tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post7802524538734573103..comments2024-03-19T03:41:13.457-04:00Comments on My perspective -- What Constance thinks: The New Age Movement from 1982 to 2012: A 30 year religious war?Constance Cumbeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comBlogger122125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-4719841663879705662012-05-01T14:40:11.672-04:002012-05-01T14:40:11.672-04:00AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
The p...AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.<br /><br />The previous discussion shifted from seeking information to critiqueing what may lie behind refusal to try to get information. I think I have said enough for everyone reading to chew on.<br /><br />Meanwhile, run this one past your New Age and so forth friends, relatives and acquaintances, it might make them think twice.<br /><br /> http://www.scribd.com/doc/15598452/Eighteen-New-Age-Lies-An-Occult-Attack-on-Christianity <br /><br />or as I describe this on my blog, your chakras, target of New Age deception.<br /><br />http://politicallyunclassifiable.blogspot.com/2012/04/your-chakras-target-of-new-age.htmlChristine Erikson (aka Justina)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11594093718714798117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-26420748540770034272012-05-01T14:36:35.447-04:002012-05-01T14:36:35.447-04:00"It is nice to know that someone here can be ..."It is nice to know that someone here can be judge and jury of what my real intent was."<br /><br />Intent can be deduced from actions and words, any lawyer with court experience can tell you that, especially if they form patterns, and result in a picture from which future behavior can be predicted and it happens. So far you are acting in pattern and predictably. Gentlemen don't check on each other? Perhaps that is the unexamined premise?<br /><br />hah!Christine Erikson (aka Justina)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11594093718714798117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-61654628662374577112012-05-01T14:32:14.903-04:002012-05-01T14:32:14.903-04:00A good con can and has gotten affiliated with some...A good con can and has gotten affiliated with something, because he has talent and capability in the field even if not credentialed, when a routine check would turn up some other information. As I said, it would take you less effort to make the inquiry of the records dept. than to argue about it. A diploma on a wall is best supported by a record of it at the supposed source.<br /><br />PROBABLY HE IS LEGIT, but at the very least what I see here is a rejection of a normal procedure that is such an intense rejection as to make me wonder what clouding is going on in your minds and hearts (the deep part of the mind not just feelings though it can produce feelings). <br /><br />Really, I think if you are going to research any subject you ought to be prepared to make inquiries, check sources and check persons. <br /><br />And that is normal professional and scholarly behavior.<br /><br />I don't care what his opinions are, I don't care if he is in their records or not, I don't care what his expertise is, physics or cooking or art or whatever, I don't care if he is half martian on psych meds half the time from a genetic misfire of a miscalculated hybridization. <br /><br />What I care about, is that when a question is asked, in a way that does not risk compromising his security, asking another to do the asking, the reaction is so negative.<br /><br />YOU may have a lack of necessity, regarding him as an individual. But you DON'T have a lack of necessity to have good habits on stuff like this, and I do not have a lack of necessity since I can't run through all their publications and to keep his security safe you can't point me to any batch of them.<br /><br />My whole attitude and personal background has been of necessity to develop an investigator's mindset. Never licensed as a private investigator, never tried to be, but this kind of reaction I am getting is a red flag about something wrong, either with him, with the clicque, or with the burgeoning culture or some psychological thing.Christine Erikson (aka Justina)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11594093718714798117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-65583599665574306642012-05-01T11:52:47.204-04:002012-05-01T11:52:47.204-04:00Christine,
It is nice to know that someone here ...Christine,<br /><br /> It is nice to know that someone here can be judge and jury of what my real intent was.<br /><br /> As for the rest of your claims, yes there are con men, but as Physicist pointed out, I can take Cambridge's acknowledgement of a affiliation with him as verification. This is what I have been saying all along, Cambridge has publicly acknowledged him, so what use is calling them or emailing. It's not a matter of refusal, it's a lack of necessity.<br /><br />Maybe I haven't been concise enough, maybe it doesn't matter to you.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04920090468134075271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-40077450211861183172012-05-01T11:19:57.789-04:002012-05-01T11:19:57.789-04:00Christine,
There are better things to discuss at ...Christine,<br /><br />There are better things to discuss at this blog than my credentials. But it seems to me that you interpret my reluctance to say more about myself, or to give my blessing to say more to those here who know me, as implying that I have something to hide. There will be people reading a blog attacking the New Age from whom I prefer to conceal personal details.<br /><br />I never used my status as a PhD in physics to *shortcut* a scientific argument, by saying for example "I am not going to fill in the gaps in this argument - trust me". I explained my status simply so that anyone who *chose* to trust me could skim over the science if they wished. You, I was seeking to educate in some of the physics relating to what you have been saying.<br /><br />Why are you so keen to check me out in this way; and why do you not regard as sufficient Susanna's witness that my name appears with a Cambridge affiliation on the first page of a scientific paper published in a prominent journal? I don't run a cult (whatever you might think), but you could not determine that from my doctoral status anyway. And, given some of the over-stringent data protection laws in my country nowadays, I doubt that Cambridge would even confirm my identity over the phone to myself.<br /><br />PhysicistAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-87314445563517080752012-05-01T10:40:08.817-04:002012-05-01T10:40:08.817-04:00Physicist, I don't care what your name is, I h...Physicist, I don't care what your name is, I have made that clear. I have not asked for your name, only for someone who DOES know your name to ask Cambridge's records office if you have the degree from them you claim.<br /><br />A name means nothing. A mere handle like Infowolf says more about me than my legal name. A name that appears a legal name can be false. Who cares? what matters is WHAT IS BEING SAID what is promoted opposed or whatever.<br /><br />"You don't need to know my credentials as I have never attempted to use an argument from authority to shortcut a scientific argument."<br /><br />Ridiculous. Once you announced your PhD in physics you were doing exactly that.<br /><br />But that is less of interest to me than nailing down this because of your subtlety. I have dealt with such before in person and online with various people. I have stated specifics before, I won't waste blog space again.<br /><br />I know you EXIST whatever your name is, and how you think and act to some extent.Christine Erikson (aka Justina)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11594093718714798117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-15906688418141507472012-05-01T10:34:17.709-04:002012-05-01T10:34:17.709-04:00YOU did NOT say you had asked Cambridge and when a...YOU did NOT say you had asked Cambridge and when asked to do so you REFUSED. That is the issue. Seeing his published articles are NOT seeing his credentials, which are statement from Cambridge that yes he graduated and yes he holds a PhD from them.<br /><br />That is what I specified. Fine if you don't want to discuss, you have nothing to say to me of any use anyway. There have been people who pulled off considerable cons involving alleged credentials which, going unchecked with the appropriate office, went far in their professions and I think got published also. <br /><br />Probably he is legit, but refusal to send a simple phone or email makes no sense. In the time you have spent arguing about it, you could have done it and had an answer back. I did this once when someone claimed Oxford never heard of someone else, and the answer came back yes, he was a PhD from Oxford. No request as to why I was asking was made or should have been made. <br /><br />You DO NOT HAVE TO SAY THE WORDS that someone is above question, in order to say it with your behavior and attitude.Christine Erikson (aka Justina)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11594093718714798117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-59676892860887208742012-05-01T09:46:22.046-04:002012-05-01T09:46:22.046-04:00Christine,
No one said the Physicist was above q...Christine,<br /><br /> No one said the Physicist was above question, only that his credentials were what he claimed. If you can manage to challenge him or wish to have a debate with him on a subject have at it. This conversation started with him challenging a video you posted. You objected about his claimed credentials, we told you we could verify his claims, you continue to object. I don't need to call Cambridge to ask, when I can physically see them with a click of a search engine. When I can see his body of work...etc. <br /><br /> If this is the only point of conjecture, I have no other business in the conversation and will see my way out of it.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04920090468134075271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-55099844138176356072012-05-01T02:20:17.147-04:002012-05-01T02:20:17.147-04:00Christine,
Don't get obsessed about me; I'...Christine,<br /><br />Don't get obsessed about me; I'm not worth it. You don't need to know my credentials as I have never attempted to use an argument from authority to shortcut a scientific argument. Nevertheless Constance personally knows JD, who personally knows Susanna, who has seen the frontpage of one of my scientific publications with my name and affiliation at the time of publication just as I claimed it was. That should be enough. After all, I take your name on trust.<br /><br />PhysicistAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-87638649432242173792012-04-30T23:18:12.374-04:002012-04-30T23:18:12.374-04:00Constance, I accept your information that they are...Constance, I accept your information that they are distinct. However, I find the constant refusal, and reference even to privacy of all things, to check credentials to be very strange. <br /><br />Credentials may be valid, but the behavior is very strange, since I have repeatedly stated I don't want to know his name, only someone who <br />]\DOES know to check with Cambridgeon his degree. This preserves his <br />security. <br /><br />Valid or not, the behavior exhibited is what I would expect of a con man and his faithful followers. Or perhaps rather, a personality cult leader and his faithful followers. No transparency, ergo no accountability and even if there is nothing to be accountable for, it means this is not even on the horizon. This person is to be viewed as above question. Is this not strange?Christine Erikson (aka Justina)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11594093718714798117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-62564691253282435372012-04-30T17:24:42.543-04:002012-04-30T17:24:42.543-04:00The "spiritual DNA" teaching is, in esse...The "spiritual DNA" teaching is, in essence, the same as the Gnostic/Kabbalistic "divine spark" concept as all are predicated on panentheistic thought.Craighttp://notunlikelee.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-80724040304348418142012-04-30T15:52:29.862-04:002012-04-30T15:52:29.862-04:00Constance,
This is an update on the Occupy Movemen...Constance,<br />This is an update on the Occupy Movement in case you missed it:<br /><br />http://maydaynyc.org/may-day-2012<br /><br />May Day has some very occult origins and in the rest of the world it is usually a bigger event, sometimes with a lot of violence and mayhem ( excuse the pun) , than in the US which celebrates Labor Day in September. <br /><br />The Communists seem to be happy about this:<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/86yd8nb<br /><br />It looks like Dennis Cuddy's observations about a dialectical struggle between Communism and Capitalism lead to National Socialism, which is exactly what Nazism is. I urge you all to read Cuddy's articles on News with Views about the Nazis and the Power Elite. <br /><br /><br /><br />AnoymousAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-2338855069863111752012-04-30T14:30:05.789-04:002012-04-30T14:30:05.789-04:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-8G9PbMZaI&fea...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-8G9PbMZaI&feature=related<br /><br />interesting video on demonic element in Hollywood. I always thought that method acting was a bad idea. Every so often I have to rethink about things or people I find interesting or attractive, maybe this isn't good, even if it feels empowering or something.Christine Erikson (aka Justina)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11594093718714798117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-51292660791732419692012-04-30T12:49:40.798-04:002012-04-30T12:49:40.798-04:00invisible DNA eh? well I think I can pick that one...invisible DNA eh? well I think I can pick that one apart. First off, how come these invisible strands don't get seen by people who can see auras and chakras? here esotericism would contradict itself. <br /><br />Secondly, it is rather mechanistic and physical sounding for something so all fired "spiritual." If they can see them, how do we know these are not little microfilaria filament type entities attached that need to be exorcized instead of "activated"?<br /><br />Thirdly, extra DNA does turn up now and then, and it ALWAYS creates an abnormality. <br /><br />I noticed years ago a certain corellation wbetween what the eastern philosophy calls enlightenment and what westernpsychiatry would call schizophrenia and maybe other <br />things as well, and becoming a "god" would sound like grandiose paranoia wouldn't it? <br /><br />Or at least a manic phase on a bipolar swing. I also noticed in reading about the four categories of paranoia described in the Encyc. Brit. of the 1960s, back when I was a precocious teenager and isolated and voracious reader with nothing to do, something that I didn't really notice until I ran into and recognized paranoias and remembered:<br /><br />THEY ALL involve a radical self centered view that puts oneself at the center of the universe.<br /><br />Another corellation to New Age thought.<br /><br />So the whole thing, is either delusion, or an explanation to make pseudo scientific sense to the minds of the late 1800s and early 1900s, from which time frame date most of the "esoteric teachings" of something that will simply be an "activation" of insanity.<br /><br />Thirdly,Christine Erikson (aka Justina)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11594093718714798117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-88830879045065143142012-04-30T12:49:27.250-04:002012-04-30T12:49:27.250-04:00invisible DNA eh? well I think I can pick that one...invisible DNA eh? well I think I can pick that one apart. First off, how come these invisible strands don't get seen by people who can see auras and chakras? here esotericism would contradict itself. <br /><br />Secondly, it is rather mechanistic and physical sounding for something so all fired "spiritual." If they can see them, how do we know these are not little microfilaria filament type entities attached that need to be exorcized instead of "activated"?<br /><br />Thirdly, extra DNA does turn up now and then, and it ALWAYS creates an abnormality. <br /><br />I noticed years ago a certain corellation wbetween what the eastern philosophy calls enlightenment and what westernpsychiatry would call schizophrenia and maybe other <br />things as well, and becoming a "god" would sound like grandiose paranoia wouldn't it? <br /><br />Or at least a manic phase on a bipolar swing. I also noticed in reading about the four categories of paranoia described in the Encyc. Brit. of the 1960s, back when I was a precocious teenager and isolated and voracious reader with nothing to do, something that I didn't really notice until I ran into and recognized paranoias and remembered:<br /><br />THEY ALL involve a radical self centered view that puts oneself at the center of the universe.<br /><br />Another corellation to New Age thought.<br /><br />So the whole thing, is either delusion, or an explanation to make pseudo scientific sense to the minds of the late 1800s and early 1900s, from which time frame date most of the "esoteric teachings" of something that will simply be an "activation" of insanity.<br /><br />Thirdly,Christine Erikson (aka Justina)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11594093718714798117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-47380172532279644502012-04-30T10:09:53.650-04:002012-04-30T10:09:53.650-04:00Christina,
I can assure you that JD (whom I have ...Christina,<br /><br />I can assure you that JD (whom I have had the pleasure of meeting personally, as I have you), Susanna and other others you name are all very different people with their own very separate identities.<br /><br />ConstanceConstance Cumbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-53274540460696558012012-04-30T10:07:47.507-04:002012-04-30T10:07:47.507-04:00A major thought leader in the New Age / Earth Wors...A major thought leader in the New Age / Earth Worship Movements, Ernest Callenbach (age 83) died of cancer on April 16th. He wrote ECOTOPIA, a novel about 3 states having seceded from the USA. In his "Ecotopia" [utopia], marijuana was legalized, free sex festivals were held in which otherwise monogamous couples partook. I am writing an article about it for this blogspot and possibly NEWSWITHVIEWS. A story about his death is on page A16 of today's <i>NEW YORK TIMES</i>.<br /><br />CONSTANCEConstance Cumbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-38081881368988456172012-04-30T07:38:16.929-04:002012-04-30T07:38:16.929-04:00"Spiritual DNA" is a concept prevalent i..."Spiritual DNA" is a concept prevalent in New Age/occult. The teaching is such that we have dormant DNA awaiting to be activated, and, once activated, we are on our way to actualizing our divinity. From one such site:<br /><br />http://humanityhealing.net/2010/08/spiritual-dna/<br /><br /><i>"In our current DNA structure, we have two visible strands, which are called backbone DNA, but all the other 10 other strands are present…According to Esoteric teachings, <b>the first two strands are Physical DNA, the other ten strands are Spiritual DNA</b>. <br /><br />"…Activating your dormant DNA, which in time will also give you access to the secrets and mysteries of which you are and what your life-purpose is, will allow you to realize your full potential here on Earth."</i><br /><br />And one other which is more direct:<br /><br />http://www.atam.org/DNA.html<br /><br /><i>"…The 97% of your DNA that’s not activated is GOD waiting to be activated in man. You have the information and intelligence of the Adam the son of God encoded in your DNA. Access and activation to this information will cause you to live as Adam the God-man in the Garden of your Be-ing….<br /> <br />"One will only be able to fulfill the Divine purpose when he is walking in awareness of his own divinity. It is our belief system that hinders us from being the Gods we are…"</i><br /><br />One has to wonder why anyone in the 'church' would adopt terminology that is explicitly occult/New Age.Craighttp://notunlikelee.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-66530143854941792202012-04-30T04:01:43.998-04:002012-04-30T04:01:43.998-04:00Christine: I was definitely not asserting on this ...Christine: I was definitely not asserting on this occasion that you were talking scientific nonsense, but often it is not easy to work out your precise meaning from what you post, so I did my best to clarify the science involved.<br /><br />Susanna (7.12pm): Yes. It would involve changes to the nuclei of the atoms, which contain protons and neutrons. Chemistry deals only with the cloud of electrons that orbit the nuclei, and how these clouds interact when atoms approach each other. <br /><br />PhysicistAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-46387638516349782782012-04-29T23:24:27.785-04:002012-04-29T23:24:27.785-04:00there is something very fleshly, physical, mechani...there is something very fleshly, physical, mechanistic about some of the ideas in charismaticism. Spiritual DNA is a wierd concept. I don't read such stuff, so I don't know what they mean by it, but if you want to talk about organizational pedigrees and origins of some teachings that is another matter, and it doesn't look good for them.Christine Erikson (aka Justina)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11594093718714798117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-45466585227749700692012-04-29T22:25:45.257-04:002012-04-29T22:25:45.257-04:00Part IIIb of the current series “Bill Johnson: A N...Part IIIb of the current series “Bill Johnson: A New Age Christ?” is now posted:<br /><br />http://notunlikelee.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/bill-johnsons-christology-a-new-age-christ-part-iiib/<br /><br />In making the claim that “we have the privilege of the Word becoming flesh in us again” he effectively denies the uniqueness of the Jesus Christ as THE Word made flesh. On the surface this is manifested sons of God teaching, but it goes deeper than that. Analyzing Johnson’s words (on audio) illustrates that Jesus is the ‘Word of Faith’ (WoF) “rhema” ‘Word made flesh’, i.e., He is the “Word” in the sense of ongoing revelation. This is strikingly similar to the words of Levi Dowling in his book <i>The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ</i><br /><br />But, it gets worse. Johnson goes further. Using John 6:63 as a proof-text (“The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life”), he claims that when Jesus spoke, His Words literally <b>became</b> Spirit. By this he means ‘Holy Spirit’, but in reality it's the WoF tangible, transferable “anointing”. He goes even further claiming that all ministry can be summed up as “<i>imparting the Person of the Spirit of Christ into the atmosphere, into a situation</i>.”<br /><br />While this teaching is, of course, not Biblical, I do believe I’ve found the occult basis for this doctrine. It’s the impartation of the ‘etheric realm’, or panentheistic realm. Alice Bailey states that the characteristic of the etheric realm is omnipresence which, of course, makes sense from a monistic perspective:<br /> <br /><i>…Omnipresence has its basis in the substance of the universe, and in what the scientists call the ether; this word “ether” is a generic term covering the ocean of energies which are all inter-related and which constitute that one synthetic energy body of our planet.</i> [<i>Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle</i>; p 2]<br /><br />Bailey also states elsewhere:<br /><br /><i>Instruction is being given at this time to a special group of people who have come into incarnation at this critical period of world’s history. <b>They have come in, all at the same time, throughout the world, to do the work of linking up the two planes, the physical and the astral, via the etheric</b>.</i> [<i>Initiation, Human and Solar</i>; p 67]<br /><br />There’s much more in the article.<br /><br />I want to stress that while this article is about Bill Johnson, these teachings are rampant within hyper-charismaticism.<br /><br />The article also goes into the “spiritual DNA” teaching which is in both hyper-charismatic and “Emergent” circles.Craighttp://notunlikelee.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-66965438089686814802012-04-29T20:23:10.500-04:002012-04-29T20:23:10.500-04:00Constance should do a post on the reported "c...Constance should do a post on the reported "conversion" of Oprah...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-87923242654594725042012-04-29T19:12:04.915-04:002012-04-29T19:12:04.915-04:00Dear Physicist, 2:50 P.M.,
Just a question.
Re: ...Dear Physicist, 2:50 P.M.,<br /><br />Just a question.<br /><br />Re: <i>Transmutation of elements can be done only inside nuclear reactors, and the conditions required are so extreme that they occur in nature only inside stars.</i><br /><br /><br />Would such a transmutation under the required conditions somehow involve the addition or removal of subatomic particles? ( i.e. electrons, protons, neutrons )Susannanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-38721542316814733822012-04-29T17:38:25.776-04:002012-04-29T17:38:25.776-04:00Debt crisis lays waste to European
governments
...Debt crisis lays waste to European <br />governments<br /><br /><br />A likely change of power in France. No confidence votes in Romania and the Czech Republic. The Dutch government's resignation. Since the start of the debt crisis, 16 nations in the EU have seen a change of wwgovernment. <br /><br />* * *<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/7yeoj5x<br /><br />or<br /><br />http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,15915310,00.html<br /><br />* * *<br /><br />Fwiw.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-18370486027690520942012-04-29T17:36:21.838-04:002012-04-29T17:36:21.838-04:00"It's not particularly clear what scienti..."It's not particularly clear what scientific claims you are making - or are claiming on behalf of mediaeval alchemists - but experiments using apparatus millions of times more accurate than the mediaevals had consistently confirm that the number of atoms of each element at the start and end of a chemical reaction are the same."<br /><br />I think I made it clear, that the transmutations were not actual ones.<br /><br />That what they had was something that would pass most assay, but not being real gold would not pass a modern spectrographic assay.<br /><br />I don't see how you can honestly say I am making any physics claims at all, in saying compounds alloys could exist that could mimic gold. <br /><br />Or in mentioning the obviously no physics oddity whatever of electroplating gold onto tungsten or titanium bars.<br /><br />Please don't start another round of twisting my words then arguing beside the point. I won't answer you. It is a waste of time.Christine Erikson (aka Justina)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11594093718714798117noreply@blogger.com