009<br />2:34 pm Eastern<br /><br />By Aaron Klein<br />© 2009 WorldNetDaily<br /> <br />During Pope Benedict XVI's visit to Bethlehem today, the pontiff did not address rampant Muslim persecution of Christians and stood by as Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas lied about the real reason behind local Christians fleeing. <br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/oh8lllLennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-10911592294005005942009-05-13T22:56:00.000-04:002009-05-13T22:56:00.000-04:005/13/2009
History Maker wrote:”--- we talked abo...5/13/2009<br /><br />History Maker wrote:”--- we talked about the sacrifice of the goat for the sins of the people and verses 20-22 "When Aaron has finished making atonement for the Most Holy Place, the Tent of Meeting and the altar, he shall bring forward the live goat. He is to lay both hands on the head of the live goat and confess over it all the wickedness and rebellion of the Israelites—all their sins—and put them on the goat's head. He shall send the goat away into the desert in the care of a man appointed for the task. The goat will carry on itself all their sins to a solitary place; and the man shall release it in the desert." Yes, we must repent, as Aaron did when he confessed the sins of the people over the second goat. It's also clear to me that Jesus took the place of both goats- the one sacrificed and the one who carries away sins."<br /><br />Dear HM,<br /><br />You are describing more or less accurately the procedure on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, when the Temple was extant. But that ritual was symbolic. It showed the congregation that they can free themselves from the burden of past sins. It is we who deserve to be sent to our deaths and would be but for God’s infinite grace. <br /><br />The two identical goats demonstrate that each of us must choose between good and evil with no room between, If one doesn’t choose to move towards holiness he moves towards the wasteland of spiritual death.<br /><br />With all due respect, however, what is clear to you is not clear to Jews. When the Temple is returned to us we will again perform the two-goat ritual. What we do today instead is to cast our sins, in the form of bread crumbs, into living water on Rosh Hashana, the beginning of the ten days of repentance that end on Yom Kippur. This is in tune with Micah 7:18-19:<br /><br />“18 Who is a God like You, Who forgives iniquity and passes over the transgression of the remnant of His heritage? He does not maintain His anger forever, for He desires loving-kindness. 19 He shall return and grant us compassion; He shall hide our iniquities, and You shall cast into the depths of the sea all their sins.”<br /><br />It would be appropriate to tell your son that God’s ability to forgive did not end with the Temple’s destruction and the end of sacrifice. The prophets knew this when they wrote:<br /><br />Samuel said, “Has The Lord as much desire in burnt offerings and peace offerings, as in obeying the voice of The Lord? Behold, to obey is better than the fat of rams. (1 Sam. 15:22)”<br /><br />"For the Israelites shall go a long time without king and without officials and without sacrifice and without cult pillars and without ephod and teraphim. Afterward, the Israelites will turn back and will seek The Lord their God and David their king -- and they will thrill over The Lord and His bounty in the days to come. (Hosea 3:4-5)<br /><br />"For I desire loving-kindness, not sacrifices, and knowledge of God more than burnt offerings. (Hos. 6.6)”<br /><br />"Take words with you and return to the Lord. Say to Him: 'Forgive all guilt and accept what is good. Instead of bulls, we will pay [the offering of] our lips (prayer and repentance)." (Hosea 14:2,3)<br /><br /><br />"With what shall I come before The Lord...? Shall I come before Him with burnt offerings and yearling calves? Will The Lord be pleased with thousands of rams...? He has told you, O man, what is good and what The Lord demands of you: but to do justice, love loving-kindness, and to walk discretely with your God. (Mica 6:6-8)”<br /><br />"So said The Lord of Hosts, the God of Israel: Mend your ways and your deeds and I will let you dwell in this place. Don't put your trust in illusions and say, ‘The Temple of The Lord, The Temple of The Lord are these [buildings].’ No, if you really mend your ways and your deeds... if you do not follow other Gods, to your own hurt -- then only will I let you live here, in the land I gave your fathers for all time. See, you are relying on illusions that are to no avail. Will you steal and swear falsely, and sacrifice to Baal and follow other Gods whom you have not experienced, and then come before Me in this house that bears My Name and say, 'We are safe?' -- As for Me, I have been watching -- declares The Lord.<br /><br /> So said The Lord of Hosts, the God of Israel: Add your burnt offerings upon your sacrifices and eat the meat. For neither did I speak with your forefathers nor did I cammand them, on the day I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning a burnt offering or a sacrifice. But *this* thing did I command them saying: Do My bidding so that I may be The Lord your God and you may be My people; walk only in all the ways that I command you. (Jer. 7:3-11,21-23<br /><br />"Performing charity and justice is preferred by God to a sacrifice. (Ps. 21:3)<br /><br />"Rescue me from blood guilt - O God of my salvation. The Lord, open my lips so my mouth may declare Your praise. For You desire no offering, else I would give it; a burnt offering You do not favor. The offerings of God are a broken spirit. God, You will not despise a broken and crushed heart. (Ps. 51:16-19)<br /><br />Without the goats what do we do on Yom Kippur? We follow the Bible which says we can sacrifice only in the Temple. But it also says:<br /><br />Lev 16: 29 And [all this] shall be as an eternal statute for you; in the seventh month, on the tenth of the month, you shall afflict yourselves, and you shall not do any work neither the native nor the stranger who dwells among you. 30 For on this day [God] shall effect atonement for you to cleanse you. Before the Lord, you shall be cleansed from all your sins. 31 It is a Sabbath of rest for you, and you shall afflict yourselves. It is an eternal statute. 32 And the Kohen (priest) who is anointed or who is invested to serve in his father's stead, shall effect [this] atonement, --- 33 upon the kohanim (priests) and upon all the people of the congregation. 34 [All] this shall be as an eternal statute for you, to effect atonement upon the children of Israel, for all their sins, once each year.<br /><br />We afflict ourselves by fasting for 25 hours and spending about 16 hours in the synagogue, on the evening before and the following day, saying virtually all the prayers and Bible readings in a 400 page prayer book including congregational multiple confessions of sins.<br /><br />Tradition says that the ten days determine who shall live and who shall die. on Rosh Hashana our sentence is inscribed in “the Lord’s book” and at the end of Yom Kippur it is sealed. But prayer, repentance and charity averts the bad decree. This concept is dramatized in the following beautifully scripted YouTube dramatization of this concept entitled “Who Shall Live.”<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/cxtza6<br /><br />Peace and blessing,<br />LenLennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-6619947038899194662009-05-13T22:54:00.000-04:002009-05-13T22:54:00.000-04:00Susanna,
Once again I owe you my thanks. Her bo...Susanna,<br /><br /> Once again I owe you my thanks. Her boss seems to be skirting the religous side of it at the moment, however if it gets too deep I will make sure she knows how to push back properly. I have had concerns with the organization for which she works on a whole, she works in the health care industry, and while she strictly deals in office management and medical billing, the company she works for offers reiki therapy to some of their patients.<br /><br /> I know the industry as a whole is sliding down this slippery slope, and have repeatedly warned her of my concerns. Thankfully our relationship is built on trust for one another, and this includes the others judgement. However, I was still releived when she told me of this as I knew she was listening to what I was warning her about.<br /><br />If you or anyone else happen to find anything else(even though this is more than enough to confirm my suspicions) please let me know.Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby!https://www.blogger.com/profile/06867605129975323481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-57267673638082543922009-05-13T22:40:00.000-04:002009-05-13T22:40:00.000-04:00ELECTRONIC POLICE STATE 2008
URL to article: http...ELECTRONIC POLICE STATE 2008<br /><br />URL to article: http://www.infowars.com/electronic-police-state-2008/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-52126718244052361612009-05-13T21:30:00.000-04:002009-05-13T21:30:00.000-04:00P.S.
JD
If there is any "religious" content in ...P.S. <br /><br />JD<br /><br />If there is any "religious" content in Jon Gordon's works, your wife's boss may be violating her civil rights if involvement with ENERGY BUS is proposed as a requirement and/or a condition of continued employment.<br /><br />Shenanigans like this were perpetrated in the Federal Aviation Administration back in the 1980's and 1990's vis a vis the Gregory May stress management/sensitivity training fiasco. <br /><br />It was found that Gregory May was a disciple of J.Z. Knight and that his seminars were inspired in part by a 35,000-year-old spirit named "Ramtha" who was channeled through Knight.<br /><br />Gregory May wound up spending some time in the slammer over this scam.<br /><br />OUTRAGEOUS BETRAYAL<br /><br />http://www.rickross.com/reference/est/est27.html<br />___________________________<br /><br />THE GURU AND THE FAA<br /><br />http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-16642039.html<br />______________________________<br /><br />U.S. OFFERED UNUSUAL CLASS ON DIVERSITY<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/<br />1995/04/02/us/us-offered-<br />unusual-class-on-diversity.htmlSusannanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-59867136031217196072009-05-13T21:14:00.000-04:002009-05-13T21:14:00.000-04:00JD,
You might want to check this out for starters...JD,<br /><br />You might want to check this out for starters.<br /><br />It is a preview of Gordon's book THE ENERGY BUS<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/q9hczu<br />____________________________<br /><br />Here is a preview of Gordon's book <br />ENERGY ADDICT<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/pj47wp<br /><br /><br />Chapter 29 in ENERGY ADDICT is entitled ENERGIZE WITH YOGA!!!<br /><br />Chapter 56 in ENERGY ADDICT is entitled TAP INTO THE ENERGY OF NOW and it reads:<br /><br /><I>"Spiritual teacher <B>Eckhart Tolle</B>, author of one of my favorite books THE POWER OF NOW, teaches that people are happiest when they live in the "now." He explains that only when we free ourselves from our minds and constant thoughts are we able to experience the power of the present moment. He teaches that our energy is greatest in the now....</I>..read more.....<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/orrwdl<br /><br />It looks to me like Jon Gordon is an advocate of Eckhart Tolle's views. Also of Yoga. <br /><br />You may want to check into this further. <br /><br />In the meantime, I hope you find this information helpful.Susannanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-86359770859781526932009-05-13T21:07:00.000-04:002009-05-13T21:07:00.000-04:00Len,
No offense intended, but my quoting of Roman...Len,<br /><br />No offense intended, but my quoting of Romans deals strictly with my agreement with Joyce that replacement theology is not a teaching of the Scriptures, as Romans 11 points out so eloquently.<br /><br />I have no desire nor the energy to get into more discussion, as you took off on a tangent. I hold to the above scriptures referred to.<br /><br />take care,<br />sarahsarahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-30796972394591511972009-05-13T19:32:00.000-04:002009-05-13T19:32:00.000-04:00All,
I need some help, my wife, recently came ...All,<br /><br /> I need some help, my wife, recently came home and told me her boss was starting an enrgy bus. When I questioned what this meant, she told me it involved positive reinforcement, positive thinking, team building, etc. She came home today informing me this was based on an author by the name of Jon Gordon. A small peek at his website brings up most of the obvious red flags, however I am not familiar with his work itself. <br /><br /> She is not as familiar with some of the typical things that are intwined in these type of motivational speakers, however from the small amount she has been exposed to, she is already uncomfortable. Her boss states to be a believing christian, yet seems to have fallen into the same trap many are. If any one knows directly about this man or his work I would appreciate help. I want to be able to help arm her with enough info, so that not only can she avoid this pitfall, but would also like her to be able to show her boss the problem with what is being taught here.Bleedin Red White and Blue Baby!https://www.blogger.com/profile/06867605129975323481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-35236259315028423142009-05-13T17:53:00.000-04:002009-05-13T17:53:00.000-04:00Hi, Len. I was talking to my son just this mornin...Hi, Len. I was talking to my son just this morning about Leviticus 16, and was reminded of our discussion as I read your comment about the mistranslation of Isaiah 59:20. Specifically, we talked about the sacrifice of the goat for the sins of the people and verses 20-22 "When Aaron has finished making atonement for the Most Holy Place, the Tent of Meeting and the altar, he shall bring forward the live goat. He is to lay both hands on the head of the live goat and confess over it all the wickedness and rebellion of the Israelites—all their sins—and put them on the goat's head. He shall send the goat away into the desert in the care of a man appointed for the task. The goat will carry on itself all their sins to a solitary place; and the man shall release it in the desert."<br /><br />Yes, we must repent, as Aaron did when he confessed the sins of the people over the second goat. It's also clear to me that Jesus took the place of both goats- the one sacrificed and the one who carries away sins. (Also see Hebrews 9.)<br /><br />Sincerely,<br />~HMHistory Makerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353198203884045830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-71781464096610255382009-05-13T17:48:00.000-04:002009-05-13T17:48:00.000-04:00Hmmmm, lets see - old testimant - verses new testi...Hmmmm, lets see - old testimant - verses new testiment - no miss transaltion - just lack of being able to flex your neck and see without having to turn on lights.<br /><br />Some would call it blatant christian bashing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-80480522715772979542009-05-13T17:41:00.000-04:002009-05-13T17:41:00.000-04:00Dear Len 3:42
Thank you, Len and BRAVO! Your com...Dear Len 3:42<br /><br />Thank you, Len and BRAVO! Your comments and articles are spot on! <br /><br />Anyone who knows me knows that I would be (in fact I am) the first one to drop the hammer on ANY Roman Catholic peddling anti-Semitism, and I wouldn't care if it were a priest, bishop, Cardinal or even a Pope!<br /><br />In fact, I have already mentioned the pro-Nazi Bishop Alois Hudal who was reportedly involved in helping Nazis to escape vis a vis the "ratlines" after World War II.<br /><br />Even before the War, Hudal had run afoul of the Vatican by proposing a "truly Christian National Socialism" in his booklet on the basic foundations of National Socialism. <br /><br />In this booklet, Hudal openly questioned the Vatican policy of Pope Pius XI and Eugenio Pacelli towards National Socialism, which culminated in the same year in the encyclical Mit brennender Sorge, in which the Vatican openly attacked National Socialism. THIS was the encyclical that the French made copies of and dropped over Germany in 1937.<br /><br />When all was said and done, however, Hudal represented only a small minority of Catholic clergymen who had wandered off the Catholic reservation and onto Nazi turf. <br /><br />Ultimately, Nazism is PAGAN! If Nazism succeeded at times in appearing to be "Christian," this is because it had begun to infiltrate Christianity - BOTH Catholic and Protestant - and was tricking out its pagan beliefs in "Christian" wraps - just as gnostics and Manichaean/Cathars did in the past - just as the neo-Nazis are doing today.<br /><br />By the way, I posted the following article a few months ago, but I think it is worth posting it again.<br /><br />The article explains the <B>TRUE</B> origins of the Hitler's Pope Myth.<br /><br />Here is the article from the National Review Online that I posted a few months ago.<br />__________________<br /><br />January 25, 2007<br /><br />MOSCOW'S ASSAULT ON THE VATICAN<br /><br />The KGB made corrupting the Church a priority<br /><br /><I>BATTLING THE CHURCH<br /><br />In February 1960, Nikita Khrushchev approved a super-secret plan for destroying the Vatican’s moral authority in Western Europe. The idea was the brainchild of KGB chairman Aleksandr Shelepin and Aleksey Kirichenko, the Soviet Politburo member responsible for international policies. Up until that time, the KGB had fought its “mortal enemy” in Eastern Europe, where the Holy See had been crudely attacked as a cesspool of espionage in the pay of American imperialism, and its representatives had been summarily jailed as spies. Now Moscow wanted the Vatican discredited by its own priests, on its home territory, as a bastion of Nazism. <br /><br />Eugenio Pacelli, by then Pope Pius XII, was selected as the KGB’s main target, its incarnation of evil, because he had departed this world in 1958. “Dead men cannot defend themselves” was the KGB’s latest slogan. Moscow had just gotten a black eye for framing and imprisoning a living Vatican prelate, József Cardinal Mindszenty, the primate of Hungary, in 1948. During the 1956 Hungarian Revolution he had escaped from jail and found asylum in the U.S. Embassy in Budapest, where he began writing his memoirs. As the details of how he had been framed became known to Western journalists, he was widely seen as a saintly hero and martyr. <br /><br />Because Pius XII had served as the papal nuncio in Munich and Berlin when the Nazis were beginning their bid for power, the KGB wanted to depict him as an anti-Semite who had encouraged Hitler’s Holocaust. The hitch was that the operation was not to give the least hint of Soviet bloc involvement. The whole dirty job had to be carried out by Western hands, using evidence from the Vatican itself. That would correct another mistake made in the case of Mindszenty, who had been framed with counterfeit Soviet and Hungarian documents. (On February 6, 1949, just days before Mindszenty’s trial ended, Hanna Sulner, the Hungarian handwriting expert who had fabricated the “evidence” used to frame the cardinal, escaped to Vienna and displayed microfilms of the “documents” on which the show trial was founded. Hanna demonstrated, in an excruciatingly detailed testimony, that all were forged documents, “some ostensibly in the cardinal’s hand, others bearing his supposed signature,” produced by her.)..</I> read entire article...<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/q2pu6n<br />_____________________________<br /><br /><br />THE MYTH OF HITLER'S POPE: AN INTERVIEW WITH RABBI DAVID G. DALIN <br /><br />http://catholicexchange.com/2005/07/29/94098/<br />________________________________<br /><br />Again, Len, many thanks.<br /><br />Peace and Blessings,<br /><br />SusannaSusannanoreply@blogger.com