tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post6704925067514944146..comments2024-03-19T07:56:45.785-04:00Comments on My perspective -- What Constance thinks: Errors in Sorry You Missed the Rapture Youtube and God TubeConstance Cumbeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07181096121385621574noreply@blogger.comBlogger107125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-45963437188057222742008-11-27T16:43:00.000-05:002008-11-27T16:43:00.000-05:00For your Thanksgiving Day dessert go to "Powered b...For your Thanksgiving Day dessert go to "Powered by Christ Ministries" and hit on "America's Pretrib Rapture Traffickers." If you want more, Google "Pretrib Rapture Diehards," "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)," and "Deceiving and Being Deceived" (all by the same "incorrect" - that is, not approved by Lindsey, LaHaye, and Ice - historian who also authored THE RAPTURE PLOT). BretAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-91204045820306046612008-11-05T00:55:00.000-05:002008-11-05T00:55:00.000-05:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Kjk0oX94g *----Cl...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Kjk0oX94g *----Click to view video.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Kjk0oX94g" REL="nofollow">This </A>is a fine video. Though, it has some <A HREF="http://cumbey.blogspot.com/2008/10/errors-in-sorry-you-missed-rapture.html" REL="nofollow">errors already identified</A>, and more errors that I will hereafter discuss.<BR/><BR/>It mentions very many important things of which many people are ignorant. <BR/><BR/>Yes, <A HREF="http://cumbey.blogspot.com/2007/12/solana-no-more-mr-nice-guy.html" REL="nofollow">Javier Solana</A> commands Europe, as each nation state is confederated under his position declared in <A HREF="http://www.assembly-weu.org/en/documents/sessions_ordinaires/txt/2000/jun00_txts_adopted.php#P51_3072" REL="nofollow">document 666 item 12</A>. <BR/>Yes, he has signed <A HREF="http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=MEMO/08/208&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en" REL="nofollow">a seven year peace accord with Israel</A> in 2007. <BR/>Yes, it is reviewed in the summer of 2010. And Yes things are <A HREF="http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Look_Up%2C_For_the_Beginning_of_the_End_Has_Come" REL="nofollow">going to get alot worse</A>, this year and the next until all things are accomplished. <BR/><BR/>NO, however, the rapture is not until sometime before 2012 (likely September of 2010 for reasons that I won't go into here.)<BR/><BR/>Obama is not only our next president, but our <A HREF="http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=God%E2%80%99s_Will" REL="nofollow">FINAL president</A>, who hands over the nation into a merger with Canada and Mexico for seven months before the <A HREF="http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Recompense" REL="nofollow">Anti-Christ puts the new merger under his foot</A>. Obama and his presidency will remain until just after the rapture.<BR/><BR/>You will know that the rapture is shortly at hand, when you see the <A HREF="http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Israel_is_Mine!_Watchmen%2C_Sound_the_Trumpet%2C_the_Alarm_of_War!...Says_the_Lord" REL="nofollow">miraculous rescue of Israel</A> when attacked by Russia and the Oriental enemies in league with Islamic powers.<BR/><BR/>We know that <A HREF="http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Trust_in_Me%2C_For_the_Time_is_at_Hand" REL="nofollow">Feast of Trumpets (9/13/07)</A> marked the beginning of the last ten days (years.) <BR/><BR/>As of this fall, only 2 years remain until the rapture, of which "<A HREF="http://bible.crosswalk.com/ParallelBible/bible.cgi?word=knows%20day%20hour§ion=0&language_one=en&version_one=nas&language_two=en&version_two=cjb&new=1&oq=knows%20day%20hour" REL="nofollow">nobody knows the day nor the hour</A>." <A HREF="http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=I_Shall_Tear_Down%2C_I_Shall_Uproot_and_Destroy...Supplant%2C_Rebuild_and_Restore%2C_Uplift_to_Make_Them_One" REL="nofollow">Not all believers will be raptured</A>. Many will be left for refinement <A HREF="http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Return_to_Me!_Stand_Up_or_Bow_Down..._Call_Out%2C_Cry_and_Wail!" REL="nofollow">"as one escaping through the flames."</A><BR/><BR/>THEREFORE, <A HREF="http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Return_Home...Your_Father_Calls" REL="nofollow">repent and return to the Lord</A> and be not left behind!GraceHeadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511471036658708352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-74254798943088057392008-10-30T21:40:00.000-04:002008-10-30T21:40:00.000-04:00Demonic shield #1 just came downDemonic shield #1 just came downAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-29212930483357307642008-10-30T20:14:00.000-04:002008-10-30T20:14:00.000-04:00Let's don't mix our religous views and desires wit...Let's don't mix our religous views and desires with our government.<BR/><BR/>Let's wait for Christ to set up His perfect kingdom, and He'll rule perfectly...<BR/><BR/>If your ememy is thirsty give him drink, if he's hungry give him food....<BR/><BR/>give the homosexual healthcare benefits, they need it just like everyone else...<BR/><BR/>if the woman decides she wants an ambortion, it's between her and God...<BR/><BR/>I don't want our goverenment to be a mixure of religion and politics, they need to be separate...<BR/><BR/>Changing subjects...the Bible does teach truth regarding the rapture, it's very clear about what will happen, we need to accept the truth of it's teaching and move forward....<BR/><BR/>It damages the reputation of the Bible when the church can't believe in one truth regarding the rapture, it makes the Bible appear unclear and untrust worthly to the outsider, so it would be nice if we could treat the Bible as if it teaches one truth...<BR/><BR/>Let's love the gay person as if they are created in the image of God...let's do good to our enemies, let's share our belongings and resources with those in need....<BR/><BR/>LOVE conquers all things and it never fails, we are called to love...love will open the door so our gospel of the cross will reach the lost....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-72322810070634394762008-10-30T14:00:00.000-04:002008-10-30T14:00:00.000-04:00Paula, It is the height of arrogance to assume tha...Paula, <BR/><BR/>It is the height of arrogance to assume that your interpretations of scripture, let alone the sources you sight, are without error. Do you really think the mid and/or post trib viewpoints lack valid scriptural basis? <BR/><BR/>But the point really is that you called me a liar without any evidence to back up the accusation. A “lie” is an intentional mis-representation of facts for the purpose of deception and/or personal gain. To accuse someone of being a “liar” without presenting any evidence to back up the accusation is not just libel, it is a sin.<BR/><BR/>Fact:<BR/><BR/>Darby, did more to promote and popularize the pre-trib rapture viewpoint than perhaps any other figure up to Hal Lindsey and Rev. Lahaye. Darby was to the “Pre-trib Rapture” doctrine, what Don King was to boxing. His writings and sermons on the subject are extensive. By chance, have you read any of them? I have.<BR/><BR/>http://www.stempublishing.com/authors/darby/<BR/><BR/>Excellent preacher and brilliant theologian, Darby was, but not perfect in his understanding. You, me, and many others have already noted here that time will tell if the interpretations of scripture he promoted are correct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-3865502229401310962008-10-30T13:32:00.000-04:002008-10-30T13:32:00.000-04:00To Paula @ 11:16 AMLOL . . .Whether I call myself ...To Paula @ 11:16 AM<BR/><BR/>LOL . . .<BR/><BR/>Whether I call myself "Anonymous" or "Paula" or "Tweedle Dee" . . . I have a right to my opinion without having to endure such an emotional over reaction from YOU accusing me of potential violence.<BR/><BR/>Why don't you just try sticking to the issues? It might actually give you more credibility!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-33399686995005922922008-10-30T12:07:00.000-04:002008-10-30T12:07:00.000-04:00To Anonymous,who made this remark..."Er, uh, Joyce...To Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>who made this remark...<BR/><BR/>"Er, uh, Joyce, you'd BETTER KEEP EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE ORDINANCES -- OTHERWISE, THERE GOES YOUR SALVATION AS YOU ARE APPARENTLY RELYING ON THE LAW FOR YOUR PERSONAL JUSTIFICATION TO BE SAVED -- THE APOSTLES ADMITTED THEY COULD NOT DO THAT!"<BR/><BR/>Go back and reread my post instead of misquoting me...What you wrote is exactly the opposite of what I said...<BR/><BR/>JoyceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-87049280579120869982008-10-30T11:16:00.000-04:002008-10-30T11:16:00.000-04:00Whatever you say, anon 10:47 AM. But you might wan...Whatever you say, anon 10:47 AM. But you might want to get another gallon of gasoline for that straw man if you want to keep it burning. And take the mask of anonymity off if you don't want to be mistaken for that group of people who is notorious for burning things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-50950905538001007722008-10-30T10:47:00.000-04:002008-10-30T10:47:00.000-04:00To Paula @ 10:30 AM:When you say (@ 8:50 AM):"trut...To Paula @ 10:30 AM:<BR/><BR/>When you say (@ 8:50 AM):<BR/>"truth is not a popularity contest"<BR/>you ARE in fact "debating which rapture view is correct."<BR/><BR/>And I repeat: ONLY TIME WILL TELL.<BR/><BR/>(double sigh)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-18577438220488149442008-10-30T10:30:00.000-04:002008-10-30T10:30:00.000-04:00To Paula @ 8:50 AM:Only TIME (and either the occur...<I>To Paula @ 8:50 AM:<BR/><BR/>Only TIME (and either the occurance or non-occurance of this event) will settle this debate once and for all!!!</I><BR/><BR/>This is NOT about which view is correct. I've tried to say this several times. It's about a FALSE CHARGE against the ROOTS of the pre-trib view. That requires no "time to tell".<BR/><BR/>One more time: I'M NOT DEBATING WHICH RAPTURE VIEW IS CORRECT. I'm only objecting to a false rumor about the ROOT of the pre-trib view.<BR/><BR/>::sigh::Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-23678915426445633002008-10-30T10:06:00.001-04:002008-10-30T10:06:00.001-04:00Yes, it's all about the issues of;AbortionHomosexu...Yes, it's all about the issues of;<BR/><BR/>Abortion<BR/><BR/>Homosexual rights<BR/><BR/>Israel<BR/><BR/>and the Supreme Court, <BR/><BR/>those are my utmost concerns, as well as any believer.<BR/><BR/>Getting our hearts prepared for the King of Kings<BR/><BR/>and praying against His enemy successfully is primary.<BR/><BR/>Watching and praying,<BR/><BR/>Shalom,<BR/>BarbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-32635927585009372142008-10-30T10:06:00.000-04:002008-10-30T10:06:00.000-04:00Yes, it's all about the issues of;AbortionHomosexu...Yes, it's all about the issues of;<BR/><BR/>Abortion<BR/><BR/>Homosexual rights<BR/><BR/>Israel<BR/><BR/>and the Supreme Court, <BR/><BR/>those are my utmost concerns, as well as any believer.<BR/><BR/>Getting our hearts prepared for the King of Kings<BR/><BR/>and praying against His enemy successfully is primary.<BR/><BR/>Watching and praying,<BR/><BR/>Shalom,<BR/>BarbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-47975422408257185312008-10-30T09:46:00.000-04:002008-10-30T09:46:00.000-04:00To Paula @ 8:50 AM:Only TIME (and either the occur...To Paula @ 8:50 AM:<BR/><BR/>Only TIME (and either the occurance or non-occurance of this event) will settle this debate once and for all!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-26071424800932466412008-10-30T09:40:00.000-04:002008-10-30T09:40:00.000-04:00Er, uh, Joyce, you'd BETTER KEEP EACH AND EVERY ON...Er, uh, Joyce, you'd BETTER KEEP EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE ORDINANCES -- OTHERWISE, THERE GOES YOUR SALVATION AS YOU ARE APPARENTLY RELYING ON THE LAW FOR YOUR PERSONAL JUSTIFICATION TO BE SAVED -- THE APOSTLES ADMITTED THEY COULD NOT DO THAT!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-91712402921385624142008-10-30T08:50:00.000-04:002008-10-30T08:50:00.000-04:00oldman said "Pre-tribulation rapture adherents hav...oldman said "Pre-tribulation rapture adherents have dug really deep trying to find the doctrine taught anywhere in the church before Darby. For some, the effort to prove that the idea did NOT originate with Darby has become an obsession.<BR/><BR/>But they miss the point. "<BR/><BR/>---------<BR/><BR/>You miss my point as well. We're not looking for our view in church history at all; the only reason we bring it up is because of this oft-repeated falsehood that we don't get it from scripture (and that we're "escapist" or fearful). Are we just supposed to sit quietly while we're lied about? I'd say the obsession is on the part of anti-pretrib to discredit us.<BR/><BR/>For the last time: I believe in a pre-trib rapture because, and only because, of what the Bible says. The whole Bible, not just Revelation and Daniel. If anyone honestly wants to understand the pre-trib view instead of merely repeating talking points from anti-pretrib sites, I provided links to two sites that are loaded with sound scriptural backing. If you read only one of the links, I'd say Jack Kelley's is the best. <BR/><BR/>In my experience, it would be truly a miracle to see an anti-pretribber actually study our view before deciding to continue bashing it. All we ask is that they drop this ridiculous charge and deal only with scripture. Truth is not a popularity contest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-67137619840598562772008-10-30T07:06:00.000-04:002008-10-30T07:06:00.000-04:00Anon 9:33 & 11:11An effigy of Democratic presi...Anon 9:33 & 11:11<BR/>An effigy of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama from a tree on campus; does that disturb you? How about the same kind of thing in L.A. but instead it is Sarah Palin? If in your heart you care for Obama but not Palin you have a problem. If, and that’s a big IF, you want to really ponder what and who Obama represents follow the URL below. Please keep in mind that few here are Bush supporters; I have written often as to how this President has failed, and in fact how anti-Christian Bush is.<BR/>http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=79411Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-44005755244984758612008-10-30T06:15:00.000-04:002008-10-30T06:15:00.000-04:00Old Man,Exactly.Old Man,<BR/>Exactly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-44794656705226036972008-10-30T01:59:00.000-04:002008-10-30T01:59:00.000-04:00Paula, et. alPre-tribulation rapture adherents hav...Paula, et. al<BR/><BR/>Pre-tribulation rapture adherents have dug really deep trying to find the doctrine taught anywhere in the church before Darby. For some, the effort to prove that the idea did NOT originate with Darby has become an obsession. <BR/><BR/>But they miss the point. <BR/><BR/>Of course a pre-trib rapture interpretation of scripture did not start with Darby, I said as much in my post. Prior to Darby, there appears to be less than a handful of references to the doctrine in all of recorded history. It doesn't make the doctrine wrong, just quietly absent from the vast majority of church teachings. <BR/><BR/>I wrote that Darby "watered" the doctrine, and Irving "plowed". Those are historical facts. Forgive me for saying Ms. McDonald's visions were "seed". Indeed, that was careless of me. Her dreams were not the "original seed". They were merely "more seed".<BR/><BR/>As far as the scriptures go, the more I study God's Word the more I am convinced a pre-trib rapture is on thin Ice. (Excuse the pun!) But then again, I'm willing to admit that my finite mind cannot fathom, let alone pin-point, God's timing.<BR/><BR/>That said, I can readily admit that my nearly-or-at-the-end- of -the-tribulation-pre-wrath-rapture view could be wrong. And I certainly won't mind one bit if a pre-tribber says "I told you so..." on the way up. <BR/><BR/>But if the quick escape pre-tribulation "rapture" view turns out to be wrong....well then, consider the consequences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-86338312762349925152008-10-30T01:44:00.000-04:002008-10-30T01:44:00.000-04:00Anonymous 11:11God may not be a Republican, but He...Anonymous 11:11<BR/><BR/>God may not be a Republican, but He is on the side of those who speak out for all of the innocent babies of this world (who are unable to speak up for and defend themselves) -- those who are Pro-Life and against abortion (and especially late term abortions).<BR/><BR/>Obama's voting record on this issue is atrocious -- and is even to the left of most feminists!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-40683075630343734152008-10-30T01:16:00.000-04:002008-10-30T01:16:00.000-04:00Oldmanoftheski:Grasshopper posted some Grant Park ...Oldmanoftheski:<BR/><BR/>Grasshopper posted some Grant Park photos on her blog. I know you drew these eye of Horus symbols from the sky to our attention recently.<BR/><BR/>http://www.the-obama-nation.blogpot.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-62358122152496351532008-10-30T01:12:00.000-04:002008-10-30T01:12:00.000-04:00Hey, Anonymous (11:11 PM) --You think the last 8 y...Hey, Anonymous (11:11 PM) --<BR/><BR/>You think the last 8 years have been "evil"?<BR/><BR/>You haven't seen EVIL . . . until Barack Obama takes America on a jet plane into the New World Order!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-84076443110860330312008-10-30T01:07:00.000-04:002008-10-30T01:07:00.000-04:00To Anonymous @ 11:11 PM:WOW, do you ever need a re...To Anonymous @ 11:11 PM:<BR/><BR/>WOW, do you ever need a reality check.<BR/><BR/>Nobody is saying that God is a Republican . . . but one thing is for sure, He is NOT a Socialist!!!<BR/><BR/>And, I doubt thst God would be friends with Javier Solana either who MAY just be the Anti-Christ!!!<BR/><BR/>And, I would say to you . . .that it's a SIN to vote for a friend of the Anti-Christ.<BR/><BR/>So why don't you just calm down and do some actual research on your candidate BEFORE November 4th instead of going off the deep end attacking McCain voters?<BR/><BR/>And, you're wrong . . . I do care deeply about all of those brainwashed people who are drinking the Kool-Aide. I pray to God that you all wake up before next Tuesday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-74833725932116501792008-10-29T23:40:00.000-04:002008-10-29T23:40:00.000-04:00Article: "EU Expects Anti-Piracy Mission to Somali...Article: <BR/><BR/>"EU Expects Anti-Piracy Mission to Somalia to Last a Year"<BR/><BR/>http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3749644,00.html<BR/><BR/>(excerpt)<BR/><BR/>"A total of <B>10 EU nations</B> have agreed to contribute to the mission. Several EU ships are already taking part in the NATO operation. Two <B>French</B> frigates, a <B>Dutch</B> warship and a <B>Spanish</B> aircraft have also been involved in anti-piracy duties. The EU said the force could include some of the European ships which are already taking part in the NATO anti-piracy operation."<BR/><BR/>Note: The three above-mentioned nations all belong to the Western European Union (WEU) as 3 of the 10 full members (the Netherlands/Dutch are one and the same):<BR/><BR/>http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/page/the-10-nations/<BR/><BR/>Dr. Solana is Sec.-Gen. of the WEU (not to mention his many other hats in the EU defence establishment). Highly recommend reading the entire article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-37680568631612341762008-10-29T23:11:00.000-04:002008-10-29T23:11:00.000-04:00to 9:57...you're a perfect example of what I'm tal...to 9:57...you're a perfect example of what I'm talking about, you act as if God is a republican...please...<BR/><BR/>Don"t you know it's a sin to show favoritism to the rich?<BR/><BR/>Don't you know God has a heart for the poor?<BR/><BR/>Why do you judge the Christianity of O.B.?<BR/><BR/>Probably because you look down on people that aren't like you...<BR/><BR/>The republicans are driving people away from Christianity becasue of their hate and hard heartedness...<BR/><BR/>I am so sick of Christians using politics in the Church, it only brings division and you should be ashamed of your comments made at 9:57...<BR/><BR/>But I'm sure, you won't be repentant or convicted, but you'll probably judge me and all demos, as if you really cared....<BR/><BR/>The last 8 years have been evil and wicked but you fail to see that...and you're quick to judge B.O. before he's even been elected, and I'm sure, if he wins, you'll be against him, hoping that he fails.<BR/><BR/>That's american christianity at work! It's sick and it's sad.<BR/><BR/>God help us all...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11772087.post-66836941355641292302008-10-29T22:42:00.000-04:002008-10-29T22:42:00.000-04:00It looks as though Barbara Marx Hubbard made a pre...It looks as though Barbara Marx Hubbard made a presentation at the "Big Tent" event at the DNC. She presented the incorporation of the "Citizens Solutions Council" into the office of the vice presidency. Ifthe council's recommendations are anything like Hubbard's "final solution" God help us all.<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CAR4eirTaYRich Peterson - Medfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12091118320364576176noreply@blogger.com